Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast and drink of water went
Speaker 1: one hand. Welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I am Greg Rosenthal, not quite surrounded, but
Speaker 1: still joined by a city filled with heroes. Patrick clay
Speaker 1: Van and Erica tam post A, k A, Ricky Hollywood.
Speaker 1: What's happening Greg? A little different today? You know, they
Speaker 1: don't come at me, Hey, my favorite missing. I want Dan,
Speaker 1: I want Mark, but at you. Well, because because I'm representing, um,
Speaker 1: the people that they're that they don't want, you know,
Speaker 1: they want Dan and Mark. Uh, and um, they're not
Speaker 1: getting them this week. Let's break it down. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different of a week. This has
Speaker 1: been a very different offseason. And and Dan and Mark
Speaker 1: are taking a well deserved week to settle a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff. And we thought, hey, we're here, let's take
Speaker 1: a couple of mini shows instead of going dark a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before camp starts, We're just gonna hit
Speaker 1: you with the news of the day. We'll get a
Speaker 1: little extra Ricky Hollywood, will get a lot extra Patrick
Speaker 1: Claiban and we'll say bye and we'll continue our training
Speaker 1: for this. Greg's an extraordinarily nice person. I will translate
Speaker 1: for everybody that's that's trying to figure that out. Well,
Speaker 1: don't complain, You're lucky. I'm doing this for you. I'm
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. I am the source of your joy, your pleasure,
Speaker 1: your pain you're suffering. I am I am Greg About
Speaker 1: to me, that's not quite what he said because the
Speaker 1: sat but no, um, but I like that interpretation. Ricky.
Speaker 1: You were you were at hands this manner um yesterday
Speaker 1: for a nice socially distant sitting far apart um quick
Speaker 1: meat up where you say, yeah, West, that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 1: So West Saukeisha, so baby Lanky is just like so
Speaker 1: freaking cute. It's unreal. Um. Colleen Wolfe was there and
Speaker 1: Dan and we all sat very very far apart, even
Speaker 1: with masks on, even that far apart. So it was
Speaker 1: it was very Um, it was really really we were
Speaker 1: really careful. It was it's still though, it's still it's
Speaker 1: still cool. It was hearing. I was not able to
Speaker 1: make it unfortunately. Um it was tied up with with
Speaker 1: the family. But uh yeah, West West and Keisha said
Speaker 1: it was one of their best days they've had in
Speaker 1: a long time and get to feel like a normal
Speaker 1: person and talk to uh other people. It's exciting. Probably
Speaker 1: when I was your weekend, it was good. Last week
Speaker 1: was probably the busiest week professionally that I've had to
Speaker 1: the NFL, and uh, that was different so the weekends
Speaker 1: because like, honestly the start of all this, there was
Speaker 1: no difference between the days. Everything was basically the same.
Speaker 1: But like I hit Saturday morning and it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, let's let's rest. And then my son
Speaker 1: immediately kicked me in the face and so like it
Speaker 1: was like a like welcome back to reality. But we're
Speaker 1: not resting that much. It's like Malcolm has wet three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's three, and you're in your newborn stage, is you know,
Speaker 1: a newborn? So yeah, you're not getting that much resting me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but just the requirements on me, I could just I
Speaker 1: could just be dad and so that was that was
Speaker 1: cool to just be dad for a couple of days
Speaker 1: and right back at it today. But not to the
Speaker 1: same extent because last week was all right, and now
Speaker 1: we're yeah, we're putting you to work, and I apologize
Speaker 1: for that, but don't even have to put a shirt
Speaker 1: on for this. Just there's like a little bit of it.
Speaker 1: I think an emptiness inside of me, and the only
Speaker 1: way to try to fill it is by podcasting. It's
Speaker 1: like Mark Mark said he was tired of hearing, you know,
Speaker 1: the sound of his own voice. On some level, it's like, Nope,
Speaker 1: not me, gotta just keep talking out into the void.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do some news, Ricky. If Captain
Speaker 1: Hook was moonlighting as a handy man, he might replace
Speaker 1: his hook with what tool? A hammer? A penis. I
Speaker 1: have never seen Steve Harvey stop during Fast Money, like
Speaker 1: during the Fast Money around the fact that he was
Speaker 1: like what did he just say? Oh so good? That
Speaker 1: was Steve Harvey, who's the host of the Family Feud
Speaker 1: in an NFL Stars Versus Old Stars show, And that
Speaker 1: was Bruce Smith with one of the most memorable family
Speaker 1: feud answers in a long time. That's that's like, as
Speaker 1: a Family Feud host, your job is to be there
Speaker 1: for when somebody said something very sexually suggestive and on
Speaker 1: that like, that's the most important part of hosting that show.
Speaker 1: And that's what Steve Harvey excels at. It is uh,
Speaker 1: it's a classic. I mean, I can't say I watched
Speaker 1: a ton anymore, but man I was locked in as
Speaker 1: a as as a preteen and Michael Irvin, by the way,
Speaker 1: the clip of him celebrating one of his answers is
Speaker 1: also see what the question was. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like an easy either or question. It was like name
Speaker 1: a color on a on a checkerboard and he said
Speaker 1: red or black, which got fifty one out of a hundred,
Speaker 1: and he celebrated like they won a fourth super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But I don't hate it. I love it. I love it. UM.
Speaker 1: I wish we had, you know, such joyful news to
Speaker 1: talk about. UM, well, I guess we do off the
Speaker 1: top depending on how you want to look at it.
Speaker 1: A right has been wronged and we we talked about it.
Speaker 1: The Washington football team, UM, we anticipated they were going
Speaker 1: to change their name. They had officially said that they
Speaker 1: were only doing an examination into the team name. On Monday,
Speaker 1: the team officially announced that they are changing their team name.
Speaker 1: They mentioned the old team name seven times in the statement, UM,
Speaker 1: which which was interesting. But it's coming. And perhaps the
Speaker 1: only reason why they didn't announce what the new name
Speaker 1: is gonna be is there's reportedly a trademark dispute, but
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder, who's owned the team for twenty years and
Speaker 1: long fought against this change. Officially is on the record
Speaker 1: that it will be no more, and it will be
Speaker 1: no more before the season. So they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: figure out what happens with their uniforms and in everything
Speaker 1: else in the next couple of weeks. Patrick, and it
Speaker 1: was seemed like hopefully there's been some sort of plan
Speaker 1: in the works. And it's not just how that statement
Speaker 1: makes it sound, which is that Dan and Ron are
Speaker 1: just kind of like on a zoom call, just talking
Speaker 1: it out, like like you and Amica or me and
Speaker 1: Lauren naming the kids right, like hopefully there's more than
Speaker 1: just two people involved and hopefully, Uh, this is the
Speaker 1: trademark issue is just you know, how squatters are You
Speaker 1: see people do it with U R L s and
Speaker 1: Twitter names all the time. Will they just did some
Speaker 1: realtor apparently squatted on all these names. I think somewhat
Speaker 1: recently he saw what was happening and he suddenly squatted
Speaker 1: on like fifteen different names, and so that you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's unfortunate, But at least like they didn't wait
Speaker 1: right until they had that resolved. They let everybody know
Speaker 1: everything in the week that we're not going to use
Speaker 1: the name anymore. And uh and yeah, it's it's over finally, Uh,
Speaker 1: which you move on something like it's I'm just glad,
Speaker 1: I'm just glad. It's fine. You know. It is funny
Speaker 1: because we're this is one where we're NFL employees and
Speaker 1: a lot of times we get comments, especially from people overseas, Wow,
Speaker 1: you you guys, you know you can. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do a nextent, but you guys can really, you know,
Speaker 1: they really let you take the piss out of out
Speaker 1: of the league, even though you work for him. But
Speaker 1: there there are some issues that you know, you always
Speaker 1: have to be professional about it. But b was kind
Speaker 1: of a third rail issue and this was it. This
Speaker 1: was almost like the number one third rail issue. So
Speaker 1: there is something to me. You mentioned, um, you know
Speaker 1: Mike Silver call in the name racist. I looked at
Speaker 1: you know that Judy Batiste the headline she writes for
Speaker 1: NFL dot com today and just you know, calling an
Speaker 1: embarrassed a long term embarrassment for the league is finally
Speaker 1: over with. And there's almost part of me that's still like,
Speaker 1: can she say that? But but but it's great because
Speaker 1: she can and Um, it's the weird thing is it's
Speaker 1: been such a long fight and we will move on
Speaker 1: from it. But it's not like it's not like this
Speaker 1: is a new thing in I forgot the name, but
Speaker 1: an Indian council back in two was battling hard for this.
Speaker 1: This is almost a fifty year old fight. There were
Speaker 1: three thousand people Ricky at the super Bowl in the
Speaker 1: early nineties that Washington played at protesting that super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So that's that's thirty years ago. So it's not about like, hey,
Speaker 1: this isn't like you know, different Native um voices have
Speaker 1: been battling this for a long time and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're they're thrilled to see this. I uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's like a larger question in
Speaker 1: this in this time. Um. But man, like that there's
Speaker 1: a there's a reckoning, there's another there's more reckonings for
Speaker 1: this country out there. And I read this novel I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna give it a shout called there there by
Speaker 1: Tommy Orange last year and it's a novel, but man,
Speaker 1: it made it provided kind of like a kaleidoscope of
Speaker 1: the current native experience in the country. That was eye opening.
Speaker 1: To me, and and it's in a fictional way, in
Speaker 1: in such a way that I'm almost like ashamed how
Speaker 1: little I know I've ever thought about it. And it's
Speaker 1: a brilliant writing too, So i'd recommend that to anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one thing that they kind of leached out to me
Speaker 1: that through the course of the conversation, again, like as
Speaker 1: you said, from my entire life about this this team's name,
Speaker 1: is this idea that the only reason it matters is
Speaker 1: because certain people are quote unquote offended and and somebody
Speaker 1: always they say offended in such a in such a
Speaker 1: way that it's like, oh, well they're being ninnies, right,
Speaker 1: and that's it. But it's it's not about who is
Speaker 1: or who isn't quote quote offended. Right. The the ideas
Speaker 1: that we have perpetuate actual harm on people, and especially
Speaker 1: these people who were here before any of us, Right,
Speaker 1: And if we can't change at least even the most
Speaker 1: minor things, that we're not gonna be able to change, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the things that that still impact in today.
Speaker 1: And a shout out to the last person to complain
Speaker 1: about me not using the team name on Twitter who
Speaker 1: added the network and the league account run by Bright
Speaker 1: and anybody else in social who, I guess gets angry
Speaker 1: tweets about me. Why did your late night anchor Patrick
Speaker 1: Clayban on Thursday Night call Blank the football team from
Speaker 1: Washington instead of their nickname when doing the highlights of
Speaker 1: their preseason games preseason games? By the way, is this
Speaker 1: an option that you've given to your talent on the network? Well, Uh,
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about me saying or not
Speaker 1: saying the team name anymore. Uh. Sorry, I guess today
Speaker 1: sucks for you. Sorry, not sorry. You do wonder. I
Speaker 1: do wonder a little bit, um if the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: next and the Chiefs are different because the chief There's
Speaker 1: many reasons why it's different. Um, but I do think
Speaker 1: it's it's possible, and I don't think you'll see, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the tomahawk chalk at uh at chief schemes in
Speaker 1: different sporting events to um. Moving on to uh to
Speaker 1: the issue of the day. And there's not a huge
Speaker 1: update today in terms of where we are with the
Speaker 1: coronavirus in California. Here just to give you know, our listeners,
Speaker 1: you know, a clue of kind of where we're at.
Speaker 1: You know, cases are skyrocketing, they are now you know,
Speaker 1: adding restrictions or re adding restrictions um to what we
Speaker 1: can do in terms of hair salons are now closed
Speaker 1: as of Monday once again, indoor malls, a bunch of
Speaker 1: indoor activities essentially throughout the state. So and that that's
Speaker 1: happening in a lot of places where um, new mask
Speaker 1: laws are are happening, new restrictions are happening, uh in
Speaker 1: hot spots throughout the country. So we're not in a
Speaker 1: in a good place in the country. And that leaves
Speaker 1: the conversations between the NFL p A and the NFL
Speaker 1: and how to start training cap very complicated. And you know,
Speaker 1: I could get into all the details. I just don't
Speaker 1: think they're that interesting. But right now the two sides
Speaker 1: are are talking on Monday about everything, how they're gonna
Speaker 1: on ramp the season, players, safety, health, and then economics.
Speaker 1: There's an idea to have like a stipend. If you
Speaker 1: end up being on a team or even if you
Speaker 1: show up to work, you get an extra two hundred
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars or five hundred thousand dollars this year
Speaker 1: that's guaranteed even if the games aren't completed. That's one
Speaker 1: idea maybe if if we if we go have to
Speaker 1: go into the studio, we I think we should talk
Speaker 1: about that. We should. Yeah, I don't think they're right now.
Speaker 1: We are We're not going back into the studio as
Speaker 1: NFL media employees. But I think the biggest takeaway is
Speaker 1: just we're two weeks away supposedly from when all the
Speaker 1: teams are supposed to show up, and I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say there is increasing um concerned that they're
Speaker 1: not going to be starting on that day. That that
Speaker 1: is that is up in the air, and I think
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaportin and some of the players have have talked
Speaker 1: about that. I think my hope is if they don't
Speaker 1: start right, if if we're looking at this at it
Speaker 1: won't happen. I hope it's for safety reasons. I hope
Speaker 1: it's not over a contract dispute or just the dispute
Speaker 1: over the money, because I think we've seen, at least
Speaker 1: in Tom's reporting since Friday, some pretty reasonable um proposals
Speaker 1: from the p A side, right, and you could you
Speaker 1: could negotiate on that in terms of, you know, the
Speaker 1: stipend or how much money is going to players who
Speaker 1: have guaranteed salaries, uh, in the event of a loss.
Speaker 1: But I just I hope the decisions are being made
Speaker 1: with regards to safety first and then everything else can
Speaker 1: can kind of follow after that. But I mean, if
Speaker 1: there's a if there's a good faith effort on both
Speaker 1: sides to be as safe as possible to start, then
Speaker 1: then that's the starting point. But it's uh, it's unfortunate
Speaker 1: that players who and this is just in general how
Speaker 1: it is always with with like c bas and contracts, like.
Speaker 1: Players have a very limited window to make money and
Speaker 1: the owners have a significantly larger window. And so when
Speaker 1: you're asking players to split losses, right, if there's up
Speaker 1: to four billion dollars in losses, if you want them
Speaker 1: to split it fifty over the course of one year,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could really look at that and
Speaker 1: say that's that's fair. Right for these players, in particular
Speaker 1: to the shoulder that loss, it's it's complicated, which was
Speaker 1: why I'm not going to be you know, lightened, you know,
Speaker 1: torches or take the pitchforks out at this point. It
Speaker 1: is complicated, and I if on both sides, and the
Speaker 1: revenue sharing aspect to the league adds another layer of complication.
Speaker 1: But nothing's more complicated than the health stuff, and nothing's
Speaker 1: more out of the league's control than the health stuff
Speaker 1: in California and Texas in Florida which is having record cases.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I keep going back to that same point.
Speaker 1: The league's not the league and the players aren't gonna
Speaker 1: have any ability to help control that, and that that's
Speaker 1: where it's gonna be really complicated. And and I did.
Speaker 1: I I reached out to Ian see if he had
Speaker 1: anything extra where he's just kind of feeling things, and
Speaker 1: he he just said he nobody knows anything. Nobody knows anything.
Speaker 1: So if you have this idea of like there's a
Speaker 1: certain group of people that knows what's gonna happen, I
Speaker 1: don't think. So. Maybe it's at the very inside of
Speaker 1: the league office where Roger Goodell works, um has like
Speaker 1: a hope of how things are gonna go. But I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone in terms of teams, coaches, or even
Speaker 1: the highest place media people really have have any clue
Speaker 1: how this is gonna go times and and extrapolate that
Speaker 1: not just out through the NFL, but through all of society.
Speaker 1: UM in the United States of America, where where nobody
Speaker 1: really knows. Are we bumming? Are we bumming people? Are
Speaker 1: we bumming you out Erica? That's what I worry about.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, it's it's this is our current, it's
Speaker 1: our present. I think it'll be interesting to see what
Speaker 1: happens with the bubble with the NBA. And I think
Speaker 1: that everything that's happening right now in other sports is
Speaker 1: going to directly translate to to this league. And even
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook today is positive for coronavirus, so it's happening
Speaker 1: at an alarming rate. Still, right, a lot of players
Speaker 1: in your right. I I totally agree that some of
Speaker 1: the trial and error that the MLB and NF NBA
Speaker 1: are going through in terms of their testing time and
Speaker 1: how that gets complicated, um, that the NFL be watching
Speaker 1: that closely. But the NFL also has uh has way
Speaker 1: more people. By the way. I saw Russell Westbrook at
Speaker 1: our local kids park last summer um last summer, and
Speaker 1: I mean not surprising that he's, you know, a striking
Speaker 1: individual in person, but he could do like he could
Speaker 1: lift his daughter up to like the high part of
Speaker 1: the playground in which I could There's no way that
Speaker 1: I could, like he could just pick her up and
Speaker 1: take her down, but it was like seven ft in
Speaker 1: the air. And that's the sort of level of parenting
Speaker 1: that he can provide like that. I just can't. I
Speaker 1: just can't. What do you have to climb up? And
Speaker 1: she's got a climb up and down, which is fine,
Speaker 1: that's the whole idea, but you know if she I
Speaker 1: think in this case, his his kid was upset and
Speaker 1: he could just like reach up and grab her and
Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna happen for me. He's a tall you know,
Speaker 1: he's a guard, so you don't think of it, but
Speaker 1: he is a tall, tall man. Yeah. It's the scale
Speaker 1: of NBA players kind of throws everything off, like especially
Speaker 1: when you think, like like Dwayne Wade and Julio Jones
Speaker 1: are the same size, but like us they Westbrook is
Speaker 1: what six six or seven or something, So I don't know,
Speaker 1: you don't think of it, but yeah, he looked like
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Apparently they play at the church. Him and
Speaker 1: some players played Gonza. Gonza are our friend Colleen's husband
Speaker 1: John Gonzalez. Drop. Do you have that drop in a studio?
Speaker 1: You think I can just pull it out of the note?
Speaker 1: Maybe you could, like later, you could just throw it
Speaker 1: in there. He somehows he somehow knew he's in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood that the NBA players get down at that that church,
Speaker 1: Jim right near us. Moving on, all right, let's talk
Speaker 1: franchise tag. I know, Um, I know, the training camp
Speaker 1: may or may not start on time, but the rest
Speaker 1: of the NFL little dates in terms of transactions have
Speaker 1: gone off as planned all off season, and that includes
Speaker 1: almost the last one, which is the day that franchise
Speaker 1: tag players have to sign a long term deal by
Speaker 1: or they only have the option to play under that tag.
Speaker 1: This year, that day is July fifteen. That day is Friday,
Speaker 1: I mean Wednesday rather and uh, it does not appear
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott is going to sign a new contract.
Speaker 1: They're very far apart um. And to expand it even further,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like any one of the players that
Speaker 1: was a franchise tag and there was fourteen of them
Speaker 1: this year, which is a huge number. I think it's
Speaker 1: the second most ever. Um got the franchise tag this year.
Speaker 1: Justin Simmons, the safety of the Broncos. They're apparently talking
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams. He's not getting it. Matthew Jude on is
Speaker 1: fighting to be counted as a linebacker instead of I
Speaker 1: mean a defensive end instead of a linebacker. Shack Barrett's
Speaker 1: doing that. But my takeaway two days away from this
Speaker 1: deadline is that it looks like none of these guys
Speaker 1: are getting long term contract. That includes Chris Jones as
Speaker 1: well Patrick. And a part of that is just the
Speaker 1: general direction that the franchise tag is taken over the
Speaker 1: last few years and and then like not to like
Speaker 1: bring it back down, but it's just just the uncertainty
Speaker 1: that's associated with this virul right um. And so there's
Speaker 1: been and you see, like like Ian said today that
Speaker 1: you know, there's still two days for dec right, but
Speaker 1: what's what's the incentive, right um, especially if you're considering
Speaker 1: that there's a possibility that this season might be shortened. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, if he's if he's on the tag like
Speaker 1: he he could stand up lose a lot of money
Speaker 1: on what's the incentive from the team You're saying, because
Speaker 1: they're still they're still incentive from the player's perspective to
Speaker 1: get that guaranteed money sooner than later. Yeah, I get
Speaker 1: some get some guaranteed money at the signing, But what's
Speaker 1: as far as your there, it's just it's just not there,
Speaker 1: and so that's working out in their favor. And a
Speaker 1: lot of these other guys it's just like, well we'll
Speaker 1: tag him. Um you know that they were interested in
Speaker 1: having them long term anyway, most of them, I would agree.
Speaker 1: I don't think Matthew Judon was ever are getting a
Speaker 1: long term deal. I don't think Shack Barrett was ever
Speaker 1: getting a long term deal. The truth maybe Leonard Williams
Speaker 1: or Debt was definitely not getting a long term deal.
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney with the Patriots, Um, I don't think it
Speaker 1: was ever getting a long term deal. But guys like
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, who have made some noise about letting this
Speaker 1: hold out go a little further, it does appear like
Speaker 1: Chiefs are trying to make some sort of good faith effort. Um,
Speaker 1: it would be complicated, but I just I just don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen. And the Cowboys, especially um Many,
Speaker 1: they've got a good deal of just having him on
Speaker 1: a one year contract. But it's dangerous. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the you know, it really is dangerous because I think,
Speaker 1: you know, that's only gonna be worth more and more
Speaker 1: as this. You know, if he plays well this year,
Speaker 1: and I think he will, I just I don't understand
Speaker 1: how we're still doing this thing that Matthew Judean and
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett are having to deal with, Like if you
Speaker 1: if you're rushing the pastor a certain number of times,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like just just stop trying to play call
Speaker 1: these dudes linebackers like order we do. He led the
Speaker 1: NFL and SAX, So you're gonna like this is yeah,
Speaker 1: for this is getting in the weeds. But this is
Speaker 1: a battle that's been going on I think for like
Speaker 1: fifteen years at different positions. There was outside linebacker and
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. Teams used to battle over and they just
Speaker 1: made it total linebacker. You're right, they need to make
Speaker 1: edge a position. That's what we've done at the Projected
Speaker 1: Starter series. You know, that's what they've done at Rhoda World.
Speaker 1: They don't even mess with the they just go edge
Speaker 1: follow us. We just say edge for the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not like you know, these Mario Williams,
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers guys are coming in a whole lot like
Speaker 1: where it's just like, oh, yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: the guy, Like you line up for us the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Then you're an edge. That's all right. We don't have
Speaker 1: like a ton of like high super crazy level news,
Speaker 1: but we are going to run through a few more
Speaker 1: stories quickly, one of them including the Patriots that I
Speaker 1: don't think it's just me being a Patriots fan that
Speaker 1: finds us interesting. They opened up seven point seven four
Speaker 1: million dollars in space over the weekend when the NFL
Speaker 1: ruled in their favor on a pair of grievances involving
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and wait for it, Aaron Hernandez. They are
Speaker 1: getting salary cap space back um from the Aaron Hernandez
Speaker 1: saga in the year Erica, I know you're a salary
Speaker 1: cap expert. I also know you're an Aeron Hernandez expert
Speaker 1: after watching them the documentary, I think he listened to
Speaker 1: the podcast. You are a Patriots fan. Your thoughts, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: when it comes when it comes to cap stuff like
Speaker 1: I'm your girl, and this is this is huge news.
Speaker 1: This is the best news of uh No, I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I think I mean it's it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of good. That feels like that sort of closing the
Speaker 1: door on the I mean, you don't want to turn
Speaker 1: your turn a blind eye to the Patriots history, but
Speaker 1: it is sort of nice to kind of put that
Speaker 1: behind us going forward. It's also nice to get an
Speaker 1: m v P quarterback and be like, oh man, we
Speaker 1: all look, man, we only got so much money. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you want to play football,
Speaker 1: that's good. This is all we got. You know, this
Speaker 1: is this is this is right. And then the next
Speaker 1: week it's like, oh, hey, look, Reassby, well you already signed. Okay,
Speaker 1: well yeah some else. Oh I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1: That's um, maybe maybe that plays into a future signing.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's like a come and make sure
Speaker 1: you're healthy and show I mean, I know that's like
Speaker 1: the stupidest argument. I mean, they would love I would
Speaker 1: They would love Cam to ball out and to sign
Speaker 1: him to a big term contract. They can use the
Speaker 1: franchise tag. I'm Cam, and he does have a lot
Speaker 1: of incentives in his contract, but not that many. I mean,
Speaker 1: not enough where if he plays well as a starter,
Speaker 1: that he's got to be the best bargain in the
Speaker 1: entire league. And you know, you know who believes me?
Speaker 1: Who agrees Cameron Newton let's let's listen to Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: I know you haven't heard this, Patrick, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's something about me. I've always been a Cam fan.
Speaker 1: I'm obviously Patriots fan. There's something about this entire experience that,
Speaker 1: as we're getting closer to it, is fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: And I just want to listen to a video that
Speaker 1: Cam released after a workout. If you can find it,
Speaker 1: it's where it's cinematic. I mean, well, I mean we're
Speaker 1: listening to. We're gonna listen to the whole thing, So Patrick,
Speaker 1: feel free. We can talk a little over it because otherwise,
Speaker 1: like it's a minute and a half long, let's hit it, Ricky.
Speaker 1: You know what makes it different is he's actually Camp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't seen him. That's a big by the way
Speaker 1: he talked. They forgotten Cam. Yeah, you on Cam tired
Speaker 1: of being sick of tire Camp. I felt like I
Speaker 1: was just left to die. But there's a lot of
Speaker 1: in those you know what I'm saying, it's just just
Speaker 1: just sober with for him. He ain't the same player
Speaker 1: mm hmm. The Atlantic and what you're saying, this is
Speaker 1: the this is the growing up Cam Patrick. People for
Speaker 1: can is literally the son of a preacher. Man. I adore,
Speaker 1: I admire, taste it. I want to. I want everything
Speaker 1: about it, you know what I'm saying. Because he's got
Speaker 1: to work out in doorphins, juice and through h I
Speaker 1: ain't never seen that me. We gotta get uh, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get these guys to like follow more friendly timelines
Speaker 1: so they're not only do I admire it, I want
Speaker 1: to taste it. I want to. I want everything about it,
Speaker 1: all right, because I ain't never seen that me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I ain't wait. Did we just
Speaker 1: moved back to the beginning or something? What just happened?
Speaker 1: Now he's just repeating himself, he is, here's the big end.
Speaker 1: You got more energy? You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: told to say, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, We're going to Charlotte.
Speaker 1: I said, no, soare Charlotte? Did We've got another place
Speaker 1: we're going to? We're going North? Oh? Yeah, North. The
Speaker 1: smile on y'all's faces when he said that, even though
Speaker 1: both of you had heard it before, this kind of
Speaker 1: indicates to me the passion of being an NFL fan.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you guys have another uh at
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'll be a more cinematic one almost almost.
Speaker 1: I mean there is something to First of all, I
Speaker 1: love that, you know, he said he said the humble
Speaker 1: cam is gone. It's like the Humble cam wasn't around
Speaker 1: for too long and no one wants that. That's not
Speaker 1: that's not cam is I want. I want this cam.
Speaker 1: I love that he's he's calling himself the uh. We
Speaker 1: have to beat out some words there, but they did
Speaker 1: it on cam and I don't know. I it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be fascinating. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: makes me so much more excited if there is football
Speaker 1: this season. I just don't want him to be bad,
Speaker 1: you know. I don't want to imagine what Boston is
Speaker 1: like if he doesn't play well. Um, but man, he's
Speaker 1: gonna make it. He makes it. He makes it fun. Please.
Speaker 1: People talk about Jared's did I'm competing with him and
Speaker 1: it doesn't even like cut off. He is like we're
Speaker 1: going north and then he like looks off into the
Speaker 1: distance and then walks into the darkness like someone falling.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, well, let's go. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: right that this is NFL fanom in a nutell because
Speaker 1: I never watched any of these player type videos, hype
Speaker 1: type of I've never watched the camp video like this before.
Speaker 1: But now that now that it's the Patriots and in
Speaker 1: this quiet time, I'm like watching this and thinking, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: watch out right, I think we're gonna we're gonna know
Speaker 1: pretty early, right, Um. I think so, somebody's gonna run
Speaker 1: a deep out and if Cam's fastball is back, well,
Speaker 1: then you guys are gonna win the super Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the only that that's the only difference, like if Cam,
Speaker 1: if Cam's arm is back, then then that's it the page,
Speaker 1: you think. So, I think you're gonna know by mid
Speaker 1: August if if they're actually practicing at full speed, and
Speaker 1: that's gonna take weeks I think to really find out
Speaker 1: about but maybe it's late August. Basically, if he's just
Speaker 1: out there and he's healthy, then then we know. Then
Speaker 1: they have Cam for as long as as it's gonna last.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's six games, maybe that's six years. It's
Speaker 1: it's really tough to tell, but it is. It is
Speaker 1: one of the delightful subplots of this season that that
Speaker 1: makes me hope that we do have it um after
Speaker 1: this season, though we already know a little bit about
Speaker 1: the broadcasting teams. For one, Greg Olsen has officially signed
Speaker 1: to Fox Sports. We've been tracking this story and I
Speaker 1: just figured let's throw it in there. He is signing
Speaker 1: one to Fox Sports. He's going to be their number
Speaker 1: two analysts along with Kevin Burkhard. That was the old
Speaker 1: Charles Davis roll. Charles Davis is going to CBS. Moose
Speaker 1: Johnston is gonna fill it this year, but just for
Speaker 1: one year. And Greg Olsen is getting a nice post
Speaker 1: um career gig. And I'm all about it because I
Speaker 1: think he's done a great job when he's who's done
Speaker 1: some games. I can't wait to see what the third
Speaker 1: leg of Gregg's career is gonna look like. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is just, uh, he's taken over. He's been in
Speaker 1: at Miami, UM flourished in Charlotte. You know, they had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to win a Super Bowl, and I think
Speaker 1: it's good. Like there's there was this era right of
Speaker 1: color guys UM that didn't really it seemed like it
Speaker 1: was forced almost and kind of Romo has opened up
Speaker 1: this idea of just kind of get up there and
Speaker 1: be you don't necessarily try to fit into this this
Speaker 1: broadcaster mold that we've all been up there and if
Speaker 1: you if you want to have if you want to
Speaker 1: have fun, if you want to be excited, if you
Speaker 1: want to riff on the guy that's calling the game, like,
Speaker 1: go up there and do it. I'm I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: see Greg do it. I'm excited to see you know,
Speaker 1: the next wave. Not to not to push anybody out,
Speaker 1: but you know, just let's let's just watch the game
Speaker 1: and have some fun and uh not be all kaji
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Give Nate Burlison and that uh NFL network
Speaker 1: team and mid a little extra work too. I think
Speaker 1: they were fun out in the UK last year. A
Speaker 1: couple smaller items. Again, we're gonna close up with here
Speaker 1: and and say goodbye, and we will be doing one
Speaker 1: other show this week. Unless you just come at me
Speaker 1: and say, uh no, no, She's just like that wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough. Sorry, Greg um raheem most had a trade
Speaker 1: with quest. This happened after we taped their last podcast
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Since then the agents walked it back some
Speaker 1: somewhat or totally that he realizes it was a bad idea,
Speaker 1: but he does want to raise Raheem most Or a
Speaker 1: super Bowl and playoff hero. I mean could have been,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the most valuable for there was Erica,
Speaker 1: but they just don't want to pay him because he's
Speaker 1: a running back and they find running backs and trees
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. I do think it's a little it's
Speaker 1: funny that he's like, actually, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to trade anymore, which is like the ultimate leverage. It's
Speaker 1: like if I go to my boss and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: someone's really recruiting me and like they're gonna pay me whatever.
Speaker 1: Then they're like, okay, go and it's like, oh wait now,
Speaker 1: Like I'm good here, but can we like work something out.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've tried that move I have. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: still trying. I try it. You know, you've tried, like
Speaker 1: they be getting steps of that of that move. I
Speaker 1: think it could be successful. I think at this point,
Speaker 1: your leverage is greater than it's ever been. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: But for for he most Er I think they kind
Speaker 1: of like I would. I would think that Shanahan would
Speaker 1: want to keep that team as close together as possible
Speaker 1: for right now because they're in that window still and
Speaker 1: especially with the season that they had, they're in a
Speaker 1: good place. But that stage stage stage is making a
Speaker 1: guest your parents. Uh, do you wanna do you? Do
Speaker 1: you need to do? You need to go? Do you
Speaker 1: want to bring stage on the show. It's up to you.
Speaker 1: I mean she is on the show. I love having her.
Speaker 1: We can yeah, we can see her here in the
Speaker 1: second Lauren is manipulating a a extrement receptacle device and uh,
Speaker 1: you see this is what Um, I'm sure it's a
Speaker 1: great audio. No, I think it's great. It's a slice
Speaker 1: of life. Um. But honestly, like I understand where raheem
Speaker 1: most it is coming from. You're just pivoting right off
Speaker 1: of sage. I thought you were given to give some
Speaker 1: fatherly like, Okay, this is what life is like, is it?
Speaker 1: Don't really have any like things to present, Like Lauren's
Speaker 1: has just been carrying us this this a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: And so like my fatherly advice would be to uh
Speaker 1: to find a spouse about Mary Lauren. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: I would suggest everybody somebody like my wife, but not
Speaker 1: my wife because I like her too much. If you
Speaker 1: guys want to say Hey this stage. Yeah, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: she is so beautiful there because living that baby life
Speaker 1: sceneing Lincoln and look a little yawn. Oh you're just
Speaker 1: waking up. Yeah, I'm not happy about it. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: this lights a little bright so cute like for most
Speaker 1: are if if I get it, like the dudes over
Speaker 1: six yards and carry right for his career. And I
Speaker 1: understand that people want to like attribute that, and I
Speaker 1: know that we've done a lot of math here recently
Speaker 1: with regards to running backs, and like the guy is
Speaker 1: is popped off big runs and he makes plays, so like,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't he try to get like trying to get
Speaker 1: some money? Man, Like, we don't know how long this
Speaker 1: game is gonna exist. We don't know how long players
Speaker 1: careers are gonna So I'm never gonna like dump on
Speaker 1: a guy for trying to put himself in position to
Speaker 1: to make some more money. Well, here's the thing. He
Speaker 1: he was the best one last They were they were
Speaker 1: at their best last year, and he was the best
Speaker 1: one last year, especially when it mattered. They've had a
Speaker 1: lot of different people in there, and this is kind
Speaker 1: of a something people don't consider when you bring free
Speaker 1: agents into your um organization that the other people at
Speaker 1: that position see what they make and if they end
Speaker 1: up outperforming them, then that becomes a problem, or if
Speaker 1: they already were in this case, moster you know, was
Speaker 1: paid at a normal rate. But now he sees Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman and he saw what Jerrick McKinnon was making. UM,
Speaker 1: and he's making a lot less than them, and he
Speaker 1: was a lot more valuable than Tevin Coleman was even
Speaker 1: when Coleman was on the field. And so uh and
Speaker 1: so you get upset, and uh, maybe they'll give him
Speaker 1: a little pop. Maybe I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 1: put some incentives or throwing throwing something into his country,
Speaker 1: give him a throw him a bone at least. Um.
Speaker 1: We are gonna wrap up with some more running back news,
Speaker 1: which is that DeVonta Freeman Um, who is not in
Speaker 1: the right now, reportedly did have interest UM from a
Speaker 1: variety of teams but couldn't settle on on the right number.
Speaker 1: Um has had his relationship with his agent terminated. That
Speaker 1: his agent sort of fired him, I guess basically because
Speaker 1: he wouldn't take the contract that she uh was hoping
Speaker 1: that he took, which is you don't see that too often. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I'd like to hear from DeVonta Freeman, right,
Speaker 1: because um, the agent out in front right has has something,
Speaker 1: has some has a lot of skin in the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe not as much as as DeVonta Freeman. And I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm definitely not doubting anybody's reporting, but um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like when a marriage doesn't work and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, sources say that he was a jerk,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, well, let's let's uh, let's get
Speaker 1: another point of view here, because maybe maybe there's some
Speaker 1: blame to be cast on both sides. Are you are
Speaker 1: you you know, referring to the did J Cutler divorce
Speaker 1: or any okay, perhaps any any relationship involving more than
Speaker 1: one person, right, Because there were some stories, there were
Speaker 1: some stories that came out immediately that didn't paint day
Speaker 1: in the in the in the in the brightest light,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and pressed and it felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is probably not coming from Jay's camp. Yeah, does J?
Speaker 1: Does J Cutler paint himself in the brightest light? Like
Speaker 1: it's like, who can you blame here? Really? I mean,
Speaker 1: but honestly, I mean when you get involved with with
Speaker 1: a J. Cutler, one would think that you would be
Speaker 1: aware of the circumstances that would follow um. But you know,
Speaker 1: all the best to Jay and Kristin and Davante and
Speaker 1: his agent as well. His agent his name Kristen, Kristen Campbell. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't like it when the agents putting it out
Speaker 1: there like that. There quick clearly trying to say like,
Speaker 1: hey guys, it wasn't my fault that he didn't get
Speaker 1: a contract this offseason, so it's playing the game. I
Speaker 1: don't love that. In one on the topic of agents,
Speaker 1: one thing that that I thought about, Charlie castlely kind
Speaker 1: of slightly went in on Patrick Mahomes agent uh last
Speaker 1: week and it was like the first time that I
Speaker 1: remember any concrete criticism of a player's agent, uh. And
Speaker 1: so that was cool too. Do you like that? You
Speaker 1: like to see that? Yeah, because when the when the
Speaker 1: when the players signed their own contracts, right, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they could have got this, that and the other. But
Speaker 1: if it's if it's an agent done deal, generally the
Speaker 1: idea is like, oh, well, this is the best that
Speaker 1: they could have done. You know this they were working
Speaker 1: with certain circumstances, because agents really dictate the course of
Speaker 1: our conversations about a lot of things. And uh, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I've got a better one. Now that it ended good,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to hear more about that later.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, Erica, hopefully you find the agent
Speaker 1: of your dreams. I hope. So, thanks Greig, I've got
Speaker 1: mine and a shout out to Burke. And that's it
Speaker 1: for this show. I think we're just doing news. We're
Speaker 1: gonna update you on everything that's happening in the NFL
Speaker 1: a little later in the week, and um, and that's it.
Speaker 1: And we'll be back with our our full shows next
Speaker 1: week and our TV are around the NFL broadcast next week.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna hold it down this week and we're
Speaker 1: gonna have fun doing it. Thank you, Patrick, thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's do it for Patrick Claiborne. Erica tam pose for
Speaker 1: Lauren and Sage. They jumped in here for Patrick Claiborne's
Speaker 1: fired agent, see, wouldn't they m