1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: As soon as you're drawing, you're just like not thinking about, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, trying to sack somebody. Or my dad had 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: already known the news that oh I'm going by a dolting. 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: He was breaking down, crying, and it was just like, 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy that, you know, you're just embracing 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: who you are. I'm trying to be the dude. I'm 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: trying to be the guy that you know comes after 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: a guy like a sug, a guy like a you know, 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: all the Big Time ninety nine that we've had here. 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. Off the By. 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Feel rested, rested, ready to go, Ready for the second half? 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Push Nice? You have some pumpkin beers over the by. 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: I did have pumpkin beers. It was Halloween weekend. So 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: if you're not having pumpkin beers a Halloween exactly and 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: also doing it wrong, you're doing it way wrong. And 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: as a proven pumpkin beer veteran here, you don't make 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: the mistake. This is a mistake that everyone makes. You 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: go out Halloween Halloween Day, you say, oh I want 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: one for trick or tree tonight. They're gone, They're gone. 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, you gotta you gotta stock up right now. 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: We've had this conversation and about so. I I resist 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: it for the I resist buying them too soon. But 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: you gotta get in that sweet spot. Oh well, it's 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: like early to mid October. That's when you stuck up on. 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: I picked them up in September. I have feeling the fire. 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: You're you're part of the problem. Well, if you're, you 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: just have to take managing to your own games. I'm 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: sorry that's early October. Not some of the good ones 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: are going. I actually I was at the story the 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: other day. It's all Christmas beer now, all of it, 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: all of it. So the hell out of here, all 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: of it. So but yes, definitely enjoyed some pumpkin beer. 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean Halloween on a Sunday with a by It's chilling. 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: You get better than that nice chill. It was beautiful, 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: her fit perfect. Anyway, Anyway, that's behind us. Now we're 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: back in grinder, A couple of grinders right here, going 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: into a big Week nine game against the Minnesota Vikings. 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: The Ravens historically have played really well coming off the 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: bi under John Harball. Uh, it's gonna be a good game. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the Vikings are they have a good offense, 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: they have some some weapons, but the Ravens are getting healthier, 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: which is great news. You know, they didn't make any 43 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: news of the trade deadline, but getting some guys back 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: off the shelf, which is like making a move. Um. 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited for this game. But before we 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: get into that, we've got a big time guest. Big 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: time guests, big in size, big in athleticism. We can 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: impact big and impact. We've got rookie first round pick 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: odafe oh Ay joining the lounge today. Let's jump into 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: that interview. But I want to start here. Your sketches 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: are pretty great and one stood out to me in particular. 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: That's the Mario sketch. Okay, are you a Mario Kart guy? 53 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: I was like when I was younger, I was just 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: a big Mario fan. Like, Okay, I had Smash Bros. 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: You know the system game Cube, obviously we all Nintendo. 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: I just loved Mario. And then I'm a type of 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm a type of artistic guy or like whatever, I 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: have like the most interests and whatever, like it is 59 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: like a big part of my life in that in 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: that situation, I just I just need to draw it. 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: So at that time my life was Mario. Um. I 62 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: loved everything about it. So I would always just sketch 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: different types of marios, Like there was cartoon three D. 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, just just different stuff and sixty four is 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: the best, and sixty four is the best. It was. 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: I was st four like, but I that was like art, well, 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, your head is a little before. My head 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: was straight up and I'm not that old. Seven thirty seven, 69 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: that's that's ancient by his standards, football stannards. But was like, 70 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I think I know someone who's thirty seven. But your 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: other sketch caught my hi though, two the guys smoking. 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh that was it was future. That's okay, Okay, 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. I got you. So 74 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: how did you? How did you get into it? Um? 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: So my dad actually, um, he does all that. He draws, paints, 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: oil paint, um you know, color, color pencils. He did 77 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: all that, um when I was when I was really young. 78 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: So I was just always looking at him do it. 79 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: You know. I would just watch him sketch and just 80 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, really bring things to life on the paper. 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: And I fell in love with that and obviously, I 82 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: think by allogicy he gave me the gift as well. 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: So I just always wanted to sketch, draw, you know, 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: do things in my hands, you know, just just just 85 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: try to create something. So, you know, I've always had 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: at a young age, I like low key kind of 87 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: digressed and not tried to, you know, do it as 88 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: much as because of the amount of time that um, 89 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: you know I have right now and how much time 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: to him it is, so I gotta get back to it, 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: you know. And is it kind of like a stress 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: reliever relaxing, Okay, It's like as soon as you're drawn, 93 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: you're just like not thinking about you know, trying to 94 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: sack somebody or just you know, just draw and you 95 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: just try to bring your thoughts and put it on paper. 96 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: It's really you know, stress. Really, I gotta show you 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: some of my sketches. Oh, I draw to a flip 98 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: of of both say what this? So how do you 99 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: how do you do this? See? I do a grid 100 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: pat right, so I just take a picture. I'm like, really, 101 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: I can't do it for my brain. I have to 102 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: have a picture and then I can recreate that. Like really, 103 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: well that's all that's me like I gotta like if 104 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I see it I'm drawing in terms of like really 105 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: trying to like thinking about it and put it into paper. 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I struggle a little bit, but I see you all right, 107 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: all right? Yeah, so what do you guys? Do you 108 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: set it up like off to the side and then 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: you're you're looking at it as you're drawing. Is how 110 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: do you guys do it? I just have like a 111 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: paper to the side to side looking at it, just 112 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, just mirror everything. Do you grid it? Do 113 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: you grid your drawing out? First? Do you do like 114 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: the two by two grida grid it? I do like like, 115 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, sculp his you know, his body if it's 116 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: like a whole body, or sculp his face, you know, 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: and just try out you don't outline it nice steadily 118 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: start drawing to details. See when we get stressed out, 119 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: we're just we're gonna take the foe. See you a 120 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: little art studio exactly. It is really stressfully wrong the 121 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: same way it's really nice. Uh So another thing that 122 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, we'll get to some football are 123 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: in this podcast, but I want to talk about you 124 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: and your personality a little bit and who you are. 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool. When you talk to 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Clifton Brown for our Future story, you said your dad 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: called you a lion growing up. Can you talk a 128 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: little bit about that. That's my dad. You know, he's 129 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: just a very uh bold and courageous person, and like 130 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: he's really intentional with everything he does. He believes that 131 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: if you don't have a plan, you're planning planning to fail. 132 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: So like when I was growing up, he always told 133 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: me to attack everything with that lion like you're you're 134 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: the king of the jungle, You're the You're the guy. 135 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: So you you don't necessarily have to be the guy 136 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: at that moment or you believe it, but if you're 137 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: manifested and keep on saying it and just telling yourself, 138 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm the line, I'm the guy, I'm the dude, I'm 139 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: gonna get it done. It's just it's just gonna happen. 140 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna manifest it to happen. And you know, I've 141 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: just been carrying it ever since I was young, And 142 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: you know that's my that's my daughter, my dad. You know, 143 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: he's really just motivating me to be everything I can be. 144 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: Really find my purpose? Do you find yourself like telling 145 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: yourself that now in the NFL, you know, being a 146 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: rookie in the NFL and kind of being like, hey man, 147 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: I can do this. You know. Yeah, obviously when you 148 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: get to the the NFL, like you're a little skeptical in 149 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: terms of you just you're you're going to a new level, 150 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: so you don't know, you know what you're walking into, 151 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: but you know, you just gotta keep on telling you. 152 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: So I'm alone, I could do this. I'm here for 153 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: a reason, here for a reason. And once you get 154 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: that first hit you get, you're out there, You're you're 155 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: you're making plays. It's just really reaffirming yourself and continuing 156 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: manifest It seems like to me like that, like the 157 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: mental side of the game for you is something that 158 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: is really kind of an important piece, Like and I'm 159 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: not talking about like mental in terms of watching film 160 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but mental in terms of having 161 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: the confidence and knowing that you can do it. Can 162 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: you talk about that a little bit? I mean, I 163 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: feel like you have to with my my situation obviously, 164 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: on I started playing um pretty late in terms of 165 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: everyone that you know, I was playing like as a 166 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: young and I was I came late, So a lot 167 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: of My stuff was, you know, I'm a will myself 168 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: to dominate the person in front of me, because you know, 169 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I might not be in the same level in terms 170 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: of knowing the game, knowing this game as much as 171 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: someone has been playing, you know, since they were you know, 172 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: six years old, like a lot of these guys. But 173 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm out man, you I'm one on one. You're not 174 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: You're not gonna I'm not gonna go like that. And 175 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: it's that mentality where you know, you gotta beat the 176 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: man in front of you and if he beats you, 177 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna come back and I'm smack you 178 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: beat you. That that will to dominate And like I said, 179 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: my dad is still that in me and I feel 180 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: like you keep on that's how that's how you exceed 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: in football. So the other big thing with you was 182 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: when you were got drafted, you know, coming out and 183 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: saying my name's a Dafe, you know, and kind of 184 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: claiming that Nigerian heritage of yours. And that was a 185 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: really powerful moment. It was really cool to see, uh, 186 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: you know, what were the emotions like what was running 187 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: through your head at the time and made you want 188 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: to do that? Um, you know, everyone thinks it was premeditated. 189 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: It really wasn't. It was just like a spurt the 190 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: mom I felt like, you know, as soon as I 191 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: called my they called my name, and you know, all 192 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: this hard work, all this like self validation I had 193 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: to do just to lead up to this purpose, it 194 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: was just like I made it. And I just felt 195 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: I had all my culture, all my people around me, 196 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, people from Nigeria, people just that I haven't 197 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: seen himhile just because you know, I've been doing my 198 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: thing and in college and you know, you just you 199 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: don't always see your family. And I just saw so 200 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: many everything that helped me get to this stage in 201 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: my culture I was raised. You know, the food I 202 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: was eating, that's even a different story, but I want 203 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: to hear more about that. Like I was, I was 204 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: just so over like overwhelmed and filled with like this 205 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: just pride, with with with who I am, and I 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: felt like we're going with Jason even though as my 207 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: nance my middle name, I wasn't really showcasing everything I am. 208 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I was trying to be in this 209 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: cookie cutter of you know what what everyone um you know, 210 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, a black athlete was like, I 211 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: feel like I'm bigger than that. I'm I'm I'm I'm 212 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: I'm a Black American, but I'm also you know, I 213 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: have I have culture and you know, Nigerian as well. 214 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: And I feel like Nigerians are in a spot right 215 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: now where they need to be in that spotlight because 216 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: they're doing a lot of good things, not just in sports, 217 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, and entertainment, um you know, uh, you know, 218 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: the music industry and stuff like that. And I feel 219 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: like I just I just want to I just want 220 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: to show people that, you know, Nigerians are doing a 221 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: big thing. Yeah, it's awesome, I mean, because culture can 222 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: get whitewashed, you know, unless it's like claims, you know. 223 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: And I thought that was really cool and just the 224 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: way that like, you know, your name means a wealthy 225 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: individual does and not just wealthy in terms of money, 226 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: which I'm sure that's gonna come over your career playing 227 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: the where you are, that's coming, but like I thought 228 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: it was cool that it's like human support wellness, like 229 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: this like kind of deeper meaning of a wealthy individual 230 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: and you're kind of representing that and you're culture and 231 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: bring it all to the table. That's very cool. And 232 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: the other thing with that is so after you you 233 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of make that declaration what you said, it was 234 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of spurling a moment out of the draft. I remember, 235 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: we're on the call with you and you're like, no, 236 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: it's not Jason anymore. And and so like the next 237 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: day or a couple of days after where you like, 238 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: I am so glad that I did that. It wasn't 239 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: even the next day. It was that night because you know, 240 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: I had to celebrate with my family and because I 241 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: made a call with you guys outside because the house 242 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: was so loud, I heard my name and so I 243 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: had to rush outside and talk to you guys. When 244 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: I came back in, it was only it was like 245 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: a matter of like three minutes. My dad had already 246 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: known the news that oh I'm going by a doctor. 247 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: He was breaking down, crying, and it was just like, 248 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy that, you know, you're just embracing 249 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: who you are and you're not You're not just you know, 250 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: people are obviously are not gonna are gonna have trouble pronouncing, 251 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: people are gonna have a trouble understanding what you are 252 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: because it's different, But just embrace it because you can't 253 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: run away from where you are. You can't run away 254 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: from which your purpose is what you know, this is 255 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: your name, this is who you are, and it's wealth 256 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: and it's not just you know, monetary wealth, it's just 257 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: it's everything. So you know, just embracing and God isn't 258 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: continued to bless you, you know, show you your purpose. 259 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: That's what was that moment like for you? Like obviously 260 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: your dad has had a significant impact. You talked about 261 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: the lion piece and now the not you're drafted, where 262 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: that that's kind of a massive decision on your name 263 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: is made and you're talking with him minutes after just that, 264 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: I'm sure in an emotional moment, what was that like? 265 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: It's like I'm telling you like that that whole day 266 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: wasn't It was a roller coaster just because you know, 267 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: you don't know what your future is and you know, 268 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: just from going from anxiety and I know what you're 269 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: gonna do where you gonna get drafted and people are 270 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna pick you. And then you turn around and you 271 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: you're just embracing your culture and you got drafted. You 272 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: know where you're going, you know where your feature is 273 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: at least for the next four or five years. It's 274 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: just like a weight lifted off your vests and just 275 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: off your chest or shoulders, and you just really just 276 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: look back and thank God for everything and how I 277 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: worked the adversity, you know, and then you just gotta 278 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: get things to your parents because my parents went through 279 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: so much and they sacrificed so much put us all 280 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: through private school. UM. I don't know how they did it, 281 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, income was you know, it 282 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: was tough, but the way they did it and just 283 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: sacrifice their well being in their dreams too, hope that 284 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: you know, we can get to you know, where we're at. 285 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: It's just I was just so happy to see them 286 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: crying and just like like tears of joy. It was crazy. 287 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: I can't explain it. I'm trying to, but it was good. 288 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: It was good. Cool. What was childhood like growing up 289 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: in Howell, New Jersey, Um, and from my red pretty 290 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: white area, you know, so you kind of stood out 291 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: as the tall, you know, black It's cool. You know, 292 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: what what was it like? Um? You know it was, 293 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: it was, it was It was definitely it was different. 294 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: You know. I love how I love what it's done 295 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: for me and what it how it made me. But 296 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was just your house is in the 297 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: middle of you know, it was called Candlewood Commons. It's like, yeah, 298 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: but you're the only Nigerian, You're the only African. You're 299 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: really one of the only black people around everything. So 300 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: in your house is like culture. You're eating like Nigerian food, 301 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: you're Nigerian movies, getting taught, getting disciplined like a Nigerian 302 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: like as in you're if you're in Africa. But then 303 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: you go to school and you go to hang out 304 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: with your friends and you actually my parents were strict, 305 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: so even that it was it made sure that I 306 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: wasn't hanging out with people too much. So um, but 307 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: going to school, it was just so different. Like I 308 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: was going to school, it was a whole different culture. 309 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: It was a whole different way how people handle themselves, talked, 310 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: um like. So it was just like hard just trying 311 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: to change, you know, go from carrying yourself as you know, 312 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: this African culture and just going to to school all 313 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: the time and having to change like your dynamic. It's 314 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: like two different worlds and it was tough because but 315 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: it was good because it helped. It helped me and 316 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: allow me to adapt and be able to you know, 317 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: talk with with people in that and and like you know, 318 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: caucasionally white people. It helped me, you know, be able 319 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: to handle myself in that situation, and it made me 320 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: a more overall you know, well around it, you know individual, right. 321 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: And also I would imagine kind of taught you how 322 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: to embrace being different, you know, like like we talked about, 323 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, and that's an important lesson for a lot 324 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: of kids out there. Being different, Different is good, you know, 325 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: that's an important lesson. Yeah, I would I would imagine 326 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: that the sports. How did that? How important was that 327 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: in your household? You have what two younger brothers, right A, 328 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: sisters are just three boys. I have an older sister, 329 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: my dog, my best friend. That's awesome. So I got 330 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: your other brothers. Your your brothers are athletes, all right, 331 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: and so all you guys played basketball growing up. So 332 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: I gotta believe that in your household, sports was a 333 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: huge piece of the equation. It's crazy. Obviously it was. 334 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: We were all athletic, but you know they were they 335 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: were Africans, so they were driving, they were driving academics. 336 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I always say it was like the five per was 337 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: either being an engineer, doctor, um, scientists, just you got 338 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: you had to be in one of those. So but 339 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: until we started getting really good at what we were doing, 340 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: like obviously basketball and then me later into football, my 341 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: parents kind of you know, slowly started all right, you can, 342 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't care about being editor right now. Yeah, but 343 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: it's been big in our family. My mom loves basketball. 344 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: She's a huge lebron fan. Like it's crazy how much 345 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: she's a fan of him. So it really started with 346 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: basketball and just a job to be competitive. We're a 347 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: competitive house too, like really competitive. So me and my 348 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: brothers we would always just try to win up each 349 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: other and try to you know, be great in whatever 350 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,479 Speaker 1: we put our minds too. But um, you know, athletics 351 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: really just helped us. And like what I was talking 352 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: about before, just being in a spot where um, you 353 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: know you were you were the odd man. Now you 354 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: were different. But athletics really helped me, like you know, 355 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: in the grate and you know, just just just be 356 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: with people and just you know, be able to make 357 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: friends with you know, people that didn't look like look 358 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: like me. Right, So what great did you start playing football? Um? 359 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: I started the junior junior year while so what what 360 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: made you make that transition because of football? Coach never 361 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: stopped banging down his door saying get on the football field. 362 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: It's harassing me. Jim said, that's my dog. I appreciate you. 363 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Appreciate him so much and I own him a lot 364 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: because you know, like I said, I made that switch 365 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: to football mainly because of him. In the situation I 366 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: was in. You know, I was switching schools. The school 367 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: I was in, Ruggers Prep, didn't have football. It was 368 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: a private school, but it was straight. I went there 369 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: for basketball. So, um, you know, once basketball didn't work out, 370 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: and you know, my situation in the school wasn't you know, 371 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: going to be conducive to how my future was gonna go, 372 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: I had to make a switch and go to a 373 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: different school, which is Blair Academy. And obviously they told 374 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: me that, Um, in order for me to get you know, 375 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: my schoolars should go to school, I had to you know, 376 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: play through sports. And you know I wasn't trying to. 377 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't having that because my my mind, my mindset 378 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: at this time was that I wanted to go to 379 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: the NBA and if I was playing football another sport, 380 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna be I wasn't going to be focused 381 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: and you know, be able to put my all into 382 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: basketball and you know, try to try to go to 383 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: the league. So I was kind of I was kind 384 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: of mad. You know, you got forced into it, forced 385 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: it to it. That's the crazy part. And you know 386 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: my coach, Jim Sailor, he was he was irritating. How 387 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, he just kept on, you know, pressing me 388 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: to play football. And I always said God, because in 389 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: any other situation, I would have just not I would 390 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: have not played it. But something just told me that 391 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: I should just do it. I could have went to 392 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: a different school and just played basketball. You know, I 393 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: had to go to Blair and then you know the 394 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: rest is history of that one. That's interesting. So how 395 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: long did it take before you started kicking booty? Um? 396 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: It took probably um, you know, it was probably that 397 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: first season, my first game. It took into that two 398 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: weeks because the first game. In the first game, I 399 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: got my really blowing out and you know, I was 400 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: running down on kickoff and you know, I was, I'm 401 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm coming from playing basketball, so I'm running high, right, 402 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at what's going on in some kickoff 403 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: return guy just knocks me clean. Man, I had to 404 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: go to hospital. I could have sworn that was the 405 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: last time I touched the football skin, but you know, 406 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: I had to pick myself up by my my straps 407 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: and just you know, get back on the field. And 408 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: certainly after that, I adjusted and you know, started just 409 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: continue with getting better. And at what point did coaches 410 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: from colleges start calling after my first season and they said, 411 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: we think you could play this football thing in college. Yeah, 412 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, stopped playing basketball like my Actually, 413 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: my basketball coach he told me, you know, because after 414 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: football and that's my basketball starts. So he had a 415 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: meeting with me. He was like, you need to make 416 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: a decision on what you want to do because one, 417 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: it's hurting my recruiting. I don't know if you're all 418 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: in with basketball because you have your situations. You can 419 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: go to the NFL for football, but you can go 420 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: to college for basket ball through four years and I 421 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: have to find out like a job somewhere. I knew 422 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: that wasn't what I wanted to do with my life. 423 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: So he let me know right there. I had to 424 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: make a decision and I still played basketball, but at 425 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: this point, I was like, I was bought into football? 426 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Was it at all? Like did it feel like you 427 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: were giving up something that you loved? Like, oh yeah. 428 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: People think it's so easy to you know, make that 429 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: trip because obviously you're playing football and you're in the 430 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: NFL now, But they don't understand like how it could 431 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: be psychologically to change what you thought your makeup was 432 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: in the league and n B a god like I was, 433 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: but be going to I had to pay attention to 434 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: what I was. Actually I was a six five center, 435 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: was exactly. I wasn't going to translate to the league. 436 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: So you know, it took me a lot. It took 437 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: a lot for me to actually try to switch gears 438 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: and just come come to terms with what my plan was, 439 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: what my purpose was. But as soon as I started 440 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: seeing getting more success, I was like, yeah, this is 441 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: what my calling was. I should have just found earlier. 442 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: But you know, everyone is a path that you defined, 443 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: and you know when you find it, you've gott wrong 444 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: with it. Right, So you get a Penn State and 445 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: you were playing really really well there and then your 446 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: final season and this there's so much made out of 447 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: this with nose sacks thing, you know, it didn't get 448 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: a sack in your last season, which people are like, 449 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna draft this guy to be a 450 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: pass rusher. Like what's this about? You know, how much 451 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: did that bother you? Like all that chatter um. You know, 452 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: obviously if someone tells you it doesn't bother them. It's 453 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: the line, and it bothered me. You know, obviously, I'm 454 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: a competitor. I know who I am and what I 455 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: can be, and the people around me, like Penn State, 456 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, staff, even my teammates, they knew, they knew 457 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: what it was. They knew what type of player I 458 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: could be, you know, and stuff like that. So it 459 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: was tough for me, you know, having to read all 460 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. You know, you know, my my you know, 461 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: draft future, my actually my future being in jeopardies because 462 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: I made that decision to declare. And you know, after that, 463 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: that's when everyone you know started being critics and you 464 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: know we're film analysts and everything like that. But it 465 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: took a lot of like self confidence and just like 466 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: I told you, just affirming manifest that your line, you 467 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: could do it. You could do it. There's a reason 468 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: why you're there's a reason why you got drafted, and 469 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, I took that into draft prep. I took 470 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: that into um my pro day. I took that into 471 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: how I approached my my meetings and everything and just 472 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: was trying to be bold and just believe that you know, 473 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: you could do it. You just gotta work harder. You 474 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: came late. You started in this game late. Man, You're 475 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna have growing pains. You just gotta learn. Everyone has 476 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: what they go through. You just gotta learn. Right, did 477 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: you did you have a good idea that the Ravens 478 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: wanted you pretty badly? So I had like I think 479 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: two meetings with Drew, but um, if you know Drew, 480 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: he's like a real nonchalant, cool, sarcastic guy. So he 481 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: didn't give me like, yeah, we need your type type 482 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: of vib So it was more like this was conversation, 483 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, typical and asked me questions. But the crazy 484 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: part is, like I think two weeks or a week 485 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: before I got drafted, I got I did a radio 486 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: show with a bottom bottom or um you know, uh 487 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: radio show. Um, and they were telling me how you know, 488 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: they think I'm gonna come here, and I think I'm 489 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna come here. But I was trying to make a story. 490 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: But I didn't really know how I was coming here. 491 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: And the fact that you know it happened like this, 492 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: My sister lives here, and you know that's cool, Like 493 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: three hours away from Jersey, it had to be faced. 494 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: So so when you get to the NFL and early 495 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: on you make it, you make a media impact on 496 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: the team. Right, you have that huge, huge play against 497 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You almost got a sack in the first 498 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: almost got a sack, almost track. Wait, did you take 499 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: down Derek Car? Yeah? Right here? Yeah, so first Dans right, 500 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: tracked them down on the outside. I remember now, So 501 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: so you tracked down Derek Car in your first game, 502 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: which we all remember. And then and then you have 503 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: a huge play against the Chiefs. Um, do you feel vindicated? 504 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: Like in those moments you feel like you guys didn't 505 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: think I was gonna get any sacks. It's one game 506 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: when I'm here, Man, I don't ever want to have 507 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: Phil vindicated. I alous want to approved more. But you 508 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: know it was just such a way off my shoulder. 509 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: If you see me out to the play, I'm like, yes, 510 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: leave me alone, now, let me just play. Now, I'm 511 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: just trying to take it to more levels and try 512 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: to you know, you know, trying to be more dominant. 513 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: But you know it was definitely a weight off my shoulders. Definitely. Yeah. 514 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about justin Houston. You know, 515 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: you you've nicknamed them Yoda. Does that make you Luke Skywalker? 516 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: By the way you're trying to get that to stake. 517 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: How big of an impact has he had on you 518 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: in the early going here? Yeah? You know, like I said, 519 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, just as Yoda. You know, he just he knows. 520 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: He just got so much wisdom. And you see it 521 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: with the way he handles himself, in the way he 522 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: works out to practice, the way he just takes on 523 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: like blocks, you know, how he passed rushes. It's just 524 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: like he's calm and he just sees it and the 525 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: way he like just moves and just like it's like 526 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: he I don't I don't like. It's like it's a force. 527 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: Like he knows what's going on. Even plays he read 528 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: the way before you know it happens, you know, before 529 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, and on loads and stuff like that. So 530 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: he's just the way he's just been able to to 531 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: like teach me how to be a pro and how 532 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: to watch film and how to carry myself as a 533 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: man too. Like that's what I appreciate him as well. 534 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: It's not just football, it's outside of football too. It's 535 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: like I have someone that's done on the ring, that's 536 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: still doing it and I'm just learning, you know, just 537 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: picking his brain. I can said I can say that 538 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: for Chilais as well. You know, I just have so 539 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: much you know, knowledge and and just experience around me. 540 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: And I'm just so grateful. Now you're you're in the 541 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year chatter right now with a 542 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: former teammate Michael Parsons. I know you two are pretty 543 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: competitive with each other and workouts and all that stuff 544 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: in college. What's it like right now? You guys text 545 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: back and forth. Yeah, like we always text. I told him, 546 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: it's it's always been me and you. We've always been 547 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: It's always been pushed him, He pushes me. You know 548 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: where where our biggest competitions besides ourselves? And you know 549 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: I told him that yours. I'm gonna try to get 550 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: it every every week, every week. But you know, I 551 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 1: still love you, bro, but you compete in man, it's 552 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: for money. Now. We gotta get this. I mean, you 553 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: have a realistic shot. I mean, you know, and it's 554 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: no shade on anybody else on the team, but I 555 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: mean in terms of the most impactful defensive player this year, 556 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean impact plays like you might be that on 557 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: the defense this year. I mean, what's that early success 558 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: do for you in terms of, you know, giving you 559 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: that confidence at the start of your career and being 560 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: able to build on that. It just it just gives 561 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: me more of a try to go because I just 562 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: know that I'm not even at the scratching the surface 563 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: of where i can be at. Man, I'm just I'm 564 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: still like I'm five years into the sport, and I'm 565 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: just I'm still learning every day. I'm just still picking brains. 566 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm still even trying to watch film at a better 567 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: level of higher level, and you know, everything's details on 568 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: this level, on the NFL level, everyone is just so 569 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: gifted that you know, if if you can have a 570 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: little jump on on somebody, you know, it makes a 571 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: big difference. So I just I just so I'm so 572 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: grateful for where I'm at right now. I just I 573 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: just want to continue to get better. This is the 574 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: last one for me, because we know you gotta get 575 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: out to practice. You you always say that you kind 576 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: of feel like you're just scratching the surface tip of 577 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: the iceberg. What does that look like like when you 578 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: can when you look at your career the rest of 579 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: the season and years beyond, Like, what does that success 580 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: look like to you? Um, you know, I'm just like 581 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: I said, I'm just trying to be Like I'm trying 582 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: to be the dude. I'm trying to be the guy 583 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: that you know comes after a guy like a Sugs, 584 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: a guy like a you know, all the big Time 585 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: ninety nine that we've had here. You know, I'm just 586 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: trying to leave a legacy and try to Like when 587 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: I got draft, I told you guys that you know, 588 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything in my power to make sure 589 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: this pick is it's one of those ones that you 590 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: talk about, And I'm really just trying to work. I'm 591 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: a workhorse. I just always want to get better. I'm 592 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: always I'm so competitive with myself that you guys don't understand. 593 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: So I think I understand a little bit. Just I'm 594 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, just trying to be everything 595 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: that could be. So you know, if my potential is 596 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: being you know, one of those golden jacket guys. That's 597 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: what it is. But best best believe I'm gonna work towards. 598 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Sunday is right around the corner. Draft your lineups now 599 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: to feel the sweat with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy 600 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: sports partner of the Baltimore Raven's. Life is more fun 601 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: when you have skin in the game. Download the Draft 602 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: Kings app to check out all the action and daily contests. 603 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: New users enter code flock when signing up to get 604 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: a special offer that's code flock and get a special 605 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: sign up bonus eligibility restriction supplies. See DraftKings dot com 606 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: for details. Cool. I tell you, man, every time we 607 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: talked to him, I just like the kid more. Yeah, 608 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: I come away more impressed every single time. Yeah, I 609 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: felt that way, Like even going back to draft night, 610 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Like I just felt like he had a serious demeanor. 611 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: And then when he was here the next day, I 612 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: liked him. And then when he's here, you know, like 613 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: just every single time, you're like you learned a little 614 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: bit more. It was awesome here and some of his story, 615 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: and I just feel like he's got a great head 616 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: on his shoulders. He's immensely talented. Criticism is off the charts. 617 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Of course, we all know that. But I just feel 618 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: like he's got the mental side to pair with that athleticism, 619 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: and that's a rare combination. I should ask him about 620 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: Drew Wilkins popping his hammy at the end of that 621 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: Detroit You should have meant to ask him about that. 622 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: That's a bummer, um, because that's gonna be a good 623 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: feeling as a player. You know, you see your coach 624 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: get get kind of injured, put on the everyone's laying 625 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: at all out there on the field. Um. Anyway, great dude, 626 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: And I'm excited to see what he does over these 627 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: last ten regular season games because right now he leads 628 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens and sacks. We'll give him credit for the 629 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: one in Vegas and uh, and I expect that he 630 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: could finish that way, to be honest. I mean, justin Houston, 631 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: is getting some pressure. You get a lot of pressure 632 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: early in that Bengals game, and just didn't He was 633 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: like a hair away several times. Um, But I think 634 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: is going to finish the top of the pile. Yeah, 635 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: I think that he's Obviously he's not catching anybody by 636 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: sup eyes if he did at the start of the season. 637 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think that teams are going to be 638 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: game planning against him, which kind of that's that's the 639 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: give and take here for a rookie. You all of 640 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, you come out there and you play well, 641 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: and now teams start game planning against you. How do 642 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: you respond? And I think that's kind of the two 643 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: point oh version of what we're going to see from him. 644 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: But I completely agree with what you said to him, 645 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: which is that if you're just laying out the most 646 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: impactful player on defense, I think it's got to be him. 647 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: He's come up with the big plays and the biggest moments. 648 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: Force humble against the Colts. They're up seven early in 649 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: that game. He doesn't make that play, Yeah, a bigger hole. 650 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: Force fumble against the Colts, force fumble against the Chiefs. 651 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: He just comes and his pressure on the homes really 652 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: led to Tavon Young's interception against the Chiefs. I also 653 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: believe correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think 654 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: that he caused the pressure that led to the pick 655 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: in Vegas that Anthony Avert got uh in overtime or 656 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the fourth quarter, they're going back 657 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: a little. I know the Ravens. Yeah right, the Raves 658 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: obviously didn't win that game, but I'm just saying he 659 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: just seems to elevate his play at the biggest moments, 660 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: and that is something that you like. Like he you 661 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: want rookie players and young players to not be scared 662 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: at the moment. He is not scared of the moment. 663 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: He's a lion man the guys he's He's immensely talented. 664 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: So when Rashad Bateman's looked pretty darn good too. So 665 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: two Ravens first round picks, you know, early in their 666 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: careers looking like two hits, Yeah, I think that's I 667 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: think that's a great sign, a really good sign. So 668 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: um Vikings game this week, just want to get your 669 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: take on kind of what you expect. You get to 670 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: watch him a little bit, you know, it's always it 671 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: is always nice. You got the Sunday night game they 672 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: played Dallas, so you get a little taste of them, Uh, 673 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: to see what they've got. What do you think? I 674 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: mean Kirk Cousins, he can sling the ball around and 675 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: they got talented receivers. The Ravens had the thirty second 676 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: eight to pass defense, so it's gonna be a challenge 677 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: when they're going up against Justin Jefferson and Adam Feeling 678 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: and Cousins is slinging the ball around. Yeah, the best 679 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: running backs in the league, right, So yeah, I mean 680 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: this is a test for the Ravens defense, which has 681 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: not been particularly good. Uh, when you step back and 682 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: look at the big picture so far the season, obviously 683 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: dominant game against the l A Chargers and then really 684 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: kind of flopped against the Bengals. This is a game, 685 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: a big game from Marlin Humphrey. I think, you know, 686 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: Marlon had obviously a tough day against Jamar Chase to 687 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals, and now he's probably gonna get a healthy 688 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: dose to Justin Jefferson. I don't know if they'll give 689 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: him the same kind of assignment that they gave him 690 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: for Jamaar Chase, because I mean, it's not a one 691 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: man show, and since he either they have three good 692 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Maybe I don't know if they'll put Marlon 693 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: on shadowing Justin Jefferson because theeland is pretty good on 694 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: the other side too, so, but I think it's a 695 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: big game for him. You know, that one I think 696 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: hurt his pride a little bit, and you know he's 697 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: had uh. You know, he gave up a touchdown against 698 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders. You know, in in week one, gave up 699 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: a long win against the Chiefs. This is I think 700 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: a big game for him to kind of prove that 701 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: he's that elite guy that we all know he is 702 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: and can be when he's playing at the top of 703 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: his game. I it is a It is a really 704 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: important game. Um, and I agree that I think there's 705 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot on Marlin shoulders. I'm also curious 706 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: to see who the Ravens ultimately get back. Derek Wolford 707 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: turned to practice right before the bye heat. We haven't 708 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: seen him since the middle of training camp. Uh, there's 709 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: a chance of Tavias Morgan, Sammy Watkins get back on 710 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: the field this week. There's a chance of Nick Boyle 711 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: makes his debut, So you would be big. Yeah, you 712 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: could have Nick Boyle and Derek Wolf making their debuts 713 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: and then get some key players back on offense. It's 714 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: not a full strength offense, you know, in comparison to 715 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: what you thought it was gonna be then, but it's 716 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: closer to full strength. Yeah, it's a close to full 717 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: strength and you're gonna get right now. I think we 718 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: can reveal that we bumped in the J. K. Dobbins today. Yeah, 719 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: outside the locker room. But he's been, he's been, he's been. 720 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: Guess I guess that's the first time you've seen him. 721 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him. He's been around. I didn't know. 722 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen him. Yeah, Yeah, he's been here for 723 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: a while. He is. He had the peanut butter machine. 724 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him there by the way, they in 725 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: addition to the peanut butter machine. Oh, the orange juice, 726 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: orange juice. Oh, I hit it this morning. The orange 727 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: juice machine is back and it's it's one of those 728 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: oranges machines where they got like a basket of oranges, 729 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: a million oranges at the top, and then it runs 730 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: the oranges through the machine and gets fresh press orange juice. 731 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: It's it's incredible, the best oranges I've ever had. You know, 732 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: it doesn't get fresh. Draft could be like a cafe 733 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: Stacks cafeteria draft. It might not be bad. One other side, 734 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: Tangent here, as we're talking about drafts. One year, I 735 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: believe we did the Halloween candy draft. I think I 736 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: believe that's correct. I need to clown you because your 737 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Halloween candy stash that you were providing two kids was terrible. 738 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: It was terrible for listeners out there. Make had a 739 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: bag of dump dumps, and that's what it's not, and 740 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: it was what I had it at the last minute 741 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: when I was worried about my stash. He tried to 742 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: have enough justify the candy that he was giving to 743 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: these kids and said, I had great candy. I had 744 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 1: a bag of three hundred dump dumps and also had 745 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: the fun size, but I had the miniature size that's 746 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: one step below fun size of the chocolates, with the 747 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: Snickers and the kick cats and all that. That was 748 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: pretty sure you were you were defending the dumb dumb 749 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: dumb dumbs are great. They're not great. They are they're 750 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: not great. You get you get a haircut. What's the 751 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: first thing you want after exactly? You want a dumb dump? 752 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, like, look, there's not a great 753 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: snack or a great candy. If they handed out a 754 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: barbershops and dry fighters and oil change spots, why not 755 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: because that's just like the cheapest cheap doesn't mean it's bad. 756 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: You are too high falute in Mr Nappa. You know, 757 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: here's here's the thing we were to rattle off. I 758 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: think even when we did the candy draft, we didn't 759 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: even put dumb dumbs on the list because we knew 760 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: it was so terrible. We knew they sucked. If you 761 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: don't like dumb dumbs, you're a dumb dumbs. Go ahead 762 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: on the email us at the lounge at Ravens dot 763 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: NFL dot net. Let us know what you think of 764 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: make cannon out some dumb dumps two kids from Halloween 765 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: as the only thing that those kids got. That's not 766 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Um. So, all right, 767 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: we talked peanut butter, we talked to orange juice, We 768 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: talked dumb dumbs. Is there anything else that we want 769 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: to get off our chest before the Raveins get on 770 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: the field this week. I'm excited to see this offense. 771 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: I do think we talked about Nick Boyle come back 772 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: on the field. I think the Ravens obviously have to 773 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: run the ball better with their running backs over the 774 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: final ten games of the regular season. Here, let's just 775 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: stop saying that over the rest of the season, because 776 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: playoffs come on. Yeah, yeah, over the rest of the way. 777 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: They have to run the ball better. And I do 778 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: think that the return of Nick Boyle can really make 779 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: a difference in that. Now we have to see how 780 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: healthy he is. You know, we have Nick Boile coming 781 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: off that knee injury, with the setbacks or or what 782 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna have to shake off some rust. 783 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: I imagine there is some there. But South guys playing 784 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: wide receiver out there, right, I mean, he's a he's 785 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: a blocker and and so I think that he can 786 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: make a difference kind of spearhead and that attack he 787 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: and Recard that combination is pretty nasty. Um. I don't 788 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: think like the Ravens are suddenly going to be the 789 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: best running game running team in the league. You know, 790 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: but unless J. K. Dobbins get out there hopple it up. 791 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: You saw but it uh. But I think they can 792 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: be a lot better than they have been. So I 793 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: think that's a big development. And as this offensive line 794 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: gets healthier, once patrim Carey gets back, they get into it, 795 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: hopefully they can get into a little bit of a 796 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: groove they can stay healthy, that will make a difference 797 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: as well. So I'm excited to see this offense, you know, 798 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: get Sammy back. I'm excited to see it take them 799 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: next step. You know how excited I am to get 800 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: all three of those wide receivers on the field together, Sammy, 801 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: Bateman and Hollywood. So I'm excited for where the Ravens 802 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: sit right now. There's a big game against the Vikings, 803 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: the first time playing them at MT Bank Stadium since 804 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: the Snow Game, one of the all time great games 805 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: at mty Bank Stadium. Yes, so hopefully we don't have that. 806 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: The The other thing that I'm curious to see is 807 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: if there's any sort of new wrinkles coming out of 808 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: the by because this was like the self scouting process 809 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: we talked with kem Q sick. You know how excited 810 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: I was about the idea do Renee in the backfield? 811 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: Does that happen um or anything like that? Is there 812 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: any other wrinkles that they that Greg Roman and Wink 813 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: Martindale roll out to try to help both of their units. 814 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: So I think that that's I'll be keep keeping an 815 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: eye on that if we If do Renee lines up 816 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: in the backfield as a running back, we're say than 817 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: kenn of bout all one, you're buying it. We're setting 818 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: setting some dumb You're not a dumb dumb anyway. Buckle 819 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: up because it's purple versus purple and you better be 820 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: ready for a win.