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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a huge Dungeon Family fan, huge Outcast fan.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite group, Beer's Outcast, Go Goody Mob obviously legendary,
Speaker 1: so I was super excited to have the opportunity to
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Speaker 1: get into this man. Listen, Goodie Mob legendary hip hop group.
Speaker 1: They haven't put an album out all together since twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: and that album in twenty thirteen was not a good one.
Speaker 1: So they're back with organized noise behind the production, which
Speaker 1: is the most exciting part of this for me. And
Speaker 1: be able to talk to all four members at the
Speaker 1: same time was dope. So let's get into this Goodie
Speaker 1: Mob interview. It was recorded before the album came out.
Speaker 1: The album's actually out right now, so go support that
Speaker 1: and let's go man, brand new interview Boutleg Cab Podcast,
Speaker 1: Episode number twenty seven. I think it's up with Goodie
Speaker 1: Mob right here? Turn this up? All right? Well, look man,
Speaker 1: Blueleg Cab Podcast Real ninety two to three. Honored to
Speaker 1: have all of the members of Goodie Mob on the podcast. Now,
Speaker 1: I gotta give y'all some context on what first you know.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty three, So the first record I ever heard
Speaker 1: of y'all's that made me just dive in was obviously
Speaker 1: still standing. What was that night? Was that ninety eight
Speaker 1: ninety seven You're right about my best friend Rams has
Speaker 1: played me they don't dance, No Mo and ce Lo
Speaker 1: your last verse on that record, my name is Look listen, man,
Speaker 1: I heard your voice and your flow is so it
Speaker 1: blew my whole fucking head off as a kid. Bro.
Speaker 1: And and you know, from there, I had to go
Speaker 1: back and tap in with the first album. But that
Speaker 1: was my first taste of getting introduced to you guys.
Speaker 1: So ninety eight ninety seven, I was like ten or
Speaker 1: eleven years old. So, man, I've been a fan for
Speaker 1: a very long time. And that's dope, man, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: dope to see all y'all back together, man, you know,
Speaker 1: and especially with the right production with Organized Noise, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, this is what I know.
Speaker 1: You guys have been hearing all the fans harping at
Speaker 1: you for so long to do this specific project, gounting
Speaker 1: man back together with Organized Noise. Why was the timing
Speaker 1: right in twenty twenty because of that fact right there?
Speaker 1: It was it was resounding overwhelming, you know, insistent, consistent.
Speaker 1: People always say they want the old thing back. Man,
Speaker 1: we've man, take us back to the beginning, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, take us back to where it all started.
Speaker 1: And then something you know, you know, in your travels,
Speaker 1: you know, you get so far away from home, man like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you you forget to look back.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you feel me love, and
Speaker 1: sometimes people people forget how to go back. I mean,
Speaker 1: like other times people ain't even welcome to come back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know that was
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case with what none of us, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you know, fortunately, man like,
Speaker 1: you know, home is always what heart is, man like,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, to come back to organize,
Speaker 1: know as to have the original you know, first generation
Speaker 1: that your family may the ones who you know who
Speaker 1: who who built the pillars, better built and built the foundation,
Speaker 1: man like, it's uh, it's incomfortable, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like and then also to have being and dre man like,
Speaker 1: that's the original, well it fool and that's the original nine,
Speaker 1: the magnificent nine. Man, you know right there, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's crazy Man, what can I say? Man,
Speaker 1: We're proud and exciting for people to get what we've got.
Speaker 1: How long was the clue? How long? Like I guess,
Speaker 1: when did the conception of this album start? How long
Speaker 1: have you guys been working on this project? And I
Speaker 1: know all of you guys are aware of how important
Speaker 1: this is to Dungeon family fans, outcast fans, Goodie mob fans,
Speaker 1: fans are real hip hop. So I'm sure you guys
Speaker 1: took the time. When did y'all start first working on
Speaker 1: this project? To be freal with you, we did this
Speaker 1: project in the last five months. Okay, so this was
Speaker 1: under quarantine. Yeah, this was under quarantine. Oh shit, Okay,
Speaker 1: everything on this album is brand new. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess that makes sense. You know a lot of the
Speaker 1: content that I heard, and then obviously the name of
Speaker 1: the album, that would that makes sense? Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: that does. Just lets you know, we once this quarantine hit,
Speaker 1: we made a decision that we was gonna come together.
Speaker 1: We got we got in a secret location on the
Speaker 1: south side of Atlanta and once the Beat Star flowing,
Speaker 1: the first record we recorded it was Survival Kit, the
Speaker 1: one survival kit to the Avalanche. The Avalanche Ca. It
Speaker 1: was just like we just kept going, We kept going.
Speaker 1: So it is again November. There's a long time coming.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a long time coming. Like you said,
Speaker 1: uh ce Lo the original nine on the project. You know,
Speaker 1: we've we've we've noticed how hard it is to get
Speaker 1: an Andre versus fans over over x amount of years.
Speaker 1: You know. We sometimes will get one a year and
Speaker 1: just be super excited. It might pop up on a
Speaker 1: Jeez album or a remix or something. It's only right
Speaker 1: that he's on the new Goodie Mob album. But how how,
Speaker 1: how how the Andre verse come to be? And like
Speaker 1: was it was it difficult? I know it's not difficult
Speaker 1: because you'll have a family, but like you know, that's
Speaker 1: an important verse to have on a Goodie Mob album
Speaker 1: with organized noise behind the production. Man, we won't even
Speaker 1: speak about the difficulties or whatnot. I mean, like you know,
Speaker 1: we were just only speak about the end result. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you know, and the end result is the camaraderie,
Speaker 1: the connection, you know, the respect, the dignity, the love,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you know, the blood.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you know that we it's a it's
Speaker 1: a family thing. You know what I mean, like, and
Speaker 1: you know, we we embrace each other's in differences. Man,
Speaker 1: That's that's part of what made us very special. Man,
Speaker 1: Like you know, everybody's unique in their own right and
Speaker 1: reserves the right you mean, like to be that you
Speaker 1: mean like and voice that you mean like and so
Speaker 1: like dreams one of those highly interitable people. Mean it's
Speaker 1: an artist artist, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: also like to consider myself as such. But like since
Speaker 1: you know, since we speaking of him, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, you know, we've grown to grown to
Speaker 1: just embrace the fact that man like something that he's
Speaker 1: truly not into, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: know he into it, and I've seen dog like just
Speaker 1: just like you know, just for fun, I just tell you, man,
Speaker 1: we see more turned down multi millions of dollars. Everybody
Speaker 1: know that, you know what I'm saying. Like, we get
Speaker 1: also abody to laugh at that because it's like yo,
Speaker 1: like you know, and that way the ball was set.
Speaker 1: So anything that he decaid that he don't listen to
Speaker 1: want to do, who got no passion for it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, nobody couldn't really argue with
Speaker 1: that because we don't see him turned out no. I
Speaker 1: was so excited. You know, it's crazy because as a fan,
Speaker 1: I was afraid that I was going to die without
Speaker 1: ever seeing Outcasts perform in my life. And then a
Speaker 1: few years ago they did that festival run and I
Speaker 1: got to see them in Tampa and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's off the bucket list, you know, But
Speaker 1: I feel like there's been so much energy that's led
Speaker 1: up to your guys' moment here. I want to also
Speaker 1: shut out. I feel like casts coming together for that
Speaker 1: festival run, and then the importance of the documentary that
Speaker 1: came out about Organized Noise. I think that also brought
Speaker 1: a lot of awareness to just that whole wave of
Speaker 1: of what you guys brought to the game. And then
Speaker 1: now we're here and we have a new album, Survival Kit.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the early Dungeon Family days.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of people who a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know or associate with Dungeon Family, and I want
Speaker 1: to kind of get your guys with some contexts and
Speaker 1: some takes on being around because I heard Usher was
Speaker 1: a part of the Dungeon Family at least around y'all
Speaker 1: super early, and the same thing with Future. Obviously Future
Speaker 1: just got a tattooed on his arm. But but can
Speaker 1: you guys kind of talk about like like being around them,
Speaker 1: like Usher obviously was a kid from what I I
Speaker 1: think I talked the big boy about it. But you know,
Speaker 1: just the important historical context of what's come from your
Speaker 1: guys's tree. We could throw Usher in that, we could
Speaker 1: throw Future in that. What was it like being around
Speaker 1: those guys before we all obviously you know, knew who
Speaker 1: they were. Who got it was family, man, You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It wasn't really nothing exciting about being
Speaker 1: abound none of who was excited because we loved each other,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Nobody had really accomplished nothing
Speaker 1: great in that particular time, So you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: The magic was just just being around people that you love,
Speaker 1: people that support you, and people that support you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And they were younger than us, little brothers.
Speaker 1: They used to watch us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They used to come to the studio. I can remember
Speaker 1: seeing you know, we used to call Future meet here
Speaker 1: back in the day. I can remember the first time
Speaker 1: he came to the studio. You know, Rico was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my little cousin. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I met he was real cool, real real quiet guy,
Speaker 1: you know, soft spoken, one with a loud He liked
Speaker 1: to learn, He liked to sit around and really peep
Speaker 1: out of everything, and everything was working. And I can
Speaker 1: remember popping in back in the day, like the Dungeon
Speaker 1: was was always just an open door policy for all
Speaker 1: of us. So I mean, you can go to the Dungeon.
Speaker 1: Man at three in the morning, you know what I'm saying. Oh,
Speaker 1: third in the morning. You know what I'm saying, somebody
Speaker 1: gonna be up. You know what I'm saying. And it's
Speaker 1: gonna be somebody kicking with talking to kicking for a
Speaker 1: few minutes. And if you want to go home, you
Speaker 1: can do that. You want to stay, you can stay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I can remember coming in
Speaker 1: and seeing Future just working in the studio. Just I'm like,
Speaker 1: who is that? So like, man, that's me. Damn. You know,
Speaker 1: he well working, you know, he putting it in. You know.
Speaker 1: I could really just see his energy and his passion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it showed and it's still showing you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he wonder he wanted the best in the
Speaker 1: game right now. You know what I'm saying, period, hands down.
Speaker 1: Can't nobody argue with that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's lovely to know, you know, we saw him grow,
Speaker 1: and the good thing about it when we team this
Speaker 1: day is still the love and respect there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you know, he a real gentleman,
Speaker 1: a real guy, you know, real Dunblon family member. And
Speaker 1: then you know what I'm saying, that's how we rolled.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, Usher, I don't remember seeing him around there,
Speaker 1: but I do remember seeing he wrote something on that
Speaker 1: hot water hitter. He wrote Usher was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out who was Usher? What was that? You know? I
Speaker 1: never knew what that meant that I remember meeting him.
Speaker 1: He was a little kid. Yeah, yeah, he was a
Speaker 1: little He was a child, just like oh yeah, who
Speaker 1: else came out from the under that you didn't know
Speaker 1: about it? You ain't say nothing about that's mister Barbara Valentino. Okay.
Speaker 1: They used to come over there all the time. Remember
Speaker 1: they were little kids, you know what I mean, coming
Speaker 1: over there. You know what I'm saying, sucking up game,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, getting tracks, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, learning, learning the ropes, learning how to move,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And Bobbit held on to it.
Speaker 1: You know, I was closer to him because I knew
Speaker 1: me and Koujoe and Gilt graduated from high school with
Speaker 1: his older sister. So that's family. That's little Marcella to
Speaker 1: the end, you know what I mean. So you know,
Speaker 1: we all family, we all brothers, we all love each other,
Speaker 1: we all support each other. Man. That's just how it
Speaker 1: is right here around the Dungeon family. Man, I did. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing to see it. Man, it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. What was for you guys, Like when obviously
Speaker 1: you say you got any of this ad? All right,
Speaker 1: we got to make an album having organized noise handle
Speaker 1: the production? Was that, like I'm assuming there was just
Speaker 1: a mutual understanding that like, if we're gonna do this,
Speaker 1: there's only one way we'll do it, and that's the
Speaker 1: of them be behind the boards. Is that is? That was?
Speaker 1: It was that that would have to be the easiest
Speaker 1: decision I'm assuming with this project. Yeah at the time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Joe. I mean, you can say something to
Speaker 1: it just felt good. Not they had the big motherfuckers
Speaker 1: for beats or big motherfuckers for tracks. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I have to worry about, man, how much
Speaker 1: I charge for a track? Sit just one hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: Oh damn for real. So they felt good, Man, to
Speaker 1: just go back in the ring, man with somebody we
Speaker 1: were familiar with, Man, go ahead, yep, familiar with is
Speaker 1: all the way. I think that that that brought the
Speaker 1: comfort down for everybody. It really gave everybody in this
Speaker 1: group a real chance to sit back and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? What am I gonna bring
Speaker 1: to this project. At the same time, you and they
Speaker 1: were doing the same thing amongst them, you know, sleepy
Speaker 1: and rat you know what I mean, like and like
Speaker 1: even doing the app like on some song. Bro, we
Speaker 1: got up to nine weeks on just one record, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's how that's how diligent
Speaker 1: they was going. That's how they was working on a
Speaker 1: night and day, you know what I mean. So we
Speaker 1: get this beautiful project. At the end, it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I can't we can't wait till Friday. The thirteenth, so
Speaker 1: people get hit the survival kick because we know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be just like the rest of them. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a classic twenty five years from now. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys have have classic in your I mean listen, man,
Speaker 1: I listened to Soul Food still like it just came
Speaker 1: out often. You know, you know it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: timeless body of work, still standing, timeless body work. I'm curious, Celo,
Speaker 1: I know that your solo success has been and shout
Speaker 1: out to Get too. By the way, get the ship.
Speaker 1: You drop a due for Gluta texts. Was my ship
Speaker 1: Ali right? And get Yeah, yep, yep. But sel I
Speaker 1: want to touch I know your solo success or ship
Speaker 1: would obviously your solo your first solo project was crazy,
Speaker 1: then n Als Barkley came out, was crazy, and you
Speaker 1: were a superstar in your own right. How how like
Speaker 1: is it dope to be able to introduce fans of
Speaker 1: yours that might not be Goodie Mob fans to Goodie
Speaker 1: Mob twenty five years later, Because there are fans of
Speaker 1: yours that might not They might be just surface level
Speaker 1: Selo fans, Then I might not like dig into the
Speaker 1: fact that you came from Goodie Mob. How dope is
Speaker 1: that to bring a bunch of new fans to the party.
Speaker 1: Because my mom is a is a se Loo fan.
Speaker 1: She don't know what the fuck Goodie Mob is, but
Speaker 1: she knows who you are. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: right right? You know, I don't mind surface level Selo
Speaker 1: Green fans, but I do mind superficial Selo Green fans.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And that's a difference, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like the ones that are truly
Speaker 1: aware of me, they are aware the root of you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like in the forge, the way
Speaker 1: it comes from. You know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: know why you know, why not why not followed me back?
Speaker 1: Why why not trace me back to the beginning what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you feel me? So you know it's
Speaker 1: not it's not a conflict of interest, not not not
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I'm saying, like or anyone
Speaker 1: for that matter. You know what I'm saying, like you know,
Speaker 1: like it's only weight to leverage with you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like you know, and weight weight distribution. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you know I believe that personally,
Speaker 1: I believe that you know, any any win you know
Speaker 1: on this side of it, I mean, like it's a
Speaker 1: win for everyone. So you know, I believe that Nol's
Speaker 1: Barcoley see little Green, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: and any success associated with it, you know, extends itself
Speaker 1: from Dungeon family. So it's essentially and ultimately a Dungeon
Speaker 1: family win. No different than when outcas it, like when
Speaker 1: speak about flood be logo to to it's rather amal year.
Speaker 1: How we got album of the Year. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's that's how I look at it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And and that that that's it.
Speaker 1: That's me trying to really keep that simple, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But like, but no, man, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's all relative and it's derivative of where something started
Speaker 1: from a starting point, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you know, having the support system, having the success ratio
Speaker 1: I mean, like, and the strength of the mob and
Speaker 1: of the Dungeon family you know behind me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like is what propelled me to those heights.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, even if
Speaker 1: it was used as a barama of something I wanted
Speaker 1: to do better or do more of, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but all in an effort to represent you know,
Speaker 1: not only my family saying like you know, but our city.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, like to the best of my
Speaker 1: natural ability. You know what I mean, And so what
Speaker 1: you hear is just the humility that that come along
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, like, so like I wasn't I
Speaker 1: ain't never really tripping and say you feel me, like
Speaker 1: because my feet my feet in the dirt. Man, I
Speaker 1: could the dirt. I'm just a I ain't an trip
Speaker 1: off starter man. Like you know, I'm a tall tree,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like or a tall and
Speaker 1: even taller antilla. So I'm up there. Why pick up?
Speaker 1: I pick up a signal, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: and I get the message and I transmit and transcend
Speaker 1: and that's it. Hey, When I was coming up, man,
Speaker 1: I remember as because I'm a I'm a diehard Outcast fan,
Speaker 1: diehard Dungeon family fan. When when you guys all came
Speaker 1: together for even in darkness, right, I thought that was
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm even like I remember cool or Cool
Speaker 1: Breeze is East boys finest album that watched for the
Speaker 1: hook was my ship. I'm a huge Dungeon Family fan,
Speaker 1: so when everybody got together and made even in Darkness,
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Can you guys give me some like
Speaker 1: a story or two about the making of the actual
Speaker 1: Dungeon Family album, because I think that that album is
Speaker 1: very slept on and doesn't get enough I don't hear
Speaker 1: enough conversation of praise about how dope that project was.
Speaker 1: That's a good example. And using Cool Breeze Eastports Gradies hit,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's song watched with a hook man like
Speaker 1: you know, that's when you know his project was launched
Speaker 1: off the back of Organized Noise, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: uh opening up the doors, you know, cutting the ribbon
Speaker 1: on their new label, Organized Lowse Records. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you know, uh Organized Noise, uh via Interscope,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that was that was
Speaker 1: a big look, you know what I mean. And so
Speaker 1: we all came together, you know, like with the camaraderie,
Speaker 1: with the teamwork to make that dream work. You mean,
Speaker 1: like for the homie, you know what I mean. No
Speaker 1: difference than he showed up for us when he coined
Speaker 1: the phrase dirty South what I mean like and linded
Speaker 1: that them saying you feel me to uh to to
Speaker 1: Goodie Mob's debut album, So like you, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you know the love is reciprocated, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you feel me always acknowledge it where it's due,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, like you
Speaker 1: want no egos and that and none of that kind
Speaker 1: of shit. I mean, like the it was a homie
Speaker 1: turn we we we we you know, we teamed up,
Speaker 1: you know it that sit up on the field with it,
Speaker 1: That's what it was about. Yeah, But with the with
Speaker 1: the even in Darkness album, what was that? Like, that's
Speaker 1: that's a hard thing to pull everybody together, especially at
Speaker 1: that point of everyone's careers because you guys are all
Speaker 1: at that point in time, cast is fucking out of
Speaker 1: here and then you got out of here and to
Speaker 1: bring everyone together? What what? What? What was I'm assuming
Speaker 1: that was it organized noise? It kind of quarterback the
Speaker 1: greater process for that project? Like or what was it?
Speaker 1: What was making that album? Like it was organized? No
Speaker 1: because I mean we was both on tour, likes was
Speaker 1: doing Smoking Gruves tour. I think Goodie Marble was out
Speaker 1: with Uh. I think we just came off Fishbone in
Speaker 1: Daylight Soul to oh Ship. So so it was it
Speaker 1: was it was a real crazy time. So we was
Speaker 1: doing the records in and out, coming in and out
Speaker 1: of town, you know, like, so we didn't really get
Speaker 1: to start to even do that do that album. We
Speaker 1: didn't get the tour a lot because just our schedules. Man,
Speaker 1: it was just we were just doing so much at
Speaker 1: that time. I can imagine with this project, what uh
Speaker 1: what what was the with the word survival kid? I mean,
Speaker 1: like when I see that and labels don't support big
Speaker 1: albums like that, Bro, why that stuff only happened every
Speaker 1: so often? Not because they don't want to see something great,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you know, but because logistically,
Speaker 1: projects like that are expensive to do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's a lot of working parts, you know,
Speaker 1: especially if everyone's on different labels, different labels and different
Speaker 1: tax brackets and pay grades. That Yeah, it takes a
Speaker 1: lot of humility from everyone involved, right Yeah. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: like you said, there might be somebody who be like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I do it, but I need more than this person.
Speaker 1: And it's like now we're not doing it for that.
Speaker 1: We're doing it because about having more than that person.
Speaker 1: It's about I need what I deserve, right, because you're
Speaker 1: gonna turn to write back around and promote this to
Speaker 1: my audience, some said, the audience that I've earned and
Speaker 1: work for. So if you gonna send it back to them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, and you know, at
Speaker 1: least give me yah, damn you know what I need. Shit,
Speaker 1: I'm curious, was there ever a record or any sort
Speaker 1: of moment creatively that you guys as a group regret
Speaker 1: looking back on on on your guys' career. I got
Speaker 1: some I got. I'm gonna I'm gonna speak on this
Speaker 1: shop since since I had, damn there everything to do
Speaker 1: with it. You know, even though now we we come
Speaker 1: in together and we talk about now, we laugh about
Speaker 1: it now, But like I gotta say, another age of
Speaker 1: Get Machine album, you know, it's some regretful parts on
Speaker 1: there for me, man, because I think the ambition was
Speaker 1: blind and man like, you know, we was in another
Speaker 1: spectrum and spear man like, you know, an atmosphere around
Speaker 1: that time and trying to correlate you know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like core audience with commercial uppeal, you know, and so
Speaker 1: on and so forth, and just trying to try to
Speaker 1: pull it off. And that's that's me, man, Like you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I think it was some
Speaker 1: some different kind of malfunctions. And they're like songs like
Speaker 1: Amy and My Very First White Girl, and you know,
Speaker 1: people people like, oh my god, what it's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny because I felt that as a fan, was
Speaker 1: gonna say. I know that. That's why I'm being honest
Speaker 1: with you. I'm being transparent because we've got to people.
Speaker 1: That's a real conversation that we had. But you know what,
Speaker 1: you guys have tried this before in twenty thirteen. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Check it out. So it's like Bill and Mom always
Speaker 1: been controversial, you know and dangerous something like you know,
Speaker 1: like the South's most dangerous group is I like to,
Speaker 1: you know, look at it. So with that, I felt
Speaker 1: like it lent itself to you know, a larger conversation.
Speaker 1: But it was supposed to be shock value, controversy, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, but instead of that, it just
Speaker 1: ended up just being a connect I mean, like and disappointment,
Speaker 1: like you know, because you know we might even have
Speaker 1: to we might didn't have to reach that far. Sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes you want to reach to to uh you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like to to graph you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: what you feel like is what you feel is when
Speaker 1: you're in your reach. But sometimes you stretch yourself to thin,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I will say that
Speaker 1: I can be honest in saying that in retrospect. But
Speaker 1: then there were some moments I think people also maybe
Speaker 1: listen back to that project now, especially especially after we
Speaker 1: nail it with this project. I think people are uh
Speaker 1: listen back to that and be like, Okay, I can
Speaker 1: appreciate it more and and see it in a different
Speaker 1: light for what they were trying to do in that
Speaker 1: time period. What I'm saying, you feel me, but like
Speaker 1: the missing link of that album was the cohesive uh
Speaker 1: sonic uh you know SOUNDBD you know, and just and
Speaker 1: just the energy you know, and the affection of organized noise.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. If you if you do something back
Speaker 1: befault and everybody not not you know, you can't have
Speaker 1: you can't expect me might have to halfway support you, man, Like,
Speaker 1: don't never ask nobody to stratle fit for you man,
Speaker 1: like never no neutrals with us may either paup or drive.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, I think it's safe
Speaker 1: to say, like, the people who are screaming they want
Speaker 1: a Goodiemole album in twenty twenty are the people who
Speaker 1: want y'all to work with organized boys. They're the people
Speaker 1: who like, they're like, yo, you know, I think that
Speaker 1: there's something to be said about I just listened to
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys heard the new Bust
Speaker 1: of Rhymes album. Yeah, yeah, great album, right, But I
Speaker 1: heard his album and I was like, yo, but Buster
Speaker 1: did not like Busted. He took his time on the album.
Speaker 1: But what he did was he made an album that
Speaker 1: he knew his core diehard fans would appreciate in twenty twenty, right,
Speaker 1: And I feel like when I when this and that
Speaker 1: album got announced, I was just so excited. Man. I
Speaker 1: was excited because if it would have been announced without
Speaker 1: organized nos, I would have checked it out. But I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, sonically, this is gonna be something cohesaid,
Speaker 1: this is gonna bring back you know, this is and
Speaker 1: and and and maybe the gift in the Curse of
Speaker 1: the pandemic. You know, we're getting a lot of great
Speaker 1: music out of this pandemic. Hey, yo, gift Joe Mo.
Speaker 1: Did I say anything wrong about that? Oh? No, that
Speaker 1: was man. I mean I loved I loved the Age
Speaker 1: Gainst Machine. I mean, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: mean a few song choices. Like you said, I mean,
Speaker 1: we could have we could have did something else, but
Speaker 1: for me, it was two songs for me that I wish, Like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish I had a guy, and it was Dirty
Speaker 1: South and Black Ice, right, And we tried to do
Speaker 1: remixes for him, but they was not the same, right
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying, Like, like we tried to
Speaker 1: do the remix with with Mystical with uh it was
Speaker 1: the Dirty South remix with and then we did I
Speaker 1: forgot who produced the Black Ice remix. I think DJ
Speaker 1: was still the same, wasn't it. Yeah? Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but yeah, those are the two songs that I like,
Speaker 1: Damn mother said to get on them songs right now.
Speaker 1: You know, black Eyes obviously is a record that like
Speaker 1: you know, this is like that shit just needs to
Speaker 1: just be left alone, you know what I'm saying. Oh,
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Speaker 1: you guys also went through this weird era of your
Speaker 1: career where the one Monkey Don't Stop the Show album
Speaker 1: came out. Obviously that was the album that Celo was
Speaker 1: not part of. How hard was it for you guys
Speaker 1: to get through some of the bumps in your guys's relationships.
Speaker 1: You know that that that that you know may or
Speaker 1: may not have been public the how I think, like,
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, you guys,
Speaker 1: we're here in twenty twenty. You guys did an album
Speaker 1: after that, but like that specific just era of your guys'
Speaker 1: relationship in the group. And at that point in time,
Speaker 1: I think, Celo, you're on your second solo album by then.
Speaker 1: I think, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, So what
Speaker 1: what was that era like? Because at that time, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, bro and look good the Sino Greens
Speaker 1: perfect imperfection. That's my ship's point. When you dropped that
Speaker 1: ship and oh too, I was like, this ship did
Speaker 1: not just this is what I wanted from a Sino
Speaker 1: while it was man, I appreciate that, but you want
Speaker 1: to take that with Joe Gift. Come on, man, somebody
Speaker 1: speak that. Yeah, yeah shit, I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: all of us, all of us grew up together, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it wasn't nothing malicious to with,
Speaker 1: like shit, when I see that nigga, it's on on
Speaker 1: site type ship, So it ain't it was. It wasn't
Speaker 1: never like that, you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 1: was just us being finding another way to communicate, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with our fans, even though you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We had we had all little
Speaker 1: brother with us, you know what I mean. But it
Speaker 1: was much since I remember seeing Selo. I didn't got
Speaker 1: THEMN Denmark. One day, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: was in a festival somewhere. We were just I was
Speaker 1: walking around, man, and I forgot what year was that
Speaker 1: though you rememb when you're the one that was that
Speaker 1: was that was that's like hold on, that's that's like
Speaker 1: six that and when that one one album come out?
Speaker 1: When that come out right, oh four oh foe. So
Speaker 1: we were still working and everything. Man. I just happened
Speaker 1: to see Selo out and gotten there a whole nother
Speaker 1: country man and Denmark man. We was just like like,
Speaker 1: damn man, what's up? A little bro like man? See
Speaker 1: your man? Man? It was instant love man. So I
Speaker 1: still remember what you had on your white dicky short
Speaker 1: set was with a green shirt up front. It what
Speaker 1: you were that one white who knows what you'all were
Speaker 1: wearing because there was a mind frame staatele Get was
Speaker 1: wearing some wild ship and see what he was wearing
Speaker 1: wild ship? I mean it was I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: where that came from. I could probably answer that to
Speaker 1: you because you started a lot of this ship. Man.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that was my next question, how
Speaker 1: much of this ship to get star when it comes
Speaker 1: to the why, because I feel like he don't get
Speaker 1: enough praise when it comes to you don't introduce a
Speaker 1: lot of that wild fashion ship into the game. What
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna let he gonna speak for something I
Speaker 1: can want to speak on, you know, just say this
Speaker 1: because you know within our round, he was definitely you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like doing it, you know the
Speaker 1: first like even before I even really knew Gift, I
Speaker 1: knew up Gift and guilt had really kind of made
Speaker 1: a name for himself from kind of going against the
Speaker 1: graind So everybody went gold, get more seal, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's how I knew him, like
Speaker 1: I had been introduced to or he had been spoken of,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, you know, you know, give me a seal.
Speaker 1: So you can just tell that was you know, that
Speaker 1: was like a call and car. That was a trademark,
Speaker 1: like apparently it was noticeable and ship in that time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the big homies a little older than me, so I
Speaker 1: would only hear about certain stuff. But so Gil was
Speaker 1: definitely making a mark even in high school, was just
Speaker 1: going are away with it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like he's definitely embellished on that within the group, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you know, and then in
Speaker 1: an extension of that, everybody had some of the shit
Speaker 1: in them, you know what I'm saying, Like you know,
Speaker 1: and especially when George Clinton christened us the Young parliament forkadelic,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, which basically gave us
Speaker 1: a license to ill. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: we can do anything we want to just do, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean like and and the god Mothers say,
Speaker 1: it's okay, right, were snapped. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You feel me like, We're definitely snappy. I just want
Speaker 1: to what so double Body, because we all we all
Speaker 1: goody googles. You know what I'm saying. You feel me
Speaker 1: like all sweet niggas, all real you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like if we could defend our right to be different
Speaker 1: in the drop of a dime. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You feel me So it was no different than Africa
Speaker 1: Body and the Soul suning for us being the Black
Speaker 1: Spades before they christened themselves. You know Africa about Zulu Nation,
Speaker 1: you know I mean, like so when they was wearing
Speaker 1: them costuming back then, It's like imagine being in the
Speaker 1: middle of the burnt down Bronx with them fucking God
Speaker 1: damn them roll, you know what I'm saying. Like so
Speaker 1: it was probably the same kind of effect, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm liking it towards. And they got away with it.
Speaker 1: And I knew they was. They was thorough because I
Speaker 1: knew the backstory. So anybody from Atlanta, they knew what
Speaker 1: our backstory was, and they knew we could defend it.
Speaker 1: They're like, what sh had? Man, we just got to
Speaker 1: catch up to these niggas because they are some they
Speaker 1: on some extraterrestrial art form type shit. And hey, man,
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna say nothing. We can't say nothing about it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You feel me like, because
Speaker 1: we want we were. It was interesting, it was intriguing,
Speaker 1: and people wanted to understand what the expression was about.
Speaker 1: But it was just the rights of passage to be
Speaker 1: you know, just the individuals that we were, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean like we we fought for that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, and it was an easy win too,
Speaker 1: because like we broke, we had nuts. Man, what I'm
Speaker 1: saying like nuts, I knew for a fact. I'm like, man, shit,
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck? Somebody gonna tell us what we
Speaker 1: can't do? You know what I'm saying, Like, Man, we laugh,
Speaker 1: we might even laugh for we get mad. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You being like, but I got to
Speaker 1: tell you in thirty years, man, like, ain't nobody never
Speaker 1: disrespected us, bro I don't want a way bress man like,
Speaker 1: nobody listen, you are silver or is it gold? You?
Speaker 1: You were just a gold you when you went to
Speaker 1: that award show you was right when your whole head
Speaker 1: was gold and all gold that you win has the award.
Speaker 1: I went, So, you know what I'm saying, like, it's
Speaker 1: all fun, it's all exhibitionism, passion tree, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying Like, it's definitely just being brave enough to
Speaker 1: be yourself, going against the odds, being different, being definitive,
Speaker 1: being distinguishable, you know, setting yourself apart, and it takes
Speaker 1: you take heart and soul to be yourself because the
Speaker 1: main identity crisis that most people in society go through
Speaker 1: is not wanting to be alone. That's painful. Some people
Speaker 1: don't want Some people they they they sacrifice being an
Speaker 1: individual for the sake of not having to be alone,
Speaker 1: for the safe of being accepted by the by by people.
Speaker 1: You know, that's some real shit. That's really I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like another thing. In the beginning, bro, it
Speaker 1: was just I just realized that our dialect was different.
Speaker 1: I realized that the way we performed was different. And
Speaker 1: I came up with I came up with in my
Speaker 1: own here, and I was like, man, if they if
Speaker 1: they don't remember nothing we said, they gonna remember what
Speaker 1: I looked like. I just I remember we did we
Speaker 1: did a music conference in Nashville, and that was the
Speaker 1: first time I did it. And I mixed this these
Speaker 1: short sets with this green alligator overall set, and I
Speaker 1: remember seeing it was us and bad Boy, and I
Speaker 1: just remember seeing how they looked didn't be like wow,
Speaker 1: like look like he looked wild. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I knew that that was something that I had to
Speaker 1: continue to do, so I just start expounding on it.
Speaker 1: I just came back home and I just started going
Speaker 1: to fabric stores and I just start I just started
Speaker 1: testing things out. I just started going to Magic City
Speaker 1: and Monkey her Pants and just standing in there with
Speaker 1: all the girls in the strippers and the dope boys
Speaker 1: and just seeing how they react to it. And once
Speaker 1: I just started doing that, walking in there with Lime
Speaker 1: Green all the way to the floor, jackets On and
Speaker 1: the dope boys, They're being like, oh, that's just guilt.
Speaker 1: I was like, I got him. Now I can do it.
Speaker 1: I can I can do it all the time. All right, Look,
Speaker 1: real quick, guys, last question, I just want everybody to Friday,
Speaker 1: the thirteenth album comes out, right, Yeah, real quick, let's
Speaker 1: say I put the album in right, now I want
Speaker 1: everybody to give me a different answer. What's the first
Speaker 1: song I should go listen to? I know the right
Speaker 1: into us. I should just press play and let that
Speaker 1: bitch ride, which I'm gonna do. But give me, give
Speaker 1: me everyone's favorite song on the project quick, my people, people,
Speaker 1: back to back, back to back for my people. Where
Speaker 1: about Curry go? What's it going? Curry go? Curry go?
Speaker 1: All right, well, there you go. Listen. Friday the thirteenth,
Speaker 1: fully produced by Organized Noise, the New Goodie My rolbum
Speaker 1: is out. Go support that ship. I appreciate off all
Speaker 1: of y'all man for sitting down with me and h
Speaker 1: taking the time out of your day. Man, you guys
Speaker 1: are all legends. I appreciate y'all. Thank you. Stay up, man,
Speaker 1: all right, stay up.