WEBVTT - Draft Day LIVE - Day 3 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:03.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:10.879 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Welcome to Dallas Cowboys 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.440 dot COM's live bumper to bumper coverage of the twenty 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:20.439 fifteen NFL Draft with David Hellman, Nick Eatman, Rob Phillips, 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:25.840 Bill Jones, Cowboys Coaches, Draft Fix and special guests. Now, 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:31.000 your hosts, Dane Brugler and Brian brought us and welcome 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.959 to day three of the coverage here on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.960 dot Com of the NFL Draft. Brian brought us along 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.400 with David Hellman, Dane Brugler, and we're gonna get this 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.120 program started in a special way because we have a 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.159 special coach here, a special teacher in a lot of 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.680 different ways. You know. I'm very excited. I've always been 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.400 my times of being in National Football League and evaluating coaches. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.279 This is one of the those outstanding guys when you 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.639 watch on the field, and I'm talking about Rod Marinelli 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.520 and the things that he's able to get from his 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.320 players and what his players learned from him. Coach, Welcome, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.160 and thank you so much for taking some time with 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.280 us today. My pleasure. Thanks for allowing me to be 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.000 here coach. We yesterday we went through this whole day 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.800 with Randy Gregory, and you know, and had a chance 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.679 to visit with Randy Gregory, and you know, the talent 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.560 was there. Everything about Randy Gregory, the off the field 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.919 stuff is a question mark about him, but again the talent, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.840 We've evaluated the talent. We know what that talents. When 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.480 we had a chance to talk to him, he brought 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.080 up a player that I'm very familiar with Simeon Rice, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.400 And I want to get from you because Simeon Rice, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.119 to me, was always a guy that when Arizona maybe 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.040 a little bit bit underachiever, but when you took him over, 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.919 you made him into this elite type of a player. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.720 Is that a fair comparison Simeon Rice with what we 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.360 get with Randy Gregory here? You know it is some 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.120 You know, Simeon was special. I mean he came out 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.440 of college that he's a special athlete, specially special player, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.840 got the great mental makeup to be for the position, 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.120 and he just took off. And I think part of 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.400 it was we had a heck of a defense too, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.480 Sap and Brooks and Lynch and those guys Barber and uh. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.200 But as I look at the two, I see the 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:17.080 same length. Uh, the frame is very similar, the band 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.680 is very similar, and the passion for the position is similar. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.960 The U when it's so hard to find those elite 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.760 rushers and and and you talk about the bin. So 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.079 he has all those traits that you're you're looking at though, 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:36.320 and so is the traits though any different, Like, say, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.840 is is he a right he's just a right defensive 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.080 end in the way you play in your scheme. I 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.919 think it's he's a right end because they're so they're 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.760 difficult to find a third down rusher like that. I mean, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.360 it really is tough. And but he could rush from 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.680 either side. It doesn't matter. He'd be good either either 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.840 side because he would be a mismatch for the right 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.799 tackle athletically. But you just try to get as many 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.560 good rushers on your team and put him in positions 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.520 to rush. And now certain guys will command a slide 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.440 or a chip and then hopefully you get one or 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.720 two guys singled up. Coach, very fortunate last night to 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.440 hear a little bit of the audio from when you 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.200 guys actually called Randy to let him know he was 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.480 going to be the pick and We've heard about off 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.480 field stuff, him having issues in the past, and something 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.200 was really interesting to me was that he told you 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.040 that that he wants you to be ard on him. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.240 He wants you to coach him hard and hold him accountable. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.560 Can you just explain to us, maybe a little more 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.480 in detail, your your role in that and y'all providing 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.760 this kind of structure for him to kind of walk 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.520 that straight and narrow path. You know, I think it's 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.760 for every player. You know, I've always kind of talked 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.560 to you, try to coach a man first and the 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.720 player second, and that's about I think just about accountability. 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.560 It's uh, you know too right every second of every day. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.200 And I think he's got great passion for the game, 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.240 there's no doubt, and now it's just about times to 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:03.440 be humble, take accountability and helped his football team, and 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.960 then I hold him accountable. Once that stated, whatever we state, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.520 then it's then I'm going to hold you accountable. I 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.160 don't think you go into ten thousand rules and all 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.640 this stuff. For me, we know what needs to be 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.560 done and it's just time to go do what we're 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.800 supposed to do. What's your impression, I mean, he was 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.160 here earlier during the draft process, you got to meet 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.560 with him a little bit. What's your impression of how 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.560 he can handle that and respond to your style? You know, 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.720 I've always held one thing, and so it's high esteem. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:39.279 Is when a guy really loved football, they'll change. If 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.080 you really really been around guys like that, then they 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.440 really love football and they practice and they play hard 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.680 that it becomes so important to him. Then the structure 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.560 they can see and help him make them better, they 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.640 usually buy into that. It's I struggle with guys to 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.200 be honest with the underachievers with talent, you know, or 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.200 they struggle with me, I should say. And because I think, 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.520 you know, you don't want to be disrespectful to this game. 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.400 Cowboys added another talented player in the first round with 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.960 Byron Jones. A lot of things like about him, talk 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.360 about maybe his versatility and what that brings to your defense. Yeah, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:21.120 and he's got position flexibility, so that's really great, you know. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.559 And we got another big, good looking, fast corner because 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.200 we are you know, we probably lead off with man coverage, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:30.720 you know, we like it. We will go up there 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.720 impress people and and it buys time for the rush 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.000 and some of those things, so we couldn't be more excited. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:42.920 He's an overachiever. He's really into football, really loves football. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.119 But now you get this league is getting so many tall, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.640 big receivers and now you match him was He's a 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.839 guy that's got the speed and the range and he's 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.479 a very high intellect guy. Really likes it. Coach the 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.800 you talk about the position flex and it seems like 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.880 though that the players that you've added as you go 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.040 with the intent of like Hitchens and you know he's 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.760 played several different started all three positions. Is that something 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.000 though you're a long time NFL man and have you 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.560 seen it's like it's now about the guys that can 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.839 play the most positions. It's not about really just playing 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.039 one position, but I need you to play two or 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.039 three positions because exactly what you've talked about, the different 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.120 matchups you face every week, no question, and I think 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:33.839 you go into it and saying there's corners out there 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.520 that that's a speed position in college right now, and 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.000 those guys can move inside. You look at you look 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:47.280 for will linebackers and they now can play all three 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:51.440 backup position because the movement as speed, your hands, sometimes 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.839 your left hands can move into being an undertackle like 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.800 Tyrone with a quickness. So you're you're always trying to 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:03.039 look for athleticism and that football character guys and guys 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.240 who want to come to work. And then I think 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.440 you're going to be in good shape when I when 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.880 I look at your team, though, you've you've taken a 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.360 guy like Nick Hayden and and made him into a 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.360 player that you know when you watch him play and 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.680 things like that. He's one of those guys that looks 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.280 like a perfect fit for playing your one. Is there 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.040 certain positions though at the inside spot? I know you 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.320 what you come at the three, but there is there 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.360 some things you want to maybe upgrade a little bit. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.480 And I don't mean that disrespect to Nick. Is there 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.880 a more of an athletic guy now in the draft 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.040 and maybe in this third day that's on the board. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.200 I'm not asking to give a government secrets here, but 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.560 is there somebody on that board though that it kind 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.320 of fits what you're looking at, maybe as an as 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.600 an upgrade at maybe your one technique. I think all 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.520 vos are looking as part of the league. But Nick, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.680 now I'm telling he, I don't know. People sometimes we 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.200 see what a good athlete he is, right, he's like 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.440 a big linebacker in there at times. And I know 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.920 he is got great feet, great movement, Terrell, I think 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.880 he's got We've got Jack Crawford and go inside some 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.600 of those things. So but you always look, you know, 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.000 that's part of the part of the deal. You every 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.760 day you're trying to get better. But I'm really pleased 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.640 with some of those guys. So you're like the way 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.960 things are shaping up, especially with the addition though with 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.280 with Randy Gregory and then and then you know Hardy 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.960 Inner Russia as well though, but your Rushiman kind of 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.440 get up created there all across the board there. Yeah, 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.680 and they're all good high achievers you know that really 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.200 love football, you know. And plus with Mints and all 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.520 those other guys, with guy, it's it's getting to be 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.640 a highly competitive group. All right. Well, coach, thank you 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.959 so much for stopping buying a great start to our day, 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.640 our third day in the draft coverage. So, Rod Marinelli 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.480 one of the great teachers that I've ever been around. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.400 You talk about coaches, but this man's a teacher, and 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.720 I think that's the most important thing. When you talk 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.240 about a lot of bunch of guys that you know, 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.640 these players, they have to come in, they have to learn, 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:56.960 and he is one of the guys that I have 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.160 the utmost respect for for that job. Not at all, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.000 Not at all. And you know, he gave you a 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:07.600 little insight about what he thought about h. Randy Gregory. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.240 He's gonna worry about the football side of it, but 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.800 then he's gonna make him accountable. And I think that's 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.600 what we all need. Everybody out there needs to hear that. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.520 The Cowboys. It's not just show up and rush the passer. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.599 It's gonna be Hey, you're gonna have to be accountable. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.040 He's gonna coach this guy hard. And that's a good thing. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.240 And that's a good question on your part. Steven Stephen 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.319 Jones said it last night. I mean, I don't think 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.880 you can understate. You know, maybe they're not as willing 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.920 to make that pick if they don't have Rod Marinelli. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.400 You know, he's I mean, he's Hall of Fame level coach. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.680 He's done this before on the field side of things, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.800 but also has you know, great teacher, hard nosed guy's 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.000 not gonna take any nonsense. And I think knowing that 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.040 they have him there to mold Randy Gregory, I mean 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.440 DeMarcus Lawrence too for that matter. All I mean just 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.880 having him there, I'm sure it gives you loads more 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:02.079 confidence than just about any other defensive line coach in 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.760 the league. Well that's uh, you know, and that's uh, 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.400 that's what this thing's all about. Though. It's about getting in, 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.960 getting in and bringing all these players together and trying 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.880 to get we We thought that the biggest questions going 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.080 into season last year was this defense. And I have 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.480 to feel good that a guy like Rod Marinella can 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.160 come in and get those players and he gets I 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.480 asked about Nick Hayden because last night was there questions 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.840 about Carl Davis, you know, on the board and things 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.079 like that, and take them might have taken him. Yeah, 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.600 I mean so they you know there there's there's some 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.880 players and Dane will get into uh some of the 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:43.000 guys that we see uh still on the board uh 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:48.200 going forward here, Uh defensive lineman, we Newness roaches, Uh, 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.199 Grady Jarrett. There's some guys that are still on this board, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.400 uh that can that can help this football team. Dane 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.480 um as it uh as they continue to try add 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.040 pieces for this defense, right and it'd be interesting, Um 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.000 who's available for them here in the fourth obviously, UH, 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.280 don't pick for a while here, So you know, Willem 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.440 Michael Bennett slip through the cracks and land. Will that 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.679 be a possibility for the Cowboys here in the fourth round? 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.440 Rokiem Newnis roach as a player we both like a lot. Yes, 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.439 could he slip there? And so a lot of options 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.600 on defense, also on offense, you know with you know 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.520 the running back position. Obviously, I think that's what cowboys 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.760 want to Cowboys fans want to know if is there 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.920 a running back out there that the Cowboys have their 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.480 eye on? Here? Is there a target? And so a 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.720 Jagie we keep bringing up that name. We've we talked 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.400 about the knee issues. At some point he becomes worth 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.320 the risk. And again, team doctors, team trainers, they'll tell you, 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.920 we can't tell you if he'll play ten games or 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.160 four years. There's just no way to know. And so 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.240 because that knee issue, and that's that's the gamble. So 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.200 a fourth round, do you take that gamble? You can 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:01.920 take worse risks here in the fourth round. And now 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.280 we're joined here by Bill Jones, who will uh, I 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:09.920 will want a letdout after Marinelli, Bill Jones, now Bill 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:14.560 Jones on exactly and and and Bill will will anchor 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.960 our coverage for the remainder of the day. He had 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.160 a television work yesterday and his uh in this market, 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.320 as a lot of you know, is really tied into 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.120 what the Cowboys do. He's got a really nice take 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.199 on these draft picks. So third day is always a 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.560 day for the scouts. I consider these men in this room, 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.079 these two right here are well so excited. This man 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.000 right yeah, this this is what's all about. But this 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.000 man right here who will carry you the rest away 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.880 with us? As we finished this journey up in the 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.520 NFL Draft bill, we talked to Rod Marinelli. We talked 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.360 about a lot of different things. More so not so 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.920 much the off the field stuff, but what uh these 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.400 players would with Byron Jones, but Gregory and what they 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.400 can bring talk about yesterday though obviously the Gregory one though, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.040 was the one that's got everybody buzzing right now. Yep. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.520 And I was on record in the first round and 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.760 saying no, I would not take him. So it was 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.080 David Helmet first round. But I think that's okay. I 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.560 said it in the second round. Yeah, but I mean 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:15.080 I do think I did say, like second third round 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.720 not so much of a problem. I felt better about 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.720 the Gregory pick actually after listening to him on the 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.240 conference call too. It's absolutely absolutely he he I mean, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.880 like I said last night, it's one step out of many, many, 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.600 many steps. But Randy Gregory's first couple of steps as 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.400 a Cowboy have been pretty encouraging. I think just what 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.120 you've heard on the phone with the front office was 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.640 what he said on the phone with us here in 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.000 our studio and with the Dallas media. And the other 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.680 thing is, you know, I've got limited time. I can't 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.719 I can't spend as much time as you as all 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.520 three of you do, don't act. I covered the Rangers 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.840 and the Maverick, the playoffs and all that's the important 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.000 right now. Try Yeah, I'm trying to study these prospects 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.040 as much as possibly got. I gotta narrow it down 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.880 a little bit, right. And so, since Ray Gregory was 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.040 a top ten pick, I barely even looked at him 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.040 because what were the chances he was even going to 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:07.839 be there as an opportunity for the Cowboys in the 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.640 first round, much less the second round. So I was 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.040 scrambling yesterday, just trying to get up on him, you know, 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.160 and so I wasn't able. And that's one of the 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.800 things that I look at. You guys are great at 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.880 being able to look at tape and time and see, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.280 but and you know what you're looking for on tape. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.640 I'm a novice at this, and what I look at 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.480 a lot of times is sort of the makeup of 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.280 the player. I look at the way he interviews that 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.840 sort of theme, because I think that's important in the process. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.520 And I hadn't been able to really listen to Randy 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.720 Gregory talk. After hearing him on a conference call, I 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.240 feel better about him now. He obviously has issues, and 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.760 I think that this organization has enough in the way 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.440 of help for players like that, and they've proven it 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.400 over time too that they can give him everything he 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.960 needs to to it and be successful. Now it's ultimately 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.520 going to be on him. I think what really I 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.280 took away from from him him I agree with you 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.240 on and the fact that we got to interview him. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.120 I think he is a humbled guy, and I hope 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.760 you know, I don't want to be fooled. I don't 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.040 want to be the guy I don't want to. I 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.120 don't want to be a guy that maybe this guy 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.880 has been a talented football player all his life and 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.120 and you know he's used to and I'm just gonna 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.600 say it, used to this lye into people, you know, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:26.040 and I think you have to be conscious of is 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.680 this guy's sincere and any come in and you know, 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:34.560 listening to Marinelli talk, it's about it's about being humble, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.200 but it's about being accountable. And I keep going back 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.960 to that because he's gonna have to be accountable to 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.760 this defense, to his teammates. You know, he can't get 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:50.320 into the brushes or I shouldn't say brushes because it's 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.760 not a law of thing. It's more of a well 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.480 failing tests. How about selfishness is if I'm using a 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.520 product focus, Yeah, and that's and that's you know, if 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.560 you don't focus with Rod Marinelli, you're gonna have problems. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.800 You're gonna have a lot of problems. I feel a 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.240 lot better about it knowing that that guy is in 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.880 charge of Randy Gregory's development. And I think too, you 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:15.760 look at Leon Lett and Leon letting his own struggles 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.440 with and not saying drug, but his own struggles with 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.520 coming out and being more you know, leon Lett was 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.920 very shy, yeah, and you know, and he had his struggles. 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.600 His refuge was playing the game, you know, and not 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.480 having to deal. But Randy Gregory, to me, seems like 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.080 he can deal with the with us. But he's got 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.200 to deal with those coaches, and he's got to deal 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.240 with those teammates. And he's gonna say, don't forget about 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.640 that locker room. Yeah, And that's the thing. And I 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.600 think that that is, you know, as long as he 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.120 comes in and he works, then you could see the 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.040 elite type talent. And it doesn't take Dame Bruegler to 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.760 see that Randy Gregory can play football. That doesn't that 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.960 that's there's no question in my mind about that. And 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.880 let's remember too, he turns twenty three during the season, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.200 So this isn't like Leonard Williams, who's a twenty year old. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.199 I'm still a very young kid. Randy Gregory's you know, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.120 he's gonna turn twenty three during the season. He's old 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.600 enough to you know, understand exactly what we're saying. And 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.200 hopefully he buys into that. You know, you really hope 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:19.840 that the past habits and uh, you know, the inconsistent 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.640 focus issues are no longer problems, and so he's going 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.160 to a locker room where uh, you know, there are 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.400 there's some seniority, some leadership, and so hopefully you can 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.359 just look at the first round pick and Byron Jones 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.160 and you know, look at that the character he has 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:39.800 and the exactly in the middle hopefully polar opposite. Yeah, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.280 they did that. That That war room went polar opposite 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.720 on you. What I did. I would pay a substantial 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.639 amount of money, all right, maybe not a substantial amount 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.440 I'd pay. I'd pay good money to be a fly 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.560 on the wall in the Dallas Cowboys defensive line room 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.840 this year. That is a fascinating room. I mean, you 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.720 got two DeMarcus Lawrence, you got two second round draft 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:00.960 picks who are basically first roun on draft picks. Yes, 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.720 you got the most hot button player in the NFL, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.719 and Greg Hardy. You got Jeremy You got Jeremy Mintzi, 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.560 who's kind of into the locker room leader. Yeah. Who 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.680 else is in there? Tyrone Crawford waits what nicky Nick 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.199 Hayden team leader? None of the fans seem to like 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.040 the guy, but Rod Marinelli loves him. I just I 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.200 would love to watch game film with Rod Mary Oh, 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.399 and Rod Marinelli will be in there too, So for 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:27.879 good men, you know. But you look back at the 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.440 Cowboys Super Bowl teams of the nineties and they had 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.320 those sames. Absolutely the key is to have enough of 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.760 a core group of players that can control of those 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.119 who might go off the reservation at times. And I 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.520 think I got to get started here, by the way. Yeah, 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.760 we are there, we go. I got a trust Rod Marinelli. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:51.520 You're ready. Hey, here we are day three before we uh, 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:59.880 before we begin today, Chicago are great fans. It looks 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:03.480 like he's about to go yachting. All of you deserve 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.520 a lot of credit for making the draft bigger and 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.600 better than ever. It's because of the passion for football 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.359 that's headed out to the cup. Thank the Mayor, We 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.360 thank all the people that make all this a reality. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.280 So thank you very much on behalf of all of 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:21.000 us in the NFL. Before we also begin, great scene 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.520 there to introduce the number one Bears fan, the chairman 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.080 of the Chicago Bears, George McCaskey. All those people for 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:37.280 rounds four, three, seven, drafts friends, hair, Wow, it's the 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.520 sun I said out the Running Bears Friands hair, Well, 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:43.800 we listened to this. What do you think about this 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.920 being here maybe next year? The team I'm excited. I 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.960 think it would be a spectacle like anything we've ever seen, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:51.560 because I think we could take our show and do 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.520 be right there in the middle of right there on 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.320 the plaza, Yeah, assuming good weather, and we can move 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:04.440 inside it stay wherever in the draft where so many 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.520 fans from all over the Midwest could come here and 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:13.160 cheer on their teams. And let's do it again here 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.840 next year. No, let's not, let's do it here next year. Yeah, 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.399 thank you, mister McCaskey. With with the excitement, with the 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.920 excitement that this has generated up in Chicago, I have 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.600 got to I've got to believe that Jerry and Stephen 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.160 Jones are salivating at the prospect of doing the draft here. Yeah. 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.520 I think so too. Yeah. And the NFL is interested 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.399 on taking it, taking it on the road, making it 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.520 a for lack of a better way to describe it, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:42.040 a traveling circus. Well, and consider this, they had, as 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.760 I mentioned the other day, over seventy nine thousand applicants 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.600 for tickets to get in there that first day of 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.800 the draft, and I think you got a venue over 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.320 there in Arlington that can handle that. I'm out, Yeah, 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.399 you don't have to turn away anybody there you go. 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:00.720 I'm just looking on the screen right now. Then they're 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:02.640 showing it. I know this is bad for what we're 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:06.520 doing on radio. But Joel Bussers, they're honoring him. I 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.000 believe this is his last draft. He was. Yeah, he's 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.800 the it was longtime director of the NFL, the player 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.719 player personnel department for the NFL. He was the guy 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.800 you always dealt with with trades. He is the guy 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.080 that told give me a jersey of forty. So it 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.200 must be forty years of doing this. So Joel Bussard 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.200 retiring from the NFL. Joel Buster was the one that 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.679 told Stephen Jones when we tried to make a trade 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.440 on the clock with the time, ever do it again, 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.840 don't ever do that again. It's Stephen Jones dove onto 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.600 the table to get Bill Jones' favorite safety, Roy Williams 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:47.480 fine from the University of Went That's right. But Joel Busser, 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:51.639 longtime NFL executive going on. You know, he wasn't a 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.080 bad safety until he ate too many biscuits. No, and 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.000 you know you might have thought about putting him up. 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.480 It's gonna happen right here in the selection square. You'll 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.120 be able to see it directly back to the commission. 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.720 We also are going to be announcing picks from each 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.399 of the thirty two teams, and round four is now 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:12.040 officially open. The Tennessee Titans are now on the clock. Yeah, 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:16.200 Tennessee funneled by New England and Oakland with the first 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.840 three picks, and of course, the Cowboys pick at number 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.080 one twenty seven, the twenty eighth pick of this fourth round. 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.639 All right, let's talk about the Cowboys and where you 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:26.920 think they might go. Of course, we don't know what's 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.440 going to be on the board at one twenty seven. 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.159 But what do you think need wise right now agonizing 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.959 weight to the end of the round? Well, I mean 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:36.680 you wrote a story about it this morning that you 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.879 can check out on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Plug. I 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:44.399 think that to me, And I'm getting opposition from my 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:49.480 plaid wearing colleague across the table from me, David Hellman. Yeah, 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.639 I was just listening tiny gym. Yeah, so we got 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.400 the camera working here, so we're doing a little we're 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.760 doing good there. But I will say this though, I 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.399 think that to me, Bryce Petty makes a lot of 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.960 sense this point in time, and I'm going to start 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.720 the journey and I'm gonna start the journey with Bryce Petty. 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:07.520 Do you think you have to trade up to get him? 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:12.560 I remember those quarterbacks all went in the first ten picks. 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.440 I am just throwing the name out there right now. 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:17.640 Do you want Bryce Petty bad enough that you're gonna 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.760 trade for him? You? I mean, I don't. I mean, 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.000 we can't move up to the early part of the 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:27.000 fourth You know what, every name that we thought might 0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:30.080 be there or we thought would be gone, has stay, 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.359 has has slid down that board. We thought Bryce Petty 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.840 would be a second round pick. Yeah, I mean exactly. 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:37.600 So it's not a we were to call him for 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:41.320 me if he if he does slip. So they it's 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.600 like Coach Marinelli, visit him with us here a little bit. 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:48.040 Get the wrong phone, grab the wrong phone, coach, somebody's phone. 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:57.400 This one's everybody's checking phones here. So I am at 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.359 a loss. Coach. You just gotta brand new. You have 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:08.120 your phone? Oh okay, okay, all right, good luck today. 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:12.919 Coach Rod Marinelli. That's the great thing about live radio, 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.639 just get random visits from legendary phone. I do have 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.960 his phone. No, she got on p Yeah you know 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.520 you know, yeah, check that text mess I think that 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.360 I can go ahead and say this, yeah, and it's 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.080 this provides the opportunity since he came in here looking 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.960 for his phone yesterday during the draft one Randy Gregory, 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.240 I'm hurt. I hear was texting him throughout the draft 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.000 leading leading up to the pig Well, you can tell 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:43.640 by what the emojis, yeah and yip he wore, he wore. 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.119 Ask people, what is it? What is this? What is 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:52.240 this smiley faced out here? Anyway, that's hilarious. Day three, Um, 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:56.240 you know, obviously Day one, Day two, the first three rounds, 0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:59.240 top one hundred picks basically that's where your fireworks are. 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.159 That's where, uh, you know a lot of the big 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.440 name players are drafted. But Day three that's when you 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:08.639 build your roster, right, that's when you find your depth. Now, 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.280 a lot of these guys that are picked today, they 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:12.920 won't cut it, but a lot of the guys that 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.080 are picked today will be the guys that round out 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.920 your roster. That when your star goes down. They have 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.560 to see the field. And you know, you look at 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.000 the Cowboys and just look at the players on that 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.720 roster who we're not taking in the top one hundred picks, 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.960 and there's quite a few, So a lot of reasons 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.920 to be paying attention to what the teams do today. 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.520 Tennessee picking right now, the pick is in. Of course 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:39.920 they've gone with Mariota, DGB and Potassi attackles. Have you 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.240 gone all offense with their first three picks. I'm not 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.080 a bad start, yeah, I kind of. I was not. 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.639 We all understand who the first two, you know, the 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.639 quarterback and the receiver. Putassi though, Dane. I thought a 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.720 guy that maybe a much better pass blocker than a 0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.840 run blocker. I thought for a big guy, had some ruining, 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.080 nice feet. You know, it's a team really trying to 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:06.920 build rebuild their offensive line, you know, so, uh you 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:08.600 know that that wasn't I thought a bad pick. So 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.840 here we go with the Titans from the Tennessee National 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.879 Guard Headquarters in Nashville. Oh you know what, I remember 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.719 him saying, they're gonna do this in the twenty fifteen 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.200 NFL Draft. The Tennessee Titans would like to welcome Captain 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:27.720 Trey Robinson from the Tennessee Air National Guard. With the 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.040 first pick of the fourth round, number one hundred overall, 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:35.320 the Tennessee Titans select Angelo Blacks and defensive tackle from Auburn. 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:39.639 Angelo Blocks A little bit of a surprise there. I 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.160 don't think he's the best defensive tackle on Auburn's team. 0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:43.960 I was gonna say, I was expecting to hear another 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:48.040 Auburn d tackle called yeah that to me when he 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.560 was not a guy. When I watched him play though, 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.760 I saw a guy that got tied up way too 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.800 much on the blocks. And and you know when when 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.040 teams were when they were handling him a lot of 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.520 single blocks. You talk about those inside guys. I'm looking 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.359 for a guy that can you know when the guard 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.760 and the center both get on you, that you're finding 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:08.680 a way to get to the ball. And I just 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.080 had a real problem with this guy overall. Even like 0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.399 you say, the single blocks were taking him out of 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:19.280 the play. I understand the size and all that and 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.080 what he is, but as far as a down after 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.480 down consistent player, I just didn't see it. And Gabe 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.879 right still available. They had their choice of either one 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.680 of those Auburn guys if they wanted him. Yeah, very 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.960 active player special teams and on defense. Had four blocked 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:38.040 kicks on special teams. So a player that he needs work, 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.640 they need to pop the hood and you know, get 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.360 in there and uh, you know, refigure some stuff there. 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:47.200 But a player that has consistent I mean, but it 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.520 just got blocked all the time, you know, you know, 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.560 I just looking at his combined numbers. That combine numbers 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.440 were slightly better than Gabe right, for whatever that's worth. Yeah, 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.520 So there's a lot of people like Gabe right more 0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.040 I like Gabe right a lot. Yeah. And New England, 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:02.920 I see is next on the clock. I'm just gonna 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.440 throw something out because I've got I've got They they 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.800 I sat, I sat with their guys at the Senior Bowl. 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.200 I sat with their scouts at the Senior Bowl. Watched 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.399 this practice and they told you the tray this is 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.960 gonna be Trey Flowers. Yeah, they have waited, they've this. 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.680 They they talk about Trey Flowers and there there's the pick. Yeah. 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.240 See that's insight you don't get anywhere else. They think 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.960 that Trey Flowers. They love the flat. The fact that 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.119 when ball was run to his side. He was not 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.639 given up that corner. So they they're very excited. They 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.160 were sitting on this pick. I thought he was gonna 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.360 be a third round pick for them, But here he is. 0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.680 Top of the Patriots have done now, taking Malcolm Brown 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.960 in the first round. In Trey Flowers here in the 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.000 fourth round is younger. Yeah, he's got a lot younger 0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.280 in that, uh for sure right there, eighty four and 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:59.520 a half. He just eats guys up. So Trey Flower, 0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.520 that was you know, that was They couldn't say enough 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.600 thing during the senior here? Did you not? I did, 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.200 because when you watched him play, he's I don't know how, 0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.640 He's always around the ball. He's always one of those 0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:15.040 guys that when the when it was snapped, he's getting 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:16.760 blocked and then all of a sudden he's there. He's 0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.920 tackle for lass, he's up the field, he gets you know, 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.959 gets plays wide, but the ball doesn't get outside of him. 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:28.280 So you know that Bielam is on NFL Network talking 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.360 about it. Yeah, and they also took Lorenzo Malden in 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.240 the third round or actually that's that was the Jets. 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.760 I'm sorry, I'm on the wrong pag Geno Grissom from Oklahoma, 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.400 my man who by the way, I think Nick Saban 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.680 gave his good friend Bill Belichick a great scouting report 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.000 on Geno Grissom because you're remember he scoring a touchdown 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.280 for my Sooners against the Crimson Tide in a Sugar Bowl. 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.440 But I digress that was his best game he probably 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.640 ever played. That's exactly right. All right, we got Oakland 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.280 on the board now with a trade. Oh hell, okay, 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.280 it looks like yeah, it looks like the Panthers are 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.400 now on d You know, we've talked about the Panthers, uh, 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:06.120 in a lot of different ways. As far as uh, 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.920 I thought safety was something that we Vince Vince visited 0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:14.800 about the other night. Uh, we see offensive lineman, so 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.480 we'll talk about the tackle. They haven't taken an offensive tackle, 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:22.080 have they in this draft. They're stubborn about that offensive tackle? Yeah? There, 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.080 but this might be an opportunity. I mean we we've 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.320 we in the pre well, we had coach, but we've 0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:33.160 talked about Darryl Williams before. We've talked about other recommendation. 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.120 I've watched him. Yeah, Clemmings with the foot, I mean, 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.160 he's gonna be mention guy. And yeah, point today, I'm like, 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.280 what's going Like this must be the worst stress fracture 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.720 of all time. I had him in the first round. Boards, 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.640 I had him in the first round, and he must 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.440 be off the boards. But but but at some point, 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:53.360 at the same thing that we're talking about with Jay 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.000 and Jai, like, at some point, aren't you just like 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.200 this is he played with it? Though he's at the 0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.200 Senior Bowl playing with it. So I don't I don't 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.920 quite know what's in But they think his foot's gonna 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.480 fall off. I don't know. Yeah, by the way, Caroline 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.400 has taken Shack Thompson in the first round and then 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.440 Devin Funchius in the second round. Okay, there you go. 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.840 So they went, they did, They stayed with they had 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.240 they needed. They had a wide receiver need and then 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.320 a linebacker need. Is a third and so they wanted 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.800 to get up and get as close to the third. 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.400 You mentioned Arryl Williams, and I think a guy that 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.960 just blocks out the sun what he does on the 0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.760 right side in the run game. Definitely a right tackle 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:31.360 right and but he's not exactly fleet of foot, but 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.440 the long arms, I mean, he's he can play in 0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.360 arms twenty seven pounds. He moves well for a three 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.400 hund and thirty pounder. I mean, he does it. So 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.160 I didn't like him. Here, I liked him. I liked 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.400 him if if he's just gonna play right tackle, but 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.560 if you're looking for a swing tackle. If something happened 0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.760 with Tyrn Smith, I didn't rike him because he could 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.720 not play the left side. He plays a grown man 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.120 version of the game. It really does. Yeah, next tone, now, 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.960 now saw our next pick. In twenty fifteen NFL Draft, 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.200 the Carolina Pounds would like to welcome PSA I Wanner 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:07.440 Christopher Stratt all right Chris. With a third pick, up 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:10.680 the fourth round, number one out two overall, the Carolina 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:15.520 Panthers select Darryl Williams. There you go, right there. See, 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.560 we've been talking about the offensive tackle. They needed a 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.600 left tackle though, I mean, but they really Michael Or 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.320 has been a guy that they've They seem to like 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.200 Michael Or a lot. And Dane, you're not too excited 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.400 about Michael must be watching his old mistape and not 0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:33.600 what he's done watching the movie. Yeah, but hey whatever, 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:35.440 we'll see what happens with that. But Darryl Williams is 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.280 a good pick here in the fourth. If you're getting 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.160 him outside the top one hundred, you like that value. 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.160 He's a plug and play type. I mean, he's ready 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.440 to go right now, line them up. It's Mike Dallas, 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:49.440 Dallas suburb. Yeah, it sounds like the Martin kid. They 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.240 signed Jonathan Martin too, didn't they? The Carolina Panthers. I 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.640 I know, I'm asking a lot of quick the Stanford 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.560 to go get my other notebook. I got all that inform. Yeah, 0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.840 but but you know, when you talk about the Panther 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.920 said you know that, it seems like to me they're 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.800 they're loading up on right tackles. Who are the left 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.800 tackles on this team? So question that will be the uh, 0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.160 that will be the trick to with Carolina. But they 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:16.520 they traded up to h from Oakland. So Carolina takes 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.640 Daryl Whims Like we talked about Oakland. Will Now, where 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.720 was that pick? I don't even see it here Oakland. 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.560 That's a twenty four. Yeah, the the Carolina pick is 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.360 right ahead of Dallas there at one twenty four. So 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.320 draft draft guru Dane, can I pick your brain for 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.600 a quick secon? We got if we're if we're thinking like, 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.920 like draft guru Bryan over here, is that the Cowboys 0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.840 might want a quarterback in the fourth round. He would 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.040 take he would take Petty. Oh Okay, that's not the 0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.040 That's not what I'm worried about. I want to know 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.760 who on this list of many teams before the Cowboys 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.520 is somebody that might be Well, the Jets just traded 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.320 up to I kind of was thinking the Jets, and 0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.280 this is where I think you have to look at quarterback. 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.760 I mean, they back to back. It's weird to me 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.760 that they would jump trade with Jackson. Well, they wanted 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.560 to get in front of the Jets at one, one 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:10.800 oh four. So who just traded with the Jets traded 0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.680 to Jacksonville to Jacksonville, so they have back to back 0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:17.120 picks one four, Okay, whatever you gotta get in front 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.120 of yourself. Yeah, you're saying that doesn't make a whole 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.160 lot of sense. Get your guy. Well, maybe I wanted 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:23.839 to get into of Washington if you want to if 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:25.919 you want to quarter players that they want. So maybe 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.000 they were afraid of another team trading quarterby that's a 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.400 good point. Okay. I don't see the Jaguars as a 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.479 threat to take a quarterback. But yeah, that's a good quarterbacks, 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.160 will be a quarterback, I think, yeah, I think that 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.560 they clearly would have to take Hundley and Pitty if 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.920 you don't be a hell I mean hard knocks to 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.520 New York, right, okay, one of them, Both of them 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.200 are on the board. Who would you take? Think what 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.239 your offensive scheme is? I think I think I think 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.680 that is fair. It depends on who better fits what 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.320 you want to do, and I think both needed a 0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.600 lot of work. Both there guys you don't want to 0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.000 see on field this year. They might not be ready 0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.880 for the field two and sixteen. Um, they you know, 0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.120 a lot of work. But at this point I do 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:12.120 think it's worth it. Despite uh, despite my reservations about 0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.200 the Cowboys taking Bryce Petty, I think I would take 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:15.800 Bryce Petty if I was a team in need of 0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.680 a quarterback, which the Cowboys aren't. So we all thought 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.040 though that a quarterback would go early. So getting Bryce 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.320 Petty at at the twenty seven was not going to 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:26.480 be an option, right, I mean I don't think so. 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.359 I mean I was being unrealistic. I put the name 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.879 out there, and I'd go back again to the draft 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:37.160 two years ago, where the Tyler Wilson's, yet Jones's, the 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.959 Nassa went to the Giants. Then all all those picks 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.080 came off the board early in the fourth round. I 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.120 know what the cowboys think, But you think either of 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.600 these guys is better than my boy, Zachy Mets, Oh, 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.560 I would take I would take Bryce Petty over Zach 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:58.719 Mett And and that's and everything Petty versus Pettenberg. Just 0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.600 as far as his ability, I just talk about mobility. 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.520 I talk about smarts, I talk about the ability to 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:10.360 be accurate. Yes, Bryce Petty, there's too many positive intangibles 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.680 there for me. I think some people missed an opportunity 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:15.880 in the in the third round. Did Nick slip you 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.200 a fifty? No? And I'm not. I'm just talking about 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.560 I watched the guy play against Michigan State, who I 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.839 think is a damn good defense, carved them up. Yeah, 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.480 and they've got they've got a first round corner. They've 0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.719 got a potential top five defensive end next year. That 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.759 is a good defense at Michigan State. It is. And 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:38.440 there's Gary Patterson's defense is really good, right, Yeah, he 0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:44.239 carve this guy when touchdowns And now, okay, West Virginia Hey, 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.680 not so good. You make a good point. You make 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.120 a good point, Brian. I'm just watching the tape and 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.800 I'm watching that. What you're doing is that? Is that 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:53.919 what you've been doing these lost Some people, some people 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:55.880 don't watch the tape and talk about this. But we 0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.359 won't go that way. And I'm not talking about you, Dave. 0:36:58.440 --> 0:36:59.920 I mean you could. I have not spent a lot 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.640 of time, but I just I just feel like though 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.320 that to me, it's just it's too too good of 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.480 a fit. It's too good of a fit right there. 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.160 So I mean, well, Dane closed the book on Geno 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.560 Smith last night. So if that's true, you gotta think 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.520 the Jets want to bring a quarterback in at some point, 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.600 and that's why they brought in Ryan Fitzpatrick, veteran presence 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.279 who can start games. Um and and Bryce Petty. It's 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:27.960 just take some time, It's see what's alrighty. We're live 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:33.040 from Atlantic Health Jets Training Center to announce our next 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.920 pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft. But you know, 0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.759 Jets would like to welcome thirty years season ticket holder 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.359 Danny Junior. It sounds like a Drumpy goss if I'm 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.400 just already kind of tired of this gimmick, like, are 0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.160 we gonna do this for every pick to can? Can 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:51.880 somebody just say it? With the fifth pick of the 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.319 fourth round, number one oh four overall, the New York 0:37:55.400 --> 0:38:01.440 Jets select Bryce Petty A three. Yeah, that's what happens 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.839 when you let an amateur up on the podium. Had 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.400 a trade, and so they have both the one h 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.479 three and one oh four. I wonder if we're gonna 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:12.000 get a situation here where Jacksonville and the Jets just 0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:16.680 flipped spots, so instead of instead of misinformation there, Yeah, 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.880 I see, I'm all kinds of confused picking back to 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.880 back or no, No, I don't believe they're picking to 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.040 pick back to back here. So I believe that you're 0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.400 gonna see it's jaguars. You're gonna see jaguars on the 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.600 clock here on earth. Tell me, tell me did they 0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.560 make Having been in that room before, why you've been 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.680 in the jackson Well, But because you think jack Well 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.839 Jacksonville was on the phone with somebody else, you worry 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:42.560 about it. You just go ahead and just say, you 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.200 know what it's willing for us, It's it's okay for us. 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.840 I don't know what they gave what the compensation, So 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.799 maybe the Jets gave Jacksonville more than the other team 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.200 that wanting to move up. Absolutely, so yeah, I would 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.480 say that they probably so this Jacksonville will be on 0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.640 the clock. In fact that one four. Okay. So so 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.160 basically what the Jets were doing is this day began, 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.120 they were in contact with all these teams making sure 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.360 that no other team was going to jump them to 0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.040 take Petty. Let me ask you this, Brian, I mean, 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.000 you wrote about him, You've kind of been stumping for Petty. 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.520 Do you feel this way about Hundley? I mean, do 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.279 you feel as good? But it's good, it's good, but 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.560 you don't like I don't think he's as accurate as 0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:29.680 Petty is. I worry and Dane correct me if I'm 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.239 wrong about this. When I watch Hunley play, I see 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.719 a guy that mechanically has you have to really work 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.000 with him. I don't see a guy that the ball 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.920 snaps off his hand. He's got the arm strength, he's 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.160 got the arm talent. But when you talk about he 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.960 throws at so many different angles and so many different 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.600 way his mechanics to me, never look the same. And 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.759 with Petty. I see the ball, I see by bull gone, 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.360 I see I see that it's the same it's that 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.080 same drop or to take a step throw. I don't 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.320 see that. I see him kind of all over the 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.920 place with his mechanics. Do you think the need for 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.080 someone to compete with Brandon Whedon is strong enough that 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.279 you're taking a quarterback anyway? Or is it all Bryce Petty? No, 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.200 it was all Bryce Petty. Now now it's about Vaughn. 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.920 Now it's about Dustin. You're just wiping quarterback off. Now. 0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.480 I think that the last the last year, the last 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.360 quarterback that I would have taken, and I and I 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.680 mocked him, but me Brian brought his personally. Bryce Petty 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.960 was my guy. Okay, And now I'm I'm now willing 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.920 to say I'm willing to walk the journey with with Dustin. 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.319 Vaugh wild thing, Vaughan baby, lace him up and let's 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.440 go and talk to me about Hunley. Then you mean 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:41.440 you could you could correct me if you want. All 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:43.680 the physical traits are there, I mean everything that you want. 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.800 That mobility, the arm strength, that the size. He's a 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.480 great kid too. Yeah, but no, you're absolutely right about 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.840 the mechanics. And just there's so much you need to do. 0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:56.200 You really need to overhaul, uh the quarterback there, and 0:40:56.280 --> 0:41:00.319 we have the Jaguars picking. Yeah, here we go round 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.799 draft pick. We are live from the Cleveland or Deck 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:07.360 at EverBank Field and beautiful Jacksonville, Florida, to announce the 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.840 next pick in this year's NFL Draft is Seth Stouter 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:15.759 from Greencast Rings, Florida. Thank you, Tony, with the one 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.760 hundred and fourth pick of the twenty fifteen NFL Draft. 0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:25.280 My Jacksonville Jaguars are proud to select James Sample Defense 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:29.160 him back. Yeah, Louisville, here you go. Good safety there. 0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.640 Absolutely like that pick a lot, right. The Sample was 0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.160 one of my guys when you were talking, probably more 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.520 of a strong safety guy than a free safety guy. 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:43.160 But his teammate Holloman, who's still on the board fourteen picks, Yeah, 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.480 you called a coward about twelve hours I did call 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.080 him a coward. And there's a reason why. Sample. You 0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.840 watch Sample play. He's standing on the right hash and 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.120 the ball goes all the way to the left side. 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:58.120 He crosses Hallaman to get to the ball and he 0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.560 makes the tackle. Is this guy? Is this guy plug 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.759 him play? I think so. And he's the guy that 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.600 you can see him playing free, you can see him 0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.360 playing strong. I mean, he can do a lot of 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.640 things for you, and it's a wicket hit or two. 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:10.880 He was a top recruit out of high school, went 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.319 to Washington that didn't quite work Outley knows a little 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.479 about safety play too, if you will recall they also 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.320 drafted Cowboys pet cat Jonathan Cyprian two years ago, so 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.759 he did. Who hasn't really been great for them. He's 0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:26.839 been okay, He's been a little up and down. I mean, 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.239 too early to throw in the towel on Cyprian, but 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.719 sample gives them some good depth and like I said, 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.279 a guy that can play free or strong. So it 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.759 gives them death at both spots. Now, Washington is on 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.040 the clock and the pick is in for the Redskins 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.520 could go a couple of different ways here, though. They 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.680 they've kind of funny the way they they I think 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.439 felt like they took in the first round. They took 0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:52.719 the Giants pick, yeah, you know, with the with the 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:57.000 Brandon Sheriff, Yeah, the Sheriff pick, which looked especially good 0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:01.640 when you consider Crowder jameson Crowdy. He was great at 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.000 the Senior Bowl. He was He's Brandon Cook's light. Washington's 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.839 not participating in the fan guess they don't they're fans 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.800 don't like it. I'm I'm on board with that, you know. 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:12.600 It's kind of like it's kind of like your thing 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.000 when we do the draft show. It's like, Hi, thank you, 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:17.359 we're great. What's your question? Like, don't ask me how 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.520 I am. Just make the pick. I love so Chicago. 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.000 This ought to be a production. Chicago is making the 0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.359 next pick. Yeah, there's no doubt they're gonna bring whoever 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.719 that is right up to the stage that. Yeah, they're 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.040 gonna have a parade for this guy. It's gonna be awesome. 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.640 So what players do you have in mind for the 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.080 Cowboys in the fourth round. Let's make a list of 0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.680 three or four that you would like to see fall 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.479 to fit a Cowboy need or also just the best 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.279 player that you could defer to the gurus. Go for Dave. 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.520 You can say, you know my answer. It's been my 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.400 answer since he was a second round pick. This is 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:52.319 my dude, and he's been my dude since probably mid February. Right, 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.920 Who is that Jagie? Yeah? I and you know he's 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.319 got the knee issue. It's bone on bone. You don't 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.080 know how long he's gonna play, and I just don't 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:07.680 care because he's healthy. Right now, here's Chicago, all right, 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:12.440 here we go, abarras fans. What the seventh pick in 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:17.240 the fourth round? Number one oh six overall? The Chicago 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:23.120 Bears have selected Jeremy Langford, running back, ran back off 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.760 the board. That's a guy. A lot of Cowboys fans 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:27.920 have had an eye on that guy. I think I 0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.120 build an answer questions. Dave's right about a gie. I 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.160 think you have to look at potentially we had Rod 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.600 Marinellian here early. Does Michael Bennett fit that tech at 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:42.919 one technique three technique player with some flexibility right there? Shaw? 0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:45.719 I know they drafted a corner in the first round, 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.480 but do they go back? Josh Shaw again wrote about it. 0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.160 I wouldn't be surprised at all if they double up 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.840 on corner in the I agree, and I'd like I 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.799 like Shaw as a pick. Nuna's Roaches was a guy 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:59.920 that you asked a question about about the inside the town, 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.400 right and Hayden and so forth. Grady Jared's been a 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.560 guy that I've liked exactly. Grady Jared it's still available now. 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.600 They take from Marinelli's answer on that as far as 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.040 their need at that, I feel like that he would 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.799 take whoever they He would coach whoever they put out 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.880 there for him to coach. But uh, you know, I 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.120 didn't get to I know they like Nick Hayon a lot. 0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.719 But I also know talking to some guys talking to 0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:27.080 some coaches, that they would like to to potentially upgrade 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.560 and Atlanta's pick is going to be in But I'd 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.920 like to believe that they would like to get They 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.960 liked Terrell McClain a lot, but would they would they 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:40.799 also though, consider though, trying to get another young guy 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:44.640 in there that has some sideline to sideline ability. And 0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:48.080 you know I don't have a Bennett. You watch him 0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.120 in the National Championship game. You know this guy is 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:55.000 there was some some a little bit of underachieving tendencies. 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.280 Am I write there Dane about him? But the conversation, 0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.320 but justin Hardy is the pick of it land of 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:03.360 the wide all time leading receiver and FBS history the 0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:08.040 most catches. But no, You're right about Michael Bennett over 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:12.759 the first ten games of Ohio States schedule. Really underachieved, 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.720 but down the stretch he was outstanding against Wisconsin, against 0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.920 against Alabama, he was He's one of the stars for 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.799 that Buckey's defense. But there is some up and down 0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:25.680 play and there are some questions about where do you 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.400 play him. To me, I thought he was a three technique, 0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.240 but I think some other teams disagree in the cmore 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:32.960 as a one or a nose. Well, again, it's the 0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.719 flexibility we've talked about. If the guy, if Dane sees 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.680 the guys a three, you know, there's some teams and 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:40.839 he's right. Some guys I've talked to thought he could 0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.440 play the one. So if that's the case, if you 0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.000 got a guy that's got that kind of ability and 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:50.279 played big time football in some big time games at 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.520 the end of the season and was productive, I think 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.600 you have to consider that. Let me ask you this. 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.799 I feel like this is a great debate for where 0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.440 the Cowboys are right now. You've got guys on the 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.120 roster who can play defensive tackle, but you feel like 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.680 you could upgrade the position. You got guys on the 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:06.480 roster who play running back, but you feel like you 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.200 could upgrade the position. So what do you mean, what's 0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.520 the bigger what's the need that you feel better about 0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:13.840 addressing with one of these things? To me? It to 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.879 me if if I know all bets, it's all bets, Rof. 0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:20.840 They should take the runner. I agree they should. They 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.520 should take just a simpleton though, Yeah, I just kid. 0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:26.520 The kid is from here, you know, I mean it 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.200 could be here, and I know, I know it's a 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.640 great story, but the kid is a damn good football player. 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:35.280 He is a damn good football players. Knees healthy, playing 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.760 the third or fourth running back off the board, there's 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.879 no doubt. And Dane took a lot of crap when 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:45.360 he said that there's teams concerned about the knee, and 0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:48.080 he and his agent reached out, and he's and and 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.080 and you know what, the guys is locked in. He 0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.800 knew exactly what he's talking about. But right now, in 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.080 the fourth round, if he's still on the board, you've 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.640 got to take him right talk about getting Randy Gregory 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.120 at sixty. I mean, this should have been a top 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.319 fifty or sixty pick. There's no doubt about it. I mean, 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.799 you you if you're and I've said this so much, 0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.240 but then again, we've been doing this for six hours 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:12.239 a day. If you're if you're gonna use a guy, 0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:15.560 take a runner for four years or five years and 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.759 just go Yeah, fullback is off the board. Oh the 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:24.279 Alabama Tennessee, Tennessee still hit you? So India Indianapolis is 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:27.640 on the clock thinking of blocking, getting some blocking first, 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:31.000 Bishop Sanky. Yeah. But to finish up my point there, 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.400 you know, if he's on that board, you've got it. 0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.319 You've got to do that, don't I mean, Okay, let 0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.879 me ask you this. It sound like I'm begging. You're 0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.640 at the bottom of the fourth round. Do you trade 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:46.719 up for a guy whose health you can't guarantee? Or 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:48.680 you just let him fall to you? And what happens? 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:50.879 I just got to assume that he's fallen this far, 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:56.239 you think. But I mean that there's twenty other teams 0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.480 that are maybe thinking the same way, because maybe twenty 0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.560 other teams that have him off the board, right, that's 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:02.960 a thing. And and every team that maybe needed a 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.240 running back took it running back earlier in the draft. 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.319 That's true. I mean that a lot of those I mean, 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.239 Atlanta was a team that you're not worried about them 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:11.759 taking a running That's what I was trying to think 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.840 there any other of those who with key running. Atlanta 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:23.080 addressed it, Cleveland addressed it, Yeah, Arizona. Miami hasn't addressed it. Detroit, Detroit. Yeah, 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.760 I'm kind of leary about this number. This this so Miami. 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.080 I think Miami traded out of that pick. Actually, I mean, 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:33.919 what's in Indianapolis doing here? They could use a runner 0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.239 or maybe Miami still has Miami still has it at 0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:39.719 one fourteen, I could see Indianapolis here. That's another I 0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.279 think Indianapolis goes defense here. I have a hard I 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.600 just have a hard time believing Jayagi. He's sitting there 0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.640 at one twenty seven. We're at one o nine. We 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:48.759 sat there and we thought a lot of guys were 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.160 gonna be But see, we feel good about it here. 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.560 And now I got to imagine there's two or three 0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:55.480 other teams that feel the same way. That's I mean, 0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:58.120 that's Colts could use Colts could use a quarner. The 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.239 pick is in for the Colts. Yeah, they could use 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.040 they could use a corner here. But yeah, you're right 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:07.040 about the running. Yeah, maybe another one. Yeah, I mean 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:10.360 that that's a defense. We saw firsthand, that defense. Remember 0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:13.840 how how when that defense didn't have the corners. It 0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.320 was a little, oh my gosh, a little shaky that 0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:20.239 that was the Cowboys just owned them. For lack of 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.440 a better term, I think they're gonna take a defensive 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.320 player here myself, but I to get back to to 0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:30.040 I think you're willing to gamble because of the potential 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:33.600 of a lot of teams having him completely off the board. Okay, 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:39.880 here's the Colts pick, Kobe Flainer test. Yeah, this is 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:46.080 just the worst Kobe Fliner making the pick here. Okay, 0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:52.239 go ahead, Kobe. Yeah, you're Stanford grad. All right. He's 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:57.080 waiting for a queue apparently selection on location in Indianapolis 0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:02.520 to announce a pick in a twenty fifteen NFL draft, 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.600 the Indianapolis Colts would like to welcome eighteen year season 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:16.319 ticket holder Roger Banner. So what we going, Bush? Yeah, 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.520 what you're there for? With the tenth pick of the 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:23.160 fourth round, number one hundred and nine overall, my Indianapolis 0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:28.480 Colts select Clayton Gathers, defensive back University of Central Florida. 0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:36.560 Clayton Gathers Central Florida A good player. He'll hit you. 0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.680 He's a strong safety, really physical player, and he was 0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.480 at the Senior Bowl. Did a nice job there, a 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.200 four year starter. A lot to like about this player, 0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:49.840 you know, that's what those kids said. They've done a 0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:53.440 really nice job at Central Florida. Yeah, putting players in 0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:56.560 this league and Georgia O'Leary. I mean, maybe those kids 0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.040 don't get to go to Florida State or Florida, but 0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.600 it seemed like original Leary and those guys that put 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.959 a lot of guys. I know, Blake Bortles, the jury 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:07.040 is still out of him. I think I think world 0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:08.960 will be fine. I bet they play with an edge though. 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.239 You think about there, Oh yeah, I mean three big 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:14.920 college football programs in Florida. You're probably feeling kind of 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.759 undervalued if you wind up playing for UCF. Yeah. I 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:21.400 totally agree with you on that. Sixteen picks away from 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:25.200 the Cowboys pick a well, actually we're seventeen picks away 0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.000 one twenty seven the Cowboys pick one way right now. 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:31.400 We've been talking about how at some point TJ. Clemmings 0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:35.000 is Yeah, it's another one to me in Minnesota. Yeah, 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:37.319 Minnesota is on the clock. We've been talking about Jaii 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.160 at some point he's worth it. Well, here it is too. 0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.800 It looks like that Minnesota is in, here we go. 0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.640 We are live from the Vikings News Stadium Preview Center 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.280 to announce the next pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft. 0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:53.920 The Minnesota Vikings would like to welcome Leslie Singer, one 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:57.000 of the nine fifty dedicated workers currently on site. It's 0:52:57.000 --> 0:53:03.040 going to help build the iconic new Vikings Stadium. With 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.480 the eleventh pick of the fourth round, number one tenth 0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:12.160 overall in Minnesota, Vikings select t J. Clemings. Yeah. At 0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:14.560 some point, you know, it's just you take a gamble. 0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:17.000 Dane kind of knows what he's talking about sometimes, So 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.840 who is it? Get lucky you see? Tell us about Clemmings. 0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.400 As far as left tackle, right tackle? What is he? 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.080 He's only played right tackle, so I think that's the 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:30.040 most comfortable Holts replacement. Yeah. Conceivably he could play some 0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:33.439 guard too, So I think the Vikings need a left guard. 0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:36.760 He could potentially fight for that starting job right away, 0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:39.960 and then right tackle could be his long term future. Um, 0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:42.080 but I think most people know his background was a 0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:45.400 defensive player. His entire life was actually a basketball player. 0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:49.160 Went went to football, started on defense and then his 0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.120 uh the bowl game his sophomore season so late in 0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:54.600 a sophomore season, moved to tackle. Then the last two 0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:56.880 years you just saw him get better if every game, Um, 0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:59.719 he's just so physical with his hands, he just a 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:03.600 uses defenders. Now, he does have some lower body stiffness, 0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.160 and there's some things you worry about. He was exposed 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.239 at the Senior Bowl a little bit. I think that's 0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:10.719 where teams are really soured on him. But the reason 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.840 he's still available in the fourth round is that stress 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.440 stress fracture in the foot, and we'll have to see 0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:18.440 how that plays out. This could end up being a 0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:21.279 steal for the Vike. I'm torn between whether I think 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.719 they just got away with highway robbery or if there's 0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:26.400 something terribly wrong with this guy. That's the reason why 0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:29.480 you I mean falling, if you're if you're considered a 0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.799 late first round talent and you fall. I had him 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:33.720 in the first round, I had him in my top fifty. 0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:36.440 I mean the fourth round a round though, you'll take 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:41.120 go ahead and take the medical work Cowboys get with 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:44.200 Chris Canty ten years ago. Right, we're talking about a guy. 0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:48.160 We're talking about a draft excuse me, where someone who 0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:51.279 tore his ACL three months ago went twenty one overall. Yeah, 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.200 So it's I mean, and I mean a cl has 0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.439 come so far in the last ten or fifteen years. 0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:58.560 It's just I mean, you would I mean, when you 0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:01.799 hear stress fracture, you think, oh, he'll be fine by September, 0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:03.760 you know, I mean that's what I think. Yeah, because 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:06.480 they throw another name out there, speaking of medicals, then 0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:11.200 Efo ekpre Olamo, the cornerback from Oregon in his ACL 0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:15.160 that was preparing for the Rose Bowl. He if had 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:17.720 he not been hurt, he'd be perhaps a first rounder, 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:19.960 he'd be off the board bind now right, and so 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:24.279 have you what have you heard about the severity of 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:27.799 his knee injury? And is he somebody that you would 0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:29.960 go ahead and take a flyer on here in the 0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.560 fourth Now I've heard it's not good. Yeah, it's uh, 0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:35.080 it's it's not your typical Yea. That's the thing I 0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.279 think fans, you know, we hear about the ACL. We well, 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:39.319 Girly had the ACL in November. He was a top 0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:43.360 ten pick. Well, all these all these injuries exactly, they're different. 0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:47.279 There's different tears, different rehab. Every knee responds differently, and 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:50.040 so with Efo you have a player that you just 0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:52.080 hate to see it. He was healthy his entire career 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:56.640 and then the practice before the Rose Bowl damages that 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:58.719 knee and you just worry about when he'll be able 0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:01.080 to help you out in the field. Is it susceptible 0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:05.160 to another injury? So for efek Parolamu, we might hear 0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:08.200 his name later today, but I'm worried about for just 0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.239 for him, how many teams actually have him on the board. Yeah, 0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:14.680 if he's not picked, especially in these middle rounds, it 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.440 shows that, Okay, there's not a good medical on him. 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.120 Trade Jackson is the pick of New England. Here offensive 0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.560 guard Florida State. Yeah, before I get to trade Jackson, 0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:24.680 which just from a mind everybody, we've got the you 0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:28.560 could see we're being on camera right now. We will 0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:32.000 go to war room cam as soon as they determine 0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:35.319 that they're ready for us to participate, for us to look, 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:37.560 they say, for us, they're probably talking about some things. 0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:40.280 Are watching these names come down the board. They're actually 0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:44.560 brawling there. Yeah, they're just blood blood being shed. But yeah, 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.640 as soon as the cowboys feel comfortable, they'll flip that 0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:51.240 cover and we'll go into war room cam. But trade 0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:53.800 trade Jackson. Pick I like to pick for New England. 0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.600 Right there, you talk about a tough brawler, brawler. And 0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.920 then right behind him though another one, Washington takes a 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:07.120 Quando from from Alabama, the older brothers. Yeah, Quanji who 0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.880 was a second rounder last year to the Buffalo Bills. Uh. 0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:13.040 He also had some knee issues. Something in the Quanjo 0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:16.800 family running through the family. But a good player started 0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.680 more than a few years for Nick Saban squad down 0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:22.840 there in Tuscaloosa. Uh. He's a player you can see 0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.959 making an impact right away. So I think that maybe 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:29.520 tells you they do intend playing sheriff outside taking a 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.720 guard in the fourth Well, we knew they were they were. 0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:34.720 We knew that they would have to do something with 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.040 the offensive line. Yeah. I mean that's something that when 0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:39.960 we when when they went on the clock at five. Yeah, 0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:42.440 we we thought about all the different potential players they 0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:45.720 could take defensively, and it was like, no, their offensive 0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:47.920 line is horrible. All right, let me ask you this now, 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.120 looking back at what they did in the second round, 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.640 they took Preston Smith with a thirty eighth overall. Pick 0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:56.440 I forgot about that. So Washington could have taken Leonard 0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:59.560 Williams at number five comeback with a guard in the 0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.840 second round. AJ can whoever right be? What do you 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:04.880 what do you make of what their decision to go 0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:07.120 ahead and go with Shurff first and then come back 0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:10.120 with Preston Smith essentially the same position as Leonard Williams. 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:12.560 I had suff Id Surff as a guard. I didn't 0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:16.240 have him as a tackle, and now they're thinking different. Yeah, 0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:18.080 and now they're thinking about playing him at right tackle 0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:21.960 is what they're thinking about doing. So you know, I, Hey, 0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:25.160 that's people see these players differently. I would not have played, 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:27.200 sure if at right tackle, but I think it's on 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.520 the talent of a Leonard Williams. Yeah. But what's the 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:33.160 difference between Leonard Williams and Preston Smith? Oh? A lot, 0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.960 I mean a lot. That's where I'm thinking. But it's 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.040 but let me ask you this is is Preston Smith 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.520 a better fit into three four? I know the Jets 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.640 took Leonard Williams. You know it's a three fourth scheme. 0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:47.840 Where do you I don't see Preston's I just like 0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:49.560 I don't really know they took Preston Smith to play 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:52.000 outside linebacker. I don't really see they listed him if 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.959 remembers an outside linebacker in my mind, and you guys 0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.600 are the gurus, you correct me if I'm wrong. Keep 0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:00.360 saying that, but keep going. Preston Smith's sounds like a 0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:03.640 better fit for Dallas, and Randy Gregory sounds like a 0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:06.040 better fit for Washington. If you're just looking at scheme, 0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:09.640 Yeah no, unless you're you're projecting Preston Smith to be 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.680 a defensive five technique, which I mean that I would. Well, 0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.120 that's a good point, but it sounds like they expected 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.760 to play linebacker, right, Well, they listed him as a linebacker, 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:20.920 and usually when you know he in my evaluation him 0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:23.480 was always and we talked about on the Draft show, 0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:26.160 butch a guy that could play defensive in and kick 0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:31.040 inside to play a Yeah yeah, Nicol Rusher. Yeah maybe. 0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:33.320 I mean, I mean, in this day and age, though, 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.160 it almost I mean, it's so flexible and so fluid. 0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:38.920 I mean, you see teams put different guys, you know, 0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:41.040 you have some teams will have like two guys with 0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:42.560 a hand on the ground on a given play. You know. 0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:45.640 So flexibility I feel like is at an all time 0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:48.960 high in the NFL defenses. But it is certainly puzzling 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:50.960 to me. Troit is on the clock. This pick has 0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:57.720 been traded numerous times. Number one thirteen. Yes, uh, they 0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:00.200 do you have bill? Who they went, who they got 1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:06.280 to before? I'm talking Detroit detroitson a guard in the first, 1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:09.080 Afdulah in the second, Alex Carter cornerback in the third. 1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:11.720 They haven't addressed the defensive line position. Oh there we go, 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.680 Gay right. Yeah, I was trying to think about Yeah, 1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:17.240 that guy, that's a shame. Yeah. I was up and 1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:20.440 down on Gay right. Yeah, both those Auburn heap was 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.160 up and down. Yeah, both those all those Auburn defensive 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:26.240 tackles in my book. You know, I'm thinking, Okay, you 1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:29.080 look pretty out there running around. Do something. He kicked 1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:31.280 some guys butts at the Senior Bowl. That's really I 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:34.640 mean that, that's your experience. Yeah, gabright was a a 1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:37.120 top recruit and he never really lived up to that hype. 1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:39.360 But you saw the flashes, and I think that's why 1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:40.920 you take him here in the fourth round. You want 1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:45.480 to you hopefully get those flashes, turn that into consistency. Okay, 1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:47.840 my auntie's up now, and might it be a running 1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:52.560 back running trouble spot. That's what you gotta worry about 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:55.600 right here with the running back for sure. So I mean, 1:00:55.640 --> 1:00:57.960 and you know, we were having this conversation last night 1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:00.280 and the night before that we thought they were you know, 1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:02.400 if the Rams hadn't taken Gurley at ten, you think 1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:05.680 maybe Gurley goes at fourteen to Miami. Thought Tevin Coleman 1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:08.280 and Duke Johnson might be targets down there. Duke Johnson 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:09.880 would have been great for them, he wouldn't have had 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:13.160 to move, but any and then back to back Cleveland 1:01:13.200 --> 1:01:16.280 picks coming up here. It is. It is interesting. And 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:18.320 like you said, Brian, I mean, you know, a Gie's 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:20.360 definitely a guy that comes to mind, But you don't 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:22.800 know how different teams treating, you know, view that injury, 1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:24.720 whether they think it's something worth taking a risk on, 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:28.040 whether he's off the board entirely. I just think that 1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:31.600 if you're the Cowboys, you've you've made your bed. Now, yeah, 1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:34.480 you've you've you've made your bed. It's I want JAYGII 1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:36.200 to be on this team. I'll just be on. I 1:01:36.320 --> 1:01:37.840 want that to happen. But I don't know if you 1:01:37.960 --> 1:01:41.160 trade up the other much you consider as far as 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:44.680 a running back goes would be Baltimore at one twenty two. 1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:48.600 It's Pesky Ravens. I feel like I've been scaring me 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:51.400 all draft weekends sitting up there, and we've seen something 1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:53.800 though here. It's kind of also pick at one twenty five, 1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:56.520 go ahead, it's we've seen something here though, a little 1:01:56.520 --> 1:01:58.800 bit of run at guards. If you look at the 1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:01.240 if you look at the guard. You know people we 1:02:01.280 --> 1:02:03.640 always talk about, well traditionally you don't take guards, but 1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:09.040 here are people using fourth round picks. Uh, Trey Jackson, Quanjo. 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:11.880 Three of the last four picks have been no line. Yeah. 1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:14.280 So I mean it's it's smart from the standpoint that 1:02:14.840 --> 1:02:19.160 typically third round is an eventual starter. Fourth round. I mean, 1:02:19.280 --> 1:02:21.360 what's the mindset maybe if you get to take a 1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:24.640 guard in the fourth round and ken, Yes, so we 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:27.320 got four room camp Kent Garrison's gonna flip it over. 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:31.440 So everybody dressed down for Saturday except Jason Garrett. He's 1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:34.360 still gonna tie on, still rocking the tie. Yeah. Well, 1:02:34.880 --> 1:02:37.920 and you know it's, uh, this is important though. This 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:41.400 is a Jamil Douglas is the pick of mother guard. Yeah, 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:44.760 another guard. They list him as a tackle. He was 1:02:44.800 --> 1:02:46.480 a guard most of his career. Moved out the left 1:02:46.520 --> 1:02:48.760 tackle as a senior, but I think he's his futures 1:02:48.800 --> 1:02:52.680 in an inside and guard. Yeah. That was a guy 1:02:52.720 --> 1:02:55.760 again too that I felt like that anything in space 1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:58.720 was problematic for him. And that's why you talk about 1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:02.040 playing him inside. He needs play inside close quarters. That's 1:03:02.080 --> 1:03:05.200 his best. Best At the next level, where this cat 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:09.480 play college football? Arizona State Sun Devils. Yeah, Lauren Socle's 1:03:09.520 --> 1:03:15.240 favorite team. As we look in the now, she's given 1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:21.160 you that you're the number one sign. She has a 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:27.479 hearty laugh at not thumbs up. Not ab uh, Dane, 1:03:27.560 --> 1:03:30.720 you've been This pick belongs to Cleveland one fifteen. You've 1:03:30.760 --> 1:03:34.360 been there all day long with Cleveland. Do we start 1:03:34.440 --> 1:03:37.960 talking about quarterback? They were interested in Bryce Petty. You 1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:40.840 tell me, yeah, you haven't missed it. Tell me well, 1:03:40.920 --> 1:03:42.880 I mean Brett Hundley is a player. They've done some 1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:46.400 work on UM and with two picks here, it wouldn't 1:03:46.400 --> 1:03:48.160 be surprised if one of these is a quarterback. But 1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:52.120 they need a receiver too. They've avoided the receiver position. 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:54.000 We thought they could go receiver in the first round. 1:03:54.440 --> 1:03:56.800 UM have not taken receiver yet, and they've loved their 1:03:56.880 --> 1:04:00.280 draft side. Yeah, they've had five picks. They've taken Danny Shon, 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:04.120 cam Irving, Nate Orchard, Duke Johnson, and Xavi your Cooper. Yeah, 1:04:04.720 --> 1:04:06.600 pretty solid. You feel like all those guys are any 1:04:06.640 --> 1:04:08.600 more defense? You feel like a defense there? Yea. How 1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:13.640 do you like your secondary corner? Yeah? But safety, safety, corner, 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:17.000 safety either one? Interesting? I don't know. I mean it's 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:19.680 they went high last year with Justin Gilbert in the 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:23.240 first round. Ten. Yeah, yeah, safety is a position. I 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:25.760 would not be shocked if they go here because the 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:29.360 free safety Gibson uh has a knee injury. They don't 1:04:29.400 --> 1:04:33.520 know long term what's his future? Looking like, safety's a possibility. 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:35.680 I think the best player on the board right now 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:40.760 is Amos Grady Jarrett versatility with with Amos, a player 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:44.760 that played corner played safety. Yeah, I mean, I'm how 1:04:44.760 --> 1:04:47.280 about the Smith kid? Maybe, and we were talking about safeties, 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:49.040 but I mean, I I don't know. I don't know 1:04:49.160 --> 1:04:51.080 that Grady Jared fits with the brow. No, I'm not 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:54.360 saying for Cleveland. I'm saying Bills. Bill's being a Dallas 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:57.560 cowboy homer. Right now, we're trying to work the guys, 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:00.760 the scouts are working the draft, talk about the draft. 1:05:00.840 --> 1:05:02.880 Me and Bill are just gonna be like, what's going on? 1:05:03.080 --> 1:05:05.120 They trying to move up the board. I'm trying to 1:05:05.160 --> 1:05:06.800 get a damn Do you know Atkins went in the 1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:11.320 fourth round? We got Geno Atkins sitting on the board 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:14.000 here in the fourth round and Grady Jarrett and uh 1:05:14.200 --> 1:05:17.120 but just setting the scene there. Yeah, you talked about 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:21.960 the corner, I mean linebacker, maybe Browns. The Browns could 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:24.120 go anywhere here. They need help in a lot of space, 1:05:24.400 --> 1:05:26.400 a lot of area. But you're saying, you're thinking maybe 1:05:26.880 --> 1:05:29.920 right now, are you acting dumb? He knows, No, not 1:05:30.000 --> 1:05:31.480 at all. He knows. I don't know how to do. 1:05:32.840 --> 1:05:36.920 He knows. The problem is when you keep hitting their picks, 1:05:37.520 --> 1:05:40.240 get asked a lot of questions. This guy, yeah, this guy, 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:42.400 So this is gonna be a player yea, yeah, this 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:45.560 is the long snapper. With Manzel at quarterback, they'll need 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:48.640 a lot of Yeah, they'll need a good punner. But actually, 1:05:48.680 --> 1:05:51.040 if they turned the ball over, maybe nothing. May not 1:05:51.120 --> 1:05:52.800 need a punter at all. With man Zella. But she 1:05:52.880 --> 1:05:55.560 did talk about receiver there though. I mean a kid 1:05:55.680 --> 1:05:59.200 like Green Green, my boy, mcbron, Oh, here we go. 1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:04.200 Oh good that. Uh have a coach on NFL network 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:08.120 right now who can talk about Campbell. Campbell to me, 1:06:08.880 --> 1:06:12.080 Campbell was the Landing Collins of the Big Ten, A 1:06:12.160 --> 1:06:15.720 physical strong safety. Uh, he'll hit you now in coverage. 1:06:16.240 --> 1:06:18.680 I you know, good luck. I don't think he's gonna 1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:20.439 be able to hold up. I always saw him around 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:22.880 the line of scrimmage again, and they tried to play 1:06:22.960 --> 1:06:26.480 him back and it took him forever to get to 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:28.720 the linshoot. But he will come for I mean when 1:06:28.760 --> 1:06:31.600 stuff's underneath, he seems to be real fine, right, But 1:06:31.720 --> 1:06:34.400 anything there was to see it, right, Yeah, when when 1:06:34.440 --> 1:06:37.160 the ball is going over the top or or he 1:06:37.360 --> 1:06:39.919 has to help on the outside, I really didn't see. 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:42.040 I see he's more of a strong safety kind of 1:06:42.120 --> 1:06:45.680 a player myself. No, I think you pegged him exactly right. 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:48.280 That's what's what he is. Now. You love the character 1:06:48.400 --> 1:06:51.920 with the player. Um, the resumes outstanding. He did miss 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:53.680 a few games as a senior with an injury, but 1:06:54.560 --> 1:06:56.880 a player that there's so much alike about him. Uh, 1:06:57.120 --> 1:06:59.560 he's gonna be a solid special teams guy. And then 1:06:59.680 --> 1:07:02.520 event you see him working into the starting lineup, probably 1:07:02.560 --> 1:07:04.560 not in year one, but by year two he'll be 1:07:04.680 --> 1:07:06.880 competing for a starting job. All right, do you take 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:11.720 Brett Huntley here? And if you're taking who might be? 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:15.760 He was on the blockhold back to back pick. I 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:21.280 was gonna say, if you took the quarterback after the safety, yeah, 1:07:21.320 --> 1:07:23.800 you would think if you're a quarterback, you're gonna take 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:26.960 him first. Get our guy. It looks like they flipped 1:07:27.000 --> 1:07:30.840 it here. Yeah, arizonas on the Arizona's on the clock. 1:07:31.120 --> 1:07:34.400 I can't keep up with any of this stuff. Arizona 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:36.440 is now on the clock. Arizona took their running back 1:07:36.520 --> 1:07:41.040 last night, so not really Arizona. Yeah, let's see, there's 1:07:41.080 --> 1:07:44.200 a good Arizona's from. I mean he's from Arizona. Here's 1:07:44.240 --> 1:07:50.280 the Browns, Cleveland Browns of Eaton, Eaton, gonna go Browns 1:07:50.320 --> 1:07:53.479 fans for the sixteenth pick of the fourth round, number 1:07:53.480 --> 1:07:57.000 one hundred and fifteen overall to Cleveland Browns select Abraham Campbell, 1:07:57.160 --> 1:08:00.480 defensive back from Northwestern. We think of those new uniforms. 1:08:00.800 --> 1:08:02.880 I don't know. I'm not digging him. I don't know how. 1:08:02.960 --> 1:08:04.960 I don't like the word. I don't like Cleveland on 1:08:05.000 --> 1:08:08.040 this chest. It's the only only Jersey that has such 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:12.600 a very collegiate it's different. It is different. It's it's 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:15.960 not it's not terrible when it when it came out 1:08:16.000 --> 1:08:19.400 a couple of weeks ago, I like, Um, I like 1:08:19.520 --> 1:08:22.160 the all white one by the way, as Arizona is 1:08:22.200 --> 1:08:24.320 on the clock, and they took David Johnson and running 1:08:24.360 --> 1:08:26.920 back from northern Iowa, and that's iron round. I love 1:08:27.040 --> 1:08:33.599 David john That might be the first who's that state? 1:08:33.840 --> 1:08:37.080 Delaware State A player that really moved up as the 1:08:37.320 --> 1:08:40.960 process went along. Uh, the Chiefs, I know, shut showed 1:08:40.960 --> 1:08:43.479 a lot of interest in him. Um, and the Cardinals 1:08:43.520 --> 1:08:45.800 actually moving up to get him. Interesting for like half 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:49.000 a second, I thought Dane was stumped, and then well 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:50.920 he's a player I looked at. But I didn't write 1:08:51.000 --> 1:08:53.600 him up because I wasn't. I didn't necessarily see a 1:08:53.680 --> 1:08:56.880 guy he's got to be a defense. Yeah, he's not 1:08:57.040 --> 1:08:59.760 looking at more of a five technique here. Yeah. But 1:09:00.200 --> 1:09:02.799 he worked out really well, moved up throughout the process, 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:05.200 and so a little surprised to see him here this 1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:08.240 early in the fourth But I did think he would 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:10.600 get drafted because his name just kept popping up the 1:09:10.680 --> 1:09:13.880 last few weeks. By the way on Arizona and picking 1:09:14.000 --> 1:09:16.160 David Johnson in the third round yesterday. Of course it 1:09:16.280 --> 1:09:18.639 was five picks ahead of the Cowboys pick at ninety one. 1:09:18.800 --> 1:09:22.120 I did get some intelligence here, A source tells me 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:25.240 he was in consideration for the Cowboys at ninety one 1:09:25.280 --> 1:09:29.000 and the coaches loved him. Who's that David Johnson? I 1:09:29.800 --> 1:09:32.400 think I think that if him or Duke Johnson had 1:09:32.439 --> 1:09:34.160 still been there when they picked, I think they might 1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:37.479 have gone that direction. Hard to argue with getting Ah, well, 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:39.519 that's the other thing. And today we haven't talked about 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:43.880 Chads green who didn't see last night, Poor Chaz green Man. 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:49.519 You know, just nobody is gonna be all right, no starter, 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:52.120 I like, I like to pick a lot. But the 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:56.400 excitement and the controversy not controversy, but there was a pick. 1:09:56.640 --> 1:10:00.160 The interest around the Randy Gregory pick definitely overshadowed an 1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:03.439 offensive line. Oh there's a tight end. Yeah. The Bell, 1:10:04.120 --> 1:10:08.400 the Bell Doozer is headed to San Francisco, Francisco. I 1:10:08.520 --> 1:10:13.240 gotta my uh my daughter is like best friends with 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:15.840 Blake Bell's girlfriends. I've got to pause for a moment 1:10:15.960 --> 1:10:19.120 and send a text, send a text message. Get He joins, 1:10:19.200 --> 1:10:21.960 Trey Millard, by the way, former Oklahoma fullback on the 1:10:22.000 --> 1:10:24.760 San Francisco roster. Good friend and build those all where 1:10:24.800 --> 1:10:27.000 all the OU players are. You can ask him any 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:29.160 OU players, He'll tell you what NFL team they're pight. 1:10:29.240 --> 1:10:31.759 So I need to go ahead and send these texts. 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:36.120 So yeah, but talk talk about though. Again, he's a 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:38.759 big guy, though, but he's got a lot of athletic ability. 1:10:38.760 --> 1:10:41.479 As far as I saw him catching the ball pretty well. 1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:46.160 He's a working progress. Yeah, he's a project. And there's 1:10:46.200 --> 1:10:48.840 some some talented tight ends on the on the board 1:10:48.880 --> 1:10:52.120 with Jesse James, Michael pruittt Ben Koy. Yeah, I really 1:10:52.160 --> 1:10:55.920 liked Sack. There's some talented guys. So but the forty 1:10:56.000 --> 1:10:58.880 nine ers jumped those guys to take the project and 1:10:59.080 --> 1:11:01.120 it might pay off. For Blake. Bell was a highly 1:11:01.200 --> 1:11:04.280 recruited quarterback and you know what, he just couldn't find 1:11:04.360 --> 1:11:07.120 the field except for those bulldozer packages where he would 1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:09.840 run over guys not use his arm. He went to 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:11.920 the coaches and said, hey, I want to see the field. 1:11:12.200 --> 1:11:15.200 Let's try me at tight end. Great makeup and so right, yeah, 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:18.040 he wants he knew for his long term future and 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:20.599 to find the field. He probably had chan he's got 1:11:20.720 --> 1:11:22.519 I think he's got a chance to make it as 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:24.760 a tight end in this league age, and he's the 1:11:24.880 --> 1:11:27.479 son of a former NFL player. He can he play 1:11:27.560 --> 1:11:31.680 in line though, I mean problem one of the scouts here, 1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:36.080 that's the problem is his ability to block in ace. 1:11:36.439 --> 1:11:39.400 But he's got the frame. He's six six. Let me 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:41.200 and and thank you for bringing that up, Bill, because 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:43.080 that's what I'm curious about. Am I thinking? Am I 1:11:43.200 --> 1:11:46.320 thinking too collegiately here to think this is a guy 1:11:46.360 --> 1:11:49.000 who's got experience taken the snap? I mean, did you 1:11:49.200 --> 1:11:51.200 I mean goal line running back. I know his position 1:11:51.200 --> 1:11:54.360 would be tight end. This is a guy yeah, I 1:11:54.400 --> 1:11:57.120 mean camp. I mean I would put if you're on 1:11:57.200 --> 1:11:59.120 the one, I would send in the jumbo and just 1:11:59.240 --> 1:12:06.439 put this guy in shotgun and have him. Teams finally 1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:10.360 figured it was direct snap and go, and then teams 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:12.120 started saying, well, we're not gonna let you do that. 1:12:13.320 --> 1:12:16.559 Team than it was him doing anything and out his scheme. 1:12:16.640 --> 1:12:19.720 Then it was I would just I would have to 1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:22.040 give that guy a shot. It's coming. Anything can be 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:26.760 your scout team quarterback, Yeah, for sure, for sure. Oh 1:12:26.840 --> 1:12:29.160 I bet he'll be playing some scout team quarterback. When 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:31.439 now when the Chargers play the Panthers, I bet you 1:12:31.560 --> 1:12:34.439 that Kansas City's on the clock now. And uh and again, 1:12:34.560 --> 1:12:37.080 his dad played in the NFL. Was a fourth round pick. 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:40.800 His uncle was the second overall pick. And so he's 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:43.280 get it in his jeans too. So I'm happy to 1:12:43.320 --> 1:12:46.479 see him. Was a fourth round pick Kansas City Chiefs. 1:12:46.520 --> 1:12:51.400 Here my buddy John Dorsey, and this is the Cardinals. 1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:54.559 The Cardinals traded up in front of the Kansas City 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:58.639 to get that Della Delaware Valley State. Yeah, defensive tackle. 1:12:59.120 --> 1:13:00.920 That that's why they had traded up to get him. 1:13:01.080 --> 1:13:03.200 That they knew the Chiefs wanted him. And so for 1:13:03.320 --> 1:13:06.880 Meek Wilson, one of my favorite players, and I have 1:13:07.040 --> 1:13:09.040 him on my board in the fifth round. And I 1:13:09.320 --> 1:13:11.840 will say this about him though, I mean, I saw 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:13.639 one of my favorite I've got a lot of players, 1:13:13.680 --> 1:13:18.680 but it's gonna you watch him and this Herrera kid 1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:22.519 play at Georgia. This kid is a junior, led the 1:13:22.800 --> 1:13:27.479 SEC and tackles and he is he is, Yeah, he 1:13:27.680 --> 1:13:30.479 is all over the field, and I loved him. I 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:33.439 had him as a guy we want of the mock drafts. 1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:37.120 I actually mocked him to the Cowboys as a run 1:13:37.400 --> 1:13:41.759 hit linebacker, but he he was. He's got the dreads, 1:13:41.800 --> 1:13:45.200 he's he's always flying around plays off block. I mean, 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:47.479 a little bit of an undersized guy. But I love 1:13:47.560 --> 1:13:49.560 the way the guy ran. I love the way he 1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:52.000 kind of was sneaky, the way he got some through 1:13:52.040 --> 1:13:54.200 the cracks, but he when he saw the ball, he 1:13:54.360 --> 1:13:56.639 was there. He's gonna be a secure tackler. The coverage 1:13:56.640 --> 1:13:58.120 stuff they're gonna have to work on a little bit. 1:13:58.160 --> 1:14:00.640 But as far as the guy that run hit and 1:14:00.800 --> 1:14:02.720 get the bulkcare on the ground, that was my guy. 1:14:02.840 --> 1:14:05.800 Fantastic segue. I mean, we talked about d Tach, we 1:14:05.800 --> 1:14:08.760 talked about running back. Linebacker is a spot. I mean, 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:10.960 you you feel probably good about your first two or 1:14:11.000 --> 1:14:13.479 three guys there, but I mean, and we know that 1:14:13.600 --> 1:14:16.439 they were interested in linebacker and in the first and 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:19.040 second round, so you figure maybe you don't feel great 1:14:19.040 --> 1:14:23.639 about the overall. I mean, is that a consideration here? Well, 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:26.120 feel good about anybody though. I mean, they've got numbers. 1:14:26.320 --> 1:14:28.080 They've got a lot of numbers. They got a lot 1:14:28.120 --> 1:14:30.960 of numbers, but that but who can you upgrade the numbers? 1:14:31.040 --> 1:14:34.280 Can upgrade. How's your depth? Look, Ronda mcclean's on one 1:14:34.360 --> 1:14:37.320 year deal, on Lee's and never healthy. So I mean, 1:14:37.479 --> 1:14:39.800 is there a guy here that's in this range? I wrote, 1:14:39.840 --> 1:14:42.439 I wrote about a guy that I like, but I 1:14:42.760 --> 1:14:45.240 and I have him in the fourth round, and that 1:14:45.320 --> 1:14:48.599 would be a Damon Wilson. Wilson from Minnesota. I'm gonna 1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:51.040 say the same. Yeah, I think that's yeah. He is 1:14:51.120 --> 1:14:54.680 an inside guy. He's an inside guy. You could play cousin. Yeah, 1:14:54.960 --> 1:14:57.240 Mary Nelly, mary Nelli talked on the fourth and one 1:14:57.280 --> 1:14:58.759 in the fifth. There you go. You know, it's interesting 1:14:58.800 --> 1:15:01.040 when Mary Nelly was talking about though, looking at those 1:15:01.120 --> 1:15:05.080 weak side linebackers like Anthon absolutely versatil we can play 1:15:05.120 --> 1:15:07.120 all three. And that's one of the things too. I 1:15:07.200 --> 1:15:11.240 think even when they were looking at a McKinney versus 1:15:12.040 --> 1:15:16.840 a Kitchens in the in the first round, Um, all right, 1:15:17.200 --> 1:15:20.080 they're even though Shuntley's moving to the wheel right now, 1:15:20.920 --> 1:15:23.439 he can possibly move back to the middle of the 1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:27.160 absolutely if he would, he would, If if anything were 1:15:27.200 --> 1:15:29.040 to happen to mcclan I would have seen exactly. But 1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:31.679 if you're drafting a guy who could be an eventual 1:15:31.840 --> 1:15:34.320 starter next year the year after, who's more of a will? 1:15:34.800 --> 1:15:38.160 You have that versatility there where Sean could move back inside. 1:15:38.439 --> 1:15:40.840 That wouldn't be the most stunning development in the world. 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:45.000 When we talked about it might have been Shack Thompson 1:15:45.040 --> 1:15:47.320 on Thursday night. He had still been there, that's right, 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:49.840 although they may have played him in sub packages his 1:15:49.960 --> 1:15:53.360 rookie year and where with the idea that he'd be 1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:59.320 the will next year after if McLean wasn't here. Andrew Denal, however, 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:02.880 you say his last name was headed from Saint Louis. 1:16:02.920 --> 1:16:06.840 The quote unquote other tackle at Iowa this year, a 1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:11.560 player who four consecutives time Academy of Country Music and 1:16:11.640 --> 1:16:15.479 four time Country Music Association Entertainer of the Year, Guy 1:16:15.640 --> 1:16:18.280 Kenny Chesney. Tonight, Kennedy's a fan. He's he's a fan 1:16:18.360 --> 1:16:24.280 of every It's too part of his twenty fifteen tour, Kenny, 1:16:24.680 --> 1:16:27.880 It's my turn. Yes. Well, the with the eighteenth pick 1:16:28.479 --> 1:16:31.759 of the fourth round, number one hundred and seventeen overall, 1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:35.920 the San Francisco forty nine ers select Blake Bell todd 1:16:35.960 --> 1:16:40.000 In from Oklahoma. Here we go. So there's the official announcement, 1:16:40.080 --> 1:16:42.880 the news that we gave you moments ago. Oklahoma's Kenny 1:16:42.960 --> 1:16:48.680 Chesney's favorite team except for Wing's rooming for Tennessee are 1:16:48.760 --> 1:16:52.760 the Saints. The Saints. Yeah, him and Sean Payner pick 1:16:52.840 --> 1:16:55.600 a team, Kenny, come on, Yeah, to get back that 1:16:55.720 --> 1:17:00.679 we talked about don ell I watched it was going crazy. 1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:08.479 Someone's going crazy, I talking about Donnelle. I really okay, Oh, 1:17:08.800 --> 1:17:12.040 helmet we go. It was a hellman's helmet was left 1:17:12.080 --> 1:17:15.000 on the computer and that was causing that. David doesn't 1:17:15.040 --> 1:17:20.800 think professional broadcasters. And then there's David Helmet. There's I 1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:24.200 will say this though about Donnelle, and you watch again 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:28.679 when you watch Iowa tape. Uh, this guy I thought 1:17:28.720 --> 1:17:31.360 he was. People used the word serviceable. I think he's 1:17:31.439 --> 1:17:34.479 better than that. As a right tackle. When they were 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:38.160 running those stretch plays, zone plays, there were games where, 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:43.160 you know, Wisconsin, Nebraska, he was getting outside and hooking 1:17:43.320 --> 1:17:47.280 his man. You know, it not always gonna completely wipe 1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:50.080 somebody out of the play, not gonna just blow somebody 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:52.599 off the line. But when you talked about a guy 1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:55.160 that would get on his block, stay on his feet, 1:17:55.600 --> 1:17:58.400 get some push, allow the back to make a cut, 1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:01.639 Andrew Dunnelle was a guy that I really I thought, Hey, 1:18:02.040 --> 1:18:05.680 if you to me, he looked more athletic than the 1:18:05.800 --> 1:18:08.840 Wisconsin than Haverstein, right, I mean, and I know they're 1:18:08.880 --> 1:18:12.479 both kind of, you know, brawler kind of guys. I 1:18:12.560 --> 1:18:13.880 used the word brawler, but when I always say that, 1:18:13.880 --> 1:18:16.000 when you don't have you're not very athletic. But this 1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:18.519 guy did a pretty good job. I thought of finishing blocks, 1:18:18.640 --> 1:18:22.200 not being on the ground, not flopping around some you know, 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:24.920 he's gonna get real close to you on pass protection. 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:27.519 He's not gonna let you, you know, not gonna extend 1:18:27.640 --> 1:18:29.680 on you and really sit down on you, but he's 1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:31.559 gonna get into on, tight on you, try and hold 1:18:31.600 --> 1:18:34.200 you off the play, and you know him. Sheriff and 1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:37.639 Danelle were in the same recruiting class and for Sheriff, 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:41.200 he saw the field very early and obviously he flourished, 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:44.840 and for Danelle he waited his turn. He did not 1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:47.920 start until his senior year, was the starting right tackle, 1:18:48.200 --> 1:18:51.760 started all thirteen games. Uh, he does it. I don't 1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:53.559 love his punch. I don't There's a lot of things 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:56.599 that he needs to work on, but again, he really 1:18:56.680 --> 1:18:58.960 takes pride in his technique and the player that he 1:18:59.120 --> 1:19:02.160 is so of the work ethic, love the attitude. I 1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:05.160 think he's going to really compete for snaps here early 1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:09.160 in his career. Yeah, all right, Cincinnati is on the clock. 1:19:09.240 --> 1:19:11.960 The pick is in for the Bengals again. Jaya Jaii 1:19:12.240 --> 1:19:14.800 is still sitting there for the Cowboys, who are seven 1:19:14.920 --> 1:19:20.479 picks away one twenty seven. Baltimore has two picks and 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:22.960 they have a running back need. Prior to the Colborn 1:19:23.040 --> 1:19:25.880 and then and the Ravens have had a history of 1:19:26.200 --> 1:19:29.960 finding ways to spoil things in a draft room every 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:34.600 once in a while, so be alert for that. To 1:19:34.720 --> 1:19:37.280 me in the Bengals have now got their pick in. 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:43.920 It wasn't surprised me. Maybe I don't know they've I'm 1:19:43.920 --> 1:19:45.720 just gonna trying to make a guess here. I mean, 1:19:45.840 --> 1:19:48.599 if you're talking about best players on the board, guys 1:19:48.640 --> 1:19:51.760 like you know Bennett, you know he's an Ohio guy. Yeah, 1:19:52.160 --> 1:19:55.160 so you know, would they go that route and another 1:19:55.240 --> 1:20:00.400 geno Actings and Grady could go secondary here und number 1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:06.559 one hundred and twenty overall, our Cincinnati Bengals select Josh Shaw. 1:20:07.320 --> 1:20:11.160 Here we got another guy the Cowboys like, Yeah, Josh Shaw. 1:20:11.320 --> 1:20:14.000 That was a guy I wrote about today it's one 1:20:14.040 --> 1:20:19.160 of the go ahead and yeah, as as the as 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:20.960 one of the ghost guys. If the Cowboys were going 1:20:21.000 --> 1:20:23.600 to go for another cornerback and a guy that potentially 1:20:23.680 --> 1:20:26.960 could be again position flex, Dan talk about him maybe 1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:29.640 playing some safety too if you had to. But you know, 1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:32.160 with the and with with Josh Shaw, you wonder what 1:20:32.320 --> 1:20:35.519 could have been if you know, last summer he does 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:38.280 not have the incident where he jumped off a balcony 1:20:38.880 --> 1:20:43.320 evading police at his door, and then he lies about it. 1:20:43.479 --> 1:20:45.960 And you know, it's not so much the fact that 1:20:46.120 --> 1:20:48.240 the reason he's still available in the fourth round not 1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:50.880 so much because of the lie and that incident, but 1:20:50.960 --> 1:20:52.960 it's the fact that he injured himself. He put himself 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:55.680 in that situation, and he had he played in three 1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:58.439 games as a senior. He didn't have any senior tape 1:20:58.439 --> 1:21:01.640 for scouts to look at safety. Is he more of 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:05.599 a safety? I think it's really split depending on who 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:08.160 you talk to, because he has the makeup to stay 1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:10.800 at corner, but he looks like a safety. And so 1:21:11.080 --> 1:21:12.680 where do you like him better? When you scouted Brian, 1:21:13.040 --> 1:21:16.559 I thought I thought he could play corner myself. I thought, 1:21:16.600 --> 1:21:18.639 is that his best position. I think it's his best position. 1:21:18.840 --> 1:21:20.800 I tell you what, the guy. I like the way 1:21:20.840 --> 1:21:23.240 he moves, I mean, the way he gets up on 1:21:23.360 --> 1:21:25.519 he turned. I think he could play off coverage too. 1:21:25.840 --> 1:21:27.920 Drive on the ball. I think he sees the field 1:21:27.960 --> 1:21:31.280 pretty well. And I think he handled the aftermath of 1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:33.720 his incident in the lying and so forth. He he 1:21:33.800 --> 1:21:37.040 actually spoke at the USC graduation ceremony and so I 1:21:37.080 --> 1:21:40.519 thought that was admirable about him. Dorian Grant, quarterback Ohio 1:21:40.720 --> 1:21:46.080 State goes to Pittsburgh. Dorian Grant. Another announcement here from 1:21:46.160 --> 1:21:53.240 Dorian for the Steelers pick of the fourth round, number one, 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:59.040 twenty one overall. The Pittsburgh Steelers selector Rand Grant, defensive 1:21:59.120 --> 1:22:03.679 back from a high state. There was another corner along 1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:05.960 with Josh Shaw that the Cowboys could have had their 1:22:06.040 --> 1:22:09.519 eye on if they fell Um. And you know Dorn 1:22:09.600 --> 1:22:13.280 Grant coming from northeast Ohio. I mean, I keep my 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:16.559 eye on these guys. And uh, he's from same high 1:22:16.600 --> 1:22:19.799 school Lebron James is from UM. It was a top recruit. 1:22:20.240 --> 1:22:22.599 He goes to Ohio State and it probably didn't do much. 1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:25.400 And now as a senior again he stepped up and 1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:27.000 he was a part of that defense that helped with 1:22:27.080 --> 1:22:30.960 the National championship. But a player that's well rounded. But 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:34.559 there's just not much you really get excited about. So um, 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:36.880 I think he's the type of player that you see 1:22:36.920 --> 1:22:40.920 the traits, not necessarily the production. So Steelers there with 1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:43.400 the getting him in the fourth round. I don't see 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:45.960 a player that plays to his measurables. No, he doesn't. 1:22:46.080 --> 1:22:49.080 I see a guy that team guys receivers pushed this 1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:52.160 guy around. He's got He's going to a team where 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:54.479 he better learned to be tough. You know, he better 1:22:54.560 --> 1:22:56.840 step up or Dorrin Grant is not going to be 1:22:56.960 --> 1:22:59.680 very long for this league. And I'm with you so 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:01.400 so many times it looked like he was going through 1:23:01.439 --> 1:23:04.799 the motions and just, uh, you know, doing the minimal 1:23:05.080 --> 1:23:07.200 and so he needs to play above what he can 1:23:07.280 --> 1:23:11.400 do in orders down the field. Okay, Bill if I'm sorry, Dave, Yeah, 1:23:11.640 --> 1:23:14.040 Stephen Jones being on the fields, be on the field, 1:23:14.080 --> 1:23:17.200 be on the phone. Uh, they were looking Jerry Junior 1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:20.439 was had walked all the way over to the right 1:23:20.520 --> 1:23:21.840 side of that board. I don't know if you can 1:23:21.880 --> 1:23:24.640 see Jason Garrett's looking in that direction. That would be 1:23:24.840 --> 1:23:29.280 the sixth and seventh round area. Maybe they were, Uh 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:32.280 I was looking at pick Look, seventh round picks, I 1:23:32.280 --> 1:23:35.280 don't have any value. Yeah, well, you know they's you know, 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:37.400 they're kind of smiling about it right now. It might 1:23:37.439 --> 1:23:39.599 be a deal that someone called and said, hey, listen, 1:23:40.000 --> 1:23:42.559 we'll flip you this for that. It wasn't a very 1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:45.240 long phone call. No, but Jerry and I don't know 1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:47.080 if we could get it on the camera completely, but 1:23:47.240 --> 1:23:50.240 Jerry Junior is walking, he's looking around at the picks 1:23:50.320 --> 1:23:53.280 and stuff. Good, good opportunity to just kind of around. Yeah, 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:55.800 for everybody. You know, sometimes you hear from readers like, 1:23:55.960 --> 1:23:58.880 deal your seventh rounders for this, Well, both of the 1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:01.559 Cowboys picks and the seventh round or worth a combined 1:24:01.640 --> 1:24:05.400 four points. Uh so, but if someone really wanted somebody, 1:24:05.439 --> 1:24:07.639 they could you could exchange it, like if you sure 1:24:07.720 --> 1:24:11.240 Cowboys wanted to get into sixth round or exactly something exactly. 1:24:11.280 --> 1:24:13.559 I mean, really, they don't have a fish. They don't 1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:15.800 have a sixth round pick. They do not, and so 1:24:16.479 --> 1:24:18.719 it could be a situation where a team to whatever 1:24:18.800 --> 1:24:21.479 the team values that pick. As Sure were worried about 1:24:21.680 --> 1:24:23.400 he got the Ravens up this was a selection. We 1:24:23.479 --> 1:24:28.200 were worried about it. Sure is terrified is actually the 1:24:28.240 --> 1:24:32.840 word that I would Here we go with here, there 1:24:32.880 --> 1:24:37.200 we go with the twenty third pick of the fourth round, 1:24:37.479 --> 1:24:42.720 number one twenty two overall, the bottomore Ravens select Zadarius 1:24:43.320 --> 1:24:47.320 Zadarius Smith. There we go. We're not on camera, but 1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:51.400 I just fish pumped the other pass rusher from Kentucky. 1:24:51.880 --> 1:24:54.519 But Bud Dupre was on one side, says Darius Smith 1:24:54.600 --> 1:24:58.160 was on the other. Uh. Interesting backstory with he was 1:24:58.160 --> 1:25:00.760 a basketball player and you know, closer to the end 1:25:00.800 --> 1:25:03.439 of his high school career, he kind of understood, you 1:25:03.479 --> 1:25:05.479 know what, I'm not going to be an NBA player, 1:25:05.600 --> 1:25:08.880 so let's try football. Goes to JUCO level after two years, 1:25:08.920 --> 1:25:12.000 then goes to Kentucky and he he bypassed some other 1:25:12.160 --> 1:25:15.960 SEC offer SEC offers to go to Kentucky. I'm still 1:25:16.080 --> 1:25:17.920 learning how to play the position. But you just look 1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:19.720 at him, he just looks like an NFL player. Oh 1:25:19.760 --> 1:25:22.200 he does look like an NFL player though, And there's 1:25:22.280 --> 1:25:25.320 times where you're like, going, he's playing better than Buddy Pree. 1:25:25.680 --> 1:25:27.680 You know, when you talk about I think I think 1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:30.200 he does a really nice job. The best thing I 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:32.680 saw about him was how physical he is at the 1:25:32.720 --> 1:25:35.680 point of attack. I think that's something Bud Dupree is 1:25:35.720 --> 1:25:39.680 a an athlete. This guy is a hit you get 1:25:39.760 --> 1:25:42.000 off the block, chase to play, get you on the 1:25:42.080 --> 1:25:45.760 ground kind of guy. So that's for guy to last 1:25:45.880 --> 1:25:47.680 in the fourth time, that's about where he needed to 1:25:47.720 --> 1:25:51.720 be selected. Yeah, maybe late third, probably early fourth. So 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:54.320 I think that's excellent value here. You know we had 1:25:54.360 --> 1:25:57.120 some movement there or you know Cleveland is picking. Oh ye, 1:25:57.280 --> 1:26:00.800 Cleveland's got more of a running back need than what Arizona. 1:26:01.320 --> 1:26:06.200 They just took that right. Here's the interesting thing to me, 1:26:06.360 --> 1:26:10.840 and you know, there you go. He was one of 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:13.160 the top receivers left on the board. So it's a 1:26:13.200 --> 1:26:15.560 good pick for them. Vince Mayo talk about him just 1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:17.840 a little bit, because I did not see Vince Mayl play. 1:26:18.840 --> 1:26:20.439 You didn't like him or you didn't I didn't. I 1:26:20.640 --> 1:26:22.240 just tell me about him though. I mean what you 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:24.599 saw on the player, A good sized player at six 1:26:24.680 --> 1:26:29.240 two to twenty five. He interesting background. Uh, he was 1:26:29.280 --> 1:26:32.639 a basketball player and then he decided to go to football. 1:26:32.800 --> 1:26:35.360 I started at the JUCO level, goes to Washington State. 1:26:35.880 --> 1:26:38.280 Really productive. He had over a hundred catches last year, 1:26:38.680 --> 1:26:41.160 uh for the Cougars. And so I think you have 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:45.160 a player that he reminds me a lot of DeVante Parker. 1:26:45.640 --> 1:26:48.160 He's not quite as talented, not quite as gifted, but 1:26:48.280 --> 1:26:50.640 that type of style and that mold. And so if 1:26:50.720 --> 1:26:53.840 you can get uh we talked about Jamison Crowder being 1:26:53.880 --> 1:26:56.960 Brandon Cook's light. Well, this is what Vince Maylee is. 1:26:57.000 --> 1:27:00.519 He's DeVante Parker light. Uh, not quite at that level, 1:27:00.640 --> 1:27:04.400 not quite as gifted, but that style of receiver, size, athleticism, 1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:08.320 plays up to his size consistently to overwhelm defensive backs. 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:11.439 And you know, we're still what, we're still four three 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:18.160 picks away from Dallas at right now, but here is 1:27:18.320 --> 1:27:21.240 here and you know, obviously I've made no secret about 1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:24.320 the fact that Jagiu is my guy. But at this point, 1:27:24.479 --> 1:27:26.880 I mean, you feel, I'm feeling pretty good that a 1:27:26.920 --> 1:27:28.840 guy there they like is going to be there, though, 1:27:28.880 --> 1:27:34.160 I mean, whether whether Barrett is still there. Um, your 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:38.559 your boy from Minnesota, Damian Wilson. Yeah, So it seems 1:27:38.600 --> 1:27:40.320 like they're gonna have a guy that they like there 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:42.559 to choose from. It might not be the running back, 1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:45.680 but they should have an opportunity to pick someone they 1:27:45.720 --> 1:27:47.920 feel good about at at a position of need too, 1:27:47.960 --> 1:27:50.640 because whether it's linebacker, whether it's defensive tackle. I just 1:27:50.800 --> 1:27:53.160 once again I think they're all. You know Jerry Jones. 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:54.920 You see the war room, he had at straw in 1:27:55.000 --> 1:27:58.679 his mouth, and I guarantee he is chopping on that too, 1:27:58.800 --> 1:28:01.360 because I don't want to jinx it, but this is 1:28:01.439 --> 1:28:03.320 kind of the third day in a row where playing 1:28:03.360 --> 1:28:05.360 the waiting game has kind of worked in their favor. 1:28:05.400 --> 1:28:07.519 I mean, to this point, it's it's working out. You 1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:09.519 might have just chinked it. Well. We got a wooden 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:13.840 table in here that I just knocked on. Got Oakland, Baltimore, 1:28:13.920 --> 1:28:17.160 San Francisco, and then Dallas. It looks like that maybe 1:28:17.200 --> 1:28:19.519 as your Tampa is now on the clock at this 1:28:19.680 --> 1:28:23.519 pick at one twenty four, So the Oakland Raiders backed 1:28:23.560 --> 1:28:26.400 out here. This is Tampa's pick. Now. I feel like 1:28:26.520 --> 1:28:29.280 Oakland Tampa's been dealing all over the place in this draft. 1:28:29.600 --> 1:28:33.919 Let me look up, Tampa. I got somebody in mind tackles. 1:28:35.840 --> 1:28:37.439 They haven't had a pick its second round, Am I 1:28:37.560 --> 1:28:41.800 right on that? I don't believe. I'm pretty sure I 1:28:41.840 --> 1:28:44.160 don't think Tampa Bay has taken a defensive player in 1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:48.560 the draft. They've got no, not just this year, but thirteen. 1:28:49.600 --> 1:28:51.680 Could you could could this be been it? Could this 1:28:51.800 --> 1:28:57.000 be a guy to play Lovey Shirt's uh, Lovey Smith's scheme, 1:28:57.600 --> 1:28:59.479 play the one, play the three. Kind of a guy 1:28:59.640 --> 1:29:00.920 just look at the end. The other day. They got 1:29:00.960 --> 1:29:05.040 a ton of defensive linemen on their roster, but play Yeah, 1:29:05.400 --> 1:29:08.000 Henry Melton's one of them. Yeah, that's true, any of them. 1:29:08.120 --> 1:29:11.599 Gerald McCoy we know can play right, Yeah, very well, 1:29:11.680 --> 1:29:14.400 he can play some football. Um canna be on my 1:29:14.520 --> 1:29:17.720 team anytime. But you are right, it's been it's been 1:29:17.760 --> 1:29:20.000 two offensive linemen in a quarterback. There's what they have 1:29:20.040 --> 1:29:22.400 on their defense. And they just picked up George Johnson, 1:29:22.439 --> 1:29:24.920 a defensive end who was a restricted free agent from Detroit. 1:29:25.000 --> 1:29:28.280 Pick is in. Yeah, William Goldston, you got a team, Spence, 1:29:28.600 --> 1:29:33.200 Clinton McDonald, Henry Melton, d tack will make sense here. 1:29:33.240 --> 1:29:36.000 I like I heard yesterday, linebackers that can run. They 1:29:36.040 --> 1:29:38.160 haven't taken any defenders this year, which means the last 1:29:38.200 --> 1:29:45.400 time they took a defender was late in twenty Ump bump, 1:29:47.560 --> 1:29:50.599 All right, ls, you guys tell us about and where 1:29:50.760 --> 1:29:52.800 is he is? An athletic son of a gun. Yeah, 1:29:52.880 --> 1:29:55.840 they an inside linebacker. I mean Bruce Carter. They said 1:29:55.880 --> 1:29:58.280 Bruce Carter is gonna be their middle linebacker. I think 1:29:58.320 --> 1:30:00.720 and Brian you're you're the you're the tape, But I 1:30:00.800 --> 1:30:04.160 would think that Kwan would play Will Lavante David's playing 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:05.840 Will for Yeah? Well that well, I mean is he 1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:07.479 I mean you're not drafting him in the fourth round 1:30:07.479 --> 1:30:09.680 to be a starter, though, are you? Probably? Are you 1:30:09.720 --> 1:30:11.840 think he's gonna play Mike linebacker? I mean he's I 1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:14.200 mean he's fast, it's a strong side. Yeah, he's a 1:30:14.280 --> 1:30:16.880 fast guy. I play him at Mike. Okay, yeah, because 1:30:17.200 --> 1:30:20.280 David David's gonna play though he's he's not a he's 1:30:20.280 --> 1:30:23.040 not a bulky dude. No. But but the run hit again, 1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:26.599 in this scheme, you gotta have guys that run hit 1:30:26.720 --> 1:30:29.439 and and that's something you know when even though some 1:30:29.520 --> 1:30:31.760 of the blitzer I thought he was a really good blitzer. Yeah, 1:30:31.840 --> 1:30:35.320 myself watching the tape and and yeah, I mean he's 1:30:35.800 --> 1:30:38.760 he's he's athletic. He is an athletic guy. So I 1:30:38.800 --> 1:30:41.920 mean they'll find a spot if he's gonna If he's 1:30:41.920 --> 1:30:43.559 gonna play Mike, then the fact. I mean he can 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:45.559 get from sideline to sideline. You're like, you better than 1:30:45.600 --> 1:30:50.479 Bruce Carter. Oh, that's tough. I like Bruce Carter a 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:52.719 lot when he wants when he's playing, well, the problem 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:56.640 is that that's only like half the time. M But 1:30:56.720 --> 1:30:59.040 I wouldn't you probably, I mean, not gonna play Bruce 1:30:59.120 --> 1:31:01.160 and Mike. Okay, you're the Ravens are on the clubs. 1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:03.400 They were saying when they when they signed him, they said, 1:31:03.439 --> 1:31:06.160 he's our middle linebacker. That is the one spot he 1:31:06.280 --> 1:31:10.760 never really tried out here. Four let's say fourth round. 1:31:10.800 --> 1:31:14.439 We got two picks before Dallas Baltimore in San Francisco. Yeah, 1:31:14.520 --> 1:31:18.719 pick his in for Baltimore Baltimore. We we've sweated this pick. 1:31:18.920 --> 1:31:22.600 Don't do me like this Ravens. Yeah, well it'll be 1:31:22.840 --> 1:31:25.679 interesting because again they they're they're it's funny. Their team 1:31:25.760 --> 1:31:28.040 needs seem to be the same as the Cowboys. They 1:31:28.160 --> 1:31:30.400 just brought four setback. I know. I mean he's thirty 1:31:30.640 --> 1:31:32.920 thirty one. I know he's not a spring chicken. Oh 1:31:33.240 --> 1:31:39.439 they took that's fine. That's a very good chance that 1:31:39.479 --> 1:31:41.920 could have been picked one twenty seven. It could have been. Yeah, 1:31:42.000 --> 1:31:44.400 I know, they like him. Well, it doesn't like to 1:31:44.479 --> 1:31:46.679 me in the war room, they're they're, they're they're talking 1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:50.080 about the board right now. They're over there all focused 1:31:50.120 --> 1:31:54.080 in on it, uh, seeing exactly it would be left, 1:31:54.160 --> 1:31:56.720 you know, the heck baches, Yeah, nudge for we need 1:31:56.760 --> 1:31:59.519 a running back. Yeah, let's get a running back, physical 1:31:59.600 --> 1:32:03.320 running at too. Yeah, this kid go get him. I 1:32:03.400 --> 1:32:05.800 mean if he has sent back still on the board. 1:32:05.880 --> 1:32:08.280 To me, the fourth round has always been the round. 1:32:08.400 --> 1:32:10.760 This is I'm like I said earlier, I mean, this 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:13.840 is equivalent and it's a little different because I mean 1:32:13.880 --> 1:32:16.600 it's it's injury, but I mean it's this is a 1:32:16.680 --> 1:32:18.960 lot like getting Randy Gregory at sixty. You never thought 1:32:19.000 --> 1:32:20.920 he'd be there. This There any other running backs that 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:25.599 they would like at this point, Mike Davis, buck Allen 1:32:25.640 --> 1:32:28.120 off the board. I would say it's a Stephen Stephen 1:32:29.080 --> 1:32:32.280 steps excited about something. So it's either I mean it 1:32:32.320 --> 1:32:36.439 would I would say Mike Davis or or um Ji 1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:39.360 would be the top two left. I know Cop is 1:32:39.400 --> 1:32:41.720 probably still there somewhere, but probably not in the fourth round. 1:32:42.080 --> 1:32:44.719 They looks like to me, yeah, they they're they're they're happy. 1:32:44.800 --> 1:32:52.519 They sweated. Oh wait, okay, well maybe maybe our Minnesota guys. 1:32:52.560 --> 1:32:55.280 This might be Damon will This might be Damien Wilson 1:32:55.400 --> 1:32:58.120 is what this might be? So uh uh breaking my 1:32:58.240 --> 1:33:02.840 heart Cowboys. Yeah, I might be too much for them 1:33:03.000 --> 1:33:07.120 to uh to even uh take right, I mean again, 1:33:07.240 --> 1:33:09.400 he just keeps going down the board, down the board, 1:33:09.479 --> 1:33:11.479 down the board. And hey, the medical side of it. 1:33:11.800 --> 1:33:14.519 Did anybody believe Jerry Jones when he said running back 1:33:14.600 --> 1:33:17.960 was not a muth Yeah? Anybody? I didn't, I know, 1:33:18.080 --> 1:33:21.400 I didn't believe it. Well, here we are. Yeah, well 1:33:21.600 --> 1:33:23.720 let's see, let's see. I mean again, they're shaking him. 1:33:24.880 --> 1:33:26.880 Nobody's on the no, Yeah, they got they got him 1:33:26.920 --> 1:33:29.280 on the phone, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry's gonna go first here, 1:33:29.760 --> 1:33:32.880 and so we're we're guessing Damian Wilson. Yeah, especially with 1:33:32.920 --> 1:33:36.320 the lineman unless we're missing somebody here. By the way, 1:33:36.479 --> 1:33:40.080 Mike Davis went to San Francisco to pick previous to 1:33:40.200 --> 1:33:44.120 Dallas two straight running Raskill before Dallas, which is on 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:46.840 the clock on the phone with their pick. Right now, 1:33:47.400 --> 1:33:51.800 the Cowboys have made their selection, and I and by 1:33:51.880 --> 1:33:54.360 with with Matt Eberflus being on that phone, I think 1:33:54.400 --> 1:33:57.040 that we're probably pretty accurate and saying that Damien Wilson 1:33:57.200 --> 1:34:00.960 is going to be this guy, the linebacker from Minnesota, 1:34:01.400 --> 1:34:03.200 and we talked about him, Dane. I mean you can 1:34:03.360 --> 1:34:05.840 give a good scouting report on him as well. Yeah, 1:34:05.960 --> 1:34:10.040 a player, a juco guy, goes to Minnesota and starts 1:34:10.080 --> 1:34:12.840 the last two years in the middle and junior year, 1:34:13.840 --> 1:34:16.760 senior year. Okay, he caught my eye. A player who 1:34:16.920 --> 1:34:20.840 lost some weight, amped up the focus and really showed up. 1:34:21.360 --> 1:34:23.839 He's one of the Big Ten's best players this past season. 1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:27.439 On defense, you just you love the way he's active. 1:34:27.560 --> 1:34:31.080 He directs traffic, pre stamp. It's a restuff for my report. 1:34:31.680 --> 1:34:35.640 Diagnosed skills to attack and finish. Aggressive play gets him 1:34:35.640 --> 1:34:38.280 in trouble at times, but he's well rounded, physical temperament 1:34:38.360 --> 1:34:40.439 that fits what NFL teams are looking for at the 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:45.840 position mike most likely you want him inside. So six 1:34:45.880 --> 1:34:49.760 foot two five, Yeah, he's six foot two forty five 1:34:49.880 --> 1:34:52.639 ran a four seven seven forty yard dash. A guy 1:34:52.720 --> 1:34:56.240 who I graded him as more of a backup, but 1:34:56.360 --> 1:34:58.320 the type of player that's going to push your starters 1:34:58.360 --> 1:35:01.479 for playing time. And this would mean that mcclean's your 1:35:01.520 --> 1:35:03.800 starter right now. We'll see what the future holds for 1:35:03.920 --> 1:35:06.360 him in Dallas, but if he is a starter here, 1:35:06.400 --> 1:35:11.200 we got stadium to announce our next pick. In a 1:35:11.280 --> 1:35:15.680 two thousand, fifteen NFLCAFT the Dallas Cowboys would like to 1:35:16.320 --> 1:35:21.880 welcome sponsor Representative Michael Stockton. Thank you. With the twenty 1:35:21.920 --> 1:35:25.040 eighth pick or the fourth round number one hundred and 1:35:25.080 --> 1:35:31.080 twenty seventh overall, the Dallas Cowboys select Damien Wilson, linebacker. 1:35:31.200 --> 1:35:36.559 Minnesota pick Yeah, Amy and Wilson. And you know, if 1:35:36.720 --> 1:35:40.080 I mean, my heart breaks for Jji E. But if 1:35:40.120 --> 1:35:43.200 you move past that, uh, you know, like we were 1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:47.000 talking about maybe ten fifteen picks ago, this is not 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:49.840 that surprising when you consider the Cowboys needs. When you 1:35:49.920 --> 1:35:52.960 talk about you know, they looked at Shack Thompson the 1:35:53.000 --> 1:35:55.320 first round. We talked about Eric Hendricks as a possibility 1:35:55.360 --> 1:36:00.120 all spring. I mean, yes, linebacker looks relatively set for 1:36:00.200 --> 1:36:03.080 the time being. But I mean it's not like you 1:36:03.120 --> 1:36:06.360 can exactly trust Sean Lee's injury history. Rolando McLean is 1:36:06.360 --> 1:36:08.639 on a one year deal and has an injury history 1:36:08.680 --> 1:36:11.320 of his own. Yeah, and then you know, you factor 1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:13.759 in the fact that they don't have a great candidate 1:36:13.840 --> 1:36:16.120 for Sam. I don't know how Damian Wilson plays into that, 1:36:16.240 --> 1:36:18.800 But it is something to consider. It's you know, this 1:36:19.040 --> 1:36:21.200 was a This was a spot that I'm not surprised 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:23.320 to see them address. Like I said, I am a 1:36:23.360 --> 1:36:25.639 little bit of surprised that we have made four picks 1:36:25.680 --> 1:36:28.000 here and there is no running back, but I'm certainly 1:36:28.040 --> 1:36:29.880 not surprised that they had a linebacker. Well, I'll tell 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:34.040 you what, and you gotta trust Mattieberflus last year he 1:36:34.160 --> 1:36:36.400 has earned it. After last year he brought you. He 1:36:36.560 --> 1:36:40.160 brought you Anti Hitsum, handshakes all around. And if I 1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:42.599 could just kind of piggyback on what Dane was saying, 1:36:42.840 --> 1:36:44.840 this guy plays with a burst. He can cover some 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:47.880 ground when he chases a ball, wrap up tackler. Uh, 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:50.040 you know, I think he needs to be on the move. 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:52.880 He finds a way to split double team blocks and screens, 1:36:52.920 --> 1:36:56.000 can really change directions, awareness and knock the ball down 1:36:56.040 --> 1:36:59.000 to coach. He's a quick footed player, quick reactions would 1:36:59.040 --> 1:37:01.320 make every single way if he wasn't held. That was 1:37:01.400 --> 1:37:03.920 something I saw. Special player when it comes to getting 1:37:03.960 --> 1:37:06.439 to the football, makes plays all over the field. There's 1:37:06.479 --> 1:37:08.240 no way he plays to his forty time. I said, 1:37:08.439 --> 1:37:10.200 and we had a forty time of a four seven 1:37:10.360 --> 1:37:12.880 nine that this kid is a much faster football player. 1:37:12.920 --> 1:37:15.799 He's an aware football player. They should be very excited 1:37:15.800 --> 1:37:18.879 to have a guy like this one hundred and nineteen tackles, 1:37:18.960 --> 1:37:22.040 ten point five for lost, four sacks, one pick, three 1:37:22.160 --> 1:37:24.960 pass breakups and a forced fumble last year for the Gophers. 1:37:25.120 --> 1:37:28.200 And Damian Wilson went to the NFLPA game and he impressed. 1:37:28.320 --> 1:37:31.120 I think what his performance there that week really helped 1:37:31.160 --> 1:37:34.479 him as well. Young guy doesn't turn twenty two until 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:37.360 next month or this month, later this month. Um, you know, 1:37:37.400 --> 1:37:42.040 and there's a reason Minnesota was much better. Yeah, playing 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:44.200 in the Big Ten this year. I mean they played 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:49.080 a decent game against TCU. Um, yeah, they were in 1:37:49.160 --> 1:37:51.200 a bowl game. I mean they they they've got a 1:37:51.280 --> 1:37:53.720 they this is not your Yeah, Minnesota has done a 1:37:53.880 --> 1:37:56.360 much better job recruiting. Oh, you know, they had the 1:37:56.600 --> 1:38:03.040 kid from Atlanta, the defensive tackle that they've had, some 1:38:03.200 --> 1:38:07.000 guys that Max Williams tied in. It was drafted. If 1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:09.120 you would have told me that, you know, Damian Wilson 1:38:09.360 --> 1:38:12.919 would go before David Cobb, I would have been surprised 1:38:12.920 --> 1:38:14.519 a little bit. I thought David Cobb would be off 1:38:14.560 --> 1:38:17.679 the board first, but nonetheless a good linebacker here in Dallas. 1:38:17.880 --> 1:38:21.280 And to Chaz Green was he he was a visit. Yeah, 1:38:21.720 --> 1:38:23.920 all four Dallas picks have been guys that were in 1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:27.160 Valley Ranch at some point this spring, because I know 1:38:27.760 --> 1:38:30.120 as recently as a week or two ago, I saw 1:38:30.439 --> 1:38:33.960 Matt Eberflus and Damian Wilson kind of shooting the breeze 1:38:34.560 --> 1:38:36.439 getting to know each other here at Valley Ranch. So 1:38:36.600 --> 1:38:39.920 this is a guy. You know, when you get into 1:38:39.960 --> 1:38:41.600 this part of the draft and you're hearing names that 1:38:41.640 --> 1:38:45.479 you're not necessarily familiar with, these this is These are 1:38:45.520 --> 1:38:48.120 calculated decisions these guys are making. When you fact, when 1:38:48.160 --> 1:38:50.600 you talk about all four picks are guys that they 1:38:50.720 --> 1:38:53.519 liked enough to bring here get to know and see 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:55.519 what they were all about before they added under the team. 1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:59.479 And John Feliciano is the pick of Oakland here. I remember, 1:38:59.840 --> 1:39:02.120 I remember how and you know, if you guys watch 1:39:02.160 --> 1:39:04.320 more Tepe than I do. But I was thrown for 1:39:05.120 --> 1:39:07.760 a total loop by the Anthony Hitchins pick last year. 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:10.080 It seemed way too early, It seemed kind of to 1:39:10.160 --> 1:39:12.439 be out of left field, and we all know that 1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:15.400 hitch had had a pretty decent rookie season, play in 1:39:15.439 --> 1:39:19.000 all three linebacker spots last year, So based on the 1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:21.040 track record from last year, it's hard for me to 1:39:21.120 --> 1:39:23.640 knock the pick too much. But like I said, I mean, 1:39:23.800 --> 1:39:26.719 you know, if you had told me on Thursday morning 1:39:26.840 --> 1:39:29.800 that we'd be sitting here at pick one twenty nine 1:39:29.840 --> 1:39:31.680 and the Cowboys wouldn't have a running back yet, I 1:39:31.720 --> 1:39:33.880 would I would say that would surprise me. Yeah, but 1:39:34.000 --> 1:39:36.000 it's it's hard to argue with the four picks that 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:38.120 they have made though, in my opinion, based on need, 1:39:38.200 --> 1:39:40.000 based on the value you get for him. Yeah, a 1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:42.760 lot of names to at linebacker now, and but do 1:39:42.840 --> 1:39:45.519 you know there there if you get a good problem 1:39:45.600 --> 1:39:48.040 to happen when you consider the injury problems at linebacker 1:39:48.360 --> 1:39:50.120 it has been. But if you get guys like a 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:53.760 Damie Wilson, you get a guy like Anti Hitchins, those 1:39:53.840 --> 1:39:56.200 cats that can really run, you know, and can get 1:39:56.240 --> 1:39:58.479 to the football and play in the game, and you know, 1:39:58.600 --> 1:40:02.000 and cover a little bit cover ground. That's that's those 1:40:02.200 --> 1:40:04.000 are the traits you're looking for right now. This is 1:40:04.040 --> 1:40:05.760 a it's a crowded core right now. I mean, that's 1:40:05.760 --> 1:40:08.600 a crowded room when you figure, I mean, McClain and 1:40:08.680 --> 1:40:10.519 Lee are your two that you figure to be on 1:40:10.560 --> 1:40:12.960 the field from as often as possible. But you have Hitch, 1:40:13.560 --> 1:40:16.839 you have this guy, Damien Wilson, You've got Andrew Gashcar 1:40:16.960 --> 1:40:20.479 who came in in free agency. Keith Rivers gets completely 1:40:20.560 --> 1:40:24.200 forgotten about former top ten pick. Not I mean it 1:40:24.320 --> 1:40:26.639 certainly hasn't lived up to that building during his career, 1:40:26.800 --> 1:40:29.360 but he has shown flashes of production during his career. 1:40:29.600 --> 1:40:32.280 Jasper Brinkley was Jasper Brinkley was another one who came 1:40:32.320 --> 1:40:34.360 in before McClain was back in the fold, so you 1:40:34.400 --> 1:40:36.320 figure they gave him a look at Mike Well and 1:40:36.360 --> 1:40:41.200 then you've got yourth and Cam laws Lawrence. But Cam 1:40:41.320 --> 1:40:43.560 Lawrence is a guy that you know. I think that 1:40:44.040 --> 1:40:46.200 now when you start drafting guys like this, then Cam 1:40:46.320 --> 1:40:49.360 Lawrence becomes a guy that gets replaced Cam Cam Lawrence 1:40:49.400 --> 1:40:52.719 and Keith Smith or maybe maybe not long for the roster, 1:40:52.920 --> 1:40:55.440 but hey, that's what training camps for, right, Yeah. Absolutely, 1:40:55.479 --> 1:40:58.439 And what I like about this if if indeed this 1:40:58.680 --> 1:41:00.960 pick turns out and Dabe Wilson is able to make 1:41:01.000 --> 1:41:03.599 the transition to the NFL and become an eventual starter 1:41:03.720 --> 1:41:06.360 as you're leaving Shawn Lee as the will linebacker. It's 1:41:06.400 --> 1:41:09.880 not moving back inside. I mean it. And like I said, 1:41:10.080 --> 1:41:12.759 it doesn't look like a position of need for twenty 1:41:12.840 --> 1:41:15.639 fifteen because you feel good about your top two guys, 1:41:15.800 --> 1:41:18.360 but neither one of them has a pension for staying 1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:21.040 on the field for very long. And neither one of them. 1:41:21.760 --> 1:41:24.200 Uh well, Lee's under contract for a little while, but 1:41:24.320 --> 1:41:26.599 but Rolando McClean is obviously on a one year deal. 1:41:26.680 --> 1:41:29.640 So you know you this kind of gives you a 1:41:29.720 --> 1:41:32.080 little bit of a clearer picture going into the next 1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:34.799 two or three seasons as opposed to just twenty fifteen. 1:41:36.240 --> 1:41:41.600 Green Bay is up next, and yeah, do you have 1:41:41.720 --> 1:41:46.040 anybody running back in the fifth round or later that 1:41:46.160 --> 1:41:49.120 would be a prospect? Well, it's cold to see ji 1:41:49.320 --> 1:41:51.680 how that? Yeah, I mean that's still gonna be a 1:41:51.720 --> 1:41:58.760 wild David Cobb. What about Damien Wilson's cousin? Get we 1:41:58.800 --> 1:42:01.720 get both Minnesota guys? Story for US writers once you 1:42:01.760 --> 1:42:04.479 get into the fifth, sixth, seventh rounds, I like, I 1:42:04.640 --> 1:42:07.960 like the kid from North Dakota State, John Crockett, Oh yeah, 1:42:08.280 --> 1:42:11.280 he talk about a motor that never quits. That mouth 1:42:11.360 --> 1:42:15.120 never quits too. He's a he loves to talk green 1:42:15.160 --> 1:42:21.280 based in how do we and you know we taught overall. 1:42:21.800 --> 1:42:28.240 The Oakland Raiders select John Feliciano, guard from Miami is 1:42:28.280 --> 1:42:32.400 the Raiders. Yeah Felicianos, you just root for him. He's 1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:36.200 a self made player. Um it really came from nothing 1:42:36.640 --> 1:42:42.040 and built himself into put himself into a viable starter 1:42:42.120 --> 1:42:43.960 at the college level. And here he is a fourth 1:42:44.040 --> 1:42:46.880 round draft pick. Can play guard, can play tackle. I 1:42:47.000 --> 1:42:50.160 really like his versatility. The Packers got a good person 1:42:50.439 --> 1:42:53.639 and a pretty good player too. Yeah, he tried the Raiders. 1:42:56.600 --> 1:42:58.840 Packers on the clock. Now their their picks about to 1:42:58.840 --> 1:43:03.639 be announced. Ted Thompson always my old buddy there. Uh. 1:43:04.520 --> 1:43:07.400 He likes big ten type players. He likes this tough guy. 1:43:07.520 --> 1:43:10.519 And we talk about the Packers and what they've done 1:43:11.120 --> 1:43:13.000 with you know, they have to deal with the players 1:43:13.080 --> 1:43:16.519 that live in that environment, understand the cold, playing the cold, 1:43:17.000 --> 1:43:18.800 and that's when you when you start talking. It looks 1:43:18.840 --> 1:43:21.400 like here they're they're whooping it up here a little 1:43:21.400 --> 1:43:23.599 bit here at the at the at the lambeau Field. 1:43:23.640 --> 1:43:27.200 Let's see what they got. Fifteen NFL Draft. The Green 1:43:27.280 --> 1:43:31.680 Bay Packers would like to welcome Robert mckennie of Milwaukee, 1:43:31.880 --> 1:43:39.680 Wisconsin with the thirtieth With the thirtieth pick of the 1:43:39.760 --> 1:43:42.800 fourth round, number one twenty nine overall, the Green Bay 1:43:42.840 --> 1:43:47.160 Packers select Jake Ryan, linebacker from the University of Michigan. 1:43:47.280 --> 1:43:51.240 Speaking of a physical, big ten linebacker, Jake Ryan, Jack Ryan. 1:43:51.360 --> 1:43:53.559 There we go. Did you see? Uh? You see Jason 1:43:53.600 --> 1:43:57.160 Garrett's affectionate butt slap for Will McClay. There highlight of 1:43:57.200 --> 1:44:03.000 our coverage today. Very nice, very nice. So Uh, I've 1:44:03.200 --> 1:44:05.720 been told that that Matt Eberflus is going to come 1:44:05.760 --> 1:44:08.240 in here and just a minute, and I will exit 1:44:08.320 --> 1:44:09.960 when he comes here, and I'll can talk to him. 1:44:10.080 --> 1:44:13.519 I need to I need to go eleven and suffer. 1:44:13.760 --> 1:44:16.040 We've been we've been getting the picks on the air here. 1:44:16.040 --> 1:44:19.040 I wonder is Damian Wilson going to be joining us? Well, 1:44:19.120 --> 1:44:23.240 I'm sure that our talented team in there will let 1:44:23.360 --> 1:44:26.559 us know if that, in case is going to happen. Uh, 1:44:26.880 --> 1:44:29.040 we're running. We're almost to the coming up on the 1:44:29.160 --> 1:44:30.519 end of Yeah, we're coming up. Well, we're coming on 1:44:30.560 --> 1:44:32.720 the end of the picks that can be traded. This 1:44:32.800 --> 1:44:35.720 will be the last one the New England. Excuse me, really, 1:44:35.760 --> 1:44:40.240 you got Seattle left and in New England that can't 1:44:40.280 --> 1:44:43.840 be traded with all uh, with all due respect to 1:44:44.000 --> 1:44:47.599 the seventh round gyms that that exists in the NFL, 1:44:47.760 --> 1:44:50.360 we're uh, you know, entering the fifth round, the last 1:44:50.600 --> 1:44:55.080 um the last really meaningful pick that the Cowboy I mean, 1:44:55.400 --> 1:44:58.000 you don't think of seventh rounders as difference makers. Obviously 1:44:58.040 --> 1:45:01.280 there's a reason their point values are so low. So really, 1:45:01.280 --> 1:45:02.960 I mean, and and the Cowboys don't hold a sixth 1:45:03.040 --> 1:45:05.920 round pick, So heading into the last big pick of 1:45:06.000 --> 1:45:08.000 this draft for the Cowboys before they have you know, 1:45:08.120 --> 1:45:10.280 two shots at seventh round guys, heading into the end 1:45:10.320 --> 1:45:13.760 of the day, you know, barring any any movement up 1:45:13.880 --> 1:45:16.479 or down from the team. But that's where where we're standing, 1:45:17.640 --> 1:45:20.360 with what six more picks to make in the fourth round. Yea. 1:45:20.680 --> 1:45:23.240 And where you're standing at the running back position right 1:45:23.320 --> 1:45:28.519 now is Joseph Randall, Darren McFadden, Lance Dunbar, Ryan Williams, which, 1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:33.280 like I said, hey, maybe the Cowboys weren't bluffing after all. 1:45:33.280 --> 1:45:36.000 I mean, Ryan Williams second round pick in twenty eleven. 1:45:36.200 --> 1:45:38.840 By by the way, Randall has been basically totally cleared 1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:43.599 from the You're from any illegal wrongdoing. When the police 1:45:43.640 --> 1:45:46.639 out here in OTA's is Randall taking the first team 1:45:46.720 --> 1:45:50.240 snaps out here at running back, Oh, it's I think McFadden. 1:45:50.280 --> 1:45:54.840 We run dmc all. I think I think McFadden. I 1:45:54.880 --> 1:45:58.439 think they're gonna make They're gonna make Randall. They're gonna 1:45:58.479 --> 1:46:02.400 make Randall earn his spot on and he absolutely should 1:46:02.439 --> 1:46:05.640 have to. Ye. I think that's only fair. Yeah, I 1:46:05.760 --> 1:46:08.240 believe we've got coach Eberflus right now, So I'm gonna 1:46:08.240 --> 1:46:11.000 bail out. Okay, gonna take my headset here. Okay, thank 1:46:11.000 --> 1:46:14.439 you very much. Bill, special treat for us to add 1:46:14.520 --> 1:46:18.200 Eberflus the linebacker coach slides in. This would be the 1:46:18.280 --> 1:46:22.000 man who is the linebacker whisperer in who is looking 1:46:22.320 --> 1:46:26.280 very very happy with the team owners. Yeah, and coach, congratulations. 1:46:26.360 --> 1:46:31.040 First off of grabbing Damian and Wilson, and talk a 1:46:31.120 --> 1:46:33.280 little bit about and I and I've had the great 1:46:33.320 --> 1:46:35.040 fortune to bump into you and even in the parking 1:46:35.080 --> 1:46:37.360 lot of the hallway, and and you've been nice enough 1:46:37.400 --> 1:46:40.160 to always ask ask him answer my questions. But talk 1:46:40.160 --> 1:46:42.479 a little bit about Damian. I mean, I love the tape. 1:46:42.479 --> 1:46:44.160 I love what I've seen the player, but I know 1:46:44.280 --> 1:46:46.559 you have to love him even more. Yeah, I mean, 1:46:46.600 --> 1:46:49.120 here's a lot of good things to like about this player. Um. 1:46:49.360 --> 1:46:51.760 You know. Number one is his motor. He likes he 1:46:51.880 --> 1:46:53.519 plays the game in the right way, So that's what 1:46:53.640 --> 1:46:54.920 we look at and we want to make sure he 1:46:55.000 --> 1:46:57.840 does that. And then the movement skills he has, we 1:46:58.000 --> 1:46:59.960 like those things in turns on the tape. You know, 1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:02.120 he's able to play in space, and as you know, 1:47:02.280 --> 1:47:04.200 the college game is that way. In the programs that 1:47:04.280 --> 1:47:06.880 way a lot too. Uh. Nowadays, you know, eighty percent 1:47:06.920 --> 1:47:09.160 of it's going to be an eleven personnel. We're gonna 1:47:09.160 --> 1:47:10.840 be in Nickels, So he has to be able to 1:47:10.920 --> 1:47:14.160 fit into that will and Mike spot um in our 1:47:14.240 --> 1:47:18.560 defensive scheme. Um. But he does all those things, you know, 1:47:18.760 --> 1:47:20.640 And then you know, the last thing is you know, 1:47:20.880 --> 1:47:23.200 for him be able to learn the scheme and be 1:47:23.240 --> 1:47:25.280 able to fit into those things in terms of what 1:47:25.439 --> 1:47:28.719 we have in our room already. So we're excited about 1:47:28.800 --> 1:47:31.200 him his future and I can't wait to hit for 1:47:31.280 --> 1:47:33.839 him to get here. This might as well be twenty fourteen. 1:47:34.040 --> 1:47:35.680 I mean, we go into the fourth round and the 1:47:35.720 --> 1:47:39.160 Cowboys get a workman like, oh, take it all day, 1:47:40.040 --> 1:47:42.280 he can do it. What I mean, can you obviously 1:47:42.400 --> 1:47:45.800 really successful rookie season from Anthony Hitchins? How does how 1:47:45.880 --> 1:47:48.720 does Damien relate to it? To hitch And I mean 1:47:48.920 --> 1:47:50.600 I start I feel like there's got to be some 1:47:50.720 --> 1:47:53.120 kind of bomb between those guys given the similarities there 1:47:53.640 --> 1:47:56.360 and how they can play off each other and help 1:47:56.400 --> 1:47:58.600 the depth in your linebacker corps. Yeah, I mean, you 1:47:58.680 --> 1:48:01.479 know those guys are They're similar in some reguards, in 1:48:01.800 --> 1:48:04.120 different and in a lot of ways. But you know, 1:48:04.200 --> 1:48:06.160 I think what you look at when you bring a 1:48:06.240 --> 1:48:08.320 guy in and I always do this as I keep 1:48:08.360 --> 1:48:10.639 an open mind when I look at the whole group 1:48:11.120 --> 1:48:12.800 every single year, you got to kind of wipe it 1:48:12.880 --> 1:48:14.799 clean and say, okay, now let's look at these guys 1:48:15.400 --> 1:48:17.960 separately and then look look at him collectively and how 1:48:18.000 --> 1:48:21.080 do they fit together. So his ability to play the Sam, 1:48:21.200 --> 1:48:23.800 the mic and the will positions, you know, who's up 1:48:23.840 --> 1:48:27.000 for the game. That's really big for us as an 1:48:27.080 --> 1:48:30.760 organization because now the combinations are more you know, it's 1:48:30.800 --> 1:48:33.080 not like, oh, he's only played Sam. Well, then the 1:48:33.160 --> 1:48:35.240 combinations aren't as good if you've got a guy that's 1:48:35.240 --> 1:48:38.759 got versatility. Now we got like we had in Saint Louis, 1:48:39.200 --> 1:48:41.840 who we have opened for the game. Yeah, exactly what 1:48:41.960 --> 1:48:44.680 we had. We had Hitchens, right, we had Bruce, and 1:48:44.760 --> 1:48:47.040 then we had we had wilbur Yeah, those are the 1:48:47.120 --> 1:48:48.920 three guys that were really up for the game. You know, 1:48:49.000 --> 1:48:51.400 the combinations was there? You know, we're there And did 1:48:51.439 --> 1:48:53.400 we played that that great during the game. No, but 1:48:53.520 --> 1:48:56.360 we made some plays to win the game. You yeah, 1:48:56.479 --> 1:48:58.040 you know, so we made a few plays to win. 1:48:58.479 --> 1:49:00.600 So that's what I'm talking about. You gotta have versatility 1:49:00.720 --> 1:49:02.600 and that's this young man brings that to us. And 1:49:02.760 --> 1:49:05.799 one thing I loved about Wilson watching him, it's passion. 1:49:06.000 --> 1:49:08.240 I hated to come off the field. He'd tough his 1:49:08.280 --> 1:49:11.240 way through injuries. Um. Is that something that you know, 1:49:11.360 --> 1:49:14.439 maybe could see a big presence on special teams as well, 1:49:14.560 --> 1:49:16.800 even as a rookie. Yeah. I mean, you know, Rich 1:49:16.880 --> 1:49:19.400 and I are always working together because you know, we're 1:49:19.720 --> 1:49:21.519 we're on the same page of what we're looking for. 1:49:21.640 --> 1:49:25.040 We're looking for athletic players that have, you know, some 1:49:25.200 --> 1:49:27.640 size to him because I think in special teams you 1:49:27.720 --> 1:49:29.720 need some size to anchor on the punt team and 1:49:30.160 --> 1:49:32.320 to take on the blocks on the on the kickoff 1:49:32.400 --> 1:49:35.280 return and all those types of things and and you 1:49:35.320 --> 1:49:37.360 know bully type of you know blockers and get off 1:49:37.360 --> 1:49:39.960 them on the kickoff and those those things that Rich 1:49:40.080 --> 1:49:42.240 likes to talk about. But and the same thing is 1:49:42.360 --> 1:49:44.280 really for me. You know, he has to build it. 1:49:44.680 --> 1:49:47.400 He has a he's a longer, longer armed guy. You know, 1:49:47.439 --> 1:49:50.360 he's like thirty three inch armor coach to that, and 1:49:50.479 --> 1:49:52.160 he can do a good job of really extending. Now 1:49:52.200 --> 1:49:54.639 he hasn't been doing that in college, so that's one 1:49:54.680 --> 1:49:56.439 thing that we're going to need to work on with him, 1:49:56.760 --> 1:49:59.720 you know, in terms of using his length and separating. 1:49:59.800 --> 1:50:01.800 But that's a skill that can be taught and a 1:50:01.840 --> 1:50:04.200 skill can he can enhance and improve on just because 1:50:04.240 --> 1:50:06.320 of his frame of his body. Yeah, thirty three and 1:50:06.400 --> 1:50:08.679 three quarters in charms, So he definitely has the length, 1:50:09.000 --> 1:50:12.240 I know. I mean, versatility is the key, and I 1:50:12.360 --> 1:50:14.800 know you just we're talking about that. But for a rookie, 1:50:14.840 --> 1:50:16.479 I mean, is there a spot that you like him 1:50:16.560 --> 1:50:19.000 the best at starting out, especially with the amount of 1:50:19.040 --> 1:50:21.640 older guys above him on the depth chart right now? 1:50:21.760 --> 1:50:23.640 Just getting his feet went yeah, I mean, it's hard 1:50:23.680 --> 1:50:25.920 for me to say that right now. Let's take a 1:50:25.960 --> 1:50:28.200 look at him, Let's bring him in and we'll see 1:50:28.320 --> 1:50:31.160 where he fits into the group. But he's certainly going 1:50:31.200 --> 1:50:33.240 to be a big, a huge piece of that Coach, 1:50:33.320 --> 1:50:35.080 thanks a lot for joining us. And then I'm still 1:50:35.080 --> 1:50:37.680 in a similar players, I know you're excited about having him. 1:50:37.880 --> 1:50:40.240 You've just done a great job with all these linebackers. 1:50:40.320 --> 1:50:42.600 Every week it's like who's up, who's down, but you 1:50:42.720 --> 1:50:46.240 put everybody out there plays their ass off and that's 1:50:46.280 --> 1:50:47.640 a credit to you and the guys you have. So 1:50:48.000 --> 1:50:49.760 thank you very much, Joins, thanks for having me. Thank 1:50:49.800 --> 1:50:52.680 you very much, coach. Okay, do have said player here? 1:50:53.000 --> 1:50:57.960 Damon Wilson, the newly drafted linebacker from the University of Minnesota. Damon, 1:50:58.040 --> 1:51:01.240 welcome first off here with Ryan broad Us and David 1:51:01.320 --> 1:51:05.799 Hellman and Dane Brugler from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Welcome 1:51:06.200 --> 1:51:12.040 to the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you, thank you, well good Hey. 1:51:12.280 --> 1:51:15.560 We just had coach Mattie Reflus on and you know 1:51:15.720 --> 1:51:18.840 he was talking about all the versatility you have and 1:51:19.200 --> 1:51:21.960 all of us have had the opportunity to watch you 1:51:22.080 --> 1:51:25.640 on tape to really study you, and it's very impressive 1:51:25.720 --> 1:51:27.640 your ability to get to the football. The way you 1:51:27.760 --> 1:51:30.680 may plays this group in Dallas is the same way 1:51:30.720 --> 1:51:33.679 with coach he Reflus talk about though, you know, coming 1:51:33.760 --> 1:51:36.360 in here and getting an opportunity to play in a 1:51:36.479 --> 1:51:40.000 scheme where it really it highlights those things that you 1:51:40.120 --> 1:51:44.240 do very well. I mean, I'm very lucky to be 1:51:44.840 --> 1:51:47.400 have been got drafted some of Dallas Cowboys. I'm playing 1:51:47.479 --> 1:51:50.800 such a good scheme well, such good coaches. And on 1:51:51.000 --> 1:51:53.000 my visit, we talked about it a little bit and 1:51:53.479 --> 1:51:56.880 we talked about the versatility of me playing any of 1:51:56.960 --> 1:52:00.040 the three baptism and I'm just really excited to have 1:52:00.160 --> 1:52:05.439 started with that and I just give it all I got. Hey, Damien, 1:52:05.520 --> 1:52:08.639 congrats man Um. You know, just looking looking at your bio, 1:52:08.720 --> 1:52:11.680 looking at your tape, can you just kind of give 1:52:11.760 --> 1:52:14.320 us a sense We talked about your versatility in here 1:52:14.320 --> 1:52:15.720 before you got on the phone, but just kind of 1:52:15.760 --> 1:52:18.120 give us a sense of I guess what you would 1:52:18.120 --> 1:52:20.040 say your biggest strength is coming in here off the 1:52:20.120 --> 1:52:24.960 bat well, I get the defense lined up pretty well, 1:52:25.040 --> 1:52:28.000 and I say my biggest strait would be my tackling 1:52:28.080 --> 1:52:30.040 in my pursuit and you know, let's another give him 1:52:30.080 --> 1:52:33.599 up on the play, just tracking the ball wherever it goes, 1:52:33.920 --> 1:52:38.720 no matter how far it is. And Damien, you know, congratulations, 1:52:38.800 --> 1:52:42.280 You've had, you know, a different journey than other people take. 1:52:42.760 --> 1:52:45.040 You know, started at Alcorn State, then go to the 1:52:45.120 --> 1:52:48.320 community college level, then end up at Minnesota. Kind of 1:52:48.640 --> 1:52:53.519 talk about your journey and how you ended up here. Uh, well, 1:52:53.680 --> 1:52:56.280 you know, I wasn't highly recruited out of high school, 1:52:56.720 --> 1:52:59.200 so all Coign State was really my only offer. But 1:52:59.280 --> 1:53:04.240 I really didn't gas, so I transport uh Jones Junior College. 1:53:04.280 --> 1:53:06.519 You don't had a pretty good year that picked up 1:53:06.560 --> 1:53:09.720 those college ships. Before I graduated, I already had a 1:53:09.800 --> 1:53:13.360 cousin that I went to Minnesota. He played running back 1:53:13.439 --> 1:53:15.920 day to corb. He actually in the draft too, And 1:53:16.200 --> 1:53:20.280 uh yeah, that was it right there. Minnesota was my 1:53:20.960 --> 1:53:24.080 charge from that part off Damon, you know, and again 1:53:24.160 --> 1:53:26.400 watching you on tape and and the fact that you 1:53:26.520 --> 1:53:28.800 are you know, played in the Big Ten, a very 1:53:28.920 --> 1:53:33.479 physical conference. Uh but you know a guy that you know, 1:53:33.560 --> 1:53:35.479 when you when you talk about your height and your 1:53:35.479 --> 1:53:38.400 weight and all that and your ability and stuff, you're 1:53:38.439 --> 1:53:40.559 one of those guys that could take on blocks, get 1:53:40.600 --> 1:53:43.800 off blocks, go make plays though. Talk about though, the 1:53:43.880 --> 1:53:47.080 fact that and how that helped you playing at Minnesota, 1:53:47.240 --> 1:53:50.040 lining up against Ohio State in the snow, and all 1:53:50.080 --> 1:53:53.160 those different teams that you've played against through your career, 1:53:53.400 --> 1:53:56.559 and how it's prepared you to step into the National 1:53:56.640 --> 1:54:01.680 Football League. Well, playing in the big Pain, I'll say 1:54:01.720 --> 1:54:04.840 that they are I'm in a huge right athletic. Yeah, 1:54:06.040 --> 1:54:09.080 like most typical NFL alignment that you'll find out of 1:54:09.080 --> 1:54:12.160 any conference. So I think playing against those guys from 1:54:12.160 --> 1:54:14.280 week to week was a good practice for this. Well, 1:54:14.280 --> 1:54:17.439 I'm about to go into right now. Yeah, well, good, 1:54:17.560 --> 1:54:19.840 well listen, dame. We know that we're gonna let you 1:54:19.920 --> 1:54:22.800 go here, but thank you so much for taking the time. Yeah, 1:54:22.880 --> 1:54:25.720 congratulations to you. We're you know again, all of us 1:54:25.760 --> 1:54:27.280 have had a chance to sit down and watch you 1:54:27.400 --> 1:54:30.720 play at the University of Minnesota. The folks there in Minneapolis, 1:54:30.760 --> 1:54:33.480 Saint Paul should be very proud of what you were 1:54:33.520 --> 1:54:36.120 as a player there and now what you're looking forward 1:54:36.160 --> 1:54:39.160 to doing here with Dallas. A matter of fact, Minnesota 1:54:39.320 --> 1:54:42.000 is on the preseason schedule this year, so I'm sure 1:54:42.040 --> 1:54:44.880 we'll get to see you firsthand making some plays against 1:54:44.920 --> 1:54:48.040 their guys. But again, congratulations and we look forward to 1:54:48.040 --> 1:54:50.520 seeing you down the road. All right, thank you for 1:54:50.600 --> 1:54:56.200 having me. Ill appreciate it, all right, Damian Wilson, nice kid. Yeah, 1:54:57.040 --> 1:54:58.640 I'll tell you what. It really is funny to me 1:54:58.800 --> 1:55:03.440 the U. I mean, how how far away are Iowa 1:55:03.520 --> 1:55:06.840 and Minnesota? I mean, big ten guys tackle monsters. Four 1:55:06.920 --> 1:55:10.280 frown Eberflus goes in and and gets the little fist 1:55:10.320 --> 1:55:13.280 pump action on uh. And you know so Anthony Hingins 1:55:13.320 --> 1:55:15.200 and and and Damian Wilson, I mean this, I mean, 1:55:15.240 --> 1:55:18.800 the comparisons are gonna be there, you know, hopefully hopefully 1:55:18.880 --> 1:55:22.000 for Damian Hitchins's success as a rookie. You know, hopefully 1:55:22.040 --> 1:55:24.600 he's not held to too high of a standard because obviously, 1:55:24.640 --> 1:55:27.160 you know, Hitchins went in there, like Mattiberflus said here 1:55:27.200 --> 1:55:29.000 on the radio a couple of minutes ago, you know, 1:55:29.160 --> 1:55:33.840 eleven eleven starts last last season, ultime positions, just a 1:55:33.920 --> 1:55:37.120 really outstanding rookie season. So well, the one thing, expectations 1:55:37.200 --> 1:55:39.960 will be lifted, I think because of that, and I 1:55:40.040 --> 1:55:42.760 think it goes through with again with Rod Marinelli. It's 1:55:42.760 --> 1:55:46.080 about accountability and the one thing when you play in 1:55:46.160 --> 1:55:49.080 this scheme is you you're not gonna sit there and 1:55:49.120 --> 1:55:51.200 say I'm not gonna be on I'm not gonna play today. 1:55:51.560 --> 1:55:54.040 You know, if you're if you're talented enough, and you 1:55:54.080 --> 1:55:56.760 could play a couple of different positions, and you know 1:55:57.080 --> 1:56:01.040 they're Anthony Hitchins. He you know, there's times he probably thought, Okay, day, 1:56:01.040 --> 1:56:03.560 I'm gonna be the backup and then something happens and 1:56:03.680 --> 1:56:05.440 he's playing that, you know, and he's played at two 1:56:05.520 --> 1:56:08.920 or three different spots in a particular game. And so 1:56:09.360 --> 1:56:12.640 I think that's something that that that these these young guys, 1:56:12.640 --> 1:56:15.200 and especially a guy like Damian Wilson, who you know, 1:56:15.280 --> 1:56:18.280 Mattie Reflus talked about, can play as them. Mike can't play, 1:56:18.360 --> 1:56:20.880 but he keeps an open mind about it. I love 1:56:21.120 --> 1:56:24.240 I love that right now he doesn't necessarily know which 1:56:24.320 --> 1:56:26.880 spot he's best, you know, gonna start at, and they 1:56:26.920 --> 1:56:28.320 and they will and they figure it out. Yet they 1:56:28.320 --> 1:56:30.080 will fire. And they did it with Anthony Hitchens, they 1:56:30.120 --> 1:56:32.560 did at the Hingens. So anyway, okay, we're moving along 1:56:32.600 --> 1:56:36.240 in the draft. Here we are now the last pick 1:56:36.320 --> 1:56:39.480 of the round. I believe that just happened, and that 1:56:39.640 --> 1:56:42.680 was Trey Walker defensive back from Texas Southern. That would 1:56:42.680 --> 1:56:46.360 be Baltimore's pick at one thirty six. I'll recap uh, 1:56:47.320 --> 1:56:49.240 Jake Ryan, let me go from one twenty nine, just 1:56:49.280 --> 1:56:51.440 to get you up to speed. Case you're out there 1:56:51.560 --> 1:56:53.560 driving around or whatever or listening to us and you're 1:56:53.600 --> 1:56:56.920 you're you're just want to know. The Green Bay Packers 1:56:56.960 --> 1:56:59.920 took Jake Ryan, the linebacker from UH from a minute 1:57:00.080 --> 1:57:02.680 from Michigan. Excuse me, Terry Pool to tackle from San 1:57:02.680 --> 1:57:07.000 Diego State went to Seattle. Shack Mason, a personal favorite. 1:57:07.720 --> 1:57:10.560 Dame Brudos guards center from Georgia Tech went to the 1:57:10.600 --> 1:57:13.960 New England Patriots, who continue to build rebuild their team. 1:57:14.040 --> 1:57:17.360 They're like their third and fourth the round picks something 1:57:17.400 --> 1:57:19.840 better than their second round pick in my opinion, Yeah, yeah, 1:57:20.040 --> 1:57:21.560 they've I love what the Patriots I've done in the 1:57:21.640 --> 1:57:24.000 third and fourth round. Hated their second round pick. Jordan Richards. Yeah, 1:57:24.000 --> 1:57:25.600 I love what they've done. Third, fourth, They they have 1:57:25.760 --> 1:57:29.680 they have a vision. Deandre's Smelter wide receiver from Georgia Tech. 1:57:29.760 --> 1:57:32.160 He's interesting, is it San Francisco. There's some I heard 1:57:32.200 --> 1:57:35.160 some medical questions or a character duestion. It's it's medical. 1:57:35.480 --> 1:57:37.320 There's no question about that. He has a lot of 1:57:37.360 --> 1:57:40.680 medical questions, but so intriguing for a baseball player. Six 1:57:40.760 --> 1:57:42.640 two two twenty five. You know he's in at the 1:57:42.720 --> 1:57:46.040 Marriest Thomas Mold, but yeah, can you stay on the 1:57:46.120 --> 1:57:49.160 field for you had an ACL injury most recently has 1:57:49.200 --> 1:57:52.240 some shoulder stuff. So if he can stay healthy, DeAndre 1:57:52.280 --> 1:57:55.080 Smelter could end up being a huge steal in this draft. 1:57:55.160 --> 1:57:59.920 Denver Broncos then to select Max Garcia, a center from Florida. 1:58:00.080 --> 1:58:03.000 I thought he was a really stiff legged, straight legged guy. 1:58:03.120 --> 1:58:06.520 Position blocker. Wasn't really high on him. But maybe with 1:58:06.600 --> 1:58:08.600 the Denver of the schemes and stuff like that, that 1:58:08.720 --> 1:58:11.960 there is another Florida lineman off the board. That's what 1:58:12.160 --> 1:58:14.000 three now? Yeah, you see, And then again we ask 1:58:14.080 --> 1:58:16.480 why the team is not any good a lot of 1:58:16.600 --> 1:58:19.080 and that they're running back went pretty early too, Okay. 1:58:19.160 --> 1:58:21.080 The next would be the Seattle Seahawks were back on 1:58:21.160 --> 1:58:25.280 the clock here and it was Mark Glewinsky. Uh Glinsky 1:58:25.480 --> 1:58:28.320 is that right? Daniel Glewinsky. He he played actually with 1:58:28.480 --> 1:58:31.840 Kevin White at Lackawanna Junior College and then they both 1:58:31.960 --> 1:58:35.920 ended up ending up at West Virginia. So uh, Glewinsky's 1:58:36.440 --> 1:58:39.800 he's a tough throwback kid guards and can also play tackles, 1:58:39.840 --> 1:58:43.680 so as a versatility. Okay, one thirty five. Since a 1:58:43.800 --> 1:58:48.000 Bengals took Marcus Hardison, they've had success with Arizona State 1:58:48.080 --> 1:58:51.160 players in the past, So Marvin Lewis and the Gang 1:58:51.200 --> 1:58:53.360 grab a defensive tackle that I think is one of 1:58:53.360 --> 1:58:57.640 those guys. It looks pretty underachieves a lot, and again, 1:58:57.680 --> 1:58:59.840 I think you'd have to say, if they could get 1:59:00.160 --> 1:59:01.760 on track, that he could be. But they've done it 1:59:01.800 --> 1:59:04.480 before with those Arizona State players, So let's see. And 1:59:04.560 --> 1:59:06.800 then you talked about Trey Walker or you did not 1:59:06.840 --> 1:59:10.600 talk at Trey Walk I'm sorry. The Baltimore Ravens finished around. 1:59:11.120 --> 1:59:14.840 They took Trey Walker. Interesting prospect he is, Yeah, he is, 1:59:14.920 --> 1:59:18.120 and a big player. Who will you know him? I 1:59:18.200 --> 1:59:21.280 don't know him, but I mean I've read up on 1:59:21.400 --> 1:59:23.920 him because he was sort of a late bloomer on 1:59:24.000 --> 1:59:28.680 everybody's radar, not Dane Brugler's radar, I'm sure, but I'm sorry. 1:59:28.680 --> 1:59:30.840 A player we just talked about a lot greed Jared 1:59:30.880 --> 1:59:32.600 off the board. Now to the Falcons. Yeah, the Falcon 1:59:33.120 --> 1:59:35.600 The Falcons just uh you knew it couldn't last forever. 1:59:35.880 --> 1:59:37.800 You couldn't last forever. This is a pick that's just 1:59:37.920 --> 1:59:41.000 been much traded. It would be picked one thirty seven. 1:59:41.440 --> 1:59:45.160 It's gone from Minnesota, from Tampa, through Buffalo and now 1:59:45.240 --> 1:59:47.520 in the hands the Atlanta Falcons. So they've got him 1:59:47.520 --> 1:59:50.040 playing three four or are they moving back to four three? 1:59:50.440 --> 1:59:55.840 What's the Seattle's Seattle? That was a short lived experiment. Yeah, 1:59:56.000 --> 1:59:58.480 so here he gets definitely a fourth three player. Yeah 1:59:58.520 --> 1:59:59.720 that's all. That's what I was gonna say, is that 1:59:59.760 --> 2:00:02.320 does makes sense for a three or four team. So 2:00:02.560 --> 2:00:06.520 Grady Jarrett the defensive tackle, he's the He's the son 2:00:06.600 --> 2:00:09.160 of Jesse Tuggle by the way, so he fits perfectly. 2:00:10.080 --> 2:00:14.120 His uncle, his or slash godfather's Ray ray Lewis. He 2:00:14.200 --> 2:00:16.800 works out with Ray Lewis on a daily basis. He 2:00:16.920 --> 2:00:19.760 has those intangibles you're looking for. He's got very high motor. 2:00:20.560 --> 2:00:22.760 I call him, you know, the little tea cup because 2:00:22.800 --> 2:00:25.560 he's he's short and stout. You know, he's he's able 2:00:25.640 --> 2:00:28.960 to be that quick penetrator, but he doesn't all he 2:00:29.000 --> 2:00:31.440 doesn't give up ground either. So um, he's not going 2:00:31.520 --> 2:00:33.440 to fit every scheme, but at this point in the 2:00:33.520 --> 2:00:37.320 fifth round, you know, take him. He's also joining Clemson 2:00:37.360 --> 2:00:41.280 teammate Vic Beasley in Atlanta, which is not more than two. 2:00:41.600 --> 2:00:44.040 You know, it's interesting because some people will compared him 2:00:44.080 --> 2:00:47.200 because size wise and so forth with Aaron Donald. Yeah, 2:00:47.280 --> 2:00:50.960 and Aaron Donald is a whatyo tenth of the draft 2:00:53.720 --> 2:00:56.040 people comparing with Geno Atkins as well, who was a 2:00:56.080 --> 2:00:59.000 fourth round pick, and that typically when you've got that short, 2:00:59.360 --> 2:01:02.120 your little up right, you're gonna go fourth or fifth 2:01:02.200 --> 2:01:04.920 round under size. But Aaron Donald just he was off 2:01:04.960 --> 2:01:09.400 the charts with his athletics and his production at pitt 2:01:09.520 --> 2:01:12.240 as well. Grady Jarrett did not have as much production 2:01:12.360 --> 2:01:16.880 at Clemson, although he did affect a number of plays. Yeah, 2:01:16.960 --> 2:01:19.960 we got the secret audio from the war room when 2:01:20.080 --> 2:01:22.800 Jerry Jones, Jason Garret, mattieverflu Saal grab on them jump 2:01:22.840 --> 2:01:26.520 on the phone with Damian Wilson. So let's go to that, Damien. Yes, 2:01:26.600 --> 2:01:28.960 we're calling you in here from the draft room, missus 2:01:29.040 --> 2:01:33.440 Jerry Jones with the Dallas Cowboys. So we're put turning 2:01:33.520 --> 2:01:37.000 your card in and congratulations, you're gonna have that star 2:01:37.200 --> 2:01:40.360 on your helmet and we're proud of it too. I've 2:01:40.400 --> 2:01:43.160 got your head coach sitting here with me. I've got 2:01:43.240 --> 2:01:46.880 your defensive coordinator, I've got you linebacker coach. But the 2:01:46.960 --> 2:01:49.800 one that's grinned the most is the special team's coach. 2:01:50.640 --> 2:01:53.400 So he's said over here besides you, and he did 2:01:53.480 --> 2:01:56.960 a big old and up. So let's go to work, cowboy. 2:01:58.200 --> 2:02:04.040 All right, here's the coach garage head coach. Yeah, well, Damien, Well, congratulations, man, 2:02:05.120 --> 2:02:07.240 thank you. Are you're ready to get to work? Yeah, 2:02:07.280 --> 2:02:09.520 I'm ready to go right now. We literally got five 2:02:09.640 --> 2:02:13.880 coaches around, big smiles on their faces. Yeah, we've been 2:02:13.920 --> 2:02:17.920 hanging on here. We're excited to have you. I'm gonna 2:02:17.920 --> 2:02:22.280 side with some I hear some noise in the background too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:02:22.400 --> 2:02:24.920 that's that's great stuff. I'm gonna see you on Thursday. 2:02:24.960 --> 2:02:27.240 Get ready to get to work. All right, all right, man, 2:02:27.400 --> 2:02:31.400 take care of Damien. We're going on. How's it going, buddy, Congratulations, 2:02:31.840 --> 2:02:35.800 go a lot better enough. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, this 2:02:36.000 --> 2:02:37.480 is a great spot for you. I can't wait to 2:02:37.520 --> 2:02:39.480 get my hands on you. And we know, like we 2:02:39.520 --> 2:02:41.240 did in the room when you came on your thirty visit, 2:02:41.320 --> 2:02:43.680 I was gonna teach you one thing at a time 2:02:43.760 --> 2:02:46.440 and and get going and just improve every day. Okay, 2:02:47.200 --> 2:02:48.800 and we're gonna work at it. And you don't tell 2:02:48.800 --> 2:02:50.320 you what. You're gonna make a lot of plays for us. 2:02:50.680 --> 2:02:59.880 So I'm exciting going about it. Okay, I'll love it. 2:03:00.040 --> 2:03:04.360 TV congratulations, It must have just gone up on the TV. 2:03:04.560 --> 2:03:22.800 That's probably what happened. As oh man, they're about to 2:03:22.800 --> 2:03:26.320 go crazy again because his cousin. His cousin was taken 2:03:26.400 --> 2:03:30.160 by the Tennessee Titans. So yeah, so yeah, David, if 2:03:30.200 --> 2:03:32.560 you're thinking running back for the Cowboys at this point, 2:03:32.680 --> 2:03:35.960 you're it's Jedi E or bust. Well, you know one Crockett, 2:03:36.160 --> 2:03:40.400 Yeah you got you got another guy, Thomas Rawls. Thomas Rawls. 2:03:41.120 --> 2:03:43.720 Thomas Rawls is a guy that played at Michigan for 2:03:43.880 --> 2:03:47.480 three years and then transferred to Central Michigan. And I'll 2:03:47.520 --> 2:03:49.560 tell you this, though, you talk about a guy that's 2:03:49.600 --> 2:03:52.400 a finisher, you know, I mean he you know, there's 2:03:52.400 --> 2:03:54.840 a lot of times at Central Michigan that they missed 2:03:54.840 --> 2:03:57.040 guys like Fisher. They're blocking for him because this kid 2:03:57.120 --> 2:03:58.920 had to create a lot on his own. And uh, 2:03:59.480 --> 2:04:01.440 you could see he was a talented football player, you know, 2:04:01.520 --> 2:04:04.440 coming from like say, coming from Eversity of Michigan. Uh, 2:04:04.600 --> 2:04:07.080 you know, when he gets in the second level, he's 2:04:07.120 --> 2:04:09.040 gonna finish the runs. So he gets on the outside, 2:04:09.160 --> 2:04:11.160 they trying to he gonna step out of bounce. No, 2:04:11.520 --> 2:04:13.520 he's gonna lower his shoulder. He's gonna hit you right 2:04:13.520 --> 2:04:16.080 in the mouth. I would say, if that's, if that's 2:04:16.280 --> 2:04:17.720 if Rawles is a guy. I mean, I had him 2:04:17.760 --> 2:04:20.120 in my board in the fifth round. I still think 2:04:20.160 --> 2:04:21.960 a GI is in the play here, y, I do. 2:04:22.520 --> 2:04:24.160 I do think. I think there's gonna come a point 2:04:24.200 --> 2:04:27.280 in time where where the where the uh, the risk 2:04:27.840 --> 2:04:30.560 is just totally now. Okay, here we go. This is 2:04:30.560 --> 2:04:32.400 a guy we're gonna go with and and and and 2:04:32.600 --> 2:04:34.800 and have at it. I'm gonna I'm gonna make a 2:04:35.760 --> 2:04:37.800 or I'm gonna I'm gonna make a projection, and you 2:04:37.880 --> 2:04:40.000 tell me if I'm off base or not. Is I mean, 2:04:40.560 --> 2:04:42.280 you know, when we talk about a GI, he being 2:04:42.920 --> 2:04:45.480 top forty, top fifty talent, assuming his knee checks out, 2:04:45.720 --> 2:04:48.640 he's a guy that if you draft him, I assume, 2:04:48.760 --> 2:04:51.920 if he's healthy, he's got the talent to be one 2:04:52.000 --> 2:04:53.680 A or one B. You know, I mean, if you're 2:04:53.720 --> 2:04:56.000 saying McFadden's you're one, then I think a gi he's 2:04:56.080 --> 2:04:57.960 right there at the top of the heap above Randall, 2:04:58.080 --> 2:05:01.640 Dunbar and Williams. We feel good about that. Yeah, I 2:05:01.920 --> 2:05:03.480 have no problem with the player. I thought he was 2:05:03.560 --> 2:05:05.560 probably a player that's gonna be taken in the second 2:05:05.680 --> 2:05:07.880 round when so and and and Dane's told you this 2:05:08.280 --> 2:05:11.840 because he's done all the research that the player is 2:05:12.600 --> 2:05:14.480 ready to go. Now, this is not a way, this 2:05:14.600 --> 2:05:19.360 is not this. Yeah, but okay, So if you take 2:05:19.480 --> 2:05:24.080 Rawls or dig up another running back here, um, where 2:05:24.120 --> 2:05:25.960 do you see like where where do you see Rawles 2:05:26.040 --> 2:05:28.040 factoring into that depth chart as a rookie. I mean, 2:05:28.200 --> 2:05:30.520 if you're talking about this late in the draft, I'm 2:05:30.520 --> 2:05:32.920 just gonna have to eat these Okay. How how you're 2:05:32.920 --> 2:05:34.720 not thinking about a guy who can carry as much 2:05:34.720 --> 2:05:36.600 of the load right away, are you? And he's a 2:05:36.640 --> 2:05:39.320 seventh rounder then right, I think you're looking at a 2:05:39.400 --> 2:05:42.240 seventh round like that. But he's a practice squad guy, 2:05:42.320 --> 2:05:45.360 then well no, but but maybe and maybe heat the 2:05:45.400 --> 2:05:48.120 other four that's but can he beat can he beat Randall? 2:05:48.240 --> 2:05:51.320 And can he beat Williams? That's gonna be the question 2:05:51.360 --> 2:05:54.720 because they've signed dunn Bar, they're gonna go with McFadden. 2:05:54.800 --> 2:05:58.520 It's Williams and Randall to have roster spots exactly. Yeah, 2:05:58.600 --> 2:06:01.880 it's seventh round. You're right built to me. Okay, if 2:06:01.960 --> 2:06:04.720 that's the case, take a gi that dis take it. 2:06:05.160 --> 2:06:07.520 That's the guy they could put. I'm just saying, no, no, no, 2:06:07.600 --> 2:06:09.400 no no, that's the guy that could put the others 2:06:09.440 --> 2:06:12.680 on the street. I'm sitting here thinking, like I said, 2:06:12.760 --> 2:06:15.640 a gi ear bus because anybody else I'm not thinking 2:06:16.000 --> 2:06:18.320 I have confidence in to win a job, because i mean, 2:06:18.440 --> 2:06:20.560 four running backs is a lot they're not going to 2:06:20.640 --> 2:06:22.840 carry for one of those guys probably loses a job, 2:06:22.960 --> 2:06:25.520 as is maybe two if you draft a GII. So 2:06:26.400 --> 2:06:29.760 it'll be interesting with the way they've loaded up on 2:06:29.880 --> 2:06:33.200 fullbacks here. Yeah, they got two on the roster right now. Yeah, 2:06:33.240 --> 2:06:35.000 here's that they would love to have a fullback on 2:06:35.120 --> 2:06:38.320 this roster apparently, which maybe throw in that into the 2:06:38.400 --> 2:06:41.360 mix in the seventh round two if they really really 2:06:41.440 --> 2:06:43.120 want to go that route where they have a fullback 2:06:43.160 --> 2:06:45.840 on the roster, you assume that Darren McFadden is here, 2:06:46.760 --> 2:06:50.240 Lands Dunbar is definitely here. If you keep a fullback here, 2:06:50.840 --> 2:06:53.600 if you keep a fullback you're talking about, I mean, 2:06:54.000 --> 2:06:56.360 you're somebody that you probably don't want to let go of. 2:06:56.480 --> 2:06:58.560 It's probably losing a job this summer. That'll be I mean, 2:06:58.600 --> 2:07:00.400 even if you don't draft a GI, it'll be interesting 2:07:00.440 --> 2:07:03.600 to look at. But you know, it's certainly I certainly 2:07:03.680 --> 2:07:05.440 think they could use the boost if they can get 2:07:05.520 --> 2:07:08.360 this kid. Going back to what Brian said about Rawls, 2:07:08.600 --> 2:07:12.040 My biggest thing with him that I worry about is, Yes, 2:07:12.160 --> 2:07:14.440 he'll go and he'll he'll hit the defender, he'll run 2:07:14.560 --> 2:07:17.480 over guys, but sometimes he passes up open lanes to 2:07:17.560 --> 2:07:20.600 do so, and I think he has almost too much 2:07:20.640 --> 2:07:24.160 of a hungry temperament to do that. Um, and you know, 2:07:24.280 --> 2:07:26.480 you wonder he was at Michigan for this first three years. 2:07:26.680 --> 2:07:29.480 I didn't find the field. Um, there's just some there's 2:07:29.480 --> 2:07:32.720 some baggage, there's some question marks. Uh so, but you 2:07:32.800 --> 2:07:35.080 do have a talented player. You watch his highlights and 2:07:35.120 --> 2:07:37.600 you go, WHOA, okay something here? How big is he 2:07:38.960 --> 2:07:41.920 two hundred? He's a good size. Yeah, I think he 2:07:42.040 --> 2:07:45.320 was two fifteen. He's not a scatback type. He's not 2:07:45.440 --> 2:07:48.360 Anne Bar type. He is a between the tackles guy 2:07:48.720 --> 2:07:51.520 five nine to fifteen. Yeah, he can, he can, he could. Okay, 2:07:51.640 --> 2:07:54.720 Heeney goes to Oakland linebacker from Kansas. Absolutely, Ben Heeny 2:07:54.800 --> 2:07:56.680 will go at set pick one for you. Let's take 2:07:56.720 --> 2:07:59.879 a break. We haven't done that yet today. Okay, everybody's 2:07:59.880 --> 2:08:03.200 a time out. Yeah, and give everybody a chance to 2:08:03.960 --> 2:08:06.200 catch your breath a little bit. This has been the 2:08:06.480 --> 2:08:09.480 wall to wall coverage of the NFL Draft here on 2:08:09.560 --> 2:08:12.280 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We'll be back in just a moment, 2:08:12.360 --> 2:08:16.360 introducing ATNT rollover data. You're unused planned data automatically rolls 2:08:16.360 --> 2:10:19.280 over the following He's a product. This is continuing coverage 2:10:19.320 --> 2:10:23.600 of the twenty fifteen NFL Draft on Dallas Cowboys dot com. 2:10:28.400 --> 2:10:31.440 Tom and you look inside the draft room where the 2:10:31.480 --> 2:10:35.240 Cowboys are waiting to make their fifth round selection, which 2:10:35.320 --> 2:10:38.760 is number one sixty three overall. I'm Bill Jones along 2:10:38.840 --> 2:10:41.880 with Brian brought us, Dane Brugler. David Hellman has stepped 2:10:41.920 --> 2:10:44.720 out for just a moment, but we appreciate you joining 2:10:44.840 --> 2:10:48.200 us or pick by pick coverage of the twenty fifteen 2:10:48.720 --> 2:10:51.240 NFL Draft. While we were in our little time out 2:10:51.280 --> 2:10:53.920 there the Washington Redskins a pick number one forty one 2:10:54.000 --> 2:10:58.800 selected Mark trell Spake, the linebacker from Arkansas. So we 2:10:58.960 --> 2:11:01.560 are some twenty two picks away from the Cowboys pick 2:11:01.640 --> 2:11:04.080 in the fifth round, number one sixty three. And again 2:11:04.120 --> 2:11:08.040 if you're just joining us, Damian Wilson, linebacker from Minnesota, 2:11:08.480 --> 2:11:11.720 just joined us live on the air, as did linebackers 2:11:11.800 --> 2:11:15.200 coach Maddi eber Flows as the Cowboys fourth round selection, 2:11:15.280 --> 2:11:18.880 number one twenty seven was at linebacker. Still no running 2:11:18.920 --> 2:11:22.320 backs in this draft class, and Jerry Jones was right, 2:11:22.520 --> 2:11:25.640 they're not valuing running back. We all didn't want to 2:11:25.640 --> 2:11:27.520 believe him. We all thought it was a smoke screen. 2:11:27.640 --> 2:11:31.280 We all thought a lot of negative things about you know, 2:11:31.400 --> 2:11:34.240 how you're going to go forward with the running backs 2:11:34.280 --> 2:11:36.640 currently on the roster. But they feel like right now 2:11:36.760 --> 2:11:39.040 that that's the route that they're going to go. So 2:11:39.280 --> 2:11:42.920 I again, at some point in time, and we're I'm 2:11:43.120 --> 2:11:45.600 beating a dead horse here, but at some point in time, 2:11:45.640 --> 2:11:48.839 there's gonna be some value, some value for Jay Age. 2:11:49.080 --> 2:11:51.360 I think there's got there's just there's gonna be value 2:11:51.360 --> 2:11:54.120 that if you, if you, unless they have him completely 2:11:54.240 --> 2:11:56.320 off the board, which I don't think they do right, 2:11:56.680 --> 2:12:00.680 then then that's you know, there's value there. But if 2:12:00.720 --> 2:12:02.560 we later find out that he's off the board, then 2:12:03.080 --> 2:12:05.520 Brian brought us to spend two hours of his life 2:12:05.560 --> 2:12:07.720 here talking about something that wasn't going to happen in 2:12:07.800 --> 2:12:09.760 the first place. Well, and that's that's the draft for you. 2:12:09.880 --> 2:12:13.280 Though you know it's happened with Clemings exactly, he just 2:12:13.400 --> 2:12:16.680 don't know. And looking at my top one hundred guys 2:12:16.720 --> 2:12:19.680 that are left now, obviously some of these are medical 2:12:19.800 --> 2:12:24.520 situations and with Lyle Collins another situation. But jayagi um 2:12:25.040 --> 2:12:30.320 efore Olamu, that's another medical situation. Michael Bennett, the defensive 2:12:30.320 --> 2:12:33.800 tackle out of Ohio State. Yeah, rickiem Nunez Rochez defensive 2:12:33.840 --> 2:12:37.600 tackle Southern miss Trey McBride, William and Mary the receiver. 2:12:37.680 --> 2:12:39.840 One of my favorite players this year. Charles Gains, a 2:12:39.920 --> 2:12:43.040 corner out of Louisville who has has some character stuff. 2:12:43.080 --> 2:12:44.600 So I think that's a reason why he's still on 2:12:44.640 --> 2:12:48.680 the board. Tyler Davison, defensive tackle Fresno State. And then 2:12:48.800 --> 2:12:51.640 Christian Covington, the defensive tackle out of Rice. Another medical 2:12:51.760 --> 2:12:53.840 thing going on with him. Had a had a knee 2:12:53.880 --> 2:12:55.720 issue and so I think that's why we still have 2:12:55.840 --> 2:12:58.680 him available on the board. You know, at this point, 2:12:58.800 --> 2:13:00.920 I here Huntley from you he was not my top 2:13:00.960 --> 2:13:03.560 one hundred, Okay, but he is still available. Yeah, Brett Hundley, 2:13:03.600 --> 2:13:06.280 the quarterback from UCLA is still available. You know. We've 2:13:06.400 --> 2:13:09.840 also talked about the fact that the Cowboys could stand 2:13:10.080 --> 2:13:13.720 adding more to their inventory in the secondary, and there 2:13:13.760 --> 2:13:16.880 are some cornerbacks that are available right now that might 2:13:16.960 --> 2:13:21.120 fit into this fifth round range, including Kevin White from Tcue, 2:13:21.240 --> 2:13:23.920 Corey Shepard from Kansas. It was a local product out 2:13:23.960 --> 2:13:27.400 of Mesquite, Texas, and so they can still go in 2:13:27.480 --> 2:13:30.240 a number of directions here. They still haven't replaced Dwayne 2:13:30.320 --> 2:13:33.440 Harris on this roster, and of course with his special 2:13:33.520 --> 2:13:36.160 team's ability, the backup wide receiver who had a very 2:13:36.280 --> 2:13:42.920 nice deal in free agency. And Adrian Amos is the 2:13:43.280 --> 2:13:46.920 pick here of who is on the Chicago Chicago Bears. 2:13:46.920 --> 2:13:50.080 Adrian Amos, the safety from Penn State. Yeah, and I'll 2:13:50.080 --> 2:13:53.520 tell you what, a lot of people liked him as 2:13:53.680 --> 2:13:55.440 a one of those guys that could be like a 2:13:55.720 --> 2:14:00.520 true free safety, and you know that's I think that's 2:14:00.680 --> 2:14:04.760 where he fits best. You know, there's uh you see 2:14:04.840 --> 2:14:08.240 him play back. I think he's more of a cover 2:14:08.440 --> 2:14:11.160 guy than he is a physical get up on you 2:14:12.040 --> 2:14:15.200 played downhill. He will make tackles, he will come forward. 2:14:15.800 --> 2:14:18.000 U there were times, and I go back to watching 2:14:18.080 --> 2:14:21.080 the Central Florida game when you know with their receiver 2:14:21.240 --> 2:14:23.520 with Perry Ball going down the field and him having 2:14:23.520 --> 2:14:25.720 to run over and try. I don't see a guy 2:14:25.760 --> 2:14:28.000 that's really fast. I don't see a very quick guy. 2:14:28.320 --> 2:14:30.840 I see a guy, though, is a willing tackler, but 2:14:30.960 --> 2:14:35.560 he does have that ability to cover in some space, 2:14:35.640 --> 2:14:38.280 and so he's I think that's why the Bears. Bears 2:14:38.320 --> 2:14:41.000 are bad at safety. We've always had to deal every 2:14:41.040 --> 2:14:43.160 time we've ever talked about the Bears, it's been the 2:14:43.200 --> 2:14:45.600 safety play has been awful. And this kid is a 2:14:45.720 --> 2:14:48.120 will give him an opportunity to maybe have a better 2:14:48.200 --> 2:14:50.040 player than what they've been playing with. He's a tweeter 2:14:50.360 --> 2:14:52.520 for me, I'm not sure about him at corner. I'm 2:14:52.520 --> 2:14:54.200 not sure about him at safety. I think he looks 2:14:54.200 --> 2:14:56.840 like a corner. He does physically looks like a corner. 2:14:56.920 --> 2:14:59.800 He's too reactive for me. I don't think he anticipates. 2:14:59.840 --> 2:15:02.520 He waits for the action to unfold before he reacts. 2:15:03.720 --> 2:15:06.600 But he tested well and so I think some people 2:15:06.640 --> 2:15:08.320 thought he'd go earlier than this, but this, I think 2:15:08.360 --> 2:15:09.600 this is a good value for him here in the 2:15:09.680 --> 2:15:12.080 fifth a player that you can plug in in the 2:15:12.160 --> 2:15:14.879 safety mix. He'll compete for a job there in Chicago 2:15:15.000 --> 2:15:17.960 with their bad situation at safety. So with the Adrian 2:15:18.000 --> 2:15:19.640 Amos not a bad pick here in the fifth round. 2:15:20.240 --> 2:15:23.480 You know one thing Cowboys fans wonder, would the Cowboys 2:15:24.000 --> 2:15:26.920 take a quarterback in this draft? And if you slept 2:15:27.040 --> 2:15:30.879 in and joined us late, Tier been out running your saturday. 2:15:31.000 --> 2:15:34.320 Aaron same and Petty went to the New York Jets 2:15:34.440 --> 2:15:37.280 early in the fourth round. But Bret Hundley still there 2:15:37.320 --> 2:15:39.600 and Brett Huntley as a guy that the Cowboys at 2:15:39.680 --> 2:15:43.120 least worked out. Yeah, you know, and when you talk 2:15:43.200 --> 2:15:45.880 to Wade Wilson, you know Wade picked ups usually he 2:15:45.920 --> 2:15:48.040 didn't get to go pick up frequent flyer Miles, but 2:15:48.160 --> 2:15:51.280 he got to go out to Westwood work this kid out. 2:15:51.400 --> 2:15:53.680 Got to put him on the board. Uh, you know, 2:15:53.920 --> 2:15:57.240 he actually went out to to Corvallis. Did Manion in 2:15:57.360 --> 2:16:00.720 that workout as well? They've talked about if a quarterback 2:16:00.880 --> 2:16:03.680 was at the right spot, and I don't know if 2:16:03.760 --> 2:16:06.400 that time has passed now where that quarterback is at 2:16:06.440 --> 2:16:08.760 the right spot. I don't know if if the fifth 2:16:08.920 --> 2:16:12.320 round at at pick one sixty three is the right spot. 2:16:13.160 --> 2:16:15.720 But Hunley is a guy that they did go, like 2:16:15.920 --> 2:16:19.600 Bill said, went and worked out and uh and gave 2:16:19.720 --> 2:16:23.120 him the opportunity to show whether he needed to be drafted. 2:16:23.160 --> 2:16:25.520 Or We'll be interested to see how many more quarterbacks 2:16:25.600 --> 2:16:28.440 are drafted. I think we'll see Brett hun Latt's on point. 2:16:28.880 --> 2:16:32.680 But after that, well we'll see another quarterback drafted, a 2:16:32.800 --> 2:16:37.520 Chris Bonner, Brandon Bridge, Blake Simms, Taylor Heineke. Well, one 2:16:37.560 --> 2:16:40.560 of those quarterbacks go late. That'll be an interesting to 2:16:40.680 --> 2:16:43.440 What did you think of Chris Bonner, the Colorado State 2:16:43.480 --> 2:16:47.120 poeblos like? I mean, I like his upside more than 2:16:47.160 --> 2:16:49.640 Sean mannion Um. I think you have them some things 2:16:49.680 --> 2:16:51.480 there you can develop. Now. He's not ready to see 2:16:51.480 --> 2:16:54.760 the NFL field. And we've said that a lot about 2:16:54.800 --> 2:16:56.200 some of these guys in this class. But he's not 2:16:56.280 --> 2:16:58.320 ready to see the field right away. But you can 2:16:58.400 --> 2:17:00.640 get him in a six or seventh round. I would 2:17:00.720 --> 2:17:02.320 rather take a chance on him in the six or 2:17:02.360 --> 2:17:05.000 seventh than Sean Manning in the third. Uh So I 2:17:05.080 --> 2:17:08.000 think Bonner would be a good value late. So definitely 2:17:08.000 --> 2:17:09.760 a nanny to keep an eye on Bonner. I'll tell 2:17:09.760 --> 2:17:11.040 you what I liked to be at him though. I 2:17:11.120 --> 2:17:13.120 like his height, I really do. And then you watch 2:17:13.240 --> 2:17:16.520 him six yeah, and he'll stand very tall in the pocket. 2:17:16.640 --> 2:17:18.720 And then what you have with him, though, is real, 2:17:19.000 --> 2:17:22.240 real overhand, almost like a baseball pitcher throw him. It's 2:17:22.240 --> 2:17:25.480 like he he throws really well over him. But I 2:17:25.560 --> 2:17:28.640 didn't see a lot of pace on his passes Dan, 2:17:28.720 --> 2:17:31.000 And that's this thing for someone as big and as 2:17:31.080 --> 2:17:33.760 over the top as he threw. I was worried about, 2:17:33.800 --> 2:17:36.320 you know, and in the division. Yeah. And and I'm 2:17:36.360 --> 2:17:38.199 not trying to kill the kid here, I'm just saying. 2:17:38.720 --> 2:17:42.200 I'm just saying, though I'm watching kids at the level 2:17:42.280 --> 2:17:44.160 those games that he's playing against, and I can I 2:17:44.240 --> 2:17:46.640 can tell you the games I watched him play. I 2:17:46.760 --> 2:17:49.199 wish he would have got an opportunity like an Ali 2:17:49.280 --> 2:17:51.760 Marpette did, to go play in one of these games, 2:17:51.800 --> 2:17:54.080 to go play in an All Star game, to you know, 2:17:54.200 --> 2:17:56.560 to show people that he could, you know that he 2:17:56.760 --> 2:17:59.959 was he belongs because you do like the physical trade 2:18:00.240 --> 2:18:02.760 of the player have a Flacco type body, Well, it's 2:18:02.800 --> 2:18:06.160 a Flacco body. Flacco body to me is Mann Manning 2:18:06.320 --> 2:18:08.600 is the the Flacco body. Well, and he did play 2:18:08.600 --> 2:18:10.680 at the Medal of Honorable, but it was I mean 2:18:10.879 --> 2:18:13.560 he didn't get the instruction there. That see, that's what Okay, Well, 2:18:13.720 --> 2:18:15.600 I'm talking more like the East West one who had 2:18:15.680 --> 2:18:19.840 more high profile exactly you know All Star Game with Boer. Yeah, 2:18:19.879 --> 2:18:22.720 you're right, he's just a novice at the quarterback position 2:18:22.840 --> 2:18:24.560 where you know, he doesn't know how to control his 2:18:24.680 --> 2:18:27.560 ball speeds. Uh, there's so many parts of the position 2:18:27.600 --> 2:18:30.360 where he needs work. So uh but like I said, 2:18:30.480 --> 2:18:33.680 the development traits are there, the size of the arm, strength, 2:18:33.760 --> 2:18:36.680 the smarts. I think that's a good foundation to work 2:18:36.800 --> 2:18:39.760 on for a late round pick. And we did have 2:18:39.879 --> 2:18:44.959 a pick of Minnesota Michael Prue at the tight end. Yeah, 2:18:45.000 --> 2:18:48.560 Michael Pruett. Yeah, went to his product of tight end 2:18:48.640 --> 2:18:52.600 out of Southern Illinois. And then the New York Giants 2:18:52.720 --> 2:18:56.400 have selected how do you pronounce Michael Thompson m y 2:18:56.640 --> 2:19:00.959 K K E l E Thompson. That's the first who 2:19:01.200 --> 2:19:04.040 did they get you? That's I did not expect him 2:19:04.040 --> 2:19:06.160 to get drafted. I mean, yeah, you see him on 2:19:06.640 --> 2:19:08.600 you see him play, and you just I don't know, 2:19:08.640 --> 2:19:12.520 I didn't see a draftable player, but Giants saw something different. Yeah. See, 2:19:12.560 --> 2:19:14.480 the Giants have always kind of been a little bit 2:19:14.560 --> 2:19:17.680 been the secondary Texas. Yeah I've heard, Yeah, I don't, 2:19:17.680 --> 2:19:19.600 I don't. I'm kind of lost on the player too. 2:19:19.680 --> 2:19:22.680 But the thing that that I always known about the 2:19:22.720 --> 2:19:26.959 Giants seventy eighth safety seventy eight, I don't even remember 2:19:27.040 --> 2:19:28.720 him playing for Texas. They got him list of his 2:19:28.959 --> 2:19:31.400 and if if he must one of those uh Matt 2:19:31.480 --> 2:19:35.480 Slater types, that if Bill Josel teams as many as 2:19:35.520 --> 2:19:38.640 many Red River rivalry games, is on the other side 2:19:38.680 --> 2:19:41.080 of the Red River. But he knows, he knows all 2:19:41.120 --> 2:19:44.440 the competition he would of Douglas Barricklowe in there. Who's 2:19:44.440 --> 2:19:48.320 a Texas Longhorn? Has ever heard of Mchael Thompson. Nah, 2:19:48.440 --> 2:19:50.680 he's shaking his head, and do doug us Will? Where 2:19:50.680 --> 2:19:52.960 are you out about those Texas players too? Now? So 2:19:53.360 --> 2:19:55.800 Thompson had a good workout four or five one Pro 2:19:56.000 --> 2:19:58.520 day forty yard dash at his Pro day thirty six 2:19:58.600 --> 2:20:02.119 in vertical ten nine, I jump six eight nine three cones. 2:20:02.120 --> 2:20:05.200 So all good numbers there for Thompson, that's probably what 2:20:05.320 --> 2:20:10.360 helped him get drafted. But the fifth round surprised Giant 2:20:10.400 --> 2:20:13.360 saw well and and we see this as a safety then, right, 2:20:13.640 --> 2:20:16.280 and we talked about I mean, if you just want 2:20:16.320 --> 2:20:18.720 to talk about guys that potentially if this kid played safety, 2:20:19.240 --> 2:20:21.080 and I'm not going to sider and act like it 2:20:21.440 --> 2:20:23.240 it pick one forty four. I know who this kid 2:20:23.360 --> 2:20:25.200 is because I have absolutely no clue who he is. 2:20:25.480 --> 2:20:27.840 But if the in fact it's a safety guys myself 2:20:28.240 --> 2:20:31.199 the Swan kid from Georgia is a guy I really liked. 2:20:31.400 --> 2:20:33.480 I like to know, how about Hackett. If you're talking 2:20:33.520 --> 2:20:36.560 about it, you're talking about a big twelve guy Hackett, 2:20:36.720 --> 2:20:40.600 you know from TCU, maybe Smith from Fresno. I mean, 2:20:40.640 --> 2:20:42.959 they're guys on this board if you're looking at free safety. 2:20:43.080 --> 2:20:46.880 But again that's their flavor of ice cream clearly is 2:20:47.000 --> 2:20:49.440 different from our flavor of ice cream right now with 2:20:49.560 --> 2:20:52.320 this player. So the Giants definitely trying to upgrade the 2:20:52.400 --> 2:20:55.360 safety position. Of course, they took land In Collins traded 2:20:55.440 --> 2:20:56.960 up in the second round to take him as the 2:20:57.040 --> 2:20:59.840 first pick of the second round yesterday. Yeah, and he 2:21:00.280 --> 2:21:02.960 obviously a different type player. He's not a free safety. No, 2:21:03.080 --> 2:21:05.760 he's this the landing Collins to me is a keep 2:21:05.840 --> 2:21:08.000 things in front, let me be in the box and 2:21:08.480 --> 2:21:11.320 and handled things. I again, I said it yesterday or 2:21:11.360 --> 2:21:13.080 two days ago. I thought maybe he would be an 2:21:13.120 --> 2:21:16.720 outside linebacker, a really good outside linebacker in this league. 2:21:16.760 --> 2:21:19.560 I struggle with him having a plainny type of carver. 2:21:19.640 --> 2:21:22.600 This shows how a little I pay attention to the 2:21:23.320 --> 2:21:30.560 safeties for Texas not named um oh, Earl Thomas. Yeah 2:21:31.040 --> 2:21:34.160 he did. He did make thirty one starts for the Longhorns. 2:21:34.280 --> 2:21:37.279 Yeah no, I mean you you watched the Texas defense 2:21:37.320 --> 2:21:39.080 and you see him out there. But I don't know. 2:21:39.200 --> 2:21:42.320 I just watching Jordan Hicks, you know, studying him. Um 2:21:42.560 --> 2:21:44.440 you know you could see him make plays with Thompson. 2:21:44.480 --> 2:21:48.920 I didn't necessarily see that consistency consistently. So surprise he 2:21:49.080 --> 2:21:50.959 was drafted here in the fifth round. I thought more 2:21:50.959 --> 2:21:53.240 of a PFA. But like I said, I he did. 2:21:53.360 --> 2:21:55.440 Hear a little bit of buzz after the Pro day. 2:21:55.560 --> 2:21:58.360 He did it did help himself there, So I think 2:21:58.440 --> 2:22:00.640 that's the big reason why he's coming off the board 2:22:00.680 --> 2:22:03.480 here in the fifth round. So the long Horns had 2:22:03.600 --> 2:22:07.200 nobody drafted last year, and this year they get mckill 2:22:07.280 --> 2:22:09.480 Thompson here in the fifth round. Of course, in the 2:22:09.520 --> 2:22:13.480 first round they had Malcolm Brown as well. Yeah, all right, 2:22:13.680 --> 2:22:16.760 Miami is on the clock and the pick is in 2:22:17.120 --> 2:22:20.360 for the Dolphins at number one forty five here in 2:22:20.480 --> 2:22:23.120 the fifth round Cowboys with a fifth round pick, No. 2:22:23.320 --> 2:22:27.160 Sixth round pick two sevenths and Bobby McCain, the cornerback 2:22:27.760 --> 2:22:31.280 from Memphis, is the pick of the Miami Dolphins. He 2:22:31.400 --> 2:22:34.000 thoughts about Bobby McCain there from Memphis day. I like 2:22:34.200 --> 2:22:38.000 this player. I did really like him ahead of him 2:22:38.040 --> 2:22:40.600 as a fourth or a fifth round pick. Not the 2:22:40.680 --> 2:22:44.400 biggest guy at five nine and a half one, but 2:22:44.640 --> 2:22:50.199 he's he was always around, always around his receiver. He's physical, 2:22:50.520 --> 2:22:54.680 he's quick, fluid and the footwork. Yeah, and as you see, 2:22:54.680 --> 2:22:57.800 there's some activity here in the war room and Jerry 2:22:57.920 --> 2:23:01.040 Jones is on the phone. They're looking at the wall 2:23:01.160 --> 2:23:04.000 over there. Brian, what do you suspect is going on? Well, 2:23:04.040 --> 2:23:07.400 they're all looking, of course, all the tags. Britt Brown, 2:23:07.520 --> 2:23:10.840 the associate athletic trainer, is in charge of taking the 2:23:10.920 --> 2:23:13.600 tags from the draft board over to the left where 2:23:13.800 --> 2:23:17.720 Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones are all staring. Uh, they're they're 2:23:17.879 --> 2:23:21.600 obviously talking about something going on. The teams realize that 2:23:21.760 --> 2:23:25.840 Dallas doesn't have a sixth round pick, so that might 2:23:25.920 --> 2:23:29.160 be a trade back situation here. Maybe go to their spot, 2:23:29.640 --> 2:23:32.040 uh and see if they could pick up a pick 2:23:32.160 --> 2:23:37.040 or two. But Jerry, this is usually a responsibility for Steven, uh, 2:23:37.160 --> 2:23:39.720 you know, to get the trade and then they kind 2:23:39.760 --> 2:23:42.280 of relay things affect that Stephen is not in the 2:23:42.360 --> 2:23:45.000 room right now. Jerry's handling that. It's like a it's 2:23:45.040 --> 2:23:46.560 like old school back in the day when I used 2:23:46.560 --> 2:23:49.000 to see him do that. But Stephen now. But yeah, 2:23:49.000 --> 2:23:51.760 they're looking at the they're looking he's Jerry's nodding down. 2:23:51.840 --> 2:23:54.480 He's looking at that spot. And then it's as you 2:23:54.560 --> 2:23:57.800 see Jason Garrett course pointing up. So you know, maybe 2:23:58.240 --> 2:24:03.880 possibility at next year's picks, maybe something here. But you know, 2:24:04.040 --> 2:24:06.560 Jerry just fielded a call. We' we haven't seen the 2:24:06.600 --> 2:24:10.160 Cowboys field a bunch of calls in this draft, which 2:24:10.280 --> 2:24:12.800 is kind of, uh, you know, strange, especially for a 2:24:12.840 --> 2:24:15.560 team it's been the bottom of the board. So Jerry's 2:24:16.200 --> 2:24:20.279 Steven's on the phone now, so he just took the calls. 2:24:20.440 --> 2:24:22.520 Maybe they put the put the team on hold there 2:24:22.560 --> 2:24:26.320 and let Stephen have at it here. But I like 2:24:26.480 --> 2:24:29.680 what you said about about McCain. I do. I saw 2:24:29.720 --> 2:24:32.600 a very aggressive guy. I didn't see much catchup speed though. 2:24:32.760 --> 2:24:34.840 That that's the thing about him. Here's a guy who 2:24:34.879 --> 2:24:37.640 runs four four eight time wise, but a little bit bothering. 2:24:37.680 --> 2:24:40.560 They used him as a slot blitzer, fight off blocks, 2:24:40.600 --> 2:24:43.240 those kind of things. He's a physical, aggressive type of guy, 2:24:43.320 --> 2:24:46.840 step up, tackle and tough and will battle. So last yeah, 2:24:47.000 --> 2:24:50.040 his last twenty two games eleven interceptions. Yeah wow, and 2:24:50.080 --> 2:24:52.200 he's a five. He's an under five ten, so he's 2:24:52.240 --> 2:24:54.280 a shorter corn. That's probably why you see guys. I 2:24:54.320 --> 2:24:55.880 saw him get some good you know. He played its 2:24:55.959 --> 2:24:58.640 UCLA and an old miss and was able to hold 2:24:58.720 --> 2:25:00.440 up pretty well. Again, I think the last line in 2:25:00.520 --> 2:25:03.600 my summary sums him up. His lack of physical tools 2:25:03.720 --> 2:25:07.280 really limit his proceiling, but his ball skills, fluidity and 2:25:07.360 --> 2:25:11.360 overachieving attitude fit as a possible nickel corner in the NFL. Okay, 2:25:11.400 --> 2:25:15.400 this one forty six is now owned by the This 2:25:15.600 --> 2:25:18.760 was Atlantas pick. It's owned by the Minnesota Vikings. So 2:25:19.080 --> 2:25:23.080 let's see what the Vikings have up up their sleeve 2:25:23.800 --> 2:25:25.920 here at the and they just made the pick of 2:25:26.000 --> 2:25:32.840 the tight end Pruett just three picks earlier. And Minnesota, 2:25:34.160 --> 2:25:37.000 of course they started the drect what I love what 2:25:37.360 --> 2:25:40.120 Minnesota did. And Mike Zimmer had to be just beside 2:25:40.200 --> 2:25:43.480 himself after getting Trey Wayne's in the first round, Eric 2:25:43.600 --> 2:25:48.000 Kendricks in the second round, personally as a project player 2:25:48.320 --> 2:25:50.560 in the third round, the Neil Hunter. I think he's 2:25:50.600 --> 2:25:53.520 got the potential to be a pass rusher. He's certainly 2:25:53.560 --> 2:25:58.080 has the traits and the youth whatever, and particularly in 2:25:58.200 --> 2:26:02.040 their situation within then he bar Brian Robinson's now getting 2:26:02.120 --> 2:26:04.840 long in the type and I think he just had 2:26:04.920 --> 2:26:07.560 to leave his first thing. The thing about Hunter to 2:26:07.680 --> 2:26:10.960 me was an LSU a lump. First. They got to 2:26:11.000 --> 2:26:13.680 get into play flat back into rush. They can't let him. 2:26:13.720 --> 2:26:16.360 He can't stand straight out. Saw him pin his ears 2:26:16.360 --> 2:26:18.960 back and go don't yeah, And that's something LSU has 2:26:18.959 --> 2:26:20.920 been known to do. Go after that court he is 2:26:20.959 --> 2:26:23.840 a stand up and then react guy. And then it's 2:26:23.920 --> 2:26:26.240 then it's about and he's not big enough. And there's 2:26:26.240 --> 2:26:29.080 a history at LSU now with Mingo not panting out 2:26:29.120 --> 2:26:32.119 at top of the dress. Sam Montgomery was another one. 2:26:32.200 --> 2:26:34.760 They've had some busters now and then the Vikings ended 2:26:34.800 --> 2:26:37.959 up taking Stefon Diggs wide receiver out of Maryland. YEA, yeah, boy, 2:26:38.000 --> 2:26:40.040 there here's a guy coming out of high school, was 2:26:40.080 --> 2:26:42.920 like a five star talent. How state wanted him? Yeah, 2:26:42.920 --> 2:26:46.560 Florida wandered him, everyone wanted and who knows, and who 2:26:46.640 --> 2:26:49.280 knows he couldn't turn out to be one of those 2:26:49.360 --> 2:26:53.200 mid round guys. Reminded me a lot of Um Ted Gin. 2:26:53.800 --> 2:26:57.959 Just a linear, straight, lionish athlete who has the speed, 2:26:58.920 --> 2:27:01.960 but you just wonder about his offensive role. Um, he 2:27:02.120 --> 2:27:04.400 needs to be better than he's been, and he has 2:27:04.440 --> 2:27:06.640 some character stuff and he has some medical stuff, so 2:27:07.000 --> 2:27:09.240 he does bring some baggage. But again, you know we're 2:27:09.280 --> 2:27:11.119 talking fifth round. It's when do you take a chance 2:27:11.160 --> 2:27:14.000 on these guys in Minnesota after going all defense the 2:27:14.080 --> 2:27:16.680 first three rounds, has gone all offense here on the 2:27:16.760 --> 2:27:19.720 third day with t J. Clemings the tackle and then 2:27:20.160 --> 2:27:22.959 Michael Prue at the tight end, and then Stefan Diggs 2:27:23.000 --> 2:27:24.680 here with pick number one. I'll tell you what I like. 2:27:24.920 --> 2:27:28.400 I like Clements, I really really do. I mean, I mean, 2:27:28.879 --> 2:27:31.120 I mean, I Clement I mean I was I mean 2:27:31.640 --> 2:27:34.760 Michael excuse me, the tight end, Michael Prue, excuse me. 2:27:34.840 --> 2:27:37.760 I liked him, Sure, I liked watch him. I thought, 2:27:37.959 --> 2:27:40.800 you talk about up the field guy, man it catch 2:27:40.879 --> 2:27:44.920 the foot. What's a comp for prut Is it like 2:27:45.160 --> 2:27:48.640 a oh, who's the green Bay guy from Texas? Um Drew? 2:27:48.680 --> 2:27:50.800 Michael Drew, Michael Finlay. I don't know if he's that 2:27:51.040 --> 2:27:54.240 that good of that good. But I the thing about him, 2:27:54.280 --> 2:27:57.039 but that at the athletic you know that the guy 2:27:57.160 --> 2:27:59.400 that when you watched him play, you know, up the 2:27:59.560 --> 2:28:02.800 field that I mean, just down the field, catch up 2:28:03.040 --> 2:28:06.000 all that was very very positive. I think he has 2:28:06.320 --> 2:28:09.320 starter potential. I do, but I worry about the effort. 2:28:09.480 --> 2:28:13.080 That's something that I think we need to uh he 2:28:13.200 --> 2:28:16.160 needs to address because he just, you know, the route running. 2:28:16.240 --> 2:28:18.840 He just seemed to take plays off. Um So I 2:28:18.920 --> 2:28:21.160 think that's why he was still available this late. Green 2:28:21.240 --> 2:28:24.440 Bay just bought this pick from Cleveland. And in the 2:28:24.560 --> 2:28:28.440 tradition of Ted Thompson, I wonder if they went in 2:28:28.520 --> 2:28:30.240 the fourth round here, I assume we were in the 2:28:30.280 --> 2:28:33.440 fifth round. If they went, you know something that he 2:28:33.640 --> 2:28:37.440 learned a long time ago from Ron Wolf and the 2:28:37.600 --> 2:28:41.040 Packers have always had a tradition of doing this, you know, 2:28:41.840 --> 2:28:44.800 drafted a quarterback. I wonder if Teddy has seen enough 2:28:45.240 --> 2:28:48.480 of say, a guy like Huntley sliding down the here's 2:28:48.600 --> 2:28:54.320 here's the the Packers pick. But uh, a couple of 2:28:54.360 --> 2:28:57.080 picks mine. But the Packers have always been a team 2:28:57.120 --> 2:28:59.720 that have been very aggressive when it comes to draft 2:28:59.720 --> 2:29:01.640 pick in the early nineties. Yeah, and that, you know, 2:29:01.720 --> 2:29:03.560 that's something that we learned in Green Bay. I mean, 2:29:03.640 --> 2:29:06.440 that's something that we all uh, you know. And the 2:29:06.560 --> 2:29:10.400 fact that that uh, that they they don't have a pick. 2:29:10.760 --> 2:29:13.200 You know, there's some teams potentially they their picks all 2:29:13.200 --> 2:29:15.800 the way down at one sixty six. They might have 2:29:15.920 --> 2:29:18.600 made just a small uh not a small, but they 2:29:18.640 --> 2:29:21.280 might have made an investment here to get traded with 2:29:21.400 --> 2:29:25.240 New England. Actually is that okay? So that's okay. And 2:29:25.360 --> 2:29:28.920 so that's and it makes sense because Belichick loves to 2:29:28.959 --> 2:29:31.320 load up on his draft picks, and maybe maybe Teddy 2:29:31.360 --> 2:29:34.240 gave him a next year's pick for this opportunity to 2:29:34.400 --> 2:29:37.400 draft one. But uh, let's see, it's interesting, Yeah, I 2:29:38.160 --> 2:29:40.440 I just the Packers are one of those teams. Again, 2:29:40.520 --> 2:29:44.000 my my, my experience with them and I wondered if 2:29:44.040 --> 2:29:45.959 they were, if they were gonna readily have some Aaron 2:29:46.040 --> 2:29:48.640 Rodgers traits about it. Well, he's a he's a pack 2:29:48.720 --> 2:29:52.959 twelve quarterback, you know. And and and you know, the Packers, 2:29:53.000 --> 2:29:56.480 if you look at their situation, their backup quarterback situation 2:29:56.600 --> 2:29:58.800 has never been really very good. I mean, well it 2:29:58.920 --> 2:30:01.240 hasn't been good. You know. They always seem like it's 2:30:01.480 --> 2:30:04.520 toll Zene or Graham Harold. Yeah, I mean it's somebody 2:30:04.560 --> 2:30:07.200 that doesn't you know, the kid that went off to 2:30:07.280 --> 2:30:11.960 Seattle and as ye, Mark Brunel, Yeah, I mean, but 2:30:12.320 --> 2:30:15.520 even but recently Matt Plenn was one. Yeah, I wonder 2:30:15.560 --> 2:30:18.680 if Teddy. I wonder if Teddy did this. He's obviously 2:30:18.760 --> 2:30:22.080 got somebody in mind. But this is a Packer type 2:30:22.120 --> 2:30:27.480 of tradition. The Larry McCarron is, we will the pick 2:30:27.520 --> 2:30:29.680 and let's see who the fan WinCE again is going 2:30:29.720 --> 2:30:32.640 to announce the pick here, but then the selection will 2:30:32.680 --> 2:30:34.600 come down. But I just wondered, because they're sitting there, 2:30:34.840 --> 2:30:37.360 They're sitting there at one sixty six, and I just 2:30:38.040 --> 2:30:43.520 it might be something that they're thinking about. And there 2:30:43.600 --> 2:30:46.600 it is. There. It is Brett Huntley quarterback from UCLA 2:30:46.800 --> 2:30:50.040 as called right here by Brian Brod. I just saw 2:30:50.720 --> 2:30:53.680 we kept talking about quarterback, and all of a sudden, 2:30:53.680 --> 2:30:57.080 I'm thinking, when Green Bay went on the clock, I'm thinking, 2:30:57.360 --> 2:30:59.480 is this around where they would sit there and say 2:30:59.560 --> 2:31:03.080 we're not to wait anymore and we're gonna draft this quarterback. 2:31:03.520 --> 2:31:07.440 You know that's something you'd have to you know, Hey, 2:31:07.959 --> 2:31:10.480 that's what they do exactly. I think you nailed it 2:31:10.560 --> 2:31:13.080 when you said about they don't have a backup. This 2:31:13.200 --> 2:31:15.720 is what they did. Yeah, I mean they are known 2:31:15.840 --> 2:31:18.680 for drafting quarterbacks late and then turning them into something, 2:31:18.720 --> 2:31:21.920 whether that's on their roster or trading them away for 2:31:22.000 --> 2:31:26.119 future assets. Quarterbacks are gold in this league. And so yeah, 2:31:26.200 --> 2:31:29.360 with Bret Hunley, he's going to a good situation. I mean, 2:31:29.400 --> 2:31:31.640 he's gonna be in a quarterback room with Aaron Rodgers, 2:31:31.720 --> 2:31:33.520 so he's gonna be able to learn from one of 2:31:33.560 --> 2:31:36.920 the best to do it in the business. For Brett Hunley, 2:31:37.840 --> 2:31:39.840 you thought you were going to be a first round pick, 2:31:39.920 --> 2:31:42.640 Bret Hunley, did you end up in the fifth round. 2:31:42.680 --> 2:31:44.720 But you know what, you couldn't have gone to a 2:31:44.800 --> 2:31:47.800 better situation in Green Bay, So you're not gonna be 2:31:47.840 --> 2:31:50.560 expected to see the field, you can sit learn and 2:31:50.840 --> 2:31:52.920 hopefully he takes advantage of that. And how about Green 2:31:53.000 --> 2:31:56.000 Bay's draft, taking Damarius Randall late in the first Quentin 2:31:56.080 --> 2:31:58.640 Rawlins late in the second. So you got a safety 2:31:58.760 --> 2:32:01.760 and a corner there, High Montgomery a wide receiver and 2:32:01.800 --> 2:32:04.640 he's a return gi. Yeah. And then everyone thought that 2:32:04.840 --> 2:32:07.600 they might even take Stephan Anthony in the first round 2:32:07.600 --> 2:32:10.040 because they needed a linebacker, and they took a linebacker, 2:32:10.160 --> 2:32:12.080 Jake Ryan in the fourth round. And now they get 2:32:12.480 --> 2:32:16.320 a backup quarterback in Brett Huntley. Not a bad draft 2:32:16.400 --> 2:32:19.920 once again for Ted Thompson, now Teddy again. I was 2:32:20.160 --> 2:32:23.480 fortunate in my days to be with that group. And 2:32:23.920 --> 2:32:26.080 now you got guys like Scott mccluan that was there. 2:32:26.120 --> 2:32:30.040 He's drafting at Washington, Reggie McKenzie's drafting at Oakland, John 2:32:30.120 --> 2:32:33.880 Snyder's drafting in Seattle, John Dorsey's in Kansas City. So 2:32:34.360 --> 2:32:37.240 that was a pretty full room of general Yeah. And 2:32:37.360 --> 2:32:39.680 and so you guys are blessed to be doing radio 2:32:39.800 --> 2:32:44.280 with me today. So with all these general managers that 2:32:44.400 --> 2:32:47.640 I worked with are now at other other spots, and 2:32:48.360 --> 2:32:50.920 Brian brought us is here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 2:32:51.080 --> 2:32:53.720 That's the voice of Brian Rott. Absolutely got Dane Brugler 2:32:53.800 --> 2:32:58.240 here too. I'm Bill Jones, and we are midway through 2:32:58.280 --> 2:33:01.440 the fifth round here Cowboys with no umber one sixty three. 2:33:02.200 --> 2:33:05.560 New Orleans at one forty eight is the team on 2:33:05.640 --> 2:33:10.160 the clock right now to New Orleans could be out here. 2:33:10.200 --> 2:33:13.680 They compared Huntley the Jason Campbell. I think that's pretty fair. 2:33:13.800 --> 2:33:16.240 I think that's fair. I just noticed. I'm sorry, that's 2:33:16.280 --> 2:33:19.640 again bad radio on my part, just looking at the screen, 2:33:19.760 --> 2:33:22.720 probably fans listening to us and watching on the NFL network. 2:33:23.040 --> 2:33:25.600 There we go. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I 2:33:25.760 --> 2:33:28.280 just saw a guy whose mechanics were all over the place. 2:33:28.600 --> 2:33:30.880 I really and I think, you know, I think that 2:33:31.000 --> 2:33:33.680 Tom Clements, you know, his job in Green Bay now 2:33:34.200 --> 2:33:36.480 is to tighten that up, you know, to to allow 2:33:36.560 --> 2:33:39.000 you know, to and they'll give him an opportunity to 2:33:39.040 --> 2:33:42.000 play again the backup situation. Bill was talking about, Hey, 2:33:42.000 --> 2:33:44.600 a great situation for him to go and learn, you know, 2:33:44.920 --> 2:33:48.800 Scott Tolzine and that you know that forget that this guy, 2:33:48.959 --> 2:33:51.720 bring him in, let him have an opportunity, give him 2:33:51.720 --> 2:33:53.119 a lot of play that you're not gonna play Aaron 2:33:53.200 --> 2:33:55.480 Rodgers very much in the preseason, if at all, and 2:33:55.640 --> 2:33:57.800 so let him, let him develop a little bit, and 2:33:57.840 --> 2:34:00.360 then uh, either you have a player that one day 2:34:00.400 --> 2:34:02.840 could start for or Teddy Thompson will find a way 2:34:03.440 --> 2:34:06.280 to move that guy along for a draft pick, which 2:34:06.320 --> 2:34:11.760 has kind of been the green Bay way, and Green 2:34:11.879 --> 2:34:15.360 Bay did resigned toll Zene this off season. Yeah, well, 2:34:15.400 --> 2:34:17.680 Matt Flynn still out there. Matt Flynn. They see, that's 2:34:17.800 --> 2:34:20.080 they've always there. You go, there's an up definitely upgrade 2:34:20.160 --> 2:34:21.959 right there. That's what you try and do. You try 2:34:22.000 --> 2:34:24.000 and up to upgrade the position if you can. And 2:34:24.400 --> 2:34:26.320 he's a he would be a good guy to do 2:34:26.440 --> 2:34:33.240 that with. All Right, we've got Miami not doing New Orleans. Well, 2:34:33.280 --> 2:34:35.520 Miami's seven o'clock now, So I did I didn't mention 2:34:35.600 --> 2:34:40.120 the New Orleans pick. Davis Tall, Yep, Davis Tall, the 2:34:40.320 --> 2:34:43.560 linebacker from Tennessee Chattanooga. That was kind of fun film 2:34:43.640 --> 2:34:46.360 to watch Winded Dane. Yeah, he's a good player. I 2:34:46.440 --> 2:34:50.480 love his backstory. Just in high school he was outstanding, 2:34:50.560 --> 2:34:53.800 I mean the stats, the production, but then he got hurt, 2:34:53.920 --> 2:34:56.600 fell into the under the radars recruit, ends up at 2:34:56.920 --> 2:35:00.640 Chattanooga and then all he does at Chattanooga is produced. 2:35:00.760 --> 2:35:02.959 I mean, you look at his his career stats, fifty 2:35:03.040 --> 2:35:08.480 nine tackles for loss, thirty seven sacks. But again the durability, 2:35:08.520 --> 2:35:11.400 he gets hurt, h strained. Uh. I think it's a 2:35:11.440 --> 2:35:14.080 hamstring issue that was a big thing. His right shoulder 2:35:14.440 --> 2:35:17.520 needed surgery. He has hernia surgery a few years ago. 2:35:18.400 --> 2:35:20.200 So I think with the tool, you have a guy 2:35:20.280 --> 2:35:21.960 that needs to be able to stay healthy. If he 2:35:21.959 --> 2:35:23.879 can stay on the field for you, it's a great 2:35:23.959 --> 2:35:25.920 value in the fifth. Yeah, I thought a guy when 2:35:25.920 --> 2:35:28.760 I watched him play, I thought the initial quickness was 2:35:28.840 --> 2:35:31.000 outstanding and get up the field. But I think he 2:35:31.080 --> 2:35:32.959 has to be on the edge. He mean, he's a guy. 2:35:33.200 --> 2:35:34.920 If he has to play toe for toe with you, 2:35:35.080 --> 2:35:37.200 he's not gonna He's not gonna do a very good job. 2:35:37.520 --> 2:35:40.080 I like the way the burst, the short air, foot quickness, 2:35:40.160 --> 2:35:43.600 good pursue, body control, balance, all these things. You know. 2:35:43.840 --> 2:35:46.080 I don't think he has great playing strength though. I 2:35:46.160 --> 2:35:48.720 think there's something that he needs to that's something he's 2:35:48.720 --> 2:35:52.200 gonna have to work on. Uh, you know, effort and 2:35:52.200 --> 2:35:54.160 all that. I don't know. Maybe he's gonna have to 2:35:54.160 --> 2:35:55.800 play in New Orleans. It's like they're probably gonna play 2:35:55.840 --> 2:35:58.560 him an outside linebacker. That's what my notes were. I thought, 2:35:58.600 --> 2:36:01.200 I thought he I thought he's gonna have conversion guy. Yeah, 2:36:01.280 --> 2:36:03.520 he's gonna he's best standing up. He's not a guy 2:36:03.600 --> 2:36:06.440 you want um in the trenches. Yeah, like you said, 2:36:06.480 --> 2:36:08.320 toe to toe, that's not going to work for him. 2:36:08.520 --> 2:36:14.160 So here's a really cool thing. You didn't bring lunch 2:36:14.200 --> 2:36:15.840 to Lunch was delicious. I didn't want to get it 2:36:15.840 --> 2:36:17.560 all over the equipment in here, you know. I take 2:36:17.560 --> 2:36:19.600 a quick I try to go find Nick Eatman and 2:36:19.680 --> 2:36:21.640 Rob Phillips and see if they wanted to do a shift. 2:36:21.840 --> 2:36:24.800 They did not, which I'm more than happy to oblige 2:36:24.840 --> 2:36:28.480 with y'all. They're handling, you know, writing duties and all 2:36:28.520 --> 2:36:30.879 that good type of stuff. Right now, you'd much rather 2:36:30.959 --> 2:36:33.959 talk than write at this point. Honestly, as tiring as 2:36:34.000 --> 2:36:35.280 it can be to be on a show like this, 2:36:35.560 --> 2:36:38.520 it's I'd still rather talk than right. Are we tiring not? 2:36:38.720 --> 2:36:42.600 You guys? Just they'll work anyway. You're getting me off 2:36:42.640 --> 2:36:45.480 topic here, We do that quite a bit. Cool thing 2:36:45.520 --> 2:36:47.520 about this job is that you can do something as 2:36:47.600 --> 2:36:49.800 innocuous as go to get a cup of iced tea 2:36:50.000 --> 2:36:53.360 and learn something pretty interesting. Uh you know who's here 2:36:53.440 --> 2:36:58.520 right now? Would that fa Obada if you'll remember, Yeah, 2:36:58.800 --> 2:37:01.680 the English player that the Cowboys took a flyer on. 2:37:02.440 --> 2:37:06.400 Um probably back in March maybe or April. The workout 2:37:06.440 --> 2:37:09.200 we watched. He played five games of organized American football. 2:37:09.200 --> 2:37:12.000 Everybody's asking me when he's gonna start. Well, he's he's here, 2:37:12.120 --> 2:37:15.560 especially British are British fan. He's watching tape with Ben Bloom, 2:37:15.560 --> 2:37:17.480 who's a defensive assistant. They went to go get a 2:37:17.520 --> 2:37:20.480 little bit of long does she physically look? He's enormous, 2:37:21.520 --> 2:37:25.760 He's gigantic. He's six five, like he's listed at six 2:37:25.800 --> 2:37:27.600 to five, and he looks like he's six five. Like 2:37:27.680 --> 2:37:31.720 it's not being big guy, big big guy. I mean, 2:37:31.760 --> 2:37:33.520 I don't want to guess his weight, but he doesn't 2:37:33.560 --> 2:37:37.560 look small. Not each other. We absolutely can. I can 2:37:37.600 --> 2:37:40.240 put it on the internet. Uh So, I mean, you 2:37:40.280 --> 2:37:43.680 know he's played five games of organized football. Uh, played 2:37:43.720 --> 2:37:48.400 for an amateur team over and um. Yeah, I mean, 2:37:48.520 --> 2:37:51.000 I mean he's here, He's in America. He's at the facility, 2:37:51.320 --> 2:37:54.800 which means I completely expect to see him at rookie 2:37:54.879 --> 2:37:58.160 camp this this coming weekend. So two weekends. I think, oh, 2:37:59.440 --> 2:38:05.240 just no, the Miami Dolphins. I quit as you speak 2:38:05.320 --> 2:38:09.040 about an englishman. Another englishman has gone off the board 2:38:09.120 --> 2:38:12.640 and jay a Gie out of Frisco Liberty High School 2:38:12.640 --> 2:38:15.199 to the Miami Dolphins, and we were speculating Miami would 2:38:15.200 --> 2:38:20.040 go running back at some point. Yeah, that's uh. I 2:38:20.120 --> 2:38:22.320 didn't see any reaction though in the war room. Right. No, 2:38:22.680 --> 2:38:24.960 they don't really look like they care. Yeah that it's 2:38:25.000 --> 2:38:27.640 not anything and no U no pin throwing like I 2:38:27.720 --> 2:38:31.440 would have done. But I'm not a happy man right now. 2:38:31.600 --> 2:38:34.400 I'm not able to piety. Nine. Well, the thing about 2:38:34.400 --> 2:38:36.920 it is okay obviously then it was one of those 2:38:37.000 --> 2:38:39.640 deals where the medical was job. I mean, yeah, they didn't. 2:38:39.800 --> 2:38:42.320 They didn't. They're trusting with their doctors, and who am 2:38:42.360 --> 2:38:44.400 I to say they're wrong? But yeah, and he worked 2:38:44.440 --> 2:38:48.039 out here like he wasn't it. He dall had the credentials, 2:38:48.080 --> 2:38:49.720 he could have been a thirty visit. But being a 2:38:49.840 --> 2:38:51.840 local guy, he was able to come in on Dallas 2:38:51.959 --> 2:38:54.720 day and he worked out here, and so they're able 2:38:54.760 --> 2:38:58.359 to take a good look at him and have decided against. 2:38:58.760 --> 2:39:01.520 I mean, you know, it's not like it's just the Cowboys. 2:39:01.560 --> 2:39:03.560 It's one hundred and forty eight other picks that went 2:39:03.680 --> 2:39:07.400 before before this guy. But uh, I mean you look 2:39:07.440 --> 2:39:08.800 at it now. I mean, I know we talked about 2:39:08.879 --> 2:39:12.240 rawls in the seventh round maybe, but kind of kind 2:39:12.280 --> 2:39:15.320 of running thin on options for legitimate difference makers at 2:39:15.320 --> 2:39:17.480 the running back position at least through the draft, which 2:39:17.520 --> 2:39:19.880 I mean like we saw, I mean, like we talked about. 2:39:19.920 --> 2:39:22.160 They got four. So it's a crowded backfield already. But 2:39:22.280 --> 2:39:25.400 it's really pretty pretty stunning to see them getting to 2:39:25.480 --> 2:39:27.480 this stage of the draft and all these names are gone, 2:39:27.520 --> 2:39:29.880 and I would have now it's now, it's about the 2:39:29.920 --> 2:39:33.200 guys you got. Now, it's about it's absolutely it is 2:39:34.040 --> 2:39:36.400 Joe rand Or. There'll be some speculation about the guy 2:39:36.440 --> 2:39:38.760 in Minnesota too, but they don't have it. They don't 2:39:38.800 --> 2:39:43.320 have it. Let But one, why would Minnesota do that 2:39:43.879 --> 2:39:45.880 just to have next? Again, I go back to why 2:39:45.879 --> 2:39:47.560 would they get rid of a guy who could run 2:39:47.640 --> 2:39:50.200 for two thousand yards? Right now? I don't know. I'm 2:39:50.240 --> 2:39:53.200 just trying to be very good. Authority from people in 2:39:53.280 --> 2:39:57.040 the Vikings organization ain't going anywhere second hand people inside 2:39:57.040 --> 2:39:59.360 the Vikings organization that if they were going to trade 2:39:59.400 --> 2:40:01.160 Adrian Peter and they're not going to trade him to 2:40:01.240 --> 2:40:03.680 the team he wants to go to the Dallas makes sense, 2:40:04.000 --> 2:40:06.520 makes sense. So well, let's say we put that out 2:40:06.560 --> 2:40:09.560 of her mind so to rest. But yeah, so it's 2:40:09.640 --> 2:40:12.760 now the guys that have to feel good about their situation. 2:40:13.000 --> 2:40:16.000 Ryan Williams is fist pumping somewhere right right, Ryan Williams, 2:40:16.200 --> 2:40:18.840 Ryan Williams somewhere right now. Is also is Randall? So 2:40:19.120 --> 2:40:22.520 is battened? Well, yeah, bar the whole group. Yeah, I 2:40:22.640 --> 2:40:25.280 just think that you know that Jerry Jones, he he 2:40:25.879 --> 2:40:27.600 you know, we accused him of a lot of things 2:40:27.720 --> 2:40:30.440 and but he did not lie to us. And that's 2:40:31.920 --> 2:40:34.760 I question that I rolled my eyes through the back 2:40:34.800 --> 2:40:37.120 of my skull when Jerry said that on Tuesday at 2:40:37.160 --> 2:40:39.520 his pre draft preuss call, Like, okay, Cherry running backs 2:40:39.560 --> 2:40:41.800 not a need cool story. Yeah, now that's not to 2:40:41.840 --> 2:40:44.160 say they could add a seventh round guy. They could, 2:40:44.200 --> 2:40:46.960 but like we're talking like a joy, he was the 2:40:47.040 --> 2:40:49.240 last guy that you really think could make a difference 2:40:49.680 --> 2:40:52.400 this year. You know he's going to be Yeah, it 2:40:52.440 --> 2:40:54.920 could be a contributor this year. Anybody else I will 2:40:54.959 --> 2:40:59.240 say this, and there will be a free agent that 2:40:59.320 --> 2:41:03.240 they will sign sure from. And I'll say it right now, 2:41:03.440 --> 2:41:06.680 Cam McDaniel is going to be a Dallas cowboy, Copell, 2:41:06.879 --> 2:41:10.320 Copell cowboy, Notre Dame fighting Irish. Cam McDaniel will be 2:41:10.360 --> 2:41:12.440 a cowboy Dallas cowboy by the end of the day. 2:41:12.440 --> 2:41:14.240 I'm just gonna go out on a live and say that. 2:41:14.640 --> 2:41:18.440 So there's your running back pick up. I'm this is 2:41:18.480 --> 2:41:20.680 gonna be really interesting to watch because basically what we 2:41:20.959 --> 2:41:24.480 what we have heard now, I mean, the Cowboys are 2:41:24.520 --> 2:41:27.840 comfortable rolling with this, with this foursome or trio whatever 2:41:27.879 --> 2:41:31.000 they wind up doing of McFadden, Randall, Williams and Dunbar 2:41:31.680 --> 2:41:34.959 and the potentials there, the upsides there. I mean, you're 2:41:35.000 --> 2:41:37.680 talking about a top ten pick in two thousand and eight, 2:41:38.080 --> 2:41:40.760 second round pick in twenty eleven, a guy that they 2:41:40.800 --> 2:41:42.959 obviously like a lot in Dunbar enough to bring him back, 2:41:42.959 --> 2:41:46.000 and then the fifth round pick and Randall a lot 2:41:46.040 --> 2:41:47.800 of potential, a lot of stuff to feel good about, 2:41:47.920 --> 2:41:51.040 but a lot of injuries, a lot of off field problems, 2:41:51.640 --> 2:41:55.840 total lack of proven production. So I mean you could 2:41:55.879 --> 2:41:58.280 go you could go both ways with that. I mean 2:41:58.360 --> 2:42:00.720 it could be gangbusters or it could be a big, 2:42:01.160 --> 2:42:04.240 bad kind of bust, and it's I'm just gonna have 2:42:04.280 --> 2:42:06.400 to wait and see how it plays out. All right, 2:42:06.440 --> 2:42:10.400 We've got another pick gun and another Minnesota Golden Gopher gun. 2:42:10.520 --> 2:42:14.040 The safety Cedric Thompson is now at Miami Dolphin. The 2:42:14.080 --> 2:42:16.720 Dolphins with back to back picks of Jagie and now 2:42:16.800 --> 2:42:18.960 Cedric Thompson, who was getting a lot of love here 2:42:18.959 --> 2:42:22.320 at late in the draft process. Combine snub who really 2:42:22.360 --> 2:42:25.840 impresses his pro day jumped off jumped off the field 2:42:25.959 --> 2:42:29.520 there for scouts earlier in the process after the combine 2:42:29.560 --> 2:42:33.000 back at March, and so Cedric Thompson not surprised to 2:42:33.000 --> 2:42:34.600 see him get drafted. A lot of teams have been 2:42:34.640 --> 2:42:38.840 doing their due diligence on him. When we go back, 2:42:38.920 --> 2:42:41.480 we you know, now the board, we're looking at us 2:42:41.520 --> 2:42:45.200 with a ji off the board. You've talked about the guys, 2:42:45.240 --> 2:42:48.200 the best guys you have available. I mean, I've got 2:42:48.640 --> 2:42:51.800 I've got three fourth round guys available on my board, 2:42:52.240 --> 2:42:54.560 and let's take Collins out lyle Con. Yeah. No, no, 2:42:54.680 --> 2:42:59.360 I have I've eliminated I've eliminated Collins. But Michael Bennett, 2:42:59.560 --> 2:43:01.320 I've got to well, yeah, Oh see, if I got 2:43:01.360 --> 2:43:03.560 a third round, I should have looked up Bennett would 2:43:03.560 --> 2:43:04.760 be a guy for me as well. So I got 2:43:04.800 --> 2:43:09.120 a third rounder and Bennett Newness roaches um the the 2:43:09.280 --> 2:43:18.040 Oregon State defensive endatcha, yeah, yeah, mutch him, guatch him. 2:43:18.160 --> 2:43:21.360 And then I also had Hull, the linebacker from Penn State. 2:43:21.800 --> 2:43:24.160 So those are the guys that I had left as 2:43:24.240 --> 2:43:26.760 this uh on my on my board in the fourth round. 2:43:26.800 --> 2:43:30.800 Bennett would be my highest rated player left on my board. Uh. 2:43:30.879 --> 2:43:34.920 And again we've talked about fit the one or the three. 2:43:35.400 --> 2:43:37.520 There must be something going on with my man Bennett, 2:43:37.680 --> 2:43:40.880 the fact that he is not being uh selected right now. Yep, uh, 2:43:41.080 --> 2:43:45.720 San Francio, it was Indianapolis. Did they take San Francisco's picture? 2:43:45.840 --> 2:43:49.200 This is Indianapolis and they take the Stanford nose tackle 2:43:49.360 --> 2:43:57.320 David Perry Pari Perry p A r R y David Party. Okay, 2:44:00.120 --> 2:44:04.200 thoughts on him at all day. Stout nose tackle, and 2:44:04.440 --> 2:44:08.080 I saw him at the Shrine game up close and personal, 2:44:08.440 --> 2:44:11.120 and he did a nice job. He's Stout, a player 2:44:11.200 --> 2:44:15.080 that went to Stanford as an offensive lineman actually, and 2:44:15.440 --> 2:44:17.520 they moved a nose tackle and he's done a nice 2:44:17.600 --> 2:44:19.920 job there. Not a guy who's going to be very 2:44:20.040 --> 2:44:22.400 rangy and make plays away from the line of scrimmage, 2:44:22.440 --> 2:44:25.520 but as a two down nose tackle. That's what the 2:44:25.840 --> 2:44:28.160 Colts just got for their three four defense. And clearly 2:44:28.320 --> 2:44:31.680 Andrew Luck is in the draft room of the Indianapolis Colts. 2:44:31.760 --> 2:44:33.959 They love Stanford players. Of course they got Luck, they 2:44:34.040 --> 2:44:37.039 got Kobe Fleeter, and in this draft they have two 2:44:37.160 --> 2:44:40.920 Stanford defensive lineman now and Henry Anderson and David Perry. 2:44:41.440 --> 2:44:43.880 Stephen Jones on the phone once again, they filled it 2:44:43.959 --> 2:44:47.360 a call. Here he's looking back to his right where 2:44:47.440 --> 2:44:51.080 the sixth and seventh round of the tags are. So 2:44:51.840 --> 2:44:56.000 let's see if that was a quick conversation thereon Garrett 2:44:56.120 --> 2:45:00.040 texting in the meantime, or he used to tweet he 2:45:00.120 --> 2:45:01.960 needs we need to get a Jason Merritt twitter. I 2:45:02.080 --> 2:45:05.480 can't think of anything that would discuss Jason Garrett more 2:45:05.520 --> 2:45:10.800 than the thought of together, how you doing, guys? How 2:45:10.840 --> 2:45:13.600 about I think the Cowboys are about Byron Jones and 2:45:13.720 --> 2:45:17.920 his Garret is ms and the Prescott It's almost like 2:45:17.920 --> 2:45:20.440 a studying for it. Huh. He was like, no, no, 2:45:20.640 --> 2:45:23.360 wonder he was such a Garrett guy. No question about that, 2:45:25.200 --> 2:45:27.119 can't do we have a your point as well made. 2:45:27.320 --> 2:45:30.840 Maybe it's a really valuable part of our football team, 2:45:32.680 --> 2:45:34.879 but your point as well made. Jason Garrett does repeat 2:45:34.959 --> 2:45:39.760 himself a lot well. Jerry Junior coaches, dude, Jerry Jone, 2:45:40.040 --> 2:45:42.360 he was working at as you could see, we're looking 2:45:42.400 --> 2:45:45.160 at We're looking at draft order. Yeah, their tags, the 2:45:45.240 --> 2:45:47.200 blue tags on that board. As you can see, if 2:45:47.200 --> 2:45:49.840 you can see the color as those are the Cowboys picks. 2:45:49.920 --> 2:45:52.080 Those are those the far right of the board. Yeah. 2:45:52.200 --> 2:45:55.400 For some people get this confused. I've had people tweet 2:45:55.400 --> 2:45:57.440 at me and say, oh, their boards exposed that that's 2:45:57.480 --> 2:45:59.920 not that's not their draft Noe, that's just the draft order. 2:46:00.240 --> 2:46:01.920 As you look at right now, Jerry and Stephen are 2:46:02.000 --> 2:46:05.119 looking at the board proper. Jason Garrett as well, Jerry 2:46:05.160 --> 2:46:08.879 Junior was was that's the tagboard. Will mcclay's now over 2:46:09.400 --> 2:46:12.840 at the board two where potentially they're talking about some 2:46:13.120 --> 2:46:17.520 moves here, Jerry Jr. Went high with his right hand. 2:46:17.560 --> 2:46:20.119 If I'm just someone was wanting to come and offer 2:46:20.160 --> 2:46:22.160 it looked like to me an early sixth round pick 2:46:22.879 --> 2:46:25.840 for their spot. So let's see. I mean, I'm just 2:46:26.120 --> 2:46:28.720 speculating right now, guys. But that's what we do. We 2:46:28.800 --> 2:46:31.360 get paid to speculate here. I'm all for that. But 2:46:31.520 --> 2:46:33.840 his it looked like he was talking about his hand 2:46:33.920 --> 2:46:36.600 went low where their pick was. Maybe somebody at the 2:46:36.680 --> 2:46:39.600 top of the sixth round was interesting because he went up. 2:46:40.080 --> 2:46:42.080 I mean he went down and then went up and 2:46:42.160 --> 2:46:44.200 then across, And that means maybe that's what they want 2:46:44.760 --> 2:46:47.440 someone to go right there. They should. They should auction off, 2:46:47.520 --> 2:46:49.320 like you know, they bring in the Texas State lotto 2:46:49.400 --> 2:46:51.080 winners at the start of the draft and kind of 2:46:51.080 --> 2:46:53.840 show them around and stuff like that. They should auction 2:46:53.920 --> 2:46:56.760 off a chance to sit in the war room. And 2:46:57.680 --> 2:46:59.800 maybe they take your cell phone away so you can't 2:46:59.800 --> 2:47:02.120 like tweet about it. But I was thinking about that earlier. 2:47:02.200 --> 2:47:04.120 How cool would it be to like beat, like actually 2:47:04.160 --> 2:47:05.760 be able to hear what they're talking exactly what I 2:47:05.800 --> 2:47:07.320 was thinking about. As things off, you'd have to have 2:47:07.600 --> 2:47:11.120 security exactly that just person rope them off, take their 2:47:11.160 --> 2:47:14.040 phone away, and don't let them out of communication. Somebody 2:47:14.120 --> 2:47:17.000 grabbed the card and just just run out of the 2:47:17.080 --> 2:47:19.120 room kind of a thing. How much somebody pay you 2:47:19.240 --> 2:47:21.200 to do that? I think I would be stunned to 2:47:21.240 --> 2:47:23.800 hear I think somebody something you could offer. There's somebody, 2:47:23.959 --> 2:47:26.520 somebody out there. I gotta think somebody would pay five 2:47:26.600 --> 2:47:29.880 figures for that, maybe more. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody. 2:47:29.920 --> 2:47:32.760 There's a rich dude, there's a there's a Texas there's 2:47:32.760 --> 2:47:35.600 a Texas oilman out there somewhere with a die hard 2:47:35.680 --> 2:47:41.320 Cowboys fanom suggested, I'm gonna I'm gonna yeah, next to hey, 2:47:41.440 --> 2:47:44.480 we have the we do those we do those, uh, 2:47:44.640 --> 2:47:46.920 those goals, those cost saving goals. That's how this comes. 2:47:47.000 --> 2:47:49.640 So are the are the running backs totally picked over? Now? 2:47:49.840 --> 2:47:52.000 It sure seems that one. I mean, you guys, tell 2:47:52.080 --> 2:47:55.680 me Bameron artist Pain. I'm just throwing out names. Cameron 2:47:55.760 --> 2:47:59.039 artist Pain of Auburn Well, Matt Jones Area, Josh Robinson 2:47:59.080 --> 2:48:02.760 Mississippi State, Alcolm Brown of Texas, Carlos Williams Florida State. 2:48:02.800 --> 2:48:04.640 Does he don't do anything for you? I think there 2:48:04.680 --> 2:48:08.400 are parents McGee, lsu Dominique Brown Louisville. I think there 2:48:08.480 --> 2:48:11.080 are running backs that you can take. But like I said, 2:48:11.120 --> 2:48:12.960 when Ninjeli went off the board, I think he was 2:48:13.000 --> 2:48:15.960 the last one that I would expect to contribute to 2:48:16.480 --> 2:48:18.720 secure a roster. So my last running back on my 2:48:18.840 --> 2:48:21.600 board is Rawls and that I have him in the 2:48:21.640 --> 2:48:24.480 fifth round even and okay, even Rawls, Like, yeah, he 2:48:24.600 --> 2:48:27.480 goes into training camp with four other guys, you confident 2:48:27.560 --> 2:48:29.600 he comes out. What I'm saying, I mean, I've got 2:48:29.680 --> 2:48:31.560 him high enough to where I like, I would like 2:48:31.640 --> 2:48:34.200 an opportunity to take him. I put him there's there 2:48:34.240 --> 2:48:38.360 and Alfred Morris anywhere. I mean. And that's the other thing. 2:48:38.760 --> 2:48:42.080 You look at these running backs this year, in contrast 2:48:42.160 --> 2:48:46.080 to recent years, how relatively quickly running backs went. Even 2:48:46.200 --> 2:48:48.280 a couple of years ago, Joseph Randall was a fifth 2:48:48.360 --> 2:48:52.160 round pick there were there were and Shoot Ellington was 2:48:52.240 --> 2:48:55.320 a sixth round pick for Arizona two years ago, and 2:48:55.440 --> 2:48:57.920 he quickly became a starter in this league. I mean, 2:48:58.040 --> 2:49:00.280 And if you remember back to twenty thirteen, when the 2:49:00.320 --> 2:49:03.640 Cowboys drafted Joseph Randall, they talked about him on draft 2:49:03.720 --> 2:49:05.360 day as the you know, they expected him to be 2:49:05.440 --> 2:49:07.520 a primary backup and a guy who could carry the 2:49:07.600 --> 2:49:11.120 load from DeMarco Murray. So it's not like picking this 2:49:11.360 --> 2:49:15.200 late dooms you to you know, I mean, you can 2:49:15.280 --> 2:49:17.520 find value there and find contributors that you know, I 2:49:17.840 --> 2:49:20.000 don't know about it for this crez. If we get 2:49:20.000 --> 2:49:22.720 to okay, everybody wants to ask about Carlos Williams because 2:49:22.760 --> 2:49:25.120 he's a Florida State kid, you know. And I was 2:49:25.120 --> 2:49:28.160 just going through my notes about him. I didn't see 2:49:28.160 --> 2:49:29.800 a guy with a great burst. I didn't see a 2:49:29.879 --> 2:49:33.480 guy that almost had to stop the cut he almost 2:49:33.480 --> 2:49:35.800 had to stop. I didn't see lateral a jilly. I 2:49:35.879 --> 2:49:37.240 see a guy I'd like to see him run with 2:49:37.320 --> 2:49:39.879 better power for being a two hundred and thirty pound guy. 2:49:40.120 --> 2:49:43.520 I didn't see a creator. You know, there's he made 2:49:43.600 --> 2:49:46.080 some backdoor cuts in the Rose Bowl game. I saw that. 2:49:46.840 --> 2:49:48.920 Didn't see a great finisher. I had a hard time 2:49:49.160 --> 2:49:51.520 breaking runs unless he was in the open field. I 2:49:51.600 --> 2:49:53.280 didn't see a guy that played nearly as fast as 2:49:53.360 --> 2:49:56.240 his forty yard dashtime. That's why I wouldn't have Carlos 2:49:56.280 --> 2:49:58.879 Williams on my board right now. And I just didn't 2:49:58.879 --> 2:50:00.920 see And I know some people out there probably think 2:50:00.959 --> 2:50:02.480 that Carlos Williams is going to be a hell of 2:50:02.480 --> 2:50:04.200 a football. Place you have my draft guide, you will 2:50:04.200 --> 2:50:06.560 not see Carlos Williams in my running back rankings. Yeah, 2:50:06.560 --> 2:50:08.080 because I have him an h back. I think that's 2:50:08.120 --> 2:50:10.640 probably his best position in the NFL because he's an athlete. 2:50:10.680 --> 2:50:13.959 I don't think he's a traditional backfield guy who's gonna 2:50:14.000 --> 2:50:17.560 run between the tackles. To me, he's someone you want 2:50:17.600 --> 2:50:19.959 on the edges. He can catch the ball, but he's 2:50:20.000 --> 2:50:22.160 more of an athlete than a player with a firm position, 2:50:22.240 --> 2:50:25.240 and so you take a chance on him at some point. 2:50:25.640 --> 2:50:28.480 But he also has some baggage. His off field stuff 2:50:28.560 --> 2:50:29.920 is something you have to worry about too. So with 2:50:30.000 --> 2:50:33.120 Carlos Williams, I'm not even sure he's gonna be on 2:50:33.160 --> 2:50:35.560 a lot of boards here. I don't see him being 2:50:35.560 --> 2:50:37.600 an option for the Cowboy all right, And real quickly 2:50:37.680 --> 2:50:39.880 a couple of picks have been made. The Jets selected 2:50:39.920 --> 2:50:42.640 Jarvis Harrison, the offensive guard from Texas A and M, 2:50:42.680 --> 2:50:45.720 and then it won fifty three. San Diego selects Kyle 2:50:45.800 --> 2:50:49.360 a manual outside linebacker from four time national champion in 2:50:49.440 --> 2:50:52.680 North Dakota State. What do you think, oh, Jason Garrett 2:50:52.680 --> 2:50:55.680 having a little chuckle here, he's by himself. He looks 2:50:55.720 --> 2:50:58.560 he always he either looks like he just either looks 2:50:58.640 --> 2:51:02.640 pensive sad. He just looks stressed out most of the 2:51:02.720 --> 2:51:04.600 time on the camera. So I'm glad to see him 2:51:04.640 --> 2:51:07.800 having a little chuckle there because Jerry and Stephen are 2:51:07.840 --> 2:51:13.560 off wheeling and dealing somewhere, and I want, I wonder 2:51:13.640 --> 2:51:16.040 what's what's going through Jason's head right now with I 2:51:16.120 --> 2:51:17.960 mean and and that's I was going to ask you that, 2:51:18.120 --> 2:51:20.039 Brian is we talked about it in a minute ago, 2:51:20.120 --> 2:51:23.240 but the obvious storyline of running back doesn't look like 2:51:23.320 --> 2:51:25.080 a big possibility. It's still a few picks to go. 2:51:25.240 --> 2:51:27.880 But I mean, Michael Bennett, I mean, should I be 2:51:28.040 --> 2:51:30.320 terrified about why he's still here? What's what I mean, 2:51:30.400 --> 2:51:34.760 what's the logical what's the logical avenue? That's there's these 2:51:34.840 --> 2:51:37.640 unknowns when when you do what we all do here 2:51:38.000 --> 2:51:42.400 and these they have access to player records and we 2:51:42.520 --> 2:51:45.040 just evaluate the tape and that that's you're at the 2:51:45.200 --> 2:51:49.360 mercy really of the of that, I mean you are, 2:51:49.400 --> 2:51:51.320 You're at the mercy of is there something that they 2:51:51.480 --> 2:51:55.600 found out about medically, uh, that that we don't know about. 2:51:55.640 --> 2:51:58.000 It hasn't been you know, we all knew that a 2:51:58.120 --> 2:52:00.600 Gi had a bad knee. We we knew that, and 2:52:00.680 --> 2:52:03.000 we didn't find that out that later in the process. Yeah, Dane, 2:52:03.200 --> 2:52:06.360 Dane told everybody that that that was a case. It 2:52:06.480 --> 2:52:10.240 was concerned and you know, again got scalded for it. 2:52:10.600 --> 2:52:13.640 But the thing about it is, I mean the whole thing. 2:52:13.800 --> 2:52:16.800 We know what's wrong with Collins, why he's not getting drafted. 2:52:17.600 --> 2:52:22.520 Bennett is he is he? That? Is he bad? That 2:52:22.800 --> 2:52:25.960 bad of a player or a person? I don't. I 2:52:26.040 --> 2:52:27.960 think he's a better player. Again, I had him on 2:52:28.040 --> 2:52:30.600 my board in the third round. You know, I I 2:52:30.720 --> 2:52:32.880 saw him as a guy that when you watched the 2:52:32.959 --> 2:52:36.600 tape at Ohio State, especially at the end and against 2:52:36.680 --> 2:52:39.280 good competition, I saw a guy that was making play 2:52:39.360 --> 2:52:42.440 and he's he's an inconsistent performer, but at this point, 2:52:42.480 --> 2:52:45.280 but to the point where he's not getting drafted und Yeah, 2:52:45.280 --> 2:52:46.880 I'm surprised by that. To me, I had him in 2:52:46.920 --> 2:52:49.440 the third round. So I'm with you, Um, and there's 2:52:49.440 --> 2:52:52.680 another defensive tackle not Michael Bennett off the board. He 2:52:52.840 --> 2:52:54.480 was a good player. I thought he might go uh, 2:52:54.760 --> 2:52:56.960 you know, late third, early fourth, A good value here 2:52:56.959 --> 2:52:58.960 in the fifth for the plow. Davidson, not a Fresno, 2:52:59.480 --> 2:53:03.800 played five technique play the Nos. Yes, some offers versatility, um, 2:53:04.040 --> 2:53:08.360 but with Bennett inconsistent performer, but his flashes when he's 2:53:08.400 --> 2:53:11.000 on his game. You just watched the Michigan State game. 2:53:11.080 --> 2:53:13.480 You watched the Wisconsin tape. I mean, he was a 2:53:13.600 --> 2:53:17.400 big part of Ohio State's defense. So to see him 2:53:17.440 --> 2:53:19.800 still on the board tells you something's up. He turned 2:53:19.840 --> 2:53:22.760 off some teams for some reason. I was standing right 2:53:22.840 --> 2:53:25.040 next to him at the combine when he was doing 2:53:25.120 --> 2:53:27.840 his his interview, you know, and Mary and we were 2:53:27.920 --> 2:53:30.000 we were just I was listening to him talking. What'd 2:53:30.000 --> 2:53:32.640 you think, you know, I wasn't. It wasn't like I 2:53:32.680 --> 2:53:35.000 didn't see a massively, you know, built guy. Saw a 2:53:35.080 --> 2:53:37.760 kind of a normal looking guy in the sweats, and 2:53:37.840 --> 2:53:40.680 I'm thinking, okay, he's he looks bigger on tape than 2:53:40.760 --> 2:53:42.960 he does when I was standing next to him. But 2:53:43.080 --> 2:53:46.400 he wasn't talking poorly or struggling or anything like that. 2:53:46.520 --> 2:53:48.440 He seemed like a sharp kid. He was gonna say, hey, 2:53:48.640 --> 2:53:50.760 looking forward to working out, looking forward to being a 2:53:50.879 --> 2:53:52.880 you know, looking forward to doing the journey. I mean 2:53:53.080 --> 2:53:54.960 he was saying all those things that you get, you know, 2:53:55.080 --> 2:54:00.160 excited to hear. Soos goes to Buffalo at one fifty five. Well, 2:54:00.200 --> 2:54:03.360 the Cowboys played Buffalo, and so Carlos Williams has an 2:54:03.400 --> 2:54:06.360 opportunity to prove me really wrong if he in fact 2:54:06.440 --> 2:54:10.040 gets the because he's I mean, they got a pretty 2:54:10.040 --> 2:54:13.120 good running Fred Jackson stuff. I'm just saying if he 2:54:13.200 --> 2:54:15.760 does play, I mean, if he does play. But I again, 2:54:15.879 --> 2:54:18.320 I was not a big fan of Carlos Williams. I 2:54:18.400 --> 2:54:20.120 know there's people. I'm sure I haven't checked Twitter, and 2:54:20.160 --> 2:54:22.640 I'm sorry I haven't done that, but I'm sure there's 2:54:22.640 --> 2:54:25.440 people asking me about a multitask where where Carlos Williams 2:54:25.600 --> 2:54:27.320 is going to have to succeed on special teams? But 2:54:27.440 --> 2:54:30.920 you have him as an H thirty. Yeah, and he's 2:54:30.920 --> 2:54:34.000 almost like a poor man's version of David Johnson, you know, 2:54:34.160 --> 2:54:37.119 like where he catches the ball, well, does well in space. 2:54:37.240 --> 2:54:40.640 He's a big kid, but he also has his baggage 2:54:40.760 --> 2:54:42.640 and there's some things to worry about off the field 2:54:42.680 --> 2:54:46.400 with him. So a terrific athlete, just not confident where 2:54:46.440 --> 2:54:48.280 you play him because I don't want him between the tackles. 2:54:48.320 --> 2:54:51.039 I don't that's not his strength. So but I think 2:54:51.080 --> 2:54:53.280 he can play special teams and I think he can 2:54:53.320 --> 2:54:55.760 make an impact there right away as a rookie. You know, 2:54:55.840 --> 2:54:57.960 this is at the point in most straps where I 2:54:58.000 --> 2:55:02.400 get frustrated as a fan because you know the team, 2:55:02.480 --> 2:55:04.520 they're such a well and there's such a yeah, I 2:55:04.600 --> 2:55:06.560 know the name. I've done research and so I know 2:55:06.600 --> 2:55:10.080 who the players are, and teams go so much for 2:55:10.320 --> 2:55:12.920 need at this point rather than taking just take the 2:55:13.000 --> 2:55:15.200 best player there. The player that I like right now 2:55:15.800 --> 2:55:18.840 is Kenny Bell, the wide receiver from Nebraska. That's that's 2:55:18.920 --> 2:55:22.400 my guy, right They need they need their Dwayne Harris 2:55:22.520 --> 2:55:26.240 and he and he's a gunner. I heard an interview 2:55:26.320 --> 2:55:32.240 with him on a serious radio where uh he he 2:55:32.360 --> 2:55:34.760 does all the little things. He also he's just got 2:55:34.840 --> 2:55:37.520 a flare about him too. He's a team leader type 2:55:37.600 --> 2:55:39.959 he is. And he's a four He's the Nebraska's all 2:55:40.000 --> 2:55:43.160 time leading receiver, a four year starter, son of an 2:55:43.240 --> 2:55:46.640 NFL player. He looks like a pipe cleaner when he's 2:55:46.680 --> 2:55:49.840 he's so skinny, and he he had single digit reps 2:55:49.840 --> 2:55:52.240 of two twenty five. But you watch him block, see 2:55:52.280 --> 2:55:57.280 that killer block. He's a tough SOB. With Google right now, YouTube, 2:55:58.160 --> 2:56:00.960 just put Kenny Bell block, can You'll see the most 2:56:01.120 --> 2:56:04.920 unbelieving he's the best blocker blocking wide receiver in this draft. Yeah, 2:56:05.000 --> 2:56:07.519 and he's got he does value, he's got some returnability 2:56:07.560 --> 2:56:10.120 to him. I mean, and I mean before we got 2:56:10.200 --> 2:56:16.600 sidetracked by by William Carlos Williams, great contemporary poet, went 2:56:16.640 --> 2:56:20.560 over my head that I'm such a scholar, such a nerd. 2:56:20.600 --> 2:56:22.160 I ha, hey, you know what, I'm so proud that 2:56:22.280 --> 2:56:26.320 somebody from LSU could even identify that, um no, I 2:56:26.400 --> 2:56:28.480 was gonna. I mean, we talked a lot about time Montgomery. 2:56:28.560 --> 2:56:30.880 He obviously went off the board way early, as did 2:56:31.000 --> 2:56:35.760 Tyler Tyler Lockett, but Tony that that Dwayne Harris replacement 2:56:35.879 --> 2:56:38.200 is still something that the Cowboys need. So maybe that 2:56:38.400 --> 2:56:40.600 maybe Kenny Bell is a guy that they might identify. 2:56:41.080 --> 2:56:43.760 There is a guy, a seventh round guy, the guy 2:56:43.840 --> 2:56:47.280 from Henderson State who they brought in wide receiver Allas 2:56:47.360 --> 2:56:51.640 day Us Drisco. Yeah, yeah, Friscoe Wake Glent High School 2:56:52.000 --> 2:56:54.959 would be a possibility in the seventh I still I'm 2:56:55.000 --> 2:56:58.279 still gonna hold on my guy with with lucky widehead. 2:56:58.360 --> 2:57:01.080 See if you get lucky later. Yeah, as I and 2:57:01.360 --> 2:57:03.240 I know on my sheet, and I'm apologize if people 2:57:03.240 --> 2:57:05.600 are reading about him, I did the same thing you did. 2:57:06.040 --> 2:57:08.680 I put him at South alban He's a Florida Atlantic. 2:57:09.040 --> 2:57:11.720 His uniforms look similar or something, and I did something wrong. 2:57:12.080 --> 2:57:13.720 Maybe I was following what you were doing and I 2:57:14.200 --> 2:57:16.720 put him in fault. But no, I I had scouted 2:57:16.800 --> 2:57:18.880 the player, and I think that when you talk about 2:57:18.959 --> 2:57:22.360 guys that are returners, that he could be. This guy 2:57:22.600 --> 2:57:24.520 has got a lot of a billion And if we're 2:57:24.520 --> 2:57:27.240 get into seventh round and that name is still floating around, 2:57:27.280 --> 2:57:29.840 I'm gonna jump up on the table for that that 2:57:30.000 --> 2:57:32.760 type of player. But I do agree with you about 2:57:32.840 --> 2:57:35.240 Bella and I have him. I have him in the 2:57:35.320 --> 2:57:38.640 sixth round. Round, I him the sixth round. I like 2:57:38.800 --> 2:57:40.800 him as a blocker. I think he can make plays 2:57:40.840 --> 2:57:43.600 catching the football. They throw him a lot of screens 2:57:43.640 --> 2:57:46.240 and stuff like that. I think, you know, when you 2:57:46.320 --> 2:57:48.440 talk about route running, I think those are all things 2:57:48.480 --> 2:57:50.960 he's gonna need work on. But you're right, Dane. Physically, 2:57:51.200 --> 2:57:54.760 for someone so thin he is, he is he make 2:57:55.080 --> 2:57:58.200 he's tough. I mean he's a tough guy, right. Yeah. 2:57:58.320 --> 2:58:00.760 What do we make of the movement here in the room. Well, 2:58:00.760 --> 2:58:03.600 you got Jerry Jones Junior is working with Will McClay 2:58:03.640 --> 2:58:07.200 and laptops and tablets and all sorts of fun stuff. 2:58:07.320 --> 2:58:10.680 Stephen Jones is over looking at Uther over on the 2:58:11.120 --> 2:58:13.280 X side of the screen. They're watching our show right now. 2:58:13.560 --> 2:58:16.360 Thank you. Well, we'll pick a guy will at least 2:58:16.360 --> 2:58:18.840 there's some movement. There's some movement going on here. I 2:58:18.879 --> 2:58:20.720 mean it makes sense. Six and Eddy on the clock 2:58:20.800 --> 2:58:23.320 at one fifty seven, Cowboys six picks away at one 2:58:23.560 --> 2:58:26.360 sixty three. Yeah, I'm just I wonder if they're really 2:58:26.400 --> 2:58:28.640 thinking about making that move back, you know, if they 2:58:28.720 --> 2:58:31.440 if in fact that they that they don't want to 2:58:31.480 --> 2:58:33.520 be out of the sixth round, maybe they you know, 2:58:33.959 --> 2:58:36.480 maybe they can move back a little fifth round. Well no, 2:58:36.600 --> 2:58:38.200 but you do pick up an extra pick, maybe they 2:58:38.240 --> 2:58:40.080 maybe you could pick up what can you you move 2:58:40.160 --> 2:58:43.640 back at this point in the draft, you you move back? Say, uh, 2:58:43.959 --> 2:58:46.400 you're looking if you Dave go away back sixth round 2:58:46.440 --> 2:58:49.360 you're going shoot, Yeah, where you go, Dave go go 2:58:49.560 --> 2:58:52.160 just go back to go back to the top of 2:58:52.200 --> 2:58:54.480 the six if you want any right, let's well we 2:58:54.560 --> 2:58:57.320 got compisit toys after that one seventies? Yeah, that's a 2:58:57.400 --> 2:59:00.160 lot of players, that's that's true. So you got up 2:59:00.200 --> 2:59:02.600 in fifteen, say you drop fifteen picks from one sixty 2:59:02.600 --> 2:59:05.920 three to one seventy eight. What are you get in return? Yeah, 2:59:06.080 --> 2:59:09.119 one sixty three to one seventy eight. That's and that's 2:59:09.160 --> 2:59:11.560 the problem with these late round picks. That's only a 2:59:11.680 --> 2:59:15.840 difference of six points. That's you're getting a seventh rounder 2:59:16.280 --> 2:59:19.000 most getting most under mate. Well you could get maybe 2:59:19.040 --> 2:59:21.400 a next year's pick. Maybe somebody say I'll give you 2:59:21.480 --> 2:59:24.160 next year's five to do this. The most valuable seventh 2:59:24.240 --> 2:59:26.640 round pick is only worth four points. So yeah, maybe 2:59:26.640 --> 2:59:29.160 you take a seventh rounder. Yeah, you're getting a lot, though, 2:59:29.280 --> 2:59:32.000 I think you have to be you know, take your guy, 2:59:32.080 --> 2:59:33.640 if you go, if you if you're down, if you 2:59:33.720 --> 2:59:37.280 trade back, you've got to sweat, sweat those compensatory picks. 2:59:37.360 --> 2:59:39.959 But that don't get traded. But maybe your guy goes. 2:59:40.040 --> 2:59:43.480 There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, there's 2:59:43.560 --> 2:59:46.879 eight compensatory picks. Okay, Will's grabbing the phone now. People 2:59:46.879 --> 2:59:48.680 are trying to call in for somebody's trying to get 2:59:48.720 --> 2:59:51.119 to this one sixty three. This is the most activity 2:59:51.520 --> 2:59:55.119 that they've had in the war room today. Well today overall, 2:59:55.280 --> 2:59:57.480 I think so, yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so. 2:59:58.120 --> 3:00:01.240 They got pretty active there when they were coming up 3:00:01.280 --> 3:00:05.960 on Randy Cincinnati took their time with this pick. Will 3:00:06.080 --> 3:00:08.280 mcclays like, what are you talking about? What are you? 3:00:08.400 --> 3:00:10.880 What are you doing? Well, that's are you up to, 3:00:10.959 --> 3:00:15.080 Will McClay. You know somebody they're interested here. Here's Will's 3:00:15.080 --> 3:00:17.840 going to hand the phone off to Steve Even. Yeah, 3:00:17.920 --> 3:00:20.800 and so I mean, but judging by the phone in question, 3:00:20.920 --> 3:00:23.920 this is this looks this sounds like a trade, right 3:00:24.040 --> 3:00:28.000 you can tell by that phone. Yeah, this is the 3:00:28.040 --> 3:00:30.720 phones that they all those banks of phones it's about 3:00:30.800 --> 3:00:34.360 you see about three feet wide right there. Uh, those 3:00:34.400 --> 3:00:37.080 are all phones with all the NFL teams on speed dial. 3:00:37.120 --> 3:00:40.880 They've got the teams. Uh, they've also got communication to 3:00:40.959 --> 3:00:44.040 the league office as well. So anything, you know, they've 3:00:44.040 --> 3:00:46.800 got them all right there. As far as the way, 3:00:47.240 --> 3:00:49.800 I just have a feeling people offering next year's picks 3:00:49.879 --> 3:00:51.680 here to try and get this one. I don't know 3:00:51.720 --> 3:00:55.199 if anybody particularly, I mean, they're they're they're they're looking like, Okay, 3:00:55.200 --> 3:00:56.959 you're gonna have to wow me here. But I don't 3:00:57.120 --> 3:00:59.840 think they're getting wild at all. They look like it. 3:01:00.080 --> 3:01:02.920 There's a touchdown, grabbing tight end from Auburn that just 3:01:03.000 --> 3:01:10.160 went to Cincinnatti CZA former quarterback. I kind of liked 3:01:10.240 --> 3:01:13.480 him as a late round guy. Did you have as 3:01:13.480 --> 3:01:16.080 a late round guy? Yeah, not very productive, not fifth 3:01:16.160 --> 3:01:20.199 round by seventh round. Yeah, someone that you want to develop, 3:01:20.680 --> 3:01:22.800 has the size, looks apart. Did a nice job at 3:01:22.800 --> 3:01:27.000 the Senior Bowl. By the way, the Cowboys at the 3:01:27.080 --> 3:01:32.600 tight end position obviously, Um, you got Witten and Escobar 3:01:32.640 --> 3:01:34.680 has got two years left, and Hannah's going into his 3:01:34.800 --> 3:01:37.240 free agent year is well, you know, and and I'll 3:01:37.280 --> 3:01:40.280 tell you what, James Hannah is a very underrated player 3:01:40.680 --> 3:01:44.000 in this officer. Absolutely and you look at very quietly 3:01:44.120 --> 3:01:46.560 what he does as a blocker and on special teams. 3:01:47.040 --> 3:01:49.720 James Lantley goes about life. Yeah, that he is a 3:01:49.879 --> 3:01:53.280 very I'll tell you what. I've always a lot of people. 3:01:53.520 --> 3:01:55.800 You need those kind of guys on your team. He 3:01:55.959 --> 3:01:57.880 is a party work. He is not exactly he is 3:01:57.879 --> 3:02:00.400 a stunt man. You're exactly right. He's up man. He 3:02:00.440 --> 3:02:02.880 does all the things that nobody else wants to do. 3:02:03.200 --> 3:02:05.400 He hate. He could have been one of the most 3:02:05.560 --> 3:02:09.000 lauded names in Cowboys history. If that fumble in Green 3:02:09.040 --> 3:02:13.360 Bay doesn't kind of squeak between his legs just I 3:02:13.440 --> 3:02:15.360 mean no, I mean, and I'm not. That's not like 3:02:15.640 --> 3:02:18.360 he's a scapegoat. There's a million reasons why they lost 3:02:18.400 --> 3:02:21.560 that game, but that could have been a huge, huge, huge, 3:02:21.600 --> 3:02:24.160 huge moment. Sorry to bring that up. Every Yeah, Cowboy 3:02:24.200 --> 3:02:25.920 fans all around are real happy one. I'm kind of. 3:02:26.120 --> 3:02:27.880 I mean, you look at my Twitter picture. It's time 3:02:27.879 --> 3:02:29.520 for you to go get some lunch. I already ate lunch. 3:02:30.480 --> 3:02:32.640 It was delicious. They got country fried steak, they got 3:02:33.400 --> 3:02:37.400 I'll be back Bill and Dane and are dying right now. 3:02:37.680 --> 3:02:41.320 But yeah, I I you know, I the thing let's 3:02:41.320 --> 3:02:48.160 talk about too. But with with U with the uh yeah, 3:02:48.360 --> 3:02:52.400 oh there you go, West Virginia Edge rusher. But I 3:02:53.080 --> 3:02:55.840 was not enthused with shack Ritic at all. Well, not 3:02:55.959 --> 3:02:58.440 for this. I sound like I hate every player you do. 3:02:58.560 --> 3:03:01.760 And it's okay, not not for this defense three four 3:03:02.080 --> 3:03:04.440 outside back or a guy you want space boy. He 3:03:05.480 --> 3:03:07.920 for somebody that's light. It's supposed to be able to 3:03:08.040 --> 3:03:10.959 rush up the field and all that. He doesn't get. 3:03:11.000 --> 3:03:14.240 I mean, his first move is extend hands and run well, 3:03:14.320 --> 3:03:17.560 and it's tough because he was an FCS All American 3:03:17.560 --> 3:03:20.080 and at Gardner, Webb transferred to West Virginia for a 3:03:20.160 --> 3:03:22.640 senior year, and he was just kind of lost in 3:03:22.720 --> 3:03:25.200 that three three five defense where you know, he just 3:03:25.360 --> 3:03:27.720 he played on the on the line. They didn't really 3:03:27.920 --> 3:03:30.600 play him to his strength, and so um, it was 3:03:30.640 --> 3:03:33.040 almost a lost year for Riddick. But I mean, he 3:03:33.080 --> 3:03:35.840 had a nice game against Baylor. You saw the flashes 3:03:35.920 --> 3:03:40.480 and round. He was a combined snub, a player who 3:03:40.600 --> 3:03:42.480 I would not be shocked if we hear more about 3:03:42.560 --> 3:03:44.680 him in the in the coming years, A guy I'd 3:03:44.720 --> 3:03:47.440 like to develop here in the fifth round. I tell 3:03:47.440 --> 3:03:50.480 you what, man, if you've got a lot better report 3:03:50.520 --> 3:03:52.240 on him than I do. Because I didn't think he 3:03:52.320 --> 3:03:54.880 had enough power to handle tackles. I think he needed 3:03:54.879 --> 3:03:57.000 to play wide to have any type of chance. He 3:03:57.080 --> 3:04:01.040 needs space, Yeah, absolutely, And he allowed himself. You know, 3:04:01.160 --> 3:04:03.680 you figure somebody with his athletic ability could not allow 3:04:03.800 --> 3:04:05.840 himself to be hooked. And he and there was several 3:04:05.920 --> 3:04:09.840 times Texas A and M watching like a buoy and 3:04:09.959 --> 3:04:12.760 those guys play, you know, I mean he got hooked 3:04:13.120 --> 3:04:16.080 and that was in the Texas game. You know he 3:04:16.160 --> 3:04:18.920 had seven sex and three of them came against Baylor. Yeah. 3:04:19.160 --> 3:04:21.360 That there you go, that's the game you watch, But 3:04:22.040 --> 3:04:23.720 I just that was the big upset, That was the 3:04:23.840 --> 3:04:26.160 big game, Baylor loss. I just don't think he finished 3:04:26.200 --> 3:04:28.199 his plays well in a feather two. He's two hundred 3:04:28.200 --> 3:04:30.920 and forty four pounds, he's six six. You know, he's 3:04:31.040 --> 3:04:33.879 got some of the same measurables as our guy here, 3:04:34.000 --> 3:04:36.440 Randy Gregory. But that just goes to show that's not 3:04:36.640 --> 3:04:39.360 all measurables. You got to be able to have some 3:04:39.440 --> 3:04:41.480 pass rush moves. You gotta be able to finish. Yeah, 3:04:41.520 --> 3:04:43.560 you gotta be instead of just running up the field 3:04:43.600 --> 3:04:45.960 and extending your hands in the blocker, you've got to 3:04:46.000 --> 3:04:47.720 find a way to dip your shoulder and get around 3:04:47.720 --> 3:04:50.240 the corner. Which is the question mark on Denil Hunter 3:04:50.280 --> 3:04:53.320 at LSU. He stands, He stands straight up and coaching. 3:04:53.520 --> 3:04:54.960 And I think that's what they'll get to hear in 3:04:54.959 --> 3:04:57.520 the NFL say they don't coach with West Virginia not 3:04:57.800 --> 3:05:00.560 very well. Oh whoa Daniel Hold person? Where are you 3:05:00.600 --> 3:05:05.400 at the wide receivers? Well, And that's the thing is, 3:05:05.560 --> 3:05:07.520 you know you have the big part of coaching is 3:05:07.600 --> 3:05:10.000 realizing what the strengths are and what the weaknesses are. 3:05:10.200 --> 3:05:12.760 You play them to their strengths. You work on their weaknesses. 3:05:12.920 --> 3:05:14.480 I don't think they did that with Shack Riddick. He 3:05:14.560 --> 3:05:17.760 was underutilized at West Virginia. UM. I think Arizona and 3:05:17.760 --> 3:05:21.240 what they'll do a nice job developing his talent. I'm 3:05:21.560 --> 3:05:24.920 I'm intrigued by the body language. Like Stephen Jones is 3:05:24.959 --> 3:05:27.640 over here by the board on the right side of 3:05:27.680 --> 3:05:30.360 the screen, Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett are kind of looking. 3:05:30.800 --> 3:05:32.680 I just kind of feel like, I don't know, is 3:05:32.680 --> 3:05:35.320 Stephen Jones like what? What? What? What are we things 3:05:35.400 --> 3:05:37.440 going on? Here? Is somebody making a case for a pick? 3:05:37.520 --> 3:05:40.400 I mean, I think they're talking about what names are 3:05:40.520 --> 3:05:43.080 left and can in fact they make a trade and 3:05:43.200 --> 3:05:45.760 go down, they'll be able to get that guys they want. 3:05:46.040 --> 3:05:47.880 That's what they're That's what they're thinking about right now. 3:05:48.080 --> 3:05:50.320 If they do trade back, are they okay? If they 3:05:50.400 --> 3:05:52.320 miss out on a guy? Is there another option? What's 3:05:52.360 --> 3:05:54.280 their plan? The other thing is okay? So I say 3:05:54.280 --> 3:05:57.119 a team is offering a seventh rounder a right, what's 3:05:57.160 --> 3:05:59.680 the value of that seventh rounder or that person that 3:05:59.760 --> 3:06:03.160 you think you getting a seventh round? You have to 3:06:03.240 --> 3:06:05.240 take a seventh round pick on a guy rather than 3:06:05.400 --> 3:06:08.000 making him a priority free agent. The gentleman standing in 3:06:08.040 --> 3:06:11.039 the very back. There's Walter Julie for a long time scout. 3:06:11.120 --> 3:06:14.000 He's been here since the late eighties, longer than I've 3:06:14.000 --> 3:06:16.600 been all and Walter is when the thing that Walter's 3:06:16.640 --> 3:06:18.760 done now is he has been responsible. They put him 3:06:18.760 --> 3:06:21.760 in responsibly with the offensive line. So the last couple 3:06:21.760 --> 3:06:25.879 of years, I think, starting back with the with Tyren Smith, 3:06:26.040 --> 3:06:28.520 Walter has been the cross checker for the offensive line. 3:06:28.520 --> 3:06:30.240 Do you think it's telling that? Well, now, I just 3:06:30.400 --> 3:06:32.440 know Walter's the guy does he knows all the he's 3:06:32.440 --> 3:06:34.879 a national guy, he knows, but his cross check position 3:06:35.400 --> 3:06:37.959 is offensive line. So the offensive lineman that they've been 3:06:38.000 --> 3:06:41.000 able to bring in, Walter Julie, who's standing now in 3:06:41.080 --> 3:06:43.560 Chris Hall's office, has been the scout that's responsible for that. 3:06:43.879 --> 3:06:47.400 Do you perceive now that they've signed or they've drafted 3:06:47.520 --> 3:06:52.200 Chaz Green, we don't talk about the interior offensive lineman much, 3:06:52.280 --> 3:06:55.480 but they talk always needing to be on the lookout. J. J. 3:06:55.760 --> 3:07:00.200 Nelson from the Funcked program at UAB has found to 3:07:00.320 --> 3:07:02.560 home in the NFL as he is drafted by the 3:07:02.640 --> 3:07:04.960 Arizona Cardinals. I'll say what This son of a gun 3:07:05.080 --> 3:07:07.000 can fly. I mean when you watch, I mean he 3:07:07.160 --> 3:07:11.080 is small, he's yeah, wait wise, I mean he's wight wise, 3:07:11.240 --> 3:07:13.240 very small. But you watched the game and when they 3:07:13.360 --> 3:07:16.840 when and I remember the Mississippi State game especially, teams 3:07:16.920 --> 3:07:19.119 got backed up into into the end zone and having 3:07:19.160 --> 3:07:21.080 a punt out and he's got his feet standing on 3:07:21.160 --> 3:07:24.640 the fifty yard line catch and then bom, next you know, 3:07:24.760 --> 3:07:26.640 he's handing the ball the official. He's one of those 3:07:26.720 --> 3:07:29.760 types of players. So uh, it's it's nice to see you. 3:07:29.920 --> 3:07:33.560 You've talked about Bill Uab no longer playing football. I 3:07:33.640 --> 3:07:37.480 think that's a real shame. But this kid right here, man, 3:07:37.560 --> 3:07:41.320 you talk about a returner. I purse again had had 3:07:41.440 --> 3:07:44.680 Whitehead better than him. But Nelson's a guy. I could 3:07:44.720 --> 3:07:47.560 see the Arizona Cardinals doing some things with him as 3:07:47.600 --> 3:07:51.120 a returner. With Nelson six career special teams touchdown yeah, 3:07:51.440 --> 3:07:54.040 five on kicks, went on punt You're right, he flies 3:07:54.400 --> 3:07:56.400 at the combine. He showed that with that forty yard 3:07:56.520 --> 3:07:58.920 dash that he had um a player that Yeah, I 3:07:58.920 --> 3:08:00.560 don't know what you're gonna get out of him on 3:08:00.640 --> 3:08:03.160 offense because he has one hundred and fifty six pounds, 3:08:03.280 --> 3:08:06.280 one hit, and you know he could be outside a 3:08:06.280 --> 3:08:09.280 few games. So but what he gives you on special teams, 3:08:09.280 --> 3:08:11.080 that's why they're drafting him here in the fifth round, 3:08:11.840 --> 3:08:13.960 and that's why he's going to have an NFL future. 3:08:14.640 --> 3:08:18.480 Pittsburgh is their pick is in. It's Pittsburgh at one sixty, 3:08:18.640 --> 3:08:23.400 Carolina at one sixty one, or at Tampa Oakland. I 3:08:23.480 --> 3:08:25.600 mean it won sixty one and then Tampa Bay at 3:08:25.600 --> 3:08:28.960 one sixty two, So it's it would be what three 3:08:29.080 --> 3:08:32.960 picks to Dallas now, well technically two, Yeah, Jesse James 3:08:33.320 --> 3:08:36.640 got to Pittsburgh. Yeah, tight end, post up tight end. 3:08:37.120 --> 3:08:39.160 He's someone you want in the red zone. And you 3:08:39.240 --> 3:08:41.440 think his best football is ahead of him because you 3:08:41.560 --> 3:08:44.400 look at him, the measurables are there. He looks like 3:08:44.440 --> 3:08:46.680 he should be better than he is or the production says. 3:08:47.640 --> 3:08:50.880 But he can post up with defenders and really, you know, 3:08:50.959 --> 3:08:52.879 be an impact in the red zone. He's a soft 3:08:52.959 --> 3:08:54.960 he's as soft as a baby's. But when he as 3:08:54.959 --> 3:08:56.920 a point of attack blocker, right, he needs to get 3:08:56.959 --> 3:08:58.720 that as a drop. Needs to do a better job 3:08:59.000 --> 3:09:01.400 playing up to when you're when you're six six in 3:09:01.520 --> 3:09:03.680 his way, you have got to be a better point 3:09:03.720 --> 3:09:06.720 of attack Brocker and take advantage of how big you are, 3:09:07.000 --> 3:09:09.600 and Jesse James does not do that. Now, you're absolutely right. 3:09:09.959 --> 3:09:12.480 He's a guy that can make contested catches because he's 3:09:12.520 --> 3:09:14.640 got size. He makes it difficult for guys to get 3:09:14.680 --> 3:09:17.240 around him. But for being a guy that big, he again, 3:09:17.360 --> 3:09:19.840 he is a very soft football player at the point 3:09:19.879 --> 3:09:25.160 of attack, and he is a Pittsburgh Steeler. Now, Jesse James. 3:09:25.959 --> 3:09:29.160 The Assassination of Jesse Jamess by a coward Robert Ford 3:09:29.840 --> 3:09:33.320 a good movie. Check it out, Brad Pitt is there 3:09:33.400 --> 3:09:35.080 is there a way? Is there a reasona This is 3:09:35.120 --> 3:09:37.240 the reason why we have you on this, Pitt, because 3:09:37.240 --> 3:09:42.199 I do things other than break down draft you know anything? 3:09:42.280 --> 3:09:43.960 Any get a himingway in? Yeah? I mean do we 3:09:44.000 --> 3:09:46.280 need me that the old man in the scene. Yeah. 3:09:46.400 --> 3:09:49.240 I just looked up Jesse James on Wikipedia. You know 3:09:49.320 --> 3:09:52.920 what the list his occupation as a gun slinger, criminal 3:09:53.080 --> 3:09:58.760 criminal Far from that, right now, so let's go a 3:09:58.800 --> 3:10:02.240 little um. The sun also rises. It's my favorite. Theah, 3:10:02.240 --> 3:10:06.360 that's my favorite. This pick is now Carolina, right, it 3:10:07.040 --> 3:10:09.120 was Oakland, but now it's Oakland's pick, and their pick 3:10:09.320 --> 3:10:14.200 is in uh Roakland and Tampa Bay then Dallas. So 3:10:15.280 --> 3:10:17.800 you know, once again, the phones, as you can see, 3:10:17.840 --> 3:10:21.360 are not ringing in the room. Uh. So that means 3:10:21.400 --> 3:10:25.160 they're they're committed Bell, Kenny Bell, They're committed to making 3:10:25.400 --> 3:10:28.560 their pick. It looks like, uh, if they if they 3:10:28.600 --> 3:10:30.520 were interested, Let's see if they get on the clock 3:10:30.600 --> 3:10:33.640 and what happens there. But a linebacker going to Oakland 3:10:33.840 --> 3:10:37.120 neuron ball. Good for him. I'd love to see that. 3:10:37.520 --> 3:10:41.720 A player who he's had so many obstacles with injuries. Um, 3:10:41.959 --> 3:10:45.680 but he's so athletic, he's a fast guy. When he's 3:10:45.680 --> 3:10:48.400 on the field, you can't help but notice him. Um. 3:10:48.879 --> 3:10:52.160 He's really had a tough stretch here with injuries early 3:10:52.200 --> 3:10:54.039 in his career. They didn't think he played football again, 3:10:54.360 --> 3:10:57.200 came back, and then his senior year got hurt again. Um. 3:10:57.400 --> 3:11:00.440 So I'm glad to see this going in the round. 3:11:00.640 --> 3:11:04.039 Certainly I gamble with his durability concerns, but if he's 3:11:04.080 --> 3:11:05.960 able to stay on the field, he's a heck of 3:11:06.000 --> 3:11:07.720 a player, someone that I would rank as a top 3:11:07.800 --> 3:11:10.680 one hundred talent in this class. Aam but but the 3:11:10.800 --> 3:11:13.520 medical stuff is a train record. It is he got 3:11:13.640 --> 3:11:15.680 killed and that's that's the fun part of the draft 3:11:15.840 --> 3:11:18.360 is Yeah, you know, maybe this is the round. I 3:11:18.400 --> 3:11:21.080 mean we talked about the fourth and fifth rounds. Uh, 3:11:21.200 --> 3:11:24.680 you know, maybe maybe he's a footnote in Oakland history. 3:11:24.760 --> 3:11:27.080 Maybe he kicks the injury bug and becomes something quick 3:11:27.120 --> 3:11:30.600 thing on the medicals. A congenital condition called you know what, 3:11:30.680 --> 3:11:33.320 I don't even have pronounced that you're scouting not a doctor, right, 3:11:33.600 --> 3:11:38.480 artur of vininious malformation, which is basically a blood vessel 3:11:38.520 --> 3:11:41.760 in his brain. Back into eleven, they didn't think he'd 3:11:41.760 --> 3:11:45.320 play football again. He worked his way back, regained his 3:11:45.400 --> 3:11:48.240 old form, and then as a Sea as a senior. 3:11:48.360 --> 3:11:52.560 This past year microfracture surgery. So he's had the injuries, 3:11:52.640 --> 3:11:55.600 he's had a lot of issues. But uh, really great 3:11:55.600 --> 3:11:58.160 to see him get drafted here. I just tweeted let's 3:11:58.200 --> 3:12:01.320 go Kenny Bell and tweeted his picture the best sports 3:12:01.360 --> 3:12:05.240 AFRO since Oscar Gamble. Oscar Gamble had the best. Yeah, 3:12:05.840 --> 3:12:08.320 but we've all talked about Kenny Bell. I mean, we 3:12:08.520 --> 3:12:10.840 we all like Davel I just don't I just don't know. 3:12:11.080 --> 3:12:13.280 It was still with with Bennett being on the board, 3:12:13.640 --> 3:12:17.640 nuness roaches. I just maybe that's Kenny Bell just went no, 3:12:19.840 --> 3:12:24.240 he goes to Tampa Bay. Maybe pick before the Cowboys. 3:12:24.440 --> 3:12:27.360 Maybe we did stop talking about these picks. Maybe we 3:12:27.440 --> 3:12:30.480 need to got a tweet to respond. Yeah, well too bad. 3:12:30.560 --> 3:12:33.680 But we're just we're chinks in the hut. Yeah we're not. 3:12:34.000 --> 3:12:35.720 We're just chinks in the heck has it's okay, So 3:12:36.440 --> 3:12:39.000 this means it's the cowboys turn. The Cowboys would be 3:12:39.160 --> 3:12:42.040 on the clock, so everybody's in the were always kind 3:12:42.080 --> 3:12:44.320 of getting a hint. Now whatever. A coach tends to 3:12:44.400 --> 3:12:46.680 walk over there and pick up the phone. Well, i'll 3:12:46.680 --> 3:12:50.320 tell you what. Thomas Siskowski is waiting to go on 3:12:50.440 --> 3:12:52.400 the phone. But they haven't gone on the phone yet. 3:12:52.600 --> 3:12:56.000 He hasn't got the the the thought to go on 3:12:56.080 --> 3:12:57.920 the phone. So let's see if he does. He's in 3:12:57.959 --> 3:13:01.000 the bottom left corner of your screen as you look 3:13:01.080 --> 3:13:03.360 at it right now. They might be waiting on a trade. Here. 3:13:04.080 --> 3:13:07.080 See if their phone rings, They've they've got to they've 3:13:07.120 --> 3:13:10.320 got time. So let's see if in fact that they 3:13:10.440 --> 3:13:13.840 do that. We talked about the best players on the board, though, uh, 3:13:13.959 --> 3:13:16.560 in my on my board, maybe not on their board. 3:13:16.640 --> 3:13:20.920 But we talk about Bennett Newness Roaches, hall As being 3:13:20.959 --> 3:13:23.440 those guys Kie Newness Roaches would be a name. I 3:13:23.480 --> 3:13:26.480 wouldn't mind here and right here, Yeah, what about the corner. Okay, 3:13:26.560 --> 3:13:29.320 Siskowsky has gone to the phone there. He's dialing them up, 3:13:29.760 --> 3:13:31.800 and so that means that they're gonna pick. They're gonna 3:13:31.800 --> 3:13:34.160 stand in here and make this pick. And for them, 3:13:34.240 --> 3:13:38.000 let's see who in fact stupid anyway, So this would 3:13:38.000 --> 3:13:42.560 be picked one sixty three for the Dallas Cowboys, and uh, 3:13:42.879 --> 3:13:47.640 we shall see who it is here. Momentarily, Siskowsky hands 3:13:47.680 --> 3:13:50.480 the phone off to Jerry. Okay, this is always entertaining. 3:13:50.520 --> 3:13:54.240 We might have some more yelling family members in the background. 3:13:54.320 --> 3:13:58.960 This is always fun getting Jerry's got a second instructions 3:13:59.080 --> 3:14:02.440 before a dressing the new Dallas Cowboy. I think Jerry's 3:14:02.440 --> 3:14:05.440 probably going on camera here, so that's probably why he's waiting. 3:14:05.560 --> 3:14:08.680 He's waiting for them to set up the shot, kind 3:14:08.720 --> 3:14:12.600 of like MacArthur when he came on shore. You got this, 3:14:12.760 --> 3:14:14.720 I'm walking on here you go. That's there's a there's 3:14:14.760 --> 3:14:17.200 a reference for you. You're not just a football guy. 3:14:17.600 --> 3:14:20.160 Well you were probably alive then too. Yeah, no, well 3:14:20.160 --> 3:14:22.520 are you talking about there? But no, I again, it's 3:14:22.800 --> 3:14:27.840 you know, uh, that's uh, we'll see who who. In fact, 3:14:27.920 --> 3:14:31.160 the Cowboys helped me out Twitter, where's this tip my 3:14:31.320 --> 3:14:33.840 tip to pick for him? They're at the lunch. Yeah, 3:14:34.480 --> 3:14:37.320 it's not as Germanic, it's not as dramatic. It's not 3:14:37.360 --> 3:14:42.000 as dramatic right now. No, I'm interested. I mean, we're 3:14:42.000 --> 3:14:44.360 not seeing a coach in the shot here to get 3:14:44.520 --> 3:14:47.640 to tip us off with its offense. Defense. Nick Eaman 3:14:47.760 --> 3:14:50.560 is to the rescue for us. He says, Ryan Russell 3:14:50.800 --> 3:14:56.160 perdue defensive. Yeah, Ryan Russell does a very uh low 3:14:56.240 --> 3:15:03.160 key yeah, Bryan, Anthony Spencer Purdue defensive and Ryan Russell. 3:15:03.400 --> 3:15:06.240 You can't you can't say the Cowboys having addressed their 3:15:06.320 --> 3:15:10.480 defense this weekend if they I mean, I didn't have 3:15:10.680 --> 3:15:14.760 Ryan Russell, I didn't have that one. Is it anything 3:15:14.959 --> 3:15:18.640 things four two sixty nine had a one sixty two split. 3:15:19.040 --> 3:15:22.400 There's pro day. I guess they were just sad that 3:15:22.520 --> 3:15:24.959 Anthony Spencer wasn't on the roster and three sacks, six 3:15:25.040 --> 3:15:27.480 and a half tackles for lost and twelve starts his 3:15:27.560 --> 3:15:31.640 last year T year starter ten ten sacks, which is 3:15:31.680 --> 3:15:34.720 good number, but not for a four year starter. A 3:15:34.840 --> 3:15:37.000 player where you know. I even called him my my 3:15:37.040 --> 3:15:40.000 skying report. I called his film lack luster U. And 3:15:40.520 --> 3:15:42.600 I think he was a big part of him. He 3:15:42.720 --> 3:15:46.879 was caught out of position in the scheme as a freshman. 3:15:47.240 --> 3:15:49.680 I really liked what I saw Ryan Russell. I thought, 3:15:49.800 --> 3:15:51.600 here's a player to keep on the radar. I wrote 3:15:51.640 --> 3:15:54.920 his name down. Um, you know scouting Kawan Short and 3:15:55.000 --> 3:15:58.720 those guys back way back when. And then the Purdue 3:15:58.760 --> 3:16:02.160 as a coaching change, there's Ryan Russell official to the 3:16:02.240 --> 3:16:04.560 Dallas from Carrolton Creek View High School. He was a 3:16:04.600 --> 3:16:08.120 little product. Yes, um, I he was probably here on 3:16:08.320 --> 3:16:10.440 Dallas they then. I don't know if I remember seeing 3:16:10.520 --> 3:16:13.680 his name, but yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt your dango. Well, 3:16:13.720 --> 3:16:15.520 the Purdue had a coaching change. They switched to a 3:16:15.600 --> 3:16:17.920 three to four and he was caught caught out a 3:16:17.959 --> 3:16:21.080 position as a five technique and he didn't really adapt 3:16:21.160 --> 3:16:22.800 well to that new position. And I think that's a 3:16:22.879 --> 3:16:27.280 big part of why he struggled. But size wise, you know, 3:16:27.440 --> 3:16:31.280 six four two seventy pounds, four seventy five forty yard dash, 3:16:31.920 --> 3:16:35.040 A good a good kid too, just didn't fit what 3:16:35.160 --> 3:16:38.160 Purdue wanted. So he's better in a four to three 3:16:38.480 --> 3:16:41.840 as a as a left defensive end, and that's probably 3:16:41.959 --> 3:16:43.720 what he is. He's more of a backup, and that's 3:16:43.920 --> 3:16:46.640 what I scattered him as as a backup. Doesn't have 3:16:46.720 --> 3:16:49.680 a high NFL ceiling. But you know we're talking in 3:16:49.760 --> 3:16:51.680 these late rounds, in the fifth round, that's the type 3:16:51.680 --> 3:16:55.680 of player that you're you're looking for. So Ryan Russell 3:16:55.800 --> 3:16:59.160 is a Dallas cowboy and so one. I mean again, 3:17:00.400 --> 3:17:03.680 that defensive line, I mean, all of a sudden, you 3:17:03.760 --> 3:17:05.760 talk about it being a position of need when we 3:17:05.800 --> 3:17:08.560 started the weekend, All of a sudden, now you're thinking, man, 3:17:09.320 --> 3:17:11.960 pretty crowded room right now. I mean, you know, you 3:17:12.080 --> 3:17:14.840 draft Gregory and Russell in this draft class. Keep in 3:17:14.879 --> 3:17:18.879 mind we've lost Anthony Spencer as well as George Selvi. 3:17:19.040 --> 3:17:23.640 George Selva is off. You lose Henry Melton to Tampa Bay, 3:17:23.680 --> 3:17:26.720 and free agency, you bring back Nick Hayden, you signed 3:17:26.760 --> 3:17:30.120 Greg Hardy in free agency. You draft two guys at end. 3:17:31.600 --> 3:17:35.039 This guy's left end, you would assume, right, I would guess. 3:17:35.040 --> 3:17:37.960 So yeah, so you're saying the scheme change and all 3:17:38.040 --> 3:17:42.360 that day it really stunted his development because again as 3:17:42.400 --> 3:17:45.600 a freshman, really impressed. Uh, you know, when I was 3:17:45.600 --> 3:17:48.879 scouting Kawan, short defensive tackle Ryan Russell was the player 3:17:48.920 --> 3:17:50.800 that was jumping off the film to me. But then 3:17:50.959 --> 3:17:54.240 the coaching change, the scheme change, it really just halted 3:17:54.280 --> 3:17:58.320 his development. And you know you didn't like what you 3:17:58.360 --> 3:18:01.600 saw in terms of development the next few years. You 3:18:01.640 --> 3:18:03.440 could throw on his freshman tape and throw on some 3:18:03.560 --> 3:18:06.440 senior tape, not much difference between the two. So you 3:18:06.480 --> 3:18:08.520 didn't just you didn't see that development over the years. 3:18:08.680 --> 3:18:11.240 At six five, two seventy three, Bill, I would, Yeah, 3:18:11.240 --> 3:18:14.640 I'd have to assume a left defensive end, which I mean, 3:18:14.920 --> 3:18:18.400 granted that's something. Right end is the one that generates 3:18:18.440 --> 3:18:21.360 the sacks, but it's you can't ignore that either, is 3:18:21.440 --> 3:18:23.600 what do you think the depth chart is at left 3:18:23.680 --> 3:18:27.520 defensive end of Marcus Lawrence as your starter, right Jack Crawford. 3:18:27.640 --> 3:18:30.840 Jack Crawford would be too. Gardner, Ben Gardner is probably 3:18:30.840 --> 3:18:33.320 a left defensive end as well. And Ben Gardner and 3:18:33.400 --> 3:18:35.160 this guy are going to fight out for a spot. 3:18:35.440 --> 3:18:39.160 Maybe leon Let's in the room had shakes all around. 3:18:39.480 --> 3:18:41.480 Leon must have went and worked this guy out, and 3:18:41.959 --> 3:18:45.680 this is one of his guys, so good for good 3:18:45.680 --> 3:18:48.400 for Leon Let If that in fact that is the case, 3:18:48.560 --> 3:18:50.680 this is all None of this will matter when fa 3:18:50.760 --> 3:18:55.680 Obada is the starting left end day season. Keep an 3:18:55.720 --> 3:18:59.360 eye on all fa see what happens there. So it 3:18:59.360 --> 3:19:02.480 with just two picks left, both in the seventh round. 3:19:02.840 --> 3:19:05.680 As of right now, we are off for the foreseeable 3:19:05.760 --> 3:19:09.040 future with no sixth round pick. So you've got the 3:19:09.200 --> 3:19:14.400 Cowboys draft class includes four defensive players and one offensive player. 3:19:14.520 --> 3:19:19.160 Cornerback Byron Jones, first defensive end Randy Gregory, and in 3:19:19.240 --> 3:19:22.879 the third round tackle Chaz Green, Damian Wilson, fourth round 3:19:23.040 --> 3:19:27.680 linebacker from Minnesota. Fifth round now Ryan Russell, defensive end Purdue. 3:19:27.760 --> 3:19:29.880 They load up on the big ten here on the 3:19:29.959 --> 3:19:32.360 third day of the draft. All right, about that. Just 3:19:32.680 --> 3:19:36.000 some strengths, you know, we've talked about where Russell kind 3:19:36.040 --> 3:19:38.240 of fell short. But some of his strengths from my 3:19:38.280 --> 3:19:42.840 sky report physical hands, adequate length, work off blockers, He's balanced, 3:19:42.959 --> 3:19:45.880 continue his path to the pocket, smooth body type, he 3:19:45.920 --> 3:19:49.280 can sink redirect while in pursuit, stays low off the snap, 3:19:49.480 --> 3:19:53.960 using leverage, hustle, discipline, vers lave run. He's experienced in 3:19:54.080 --> 3:19:56.680 multiple fronts, so he is well versed with the various 3:19:56.760 --> 3:19:59.480 front seven responsibilities, and you love the resume as a 3:19:59.520 --> 3:20:02.280 four years order forty seven career starts, He's seen a 3:20:02.360 --> 3:20:05.600 lot of football um and a local kid as Bill 3:20:05.680 --> 3:20:08.640 mentioned from Carrollton. Yeah, he could. I mean he could 3:20:08.640 --> 3:20:11.119 probably be here later today. If I had to guess, 3:20:12.600 --> 3:20:16.600 you could bring him in as the today. I don't 3:20:16.600 --> 3:20:18.520 know if they send the bus for the fifth round guy. 3:20:18.680 --> 3:20:21.760 I think the bus is probably just for Byron maybe 3:20:22.040 --> 3:20:27.040 under Orlando Scandrick was a fifth rounder. Story Joseph Randall, 3:20:27.120 --> 3:20:29.920 who might be you're starting running back fifth rounder? Maybe 3:20:30.120 --> 3:20:34.080 the most predictable pick just now. Joe Cardona and the 3:20:34.200 --> 3:20:37.199 Navy long snapper to New England. You know, Bill Belichick 3:20:37.280 --> 3:20:40.119 had his eye on that long snapper for a while. 3:20:40.879 --> 3:20:45.600 His dad coached, right, So how often does a long 3:20:45.680 --> 3:20:49.760 snapper get drafted? Well, if he plays, if he plays 3:20:49.760 --> 3:20:51.440 as long as some of these guys have played in 3:20:51.480 --> 3:20:53.920 them as well, if you get your man, it's a 3:20:54.000 --> 3:20:57.800 fifteen year type of deal. Yeah, we've had a putter 3:20:57.920 --> 3:21:00.360 now long snapper in this jof in the fifth round. 3:21:00.600 --> 3:21:02.800 But we've got guys like Michael ben In on the 3:21:03.040 --> 3:21:06.440 still on the board. He's won a national Championship, Nudis 3:21:06.560 --> 3:21:10.480 Roaches Hall just you know, it's amazing these teams and 3:21:10.560 --> 3:21:12.240 what they and what they do and what they see 3:21:12.320 --> 3:21:14.800 and I and I get it. And you know, maybe 3:21:15.320 --> 3:21:17.320 this is the times when you have guys, when guys 3:21:17.400 --> 3:21:19.760 don't go off the board that you question what you 3:21:19.879 --> 3:21:22.360 really saw on that player as a scout. And I know, Dane, 3:21:22.760 --> 3:21:25.279 you know, and I here, I am. I can honestly 3:21:25.320 --> 3:21:27.800 tell you Ryan Russell is a guy did not study 3:21:28.080 --> 3:21:30.120 I did not I did not study Ryan Russell. I 3:21:30.200 --> 3:21:31.760 did not think that Ryan ru I mean, I just 3:21:31.840 --> 3:21:34.320 didn't feel like, in going through some of the notes 3:21:34.360 --> 3:21:36.119 and stuff, who are the guys and I stayed two 3:21:36.200 --> 3:21:38.840 hundred and twenty five players. You know, here's the thing, 3:21:39.040 --> 3:21:40.920 here's the thing that struck me about it and why 3:21:41.000 --> 3:21:44.120 I looked him up was the ten yards split. Yeah, 3:21:44.440 --> 3:21:47.119 I mean, he's here's a guy who's six four, two 3:21:47.320 --> 3:21:50.800 seventy and he's got a one sixty two ten yards 3:21:50.840 --> 3:21:55.840 split at one sixty four to combine U twenty five 3:21:55.920 --> 3:21:58.160 bench reps to go along with it. And that I 3:21:58.280 --> 3:22:00.720 just noticed as a seven twenty five hone drill two. 3:22:01.120 --> 3:22:04.520 And so I noticed that. So in my limited time 3:22:04.600 --> 3:22:06.600 to look up these guys. That's where I go off of, 3:22:07.200 --> 3:22:09.600 and then I go researching further. Well, you love the 3:22:09.640 --> 3:22:12.720 ten yards split? One sixty three is a good time 3:22:12.800 --> 3:22:16.160 for him? Um, you look at just for comparison, Shane 3:22:16.240 --> 3:22:19.160 Ray his ten yards split was one sixty three. Uh, 3:22:19.840 --> 3:22:22.440 some other guys to see DIGGI zoo his ten yards 3:22:22.440 --> 3:22:25.640 split one six one sou for Ryan Russell, you like 3:22:25.680 --> 3:22:28.039 the ten yards split. That's that that measures initial get 3:22:28.120 --> 3:22:32.520 off off off the line, that initial quickness. And so 3:22:32.920 --> 3:22:35.840 with Ryan Russell again, I liked. I liked what I 3:22:35.879 --> 3:22:38.200 saw early in his career. I just didn't see that development. 3:22:38.480 --> 3:22:40.600 But that's something with NFL coaching, you know, there's some 3:22:40.680 --> 3:22:44.400 untapped You like the other thing, Purdue defensive ends have 3:22:44.520 --> 3:22:47.760 a habit of making teams right league and contributing to Okay, 3:22:47.800 --> 3:22:50.640 we're back on the draft for the war room covered 3:22:50.720 --> 3:22:54.240 up back to us ugly mugs. Yeah, and probably had 3:22:54.240 --> 3:22:56.560 a number of Purdue defensive ends who have made it 3:22:56.640 --> 3:22:59.280 in this league, probably go away for a while. So uh, 3:23:00.200 --> 3:23:03.279 Cowboys no sixth round pick though, all right, So I'm curious, 3:23:03.320 --> 3:23:07.440 and we talked about this briefly. UM, just trying to 3:23:07.520 --> 3:23:10.480 project what this defensive line looks like after these two picks, 3:23:10.640 --> 3:23:13.840 I mean you carry, I mean you got an eight 3:23:13.920 --> 3:23:16.560 man rotation. You're thinking, I mean, what's the maximum guys 3:23:16.680 --> 3:23:18.800 that you would I mean nine nine defensive linemen on 3:23:18.840 --> 3:23:23.720 this team. Well, they carried, Yeah, they rotate, you know yeah, 3:23:23.720 --> 3:23:25.680 I mean you want a two man rotation, right if 3:23:25.760 --> 3:23:28.400 you can help it? Right. So we might be getting 3:23:28.520 --> 3:23:30.520 Ryan Russell here. I kind of I thought that might 3:23:30.600 --> 3:23:33.080 be on the on the phone here, So we're kind 3:23:33.120 --> 3:23:37.240 of in in hold mode right now. And uh well, 3:23:37.320 --> 3:23:40.280 so as we compare, we got Ryan, we do heavy. Okay, 3:23:40.400 --> 3:23:43.440 we got Ryan Russell here. Ryan Russell? Hello, are you there? 3:23:44.480 --> 3:23:48.400 I'm here, I'm here, Hey, good congratulations Ryan Russell. I'm 3:23:48.440 --> 3:23:51.840 being a Dallas Cowboy. Thank you. I appreciate it. You 3:23:52.000 --> 3:23:55.640 got Bill Jones here. I'm with CBS eleven Sports here 3:23:55.760 --> 3:23:57.800 locally and Dallas sport Worth as well as here with 3:23:57.879 --> 3:24:01.520 the Cowboys, and Brian brought Us of Dallas Cowboys dot com. 3:24:01.720 --> 3:24:04.920 David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys dot com as well. We 3:24:05.440 --> 3:24:09.039 know that you're a local product as well, Carrolton Creek, 3:24:09.200 --> 3:24:11.600 you high school, and so this has to make your 3:24:11.680 --> 3:24:15.880 day to be a Cowboy right definitely. I mean twenty 3:24:15.920 --> 3:24:18.480 minutes from Dallas. I've been to. They were the first 3:24:18.600 --> 3:24:22.160 UM football games I went to Dallas Cowboys football game. 3:24:22.200 --> 3:24:24.440 But I love watching them grow up and I'm just 3:24:24.520 --> 3:24:27.080 so happy to be, you know, going going back their 3:24:27.160 --> 3:24:29.520 home and being able to play for such a great organization. 3:24:29.879 --> 3:24:33.440 Where are you right now? Right right now, I'm actually 3:24:33.600 --> 3:24:36.480 in Buffalo, New York. Um, this is where most of 3:24:36.520 --> 3:24:39.640 my family are right now. So that's why I'm at 3:24:39.680 --> 3:24:41.080 right now that can't wait to get back to Dallas. 3:24:41.240 --> 3:24:43.600 So what has this day been like for you? And 3:24:43.720 --> 3:24:46.320 what was your reaction when you got the call from 3:24:46.400 --> 3:24:50.360 Jerry Jones? When when I heard when I heard Jerry 3:24:50.400 --> 3:24:52.640 Jones on the phone, I was just in shock and awe. 3:24:52.800 --> 3:24:56.120 I mean, I'm just relieved, excited, humbled, blast, There's so 3:24:56.200 --> 3:24:58.520 many words that come to mind. I can't even I 3:24:58.600 --> 3:25:02.119 can't even describe it. Really. And what were you thinking 3:25:02.200 --> 3:25:06.840 as this day was going on? Um, just that I 3:25:06.920 --> 3:25:08.840 wanted a team to believe in me as much I 3:25:08.920 --> 3:25:12.040 believe myself and to give me opportunity to grow and become, 3:25:12.520 --> 3:25:13.880 you know, the player that I know I can be. 3:25:14.280 --> 3:25:16.920 And when I met with the Cowboys and coach Marinelli. 3:25:17.080 --> 3:25:19.120 You know, I definitely felt that from them and from 3:25:19.160 --> 3:25:21.920 the organization. I felt that support and then encourage me 3:25:22.040 --> 3:25:26.080 and just the teaching that that they bring to the organization. 3:25:26.320 --> 3:25:27.800 And I couldn't have picked a better team to be 3:25:27.879 --> 3:25:30.160 a part of lot. I'm glad they chose me. Ryan. 3:25:30.240 --> 3:25:32.400 Did they work you out in West Lafayette or did 3:25:32.480 --> 3:25:34.800 you come here to work out? Did when you first 3:25:34.840 --> 3:25:38.080 had your with with with Marinelli and Leon letting those guys? 3:25:39.120 --> 3:25:43.280 Uh Um, Coast Bloom actually came to Okay, we didn't 3:25:43.280 --> 3:25:46.320 work out there, Okay. Um. After that, I took a 3:25:46.400 --> 3:25:50.800 visit out to Dallas, Okay with coach Lanton and coach Marinelli. Okay, great. 3:25:50.840 --> 3:25:53.840 So and again we had coach Marinelli on earlier today 3:25:53.920 --> 3:25:57.199 and he was talking about guys that have that position 3:25:57.360 --> 3:26:00.880 flexibility and and you know, we were leading up to 3:26:00.959 --> 3:26:03.800 the draft and stuff, and even when you were the selection. Yeah, 3:26:03.800 --> 3:26:06.000 we've talked about You've played a couple of different schemes 3:26:06.440 --> 3:26:09.600 while you were at Purdue, and so is this this 3:26:09.760 --> 3:26:12.440 four three scheme playing as I assume like playing is 3:26:12.440 --> 3:26:15.200 a left defensive end. Is that something you will be 3:26:15.280 --> 3:26:19.560 comfortable doing? Oh? Yeah, definitely. That's that's where I started 3:26:19.760 --> 3:26:21.480 learning football, and that's where I fell in love with 3:26:21.560 --> 3:26:24.000 the game at and that, Um, you know, I've done 3:26:24.040 --> 3:26:25.720 a lot of things, that's definitely the thing I'm most 3:26:25.760 --> 3:26:28.840 comfortable with. And I'm just excited to be able to 3:26:28.879 --> 3:26:30.360 play that and learn and grow and if they need 3:26:30.400 --> 3:26:32.840 me in different areas, you know, in different schemes or 3:26:32.959 --> 3:26:37.000 from places, I think I can do that as well. Hey, Ryan, congrats. Uh, 3:26:37.080 --> 3:26:39.800 you know, we we have the opportunity to watch the 3:26:40.160 --> 3:26:42.920 Cowboys war room cam here while they're making these selections 3:26:43.000 --> 3:26:45.800 and uh, certain certainly seemed to get a good response 3:26:46.080 --> 3:26:48.200 from Leon Latt when he heard that you were the pick. 3:26:48.320 --> 3:26:52.680 What what's Leon? You mentioned Rod Marinelli? What's been that 3:26:52.840 --> 3:26:55.960 that dialogue in that relationship with these guys as the 3:26:56.080 --> 3:26:58.160 draft process has gone on, and what you've been able 3:26:58.200 --> 3:27:02.480 to learn about them? Well, just coaching me and when 3:27:02.520 --> 3:27:03.880 I when I met him when I came to Dallas, 3:27:03.959 --> 3:27:06.360 and is very supportive. You know, he's played, he's been 3:27:06.400 --> 3:27:08.840 in my position before. He knows kind of you know, 3:27:08.959 --> 3:27:10.920 the things that it takes in the criticism you hear 3:27:10.920 --> 3:27:13.280 from the outside and the support system. Ashmunal insight so 3:27:13.800 --> 3:27:15.920 instantly we kicked it off. I mean, he's given me 3:27:16.000 --> 3:27:18.680 great support. There's been a lot of you know, questions 3:27:18.760 --> 3:27:20.640 or concerns about my play and then things like that. 3:27:20.800 --> 3:27:22.480 And I told him, you know, the first that I 3:27:22.520 --> 3:27:24.439 met him, I was like, I don't really have any excuses. 3:27:24.480 --> 3:27:26.560 I don't have any reasons. I'm just ready to change 3:27:26.600 --> 3:27:29.119 that perception of myself. And I think we really hit 3:27:29.160 --> 3:27:32.240 it off there and hit the ground running in that regard. 3:27:32.520 --> 3:27:34.920 And when I met coach Marinelli, I mean, his first 3:27:34.959 --> 3:27:36.320 thing he told me said, I'm going to make you 3:27:36.360 --> 3:27:38.280 a better player. To whether the draft through, we don't 3:27:38.320 --> 3:27:40.240 ease this time that we have together, I'm going to 3:27:40.280 --> 3:27:42.560 make you a better player. And I definitely left the 3:27:42.600 --> 3:27:44.400 meeting so like I knew way more than I came 3:27:44.440 --> 3:27:46.840 in with. And just knowing that, I was like, if 3:27:46.840 --> 3:27:48.680 I could come here and if I can be under 3:27:48.800 --> 3:27:51.240 his mentorship, that I know I can be the best 3:27:51.280 --> 3:27:52.960 player that I could possibly be. So I'm just like 3:27:53.000 --> 3:27:55.879 I said, I'm ecstatic to be a Dallas Cowboy. Yeah 3:27:55.959 --> 3:27:58.120 there you go right. Well listen ay, well, Ben Bloom, 3:27:58.800 --> 3:28:01.840 the defensive line coach is now here in studio with us. 3:28:01.879 --> 3:28:03.480 So I'm gonna give you an opportunity to get to 3:28:03.520 --> 3:28:05.880 say hello to coach Blue, who you were talking about, 3:28:05.959 --> 3:28:08.240 came to West Lafayette and got a chance to work 3:28:08.280 --> 3:28:12.040 you out. So coach the floors yours Brian. What's up man? 3:28:12.120 --> 3:28:15.160 How you doing? I'm doing great? How are you coaching? 3:28:15.480 --> 3:28:17.520 I'm excited, man, I think I'm doing better than you. 3:28:17.640 --> 3:28:21.040 I'm just pumped to have you on the squad. Yeah, 3:28:21.080 --> 3:28:25.000 I don't know about that, but I'm definitely excited to Well, 3:28:25.040 --> 3:28:28.080 the most exciting part for me is other than your ability, 3:28:28.520 --> 3:28:32.000 which you've shown in college. You know, the expectation here 3:28:32.040 --> 3:28:34.880 and how we play, and you know, we got to 3:28:34.959 --> 3:28:38.160 work together at the workout at Purdue. So um, I 3:28:38.240 --> 3:28:41.560 feel like we've already laid the right foundation for you to, 3:28:42.360 --> 3:28:45.440 you know, come in here and you know, fight for 3:28:45.560 --> 3:28:50.080 a job right away. Yeah, sir, Yeah sir. Well, Ryan, listen, 3:28:50.160 --> 3:28:52.240 thank you so much for joining us today. We really 3:28:52.280 --> 3:28:55.680 appreciate you. Congratulations on being select. I know it's a 3:28:55.760 --> 3:28:58.600 very exciting day for you and for your family. Have 3:28:58.680 --> 3:29:00.920 a safe trip back from buff and we'll see here 3:29:01.160 --> 3:29:04.040 in a couple of weeks for camps. Okay, all right, 3:29:04.120 --> 3:29:07.720 thank you appreciate all right, thank you, grats Ryan, Well 3:29:07.840 --> 3:29:10.320 you went and did the workout. Yeah, this is this 3:29:10.520 --> 3:29:12.080 is this Verst saying, look, is this one of your 3:29:12.120 --> 3:29:14.800 pet cats? Is this one of these guys that I 3:29:14.920 --> 3:29:16.879 walked by your office and you grind on that tape 3:29:16.879 --> 3:29:19.200 pretty hard? You coach these guys really hard. Is this 3:29:19.280 --> 3:29:21.240 one of those guys that it was kind of caught 3:29:21.320 --> 3:29:24.160 your eye initially as it was going along. Yeah, I 3:29:24.280 --> 3:29:27.879 mean he's got a lot of talent and it definitely 3:29:27.959 --> 3:29:32.560 flashed throughout his college career. You know, I just remember 3:29:32.640 --> 3:29:36.760 watching him playing Indiana Notre Dame, those two games. Even 3:29:36.959 --> 3:29:40.280 he again, sureff from Iowa. You know, he played some 3:29:40.680 --> 3:29:44.640 big time competition at some big time games. So I 3:29:44.840 --> 3:29:47.720 was excited to see that. And Ryan alluded to it. 3:29:47.959 --> 3:29:51.680 He wasn't a consistent player. So it's my job and 3:29:52.360 --> 3:29:55.360 his job was working together to get that consistency from him. Right, 3:29:56.480 --> 3:29:58.880 we talk I mean, nobody knows better than y'all. We 3:29:58.959 --> 3:30:01.240 talk about, you know, the roles these guys play. Once 3:30:01.280 --> 3:30:05.240 you get him here and we're working on our best guestimates. Really, 3:30:05.240 --> 3:30:07.200 I mean he left end is that I mean, you 3:30:07.480 --> 3:30:09.160 have an idea of what you kind of hope to 3:30:09.160 --> 3:30:11.920 start him out as and what you see him as becoming. Yeah, 3:30:11.920 --> 3:30:14.000 I think he can play any end position, but from 3:30:14.040 --> 3:30:17.600 a measurable standpoint, and you know what he's done in college, 3:30:17.680 --> 3:30:19.920 left end seems to be the most natural fit. But 3:30:20.040 --> 3:30:22.560 we don't like to, you know, put our guys in 3:30:22.680 --> 3:30:26.600 a limited right pigeonhole. Pigeon hole, it's a good way 3:30:26.600 --> 3:30:30.039 to say it. So sure, I think he could play left. 3:30:30.080 --> 3:30:31.680 If he had a play right, he could play right, 3:30:31.959 --> 3:30:34.360 and then we'd always experiment moving him inside. But I 3:30:34.440 --> 3:30:36.880 think left end is the obvious place to start him 3:30:36.879 --> 3:30:40.760 off at and got with his speed, athleticism, ability to 3:30:40.840 --> 3:30:43.520 bend for a tall guy, that's where you can see, hey, 3:30:43.560 --> 3:30:46.119 we could have some position flex here. His Russian mechanics, 3:30:46.200 --> 3:30:48.840 he can flip his hips, he can dip his inside shoulder, 3:30:48.879 --> 3:30:51.920 he can burst to the ball, so hey, he can 3:30:52.000 --> 3:30:54.000 rush from anywhere. In my mind, we just got to 3:30:54.000 --> 3:30:56.200 find the best place for him. We always joke that 3:30:56.520 --> 3:30:59.600 every position coach wants his guy to get drafted at 3:30:59.680 --> 3:31:02.800 any round of the draft. So what, how how's it 3:31:02.840 --> 3:31:05.200 feeling with you, Leon and Rob Marinelli? Right now with 3:31:05.320 --> 3:31:07.920 Randy Gregory and now and now another defensive lineman in 3:31:07.959 --> 3:31:10.360 the building this weekend. It's exciting. You know. We just 3:31:10.520 --> 3:31:13.279 want to get as many talented guys that love football 3:31:13.400 --> 3:31:17.199 here and create competition. We're better coaches when we have competition. 3:31:17.680 --> 3:31:20.920 And uh, it's gonna make everybody, uh in the defensive 3:31:20.959 --> 3:31:23.120 line room better coaches and players. Can you talk a 3:31:23.160 --> 3:31:25.920 little bit about the evaluation of Gregory? I mean, again, 3:31:26.000 --> 3:31:29.160 that's something that is you guys. You guys coach these 3:31:29.200 --> 3:31:31.520 guys and you look at these guys and anything else 3:31:31.680 --> 3:31:33.920 is you know, the front office has to take care 3:31:33.920 --> 3:31:36.720 of that. I mean, you're responsibly. But talk about though, 3:31:36.760 --> 3:31:38.440 when you get a player to get an opportunity to 3:31:38.520 --> 3:31:40.879 coach a guy that a lot of people as thinks 3:31:41.040 --> 3:31:44.560 and I agree at elite rush ability and now here 3:31:44.600 --> 3:31:46.560 he is a part of your team, and then talk 3:31:46.600 --> 3:31:49.320 about coaching a guy like that. Yeah, I mean when 3:31:49.360 --> 3:31:52.560 you turn on the tape and watch Randy Um, the 3:31:52.720 --> 3:31:57.280 talents obvious as a rusher. Um, even with his length 3:31:57.360 --> 3:32:00.000 and ability to bend, he can set an edge again 3:32:00.000 --> 3:32:05.320 as the big oh tackle. Um. The speed, the rush ability, 3:32:05.560 --> 3:32:09.080 the natural instincts, it's all there. And his motors high too. 3:32:09.760 --> 3:32:14.000 So from a football character standpoint, From a talent. You know, 3:32:14.040 --> 3:32:16.240 it's everything you want. So you're excited to have a 3:32:16.320 --> 3:32:19.080 guy here that puts a lot of positive things on tape, 3:32:19.360 --> 3:32:21.080 and you just want to get a guy like here, 3:32:21.560 --> 3:32:23.880 Get him here, guy like that, Get him here, get 3:32:23.959 --> 3:32:26.480 him lined up seeing the right stuff and playing fast 3:32:26.560 --> 3:32:29.080 and let his natural abilities take over before I let 3:32:29.160 --> 3:32:32.320 you go here. We talk about with the with the 3:32:32.400 --> 3:32:34.600 Marcus Lawrence, you know, and last year wet yeah, and 3:32:34.680 --> 3:32:37.359 we lost we didn't We lost him in the preseason 3:32:37.440 --> 3:32:39.080 and then you know, through the middle of the season 3:32:39.160 --> 3:32:41.520 and then you guys worked really hard every day even 3:32:41.560 --> 3:32:44.440 when he wasn't doing physical rep tracts and he was 3:32:44.520 --> 3:32:47.360 working against somebody, you were working on his technique. Talk 3:32:47.400 --> 3:32:50.320 about where you see him at right now from where 3:32:50.400 --> 3:32:53.160 he started to this point in time where we'll see 3:32:53.200 --> 3:32:56.640 him out here in the camps and stuff here really soon. Yeah. No, 3:32:56.720 --> 3:32:59.040 it's a great question. And um, you know, part of 3:32:59.120 --> 3:33:01.800 our offseason work with all the players on our current roster, 3:33:01.920 --> 3:33:05.760 we go back and look at their entire season individually 3:33:06.360 --> 3:33:08.360 and cut up you know, what you did well, which 3:33:08.400 --> 3:33:10.640 you didn't do well, so we can really focus on 3:33:10.720 --> 3:33:13.800 specific things. And you know, in the last few weeks. 3:33:13.879 --> 3:33:15.920 I've watched and watched the Marcus from his first game 3:33:16.040 --> 3:33:18.040 versus Arizona all the way through the playoffs, and you 3:33:18.200 --> 3:33:22.119 see him playing better as the season goes along. Now 3:33:22.600 --> 3:33:24.200 it's easy to say, hey, he had two sacks in 3:33:24.280 --> 3:33:26.640 the playoffs, so from a statistical standpoint, he did that, 3:33:26.680 --> 3:33:29.480 but if you just watch the individual plays, he's playing 3:33:29.560 --> 3:33:32.480 better and better. With him, the toughness and the physicality 3:33:32.640 --> 3:33:35.840 was always there, So just for him, it's the technique stuff, 3:33:36.360 --> 3:33:39.640 rushing the passer, you know, working edges, working half a man, 3:33:40.280 --> 3:33:43.240 using his speed, getting better with his hands. He's doing 3:33:43.320 --> 3:33:45.880 that stuff and he has improved with that, and he 3:33:46.040 --> 3:33:49.160 did it coming kind of behind the eight ball from 3:33:49.200 --> 3:33:51.240 a deficit. So now he's got a a full off 3:33:51.280 --> 3:33:53.280 season and a full training camp, so I see the 3:33:53.320 --> 3:33:55.640 sky the limit with him and he should be competing 3:33:56.200 --> 3:33:58.360 to be on the field a ton of fus next year. Well, 3:33:58.400 --> 3:34:01.080 Coach Bloom, thanks so much for Josh. Appreciate kings great 3:34:01.160 --> 3:34:05.160 insight there. That's coach Cowboys defensive line coach Ben Bloom, 3:34:05.240 --> 3:34:08.240 one of the really outstanding young coaches in this league. 3:34:08.280 --> 3:34:10.480 I've really enjoyed watching him work so up watching and 3:34:10.560 --> 3:34:12.400 he even says that when you're not in Yeah, no, 3:34:12.520 --> 3:34:15.520 I do think a lot of respect. His office is 3:34:15.600 --> 3:34:17.560 right on the hallways. You can always tell when he's 3:34:17.560 --> 3:34:19.920 actually working. No, no, he works a lot, that's but no, 3:34:20.000 --> 3:34:21.800 he is going when the outstanding young coaches and thanks 3:34:21.800 --> 3:34:26.440 again for your time, Ben Bloom the defensive line coaches, 3:34:26.480 --> 3:34:40.840 das coach. This is continuing coverage of the twenty fifteen 3:34:41.040 --> 3:34:47.120 and FL Draft on Della's Cowboys dot com. Brian brought 3:34:47.200 --> 3:34:51.720 us back here devastating news. News roach is actually means 3:34:51.800 --> 3:34:55.200 say it ain't so, say it ain't so. Kansas City 3:34:55.280 --> 3:34:58.760 chief can't see change at John Dorsey again. Another guy 3:34:58.959 --> 3:35:02.280 worked with smart football man. It's a guy. It's a guy. 3:35:02.400 --> 3:35:05.840 We really liked that the Cowboys don't have to play. Yeah, 3:35:05.920 --> 3:35:07.880 so at least we got that going for class. Fool 3:35:07.920 --> 3:35:11.240 guy I'm working on. I had him a little high 3:35:11.240 --> 3:35:13.680 there in the fourth round. I believe for uh for 3:35:13.840 --> 3:35:17.640 CBS Sports, I'm working on five winners and five losers 3:35:17.879 --> 3:35:20.640 from this weekend. And I tell you want people to 3:35:20.680 --> 3:35:22.880 tweet to you that the chief tell me, tell me 3:35:22.920 --> 3:35:25.440 your opinion. But the chiefs are up there. I really 3:35:25.520 --> 3:35:28.520 like what they did. Adding two impact corners with Marcus 3:35:28.560 --> 3:35:32.800 Peters and Stevie Nelson. Uh, Mitch Morris, I thought, is 3:35:33.240 --> 3:35:35.800 their center of the future. I don't think I loved 3:35:35.879 --> 3:35:39.440 that receiver pick they made though, the Conley kid, Oh see, 3:35:39.440 --> 3:35:42.040 I I like that at that point in that third round. 3:35:42.320 --> 3:35:45.800 Uh I he blew up the combine and so the 3:35:45.840 --> 3:35:51.000 workout warrior. I mean, you know, but he his tape, 3:35:52.120 --> 3:35:53.640 you could see it. He showed Flash is not the 3:35:53.720 --> 3:35:56.320 most consistent player lass class houses can't throw. I mean, 3:35:56.400 --> 3:35:58.840 people call Byron Jones a workout warrior. So who am 3:35:58.879 --> 3:36:01.760 I to say that that Conley's a workout warrior. So 3:36:02.800 --> 3:36:06.600 we shall see, we shall see. How's the last four 3:36:06.800 --> 3:36:09.280 doing in Kansas City? Did he do anything? No, he's 3:36:09.320 --> 3:36:12.360 been a little bit. Yeah. I liked him. I liked him. Uh. 3:36:12.959 --> 3:36:16.800 You've got the members of the Draft show here and 3:36:16.959 --> 3:36:22.280 including our trusted director there of Kent Garrison leading the way. 3:36:22.320 --> 3:36:25.440 He's been here shout out, shout out ed k Hill. Yeah, 3:36:25.600 --> 3:36:28.480 not not with us, not even not even watching because 3:36:28.480 --> 3:36:31.119 he's probably at a soccer game. He's chicken strip some Yeah, 3:36:31.160 --> 3:36:33.200 he's not really it, but you know he's doing he's 3:36:33.240 --> 3:36:35.640 doing a simulated mock dra He was a vital he 3:36:35.720 --> 3:36:37.600 was a vital part of the Draft show. He was 3:36:37.760 --> 3:36:41.360 and we're very and as we start this round, kay Hill, Yeah, 3:36:41.560 --> 3:36:43.840 it would give us an opportunity I almost spit my 3:36:43.959 --> 3:36:46.840 drink out, almost give us an opportunity to thank everybody 3:36:46.840 --> 3:36:48.959 again as we get into the last round here colways 3:36:48.959 --> 3:36:51.400 do have two picks, but to thank everybody along the 3:36:51.480 --> 3:36:54.760 way that's made the Draft Show possible. It did started 3:36:54.760 --> 3:36:57.280 out ed and I with an idea of what we 3:36:57.320 --> 3:37:00.360 wanted to do and Derek Eagleton, everybody allowing out out 3:37:00.440 --> 3:37:05.920 Derek Eagleton and co on them out. Yeah, thanks again 3:37:05.959 --> 3:37:10.320 to big thanks to da guy right here is a machine. 3:37:10.560 --> 3:37:12.840 And uh, you know we've been here since Jeff and 3:37:12.959 --> 3:37:16.400 Katie Yeah, Bill cast a thousand, but the I'm talking 3:37:16.400 --> 3:37:18.880 about our Draft show up this year. Yeah guy, I 3:37:19.000 --> 3:37:22.400 know we appreciate you guys sending a long journey from 3:37:23.000 --> 3:37:26.320 it has been from Mobile, Alabama on a Winnebago. It 3:37:26.480 --> 3:37:29.360 was a fun journey though, absolutely it was fun. Do 3:37:29.480 --> 3:37:33.720 it again next year. The uh Christian socally from Buffalo. 3:37:33.920 --> 3:37:37.640 Yeah Soaky's yeah. A player who Laurence so Cool, an 3:37:37.640 --> 3:37:41.960 Albanian native immigrant who was out of position at nose 3:37:42.040 --> 3:37:45.040 guard for the Buffalo went to Seattle. His agent just tweeted, 3:37:45.040 --> 3:37:47.960 they're moving him the offensive line. Yeah, I saw I 3:37:48.040 --> 3:37:51.000 listed to him as a guard. Yeah, that's interesting. Seattle 3:37:51.080 --> 3:37:54.039 at j R. Sweezy another former defensive lineman they moved 3:37:54.080 --> 3:37:57.160 to the offensive line started has been a consistent guard 3:37:57.240 --> 3:37:59.720 for them. That is only it's coming teen kid from Rice, 3:37:59.800 --> 3:38:03.000 guy picked by Houston, So good for him. Yeah, Christian 3:38:03.280 --> 3:38:07.160 nat play it obviously at Rice. Yeah, well yeah Rice, 3:38:07.480 --> 3:38:10.320 So he doesn't. He gets to upgrade his apartment, is 3:38:10.360 --> 3:38:12.840 what he does. He goes now from having like yeah, 3:38:12.920 --> 3:38:15.760 he moves apart to campus to a good to a 3:38:16.320 --> 3:38:19.120 real good apartment. So good for Christian Comington. And then 3:38:19.200 --> 3:38:22.240 we said about Nunis Roaches, a guy that one of 3:38:22.320 --> 3:38:24.400 my favorite players. I have a lot of favorite players, Dave, 3:38:24.400 --> 3:38:26.720 you know that that's okay, the wrong Southern miss. He 3:38:26.879 --> 3:38:30.400 goes to my buddy John Dorsey at the Kansas City Chiefs. 3:38:30.879 --> 3:38:33.840 So good for him. He gets at up. So we're 3:38:33.879 --> 3:38:37.760 now into the uh into the seventh round. I always 3:38:37.800 --> 3:38:40.880 like to call this the lightning round. Uh. He was 3:38:40.920 --> 3:38:43.400 on the clock that Cowboys picks coming too. Yeah, we 3:38:43.440 --> 3:38:46.680 do have Cowboys picks coming the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let 3:38:46.720 --> 3:38:49.760 me see, actually Oakland had this this first pick at 3:38:49.879 --> 3:38:53.480 two eighteen and where that would be Anthony Morris to 3:38:53.560 --> 3:38:58.240 tackle from Tennessee State. Uh, then we go to pick 3:38:58.360 --> 3:39:03.400 two nineteen, which would be that would be the Cleveland Browns. 3:39:03.920 --> 3:39:07.000 Picks been traded quite a bit. Sad stat that Jason 3:39:07.040 --> 3:39:09.720 Witten probably doesn't want to hear that I pulled off Twitter. Yep, 3:39:10.000 --> 3:39:13.920 Tennessee State and Tennessee Chattanooga have had players drafted today. Yeah, 3:39:14.040 --> 3:39:17.520 this weekend. Ye. No volunteers off the board. No volunteers 3:39:17.560 --> 3:39:19.520 in twenty fifteen so far. Yeah. And by the way, 3:39:19.760 --> 3:39:22.160 Justin Coleman, we might see him this round, but my 3:39:22.320 --> 3:39:25.120 big could get shut out. War room cam is now covered. 3:39:25.200 --> 3:39:28.720 You're seeing that our faces right now. But when they 3:39:28.840 --> 3:39:32.440 feel comfortable about getting this going again, we will see 3:39:32.640 --> 3:39:35.600 the war room. We've been doing that all weekend. It's 3:39:35.640 --> 3:39:37.560 been something I feel like they I feel like they've 3:39:37.600 --> 3:39:39.840 covered the camera up more this year than they have 3:39:39.959 --> 3:39:41.920 in years past. But they they've got a lot going 3:39:42.000 --> 3:39:43.760 on in there, a lot of a lot of you know, 3:39:43.840 --> 3:39:45.760 a lot of trying to figure things out. So a 3:39:45.800 --> 3:39:47.760 lot of a lot of debate, a lot of debt 3:39:47.800 --> 3:39:49.160 and going on. They don't need to see. But no, 3:39:49.280 --> 3:39:51.000 we've we've got a Really it's been a nice thing 3:39:51.080 --> 3:39:53.000 for us to go in there and be a part 3:39:53.080 --> 3:39:55.120 and see as picks have been made and stuff. That was. 3:39:55.280 --> 3:39:57.400 That was a trip during the Randy Gregory it was 3:39:57.840 --> 3:40:01.560 how animated that room was to Dane pick two nineteen 3:40:01.680 --> 3:40:06.160 to Cleveland. Hayes Pollard, the inside linebacker from USC. Yeah, 3:40:07.160 --> 3:40:09.440 a player that as a four year starter at USC, 3:40:09.800 --> 3:40:12.320 you know, racked up the production three hundred and seventy 3:40:12.320 --> 3:40:15.480 seven tackles. Uh. I'm not sure where he fits. Is 3:40:15.520 --> 3:40:17.960 he an inside back er, outside backer? He played both, 3:40:18.040 --> 3:40:20.720 He played both, he played middle, he played a will 3:40:21.320 --> 3:40:23.879 for Cleveland or for a USC. Now going to Cleveland, 3:40:24.120 --> 3:40:26.520 he's be one heck of a special teams player for them. Yeah, 3:40:26.520 --> 3:40:28.400 I think that's where he's gonna fit. Uh. You know, 3:40:28.520 --> 3:40:31.280 obviously he's around the ball, he is, he can play 3:40:31.320 --> 3:40:35.160 in space. Um, he's an athlete. So UM, we'll see 3:40:35.200 --> 3:40:37.960 how he how he transitions to to defense. But I 3:40:38.000 --> 3:40:40.600 think initially on special teams where he'll make his uh, 3:40:40.800 --> 3:40:44.119 he'll he'll be earning his paychecks. That's the eleventh pick 3:40:44.200 --> 3:40:46.080 for the Browns. Yeah, damn there, and then they have 3:40:46.080 --> 3:40:47.879 another picket, so they could come away with a dozen 3:40:48.000 --> 3:40:49.960 a dozen pick and everybody thought they were gonna be 3:40:50.080 --> 3:40:52.760 dealing them the way. Uh. The next team that will 3:40:52.800 --> 3:40:58.680 be on the clock at two twenty is the Jacksonville Jaguars. 3:40:58.720 --> 3:41:00.959 I'm just making sure that they're in fact they are 3:41:01.040 --> 3:41:02.720 on the clock. They are on the clock. Pick this 3:41:02.840 --> 3:41:04.959 a pick has been announced at all. If you see anything, 3:41:05.400 --> 3:41:08.320 I don't think so. And then behind them will be 3:41:08.480 --> 3:41:12.320 the Oakland Raiders. So again, this will be teams. Now, 3:41:12.760 --> 3:41:15.600 this is what teams do. You know, your your your 3:41:15.720 --> 3:41:19.879 scouts are already now with coaches. They're calling free agents, 3:41:19.920 --> 3:41:23.000 they're trying to recruit a little bit. You're talking to guys. Hey, listen, 3:41:23.040 --> 3:41:25.440 if you don't get picked, h you know, we'd love 3:41:25.480 --> 3:41:28.080 to have you. Chris Hall does a tremendous job with 3:41:28.240 --> 3:41:31.000 the priority free agents will be here, you know, through 3:41:31.080 --> 3:41:33.440 the evening getting them. Yeah, I mean list of guys 3:41:33.560 --> 3:41:36.080 as you know, you assume the seventh round will probably 3:41:36.080 --> 3:41:38.760 be over and yeah, and the whole idea, the whole 3:41:38.800 --> 3:41:41.720 idea here is that if there is guys that are 3:41:41.840 --> 3:41:44.360 on the board that are still on their draft board 3:41:44.440 --> 3:41:48.000 physically on their board. When this thing ends, those guys 3:41:48.120 --> 3:41:50.600 become the priorities that you go out and get. So 3:41:51.040 --> 3:41:53.400 as we go to the war room, cam uh, you'll 3:41:53.400 --> 3:41:55.400 see guys stand by the board and all that. And 3:41:55.959 --> 3:41:58.760 but that's the idea. Tony Romo. Let me get an example. 3:41:58.840 --> 3:42:02.720 Tony Romo was not drafted. Then he became a priority 3:42:02.760 --> 3:42:06.160 free agent. Boom, go to work, Bill Parcels, Jerry Jones, 3:42:06.240 --> 3:42:08.760 Stephen Jones, try and get him to be a Dallas 3:42:08.840 --> 3:42:12.039 cowboy in that in fact happened. So and Andrew Brandt's 3:42:12.040 --> 3:42:14.400 gonna tweet out his favorite story here in a minute 3:42:14.440 --> 3:42:16.440 about how he was working in the Green Bay for 3:42:16.480 --> 3:42:19.119 ant office and oh three, and and nobody was interested 3:42:19.160 --> 3:42:22.600 in signing Tony Romo to an undrafted contract. So yeah, 3:42:23.040 --> 3:42:25.080 but no, it is, I mean so yeah, I mean 3:42:25.120 --> 3:42:27.160 the seventh round will probably be over by about I 3:42:27.160 --> 3:42:30.600 don't know five. It is the light, Yeah, Oga, the 3:42:30.720 --> 3:42:33.120 Pixar coming off there. I'm gonna stump you on a 3:42:33.160 --> 3:42:37.320 guy there. Day the Jacksonville Jaguars at the two hundred 3:42:37.320 --> 3:42:39.600 and twentieth spot took a wide receiver from Mammouth, New 3:42:39.720 --> 3:42:43.400 Jersey Mammouth College named Neil Sterling. What do you know 3:42:43.440 --> 3:42:45.879 about Neil Sterling? Uh, you know he's a big kid. 3:42:47.520 --> 3:42:50.160 Uh now he's six two, two thirty five. He I 3:42:50.240 --> 3:42:52.440 did see a little bit of him. Yeah, I don't 3:42:52.480 --> 3:42:57.000 think we're talking about Miles Austin Miles Aston, yeah exact, yeah, yeah, 3:42:57.480 --> 3:43:01.480 but he's a thick player. He looks all bit of 3:43:01.520 --> 3:43:04.600 two thirty five. Um, surprise he's drafted over some of 3:43:04.640 --> 3:43:07.720 these players. We I mean, Trey McBride, something is going 3:43:07.800 --> 3:43:10.000 on with him that he's still on the board. Well McBride, 3:43:10.160 --> 3:43:13.000 Lewis you know Farmer, These are all guys we talked. 3:43:13.120 --> 3:43:15.000 I have a feeling you're gonna see these guys come 3:43:15.080 --> 3:43:17.680 off the board and maybe as we get closer to 3:43:17.800 --> 3:43:20.879 Dallas's pick with two in this round, like we alluded 3:43:20.879 --> 3:43:24.080 to before our break, I walked down the coaching the 3:43:24.200 --> 3:43:27.280 coaching corridor while we were out in commercial and uh 3:43:27.760 --> 3:43:30.680 could hear could hear some rumblings coming from Derek Dooley's office. 3:43:30.720 --> 3:43:32.760 So we'll see if they're gonna get into any was 3:43:32.840 --> 3:43:36.240 Derek on a rampage? Rampage is not fair, but you 3:43:36.320 --> 3:43:39.800 could just kind of hear him was he mumbling. It was. 3:43:40.320 --> 3:43:43.560 It was like an excited kind of chatter that classic. 3:43:43.640 --> 3:43:45.600 Well he's you know, and what they're doing, Like I said, 3:43:45.720 --> 3:43:48.199 these the scouts are with the coaches. They're doing recruiting 3:43:48.240 --> 3:43:50.720 and this is what Derek Dooley can do. Derek Dooley, 3:43:50.720 --> 3:43:53.360 get on the phone. That dude sell That dude will 3:43:53.400 --> 3:43:56.760 sell you like he'll sell you a bridge. Y. Yeah. Yeah, 3:43:56.920 --> 3:43:59.880 So that's what's going on right now, this this round, 3:44:00.040 --> 3:44:02.480 these picks will go. You know, teams have an idea, 3:44:02.680 --> 3:44:05.320 I bet, and you gotta believe the offensive coaches are like, 3:44:05.440 --> 3:44:07.760 give us somebody, Come on, it's been all defense. Well, 3:44:08.080 --> 3:44:10.160 who are the most elite players on this team? If 3:44:10.200 --> 3:44:12.920 you think right now, I'm aware of that. That doesn't 3:44:12.959 --> 3:44:15.880 mean Derek Dooley doesn't want another wide receiver. I'm sure 3:44:16.240 --> 3:44:18.520 Derek Dooley would like ten watch sup Arry Brown wants 3:44:18.520 --> 3:44:20.600 a running back to play around with. I bet you yeah, 3:44:20.720 --> 3:44:23.199 Well that they might see some again the priority free agents. 3:44:23.200 --> 3:44:28.080 They're showing some highlights right now of Neil Sterling and 3:44:29.040 --> 3:44:32.040 Danish Right. This kid is a good looking sucker, isn't 3:44:32.080 --> 3:44:35.080 He is a good looking kid wearing number seventeen and 3:44:35.120 --> 3:44:38.160 that's also you can probably count seventeen people in the stands. Yeah, 3:44:38.400 --> 3:44:42.920 he's not a big stadium, but from Mammoth College. And uh, 3:44:43.360 --> 3:44:45.320 you said not Miles Austin. He's much bigger than Miles 3:44:45.360 --> 3:44:48.680 Austin's right. Well, it's just you know, looking at the 3:44:48.760 --> 3:44:52.480 receiver still on the board, I'm just shocked about Trey McBride. 3:44:52.560 --> 3:44:55.960 Top one talent, Mike, Well, we've got Dallas's. Dallas's first 3:44:56.000 --> 3:44:58.640 pick is gonna be at two thirty six. This is 3:44:58.680 --> 3:45:02.640 the pick that they got from um, the San Diego Chargers. Uh, 3:45:02.879 --> 3:45:08.480 in the or it's I wasn't the defensive tackle. Oh 3:45:08.560 --> 3:45:13.760 my god, what's his name? Where it's killing? Oh, it's killing. 3:45:13.840 --> 3:45:17.320 I gotta I gotta remember. No, it's I can't. I 3:45:17.440 --> 3:45:20.480 can't not remember. You're not gonna remember that. No, it's 3:45:20.560 --> 3:45:23.920 just it's right on the tip of my tongue. I'm 3:45:23.959 --> 3:45:25.960 calling up the roster right now, and you're not helping. 3:45:26.040 --> 3:45:28.040 What's his name? I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see if 3:45:28.080 --> 3:45:32.920 you get it. Oh no, I mean I'm looking. Uh. Oh, 3:45:33.879 --> 3:45:36.680 really try hard, guy, No, I know, it's it's right 3:45:36.760 --> 3:45:38.880 on the tip of my tongue. Is he not with 3:45:39.040 --> 3:45:43.119 San Diego restricted guy. What's his name? What is his name? 3:45:44.440 --> 3:45:51.400 You don't know either? What a disasters terrible he was on? 3:45:51.520 --> 3:45:54.360 Oh you know, you seriously don't remember. I don't remember. 3:45:54.600 --> 3:45:56.480 Somebody tweet me what this guy's now? Oh, here we 3:45:56.560 --> 3:46:00.440 go and Everyboddy, Everybuddy John Nelson, John listen, that's what 3:46:00.560 --> 3:46:03.520 it was. I couldn't remember. I was open. You were 3:46:03.520 --> 3:46:06.000 gonna get acting like I'm a jerk because I don't know. 3:46:06.240 --> 3:46:08.680 I played some games without a helmet. I don't remember 3:46:08.760 --> 3:46:13.840 this stuff, Like Buddy John Nelson in Liverpool he gets 3:46:13.879 --> 3:46:18.640 Sean listen more, thank you very much, Anthony, whoopee, Jazz God, 3:46:18.920 --> 3:46:21.280 Justin and everyone of them, all these cowboy fans. Here 3:46:21.320 --> 3:46:22.680 we are. We worked to the team and we can't 3:46:22.680 --> 3:46:25.800 even remember these players. Is that what this pick is? 3:46:25.959 --> 3:46:27.840 I believe this pick was for him, kay, So I 3:46:27.920 --> 3:46:30.520 believe that that was what it was. So, uh so 3:46:30.720 --> 3:46:33.440 anyway that would be let's let's let's project now, I 3:46:33.520 --> 3:46:38.640 mean it's we got to try and project some guys here. 3:46:38.760 --> 3:46:43.199 I mean potentially, uh Dane value anything that you see 3:46:43.760 --> 3:46:46.280 that you think something that you you do not want 3:46:46.320 --> 3:46:49.000 to fight for in free agency. You want to go 3:46:49.080 --> 3:46:52.280 ahead and knock this thing out right now. I mean 3:46:52.360 --> 3:46:54.560 you want to go ahead and just say, Okay, this 3:46:54.720 --> 3:46:56.520 is what we're gonna do. We don't want to fight 3:46:56.560 --> 3:46:59.480 anybody in free agency. We're gonna we're gonna draft one 3:46:59.520 --> 3:47:02.040 of these guys, Sean listen more. And a lot of 3:47:02.120 --> 3:47:06.160 times that comes down to, you know, offensive lineman, you 3:47:06.240 --> 3:47:09.760 know the big guys that will have options in free agency, 3:47:09.840 --> 3:47:12.640 Guys that you know their phone is gonna be buzzing. 3:47:12.920 --> 3:47:16.040 And right now it's when you start calling these guys 3:47:16.080 --> 3:47:18.200 and say, hey, you know, we might draft you at 3:47:18.240 --> 3:47:20.520 two thirty six. We don't know, but if we don't, 3:47:21.200 --> 3:47:22.960 we're going to be very interested to bring you in 3:47:23.000 --> 3:47:25.480 as an undrafted free agent, a priority guy. You know, 3:47:25.879 --> 3:47:29.760 we love you. There you're selling, they're selling exactly. So 3:47:30.240 --> 3:47:33.280 right now is when they're on the phone. It's gonna 3:47:33.280 --> 3:47:36.040 be interesting with some of these players because it's a 3:47:36.120 --> 3:47:38.480 it's a it's a it's a game. You you kind 3:47:38.520 --> 3:47:40.400 of have to weigh who do you think you can 3:47:40.440 --> 3:47:42.560 get as an undrafted free agent? Who do you think 3:47:42.640 --> 3:47:44.800 you need to draft just to make sure you secure 3:47:44.840 --> 3:47:47.960 his rights? Uh, it's interesting part of the seventh round. 3:47:48.240 --> 3:47:52.120 Dave from what you know team needs wise for the 3:47:52.200 --> 3:47:55.119 Dallas Cowboys, You've addressed a lot of different things, mostly 3:47:55.160 --> 3:47:58.440 on the defensive side of the ball. Today and and 3:47:58.640 --> 3:48:02.920 and the last few days you have where do you 3:48:03.040 --> 3:48:06.160 see is there one position? Is there you need another? 3:48:06.560 --> 3:48:09.360 Do you need another guard? Do you need another you 3:48:09.440 --> 3:48:12.040 know you're thinking about preseason games and stuff like that. 3:48:12.320 --> 3:48:15.520 You know you need more offensive lineman kinding back. I mean, 3:48:15.640 --> 3:48:17.200 is this kind of well I was going to mention 3:48:17.280 --> 3:48:19.120 that this kind of plays into it. We've been mentioning 3:48:19.200 --> 3:48:22.039 this a few times over the weekend. Adam Schefter reporting 3:48:22.160 --> 3:48:25.680 that Zach Stacey is now a Jet in exchange for 3:48:25.879 --> 3:48:29.600 the two twenty four overall pick, which, okay, coming up, 3:48:29.800 --> 3:48:32.880 coming up. Yeah, so the Rams get another pick at 3:48:32.920 --> 3:48:36.080 two twenty four and exchange for a decent I mean, 3:48:36.240 --> 3:48:38.520 you know, I'm not gonna wouldn't be the starter here anyway. 3:48:38.879 --> 3:48:41.280 You know, I'm kind of of the opinion people will 3:48:41.320 --> 3:48:43.360 say running back, But if you weren't going to take 3:48:43.400 --> 3:48:46.000 a real difference maker, I think you got four that 3:48:46.120 --> 3:48:49.720 you can roll with. It is concerning, but it's not 3:48:49.840 --> 3:48:52.400 something that I'm concerned, like, you know, really worried about 3:48:52.560 --> 3:48:56.760 in terms of just adding depth. Guys, I think safety, 3:48:56.959 --> 3:48:58.920 you know, you think about sure, I mean not so 3:48:59.080 --> 3:49:02.240 much for safety play, but special teams. You know, the C. J. Spillman, 3:49:02.720 --> 3:49:05.560 Danny McCray type of guy that can do special teams. 3:49:05.600 --> 3:49:08.320 And and you know, like you said, preseason games, um, 3:49:08.520 --> 3:49:11.080 the hockey kid from TCUs still on the board, the 3:49:11.120 --> 3:49:13.120 guy they see as a free safety. I know you 3:49:13.240 --> 3:49:16.160 wave your hand, yeah. And then my guy Jefferson. And 3:49:16.720 --> 3:49:19.000 Jefferson is one that I when we brought him up, 3:49:19.000 --> 3:49:21.200 I mean we liked him at the Senior Bowl. I did. 3:49:21.280 --> 3:49:23.800 I think that I tried to convince Dane that that 3:49:23.960 --> 3:49:25.880 he was a really, really good player, and Dane kind 3:49:25.880 --> 3:49:30.480 of laughed at me. And that's okay. Jefferson, No, I 3:49:30.600 --> 3:49:32.960 do watch him call it he covers strong. I mean 3:49:33.080 --> 3:49:34.640 you watch you know, you talk about a guy that 3:49:34.680 --> 3:49:36.520 could play with a little rain. I mean, that's just me. 3:49:36.680 --> 3:49:38.400 This is this is where I like him though. I mean, 3:49:38.440 --> 3:49:40.240 this is we're talking later rounds. This is where I 3:49:40.280 --> 3:49:42.400 do like Anthony Jeffers. This is and this is I mean, 3:49:42.480 --> 3:49:44.560 that's what I'm looking at here is you know, they 3:49:44.680 --> 3:49:47.320 need they need gunners, they need kick returners, they need 3:49:47.440 --> 3:49:50.600 kick coverage guys. I still think, which I'm sure Derek 3:49:50.640 --> 3:49:53.000 Dooley is talking about right now, they could use a 3:49:53.160 --> 3:49:56.480 receiver to kind of help handle that load because I 3:49:56.520 --> 3:49:58.600 don't I don't look at Devin Street as a special 3:49:58.640 --> 3:50:01.880 teams type guy. Um, so that's that's where I'm looking. 3:50:02.360 --> 3:50:04.840 Focus on specialty. Let's go to the inside there, can't 3:50:04.840 --> 3:50:06.920 you get some news force breaking news. The Rams have 3:50:06.960 --> 3:50:09.640 traded Zach Stacy to the Jets for two twenty four. Okay, 3:50:09.680 --> 3:50:11.640 so two twenty four is now on the clock and 3:50:11.800 --> 3:50:14.480 that pick looks like it's going in, so we will 3:50:14.560 --> 3:50:18.360 see who in fact, uh the uh, the Saint Louis Rams. 3:50:18.440 --> 3:50:21.320 Saint Louis Rams scene, they've been picking the whole day. Yeah, 3:50:21.720 --> 3:50:24.680 it's the second day they've just been well, they made that. Um, 3:50:25.000 --> 3:50:26.800 they made that trade. They make it to the redskin 3:50:26.880 --> 3:50:28.680 trade where I didn't know about. No, they made they 3:50:28.800 --> 3:50:31.000 I think they made a trade with Carolina where Carolina 3:50:31.240 --> 3:50:35.000 jack sixteen spots. I'm with you, I'm with you, Okay. 3:50:35.120 --> 3:50:38.960 Bryce Hager is the pick from for the Saint Louis Rams. 3:50:39.320 --> 3:50:45.440 The inside linebacker Baylor Bear. Some peoplective sick, sick them, 3:50:45.960 --> 3:50:50.680 but to Texas, his dad was a big Texas All 3:50:50.720 --> 3:50:53.640 Southwest Conference player. Lining mac Brown's kicking himself. He didn't 3:50:53.680 --> 3:50:57.040 offer Bryce Hager more than a walk on opportunity for 3:50:57.120 --> 3:50:58.720 the long Horns because he went to Baylor and he 3:50:58.760 --> 3:51:00.520 had a terrific and actually, if you want, he played 3:51:00.520 --> 3:51:03.280 well against Texas in the game a chip, Yeah, he 3:51:03.360 --> 3:51:06.240 did have a chip. So yeah, Bryce Hager, the you 3:51:06.320 --> 3:51:08.440 know here, here's a guy I think in some mock drafts, 3:51:08.480 --> 3:51:11.560 I thought about putting Bryce Hager as that guy that, 3:51:11.760 --> 3:51:14.960 you know, that an instinctive kind of a player you 3:51:15.160 --> 3:51:17.960 flow to the football. Probably not the best athlete, but 3:51:18.080 --> 3:51:21.640 you talk about football smarts, intelligent player, all those things 3:51:21.720 --> 3:51:23.680 you want. There's some times where I thought he was 3:51:23.720 --> 3:51:26.680 a little bit iffy as a tackler, but the other times, 3:51:26.760 --> 3:51:29.000 you know, he wasn't one of those guys that dismissed 3:51:29.040 --> 3:51:33.680 every single tackle. So Bryce Hager, inside linebacker from Baylor 3:51:33.880 --> 3:51:37.400 goes to the Saint Louis Rams. So we're now to 3:51:37.600 --> 3:51:41.720 the Atlanta Falcons at pick two twenty five. Again trying 3:51:41.720 --> 3:51:45.480 to project some guys that potentially Dallas's first pick are 3:51:45.480 --> 3:51:48.280 Excuna first pick in the in the round will be 3:51:48.440 --> 3:51:52.760 at two thirty six. We seem to think that this 3:51:52.960 --> 3:51:55.520 could be kick returner type guys. We seem to think 3:51:55.600 --> 3:51:57.800 that maybe could there be a guard there? How about 3:51:57.800 --> 3:52:02.200 the how about the uh the uh the Mattis kid, 3:52:02.480 --> 3:52:05.680 I'm saying his name wrong from Florida State. Uh the 3:52:06.560 --> 3:52:10.120 m A t I A s Oh matthais Yeah, the 3:52:10.160 --> 3:52:15.960 guard matais, Yeah, Matais. Yeah. Anything Combine killed him? Yeah, 3:52:16.080 --> 3:52:17.320 that was what he was. Bad. It was bad. But 3:52:17.440 --> 3:52:20.240 the film is not terrible. Oh no, it's fourth round films, 3:52:20.360 --> 3:52:22.360 you know, around the never rounds. But yeah, I think 3:52:22.400 --> 3:52:26.160 that Combine really put up flares. Teams really worried about, 3:52:26.440 --> 3:52:29.360 you know, when you jump. Uh what he had like 3:52:29.400 --> 3:52:31.880 a twenty seven inch vertical or something ridiculous? Yeah, it was. 3:52:31.960 --> 3:52:34.520 It was not good. You he's I mean, he's a 3:52:34.640 --> 3:52:37.240 much better athlete on tape than he is. Yeah you 3:52:37.320 --> 3:52:39.480 aren't guessing that. Yeah, I'm sorry. Seventeen and a half 3:52:39.520 --> 3:52:42.520 inch Yeah, oh my god, I think I can do that. Yeah, yeah, 3:52:42.560 --> 3:52:45.200 all right. Jake Rogers the picks in. Jake Rogers from 3:52:45.240 --> 3:52:49.960 Eastern Washington is the pick Washington State trans Yeah, Washington State. 3:52:50.280 --> 3:52:53.560 He is a offensive tackle Eastern Washington. From Eastern Washington 3:52:53.560 --> 3:52:56.080 transferred from Washington State. I want to pick your brain 3:52:56.160 --> 3:52:59.720 for a sect. Though you mentioned guard twice. I mean 3:53:00.080 --> 3:53:02.440 you thinking that's a I mean they got they have 3:53:02.680 --> 3:53:05.200 three pretty good ones right now. Is that somewhere where 3:53:05.240 --> 3:53:07.240 you need to address? I just I was just thinking 3:53:07.240 --> 3:53:09.680 about preseason games and stuff like that. You know, you're 3:53:09.760 --> 3:53:11.840 sure you don't want to. You don't want to. I mean, hey, 3:53:11.880 --> 3:53:13.520 you want to say where and tear on these guys. 3:53:13.600 --> 3:53:15.840 You don't want, you know, Zach Martin having to play 3:53:15.840 --> 3:53:18.120 a lot of the draft pick on him though. I mean, well, 3:53:18.120 --> 3:53:19.560 if it's a guy that you feel like could maybe 3:53:19.560 --> 3:53:21.720 be a practice squad guy, Martin, you got Martin, you 3:53:21.800 --> 3:53:24.480 got Leary, you got mac. Yeah, you feel pretty good 3:53:24.480 --> 3:53:27.600 about all of them on your fifty s. Sure, but 3:53:27.720 --> 3:53:30.080 I mean I'm trying to maybe find a developmental guy here. 3:53:30.120 --> 3:53:32.000 I mean, I'm looking for traits. I'm just trying to 3:53:32.040 --> 3:53:34.440 find a trait. I know, I don't know. I mean, 3:53:35.080 --> 3:53:37.640 at the end of the day, we're quibbling. These aren't 3:53:37.680 --> 3:53:41.000 valuable picks. But well, you never know, I mean, you don't, 3:53:41.080 --> 3:53:43.560 you don't, you don't. Jay Ratliffe was a seventh round pick. Yeah, 3:53:44.120 --> 3:53:47.920 Marcus Colson was a seventh round pick. But no, you're right. 3:53:47.960 --> 3:53:50.080 I just when you're talking about a guy like that, 3:53:50.520 --> 3:53:54.280 you know you're set at that position in terms of 3:53:54.440 --> 3:53:57.080 meaningful player. I was just trying to find guys, and 3:53:57.480 --> 3:54:01.600 Bill Jones didn't like. He didn't like h Shed, I mean, 3:54:01.720 --> 3:54:05.680 and I not. Yeah, I disagree with I disagree with 3:54:05.760 --> 3:54:09.600 Bill on this Shed part because this is crazy. People 3:54:09.640 --> 3:54:12.000 from the Giants who are gonna announce their their wedding. 3:54:12.040 --> 3:54:14.840 It's their wedding anniversary or wedding day. They're gonna announce 3:54:14.880 --> 3:54:17.080 the pick. NFL fans are the best. Can't we pull 3:54:17.120 --> 3:54:19.240 this up? The Giants are about to make a pick. 3:54:19.320 --> 3:54:22.920 We welcome Paul and Jennifer Durrasmo. Guys, who's the Giants pick? 3:54:24.040 --> 3:54:26.640 With the ninth pick of the seventh round, number two 3:54:26.760 --> 3:54:29.960 hundred and twenty six overall, the New York Football Giants 3:54:30.120 --> 3:54:34.640 select Bobby Hart, guard Florida Speed, Florida State. There you go, 3:54:34.800 --> 3:54:36.720 Bobby Hart, not the one we were talking all right? Ohell, 3:54:36.800 --> 3:54:39.400 this is again. These people here, they just evidently got 3:54:39.560 --> 3:54:43.560 married at the draft party and now they're they're announced 3:54:43.560 --> 3:54:46.040 to pick. So Bobby our heart's interesting because he's his 3:54:46.120 --> 3:54:49.600 tape was not impressive at all. But he's at twenty 3:54:49.640 --> 3:54:53.240 years old. He arrived at Florida State as a sixteen 3:54:53.320 --> 3:54:55.680 year old. UM. So he's a very young player and 3:54:55.840 --> 3:54:59.040 teams love that youth. They think they can get the upside. 3:54:59.400 --> 3:55:03.160 But seeing him on the Giants not something cowboys fans 3:55:03.200 --> 3:55:08.080 have to worry about. Okay, review, I'd tell you this time. 3:55:08.360 --> 3:55:09.880 This is time of the day where that you get 3:55:09.920 --> 3:55:12.000 a little snarky. I think it is that the right 3:55:12.040 --> 3:55:14.840 word about these players. I'm just the fact I'm going 3:55:14.960 --> 3:55:17.600 to die laughing if Curtis Drummond is about to become 3:55:17.600 --> 3:55:19.640 a cowboy like I won't be able to interview the 3:55:19.720 --> 3:55:21.800 kid because I'll be last. I've talked to him to 3:55:22.160 --> 3:55:24.920 or talking to him a few times. He's he's he's awesome. 3:55:24.960 --> 3:55:27.280 He's a good kid to talk to, so U when 3:55:27.320 --> 3:55:29.520 we talk about the player, that's what I was talking about. 3:55:29.920 --> 3:55:31.920 But I think he has the mental toughness where he 3:55:32.000 --> 3:55:33.720 can take it. I mean he's can he take me 3:55:33.800 --> 3:55:35.880 ripping him a little bit? I think so. I mean 3:55:35.920 --> 3:55:37.600 he's taking in a seventh round for a reason, and 3:55:37.640 --> 3:55:39.280 so he knows he has to a lot to show 3:55:39.360 --> 3:55:42.160 up or a lot to prove once he arrives. Martin 3:55:42.280 --> 3:55:46.720 Effetti Effettie, his younger brother. We'll be talking about maybe 3:55:46.760 --> 3:55:51.200 next year at this time. Texas A and M offensive tackle. Wow, 3:55:51.360 --> 3:55:54.720 he's taking over for a boy he at left tackle. 3:55:54.800 --> 3:55:57.600 He's that you know they seem to have. Yeah, the 3:55:58.640 --> 3:56:02.040 Matthews right a boo. Now if Eddie's gonna be the 3:56:02.080 --> 3:56:04.160 next left tackle for the Aggies, and so we're gonna 3:56:04.160 --> 3:56:06.440 be talking about him. He almost came out this year 3:56:06.640 --> 3:56:08.600 as a as a redshirt sophomore. He got a second 3:56:08.680 --> 3:56:11.360 round grade. But he's going back to school and as 3:56:11.400 --> 3:56:13.480 a redshirt junior. If he comes out early, could be 3:56:13.760 --> 3:56:16.000 talking about him as a first rounder. Yeah, Texas A 3:56:16.040 --> 3:56:19.520 and M seems done a really nice job of recruiting. 3:56:19.600 --> 3:56:23.080 Sorry with Sherman. Yeah, and someone's kept that going. That's 3:56:23.320 --> 3:56:25.120 the whole lineman that had come out of that school 3:56:25.120 --> 3:56:27.280 in the last four or five years. Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, 3:56:27.320 --> 3:56:31.040 this Uh, the Minnesota Vikings are on the clock here 3:56:31.160 --> 3:56:35.560 at here in the seventh round, pick two twenty eight. 3:56:35.680 --> 3:56:38.880 We're working our way down to Dallas's pick, the first 3:56:38.920 --> 3:56:41.400 pick in the seventh round for them at pick two 3:56:41.800 --> 3:56:44.920 thirty six. So we were trying to come up with 3:56:45.040 --> 3:56:51.400 some names of potential potential draft picks. Again, we do 3:56:51.600 --> 3:56:54.520 we don't want to battle in free agency. And let's 3:56:54.600 --> 3:56:57.920 remember there we talked about like the top one hundred 3:56:57.920 --> 3:57:00.440 and fifty players. Say that, I think every one around 3:57:00.440 --> 3:57:02.840 the league say, Okay, this guy's gonna get drafted. Then 3:57:02.880 --> 3:57:07.040 the final one hundred are just trait. It's out of 3:57:07.200 --> 3:57:08.960 like a list of a thousand names. Yeah, and you 3:57:09.000 --> 3:57:11.040 know people say, well, how could this guy not be 3:57:11.120 --> 3:57:13.200 invited to the combine or how did how could you 3:57:13.280 --> 3:57:15.240 guys not have this guy on your radar. Well, when 3:57:15.280 --> 3:57:18.760 you're talking about again about the top one hundred and 3:57:18.800 --> 3:57:23.160 fifty guys are set in stone as probably draftable. Those 3:57:23.280 --> 3:57:26.200 next one hundred, the final one hundred draft picks are 3:57:26.280 --> 3:57:28.520 out of a pool of about a thousand names that 3:57:28.680 --> 3:57:30.640 these teams have done a lot of work on. And 3:57:31.000 --> 3:57:34.800 so it's it's impossible to accurately peg who who's which 3:57:34.800 --> 3:57:37.600 team's gonna take who in the seventh round. But there 3:57:37.840 --> 3:57:40.320 are some talented players are still available. We've seen some 3:57:40.400 --> 3:57:44.440 guys just go like rakeem Nunion's roaches. Austin Shepherd, a 3:57:44.480 --> 3:57:47.480 talented player him he took over for Dj Fluker at 3:57:47.480 --> 3:57:50.040 Alabama at right tackle. I think he's probably better inside 3:57:50.080 --> 3:57:53.480 a guard. So the Vikings, a team that's had a 3:57:53.520 --> 3:57:56.800 really good draft. They got TJ. Clemings late and they 3:57:56.880 --> 3:58:00.480 got Austin Shepherd late, two guys to help that offensive line. Again, 3:58:00.560 --> 3:58:02.560 it's just about you don't want to battle. I mean 3:58:02.920 --> 3:58:05.560 that they felt like, maybe, okay, let's go ahead. We 3:58:05.640 --> 3:58:07.840 can't wait to free agency. Let's just who is our 3:58:07.920 --> 3:58:10.000 highest rated guy on the board at this time, and 3:58:10.600 --> 3:58:12.040 we don't have to battle for at the end of 3:58:12.080 --> 3:58:14.120 the day. I'm skipping ahead here a little bit because 3:58:14.160 --> 3:58:16.520 obviously we've got two picks to make for the Cowboys. 3:58:16.720 --> 3:58:19.520 But you've been in that room when it's time to 3:58:19.960 --> 3:58:24.320 sign the free agents. Though the battle, yeah speak, it seems, 3:58:24.560 --> 3:58:26.960 doesn't Dallas have a leg up. I mean it's a 3:58:27.000 --> 3:58:30.320 warm Yeah. Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones is a closer. There's 3:58:30.360 --> 3:58:32.200 a lot of reasons why I feel like an undrafted 3:58:32.240 --> 3:58:34.160 free agent would want to come here over somewhere. The 3:58:34.200 --> 3:58:36.960 biggest and I mean it depends on the depth that Yeah, 3:58:36.960 --> 3:58:40.720 there's two words right there. The biggest reason why. Yeah, 3:58:40.840 --> 3:58:43.640 trust me, these players right now, No, they know the 3:58:43.720 --> 3:58:46.760 depth charge they pull up whatever, and honestly, they see 3:58:46.840 --> 3:58:49.520 how the drafts gone. Ry agent. If I'm Curtis Drummond 3:58:49.600 --> 3:58:52.240 or another prospect, at this point, I'm saying, I hope 3:58:52.240 --> 3:58:54.880 I don't get drafted, yeah, because then you go, yeah, 3:58:55.160 --> 3:58:57.800 I will likely have at least a handful of options 3:58:58.680 --> 3:59:00.280 of where I can go. That way, I can look 3:59:00.280 --> 3:59:02.240 at the depth charts say, okay, this team might have 3:59:02.320 --> 3:59:04.960 a need. Uh, and you really have your choice of 3:59:05.040 --> 3:59:07.760 where you end up. So is that a first Notre 3:59:07.840 --> 3:59:10.920 Dame player off the board? That would be Ben Koyak? 3:59:11.160 --> 3:59:14.000 Is the first Notre Dame or off the board? Talked 3:59:14.000 --> 3:59:18.280 about him, Dane, you go, he went to the Jacksonville Jaguars. 3:59:18.360 --> 3:59:21.480 This is a pick they acquired from the Cleveland Browns. 3:59:21.960 --> 3:59:27.400 So Ben Koyak at pick two, twenty nine, Senior Bowl guy. Again, 3:59:27.440 --> 3:59:30.280 we talked about the A and M pipeline of tackles, 3:59:31.560 --> 3:59:34.720 Notre Dame pipeline of tight ends. Uh. You know guys 3:59:34.800 --> 3:59:39.720 like Carlson and Rudolph and the first rounder to the 3:59:39.760 --> 3:59:43.440 Bengals what's his name? Yeah, hasn't really lived up to 3:59:43.480 --> 3:59:45.680 that first round billing yet coming off he's been injured. Right, 3:59:45.720 --> 3:59:48.240 we'll see what he does this year. Um and Koyak 3:59:48.320 --> 3:59:50.840 continues at wasn't the top one hundred guy like the 3:59:51.120 --> 3:59:53.920 other players we just mentioned, but still a talented player, 3:59:54.400 --> 3:59:57.040 well rounded. There's nothing too exciting about his film, but 3:59:57.280 --> 3:59:59.840 well rounded pass catcher who moved guy? I mean, I 4:00:00.000 --> 4:00:01.840 I see a lot of wing, a lot of across 4:00:01.880 --> 4:00:03.760 the formation, a lot of out in the flat. I'm 4:00:03.800 --> 4:00:06.640 going to separate, but you know he does have some 4:00:06.840 --> 4:00:10.640 he does have natural hands to compete for compete at 4:00:10.640 --> 4:00:13.360 the catchpoint. So I think with Koyak, you have a 4:00:13.520 --> 4:00:16.560 tight end who can compete for snaps. Fasano notre dame 4:00:16.640 --> 4:00:19.600 guy to another one Dallas's own, well Dallas for a 4:00:19.640 --> 4:00:22.720 little while at least, yeah, doesn't Bill parslays. Okay, The 4:00:22.800 --> 4:00:26.760 New Orleans Saints are on the clock at at two 4:00:27.040 --> 4:00:30.320 thirty here, so again we're from them. It would be 4:00:30.520 --> 4:00:33.920 Dallas Cowboys at two thirty six. We've yet to see 4:00:33.960 --> 4:00:37.400 anything come from the war room cam that's still covered. 4:00:37.920 --> 4:00:40.760 That's why you're seeing Dane Brugler from CBS Sports David's 4:00:40.760 --> 4:00:43.440 seventh Round guys calmed down, you can take the paper off. Well, 4:00:43.480 --> 4:00:45.240 they might be they might be getting their free agency 4:00:45.320 --> 4:00:48.440 plans together too as well. So good point. But anyway, 4:00:48.480 --> 4:00:50.760 we're gonna see two picks from them in this round. 4:00:51.680 --> 4:00:54.920 As Dane says, though there's some some value still there 4:00:55.240 --> 4:00:57.840 saints of the talking about the Cowboys going defense. I mean, 4:00:57.880 --> 4:01:00.560 they took Pete with their first pick, but it's been 4:01:00.840 --> 4:01:02.720 they took Pete and they took a quarterback, which is 4:01:02.720 --> 4:01:04.520 always going to move the needle for any team that 4:01:04.600 --> 4:01:06.720 takes a quarterback. But do we talk about the grace 4:01:06.800 --> 4:01:08.640 and pet I mean they smoke screen that we thought 4:01:08.640 --> 4:01:11.480 it was Petty they I thought it was Yeah, I 4:01:11.520 --> 4:01:13.520 thought it was Petty. It wasn't just the media. There 4:01:13.560 --> 4:01:16.600 weren't other NFL teams who were convinced Petty was their guy. 4:01:16.760 --> 4:01:20.320 So uh, they did a nice job of curveball. And 4:01:20.800 --> 4:01:23.320 you know, look over here while we do this. And 4:01:23.560 --> 4:01:26.520 but so, like I said, quarterbacks always gonna move the needle. 4:01:26.680 --> 4:01:28.960 You take your first pick as an offensive tackle. Every 4:01:29.000 --> 4:01:34.200 other pick they've made, which is one, two, three, four, five, six, 4:01:34.440 --> 4:01:36.880 all the six of their other picks or defenders. So 4:01:37.360 --> 4:01:39.160 Rob Ryan's gotta be a happy game, not gonna lie. 4:01:39.160 --> 4:01:40.480 I wasn't a big fan. I haven't been a big 4:01:40.520 --> 4:01:42.400 fan of the Saints what they're what they're doing. Did 4:01:42.400 --> 4:01:44.320 you call him a loser in this draft? I hate? 4:01:45.240 --> 4:01:47.400 I'm sorry, I don't mean that way, right. I mean 4:01:47.480 --> 4:01:49.800 a team that, a team that because you can't call 4:01:49.880 --> 4:01:51.480 loser because again, I had a guy telling me he 4:01:51.520 --> 4:01:53.000 had the worst draft in the history of the league. 4:01:53.200 --> 4:01:55.480 And then you know, three years later it's a it's 4:01:55.480 --> 4:01:57.320 for the eight picks man, exactly. And that's so for 4:01:57.400 --> 4:01:59.680 this article I'm doing for CBS, I'm picking five winners, 4:01:59.720 --> 4:02:03.200 five users. Instead of using those uh winners and losers, 4:02:03.600 --> 4:02:06.640 I'm going with five teams I think did really well, yeah, 4:02:06.720 --> 4:02:08.760 and then five teams who had me scratching my head 4:02:08.760 --> 4:02:11.160 a little bit, okay, for different reasons. The losers a 4:02:11.200 --> 4:02:12.600 strong thing when you talk about and I think the 4:02:12.640 --> 4:02:14.160 Saints are one of those teams that had me scratching 4:02:14.200 --> 4:02:15.840 my head a little. I kind of agree with and 4:02:16.040 --> 4:02:18.200 you know, I'm from New Orleans, but and I don't 4:02:18.240 --> 4:02:19.800 follow with the Saint. I don't have time if you're 4:02:19.800 --> 4:02:22.840 gonna see him next year. I don't love the Pete pick. 4:02:23.000 --> 4:02:26.040 I don't love the Stefan Anthony pick. I don't like 4:02:26.160 --> 4:02:27.920 the Garrett Grayson pick because I think it's the same 4:02:27.960 --> 4:02:29.920 thing as Tony Romo here, you're trying to win. Now, 4:02:30.040 --> 4:02:34.400 I do really like, um they got PJ. Williams and Kikaha. Yeah, 4:02:34.520 --> 4:02:37.600 I like both of those picks. Can Rush. I like, 4:02:37.760 --> 4:02:41.000 he's gonna fit good. The Saints have taken They've made 4:02:41.040 --> 4:02:45.360 a selection. They've taken Marcus Murphy, a running back from Missouri. 4:02:46.160 --> 4:02:51.080 So they grab another offensive player here, uh to help 4:02:51.440 --> 4:02:55.440 with their uh with things there at the running back situation. 4:02:55.520 --> 4:02:58.320 They let Peter Thomas go this past springs, which I 4:02:58.360 --> 4:03:00.720 mean not that you're expecting your seventh round pick two 4:03:02.120 --> 4:03:04.880 and really catch on, but we'll see. And here is 4:03:05.000 --> 4:03:07.520 a the next pick. Now this is how about this 4:03:07.600 --> 4:03:10.320 one for the this pick today, this pick or for overall. 4:03:10.640 --> 4:03:12.840 This is pick two thirty one. This pick started off 4:03:12.880 --> 4:03:17.600 originally in Tampa. It's gone. It's from Miami through Baltimore 4:03:17.720 --> 4:03:21.400 and Detroit, and now it's back at Tampa. That goes 4:03:21.600 --> 4:03:23.160 the list of more. Thing is like they made that 4:03:23.200 --> 4:03:26.280 trade two years ago. It's crazy, you know how something 4:03:26.320 --> 4:03:28.680 that Yeah, it's a it's crazy how these picks kind 4:03:28.720 --> 4:03:30.720 of you know, like, how did we even get this thing? Yeah? 4:03:31.160 --> 4:03:32.920 I thought that that was what the pick was for 4:03:33.160 --> 4:03:35.800 so so yeah, so this this will be the Tampa 4:03:35.920 --> 4:03:40.440 Bay Buccaneers are on the clock here again. Pick two 4:03:40.600 --> 4:03:45.160 thirty was made Marcus Murphy from the from Missouri. The 4:03:45.240 --> 4:03:47.600 running back goes of the Saints. We're waiting here on 4:03:47.720 --> 4:03:51.000 pick two thirty one. Uh. They still have names on 4:03:51.320 --> 4:03:54.760 their board. Uh to draft, even though they to say 4:03:54.800 --> 4:03:58.280 a phrase from Bill parcels, this looks like a Thanksgiving 4:03:58.360 --> 4:04:01.280 Day turkey. About two days later, here's it's nothing but 4:04:01.440 --> 4:04:05.800 bones and skin and interesting question though, and especially given 4:04:05.840 --> 4:04:08.240 what the Cowboys have done so far? Are there any 4:04:08.320 --> 4:04:10.440 guys I can think of one? Are there any guys 4:04:10.480 --> 4:04:13.280 that took thirty visits that are still on the board, 4:04:13.320 --> 4:04:15.760 because I mean, by and large, most of their picks 4:04:15.840 --> 4:04:18.720 so far have been guys that came into Valley Ranch. 4:04:18.760 --> 4:04:21.360 I don't think Ryan Russell did, No, he did not, 4:04:21.520 --> 4:04:23.920 but the other ones all did. Yeah, I mean Gregory 4:04:24.640 --> 4:04:27.360 did Ryan Russell say that he did come to because 4:04:27.560 --> 4:04:29.600 they worked him out in West Laffe. Yet maybe he 4:04:30.000 --> 4:04:31.560 might have snug. He might he might have he might 4:04:31.600 --> 4:04:34.080 have snow, he might have snuck. What's that kend He 4:04:34.160 --> 4:04:36.840 came down after Ben Bloom went up there, and I 4:04:36.880 --> 4:04:39.360 don't think he was an official national visit. He might 4:04:39.440 --> 4:04:41.520 have been a he might have been a Dallas Day 4:04:41.600 --> 4:04:44.160 Guallas Day. Yeah, Dallas Day guys, which I mean and 4:04:44.360 --> 4:04:45.880 you can bring in a lot more of those guys. 4:04:45.920 --> 4:04:49.280 So that's a different animal. But absolutely, absolutely so. But 4:04:49.440 --> 4:04:51.480 is there anybody on the board that took a visit 4:04:51.560 --> 4:04:54.400 like that that's still out there? Well, how about Farmer? 4:04:54.480 --> 4:04:57.040 That's that's the one that Yeah, George Farmer from USC 4:04:57.160 --> 4:04:59.360 would be a guy that we Yeah, I'm kind of 4:04:59.560 --> 4:05:02.360 I'm I'm keeping an eye on George Farmer right now. 4:05:02.640 --> 4:05:04.960 He fills the need that they have, and you know 4:05:05.080 --> 4:05:08.520 he was here, so we've talked. Definitely something worth keeping 4:05:08.560 --> 4:05:12.280 an eye on. Okay, let's see Tampa Bay still on 4:05:12.360 --> 4:05:14.920 the clock here waiting for their pick at two thirty one. 4:05:15.760 --> 4:05:17.720 You make a great point, though, Dave, about like the 4:05:17.840 --> 4:05:20.280 Dallas Day guys and stuff like that. I mean, it's 4:05:20.360 --> 4:05:22.360 I mean, I don't want to call it. I don't 4:05:22.360 --> 4:05:24.080 want to call it cheating. It's not like they're breaking 4:05:24.120 --> 4:05:26.400 any rules, but it's such an advantage for the cowboys. 4:05:26.480 --> 4:05:30.080 And actually Philly tried to get this rule change because 4:05:30.160 --> 4:05:32.320 you can, I mean, these these local visit days. You 4:05:32.360 --> 4:05:34.720 can bring in anyone that lives within a hundred miles 4:05:34.760 --> 4:05:37.000 of your facility. So, I mean, you think about all 4:05:37.040 --> 4:05:39.240 the talented football players I live in North Texas. That's 4:05:39.280 --> 4:05:42.440 I mean. Jaygie was here on Dallas Day and didn't 4:05:42.480 --> 4:05:45.440 count toward the National thirty visits because it's a Dallas 4:05:45.520 --> 4:05:47.440 Day product prospect. Even though he might have been one 4:05:47.440 --> 4:05:49.920 of the top guys on their board, that doesn't count 4:05:49.960 --> 4:05:53.360 against the tally. And maybe, you know, maybe bringing in 4:05:53.520 --> 4:05:56.880 Jaygie out as part of Dallas Day allowed them to 4:05:57.000 --> 4:06:00.520 bring in Damien Wilson instead, you know. So it's a 4:06:00.600 --> 4:06:03.280 tremendous advantage that that this is such a talent rich 4:06:03.760 --> 4:06:07.400 area of the country, for sure. Absolutely. And the Buccaneers 4:06:07.440 --> 4:06:14.400 have taken running back from Hawaii. Uh, Joey from the 4:06:14.520 --> 4:06:16.160 University of y I don't know, is that that the 4:06:16.280 --> 4:06:18.920 first University of Hawaii player that we've had selected? Are 4:06:19.160 --> 4:06:21.440 I know we had we had a quarterback selected that 4:06:21.680 --> 4:06:24.040 was in Hawaii. Oh, I thought you were gonna say 4:06:24.040 --> 4:06:29.320 Timmy Chang. Yeah, Marcus Mariota at the back. And they're 4:06:29.360 --> 4:06:32.080 showing it. It's great. They're showing a looks like to me, 4:06:32.840 --> 4:06:36.720 some our favorite City, London, England. Uh, maybe this is 4:06:36.760 --> 4:06:38.640 gonna be a pick. Let's see who is on the 4:06:38.720 --> 4:06:40.600 clock they're gonna make well, maybe not. They're just kind 4:06:40.600 --> 4:06:42.560 of bouncing around from draft to draft wherever all the 4:06:42.640 --> 4:06:45.080 cities are. I was hoping Lauren draper Wood was gonna 4:06:45.080 --> 4:06:46.720 make the pick. Yeah. I was hoping so too. That 4:06:46.760 --> 4:06:48.400 would have been very nice of her to see. If 4:06:48.440 --> 4:06:51.160 she's still listening, I shouted her out. Oh she she's listening. 4:06:52.480 --> 4:06:54.800 I am very These folks are not going to give 4:06:54.920 --> 4:06:59.040 up there. They are the toughest. They they they they 4:06:59.480 --> 4:07:02.120 love their football team, they love all the thing the NFL, 4:07:02.360 --> 4:07:04.200 and you know, shout out to all of them because 4:07:04.240 --> 4:07:06.480 we all love them as well, shout out out. So yeah, 4:07:06.880 --> 4:07:09.560 this will be a This is gonna be the Minnesota Vikings. 4:07:09.640 --> 4:07:13.480 His pick is from San Francisco through Miami. Uh, it's 4:07:13.560 --> 4:07:17.560 picked two thirty two. Uh. They were talking Dallas again 4:07:17.640 --> 4:07:20.520 once again at two thirty six. Uh, it looks like 4:07:20.640 --> 4:07:24.160 the board from what I've got left, I've got the 4:07:24.280 --> 4:07:27.960 whole kid, I think again, probably have him overrated. H 4:07:28.080 --> 4:07:32.880 as far as where hell Hull Hull, Hull, Mike Hall. Yeah, 4:07:33.200 --> 4:07:35.520 really tough. I talked to Sean Lee about this kid. 4:07:36.040 --> 4:07:38.720 I talked to this kid a lot. Okay, Yeah, so 4:07:39.000 --> 4:07:42.720 it's you know, he Sean's like he couldn't And Sean 4:07:42.880 --> 4:07:44.680 is very one of those guys when you visit with 4:07:44.760 --> 4:07:47.440 him about players or former players where he he's very 4:07:47.520 --> 4:07:50.000 honest about you know, he's talk he talks about this 4:07:50.080 --> 4:07:53.680 kid about football intelligence. You know, high motor guy, always 4:07:53.720 --> 4:07:55.280 around the football. I mean, you watch some of those 4:07:55.320 --> 4:07:57.120 games he played. This Sean Lee is just a fun 4:07:57.160 --> 4:07:59.120 guy to talk for. Yeah, but Sean Lee, Yeah, generally 4:07:59.160 --> 4:08:02.240 just talking football with him is great. And uh so 4:08:02.760 --> 4:08:04.360 you know he was telling me about this kid, goes, hey, 4:08:04.400 --> 4:08:08.320 this kid is really really the football intelligence. You know, 4:08:08.480 --> 4:08:10.840 you see him how he played, and he's right on tape. 4:08:11.240 --> 4:08:14.240 Uh He's he's one of those guys. And I had him. 4:08:14.520 --> 4:08:17.160 I had him in the fourth round obviously, and so 4:08:17.560 --> 4:08:19.760 you know, I'd like to see somebody select him. But 4:08:19.840 --> 4:08:21.880 I think you keep an eye on him as a 4:08:21.960 --> 4:08:23.720 player if he doesn't get select and goes to a 4:08:23.760 --> 4:08:27.120 team one day, you know, watch this kid, uh Hall 4:08:27.360 --> 4:08:31.880 from Penn State. So um to Penn State. Come to 4:08:32.000 --> 4:08:34.560 Penn State. Remember that commercial from a while ago. But 4:08:34.760 --> 4:08:38.520 Joe was a deal is Joe Paternoore was like the 4:08:38.600 --> 4:08:42.000 Big ten, the Big Tig ten commercials. He's like, yeah, 4:08:42.040 --> 4:08:45.680 I love that commercial. Yeah. Okay, Berry player drafted. Yeah, 4:08:45.800 --> 4:08:48.640 linebacker Edmund Robins Evan, do you know much about emand Robinson? 4:08:48.880 --> 4:08:52.600 First Newberry player drafted since nineteen seventy four. Okay, here 4:08:52.640 --> 4:08:57.160 we go. We got room, we got war room. Jerry's back. See, 4:08:57.200 --> 4:09:03.360 everybody's over conjugated by the board, by the over two. 4:09:03.400 --> 4:09:05.320 As you look at the screen over to the right 4:09:05.400 --> 4:09:07.800 side of the screen where Stephen Jones and Tom Saskowski 4:09:07.880 --> 4:09:10.560 are standing, it looks like to me, you got Derek 4:09:10.600 --> 4:09:13.960 Dooley's now in the room. So Derek Dooley is bringing 4:09:14.120 --> 4:09:17.160 on my dude. Here we go, Derek Dooley, I guarantee 4:09:17.200 --> 4:09:19.840 you right now, he is trying to figure out between 4:09:20.880 --> 4:09:24.800 Lewis McBride, Whitehead Farmer. He wants one of those guys 4:09:24.880 --> 4:09:27.440 they're trying and maybe even go back to back here 4:09:27.560 --> 4:09:30.760 he's trying to he's trying to get Will McClay standing 4:09:30.760 --> 4:09:32.960 in the background, hands in pockets. He's kind of They're 4:09:33.000 --> 4:09:34.880 just like, all right, Derek, calm down, we're gonna get 4:09:34.920 --> 4:09:38.040 your receiver. Just don't kill us. Yeah. Tom Saskowski over 4:09:38.080 --> 4:09:42.120 there to the right as well. So again, Edmund Robinson, 4:09:42.360 --> 4:09:44.360 you talked about new bra I'm sorry I interrupt you there. 4:09:44.400 --> 4:09:46.680 When I saw the warm camps go in no a 4:09:46.760 --> 4:09:48.760 small school player and you just look at him. He 4:09:49.120 --> 4:09:51.760 just he's physically impressive six two and a half to 4:09:52.000 --> 4:09:54.920 forty five, thirty four inch arms, four six one forty 4:09:54.960 --> 4:09:57.680 yard dash, So I think he checks a lot of boxes, 4:09:58.080 --> 4:10:02.600 physically very range player, but he's still just scratching the 4:10:02.640 --> 4:10:05.280 surface of who he's going to be down the road. Um, 4:10:05.560 --> 4:10:08.320 Niedzo do a better job working off blocks, Yeah, using 4:10:08.360 --> 4:10:10.960 that funk that length to be functional length and using 4:10:11.000 --> 4:10:13.760 his hands well to get off blocks. Ya. Y'all got 4:10:13.760 --> 4:10:18.400 an opinion on de Andrew White Alabama Alabama. I thought, 4:10:18.480 --> 4:10:22.840 you know, with obviously with Amari Cooper getting so much attention, 4:10:22.960 --> 4:10:24.520 you're going to get some looks. And I thought the 4:10:24.600 --> 4:10:27.200 Andrew White did a nice job as the second receiver 4:10:27.360 --> 4:10:31.240 for UH for the Tide a player that you know, 4:10:31.640 --> 4:10:33.800 he ran better at his pro day than I thought 4:10:33.880 --> 4:10:37.560 he played. But he has a few more drops than 4:10:37.560 --> 4:10:39.800 you'd like to see, but his catches, his highlights are 4:10:39.920 --> 4:10:42.920 their highlights. I mean, he makes some impressive catches playing 4:10:42.960 --> 4:10:45.920 opposite opposite Cooper, so I gave him a draft Bill 4:10:45.960 --> 4:10:49.080 grade as a later round guy. Um and at this point, 4:10:49.560 --> 4:10:52.120 wouldn't shock me if they go that direction between between 4:10:52.160 --> 4:10:54.560 the five of us here that did mocks on on 4:10:55.080 --> 4:10:59.280 Thursday morning for DC dot com. Uh, Brian took Lucky 4:11:00.200 --> 4:11:03.040 y'all took Lucky Whitehead. Brian took one. I mean one 4:11:03.080 --> 4:11:04.840 took him to thirty six and one took him to 4:11:05.000 --> 4:11:09.800 forty three. I took George Farmer and Rob Phillips took 4:11:09.840 --> 4:11:12.400 the Andrew White So kind of like our odds of 4:11:12.920 --> 4:11:14.480 hitting on one of these guys. My pick of two 4:11:14.600 --> 4:11:17.760 forty four was the guy the Patriots took at sixty four. 4:11:20.200 --> 4:11:24.160 I had Damian Yeah, Nick had JJ Nelson coming off 4:11:24.200 --> 4:11:26.480 the board last, and he's been gone for a while now. 4:11:27.640 --> 4:11:31.200 Um See, the Buffalo Bills just took a wide receiver 4:11:31.360 --> 4:11:33.440 that Dane. I didn't even I didn't even realize Dane 4:11:33.520 --> 4:11:37.120 hit on Damian Wilson. Wait, you had him in the fifth. 4:11:37.200 --> 4:11:39.880 They took him in the fourth. Still, good job. I 4:11:39.960 --> 4:11:44.960 mean Bryan hit on Gregory Jazz Green, Dane hit on 4:11:45.640 --> 4:11:51.440 and Wilson. Yes, it was I giving you grief a 4:11:51.440 --> 4:11:54.720 little bit. I hit on deserve a little grief. Yeah, 4:11:54.760 --> 4:11:56.480 we all do. We all deserve a little grief. You know, 4:11:56.520 --> 4:11:58.960 when you're a draft expert, you gotta be a draft expert. Right, 4:11:59.160 --> 4:12:02.520 there's no such thing as Nick Nick Knicks mock draft 4:12:02.680 --> 4:12:05.240 is just oh so close. He had Shack Thompson, which 4:12:05.240 --> 4:12:06.760 could have been could have very well been the pick. 4:12:06.880 --> 4:12:09.360 Yet he had David Johnson, which I think would have 4:12:09.400 --> 4:12:12.720 been in consideration if he had lasted. And um and 4:12:12.880 --> 4:12:15.640 Frank Clark, who obviously the Seahawks took him a lot 4:12:15.720 --> 4:12:17.960 higher than the Cowboys might have. Yeah. Well, we talked 4:12:17.960 --> 4:12:20.440 about the receivers too, and now and and oh and 4:12:20.560 --> 4:12:22.920 and and Rob excuse me, Rob Phillips hit on Byron 4:12:23.040 --> 4:12:25.080 Jones that on that on the nail with the number one, 4:12:25.360 --> 4:12:26.800 and that's what you gotta do. Gott hit him that 4:12:26.880 --> 4:12:30.720 first one. Okay. We talked about Buffalo took Uh took 4:12:30.840 --> 4:12:37.640 Desmond Lewis Uh, the wide receiver from Central Arkansas. Great field, 4:12:37.680 --> 4:12:40.160 by the way, that was the guy. That's yeah, that's 4:12:40.160 --> 4:12:42.200 the guy with They had the field. It has every 4:12:42.280 --> 4:12:44.840 five yards, it's a purple a purple or a guy. 4:12:44.880 --> 4:12:47.880 I mean, it's really really make me nauseous. It's it 4:12:48.000 --> 4:12:49.960 can It's not as bad as the red turf up 4:12:49.960 --> 4:12:52.480 at East. How do they allow that? Yeah? Or the 4:12:52.720 --> 4:12:55.760 blue turft Uh, that's yeah, the blue is at least 4:12:55.800 --> 4:12:57.880 the blue is kind of iconic. Desmond Lewis is the 4:12:57.960 --> 4:13:00.520 perfect seventh round pick. Yeah, I think, guy, you thought 4:13:00.560 --> 4:13:02.960 maybe in the middle rounds, he's available in the seventh 4:13:03.040 --> 4:13:06.280 take a chance on the player. The film's not bad, 4:13:06.520 --> 4:13:09.440 I mean, yeah, exactly, and you love you look at 4:13:09.560 --> 4:13:11.840 I mean six four, two fifteen. He's built well, yeah, 4:13:12.160 --> 4:13:14.320 has some room to even get bigger and fill out. 4:13:15.320 --> 4:13:18.200 The production is there at Central Arkansas he finished with 4:13:18.240 --> 4:13:21.520 almost two hundred catches. He was there starting ex receiver 4:13:21.880 --> 4:13:24.560 and a guy that needs him polish. But at the 4:13:24.640 --> 4:13:28.080 same time, the foundation traits are there, and so we 4:13:28.160 --> 4:13:31.000 talk about the traits. It's there with him. Love is 4:13:31.040 --> 4:13:32.840 catching radius. I think that's a big part of his 4:13:32.960 --> 4:13:35.640 game and something that will help him develop into something 4:13:35.760 --> 4:13:38.640 more than just a lowly seventh round pick. Well, the 4:13:38.680 --> 4:13:41.520 Houston Texans are currently on the clock at two thirty five, 4:13:41.640 --> 4:13:45.160 about a minute left with their selection, you know, and 4:13:45.240 --> 4:13:48.600 then Dallas will go on the clock. They're having this 4:13:48.720 --> 4:13:51.920 discussion right now when you have picks that are pretty 4:13:52.000 --> 4:13:54.440 close to each other, which direction, who is most Like 4:13:54.560 --> 4:13:57.280 I've been in these conversations before, who is the guy 4:13:57.360 --> 4:14:00.720 that's most likely to be there? And they if they could, 4:14:00.760 --> 4:14:02.560 if they could stretch it to that last pick. So 4:14:02.640 --> 4:14:05.160 they're trying to agree here who they need to take 4:14:05.320 --> 4:14:07.840 first and then who they need to take second. Derek 4:14:07.920 --> 4:14:10.600 Dooley has, in fact sitting down at the table. I 4:14:10.720 --> 4:14:13.320 think I think it's gonna be farmer. I'm only saying 4:14:13.360 --> 4:14:15.080 that because I mocked him and I wanted to happen. 4:14:15.240 --> 4:14:19.320 But I just just got a question about um Nick Marshall, 4:14:19.600 --> 4:14:23.720 the Auburn quarterback, that I'm surprised that he is still available. 4:14:23.720 --> 4:14:26.360 We talk about the traits, you know, seventh round is 4:14:26.360 --> 4:14:28.840 it bad and the senior ball playing some corner players 4:14:28.880 --> 4:14:30.840 has no idea what he's doing. You threw them out there. 4:14:30.880 --> 4:14:32.640 I mean, that's that's that's what we're talking about in 4:14:32.640 --> 4:14:35.520 the seventh round, the developmental type that maybe you take 4:14:35.560 --> 4:14:39.880 a chance on. You know, it's low risk, possible, high reward. Yeah, 4:14:40.080 --> 4:14:43.480 surprise he's still available. Yeah, that's that that is as 4:14:43.520 --> 4:14:46.160 a case, you're absolutely right about the now Matt. Now 4:14:46.240 --> 4:14:50.040 Matt has joined the Fray. So now you're wait a second, No, no, 4:14:50.280 --> 4:14:53.680 stop with the receiver talk get more back. Okay the Cowboys, 4:14:53.760 --> 4:14:56.400 will you get out of here? The Cowboys are officially 4:14:56.680 --> 4:14:59.960 on the Clyde Houston made their selection, yet I don't 4:15:00.000 --> 4:15:02.120 don't see a name. Yeah, I think we need to 4:15:02.200 --> 4:15:05.560 wait Houston. It might be out on the Twitter sphere somewhere. Yeah, 4:15:05.760 --> 4:15:08.800 you need to figure this out. And but if Houston 4:15:08.880 --> 4:15:10.920 in factors make it their pick, that would put Dallas 4:15:11.000 --> 4:15:13.120 on the clock. Okay, the picks in. So if the 4:15:13.200 --> 4:15:16.040 picks in, then Dallas will be on the clock. Uh. 4:15:16.160 --> 4:15:21.040 And let's see who the Houston Texans in fact grabbed. Okay, 4:15:21.160 --> 4:15:23.920 it looks like they're gonna take Kenny Hilliard are running 4:15:23.960 --> 4:15:29.280 back from bump. There we go. Surprise you went ahead 4:15:29.280 --> 4:15:31.680 of John Nelson in Liverpool's happy too, because he likes 4:15:31.680 --> 4:15:34.640 when LSU players get drafted as well. I don't know. 4:15:34.720 --> 4:15:37.520 I think I like. I think Kenny's got more upside 4:15:37.520 --> 4:15:39.760 than McGee. Although I could see McGee being a really 4:15:39.800 --> 4:15:42.040 good special teams player, I can't see that they were 4:15:42.040 --> 4:15:45.040 both guys Dallas. I'm pretty surprise either one of the 4:15:45.280 --> 4:15:46.840 Dallas is now on the clock. Boys, you got a 4:15:46.880 --> 4:15:49.360 selection here you want to talk about I already threw 4:15:49.480 --> 4:15:52.080 my hat in the ring for Georgie. Okay, this is 4:15:52.120 --> 4:15:54.280 gonna be picked two thirty six. This is the first 4:15:54.960 --> 4:15:57.200 I mean we got We have two position coaches in 4:15:57.240 --> 4:15:59.400 the rooms. So you got a linebacker coach and a 4:15:59.480 --> 4:16:03.880 receivers coach talking Lucky Whitehead, I mean, okay, Thompson scouts. 4:16:03.920 --> 4:16:06.400 He's gone onto the phone, so let's see what we've 4:16:06.480 --> 4:16:09.240 got here. Build a creaker in the back. He's a 4:16:09.320 --> 4:16:12.040 scout that there's working on free agents. You could tell 4:16:12.120 --> 4:16:14.080 that list that he has in hand. They're working on. 4:16:14.200 --> 4:16:16.680 They're trying to make sure that they and the phone 4:16:16.720 --> 4:16:18.600 goes across to Jerry Jones. But like I said, Billy 4:16:18.680 --> 4:16:22.240 the craker as a scout and he's working with one 4:16:22.280 --> 4:16:24.200 of the coaches. The scouts are signed to one of 4:16:24.240 --> 4:16:27.440 the coaches to work in free agency to help recruit 4:16:28.040 --> 4:16:31.320 these players. So uh, let's see who in fact that 4:16:31.480 --> 4:16:35.480 they do select here. Uh, you know they could they 4:16:35.800 --> 4:16:38.600 they've gone defense the whole time. I mean defense, what 4:16:38.720 --> 4:16:42.120 I I mean we're talking we're quibbling here over seventh 4:16:42.200 --> 4:16:45.600 round picks. But go get this. Go get your kick returner, guy, 4:16:45.680 --> 4:16:47.760 go get your receiver. Well, they might, like I say, 4:16:47.800 --> 4:16:50.280 it might be a situation where they go one over 4:16:50.400 --> 4:16:51.920 the up. I mean they no, no, yeah, I mean 4:16:51.960 --> 4:16:54.120 you got trying to figure out but they're trying to 4:16:54.160 --> 4:16:56.600 figure out where there's more likely to last. Yeah, who's 4:16:56.640 --> 4:16:59.200 more likely to last? So that with the with the 4:16:59.280 --> 4:17:02.040 picks back to act like that, Uh, you know you 4:17:02.120 --> 4:17:04.320 need to you need to figure this out and and 4:17:04.440 --> 4:17:07.000 and say, Okay, which guy's more likely to be there 4:17:07.520 --> 4:17:10.960 than than not? So shout out Jason Garrett for rocking 4:17:11.040 --> 4:17:13.680 a code and tie all the way through this marathon. Brian, 4:17:13.760 --> 4:17:15.440 you're wearing a tie. Good for you. Yeah, well, I've 4:17:15.480 --> 4:17:17.480 got to do some TV stuff. Okay, the picks in 4:17:17.600 --> 4:17:20.280 for the Dallas Cowboys, and let's see who in fact, 4:17:20.640 --> 4:17:25.840 oh oh, we have talked about. Yeah, the linebacker from 4:17:25.880 --> 4:17:31.120 my from Wyoming is in fact the selection here. All right, 4:17:31.560 --> 4:17:35.480 help me on this name Dane. It rhymes with gotcha. Okay, 4:17:35.600 --> 4:17:43.520 so that doesn't help much, doesn't Yeah? Yeah, in silent, 4:17:43.720 --> 4:17:45.520 I believe on this day because you got all the things. 4:17:45.560 --> 4:17:50.160 I'm pretty sure it's Mark Mark Zacha. Yeah. Well, well 4:17:50.200 --> 4:17:52.280 it rhymes with gotcha. I know that. Yeah, well, I 4:17:52.360 --> 4:17:54.280 know you do all your stuff for your for your 4:17:54.320 --> 4:17:56.880 book and stuff like that. So right, Well, and he 4:17:57.040 --> 4:17:59.320 was a player that I gave a p F A 4:17:59.440 --> 4:18:04.360 grade to. Uh. He's athletic towards ACL. I got the 4:18:04.400 --> 4:18:10.840 pronunciation for us okayza. That sounds right in Zachai. So 4:18:10.960 --> 4:18:14.960 he towards ACL in twenty fourteen or twenty twenty fourteen. Yeah, 4:18:15.440 --> 4:18:17.360 San vers San Jose State, And I'm looking over my 4:18:17.440 --> 4:18:21.920 notes on the player against Michigan State. Aggressively takes on blocks. 4:18:21.960 --> 4:18:25.360 A good athlete with range speed in pursuit, too often 4:18:25.360 --> 4:18:27.720 find himselfs stuck in the middle of the field, worry 4:18:27.720 --> 4:18:30.920 about his anticipation, takes himself out of some plays. Uh 4:18:31.080 --> 4:18:34.040 struggles to see every blocker, which impedes him in the 4:18:34.080 --> 4:18:37.200 middle of the field. Needs to improve his spatial awareness. Um. 4:18:37.400 --> 4:18:40.400 Sometimes he looks like he's playing two in touch. But 4:18:40.720 --> 4:18:42.760 an overall a very good athlete, and I think that's 4:18:42.840 --> 4:18:45.600 why he was drafted here and why you feel good 4:18:45.640 --> 4:18:47.680 about him on special teams. I felt like, though, that 4:18:47.800 --> 4:18:49.640 this guy could flow to the ball. I thought he 4:18:49.680 --> 4:18:52.080 can avoid blocks, play down hill quickly, nose for the ball, 4:18:52.200 --> 4:18:54.200 needs to be on the move. Again, there's times when 4:18:54.240 --> 4:18:56.600 he got hooked up. This guy runs four five six, 4:18:57.000 --> 4:18:58.920 you know, but he's six two athlete. Yea, yeah, he's 4:18:59.200 --> 4:19:01.520 he's six two, two hundred and thirty two pounds after 4:19:01.640 --> 4:19:04.200 to chase his outside place with some balance when going 4:19:04.320 --> 4:19:06.720 down the line. Trouble when he gets hooked up. I 4:19:06.800 --> 4:19:09.720 think Dane saw that as well. He could change the direction, 4:19:09.840 --> 4:19:11.520 take the back out of the backfield. So that's some 4:19:11.560 --> 4:19:13.960 of the coverage things I was able to see. Puts 4:19:14.040 --> 4:19:16.000 himself in position to cover. I think one time I 4:19:16.120 --> 4:19:17.920 ran there was a wheel route that went up the 4:19:17.960 --> 4:19:19.800 sidelines and he was able to run with This guy. 4:19:19.880 --> 4:19:22.440 Watched the Michigan State game in the Oregon game, so 4:19:22.720 --> 4:19:24.640 I watched two teams that have guy, I mean the 4:19:24.720 --> 4:19:27.680 guys that can get especially Oregon going up field. I said, 4:19:27.680 --> 4:19:29.800 I like the way he flies to the ball, plays 4:19:29.840 --> 4:19:31.880 with pace and quickness. It could see him being a 4:19:31.960 --> 4:19:35.120 core special teamer and a backup will linebacker, was what 4:19:35.240 --> 4:19:38.160 I thought about this guy. Basachi was in there, so yeah, 4:19:38.400 --> 4:19:43.760 this is what they're doing in Zacha right in Zacha, 4:19:44.000 --> 4:19:48.480 is what this mark in Zacha linebacker from Wyoming my 4:19:48.640 --> 4:19:52.280 Sky report. Again, Dane had his as well. Dane's right. 4:19:52.360 --> 4:19:54.800 He had an ACL tear in the seventh game of 4:19:54.880 --> 4:19:58.080 the twenty fourteen se San Jose. Yeah, when we when 4:19:58.320 --> 4:20:00.600 I mean and again we know too is the same. 4:20:00.680 --> 4:20:03.440 But when when do we make that timetable? Then? Yeah, 4:20:03.520 --> 4:20:05.520 that's a question that needs to be asked. It doesn't 4:20:05.520 --> 4:20:07.600 sound like a guy who can take the field. Yeah, 4:20:07.800 --> 4:20:09.360 well maybe if we if we get a chance to 4:20:09.400 --> 4:20:11.280 interview him here and then you know, and and and 4:20:12.240 --> 4:20:15.920 uh and see how that is uh coming forward. But 4:20:16.280 --> 4:20:19.120 now kay, they've got another pick uh coming up here. 4:20:19.440 --> 4:20:21.240 They took with us sounded what I feel like as 4:20:21.280 --> 4:20:24.520 a backup will linebacker and special teams guy. Again, you're 4:20:24.520 --> 4:20:27.160 looking for traits. Dany talks about a guy that can run. 4:20:27.320 --> 4:20:31.240 I see that their activity this this afternoon does not 4:20:31.400 --> 4:20:34.320 make you feel good for Cameron Lawrence, does it. No, 4:20:34.720 --> 4:20:37.760 it really hasn't. It really hasn't. So you know, he 4:20:37.960 --> 4:20:39.440 kind of I mean, he was kind of that guy. 4:20:39.560 --> 4:20:42.280 You know, he's your he's your last ditch depth at 4:20:42.400 --> 4:20:45.720 linebacker and all obviously a special teams guy. Uh. And 4:20:45.880 --> 4:20:49.120 they have drafted two guys that kind of fit that description. Today, 4:20:49.240 --> 4:20:51.880 so many linebackers. Oh my gosh, I think there's fourteen 4:20:51.960 --> 4:20:53.880 on the roster now, it's it's it's going to be 4:20:53.960 --> 4:20:56.960 a free for all when we get out to Hawksnard. Well, 4:20:57.040 --> 4:20:59.480 that's you know, it's again it's about now trying to 4:20:59.560 --> 4:21:01.760 help your special teams out and this this type of 4:21:01.800 --> 4:21:04.360 pick is a value pick because he wasn't even able 4:21:04.400 --> 4:21:07.520 to work out prior to the draft, and so you're 4:21:07.600 --> 4:21:10.840 going based off a tape. Did we mock him at 4:21:10.920 --> 4:21:12.880 one point when they're like the second mock? I think 4:21:13.200 --> 4:21:16.480 I think I hadn't. Think we've definitely talked about him. Yeah, 4:21:17.240 --> 4:21:21.720 they're showing some highlights right now. He can play. He's rangy. 4:21:21.760 --> 4:21:23.640 You see him play all over the field. I think 4:21:23.680 --> 4:21:26.640 he does aggressively take on blocks, but I do worry 4:21:26.680 --> 4:21:29.640 about him necessarily seeing the blocks. I thought he had 4:21:29.680 --> 4:21:31.160 to go on the move. I like what you're talking 4:21:31.200 --> 4:21:33.440 about it again. Yeah, when you're talking about, you know, 4:21:33.600 --> 4:21:35.600 being on being on the move and all that, I 4:21:36.440 --> 4:21:39.040 I agree with you on that. I do agree. I 4:21:39.160 --> 4:21:41.480 think that you know, you you talk about taking on 4:21:41.600 --> 4:21:44.440 and stuff like that, you would have told me I 4:21:44.520 --> 4:21:47.960 didn't even really Okay, uh in Za he's reading this 4:21:48.040 --> 4:21:50.840 on Twitter. He's also from Germany. Yes, okay, okay, so 4:21:51.080 --> 4:21:54.440 it's very nice, interesting on several levels. Okay. The Cincinnati Bengals, 4:21:54.520 --> 4:21:57.000 they just at two twenty or two two thirty eight. 4:21:57.400 --> 4:22:01.880 They took West Virginia wide receiver Mario Alford. We talked 4:22:01.880 --> 4:22:05.840 about him earlier, had more touchdowns this year, thank Kevin White. 4:22:06.000 --> 4:22:09.320 A little overshadowed by White, but he can fly. He 4:22:09.600 --> 4:22:12.520 can be a deep threat. Uh, smaller than you'd want. 4:22:12.720 --> 4:22:16.160 The catching radius is smaller, but uh, you got to 4:22:16.160 --> 4:22:18.600 catch him first. And so with Alford, I think you 4:22:18.640 --> 4:22:21.320 have a pretty good player. Bengals got excellent value there. 4:22:22.400 --> 4:22:25.520 Make more picks before Dallas. Dallas is down. Yeah, we're two. 4:22:25.800 --> 4:22:29.520 We're at two thirty nine here Pittsburgh Dallas is sitting 4:22:29.560 --> 4:22:32.920 at two forty three. So again, how how did they 4:22:32.920 --> 4:22:35.720 how they played this board? Had they gone they said, Okay, 4:22:35.760 --> 4:22:37.680 who's the guy that's most likely to be there, who's 4:22:37.680 --> 4:22:40.080 the guy that's most likely not to be there? I 4:22:40.160 --> 4:22:44.680 evidently thought that Mark Zacha would be in Zach's gonna 4:22:44.680 --> 4:22:47.920 be gonna drill this into you. I know Inzaza would 4:22:47.920 --> 4:22:50.680 be would be the guy. So you know that there's 4:22:50.720 --> 4:22:53.200 some interesting linebacker name still on the board with guys 4:22:53.240 --> 4:22:56.320 like Mike Hole and Taiwan Jones. Is he still out 4:22:56.320 --> 4:22:58.720 there in Michigan? Stay? Yeah, Tiwan Jones, I get you say, 4:22:58.760 --> 4:23:02.040 and then you trail. We talked about trail. I think 4:23:02.040 --> 4:23:04.200 the way that Derek well, Derek Dooley is now out 4:23:04.280 --> 4:23:07.360 of the room as actually Derek on second thought, please 4:23:07.520 --> 4:23:10.040 please leave. Yeah, we don't need you here. There's not 4:23:10.200 --> 4:23:12.480 going to be a receiver pick. Yeah, he could still 4:23:12.520 --> 4:23:14.040 be there. For all we know, we can really only 4:23:14.080 --> 4:23:16.280 see so much of the world. I wouldn't be surprised though, 4:23:16.360 --> 4:23:18.600 if this is okay, oh fine, here we go. Uh 4:23:20.280 --> 4:23:22.920 with the Steelers on the clock, let's see the picks 4:23:22.960 --> 4:23:27.600 in and I think that let's see who it's gonna 4:23:27.640 --> 4:23:29.800 be on the phone here. Yeah, we're on the phone. Yeah, 4:23:29.840 --> 4:23:33.600 exactly what Adam Kaplan is reporting that in Zacha had 4:23:33.600 --> 4:23:36.320 to work out last week, so he was able to 4:23:36.400 --> 4:23:39.120 work out draft right four five to forty yard dashed 4:23:39.120 --> 4:23:42.920 to eleven broad jump. So good a player where the 4:23:43.000 --> 4:23:46.080 measurables look good, the testing looks good. Guess I mean 4:23:46.160 --> 4:23:48.320 if he tour his ACL in October. That means it's 4:23:48.360 --> 4:23:50.960 been about seven months, which I mean you're talking about 4:23:50.960 --> 4:23:54.120 eight to nine for an ACL. So who knows. All Right, 4:23:54.240 --> 4:23:58.160 the Steelers have selected Drout Holloman, the man who I 4:23:58.280 --> 4:24:00.920 like to call the coward of this draft, and I think, 4:24:00.960 --> 4:24:03.160 but he's an NFL player now, so I shouldn't probably 4:24:03.200 --> 4:24:07.360 call him that anymore. Pittsburgh Pittsburgh did the NFL was 4:24:07.400 --> 4:24:09.440 too hand touched. He would be an all pro. Yeah, 4:24:09.440 --> 4:24:12.000 you know that. That's something really If you take one 4:24:12.080 --> 4:24:14.560 thing away from our coverage this weekend, it's that Brian 4:24:14.640 --> 4:24:18.320 and Dane don't like Holloman. Well, it's allergic to tackling, 4:24:18.480 --> 4:24:20.640 That's what I'm saying. Though. The problem, the problem I 4:24:20.800 --> 4:24:24.400 run into is initially this guy started off his first round. 4:24:24.440 --> 4:24:26.040 Everybody had him in the first round, had him if 4:24:26.080 --> 4:24:28.080 they saw the interception. Yeah, And that's what I'm saying. 4:24:28.160 --> 4:24:30.640 When you it's more than just going and being in 4:24:30.680 --> 4:24:32.920 the right place at the right time catching the tip ball. 4:24:33.360 --> 4:24:37.760 It's much more than that. This kid turned down tackles. Hey, 4:24:37.920 --> 4:24:40.160 and it made a business decision. How many picks did 4:24:40.160 --> 4:24:42.520 he have? Fourteen? Yeah, And let's so that everybody's on 4:24:42.560 --> 4:24:44.840 the phone here in the war room. I wonder going on. Yeah, 4:24:44.920 --> 4:24:47.160 they're all talking to guys that wonder if somebody's trying 4:24:47.160 --> 4:24:52.200 to give again next year's picks to be to for 4:24:52.440 --> 4:24:55.000 this for their pick. They're they're now laughing, They're gonna 4:24:55.000 --> 4:24:57.040 stand in there and make picks. You guys are just 4:24:57.200 --> 4:24:59.400 flipping them stuff just to have some fun here. But 4:25:00.280 --> 4:25:03.760 the Detroit Lions are now on the clock. Uh. And 4:25:03.880 --> 4:25:07.840 then and then you've got the Arizona Cardinals, the Carolina Panthers, 4:25:07.920 --> 4:25:12.560 and then your Dallas Cowboys. Uh, to finish out this round. 4:25:12.760 --> 4:25:14.480 Are just going to finish out the round with the Cowboys. 4:25:14.480 --> 4:25:16.480 And then it becomes we still got a lot of picks. Yeah, 4:25:16.480 --> 4:25:18.800 we got When the Cowboys make their pick, I'm probably 4:25:18.840 --> 4:25:21.920 gonna go help everybody. Well, Dana and I will, guys 4:25:21.960 --> 4:25:23.640 finish it out. We'll put this thing to bed and 4:25:24.000 --> 4:25:25.840 kind of do all those things that we have to do. 4:25:26.080 --> 4:25:30.440 So um or actually, do we know if Zacho or 4:25:30.520 --> 4:25:32.120 the other like, are we getting them on the air. 4:25:32.760 --> 4:25:38.080 I don't, I don't know. I don't get that impression. Okay, okay, yeah, 4:25:38.240 --> 4:25:40.480 is he coming to us after that? He's on the 4:25:40.520 --> 4:25:44.320 air right now. Oh, okay, Mark, Mark, Yeah, Hey, how's 4:25:44.320 --> 4:25:47.080 it going? All right? That'll work? Hey, Mark, This Brian 4:25:47.160 --> 4:25:52.000 broad Us, Dame Burglar, and David Hellman. Welcome to uh 4:25:52.080 --> 4:25:54.080 we we're covering the draft here. It's been kind of 4:25:54.160 --> 4:25:56.520 like a chaotic right now here at the Valley Ranch. 4:25:56.600 --> 4:26:00.600 But congratulations on your selection to the day else cow Wis. 4:26:00.800 --> 4:26:03.840 You've got to be really excited about the opportunity, uh 4:26:04.120 --> 4:26:06.240 to come here and to and to play in a 4:26:06.400 --> 4:26:09.720 scheme that really fits the type of player you were 4:26:09.880 --> 4:26:13.680 at at Wyoming. Yeah, sir, Yeah, definitely. First of all, 4:26:13.720 --> 4:26:17.080 I appreciate it, thanks uh having me on. Uh Yeah, 4:26:17.880 --> 4:26:20.480 super excited. I think that's a great fit for me. 4:26:20.600 --> 4:26:24.320 Like you said, yeah, I can't wait to go to work. Mark, 4:26:24.360 --> 4:26:26.480 I gotta hit you with a hard hitting question here 4:26:26.600 --> 4:26:29.400 right off the bat. Does how does a guy from 4:26:29.440 --> 4:26:33.600 Germany wind up in Laramie, Wyoming. I'm curious? I see, 4:26:33.760 --> 4:26:36.800 UH started playing over in Germany. I only came over 4:26:36.920 --> 4:26:39.440 here four years ago. So I started playing call um 4:26:40.360 --> 4:26:43.640 football in America only four years ago. So um I 4:26:43.760 --> 4:26:46.760 got the connection going with a former teammate who also 4:26:47.120 --> 4:26:49.760 he was from Germany. He played at Wyoming through a 4:26:49.840 --> 4:26:52.680 former culture his and yeah, he got the connection going 4:26:52.720 --> 4:26:56.640 with the coaches for me. Showed him my tape and everything, 4:26:56.720 --> 4:26:59.000 and they really like what they saw. And yeah, I 4:26:59.080 --> 4:27:04.040 took that opportunity. And Mark, obviously it's tough to suffer 4:27:04.120 --> 4:27:07.200 an injury like you did your senior year. Talk about uh, 4:27:07.360 --> 4:27:10.800 you know, overcoming that obstacle and you know, doing enough 4:27:11.080 --> 4:27:15.120 during your your the pre draft process to convince teams 4:27:15.160 --> 4:27:18.520 that you know you're worth taking chance on. Um. You know, 4:27:18.920 --> 4:27:22.560 obviously it was a tough situation, you know, but I 4:27:22.640 --> 4:27:25.960 did have a like starting support system, you know, Karent 4:27:26.000 --> 4:27:27.760 taught me all, you know, as well as my girlfriend, 4:27:27.840 --> 4:27:29.880 you know, the team, you know, a team as well. 4:27:30.560 --> 4:27:34.680 So um, it was definitely, uh, very disappointed when it happened, 4:27:34.720 --> 4:27:37.480 but you know I do, like you know, with the 4:27:37.560 --> 4:27:41.080 help of them. Um, I fought through that adversity, you know, 4:27:41.280 --> 4:27:44.200 and you know came back, uh you know, fairly ahead 4:27:44.200 --> 4:27:46.480 of schedule, and you know, like you said, to do 4:27:46.680 --> 4:27:50.200 enough to get picked up at accomplice, Mark, you came. 4:27:50.400 --> 4:27:52.440 You're one of the visits that came to Doubt, So 4:27:52.520 --> 4:27:54.480 you got to come here and see the coaches and 4:27:54.560 --> 4:27:57.560 all that meat. Can you talk about the you know, 4:27:58.000 --> 4:28:01.040 the opportunity to sit down with Matt even Flus and 4:28:01.120 --> 4:28:03.480 then with Rod and Marnelli and all them, and and 4:28:04.000 --> 4:28:06.840 just some of the discussions that they had with you 4:28:07.000 --> 4:28:09.840 and how they see your role you know now that 4:28:09.920 --> 4:28:12.880 you're you're with the Dallas Cowboys. I mean the first 4:28:12.920 --> 4:28:15.000 of all, you know, Dallas is a great organization, you know, 4:28:15.720 --> 4:28:19.080 and so I had great conversation with like from Jerry Jones, 4:28:20.240 --> 4:28:22.800 um with as well as the other had coach the 4:28:22.840 --> 4:28:28.120 other coaches and coach uh right, definitely Uh told me 4:28:28.280 --> 4:28:31.040 that I'll hit that system great, you know after watching 4:28:31.160 --> 4:28:33.680 some FilmOn them, I believe I do. You know, they're 4:28:33.760 --> 4:28:37.040 very like speed oriented, you know, that's what I you know, 4:28:37.160 --> 4:28:39.800 mode my game after as well as you know, I 4:28:39.880 --> 4:28:42.480 talked to the SCUTCHI teams coordinated as well. Yeah, and 4:28:42.960 --> 4:28:45.400 uh that's definitely a big aspect of my game as well. 4:28:45.480 --> 4:28:49.160 You know. Just um that's definitely something I take Friday. 4:28:49.760 --> 4:28:52.200 So just from that that aspect, you know, off it's 4:28:52.280 --> 4:28:57.040 really rel Mark, just one more before we let you go. 4:28:57.280 --> 4:28:59.360 But I think we've I think we got to handle 4:28:59.440 --> 4:29:01.640 on it. But no better person to hear it from 4:29:01.920 --> 4:29:04.800 than you can. We get a pronunciation on your last name, 4:29:04.880 --> 4:29:10.600 just for for Cowboys fans to get your there we go, 4:29:10.760 --> 4:29:13.120 all right, you heard it straight from him, real good 4:29:14.120 --> 4:29:16.440 well type promise you, we'll do, We'll be, we'll be. 4:29:16.560 --> 4:29:19.120 We will spread the word for you here on Dallas 4:29:19.160 --> 4:29:21.480 Cowboys dot com. We'll spread the word for you on 4:29:21.600 --> 4:29:23.760 that on your last name, so everybody will have you, right. 4:29:23.920 --> 4:29:26.400 I promise you one thing about this city. You come 4:29:26.440 --> 4:29:28.120 in here and make a bunch of plays. They will 4:29:28.160 --> 4:29:30.640 they will learn your name very quickly, and then you 4:29:30.720 --> 4:29:33.000 will see your last name on the back of jerseys 4:29:33.200 --> 4:29:37.840 of the fans. How about that. Oh okay, thank you 4:29:37.960 --> 4:29:41.200 very much, Thanks, thank you, Mark, appreciate you all right. 4:29:41.320 --> 4:29:45.560 Mark Zacha from the from Ursia, Wyoming. He is the 4:29:46.600 --> 4:29:50.040 Zacha from the from the I told you, I'll eventually, 4:29:50.080 --> 4:29:52.320 I'll learn it one day, work on it. I got you. 4:29:52.400 --> 4:29:55.520 We work on okay. So it was very nice to 4:29:55.560 --> 4:29:58.160 hear him. He talked about special team stuff. I think 4:29:58.240 --> 4:30:00.640 that's what you have to look at him his as well. 4:30:01.200 --> 4:30:04.000 Uh and for him uh to come here and be 4:30:04.120 --> 4:30:07.800 a part of what they're doing here with the Dallas Skyway. 4:30:07.880 --> 4:30:10.800 So uh, let's see here we're looking once again in 4:30:10.800 --> 4:30:13.600 the war room. Uh, the I just want to point 4:30:13.640 --> 4:30:18.160 out a pick, uh two forty one. The talk about names, Dane, 4:30:18.200 --> 4:30:22.760 you're great at names. Our lad from uh Oregon was 4:30:22.800 --> 4:30:26.680 selected here at the cornerback. Yes he was good for 4:30:26.760 --> 4:30:29.800 him by the Arizona, by the by the Arizona for heaving. 4:30:30.120 --> 4:30:32.840 Actually he was selected by the Cleveland Browns. My bad. 4:30:32.960 --> 4:30:35.800 Oh wow, great, that's I mean, we talk about how 4:30:35.920 --> 4:30:40.120 heartbreaking is for some of these players. Um, for Efo Ariola, 4:30:40.400 --> 4:30:42.400 that's great that he's uh, he's able to be a 4:30:42.520 --> 4:30:44.200 draft pick, someone that would have been a first round 4:30:44.240 --> 4:30:46.920 pick most likely if not for the ACL injury, the 4:30:47.000 --> 4:30:49.600 knee issue that he's suffered before the Rose Bowl. Um, 4:30:50.200 --> 4:30:52.960 you see him has the cover technique that you want, 4:30:53.040 --> 4:30:55.800 the fluidity. Uh, he can fit as a nickel complained 4:30:55.920 --> 4:30:57.880 on the outside. You think he might even be able 4:30:57.880 --> 4:30:59.600 to play some safety. And so the big thing for 4:30:59.720 --> 4:31:03.240 him now is coming back from that injury working back 4:31:03.280 --> 4:31:06.520 onto the field. Probably takes a redshirt season this year 4:31:06.800 --> 4:31:09.000 as a as a rookie in the NFL. But in 4:31:09.080 --> 4:31:11.440 the seventh round, why not take him. See if you 4:31:11.480 --> 4:31:13.560 can develop him, see if you can get that knee right, 4:31:13.840 --> 4:31:15.920 and see if it pays off for the Cleveland Browns. Okay, 4:31:16.040 --> 4:31:19.320 the pick is that, Well, it looks like to me 4:31:19.480 --> 4:31:22.400 that the Cowboys are on the clock right now at 4:31:22.440 --> 4:31:26.760 two forty three, So let's in fact and see what's 4:31:26.800 --> 4:31:29.480 going on. The picks that happened ahead of them would 4:31:29.480 --> 4:31:36.480 be the Oakland Raiders taking Dexter McDonald, the defensive back 4:31:36.600 --> 4:31:39.280 from Kansas, and then that would now mean that the 4:31:39.400 --> 4:31:43.200 Dallas Cowboys are in fact on the clock. That pick 4:31:43.400 --> 4:31:48.600 from the Raiders was actually made from Carolina, so they 4:31:48.640 --> 4:31:50.640 are on the clock. It will see how that all 4:31:51.160 --> 4:31:55.480 plays out. But it looks like to me we're very 4:31:55.600 --> 4:31:59.560 much into the Cowboys trying to slick guys with some traits. 4:32:00.240 --> 4:32:03.280 You know, could they go uh offensive lineman here. I 4:32:03.280 --> 4:32:07.200 mean we've talked about We've talked about receivers, We've talked 4:32:07.200 --> 4:32:08.840 about a lot of it. I mean, he's I think 4:32:08.880 --> 4:32:11.320 the offensive linemen are the hardest to find. I think 4:32:11.440 --> 4:32:14.800 that's the hardest group to to try. And do you 4:32:14.840 --> 4:32:16.880 know when you started talking about battling and free agency, 4:32:17.080 --> 4:32:19.400 I think somebody brought that up, you know, I think 4:32:19.520 --> 4:32:22.120 that one of us was talking about do you want 4:32:22.120 --> 4:32:25.200 to you want to battle somebody else? In free agency 4:32:25.880 --> 4:32:29.120 for an offensive lineman, and you know, may I don't 4:32:29.160 --> 4:32:32.720 know receiver, offensive line. We talked about linebacker, We talked 4:32:32.760 --> 4:32:35.520 about running back. You know who would that be? Is 4:32:35.560 --> 4:32:39.080 there anybody that you particularly like that's left at any 4:32:39.080 --> 4:32:43.240 of these positions? I talked about Shed. Uh, you know, 4:32:44.040 --> 4:32:45.920 Gibson was a guy that I mean. I mean, I'm 4:32:45.920 --> 4:32:48.880 looking at my board right now, Guys, I've evaluated rawls, 4:32:49.000 --> 4:32:54.560 Shed Gibson. Whitehead speaking of Gibson, Oh he just okay, Hey, 4:32:54.640 --> 4:32:58.480 our seventh rone mock Gibson had We had that in 4:32:58.520 --> 4:33:00.840 our seventh round. Mack, there we go. I was set 4:33:00.920 --> 4:33:02.920 on it being farmer because I wanted to be right. 4:33:03.040 --> 4:33:04.560 Oh well, there we go. I didn't. I just was 4:33:04.680 --> 4:33:08.160 naming off names and all of a sudden, he goes up. Gibson, 4:33:08.440 --> 4:33:13.960 a offensive tackle from Virginia Tech, is the seventh round 4:33:14.000 --> 4:33:17.840 selection at pick two forty three value here in the 4:33:17.880 --> 4:33:21.560 seventh absolutely only started nineteen games over his career, but 4:33:22.560 --> 4:33:25.480 a player that you think his best football's ahead of him. 4:33:25.480 --> 4:33:28.240 He's gonna get better and better. H You see the coordination, 4:33:28.919 --> 4:33:31.520 You see his ability as both a pass protector and 4:33:31.720 --> 4:33:34.200 as a run blocker. He does a nice job with angles. 4:33:34.240 --> 4:33:38.640 He has range, and I think it's where where he 4:33:38.720 --> 4:33:41.960 got his opportunity. That's when he stepped up as a senior, 4:33:42.080 --> 4:33:44.320 got a chance to be the starting left tackle, started 4:33:44.360 --> 4:33:47.080 all thirteen games. Now, I think he does need time, 4:33:47.440 --> 4:33:50.239 he needs to work on his fundamentals, the functional power. 4:33:50.960 --> 4:33:53.680 But to me, I graded him as a practice squad 4:33:53.759 --> 4:33:56.919 candidate who you know, has some upside. I think he's 4:33:57.080 --> 4:33:58.760 probably a little a little bit more than that. He 4:33:58.800 --> 4:34:00.600 has a twenty four year old he's a little bit 4:34:00.600 --> 4:34:03.440 older than you want. But Lawrence Gibson nonetheless a good 4:34:03.480 --> 4:34:07.600 pick here. Can he play guard? Maybe? Maybe you know 4:34:07.680 --> 4:34:09.440 it's tough when you haven't seen him play. I'm not 4:34:09.440 --> 4:34:10.800 sure if they worked him out of guard or not. 4:34:11.000 --> 4:34:14.600 But only play tackle in college right tackle as a junior, 4:34:15.040 --> 4:34:17.920 left tackle as a senior. So he does a nice job. 4:34:19.200 --> 4:34:23.240 Again the coordination, Yeah, shuffle square, I mean, so you know, 4:34:23.520 --> 4:34:26.080 I think he could possibly do that. Yeah. I said 4:34:26.120 --> 4:34:27.680 this though, Dan and I totally agree with that. I 4:34:27.759 --> 4:34:30.080 said the position to stay in from his man. But 4:34:30.160 --> 4:34:32.440 I thought he lacked some upper body power, you know, 4:34:32.600 --> 4:34:35.000 and that's you know, and then function. But he can 4:34:35.080 --> 4:34:37.280 hold the whole guys in place. I think he had 4:34:37.280 --> 4:34:39.880 a little over extended at time. Very good with switch technique, 4:34:39.919 --> 4:34:42.560 stuff like that. He was aware the feet to get outside, 4:34:42.640 --> 4:34:45.600 initial quickness, you know, reach hook. Those are the things 4:34:45.680 --> 4:34:48.160 he can do. Can pull, get to the outside, come 4:34:48.240 --> 4:34:50.360 off the ball with some pop, stays with the blocks 4:34:50.440 --> 4:34:53.320 the outside, works to finish, you know, these are all trades. 4:34:53.400 --> 4:34:56.759 I saw that him going forward. I think that they 4:34:56.800 --> 4:34:59.120 said we'll get a little trouble in his set when 4:34:59.160 --> 4:35:01.919 his feet get too wide, and then that's what becomes 4:35:02.120 --> 4:35:03.800 a little bit over exten He has to be careful 4:35:03.840 --> 4:35:05.400 not to allow the man to get to his chest, 4:35:06.040 --> 4:35:08.560 but could quickly adjust on the move, nice slattle quickness. 4:35:08.800 --> 4:35:11.840 Wouldn't say he has great body control, but you don't 4:35:11.880 --> 4:35:13.800 see him on the ground. So and that would be 4:35:13.880 --> 4:35:18.840 Laurence Gibson's six six three h five five six six Yeah, 4:35:19.040 --> 4:35:21.680 well even more impressive over thirty five in charms too. Yeah, 4:35:21.960 --> 4:35:25.120 he can yeah, get get that extension and think what 4:35:25.160 --> 4:35:27.120 you're talking about with the past sets. You did see 4:35:27.200 --> 4:35:28.800 that with his eyes. I think I thought his eyes 4:35:28.840 --> 4:35:30.480 were all over the place at times. He needs to 4:35:30.840 --> 4:35:33.760 know learn some discipline there. But his first three seasons 4:35:33.800 --> 4:35:36.960 in Virginia Tech only twenty seven offensive snaps. So we're 4:35:37.000 --> 4:35:39.640 talking about a late bloomer. Played half the year last 4:35:39.720 --> 4:35:41.440 year as a junior, and then it was a starting 4:35:41.520 --> 4:35:43.800 left tackle as a senior. So a late bloomer didn't 4:35:43.800 --> 4:35:46.680 see a ton of time, only twenty seven combined snaps 4:35:46.759 --> 4:35:49.919 his first three seasons. But when he did find the field, 4:35:50.560 --> 4:35:52.760 he showed it some impressive flashes. You know, if we 4:35:52.840 --> 4:35:56.920 watched his highlight tape, you can put together some impressive plays. Yeah, 4:35:57.280 --> 4:36:01.400 and again I said it earlier about you know, you 4:36:01.480 --> 4:36:05.480 don't want to you don't want to find ways to uh, 4:36:05.840 --> 4:36:08.640 you know, guys like see you're looking at the trades. 4:36:08.800 --> 4:36:10.800 Stephen Jones is on the phone now, and and and 4:36:10.840 --> 4:36:13.120 the only reason I bring this up is I wonder 4:36:13.120 --> 4:36:15.440 if they're trying to get back into this round. I 4:36:15.560 --> 4:36:18.000 wonder if they're trying to flip a next year's, say, 4:36:18.160 --> 4:36:21.480 sixth round pick. Maybe they're just ordering some pizza, because well, 4:36:21.480 --> 4:36:23.919 they're looking. They're looking right now. Steven's looking back at 4:36:24.000 --> 4:36:27.600 the board and Todd Williams is standing to his left. Uh, 4:36:27.800 --> 4:36:29.680 they're trying to figure out a way. There is somebody 4:36:29.759 --> 4:36:32.280 they have in mind on that board that they would 4:36:32.360 --> 4:36:35.760 like to try and get. Uh. Frank Pollock steps in 4:36:36.720 --> 4:36:39.920 thanking Jason Garrett for Hey, I'll coach that kid up. 4:36:39.960 --> 4:36:42.719 He's got two ready. Let's look at preseason games. Talk 4:36:42.759 --> 4:36:46.000 about that, you got Green and then you've also know 4:36:46.120 --> 4:36:49.280 I mean, you know in Green and then also Gibson. 4:36:49.680 --> 4:36:51.240 You know, two guys that you'll see a lot in 4:36:51.240 --> 4:36:53.720 the preseason games in the second half. You know, those 4:36:53.800 --> 4:36:55.640 young guys. You can't have enough of those young guys 4:36:55.720 --> 4:36:58.240 you want to develop right there. So he's an older 4:36:58.320 --> 4:37:00.640 guy because he did go to Hardgrave Mill Terry Academy 4:37:00.640 --> 4:37:02.960 out of high school. That he went to Virginia Tech 4:37:03.040 --> 4:37:05.600 red shirt his first year, didn't see the field as 4:37:05.640 --> 4:37:08.880 a freshman or sophomore except just a few snaps, and 4:37:09.080 --> 4:37:11.480 then a junior year part time player, and then as 4:37:11.560 --> 4:37:13.680 senior full time starter at left tackle. Can I share 4:37:13.759 --> 4:37:18.640 my fun stat with y'all? Sure? Since drafting Mark Nizacha 4:37:19.520 --> 4:37:25.000 uh in Zacha Nizacha doesn't matter Inza, Cowboys have in 4:37:25.080 --> 4:37:28.200 addition to it out irritat. In addition to however many Americans, 4:37:28.320 --> 4:37:32.359 the Cowboys now have a German, a British Dutch international, 4:37:32.640 --> 4:37:37.120 and a Canadian talking three three foreign nationalities on the roster, 4:37:37.560 --> 4:37:42.320 a international team, not just Americans, world team world. McBride 4:37:42.360 --> 4:37:44.320 just came off the board of the Titans. Yeah, good 4:37:44.360 --> 4:37:48.480 to see that. Yeah. So the let's see the two Canadians. 4:37:48.560 --> 4:37:51.480 I forgot about LP Latiser, LP Lattiser. Did someone just 4:37:51.560 --> 4:37:53.280 make a mention to that as you as you did 4:37:53.360 --> 4:37:57.240 that wrongly? Okay, we look at the the let's see 4:37:57.360 --> 4:38:00.880 here this, Uh, the Colts had a pick at two 4:38:01.160 --> 4:38:04.680 forty four after Dallas pick, but that then they sent 4:38:04.759 --> 4:38:08.000 that pick to San Francisco. Uh, so that would be 4:38:08.400 --> 4:38:14.480 Trenton Brown, would be uh, the tackle from Florida would 4:38:14.520 --> 4:38:19.640 be that selection. And then after that you said the 4:38:19.840 --> 4:38:25.640 Tennessee Titans. Uh it took uh William and Mary's Trey McBride. 4:38:26.840 --> 4:38:30.640 So that's where we are right now with the with 4:38:30.759 --> 4:38:34.000 the draft, as we're winding down, getting into the level 4:38:34.080 --> 4:38:37.759 where you have compensatory picks, and those compensatory picks can't 4:38:37.759 --> 4:38:41.000 be traded. So what you're talking about is like Stephen Jones, 4:38:41.080 --> 4:38:43.520 Jerry Jones, guys like that, if they're diving on the 4:38:43.600 --> 4:38:45.400 phone right now to try and make something happen, they're 4:38:45.480 --> 4:38:48.280 running out of picks. In fact, to make that to 4:38:48.640 --> 4:38:51.760 get that done. Like, I'm sorry, I'm not to trivialize 4:38:51.840 --> 4:38:53.879 the hard work of running a draft board, but when 4:38:53.919 --> 4:38:55.560 you're this close to the end of the draft, is 4:38:55.600 --> 4:38:58.040 it really worth giving something up if there's a player 4:38:58.080 --> 4:39:00.320 you don't want to fight for in free agency? Yes, 4:39:00.800 --> 4:39:02.920 yes it is if you're better off draft of the 4:39:03.000 --> 4:39:06.960 guy next year six. Yeah, I know, well you just 4:39:07.080 --> 4:39:09.480 get You gave next year six to get Rolando McClain, 4:39:09.560 --> 4:39:12.120 which Lando mcclin was a top ten talent. There might 4:39:12.200 --> 4:39:15.160 be had a drastic, drastic knee. There might be a 4:39:15.200 --> 4:39:17.160 guy that they like. They might if you didn't like 4:39:17.240 --> 4:39:20.160 him enough to take him at two forty three, two 4:39:20.360 --> 4:39:25.480 hundred and forty three. Dallas is on the clock. As 4:39:25.480 --> 4:39:27.360 soon as I'll say it. Dallas is on the clock 4:39:27.440 --> 4:39:30.360 now here at two forty six. And let's see, they 4:39:30.440 --> 4:39:33.960 might have somebody in mind that the pick is in. Uh, 4:39:34.080 --> 4:39:36.560 let's see who in fact this might be. They must 4:39:36.600 --> 4:39:39.880 have gave up something on their board for for next 4:39:40.000 --> 4:39:43.840 year to get this done. Let's see if the when 4:39:43.880 --> 4:39:48.840 the name comes up, I'm waiting. Cowboys have traded Zach 4:39:48.919 --> 4:39:52.240 martin Cleveland in exchange for a seventh round pick. Could 4:39:52.280 --> 4:39:57.000 this be maybe Lucky Whitehead? Could this be uh that receiver? 4:39:58.200 --> 4:40:01.680 I mean that it could be Jeff Swamp the University 4:40:01.680 --> 4:40:06.919 of Texas. Wow, you know Jeff Swamp. I know he's 4:40:06.960 --> 4:40:12.040 a tight end. I was overly impressed, but hey, Jeff 4:40:12.080 --> 4:40:14.720 Swamp apparently see something in him. I can honestly say 4:40:14.800 --> 4:40:18.040 Jeff Swamp is not a guy that I have evaluated myself. 4:40:18.160 --> 4:40:21.919 So Dallas evidently gave up a pick in next year's 4:40:22.000 --> 4:40:26.680 draft for the opportunity to grab Jeff Swam at W 4:40:28.080 --> 4:40:32.360 S W A. I M. Whatever you say, guys, Jeff Swam, 4:40:32.640 --> 4:40:35.800 whatever you say, did you hear my notes on Jeff Swamp? Okay, 4:40:36.280 --> 4:40:41.000 inline backfield and there now and that would be they're 4:40:41.000 --> 4:40:44.560 officially out of business now now that ends the fight? Yeah, yeah, 4:40:44.720 --> 4:40:49.520 finish the fight. Athletic body control, Uh can make acrobat catches. 4:40:50.000 --> 4:40:52.040 He had a nice catch against West Virginia when the 4:40:52.120 --> 4:40:54.199 back of the end zone attacks it with his hands, 4:40:54.440 --> 4:40:57.840 kept his feet in bounds. Needs to work on his 4:40:58.240 --> 4:41:00.560 doing a better job blocking in space, a little too 4:41:00.600 --> 4:41:03.800 methodical and needs to just smash U. So it sounds 4:41:03.800 --> 4:41:08.600 like with with Swam a better uh better receiver than 4:41:08.680 --> 4:41:11.280 blocker at this point. But apparently they saw enough in 4:41:11.360 --> 4:41:13.919 him to go and get them. Yeah, they sure did. Well, 4:41:13.960 --> 4:41:16.680 what were the meashables you had on him, Dane, let 4:41:16.720 --> 4:41:18.800 me look that up. Okay, And while you do that, 4:41:19.280 --> 4:41:22.680 we the draft was but that was picked two forty six. 4:41:22.800 --> 4:41:27.000 That was a pick San Francisco from Indianapolis. So Dallas, oh, 4:41:27.200 --> 4:41:32.160 San Francisco. Something in next year's is not more than 4:41:32.200 --> 4:41:34.640 the seventh round pick. Although, and this is an easy 4:41:34.720 --> 4:41:37.879 pick to crack a joke about, you know, tight end, 4:41:38.000 --> 4:41:39.400 What are you doing with the tight end? They always 4:41:39.440 --> 4:41:41.759 draft tight end sixty four out and a half six 4:41:41.880 --> 4:41:44.160 four six four three okay, a six four and a 4:41:44.200 --> 4:41:48.320 half fifty two okay, four seven one forty yard dash okay, 4:41:49.200 --> 4:41:51.440 thirty five and thirty five and a half inch for 4:41:52.080 --> 4:41:55.520 ten to four broad, four five eight twenty yards shuttle 4:41:55.560 --> 4:41:57.960 and a seven two eight three cone. Okay. That was all. 4:41:58.040 --> 4:42:01.440 The Pro day was not a combine invite. Yeah, number 4:42:01.520 --> 4:42:06.760 eighty two for the longhornsh No. But what I was 4:42:06.800 --> 4:42:10.480 gonna say is it. I mean, tight end is like 4:42:10.560 --> 4:42:13.600 a bug a boo position for Cowboys fans because of 4:42:13.680 --> 4:42:16.040 how poorly it has worked out in previous drafts. But 4:42:17.200 --> 4:42:18.800 you know, James Hannah is about going to be a 4:42:18.840 --> 4:42:20.520 free agent at this time next year, he might not 4:42:20.600 --> 4:42:22.840 be on this team. And he's one of those guys 4:42:22.880 --> 4:42:25.440 we talked about earlier. His value does not show up 4:42:25.480 --> 4:42:28.759 on the stat sheet, So this makes sense and obvious. 4:42:28.800 --> 4:42:31.480 You know, Gavin Escobar, whatever he brings to the table, 4:42:32.000 --> 4:42:34.640 it's certainly not as a blocking tight end, the guy 4:42:34.680 --> 4:42:36.080 who can help you in the run game and in 4:42:36.160 --> 4:42:38.520 special teams and all that type of stuff. So it 4:42:38.720 --> 4:42:41.320 is it is a pick that that you can certainly 4:42:41.400 --> 4:42:45.120 justify in terms of looking ahead. Of course, he's got 4:42:45.240 --> 4:42:48.120 a In two years at Texas, he had thirteen catches, 4:42:48.919 --> 4:42:52.360 so and that's why you know a lot of people 4:42:52.400 --> 4:42:54.360 are a little surprised by this because he didn't see 4:42:54.440 --> 4:42:56.800 him a lot and it doesn't have the production he 4:42:56.880 --> 4:43:00.360 actually she started twenty two games, had thirteen catches, so 4:43:00.520 --> 4:43:02.480 eight more starts than he had catches in his career 4:43:03.160 --> 4:43:05.680 to only two years. Was a juco transfer for this team. 4:43:05.759 --> 4:43:07.960 As long as Jason Witten's here, I'm not looking for 4:43:08.080 --> 4:43:10.600 anybody else to be a pass catching tight end. I mean, 4:43:10.680 --> 4:43:14.440 James Hannah probably had Escobar. Is he doing it a lot. Well, no, 4:43:14.560 --> 4:43:16.600 I mean, I mean he's a young guy. No, I 4:43:16.960 --> 4:43:19.400 still have hope that Escobar can become something more. But 4:43:19.520 --> 4:43:21.960 I mean what it was his final tally last year 4:43:22.040 --> 4:43:24.760 was like one hundred and fifty yards, sixty five of 4:43:24.800 --> 4:43:27.280 those coming in one game against the Giants. It's funny, though, 4:43:27.320 --> 4:43:28.880 he's one of those guys. So if you always look 4:43:28.880 --> 4:43:31.200 at his catches have always been big catches. He's a 4:43:31.280 --> 4:43:35.120 great red zone target. Yeah. Honestly, much like Lance Dunbar, 4:43:35.280 --> 4:43:39.160 I put Gavin Escobar's lack of showing up more on 4:43:39.280 --> 4:43:42.200 the coaching staff than on him. Yeah, I don't think 4:43:42.240 --> 4:43:45.040 he's really getting the opportunity to. I mean, we saw 4:43:45.120 --> 4:43:47.239 what you could do against the Giants. Three catches, sixty 4:43:47.320 --> 4:43:50.360 five yards, two touchdowns. He told them. It's interesting, any 4:43:50.480 --> 4:43:52.440 I mean, this isn't about Gavin Escobar though, but I 4:43:52.560 --> 4:43:56.919 do think, you know, Jane, whatever becomes of James Hannah, 4:43:56.919 --> 4:43:58.760 I won't be surprised if he moves on, maybe to 4:43:58.800 --> 4:44:01.200 find a better opportunity because somebody's willing to give them 4:44:01.200 --> 4:44:03.800 more money. Um. So this is this is something to 4:44:03.840 --> 4:44:05.600 think about. This is a pick for the future and 4:44:06.040 --> 4:44:09.160 training camp and keeping your guys fresh and it's into 4:44:09.320 --> 4:44:12.480 that good blocking stuff. It's interesting because these two you 4:44:12.600 --> 4:44:18.080 talk about, and Zacha and Swam two players that tested 4:44:18.160 --> 4:44:21.040 really well. Yeah, the production's not there, there's not a lot, 4:44:21.520 --> 4:44:24.560 you know, a ton of tape um, you know, but 4:44:24.680 --> 4:44:26.840 they tested really well. And so I think that's that's 4:44:26.840 --> 4:44:29.560 an interesting thing we're seeing here late cowboys opting for 4:44:29.759 --> 4:44:32.520 guys that that you know, tested well. The numbers look good, 4:44:33.840 --> 4:44:36.160 and that's why you drafted them over what they showed 4:44:36.240 --> 4:44:41.600 on tape. Yeah, so we're now into Atlanta will have 4:44:41.880 --> 4:44:45.960 the last pick that can be traded, and then it 4:44:46.120 --> 4:44:50.280 becomes the compensatory phase where the Dallas Cowboys hope next 4:44:50.400 --> 4:44:54.919 year will have maybe some compensatory picks, you know, probably 4:44:54.960 --> 4:44:58.480 a seventh round or two, but hopefully more third, fourth 4:44:58.560 --> 4:45:01.000 round variety. Maybe that's why you make it trade, knowing 4:45:01.040 --> 4:45:03.239 that they've got some compensatory picks. If they give up 4:45:03.240 --> 4:45:05.760 a six round pick next year, maybe that's something that 4:45:05.840 --> 4:45:07.960 they're thinking about in the future. I mean, at the 4:45:08.080 --> 4:45:10.040 end of the it's not something worth getting been out 4:45:10.040 --> 4:45:12.879 of shape four, but it's certainly just you know, when 4:45:12.919 --> 4:45:16.600 you consider I mean, where was that pick that pick 4:45:16.720 --> 4:45:23.240 came in that pick was at two forty six, two four, one, two, three, four, 4:45:23.680 --> 4:45:27.320 five six, ten picks away from the end of the 4:45:27.520 --> 4:45:29.560 entire draft. Right, it seems a little silly that you 4:45:29.680 --> 4:45:32.240 have to make a trade to get that guy. But 4:45:32.680 --> 4:45:35.880 maybe they don't want to battle, and that's fine, that's fine. 4:45:36.000 --> 4:45:37.560 They get paid a lot more money than I do, 4:45:37.680 --> 4:45:39.360 to know a lot more than I do, so I'm 4:45:39.400 --> 4:45:43.680 gonna trust their judgment. But on the outside it it doesn't. 4:45:44.000 --> 4:45:46.160 It seems a little silly to me. But that's okay. Well, 4:45:46.200 --> 4:45:48.480 you just again, you don't want to fight, I know you. 4:45:48.640 --> 4:45:50.400 I mean, they might have it. They you know, they 4:45:50.480 --> 4:45:52.320 might have a deal where you know, they were in 4:45:52.400 --> 4:45:54.560 ten of getting this guy in free agency, and then 4:45:54.600 --> 4:45:56.800 all of a sudden it became, well, hey, how many 4:45:56.880 --> 4:45:58.719 how many teams are calling yet? Would it be I've 4:45:58.759 --> 4:46:01.240 talked to the Jets, talk to the Buccaneers, have talked 4:46:01.240 --> 4:46:02.960 to the Rams, and all of a sudden, You're like, 4:46:03.000 --> 4:46:05.079 wait a minute, this guy's talking to one hundred teams. 4:46:05.200 --> 4:46:07.879 If he's a blocking tight end and he went to Texas, 4:46:08.400 --> 4:46:10.919 shouldn't be that hard for a power run team from 4:46:11.040 --> 4:46:12.920 Dallas to get him to come up the road. No, 4:46:13.120 --> 4:46:15.840 you'd be surprised. Yeah, I know you'd be surprised. Rather, 4:46:16.040 --> 4:46:18.360 that's I keep I keep saying that to Seattle or 4:46:19.440 --> 4:46:21.280 but you also look at the situation. I mean, you 4:46:21.360 --> 4:46:23.960 gotta sell it too, you gotta say, just did sell it. 4:46:24.000 --> 4:46:25.399 It's right up the road, and they like to run 4:46:25.440 --> 4:46:29.399 the ball. NFC East approval rating right now, what's up 4:46:29.440 --> 4:46:32.360 Cowboys seventy seven percent approval rate? Oh well, the Giants 4:46:32.440 --> 4:46:35.120 are higher. But yeah, that's okay. But the giants get them. 4:46:35.160 --> 4:46:38.400 They're so high on flowers, flowers and um, they got 4:46:38.520 --> 4:46:41.840 oh diggy diggy, DIGGI diggy o digg oh diggie, you're 4:46:41.840 --> 4:46:44.640 so fine. No, it's the Vikings. And then just looking 4:46:44.680 --> 4:46:48.680 at the highest in the NFC. Uh in the Vikings 4:46:48.759 --> 4:46:52.640 at Trey Wayne. They're one of my quote unquote winners. 4:46:53.000 --> 4:46:54.600 Who else did they get? They got Dane him. You're 4:46:54.600 --> 4:46:56.240 getting the losers, right, I mean to what you would 4:46:56.240 --> 4:46:58.640 call the Saints and Saints and the Panthers, the two 4:46:58.640 --> 4:47:01.680 of my quote unquote losers and the other two looking 4:47:01.759 --> 4:47:06.919 like San Francisco and Saint Louis. So it's I love 4:47:07.000 --> 4:47:10.120 the instant reaction though, like we don't know nobody knows. Oh, 4:47:10.600 --> 4:47:12.600 I told you my story. I've told you one hundred times. 4:47:12.600 --> 4:47:14.560 You have. You've told me all your stories on hundred times, 4:47:14.680 --> 4:47:16.440 and you love every one of them. I love a 4:47:16.480 --> 4:47:18.960 few of them. You told me one. What's your favorite story? 4:47:19.000 --> 4:47:23.160 I tell you? Oh, God, I don't know. Is it clean? One? Uh? 4:47:26.880 --> 4:47:29.160 I'm trying to think. What's my favorite? My favorite the 4:47:29.240 --> 4:47:32.880 one about Stephen lunging across the table. WI. Yeah, it's 4:47:32.880 --> 4:47:35.200 pretty good. That was during the draft. The Peter King's 4:47:35.240 --> 4:47:38.360 story is pretty damn funny. Peter King. Peter King fell 4:47:38.400 --> 4:47:41.320 asleep and the I'll tell the story real quick. Peter King, 4:47:41.440 --> 4:47:44.000 he comes in, he's scouting us, he's checking out what 4:47:44.040 --> 4:47:45.840 it's like being a scout. So he's sitting in the 4:47:45.919 --> 4:47:48.360 draft room. Will we have really a nice place that 4:47:48.440 --> 4:47:51.680 serves great food here named Eddie Dean And I hope 4:47:51.680 --> 4:47:53.800 I'm not get in trouble for saying that, But Eddie 4:47:53.840 --> 4:47:57.000 Dean they bring this this big feast, and so Peter 4:47:57.200 --> 4:47:59.480 loads up on the the food. He comes in the 4:47:59.560 --> 4:48:03.039 draft room and immediately falls asleep. Like the lights are 4:48:03.080 --> 4:48:04.960 off and the cape is running and all that. And 4:48:05.400 --> 4:48:08.240 we're sitting there evaluating and and everybody knows that Peter's asleep, 4:48:08.360 --> 4:48:12.240 and so Jerry Jones, h lights come on and Peter, 4:48:12.840 --> 4:48:14.960 Jerry goes, Peter, what do you think about that player? 4:48:16.200 --> 4:48:18.400 He goes Jerry. I I can't tell anything about the player, 4:48:18.440 --> 4:48:21.000 but you got a damn good lunch here. So that's 4:48:21.120 --> 4:48:22.880 my Peter King's story for the day. But yeah, Peter 4:48:23.040 --> 4:48:25.040 was a lot of a lot of things that go 4:48:25.160 --> 4:48:28.720 on in the good old my story. I'm old, I'm old, 4:48:28.800 --> 4:48:31.240 You've got you've got a few that are worth hearing 4:48:31.320 --> 4:48:34.160 over and over again. I appreciate that's very kind of you. Uh, 4:48:34.640 --> 4:48:36.640 as we close this thing out or getting you know, 4:48:36.680 --> 4:48:40.200 we're out the compensatory phases of are we gonna get 4:48:40.280 --> 4:48:43.640 Lawrence Gibson on the flat about five minutes as well? Yeah, 4:48:43.720 --> 4:48:45.800 so as soon as kid's gonna cue me up on that. 4:48:45.919 --> 4:48:48.120 But you know, we talk about the next three picks 4:48:48.200 --> 4:48:51.120 or Denver, Denver, Denver. So they're lining them all up. 4:48:51.160 --> 4:48:53.960 Hope they make them all at once, come on, Denver. 4:48:54.520 --> 4:48:58.240 But uh, just impressions of you know, and we're we're 4:48:58.320 --> 4:49:00.480 a Dallas cowboy. I just want to put it, put 4:49:00.520 --> 4:49:02.960 a little bit of a bow on this and maybe 4:49:02.960 --> 4:49:04.320 I should do this at the end when we get 4:49:04.400 --> 4:49:07.440 done completely with the draft, but just what we've experienced 4:49:07.480 --> 4:49:09.960 in the draft shows, and then going through all the 4:49:10.120 --> 4:49:12.880 things and and then at the end with the Cowboys 4:49:12.919 --> 4:49:15.000 and stuff like that, and what they've done in the 4:49:15.080 --> 4:49:18.040 last three days. It's kind of ironic because they just 4:49:18.200 --> 4:49:20.280 traded up. They gave away a sixth round pick to 4:49:20.360 --> 4:49:22.640 get up and get it. They gave up something. Yeah, 4:49:22.759 --> 4:49:24.560 I think I read that it was a six Maybe 4:49:24.560 --> 4:49:26.360 it's not. Okay, they gave up something to go up 4:49:26.360 --> 4:49:28.840 and get this guy. Yeah, which is kind of ironic 4:49:29.040 --> 4:49:32.440 because I think the story of this draft has just 4:49:32.680 --> 4:49:36.919 been uh, is this Malcolm Brown? No, No, this is uh, 4:49:37.200 --> 4:49:39.080 this is the tech the Texas tied end. This is 4:49:39.240 --> 4:49:42.200 who Okay, Yeah, okay, there you go. They're gonna flip 4:49:42.280 --> 4:49:44.680 him doing bad radio here when we're talking about one 4:49:44.720 --> 4:49:48.000 of his thirteen catches. That's all right, looks athletic. I 4:49:48.080 --> 4:49:49.880 need to I need to sit down. And he's gonna 4:49:49.919 --> 4:49:52.280 need a new number. Yeah, he's wearing eighty two in 4:49:52.360 --> 4:49:53.960 this film. For those of you who aren't watching, that 4:49:54.240 --> 4:49:58.120 was the touchdown I was talking about it against West Virginia. Yeah, 4:49:58.240 --> 4:50:00.280 back of the end zone. It's it's funny is they 4:50:00.320 --> 4:50:02.840 traded up to get him, and which I mean, it's 4:50:02.840 --> 4:50:05.000 not a backbreaking trade. But the story of this draft 4:50:05.040 --> 4:50:07.840 has been just sitting put and letting you know the 4:50:08.000 --> 4:50:10.320 pryers come to you. I mean, we sweated through to 4:50:10.400 --> 4:50:12.759 twenty seven and got a great guy, and Byron Jones, 4:50:12.800 --> 4:50:15.640 they sweated through all the way to sixty and got 4:50:15.800 --> 4:50:18.920 one of the most intriguing talents in the entire draft. 4:50:19.000 --> 4:50:22.200 And Gregory, you play it cool. You don't reach for 4:50:22.240 --> 4:50:24.160 a running back or grab a running back or anything 4:50:24.200 --> 4:50:26.600 like that. And I mean, you know, the early report 4:50:26.680 --> 4:50:28.720 on Chaz Green is that he can be the swing 4:50:28.800 --> 4:50:32.120 tackle right away or maybe even play right tackle if 4:50:32.200 --> 4:50:34.680 something happens to Doug Free, which is I mean, that's 4:50:34.680 --> 4:50:36.600 what you want in a third round pick, is preferably 4:50:36.600 --> 4:50:39.239 a guy who you can plug right in. So I mean, 4:50:40.720 --> 4:50:44.880 I think all spring we talked about how late these 4:50:44.960 --> 4:50:46.600 picks were, you know, and how hard it was going 4:50:46.680 --> 4:50:48.160 to be to get the guys you wanted at the 4:50:48.280 --> 4:50:50.960 end of the round. But they certainly seem to make 4:50:51.000 --> 4:50:54.080 it work all the way through. Wouldn't you say, Yeah, 4:50:54.160 --> 4:50:56.680 I think the Dane go ahead. I'm gonna go ahead 4:50:56.720 --> 4:50:59.640 with your your thoughts on this well from the Cowboys, 4:51:00.000 --> 4:51:01.280 think what we're gonna hear the most about is the 4:51:01.360 --> 4:51:03.879 running back you know obviously, and that's I was going 4:51:03.919 --> 4:51:06.200 to get to that too. Every every every pick came 4:51:06.240 --> 4:51:08.200 and went no running back. And I think that's going 4:51:08.320 --> 4:51:10.759 to be the lasting impression for a lot of fans. 4:51:10.800 --> 4:51:14.400 And what's going to command the talk? Um, you know, 4:51:15.040 --> 4:51:17.920 on the outside looking in the running back position, you 4:51:17.960 --> 4:51:20.240 know what's what's it looked like moving forward? Will they 4:51:20.320 --> 4:51:24.120 pick anyone up? And as a priority free agent any 4:51:24.120 --> 4:51:25.759 of these running backs side or left? Maybe a Thomas 4:51:25.840 --> 4:51:28.760 Rawls that we've talked about one guys, um, But it 4:51:28.919 --> 4:51:31.640 tells you that they they stuck to their board and 4:51:32.040 --> 4:51:35.200 they didn't draft a running back necessarily over a player 4:51:35.200 --> 4:51:38.360 they had rated higher and talked about. In the third round. Uh, 4:51:38.560 --> 4:51:40.800 there was a first what three or four picks. Every 4:51:40.840 --> 4:51:42.480 single one of those picks was a top player on 4:51:42.520 --> 4:51:45.440 their board at that time. So you know it's uh 4:51:46.040 --> 4:51:47.840 time will tell if if it if it works out, 4:51:47.880 --> 4:51:49.880 and obviously they believe in this offensive line. Is this 4:51:50.000 --> 4:51:52.640 draft made, They're going to be made or broken by 4:51:53.040 --> 4:51:56.640 the pick with at sixty with Randy Gregory. I think 4:51:56.680 --> 4:51:58.759 it's easy to say that because that's going to receive 4:51:58.800 --> 4:52:02.240 a lot of the attention. I think that perception will 4:52:02.280 --> 4:52:05.400 be that. But I mean, I think it always starts 4:52:05.440 --> 4:52:07.960 and ends with your first round pick. I it does. 4:52:08.240 --> 4:52:11.720 I mean, but Byron Jones is twenty seven. Overall, you 4:52:11.800 --> 4:52:13.720 didn't move to get him. In a lot of ways, 4:52:13.800 --> 4:52:16.320 we traded up to get a corner. Yeah, I mean, 4:52:16.360 --> 4:52:18.880 this isn't Mo Clayborne where you gave up valuable picks 4:52:18.919 --> 4:52:20.960 to go get your guy. You're at the end of 4:52:20.960 --> 4:52:23.280 the draft. You're pretty much hand tied with what you 4:52:23.360 --> 4:52:26.040 can do, right, you pick your guy. If Byron Jones 4:52:26.160 --> 4:52:28.760 is a bust, I don't think anybody's gonna hold it 4:52:28.800 --> 4:52:31.440 against the Cowboys. But if Randy Gregory is a bust, 4:52:31.520 --> 4:52:33.480 it's gonna be a talking point for a long time. 4:52:33.520 --> 4:52:35.520 I think that's fair to say. Yeah, I agree with 4:52:35.600 --> 4:52:39.600 you on and I wonder you know, Jerry Jones Stephen 4:52:39.640 --> 4:52:41.680 Jones said from the beginning that running back was not 4:52:41.759 --> 4:52:44.480 a must, and they obviously meant it. They didn't even 4:52:44.520 --> 4:52:46.559 take one in the very last stages of the draft. 4:52:47.120 --> 4:52:51.600 Do you think that does that qualify as a gamble, like, 4:52:51.720 --> 4:52:53.840 are you taking a gamble that these guys are gonna 4:52:53.840 --> 4:52:56.240 work out? I just, I just, I mean, I think 4:52:56.280 --> 4:52:59.400 they obviously have. You know, I've talked all along. I 4:52:59.480 --> 4:53:02.640 didn't feel like that they had a great deal of confidence, 4:53:03.120 --> 4:53:05.520 and I don't think they still do in these backs 4:53:05.600 --> 4:53:08.400 and then and then this strange strategy, and it is 4:53:08.520 --> 4:53:11.760 a strange strategy, it is, and maybe things have changed. 4:53:11.840 --> 4:53:14.920 But the vibe that I was getting coming out of 4:53:14.960 --> 4:53:18.559 the meetings at the end of the season was that, Okay, 4:53:18.720 --> 4:53:21.480 what kind of confidence do we have in you know, 4:53:21.680 --> 4:53:24.040 Joseph Randal, What kind of confidence do we have in 4:53:24.640 --> 4:53:27.680 you know, Ryan Williams, you know? And I just didn't 4:53:27.720 --> 4:53:31.320 get that vibe. It was like, hey, talented players, but 4:53:31.480 --> 4:53:33.920 you know, come to work, be prepared, be ready to go. 4:53:34.440 --> 4:53:36.759 And you know, if if you listen to Jerry when 4:53:36.800 --> 4:53:38.880 he's on with you know, on the radio one oh 4:53:38.960 --> 4:53:42.480 five three, he's like, you know, he was talking, it 4:53:42.560 --> 4:53:45.200 was always about bringing up Joe Randall, Joe Randall, Joe Randall, 4:53:45.240 --> 4:53:47.560 when with Murray and then all of a sudden it 4:53:47.560 --> 4:53:50.280 became you didn't stop talking about Joseph Randall. And then 4:53:50.400 --> 4:53:52.120 I start thinking, well, wait a minute he's talking to 4:53:52.200 --> 4:53:55.520 the coaches, he's Jerry. This is Jerry now. And then 4:53:55.600 --> 4:53:57.720 they had the meeting with the coaches. Well, then all 4:53:57.960 --> 4:54:01.360 his his his thoughts change. You know, it wasn't about 4:54:01.680 --> 4:54:04.559 Joseph Randallimore. It wasn't about Ryan Williams. And that's when 4:54:04.640 --> 4:54:06.680 the depth of this draft the running back and that's 4:54:06.720 --> 4:54:09.040 why we all thought. You know, the fact that you 4:54:09.120 --> 4:54:12.840 know that they they they didn't have that confidence. You 4:54:12.880 --> 4:54:16.520 remember how into training camp and the early part of 4:54:16.560 --> 4:54:20.080 the season and even still today, Uh, you know the 4:54:20.680 --> 4:54:23.600 the you know, we talk about passing on Johnny Manziel 4:54:23.640 --> 4:54:26.400 to get Zach Martin and Jerry is still getting commended 4:54:26.520 --> 4:54:30.280 for having the discipline to do that. Right, I can 4:54:30.360 --> 4:54:34.080 see a scenario where, you know, if Ryan Williams or 4:54:34.200 --> 4:54:37.440 Joseph randall is halfway to a thousand yards in October 4:54:37.560 --> 4:54:41.280 next year, same thing happening. Hey, you didn't overreact, You 4:54:41.400 --> 4:54:44.280 trusted the guys on your roster, you didn't reach for 4:54:44.360 --> 4:54:46.480 a player, and look how it paid off. These guys 4:54:46.560 --> 4:54:49.640 rewarded you. You know what you're doing. Conversely, if the 4:54:49.759 --> 4:54:52.480 running game struggles next year, they're gonna take a lot 4:54:52.560 --> 4:54:55.600 of heat. It's not addressing that position. It's especially with 4:54:55.720 --> 4:54:57.800 all the studs that they had to choose from. That's 4:54:57.800 --> 4:54:59.879 what I'm saying. I think that's the thing that's real 4:55:00.280 --> 4:55:02.680 gonna be interesting is that you know, you led a 4:55:02.759 --> 4:55:06.120 back that had eighteen hundred yards walk and you replaced 4:55:06.200 --> 4:55:09.840 him with a back that that has talent but probably 4:55:09.840 --> 4:55:11.440 but the injury probably. And then and then you're going 4:55:11.520 --> 4:55:14.360 with the guys that are behind him, and so they're 4:55:14.440 --> 4:55:16.560 either it's it's gonna be I mean there, I don't 4:55:16.600 --> 4:55:18.560 think there's any middle ground when you decide not to 4:55:18.680 --> 4:55:22.160 address again. If you draft Jagie in the fourth, you 4:55:22.280 --> 4:55:24.320 know you did, you did your due diligence, You tried 4:55:24.360 --> 4:55:26.320 to upgrade the position. If it doesn't work out, it's 4:55:26.320 --> 4:55:29.239 hard to blame you too much. But by not addressing 4:55:29.280 --> 4:55:31.200 it at all, you're putting yourself in a situation where 4:55:31.200 --> 4:55:33.200 you're either gonna look really good or really bad. And 4:55:33.520 --> 4:55:35.880 you know, we're just it's a game of wait and see. 4:55:36.800 --> 4:55:39.800 So we're still waiting. We're told we're gonna get to 4:55:40.000 --> 4:55:42.720 Laurence Gips get that done for us here. So uh 4:55:43.480 --> 4:55:47.720 so there he is, Okay, Uh, Laurence, welcome to our show. 4:55:47.800 --> 4:55:50.320 It's Brian brought us from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David 4:55:50.400 --> 4:55:56.120 Hellman and Dane Brugler. Congratulations on your selection to be 4:55:56.240 --> 4:55:59.480 a part of the Dallas Cowboys going forward here. Oh, 4:55:59.640 --> 4:56:03.280 thank you so much. Well and Lawrence with did you 4:56:03.360 --> 4:56:06.920 know did you have an opportunity, uh, you know with 4:56:07.280 --> 4:56:10.440 uh to meet with you know, the Cowboys at any 4:56:10.560 --> 4:56:14.000 point in time? Did you have any idea any conversations 4:56:14.120 --> 4:56:17.520 with the coaching staff Jerry jam in the front office. 4:56:17.960 --> 4:56:19.920 I know the scouts went through and saw you play 4:56:19.960 --> 4:56:22.200 there at Virginia Tech. We got a chance to see 4:56:22.200 --> 4:56:23.879 you play on tape. You know, we had a lot 4:56:23.919 --> 4:56:26.160 of really positive things to say about you. But did 4:56:26.240 --> 4:56:29.720 you have any any meetings with the Cowboys, whether it's 4:56:29.800 --> 4:56:32.800 uh the combine or any anything down the line that 4:56:32.919 --> 4:56:34.640 we that that led you to believe that you could 4:56:34.640 --> 4:56:40.520 be their selection. Yes, so I'm uh the Cowboys stuff 4:56:40.560 --> 4:56:43.800 at the call online and then coached Colombo flew out 4:56:43.840 --> 4:56:47.919 to Virginia Tech and uh we spent we spent probably 4:56:47.919 --> 4:56:50.960 four or five hours ago. Uh we did some like 4:56:51.160 --> 4:56:57.520 fields work and then some some football talk. Well great, yeah, Lawrence, Um, 4:56:58.120 --> 4:56:59.920 you know David Helman here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com 4:57:00.160 --> 4:57:02.800 congrats first of all, but you know it's been a 4:57:02.880 --> 4:57:06.120 talking point here in Dallas for the last uh several years, 4:57:06.240 --> 4:57:09.120 just the work they've done working on this offensive line, 4:57:09.160 --> 4:57:12.200 the guys they've brought in, uh Tyrn Smith, Doug free 4:57:12.360 --> 4:57:16.120 Zach Martin, all that, all those picks that they've used 4:57:16.120 --> 4:57:18.880 to shore this thing up. What's your impression of the 4:57:18.960 --> 4:57:23.800 situation you're stepping into the room you mentioned, uh, Mark Colombo, 4:57:23.960 --> 4:57:26.400 just the guys here and the unit that they've built 4:57:26.400 --> 4:57:29.399 here in Dallas. I mean, it's just it's just an 4:57:29.440 --> 4:57:31.960 amazing opportunity, Like I'm gonna get to go there and 4:57:32.560 --> 4:57:35.960 work with Pro Bowl offensive lineman and what you can't 4:57:36.120 --> 4:57:39.640 you can't ask for any better than that. When when 4:57:39.800 --> 4:57:42.160 Mark went out there, and we all know Mark here. 4:57:42.280 --> 4:57:45.520 Mark's kind of a tough old school offensive lineman himself. 4:57:46.080 --> 4:57:48.200 He puts you through some pretty good paces there. You 4:57:48.240 --> 4:57:50.360 talked about working with him on the field and all that, 4:57:50.960 --> 4:57:52.800 Uh did did he did? He did? He get down 4:57:52.880 --> 4:57:54.560 and dirty with you a little bit, kind of try 4:57:54.560 --> 4:57:57.960 and push you around and see where you're at. Oh yeah, 4:57:58.280 --> 4:58:00.680 of course that was That was probably be one of 4:58:00.880 --> 4:58:03.560 like the most genuous workouts that I that I had. 4:58:03.640 --> 4:58:06.080 We were out there for probably like an hour and 4:58:06.160 --> 4:58:10.720 a half. Well, good, just doing drill after drill, right, yeah, 4:58:10.800 --> 4:58:12.480 well that you know, Mark's one of those guys like 4:58:12.560 --> 4:58:14.840 we know and you know, let me ask you this. 4:58:14.960 --> 4:58:17.600 Had they give any any indication that Mark, did they 4:58:17.680 --> 4:58:21.200 work any any particular position on the right side the 4:58:21.320 --> 4:58:23.960 left side? Is any any give you any case er 4:58:24.240 --> 4:58:26.080 or do they tell you to be pretty flexible about 4:58:26.120 --> 4:58:28.520 maybe what they can do with you? Oh? I mean 4:58:28.640 --> 4:58:31.440 I am flexible. And when we had to work out, 4:58:31.480 --> 4:58:34.640 I didn't work both sides left hand, right, But um 4:58:34.960 --> 4:58:37.320 I also played left and right in college too, so 4:58:38.160 --> 4:58:41.280 you know I'm gonna work in wherever I can. Well, 4:58:41.440 --> 4:58:44.960 very good, Well listen, Laurds. Hey, congratulations on your selection 4:58:45.000 --> 4:58:46.840 that Dallas course. Thanks for spending some time with us, 4:58:47.080 --> 4:58:49.000 and we'll see when you get here in Dallas and 4:58:49.240 --> 4:58:51.719 looking forward to working with you and uh and getting 4:58:51.759 --> 4:58:55.080 this thing going for you. Okay, congrats, All right, thanks guys, 4:58:56.360 --> 4:59:01.320 All right. Laurence Gibson, the offensive tackle from Virginia Tech, 4:59:01.720 --> 4:59:04.600 was selected in the seventh round by the Dallas Cowboys. 4:59:05.200 --> 4:59:07.760 Uh he was uh what pick was that? That was 4:59:07.800 --> 4:59:12.320 pick two? Forty three down to the final few selections 4:59:12.520 --> 4:59:17.320 in this draft. We are at pick two fifty five 4:59:17.800 --> 4:59:22.480 is in that's owned by the Indianapolis Colts. And uh, 4:59:22.640 --> 4:59:26.240 then the final pick of this draft will be at 4:59:26.320 --> 4:59:30.520 two fifty six and that is owned by the Arizona Cardinals. 4:59:30.759 --> 4:59:35.720 So to quote a song, it's been a long, strange 4:59:35.840 --> 4:59:38.840 journey to this point in time. We've talked about a 4:59:38.840 --> 4:59:41.360 little bit about the Cowboys and what we've thought. Uh, 4:59:41.560 --> 4:59:45.440 that's been you know, sitting sitting in spots. Really, the 4:59:45.520 --> 4:59:49.280 only move they made was to get a to flip 4:59:49.400 --> 4:59:53.520 a pick next year to gravitten. Did you expect Alas 4:59:53.560 --> 4:59:57.560 to to be uh, just to be this calm with 4:59:57.720 --> 5:00:02.280 their draft that the seventh round, that was trading into 5:00:02.360 --> 5:00:04.560 that back into the seventh rounds. I'm still trying to 5:00:04.640 --> 5:00:06.560 wrap my head around that. Just not not not that 5:00:06.720 --> 5:00:08.960 it's the wrong move, but just I don't think any 5:00:08.960 --> 5:00:10.680 of us saw that coming. No, it's a weird thing 5:00:10.759 --> 5:00:13.239 to see. It really is giving up a future sixth 5:00:13.880 --> 5:00:16.800 for a seventh this year. Obviously they saw something in 5:00:16.880 --> 5:00:20.160 the player that they didn't want to fight other teams 5:00:20.200 --> 5:00:23.680 to sign him in state. I mean, he's a California kid, 5:00:23.919 --> 5:00:26.720 but he played in state of Texas. Uh. I don't 5:00:26.759 --> 5:00:28.680 think anyone saw it coming. And here we are down 5:00:28.759 --> 5:00:32.240 to the final pick, number two fifty six coming here shortly. 5:00:32.800 --> 5:00:36.200 It's uh, it's bittersweet. It's crazy that we just went 5:00:36.240 --> 5:00:39.160 through two hundred and fifty six picks last three days 5:00:39.400 --> 5:00:42.640 and all the all the draft shows everything we've done 5:00:42.680 --> 5:00:46.640 the last few months culminating right now. Yeah, and then uh, 5:00:46.880 --> 5:00:50.520 it's it's always a it's a very frantic time. What's 5:00:50.560 --> 5:00:54.960 going on in these war rooms around the country. And 5:00:55.400 --> 5:00:57.840 it looks like that pick two hundred and fifty six 5:00:58.800 --> 5:01:03.000 is in fact in Solia Collins to not get drafted. No, yeah, 5:01:03.320 --> 5:01:06.440 and that kind of some rumblings around the building today 5:01:06.560 --> 5:01:08.480 that they might kick the tires on that, but I 5:01:08.560 --> 5:01:13.320 guess they Ultimately, I've never seen anything like that. You know, 5:01:15.240 --> 5:01:17.880 he can't re enter the draft next year, No, he can't. 5:01:17.919 --> 5:01:21.240 And you know so that wait, he can't if even 5:01:21.280 --> 5:01:23.759 if he decides not to sign with the team he's 5:01:23.800 --> 5:01:26.440 a free agent now oh wow, yeah, yeah, they can't. 5:01:26.520 --> 5:01:29.880 He can't do that. So uh so his his his 5:01:30.080 --> 5:01:32.520 camp was confident on him getting drafted, and then he 5:01:32.560 --> 5:01:35.200 wouldn't sign his paperwork, and then he'd be eligible, right 5:01:35.280 --> 5:01:38.360 if he was drafted then and he didn't sign, then 5:01:38.440 --> 5:01:41.200 he could have re entered The team that drafted him 5:01:41.240 --> 5:01:43.200 had his rights for a year, right, and then he 5:01:43.200 --> 5:01:45.960 could have re entered the draft next year. But since 5:01:46.040 --> 5:01:48.840 he went undrafted, technically he is a free agent right 5:01:48.880 --> 5:01:51.680 now exactly, So what the hell happened? So he's got 5:01:51.720 --> 5:01:54.440 a meeting with the police on Monday, and then there's 5:01:54.480 --> 5:01:58.680 gonna be a stampede of NFL teams, assuming that everything 5:01:58.840 --> 5:02:02.240 is okay. Eagle Front, yep, that'll be an interesting that 5:02:02.320 --> 5:02:05.320 should be very interesting to watch. It's a shame a 5:02:05.440 --> 5:02:08.040 kid goes from a first round pick. But again, I 5:02:08.520 --> 5:02:12.400 just kind of gathering a little facts or some information 5:02:12.480 --> 5:02:15.200 on it. Sounds like this is really something that he 5:02:15.640 --> 5:02:18.719 could have taken care of a while ago and did 5:02:18.840 --> 5:02:22.600 not do that. So listen to everybody out there to 5:02:22.800 --> 5:02:26.719 take care of your business and not everybody gets charged 5:02:26.720 --> 5:02:29.640 with it's not charged, but it gets questioned on these 5:02:29.720 --> 5:02:32.160 kind of things. So can't let's do this. You got 5:02:32.200 --> 5:02:34.520 two fifty six, Let's go to the podium and get 5:02:34.560 --> 5:02:37.239 the final pick event for all of us to enjoy. 5:02:38.600 --> 5:02:41.480 It's so mean that they call this guy. Things must 5:02:41.520 --> 5:02:43.360 come to an end. For the final pick of a 5:02:43.440 --> 5:02:48.080 twenty fifteen draft. Please welcome to the podium, Melanie Fitch. 5:02:48.320 --> 5:02:51.400 She is the daughter of NFL legend and the founder 5:02:51.520 --> 5:02:56.480 of mister Irrelevant, Paul Salata. Melanie Welcome. It's like, oh, congratulations, 5:02:56.560 --> 5:03:00.760 you don't matter. He gets a parade and everything. The 5:03:00.880 --> 5:03:04.919 final pick of the NFL Draft, also known as mister Irrelevant, 5:03:05.320 --> 5:03:09.600 reaches a significant milestone in twenty fifteen. This year's selection 5:03:09.759 --> 5:03:15.080 kicks off the fortieth year of Irrelevant Week, where mister irrelevance, perseverance, determination, 5:03:15.240 --> 5:03:17.800 and athletic achievements will be honored at the Bellboa Bay 5:03:17.880 --> 5:03:21.400 Resort in Newport Beach, California, for the announcement of the 5:03:21.520 --> 5:03:25.680 Arizona Cardinal selection of Mister Irrelevant. Forty. Let's turn it 5:03:25.720 --> 5:03:30.520 to mister Irrelevant thirty seven Cardinals quarterback Chandler Harness, who's 5:03:31.000 --> 5:03:41.239 joined by Paul Salata, founder of Irrelevant. Chandler. All right, everybody, 5:03:41.320 --> 5:03:44.000 the final round of the draft is finally in. This 5:03:44.160 --> 5:03:46.440 is also known as mister Irrelevant. So the final pick 5:03:46.520 --> 5:03:49.720 for twenty fifteen reaches a huge milestone. This is the 5:03:49.800 --> 5:03:55.720 fortieth year for mister Irrelevant Week, and that's celebrating perseverance, determination, 5:03:55.919 --> 5:03:58.320 athletic achievement and all that's going to be honored. We 5:03:58.400 --> 5:04:01.000 have President Michael Bidwell here today with the Arizona Cardinal 5:04:01.440 --> 5:04:03.840 and we also do about this the first So the 5:04:03.880 --> 5:04:07.440 Arizona Cardinals want to have the selection of mister Irrelevant 5:04:07.680 --> 5:04:11.720 number forty announced by mister Irrelevant thirty seven. And that's 5:04:11.759 --> 5:04:14.399 the quarterback you're seeing right here. This is Chandler Harness 5:04:14.480 --> 5:04:22.200 and he's joined by mister irrelevant founder Paul Salata. All right, 5:04:22.240 --> 5:04:24.040 here we go, shout out to the Red Sea and 5:04:24.080 --> 5:04:27.600 the Bird Gang with the thirty ninth pick, seventh round 5:04:27.680 --> 5:04:32.280 two fifty six overall, the two thy fifteen. Mister Irrelevant 5:04:32.320 --> 5:04:36.520 for the Arizona Cardinals at Cardinals is Gerald Christian tied 5:04:36.640 --> 5:04:40.079 end for there you go one. He goes from one 5:04:40.160 --> 5:04:44.000 Cardinal to the other Cardinal. You done, former Florida transfer. 5:04:44.200 --> 5:04:48.560 So Gerald Christian as mister irrelevant pick two fifty six 5:04:49.480 --> 5:04:54.800 and that will close the an annual selection meeting. Is 5:04:54.960 --> 5:04:57.840 the NFL likes to call it. I like to call 5:04:57.919 --> 5:05:00.440 it the draft. The NFL Draft. It's been a part 5:05:00.480 --> 5:05:03.800 of my life. Since nineteen ninety two. I enjoy every 5:05:03.880 --> 5:05:06.480 single minute of it. I enjoyed the preparation. Thank you 5:05:06.600 --> 5:05:09.640 very much, Jim Nance for the music tradition. Yeah, a 5:05:09.720 --> 5:05:13.560 tradition like no other. Hello but friends. But now we're 5:05:13.600 --> 5:05:15.600 about to have a press conference coming up here and 5:05:15.640 --> 5:05:18.840 stuff like that, and we do, and we do, and again, 5:05:18.919 --> 5:05:21.000 I just want to get some just some final thoughts. 5:05:21.040 --> 5:05:22.360 I was trying to kind of get there before we 5:05:22.440 --> 5:05:26.200 got to mister irrelevant, But just some you know, final thoughts. 5:05:26.320 --> 5:05:29.040 We talked about the Cowboys, we talked about some of 5:05:29.120 --> 5:05:31.280 the surprises we thought, we talked about the ways that 5:05:31.400 --> 5:05:34.480 they might have helped themselves. We will always question about 5:05:34.520 --> 5:05:38.720 the running backs that situation. But just some final thoughts 5:05:38.960 --> 5:05:42.520 about the draft itself. And uh, and I'm not asking 5:05:42.560 --> 5:05:45.680 to grade anything or but just kind of what your 5:05:46.080 --> 5:05:49.840 impressions were overall, I think, I mean, there's one glaring, 5:05:50.240 --> 5:05:54.120 obvious exception, which is Randy Gregory. I mean it's not 5:05:54.720 --> 5:05:56.680 and I mean this as a compliments. I don't get 5:05:56.720 --> 5:05:58.880 me wrong. It's not a lot of flash here. To me. 5:05:59.120 --> 5:06:02.240 It's an effish and you know, you address needs. It's 5:06:02.320 --> 5:06:04.640 kind of like Zack Martin last year, nobody got excited 5:06:04.640 --> 5:06:07.440 about Zack Martin. People were audibly disappointed in the crowd 5:06:07.480 --> 5:06:09.759 when it wasn't Johnny Manziel. But he goes out, he's 5:06:09.800 --> 5:06:11.879 a Pro Bowl or he fits the need, and that's 5:06:11.960 --> 5:06:13.239 kind of how I feel about this. I mean, you're 5:06:13.320 --> 5:06:16.600 drafting guys who you know, Chaz Green doesn't really move 5:06:16.640 --> 5:06:18.960 the needle, but you needed a swing tackle. You needed 5:06:19.000 --> 5:06:20.960 a guy that you feel confident can step in if 5:06:21.000 --> 5:06:23.120 one of your guys gets hurt. They got that. They 5:06:23.200 --> 5:06:25.120 got a guy who you think can probably be one 5:06:25.120 --> 5:06:27.080 of the top three corners on this team right away. 5:06:27.120 --> 5:06:33.120 And Byron Jones, you know Wilson the linebacker. Again, maybe 5:06:33.160 --> 5:06:34.520 not a guy that's going to step in and have 5:06:34.560 --> 5:06:37.079 a hundred tackles as a rookie, but you need depth, 5:06:37.200 --> 5:06:40.120 a for injuries, be for special teams, see because you 5:06:40.160 --> 5:06:42.480 don't know the long term future of the position, so 5:06:43.000 --> 5:06:46.640 you know you gotta when you're thinking about it years 5:06:46.720 --> 5:06:49.080 down the line instead of Week one, twenty fifteen. I 5:06:49.160 --> 5:06:52.200 think all these guys serve a very direct purpose, and 5:06:52.280 --> 5:06:55.400 then I think the exclamation point is a flashy, sexy 5:06:55.520 --> 5:06:58.480 guy who can Randy Gregory if he is what they 5:06:58.520 --> 5:07:00.879 hope he is. Then you're talking about a double digit 5:07:00.960 --> 5:07:03.960 sack guy who can anchor your defensive line along with 5:07:04.040 --> 5:07:07.160 the Marcus Lawrence. Again, you can never predict it, but 5:07:07.200 --> 5:07:08.840 if it goes the way they want it to, then 5:07:09.160 --> 5:07:11.600 that's a great tandem to have on your defensive line 5:07:11.640 --> 5:07:14.080 for the next few years. So, you know, I don't 5:07:14.080 --> 5:07:15.640 know how to grade a draft, but I would give 5:07:15.720 --> 5:07:18.600 this one a good grade. Absolutely, we're gonna go to 5:07:18.720 --> 5:07:21.360 our guy who's not been mister Irrelevant at all. He's 5:07:21.400 --> 5:07:25.920 been a first round pick all throughout this he takes 5:07:26.000 --> 5:07:27.440 his time to come and be a part of what 5:07:27.560 --> 5:07:29.840 we do here at the Draft show and then also 5:07:29.960 --> 5:07:32.360 what we were doing on the road at the Senior Bowl, 5:07:32.880 --> 5:07:35.880 and then also at the Combine. And Dane, we can't 5:07:35.960 --> 5:07:37.960 thank you enough for all the things that you've done 5:07:38.000 --> 5:07:41.520 for us, and you know, and the expertise that you bring, 5:07:41.640 --> 5:07:43.600 the professionalism. I know one day we're gonna lose you 5:07:43.680 --> 5:07:46.080 to one of these NFL teams and you're gonna be 5:07:46.080 --> 5:07:48.920 a part of that and picking these guys for real. 5:07:49.720 --> 5:07:52.160 But thank you for all you've done. Thank you very much, 5:07:52.240 --> 5:07:55.200 sir your thoughts on this and it didn't have to 5:07:55.240 --> 5:07:57.040 be so much about the Cowboys, but just you know, 5:07:57.120 --> 5:07:59.240 another draft. You've been doing this a long time. I 5:07:59.320 --> 5:08:02.160 mean you are a young man, but you know, still 5:08:02.840 --> 5:08:04.680 it didn't have like Dave said, it didn't have the 5:08:04.800 --> 5:08:07.280 flash that we've seen in you know, it didn't have 5:08:07.480 --> 5:08:10.039 the the up and round on the chaos and all 5:08:10.080 --> 5:08:12.879 that we've seen in drafts pass but right, a very 5:08:12.919 --> 5:08:15.960 efficient draft. Every draft has an identity, and thank you 5:08:16.080 --> 5:08:18.600 guys have letting me know be here and be part 5:08:18.640 --> 5:08:21.239 of this. It's been so much fun just talking draft 5:08:21.360 --> 5:08:25.399 for how how many months? Every draft has an identity. 5:08:25.480 --> 5:08:27.440 It really does, and you know, we'd come away from 5:08:27.440 --> 5:08:30.840 each draft thinking different things and feeling feeling good about 5:08:30.880 --> 5:08:33.960 certain picks. And I think with Dallas, the most important 5:08:34.000 --> 5:08:37.480 thing was that twenty seventh pick, getting that right, getting 5:08:37.520 --> 5:08:39.280 your first round pick right, and I think they did. 5:08:39.320 --> 5:08:41.400 They hit a home run with Byron Jones and the 5:08:41.520 --> 5:08:44.440 way the first round, This first round was unlike any 5:08:44.520 --> 5:08:47.480 other with the way it played out, two trades, just 5:08:47.640 --> 5:08:51.680 not a lot of surprises, and it still worked out 5:08:51.720 --> 5:08:53.520 where the Cowboys were able to get their guy, and 5:08:53.640 --> 5:08:56.960 so it worked out great. And then this third day today, 5:08:57.280 --> 5:08:59.720 a lot of a lot of surprises. A few names 5:09:00.000 --> 5:09:02.000 at surprise went off the board. A few names that 5:09:02.040 --> 5:09:04.239 are left. I'm going through them. About the post on CBS, 5:09:04.600 --> 5:09:07.360 the top fifteen undrafted guys, I mean it starts with 5:09:07.520 --> 5:09:10.720 Lyle Collins obviously, but guys like Dres Anderson, Mike Hall, 5:09:11.080 --> 5:09:14.120 Cody Pruett, right Reestas Muke. So a lot of players 5:09:14.200 --> 5:09:18.480 still available that will sign contracts here tonight. But overall, 5:09:18.800 --> 5:09:22.360 another great draft. It's it's it's been fun. Yeah, you 5:09:22.400 --> 5:09:25.360 know my my impressions of drafts, right, you know, this 5:09:25.520 --> 5:09:28.400 is the best time to to build your team. That 5:09:28.880 --> 5:09:31.560 to me, the really the best time. I understand what 5:09:31.640 --> 5:09:34.680 free agency does you know are these players? I mean 5:09:34.759 --> 5:09:36.640 you have to overspend, but this is this is what 5:09:36.840 --> 5:09:40.000 your backbone is right here. And the Cowboys, there's no 5:09:40.400 --> 5:09:42.600 h there's no denying that they got better last year 5:09:42.640 --> 5:09:45.280 because if they started drafting better, you get better players, 5:09:45.480 --> 5:09:47.680 you match up better in games. On a pretty good street. 5:09:47.720 --> 5:09:49.520 They're on a good streak and that's what they need 5:09:49.600 --> 5:09:52.280 to continue to do. You know what, what will McClay, 5:09:52.480 --> 5:09:55.759 you know, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett, the scouting staff, 5:09:56.160 --> 5:09:58.120 everything that they've been able to do to pull this 5:09:58.320 --> 5:10:00.600 thing together. And it's a lot of work. I mean, 5:10:00.640 --> 5:10:02.480 you don't realize. I mean we we sit here and 5:10:02.560 --> 5:10:04.640 talk about it and we do our own little but 5:10:04.800 --> 5:10:06.759 you know, guys are away from their families and stuff 5:10:06.840 --> 5:10:08.800 like that. It's a it's a very you know, this 5:10:09.000 --> 5:10:11.640 is their their there there, this is their time of year. 5:10:11.720 --> 5:10:15.280 And today being the third day, was the scouts day, 5:10:15.520 --> 5:10:18.200 you know. And and again there's there's some players out 5:10:18.200 --> 5:10:19.759 there and this thing's not over. I mean, you got 5:10:19.800 --> 5:10:22.160 this draft. Now you'll have the second draft, and the 5:10:22.280 --> 5:10:25.440 second draft really is about free agency after this draft 5:10:25.520 --> 5:10:27.800 and you know, going out and maybe you do get 5:10:27.840 --> 5:10:30.280 because Dallas Cowboys have done a really nice job of 5:10:30.480 --> 5:10:35.080 signing guys that are free agents now college Fridge and 5:10:35.160 --> 5:10:38.280 then having them make their teams and having success with 5:10:38.400 --> 5:10:41.440 those teams. This is unlike any other draft. And I 5:10:41.640 --> 5:10:46.840 say that with confidence because there's a big unknown down 5:10:46.960 --> 5:10:52.040 in our alma mater, in our hometown. Yeah. Uh who, 5:10:52.200 --> 5:10:53.960 I mean, that's that's something to keep an eye on. 5:10:54.040 --> 5:10:56.919 I mean, yeah, yeah, if that check. And I mean 5:10:57.440 --> 5:10:59.520 I thought there was a point in time where you 5:10:59.560 --> 5:11:02.759 would have haken him and and and maybe and again 5:11:02.840 --> 5:11:04.720 I didn't know the information. I don't think none of 5:11:04.800 --> 5:11:10.079 us knew the information totally with him what the situation was. Uh, 5:11:10.400 --> 5:11:14.880 you know, obviously the the the programs, the uh, the 5:11:15.160 --> 5:11:18.960 the teams got some kind of report, probably from the league. 5:11:19.560 --> 5:11:21.800 I talked about, Hey, if it was me, I would send, 5:11:22.400 --> 5:11:24.400 I would send. You know, Larry Wansley would have been 5:11:24.440 --> 5:11:27.200 in Baton Rouge two days ago trying to figure this out. 5:11:27.560 --> 5:11:29.200 And if you get the if it would have been 5:11:29.240 --> 5:11:32.160 favorable or not favorable, Uh, then at least you have 5:11:32.280 --> 5:11:35.000 an idea what direction you want to go in. So maybe, 5:11:35.200 --> 5:11:37.240 and again you know, who knows what's going to happen. 5:11:37.280 --> 5:11:38.640 I don't know what the deal is any more than 5:11:38.640 --> 5:11:42.160 anybody else does. But if if he's cleared and nothing 5:11:42.360 --> 5:11:45.840 is wrong, I don't see why the Cowboys wouldn't be 5:11:45.880 --> 5:11:49.200 major players for his services. Well, and there's no I mean, 5:11:49.600 --> 5:11:52.320 there's no restrictions on that. You know that it's he's 5:11:52.360 --> 5:11:54.480 up for wherever he wants free file. It's up to 5:11:54.560 --> 5:11:57.080 him of his choice of whoever wants to him. If 5:11:57.080 --> 5:11:58.960 it once that thing clears, if it does clear, if 5:11:59.000 --> 5:12:00.720 it does clear, if it does clear, So there's some 5:12:00.840 --> 5:12:04.040 still some hurdles. So okay, well we're gonna we're gonna 5:12:04.120 --> 5:12:06.960 step aside here from our draft coverage. We were gonna 5:12:07.000 --> 5:12:10.160 thank everybody around the world brought us. Oh, we need 5:12:10.240 --> 5:12:16.239 to thank you. This is your baby, This was your idea. Hey, 5:12:16.360 --> 5:12:24.680 had fun, had fun, Thank you guys, but seriously brought 5:12:24.800 --> 5:12:26.720 us this. This You're the heart and soul of this 5:12:26.840 --> 5:12:29.880 draft show this year. Uh, you know, Dane, obviously you 5:12:30.040 --> 5:12:32.400 coming on as well. It was great, tiny gem always 5:12:32.400 --> 5:12:36.040 good to have you. But yeah, but brought us that 5:12:36.160 --> 5:12:39.680 chair since ten am this morning and every fan, everyone 5:12:39.720 --> 5:12:42.360 in Cowboys Nation appreciates it. So so thank you, very 5:12:42.520 --> 5:12:45.440 very very much. Well, thank you guys. Appreciate you guys too. Okay, 5:12:45.840 --> 5:12:50.120 what's coming up next is gonna be uh the wrap 5:12:50.240 --> 5:12:52.559 up of the uh with the press conference and stuff 5:12:52.680 --> 5:12:54.480 where we're gonna go off. We're gonna go off the 5:12:54.520 --> 5:12:55.680 air here. If you a little bit, just take a 5:12:55.720 --> 5:12:59.400 little break, make sure you still keep your computers and 5:12:59.440 --> 5:13:01.800 brows all stuff up on Dallas Cowboys dot com because 5:13:01.840 --> 5:13:04.280 then you'll hear we will have post draft post drafts, 5:13:04.320 --> 5:13:07.640 and keep your eyes on the site because the undrafted 5:13:07.680 --> 5:13:09.520 free agents are coming and that's a great thing about 5:13:09.560 --> 5:13:12.120 Twitter too, You mean sometimes you get yep, you can 5:13:12.160 --> 5:13:14.760 get these guys tweet out who who have them, who's playing. 5:13:14.840 --> 5:13:17.760 So for my whole crew here, for my scouting buddies, 5:13:17.800 --> 5:13:20.880 for David Hellman, for Dame Brugler, it's been a pleasure. 5:13:21.000 --> 5:13:24.760 Thank you. And for Kent Garrison, Lauren Sokol, Thank you guys. 5:13:24.800 --> 5:13:27.079 For Douglas. I know he's probably hanging out there somewhere. 5:13:27.440 --> 5:13:29.480 But again, thanks everybody out there around the world for 5:13:29.600 --> 5:13:32.400 being a part of this. Thanks again for always caring 5:13:32.400 --> 5:13:34.360 about the Draft show, and thanks again for always caring 5:13:34.400 --> 5:13:37.160 about what we say. We will be back with you 5:13:38.000 --> 5:13:41.080 this time next year to probably do this again and 5:13:41.280 --> 5:13:44.239 then enjoy the season, enjoy all the coverage on Dallas 5:13:44.280 --> 5:13:47.440 Cowboys dot Com, and please take care. This has been 5:13:47.480 --> 5:13:50.640 a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 5:13:50.720 --> 5:13:51.920 Cowboys Football Club.