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Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here, right now.

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Speaker 1: This is Eyes up Here, and you're joining us here

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Speaker 1: for a brand new episode of iz up Here, exclusively

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Speaker 1: on our Patreon channel and of course simulcast on the

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Speaker 1: Creative Control Network. If you didn't know by now, my

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Speaker 1: name is Chad because I'm because I'm freezing in my

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Speaker 1: basement this morning, and I have short sleeves on, and

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Speaker 1: you say, I'll go get a sweatshirt, but I don't

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Speaker 1: want to put a sweatshirt on because then I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get too hot while we're recording. But i'm cold this morning.

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Speaker 1: But what I thought you were wrapping? No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not No, I'm not and I don't have a stutter.

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Speaker 1: I'm all good. But of course I'm joined here by

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Speaker 1: the wonderful, the amazing, the stupendous, the great ECW Diva herself, Francy. Hi,

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Speaker 1: you're cold today. I will agree. My room is just

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Speaker 1: the right temperature, and I feel okay. Matching though, look

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Speaker 1: where we got your matching. I didn't like coordinate with

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Speaker 1: you or any That's what we do on Eyes up Here.

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Speaker 1: We met, we do yo. I just need you, I

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Speaker 1: need a hat and I need some sunglasses and I'll

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Speaker 1: be good to go. But I sent out a picture

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Speaker 1: to a very close friend of ours as a as

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Speaker 1: a goof to show that I actually did have hair

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Speaker 1: under this or I do have hair under this hat.

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Speaker 1: Hard believer, believe me, he's never seen it. That's funny. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've been talking to our close friend every day, every day.

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Speaker 1: Very nice. Yes, very nice, very nice. And what's what's new.

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Speaker 1: We've we haven't really talked this week. It's been busy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? So? Uh, I'm excited because I finally

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Speaker 1: made my dental appointment for my graces. Yay, Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about that. So I go. I believe it's the

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Speaker 1: eighth June something, it's next month. And then weeks after

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Speaker 1: that appointment they put them on. But I have to

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Speaker 1: go get the spacers. Yeah, like you you go, you pay,

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Speaker 1: they do, They look at your mouth, they see what

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Speaker 1: you need, They put the spacers in, and then you

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Speaker 1: go back two weeks later and they put on I'm

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Speaker 1: So we're doing like the visile line or they couldn't

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Speaker 1: I'm getting actual braces, and I'm getting I believe they're white,

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Speaker 1: in my mouth. There's a list of foods that I

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Speaker 1: can eat, so I'm like, oh, maybe I'll lose a

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Speaker 1: have these braces on. But my son, excuse me, I'm

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Speaker 1: doing a podcast. He's serenading the world. Sorry about that,

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Speaker 1: you're not you're not, don't stifle with creativity. He was

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Speaker 1: holding it like a boombox his song. I was like, oh, any, Brad,

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Speaker 1: of thought. But yeah, the braces. So I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: about it. I've always wanted them, obviously, never had them

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Speaker 1: I'm very exciting. I had braces when I was in

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Speaker 1: eighth grade. I landed for a little under a year.

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Speaker 1: Oh so like eighth into ninth grade, bottom teeth. I

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Speaker 1: top I had the movie star level teeth until about

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Speaker 1: two months after I got my braces off. We were

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Speaker 1: So when I was I don't know, nine, ten years old,

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Speaker 1: so excited. Fingers, Are you going to be twitching live

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Speaker 1: Like I read there's gonna be some pain, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: from a eighth grader's perspective, I was definitely not liking it.

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Speaker 1: recording schedule to accommodate your your braces. No, because I'm

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Speaker 1: getting them on a Monday. Ah, gotcha. We get the

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Speaker 1: sparkly debut of them. Yes you do. I'll be good

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Speaker 1: I've been looking at, you know, I said a couple

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Speaker 1: And I've really been looking at like different things to

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Speaker 1: odd ball people that do interesting things. But it's kind

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Speaker 1: but northodontis. I don't know if that one would pass

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure either. But well, we'll see. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're always looking for guests on this show, right. Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I think if he was actually working on my teeth

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Speaker 1: your ear. He goes, she's hardcore. She's hard They don't

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Speaker 1: don't know me. Like, it's fine. I can't think that though.

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Speaker 1: I think that just that tickles me just to think

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Speaker 1: Well that's what I did in Disney get Away. Our

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Speaker 1: on for years and years, even before the podcast started.

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Speaker 1: This is Jazz bitch, bitch, there a little bit for me.

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Speaker 1: I got move your pretty face over. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: She's perfect. How are you, sweetheart? Fantastic baby? You're busy girl,

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the key? Look? That's what That's what we

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Speaker 1: Impact thing because we spoke a little bit before you started,

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Speaker 1: But I want to I want to start off hot

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Speaker 1: she was just on Impact Television for a while before

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Speaker 1: she retired. Before she terry funked. Let's you ain't done yet, girl. No, girl,

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Speaker 1: that's what we all say. We're never completely dyed. No.

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Speaker 1: But Jordan reached out along with Dreamer and ask me

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Speaker 1: how I felt about coming to Impact. I told dream

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Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I'm fat, out of shape, like never.

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Speaker 1: He was like, it is salad. You'll be okay, go

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Speaker 1: that's what it takes. Basically, That's that's what it was,

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Speaker 1: that was pretty dope. I enjoyed my time there. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not gonna lie. I don't watch impact,

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Speaker 1: but anytime your stuff came up on the internet, I

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Speaker 1: watched it because because you're my girl and I and

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Speaker 1: I was thrilled. I was thrilled to see you on

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Speaker 1: there because I mean you, to me, I feel like

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Speaker 1: you've always been underrated, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: you're so good, but I don't think that you've ever

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Speaker 1: and it just gives you that little extra nudge because

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Speaker 1: you're sleeping with five guys at once, and then it

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00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: was like, okay, maybe you deserve that. But if you're

419
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: dating someone didn't work out a couple of years later,

420
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: you date what who cares? Yeah exactly. It doesn't give

421
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: you the right to go do a shoot and say

422
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: that one was so and so's rat. No, she was

423
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: his girlfriend for a couple of years. And it just

424
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: pisses me off the way these guys just have open

425
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: forum and they could say whatever they want they want,

426
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: and the girls just look like pieces of ship. I

427
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: just I hate it. Yeah, we're you know, when we've

428
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: someone spoke up about, you know, the women not having

429
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: their own locker rooms when you go to venues, you know, yeah,

430
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: you know how many schlanks have you walked through? Oh?

431
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Hell you do. It's there marble. But you know, does

432
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: the disrespect that they they've shown us, you know, they

433
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: don't care for sitting there they're gonna get undressed and

434
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: do what they do. But if we would do that,

435
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're rats, We're sluts, sure, bitches whatever,

436
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like we deserve to have at

437
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: least a curtain to go behind to get dressed, you know.

438
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: But see I make sure we have our own locker room.

439
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: That's a musk. Well that's good. I mean when we

440
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: would go to a building and there'd be a women's bathroom,

441
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: we would like do a dance, yeah, because we'd have to,

442
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: like sometimes pe and and rtal. I mean, it was

443
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: ridiculous we worked under really, and I'm talking about ECW.

444
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: I know WW was a different entity, but it's it's

445
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: it seems to me like the tides turning. And I

446
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because of like the Me Too

447
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: movement or if the guys are so scared to talk,

448
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: but it just seems like there's more respect put on

449
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: the women today than there was twenty years ago, exactly,

450
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: and deserve it. And like another thing, there's no more

451
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: the boys club, you know, the women now we're just

452
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest draw than the man, right, Yeah,

453
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: we're no longer the Circus Act we're no longer you know,

454
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: where you put us out in the ring and hopefully

455
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: everybody goes get popcorn or to the restroom. You're like,

456
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: we're drawing now, sure, drawn, but now it's being noticed.

457
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: We're finally being acknowledged that we are a big draw.

458
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: But don't you think too it has something to do

459
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: with the writers, because you know, if they're in there

460
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: writing these stupid ass storylines that the girls have to follow,

461
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: not the talent's fault. It goes back to the office,

462
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: it does. Yeah, you know, a bigger platform for sure.

463
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: It's the writers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and whoever has the

464
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: last say. So it's amazing. They say the women have

465
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: come so far, But I think you got to give

466
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: it to the writers too, because they're starting to realize, Yeah,

467
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: these girls can do more than just stupid pillow fights.

468
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, when I was in WWE, they

469
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: called us in the meeting and that you know, they

470
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: always told us our raiders are doing great, but we're

471
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: wrestling too much. Like man, they want tops to come off,

472
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: they want the bras to be seen, and we looked

473
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: at them like, are you kidding me? Like we're out

474
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: there killing it, you know, and you want us to

475
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: go ten steps backwards to show a freaking bra. It's like,

476
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: come on, yeah, the gear kind of looks like brown

477
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: panty anyway. Anyway, yeah, yeah, So you gimmick the shirt

478
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: so when you grab it, it just so happens to

479
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: just rip, and now she's all exposed, and I guess

480
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: they get their little pop and you know them. Do

481
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: you remember the spot that you and I had to

482
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: do with the pay per view? I remember a lot

483
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: of spots. Okay, so when George was with us, oh

484
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: yeah in uh California and you had to rip my

485
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: top off. Yeah. I looked at Paul and I was like, I.

486
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: First I looked at Jazz and she's just like yeah.

487
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: Then I look at Paul and he's like and I'm

488
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: just like, and I go, so, I'm gonna put big

489
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: exes over my boobs so you can't see anything. And

490
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: Paul goes, well, uh, don't make them too big, and

491
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: don't and don't cover, don't put your hands over your

492
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: breast and I go why and he goes, no, just

493
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: let you know, let him flow, but you know, with

494
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: my hands over your pants down and walk around in

495
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: some briefs. Paul my hands. I made like I waited

496
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: three seconds and then I just was But I wanted

497
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: everybody to see these shoes. I put these huge exes

498
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: like they were huge, but I was like, now, what

499
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: did that do? I would have rather you bumped me

500
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: then took off my time, Yeah, and it would have

501
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: got a reaction anyway. I mean people, I tell all

502
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: my women's students, I'm like, we're you're not really here

503
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: to sell sex. If you hide and your cute, even

504
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: if you're ugly duckling, somebody out there is gonna say

505
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: you're hot regardless. You know we're half dressed anyway. I'm like,

506
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: you're getting more attention by being physical in the ring

507
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: than actually trying to go out there. And you know,

508
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: we're trying to tell a story. You got your heal,

509
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: you got your face right, and these girls got to

510
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: go out there. They want heat, but they go out

511
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: there shaking their ass. It's like, who's gonna do that?

512
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: You got to turn them? Yeah, help me get over.

513
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: Why don't you you have to turn them? That was that?

514
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you can't do that going out there

515
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: through the curve and wiggling and shaking ass and twirking

516
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: and oh, no, one's gonna No, you're not. You're not

517
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: gonna get an ounce of heat. Wow, we just watched

518
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: that a few weeks ago. We just watched that whole

519
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: thing play out with With what was going on on

520
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: the outside, it's almost like, you know, your your top

521
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: got ripped off, but it was. There was so much

522
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: other stuff going on because of what was going on

523
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: on the floor. I was actually pissed that night because

524
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: I flew my husband in because I was finally in

525
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: a freaking main event. And while we're out there in

526
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: the ring doing this and Franny calls as a whole

527
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: fucking I did not. How dare you? I'm kidding. But anyway,

528
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: looking around, I'm like, after the match, I'm like, babe,

529
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: you see my match? No, he's outside spearing people in everybody.

530
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, do you do you remember going over

531
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: the match that night and Dreamer saying to me, uh,

532
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: climb the ladder behind me and hook me. And I go,

533
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna fall on top of me. He goes, no,

534
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: I won't. I'll bump to the left and I go,

535
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: you're too heavy. You do you remember this? I said,

536
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna fall on top of me and he goes,

537
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: I won't what did he do? He fell on top.

538
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: I remember afterwards like my rip, My ribs were like

539
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: almost broken. I couldn't breathe, and he was mad at

540
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: me for six months and then he goes, I just

541
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: watched that it was my fault. Six months later he

542
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: apologizes and you're like, hell, I don't know three hundred

543
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: pounds falling on me. Yeah, man, awful. So between that

544
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: and then the fight and then because when I fell,

545
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: you guys, that was a cue for you guys to

546
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: like get the and you're both looking at me like

547
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: can you breathe? And I was just like, it's horrible.

548
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: The whole match was just this is what it feels like,

549
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: the main event great, and it was not my fault,

550
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: by the way, Well it wasn't. You know. If I

551
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: didn't go over to that girl, they still want to

552
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: have taken their shirts off and did their deal, and

553
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Atlas still would have ran over and it would have

554
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: been a madhouse. So it was like we're ready for

555
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: that night anyway, you know. Oh yeah, back watching the monitor,

556
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: like okay, there he is, there's that guy. There's that guy.

557
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: We knew it and said we're gonna We're gonna empty

558
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: the freaking locker room. And that's what happened. But blame

559
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: it on me. Yeah, it's on Franny. And at one

560
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: point thirty in the morning, I'm sleeping and the phone

561
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: rings and it was our lawyer, the lawyer, and he goes, yeah,

562
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: get ready to be sued. I go, okay, good night.

563
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I was what. I didn't do any selling

564
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: my ribs right now, Oh my god, I didn't have

565
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: to sell. It was real. Oh good times. Getting back.

566
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit, all right. We might

567
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: have talked about this before, but never here. How did

568
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: you and Rodney get into E c W because you

569
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: were trained by jyd right jyd In and then rod

570
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: came into play and we started training underneath the Rock, Yes,

571
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Yeah, like years. I love that man, yes, okay, yeah,

572
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: And he told us that y'all were gonna be in

573
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: Louisiana for a loop and we need to hit the

574
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: road and do a tryout. And one year was that,

575
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, ninety early ninety eight, ninety eight or

576
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: mid mid late late ninety eight. Okay, I remember when

577
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I one of my debut it was cold as fuck.

578
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: In Philly, like whoeze ain't cold. Yeah, it was like

579
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: towards late ninety eight. Okay, yeah, don't that seem so

580
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: long ago? It was honey, wow wow. So yeah, that's

581
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: how it happened. And I that weekend, the Friday, the Saturday,

582
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: I didn't get in the ring because I was just like,

583
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: I just felt like I didn't fit. I didn't know.

584
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: I saw you and don Marie and y'all up there

585
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: looking at all hot and sexy. I'm like, they don't

586
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: want anybody like me, and it was don Marie told

587
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: me to get my button a ring and show them

588
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: what I could do. Yep. Well, I finally got dressed,

589
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: found some hallway or something, because you know, I wasn't

590
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: allowed to go in the locker room. I found a hallway,

591
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: an empty hallway, and one got dressed and got in

592
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: the ring with Jason and RVD goes up to Rodney

593
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: and tiled Rodney, yell, is that your lady? And he

594
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: was like yeah. He was like, bro, I wouldn't let

595
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: her get in there. It was like, she'll be all right.

596
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: And I remember everyone gathered around the freaking ring and

597
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: nerves his hail and oh my god, completed the match

598
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: and ran out, went to the nearest locker room, which

599
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: it was Saboo, Tommy Rogers, One Man Gang. They were

600
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: all sitting there and I just ran past them into

601
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: the restroom and peoped my guts out there. You go there,

602
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: you nerves out, nerves, yes, but you know something, just

603
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: you worked with the best person because Jason. Yeah, Jason

604
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: brought out the best in every female. That's the one

605
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: thing that I loved about Jason. He put the girls

606
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: over every single time and let us shine. Like he

607
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: had no ego whatsoever. He's like did Franny and I

608
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: and I said it all the time, like if it

609
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: wasn't for the guys in E c W, there would

610
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: be no jazz. Yeah, because you beat you beat up

611
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: like everyone he did. Yeah, it's you know from from

612
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Simon Diamond and Steve Corino. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah,

613
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: we just watched that. We just watched you in Corino

614
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. Yeah, it was you and I

615
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: we tagged up against Corrino and Jack Victor. Yes, Jack

616
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: Victory even put me over, you know what I mean.

617
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, but Franny, we we just we was

618
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: just so happy and well, you know, for more reasons

619
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: than you know, than one. And its not all about

620
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: the money, right But yeah, but you know it was

621
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: so happy. There was no egos. Everybody there had a

622
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: chance to work. Yeah, everybody knew their role. You know,

623
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: we knew no vent Chanda and we're going to open

624
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: the show, you know, and the rest of us was

625
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: just gonna fall in line and get the opportunity. So

626
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: tell me a difference in your mind. You've worked ECW,

627
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: you work WWE. What's the difference like between the locker rooms.

628
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: I always ask you about people because I know what

629
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: my difference was. My difference might be different than your difference. Yeah,

630
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: if you don't want to say things, I mean, I'm

631
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: not pressuring you. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the

632
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: difference as of now, for sure, there's so many girls there.

633
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: You know, when we were there, Franny, it was maybe

634
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: ten if that. Yeah, could you imagine how we would

635
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: feel being in the position of these girls are in

636
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 1: now there's like one hundred. Everybody's fighting for a spot. Yeah,

637
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: everybody's fighting for a spot. We never had to do

638
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: that in ec We never had to fight for a spot.

639
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: We knew if we were flown in or showed up

640
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: at the venue. We were gonna have an opportunity to work, right,

641
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what I feel. The difference is

642
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: like it's just there's only so much room for TV

643
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: and not everyone's gonna get that opportunity in in W

644
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: W E. And it's just did you feel the family? Yeah?

645
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: Did it feel no family? No? It was so much backstabbing,

646
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: you know someone i'mna just use the term politics. Yeah,

647
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: you know. And and and I always thought my talent

648
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: would speak for itself. There's some things I just can't

649
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: compete with. I can't compete with someone over there, brown

650
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: nosing and sucking ass and all that. I can't compete

651
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: with that girl the choir, Yeah, I can't. Like, all

652
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: I got is what I got. You got talent, you

653
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: got TNA, you got talent and ability. Here's a story, Jazz,

654
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember it. When we went back to

655
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: the Fake e C Dug. You were called in a

656
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: little later than the rest of us. You came in

657
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: and I don't remember where we were. I don't know

658
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: what talent it was, but you had to rent a car.

659
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: You drove alone, Yes, she drove alone. And I remember

660
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: talking to you and I said, I don't want you

661
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: getting a hotel or driving, because we we had a

662
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: loop and we were working somewhere the next day and

663
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: we had to go by where my parents lived, and

664
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: I said, why don't we Why don't I drive back

665
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: with you? I'll ask, I'll see if it's okay, because

666
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want her driving alone. She's my friend, right,

667
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: So Dreamer says, yeah, go with her. That's that's a

668
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: great idea. So we go. We get lost, I mean

669
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: the whole yard, all nine yards, and get back to

670
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: the house. We chill, then we went somewhere else. We

671
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: did a show that day, and then you flew out

672
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: and dropped me off or whatever. I'm just trying to

673
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: be a good friend. Do you know I got in

674
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: trouble with the office because I jumped in your run

675
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: a car and I didn't take my return flight home.

676
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: No oh, I got heat. Who told you to drive

677
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: with Jazz? And I said, Dreamer, why, yeah? And I

678
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: said she was by herself and she had to drive

679
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: my I don't even know where we were, but it

680
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: was far. Yeah, And I said I didn't want her

681
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: to drive by herself. I didn't think it was a

682
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: big deal. Now you should have never did. I got

683
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: in trouble with the office because I was a friend

684
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: and I drew. Yeah, people, there's something else. I remember

685
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: when Rodney injured his leg and he had to fly

686
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: out the next day to go see about getting surgery.

687
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: So I had to fly to Alabama and they literally

688
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: had to like really think about allowing me to go

689
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: with him. And I'm like, are you seriou like to do?

690
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: He can't even walk, you know, he had to urinate

691
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: in a trash can. Like if I wasn't there, Oh

692
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: my god, I would help him. Yeah. They they really

693
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: they didn't want me to go. I got hate for that,

694
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: but I told them I'm going. If you like it

695
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: or not, I'm going. That's my husband, you know. But

696
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: they document everyone else's surgery and pre op, postop all

697
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: that shit. But they are even me to go and

698
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: be there to support my husband. Exactly. It just baffles

699
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: you know. It really does depend on who you know

700
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: and what you do. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean they

701
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: told me go oil up your chest and knock on

702
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: Vince's door and lean it over the desk, not lying.

703
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm not lying, And I said I don't do that.

704
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: I've never done that. They were like, yeah, just put

705
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: some put some oil on your chest and go nothing. Hey, Vince,

706
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: yeah I can know. I'm not. Oh well, you don't

707
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: want it bad enough. Apparently I don't because I'm not

708
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, and you know, and they didn't utilize

709
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: you the way they have. You know what I'm saying,

710
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: like like tremendous Mike skills, you know, like, girl, it's

711
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: just I told Vince to his face, I wanted to

712
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: take Kevin Thorn's finish here and he goes, we don't

713
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: do that here. Yeah. I go, well, then what do

714
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: you do because I'm not really doing much. I know,

715
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: I know. They they had me run doing a run

716
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: in on Kelly Kelly in a bikini and they got

717
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 1: upset because I got a pop. I'm like, you run

718
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: in on our bikini match, yes, at one time, and

719
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: you pie. I think you pie chased me and I

720
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: took a bump through the ropes to the floor and

721
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: I had to do something to Kelly Kelly and you know,

722
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: they're like, well you heal in, You're getting the baby

723
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: face pop. I'm like, this is e c W. They

724
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: didn't get it. What do you not even expect and

725
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: they didn't really like Kelly Kelly anyway at the time,

726
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: so you know, the mailman could have did a run

727
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: in on They definitely dropped the ball. There were so

728
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: many of us meeting the originals who wanted to work

729
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: and he wanted to do things. And and when you,

730
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, when I got that call that said we

731
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: have nothing for you, I laughed. I literally laughed at

732
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Johnny Ace and I was like, are you kidding me

733
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: right now? Because how many meetings did I go in

734
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: and pitch this or I want to do this. How

735
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: can you tell someone who has ideas you have nothing

736
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, I don't get it. I was a

737
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: champion twice and they told me the same damn story.

738
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: Creative just can't come up with anything. I'm like, how

739
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: hell I go from being in Mania and you know,

740
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: so there's nothing you can come up with? No, and

741
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: and you're there for what three years? The whole your

742
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: contract and then they just said we're not renewing. They

743
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: didn't they couldn't come up with anything for me. I'm like, dude,

744
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: I said, I can tell my own story in the ring.

745
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't need a writer, right, you know. I couldn't

746
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: do my own storyline, but I, Rodney and I we

747
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: went and wrote a six week storyline out. We turned

748
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: it into Fit Poly even helped us. That's how it

749
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: was just fucking nuts. We turned it into the Fit

750
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: Fit gave it to Stephanie. Stephanie gave it to Vince.

751
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: A couple of days later, Stephanie go jazz good news

752
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: and bad news. I'm like, okay, great, Like, I don't

753
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: know what the fuck do I want to hear? First?

754
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: She goes, good news, we love your idea. Bad news,

755
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna put it on someone else. Oh my god,

756
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: that's the worst you got it. I don't know. I

757
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: didn't even give a brat's ass. I stopped. I haven't

758
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: watched unbelievable. Oh that would have pissed me off so bad.

759
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: What do you what do you do? What do you say?

760
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: You know? You want to just oh my god, that's terrible. Yeah.

761
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: And back then was was like social media, probably because

762
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: you could been tweet. Yeah, I can't even that's my idea. Yea.

763
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: If social media was back then, I mean, oh my god,

764
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: oh girl, that's terrible. Yes, yes, And that's put my

765
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: hand on a babble right, I believe you. I believe you. Yeah, unbelievable.

766
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: And prior to that, give me one seconds, would come

767
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: tell me Jazz, you're you're You're great. You'll never have

768
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,839
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00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,520
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804
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: some ring rust off. You know, there was no time

805
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: fraying of how long I was going to stay there.

806
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: So I was there doing nothing because uh, Cornett wouldn't

807
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,520
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00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,680
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809
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: he didn't know how long I was gonna be there.

810
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: You know. They told me I was gonna be there

811
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, but maybe like a month

812
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: and a half two months. Okay, but weird because your

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00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: debut at the Survivor series for them when they kill

814
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: e c W. So you brought you as part of

815
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: the group and they killed it the same night, and

816
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, well, Jazz, you know what, I

817
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: was shitting bricks. I thought I lost the job. Really

818
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: really yeah. I was like, oh my God, Like, now

819
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? You know? Oh could you thought

820
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: you were just gonna be with the ECW brand. Yeah.

821
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: The storyline was that that night when the alliance, the

822
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: WCW ECW Alliance lost, those guys were out of jobs

823
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: and they found loopholes to bring him back to TV

824
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: every so often, but that night it was left to limbo.

825
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: Unless you were a champion, you were gone. Yep, exactly,

826
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: crazy man, crazy, you know. And I'm grateful and I'm

827
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: so thankful for the opportunity of the platform, you know,

828
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: of being ww' Women's Champion. You know, I just I

829
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: just feel I deserved a little more. You know. I

830
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: never received an action figure. I never had merch anything. Yeah,

831
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, you had a better career there

832
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: than I did. But they they actually scanned me for

833
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: the action figure me too, yeah, And I was like really,

834
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, yeah, go and get scared. And

835
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, we're not doing it. They flew

836
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: me and I was home. They're like, we got to

837
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: get you in here right now. There's a high demand

838
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: for your action figure. So they flew me in, you know,

839
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: and did all this and that, and I'm like, what happened?

840
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: What did I do? Yeah, you didn't do anything. You

841
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. I should say, yes, it's not you,

842
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: it's not you, it's them. Tell myself anyway. But oh,

843
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: then you love how Mickey James put him on the

844
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: spot about the trash bag. Trash bag. I mean, you know,

845
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a nicer way to same clothing back

846
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: to someone. At least they got their stab. It was

847
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: so long ago with us, I was like, was my

848
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: shit in the trash bag? Or I didn't have any

849
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: stuff there? Because I really kept stuff there either, but

850
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: I had items. But I'm just thinking, like, was mine

851
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: received back in a trash bag? No, I'm sure it was.

852
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: If that's what they've been doing all these years, how

853
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: did they ship? Well, it came in a box, and

854
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 1: then I guess in the box was the trash bag?

855
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: Trash bag? Yeah? I mean, look, that's right. I was

856
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: told this from day one. Everybody is replaceable. It doesn't

857
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: matter who you are or what you do. You could

858
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: be on top one day and then out the door

859
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: the next, you know, so you know, it didn't matter

860
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: how many times you were champer this or that. When

861
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: they're done, they're done with you and don't have to

862
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: have a reason. No, because I didn't do absolutely anything,

863
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: you know, never had heat with anyone, nor confrontations, just

864
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, first one in the first one there at

865
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: the venue, in the ring, always working on my shit,

866
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. Well I always tell kids today, you know,

867
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: that's not the mecca. People want to think that I

868
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: want to work. You can't go work there. But if

869
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: you're fired, there is life after w W. Yeah, people

870
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: can't handle that. Yeah, they can't handle I guess just

871
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: so call themselves celebrities or whatever. They can't handle going

872
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: again into nine to five. You know that shit didn't

873
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: bother me because I will. I'm a mother first, exactly,

874
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: you know, So if I got to go by pam

875
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: bus and clothes, you know, I gotta do what I

876
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: gotta do because I left the first job I had

877
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: after my kids were born, I became a CNA at

878
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: a nursing home. Frannie, I think I remember you telling me, yes,

879
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it, you know. But you

880
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: know who says, you know, go wiping someone's ass that

881
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: that didn't bother me at all to do what you

882
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: gotta do for your family. Question questioned me about that

883
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: all the time, like how do you feel from going

884
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: kicking ass to cleaning ass? This is the way you

885
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: looking at it, you know. Yeah, but I gotta do

886
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. It's a job. It's a job.

887
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: And look at you now, you're doing so much, you

888
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It doesn't matter if you were

889
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: never in the sport again. You left your mark on

890
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: the business. And we all know how good and talented

891
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: you are, you know what I mean? So your fans

892
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: know it doesn't matter if if you worked, you know,

893
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: as a maid or as a janet. Who cares? You're

894
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: working and you're providing for your family. That pisss me

895
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: off when people say, oh, so and so works at Target,

896
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: Now who cares? I mean it just oh, it irks

897
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: me so badly, and my hands or something support him.

898
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: Maybe wouldn't have to work at Target. Well, some people

899
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: don't want to be in the business anymore, you know

900
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, some people legitimately. I mean I had

901
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: a period where I was like, I just want to

902
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: be home with my family. Yeah, you know. I think

903
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: as a mother, we all kind of go through that.

904
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: You want to be with your children. Then they get

905
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: a certain age and the calls start coming and you're like, well,

906
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: I could make a buck here, should I do it? Okay?

907
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: And then you get sucked back into it. You get

908
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: sucked back in fran I've kind of stepped back a

909
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: few times just to say, you know what I'm done

910
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: and get a job, get some insurance, yeah, you know,

911
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: and just be normal. And again, like you said, that

912
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: phone call comes in You're like, fuck, okay, but back

913
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: then full speed. But the best part is you're your

914
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: own boss now. Fact, what was it like leaving w

915
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: WE and going to the Indies. I'm like, I enjoyed

916
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: my freedom right. No one could tell me what to say,

917
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: what to do. You know, of course I'm still going

918
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: in being professional and doing whatever the promoter wants of me.

919
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: If it makes sense, sure, but yeah, to just have

920
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: your freedom and just people just don't understand that WWE

921
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: is a job. Yes, it's nice to wake up and

922
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: say I don't feel like working today. I want to

923
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: give my kids to the park, or I just I

924
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: want to clean my house and you could do that.

925
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: You look at your calendar, you say, okay, I got

926
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: two weekends book the last two Lincolns of the month.

927
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not gonna do anything, you know, Joey,

928
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: enjoy your family. The family to me is everything. Yes,

929
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: they are everything. And everybody keeps asking me, oh if

930
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: AW calls we. I'm forty nine years old. I don't

931
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: want to be on the road. I don't want a

932
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: full time job. I'm doing four jobs from the houseize

933
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: it is, yeah, just hustling, still hustling. Yeah, I'll take

934
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: a payday when the payday's good. Yeah. If it's shitty,

935
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay home. No offense. But I'd rather be

936
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: with my kids, exactly, I'd rather and believe me, i'd

937
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: rather not work at all. But you know, yeah, you

938
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: gotta do something. Yeah, we like nice things, you know.

939
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: I like to buy my stuff myself and not have

940
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: to say to my husband, can I help a candle?

941
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's still the good to go on your

942
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: own wallet and get your money out of that. Absolutely

943
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: say this girl, she gets it, she gets it. Well,

944
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm super stoked about texting, that is I believe. July

945
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, Yes, all the time, I believe. So yeah,

946
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: so you'll be there of course, love yeah about that.

947
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: I'm so excited when they told me you were coming

948
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: in because I mentioned you prior. Oh did I have

949
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: heat with you? I don't even know. I didn't have

950
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: heat the office there. They just told me, okay, well

951
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: we'll we'll consider that, and yeah, well we'll get her

952
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 1: in even if it's for a meet and Greek, because

953
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: like wish she wrestling, like with Frannie, never really wrestled,

954
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: like that's not her deal. You know, I'm like no,

955
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,479
Speaker 1: but she can manage. She's great on the freaking Mike,

956
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, but it all worked out. God,

957
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: dang it. See the problem with me now, I have

958
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: had so many surgeries. I'm not allowed to bump because

959
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: I have mesh in my stomach. Yeah, because my abdominals

960
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: keep coming apart, so they have. Yeah, so I'm not

961
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: allowed to do any core. Yeah. So if I take

962
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: a bad bump and that rips, I have to go

963
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: right back in for emergency surgery. Yeah. That's nothing worth

964
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: nothing's worth that now, So I'll go and I'll do something.

965
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, my wrestling days are yeah. Yeah, yeah, no

966
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: one makes tags for me. I'm good. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah,

967
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: I miss you too, girl. I'm excited about seeing you.

968
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: Where can people Let's start with your school if anybody's

969
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: interested in even if you don't live in Texas and

970
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: you want to travel, where can they find you for

971
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: that dog Pounddojo dot Com? And as dog geez, yes,

972
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: what was it again? Dog pound, dog Pound dojo dot com? Okay,

973
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: and then where can we find you on social media?

974
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: On Twitter? I'm at Dina, I'm on the score. Jazz

975
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: Ig is my shoot name. But I'm never really on ig.

976
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I'm not photogenic, you know, Like

977
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: it took me all. I had to put some lashes

978
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: on and lipstick to do this. You know, it's like

979
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: that's just not my thing. You know. Here, I got

980
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: on some shorts and a T shirt right now. I

981
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: got on sweatpants right now. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like,

982
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: so that Facebook, I'm underneath my shoot name again, Carlen Begnel.

983
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, hit me up. I'm taking bookings for seminars.

984
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm actually doing my retirement tour. So I have a

985
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: few matches, you know, still left in me. Reach out, Yes,

986
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: these two I need to forget these calendars feel for July,

987
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: August and September. How is your health health wise? I'm good, friend.

988
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: I had to start going to get a massage every

989
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: week because my sciatica was just torture. Yeah, my knees

990
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: are shot. I can't jump, I can't do anything. That's why,

991
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, I told myself it's time to, you know,

992
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: hang the boots up. If I can't go in the

993
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: ring and do the shit that I'm that jazz does,

994
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, is why I get in there. I don't

995
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: want to be called look at that old bitch. You know,

996
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: go sit down. You know, I just I've worked too

997
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: hard to for my legacy to get shipped on, because

998
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: I still think I belong in the ring. That's when

999
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: you get in there and you do things that you

1000
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: know you can do, like you said, with impact, Yeah,

1001
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: things that make you shine, and it's okay because you've

1002
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: earned it. You know, you've earned your spot. When I

1003
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: started with Paul back in ninety three, when I started,

1004
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: he told I was I was training to be a

1005
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: women's wrestler, right and he says, no, you're not going

1006
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: to do that. He says, because women's wrestling doesn't sell,

1007
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: that's what. But back then it didn't. Yeah, and he said,

1008
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 1: right now, you're going to be a manager, and that's

1009
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get over with. That's why I've never

1010
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: really had to like be a female wrestler. She didn't

1011
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: want me to do that, you know, so I in

1012
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: my training, I just stopped at that point and everything

1013
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: was just on the fly. You know, you're gonna take this, Okay,

1014
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: what is it? We we'll just do it out there. Okay,

1015
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: that's fine. Never had to go through what you did

1016
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: because he kind of pumped the brakes on me. You know.

1017
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: But so when you came in, there wasn't that women's

1018
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: division that you're probably looking for. But you know, but

1019
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,479
Speaker 1: you the same with me, Like he made me beat

1020
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: up the boys. You're more realistic than me, because I

1021
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: mean you came in like a brick shiitth house. You

1022
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: were built and you you just had that muscularity and

1023
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: you can go like you were just you were keeping

1024
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: up with everyone. So it was I think it was perfect.

1025
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: You know, you were little. You know you saw something

1026
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: in me. Yeah it a little black girl from Memphis, Mississippi,

1027
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, shows up and and uh Louisiana duor try out.

1028
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: A few weeks later, they called me in to to

1029
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: come to the arena E c W Arena. You know,

1030
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: like I've worked with you so many times, both both

1031
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: being faces, me being a heel, you being a face.

1032
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: You were a heel, I was a fa. I mean

1033
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: we worked together so many times. But one of my

1034
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: favorite memories, real quick is when you were at ringside

1035
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: for something I was not involved. I was watching through

1036
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: the curtain. Your wig got snatched off your head and

1037
01:02:54,280 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: you freaked out, screaming my wig yeah, do you remember.

1038
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if this was the same one. It

1039
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: was probably happened more than once. But I had a

1040
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: ponytail and it come out and I took off. I

1041
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: went to the back in the locker room. Hurry up,

1042
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: wrapped it back around on your hands hand, put it

1043
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: in there, and ran back out and finished the match.

1044
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: Nova laughed at me for probably months. Oh my god,

1045
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: I just seeing you freak out like you didn't freak

1046
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: out ever. Spot It was my wist. Yes, girl, yes,

1047
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, how much money I'm saving now?

1048
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god? What made you do that? You know,

1049
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: wearing weaves for over twenty years. People don't realize that

1050
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: costs a lot of money, money, a lot of money.

1051
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: But I had just so much damaged hair. And then

1052
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: I got sick and they put me on some medicine

1053
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: and then like I did more damage. And you know,

1054
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: because my mentality was I didn't give a damn about

1055
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: my hair because I always was covering it up. Yeah, yeah,

1056
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: my hair. So my husband said, baby, why don't you

1057
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: just shave it? And I was like, I don't know.

1058
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: I've had hair all my life, Like, how could I

1059
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: do that? So I was like hell with it when

1060
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: I had and shaved it and everyone seemed to love it,

1061
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: and so you look great with it. I mean my

1062
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: first reaction seeing you, I said to myself, oh, because

1063
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: I know I'd spoken to you and I knew you

1064
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: were going through some stuff and you were sick. And

1065
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: I said, well, if she's sick and she had to

1066
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: do it, that's okay. But she looks freaking good. But

1067
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't pulled that off. Yeah, so many people thought

1068
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: I had cancer and I still fans still walk up

1069
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: to me. I'm praying for you. Everything works out, like

1070
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: thank you. I need prayer regardless anyway, just well, you

1071
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: look great. I always say this to my guests that

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01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: I've worked with, Thank you for being so easy to

1073
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: work with, because I've never once had a fight with

1074
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: Jazz my whole life, never once and never had an

1075
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: issues with anyone. Frannie, well that's good I have Uh,

1076
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: we won't go into that, but you were. You were

1077
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: literally one of my favorite people to work with because

1078
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: it was just easy. Breezy always had a good time,

1079
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: always laugh and smile, and we're still friends today. So

1080
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: at this sly E c W Man like you just

1081
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: it was nothing but love Fran and I love you guys.

1082
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,479
Speaker 1: You guys open your arms again. You know, the black

1083
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: girl coming in from the country not knowing shit. You know,

1084
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: never traveled before, right, you know, playing by myself and

1085
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm freaking out, you know, but your ladies, like y'all

1086
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: was so cool. You know, we clicked right away. I

1087
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: remember the first night you guys came in and we

1088
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: we just clicked right away. Tried to make you feel comfortable,

1089
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: and it just it makes me happy that we're still

1090
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: friends and we're still in touch. So I wish you,

1091
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, up and bust success I needed. I know

1092
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: we all do, sweetie. But I'm looking forward to July.

1093
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you before then, I'm sure. Yeah, And

1094
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: just give my love to the girls and to that man.

1095
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: And your kids are growing, Oh my god, they're getting big.

1096
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: My daughter will be twelve in July. Yeah, we were

1097
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: right around the same time you were little before me.

1098
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: But my son's nine. Yes, they're getting older. Time for

1099
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: another one. Oh my god. I had I made sure, snippy,

1100
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: sniff bro, I had a hysterectomy, honey. Yeah. Yeah, winds

1101
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: are a lot, but the best thing is they'll always

1102
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: have each other. That's what I love. Cats and dogs.

1103
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: That's okay though, you know what Jazz, especially if they're

1104
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: getting in the business. Because we had Divon on a

1105
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks to go and his boys, you know,

1106
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: the twins are doing their thing. And that's what I

1107
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: told THEE. I said, they're always gonna have each other

1108
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: on the road, and that is priceless because I didn't

1109
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: have anyone. I didn't have a mentor a female person.

1110
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: When I started, like a gravity to the guys, because

1111
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: that's that's all we had. That yeah, yeah, but they're

1112
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: so fast, you know. I'm like, yeah, you guys, you know. Yeah.

1113
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: But they'll always have each other, and they have great

1114
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: parents that know the business inside and out. And you

1115
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: could put a scare into the boys for them, so

1116
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be all right. I'm sure, right, all right,

1117
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: Well this was great rest in peace, But remember what

1118
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: was my spot? I'll remember, she goes, I'll remember everybody's spots,

1119
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: and we're like, girl, you can't even remember your own spots.

1120
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: How are you gonna remember everybody's spot? Yeah? I got

1121
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: wrest soul, but that didn't work to Oh well, anyway,

1122
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: I love you, and I will talk to you and

1123
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: we got to talk about that other thing too that

1124
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: I gave you and we'll talk. Yes, yes, yeah, did

1125
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: you did you do what I told you to do?

1126
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: Get a chance to girl? All right, I'll talk to you.

1127
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: Please do ma'am. All right, I love you here, Jazz,

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01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Thank you, guys, Bye bye. Well that

1129
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: was completely worth the like year we've been trying to

1130
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 1: get seven years. I'm trying to get that. That was awesome. Yeah,

1131
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: she's great, uh again, underrated, underappreciate it, but loads of

1132
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: talent and a good, good person to boot. You know,

1133
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: I only associate myself with good people. You really do.

1134
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: But okay, I've said this every time you you you,

1135
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 1: you paint these pictures of like you know, you guys

1136
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: are all friends like you legit, we're all friends. And

1137
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: everybody gravitated to one another. All these nice people all

1138
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: gravitate and it's beautiful to watch. And every time we

1139
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: talk to somebody it's the same thing every time. I

1140
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: love the connection you guys. You could tell the deep

1141
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: friendships don't die, they just the And that is so awesome.

1142
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: Thank you. I can say thank you for bringing Jazz

1143
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: to the show. I'm glad. I'm glad she was able

1144
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: to come on, so that that took the whole hour.

1145
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: Ups it did. Let's just wrap up. You want to

1146
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: talk about Patreon Roe, we do? I do? You know?

1147
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: Just quickly, that was what the question I asked about

1148
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: the survivor's suit. That's something I have legit thought about

1149
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: since two thousand and one. Why Jazz, who was such

1150
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: an ECW staple, was brought in the night they killed

1151
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: this Oh okay, yeah, it's and and you know, her

1152
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: being scared is like crazy. Well you walk in and

1153
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute's done, my debut and my

1154
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: last night and the same breath, Like that's crazy. And

1155
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: they actually and they gave her a great spot on

1156
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: the show because they in the closing image is Stephanie

1157
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: and Shane McMahon thinking that they lost you know, their

1158
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: their you know, their gigs, they think they lost everything,

1159
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: and Jaz this position right next to Stephanie McMahon, So

1160
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: you literally see Jazz as they're going to black. Okay.

1161
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: So but it's like, but we're never gonna see her

1162
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: again because they just killed the uh definitely storyline. Even

1163
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: though she you know, she got to wear the gold.

1164
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: She definitely deserved more. But anyway, she's wonderful. Here's what

1165
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: we got some fun stuff lined up, all right, Ready,

1166
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 1: here we go Guess the TV catchphrases. So I believe

1167
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: this one is a quiz. So we're gonna go through

1168
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: and it's gonna give us some options, and we'll go

1169
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: through and try to guess some TV catchphrases. That'll be interesting.

1170
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna have our buddy Troy Patreon members join us

1171
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: to do guess the wrestling nicknames. Oh no, I'm gonna

1172
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: suck with that, Okay, So I mean, I'm sure there'll

1173
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: be a couple of pops in there. You know, there'll

1174
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: be some easy ones. But Troy is going to join

1175
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: us for that. Now, this one I'm personally bringing to you,

1176
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: I think my favorite match from the history of ECW,

1177
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: and you're involved in it for a very brief, little

1178
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: couple couple of minutes. But I just think it's an

1179
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: interesting little match. I think for you it might bring

1180
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,440
Speaker 1: back some of those happy ECW memories because it unedited

1181
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: music in their experience. Okay. The King of the Hill

1182
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: Battle Royal from December nineteen ninety six. I don't even

1183
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: remember it you you and Shane are in matching outfits.

1184
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: That's all. I'll just leave it. Well, that was in

1185
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:39,879
Speaker 1: New York. Yes, the Fairgrounds, I believe right. It was freezing.

1186
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: I think it was snowing and we had to crawl.

1187
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: I talked about this place before. I can't remember what

1188
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: it's called, but the locker room was here. There was

1189
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: an alley way and then the building, so you had

1190
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: to go outside and I remember running across begetting to

1191
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: wear his shirt, which I was thrilled because it was freezing. Yeah. Okay,

1192
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: so that's one of the probably that night. It is

1193
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: probably my favorite match in ECW. It's just it's everybody.

1194
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: It's literally everybody and and the kitchen sink. But there's

1195
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: no haven't watched it in twenty five years. So we're

1196
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna do that this week. And you want to want

1197
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Speaker 1: I put them on sales. You can just get rid

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Speaker 1: you can find me at ecw DVA Francine. Twitch is

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Speaker 1: going well. It is www dot Twitch, dot tv, forward Slash,

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Speaker 1: ECWDVA Francine. If you want a cameo, you can always

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Speaker 1: I hope you all are staying healthy and safe and

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Speaker 1: with that that is a wrap. Ooho