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Speaker 1: your hosts, Dane Brugler and Brian brought us and welcome

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Speaker 1: to day three of the coverage here on Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: program started in a special way because we have a

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Speaker 1: special coach here, a special teacher in a lot of

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Speaker 1: different ways. You know. I'm very excited. I've always been

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Speaker 1: my times of being in National Football League and evaluating coaches.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the those outstanding guys when you

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Speaker 1: watch on the field, and I'm talking about Rod Marinelli

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Speaker 1: and the things that he's able to get from his

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Speaker 1: and thank you so much for taking some time with

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Speaker 1: here coach. We yesterday we went through this whole day

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Speaker 1: We've evaluated the talent. We know what that talents. When

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Speaker 1: And I want to get from you because Simeon Rice,

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Speaker 1: Is that a fair comparison Simeon Rice with what we

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Speaker 1: You know, Simeon was special. I mean he came out

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Speaker 1: of college that he's a special athlete, specially special player,

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Speaker 1: got the great mental makeup to be for the position,

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Speaker 1: The U when it's so hard to find those elite

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Speaker 1: two guys singled up. Coach, very fortunate last night to

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Speaker 1: It's uh, you know too right every second of every day.

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Speaker 1: so much for stopping buying a great start to our day,

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Speaker 1: think they might go. Of course, we don't know what's

428
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Speaker 1: going to be on the board at one twenty seven.

429
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Speaker 1: But what do you think need wise right now agonizing

430
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 1: weight to the end of the round? Well, I mean

431
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: you wrote a story about it this morning that you

432
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Speaker 1: can check out on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Plug. I

433
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: think that to me, And I'm getting opposition from my

434
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: plaid wearing colleague across the table from me, David Hellman. Yeah,

435
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: I was just listening tiny gym. Yeah, so we got

436
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: the camera working here, so we're doing a little we're

437
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: doing good there. But I will say this though, I

438
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: think that to me, Bryce Petty makes a lot of

439
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: sense this point in time, and I'm going to start

440
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: the journey and I'm gonna start the journey with Bryce Petty.

441
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: Do you think you have to trade up to get him?

442
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: I remember those quarterbacks all went in the first ten picks.

443
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: I am just throwing the name out there right now.

444
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: Do you want Bryce Petty bad enough that you're gonna

445
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: trade for him? You? I mean, I don't. I mean,

446
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: we can't move up to the early part of the

447
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: fourth You know what, every name that we thought might

448
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: be there or we thought would be gone, has stay,

449
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: has has slid down that board. We thought Bryce Petty

450
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: would be a second round pick. Yeah, I mean exactly.

451
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: So it's not a we were to call him for

452
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: me if he if he does slip. So they it's

453
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: like Coach Marinelli, visit him with us here a little bit.

454
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: Get the wrong phone, grab the wrong phone, coach, somebody's phone.

455
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: This one's everybody's checking phones here. So I am at

456
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: a loss. Coach. You just gotta brand new. You have

457
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: your phone? Oh okay, okay, all right, good luck today.

458
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: Coach Rod Marinelli. That's the great thing about live radio,

459
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: just get random visits from legendary phone. I do have

460
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: his phone. No, she got on p Yeah you know

461
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, check that text mess I think that

462
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: I can go ahead and say this, yeah, and it's

463
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: this provides the opportunity since he came in here looking

464
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: for his phone yesterday during the draft one Randy Gregory,

465
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm hurt. I hear was texting him throughout the draft

466
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: leading leading up to the pig Well, you can tell

467
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: by what the emojis, yeah and yip he wore, he wore.

468
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: Ask people, what is it? What is this? What is

469
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: this smiley faced out here? Anyway, that's hilarious. Day three, Um,

470
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Day one, Day two, the first three rounds,

471
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: top one hundred picks basically that's where your fireworks are.

472
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: That's where, uh, you know a lot of the big

473
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: name players are drafted. But Day three that's when you

474
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: build your roster, right, that's when you find your depth. Now,

475
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that are picked today, they

476
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: won't cut it, but a lot of the guys that

477
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: are picked today will be the guys that round out

478
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: your roster. That when your star goes down. They have

479
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: to see the field. And you know, you look at

480
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and just look at the players on that

481
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: roster who we're not taking in the top one hundred picks,

482
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: and there's quite a few, So a lot of reasons

483
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: to be paying attention to what the teams do today.

484
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee picking right now, the pick is in. Of course

485
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: they've gone with Mariota, DGB and Potassi attackles. Have you

486
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: gone all offense with their first three picks. I'm not

487
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: a bad start, yeah, I kind of. I was not.

488
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: We all understand who the first two, you know, the

489
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: quarterback and the receiver. Putassi though, Dane. I thought a

490
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: guy that maybe a much better pass blocker than a

491
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: run blocker. I thought for a big guy, had some ruining,

492
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: nice feet. You know, it's a team really trying to

493
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: build rebuild their offensive line, you know, so, uh you

494
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: know that that wasn't I thought a bad pick. So

495
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: here we go with the Titans from the Tennessee National

496
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: Guard Headquarters in Nashville. Oh you know what, I remember

497
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 1: him saying, they're gonna do this in the twenty fifteen

498
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The Tennessee Titans would like to welcome Captain

499
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: Trey Robinson from the Tennessee Air National Guard. With the

500
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: first pick of the fourth round, number one hundred overall,

501
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans select Angelo Blacks and defensive tackle from Auburn.

502
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: Angelo Blocks A little bit of a surprise there. I

503
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: don't think he's the best defensive tackle on Auburn's team.

504
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was expecting to hear another

505
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Auburn d tackle called yeah that to me when he

506
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: was not a guy. When I watched him play though,

507
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: I saw a guy that got tied up way too

508
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: much on the blocks. And and you know when when

509
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: teams were when they were handling him a lot of

510
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: single blocks. You talk about those inside guys. I'm looking

511
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: for a guy that can you know when the guard

512
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: and the center both get on you, that you're finding

513
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: a way to get to the ball. And I just

514
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: had a real problem with this guy overall. Even like

515
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: you say, the single blocks were taking him out of

516
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: the play. I understand the size and all that and

517
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: what he is, but as far as a down after

518
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: down consistent player, I just didn't see it. And Gabe

519
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: right still available. They had their choice of either one

520
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: of those Auburn guys if they wanted him. Yeah, very

521
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: active player special teams and on defense. Had four blocked

522
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: kicks on special teams. So a player that he needs work,

523
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: they need to pop the hood and you know, get

524
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: in there and uh, you know, refigure some stuff there.

525
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: But a player that has consistent I mean, but it

526
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: just got blocked all the time, you know, you know,

527
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: I just looking at his combined numbers. That combine numbers

528
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: were slightly better than Gabe right, for whatever that's worth. Yeah,

529
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people like Gabe right more

530
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: I like Gabe right a lot. Yeah. And New England,

531
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: I see is next on the clock. I'm just gonna

532
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: throw something out because I've got I've got They they

533
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I sat, I sat with their guys at the Senior Bowl.

534
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: I sat with their scouts at the Senior Bowl. Watched

535
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: this practice and they told you the tray this is

536
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna be Trey Flowers. Yeah, they have waited, they've this.

537
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: They they talk about Trey Flowers and there there's the pick. Yeah.

538
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: See that's insight you don't get anywhere else. They think

539
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: that Trey Flowers. They love the flat. The fact that

540
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: when ball was run to his side. He was not

541
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: given up that corner. So they they're very excited. They

542
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: were sitting on this pick. I thought he was gonna

543
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: be a third round pick for them, But here he is.

544
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Top of the Patriots have done now, taking Malcolm Brown

545
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: in the first round. In Trey Flowers here in the

546
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: fourth round is younger. Yeah, he's got a lot younger

547
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: in that, uh for sure right there, eighty four and

548
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: a half. He just eats guys up. So Trey Flower,

549
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: that was you know, that was They couldn't say enough

550
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: thing during the senior here? Did you not? I did,

551
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: because when you watched him play, he's I don't know how,

552
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: He's always around the ball. He's always one of those

553
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: guys that when the when it was snapped, he's getting

554
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: blocked and then all of a sudden he's there. He's

555
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: tackle for lass, he's up the field, he gets you know,

556
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: gets plays wide, but the ball doesn't get outside of him.

557
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: So you know that Bielam is on NFL Network talking

558
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, and they also took Lorenzo Malden in

559
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: the third round or actually that's that was the Jets.

560
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm on the wrong pag Geno Grissom from Oklahoma,

561
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: my man who by the way, I think Nick Saban

562
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: gave his good friend Bill Belichick a great scouting report

563
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: on Geno Grissom because you're remember he scoring a touchdown

564
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: for my Sooners against the Crimson Tide in a Sugar Bowl.

565
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: But I digress that was his best game he probably

566
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: ever played. That's exactly right. All right, we got Oakland

567
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: on the board now with a trade. Oh hell, okay,

568
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: it looks like yeah, it looks like the Panthers are

569
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: now on d You know, we've talked about the Panthers, uh,

570
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. As far as uh,

571
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: I thought safety was something that we Vince Vince visited

572
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: about the other night. Uh, we see offensive lineman, so

573
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the tackle. They haven't taken an offensive tackle,

574
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: have they in this draft. They're stubborn about that offensive tackle? Yeah? There,

575
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: but this might be an opportunity. I mean we we've

576
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: we in the pre well, we had coach, but we've

577
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: talked about Darryl Williams before. We've talked about other recommendation.

578
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: I've watched him. Yeah, Clemmings with the foot, I mean,

579
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna be mention guy. And yeah, point today, I'm like,

580
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: what's going Like this must be the worst stress fracture

581
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: of all time. I had him in the first round. Boards,

582
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: I had him in the first round, and he must

583
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: be off the boards. But but but at some point,

584
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: at the same thing that we're talking about with Jay

585
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: and Jai, like, at some point, aren't you just like

586
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: this is he played with it? Though he's at the

587
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl playing with it. So I don't I don't

588
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: quite know what's in But they think his foot's gonna

589
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: fall off. I don't know. Yeah, by the way, Caroline

590
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: has taken Shack Thompson in the first round and then

591
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: Devin Funchius in the second round. Okay, there you go.

592
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: So they went, they did, They stayed with they had

593
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: they needed. They had a wide receiver need and then

594
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: a linebacker need. Is a third and so they wanted

595
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: to get up and get as close to the third.

596
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: You mentioned Arryl Williams, and I think a guy that

597
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: just blocks out the sun what he does on the

598
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: right side in the run game. Definitely a right tackle

599
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: right and but he's not exactly fleet of foot, but

600
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: the long arms, I mean, he's he can play in

601
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: arms twenty seven pounds. He moves well for a three

602
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: hund and thirty pounder. I mean, he does it. So

603
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: I didn't like him. Here, I liked him. I liked

604
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: him if if he's just gonna play right tackle, but

605
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a swing tackle. If something happened

606
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: with Tyrn Smith, I didn't rike him because he could

607
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: not play the left side. He plays a grown man

608
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: version of the game. It really does. Yeah, next tone, now,

609
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: now saw our next pick. In twenty fifteen NFL Draft,

610
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: the Carolina Pounds would like to welcome PSA I Wanner

611
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: Christopher Stratt all right Chris. With a third pick, up

612
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: the fourth round, number one out two overall, the Carolina

613
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: Panthers select Darryl Williams. There you go, right there. See,

614
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the offensive tackle. They needed a

615
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: left tackle though, I mean, but they really Michael Or

616
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: has been a guy that they've They seem to like

617
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: Michael Or a lot. And Dane, you're not too excited

618
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: about Michael must be watching his old mistape and not

619
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: what he's done watching the movie. Yeah, but hey whatever,

620
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that. But Darryl Williams is

621
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: a good pick here in the fourth. If you're getting

622
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: him outside the top one hundred, you like that value.

623
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: He's a plug and play type. I mean, he's ready

624
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: to go right now, line them up. It's Mike Dallas,

625
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: Dallas suburb. Yeah, it sounds like the Martin kid. They

626
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: signed Jonathan Martin too, didn't they? The Carolina Panthers. I

627
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: I know, I'm asking a lot of quick the Stanford

628
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: to go get my other notebook. I got all that inform. Yeah,

629
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: but but you know, when you talk about the Panther

630
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: said you know that, it seems like to me they're

631
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: they're loading up on right tackles. Who are the left

632
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: tackles on this team? So question that will be the uh,

633
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: that will be the trick to with Carolina. But they

634
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: they traded up to h from Oakland. So Carolina takes

635
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: Daryl Whims Like we talked about Oakland. Will Now, where

636
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: was that pick? I don't even see it here Oakland.

637
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: That's a twenty four. Yeah, the the Carolina pick is

638
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: right ahead of Dallas there at one twenty four. So

639
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: draft draft guru Dane, can I pick your brain for

640
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: a quick secon? We got if we're if we're thinking like,

641
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: like draft guru Bryan over here, is that the Cowboys

642
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: might want a quarterback in the fourth round. He would

643
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: take he would take Petty. Oh Okay, that's not the

644
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm worried about. I want to know

645
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: who on this list of many teams before the Cowboys

646
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: is somebody that might be Well, the Jets just traded

647
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: up to I kind of was thinking the Jets, and

648
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: this is where I think you have to look at quarterback.

649
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they back to back. It's weird to me

650
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: that they would jump trade with Jackson. Well, they wanted

651
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: to get in front of the Jets at one, one

652
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: oh four. So who just traded with the Jets traded

653
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville to Jacksonville, so they have back to back

654
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: picks one four, Okay, whatever you gotta get in front

655
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: of yourself. Yeah, you're saying that doesn't make a whole

656
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Get your guy. Well, maybe I wanted

657
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: to get into of Washington if you want to if

658
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: you want to quarter players that they want. So maybe

659
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: they were afraid of another team trading quarterby that's a

660
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: good point. Okay. I don't see the Jaguars as a

661
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 1: threat to take a quarterback. But yeah, that's a good quarterbacks,

662
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: will be a quarterback, I think, yeah, I think that

663
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: they clearly would have to take Hundley and Pitty if

664
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: you don't be a hell I mean hard knocks to

665
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: New York, right, okay, one of them, Both of them

666
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: are on the board. Who would you take? Think what

667
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: your offensive scheme is? I think I think I think

668
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: that is fair. It depends on who better fits what

669
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: you want to do, and I think both needed a

670
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: lot of work. Both there guys you don't want to

671
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: see on field this year. They might not be ready

672
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: for the field two and sixteen. Um, they you know,

673
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: a lot of work. But at this point I do

674
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: think it's worth it. Despite uh, despite my reservations about

675
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys taking Bryce Petty, I think I would take

676
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty if I was a team in need of

677
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback, which the Cowboys aren't. So we all thought

678
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: though that a quarterback would go early. So getting Bryce

679
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Petty at at the twenty seven was not going to

680
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: be an option, right, I mean I don't think so.

681
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: I mean I was being unrealistic. I put the name

682
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: out there, and I'd go back again to the draft

683
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: two years ago, where the Tyler Wilson's, yet Jones's, the

684
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 1: Nassa went to the Giants. Then all all those picks

685
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: came off the board early in the fourth round. I

686
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: know what the cowboys think, But you think either of

687
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: these guys is better than my boy, Zachy Mets, Oh,

688
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: I would take I would take Bryce Petty over Zach

689
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: Mett And and that's and everything Petty versus Pettenberg. Just

690
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: as far as his ability, I just talk about mobility.

691
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: I talk about smarts, I talk about the ability to

692
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: be accurate. Yes, Bryce Petty, there's too many positive intangibles

693
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: there for me. I think some people missed an opportunity

694
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: in the in the third round. Did Nick slip you

695
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: a fifty? No? And I'm not. I'm just talking about

696
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I watched the guy play against Michigan State, who I

697
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: think is a damn good defense, carved them up. Yeah,

698
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: and they've got they've got a first round corner. They've

699
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: got a potential top five defensive end next year. That

700
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: is a good defense at Michigan State. It is. And

701
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: there's Gary Patterson's defense is really good, right, Yeah, he

702
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: carve this guy when touchdowns And now, okay, West Virginia Hey,

703
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: not so good. You make a good point. You make

704
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: a good point, Brian. I'm just watching the tape and

705
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm watching that. What you're doing is that? Is that

706
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: what you've been doing these lost Some people, some people

707
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: don't watch the tape and talk about this. But we

708
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: won't go that way. And I'm not talking about you, Dave.

709
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean you could. I have not spent a lot

710
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: of time, but I just I just feel like though

711
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: that to me, it's just it's too too good of

712
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: a fit. It's too good of a fit right there.

713
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: So I mean, well, Dane closed the book on Geno

714
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Smith last night. So if that's true, you gotta think

715
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: the Jets want to bring a quarterback in at some point,

716
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: and that's why they brought in Ryan Fitzpatrick, veteran presence

717
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: who can start games. Um and and Bryce Petty. It's

718
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: just take some time, It's see what's alrighty. We're live

719
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: from Atlantic Health Jets Training Center to announce our next

720
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft. But you know,

721
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Jets would like to welcome thirty years season ticket holder

722
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: Danny Junior. It sounds like a Drumpy goss if I'm

723
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: just already kind of tired of this gimmick, like, are

724
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: we gonna do this for every pick to can? Can

725
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: somebody just say it? With the fifth pick of the

726
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: fourth round, number one oh four overall, the New York

727
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: Jets select Bryce Petty A three. Yeah, that's what happens

728
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: when you let an amateur up on the podium. Had

729
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: a trade, and so they have both the one h

730
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: three and one oh four. I wonder if we're gonna

731
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: get a situation here where Jacksonville and the Jets just

732
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: flipped spots, so instead of instead of misinformation there, Yeah,

733
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: I see, I'm all kinds of confused picking back to

734
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: back or no, No, I don't believe they're picking to

735
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: pick back to back here. So I believe that you're

736
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna see it's jaguars. You're gonna see jaguars on the

737
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: clock here on earth. Tell me, tell me did they

738
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: make Having been in that room before, why you've been

739
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: in the jackson Well, But because you think jack Well

740
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was on the phone with somebody else, you worry

741
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: about it. You just go ahead and just say, you

742
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: know what it's willing for us, It's it's okay for us.

743
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what they gave what the compensation, So

744
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: maybe the Jets gave Jacksonville more than the other team

745
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: that wanting to move up. Absolutely, so yeah, I would

746
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: say that they probably so this Jacksonville will be on

747
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: the clock. In fact that one four. Okay. So so

748
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: basically what the Jets were doing is this day began,

749
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: they were in contact with all these teams making sure

750
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: that no other team was going to jump them to

751
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: take Petty. Let me ask you this, Brian, I mean,

752
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: you wrote about him, You've kind of been stumping for Petty.

753
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Do you feel this way about Hundley? I mean, do

754
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: you feel as good? But it's good, it's good, but

755
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: you don't like I don't think he's as accurate as

756
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Petty is. I worry and Dane correct me if I'm

757
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: wrong about this. When I watch Hunley play, I see

758
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: a guy that mechanically has you have to really work

759
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: with him. I don't see a guy that the ball

760
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: snaps off his hand. He's got the arm strength, he's

761
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: got the arm talent. But when you talk about he

762
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: throws at so many different angles and so many different

763
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: way his mechanics to me, never look the same. And

764
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: with Petty. I see the ball, I see by bull gone,

765
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: I see I see that it's the same it's that

766
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: same drop or to take a step throw. I don't

767
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: see that. I see him kind of all over the

768
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: place with his mechanics. Do you think the need for

769
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: someone to compete with Brandon Whedon is strong enough that

770
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: you're taking a quarterback anyway? Or is it all Bryce Petty? No,

771
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: it was all Bryce Petty. Now now it's about Vaughn.

772
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: Now it's about Dustin. You're just wiping quarterback off. Now.

773
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: I think that the last the last year, the last

774
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: quarterback that I would have taken, and I and I

775
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: mocked him, but me Brian brought his personally. Bryce Petty

776
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: was my guy. Okay, And now I'm I'm now willing

777
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: to say I'm willing to walk the journey with with Dustin.

778
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: Vaugh wild thing, Vaughan baby, lace him up and let's

779
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: go and talk to me about Hunley. Then you mean

780
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: you could you could correct me if you want. All

781
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: the physical traits are there, I mean everything that you want.

782
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: That mobility, the arm strength, that the size. He's a

783
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: great kid too. Yeah, but no, you're absolutely right about

784
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: the mechanics. And just there's so much you need to do.

785
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: You really need to overhaul, uh the quarterback there, and

786
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: we have the Jaguars picking. Yeah, here we go round

787
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: draft pick. We are live from the Cleveland or Deck

788
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: at EverBank Field and beautiful Jacksonville, Florida, to announce the

789
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: next pick in this year's NFL Draft is Seth Stouter

790
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: from Greencast Rings, Florida. Thank you, Tony, with the one

791
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: hundred and fourth pick of the twenty fifteen NFL Draft.

792
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: My Jacksonville Jaguars are proud to select James Sample Defense

793
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: him back. Yeah, Louisville, here you go. Good safety there.

794
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely like that pick a lot, right. The Sample was

795
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: one of my guys when you were talking, probably more

796
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: of a strong safety guy than a free safety guy.

797
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: But his teammate Holloman, who's still on the board fourteen picks, Yeah,

798
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: you called a coward about twelve hours I did call

799
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: him a coward. And there's a reason why. Sample. You

800
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: watch Sample play. He's standing on the right hash and

801
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: the ball goes all the way to the left side.

802
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: He crosses Hallaman to get to the ball and he

803
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: makes the tackle. Is this guy? Is this guy plug

804
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: him play? I think so. And he's the guy that

805
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: you can see him playing free, you can see him

806
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: playing strong. I mean, he can do a lot of

807
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: things for you, and it's a wicket hit or two.

808
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: He was a top recruit out of high school, went

809
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: to Washington that didn't quite work Outley knows a little

810
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: about safety play too, if you will recall they also

811
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: drafted Cowboys pet cat Jonathan Cyprian two years ago, so

812
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: he did. Who hasn't really been great for them. He's

813
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: been okay, He's been a little up and down. I mean,

814
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: too early to throw in the towel on Cyprian, but

815
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: sample gives them some good depth and like I said,

816
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: a guy that can play free or strong. So it

817
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: gives them death at both spots. Now, Washington is on

818
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: the clock and the pick is in for the Redskins

819
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: could go a couple of different ways here, though. They

820
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: they've kind of funny the way they they I think

821
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: felt like they took in the first round. They took

822
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: the Giants pick, yeah, you know, with the with the

823
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Brandon Sheriff, Yeah, the Sheriff pick, which looked especially good

824
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: when you consider Crowder jameson Crowdy. He was great at

825
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. He was He's Brandon Cook's light. Washington's

826
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: not participating in the fan guess they don't they're fans

827
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: don't like it. I'm I'm on board with that, you know.

828
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's kind of like your thing

829
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: when we do the draft show. It's like, Hi, thank you,

830
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: we're great. What's your question? Like, don't ask me how

831
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: I am. Just make the pick. I love so Chicago.

832
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: This ought to be a production. Chicago is making the

833
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: next pick. Yeah, there's no doubt they're gonna bring whoever

834
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: that is right up to the stage that. Yeah, they're

835
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: gonna have a parade for this guy. It's gonna be awesome.

836
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: So what players do you have in mind for the

837
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys in the fourth round. Let's make a list of

838
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: three or four that you would like to see fall

839
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 1: to fit a Cowboy need or also just the best

840
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: player that you could defer to the gurus. Go for Dave.

841
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: You can say, you know my answer. It's been my

842
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: answer since he was a second round pick. This is

843
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: my dude, and he's been my dude since probably mid February. Right,

844
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: Who is that Jagie? Yeah? I and you know he's

845
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: got the knee issue. It's bone on bone. You don't

846
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: know how long he's gonna play, and I just don't

847
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: care because he's healthy. Right now, here's Chicago, all right,

848
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: here we go, abarras fans. What the seventh pick in

849
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: the fourth round? Number one oh six overall? The Chicago

850
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Bears have selected Jeremy Langford, running back, ran back off

851
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: the board. That's a guy. A lot of Cowboys fans

852
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: have had an eye on that guy. I think I

853
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: build an answer questions. Dave's right about a gie. I

854
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: think you have to look at potentially we had Rod

855
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Marinellian here early. Does Michael Bennett fit that tech at

856
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: one technique three technique player with some flexibility right there? Shaw?

857
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I know they drafted a corner in the first round,

858
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: but do they go back? Josh Shaw again wrote about it.

859
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at all if they double up

860
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: on corner in the I agree, and I'd like I

861
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: like Shaw as a pick. Nuna's Roaches was a guy

862
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: that you asked a question about about the inside the town,

863
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: right and Hayden and so forth. Grady Jared's been a

864
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: guy that I've liked exactly. Grady Jared it's still available now.

865
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: They take from Marinelli's answer on that as far as

866
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: their need at that, I feel like that he would

867
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: take whoever they He would coach whoever they put out

868
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: there for him to coach. But uh, you know, I

869
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: didn't get to I know they like Nick Hayon a lot.

870
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: But I also know talking to some guys talking to

871
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: some coaches, that they would like to to potentially upgrade

872
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: and Atlanta's pick is going to be in But I'd

873
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: like to believe that they would like to get They

874
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: liked Terrell McClain a lot, but would they would they

875
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: also though, consider though, trying to get another young guy

876
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: in there that has some sideline to sideline ability. And

877
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: you know I don't have a Bennett. You watch him

878
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: in the National Championship game. You know this guy is

879
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: there was some some a little bit of underachieving tendencies.

880
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: Am I write there Dane about him? But the conversation,

881
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: but justin Hardy is the pick of it land of

882
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: the wide all time leading receiver and FBS history the

883
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: most catches. But no, You're right about Michael Bennett over

884
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: the first ten games of Ohio States schedule. Really underachieved,

885
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: but down the stretch he was outstanding against Wisconsin, against

886
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: against Alabama, he was He's one of the stars for

887
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: that Buckey's defense. But there is some up and down

888
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: play and there are some questions about where do you

889
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: play him. To me, I thought he was a three technique,

890
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: but I think some other teams disagree in the cmore

891
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: as a one or a nose. Well, again, it's the

892
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: flexibility we've talked about. If the guy, if Dane sees

893
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: the guys a three, you know, there's some teams and

894
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: he's right. Some guys I've talked to thought he could

895
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: play the one. So if that's the case, if you

896
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: got a guy that's got that kind of ability and

897
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: played big time football in some big time games at

898
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: the end of the season and was productive, I think

899
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: you have to consider that. Let me ask you this.

900
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a great debate for where

901
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are right now. You've got guys on the

902
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: roster who can play defensive tackle, but you feel like

903
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: you could upgrade the position. You got guys on the

904
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: roster who play running back, but you feel like you

905
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: could upgrade the position. So what do you mean, what's

906
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: the bigger what's the need that you feel better about

907
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: addressing with one of these things? To me? It to

908
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: me if if I know all bets, it's all bets, Rof.

909
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: They should take the runner. I agree they should. They

910
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: should take just a simpleton though, Yeah, I just kid.

911
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: The kid is from here, you know, I mean it

912
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: could be here, and I know, I know it's a

913
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: great story, but the kid is a damn good football player.

914
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 1: He is a damn good football players. Knees healthy, playing

915
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: the third or fourth running back off the board, there's

916
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: no doubt. And Dane took a lot of crap when

917
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: he said that there's teams concerned about the knee, and

918
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: he and his agent reached out, and he's and and

919
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: and you know what, the guys is locked in. He

920
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: knew exactly what he's talking about. But right now, in

921
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: the fourth round, if he's still on the board, you've

922
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: got to take him right talk about getting Randy Gregory

923
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: at sixty. I mean, this should have been a top

924
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: fifty or sixty pick. There's no doubt about it. I mean,

925
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: you you if you're and I've said this so much,

926
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: but then again, we've been doing this for six hours

927
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: a day. If you're if you're gonna use a guy,

928
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: take a runner for four years or five years and

929
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: just go Yeah, fullback is off the board. Oh the

930
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: Alabama Tennessee, Tennessee still hit you? So India Indianapolis is

931
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: on the clock thinking of blocking, getting some blocking first,

932
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: Bishop Sanky. Yeah. But to finish up my point there,

933
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, if he's on that board, you've got it.

934
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: You've got to do that, don't I mean, Okay, let

935
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: me ask you this. It sound like I'm begging. You're

936
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the fourth round. Do you trade

937
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: up for a guy whose health you can't guarantee? Or

938
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: you just let him fall to you? And what happens?

939
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: I just got to assume that he's fallen this far,

940
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: you think. But I mean that there's twenty other teams

941
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: that are maybe thinking the same way, because maybe twenty

942
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: other teams that have him off the board, right, that's

943
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: a thing. And and every team that maybe needed a

944
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: running back took it running back earlier in the draft.

945
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: That's true. I mean that a lot of those I mean,

946
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: Atlanta was a team that you're not worried about them

947
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: taking a running That's what I was trying to think

948
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: there any other of those who with key running. Atlanta

949
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: addressed it, Cleveland addressed it, Yeah, Arizona. Miami hasn't addressed it. Detroit, Detroit. Yeah,

950
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm kind of leary about this number. This this so Miami.

951
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: I think Miami traded out of that pick. Actually, I mean,

952
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: what's in Indianapolis doing here? They could use a runner

953
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: or maybe Miami still has Miami still has it at

954
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: one fourteen, I could see Indianapolis here. That's another I

955
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: think Indianapolis goes defense here. I have a hard I

956
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: just have a hard time believing Jayagi. He's sitting there

957
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: at one twenty seven. We're at one o nine. We

958
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: sat there and we thought a lot of guys were

959
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna be But see, we feel good about it here.

960
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: And now I got to imagine there's two or three

961
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: other teams that feel the same way. That's I mean,

962
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: that's Colts could use Colts could use a quarner. The

963
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: pick is in for the Colts. Yeah, they could use

964
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: they could use a corner here. But yeah, you're right

965
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: about the running. Yeah, maybe another one. Yeah, I mean

966
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: that that's a defense. We saw firsthand, that defense. Remember

967
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: how how when that defense didn't have the corners. It

968
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: was a little, oh my gosh, a little shaky that

969
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: that was the Cowboys just owned them. For lack of

970
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: a better term, I think they're gonna take a defensive

971
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: player here myself, but I to get back to to

972
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: I think you're willing to gamble because of the potential

973
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: of a lot of teams having him completely off the board. Okay,

974
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: here's the Colts pick, Kobe Flainer test. Yeah, this is

975
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: just the worst Kobe Fliner making the pick here. Okay,

976
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: go ahead, Kobe. Yeah, you're Stanford grad. All right. He's

977
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: waiting for a queue apparently selection on location in Indianapolis

978
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: to announce a pick in a twenty fifteen NFL draft,

979
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts would like to welcome eighteen year season

980
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: ticket holder Roger Banner. So what we going, Bush? Yeah,

981
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: what you're there for? With the tenth pick of the

982
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: fourth round, number one hundred and nine overall, my Indianapolis

983
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: Colts select Clayton Gathers, defensive back University of Central Florida.

984
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: Clayton Gathers Central Florida A good player. He'll hit you.

985
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: He's a strong safety, really physical player, and he was

986
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Did a nice job there, a

987
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: four year starter. A lot to like about this player,

988
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, that's what those kids said. They've done a

989
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: really nice job at Central Florida. Yeah, putting players in

990
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: this league and Georgia O'Leary. I mean, maybe those kids

991
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: don't get to go to Florida State or Florida, but

992
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: it seemed like original Leary and those guys that put

993
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. I know, Blake Bortles, the jury

994
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: is still out of him. I think I think world

995
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: will be fine. I bet they play with an edge though.

996
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: You think about there, Oh yeah, I mean three big

997
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: college football programs in Florida. You're probably feeling kind of

998
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: undervalued if you wind up playing for UCF. Yeah. I

999
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: totally agree with you on that. Sixteen picks away from

1000
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys pick a well, actually we're seventeen picks away

1001
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: one twenty seven the Cowboys pick one way right now.

1002
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: We've been talking about how at some point TJ. Clemmings

1003
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: is Yeah, it's another one to me in Minnesota. Yeah,

1004
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: Minnesota is on the clock. We've been talking about Jaii

1005
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: at some point he's worth it. Well, here it is too.

1006
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: It looks like that Minnesota is in, here we go.

1007
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: We are live from the Vikings News Stadium Preview Center

1008
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: to announce the next pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft.

1009
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings would like to welcome Leslie Singer, one

1010
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: of the nine fifty dedicated workers currently on site. It's

1011
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: going to help build the iconic new Vikings Stadium. With

1012
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: the eleventh pick of the fourth round, number one tenth

1013
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: overall in Minnesota, Vikings select t J. Clemings. Yeah. At

1014
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: some point, you know, it's just you take a gamble.

1015
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: Dane kind of knows what he's talking about sometimes, So

1016
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: who is it? Get lucky you see? Tell us about Clemmings.

1017
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: As far as left tackle, right tackle? What is he?

1018
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: He's only played right tackle, so I think that's the

1019
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: most comfortable Holts replacement. Yeah. Conceivably he could play some

1020
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 1: guard too, So I think the Vikings need a left guard.

1021
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: He could potentially fight for that starting job right away,

1022
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: and then right tackle could be his long term future. Um,

1023
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: but I think most people know his background was a

1024
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: defensive player. His entire life was actually a basketball player.

1025
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: Went went to football, started on defense and then his

1026
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: uh the bowl game his sophomore season so late in

1027
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: a sophomore season, moved to tackle. Then the last two

1028
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: years you just saw him get better if every game, Um,

1029
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: he's just so physical with his hands, he just a

1030
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: uses defenders. Now, he does have some lower body stiffness,

1031
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: and there's some things you worry about. He was exposed

1032
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl a little bit. I think that's

1033
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: where teams are really soured on him. But the reason

1034
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: he's still available in the fourth round is that stress

1035
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: stress fracture in the foot, and we'll have to see

1036
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: how that plays out. This could end up being a

1037
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: steal for the Vike. I'm torn between whether I think

1038
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: they just got away with highway robbery or if there's

1039
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: something terribly wrong with this guy. That's the reason why

1040
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: you I mean falling, if you're if you're considered a

1041
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: late first round talent and you fall. I had him

1042
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: in the first round, I had him in my top fifty.

1043
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean the fourth round a round though, you'll take

1044
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and take the medical work Cowboys get with

1045
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: Chris Canty ten years ago. Right, we're talking about a guy.

1046
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: We're talking about a draft excuse me, where someone who

1047
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: tore his ACL three months ago went twenty one overall. Yeah,

1048
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: So it's I mean, and I mean a cl has

1049
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: come so far in the last ten or fifteen years.

1050
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: It's just I mean, you would I mean, when you

1051
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: hear stress fracture, you think, oh, he'll be fine by September,

1052
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's what I think. Yeah, because

1053
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: they throw another name out there, speaking of medicals, then

1054
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: Efo ekpre Olamo, the cornerback from Oregon in his ACL

1055
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: that was preparing for the Rose Bowl. He if had

1056
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: he not been hurt, he'd be perhaps a first rounder,

1057
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: he'd be off the board bind now right, and so

1058
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: have you what have you heard about the severity of

1059
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: his knee injury? And is he somebody that you would

1060
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: go ahead and take a flyer on here in the

1061
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: fourth Now I've heard it's not good. Yeah, it's uh,

1062
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: it's it's not your typical Yea. That's the thing I

1063
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: think fans, you know, we hear about the ACL. We well,

1064
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: Girly had the ACL in November. He was a top

1065
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: ten pick. Well, all these all these injuries exactly, they're different.

1066
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: There's different tears, different rehab. Every knee responds differently, and

1067
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: so with Efo you have a player that you just

1068
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: hate to see it. He was healthy his entire career

1069
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: and then the practice before the Rose Bowl damages that

1070
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: knee and you just worry about when he'll be able

1071
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: to help you out in the field. Is it susceptible

1072
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: to another injury? So for efek Parolamu, we might hear

1073
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: his name later today, but I'm worried about for just

1074
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: for him, how many teams actually have him on the board. Yeah,

1075
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: if he's not picked, especially in these middle rounds, it

1076
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: shows that, Okay, there's not a good medical on him.

1077
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Trade Jackson is the pick of New England. Here offensive

1078
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: guard Florida State. Yeah, before I get to trade Jackson,

1079
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: which just from a mind everybody, we've got the you

1080
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: could see we're being on camera right now. We will

1081
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: go to war room cam as soon as they determine

1082
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: that they're ready for us to participate, for us to look,

1083
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: they say, for us, they're probably talking about some things.

1084
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: Are watching these names come down the board. They're actually

1085
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: brawling there. Yeah, they're just blood blood being shed. But yeah,

1086
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: as soon as the cowboys feel comfortable, they'll flip that

1087
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: cover and we'll go into war room cam. But trade

1088
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: trade Jackson. Pick I like to pick for New England.

1089
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: Right there, you talk about a tough brawler, brawler. And

1090
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: then right behind him though another one, Washington takes a

1091
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: Quando from from Alabama, the older brothers. Yeah, Quanji who

1092
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: was a second rounder last year to the Buffalo Bills. Uh.

1093
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: He also had some knee issues. Something in the Quanjo

1094
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: family running through the family. But a good player started

1095
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: more than a few years for Nick Saban squad down

1096
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: there in Tuscaloosa. Uh. He's a player you can see

1097
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 1: making an impact right away. So I think that maybe

1098
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: tells you they do intend playing sheriff outside taking a

1099
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: guard in the fourth Well, we knew they were they were.

1100
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: We knew that they would have to do something with

1101
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeah. I mean that's something that when

1102
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: we when when they went on the clock at five. Yeah,

1103
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: we we thought about all the different potential players they

1104
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: could take defensively, and it was like, no, their offensive

1105
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: line is horrible. All right, let me ask you this now,

1106
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: looking back at what they did in the second round,

1107
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: they took Preston Smith with a thirty eighth overall. Pick

1108
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. So Washington could have taken Leonard

1109
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: Williams at number five comeback with a guard in the

1110
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: second round. AJ can whoever right be? What do you

1111
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: what do you make of what their decision to go

1112
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: ahead and go with Shurff first and then come back

1113
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: with Preston Smith essentially the same position as Leonard Williams.

1114
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: I had suff Id Surff as a guard. I didn't

1115
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: have him as a tackle, and now they're thinking different. Yeah,

1116
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: and now they're thinking about playing him at right tackle

1117
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: is what they're thinking about doing. So you know, I, Hey,

1118
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: that's people see these players differently. I would not have played,

1119
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: sure if at right tackle, but I think it's on

1120
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: the talent of a Leonard Williams. Yeah. But what's the

1121
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: difference between Leonard Williams and Preston Smith? Oh? A lot,

1122
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean a lot. That's where I'm thinking. But it's

1123
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: but let me ask you this is is Preston Smith

1124
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: a better fit into three four? I know the Jets

1125
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: took Leonard Williams. You know it's a three fourth scheme.

1126
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Where do you I don't see Preston's I just like

1127
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't really know they took Preston Smith to play

1128
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. I don't really see they listed him if

1129
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 1: remembers an outside linebacker in my mind, and you guys

1130
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: are the gurus, you correct me if I'm wrong. Keep

1131
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: saying that, but keep going. Preston Smith's sounds like a

1132
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: better fit for Dallas, and Randy Gregory sounds like a

1133
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: better fit for Washington. If you're just looking at scheme,

1134
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah no, unless you're you're projecting Preston Smith to be

1135
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: a defensive five technique, which I mean that I would. Well,

1136
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: that's a good point, but it sounds like they expected

1137
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: to play linebacker, right, Well, they listed him as a linebacker,

1138
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: and usually when you know he in my evaluation him

1139
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: was always and we talked about on the Draft show,

1140
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: butch a guy that could play defensive in and kick

1141
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: inside to play a Yeah yeah, Nicol Rusher. Yeah maybe.

1142
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, in this day and age, though,

1143
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: it almost I mean, it's so flexible and so fluid.

1144
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you see teams put different guys, you know,

1145
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: you have some teams will have like two guys with

1146
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: a hand on the ground on a given play. You know.

1147
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: So flexibility I feel like is at an all time

1148
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: high in the NFL defenses. But it is certainly puzzling

1149
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: to me. Troit is on the clock. This pick has

1150
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: been traded numerous times. Number one thirteen. Yes, uh, they

1151
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: do you have bill? Who they went, who they got

1152
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: to before? I'm talking Detroit detroitson a guard in the first,

1153
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: Afdulah in the second, Alex Carter cornerback in the third.

1154
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: They haven't addressed the defensive line position. Oh there we go,

1155
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: Gay right. Yeah, I was trying to think about Yeah,

1156
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: that guy, that's a shame. Yeah. I was up and

1157
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: down on Gay right. Yeah, both those Auburn heap was

1158
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: up and down. Yeah, both those all those Auburn defensive

1159
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: tackles in my book. You know, I'm thinking, Okay, you

1160
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: look pretty out there running around. Do something. He kicked

1161
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: some guys butts at the Senior Bowl. That's really I

1162
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: mean that, that's your experience. Yeah, gabright was a a

1163
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: top recruit and he never really lived up to that hype.

1164
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: But you saw the flashes, and I think that's why

1165
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: you take him here in the fourth round. You want

1166
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: to you hopefully get those flashes, turn that into consistency. Okay,

1167
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: my auntie's up now, and might it be a running

1168
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: back running trouble spot. That's what you gotta worry about

1169
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: right here with the running back for sure. So I mean,

1170
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: and you know, we were having this conversation last night

1171
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: and the night before that we thought they were you know,

1172
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: if the Rams hadn't taken Gurley at ten, you think

1173
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: maybe Gurley goes at fourteen to Miami. Thought Tevin Coleman

1174
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: and Duke Johnson might be targets down there. Duke Johnson

1175
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: would have been great for them, he wouldn't have had

1176
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: to move, but any and then back to back Cleveland

1177
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: picks coming up here. It is. It is interesting. And

1178
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: like you said, Brian, I mean, you know, a Gie's

1179
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: definitely a guy that comes to mind, But you don't

1180
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: know how different teams treating, you know, view that injury,

1181
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: whether they think it's something worth taking a risk on,

1182
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: whether he's off the board entirely. I just think that

1183
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys, you've you've made your bed. Now, yeah,

1184
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: you've you've you've made your bed. It's I want JAYGII

1185
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: to be on this team. I'll just be on. I

1186
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: want that to happen. But I don't know if you

1187
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: trade up the other much you consider as far as

1188
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: a running back goes would be Baltimore at one twenty two.

1189
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: It's Pesky Ravens. I feel like I've been scaring me

1190
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: all draft weekends sitting up there, and we've seen something

1191
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: though here. It's kind of also pick at one twenty five,

1192
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, it's we've seen something here though, a little

1193
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: bit of run at guards. If you look at the

1194
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: if you look at the guard. You know people we

1195
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: always talk about, well traditionally you don't take guards, but

1196
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: here are people using fourth round picks. Uh, Trey Jackson, Quanjo.

1197
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: Three of the last four picks have been no line. Yeah.

1198
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: So I mean it's it's smart from the standpoint that

1199
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: typically third round is an eventual starter. Fourth round. I mean,

1200
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: what's the mindset maybe if you get to take a

1201
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: guard in the fourth round and ken, Yes, so we

1202
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: got four room camp Kent Garrison's gonna flip it over.

1203
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: So everybody dressed down for Saturday except Jason Garrett. He's

1204
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: still gonna tie on, still rocking the tie. Yeah. Well,

1205
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: and you know it's, uh, this is important though. This

1206
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: is a Jamil Douglas is the pick of mother guard. Yeah,

1207
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: another guard. They list him as a tackle. He was

1208
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: a guard most of his career. Moved out the left

1209
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: tackle as a senior, but I think he's his futures

1210
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: in an inside and guard. Yeah. That was a guy

1211
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: again too that I felt like that anything in space

1212
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: was problematic for him. And that's why you talk about

1213
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: playing him inside. He needs play inside close quarters. That's

1214
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: his best. Best At the next level, where this cat

1215
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: play college football? Arizona State Sun Devils. Yeah, Lauren Socle's

1216
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: favorite team. As we look in the now, she's given

1217
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: you that you're the number one sign. She has a

1218
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:27,479
Speaker 1: hearty laugh at not thumbs up. Not ab uh, Dane,

1219
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: you've been This pick belongs to Cleveland one fifteen. You've

1220
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: been there all day long with Cleveland. Do we start

1221
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: talking about quarterback? They were interested in Bryce Petty. You

1222
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: tell me, yeah, you haven't missed it. Tell me well,

1223
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean Brett Hundley is a player. They've done some

1224
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: work on UM and with two picks here, it wouldn't

1225
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: be surprised if one of these is a quarterback. But

1226
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: they need a receiver too. They've avoided the receiver position.

1227
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: We thought they could go receiver in the first round.

1228
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: UM have not taken receiver yet, and they've loved their

1229
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: draft side. Yeah, they've had five picks. They've taken Danny Shon,

1230
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: cam Irving, Nate Orchard, Duke Johnson, and Xavi your Cooper. Yeah,

1231
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: pretty solid. You feel like all those guys are any

1232
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: more defense? You feel like a defense there? Yea. How

1233
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: do you like your secondary corner? Yeah? But safety, safety, corner,

1234
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: safety either one? Interesting? I don't know. I mean it's

1235
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: they went high last year with Justin Gilbert in the

1236
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: first round. Ten. Yeah, yeah, safety is a position. I

1237
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: would not be shocked if they go here because the

1238
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: free safety Gibson uh has a knee injury. They don't

1239
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: know long term what's his future? Looking like, safety's a possibility.

1240
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: I think the best player on the board right now

1241
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: is Amos Grady Jarrett versatility with with Amos, a player

1242
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: that played corner played safety. Yeah, I mean, I'm how

1243
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: about the Smith kid? Maybe, and we were talking about safeties,

1244
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: but I mean, I I don't know. I don't know

1245
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: that Grady Jared fits with the brow. No, I'm not

1246
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: saying for Cleveland. I'm saying Bills. Bill's being a Dallas

1247
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: cowboy homer. Right now, we're trying to work the guys,

1248
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: the scouts are working the draft, talk about the draft.

1249
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Me and Bill are just gonna be like, what's going on?

1250
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: They trying to move up the board. I'm trying to

1251
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: get a damn Do you know Atkins went in the

1252
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: fourth round? We got Geno Atkins sitting on the board

1253
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: here in the fourth round and Grady Jarrett and uh

1254
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: but just setting the scene there. Yeah, you talked about

1255
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: the corner, I mean linebacker, maybe Browns. The Browns could

1256
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: go anywhere here. They need help in a lot of space,

1257
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot of area. But you're saying, you're thinking maybe

1258
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: right now, are you acting dumb? He knows, No, not

1259
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: at all. He knows. I don't know how to do.

1260
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: He knows. The problem is when you keep hitting their picks,

1261
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: get asked a lot of questions. This guy, yeah, this guy,

1262
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a player yea, yeah, this

1263
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: is the long snapper. With Manzel at quarterback, they'll need

1264
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot of Yeah, they'll need a good punner. But actually,

1265
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: if they turned the ball over, maybe nothing. May not

1266
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: need a punter at all. With man Zella. But she

1267
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: did talk about receiver there though. I mean a kid

1268
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: like Green Green, my boy, mcbron, Oh, here we go.

1269
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh good that. Uh have a coach on NFL network

1270
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: right now who can talk about Campbell. Campbell to me,

1271
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: Campbell was the Landing Collins of the Big Ten, A

1272
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: physical strong safety. Uh, he'll hit you now in coverage.

1273
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: I you know, good luck. I don't think he's gonna

1274
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 1: be able to hold up. I always saw him around

1275
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage again, and they tried to play

1276
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: him back and it took him forever to get to

1277
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: the linshoot. But he will come for I mean when

1278
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: stuff's underneath, he seems to be real fine, right, But

1279
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: anything there was to see it, right, Yeah, when when

1280
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: the ball is going over the top or or he

1281
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: has to help on the outside, I really didn't see.

1282
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: I see he's more of a strong safety kind of

1283
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: a player myself. No, I think you pegged him exactly right.

1284
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: That's what's what he is. Now. You love the character

1285
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: with the player. Um, the resumes outstanding. He did miss

1286
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: a few games as a senior with an injury, but

1287
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: a player that there's so much alike about him. Uh,

1288
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a solid special teams guy. And then

1289
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: event you see him working into the starting lineup, probably

1290
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: not in year one, but by year two he'll be

1291
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: competing for a starting job. All right, do you take

1292
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: Brett Huntley here? And if you're taking who might be?

1293
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: He was on the blockhold back to back pick. I

1294
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: was gonna say, if you took the quarterback after the safety, yeah,

1295
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: you would think if you're a quarterback, you're gonna take

1296
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: him first. Get our guy. It looks like they flipped

1297
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: it here. Yeah, arizonas on the Arizona's on the clock.

1298
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: I can't keep up with any of this stuff. Arizona

1299
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: is now on the clock. Arizona took their running back

1300
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: last night, so not really Arizona. Yeah, let's see, there's

1301
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: a good Arizona's from. I mean he's from Arizona. Here's

1302
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: the Browns, Cleveland Browns of Eaton, Eaton, gonna go Browns

1303
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,479
Speaker 1: fans for the sixteenth pick of the fourth round, number

1304
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen overall to Cleveland Browns select Abraham Campbell,

1305
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: defensive back from Northwestern. We think of those new uniforms.

1306
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not digging him. I don't know how.

1307
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't like the word. I don't like Cleveland on

1308
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: this chest. It's the only only Jersey that has such

1309
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: a very collegiate it's different. It is different. It's it's

1310
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: not it's not terrible when it when it came out

1311
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I like, Um, I like

1312
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: the all white one by the way, as Arizona is

1313
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: on the clock, and they took David Johnson and running

1314
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: back from northern Iowa, and that's iron round. I love

1315
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: David john That might be the first who's that state?

1316
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: Delaware State A player that really moved up as the

1317
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: process went along. Uh, the Chiefs, I know, shut showed

1318
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: a lot of interest in him. Um, and the Cardinals

1319
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: actually moving up to get him. Interesting for like half

1320
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: a second, I thought Dane was stumped, and then well

1321
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: he's a player I looked at. But I didn't write

1322
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: him up because I wasn't. I didn't necessarily see a

1323
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: guy he's got to be a defense. Yeah, he's not

1324
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: looking at more of a five technique here. Yeah. But

1325
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 1: he worked out really well, moved up throughout the process,

1326
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: and so a little surprised to see him here this

1327
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: early in the fourth But I did think he would

1328
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: get drafted because his name just kept popping up the

1329
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: last few weeks. By the way on Arizona and picking

1330
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: David Johnson in the third round yesterday. Of course it

1331
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: was five picks ahead of the Cowboys pick at ninety one.

1332
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: I did get some intelligence here, A source tells me

1333
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: he was in consideration for the Cowboys at ninety one

1334
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: and the coaches loved him. Who's that David Johnson? I

1335
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: think I think that if him or Duke Johnson had

1336
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: still been there when they picked, I think they might

1337
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: have gone that direction. Hard to argue with getting Ah, well,

1338
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. And today we haven't talked about

1339
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: Chads green who didn't see last night, Poor Chaz green Man.

1340
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: You know, just nobody is gonna be all right, no starter,

1341
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: I like, I like to pick a lot. But the

1342
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: excitement and the controversy not controversy, but there was a pick.

1343
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: The interest around the Randy Gregory pick definitely overshadowed an

1344
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: offensive line. Oh there's a tight end. Yeah. The Bell,

1345
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: the Bell Doozer is headed to San Francisco, Francisco. I

1346
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: gotta my uh my daughter is like best friends with

1347
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: Blake Bell's girlfriends. I've got to pause for a moment

1348
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: and send a text, send a text message. Get He joins,

1349
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: Trey Millard, by the way, former Oklahoma fullback on the

1350
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: San Francisco roster. Good friend and build those all where

1351
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: all the OU players are. You can ask him any

1352
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: OU players, He'll tell you what NFL team they're pight.

1353
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 1: So I need to go ahead and send these texts.

1354
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, but talk talk about though. Again, he's a

1355
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 1: big guy, though, but he's got a lot of athletic ability.

1356
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: As far as I saw him catching the ball pretty well.

1357
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: He's a working progress. Yeah, he's a project. And there's

1358
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: some some talented tight ends on the on the board

1359
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: with Jesse James, Michael pruittt Ben Koy. Yeah, I really

1360
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: liked Sack. There's some talented guys. So but the forty

1361
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: nine ers jumped those guys to take the project and

1362
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: it might pay off. For Blake. Bell was a highly

1363
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: recruited quarterback and you know what, he just couldn't find

1364
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: the field except for those bulldozer packages where he would

1365
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: run over guys not use his arm. He went to

1366
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: the coaches and said, hey, I want to see the field.

1367
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: Let's try me at tight end. Great makeup and so right, yeah,

1368
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: he wants he knew for his long term future and

1369
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 1: to find the field. He probably had chan he's got

1370
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to make it as

1371
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: a tight end in this league age, and he's the

1372
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: son of a former NFL player. He can he play

1373
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: in line though, I mean problem one of the scouts here,

1374
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: that's the problem is his ability to block in ace.

1375
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: But he's got the frame. He's six six. Let me

1376
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: and and thank you for bringing that up, Bill, because

1377
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm curious about. Am I thinking? Am I

1378
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: thinking too collegiately here to think this is a guy

1379
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: who's got experience taken the snap? I mean, did you

1380
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean goal line running back. I know his position

1381
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: would be tight end. This is a guy yeah, I

1382
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: mean camp. I mean I would put if you're on

1383
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: the one, I would send in the jumbo and just

1384
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: put this guy in shotgun and have him. Teams finally

1385
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: figured it was direct snap and go, and then teams

1386
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: started saying, well, we're not gonna let you do that.

1387
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: Team than it was him doing anything and out his scheme.

1388
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: Then it was I would just I would have to

1389
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: give that guy a shot. It's coming. Anything can be

1390
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: your scout team quarterback, Yeah, for sure, for sure. Oh

1391
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: I bet he'll be playing some scout team quarterback. When

1392
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: now when the Chargers play the Panthers, I bet you

1393
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: that Kansas City's on the clock now. And uh and again,

1394
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: his dad played in the NFL. Was a fourth round pick.

1395
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: His uncle was the second overall pick. And so he's

1396
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: get it in his jeans too. So I'm happy to

1397
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: see him. Was a fourth round pick Kansas City Chiefs.

1398
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: Here my buddy John Dorsey, and this is the Cardinals.

1399
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: The Cardinals traded up in front of the Kansas City

1400
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: to get that Della Delaware Valley State. Yeah, defensive tackle.

1401
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: That that's why they had traded up to get him.

1402
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: That they knew the Chiefs wanted him. And so for

1403
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: Meek Wilson, one of my favorite players, and I have

1404
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: him on my board in the fifth round. And I

1405
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: will say this about him though, I mean, I saw

1406
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 1: one of my favorite I've got a lot of players,

1407
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: but it's gonna you watch him and this Herrera kid

1408
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: play at Georgia. This kid is a junior, led the

1409
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: SEC and tackles and he is he is, Yeah, he

1410
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: is all over the field, and I loved him. I

1411
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: had him as a guy we want of the mock drafts.

1412
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: I actually mocked him to the Cowboys as a run

1413
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 1: hit linebacker, but he he was. He's got the dreads,

1414
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: he's he's always flying around plays off block. I mean,

1415
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: a little bit of an undersized guy. But I love

1416
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 1: the way the guy ran. I love the way he

1417
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: kind of was sneaky, the way he got some through

1418
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: the cracks, but he when he saw the ball, he

1419
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: was there. He's gonna be a secure tackler. The coverage

1420
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: stuff they're gonna have to work on a little bit.

1421
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: But as far as the guy that run hit and

1422
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: get the bulkcare on the ground, that was my guy.

1423
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: Fantastic segue. I mean, we talked about d Tach, we

1424
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: talked about running back. Linebacker is a spot. I mean,

1425
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: you you feel probably good about your first two or

1426
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: three guys there, but I mean, and we know that

1427
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: they were interested in linebacker and in the first and

1428
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: second round, so you figure maybe you don't feel great

1429
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: about the overall. I mean, is that a consideration here? Well,

1430
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: feel good about anybody though. I mean, they've got numbers.

1431
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of numbers. They got a lot

1432
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: of numbers, but that but who can you upgrade the numbers?

1433
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: Can upgrade. How's your depth? Look, Ronda mcclean's on one

1434
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: year deal, on Lee's and never healthy. So I mean,

1435
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: is there a guy here that's in this range? I wrote,

1436
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: I wrote about a guy that I like, but I

1437
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: and I have him in the fourth round, and that

1438
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 1: would be a Damon Wilson. Wilson from Minnesota. I'm gonna

1439
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: say the same. Yeah, I think that's yeah. He is

1440
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: an inside guy. He's an inside guy. You could play cousin. Yeah,

1441
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: Mary Nelly, mary Nelli talked on the fourth and one

1442
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 1: in the fifth. There you go. You know, it's interesting

1443
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: when Mary Nelly was talking about though, looking at those

1444
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: weak side linebackers like Anthon absolutely versatil we can play

1445
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: all three. And that's one of the things too. I

1446
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: think even when they were looking at a McKinney versus

1447
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: a Kitchens in the in the first round, Um, all right,

1448
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: they're even though Shuntley's moving to the wheel right now,

1449
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: he can possibly move back to the middle of the

1450
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: absolutely if he would, he would, If if anything were

1451
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: to happen to mcclan I would have seen exactly. But

1452
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: if you're drafting a guy who could be an eventual

1453
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: starter next year the year after, who's more of a will?

1454
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: You have that versatility there where Sean could move back inside.

1455
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be the most stunning development in the world.

1456
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: When we talked about it might have been Shack Thompson

1457
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. He had still been there, that's right,

1458
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: although they may have played him in sub packages his

1459
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: rookie year and where with the idea that he'd be

1460
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: the will next year after if McLean wasn't here. Andrew Denal, however,

1461
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: you say his last name was headed from Saint Louis.

1462
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: The quote unquote other tackle at Iowa this year, a

1463
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 1: player who four consecutives time Academy of Country Music and

1464
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: four time Country Music Association Entertainer of the Year, Guy

1465
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney. Tonight, Kennedy's a fan. He's he's a fan

1466
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: of every It's too part of his twenty fifteen tour, Kenny,

1467
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: It's my turn. Yes. Well, the with the eighteenth pick

1468
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 1: of the fourth round, number one hundred and seventeen overall,

1469
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers select Blake Bell todd

1470
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: In from Oklahoma. Here we go. So there's the official announcement,

1471
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: the news that we gave you moments ago. Oklahoma's Kenny

1472
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: Chesney's favorite team except for Wing's rooming for Tennessee are

1473
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: the Saints. The Saints. Yeah, him and Sean Payner pick

1474
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 1: a team, Kenny, come on, Yeah, to get back that

1475
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 1: we talked about don ell I watched it was going crazy.

1476
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: Someone's going crazy, I talking about Donnelle. I really okay, Oh,

1477
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: helmet we go. It was a hellman's helmet was left

1478
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: on the computer and that was causing that. David doesn't

1479
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: think professional broadcasters. And then there's David Helmet. There's I

1480
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: will say this though about Donnelle, and you watch again

1481
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: when you watch Iowa tape. Uh, this guy I thought

1482
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: he was. People used the word serviceable. I think he's

1483
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: better than that. As a right tackle. When they were

1484
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: running those stretch plays, zone plays, there were games where,

1485
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, Wisconsin, Nebraska, he was getting outside and hooking

1486
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: his man. You know, it not always gonna completely wipe

1487
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: somebody out of the play, not gonna just blow somebody

1488
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: off the line. But when you talked about a guy

1489
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: that would get on his block, stay on his feet,

1490
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: get some push, allow the back to make a cut,

1491
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: Andrew Dunnelle was a guy that I really I thought, Hey,

1492
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: if you to me, he looked more athletic than the

1493
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: Wisconsin than Haverstein, right, I mean, and I know they're

1494
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: both kind of, you know, brawler kind of guys. I

1495
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: used the word brawler, but when I always say that,

1496
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: when you don't have you're not very athletic. But this

1497
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: guy did a pretty good job. I thought of finishing blocks,

1498
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: not being on the ground, not flopping around some you know,

1499
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna get real close to you on pass protection.

1500
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: He's not gonna let you, you know, not gonna extend

1501
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 1: on you and really sit down on you, but he's

1502
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: gonna get into on, tight on you, try and hold

1503
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: you off the play, and you know him. Sheriff and

1504
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: Danelle were in the same recruiting class and for Sheriff,

1505
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: he saw the field very early and obviously he flourished,

1506
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: and for Danelle he waited his turn. He did not

1507
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: start until his senior year, was the starting right tackle,

1508
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: started all thirteen games. Uh, he does it. I don't

1509
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: love his punch. I don't There's a lot of things

1510
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: that he needs to work on, but again, he really

1511
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: takes pride in his technique and the player that he

1512
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: is so of the work ethic, love the attitude. I

1513
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to really compete for snaps here early

1514
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: in his career. Yeah, all right, Cincinnati is on the clock.

1515
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: The pick is in for the Bengals again. Jaya Jaii

1516
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: is still sitting there for the Cowboys, who are seven

1517
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: picks away one twenty seven. Baltimore has two picks and

1518
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: they have a running back need. Prior to the Colborn

1519
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: and then and the Ravens have had a history of

1520
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: finding ways to spoil things in a draft room every

1521
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: once in a while, so be alert for that. To

1522
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: me in the Bengals have now got their pick in.

1523
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't surprised me. Maybe I don't know they've I'm

1524
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 1: just gonna trying to make a guess here. I mean,

1525
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: if you're talking about best players on the board, guys

1526
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: like you know Bennett, you know he's an Ohio guy. Yeah,

1527
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: so you know, would they go that route and another

1528
01:19:55,240 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: geno Actings and Grady could go secondary here und number

1529
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty overall, our Cincinnati Bengals select Josh Shaw.

1530
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: Here we got another guy the Cowboys like, Yeah, Josh Shaw.

1531
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: That was a guy I wrote about today it's one

1532
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: of the go ahead and yeah, as as the as

1533
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: one of the ghost guys. If the Cowboys were going

1534
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: to go for another cornerback and a guy that potentially

1535
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: could be again position flex, Dan talk about him maybe

1536
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: playing some safety too if you had to. But you know,

1537
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: with the and with with Josh Shaw, you wonder what

1538
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: could have been if you know, last summer he does

1539
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: not have the incident where he jumped off a balcony

1540
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: evading police at his door, and then he lies about it.

1541
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: And you know, it's not so much the fact that

1542
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: the reason he's still available in the fourth round not

1543
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: so much because of the lie and that incident, but

1544
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: it's the fact that he injured himself. He put himself

1545
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: in that situation, and he had he played in three

1546
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: games as a senior. He didn't have any senior tape

1547
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: for scouts to look at safety. Is he more of

1548
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: a safety? I think it's really split depending on who

1549
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: you talk to, because he has the makeup to stay

1550
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: at corner, but he looks like a safety. And so

1551
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 1: where do you like him better? When you scouted Brian,

1552
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he could play corner myself. I thought,

1553
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: is that his best position. I think it's his best position.

1554
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: I tell you what, the guy. I like the way

1555
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: he moves, I mean, the way he gets up on

1556
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: he turned. I think he could play off coverage too.

1557
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: Drive on the ball. I think he sees the field

1558
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: pretty well. And I think he handled the aftermath of

1559
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: his incident in the lying and so forth. He he

1560
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: actually spoke at the USC graduation ceremony and so I

1561
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: thought that was admirable about him. Dorian Grant, quarterback Ohio

1562
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: State goes to Pittsburgh. Dorian Grant. Another announcement here from

1563
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: Dorian for the Steelers pick of the fourth round, number one,

1564
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: twenty one overall. The Pittsburgh Steelers selector Rand Grant, defensive

1565
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 1: back from a high state. There was another corner along

1566
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: with Josh Shaw that the Cowboys could have had their

1567
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: eye on if they fell Um. And you know Dorn

1568
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: Grant coming from northeast Ohio. I mean, I keep my

1569
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: eye on these guys. And uh, he's from same high

1570
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,799
Speaker 1: school Lebron James is from UM. It was a top recruit.

1571
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: He goes to Ohio State and it probably didn't do much.

1572
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: And now as a senior again he stepped up and

1573
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: he was a part of that defense that helped with

1574
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: the National championship. But a player that's well rounded. But

1575
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: there's just not much you really get excited about. So um,

1576
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: I think he's the type of player that you see

1577
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: the traits, not necessarily the production. So Steelers there with

1578
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: the getting him in the fourth round. I don't see

1579
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: a player that plays to his measurables. No, he doesn't.

1580
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: I see a guy that team guys receivers pushed this

1581
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: guy around. He's got He's going to a team where

1582
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: he better learned to be tough. You know, he better

1583
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: step up or Dorrin Grant is not going to be

1584
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: very long for this league. And I'm with you so

1585
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: so many times it looked like he was going through

1586
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 1: the motions and just, uh, you know, doing the minimal

1587
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: and so he needs to play above what he can

1588
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: do in orders down the field. Okay, Bill if I'm sorry, Dave, Yeah,

1589
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones being on the fields, be on the field,

1590
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: be on the phone. Uh, they were looking Jerry Junior

1591
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: was had walked all the way over to the right

1592
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: side of that board. I don't know if you can

1593
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: see Jason Garrett's looking in that direction. That would be

1594
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: the sixth and seventh round area. Maybe they were, Uh

1595
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: I was looking at pick Look, seventh round picks, I

1596
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: don't have any value. Yeah, well, you know they's you know,

1597
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: they're kind of smiling about it right now. It might

1598
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: be a deal that someone called and said, hey, listen,

1599
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: we'll flip you this for that. It wasn't a very

1600
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: long phone call. No, but Jerry and I don't know

1601
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: if we could get it on the camera completely, but

1602
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: Jerry Junior is walking, he's looking around at the picks

1603
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: and stuff. Good, good opportunity to just kind of around. Yeah,

1604
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: for everybody. You know, sometimes you hear from readers like,

1605
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: deal your seventh rounders for this, Well, both of the

1606
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: Cowboys picks and the seventh round or worth a combined

1607
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: four points. Uh so, but if someone really wanted somebody,

1608
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 1: they could you could exchange it, like if you sure

1609
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys wanted to get into sixth round or exactly something exactly.

1610
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: I mean, really, they don't have a fish. They don't

1611
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: have a sixth round pick. They do not, and so

1612
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: it could be a situation where a team to whatever

1613
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: the team values that pick. As Sure were worried about

1614
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: he got the Ravens up this was a selection. We

1615
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: were worried about it. Sure is terrified is actually the

1616
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: word that I would Here we go with here, there

1617
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: we go with the twenty third pick of the fourth round,

1618
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: number one twenty two overall, the bottomore Ravens select Zadarius

1619
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith. There we go. We're not on camera, but

1620
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: I just fish pumped the other pass rusher from Kentucky.

1621
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: But Bud Dupre was on one side, says Darius Smith

1622
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: was on the other. Uh. Interesting backstory with he was

1623
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: a basketball player and you know, closer to the end

1624
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: of his high school career, he kind of understood, you

1625
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not going to be an NBA player,

1626
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: so let's try football. Goes to JUCO level after two years,

1627
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: then goes to Kentucky and he he bypassed some other

1628
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: SEC offer SEC offers to go to Kentucky. I'm still

1629
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: learning how to play the position. But you just look

1630
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: at him, he just looks like an NFL player. Oh

1631
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: he does look like an NFL player though, And there's

1632
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: times where you're like, going, he's playing better than Buddy Pree.

1633
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about I think I think

1634
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: he does a really nice job. The best thing I

1635
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: saw about him was how physical he is at the

1636
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: point of attack. I think that's something Bud Dupree is

1637
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: a an athlete. This guy is a hit you get

1638
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: off the block, chase to play, get you on the

1639
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: ground kind of guy. So that's for guy to last

1640
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 1: in the fourth time, that's about where he needed to

1641
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: be selected. Yeah, maybe late third, probably early fourth. So

1642
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: I think that's excellent value here. You know we had

1643
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: some movement there or you know Cleveland is picking. Oh ye,

1644
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland's got more of a running back need than what Arizona.

1645
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: They just took that right. Here's the interesting thing to me,

1646
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: and you know, there you go. He was one of

1647
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: the top receivers left on the board. So it's a

1648
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 1: good pick for them. Vince Mayo talk about him just

1649
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, because I did not see Vince Mayl play.

1650
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: You didn't like him or you didn't I didn't. I

1651
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: just tell me about him though. I mean what you

1652
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: saw on the player, A good sized player at six

1653
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: two to twenty five. He interesting background. Uh, he was

1654
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 1: a basketball player and then he decided to go to football.

1655
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: I started at the JUCO level, goes to Washington State.

1656
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: Really productive. He had over a hundred catches last year,

1657
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: uh for the Cougars. And so I think you have

1658
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: a player that he reminds me a lot of DeVante Parker.

1659
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: He's not quite as talented, not quite as gifted, but

1660
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: that type of style and that mold. And so if

1661
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: you can get uh we talked about Jamison Crowder being

1662
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Cook's light. Well, this is what Vince Maylee is.

1663
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: He's DeVante Parker light. Uh, not quite at that level,

1664
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: not quite as gifted, but that style of receiver, size, athleticism,

1665
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: plays up to his size consistently to overwhelm defensive backs.

1666
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: And you know, we're still what, we're still four three

1667
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: picks away from Dallas at right now, but here is

1668
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: here and you know, obviously I've made no secret about

1669
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: the fact that Jagiu is my guy. But at this point,

1670
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you feel, I'm feeling pretty good that a

1671
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: guy there they like is going to be there, though,

1672
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, whether whether Barrett is still there. Um, your

1673
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: your boy from Minnesota, Damian Wilson. Yeah, So it seems

1674
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: like they're gonna have a guy that they like there

1675
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: to choose from. It might not be the running back,

1676
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: but they should have an opportunity to pick someone they

1677
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: feel good about at at a position of need too,

1678
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 1: because whether it's linebacker, whether it's defensive tackle. I just

1679
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: once again I think they're all. You know Jerry Jones.

1680
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: You see the war room, he had at straw in

1681
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 1: his mouth, and I guarantee he is chopping on that too,

1682
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: because I don't want to jinx it, but this is

1683
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: kind of the third day in a row where playing

1684
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: the waiting game has kind of worked in their favor.

1685
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: I mean, to this point, it's it's working out. You

1686
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: might have just chinked it. Well. We got a wooden

1687
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: table in here that I just knocked on. Got Oakland, Baltimore,

1688
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and then Dallas. It looks like that maybe

1689
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: as your Tampa is now on the clock at this

1690
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: pick at one twenty four, So the Oakland Raiders backed

1691
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: out here. This is Tampa's pick. Now. I feel like

1692
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: Oakland Tampa's been dealing all over the place in this draft.

1693
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,919
Speaker 1: Let me look up, Tampa. I got somebody in mind tackles.

1694
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: They haven't had a pick its second round, Am I

1695
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: right on that? I don't believe. I'm pretty sure I

1696
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: don't think Tampa Bay has taken a defensive player in

1697
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 1: the draft. They've got no, not just this year, but thirteen.

1698
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: Could you could could this be been it? Could this

1699
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: be a guy to play Lovey Shirt's uh, Lovey Smith's scheme,

1700
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: play the one, play the three. Kind of a guy

1701
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: just look at the end. The other day. They got

1702
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: a ton of defensive linemen on their roster, but play Yeah,

1703
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: Henry Melton's one of them. Yeah, that's true, any of them.

1704
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy we know can play right, Yeah, very well,

1705
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: he can play some football. Um canna be on my

1706
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: team anytime. But you are right, it's been it's been

1707
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: two offensive linemen in a quarterback. There's what they have

1708
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: on their defense. And they just picked up George Johnson,

1709
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: a defensive end who was a restricted free agent from Detroit.

1710
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: Pick is in. Yeah, William Goldston, you got a team, Spence,

1711
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: Clinton McDonald, Henry Melton, d tack will make sense here.

1712
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: I like I heard yesterday, linebackers that can run. They

1713
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: haven't taken any defenders this year, which means the last

1714
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: time they took a defender was late in twenty Ump bump,

1715
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 1: All right, ls, you guys tell us about and where

1716
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: is he is? An athletic son of a gun. Yeah,

1717
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: they an inside linebacker. I mean Bruce Carter. They said

1718
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: Bruce Carter is gonna be their middle linebacker. I think

1719
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: and Brian you're you're the you're the tape, But I

1720
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: would think that Kwan would play Will Lavante David's playing

1721
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Will for Yeah? Well that well, I mean is he

1722
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: I mean you're not drafting him in the fourth round

1723
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: to be a starter, though, are you? Probably? Are you

1724
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play Mike linebacker? I mean he's I

1725
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: mean he's fast, it's a strong side. Yeah, he's a

1726
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: fast guy. I play him at Mike. Okay, yeah, because

1727
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: David David's gonna play though he's he's not a he's

1728
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: not a bulky dude. No. But but the run hit again,

1729
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: in this scheme, you gotta have guys that run hit

1730
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: and and that's something you know when even though some

1731
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: of the blitzer I thought he was a really good blitzer. Yeah,

1732
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: myself watching the tape and and yeah, I mean he's

1733
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 1: he's he's athletic. He is an athletic guy. So I

1734
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: mean they'll find a spot if he's gonna If he's

1735
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: gonna play Mike, then the fact. I mean he can

1736
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: get from sideline to sideline. You're like, you better than

1737
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: Bruce Carter. Oh, that's tough. I like Bruce Carter a

1738
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,719
Speaker 1: lot when he wants when he's playing, well, the problem

1739
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: is that that's only like half the time. M But

1740
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you probably, I mean, not gonna play Bruce

1741
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: and Mike. Okay, you're the Ravens are on the clubs.

1742
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: They were saying when they when they signed him, they said,

1743
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 1: he's our middle linebacker. That is the one spot he

1744
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: never really tried out here. Four let's say fourth round.

1745
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: We got two picks before Dallas Baltimore in San Francisco. Yeah,

1746
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 1: pick his in for Baltimore Baltimore. We we've sweated this pick.

1747
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Don't do me like this Ravens. Yeah, well it'll be

1748
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 1: interesting because again they they're they're it's funny. Their team

1749
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: needs seem to be the same as the Cowboys. They

1750
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: just brought four setback. I know. I mean he's thirty

1751
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: thirty one. I know he's not a spring chicken. Oh

1752
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: they took that's fine. That's a very good chance that

1753
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: could have been picked one twenty seven. It could have been. Yeah,

1754
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: I know, they like him. Well, it doesn't like to

1755
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: me in the war room, they're they're, they're they're talking

1756
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 1: about the board right now. They're over there all focused

1757
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: in on it, uh, seeing exactly it would be left,

1758
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, the heck baches, Yeah, nudge for we need

1759
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: a running back. Yeah, let's get a running back, physical

1760
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 1: running at too. Yeah, this kid go get him. I

1761
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: mean if he has sent back still on the board.

1762
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: To me, the fourth round has always been the round.

1763
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 1: This is I'm like I said earlier, I mean, this

1764
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: is equivalent and it's a little different because I mean

1765
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 1: it's it's injury, but I mean it's this is a

1766
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: lot like getting Randy Gregory at sixty. You never thought

1767
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: he'd be there. This There any other running backs that

1768
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: they would like at this point, Mike Davis, buck Allen

1769
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: off the board. I would say it's a Stephen Stephen

1770
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: steps excited about something. So it's either I mean it

1771
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: would I would say Mike Davis or or um Ji

1772
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: would be the top two left. I know Cop is

1773
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 1: probably still there somewhere, but probably not in the fourth round.

1774
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 1: They looks like to me, yeah, they they're they're they're happy.

1775
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: They sweated. Oh wait, okay, well maybe maybe our Minnesota guys.

1776
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: This might be Damon will This might be Damien Wilson

1777
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: is what this might be? So uh uh breaking my

1778
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 1: heart Cowboys. Yeah, I might be too much for them

1779
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: to uh to even uh take right, I mean again,

1780
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: he just keeps going down the board, down the board,

1781
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: down the board. And hey, the medical side of it.

1782
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: Did anybody believe Jerry Jones when he said running back

1783
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: was not a muth Yeah? Anybody? I didn't, I know,

1784
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. Well, here we are. Yeah, well

1785
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see. I mean again, they're shaking him.

1786
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: Nobody's on the no, Yeah, they got they got him

1787
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: on the phone, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry's gonna go first here,

1788
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: and so we're we're guessing Damian Wilson. Yeah, especially with

1789
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: the lineman unless we're missing somebody here. By the way,

1790
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: Mike Davis went to San Francisco to pick previous to

1791
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Dallas two straight running Raskill before Dallas, which is on

1792
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: the clock on the phone with their pick. Right now,

1793
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have made their selection, and I and by

1794
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: with with Matt Eberflus being on that phone, I think

1795
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: that we're probably pretty accurate and saying that Damien Wilson

1796
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: is going to be this guy, the linebacker from Minnesota,

1797
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: and we talked about him, Dane. I mean you can

1798
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: give a good scouting report on him as well. Yeah,

1799
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: a player, a juco guy, goes to Minnesota and starts

1800
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: the last two years in the middle and junior year,

1801
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: senior year. Okay, he caught my eye. A player who

1802
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 1: lost some weight, amped up the focus and really showed up.

1803
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,839
Speaker 1: He's one of the Big Ten's best players this past season.

1804
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: On defense, you just you love the way he's active.

1805
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: He directs traffic, pre stamp. It's a restuff for my report.

1806
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 1: Diagnosed skills to attack and finish. Aggressive play gets him

1807
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: in trouble at times, but he's well rounded, physical temperament

1808
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: that fits what NFL teams are looking for at the

1809
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 1: position mike most likely you want him inside. So six

1810
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: foot two five, Yeah, he's six foot two forty five

1811
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 1: ran a four seven seven forty yard dash. A guy

1812
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: who I graded him as more of a backup, but

1813
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: the type of player that's going to push your starters

1814
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: for playing time. And this would mean that mcclean's your

1815
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: starter right now. We'll see what the future holds for

1816
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: him in Dallas, but if he is a starter here,

1817
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: we got stadium to announce our next pick. In a

1818
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 1: two thousand, fifteen NFLCAFT the Dallas Cowboys would like to

1819
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: welcome sponsor Representative Michael Stockton. Thank you. With the twenty

1820
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: eighth pick or the fourth round number one hundred and

1821
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: twenty seventh overall, the Dallas Cowboys select Damien Wilson, linebacker.

1822
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: Minnesota pick Yeah, Amy and Wilson. And you know, if

1823
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, my heart breaks for Jji E. But if

1824
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: you move past that, uh, you know, like we were

1825
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 1: talking about maybe ten fifteen picks ago, this is not

1826
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 1: that surprising when you consider the Cowboys needs. When you

1827
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: talk about you know, they looked at Shack Thompson the

1828
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: first round. We talked about Eric Hendricks as a possibility

1829
01:35:55,360 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: all spring. I mean, yes, linebacker looks relatively set for

1830
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: the time being. But I mean it's not like you

1831
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: can exactly trust Sean Lee's injury history. Rolando McLean is

1832
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: on a one year deal and has an injury history

1833
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 1: of his own. Yeah, and then you know, you factor

1834
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 1: in the fact that they don't have a great candidate

1835
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: for Sam. I don't know how Damian Wilson plays into that,

1836
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: But it is something to consider. It's you know, this

1837
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: was a This was a spot that I'm not surprised

1838
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: to see them address. Like I said, I am a

1839
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 1: little bit of surprised that we have made four picks

1840
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: here and there is no running back, but I'm certainly

1841
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: not surprised that they had a linebacker. Well, I'll tell

1842
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: you what, and you gotta trust Mattieberflus last year he

1843
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: has earned it. After last year he brought you. He

1844
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: brought you Anti Hitsum, handshakes all around. And if I

1845
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 1: could just kind of piggyback on what Dane was saying,

1846
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: this guy plays with a burst. He can cover some

1847
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: ground when he chases a ball, wrap up tackler. Uh,

1848
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, I think he needs to be on the move.

1849
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 1: He finds a way to split double team blocks and screens,

1850
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: can really change directions, awareness and knock the ball down

1851
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: to coach. He's a quick footed player, quick reactions would

1852
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: make every single way if he wasn't held. That was

1853
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: something I saw. Special player when it comes to getting

1854
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 1: to the football, makes plays all over the field. There's

1855
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: no way he plays to his forty time. I said,

1856
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: and we had a forty time of a four seven

1857
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: nine that this kid is a much faster football player.

1858
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,799
Speaker 1: He's an aware football player. They should be very excited

1859
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,879
Speaker 1: to have a guy like this one hundred and nineteen tackles,

1860
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: ten point five for lost, four sacks, one pick, three

1861
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: pass breakups and a forced fumble last year for the Gophers.

1862
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: And Damian Wilson went to the NFLPA game and he impressed.

1863
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 1: I think what his performance there that week really helped

1864
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 1: him as well. Young guy doesn't turn twenty two until

1865
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: next month or this month, later this month. Um, you know,

1866
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 1: and there's a reason Minnesota was much better. Yeah, playing

1867
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten this year. I mean they played

1868
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: a decent game against TCU. Um, yeah, they were in

1869
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 1: a bowl game. I mean they they they've got a

1870
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 1: they this is not your Yeah, Minnesota has done a

1871
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: much better job recruiting. Oh, you know, they had the

1872
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: kid from Atlanta, the defensive tackle that they've had, some

1873
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: guys that Max Williams tied in. It was drafted. If

1874
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: you would have told me that, you know, Damian Wilson

1875
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,919
Speaker 1: would go before David Cobb, I would have been surprised

1876
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: a little bit. I thought David Cobb would be off

1877
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,679
Speaker 1: the board first, but nonetheless a good linebacker here in Dallas.

1878
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 1: And to Chaz Green was he he was a visit. Yeah,

1879
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 1: all four Dallas picks have been guys that were in

1880
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: Valley Ranch at some point this spring, because I know

1881
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: as recently as a week or two ago, I saw

1882
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus and Damian Wilson kind of shooting the breeze

1883
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 1: getting to know each other here at Valley Ranch. So

1884
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: this is a guy. You know, when you get into

1885
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: this part of the draft and you're hearing names that

1886
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: you're not necessarily familiar with, these this is These are

1887
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: calculated decisions these guys are making. When you fact, when

1888
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 1: you talk about all four picks are guys that they

1889
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: liked enough to bring here get to know and see

1890
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: what they were all about before they added under the team.

1891
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: And John Feliciano is the pick of Oakland here. I remember,

1892
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 1: I remember how and you know, if you guys watch

1893
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: more Tepe than I do. But I was thrown for

1894
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 1: a total loop by the Anthony Hitchins pick last year.

1895
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: It seemed way too early, It seemed kind of to

1896
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: be out of left field, and we all know that

1897
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 1: hitch had had a pretty decent rookie season, play in

1898
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: all three linebacker spots last year, So based on the

1899
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: track record from last year, it's hard for me to

1900
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 1: knock the pick too much. But like I said, I mean,

1901
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 1: you know, if you had told me on Thursday morning

1902
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 1: that we'd be sitting here at pick one twenty nine

1903
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys wouldn't have a running back yet, I

1904
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 1: would I would say that would surprise me. Yeah, but

1905
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to argue with the four picks that

1906
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: they have made though, in my opinion, based on need,

1907
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 1: based on the value you get for him. Yeah, a

1908
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 1: lot of names to at linebacker now, and but do

1909
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: you know there there if you get a good problem

1910
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 1: to happen when you consider the injury problems at linebacker

1911
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 1: it has been. But if you get guys like a

1912
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: Damie Wilson, you get a guy like Anti Hitchins, those

1913
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: cats that can really run, you know, and can get

1914
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: to the football and play in the game, and you know,

1915
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: and cover a little bit cover ground. That's that's those

1916
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: are the traits you're looking for right now. This is

1917
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 1: a it's a crowded core right now. I mean, that's

1918
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 1: a crowded room when you figure, I mean, McClain and

1919
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: Lee are your two that you figure to be on

1920
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: the field from as often as possible. But you have Hitch,

1921
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,839
Speaker 1: you have this guy, Damien Wilson, You've got Andrew Gashcar

1922
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: who came in in free agency. Keith Rivers gets completely

1923
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 1: forgotten about former top ten pick. Not I mean it

1924
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 1: certainly hasn't lived up to that building during his career,

1925
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: but he has shown flashes of production during his career.

1926
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 1: Jasper Brinkley was Jasper Brinkley was another one who came

1927
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 1: in before McClain was back in the fold, so you

1928
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 1: figure they gave him a look at Mike Well and

1929
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: then you've got yourth and Cam laws Lawrence. But Cam

1930
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a guy that you know. I think that

1931
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: now when you start drafting guys like this, then Cam

1932
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: Lawrence becomes a guy that gets replaced Cam Cam Lawrence

1933
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,719
Speaker 1: and Keith Smith or maybe maybe not long for the roster,

1934
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,440
Speaker 1: but hey, that's what training camps for, right, Yeah. Absolutely,

1935
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: And what I like about this if if indeed this

1936
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: pick turns out and Dabe Wilson is able to make

1937
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 1: the transition to the NFL and become an eventual starter

1938
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: as you're leaving Shawn Lee as the will linebacker. It's

1939
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: not moving back inside. I mean it. And like I said,

1940
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like a position of need for twenty

1941
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: fifteen because you feel good about your top two guys,

1942
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: but neither one of them has a pension for staying

1943
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 1: on the field for very long. And neither one of them.

1944
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Uh well, Lee's under contract for a little while, but

1945
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: but Rolando McClean is obviously on a one year deal.

1946
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,640
Speaker 1: So you know you this kind of gives you a

1947
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: little bit of a clearer picture going into the next

1948
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,799
Speaker 1: two or three seasons as opposed to just twenty fifteen.

1949
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: Green Bay is up next, and yeah, do you have

1950
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: anybody running back in the fifth round or later that

1951
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: would be a prospect? Well, it's cold to see ji

1952
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 1: how that? Yeah, I mean that's still gonna be a

1953
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 1: wild David Cobb. What about Damien Wilson's cousin? Get we

1954
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 1: get both Minnesota guys? Story for US writers once you

1955
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: get into the fifth, sixth, seventh rounds, I like, I

1956
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 1: like the kid from North Dakota State, John Crockett, Oh yeah,

1957
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 1: he talk about a motor that never quits. That mouth

1958
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: never quits too. He's a he loves to talk green

1959
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: based in how do we and you know we taught overall.

1960
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders select John Feliciano, guard from Miami is

1961
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Yeah Felicianos, you just root for him. He's

1962
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: a self made player. Um it really came from nothing

1963
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 1: and built himself into put himself into a viable starter

1964
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: at the college level. And here he is a fourth

1965
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 1: round draft pick. Can play guard, can play tackle. I

1966
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 1: really like his versatility. The Packers got a good person

1967
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 1: and a pretty good player too. Yeah, he tried the Raiders.

1968
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: Packers on the clock. Now their their picks about to

1969
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 1: be announced. Ted Thompson always my old buddy there. Uh.

1970
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: He likes big ten type players. He likes this tough guy.

1971
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: And we talk about the Packers and what they've done

1972
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 1: with you know, they have to deal with the players

1973
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 1: that live in that environment, understand the cold, playing the cold,

1974
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: and that's when you when you start talking. It looks

1975
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: like here they're they're whooping it up here a little

1976
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 1: bit here at the at the at the lambeau Field.

1977
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Let's see what they got. Fifteen NFL Draft. The Green

1978
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:31,680
Speaker 1: Bay Packers would like to welcome Robert mckennie of Milwaukee,

1979
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Wisconsin with the thirtieth With the thirtieth pick of the

1980
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 1: fourth round, number one twenty nine overall, the Green Bay

1981
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Packers select Jake Ryan, linebacker from the University of Michigan.

1982
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 1: Speaking of a physical, big ten linebacker, Jake Ryan, Jack Ryan.

1983
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 1: There we go. Did you see? Uh? You see Jason

1984
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Garrett's affectionate butt slap for Will McClay. There highlight of

1985
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: our coverage today. Very nice, very nice. So Uh, I've

1986
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 1: been told that that Matt Eberflus is going to come

1987
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: in here and just a minute, and I will exit

1988
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: when he comes here, and I'll can talk to him.

1989
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: I need to I need to go eleven and suffer.

1990
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: We've been we've been getting the picks on the air here.

1991
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I wonder is Damian Wilson going to be joining us? Well,

1992
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure that our talented team in there will let

1993
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 1: us know if that, in case is going to happen. Uh,

1994
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 1: we're running. We're almost to the coming up on the

1995
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 1: end of Yeah, we're coming up. Well, we're coming on

1996
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: the end of the picks that can be traded. This

1997
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 1: will be the last one the New England. Excuse me, really,

1998
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 1: you got Seattle left and in New England that can't

1999
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 1: be traded with all uh, with all due respect to

2000
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 1: the seventh round gyms that that exists in the NFL,

2001
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: we're uh, you know, entering the fifth round, the last

2002
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 1: um the last really meaningful pick that the Cowboy I mean,

2003
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 1: you don't think of seventh rounders as difference makers. Obviously

2004
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: there's a reason their point values are so low. So really,

2005
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and and the Cowboys don't hold a sixth

2006
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: round pick, So heading into the last big pick of

2007
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: this draft for the Cowboys before they have you know,

2008
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: two shots at seventh round guys, heading into the end

2009
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, barring any any movement up

2010
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: or down from the team. But that's where where we're standing,

2011
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: with what six more picks to make in the fourth round. Yea.

2012
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 1: And where you're standing at the running back position right

2013
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 1: now is Joseph Randall, Darren McFadden, Lance Dunbar, Ryan Williams, which,

2014
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 1: like I said, hey, maybe the Cowboys weren't bluffing after all.

2015
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan Williams second round pick in twenty eleven.

2016
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 1: By by the way, Randall has been basically totally cleared

2017
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: from the You're from any illegal wrongdoing. When the police

2018
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 1: out here in OTA's is Randall taking the first team

2019
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 1: snaps out here at running back, Oh, it's I think McFadden.

2020
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 1: We run dmc all. I think I think McFadden. I

2021
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: think they're gonna make They're gonna make Randall. They're gonna

2022
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: make Randall earn his spot on and he absolutely should

2023
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 1: have to. Ye. I think that's only fair. Yeah, I

2024
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 1: believe we've got coach Eberflus right now, So I'm gonna

2025
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: bail out. Okay, gonna take my headset here. Okay, thank

2026
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: you very much. Bill, special treat for us to add

2027
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 1: Eberflus the linebacker coach slides in. This would be the

2028
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 1: man who is the linebacker whisperer in who is looking

2029
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: very very happy with the team owners. Yeah, and coach, congratulations.

2030
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 1: First off of grabbing Damian and Wilson, and talk a

2031
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: little bit about and I and I've had the great

2032
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: fortune to bump into you and even in the parking

2033
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 1: lot of the hallway, and and you've been nice enough

2034
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: to always ask ask him answer my questions. But talk

2035
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 1: a little bit about Damian. I mean, I love the tape.

2036
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: I love what I've seen the player, but I know

2037
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 1: you have to love him even more. Yeah, I mean,

2038
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: here's a lot of good things to like about this player. Um.

2039
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 1: You know. Number one is his motor. He likes he

2040
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: plays the game in the right way, So that's what

2041
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: we look at and we want to make sure he

2042
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: does that. And then the movement skills he has, we

2043
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: like those things in turns on the tape. You know,

2044
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: he's able to play in space, and as you know,

2045
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 1: the college game is that way. In the programs that

2046
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: way a lot too. Uh. Nowadays, you know, eighty percent

2047
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 1: of it's going to be an eleven personnel. We're gonna

2048
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: be in Nickels, So he has to be able to

2049
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 1: fit into that will and Mike spot um in our

2050
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:18,560
Speaker 1: defensive scheme. Um. But he does all those things, you know,

2051
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 1: And then you know, the last thing is you know,

2052
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 1: for him be able to learn the scheme and be

2053
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 1: able to fit into those things in terms of what

2054
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 1: we have in our room already. So we're excited about

2055
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: him his future and I can't wait to hit for

2056
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,839
Speaker 1: him to get here. This might as well be twenty fourteen.

2057
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we go into the fourth round and the

2058
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys get a workman like, oh, take it all day,

2059
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 1: he can do it. What I mean, can you obviously

2060
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 1: really successful rookie season from Anthony Hitchins? How does how

2061
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 1: does Damien relate to it? To hitch And I mean

2062
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:50,600
Speaker 1: I start I feel like there's got to be some

2063
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of bomb between those guys given the similarities there

2064
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: and how they can play off each other and help

2065
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: the depth in your linebacker corps. Yeah, I mean, you

2066
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 1: know those guys are They're similar in some reguards, in

2067
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: different and in a lot of ways. But you know,

2068
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 1: I think what you look at when you bring a

2069
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 1: guy in and I always do this as I keep

2070
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 1: an open mind when I look at the whole group

2071
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 1: every single year, you got to kind of wipe it

2072
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:14,799
Speaker 1: clean and say, okay, now let's look at these guys

2073
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: separately and then look look at him collectively and how

2074
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: do they fit together. So his ability to play the Sam,

2075
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 1: the mic and the will positions, you know, who's up

2076
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: for the game. That's really big for us as an

2077
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 1: organization because now the combinations are more you know, it's

2078
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: not like, oh, he's only played Sam. Well, then the

2079
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 1: combinations aren't as good if you've got a guy that's

2080
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:38,759
Speaker 1: got versatility. Now we got like we had in Saint Louis,

2081
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: who we have opened for the game. Yeah, exactly what

2082
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 1: we had. We had Hitchens, right, we had Bruce, and

2083
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: then we had we had wilbur Yeah, those are the

2084
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: three guys that were really up for the game. You know,

2085
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 1: the combinations was there? You know, we're there And did

2086
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 1: we played that that great during the game. No, but

2087
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: we made some plays to win the game. You yeah,

2088
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, so we made a few plays to win.

2089
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm talking about. You gotta have versatility

2090
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: and that's this young man brings that to us. And

2091
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,799
Speaker 1: one thing I loved about Wilson watching him, it's passion.

2092
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: I hated to come off the field. He'd tough his

2093
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 1: way through injuries. Um. Is that something that you know,

2094
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: maybe could see a big presence on special teams as well,

2095
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 1: even as a rookie. Yeah. I mean, you know, Rich

2096
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 1: and I are always working together because you know, we're

2097
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 1: we're on the same page of what we're looking for.

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01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 1: We're looking for athletic players that have, you know, some

2099
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 1: size to him because I think in special teams you

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01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 1: need some size to anchor on the punt team and

2101
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: to take on the blocks on the on the kickoff

2102
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 1: return and all those types of things and and you

2103
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 1: know bully type of you know blockers and get off

2104
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: them on the kickoff and those those things that Rich

2105
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: likes to talk about. But and the same thing is

2106
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: really for me. You know, he has to build it.

2107
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 1: He has a he's a longer, longer armed guy. You know,

2108
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: he's like thirty three inch armor coach to that, and

2109
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 1: he can do a good job of really extending. Now

2110
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 1: he hasn't been doing that in college, so that's one

2111
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: thing that we're going to need to work on with him,

2112
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of using his length and separating.

2113
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 1: But that's a skill that can be taught and a

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01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 1: skill can he can enhance and improve on just because

2115
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: of his frame of his body. Yeah, thirty three and

2116
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 1: three quarters in charms, So he definitely has the length,

2117
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, versatility is the key, and I

2118
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: know you just we're talking about that. But for a rookie,

2119
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 1: I mean, is there a spot that you like him

2120
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: the best at starting out, especially with the amount of

2121
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,640
Speaker 1: older guys above him on the depth chart right now?

2122
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 1: Just getting his feet went yeah, I mean, it's hard

2123
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 1: for me to say that right now. Let's take a

2124
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: look at him, Let's bring him in and we'll see

2125
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 1: where he fits into the group. But he's certainly going

2126
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 1: to be a big, a huge piece of that Coach,

2127
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. And then I'm still

2128
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 1: in a similar players, I know you're excited about having him.

2129
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 1: You've just done a great job with all these linebackers.

2130
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: Every week it's like who's up, who's down, but you

2131
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 1: put everybody out there plays their ass off and that's

2132
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:47,640
Speaker 1: a credit to you and the guys you have. So

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01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 1: thank you very much, Joins, thanks for having me. Thank

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01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 1: you very much, coach. Okay, do have said player here?

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01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Damon Wilson, the newly drafted linebacker from the University of Minnesota. Damon,

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01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: welcome first off here with Ryan broad Us and David

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01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:05,799
Speaker 1: Hellman and Dane Brugler from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Welcome

2138
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you, thank you, well good Hey.

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01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:15,560
Speaker 1: We just had coach Mattie Reflus on and you know

2140
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 1: he was talking about all the versatility you have and

2141
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 1: all of us have had the opportunity to watch you

2142
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 1: on tape to really study you, and it's very impressive

2143
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:27,640
Speaker 1: your ability to get to the football. The way you

2144
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 1: may plays this group in Dallas is the same way

2145
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 1: with coach he Reflus talk about though, you know, coming

2146
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: in here and getting an opportunity to play in a

2147
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: scheme where it really it highlights those things that you

2148
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 1: do very well. I mean, I'm very lucky to be

2149
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 1: have been got drafted some of Dallas Cowboys. I'm playing

2150
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 1: such a good scheme well, such good coaches. And on

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01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 1: my visit, we talked about it a little bit and

2152
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: we talked about the versatility of me playing any of

2153
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,040
Speaker 1: the three baptism and I'm just really excited to have

2154
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: started with that and I just give it all I got. Hey, Damien,

2155
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 1: congrats man Um. You know, just looking looking at your bio,

2156
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 1: looking at your tape, can you just kind of give

2157
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: us a sense We talked about your versatility in here

2158
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 1: before you got on the phone, but just kind of

2159
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 1: give us a sense of I guess what you would

2160
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 1: say your biggest strength is coming in here off the

2161
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 1: bat well, I get the defense lined up pretty well,

2162
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: and I say my biggest strait would be my tackling

2163
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: in my pursuit and you know, let's another give him

2164
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: up on the play, just tracking the ball wherever it goes,

2165
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 1: no matter how far it is. And Damien, you know, congratulations,

2166
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: You've had, you know, a different journey than other people take.

2167
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 1: You know, started at Alcorn State, then go to the

2168
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 1: community college level, then end up at Minnesota. Kind of

2169
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 1: talk about your journey and how you ended up here. Uh, well,

2170
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't highly recruited out of high school,

2171
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 1: so all Coign State was really my only offer. But

2172
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 1: I really didn't gas, so I transport uh Jones Junior College.

2173
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: You don't had a pretty good year that picked up

2174
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 1: those college ships. Before I graduated, I already had a

2175
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 1: cousin that I went to Minnesota. He played running back

2176
01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: day to corb. He actually in the draft too, And

2177
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that was it right there. Minnesota was my

2178
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 1: charge from that part off Damon, you know, and again

2179
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 1: watching you on tape and and the fact that you

2180
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 1: are you know, played in the Big Ten, a very

2181
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 1: physical conference. Uh but you know a guy that you know,

2182
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 1: when you when you talk about your height and your

2183
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 1: weight and all that and your ability and stuff, you're

2184
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: one of those guys that could take on blocks, get

2185
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 1: off blocks, go make plays though. Talk about though, the

2186
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 1: fact that and how that helped you playing at Minnesota,

2187
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: lining up against Ohio State in the snow, and all

2188
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 1: those different teams that you've played against through your career,

2189
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 1: and how it's prepared you to step into the National

2190
01:53:56,640 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 1: Football League. Well, playing in the big Pain, I'll say

2191
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 1: that they are I'm in a huge right athletic. Yeah,

2192
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: like most typical NFL alignment that you'll find out of

2193
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: any conference. So I think playing against those guys from

2194
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 1: week to week was a good practice for this. Well,

2195
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 1: I'm about to go into right now. Yeah, well, good,

2196
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 1: well listen, dame. We know that we're gonna let you

2197
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: go here, but thank you so much for taking the time. Yeah,

2198
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 1: congratulations to you. We're you know again, all of us

2199
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: have had a chance to sit down and watch you

2200
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 1: play at the University of Minnesota. The folks there in Minneapolis,

2201
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 1: Saint Paul should be very proud of what you were

2202
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 1: as a player there and now what you're looking forward

2203
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: to doing here with Dallas. A matter of fact, Minnesota

2204
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 1: is on the preseason schedule this year, so I'm sure

2205
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 1: we'll get to see you firsthand making some plays against

2206
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: their guys. But again, congratulations and we look forward to

2207
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 1: seeing you down the road. All right, thank you for

2208
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: having me. Ill appreciate it, all right, Damian Wilson, nice kid. Yeah,

2209
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It really is funny to me

2210
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 1: the U. I mean, how how far away are Iowa

2211
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 1: and Minnesota? I mean, big ten guys tackle monsters. Four

2212
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 1: frown Eberflus goes in and and gets the little fist

2213
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 1: pump action on uh. And you know so Anthony Hingins

2214
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: and and and Damian Wilson, I mean this, I mean,

2215
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 1: the comparisons are gonna be there, you know, hopefully hopefully

2216
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: for Damian Hitchins's success as a rookie. You know, hopefully

2217
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: he's not held to too high of a standard because obviously,

2218
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, Hitchins went in there, like Mattiberflus said here

2219
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 1: on the radio a couple of minutes ago, you know,

2220
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 1: eleven eleven starts last last season, ultime positions, just a

2221
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 1: really outstanding rookie season. So well, the one thing, expectations

2222
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 1: will be lifted, I think because of that, and I

2223
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 1: think it goes through with again with Rod Marinelli. It's

2224
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: about accountability and the one thing when you play in

2225
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: this scheme is you you're not gonna sit there and

2226
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 1: say I'm not gonna be on I'm not gonna play today.

2227
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 1: You know, if you're if you're talented enough, and you

2228
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 1: could play a couple of different positions, and you know

2229
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: they're Anthony Hitchins. He you know, there's times he probably thought, Okay, day,

2230
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the backup and then something happens and

2231
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: he's playing that, you know, and he's played at two

2232
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 1: or three different spots in a particular game. And so

2233
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 1: I think that's something that that that these these young guys,

2234
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: and especially a guy like Damian Wilson, who you know,

2235
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: Mattie Reflus talked about, can play as them. Mike can't play,

2236
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 1: but he keeps an open mind about it. I love

2237
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 1: I love that right now he doesn't necessarily know which

2238
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 1: spot he's best, you know, gonna start at, and they

2239
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 1: and they will and they figure it out. Yet they

2240
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 1: will fire. And they did it with Anthony Hitchens, they

2241
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 1: did at the Hingens. So anyway, okay, we're moving along

2242
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: in the draft. Here we are now the last pick

2243
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 1: of the round. I believe that just happened, and that

2244
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 1: was Trey Walker defensive back from Texas Southern. That would

2245
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 1: be Baltimore's pick at one thirty six. I'll recap uh,

2246
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 1: Jake Ryan, let me go from one twenty nine, just

2247
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: to get you up to speed. Case you're out there

2248
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 1: driving around or whatever or listening to us and you're

2249
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 1: you're you're just want to know. The Green Bay Packers

2250
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 1: took Jake Ryan, the linebacker from UH from a minute

2251
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 1: from Michigan. Excuse me, Terry Pool to tackle from San

2252
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: Diego State went to Seattle. Shack Mason, a personal favorite.

2253
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 1: Dame Brudos guards center from Georgia Tech went to the

2254
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, who continue to build rebuild their team.

2255
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: They're like their third and fourth the round picks something

2256
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 1: better than their second round pick in my opinion, Yeah, yeah,

2257
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 1: they've I love what the Patriots I've done in the

2258
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 1: third and fourth round. Hated their second round pick. Jordan Richards. Yeah,

2259
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: I love what they've done. Third, fourth, They they have

2260
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 1: they have a vision. Deandre's Smelter wide receiver from Georgia Tech.

2261
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: He's interesting, is it San Francisco. There's some I heard

2262
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: some medical questions or a character duestion. It's it's medical.

2263
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. He has a lot of

2264
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 1: medical questions, but so intriguing for a baseball player. Six

2265
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 1: two two twenty five. You know he's in at the

2266
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 1: Marriest Thomas Mold, but yeah, can you stay on the

2267
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: field for you had an ACL injury most recently has

2268
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 1: some shoulder stuff. So if he can stay healthy, DeAndre

2269
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 1: Smelter could end up being a huge steal in this draft.

2270
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos then to select Max Garcia, a center from Florida.

2271
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was a really stiff legged, straight legged guy.

2272
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 1: Position blocker. Wasn't really high on him. But maybe with

2273
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: the Denver of the schemes and stuff like that, that

2274
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: there is another Florida lineman off the board. That's what

2275
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: three now? Yeah, you see, And then again we ask

2276
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 1: why the team is not any good a lot of

2277
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: and that they're running back went pretty early too, Okay.

2278
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 1: The next would be the Seattle Seahawks were back on

2279
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 1: the clock here and it was Mark Glewinsky. Uh Glinsky

2280
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 1: is that right? Daniel Glewinsky. He he played actually with

2281
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: Kevin White at Lackawanna Junior College and then they both

2282
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 1: ended up ending up at West Virginia. So uh, Glewinsky's

2283
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 1: he's a tough throwback kid guards and can also play tackles,

2284
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 1: so as a versatility. Okay, one thirty five. Since a

2285
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 1: Bengals took Marcus Hardison, they've had success with Arizona State

2286
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 1: players in the past, So Marvin Lewis and the Gang

2287
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: grab a defensive tackle that I think is one of

2288
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 1: those guys. It looks pretty underachieves a lot, and again,

2289
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to say, if they could get

2290
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: on track, that he could be. But they've done it

2291
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 1: before with those Arizona State players, So let's see. And

2292
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 1: then you talked about Trey Walker or you did not

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01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: talk at Trey Walk I'm sorry. The Baltimore Ravens finished around.

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01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 1: They took Trey Walker. Interesting prospect he is, Yeah, he is,

2295
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 1: and a big player. Who will you know him? I

2296
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 1: don't know him, but I mean I've read up on

2297
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 1: him because he was sort of a late bloomer on

2298
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 1: everybody's radar, not Dane Brugler's radar, I'm sure, but I'm sorry.

2299
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 1: A player we just talked about a lot greed Jared

2300
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: off the board. Now to the Falcons. Yeah, the Falcon

2301
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 1: The Falcons just uh you knew it couldn't last forever.

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01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 1: You couldn't last forever. This is a pick that's just

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01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 1: been much traded. It would be picked one thirty seven.

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01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 1: It's gone from Minnesota, from Tampa, through Buffalo and now

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01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: in the hands the Atlanta Falcons. So they've got him

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01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 1: playing three four or are they moving back to four three?

2307
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: What's the Seattle's Seattle? That was a short lived experiment. Yeah,

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01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 1: so here he gets definitely a fourth three player. Yeah

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01:59:58,520 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 1: that's all. That's what I was gonna say, is that

2310
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 1: does makes sense for a three or four team. So

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02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 1: Grady Jarrett the defensive tackle, he's the He's the son

2312
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 1: of Jesse Tuggle by the way, so he fits perfectly.

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02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:14,120
Speaker 1: His uncle, his or slash godfather's Ray ray Lewis. He

2314
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 1: works out with Ray Lewis on a daily basis. He

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02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:19,760
Speaker 1: has those intangibles you're looking for. He's got very high motor.

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02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 1: I call him, you know, the little tea cup because

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02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 1: he's he's short and stout. You know, he's he's able

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02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:28,960
Speaker 1: to be that quick penetrator, but he doesn't all he

2319
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 1: doesn't give up ground either. So um, he's not going

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02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 1: to fit every scheme, but at this point in the

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Speaker 1: fifth round, you know, take him. He's also joining Clemson

2322
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: teammate Vic Beasley in Atlanta, which is not more than two.

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02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because some people will compared him

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02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 1: because size wise and so forth with Aaron Donald. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald is a whatyo tenth of the draft

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02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 1: people comparing with Geno Atkins as well, who was a

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02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, and that typically when you've got that short,

2328
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,120
Speaker 1: your little up right, you're gonna go fourth or fifth

2329
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 1: round under size. But Aaron Donald just he was off

2330
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 1: the charts with his athletics and his production at pitt

2331
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 1: as well. Grady Jarrett did not have as much production

2332
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:16,880
Speaker 1: at Clemson, although he did affect a number of plays. Yeah,

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02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:19,960
Speaker 1: we got the secret audio from the war room when

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02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:22,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Jason Garret, mattieverflu Saal grab on them jump

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02:01:22,840 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 1: on the phone with Damian Wilson. So let's go to that, Damien. Yes,

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02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:28,960
Speaker 1: we're calling you in here from the draft room, missus

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02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones with the Dallas Cowboys. So we're put turning

2338
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:37,000
Speaker 1: your card in and congratulations, you're gonna have that star

2339
02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 1: on your helmet and we're proud of it too. I've

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02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 1: got your head coach sitting here with me. I've got

2341
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator, I've got you linebacker coach. But the

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02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 1: one that's grinned the most is the special team's coach.

2343
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 1: So he's said over here besides you, and he did

2344
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 1: a big old and up. So let's go to work, cowboy.

2345
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: All right, here's the coach garage head coach. Yeah, well, Damien, Well, congratulations, man,

2346
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:07,240
Speaker 1: thank you. Are you're ready to get to work? Yeah,

2347
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go right now. We literally got five

2348
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 1: coaches around, big smiles on their faces. Yeah, we've been

2349
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 1: hanging on here. We're excited to have you. I'm gonna

2350
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:22,280
Speaker 1: side with some I hear some noise in the background too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2351
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 1: that's that's great stuff. I'm gonna see you on Thursday.

2352
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 1: Get ready to get to work. All right, all right, man,

2353
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:31,400
Speaker 1: take care of Damien. We're going on. How's it going, buddy, Congratulations,

2354
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:35,800
Speaker 1: go a lot better enough. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, this

2355
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 1: is a great spot for you. I can't wait to

2356
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 1: get my hands on you. And we know, like we

2357
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:41,240
Speaker 1: did in the room when you came on your thirty visit,

2358
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna teach you one thing at a time

2359
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 1: and and get going and just improve every day. Okay,

2360
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:48,800
Speaker 1: and we're gonna work at it. And you don't tell

2361
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:50,320
Speaker 1: you what. You're gonna make a lot of plays for us.

2362
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: So I'm exciting going about it. Okay, I'll love it.

2363
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 1: TV congratulations, It must have just gone up on the TV.

2364
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: That's probably what happened. As oh man, they're about to

2365
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: go crazy again because his cousin. His cousin was taken

2366
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 1: by the Tennessee Titans. So yeah, so yeah, David, if

2367
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: you're thinking running back for the Cowboys at this point,

2368
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:35,960
Speaker 1: you're it's Jedi E or bust. Well, you know one Crockett,

2369
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah you got you got another guy, Thomas Rawls. Thomas Rawls.

2370
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls is a guy that played at Michigan for

2371
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 1: three years and then transferred to Central Michigan. And I'll

2372
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 1: tell you this, though, you talk about a guy that's

2373
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 1: a finisher, you know, I mean he you know, there's

2374
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times at Central Michigan that they missed

2375
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 1: guys like Fisher. They're blocking for him because this kid

2376
02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:58,920
Speaker 1: had to create a lot on his own. And uh,

2377
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 1: you could see he was a talented football player, you know,

2378
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:04,440
Speaker 1: coming from like say, coming from Eversity of Michigan. Uh,

2379
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, when he gets in the second level, he's

2380
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:09,040
Speaker 1: gonna finish the runs. So he gets on the outside,

2381
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 1: they trying to he gonna step out of bounce. No,

2382
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna lower his shoulder. He's gonna hit you right

2383
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:16,080
Speaker 1: in the mouth. I would say, if that's, if that's

2384
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 1: if Rawles is a guy. I mean, I had him

2385
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,120
Speaker 1: in my board in the fifth round. I still think

2386
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 1: a GI is in the play here, y, I do.

2387
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 1: I do think. I think there's gonna come a point

2388
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: in time where where the where the uh, the risk

2389
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 1: is just totally now. Okay, here we go. This is

2390
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:32,400
Speaker 1: a guy we're gonna go with and and and and

2391
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:34,800
Speaker 1: and have at it. I'm gonna I'm gonna make a

2392
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna I'm gonna make a projection, and you

2393
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm off base or not. Is I mean,

2394
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, when we talk about a GI, he being

2395
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 1: top forty, top fifty talent, assuming his knee checks out,

2396
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,640
Speaker 1: he's a guy that if you draft him, I assume,

2397
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 1: if he's healthy, he's got the talent to be one

2398
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 1: A or one B. You know, I mean, if you're

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02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 1: saying McFadden's you're one, then I think a gi he's

2400
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: right there at the top of the heap above Randall,

2401
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 1: Dunbar and Williams. We feel good about that. Yeah, I

2402
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: have no problem with the player. I thought he was

2403
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:05,560
Speaker 1: probably a player that's gonna be taken in the second

2404
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:07,880
Speaker 1: round when so and and and Dane's told you this

2405
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 1: because he's done all the research that the player is

2406
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 1: ready to go. Now, this is not a way, this

2407
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:19,360
Speaker 1: is not this. Yeah, but okay, So if you take

2408
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:24,080
Speaker 1: Rawls or dig up another running back here, um, where

2409
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:25,960
Speaker 1: do you see like where where do you see Rawles

2410
02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 1: factoring into that depth chart as a rookie. I mean,

2411
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 1: if you're talking about this late in the draft, I'm

2412
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:32,920
Speaker 1: just gonna have to eat these Okay. How how you're

2413
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:34,720
Speaker 1: not thinking about a guy who can carry as much

2414
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:36,600
Speaker 1: of the load right away, are you? And he's a

2415
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,320
Speaker 1: seventh rounder then right, I think you're looking at a

2416
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:42,240
Speaker 1: seventh round like that. But he's a practice squad guy,

2417
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:45,360
Speaker 1: then well no, but but maybe and maybe heat the

2418
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 1: other four that's but can he beat can he beat Randall?

2419
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:51,320
Speaker 1: And can he beat Williams? That's gonna be the question

2420
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: because they've signed dunn Bar, they're gonna go with McFadden.

2421
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: It's Williams and Randall to have roster spots exactly. Yeah,

2422
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:01,880
Speaker 1: it's seventh round. You're right built to me. Okay, if

2423
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 1: that's the case, take a gi that dis take it.

2424
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 1: That's the guy they could put. I'm just saying, no, no, no,

2425
02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:09,400
Speaker 1: no no, that's the guy that could put the others

2426
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 1: on the street. I'm sitting here thinking, like I said,

2427
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 1: a gi ear bus because anybody else I'm not thinking

2428
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 1: I have confidence in to win a job, because i mean,

2429
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:20,560
Speaker 1: four running backs is a lot they're not going to

2430
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 1: carry for one of those guys probably loses a job,

2431
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 1: as is maybe two if you draft a GII. So

2432
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:29,760
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting with the way they've loaded up on

2433
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 1: fullbacks here. Yeah, they got two on the roster right now. Yeah,

2434
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 1: here's that they would love to have a fullback on

2435
02:06:35,120 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 1: this roster apparently, which maybe throw in that into the

2436
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:41,360
Speaker 1: mix in the seventh round two if they really really

2437
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 1: want to go that route where they have a fullback

2438
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:45,840
Speaker 1: on the roster, you assume that Darren McFadden is here,

2439
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 1: Lands Dunbar is definitely here. If you keep a fullback here,

2440
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 1: if you keep a fullback you're talking about, I mean,

2441
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 1: you're somebody that you probably don't want to let go of.

2442
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 1: It's probably losing a job this summer. That'll be I mean,

2443
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 1: even if you don't draft a GI, it'll be interesting

2444
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:03,600
Speaker 1: to look at. But you know, it's certainly I certainly

2445
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:05,440
Speaker 1: think they could use the boost if they can get

2446
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 1: this kid. Going back to what Brian said about Rawls,

2447
02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:12,040
Speaker 1: My biggest thing with him that I worry about is, Yes,

2448
02:07:12,160 --> 02:07:14,440
Speaker 1: he'll go and he'll he'll hit the defender, he'll run

2449
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:17,480
Speaker 1: over guys, but sometimes he passes up open lanes to

2450
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 1: do so, and I think he has almost too much

2451
02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 1: of a hungry temperament to do that. Um, and you know,

2452
02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 1: you wonder he was at Michigan for this first three years.

2453
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:29,480
Speaker 1: I didn't find the field. Um, there's just some there's

2454
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:32,720
Speaker 1: some baggage, there's some question marks. Uh so, but you

2455
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:35,080
Speaker 1: do have a talented player. You watch his highlights and

2456
02:07:35,120 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: you go, WHOA, okay something here? How big is he

2457
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 1: two hundred? He's a good size. Yeah, I think he

2458
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: was two fifteen. He's not a scatback type. He's not

2459
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:48,360
Speaker 1: Anne Bar type. He is a between the tackles guy

2460
02:07:48,720 --> 02:07:51,520
Speaker 1: five nine to fifteen. Yeah, he can, he can, he could. Okay,

2461
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Speaker 1: Heeney goes to Oakland linebacker from Kansas. Absolutely, Ben Heeny

2462
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:56,680
Speaker 1: will go at set pick one for you. Let's take

2463
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Speaker 1: a break. We haven't done that yet today. Okay, everybody's

2464
02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:03,200
Speaker 1: a time out. Yeah, and give everybody a chance to

2465
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:06,200
Speaker 1: catch your breath a little bit. This has been the

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Speaker 1: wall to wall coverage of the NFL Draft here on

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Speaker 1: of the twenty fifteen NFL Draft on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Speaker 1: Tom and you look inside the draft room where the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are waiting to make their fifth round selection, which

2473
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Speaker 1: is number one sixty three overall. I'm Bill Jones along

2474
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Speaker 1: with Brian brought us, Dane Brugler. David Hellman has stepped

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Speaker 1: out for just a moment, but we appreciate you joining

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Speaker 1: us or pick by pick coverage of the twenty fifteen

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. While we were in our little time out

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Speaker 1: there the Washington Redskins a pick number one forty one

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Speaker 1: selected Mark trell Spake, the linebacker from Arkansas. So we

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Speaker 1: are some twenty two picks away from the Cowboys pick

2481
02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:04,080
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, number one sixty three. And again

2482
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Speaker 1: if you're just joining us, Damian Wilson, linebacker from Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: just joined us live on the air, as did linebackers

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Speaker 1: coach Maddi eber Flows as the Cowboys fourth round selection,

2485
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:18,880
Speaker 1: number one twenty seven was at linebacker. Still no running

2486
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 1: backs in this draft class, and Jerry Jones was right,

2487
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 1: they're not valuing running back. We all didn't want to

2488
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:27,520
Speaker 1: believe him. We all thought it was a smoke screen.

2489
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 1: We all thought a lot of negative things about you know,

2490
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 1: how you're going to go forward with the running backs

2491
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 1: currently on the roster. But they feel like right now

2492
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 1: that that's the route that they're going to go. So

2493
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:42,920
Speaker 1: I again, at some point in time, and we're I'm

2494
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:45,600
Speaker 1: beating a dead horse here, but at some point in time,

2495
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:48,839
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some value, some value for Jay Age.

2496
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 1: I think there's got there's just there's gonna be value

2497
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:54,120
Speaker 1: that if you, if you, unless they have him completely

2498
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:56,320
Speaker 1: off the board, which I don't think they do right,

2499
02:11:56,680 --> 02:12:00,680
Speaker 1: then then that's you know, there's value there. But if

2500
02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:02,560
Speaker 1: we later find out that he's off the board, then

2501
02:12:03,080 --> 02:12:05,520
Speaker 1: Brian brought us to spend two hours of his life

2502
02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:07,720
Speaker 1: here talking about something that wasn't going to happen in

2503
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:09,760
Speaker 1: the first place. Well, and that's that's the draft for you.

2504
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:13,280
Speaker 1: Though you know it's happened with Clemings exactly, he just

2505
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:16,680
Speaker 1: don't know. And looking at my top one hundred guys

2506
02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 1: that are left now, obviously some of these are medical

2507
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:24,520
Speaker 1: situations and with Lyle Collins another situation. But jayagi um

2508
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:30,320
Speaker 1: efore Olamu, that's another medical situation. Michael Bennett, the defensive

2509
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:33,800
Speaker 1: tackle out of Ohio State. Yeah, rickiem Nunez Rochez defensive

2510
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 1: tackle Southern miss Trey McBride, William and Mary the receiver.

2511
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 1: One of my favorite players this year. Charles Gains, a

2512
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:43,040
Speaker 1: corner out of Louisville who has has some character stuff.

2513
02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:44,600
Speaker 1: So I think that's a reason why he's still on

2514
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:48,680
Speaker 1: the board. Tyler Davison, defensive tackle Fresno State. And then

2515
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:51,640
Speaker 1: Christian Covington, the defensive tackle out of Rice. Another medical

2516
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:53,840
Speaker 1: thing going on with him. Had a had a knee

2517
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 1: issue and so I think that's why we still have

2518
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:58,680
Speaker 1: him available on the board. You know, at this point,

2519
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 1: I here Huntley from you he was not my top

2520
02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:03,560
Speaker 1: one hundred, Okay, but he is still available. Yeah, Brett Hundley,

2521
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback from UCLA is still available. You know. We've

2522
02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:09,840
Speaker 1: also talked about the fact that the Cowboys could stand

2523
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 1: adding more to their inventory in the secondary, and there

2524
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 1: are some cornerbacks that are available right now that might

2525
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 1: fit into this fifth round range, including Kevin White from Tcue,

2526
02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 1: Corey Shepard from Kansas. It was a local product out

2527
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:27,400
Speaker 1: of Mesquite, Texas, and so they can still go in

2528
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:30,240
Speaker 1: a number of directions here. They still haven't replaced Dwayne

2529
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:33,440
Speaker 1: Harris on this roster, and of course with his special

2530
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 1: team's ability, the backup wide receiver who had a very

2531
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:42,920
Speaker 1: nice deal in free agency. And Adrian Amos is the

2532
02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 1: pick here of who is on the Chicago Chicago Bears.

2533
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 1: Adrian Amos, the safety from Penn State. Yeah, and I'll

2534
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:53,520
Speaker 1: tell you what, a lot of people liked him as

2535
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:55,440
Speaker 1: a one of those guys that could be like a

2536
02:13:55,720 --> 02:14:00,520
Speaker 1: true free safety, and you know that's I think that's

2537
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:04,760
Speaker 1: where he fits best. You know, there's uh you see

2538
02:14:04,840 --> 02:14:08,240
Speaker 1: him play back. I think he's more of a cover

2539
02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:11,160
Speaker 1: guy than he is a physical get up on you

2540
02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:15,200
Speaker 1: played downhill. He will make tackles, he will come forward.

2541
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:18,000
Speaker 1: U there were times, and I go back to watching

2542
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:21,080
Speaker 1: the Central Florida game when you know with their receiver

2543
02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:23,520
Speaker 1: with Perry Ball going down the field and him having

2544
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 1: to run over and try. I don't see a guy

2545
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:28,000
Speaker 1: that's really fast. I don't see a very quick guy.

2546
02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:30,840
Speaker 1: I see a guy, though, is a willing tackler, but

2547
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:35,560
Speaker 1: he does have that ability to cover in some space,

2548
02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:38,280
Speaker 1: and so he's I think that's why the Bears. Bears

2549
02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:41,000
Speaker 1: are bad at safety. We've always had to deal every

2550
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:43,160
Speaker 1: time we've ever talked about the Bears, it's been the

2551
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 1: safety play has been awful. And this kid is a

2552
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:48,120
Speaker 1: will give him an opportunity to maybe have a better

2553
02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:50,040
Speaker 1: player than what they've been playing with. He's a tweeter

2554
02:14:50,360 --> 02:14:52,520
Speaker 1: for me, I'm not sure about him at corner. I'm

2555
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:54,200
Speaker 1: not sure about him at safety. I think he looks

2556
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:56,840
Speaker 1: like a corner. He does physically looks like a corner.

2557
02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 1: He's too reactive for me. I don't think he anticipates.

2558
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:02,520
Speaker 1: He waits for the action to unfold before he reacts.

2559
02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:06,600
Speaker 1: But he tested well and so I think some people

2560
02:15:06,640 --> 02:15:08,320
Speaker 1: thought he'd go earlier than this, but this, I think

2561
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:09,600
Speaker 1: this is a good value for him here in the

2562
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:12,080
Speaker 1: fifth a player that you can plug in in the

2563
02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:14,879
Speaker 1: safety mix. He'll compete for a job there in Chicago

2564
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:17,960
Speaker 1: with their bad situation at safety. So with the Adrian

2565
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:19,640
Speaker 1: Amos not a bad pick here in the fifth round.

2566
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:23,480
Speaker 1: You know one thing Cowboys fans wonder, would the Cowboys

2567
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:26,920
Speaker 1: take a quarterback in this draft? And if you slept

2568
02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:30,879
Speaker 1: in and joined us late, Tier been out running your saturday.

2569
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:34,320
Speaker 1: Aaron same and Petty went to the New York Jets

2570
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:37,280
Speaker 1: early in the fourth round. But Bret Hundley still there

2571
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:39,600
Speaker 1: and Brett Huntley as a guy that the Cowboys at

2572
02:15:39,680 --> 02:15:43,120
Speaker 1: least worked out. Yeah, you know, and when you talk

2573
02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 1: to Wade Wilson, you know Wade picked ups usually he

2574
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 1: didn't get to go pick up frequent flyer Miles, but

2575
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:51,280
Speaker 1: he got to go out to Westwood work this kid out.

2576
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:53,680
Speaker 1: Got to put him on the board. Uh, you know,

2577
02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:57,240
Speaker 1: he actually went out to to Corvallis. Did Manion in

2578
02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:00,720
Speaker 1: that workout as well? They've talked about if a quarterback

2579
02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:03,680
Speaker 1: was at the right spot, and I don't know if

2580
02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 1: that time has passed now where that quarterback is at

2581
02:16:06,440 --> 02:16:08,760
Speaker 1: the right spot. I don't know if if the fifth

2582
02:16:08,920 --> 02:16:12,320
Speaker 1: round at at pick one sixty three is the right spot.

2583
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:15,720
Speaker 1: But Hunley is a guy that they did go, like

2584
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:19,600
Speaker 1: Bill said, went and worked out and uh and gave

2585
02:16:19,720 --> 02:16:23,120
Speaker 1: him the opportunity to show whether he needed to be drafted.

2586
02:16:23,160 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 1: Or We'll be interested to see how many more quarterbacks

2587
02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 1: are drafted. I think we'll see Brett hun Latt's on point.

2588
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:32,680
Speaker 1: But after that, well we'll see another quarterback drafted, a

2589
02:16:32,800 --> 02:16:37,520
Speaker 1: Chris Bonner, Brandon Bridge, Blake Simms, Taylor Heineke. Well, one

2590
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:40,560
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks go late. That'll be an interesting to

2591
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:43,440
Speaker 1: What did you think of Chris Bonner, the Colorado State

2592
02:16:43,480 --> 02:16:47,120
Speaker 1: poeblos like? I mean, I like his upside more than

2593
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:49,640
Speaker 1: Sean mannion Um. I think you have them some things

2594
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:51,480
Speaker 1: there you can develop. Now. He's not ready to see

2595
02:16:51,480 --> 02:16:54,760
Speaker 1: the NFL field. And we've said that a lot about

2596
02:16:54,800 --> 02:16:56,200
Speaker 1: some of these guys in this class. But he's not

2597
02:16:56,280 --> 02:16:58,320
Speaker 1: ready to see the field right away. But you can

2598
02:16:58,400 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 1: get him in a six or seventh round. I would

2599
02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:02,320
Speaker 1: rather take a chance on him in the six or

2600
02:17:02,360 --> 02:17:05,000
Speaker 1: seventh than Sean Manning in the third. Uh So I

2601
02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:08,000
Speaker 1: think Bonner would be a good value late. So definitely

2602
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:09,760
Speaker 1: a nanny to keep an eye on Bonner. I'll tell

2603
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:11,040
Speaker 1: you what I liked to be at him though. I

2604
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:13,120
Speaker 1: like his height, I really do. And then you watch

2605
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:16,520
Speaker 1: him six yeah, and he'll stand very tall in the pocket.

2606
02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:18,720
Speaker 1: And then what you have with him, though, is real,

2607
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:22,240
Speaker 1: real overhand, almost like a baseball pitcher throw him. It's

2608
02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:25,480
Speaker 1: like he he throws really well over him. But I

2609
02:17:25,560 --> 02:17:28,640
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of pace on his passes Dan,

2610
02:17:28,720 --> 02:17:31,000
Speaker 1: And that's this thing for someone as big and as

2611
02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:33,760
Speaker 1: over the top as he threw. I was worried about,

2612
02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, and in the division. Yeah. And and I'm

2613
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:38,199
Speaker 1: not trying to kill the kid here, I'm just saying.

2614
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though I'm watching kids at the level

2615
02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:44,160
Speaker 1: those games that he's playing against, and I can I

2616
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:46,640
Speaker 1: can tell you the games I watched him play. I

2617
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:49,199
Speaker 1: wish he would have got an opportunity like an Ali

2618
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:51,760
Speaker 1: Marpette did, to go play in one of these games,

2619
02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:54,080
Speaker 1: to go play in an All Star game, to you know,

2620
02:17:54,200 --> 02:17:56,560
Speaker 1: to show people that he could, you know that he

2621
02:17:56,760 --> 02:17:59,959
Speaker 1: was he belongs because you do like the physical trade

2622
02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:02,760
Speaker 1: of the player have a Flacco type body, Well, it's

2623
02:18:02,800 --> 02:18:06,160
Speaker 1: a Flacco body. Flacco body to me is Mann Manning

2624
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:08,600
Speaker 1: is the the Flacco body. Well, and he did play

2625
02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:10,680
Speaker 1: at the Medal of Honorable, but it was I mean

2626
02:18:10,879 --> 02:18:13,560
Speaker 1: he didn't get the instruction there. That see, that's what Okay, Well,

2627
02:18:13,720 --> 02:18:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking more like the East West one who had

2628
02:18:15,680 --> 02:18:19,840
Speaker 1: more high profile exactly you know All Star Game with Boer. Yeah,

2629
02:18:19,879 --> 02:18:22,720
Speaker 1: you're right, he's just a novice at the quarterback position

2630
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:24,560
Speaker 1: where you know, he doesn't know how to control his

2631
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:27,560
Speaker 1: ball speeds. Uh, there's so many parts of the position

2632
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:30,360
Speaker 1: where he needs work. So uh but like I said,

2633
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:33,680
Speaker 1: the development traits are there, the size of the arm, strength,

2634
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:36,680
Speaker 1: the smarts. I think that's a good foundation to work

2635
02:18:36,800 --> 02:18:39,760
Speaker 1: on for a late round pick. And we did have

2636
02:18:39,879 --> 02:18:44,959
Speaker 1: a pick of Minnesota Michael Prue at the tight end. Yeah,

2637
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:48,560
Speaker 1: Michael Pruett. Yeah, went to his product of tight end

2638
02:18:48,640 --> 02:18:52,600
Speaker 1: out of Southern Illinois. And then the New York Giants

2639
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:56,400
Speaker 1: have selected how do you pronounce Michael Thompson m y

2640
02:18:56,640 --> 02:19:00,959
Speaker 1: K K E l E Thompson. That's the first who

2641
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:04,040
Speaker 1: did they get you? That's I did not expect him

2642
02:19:04,040 --> 02:19:06,160
Speaker 1: to get drafted. I mean, yeah, you see him on

2643
02:19:06,640 --> 02:19:08,600
Speaker 1: you see him play, and you just I don't know,

2644
02:19:08,640 --> 02:19:12,520
Speaker 1: I didn't see a draftable player, but Giants saw something different. Yeah. See,

2645
02:19:12,560 --> 02:19:14,480
Speaker 1: the Giants have always kind of been a little bit

2646
02:19:14,560 --> 02:19:17,680
Speaker 1: been the secondary Texas. Yeah I've heard, Yeah, I don't,

2647
02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm kind of lost on the player too.

2648
02:19:19,680 --> 02:19:22,680
Speaker 1: But the thing that that I always known about the

2649
02:19:22,720 --> 02:19:26,959
Speaker 1: Giants seventy eighth safety seventy eight, I don't even remember

2650
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:28,720
Speaker 1: him playing for Texas. They got him list of his

2651
02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:31,400
Speaker 1: and if if he must one of those uh Matt

2652
02:19:31,480 --> 02:19:35,480
Speaker 1: Slater types, that if Bill Josel teams as many as

2653
02:19:35,520 --> 02:19:38,640
Speaker 1: many Red River rivalry games, is on the other side

2654
02:19:38,680 --> 02:19:41,080
Speaker 1: of the Red River. But he knows, he knows all

2655
02:19:41,120 --> 02:19:44,440
Speaker 1: the competition he would of Douglas Barricklowe in there. Who's

2656
02:19:44,440 --> 02:19:48,320
Speaker 1: a Texas Longhorn? Has ever heard of Mchael Thompson. Nah,

2657
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:50,680
Speaker 1: he's shaking his head, and do doug us Will? Where

2658
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:52,960
Speaker 1: are you out about those Texas players too? Now? So

2659
02:19:53,360 --> 02:19:55,800
Speaker 1: Thompson had a good workout four or five one Pro

2660
02:19:56,000 --> 02:19:58,520
Speaker 1: day forty yard dash at his Pro day thirty six

2661
02:19:58,600 --> 02:20:02,119
Speaker 1: in vertical ten nine, I jump six eight nine three cones.

2662
02:20:02,120 --> 02:20:05,200
Speaker 1: So all good numbers there for Thompson, that's probably what

2663
02:20:05,320 --> 02:20:10,360
Speaker 1: helped him get drafted. But the fifth round surprised Giant

2664
02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:13,360
Speaker 1: saw well and and we see this as a safety then, right,

2665
02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:16,280
Speaker 1: and we talked about I mean, if you just want

2666
02:20:16,320 --> 02:20:18,720
Speaker 1: to talk about guys that potentially if this kid played safety,

2667
02:20:19,240 --> 02:20:21,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to sider and act like it

2668
02:20:21,440 --> 02:20:23,240
Speaker 1: it pick one forty four. I know who this kid

2669
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:25,200
Speaker 1: is because I have absolutely no clue who he is.

2670
02:20:25,480 --> 02:20:27,840
Speaker 1: But if the in fact it's a safety guys myself

2671
02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:31,199
Speaker 1: the Swan kid from Georgia is a guy I really liked.

2672
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:33,480
Speaker 1: I like to know, how about Hackett. If you're talking

2673
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:36,560
Speaker 1: about it, you're talking about a big twelve guy Hackett,

2674
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:40,600
Speaker 1: you know from TCU, maybe Smith from Fresno. I mean,

2675
02:20:40,640 --> 02:20:42,959
Speaker 1: they're guys on this board if you're looking at free safety.

2676
02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:46,880
Speaker 1: But again that's their flavor of ice cream clearly is

2677
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:49,440
Speaker 1: different from our flavor of ice cream right now with

2678
02:20:49,560 --> 02:20:52,320
Speaker 1: this player. So the Giants definitely trying to upgrade the

2679
02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:55,360
Speaker 1: safety position. Of course, they took land In Collins traded

2680
02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:56,960
Speaker 1: up in the second round to take him as the

2681
02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:59,840
Speaker 1: first pick of the second round yesterday. Yeah, and he

2682
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:02,960
Speaker 1: obviously a different type player. He's not a free safety. No,

2683
02:21:03,080 --> 02:21:05,760
Speaker 1: he's this the landing Collins to me is a keep

2684
02:21:05,840 --> 02:21:08,000
Speaker 1: things in front, let me be in the box and

2685
02:21:08,480 --> 02:21:11,320
Speaker 1: and handled things. I again, I said it yesterday or

2686
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:13,080
Speaker 1: two days ago. I thought maybe he would be an

2687
02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:16,720
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, a really good outside linebacker in this league.

2688
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:19,560
Speaker 1: I struggle with him having a plainny type of carver.

2689
02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:22,600
Speaker 1: This shows how a little I pay attention to the

2690
02:21:23,320 --> 02:21:30,560
Speaker 1: safeties for Texas not named um oh, Earl Thomas. Yeah

2691
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:34,160
Speaker 1: he did. He did make thirty one starts for the Longhorns.

2692
02:21:34,280 --> 02:21:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I mean you you watched the Texas defense

2693
02:21:37,320 --> 02:21:39,080
Speaker 1: and you see him out there. But I don't know.

2694
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:42,320
Speaker 1: I just watching Jordan Hicks, you know, studying him. Um

2695
02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:44,440
Speaker 1: you know you could see him make plays with Thompson.

2696
02:21:44,480 --> 02:21:48,920
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily see that consistency consistently. So surprise he

2697
02:21:49,080 --> 02:21:50,959
Speaker 1: was drafted here in the fifth round. I thought more

2698
02:21:50,959 --> 02:21:53,240
Speaker 1: of a PFA. But like I said, I he did.

2699
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:55,440
Speaker 1: Hear a little bit of buzz after the Pro day.

2700
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:58,360
Speaker 1: He did it did help himself there, So I think

2701
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:00,640
Speaker 1: that's the big reason why he's coming off the board

2702
02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:03,480
Speaker 1: here in the fifth round. So the long Horns had

2703
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:07,200
Speaker 1: nobody drafted last year, and this year they get mckill

2704
02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:09,480
Speaker 1: Thompson here in the fifth round. Of course, in the

2705
02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:13,480
Speaker 1: first round they had Malcolm Brown as well. Yeah, all right,

2706
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:16,760
Speaker 1: Miami is on the clock and the pick is in

2707
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:20,360
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins at number one forty five here in

2708
02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:23,120
Speaker 1: the fifth round Cowboys with a fifth round pick, No.

2709
02:22:23,320 --> 02:22:27,160
Speaker 1: Sixth round pick two sevenths and Bobby McCain, the cornerback

2710
02:22:27,760 --> 02:22:31,280
Speaker 1: from Memphis, is the pick of the Miami Dolphins. He

2711
02:22:31,400 --> 02:22:34,000
Speaker 1: thoughts about Bobby McCain there from Memphis day. I like

2712
02:22:34,200 --> 02:22:38,000
Speaker 1: this player. I did really like him ahead of him

2713
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:40,600
Speaker 1: as a fourth or a fifth round pick. Not the

2714
02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:44,400
Speaker 1: biggest guy at five nine and a half one, but

2715
02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:50,199
Speaker 1: he's he was always around, always around his receiver. He's physical,

2716
02:22:50,520 --> 02:22:54,680
Speaker 1: he's quick, fluid and the footwork. Yeah, and as you see,

2717
02:22:54,680 --> 02:22:57,800
Speaker 1: there's some activity here in the war room and Jerry

2718
02:22:57,920 --> 02:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Jones is on the phone. They're looking at the wall

2719
02:23:01,160 --> 02:23:04,000
Speaker 1: over there. Brian, what do you suspect is going on? Well,

2720
02:23:04,040 --> 02:23:07,400
Speaker 1: they're all looking, of course, all the tags. Britt Brown,

2721
02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:10,840
Speaker 1: the associate athletic trainer, is in charge of taking the

2722
02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:13,600
Speaker 1: tags from the draft board over to the left where

2723
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:17,720
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones are all staring. Uh, they're they're

2724
02:23:17,879 --> 02:23:21,600
Speaker 1: obviously talking about something going on. The teams realize that

2725
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:25,840
Speaker 1: Dallas doesn't have a sixth round pick, so that might

2726
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:29,160
Speaker 1: be a trade back situation here. Maybe go to their spot,

2727
02:23:29,640 --> 02:23:32,040
Speaker 1: uh and see if they could pick up a pick

2728
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:37,040
Speaker 1: or two. But Jerry, this is usually a responsibility for Steven, uh,

2729
02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, to get the trade and then they kind

2730
02:23:39,760 --> 02:23:42,280
Speaker 1: of relay things affect that Stephen is not in the

2731
02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:45,000
Speaker 1: room right now. Jerry's handling that. It's like a it's

2732
02:23:45,040 --> 02:23:46,560
Speaker 1: like old school back in the day when I used

2733
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:49,000
Speaker 1: to see him do that. But Stephen now. But yeah,

2734
02:23:49,000 --> 02:23:51,760
Speaker 1: they're looking at the they're looking he's Jerry's nodding down.

2735
02:23:51,840 --> 02:23:54,480
Speaker 1: He's looking at that spot. And then it's as you

2736
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:57,800
Speaker 1: see Jason Garrett course pointing up. So you know, maybe

2737
02:23:58,240 --> 02:24:03,880
Speaker 1: possibility at next year's picks, maybe something here. But you know,

2738
02:24:04,040 --> 02:24:06,560
Speaker 1: Jerry just fielded a call. We' we haven't seen the

2739
02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:10,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys field a bunch of calls in this draft, which

2740
02:24:10,280 --> 02:24:12,800
Speaker 1: is kind of, uh, you know, strange, especially for a

2741
02:24:12,840 --> 02:24:15,560
Speaker 1: team it's been the bottom of the board. So Jerry's

2742
02:24:16,200 --> 02:24:20,279
Speaker 1: Steven's on the phone now, so he just took the calls.

2743
02:24:20,440 --> 02:24:22,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they put the put the team on hold there

2744
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:26,320
Speaker 1: and let Stephen have at it here. But I like

2745
02:24:26,480 --> 02:24:29,680
Speaker 1: what you said about about McCain. I do. I saw

2746
02:24:29,720 --> 02:24:32,600
Speaker 1: a very aggressive guy. I didn't see much catchup speed though.

2747
02:24:32,760 --> 02:24:34,840
Speaker 1: That that's the thing about him. Here's a guy who

2748
02:24:34,879 --> 02:24:37,640
Speaker 1: runs four four eight time wise, but a little bit bothering.

2749
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:40,560
Speaker 1: They used him as a slot blitzer, fight off blocks,

2750
02:24:40,600 --> 02:24:43,240
Speaker 1: those kind of things. He's a physical, aggressive type of guy,

2751
02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:46,840
Speaker 1: step up, tackle and tough and will battle. So last yeah,

2752
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:50,040
Speaker 1: his last twenty two games eleven interceptions. Yeah wow, and

2753
02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:52,200
Speaker 1: he's a five. He's an under five ten, so he's

2754
02:24:52,240 --> 02:24:54,280
Speaker 1: a shorter corn. That's probably why you see guys. I

2755
02:24:54,320 --> 02:24:55,880
Speaker 1: saw him get some good you know. He played its

2756
02:24:55,959 --> 02:24:58,640
Speaker 1: UCLA and an old miss and was able to hold

2757
02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:00,440
Speaker 1: up pretty well. Again, I think the last line in

2758
02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:03,600
Speaker 1: my summary sums him up. His lack of physical tools

2759
02:25:03,720 --> 02:25:07,280
Speaker 1: really limit his proceiling, but his ball skills, fluidity and

2760
02:25:07,360 --> 02:25:11,360
Speaker 1: overachieving attitude fit as a possible nickel corner in the NFL. Okay,

2761
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:15,400
Speaker 1: this one forty six is now owned by the This

2762
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:18,760
Speaker 1: was Atlantas pick. It's owned by the Minnesota Vikings. So

2763
02:25:19,080 --> 02:25:23,080
Speaker 1: let's see what the Vikings have up up their sleeve

2764
02:25:23,800 --> 02:25:25,920
Speaker 1: here at the and they just made the pick of

2765
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:32,840
Speaker 1: the tight end Pruett just three picks earlier. And Minnesota,

2766
02:25:34,160 --> 02:25:37,000
Speaker 1: of course they started the drect what I love what

2767
02:25:37,360 --> 02:25:40,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota did. And Mike Zimmer had to be just beside

2768
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:43,480
Speaker 1: himself after getting Trey Wayne's in the first round, Eric

2769
02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Kendricks in the second round, personally as a project player

2770
02:25:48,320 --> 02:25:50,560
Speaker 1: in the third round, the Neil Hunter. I think he's

2771
02:25:50,600 --> 02:25:53,520
Speaker 1: got the potential to be a pass rusher. He's certainly

2772
02:25:53,560 --> 02:25:58,080
Speaker 1: has the traits and the youth whatever, and particularly in

2773
02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:02,040
Speaker 1: their situation within then he bar Brian Robinson's now getting

2774
02:26:02,120 --> 02:26:04,840
Speaker 1: long in the type and I think he just had

2775
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:07,560
Speaker 1: to leave his first thing. The thing about Hunter to

2776
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:10,960
Speaker 1: me was an LSU a lump. First. They got to

2777
02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:13,680
Speaker 1: get into play flat back into rush. They can't let him.

2778
02:26:13,720 --> 02:26:16,360
Speaker 1: He can't stand straight out. Saw him pin his ears

2779
02:26:16,360 --> 02:26:18,960
Speaker 1: back and go don't yeah, And that's something LSU has

2780
02:26:18,959 --> 02:26:20,920
Speaker 1: been known to do. Go after that court he is

2781
02:26:20,959 --> 02:26:23,840
Speaker 1: a stand up and then react guy. And then it's

2782
02:26:23,920 --> 02:26:26,240
Speaker 1: then it's about and he's not big enough. And there's

2783
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:29,080
Speaker 1: a history at LSU now with Mingo not panting out

2784
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:32,119
Speaker 1: at top of the dress. Sam Montgomery was another one.

2785
02:26:32,200 --> 02:26:34,760
Speaker 1: They've had some busters now and then the Vikings ended

2786
02:26:34,800 --> 02:26:37,959
Speaker 1: up taking Stefon Diggs wide receiver out of Maryland. YEA, yeah, boy,

2787
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:40,040
Speaker 1: there here's a guy coming out of high school, was

2788
02:26:40,080 --> 02:26:42,920
Speaker 1: like a five star talent. How state wanted him? Yeah,

2789
02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:46,560
Speaker 1: Florida wandered him, everyone wanted and who knows, and who

2790
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:49,280
Speaker 1: knows he couldn't turn out to be one of those

2791
02:26:49,360 --> 02:26:53,200
Speaker 1: mid round guys. Reminded me a lot of Um Ted Gin.

2792
02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:57,959
Speaker 1: Just a linear, straight, lionish athlete who has the speed,

2793
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:01,960
Speaker 1: but you just wonder about his offensive role. Um, he

2794
02:27:02,120 --> 02:27:04,400
Speaker 1: needs to be better than he's been, and he has

2795
02:27:04,440 --> 02:27:06,640
Speaker 1: some character stuff and he has some medical stuff, so

2796
02:27:07,000 --> 02:27:09,240
Speaker 1: he does bring some baggage. But again, you know we're

2797
02:27:09,280 --> 02:27:11,119
Speaker 1: talking fifth round. It's when do you take a chance

2798
02:27:11,160 --> 02:27:14,000
Speaker 1: on these guys in Minnesota after going all defense the

2799
02:27:14,080 --> 02:27:16,680
Speaker 1: first three rounds, has gone all offense here on the

2800
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:19,720
Speaker 1: third day with t J. Clemings the tackle and then

2801
02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:22,959
Speaker 1: Michael Prue at the tight end, and then Stefan Diggs

2802
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:24,680
Speaker 1: here with pick number one. I'll tell you what I like.

2803
02:27:24,920 --> 02:27:28,400
Speaker 1: I like Clements, I really really do. I mean, I mean,

2804
02:27:28,879 --> 02:27:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I Clement I mean I was I mean

2805
02:27:31,640 --> 02:27:34,760
Speaker 1: Michael excuse me, the tight end, Michael Prue, excuse me.

2806
02:27:34,840 --> 02:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I liked him, Sure, I liked watch him. I thought,

2807
02:27:37,959 --> 02:27:40,800
Speaker 1: you talk about up the field guy, man it catch

2808
02:27:40,879 --> 02:27:44,920
Speaker 1: the foot. What's a comp for prut Is it like

2809
02:27:45,160 --> 02:27:48,640
Speaker 1: a oh, who's the green Bay guy from Texas? Um Drew?

2810
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:50,800
Speaker 1: Michael Drew, Michael Finlay. I don't know if he's that

2811
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:54,240
Speaker 1: that good of that good. But I the thing about him,

2812
02:27:54,280 --> 02:27:57,039
Speaker 1: but that at the athletic you know that the guy

2813
02:27:57,160 --> 02:27:59,400
Speaker 1: that when you watched him play, you know, up the

2814
02:27:59,560 --> 02:28:02,800
Speaker 1: field that I mean, just down the field, catch up

2815
02:28:03,040 --> 02:28:06,000
Speaker 1: all that was very very positive. I think he has

2816
02:28:06,320 --> 02:28:09,320
Speaker 1: starter potential. I do, but I worry about the effort.

2817
02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:13,080
Speaker 1: That's something that I think we need to uh he

2818
02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:16,160
Speaker 1: needs to address because he just, you know, the route running.

2819
02:28:16,240 --> 02:28:18,840
Speaker 1: He just seemed to take plays off. Um So I

2820
02:28:18,920 --> 02:28:21,160
Speaker 1: think that's why he was still available this late. Green

2821
02:28:21,240 --> 02:28:24,440
Speaker 1: Bay just bought this pick from Cleveland. And in the

2822
02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:28,440
Speaker 1: tradition of Ted Thompson, I wonder if they went in

2823
02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:30,240
Speaker 1: the fourth round here, I assume we were in the

2824
02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:33,440
Speaker 1: fifth round. If they went, you know something that he

2825
02:28:33,640 --> 02:28:37,440
Speaker 1: learned a long time ago from Ron Wolf and the

2826
02:28:37,600 --> 02:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Packers have always had a tradition of doing this, you know,

2827
02:28:41,840 --> 02:28:44,800
Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback. I wonder if Teddy has seen enough

2828
02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:48,480
Speaker 1: of say, a guy like Huntley sliding down the here's

2829
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:54,320
Speaker 1: here's the the Packers pick. But uh, a couple of

2830
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:57,080
Speaker 1: picks mine. But the Packers have always been a team

2831
02:28:57,120 --> 02:28:59,720
Speaker 1: that have been very aggressive when it comes to draft

2832
02:28:59,720 --> 02:29:01,640
Speaker 1: pick in the early nineties. Yeah, and that, you know,

2833
02:29:01,720 --> 02:29:03,560
Speaker 1: that's something that we learned in Green Bay. I mean,

2834
02:29:03,640 --> 02:29:06,440
Speaker 1: that's something that we all uh, you know. And the

2835
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:10,400
Speaker 1: fact that that uh, that they they don't have a pick.

2836
02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, there's some teams potentially they their picks all

2837
02:29:13,200 --> 02:29:15,800
Speaker 1: the way down at one sixty six. They might have

2838
02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:18,600
Speaker 1: made just a small uh not a small, but they

2839
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:21,280
Speaker 1: might have made an investment here to get traded with

2840
02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:25,240
Speaker 1: New England. Actually is that okay? So that's okay. And

2841
02:29:25,360 --> 02:29:28,920
Speaker 1: so that's and it makes sense because Belichick loves to

2842
02:29:28,959 --> 02:29:31,320
Speaker 1: load up on his draft picks, and maybe maybe Teddy

2843
02:29:31,360 --> 02:29:34,240
Speaker 1: gave him a next year's pick for this opportunity to

2844
02:29:34,400 --> 02:29:37,400
Speaker 1: draft one. But uh, let's see, it's interesting, Yeah, I

2845
02:29:38,160 --> 02:29:40,440
Speaker 1: I just the Packers are one of those teams. Again,

2846
02:29:40,520 --> 02:29:44,000
Speaker 1: my my, my experience with them and I wondered if

2847
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:45,959
Speaker 1: they were, if they were gonna readily have some Aaron

2848
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers traits about it. Well, he's a he's a pack

2849
02:29:48,720 --> 02:29:52,959
Speaker 1: twelve quarterback, you know. And and and you know, the Packers,

2850
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:56,480
Speaker 1: if you look at their situation, their backup quarterback situation

2851
02:29:56,600 --> 02:29:58,800
Speaker 1: has never been really very good. I mean, well it

2852
02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:01,240
Speaker 1: hasn't been good. You know. They always seem like it's

2853
02:30:01,480 --> 02:30:04,520
Speaker 1: toll Zene or Graham Harold. Yeah, I mean it's somebody

2854
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:07,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't you know, the kid that went off to

2855
02:30:07,280 --> 02:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Seattle and as ye, Mark Brunel, Yeah, I mean, but

2856
02:30:12,320 --> 02:30:15,520
Speaker 1: even but recently Matt Plenn was one. Yeah, I wonder

2857
02:30:15,560 --> 02:30:18,680
Speaker 1: if Teddy. I wonder if Teddy did this. He's obviously

2858
02:30:18,760 --> 02:30:22,080
Speaker 1: got somebody in mind. But this is a Packer type

2859
02:30:22,120 --> 02:30:27,480
Speaker 1: of tradition. The Larry McCarron is, we will the pick

2860
02:30:27,520 --> 02:30:29,680
Speaker 1: and let's see who the fan WinCE again is going

2861
02:30:29,720 --> 02:30:32,640
Speaker 1: to announce the pick here, but then the selection will

2862
02:30:32,680 --> 02:30:34,600
Speaker 1: come down. But I just wondered, because they're sitting there,

2863
02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:37,360
Speaker 1: They're sitting there at one sixty six, and I just

2864
02:30:38,040 --> 02:30:43,520
Speaker 1: it might be something that they're thinking about. And there

2865
02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:46,600
Speaker 1: it is. There. It is Brett Huntley quarterback from UCLA

2866
02:30:46,800 --> 02:30:50,040
Speaker 1: as called right here by Brian Brod. I just saw

2867
02:30:50,720 --> 02:30:53,680
Speaker 1: we kept talking about quarterback, and all of a sudden,

2868
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, when Green Bay went on the clock, I'm thinking,

2869
02:30:57,360 --> 02:30:59,480
Speaker 1: is this around where they would sit there and say

2870
02:30:59,560 --> 02:31:03,080
Speaker 1: we're not to wait anymore and we're gonna draft this quarterback.

2871
02:31:03,520 --> 02:31:07,440
Speaker 1: You know that's something you'd have to you know, Hey,

2872
02:31:07,959 --> 02:31:10,480
Speaker 1: that's what they do exactly. I think you nailed it

2873
02:31:10,560 --> 02:31:13,080
Speaker 1: when you said about they don't have a backup. This

2874
02:31:13,200 --> 02:31:15,720
Speaker 1: is what they did. Yeah, I mean they are known

2875
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:18,680
Speaker 1: for drafting quarterbacks late and then turning them into something,

2876
02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:21,920
Speaker 1: whether that's on their roster or trading them away for

2877
02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:26,119
Speaker 1: future assets. Quarterbacks are gold in this league. And so yeah,

2878
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:29,360
Speaker 1: with Bret Hunley, he's going to a good situation. I mean,

2879
02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:31,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in a quarterback room with Aaron Rodgers,

2880
02:31:31,720 --> 02:31:33,520
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be able to learn from one of

2881
02:31:33,560 --> 02:31:36,920
Speaker 1: the best to do it in the business. For Brett Hunley,

2882
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:39,840
Speaker 1: you thought you were going to be a first round pick,

2883
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:42,640
Speaker 1: Bret Hunley, did you end up in the fifth round.

2884
02:31:42,680 --> 02:31:44,720
Speaker 1: But you know what, you couldn't have gone to a

2885
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:47,800
Speaker 1: better situation in Green Bay, So you're not gonna be

2886
02:31:47,840 --> 02:31:50,560
Speaker 1: expected to see the field, you can sit learn and

2887
02:31:50,840 --> 02:31:52,920
Speaker 1: hopefully he takes advantage of that. And how about Green

2888
02:31:53,000 --> 02:31:56,000
Speaker 1: Bay's draft, taking Damarius Randall late in the first Quentin

2889
02:31:56,080 --> 02:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Rawlins late in the second. So you got a safety

2890
02:31:58,760 --> 02:32:01,760
Speaker 1: and a corner there, High Montgomery a wide receiver and

2891
02:32:01,800 --> 02:32:04,640
Speaker 1: he's a return gi. Yeah. And then everyone thought that

2892
02:32:04,840 --> 02:32:07,600
Speaker 1: they might even take Stephan Anthony in the first round

2893
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,040
Speaker 1: because they needed a linebacker, and they took a linebacker,

2894
02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:12,080
Speaker 1: Jake Ryan in the fourth round. And now they get

2895
02:32:12,480 --> 02:32:16,320
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback in Brett Huntley. Not a bad draft

2896
02:32:16,400 --> 02:32:19,920
Speaker 1: once again for Ted Thompson, now Teddy again. I was

2897
02:32:20,160 --> 02:32:23,480
Speaker 1: fortunate in my days to be with that group. And

2898
02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:26,080
Speaker 1: now you got guys like Scott mccluan that was there.

2899
02:32:26,120 --> 02:32:30,040
Speaker 1: He's drafting at Washington, Reggie McKenzie's drafting at Oakland, John

2900
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Snyder's drafting in Seattle, John Dorsey's in Kansas City. So

2901
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:37,240
Speaker 1: that was a pretty full room of general Yeah. And

2902
02:32:37,360 --> 02:32:39,680
Speaker 1: and so you guys are blessed to be doing radio

2903
02:32:39,800 --> 02:32:44,280
Speaker 1: with me today. So with all these general managers that

2904
02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:47,640
Speaker 1: I worked with are now at other other spots, and

2905
02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:50,920
Speaker 1: Brian brought us is here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

2906
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:53,720
Speaker 1: That's the voice of Brian Rott. Absolutely got Dane Brugler

2907
02:32:53,800 --> 02:32:58,240
Speaker 1: here too. I'm Bill Jones, and we are midway through

2908
02:32:58,280 --> 02:33:01,440
Speaker 1: the fifth round here Cowboys with no umber one sixty three.

2909
02:33:02,200 --> 02:33:05,560
Speaker 1: New Orleans at one forty eight is the team on

2910
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:10,160
Speaker 1: the clock right now to New Orleans could be out here.

2911
02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:13,680
Speaker 1: They compared Huntley the Jason Campbell. I think that's pretty fair.

2912
02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:16,240
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I just noticed. I'm sorry, that's

2913
02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:19,640
Speaker 1: again bad radio on my part, just looking at the screen,

2914
02:33:19,760 --> 02:33:22,720
Speaker 1: probably fans listening to us and watching on the NFL network.

2915
02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:25,600
Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I

2916
02:33:25,760 --> 02:33:28,280
Speaker 1: just saw a guy whose mechanics were all over the place.

2917
02:33:28,600 --> 02:33:30,880
Speaker 1: I really and I think, you know, I think that

2918
02:33:31,000 --> 02:33:33,680
Speaker 1: Tom Clements, you know, his job in Green Bay now

2919
02:33:34,200 --> 02:33:36,480
Speaker 1: is to tighten that up, you know, to to allow

2920
02:33:36,560 --> 02:33:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, to and they'll give him an opportunity to

2921
02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:42,000
Speaker 1: play again the backup situation. Bill was talking about, Hey,

2922
02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:44,600
Speaker 1: a great situation for him to go and learn, you know,

2923
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Scott Tolzine and that you know that forget that this guy,

2924
02:33:48,959 --> 02:33:51,720
Speaker 1: bring him in, let him have an opportunity, give him

2925
02:33:51,720 --> 02:33:53,119
Speaker 1: a lot of play that you're not gonna play Aaron

2926
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:55,480
Speaker 1: Rodgers very much in the preseason, if at all, and

2927
02:33:55,640 --> 02:33:57,800
Speaker 1: so let him, let him develop a little bit, and

2928
02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:00,360
Speaker 1: then uh, either you have a player that one day

2929
02:34:00,400 --> 02:34:02,840
Speaker 1: could start for or Teddy Thompson will find a way

2930
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:06,280
Speaker 1: to move that guy along for a draft pick, which

2931
02:34:06,320 --> 02:34:11,760
Speaker 1: has kind of been the green Bay way, and Green

2932
02:34:11,879 --> 02:34:15,360
Speaker 1: Bay did resigned toll Zene this off season. Yeah, well,

2933
02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:17,680
Speaker 1: Matt Flynn still out there. Matt Flynn. They see, that's

2934
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:20,080
Speaker 1: they've always there. You go, there's an up definitely upgrade

2935
02:34:20,160 --> 02:34:21,959
Speaker 1: right there. That's what you try and do. You try

2936
02:34:22,000 --> 02:34:24,000
Speaker 1: and up to upgrade the position if you can. And

2937
02:34:24,400 --> 02:34:26,320
Speaker 1: he's a he would be a good guy to do

2938
02:34:26,440 --> 02:34:33,240
Speaker 1: that with. All Right, we've got Miami not doing New Orleans. Well,

2939
02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:35,520
Speaker 1: Miami's seven o'clock now, So I did I didn't mention

2940
02:34:35,600 --> 02:34:40,120
Speaker 1: the New Orleans pick. Davis Tall, Yep, Davis Tall, the

2941
02:34:40,320 --> 02:34:43,560
Speaker 1: linebacker from Tennessee Chattanooga. That was kind of fun film

2942
02:34:43,640 --> 02:34:46,360
Speaker 1: to watch Winded Dane. Yeah, he's a good player. I

2943
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:50,480
Speaker 1: love his backstory. Just in high school he was outstanding,

2944
02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean the stats, the production, but then he got hurt,

2945
02:34:53,920 --> 02:34:56,600
Speaker 1: fell into the under the radars recruit, ends up at

2946
02:34:56,920 --> 02:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Chattanooga and then all he does at Chattanooga is produced.

2947
02:35:00,760 --> 02:35:02,959
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at his his career stats, fifty

2948
02:35:03,040 --> 02:35:08,480
Speaker 1: nine tackles for loss, thirty seven sacks. But again the durability,

2949
02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:11,400
Speaker 1: he gets hurt, h strained. Uh. I think it's a

2950
02:35:11,440 --> 02:35:14,080
Speaker 1: hamstring issue that was a big thing. His right shoulder

2951
02:35:14,440 --> 02:35:17,520
Speaker 1: needed surgery. He has hernia surgery a few years ago.

2952
02:35:18,400 --> 02:35:20,200
Speaker 1: So I think with the tool, you have a guy

2953
02:35:20,280 --> 02:35:21,960
Speaker 1: that needs to be able to stay healthy. If he

2954
02:35:21,959 --> 02:35:23,879
Speaker 1: can stay on the field for you, it's a great

2955
02:35:23,959 --> 02:35:25,920
Speaker 1: value in the fifth. Yeah, I thought a guy when

2956
02:35:25,920 --> 02:35:28,760
Speaker 1: I watched him play, I thought the initial quickness was

2957
02:35:28,840 --> 02:35:31,000
Speaker 1: outstanding and get up the field. But I think he

2958
02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:32,959
Speaker 1: has to be on the edge. He mean, he's a guy.

2959
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:34,920
Speaker 1: If he has to play toe for toe with you,

2960
02:35:35,080 --> 02:35:37,200
Speaker 1: he's not gonna He's not gonna do a very good job.

2961
02:35:37,520 --> 02:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I like the way the burst, the short air, foot quickness,

2962
02:35:40,160 --> 02:35:43,600
Speaker 1: good pursue, body control, balance, all these things. You know.

2963
02:35:43,840 --> 02:35:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he has great playing strength though. I

2964
02:35:46,160 --> 02:35:48,720
Speaker 1: think there's something that he needs to that's something he's

2965
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to work on. Uh, you know, effort and

2966
02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:54,160
Speaker 1: all that. I don't know. Maybe he's gonna have to

2967
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:55,800
Speaker 1: play in New Orleans. It's like they're probably gonna play

2968
02:35:55,840 --> 02:35:58,560
Speaker 1: him an outside linebacker. That's what my notes were. I thought,

2969
02:35:58,600 --> 02:36:01,200
Speaker 1: I thought he I thought he's gonna have conversion guy. Yeah,

2970
02:36:01,280 --> 02:36:03,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's best standing up. He's not a guy

2971
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:06,440
Speaker 1: you want um in the trenches. Yeah, like you said,

2972
02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:08,320
Speaker 1: toe to toe, that's not going to work for him.

2973
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:14,160
Speaker 1: So here's a really cool thing. You didn't bring lunch

2974
02:36:14,200 --> 02:36:15,840
Speaker 1: to Lunch was delicious. I didn't want to get it

2975
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:17,560
Speaker 1: all over the equipment in here, you know. I take

2976
02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:19,600
Speaker 1: a quick I try to go find Nick Eatman and

2977
02:36:19,680 --> 02:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and see if they wanted to do a shift.

2978
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:24,800
Speaker 1: They did not, which I'm more than happy to oblige

2979
02:36:24,840 --> 02:36:28,480
Speaker 1: with y'all. They're handling, you know, writing duties and all

2980
02:36:28,520 --> 02:36:30,879
Speaker 1: that good type of stuff. Right now, you'd much rather

2981
02:36:30,959 --> 02:36:33,959
Speaker 1: talk than write at this point. Honestly, as tiring as

2982
02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:35,280
Speaker 1: it can be to be on a show like this,

2983
02:36:35,560 --> 02:36:38,520
Speaker 1: it's I'd still rather talk than right. Are we tiring not?

2984
02:36:38,720 --> 02:36:42,600
Speaker 1: You guys? Just they'll work anyway. You're getting me off

2985
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:45,480
Speaker 1: topic here, We do that quite a bit. Cool thing

2986
02:36:45,520 --> 02:36:47,520
Speaker 1: about this job is that you can do something as

2987
02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:49,800
Speaker 1: innocuous as go to get a cup of iced tea

2988
02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:53,360
Speaker 1: and learn something pretty interesting. Uh you know who's here

2989
02:36:53,440 --> 02:36:58,520
Speaker 1: right now? Would that fa Obada if you'll remember, Yeah,

2990
02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:01,680
Speaker 1: the English player that the Cowboys took a flyer on.

2991
02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Um probably back in March maybe or April. The workout

2992
02:37:06,440 --> 02:37:09,200
Speaker 1: we watched. He played five games of organized American football.

2993
02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Everybody's asking me when he's gonna start. Well, he's he's here,

2994
02:37:12,120 --> 02:37:15,560
Speaker 1: especially British are British fan. He's watching tape with Ben Bloom,

2995
02:37:15,560 --> 02:37:17,480
Speaker 1: who's a defensive assistant. They went to go get a

2996
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:20,480
Speaker 1: little bit of long does she physically look? He's enormous,

2997
02:37:21,520 --> 02:37:25,760
Speaker 1: He's gigantic. He's six five, like he's listed at six

2998
02:37:25,800 --> 02:37:27,600
Speaker 1: to five, and he looks like he's six five. Like

2999
02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:31,720
Speaker 1: it's not being big guy, big big guy. I mean,

3000
02:37:31,760 --> 02:37:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to guess his weight, but he doesn't

3001
02:37:33,560 --> 02:37:37,560
Speaker 1: look small. Not each other. We absolutely can. I can

3002
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:40,240
Speaker 1: put it on the internet. Uh So, I mean, you

3003
02:37:40,280 --> 02:37:43,680
Speaker 1: know he's played five games of organized football. Uh, played

3004
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:48,400
Speaker 1: for an amateur team over and um. Yeah, I mean,

3005
02:37:48,520 --> 02:37:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's here, He's in America. He's at the facility,

3006
02:37:51,320 --> 02:37:54,800
Speaker 1: which means I completely expect to see him at rookie

3007
02:37:54,879 --> 02:37:58,160
Speaker 1: camp this this coming weekend. So two weekends. I think, oh,

3008
02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:05,240
Speaker 1: just no, the Miami Dolphins. I quit as you speak

3009
02:38:05,320 --> 02:38:09,040
Speaker 1: about an englishman. Another englishman has gone off the board

3010
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:12,640
Speaker 1: and jay a Gie out of Frisco Liberty High School

3011
02:38:12,640 --> 02:38:15,199
Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins, and we were speculating Miami would

3012
02:38:15,200 --> 02:38:20,040
Speaker 1: go running back at some point. Yeah, that's uh. I

3013
02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:22,320
Speaker 1: didn't see any reaction though in the war room. Right. No,

3014
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:24,960
Speaker 1: they don't really look like they care. Yeah that it's

3015
02:38:25,000 --> 02:38:27,640
Speaker 1: not anything and no U no pin throwing like I

3016
02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:31,440
Speaker 1: would have done. But I'm not a happy man right now.

3017
02:38:31,600 --> 02:38:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm not able to piety. Nine. Well, the thing about

3018
02:38:34,400 --> 02:38:36,920
Speaker 1: it is okay obviously then it was one of those

3019
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:39,640
Speaker 1: deals where the medical was job. I mean, yeah, they didn't.

3020
02:38:39,800 --> 02:38:42,320
Speaker 1: They didn't. They're trusting with their doctors, and who am

3021
02:38:42,360 --> 02:38:44,400
Speaker 1: I to say they're wrong? But yeah, and he worked

3022
02:38:44,440 --> 02:38:48,039
Speaker 1: out here like he wasn't it. He dall had the credentials,

3023
02:38:48,080 --> 02:38:49,720
Speaker 1: he could have been a thirty visit. But being a

3024
02:38:49,840 --> 02:38:51,840
Speaker 1: local guy, he was able to come in on Dallas

3025
02:38:51,959 --> 02:38:54,720
Speaker 1: day and he worked out here, and so they're able

3026
02:38:54,760 --> 02:38:58,359
Speaker 1: to take a good look at him and have decided against.

3027
02:38:58,760 --> 02:39:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's not like it's just the Cowboys.

3028
02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:03,560
Speaker 1: It's one hundred and forty eight other picks that went

3029
02:39:03,680 --> 02:39:07,400
Speaker 1: before before this guy. But uh, I mean you look

3030
02:39:07,440 --> 02:39:08,800
Speaker 1: at it now. I mean, I know we talked about

3031
02:39:08,879 --> 02:39:12,240
Speaker 1: rawls in the seventh round maybe, but kind of kind

3032
02:39:12,280 --> 02:39:15,320
Speaker 1: of running thin on options for legitimate difference makers at

3033
02:39:15,320 --> 02:39:17,480
Speaker 1: the running back position at least through the draft, which

3034
02:39:17,520 --> 02:39:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean like we saw, I mean, like we talked about.

3035
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:22,160
Speaker 1: They got four. So it's a crowded backfield already. But

3036
02:39:22,280 --> 02:39:25,400
Speaker 1: it's really pretty pretty stunning to see them getting to

3037
02:39:25,480 --> 02:39:27,480
Speaker 1: this stage of the draft and all these names are gone,

3038
02:39:27,520 --> 02:39:29,880
Speaker 1: and I would have now it's now, it's about the

3039
02:39:29,920 --> 02:39:33,200
Speaker 1: guys you got. Now, it's about it's absolutely it is

3040
02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:36,400
Speaker 1: Joe rand Or. There'll be some speculation about the guy

3041
02:39:36,440 --> 02:39:38,760
Speaker 1: in Minnesota too, but they don't have it. They don't

3042
02:39:38,800 --> 02:39:43,320
Speaker 1: have it. Let But one, why would Minnesota do that

3043
02:39:43,879 --> 02:39:45,880
Speaker 1: just to have next? Again, I go back to why

3044
02:39:45,879 --> 02:39:47,560
Speaker 1: would they get rid of a guy who could run

3045
02:39:47,640 --> 02:39:50,200
Speaker 1: for two thousand yards? Right now? I don't know. I'm

3046
02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:53,200
Speaker 1: just trying to be very good. Authority from people in

3047
02:39:53,280 --> 02:39:57,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings organization ain't going anywhere second hand people inside

3048
02:39:57,040 --> 02:39:59,360
Speaker 1: the Vikings organization that if they were going to trade

3049
02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:01,160
Speaker 1: Adrian Peter and they're not going to trade him to

3050
02:40:01,240 --> 02:40:03,680
Speaker 1: the team he wants to go to the Dallas makes sense,

3051
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:06,520
Speaker 1: makes sense. So well, let's say we put that out

3052
02:40:06,560 --> 02:40:09,560
Speaker 1: of her mind so to rest. But yeah, so it's

3053
02:40:09,640 --> 02:40:12,760
Speaker 1: now the guys that have to feel good about their situation.

3054
02:40:13,000 --> 02:40:16,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Williams is fist pumping somewhere right right, Ryan Williams,

3055
02:40:16,200 --> 02:40:18,840
Speaker 1: Ryan Williams somewhere right now. Is also is Randall? So

3056
02:40:19,120 --> 02:40:22,520
Speaker 1: is battened? Well, yeah, bar the whole group. Yeah, I

3057
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:25,280
Speaker 1: just think that you know that Jerry Jones, he he

3058
02:40:25,879 --> 02:40:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, we accused him of a lot of things

3059
02:40:27,720 --> 02:40:30,440
Speaker 1: and but he did not lie to us. And that's

3060
02:40:31,920 --> 02:40:34,760
Speaker 1: I question that I rolled my eyes through the back

3061
02:40:34,800 --> 02:40:37,120
Speaker 1: of my skull when Jerry said that on Tuesday at

3062
02:40:37,160 --> 02:40:39,520
Speaker 1: his pre draft preuss call, Like, okay, Cherry running backs

3063
02:40:39,560 --> 02:40:41,800
Speaker 1: not a need cool story. Yeah, now that's not to

3064
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:44,160
Speaker 1: say they could add a seventh round guy. They could,

3065
02:40:44,200 --> 02:40:46,960
Speaker 1: but like we're talking like a joy, he was the

3066
02:40:47,040 --> 02:40:49,240
Speaker 1: last guy that you really think could make a difference

3067
02:40:49,680 --> 02:40:52,400
Speaker 1: this year. You know he's going to be Yeah, it

3068
02:40:52,440 --> 02:40:54,920
Speaker 1: could be a contributor this year. Anybody else I will

3069
02:40:54,959 --> 02:40:59,240
Speaker 1: say this, and there will be a free agent that

3070
02:40:59,320 --> 02:41:03,240
Speaker 1: they will sign sure from. And I'll say it right now,

3071
02:41:03,440 --> 02:41:06,680
Speaker 1: Cam McDaniel is going to be a Dallas cowboy, Copell,

3072
02:41:06,879 --> 02:41:10,320
Speaker 1: Copell cowboy, Notre Dame fighting Irish. Cam McDaniel will be

3073
02:41:10,360 --> 02:41:12,440
Speaker 1: a cowboy Dallas cowboy by the end of the day.

3074
02:41:12,440 --> 02:41:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go out on a live and say that.

3075
02:41:14,640 --> 02:41:18,440
Speaker 1: So there's your running back pick up. I'm this is

3076
02:41:18,480 --> 02:41:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to watch because basically what we

3077
02:41:20,959 --> 02:41:24,480
Speaker 1: what we have heard now, I mean, the Cowboys are

3078
02:41:24,520 --> 02:41:27,840
Speaker 1: comfortable rolling with this, with this foursome or trio whatever

3079
02:41:27,879 --> 02:41:31,000
Speaker 1: they wind up doing of McFadden, Randall, Williams and Dunbar

3080
02:41:31,680 --> 02:41:34,959
Speaker 1: and the potentials there, the upsides there. I mean, you're

3081
02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:37,680
Speaker 1: talking about a top ten pick in two thousand and eight,

3082
02:41:38,080 --> 02:41:40,760
Speaker 1: second round pick in twenty eleven, a guy that they

3083
02:41:40,800 --> 02:41:42,959
Speaker 1: obviously like a lot in Dunbar enough to bring him back,

3084
02:41:42,959 --> 02:41:46,000
Speaker 1: and then the fifth round pick and Randall a lot

3085
02:41:46,040 --> 02:41:47,800
Speaker 1: of potential, a lot of stuff to feel good about,

3086
02:41:47,920 --> 02:41:51,040
Speaker 1: but a lot of injuries, a lot of off field problems,

3087
02:41:51,640 --> 02:41:55,840
Speaker 1: total lack of proven production. So I mean you could

3088
02:41:55,879 --> 02:41:58,280
Speaker 1: go you could go both ways with that. I mean

3089
02:41:58,360 --> 02:42:00,720
Speaker 1: it could be gangbusters or it could be a big,

3090
02:42:01,160 --> 02:42:04,240
Speaker 1: bad kind of bust, and it's I'm just gonna have

3091
02:42:04,280 --> 02:42:06,400
Speaker 1: to wait and see how it plays out. All right,

3092
02:42:06,440 --> 02:42:10,400
Speaker 1: We've got another pick gun and another Minnesota Golden Gopher gun.

3093
02:42:10,520 --> 02:42:14,040
Speaker 1: The safety Cedric Thompson is now at Miami Dolphin. The

3094
02:42:14,080 --> 02:42:16,720
Speaker 1: Dolphins with back to back picks of Jagie and now

3095
02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:18,960
Speaker 1: Cedric Thompson, who was getting a lot of love here

3096
02:42:18,959 --> 02:42:22,320
Speaker 1: at late in the draft process. Combine snub who really

3097
02:42:22,360 --> 02:42:25,840
Speaker 1: impresses his pro day jumped off jumped off the field

3098
02:42:25,959 --> 02:42:29,520
Speaker 1: there for scouts earlier in the process after the combine

3099
02:42:29,560 --> 02:42:33,000
Speaker 1: back at March, and so Cedric Thompson not surprised to

3100
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:34,600
Speaker 1: see him get drafted. A lot of teams have been

3101
02:42:34,640 --> 02:42:38,840
Speaker 1: doing their due diligence on him. When we go back,

3102
02:42:38,920 --> 02:42:41,480
Speaker 1: we you know, now the board, we're looking at us

3103
02:42:41,520 --> 02:42:45,200
Speaker 1: with a ji off the board. You've talked about the guys,

3104
02:42:45,240 --> 02:42:48,200
Speaker 1: the best guys you have available. I mean, I've got

3105
02:42:48,640 --> 02:42:51,800
Speaker 1: I've got three fourth round guys available on my board,

3106
02:42:52,240 --> 02:42:54,560
Speaker 1: and let's take Collins out lyle Con. Yeah. No, no,

3107
02:42:54,680 --> 02:42:59,360
Speaker 1: I have I've eliminated I've eliminated Collins. But Michael Bennett,

3108
02:42:59,560 --> 02:43:01,320
Speaker 1: I've got to well, yeah, Oh see, if I got

3109
02:43:01,360 --> 02:43:03,560
Speaker 1: a third round, I should have looked up Bennett would

3110
02:43:03,560 --> 02:43:04,760
Speaker 1: be a guy for me as well. So I got

3111
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:09,120
Speaker 1: a third rounder and Bennett Newness roaches um the the

3112
02:43:09,280 --> 02:43:18,040
Speaker 1: Oregon State defensive endatcha, yeah, yeah, mutch him, guatch him.

3113
02:43:18,160 --> 02:43:21,360
Speaker 1: And then I also had Hull, the linebacker from Penn State.

3114
02:43:21,800 --> 02:43:24,160
Speaker 1: So those are the guys that I had left as

3115
02:43:24,240 --> 02:43:26,760
Speaker 1: this uh on my on my board in the fourth round.

3116
02:43:26,800 --> 02:43:30,800
Speaker 1: Bennett would be my highest rated player left on my board. Uh.

3117
02:43:30,879 --> 02:43:34,920
Speaker 1: And again we've talked about fit the one or the three.

3118
02:43:35,400 --> 02:43:37,520
Speaker 1: There must be something going on with my man Bennett,

3119
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:40,880
Speaker 1: the fact that he is not being uh selected right now. Yep, uh,

3120
02:43:41,080 --> 02:43:45,720
Speaker 1: San Francio, it was Indianapolis. Did they take San Francisco's picture?

3121
02:43:45,840 --> 02:43:49,200
Speaker 1: This is Indianapolis and they take the Stanford nose tackle

3122
02:43:49,360 --> 02:43:57,320
Speaker 1: David Perry Pari Perry p A r R y David Party. Okay,

3123
02:44:00,120 --> 02:44:04,200
Speaker 1: thoughts on him at all day. Stout nose tackle, and

3124
02:44:04,440 --> 02:44:08,080
Speaker 1: I saw him at the Shrine game up close and personal,

3125
02:44:08,440 --> 02:44:11,120
Speaker 1: and he did a nice job. He's Stout, a player

3126
02:44:11,200 --> 02:44:15,080
Speaker 1: that went to Stanford as an offensive lineman actually, and

3127
02:44:15,440 --> 02:44:17,520
Speaker 1: they moved a nose tackle and he's done a nice

3128
02:44:17,600 --> 02:44:19,920
Speaker 1: job there. Not a guy who's going to be very

3129
02:44:20,040 --> 02:44:22,400
Speaker 1: rangy and make plays away from the line of scrimmage,

3130
02:44:22,440 --> 02:44:25,520
Speaker 1: but as a two down nose tackle. That's what the

3131
02:44:25,840 --> 02:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Colts just got for their three four defense. And clearly

3132
02:44:28,320 --> 02:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is in the draft room of the Indianapolis Colts.

3133
02:44:31,760 --> 02:44:33,959
Speaker 1: They love Stanford players. Of course they got Luck, they

3134
02:44:34,040 --> 02:44:37,039
Speaker 1: got Kobe Fleeter, and in this draft they have two

3135
02:44:37,160 --> 02:44:40,920
Speaker 1: Stanford defensive lineman now and Henry Anderson and David Perry.

3136
02:44:41,440 --> 02:44:43,880
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones on the phone once again, they filled it

3137
02:44:43,959 --> 02:44:47,360
Speaker 1: a call. Here he's looking back to his right where

3138
02:44:47,440 --> 02:44:51,080
Speaker 1: the sixth and seventh round of the tags are. So

3139
02:44:51,840 --> 02:44:56,000
Speaker 1: let's see if that was a quick conversation thereon Garrett

3140
02:44:56,120 --> 02:45:00,040
Speaker 1: texting in the meantime, or he used to tweet he

3141
02:45:00,120 --> 02:45:01,960
Speaker 1: needs we need to get a Jason Merritt twitter. I

3142
02:45:02,080 --> 02:45:05,480
Speaker 1: can't think of anything that would discuss Jason Garrett more

3143
02:45:05,520 --> 02:45:10,800
Speaker 1: than the thought of together, how you doing, guys? How

3144
02:45:10,840 --> 02:45:13,600
Speaker 1: about I think the Cowboys are about Byron Jones and

3145
02:45:13,720 --> 02:45:17,920
Speaker 1: his Garret is ms and the Prescott It's almost like

3146
02:45:17,920 --> 02:45:20,440
Speaker 1: a studying for it. Huh. He was like, no, no,

3147
02:45:20,640 --> 02:45:23,360
Speaker 1: wonder he was such a Garrett guy. No question about that,

3148
02:45:25,200 --> 02:45:27,119
Speaker 1: can't do we have a your point as well made.

3149
02:45:27,320 --> 02:45:30,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a really valuable part of our football team,

3150
02:45:32,680 --> 02:45:34,879
Speaker 1: but your point as well made. Jason Garrett does repeat

3151
02:45:34,959 --> 02:45:39,760
Speaker 1: himself a lot well. Jerry Junior coaches, dude, Jerry Jone,

3152
02:45:40,040 --> 02:45:42,360
Speaker 1: he was working at as you could see, we're looking

3153
02:45:42,400 --> 02:45:45,160
Speaker 1: at We're looking at draft order. Yeah, their tags, the

3154
02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:47,200
Speaker 1: blue tags on that board. As you can see, if

3155
02:45:47,200 --> 02:45:49,840
Speaker 1: you can see the color as those are the Cowboys picks.

3156
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Those are those the far right of the board. Yeah.

3157
02:45:52,200 --> 02:45:55,400
Speaker 1: For some people get this confused. I've had people tweet

3158
02:45:55,400 --> 02:45:57,440
Speaker 1: at me and say, oh, their boards exposed that that's

3159
02:45:57,480 --> 02:45:59,920
Speaker 1: not that's not their draft Noe, that's just the draft order.

3160
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:01,920
Speaker 1: As you look at right now, Jerry and Stephen are

3161
02:46:02,000 --> 02:46:05,119
Speaker 1: looking at the board proper. Jason Garrett as well, Jerry

3162
02:46:05,160 --> 02:46:08,879
Speaker 1: Junior was was that's the tagboard. Will mcclay's now over

3163
02:46:09,400 --> 02:46:12,840
Speaker 1: at the board two where potentially they're talking about some

3164
02:46:13,120 --> 02:46:17,520
Speaker 1: moves here, Jerry Jr. Went high with his right hand.

3165
02:46:17,560 --> 02:46:20,119
Speaker 1: If I'm just someone was wanting to come and offer

3166
02:46:20,160 --> 02:46:22,160
Speaker 1: it looked like to me an early sixth round pick

3167
02:46:22,879 --> 02:46:25,840
Speaker 1: for their spot. So let's see. I mean, I'm just

3168
02:46:26,120 --> 02:46:28,720
Speaker 1: speculating right now, guys. But that's what we do. We

3169
02:46:28,800 --> 02:46:31,360
Speaker 1: get paid to speculate here. I'm all for that. But

3170
02:46:31,520 --> 02:46:33,840
Speaker 1: his it looked like he was talking about his hand

3171
02:46:33,920 --> 02:46:36,600
Speaker 1: went low where their pick was. Maybe somebody at the

3172
02:46:36,680 --> 02:46:39,600
Speaker 1: top of the sixth round was interesting because he went up.

3173
02:46:40,080 --> 02:46:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean he went down and then went up and

3174
02:46:42,160 --> 02:46:44,200
Speaker 1: then across, And that means maybe that's what they want

3175
02:46:44,760 --> 02:46:47,440
Speaker 1: someone to go right there. They should. They should auction off,

3176
02:46:47,520 --> 02:46:49,320
Speaker 1: like you know, they bring in the Texas State lotto

3177
02:46:49,400 --> 02:46:51,080
Speaker 1: winners at the start of the draft and kind of

3178
02:46:51,080 --> 02:46:53,840
Speaker 1: show them around and stuff like that. They should auction

3179
02:46:53,920 --> 02:46:56,760
Speaker 1: off a chance to sit in the war room. And

3180
02:46:57,680 --> 02:46:59,800
Speaker 1: maybe they take your cell phone away so you can't

3181
02:46:59,800 --> 02:47:02,120
Speaker 1: like tweet about it. But I was thinking about that earlier.

3182
02:47:02,200 --> 02:47:04,120
Speaker 1: How cool would it be to like beat, like actually

3183
02:47:04,160 --> 02:47:05,760
Speaker 1: be able to hear what they're talking exactly what I

3184
02:47:05,800 --> 02:47:07,320
Speaker 1: was thinking about. As things off, you'd have to have

3185
02:47:07,600 --> 02:47:11,120
Speaker 1: security exactly that just person rope them off, take their

3186
02:47:11,160 --> 02:47:14,040
Speaker 1: phone away, and don't let them out of communication. Somebody

3187
02:47:14,120 --> 02:47:17,000
Speaker 1: grabbed the card and just just run out of the

3188
02:47:17,080 --> 02:47:19,120
Speaker 1: room kind of a thing. How much somebody pay you

3189
02:47:19,240 --> 02:47:21,200
Speaker 1: to do that? I think I would be stunned to

3190
02:47:21,240 --> 02:47:23,800
Speaker 1: hear I think somebody something you could offer. There's somebody,

3191
02:47:23,959 --> 02:47:26,520
Speaker 1: somebody out there. I gotta think somebody would pay five

3192
02:47:26,600 --> 02:47:29,880
Speaker 1: figures for that, maybe more. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody.

3193
02:47:29,920 --> 02:47:32,760
Speaker 1: There's a rich dude, there's a there's a Texas there's

3194
02:47:32,760 --> 02:47:35,600
Speaker 1: a Texas oilman out there somewhere with a die hard

3195
02:47:35,680 --> 02:47:41,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys fanom suggested, I'm gonna I'm gonna yeah, next to hey,

3196
02:47:41,440 --> 02:47:44,480
Speaker 1: we have the we do those we do those, uh,

3197
02:47:44,640 --> 02:47:46,920
Speaker 1: those goals, those cost saving goals. That's how this comes.

3198
02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:49,640
Speaker 1: So are the are the running backs totally picked over? Now?

3199
02:47:49,840 --> 02:47:52,000
Speaker 1: It sure seems that one. I mean, you guys, tell

3200
02:47:52,080 --> 02:47:55,680
Speaker 1: me Bameron artist Pain. I'm just throwing out names. Cameron

3201
02:47:55,760 --> 02:47:59,039
Speaker 1: artist Pain of Auburn Well, Matt Jones Area, Josh Robinson

3202
02:47:59,080 --> 02:48:02,760
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, Alcolm Brown of Texas, Carlos Williams Florida State.

3203
02:48:02,800 --> 02:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Does he don't do anything for you? I think there

3204
02:48:04,680 --> 02:48:08,400
Speaker 1: are parents McGee, lsu Dominique Brown Louisville. I think there

3205
02:48:08,480 --> 02:48:11,080
Speaker 1: are running backs that you can take. But like I said,

3206
02:48:11,120 --> 02:48:12,960
Speaker 1: when Ninjeli went off the board, I think he was

3207
02:48:13,000 --> 02:48:15,960
Speaker 1: the last one that I would expect to contribute to

3208
02:48:16,480 --> 02:48:18,720
Speaker 1: secure a roster. So my last running back on my

3209
02:48:18,840 --> 02:48:21,600
Speaker 1: board is Rawls and that I have him in the

3210
02:48:21,640 --> 02:48:24,480
Speaker 1: fifth round even and okay, even Rawls, Like, yeah, he

3211
02:48:24,600 --> 02:48:27,480
Speaker 1: goes into training camp with four other guys, you confident

3212
02:48:27,560 --> 02:48:29,600
Speaker 1: he comes out. What I'm saying, I mean, I've got

3213
02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:31,560
Speaker 1: him high enough to where I like, I would like

3214
02:48:31,640 --> 02:48:34,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity to take him. I put him there's there

3215
02:48:34,240 --> 02:48:38,360
Speaker 1: and Alfred Morris anywhere. I mean. And that's the other thing.

3216
02:48:38,760 --> 02:48:42,080
Speaker 1: You look at these running backs this year, in contrast

3217
02:48:42,160 --> 02:48:46,080
Speaker 1: to recent years, how relatively quickly running backs went. Even

3218
02:48:46,200 --> 02:48:48,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Joseph Randall was a fifth

3219
02:48:48,360 --> 02:48:52,160
Speaker 1: round pick there were there were and Shoot Ellington was

3220
02:48:52,240 --> 02:48:55,320
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick for Arizona two years ago, and

3221
02:48:55,440 --> 02:48:57,920
Speaker 1: he quickly became a starter in this league. I mean,

3222
02:48:58,040 --> 02:49:00,280
Speaker 1: And if you remember back to twenty thirteen, when the

3223
02:49:00,320 --> 02:49:03,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys drafted Joseph Randall, they talked about him on draft

3224
02:49:03,720 --> 02:49:05,360
Speaker 1: day as the you know, they expected him to be

3225
02:49:05,440 --> 02:49:07,520
Speaker 1: a primary backup and a guy who could carry the

3226
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:11,120
Speaker 1: load from DeMarco Murray. So it's not like picking this

3227
02:49:11,360 --> 02:49:15,200
Speaker 1: late dooms you to you know, I mean, you can

3228
02:49:15,280 --> 02:49:17,520
Speaker 1: find value there and find contributors that you know, I

3229
02:49:17,840 --> 02:49:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know about it for this crez. If we get

3230
02:49:20,000 --> 02:49:22,720
Speaker 1: to okay, everybody wants to ask about Carlos Williams because

3231
02:49:22,760 --> 02:49:25,120
Speaker 1: he's a Florida State kid, you know. And I was

3232
02:49:25,120 --> 02:49:28,160
Speaker 1: just going through my notes about him. I didn't see

3233
02:49:28,160 --> 02:49:29,800
Speaker 1: a guy with a great burst. I didn't see a

3234
02:49:29,879 --> 02:49:33,480
Speaker 1: guy that almost had to stop the cut he almost

3235
02:49:33,480 --> 02:49:35,800
Speaker 1: had to stop. I didn't see lateral a jilly. I

3236
02:49:35,879 --> 02:49:37,240
Speaker 1: see a guy I'd like to see him run with

3237
02:49:37,320 --> 02:49:39,879
Speaker 1: better power for being a two hundred and thirty pound guy.

3238
02:49:40,120 --> 02:49:43,520
Speaker 1: I didn't see a creator. You know, there's he made

3239
02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:46,080
Speaker 1: some backdoor cuts in the Rose Bowl game. I saw that.

3240
02:49:46,840 --> 02:49:48,920
Speaker 1: Didn't see a great finisher. I had a hard time

3241
02:49:49,160 --> 02:49:51,520
Speaker 1: breaking runs unless he was in the open field. I

3242
02:49:51,600 --> 02:49:53,280
Speaker 1: didn't see a guy that played nearly as fast as

3243
02:49:53,360 --> 02:49:56,240
Speaker 1: his forty yard dashtime. That's why I wouldn't have Carlos

3244
02:49:56,280 --> 02:49:58,879
Speaker 1: Williams on my board right now. And I just didn't

3245
02:49:58,879 --> 02:50:00,920
Speaker 1: see And I know some people out there probably think

3246
02:50:00,959 --> 02:50:02,480
Speaker 1: that Carlos Williams is going to be a hell of

3247
02:50:02,480 --> 02:50:04,200
Speaker 1: a football. Place you have my draft guide, you will

3248
02:50:04,200 --> 02:50:06,560
Speaker 1: not see Carlos Williams in my running back rankings. Yeah,

3249
02:50:06,560 --> 02:50:08,080
Speaker 1: because I have him an h back. I think that's

3250
02:50:08,120 --> 02:50:10,640
Speaker 1: probably his best position in the NFL because he's an athlete.

3251
02:50:10,680 --> 02:50:13,959
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a traditional backfield guy who's gonna

3252
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:17,560
Speaker 1: run between the tackles. To me, he's someone you want

3253
02:50:17,600 --> 02:50:19,959
Speaker 1: on the edges. He can catch the ball, but he's

3254
02:50:20,000 --> 02:50:22,160
Speaker 1: more of an athlete than a player with a firm position,

3255
02:50:22,240 --> 02:50:25,240
Speaker 1: and so you take a chance on him at some point.

3256
02:50:25,640 --> 02:50:28,480
Speaker 1: But he also has some baggage. His off field stuff

3257
02:50:28,560 --> 02:50:29,920
Speaker 1: is something you have to worry about too. So with

3258
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:33,120
Speaker 1: Carlos Williams, I'm not even sure he's gonna be on

3259
02:50:33,160 --> 02:50:35,560
Speaker 1: a lot of boards here. I don't see him being

3260
02:50:35,560 --> 02:50:37,600
Speaker 1: an option for the Cowboy all right, And real quickly

3261
02:50:37,680 --> 02:50:39,880
Speaker 1: a couple of picks have been made. The Jets selected

3262
02:50:39,920 --> 02:50:42,640
Speaker 1: Jarvis Harrison, the offensive guard from Texas A and M,

3263
02:50:42,680 --> 02:50:45,720
Speaker 1: and then it won fifty three. San Diego selects Kyle

3264
02:50:45,800 --> 02:50:49,360
Speaker 1: a manual outside linebacker from four time national champion in

3265
02:50:49,440 --> 02:50:52,680
Speaker 1: North Dakota State. What do you think, oh, Jason Garrett

3266
02:50:52,680 --> 02:50:55,680
Speaker 1: having a little chuckle here, he's by himself. He looks

3267
02:50:55,720 --> 02:50:58,560
Speaker 1: he always he either looks like he just either looks

3268
02:50:58,640 --> 02:51:02,640
Speaker 1: pensive sad. He just looks stressed out most of the

3269
02:51:02,720 --> 02:51:04,600
Speaker 1: time on the camera. So I'm glad to see him

3270
02:51:04,640 --> 02:51:07,800
Speaker 1: having a little chuckle there because Jerry and Stephen are

3271
02:51:07,840 --> 02:51:13,560
Speaker 1: off wheeling and dealing somewhere, and I want, I wonder

3272
02:51:13,640 --> 02:51:16,040
Speaker 1: what's what's going through Jason's head right now with I

3273
02:51:16,120 --> 02:51:17,960
Speaker 1: mean and and that's I was going to ask you that,

3274
02:51:18,120 --> 02:51:20,039
Speaker 1: Brian is we talked about it in a minute ago,

3275
02:51:20,120 --> 02:51:23,240
Speaker 1: but the obvious storyline of running back doesn't look like

3276
02:51:23,320 --> 02:51:25,080
Speaker 1: a big possibility. It's still a few picks to go.

3277
02:51:25,240 --> 02:51:27,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, Michael Bennett, I mean, should I be

3278
02:51:28,040 --> 02:51:30,320
Speaker 1: terrified about why he's still here? What's what I mean,

3279
02:51:30,400 --> 02:51:34,760
Speaker 1: what's the logical what's the logical avenue? That's there's these

3280
02:51:34,840 --> 02:51:37,640
Speaker 1: unknowns when when you do what we all do here

3281
02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:42,400
Speaker 1: and these they have access to player records and we

3282
02:51:42,520 --> 02:51:45,040
Speaker 1: just evaluate the tape and that that's you're at the

3283
02:51:45,200 --> 02:51:49,360
Speaker 1: mercy really of the of that, I mean you are,

3284
02:51:49,400 --> 02:51:51,320
Speaker 1: You're at the mercy of is there something that they

3285
02:51:51,480 --> 02:51:55,600
Speaker 1: found out about medically, uh, that that we don't know about.

3286
02:51:55,640 --> 02:51:58,000
Speaker 1: It hasn't been you know, we all knew that a

3287
02:51:58,120 --> 02:52:00,600
Speaker 1: Gi had a bad knee. We we knew that, and

3288
02:52:00,680 --> 02:52:03,000
Speaker 1: we didn't find that out that later in the process. Yeah, Dane,

3289
02:52:03,200 --> 02:52:06,360
Speaker 1: Dane told everybody that that that was a case. It

3290
02:52:06,480 --> 02:52:10,240
Speaker 1: was concerned and you know, again got scalded for it.

3291
02:52:10,600 --> 02:52:13,640
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, I mean the whole thing.

3292
02:52:13,800 --> 02:52:16,800
Speaker 1: We know what's wrong with Collins, why he's not getting drafted.

3293
02:52:17,600 --> 02:52:22,520
Speaker 1: Bennett is he is he? That? Is he bad? That

3294
02:52:22,800 --> 02:52:25,960
Speaker 1: bad of a player or a person? I don't. I

3295
02:52:26,040 --> 02:52:27,960
Speaker 1: think he's a better player. Again, I had him on

3296
02:52:28,040 --> 02:52:30,600
Speaker 1: my board in the third round. You know, I I

3297
02:52:30,720 --> 02:52:32,880
Speaker 1: saw him as a guy that when you watched the

3298
02:52:32,959 --> 02:52:36,600
Speaker 1: tape at Ohio State, especially at the end and against

3299
02:52:36,680 --> 02:52:39,280
Speaker 1: good competition, I saw a guy that was making play

3300
02:52:39,360 --> 02:52:42,440
Speaker 1: and he's he's an inconsistent performer, but at this point,

3301
02:52:42,480 --> 02:52:45,280
Speaker 1: but to the point where he's not getting drafted und Yeah,

3302
02:52:45,280 --> 02:52:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by that. To me, I had him in

3303
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:49,440
Speaker 1: the third round. So I'm with you, Um, and there's

3304
02:52:49,440 --> 02:52:52,680
Speaker 1: another defensive tackle not Michael Bennett off the board. He

3305
02:52:52,840 --> 02:52:54,480
Speaker 1: was a good player. I thought he might go uh,

3306
02:52:54,760 --> 02:52:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, late third, early fourth, A good value here

3307
02:52:56,959 --> 02:52:58,960
Speaker 1: in the fifth for the plow. Davidson, not a Fresno,

3308
02:52:59,480 --> 02:53:03,800
Speaker 1: played five technique play the Nos. Yes, some offers versatility, um,

3309
02:53:04,040 --> 02:53:08,360
Speaker 1: but with Bennett inconsistent performer, but his flashes when he's

3310
02:53:08,400 --> 02:53:11,000
Speaker 1: on his game. You just watched the Michigan State game.

3311
02:53:11,080 --> 02:53:13,480
Speaker 1: You watched the Wisconsin tape. I mean, he was a

3312
02:53:13,600 --> 02:53:17,400
Speaker 1: big part of Ohio State's defense. So to see him

3313
02:53:17,440 --> 02:53:19,800
Speaker 1: still on the board tells you something's up. He turned

3314
02:53:19,840 --> 02:53:22,760
Speaker 1: off some teams for some reason. I was standing right

3315
02:53:22,840 --> 02:53:25,040
Speaker 1: next to him at the combine when he was doing

3316
02:53:25,120 --> 02:53:27,840
Speaker 1: his his interview, you know, and Mary and we were

3317
02:53:27,920 --> 02:53:30,000
Speaker 1: we were just I was listening to him talking. What'd

3318
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:32,640
Speaker 1: you think, you know, I wasn't. It wasn't like I

3319
02:53:32,680 --> 02:53:35,000
Speaker 1: didn't see a massively, you know, built guy. Saw a

3320
02:53:35,080 --> 02:53:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of a normal looking guy in the sweats, and

3321
02:53:37,840 --> 02:53:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, he's he looks bigger on tape than

3322
02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:42,960
Speaker 1: he does when I was standing next to him. But

3323
02:53:43,080 --> 02:53:46,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't talking poorly or struggling or anything like that.

3324
02:53:46,520 --> 02:53:48,440
Speaker 1: He seemed like a sharp kid. He was gonna say, hey,

3325
02:53:48,640 --> 02:53:50,760
Speaker 1: looking forward to working out, looking forward to being a

3326
02:53:50,879 --> 02:53:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, looking forward to doing the journey. I mean

3327
02:53:53,080 --> 02:53:54,960
Speaker 1: he was saying all those things that you get, you know,

3328
02:53:55,080 --> 02:54:00,160
Speaker 1: excited to hear. Soos goes to Buffalo at one fifty five. Well,

3329
02:54:00,200 --> 02:54:03,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys played Buffalo, and so Carlos Williams has an

3330
02:54:03,400 --> 02:54:06,360
Speaker 1: opportunity to prove me really wrong if he in fact

3331
02:54:06,440 --> 02:54:10,040
Speaker 1: gets the because he's I mean, they got a pretty

3332
02:54:10,040 --> 02:54:13,120
Speaker 1: good running Fred Jackson stuff. I'm just saying if he

3333
02:54:13,200 --> 02:54:15,760
Speaker 1: does play, I mean, if he does play. But I again,

3334
02:54:15,879 --> 02:54:18,320
Speaker 1: I was not a big fan of Carlos Williams. I

3335
02:54:18,400 --> 02:54:20,120
Speaker 1: know there's people. I'm sure I haven't checked Twitter, and

3336
02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I haven't done that, but I'm sure there's

3337
02:54:22,640 --> 02:54:25,440
Speaker 1: people asking me about a multitask where where Carlos Williams

3338
02:54:25,600 --> 02:54:27,320
Speaker 1: is going to have to succeed on special teams? But

3339
02:54:27,440 --> 02:54:30,920
Speaker 1: you have him as an H thirty. Yeah, and he's

3340
02:54:30,920 --> 02:54:34,000
Speaker 1: almost like a poor man's version of David Johnson, you know,

3341
02:54:34,160 --> 02:54:37,119
Speaker 1: like where he catches the ball, well, does well in space.

3342
02:54:37,240 --> 02:54:40,640
Speaker 1: He's a big kid, but he also has his baggage

3343
02:54:40,760 --> 02:54:42,640
Speaker 1: and there's some things to worry about off the field

3344
02:54:42,680 --> 02:54:46,400
Speaker 1: with him. So a terrific athlete, just not confident where

3345
02:54:46,440 --> 02:54:48,280
Speaker 1: you play him because I don't want him between the tackles.

3346
02:54:48,320 --> 02:54:51,039
Speaker 1: I don't that's not his strength. So but I think

3347
02:54:51,080 --> 02:54:53,280
Speaker 1: he can play special teams and I think he can

3348
02:54:53,320 --> 02:54:55,760
Speaker 1: make an impact there right away as a rookie. You know,

3349
02:54:55,840 --> 02:54:57,960
Speaker 1: this is at the point in most straps where I

3350
02:54:58,000 --> 02:55:02,400
Speaker 1: get frustrated as a fan because you know the team,

3351
02:55:02,480 --> 02:55:04,520
Speaker 1: they're such a well and there's such a yeah, I

3352
02:55:04,600 --> 02:55:06,560
Speaker 1: know the name. I've done research and so I know

3353
02:55:06,600 --> 02:55:10,080
Speaker 1: who the players are, and teams go so much for

3354
02:55:10,320 --> 02:55:12,920
Speaker 1: need at this point rather than taking just take the

3355
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:15,200
Speaker 1: best player there. The player that I like right now

3356
02:55:15,800 --> 02:55:18,840
Speaker 1: is Kenny Bell, the wide receiver from Nebraska. That's that's

3357
02:55:18,920 --> 02:55:22,400
Speaker 1: my guy, right They need they need their Dwayne Harris

3358
02:55:22,520 --> 02:55:26,240
Speaker 1: and he and he's a gunner. I heard an interview

3359
02:55:26,320 --> 02:55:32,240
Speaker 1: with him on a serious radio where uh he he

3360
02:55:32,360 --> 02:55:34,760
Speaker 1: does all the little things. He also he's just got

3361
02:55:34,840 --> 02:55:37,520
Speaker 1: a flare about him too. He's a team leader type

3362
02:55:37,600 --> 02:55:39,959
Speaker 1: he is. And he's a four He's the Nebraska's all

3363
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:43,160
Speaker 1: time leading receiver, a four year starter, son of an

3364
02:55:43,240 --> 02:55:46,640
Speaker 1: NFL player. He looks like a pipe cleaner when he's

3365
02:55:46,680 --> 02:55:49,840
Speaker 1: he's so skinny, and he he had single digit reps

3366
02:55:49,840 --> 02:55:52,240
Speaker 1: of two twenty five. But you watch him block, see

3367
02:55:52,280 --> 02:55:57,280
Speaker 1: that killer block. He's a tough SOB. With Google right now, YouTube,

3368
02:55:58,160 --> 02:56:00,960
Speaker 1: just put Kenny Bell block, can You'll see the most

3369
02:56:01,120 --> 02:56:04,920
Speaker 1: unbelieving he's the best blocker blocking wide receiver in this draft. Yeah,

3370
02:56:05,000 --> 02:56:07,519
Speaker 1: and he's got he does value, he's got some returnability

3371
02:56:07,560 --> 02:56:10,120
Speaker 1: to him. I mean, and I mean before we got

3372
02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:16,600
Speaker 1: sidetracked by by William Carlos Williams, great contemporary poet, went

3373
02:56:16,640 --> 02:56:20,560
Speaker 1: over my head that I'm such a scholar, such a nerd.

3374
02:56:20,600 --> 02:56:22,160
Speaker 1: I ha, hey, you know what, I'm so proud that

3375
02:56:22,280 --> 02:56:26,320
Speaker 1: somebody from LSU could even identify that, um no, I

3376
02:56:26,400 --> 02:56:28,480
Speaker 1: was gonna. I mean, we talked a lot about time Montgomery.

3377
02:56:28,560 --> 02:56:30,880
Speaker 1: He obviously went off the board way early, as did

3378
02:56:31,000 --> 02:56:35,760
Speaker 1: Tyler Tyler Lockett, but Tony that that Dwayne Harris replacement

3379
02:56:35,879 --> 02:56:38,200
Speaker 1: is still something that the Cowboys need. So maybe that

3380
02:56:38,400 --> 02:56:40,600
Speaker 1: maybe Kenny Bell is a guy that they might identify.

3381
02:56:41,080 --> 02:56:43,760
Speaker 1: There is a guy, a seventh round guy, the guy

3382
02:56:43,840 --> 02:56:47,280
Speaker 1: from Henderson State who they brought in wide receiver Allas

3383
02:56:47,360 --> 02:56:51,640
Speaker 1: day Us Drisco. Yeah, yeah, Friscoe Wake Glent High School

3384
02:56:52,000 --> 02:56:54,959
Speaker 1: would be a possibility in the seventh I still I'm

3385
02:56:55,000 --> 02:56:58,279
Speaker 1: still gonna hold on my guy with with lucky widehead.

3386
02:56:58,360 --> 02:57:01,080
Speaker 1: See if you get lucky later. Yeah, as I and

3387
02:57:01,360 --> 02:57:03,240
Speaker 1: I know on my sheet, and I'm apologize if people

3388
02:57:03,240 --> 02:57:05,600
Speaker 1: are reading about him, I did the same thing you did.

3389
02:57:06,040 --> 02:57:08,680
Speaker 1: I put him at South alban He's a Florida Atlantic.

3390
02:57:09,040 --> 02:57:11,720
Speaker 1: His uniforms look similar or something, and I did something wrong.

3391
02:57:12,080 --> 02:57:13,720
Speaker 1: Maybe I was following what you were doing and I

3392
02:57:14,200 --> 02:57:16,720
Speaker 1: put him in fault. But no, I I had scouted

3393
02:57:16,800 --> 02:57:18,880
Speaker 1: the player, and I think that when you talk about

3394
02:57:18,959 --> 02:57:22,360
Speaker 1: guys that are returners, that he could be. This guy

3395
02:57:22,600 --> 02:57:24,520
Speaker 1: has got a lot of a billion And if we're

3396
02:57:24,520 --> 02:57:27,240
Speaker 1: get into seventh round and that name is still floating around,

3397
02:57:27,280 --> 02:57:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump up on the table for that that

3398
02:57:30,000 --> 02:57:32,760
Speaker 1: type of player. But I do agree with you about

3399
02:57:32,840 --> 02:57:35,240
Speaker 1: Bella and I have him. I have him in the

3400
02:57:35,320 --> 02:57:38,640
Speaker 1: sixth round. Round, I him the sixth round. I like

3401
02:57:38,800 --> 02:57:40,800
Speaker 1: him as a blocker. I think he can make plays

3402
02:57:40,840 --> 02:57:43,600
Speaker 1: catching the football. They throw him a lot of screens

3403
02:57:43,640 --> 02:57:46,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I think, you know, when you

3404
02:57:46,320 --> 02:57:48,440
Speaker 1: talk about route running, I think those are all things

3405
02:57:48,480 --> 02:57:50,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna need work on. But you're right, Dane. Physically,

3406
02:57:51,200 --> 02:57:54,760
Speaker 1: for someone so thin he is, he is he make

3407
02:57:55,080 --> 02:57:58,200
Speaker 1: he's tough. I mean he's a tough guy, right. Yeah.

3408
02:57:58,320 --> 02:58:00,760
Speaker 1: What do we make of the movement here in the room. Well,

3409
02:58:00,760 --> 02:58:03,600
Speaker 1: you got Jerry Jones Junior is working with Will McClay

3410
02:58:03,640 --> 02:58:07,200
Speaker 1: and laptops and tablets and all sorts of fun stuff.

3411
02:58:07,320 --> 02:58:10,680
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones is over looking at Uther over on the

3412
02:58:11,120 --> 02:58:13,280
Speaker 1: X side of the screen. They're watching our show right now.

3413
02:58:13,560 --> 02:58:16,360
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, we'll pick a guy will at least

3414
02:58:16,360 --> 02:58:18,840
Speaker 1: there's some movement. There's some movement going on here. I

3415
02:58:18,879 --> 02:58:20,720
Speaker 1: mean it makes sense. Six and Eddy on the clock

3416
02:58:20,800 --> 02:58:23,320
Speaker 1: at one fifty seven, Cowboys six picks away at one

3417
02:58:23,560 --> 02:58:26,360
Speaker 1: sixty three. Yeah, I'm just I wonder if they're really

3418
02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:28,640
Speaker 1: thinking about making that move back, you know, if they

3419
02:58:28,720 --> 02:58:31,440
Speaker 1: if in fact that they that they don't want to

3420
02:58:31,480 --> 02:58:33,520
Speaker 1: be out of the sixth round, maybe they you know,

3421
02:58:33,959 --> 02:58:36,480
Speaker 1: maybe they can move back a little fifth round. Well no,

3422
02:58:36,600 --> 02:58:38,200
Speaker 1: but you do pick up an extra pick, maybe they

3423
02:58:38,240 --> 02:58:40,080
Speaker 1: maybe you could pick up what can you you move

3424
02:58:40,160 --> 02:58:43,640
Speaker 1: back at this point in the draft, you you move back? Say, uh,

3425
02:58:43,959 --> 02:58:46,400
Speaker 1: you're looking if you Dave go away back sixth round

3426
02:58:46,440 --> 02:58:49,360
Speaker 1: you're going shoot, Yeah, where you go, Dave go go

3427
02:58:49,560 --> 02:58:52,160
Speaker 1: just go back to go back to the top of

3428
02:58:52,200 --> 02:58:54,480
Speaker 1: the six if you want any right, let's well we

3429
02:58:54,560 --> 02:58:57,320
Speaker 1: got compisit toys after that one seventies? Yeah, that's a

3430
02:58:57,400 --> 02:59:00,160
Speaker 1: lot of players, that's that's true. So you got up

3431
02:59:00,200 --> 02:59:02,600
Speaker 1: in fifteen, say you drop fifteen picks from one sixty

3432
02:59:02,600 --> 02:59:05,920
Speaker 1: three to one seventy eight. What are you get in return? Yeah,

3433
02:59:06,080 --> 02:59:09,119
Speaker 1: one sixty three to one seventy eight. That's and that's

3434
02:59:09,160 --> 02:59:11,560
Speaker 1: the problem with these late round picks. That's only a

3435
02:59:11,680 --> 02:59:15,840
Speaker 1: difference of six points. That's you're getting a seventh rounder

3436
02:59:16,280 --> 02:59:19,000
Speaker 1: most getting most under mate. Well you could get maybe

3437
02:59:19,040 --> 02:59:21,400
Speaker 1: a next year's pick. Maybe somebody say I'll give you

3438
02:59:21,480 --> 02:59:24,160
Speaker 1: next year's five to do this. The most valuable seventh

3439
02:59:24,240 --> 02:59:26,640
Speaker 1: round pick is only worth four points. So yeah, maybe

3440
02:59:26,640 --> 02:59:29,160
Speaker 1: you take a seventh rounder. Yeah, you're getting a lot, though,

3441
02:59:29,280 --> 02:59:32,000
Speaker 1: I think you have to be you know, take your guy,

3442
02:59:32,080 --> 02:59:33,640
Speaker 1: if you go, if you if you're down, if you

3443
02:59:33,720 --> 02:59:37,280
Speaker 1: trade back, you've got to sweat, sweat those compensatory picks.

3444
02:59:37,360 --> 02:59:39,959
Speaker 1: But that don't get traded. But maybe your guy goes.

3445
02:59:40,040 --> 02:59:43,480
Speaker 1: There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, there's

3446
02:59:43,560 --> 02:59:46,879
Speaker 1: eight compensatory picks. Okay, Will's grabbing the phone now. People

3447
02:59:46,879 --> 02:59:48,680
Speaker 1: are trying to call in for somebody's trying to get

3448
02:59:48,720 --> 02:59:51,119
Speaker 1: to this one sixty three. This is the most activity

3449
02:59:51,520 --> 02:59:55,119
Speaker 1: that they've had in the war room today. Well today overall,

3450
02:59:55,280 --> 02:59:57,480
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so.

3451
02:59:58,120 --> 03:00:01,240
Speaker 1: They got pretty active there when they were coming up

3452
03:00:01,280 --> 03:00:05,960
Speaker 1: on Randy Cincinnati took their time with this pick. Will

3453
03:00:06,080 --> 03:00:08,280
Speaker 1: mcclays like, what are you talking about? What are you?

3454
03:00:08,400 --> 03:00:10,880
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Well, that's are you up to,

3455
03:00:10,959 --> 03:00:15,080
Speaker 1: Will McClay. You know somebody they're interested here. Here's Will's

3456
03:00:15,080 --> 03:00:17,840
Speaker 1: going to hand the phone off to Steve Even. Yeah,

3457
03:00:17,920 --> 03:00:20,800
Speaker 1: and so I mean, but judging by the phone in question,

3458
03:00:20,920 --> 03:00:23,920
Speaker 1: this is this looks this sounds like a trade, right

3459
03:00:24,040 --> 03:00:28,000
Speaker 1: you can tell by that phone. Yeah, this is the

3460
03:00:28,040 --> 03:00:30,720
Speaker 1: phones that they all those banks of phones it's about

3461
03:00:30,800 --> 03:00:34,360
Speaker 1: you see about three feet wide right there. Uh, those

3462
03:00:34,400 --> 03:00:37,080
Speaker 1: are all phones with all the NFL teams on speed dial.

3463
03:00:37,120 --> 03:00:40,880
Speaker 1: They've got the teams. Uh, they've also got communication to

3464
03:00:40,959 --> 03:00:44,040
Speaker 1: the league office as well. So anything, you know, they've

3465
03:00:44,040 --> 03:00:46,800
Speaker 1: got them all right there. As far as the way,

3466
03:00:47,240 --> 03:00:49,800
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling people offering next year's picks

3467
03:00:49,879 --> 03:00:51,680
Speaker 1: here to try and get this one. I don't know

3468
03:00:51,720 --> 03:00:55,199
Speaker 1: if anybody particularly, I mean, they're they're they're they're looking like, Okay,

3469
03:00:55,200 --> 03:00:56,959
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to wow me here. But I don't

3470
03:00:57,120 --> 03:00:59,840
Speaker 1: think they're getting wild at all. They look like it.

3471
03:01:00,080 --> 03:01:02,920
Speaker 1: There's a touchdown, grabbing tight end from Auburn that just

3472
03:01:03,000 --> 03:01:10,160
Speaker 1: went to Cincinnatti CZA former quarterback. I kind of liked

3473
03:01:10,240 --> 03:01:13,480
Speaker 1: him as a late round guy. Did you have as

3474
03:01:13,480 --> 03:01:16,080
Speaker 1: a late round guy? Yeah, not very productive, not fifth

3475
03:01:16,160 --> 03:01:20,199
Speaker 1: round by seventh round. Yeah, someone that you want to develop,

3476
03:01:20,680 --> 03:01:22,800
Speaker 1: has the size, looks apart. Did a nice job at

3477
03:01:22,800 --> 03:01:27,000
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. By the way, the Cowboys at the

3478
03:01:27,080 --> 03:01:32,600
Speaker 1: tight end position obviously, Um, you got Witten and Escobar

3479
03:01:32,640 --> 03:01:34,680
Speaker 1: has got two years left, and Hannah's going into his

3480
03:01:34,800 --> 03:01:37,240
Speaker 1: free agent year is well, you know, and and I'll

3481
03:01:37,280 --> 03:01:40,280
Speaker 1: tell you what, James Hannah is a very underrated player

3482
03:01:40,680 --> 03:01:44,000
Speaker 1: in this officer. Absolutely and you look at very quietly

3483
03:01:44,120 --> 03:01:46,560
Speaker 1: what he does as a blocker and on special teams.

3484
03:01:47,040 --> 03:01:49,720
Speaker 1: James Lantley goes about life. Yeah, that he is a

3485
03:01:49,879 --> 03:01:53,280
Speaker 1: very I'll tell you what. I've always a lot of people.

3486
03:01:53,520 --> 03:01:55,800
Speaker 1: You need those kind of guys on your team. He

3487
03:01:55,959 --> 03:01:57,880
Speaker 1: is a party work. He is not exactly he is

3488
03:01:57,879 --> 03:02:00,400
Speaker 1: a stunt man. You're exactly right. He's up man. He

3489
03:02:00,440 --> 03:02:02,880
Speaker 1: does all the things that nobody else wants to do.

3490
03:02:03,200 --> 03:02:05,400
Speaker 1: He hate. He could have been one of the most

3491
03:02:05,560 --> 03:02:09,000
Speaker 1: lauded names in Cowboys history. If that fumble in Green

3492
03:02:09,040 --> 03:02:13,360
Speaker 1: Bay doesn't kind of squeak between his legs just I

3493
03:02:13,440 --> 03:02:15,360
Speaker 1: mean no, I mean, and I'm not. That's not like

3494
03:02:15,640 --> 03:02:18,360
Speaker 1: he's a scapegoat. There's a million reasons why they lost

3495
03:02:18,400 --> 03:02:21,560
Speaker 1: that game, but that could have been a huge, huge, huge,

3496
03:02:21,600 --> 03:02:24,160
Speaker 1: huge moment. Sorry to bring that up. Every Yeah, Cowboy

3497
03:02:24,200 --> 03:02:25,920
Speaker 1: fans all around are real happy one. I'm kind of.

3498
03:02:26,120 --> 03:02:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at my Twitter picture. It's time

3499
03:02:27,879 --> 03:02:29,520
Speaker 1: for you to go get some lunch. I already ate lunch.

3500
03:02:30,480 --> 03:02:32,640
Speaker 1: It was delicious. They got country fried steak, they got

3501
03:02:33,400 --> 03:02:37,400
Speaker 1: I'll be back Bill and Dane and are dying right now.

3502
03:02:37,680 --> 03:02:41,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I I you know, I the thing let's

3503
03:02:41,320 --> 03:02:48,160
Speaker 1: talk about too. But with with U with the uh yeah,

3504
03:02:48,360 --> 03:02:52,400
Speaker 1: oh there you go, West Virginia Edge rusher. But I

3505
03:02:53,080 --> 03:02:55,840
Speaker 1: was not enthused with shack Ritic at all. Well, not

3506
03:02:55,959 --> 03:02:58,440
Speaker 1: for this. I sound like I hate every player you do.

3507
03:02:58,560 --> 03:03:01,760
Speaker 1: And it's okay, not not for this defense three four

3508
03:03:02,080 --> 03:03:04,440
Speaker 1: outside back or a guy you want space boy. He

3509
03:03:05,480 --> 03:03:07,920
Speaker 1: for somebody that's light. It's supposed to be able to

3510
03:03:08,040 --> 03:03:10,959
Speaker 1: rush up the field and all that. He doesn't get.

3511
03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean, his first move is extend hands and run well,

3512
03:03:14,320 --> 03:03:17,560
Speaker 1: and it's tough because he was an FCS All American

3513
03:03:17,560 --> 03:03:20,080
Speaker 1: and at Gardner, Webb transferred to West Virginia for a

3514
03:03:20,160 --> 03:03:22,640
Speaker 1: senior year, and he was just kind of lost in

3515
03:03:22,720 --> 03:03:25,200
Speaker 1: that three three five defense where you know, he just

3516
03:03:25,360 --> 03:03:27,720
Speaker 1: he played on the on the line. They didn't really

3517
03:03:27,920 --> 03:03:30,600
Speaker 1: play him to his strength, and so um, it was

3518
03:03:30,640 --> 03:03:33,040
Speaker 1: almost a lost year for Riddick. But I mean, he

3519
03:03:33,080 --> 03:03:35,840
Speaker 1: had a nice game against Baylor. You saw the flashes

3520
03:03:35,920 --> 03:03:40,480
Speaker 1: and round. He was a combined snub, a player who

3521
03:03:40,600 --> 03:03:42,480
Speaker 1: I would not be shocked if we hear more about

3522
03:03:42,560 --> 03:03:44,680
Speaker 1: him in the in the coming years, A guy I'd

3523
03:03:44,720 --> 03:03:47,440
Speaker 1: like to develop here in the fifth round. I tell

3524
03:03:47,440 --> 03:03:50,480
Speaker 1: you what, man, if you've got a lot better report

3525
03:03:50,520 --> 03:03:52,240
Speaker 1: on him than I do. Because I didn't think he

3526
03:03:52,320 --> 03:03:54,880
Speaker 1: had enough power to handle tackles. I think he needed

3527
03:03:54,879 --> 03:03:57,000
Speaker 1: to play wide to have any type of chance. He

3528
03:03:57,080 --> 03:04:01,040
Speaker 1: needs space, Yeah, absolutely, And he allowed himself. You know,

3529
03:04:01,160 --> 03:04:03,680
Speaker 1: you figure somebody with his athletic ability could not allow

3530
03:04:03,800 --> 03:04:05,840
Speaker 1: himself to be hooked. And he and there was several

3531
03:04:05,920 --> 03:04:09,840
Speaker 1: times Texas A and M watching like a buoy and

3532
03:04:09,959 --> 03:04:12,760
Speaker 1: those guys play, you know, I mean he got hooked

3533
03:04:13,120 --> 03:04:16,080
Speaker 1: and that was in the Texas game. You know he

3534
03:04:16,160 --> 03:04:18,920
Speaker 1: had seven sex and three of them came against Baylor. Yeah.

3535
03:04:19,160 --> 03:04:21,360
Speaker 1: That there you go, that's the game you watch, But

3536
03:04:22,040 --> 03:04:23,720
Speaker 1: I just that was the big upset, That was the

3537
03:04:23,840 --> 03:04:26,160
Speaker 1: big game, Baylor loss. I just don't think he finished

3538
03:04:26,200 --> 03:04:28,199
Speaker 1: his plays well in a feather two. He's two hundred

3539
03:04:28,200 --> 03:04:30,920
Speaker 1: and forty four pounds, he's six six. You know, he's

3540
03:04:31,040 --> 03:04:33,879
Speaker 1: got some of the same measurables as our guy here,

3541
03:04:34,000 --> 03:04:36,440
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. But that just goes to show that's not

3542
03:04:36,640 --> 03:04:39,360
Speaker 1: all measurables. You got to be able to have some

3543
03:04:39,440 --> 03:04:41,480
Speaker 1: pass rush moves. You gotta be able to finish. Yeah,

3544
03:04:41,520 --> 03:04:43,560
Speaker 1: you gotta be instead of just running up the field

3545
03:04:43,600 --> 03:04:45,960
Speaker 1: and extending your hands in the blocker, you've got to

3546
03:04:46,000 --> 03:04:47,720
Speaker 1: find a way to dip your shoulder and get around

3547
03:04:47,720 --> 03:04:50,240
Speaker 1: the corner. Which is the question mark on Denil Hunter

3548
03:04:50,280 --> 03:04:53,320
Speaker 1: at LSU. He stands, He stands straight up and coaching.

3549
03:04:53,520 --> 03:04:54,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's what they'll get to hear in

3550
03:04:54,959 --> 03:04:57,520
Speaker 1: the NFL say they don't coach with West Virginia not

3551
03:04:57,800 --> 03:05:00,560
Speaker 1: very well. Oh whoa Daniel Hold person? Where are you

3552
03:05:00,600 --> 03:05:05,400
Speaker 1: at the wide receivers? Well, And that's the thing is,

3553
03:05:05,560 --> 03:05:07,520
Speaker 1: you know you have the big part of coaching is

3554
03:05:07,600 --> 03:05:10,000
Speaker 1: realizing what the strengths are and what the weaknesses are.

3555
03:05:10,200 --> 03:05:12,760
Speaker 1: You play them to their strengths. You work on their weaknesses.

3556
03:05:12,920 --> 03:05:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they did that with Shack Riddick. He

3557
03:05:14,560 --> 03:05:17,760
Speaker 1: was underutilized at West Virginia. UM. I think Arizona and

3558
03:05:17,760 --> 03:05:21,240
Speaker 1: what they'll do a nice job developing his talent. I'm

3559
03:05:21,560 --> 03:05:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by the body language. Like Stephen Jones is

3560
03:05:24,959 --> 03:05:27,640
Speaker 1: over here by the board on the right side of

3561
03:05:27,680 --> 03:05:30,360
Speaker 1: the screen, Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett are kind of looking.

3562
03:05:30,800 --> 03:05:32,680
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like, I don't know, is

3563
03:05:32,680 --> 03:05:35,320
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones like what? What? What? What are we things

3564
03:05:35,400 --> 03:05:37,440
Speaker 1: going on? Here? Is somebody making a case for a pick?

3565
03:05:37,520 --> 03:05:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're talking about what names are

3566
03:05:40,520 --> 03:05:43,080
Speaker 1: left and can in fact they make a trade and

3567
03:05:43,200 --> 03:05:45,760
Speaker 1: go down, they'll be able to get that guys they want.

3568
03:05:46,040 --> 03:05:47,880
Speaker 1: That's what they're That's what they're thinking about right now.

3569
03:05:48,080 --> 03:05:50,320
Speaker 1: If they do trade back, are they okay? If they

3570
03:05:50,400 --> 03:05:52,320
Speaker 1: miss out on a guy? Is there another option? What's

3571
03:05:52,360 --> 03:05:54,280
Speaker 1: their plan? The other thing is okay? So I say

3572
03:05:54,280 --> 03:05:57,119
Speaker 1: a team is offering a seventh rounder a right, what's

3573
03:05:57,160 --> 03:05:59,680
Speaker 1: the value of that seventh rounder or that person that

3574
03:05:59,760 --> 03:06:03,160
Speaker 1: you think you getting a seventh round? You have to

3575
03:06:03,240 --> 03:06:05,240
Speaker 1: take a seventh round pick on a guy rather than

3576
03:06:05,400 --> 03:06:08,000
Speaker 1: making him a priority free agent. The gentleman standing in

3577
03:06:08,040 --> 03:06:11,039
Speaker 1: the very back. There's Walter Julie for a long time scout.

3578
03:06:11,120 --> 03:06:14,000
Speaker 1: He's been here since the late eighties, longer than I've

3579
03:06:14,000 --> 03:06:16,600
Speaker 1: been all and Walter is when the thing that Walter's

3580
03:06:16,640 --> 03:06:18,760
Speaker 1: done now is he has been responsible. They put him

3581
03:06:18,760 --> 03:06:21,760
Speaker 1: in responsibly with the offensive line. So the last couple

3582
03:06:21,760 --> 03:06:25,879
Speaker 1: of years, I think, starting back with the with Tyren Smith,

3583
03:06:26,040 --> 03:06:28,520
Speaker 1: Walter has been the cross checker for the offensive line.

3584
03:06:28,520 --> 03:06:30,240
Speaker 1: Do you think it's telling that? Well, now, I just

3585
03:06:30,400 --> 03:06:32,440
Speaker 1: know Walter's the guy does he knows all the he's

3586
03:06:32,440 --> 03:06:34,879
Speaker 1: a national guy, he knows, but his cross check position

3587
03:06:35,400 --> 03:06:37,959
Speaker 1: is offensive line. So the offensive lineman that they've been

3588
03:06:38,000 --> 03:06:41,000
Speaker 1: able to bring in, Walter Julie, who's standing now in

3589
03:06:41,080 --> 03:06:43,560
Speaker 1: Chris Hall's office, has been the scout that's responsible for that.

3590
03:06:43,879 --> 03:06:47,400
Speaker 1: Do you perceive now that they've signed or they've drafted

3591
03:06:47,520 --> 03:06:52,200
Speaker 1: Chaz Green, we don't talk about the interior offensive lineman much,

3592
03:06:52,280 --> 03:06:55,480
Speaker 1: but they talk always needing to be on the lookout. J. J.

3593
03:06:55,760 --> 03:07:00,200
Speaker 1: Nelson from the Funcked program at UAB has found to

3594
03:07:00,320 --> 03:07:02,560
Speaker 1: home in the NFL as he is drafted by the

3595
03:07:02,640 --> 03:07:04,960
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. I'll say what This son of a gun

3596
03:07:05,080 --> 03:07:07,000
Speaker 1: can fly. I mean when you watch, I mean he

3597
03:07:07,160 --> 03:07:11,080
Speaker 1: is small, he's yeah, wait wise, I mean he's wight wise,

3598
03:07:11,240 --> 03:07:13,240
Speaker 1: very small. But you watched the game and when they

3599
03:07:13,360 --> 03:07:16,840
Speaker 1: when and I remember the Mississippi State game especially, teams

3600
03:07:16,920 --> 03:07:19,119
Speaker 1: got backed up into into the end zone and having

3601
03:07:19,160 --> 03:07:21,080
Speaker 1: a punt out and he's got his feet standing on

3602
03:07:21,160 --> 03:07:24,640
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line catch and then bom, next you know,

3603
03:07:24,760 --> 03:07:26,640
Speaker 1: he's handing the ball the official. He's one of those

3604
03:07:26,720 --> 03:07:29,760
Speaker 1: types of players. So uh, it's it's nice to see you.

3605
03:07:29,920 --> 03:07:33,560
Speaker 1: You've talked about Bill Uab no longer playing football. I

3606
03:07:33,640 --> 03:07:37,480
Speaker 1: think that's a real shame. But this kid right here, man,

3607
03:07:37,560 --> 03:07:41,320
Speaker 1: you talk about a returner. I purse again had had

3608
03:07:41,440 --> 03:07:44,680
Speaker 1: Whitehead better than him. But Nelson's a guy. I could

3609
03:07:44,720 --> 03:07:47,560
Speaker 1: see the Arizona Cardinals doing some things with him as

3610
03:07:47,600 --> 03:07:51,120
Speaker 1: a returner. With Nelson six career special teams touchdown yeah,

3611
03:07:51,440 --> 03:07:54,040
Speaker 1: five on kicks, went on punt You're right, he flies

3612
03:07:54,400 --> 03:07:56,400
Speaker 1: at the combine. He showed that with that forty yard

3613
03:07:56,520 --> 03:07:58,920
Speaker 1: dash that he had um a player that Yeah, I

3614
03:07:58,920 --> 03:08:00,560
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get out of him on

3615
03:08:00,640 --> 03:08:03,160
Speaker 1: offense because he has one hundred and fifty six pounds,

3616
03:08:03,280 --> 03:08:06,280
Speaker 1: one hit, and you know he could be outside a

3617
03:08:06,280 --> 03:08:09,280
Speaker 1: few games. So but what he gives you on special teams,

3618
03:08:09,280 --> 03:08:11,080
Speaker 1: that's why they're drafting him here in the fifth round,

3619
03:08:11,840 --> 03:08:13,960
Speaker 1: and that's why he's going to have an NFL future.

3620
03:08:14,640 --> 03:08:18,480
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is their pick is in. It's Pittsburgh at one sixty,

3621
03:08:18,640 --> 03:08:23,400
Speaker 1: Carolina at one sixty one, or at Tampa Oakland. I

3622
03:08:23,480 --> 03:08:25,600
Speaker 1: mean it won sixty one and then Tampa Bay at

3623
03:08:25,600 --> 03:08:28,960
Speaker 1: one sixty two, So it's it would be what three

3624
03:08:29,080 --> 03:08:32,960
Speaker 1: picks to Dallas now, well technically two, Yeah, Jesse James

3625
03:08:33,320 --> 03:08:36,640
Speaker 1: got to Pittsburgh. Yeah, tight end, post up tight end.

3626
03:08:37,120 --> 03:08:39,160
Speaker 1: He's someone you want in the red zone. And you

3627
03:08:39,240 --> 03:08:41,440
Speaker 1: think his best football is ahead of him because you

3628
03:08:41,560 --> 03:08:44,400
Speaker 1: look at him, the measurables are there. He looks like

3629
03:08:44,440 --> 03:08:46,680
Speaker 1: he should be better than he is or the production says.

3630
03:08:47,640 --> 03:08:50,880
Speaker 1: But he can post up with defenders and really, you know,

3631
03:08:50,959 --> 03:08:52,879
Speaker 1: be an impact in the red zone. He's a soft

3632
03:08:52,959 --> 03:08:54,960
Speaker 1: he's as soft as a baby's. But when he as

3633
03:08:54,959 --> 03:08:56,920
Speaker 1: a point of attack blocker, right, he needs to get

3634
03:08:56,959 --> 03:08:58,720
Speaker 1: that as a drop. Needs to do a better job

3635
03:08:59,000 --> 03:09:01,400
Speaker 1: playing up to when you're when you're six six in

3636
03:09:01,520 --> 03:09:03,680
Speaker 1: his way, you have got to be a better point

3637
03:09:03,720 --> 03:09:06,720
Speaker 1: of attack Brocker and take advantage of how big you are,

3638
03:09:07,000 --> 03:09:09,600
Speaker 1: and Jesse James does not do that. Now, you're absolutely right.

3639
03:09:09,959 --> 03:09:12,480
Speaker 1: He's a guy that can make contested catches because he's

3640
03:09:12,520 --> 03:09:14,640
Speaker 1: got size. He makes it difficult for guys to get

3641
03:09:14,680 --> 03:09:17,240
Speaker 1: around him. But for being a guy that big, he again,

3642
03:09:17,360 --> 03:09:19,840
Speaker 1: he is a very soft football player at the point

3643
03:09:19,879 --> 03:09:25,160
Speaker 1: of attack, and he is a Pittsburgh Steeler. Now, Jesse James.

3644
03:09:25,959 --> 03:09:29,160
Speaker 1: The Assassination of Jesse Jamess by a coward Robert Ford

3645
03:09:29,840 --> 03:09:33,320
Speaker 1: a good movie. Check it out, Brad Pitt is there

3646
03:09:33,400 --> 03:09:35,080
Speaker 1: is there a way? Is there a reasona This is

3647
03:09:35,120 --> 03:09:37,240
Speaker 1: the reason why we have you on this, Pitt, because

3648
03:09:37,240 --> 03:09:42,199
Speaker 1: I do things other than break down draft you know anything?

3649
03:09:42,280 --> 03:09:43,960
Speaker 1: Any get a himingway in? Yeah? I mean do we

3650
03:09:44,000 --> 03:09:46,280
Speaker 1: need me that the old man in the scene. Yeah.

3651
03:09:46,400 --> 03:09:49,240
Speaker 1: I just looked up Jesse James on Wikipedia. You know

3652
03:09:49,320 --> 03:09:52,920
Speaker 1: what the list his occupation as a gun slinger, criminal

3653
03:09:53,080 --> 03:09:58,760
Speaker 1: criminal Far from that, right now, so let's go a

3654
03:09:58,800 --> 03:10:02,240
Speaker 1: little um. The sun also rises. It's my favorite. Theah,

3655
03:10:02,240 --> 03:10:06,360
Speaker 1: that's my favorite. This pick is now Carolina, right, it

3656
03:10:07,040 --> 03:10:09,120
Speaker 1: was Oakland, but now it's Oakland's pick, and their pick

3657
03:10:09,320 --> 03:10:14,200
Speaker 1: is in uh Roakland and Tampa Bay then Dallas. So

3658
03:10:15,280 --> 03:10:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, once again, the phones, as you can see,

3659
03:10:17,840 --> 03:10:21,360
Speaker 1: are not ringing in the room. Uh. So that means

3660
03:10:21,400 --> 03:10:25,160
Speaker 1: they're they're committed Bell, Kenny Bell, They're committed to making

3661
03:10:25,400 --> 03:10:28,560
Speaker 1: their pick. It looks like, uh, if they if they

3662
03:10:28,600 --> 03:10:30,520
Speaker 1: were interested, Let's see if they get on the clock

3663
03:10:30,600 --> 03:10:33,640
Speaker 1: and what happens there. But a linebacker going to Oakland

3664
03:10:33,840 --> 03:10:37,120
Speaker 1: neuron ball. Good for him. I'd love to see that.

3665
03:10:37,520 --> 03:10:41,720
Speaker 1: A player who he's had so many obstacles with injuries. Um,

3666
03:10:41,959 --> 03:10:45,680
Speaker 1: but he's so athletic, he's a fast guy. When he's

3667
03:10:45,680 --> 03:10:48,400
Speaker 1: on the field, you can't help but notice him. Um.

3668
03:10:48,879 --> 03:10:52,160
Speaker 1: He's really had a tough stretch here with injuries early

3669
03:10:52,200 --> 03:10:54,039
Speaker 1: in his career. They didn't think he played football again,

3670
03:10:54,360 --> 03:10:57,200
Speaker 1: came back, and then his senior year got hurt again. Um.

3671
03:10:57,400 --> 03:11:00,440
Speaker 1: So I'm glad to see this going in the round.

3672
03:11:00,640 --> 03:11:04,039
Speaker 1: Certainly I gamble with his durability concerns, but if he's

3673
03:11:04,080 --> 03:11:05,960
Speaker 1: able to stay on the field, he's a heck of

3674
03:11:06,000 --> 03:11:07,720
Speaker 1: a player, someone that I would rank as a top

3675
03:11:07,800 --> 03:11:10,680
Speaker 1: one hundred talent in this class. Aam but but the

3676
03:11:10,800 --> 03:11:13,520
Speaker 1: medical stuff is a train record. It is he got

3677
03:11:13,640 --> 03:11:15,680
Speaker 1: killed and that's that's the fun part of the draft

3678
03:11:15,840 --> 03:11:18,360
Speaker 1: is Yeah, you know, maybe this is the round. I

3679
03:11:18,400 --> 03:11:21,080
Speaker 1: mean we talked about the fourth and fifth rounds. Uh,

3680
03:11:21,200 --> 03:11:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe he's a footnote in Oakland history.

3681
03:11:24,760 --> 03:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he kicks the injury bug and becomes something quick

3682
03:11:27,120 --> 03:11:30,600
Speaker 1: thing on the medicals. A congenital condition called you know what,

3683
03:11:30,680 --> 03:11:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't even have pronounced that you're scouting not a doctor, right,

3684
03:11:33,600 --> 03:11:38,480
Speaker 1: artur of vininious malformation, which is basically a blood vessel

3685
03:11:38,520 --> 03:11:41,760
Speaker 1: in his brain. Back into eleven, they didn't think he'd

3686
03:11:41,760 --> 03:11:45,320
Speaker 1: play football again. He worked his way back, regained his

3687
03:11:45,400 --> 03:11:48,240
Speaker 1: old form, and then as a Sea as a senior.

3688
03:11:48,360 --> 03:11:52,560
Speaker 1: This past year microfracture surgery. So he's had the injuries,

3689
03:11:52,640 --> 03:11:55,600
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of issues. But uh, really great

3690
03:11:55,600 --> 03:11:58,160
Speaker 1: to see him get drafted here. I just tweeted let's

3691
03:11:58,200 --> 03:12:01,320
Speaker 1: go Kenny Bell and tweeted his picture the best sports

3692
03:12:01,360 --> 03:12:05,240
Speaker 1: AFRO since Oscar Gamble. Oscar Gamble had the best. Yeah,

3693
03:12:05,840 --> 03:12:08,320
Speaker 1: but we've all talked about Kenny Bell. I mean, we

3694
03:12:08,520 --> 03:12:10,840
Speaker 1: we all like Davel I just don't I just don't know.

3695
03:12:11,080 --> 03:12:13,280
Speaker 1: It was still with with Bennett being on the board,

3696
03:12:13,640 --> 03:12:17,640
Speaker 1: nuness roaches. I just maybe that's Kenny Bell just went no,

3697
03:12:19,840 --> 03:12:24,240
Speaker 1: he goes to Tampa Bay. Maybe pick before the Cowboys.

3698
03:12:24,440 --> 03:12:27,360
Speaker 1: Maybe we did stop talking about these picks. Maybe we

3699
03:12:27,440 --> 03:12:30,480
Speaker 1: need to got a tweet to respond. Yeah, well too bad.

3700
03:12:30,560 --> 03:12:33,680
Speaker 1: But we're just we're chinks in the hut. Yeah we're not.

3701
03:12:34,000 --> 03:12:35,720
Speaker 1: We're just chinks in the heck has it's okay, So

3702
03:12:36,440 --> 03:12:39,000
Speaker 1: this means it's the cowboys turn. The Cowboys would be

3703
03:12:39,160 --> 03:12:42,040
Speaker 1: on the clock, so everybody's in the were always kind

3704
03:12:42,080 --> 03:12:44,320
Speaker 1: of getting a hint. Now whatever. A coach tends to

3705
03:12:44,400 --> 03:12:46,680
Speaker 1: walk over there and pick up the phone. Well, i'll

3706
03:12:46,680 --> 03:12:50,320
Speaker 1: tell you what. Thomas Siskowski is waiting to go on

3707
03:12:50,440 --> 03:12:52,400
Speaker 1: the phone. But they haven't gone on the phone yet.

3708
03:12:52,600 --> 03:12:56,000
Speaker 1: He hasn't got the the the thought to go on

3709
03:12:56,080 --> 03:12:57,920
Speaker 1: the phone. So let's see if he does. He's in

3710
03:12:57,959 --> 03:13:01,000
Speaker 1: the bottom left corner of your screen as you look

3711
03:13:01,080 --> 03:13:03,360
Speaker 1: at it right now. They might be waiting on a trade. Here.

3712
03:13:04,080 --> 03:13:07,080
Speaker 1: See if their phone rings, They've they've got to they've

3713
03:13:07,120 --> 03:13:10,320
Speaker 1: got time. So let's see if in fact that they

3714
03:13:10,440 --> 03:13:13,840
Speaker 1: do that. We talked about the best players on the board, though, uh,

3715
03:13:13,959 --> 03:13:16,560
Speaker 1: in my on my board, maybe not on their board.

3716
03:13:16,640 --> 03:13:20,920
Speaker 1: But we talk about Bennett Newness Roaches, hall As being

3717
03:13:20,959 --> 03:13:23,440
Speaker 1: those guys Kie Newness Roaches would be a name. I

3718
03:13:23,480 --> 03:13:26,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind here and right here, Yeah, what about the corner. Okay,

3719
03:13:26,560 --> 03:13:29,320
Speaker 1: Siskowsky has gone to the phone there. He's dialing them up,

3720
03:13:29,760 --> 03:13:31,800
Speaker 1: and so that means that they're gonna pick. They're gonna

3721
03:13:31,800 --> 03:13:34,160
Speaker 1: stand in here and make this pick. And for them,

3722
03:13:34,240 --> 03:13:38,000
Speaker 1: let's see who in fact stupid anyway, So this would

3723
03:13:38,000 --> 03:13:42,560
Speaker 1: be picked one sixty three for the Dallas Cowboys, and uh,

3724
03:13:42,879 --> 03:13:47,640
Speaker 1: we shall see who it is here. Momentarily, Siskowsky hands

3725
03:13:47,680 --> 03:13:50,480
Speaker 1: the phone off to Jerry. Okay, this is always entertaining.

3726
03:13:50,520 --> 03:13:54,240
Speaker 1: We might have some more yelling family members in the background.

3727
03:13:54,320 --> 03:13:58,960
Speaker 1: This is always fun getting Jerry's got a second instructions

3728
03:13:59,080 --> 03:14:02,440
Speaker 1: before a dressing the new Dallas Cowboy. I think Jerry's

3729
03:14:02,440 --> 03:14:05,440
Speaker 1: probably going on camera here, so that's probably why he's waiting.

3730
03:14:05,560 --> 03:14:08,680
Speaker 1: He's waiting for them to set up the shot, kind

3731
03:14:08,720 --> 03:14:12,600
Speaker 1: of like MacArthur when he came on shore. You got this,

3732
03:14:12,760 --> 03:14:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm walking on here you go. That's there's a there's

3733
03:14:14,760 --> 03:14:17,200
Speaker 1: a reference for you. You're not just a football guy.

3734
03:14:17,600 --> 03:14:20,160
Speaker 1: Well you were probably alive then too. Yeah, no, well

3735
03:14:20,160 --> 03:14:22,520
Speaker 1: are you talking about there? But no, I again, it's

3736
03:14:22,800 --> 03:14:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, uh, that's uh, we'll see who who. In fact,

3737
03:14:27,920 --> 03:14:31,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys helped me out Twitter, where's this tip my

3738
03:14:31,320 --> 03:14:33,840
Speaker 1: tip to pick for him? They're at the lunch. Yeah,

3739
03:14:34,480 --> 03:14:37,320
Speaker 1: it's not as Germanic, it's not as dramatic. It's not

3740
03:14:37,360 --> 03:14:42,000
Speaker 1: as dramatic right now. No, I'm interested. I mean, we're

3741
03:14:42,000 --> 03:14:44,360
Speaker 1: not seeing a coach in the shot here to get

3742
03:14:44,520 --> 03:14:47,640
Speaker 1: to tip us off with its offense. Defense. Nick Eaman

3743
03:14:47,760 --> 03:14:50,560
Speaker 1: is to the rescue for us. He says, Ryan Russell

3744
03:14:50,800 --> 03:14:56,160
Speaker 1: perdue defensive. Yeah, Ryan Russell does a very uh low

3745
03:14:56,240 --> 03:15:03,160
Speaker 1: key yeah, Bryan, Anthony Spencer Purdue defensive and Ryan Russell.

3746
03:15:03,400 --> 03:15:06,240
Speaker 1: You can't you can't say the Cowboys having addressed their

3747
03:15:06,320 --> 03:15:10,480
Speaker 1: defense this weekend if they I mean, I didn't have

3748
03:15:10,680 --> 03:15:14,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Russell, I didn't have that one. Is it anything

3749
03:15:14,959 --> 03:15:18,640
Speaker 1: things four two sixty nine had a one sixty two split.

3750
03:15:19,040 --> 03:15:22,400
Speaker 1: There's pro day. I guess they were just sad that

3751
03:15:22,520 --> 03:15:24,959
Speaker 1: Anthony Spencer wasn't on the roster and three sacks, six

3752
03:15:25,040 --> 03:15:27,480
Speaker 1: and a half tackles for lost and twelve starts his

3753
03:15:27,560 --> 03:15:31,640
Speaker 1: last year T year starter ten ten sacks, which is

3754
03:15:31,680 --> 03:15:34,720
Speaker 1: good number, but not for a four year starter. A

3755
03:15:34,840 --> 03:15:37,000
Speaker 1: player where you know. I even called him my my

3756
03:15:37,040 --> 03:15:40,000
Speaker 1: skying report. I called his film lack luster U. And

3757
03:15:40,520 --> 03:15:42,600
Speaker 1: I think he was a big part of him. He

3758
03:15:42,720 --> 03:15:46,879
Speaker 1: was caught out of position in the scheme as a freshman.

3759
03:15:47,240 --> 03:15:49,680
Speaker 1: I really liked what I saw Ryan Russell. I thought,

3760
03:15:49,800 --> 03:15:51,600
Speaker 1: here's a player to keep on the radar. I wrote

3761
03:15:51,640 --> 03:15:54,920
Speaker 1: his name down. Um, you know scouting Kawan Short and

3762
03:15:55,000 --> 03:15:58,720
Speaker 1: those guys back way back when. And then the Purdue

3763
03:15:58,760 --> 03:16:02,160
Speaker 1: as a coaching change, there's Ryan Russell official to the

3764
03:16:02,240 --> 03:16:04,560
Speaker 1: Dallas from Carrolton Creek View High School. He was a

3765
03:16:04,600 --> 03:16:08,120
Speaker 1: little product. Yes, um, I he was probably here on

3766
03:16:08,320 --> 03:16:10,440
Speaker 1: Dallas they then. I don't know if I remember seeing

3767
03:16:10,520 --> 03:16:13,680
Speaker 1: his name, but yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt your dango. Well,

3768
03:16:13,720 --> 03:16:15,520
Speaker 1: the Purdue had a coaching change. They switched to a

3769
03:16:15,600 --> 03:16:17,920
Speaker 1: three to four and he was caught caught out a

3770
03:16:17,959 --> 03:16:21,080
Speaker 1: position as a five technique and he didn't really adapt

3771
03:16:21,160 --> 03:16:22,800
Speaker 1: well to that new position. And I think that's a

3772
03:16:22,879 --> 03:16:27,280
Speaker 1: big part of why he struggled. But size wise, you know,

3773
03:16:27,440 --> 03:16:31,280
Speaker 1: six four two seventy pounds, four seventy five forty yard dash,

3774
03:16:31,920 --> 03:16:35,040
Speaker 1: A good a good kid too, just didn't fit what

3775
03:16:35,160 --> 03:16:38,160
Speaker 1: Purdue wanted. So he's better in a four to three

3776
03:16:38,480 --> 03:16:41,840
Speaker 1: as a as a left defensive end, and that's probably

3777
03:16:41,959 --> 03:16:43,720
Speaker 1: what he is. He's more of a backup, and that's

3778
03:16:43,920 --> 03:16:46,640
Speaker 1: what I scattered him as as a backup. Doesn't have

3779
03:16:46,720 --> 03:16:49,680
Speaker 1: a high NFL ceiling. But you know we're talking in

3780
03:16:49,760 --> 03:16:51,680
Speaker 1: these late rounds, in the fifth round, that's the type

3781
03:16:51,680 --> 03:16:55,680
Speaker 1: of player that you're you're looking for. So Ryan Russell

3782
03:16:55,800 --> 03:16:59,160
Speaker 1: is a Dallas cowboy and so one. I mean again,

3783
03:17:00,400 --> 03:17:03,680
Speaker 1: that defensive line, I mean, all of a sudden, you

3784
03:17:03,760 --> 03:17:05,760
Speaker 1: talk about it being a position of need when we

3785
03:17:05,800 --> 03:17:08,560
Speaker 1: started the weekend, All of a sudden, now you're thinking, man,

3786
03:17:09,320 --> 03:17:11,960
Speaker 1: pretty crowded room right now. I mean, you know, you

3787
03:17:12,080 --> 03:17:14,840
Speaker 1: draft Gregory and Russell in this draft class. Keep in

3788
03:17:14,879 --> 03:17:18,879
Speaker 1: mind we've lost Anthony Spencer as well as George Selvi.

3789
03:17:19,040 --> 03:17:23,640
Speaker 1: George Selva is off. You lose Henry Melton to Tampa Bay,

3790
03:17:23,680 --> 03:17:26,720
Speaker 1: and free agency, you bring back Nick Hayden, you signed

3791
03:17:26,760 --> 03:17:30,120
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy in free agency. You draft two guys at end.

3792
03:17:31,600 --> 03:17:35,039
Speaker 1: This guy's left end, you would assume, right, I would guess.

3793
03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:37,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you're saying the scheme change and all

3794
03:17:38,040 --> 03:17:42,360
Speaker 1: that day it really stunted his development because again as

3795
03:17:42,400 --> 03:17:45,600
Speaker 1: a freshman, really impressed. Uh, you know, when I was

3796
03:17:45,600 --> 03:17:48,879
Speaker 1: scouting Kawan, short defensive tackle Ryan Russell was the player

3797
03:17:48,920 --> 03:17:50,800
Speaker 1: that was jumping off the film to me. But then

3798
03:17:50,959 --> 03:17:54,240
Speaker 1: the coaching change, the scheme change, it really just halted

3799
03:17:54,280 --> 03:17:58,320
Speaker 1: his development. And you know you didn't like what you

3800
03:17:58,360 --> 03:18:01,600
Speaker 1: saw in terms of development the next few years. You

3801
03:18:01,640 --> 03:18:03,440
Speaker 1: could throw on his freshman tape and throw on some

3802
03:18:03,560 --> 03:18:06,440
Speaker 1: senior tape, not much difference between the two. So you

3803
03:18:06,480 --> 03:18:08,520
Speaker 1: didn't just you didn't see that development over the years.

3804
03:18:08,680 --> 03:18:11,240
Speaker 1: At six five, two seventy three, Bill, I would, Yeah,

3805
03:18:11,240 --> 03:18:14,640
Speaker 1: I'd have to assume a left defensive end, which I mean,

3806
03:18:14,920 --> 03:18:18,400
Speaker 1: granted that's something. Right end is the one that generates

3807
03:18:18,440 --> 03:18:21,360
Speaker 1: the sacks, but it's you can't ignore that either, is

3808
03:18:21,440 --> 03:18:23,600
Speaker 1: what do you think the depth chart is at left

3809
03:18:23,680 --> 03:18:27,520
Speaker 1: defensive end of Marcus Lawrence as your starter, right Jack Crawford.

3810
03:18:27,640 --> 03:18:30,840
Speaker 1: Jack Crawford would be too. Gardner, Ben Gardner is probably

3811
03:18:30,840 --> 03:18:33,320
Speaker 1: a left defensive end as well. And Ben Gardner and

3812
03:18:33,400 --> 03:18:35,160
Speaker 1: this guy are going to fight out for a spot.

3813
03:18:35,440 --> 03:18:39,160
Speaker 1: Maybe leon Let's in the room had shakes all around.

3814
03:18:39,480 --> 03:18:41,480
Speaker 1: Leon must have went and worked this guy out, and

3815
03:18:41,959 --> 03:18:45,680
Speaker 1: this is one of his guys, so good for good

3816
03:18:45,680 --> 03:18:48,400
Speaker 1: for Leon Let If that in fact that is the case,

3817
03:18:48,560 --> 03:18:50,680
Speaker 1: this is all None of this will matter when fa

3818
03:18:50,760 --> 03:18:55,680
Speaker 1: Obada is the starting left end day season. Keep an

3819
03:18:55,720 --> 03:18:59,360
Speaker 1: eye on all fa see what happens there. So it

3820
03:18:59,360 --> 03:19:02,480
Speaker 1: with just two picks left, both in the seventh round.

3821
03:19:02,840 --> 03:19:05,680
Speaker 1: As of right now, we are off for the foreseeable

3822
03:19:05,760 --> 03:19:09,040
Speaker 1: future with no sixth round pick. So you've got the

3823
03:19:09,200 --> 03:19:14,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft class includes four defensive players and one offensive player.

3824
03:19:14,520 --> 03:19:19,160
Speaker 1: Cornerback Byron Jones, first defensive end Randy Gregory, and in

3825
03:19:19,240 --> 03:19:22,879
Speaker 1: the third round tackle Chaz Green, Damian Wilson, fourth round

3826
03:19:23,040 --> 03:19:27,680
Speaker 1: linebacker from Minnesota. Fifth round now Ryan Russell, defensive end Purdue.

3827
03:19:27,760 --> 03:19:29,880
Speaker 1: They load up on the big ten here on the

3828
03:19:29,959 --> 03:19:32,360
Speaker 1: third day of the draft. All right, about that. Just

3829
03:19:32,680 --> 03:19:36,000
Speaker 1: some strengths, you know, we've talked about where Russell kind

3830
03:19:36,040 --> 03:19:38,240
Speaker 1: of fell short. But some of his strengths from my

3831
03:19:38,280 --> 03:19:42,840
Speaker 1: sky report physical hands, adequate length, work off blockers, He's balanced,

3832
03:19:42,959 --> 03:19:45,880
Speaker 1: continue his path to the pocket, smooth body type, he

3833
03:19:45,920 --> 03:19:49,280
Speaker 1: can sink redirect while in pursuit, stays low off the snap,

3834
03:19:49,480 --> 03:19:53,960
Speaker 1: using leverage, hustle, discipline, vers lave run. He's experienced in

3835
03:19:54,080 --> 03:19:56,680
Speaker 1: multiple fronts, so he is well versed with the various

3836
03:19:56,760 --> 03:19:59,480
Speaker 1: front seven responsibilities, and you love the resume as a

3837
03:19:59,520 --> 03:20:02,280
Speaker 1: four years order forty seven career starts, He's seen a

3838
03:20:02,360 --> 03:20:05,600
Speaker 1: lot of football um and a local kid as Bill

3839
03:20:05,680 --> 03:20:08,640
Speaker 1: mentioned from Carrollton. Yeah, he could. I mean he could

3840
03:20:08,640 --> 03:20:11,119
Speaker 1: probably be here later today. If I had to guess,

3841
03:20:12,600 --> 03:20:16,600
Speaker 1: you could bring him in as the today. I don't

3842
03:20:16,600 --> 03:20:18,520
Speaker 1: know if they send the bus for the fifth round guy.

3843
03:20:18,680 --> 03:20:21,760
Speaker 1: I think the bus is probably just for Byron maybe

3844
03:20:22,040 --> 03:20:27,040
Speaker 1: under Orlando Scandrick was a fifth rounder. Story Joseph Randall,

3845
03:20:27,120 --> 03:20:29,920
Speaker 1: who might be you're starting running back fifth rounder? Maybe

3846
03:20:30,120 --> 03:20:34,080
Speaker 1: the most predictable pick just now. Joe Cardona and the

3847
03:20:34,200 --> 03:20:37,199
Speaker 1: Navy long snapper to New England. You know, Bill Belichick

3848
03:20:37,280 --> 03:20:40,119
Speaker 1: had his eye on that long snapper for a while.

3849
03:20:40,879 --> 03:20:45,600
Speaker 1: His dad coached, right, So how often does a long

3850
03:20:45,680 --> 03:20:49,760
Speaker 1: snapper get drafted? Well, if he plays, if he plays

3851
03:20:49,760 --> 03:20:51,440
Speaker 1: as long as some of these guys have played in

3852
03:20:51,480 --> 03:20:53,920
Speaker 1: them as well, if you get your man, it's a

3853
03:20:54,000 --> 03:20:57,800
Speaker 1: fifteen year type of deal. Yeah, we've had a putter

3854
03:20:57,920 --> 03:21:00,360
Speaker 1: now long snapper in this jof in the fifth round.

3855
03:21:00,600 --> 03:21:02,800
Speaker 1: But we've got guys like Michael ben In on the

3856
03:21:03,040 --> 03:21:06,440
Speaker 1: still on the board. He's won a national Championship, Nudis

3857
03:21:06,560 --> 03:21:10,480
Speaker 1: Roaches Hall just you know, it's amazing these teams and

3858
03:21:10,560 --> 03:21:12,240
Speaker 1: what they and what they do and what they see

3859
03:21:12,320 --> 03:21:14,800
Speaker 1: and I and I get it. And you know, maybe

3860
03:21:15,320 --> 03:21:17,320
Speaker 1: this is the times when you have guys, when guys

3861
03:21:17,400 --> 03:21:19,760
Speaker 1: don't go off the board that you question what you

3862
03:21:19,879 --> 03:21:22,360
Speaker 1: really saw on that player as a scout. And I know, Dane,

3863
03:21:22,760 --> 03:21:25,279
Speaker 1: you know, and I here, I am. I can honestly

3864
03:21:25,320 --> 03:21:27,800
Speaker 1: tell you Ryan Russell is a guy did not study

3865
03:21:28,080 --> 03:21:30,120
Speaker 1: I did not I did not study Ryan Russell. I

3866
03:21:30,200 --> 03:21:31,760
Speaker 1: did not think that Ryan ru I mean, I just

3867
03:21:31,840 --> 03:21:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't feel like, in going through some of the notes

3868
03:21:34,360 --> 03:21:36,119
Speaker 1: and stuff, who are the guys and I stayed two

3869
03:21:36,200 --> 03:21:38,840
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five players. You know, here's the thing,

3870
03:21:39,040 --> 03:21:40,920
Speaker 1: here's the thing that struck me about it and why

3871
03:21:41,000 --> 03:21:44,120
Speaker 1: I looked him up was the ten yards split. Yeah,

3872
03:21:44,440 --> 03:21:47,119
Speaker 1: I mean, he's here's a guy who's six four, two

3873
03:21:47,320 --> 03:21:50,800
Speaker 1: seventy and he's got a one sixty two ten yards

3874
03:21:50,840 --> 03:21:55,840
Speaker 1: split at one sixty four to combine U twenty five

3875
03:21:55,920 --> 03:21:58,160
Speaker 1: bench reps to go along with it. And that I

3876
03:21:58,280 --> 03:22:00,720
Speaker 1: just noticed as a seven twenty five hone drill two.

3877
03:22:01,120 --> 03:22:04,520
Speaker 1: And so I noticed that. So in my limited time

3878
03:22:04,600 --> 03:22:06,600
Speaker 1: to look up these guys. That's where I go off of,

3879
03:22:07,200 --> 03:22:09,600
Speaker 1: and then I go researching further. Well, you love the

3880
03:22:09,640 --> 03:22:12,720
Speaker 1: ten yards split? One sixty three is a good time

3881
03:22:12,800 --> 03:22:16,160
Speaker 1: for him? Um, you look at just for comparison, Shane

3882
03:22:16,240 --> 03:22:19,160
Speaker 1: Ray his ten yards split was one sixty three. Uh,

3883
03:22:19,840 --> 03:22:22,440
Speaker 1: some other guys to see DIGGI zoo his ten yards

3884
03:22:22,440 --> 03:22:25,640
Speaker 1: split one six one sou for Ryan Russell, you like

3885
03:22:25,680 --> 03:22:28,039
Speaker 1: the ten yards split. That's that that measures initial get

3886
03:22:28,120 --> 03:22:32,520
Speaker 1: off off off the line, that initial quickness. And so

3887
03:22:32,920 --> 03:22:35,840
Speaker 1: with Ryan Russell again, I liked. I liked what I

3888
03:22:35,879 --> 03:22:38,200
Speaker 1: saw early in his career. I just didn't see that development.

3889
03:22:38,480 --> 03:22:40,600
Speaker 1: But that's something with NFL coaching, you know, there's some

3890
03:22:40,680 --> 03:22:44,400
Speaker 1: untapped You like the other thing, Purdue defensive ends have

3891
03:22:44,520 --> 03:22:47,760
Speaker 1: a habit of making teams right league and contributing to Okay,

3892
03:22:47,800 --> 03:22:50,640
Speaker 1: we're back on the draft for the war room covered

3893
03:22:50,720 --> 03:22:54,240
Speaker 1: up back to us ugly mugs. Yeah, and probably had

3894
03:22:54,240 --> 03:22:56,560
Speaker 1: a number of Purdue defensive ends who have made it

3895
03:22:56,640 --> 03:22:59,280
Speaker 1: in this league, probably go away for a while. So uh,

3896
03:23:00,200 --> 03:23:03,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys no sixth round pick though, all right, So I'm curious,

3897
03:23:03,320 --> 03:23:07,440
Speaker 1: and we talked about this briefly. UM, just trying to

3898
03:23:07,520 --> 03:23:10,480
Speaker 1: project what this defensive line looks like after these two picks,

3899
03:23:10,640 --> 03:23:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean you carry, I mean you got an eight

3900
03:23:13,920 --> 03:23:16,560
Speaker 1: man rotation. You're thinking, I mean, what's the maximum guys

3901
03:23:16,680 --> 03:23:18,800
Speaker 1: that you would I mean nine nine defensive linemen on

3902
03:23:18,840 --> 03:23:23,720
Speaker 1: this team. Well, they carried, Yeah, they rotate, you know yeah,

3903
03:23:23,720 --> 03:23:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean you want a two man rotation, right if

3904
03:23:25,760 --> 03:23:28,400
Speaker 1: you can help it? Right. So we might be getting

3905
03:23:28,520 --> 03:23:30,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Russell here. I kind of I thought that might

3906
03:23:30,600 --> 03:23:33,080
Speaker 1: be on the on the phone here, So we're kind

3907
03:23:33,120 --> 03:23:37,240
Speaker 1: of in in hold mode right now. And uh well,

3908
03:23:37,320 --> 03:23:40,280
Speaker 1: so as we compare, we got Ryan, we do heavy. Okay,

3909
03:23:40,400 --> 03:23:43,440
Speaker 1: we got Ryan Russell here. Ryan Russell? Hello, are you there?

3910
03:23:44,480 --> 03:23:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here, Hey, good congratulations Ryan Russell. I'm

3911
03:23:48,440 --> 03:23:51,840
Speaker 1: being a Dallas Cowboy. Thank you. I appreciate it. You

3912
03:23:52,000 --> 03:23:55,640
Speaker 1: got Bill Jones here. I'm with CBS eleven Sports here

3913
03:23:55,760 --> 03:23:57,800
Speaker 1: locally and Dallas sport Worth as well as here with

3914
03:23:57,879 --> 03:24:01,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and Brian brought Us of Dallas Cowboys dot com.

3915
03:24:01,720 --> 03:24:04,920
Speaker 1: David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys dot com as well. We

3916
03:24:05,440 --> 03:24:09,039
Speaker 1: know that you're a local product as well, Carrolton Creek,

3917
03:24:09,200 --> 03:24:11,600
Speaker 1: you high school, and so this has to make your

3918
03:24:11,680 --> 03:24:15,880
Speaker 1: day to be a Cowboy right definitely. I mean twenty

3919
03:24:15,920 --> 03:24:18,480
Speaker 1: minutes from Dallas. I've been to. They were the first

3920
03:24:18,600 --> 03:24:22,160
Speaker 1: UM football games I went to Dallas Cowboys football game.

3921
03:24:22,200 --> 03:24:24,440
Speaker 1: But I love watching them grow up and I'm just

3922
03:24:24,520 --> 03:24:27,080
Speaker 1: so happy to be, you know, going going back their

3923
03:24:27,160 --> 03:24:29,520
Speaker 1: home and being able to play for such a great organization.

3924
03:24:29,879 --> 03:24:33,440
Speaker 1: Where are you right now? Right right now, I'm actually

3925
03:24:33,600 --> 03:24:36,480
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, New York. Um, this is where most of

3926
03:24:36,520 --> 03:24:39,640
Speaker 1: my family are right now. So that's why I'm at

3927
03:24:39,680 --> 03:24:41,080
Speaker 1: right now that can't wait to get back to Dallas.

3928
03:24:41,240 --> 03:24:43,600
Speaker 1: So what has this day been like for you? And

3929
03:24:43,720 --> 03:24:46,320
Speaker 1: what was your reaction when you got the call from

3930
03:24:46,400 --> 03:24:50,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones? When when I heard when I heard Jerry

3931
03:24:50,400 --> 03:24:52,640
Speaker 1: Jones on the phone, I was just in shock and awe.

3932
03:24:52,800 --> 03:24:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just relieved, excited, humbled, blast, There's so

3933
03:24:56,200 --> 03:24:58,520
Speaker 1: many words that come to mind. I can't even I

3934
03:24:58,600 --> 03:25:02,119
Speaker 1: can't even describe it. Really. And what were you thinking

3935
03:25:02,200 --> 03:25:06,840
Speaker 1: as this day was going on? Um, just that I

3936
03:25:06,920 --> 03:25:08,840
Speaker 1: wanted a team to believe in me as much I

3937
03:25:08,920 --> 03:25:12,040
Speaker 1: believe myself and to give me opportunity to grow and become,

3938
03:25:12,520 --> 03:25:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, the player that I know I can be.

3939
03:25:14,280 --> 03:25:16,920
Speaker 1: And when I met with the Cowboys and coach Marinelli.

3940
03:25:17,080 --> 03:25:19,120
Speaker 1: You know, I definitely felt that from them and from

3941
03:25:19,160 --> 03:25:21,920
Speaker 1: the organization. I felt that support and then encourage me

3942
03:25:22,040 --> 03:25:26,080
Speaker 1: and just the teaching that that they bring to the organization.

3943
03:25:26,320 --> 03:25:27,800
Speaker 1: And I couldn't have picked a better team to be

3944
03:25:27,879 --> 03:25:30,160
Speaker 1: a part of lot. I'm glad they chose me. Ryan.

3945
03:25:30,240 --> 03:25:32,400
Speaker 1: Did they work you out in West Lafayette or did

3946
03:25:32,480 --> 03:25:34,800
Speaker 1: you come here to work out? Did when you first

3947
03:25:34,840 --> 03:25:38,080
Speaker 1: had your with with with Marinelli and Leon letting those guys?

3948
03:25:39,120 --> 03:25:43,280
Speaker 1: Uh Um, Coast Bloom actually came to Okay, we didn't

3949
03:25:43,280 --> 03:25:46,320
Speaker 1: work out there, Okay. Um. After that, I took a

3950
03:25:46,400 --> 03:25:50,800
Speaker 1: visit out to Dallas, Okay with coach Lanton and coach Marinelli. Okay, great.

3951
03:25:50,840 --> 03:25:53,840
Speaker 1: So and again we had coach Marinelli on earlier today

3952
03:25:53,920 --> 03:25:57,199
Speaker 1: and he was talking about guys that have that position

3953
03:25:57,360 --> 03:26:00,880
Speaker 1: flexibility and and you know, we were leading up to

3954
03:26:00,959 --> 03:26:03,800
Speaker 1: the draft and stuff, and even when you were the selection. Yeah,

3955
03:26:03,800 --> 03:26:06,000
Speaker 1: we've talked about You've played a couple of different schemes

3956
03:26:06,440 --> 03:26:09,600
Speaker 1: while you were at Purdue, and so is this this

3957
03:26:09,760 --> 03:26:12,440
Speaker 1: four three scheme playing as I assume like playing is

3958
03:26:12,440 --> 03:26:15,200
Speaker 1: a left defensive end. Is that something you will be

3959
03:26:15,280 --> 03:26:19,560
Speaker 1: comfortable doing? Oh? Yeah, definitely. That's that's where I started

3960
03:26:19,760 --> 03:26:21,480
Speaker 1: learning football, and that's where I fell in love with

3961
03:26:21,560 --> 03:26:24,000
Speaker 1: the game at and that, Um, you know, I've done

3962
03:26:24,040 --> 03:26:25,720
Speaker 1: a lot of things, that's definitely the thing I'm most

3963
03:26:25,760 --> 03:26:28,840
Speaker 1: comfortable with. And I'm just excited to be able to

3964
03:26:28,879 --> 03:26:30,360
Speaker 1: play that and learn and grow and if they need

3965
03:26:30,400 --> 03:26:32,840
Speaker 1: me in different areas, you know, in different schemes or

3966
03:26:32,959 --> 03:26:37,000
Speaker 1: from places, I think I can do that as well. Hey, Ryan, congrats. Uh,

3967
03:26:37,080 --> 03:26:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, we we have the opportunity to watch the

3968
03:26:40,160 --> 03:26:42,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys war room cam here while they're making these selections

3969
03:26:43,000 --> 03:26:45,800
Speaker 1: and uh, certain certainly seemed to get a good response

3970
03:26:46,080 --> 03:26:48,200
Speaker 1: from Leon Latt when he heard that you were the pick.

3971
03:26:48,320 --> 03:26:52,680
Speaker 1: What what's Leon? You mentioned Rod Marinelli? What's been that

3972
03:26:52,840 --> 03:26:55,960
Speaker 1: that dialogue in that relationship with these guys as the

3973
03:26:56,080 --> 03:26:58,160
Speaker 1: draft process has gone on, and what you've been able

3974
03:26:58,200 --> 03:27:02,480
Speaker 1: to learn about them? Well, just coaching me and when

3975
03:27:02,520 --> 03:27:03,880
Speaker 1: I when I met him when I came to Dallas,

3976
03:27:03,959 --> 03:27:06,360
Speaker 1: and is very supportive. You know, he's played, he's been

3977
03:27:06,400 --> 03:27:08,840
Speaker 1: in my position before. He knows kind of you know,

3978
03:27:08,959 --> 03:27:10,920
Speaker 1: the things that it takes in the criticism you hear

3979
03:27:10,920 --> 03:27:13,280
Speaker 1: from the outside and the support system. Ashmunal insight so

3980
03:27:13,800 --> 03:27:15,920
Speaker 1: instantly we kicked it off. I mean, he's given me

3981
03:27:16,000 --> 03:27:18,680
Speaker 1: great support. There's been a lot of you know, questions

3982
03:27:18,760 --> 03:27:20,640
Speaker 1: or concerns about my play and then things like that.

3983
03:27:20,800 --> 03:27:22,480
Speaker 1: And I told him, you know, the first that I

3984
03:27:22,520 --> 03:27:24,439
Speaker 1: met him, I was like, I don't really have any excuses.

3985
03:27:24,480 --> 03:27:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't have any reasons. I'm just ready to change

3986
03:27:26,600 --> 03:27:29,119
Speaker 1: that perception of myself. And I think we really hit

3987
03:27:29,160 --> 03:27:32,240
Speaker 1: it off there and hit the ground running in that regard.

3988
03:27:32,520 --> 03:27:34,920
Speaker 1: And when I met coach Marinelli, I mean, his first

3989
03:27:34,959 --> 03:27:36,320
Speaker 1: thing he told me said, I'm going to make you

3990
03:27:36,360 --> 03:27:38,280
Speaker 1: a better player. To whether the draft through, we don't

3991
03:27:38,320 --> 03:27:40,240
Speaker 1: ease this time that we have together, I'm going to

3992
03:27:40,280 --> 03:27:42,560
Speaker 1: make you a better player. And I definitely left the

3993
03:27:42,600 --> 03:27:44,400
Speaker 1: meeting so like I knew way more than I came

3994
03:27:44,440 --> 03:27:46,840
Speaker 1: in with. And just knowing that, I was like, if

3995
03:27:46,840 --> 03:27:48,680
Speaker 1: I could come here and if I can be under

3996
03:27:48,800 --> 03:27:51,240
Speaker 1: his mentorship, that I know I can be the best

3997
03:27:51,280 --> 03:27:52,960
Speaker 1: player that I could possibly be. So I'm just like

3998
03:27:53,000 --> 03:27:55,879
Speaker 1: I said, I'm ecstatic to be a Dallas Cowboy. Yeah

3999
03:27:55,959 --> 03:27:58,120
Speaker 1: there you go right. Well listen ay, well, Ben Bloom,

4000
03:27:58,800 --> 03:28:01,840
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach is now here in studio with us.

4001
03:28:01,879 --> 03:28:03,480
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give you an opportunity to get to

4002
03:28:03,520 --> 03:28:05,880
Speaker 1: say hello to coach Blue, who you were talking about,

4003
03:28:05,959 --> 03:28:08,240
Speaker 1: came to West Lafayette and got a chance to work

4004
03:28:08,280 --> 03:28:12,040
Speaker 1: you out. So coach the floors yours Brian. What's up man?

4005
03:28:12,120 --> 03:28:15,160
Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm doing great? How are you coaching?

4006
03:28:15,480 --> 03:28:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, I think I'm doing better than you.

4007
03:28:17,640 --> 03:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm just pumped to have you on the squad. Yeah,

4008
03:28:21,080 --> 03:28:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but I'm definitely excited to Well,

4009
03:28:25,040 --> 03:28:28,080
Speaker 1: the most exciting part for me is other than your ability,

4010
03:28:28,520 --> 03:28:32,000
Speaker 1: which you've shown in college. You know, the expectation here

4011
03:28:32,040 --> 03:28:34,880
Speaker 1: and how we play, and you know, we got to

4012
03:28:34,959 --> 03:28:38,160
Speaker 1: work together at the workout at Purdue. So um, I

4013
03:28:38,240 --> 03:28:41,560
Speaker 1: feel like we've already laid the right foundation for you to,

4014
03:28:42,360 --> 03:28:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, come in here and you know, fight for

4015
03:28:45,560 --> 03:28:50,080
Speaker 1: a job right away. Yeah, sir, Yeah sir. Well, Ryan, listen,

4016
03:28:50,160 --> 03:28:52,240
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. We really

4017
03:28:52,280 --> 03:28:55,680
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Congratulations on being select. I know it's a

4018
03:28:55,760 --> 03:28:58,600
Speaker 1: very exciting day for you and for your family. Have

4019
03:28:58,680 --> 03:29:00,920
Speaker 1: a safe trip back from buff and we'll see here

4020
03:29:01,160 --> 03:29:04,040
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks for camps. Okay, all right,

4021
03:29:04,120 --> 03:29:07,720
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate all right, thank you, grats Ryan, Well

4022
03:29:07,840 --> 03:29:10,320
Speaker 1: you went and did the workout. Yeah, this is this

4023
03:29:10,520 --> 03:29:12,080
Speaker 1: is this Verst saying, look, is this one of your

4024
03:29:12,120 --> 03:29:14,800
Speaker 1: pet cats? Is this one of these guys that I

4025
03:29:14,920 --> 03:29:16,879
Speaker 1: walked by your office and you grind on that tape

4026
03:29:16,879 --> 03:29:19,200
Speaker 1: pretty hard? You coach these guys really hard. Is this

4027
03:29:19,280 --> 03:29:21,240
Speaker 1: one of those guys that it was kind of caught

4028
03:29:21,320 --> 03:29:24,160
Speaker 1: your eye initially as it was going along. Yeah, I

4029
03:29:24,280 --> 03:29:27,879
Speaker 1: mean he's got a lot of talent and it definitely

4030
03:29:27,959 --> 03:29:32,560
Speaker 1: flashed throughout his college career. You know, I just remember

4031
03:29:32,640 --> 03:29:36,760
Speaker 1: watching him playing Indiana Notre Dame, those two games. Even

4032
03:29:36,959 --> 03:29:40,280
Speaker 1: he again, sureff from Iowa. You know, he played some

4033
03:29:40,680 --> 03:29:44,640
Speaker 1: big time competition at some big time games. So I

4034
03:29:44,840 --> 03:29:47,720
Speaker 1: was excited to see that. And Ryan alluded to it.

4035
03:29:47,959 --> 03:29:51,680
Speaker 1: He wasn't a consistent player. So it's my job and

4036
03:29:52,360 --> 03:29:55,360
Speaker 1: his job was working together to get that consistency from him. Right,

4037
03:29:56,480 --> 03:29:58,880
Speaker 1: we talk I mean, nobody knows better than y'all. We

4038
03:29:58,959 --> 03:30:01,240
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the roles these guys play. Once

4039
03:30:01,280 --> 03:30:05,240
Speaker 1: you get him here and we're working on our best guestimates. Really,

4040
03:30:05,240 --> 03:30:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean he left end is that I mean, you

4041
03:30:07,480 --> 03:30:09,160
Speaker 1: have an idea of what you kind of hope to

4042
03:30:09,160 --> 03:30:11,920
Speaker 1: start him out as and what you see him as becoming. Yeah,

4043
03:30:11,920 --> 03:30:14,000
Speaker 1: I think he can play any end position, but from

4044
03:30:14,040 --> 03:30:17,600
Speaker 1: a measurable standpoint, and you know what he's done in college,

4045
03:30:17,680 --> 03:30:19,920
Speaker 1: left end seems to be the most natural fit. But

4046
03:30:20,040 --> 03:30:22,560
Speaker 1: we don't like to, you know, put our guys in

4047
03:30:22,680 --> 03:30:26,600
Speaker 1: a limited right pigeonhole. Pigeon hole, it's a good way

4048
03:30:26,600 --> 03:30:30,039
Speaker 1: to say it. So sure, I think he could play left.

4049
03:30:30,080 --> 03:30:31,680
Speaker 1: If he had a play right, he could play right,

4050
03:30:31,959 --> 03:30:34,360
Speaker 1: and then we'd always experiment moving him inside. But I

4051
03:30:34,440 --> 03:30:36,880
Speaker 1: think left end is the obvious place to start him

4052
03:30:36,879 --> 03:30:40,760
Speaker 1: off at and got with his speed, athleticism, ability to

4053
03:30:40,840 --> 03:30:43,520
Speaker 1: bend for a tall guy, that's where you can see, hey,

4054
03:30:43,560 --> 03:30:46,119
Speaker 1: we could have some position flex here. His Russian mechanics,

4055
03:30:46,200 --> 03:30:48,840
Speaker 1: he can flip his hips, he can dip his inside shoulder,

4056
03:30:48,879 --> 03:30:51,920
Speaker 1: he can burst to the ball, so hey, he can

4057
03:30:52,000 --> 03:30:54,000
Speaker 1: rush from anywhere. In my mind, we just got to

4058
03:30:54,000 --> 03:30:56,200
Speaker 1: find the best place for him. We always joke that

4059
03:30:56,520 --> 03:30:59,600
Speaker 1: every position coach wants his guy to get drafted at

4060
03:30:59,680 --> 03:31:02,800
Speaker 1: any round of the draft. So what, how how's it

4061
03:31:02,840 --> 03:31:05,200
Speaker 1: feeling with you, Leon and Rob Marinelli? Right now with

4062
03:31:05,320 --> 03:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory and now and now another defensive lineman in

4063
03:31:07,959 --> 03:31:10,360
Speaker 1: the building this weekend. It's exciting. You know. We just

4064
03:31:10,520 --> 03:31:13,279
Speaker 1: want to get as many talented guys that love football

4065
03:31:13,400 --> 03:31:17,199
Speaker 1: here and create competition. We're better coaches when we have competition.

4066
03:31:17,680 --> 03:31:20,920
Speaker 1: And uh, it's gonna make everybody, uh in the defensive

4067
03:31:20,959 --> 03:31:23,120
Speaker 1: line room better coaches and players. Can you talk a

4068
03:31:23,160 --> 03:31:25,920
Speaker 1: little bit about the evaluation of Gregory? I mean, again,

4069
03:31:26,000 --> 03:31:29,160
Speaker 1: that's something that is you guys. You guys coach these

4070
03:31:29,200 --> 03:31:31,520
Speaker 1: guys and you look at these guys and anything else

4071
03:31:31,680 --> 03:31:33,920
Speaker 1: is you know, the front office has to take care

4072
03:31:33,920 --> 03:31:36,720
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, you're responsibly. But talk about though,

4073
03:31:36,760 --> 03:31:38,440
Speaker 1: when you get a player to get an opportunity to

4074
03:31:38,520 --> 03:31:40,879
Speaker 1: coach a guy that a lot of people as thinks

4075
03:31:41,040 --> 03:31:44,560
Speaker 1: and I agree at elite rush ability and now here

4076
03:31:44,600 --> 03:31:46,560
Speaker 1: he is a part of your team, and then talk

4077
03:31:46,600 --> 03:31:49,320
Speaker 1: about coaching a guy like that. Yeah, I mean when

4078
03:31:49,360 --> 03:31:52,560
Speaker 1: you turn on the tape and watch Randy Um, the

4079
03:31:52,720 --> 03:31:57,280
Speaker 1: talents obvious as a rusher. Um, even with his length

4080
03:31:57,360 --> 03:32:00,000
Speaker 1: and ability to bend, he can set an edge again

4081
03:32:00,000 --> 03:32:05,320
Speaker 1: as the big oh tackle. Um. The speed, the rush ability,

4082
03:32:05,560 --> 03:32:09,080
Speaker 1: the natural instincts, it's all there. And his motors high too.

4083
03:32:09,760 --> 03:32:14,000
Speaker 1: So from a football character standpoint, From a talent. You know,

4084
03:32:14,040 --> 03:32:16,240
Speaker 1: it's everything you want. So you're excited to have a

4085
03:32:16,320 --> 03:32:19,080
Speaker 1: guy here that puts a lot of positive things on tape,

4086
03:32:19,360 --> 03:32:21,080
Speaker 1: and you just want to get a guy like here,

4087
03:32:21,560 --> 03:32:23,880
Speaker 1: Get him here, guy like that, Get him here, get

4088
03:32:23,959 --> 03:32:26,480
Speaker 1: him lined up seeing the right stuff and playing fast

4089
03:32:26,560 --> 03:32:29,080
Speaker 1: and let his natural abilities take over before I let

4090
03:32:29,160 --> 03:32:32,320
Speaker 1: you go here. We talk about with the with the

4091
03:32:32,400 --> 03:32:34,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence, you know, and last year wet yeah, and

4092
03:32:34,680 --> 03:32:37,359
Speaker 1: we lost we didn't We lost him in the preseason

4093
03:32:37,440 --> 03:32:39,080
Speaker 1: and then you know, through the middle of the season

4094
03:32:39,160 --> 03:32:41,520
Speaker 1: and then you guys worked really hard every day even

4095
03:32:41,560 --> 03:32:44,440
Speaker 1: when he wasn't doing physical rep tracts and he was

4096
03:32:44,520 --> 03:32:47,360
Speaker 1: working against somebody, you were working on his technique. Talk

4097
03:32:47,400 --> 03:32:50,320
Speaker 1: about where you see him at right now from where

4098
03:32:50,400 --> 03:32:53,160
Speaker 1: he started to this point in time where we'll see

4099
03:32:53,200 --> 03:32:56,640
Speaker 1: him out here in the camps and stuff here really soon. Yeah. No,

4100
03:32:56,720 --> 03:32:59,040
Speaker 1: it's a great question. And um, you know, part of

4101
03:32:59,120 --> 03:33:01,800
Speaker 1: our offseason work with all the players on our current roster,

4102
03:33:01,920 --> 03:33:05,760
Speaker 1: we go back and look at their entire season individually

4103
03:33:06,360 --> 03:33:08,360
Speaker 1: and cut up you know, what you did well, which

4104
03:33:08,400 --> 03:33:10,640
Speaker 1: you didn't do well, so we can really focus on

4105
03:33:10,720 --> 03:33:13,800
Speaker 1: specific things. And you know, in the last few weeks.

4106
03:33:13,879 --> 03:33:15,920
Speaker 1: I've watched and watched the Marcus from his first game

4107
03:33:16,040 --> 03:33:18,040
Speaker 1: versus Arizona all the way through the playoffs, and you

4108
03:33:18,200 --> 03:33:22,119
Speaker 1: see him playing better as the season goes along. Now

4109
03:33:22,600 --> 03:33:24,200
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, hey, he had two sacks in

4110
03:33:24,280 --> 03:33:26,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs, so from a statistical standpoint, he did that,

4111
03:33:26,680 --> 03:33:29,480
Speaker 1: but if you just watch the individual plays, he's playing

4112
03:33:29,560 --> 03:33:32,480
Speaker 1: better and better. With him, the toughness and the physicality

4113
03:33:32,640 --> 03:33:35,840
Speaker 1: was always there, So just for him, it's the technique stuff,

4114
03:33:36,360 --> 03:33:39,640
Speaker 1: rushing the passer, you know, working edges, working half a man,

4115
03:33:40,280 --> 03:33:43,240
Speaker 1: using his speed, getting better with his hands. He's doing

4116
03:33:43,320 --> 03:33:45,880
Speaker 1: that stuff and he has improved with that, and he

4117
03:33:46,040 --> 03:33:49,160
Speaker 1: did it coming kind of behind the eight ball from

4118
03:33:49,200 --> 03:33:51,240
Speaker 1: a deficit. So now he's got a a full off

4119
03:33:51,280 --> 03:33:53,280
Speaker 1: season and a full training camp, so I see the

4120
03:33:53,320 --> 03:33:55,640
Speaker 1: sky the limit with him and he should be competing

4121
03:33:56,200 --> 03:33:58,360
Speaker 1: to be on the field a ton of fus next year. Well,

4122
03:33:58,400 --> 03:34:01,080
Speaker 1: Coach Bloom, thanks so much for Josh. Appreciate kings great

4123
03:34:01,160 --> 03:34:05,160
Speaker 1: insight there. That's coach Cowboys defensive line coach Ben Bloom,

4124
03:34:05,240 --> 03:34:08,240
Speaker 1: one of the really outstanding young coaches in this league.

4125
03:34:08,280 --> 03:34:10,480
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed watching him work so up watching and

4126
03:34:10,560 --> 03:34:12,400
Speaker 1: he even says that when you're not in Yeah, no,

4127
03:34:12,520 --> 03:34:15,520
Speaker 1: I do think a lot of respect. His office is

4128
03:34:15,600 --> 03:34:17,560
Speaker 1: right on the hallways. You can always tell when he's

4129
03:34:17,560 --> 03:34:19,920
Speaker 1: actually working. No, no, he works a lot, that's but no,

4130
03:34:20,000 --> 03:34:21,800
Speaker 1: he is going when the outstanding young coaches and thanks

4131
03:34:21,800 --> 03:34:26,440
Speaker 1: again for your time, Ben Bloom the defensive line coaches,

4132
03:34:26,480 --> 03:34:40,840
Speaker 1: das coach. This is continuing coverage of the twenty fifteen

4133
03:34:41,040 --> 03:34:47,120
Speaker 1: and FL Draft on Della's Cowboys dot com. Brian brought

4134
03:34:47,200 --> 03:34:51,720
Speaker 1: us back here devastating news. News roach is actually means

4135
03:34:51,800 --> 03:34:55,200
Speaker 1: say it ain't so, say it ain't so. Kansas City

4136
03:34:55,280 --> 03:34:58,760
Speaker 1: chief can't see change at John Dorsey again. Another guy

4137
03:34:58,959 --> 03:35:02,280
Speaker 1: worked with smart football man. It's a guy. It's a guy.

4138
03:35:02,400 --> 03:35:05,840
Speaker 1: We really liked that the Cowboys don't have to play. Yeah,

4139
03:35:05,920 --> 03:35:07,880
Speaker 1: so at least we got that going for class. Fool

4140
03:35:07,920 --> 03:35:11,240
Speaker 1: guy I'm working on. I had him a little high

4141
03:35:11,240 --> 03:35:13,680
Speaker 1: there in the fourth round. I believe for uh for

4142
03:35:13,840 --> 03:35:17,640
Speaker 1: CBS Sports, I'm working on five winners and five losers

4143
03:35:17,879 --> 03:35:20,640
Speaker 1: from this weekend. And I tell you want people to

4144
03:35:20,680 --> 03:35:22,880
Speaker 1: tweet to you that the chief tell me, tell me

4145
03:35:22,920 --> 03:35:25,440
Speaker 1: your opinion. But the chiefs are up there. I really

4146
03:35:25,520 --> 03:35:28,520
Speaker 1: like what they did. Adding two impact corners with Marcus

4147
03:35:28,560 --> 03:35:32,800
Speaker 1: Peters and Stevie Nelson. Uh, Mitch Morris, I thought, is

4148
03:35:33,240 --> 03:35:35,800
Speaker 1: their center of the future. I don't think I loved

4149
03:35:35,879 --> 03:35:39,440
Speaker 1: that receiver pick they made though, the Conley kid, Oh see,

4150
03:35:39,440 --> 03:35:42,040
Speaker 1: I I like that at that point in that third round.

4151
03:35:42,320 --> 03:35:45,800
Speaker 1: Uh I he blew up the combine and so the

4152
03:35:45,840 --> 03:35:51,000
Speaker 1: workout warrior. I mean, you know, but he his tape,

4153
03:35:52,120 --> 03:35:53,640
Speaker 1: you could see it. He showed Flash is not the

4154
03:35:53,720 --> 03:35:56,320
Speaker 1: most consistent player lass class houses can't throw. I mean,

4155
03:35:56,400 --> 03:35:58,840
Speaker 1: people call Byron Jones a workout warrior. So who am

4156
03:35:58,879 --> 03:36:01,760
Speaker 1: I to say that that Conley's a workout warrior. So

4157
03:36:02,800 --> 03:36:06,600
Speaker 1: we shall see, we shall see. How's the last four

4158
03:36:06,800 --> 03:36:09,280
Speaker 1: doing in Kansas City? Did he do anything? No, he's

4159
03:36:09,320 --> 03:36:12,360
Speaker 1: been a little bit. Yeah. I liked him. I liked him. Uh.

4160
03:36:12,959 --> 03:36:16,800
Speaker 1: You've got the members of the Draft show here and

4161
03:36:16,959 --> 03:36:22,280
Speaker 1: including our trusted director there of Kent Garrison leading the way.

4162
03:36:22,320 --> 03:36:25,440
Speaker 1: He's been here shout out, shout out ed k Hill. Yeah,

4163
03:36:25,600 --> 03:36:28,480
Speaker 1: not not with us, not even not even watching because

4164
03:36:28,480 --> 03:36:31,119
Speaker 1: he's probably at a soccer game. He's chicken strip some Yeah,

4165
03:36:31,160 --> 03:36:33,200
Speaker 1: he's not really it, but you know he's doing he's

4166
03:36:33,240 --> 03:36:35,640
Speaker 1: doing a simulated mock dra He was a vital he

4167
03:36:35,720 --> 03:36:37,600
Speaker 1: was a vital part of the Draft show. He was

4168
03:36:37,760 --> 03:36:41,360
Speaker 1: and we're very and as we start this round, kay Hill, Yeah,

4169
03:36:41,560 --> 03:36:43,840
Speaker 1: it would give us an opportunity I almost spit my

4170
03:36:43,959 --> 03:36:46,840
Speaker 1: drink out, almost give us an opportunity to thank everybody

4171
03:36:46,840 --> 03:36:48,959
Speaker 1: again as we get into the last round here colways

4172
03:36:48,959 --> 03:36:51,400
Speaker 1: do have two picks, but to thank everybody along the

4173
03:36:51,480 --> 03:36:54,760
Speaker 1: way that's made the Draft Show possible. It did started

4174
03:36:54,760 --> 03:36:57,280
Speaker 1: out ed and I with an idea of what we

4175
03:36:57,320 --> 03:37:00,360
Speaker 1: wanted to do and Derek Eagleton, everybody allowing out out

4176
03:37:00,440 --> 03:37:05,920
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton and co on them out. Yeah, thanks again

4177
03:37:05,959 --> 03:37:10,320
Speaker 1: to big thanks to da guy right here is a machine.

4178
03:37:10,560 --> 03:37:12,840
Speaker 1: And uh, you know we've been here since Jeff and

4179
03:37:12,959 --> 03:37:16,400
Speaker 1: Katie Yeah, Bill cast a thousand, but the I'm talking

4180
03:37:16,400 --> 03:37:18,880
Speaker 1: about our Draft show up this year. Yeah guy, I

4181
03:37:19,000 --> 03:37:22,400
Speaker 1: know we appreciate you guys sending a long journey from

4182
03:37:23,000 --> 03:37:26,320
Speaker 1: it has been from Mobile, Alabama on a Winnebago. It

4183
03:37:26,480 --> 03:37:29,360
Speaker 1: was a fun journey though, absolutely it was fun. Do

4184
03:37:29,480 --> 03:37:33,720
Speaker 1: it again next year. The uh Christian socally from Buffalo.

4185
03:37:33,920 --> 03:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah Soaky's yeah. A player who Laurence so Cool, an

4186
03:37:37,640 --> 03:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Albanian native immigrant who was out of position at nose

4187
03:37:42,040 --> 03:37:45,040
Speaker 1: guard for the Buffalo went to Seattle. His agent just tweeted,

4188
03:37:45,040 --> 03:37:47,960
Speaker 1: they're moving him the offensive line. Yeah, I saw I

4189
03:37:48,040 --> 03:37:51,000
Speaker 1: listed to him as a guard. Yeah, that's interesting. Seattle

4190
03:37:51,080 --> 03:37:54,039
Speaker 1: at j R. Sweezy another former defensive lineman they moved

4191
03:37:54,080 --> 03:37:57,160
Speaker 1: to the offensive line started has been a consistent guard

4192
03:37:57,240 --> 03:37:59,720
Speaker 1: for them. That is only it's coming teen kid from Rice,

4193
03:37:59,800 --> 03:38:03,000
Speaker 1: guy picked by Houston, So good for him. Yeah, Christian

4194
03:38:03,280 --> 03:38:07,160
Speaker 1: nat play it obviously at Rice. Yeah, well yeah Rice,

4195
03:38:07,480 --> 03:38:10,320
Speaker 1: So he doesn't. He gets to upgrade his apartment, is

4196
03:38:10,360 --> 03:38:12,840
Speaker 1: what he does. He goes now from having like yeah,

4197
03:38:12,920 --> 03:38:15,760
Speaker 1: he moves apart to campus to a good to a

4198
03:38:16,320 --> 03:38:19,120
Speaker 1: real good apartment. So good for Christian Comington. And then

4199
03:38:19,200 --> 03:38:22,240
Speaker 1: we said about Nunis Roaches, a guy that one of

4200
03:38:22,320 --> 03:38:24,400
Speaker 1: my favorite players. I have a lot of favorite players, Dave,

4201
03:38:24,400 --> 03:38:26,720
Speaker 1: you know that that's okay, the wrong Southern miss. He

4202
03:38:26,879 --> 03:38:30,400
Speaker 1: goes to my buddy John Dorsey at the Kansas City Chiefs.

4203
03:38:30,879 --> 03:38:33,840
Speaker 1: So good for him. He gets at up. So we're

4204
03:38:33,879 --> 03:38:37,760
Speaker 1: now into the uh into the seventh round. I always

4205
03:38:37,800 --> 03:38:40,880
Speaker 1: like to call this the lightning round. Uh. He was

4206
03:38:40,920 --> 03:38:43,400
Speaker 1: on the clock that Cowboys picks coming too. Yeah, we

4207
03:38:43,440 --> 03:38:46,680
Speaker 1: do have Cowboys picks coming the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let

4208
03:38:46,720 --> 03:38:49,760
Speaker 1: me see, actually Oakland had this this first pick at

4209
03:38:49,879 --> 03:38:53,480
Speaker 1: two eighteen and where that would be Anthony Morris to

4210
03:38:53,560 --> 03:38:58,240
Speaker 1: tackle from Tennessee State. Uh, then we go to pick

4211
03:38:58,360 --> 03:39:03,400
Speaker 1: two nineteen, which would be that would be the Cleveland Browns.

4212
03:39:03,920 --> 03:39:07,000
Speaker 1: Picks been traded quite a bit. Sad stat that Jason

4213
03:39:07,040 --> 03:39:09,720
Speaker 1: Witten probably doesn't want to hear that I pulled off Twitter. Yep,

4214
03:39:10,000 --> 03:39:13,920
Speaker 1: Tennessee State and Tennessee Chattanooga have had players drafted today. Yeah,

4215
03:39:14,040 --> 03:39:17,520
Speaker 1: this weekend. Ye. No volunteers off the board. No volunteers

4216
03:39:17,560 --> 03:39:19,520
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen so far. Yeah. And by the way,

4217
03:39:19,760 --> 03:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Justin Coleman, we might see him this round, but my

4218
03:39:22,320 --> 03:39:25,120
Speaker 1: big could get shut out. War room cam is now covered.

4219
03:39:25,200 --> 03:39:28,720
Speaker 1: You're seeing that our faces right now. But when they

4220
03:39:28,840 --> 03:39:32,440
Speaker 1: feel comfortable about getting this going again, we will see

4221
03:39:32,640 --> 03:39:35,600
Speaker 1: the war room. We've been doing that all weekend. It's

4222
03:39:35,640 --> 03:39:37,560
Speaker 1: been something I feel like they I feel like they've

4223
03:39:37,600 --> 03:39:39,840
Speaker 1: covered the camera up more this year than they have

4224
03:39:39,959 --> 03:39:41,920
Speaker 1: in years past. But they they've got a lot going

4225
03:39:42,000 --> 03:39:43,760
Speaker 1: on in there, a lot of a lot of you know,

4226
03:39:43,840 --> 03:39:45,760
Speaker 1: a lot of trying to figure things out. So a

4227
03:39:45,800 --> 03:39:47,760
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of debate, a lot of debt

4228
03:39:47,800 --> 03:39:49,160
Speaker 1: and going on. They don't need to see. But no,

4229
03:39:49,280 --> 03:39:51,000
Speaker 1: we've we've got a Really it's been a nice thing

4230
03:39:51,080 --> 03:39:53,000
Speaker 1: for us to go in there and be a part

4231
03:39:53,080 --> 03:39:55,120
Speaker 1: and see as picks have been made and stuff. That was.

4232
03:39:55,280 --> 03:39:57,400
Speaker 1: That was a trip during the Randy Gregory it was

4233
03:39:57,840 --> 03:40:01,560
Speaker 1: how animated that room was to Dane pick two nineteen

4234
03:40:01,680 --> 03:40:06,160
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. Hayes Pollard, the inside linebacker from USC. Yeah,

4235
03:40:07,160 --> 03:40:09,440
Speaker 1: a player that as a four year starter at USC,

4236
03:40:09,800 --> 03:40:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, racked up the production three hundred and seventy

4237
03:40:12,320 --> 03:40:15,480
Speaker 1: seven tackles. Uh. I'm not sure where he fits. Is

4238
03:40:15,520 --> 03:40:17,960
Speaker 1: he an inside back er, outside backer? He played both,

4239
03:40:18,040 --> 03:40:20,720
Speaker 1: He played both, he played middle, he played a will

4240
03:40:21,320 --> 03:40:23,879
Speaker 1: for Cleveland or for a USC. Now going to Cleveland,

4241
03:40:24,120 --> 03:40:26,520
Speaker 1: he's be one heck of a special teams player for them. Yeah,

4242
03:40:26,520 --> 03:40:28,400
Speaker 1: I think that's where he's gonna fit. Uh. You know,

4243
03:40:28,520 --> 03:40:31,280
Speaker 1: obviously he's around the ball, he is, he can play

4244
03:40:31,320 --> 03:40:35,160
Speaker 1: in space. Um, he's an athlete. So UM, we'll see

4245
03:40:35,200 --> 03:40:37,960
Speaker 1: how he how he transitions to to defense. But I

4246
03:40:38,000 --> 03:40:40,600
Speaker 1: think initially on special teams where he'll make his uh,

4247
03:40:40,800 --> 03:40:44,119
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be earning his paychecks. That's the eleventh pick

4248
03:40:44,200 --> 03:40:46,080
Speaker 1: for the Browns. Yeah, damn there, and then they have

4249
03:40:46,080 --> 03:40:47,879
Speaker 1: another picket, so they could come away with a dozen

4250
03:40:48,000 --> 03:40:49,960
Speaker 1: a dozen pick and everybody thought they were gonna be

4251
03:40:50,080 --> 03:40:52,760
Speaker 1: dealing them the way. Uh. The next team that will

4252
03:40:52,800 --> 03:40:58,680
Speaker 1: be on the clock at two twenty is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

4253
03:40:58,720 --> 03:41:00,959
Speaker 1: I'm just making sure that they're in fact they are

4254
03:41:01,040 --> 03:41:02,720
Speaker 1: on the clock. They are on the clock. Pick this

4255
03:41:02,840 --> 03:41:04,959
Speaker 1: a pick has been announced at all. If you see anything,

4256
03:41:05,400 --> 03:41:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And then behind them will be

4257
03:41:08,480 --> 03:41:12,320
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. So again, this will be teams. Now,

4258
03:41:12,760 --> 03:41:15,600
Speaker 1: this is what teams do. You know, your your your

4259
03:41:15,720 --> 03:41:19,879
Speaker 1: scouts are already now with coaches. They're calling free agents,

4260
03:41:19,920 --> 03:41:23,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to recruit a little bit. You're talking to guys. Hey, listen,

4261
03:41:23,040 --> 03:41:25,440
Speaker 1: if you don't get picked, h you know, we'd love

4262
03:41:25,480 --> 03:41:28,080
Speaker 1: to have you. Chris Hall does a tremendous job with

4263
03:41:28,240 --> 03:41:31,000
Speaker 1: the priority free agents will be here, you know, through

4264
03:41:31,080 --> 03:41:33,440
Speaker 1: the evening getting them. Yeah, I mean list of guys

4265
03:41:33,560 --> 03:41:36,080
Speaker 1: as you know, you assume the seventh round will probably

4266
03:41:36,080 --> 03:41:38,760
Speaker 1: be over and yeah, and the whole idea, the whole

4267
03:41:38,800 --> 03:41:41,720
Speaker 1: idea here is that if there is guys that are

4268
03:41:41,840 --> 03:41:44,360
Speaker 1: on the board that are still on their draft board

4269
03:41:44,440 --> 03:41:48,000
Speaker 1: physically on their board. When this thing ends, those guys

4270
03:41:48,120 --> 03:41:50,600
Speaker 1: become the priorities that you go out and get. So

4271
03:41:51,040 --> 03:41:53,400
Speaker 1: as we go to the war room, cam uh, you'll

4272
03:41:53,400 --> 03:41:55,400
Speaker 1: see guys stand by the board and all that. And

4273
03:41:55,959 --> 03:41:58,760
Speaker 1: but that's the idea. Tony Romo. Let me get an example.

4274
03:41:58,840 --> 03:42:02,720
Speaker 1: Tony Romo was not drafted. Then he became a priority

4275
03:42:02,760 --> 03:42:06,160
Speaker 1: free agent. Boom, go to work, Bill Parcels, Jerry Jones,

4276
03:42:06,240 --> 03:42:08,760
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, try and get him to be a Dallas

4277
03:42:08,840 --> 03:42:12,039
Speaker 1: cowboy in that in fact happened. So and Andrew Brandt's

4278
03:42:12,040 --> 03:42:14,400
Speaker 1: gonna tweet out his favorite story here in a minute

4279
03:42:14,440 --> 03:42:16,440
Speaker 1: about how he was working in the Green Bay for

4280
03:42:16,480 --> 03:42:19,119
Speaker 1: ant office and oh three, and and nobody was interested

4281
03:42:19,160 --> 03:42:22,600
Speaker 1: in signing Tony Romo to an undrafted contract. So yeah,

4282
03:42:23,040 --> 03:42:25,080
Speaker 1: but no, it is, I mean so yeah, I mean

4283
03:42:25,120 --> 03:42:27,160
Speaker 1: the seventh round will probably be over by about I

4284
03:42:27,160 --> 03:42:30,600
Speaker 1: don't know five. It is the light, Yeah, Oga, the

4285
03:42:30,720 --> 03:42:33,120
Speaker 1: Pixar coming off there. I'm gonna stump you on a

4286
03:42:33,160 --> 03:42:37,320
Speaker 1: guy there. Day the Jacksonville Jaguars at the two hundred

4287
03:42:37,320 --> 03:42:39,600
Speaker 1: and twentieth spot took a wide receiver from Mammouth, New

4288
03:42:39,720 --> 03:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Jersey Mammouth College named Neil Sterling. What do you know

4289
03:42:43,440 --> 03:42:45,879
Speaker 1: about Neil Sterling? Uh, you know he's a big kid.

4290
03:42:47,520 --> 03:42:50,160
Speaker 1: Uh now he's six two, two thirty five. He I

4291
03:42:50,240 --> 03:42:52,440
Speaker 1: did see a little bit of him. Yeah, I don't

4292
03:42:52,480 --> 03:42:57,000
Speaker 1: think we're talking about Miles Austin Miles Aston, yeah exact, yeah, yeah,

4293
03:42:57,480 --> 03:43:01,480
Speaker 1: but he's a thick player. He looks all bit of

4294
03:43:01,520 --> 03:43:04,600
Speaker 1: two thirty five. Um, surprise he's drafted over some of

4295
03:43:04,640 --> 03:43:07,720
Speaker 1: these players. We I mean, Trey McBride, something is going

4296
03:43:07,800 --> 03:43:10,000
Speaker 1: on with him that he's still on the board. Well McBride,

4297
03:43:10,160 --> 03:43:13,000
Speaker 1: Lewis you know Farmer, These are all guys we talked.

4298
03:43:13,120 --> 03:43:15,000
Speaker 1: I have a feeling you're gonna see these guys come

4299
03:43:15,080 --> 03:43:17,680
Speaker 1: off the board and maybe as we get closer to

4300
03:43:17,800 --> 03:43:20,879
Speaker 1: Dallas's pick with two in this round, like we alluded

4301
03:43:20,879 --> 03:43:24,080
Speaker 1: to before our break, I walked down the coaching the

4302
03:43:24,200 --> 03:43:27,280
Speaker 1: coaching corridor while we were out in commercial and uh

4303
03:43:27,760 --> 03:43:30,680
Speaker 1: could hear could hear some rumblings coming from Derek Dooley's office.

4304
03:43:30,720 --> 03:43:32,760
Speaker 1: So we'll see if they're gonna get into any was

4305
03:43:32,840 --> 03:43:36,240
Speaker 1: Derek on a rampage? Rampage is not fair, but you

4306
03:43:36,320 --> 03:43:39,800
Speaker 1: could just kind of hear him was he mumbling. It was.

4307
03:43:40,320 --> 03:43:43,560
Speaker 1: It was like an excited kind of chatter that classic.

4308
03:43:43,640 --> 03:43:45,600
Speaker 1: Well he's you know, and what they're doing, Like I said,

4309
03:43:45,720 --> 03:43:48,199
Speaker 1: these the scouts are with the coaches. They're doing recruiting

4310
03:43:48,240 --> 03:43:50,720
Speaker 1: and this is what Derek Dooley can do. Derek Dooley,

4311
03:43:50,720 --> 03:43:53,360
Speaker 1: get on the phone. That dude sell That dude will

4312
03:43:53,400 --> 03:43:56,760
Speaker 1: sell you like he'll sell you a bridge. Y. Yeah. Yeah,

4313
03:43:56,920 --> 03:43:59,880
Speaker 1: So that's what's going on right now, this this round,

4314
03:44:00,040 --> 03:44:02,480
Speaker 1: these picks will go. You know, teams have an idea,

4315
03:44:02,680 --> 03:44:05,320
Speaker 1: I bet, and you gotta believe the offensive coaches are like,

4316
03:44:05,440 --> 03:44:07,760
Speaker 1: give us somebody, Come on, it's been all defense. Well,

4317
03:44:08,080 --> 03:44:10,160
Speaker 1: who are the most elite players on this team? If

4318
03:44:10,200 --> 03:44:12,920
Speaker 1: you think right now, I'm aware of that. That doesn't

4319
03:44:12,959 --> 03:44:15,880
Speaker 1: mean Derek Dooley doesn't want another wide receiver. I'm sure

4320
03:44:16,240 --> 03:44:18,520
Speaker 1: Derek Dooley would like ten watch sup Arry Brown wants

4321
03:44:18,520 --> 03:44:20,600
Speaker 1: a running back to play around with. I bet you yeah,

4322
03:44:20,720 --> 03:44:23,199
Speaker 1: Well that they might see some again the priority free agents.

4323
03:44:23,200 --> 03:44:28,080
Speaker 1: They're showing some highlights right now of Neil Sterling and

4324
03:44:29,040 --> 03:44:32,040
Speaker 1: Danish Right. This kid is a good looking sucker, isn't

4325
03:44:32,080 --> 03:44:35,080
Speaker 1: He is a good looking kid wearing number seventeen and

4326
03:44:35,120 --> 03:44:38,160
Speaker 1: that's also you can probably count seventeen people in the stands. Yeah,

4327
03:44:38,400 --> 03:44:42,920
Speaker 1: he's not a big stadium, but from Mammoth College. And uh,

4328
03:44:43,360 --> 03:44:45,320
Speaker 1: you said not Miles Austin. He's much bigger than Miles

4329
03:44:45,360 --> 03:44:48,680
Speaker 1: Austin's right. Well, it's just you know, looking at the

4330
03:44:48,760 --> 03:44:52,480
Speaker 1: receiver still on the board, I'm just shocked about Trey McBride.

4331
03:44:52,560 --> 03:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Top one talent, Mike, Well, we've got Dallas's. Dallas's first

4332
03:44:56,000 --> 03:44:58,640
Speaker 1: pick is gonna be at two thirty six. This is

4333
03:44:58,680 --> 03:45:02,640
Speaker 1: the pick that they got from um, the San Diego Chargers. Uh,

4334
03:45:02,879 --> 03:45:08,480
Speaker 1: in the or it's I wasn't the defensive tackle. Oh

4335
03:45:08,560 --> 03:45:13,760
Speaker 1: my god, what's his name? Where it's killing? Oh, it's killing.

4336
03:45:13,840 --> 03:45:17,320
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta remember. No, it's I can't. I

4337
03:45:17,440 --> 03:45:20,480
Speaker 1: can't not remember. You're not gonna remember that. No, it's

4338
03:45:20,560 --> 03:45:23,920
Speaker 1: just it's right on the tip of my tongue. I'm

4339
03:45:23,959 --> 03:45:25,960
Speaker 1: calling up the roster right now, and you're not helping.

4340
03:45:26,040 --> 03:45:28,040
Speaker 1: What's his name? I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see if

4341
03:45:28,080 --> 03:45:32,920
Speaker 1: you get it. Oh no, I mean I'm looking. Uh. Oh,

4342
03:45:33,879 --> 03:45:36,680
Speaker 1: really try hard, guy, No, I know, it's it's right

4343
03:45:36,760 --> 03:45:38,880
Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue. Is he not with

4344
03:45:39,040 --> 03:45:43,119
Speaker 1: San Diego restricted guy. What's his name? What is his name?

4345
03:45:44,440 --> 03:45:51,400
Speaker 1: You don't know either? What a disasters terrible he was on?

4346
03:45:51,520 --> 03:45:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh you know, you seriously don't remember. I don't remember.

4347
03:45:54,600 --> 03:45:56,480
Speaker 1: Somebody tweet me what this guy's now? Oh, here we

4348
03:45:56,560 --> 03:46:00,440
Speaker 1: go and Everyboddy, Everybuddy John Nelson, John listen, that's what

4349
03:46:00,560 --> 03:46:03,520
Speaker 1: it was. I couldn't remember. I was open. You were

4350
03:46:03,520 --> 03:46:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna get acting like I'm a jerk because I don't know.

4351
03:46:06,240 --> 03:46:08,680
Speaker 1: I played some games without a helmet. I don't remember

4352
03:46:08,760 --> 03:46:13,840
Speaker 1: this stuff, Like Buddy John Nelson in Liverpool he gets

4353
03:46:13,879 --> 03:46:18,640
Speaker 1: Sean listen more, thank you very much, Anthony, whoopee, Jazz God,

4354
03:46:18,920 --> 03:46:21,280
Speaker 1: Justin and everyone of them, all these cowboy fans. Here

4355
03:46:21,320 --> 03:46:22,680
Speaker 1: we are. We worked to the team and we can't

4356
03:46:22,680 --> 03:46:25,800
Speaker 1: even remember these players. Is that what this pick is?

4357
03:46:25,959 --> 03:46:27,840
Speaker 1: I believe this pick was for him, kay, So I

4358
03:46:27,920 --> 03:46:30,520
Speaker 1: believe that that was what it was. So, uh so

4359
03:46:30,720 --> 03:46:33,440
Speaker 1: anyway that would be let's let's let's project now, I

4360
03:46:33,520 --> 03:46:38,640
Speaker 1: mean it's we got to try and project some guys here.

4361
03:46:38,760 --> 03:46:43,199
Speaker 1: I mean potentially, uh Dane value anything that you see

4362
03:46:43,760 --> 03:46:46,280
Speaker 1: that you think something that you you do not want

4363
03:46:46,320 --> 03:46:49,000
Speaker 1: to fight for in free agency. You want to go

4364
03:46:49,080 --> 03:46:52,280
Speaker 1: ahead and knock this thing out right now. I mean

4365
03:46:52,360 --> 03:46:54,560
Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and just say, Okay, this

4366
03:46:54,720 --> 03:46:56,520
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do. We don't want to fight

4367
03:46:56,560 --> 03:46:59,480
Speaker 1: anybody in free agency. We're gonna we're gonna draft one

4368
03:46:59,520 --> 03:47:02,040
Speaker 1: of these guys, Sean listen more. And a lot of

4369
03:47:02,120 --> 03:47:06,160
Speaker 1: times that comes down to, you know, offensive lineman, you

4370
03:47:06,240 --> 03:47:09,760
Speaker 1: know the big guys that will have options in free agency,

4371
03:47:09,840 --> 03:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Guys that you know their phone is gonna be buzzing.

4372
03:47:12,920 --> 03:47:16,040
Speaker 1: And right now it's when you start calling these guys

4373
03:47:16,080 --> 03:47:18,200
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know, we might draft you at

4374
03:47:18,240 --> 03:47:20,520
Speaker 1: two thirty six. We don't know, but if we don't,

4375
03:47:21,200 --> 03:47:22,960
Speaker 1: we're going to be very interested to bring you in

4376
03:47:23,000 --> 03:47:25,480
Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent, a priority guy. You know,

4377
03:47:25,879 --> 03:47:29,760
Speaker 1: we love you. There you're selling, they're selling exactly. So

4378
03:47:30,240 --> 03:47:33,280
Speaker 1: right now is when they're on the phone. It's gonna

4379
03:47:33,280 --> 03:47:36,040
Speaker 1: be interesting with some of these players because it's a

4380
03:47:36,120 --> 03:47:38,480
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a game. You you kind

4381
03:47:38,520 --> 03:47:40,400
Speaker 1: of have to weigh who do you think you can

4382
03:47:40,440 --> 03:47:42,560
Speaker 1: get as an undrafted free agent? Who do you think

4383
03:47:42,640 --> 03:47:44,800
Speaker 1: you need to draft just to make sure you secure

4384
03:47:44,840 --> 03:47:47,960
Speaker 1: his rights? Uh, it's interesting part of the seventh round.

4385
03:47:48,240 --> 03:47:52,120
Speaker 1: Dave from what you know team needs wise for the

4386
03:47:52,200 --> 03:47:55,119
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, You've addressed a lot of different things, mostly

4387
03:47:55,160 --> 03:47:58,440
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Today and and

4388
03:47:58,640 --> 03:48:02,920
Speaker 1: and the last few days you have where do you

4389
03:48:03,040 --> 03:48:06,160
Speaker 1: see is there one position? Is there you need another?

4390
03:48:06,560 --> 03:48:09,360
Speaker 1: Do you need another guard? Do you need another you

4391
03:48:09,440 --> 03:48:12,040
Speaker 1: know you're thinking about preseason games and stuff like that.

4392
03:48:12,320 --> 03:48:15,520
Speaker 1: You know you need more offensive lineman kinding back. I mean,

4393
03:48:15,640 --> 03:48:17,200
Speaker 1: is this kind of well I was going to mention

4394
03:48:17,280 --> 03:48:19,120
Speaker 1: that this kind of plays into it. We've been mentioning

4395
03:48:19,200 --> 03:48:22,039
Speaker 1: this a few times over the weekend. Adam Schefter reporting

4396
03:48:22,160 --> 03:48:25,680
Speaker 1: that Zach Stacey is now a Jet in exchange for

4397
03:48:25,879 --> 03:48:29,600
Speaker 1: the two twenty four overall pick, which, okay, coming up,

4398
03:48:29,800 --> 03:48:32,880
Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah, so the Rams get another pick at

4399
03:48:32,920 --> 03:48:36,080
Speaker 1: two twenty four and exchange for a decent I mean,

4400
03:48:36,240 --> 03:48:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna wouldn't be the starter here anyway.

4401
03:48:38,879 --> 03:48:41,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of of the opinion people will

4402
03:48:41,320 --> 03:48:43,360
Speaker 1: say running back, But if you weren't going to take

4403
03:48:43,400 --> 03:48:46,000
Speaker 1: a real difference maker, I think you got four that

4404
03:48:46,120 --> 03:48:49,720
Speaker 1: you can roll with. It is concerning, but it's not

4405
03:48:49,840 --> 03:48:52,400
Speaker 1: something that I'm concerned, like, you know, really worried about

4406
03:48:52,560 --> 03:48:56,760
Speaker 1: in terms of just adding depth. Guys, I think safety,

4407
03:48:56,959 --> 03:48:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, you think about sure, I mean not so

4408
03:48:59,080 --> 03:49:02,240
Speaker 1: much for safety play, but special teams. You know, the C. J. Spillman,

4409
03:49:02,720 --> 03:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Danny McCray type of guy that can do special teams.

4410
03:49:05,600 --> 03:49:08,320
Speaker 1: And and you know, like you said, preseason games, um,

4411
03:49:08,520 --> 03:49:11,080
Speaker 1: the hockey kid from TCUs still on the board, the

4412
03:49:11,120 --> 03:49:13,120
Speaker 1: guy they see as a free safety. I know you

4413
03:49:13,240 --> 03:49:16,160
Speaker 1: wave your hand, yeah. And then my guy Jefferson. And

4414
03:49:16,720 --> 03:49:19,000
Speaker 1: Jefferson is one that I when we brought him up,

4415
03:49:19,000 --> 03:49:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean we liked him at the Senior Bowl. I did.

4416
03:49:21,280 --> 03:49:23,800
Speaker 1: I think that I tried to convince Dane that that

4417
03:49:23,960 --> 03:49:25,880
Speaker 1: he was a really, really good player, and Dane kind

4418
03:49:25,880 --> 03:49:30,480
Speaker 1: of laughed at me. And that's okay. Jefferson, No, I

4419
03:49:30,600 --> 03:49:32,960
Speaker 1: do watch him call it he covers strong. I mean

4420
03:49:33,080 --> 03:49:34,640
Speaker 1: you watch you know, you talk about a guy that

4421
03:49:34,680 --> 03:49:36,520
Speaker 1: could play with a little rain. I mean, that's just me.

4422
03:49:36,680 --> 03:49:38,400
Speaker 1: This is this is where I like him though. I mean,

4423
03:49:38,440 --> 03:49:40,240
Speaker 1: this is we're talking later rounds. This is where I

4424
03:49:40,280 --> 03:49:42,400
Speaker 1: do like Anthony Jeffers. This is and this is I mean,

4425
03:49:42,480 --> 03:49:44,560
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking at here is you know, they

4426
03:49:44,680 --> 03:49:47,320
Speaker 1: need they need gunners, they need kick returners, they need

4427
03:49:47,440 --> 03:49:50,600
Speaker 1: kick coverage guys. I still think, which I'm sure Derek

4428
03:49:50,640 --> 03:49:53,000
Speaker 1: Dooley is talking about right now, they could use a

4429
03:49:53,160 --> 03:49:56,480
Speaker 1: receiver to kind of help handle that load because I

4430
03:49:56,520 --> 03:49:58,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't look at Devin Street as a special

4431
03:49:58,640 --> 03:50:01,880
Speaker 1: teams type guy. Um, so that's that's where I'm looking.

4432
03:50:02,360 --> 03:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Focus on specialty. Let's go to the inside there, can't

4433
03:50:04,840 --> 03:50:06,920
Speaker 1: you get some news force breaking news. The Rams have

4434
03:50:06,960 --> 03:50:09,640
Speaker 1: traded Zach Stacy to the Jets for two twenty four. Okay,

4435
03:50:09,680 --> 03:50:11,640
Speaker 1: so two twenty four is now on the clock and

4436
03:50:11,800 --> 03:50:14,480
Speaker 1: that pick looks like it's going in, so we will

4437
03:50:14,560 --> 03:50:18,360
Speaker 1: see who in fact, uh the uh, the Saint Louis Rams.

4438
03:50:18,440 --> 03:50:21,320
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Rams scene, they've been picking the whole day. Yeah,

4439
03:50:21,720 --> 03:50:24,680
Speaker 1: it's the second day they've just been well, they made that. Um,

4440
03:50:25,000 --> 03:50:26,800
Speaker 1: they made that trade. They make it to the redskin

4441
03:50:26,880 --> 03:50:28,680
Speaker 1: trade where I didn't know about. No, they made they

4442
03:50:28,800 --> 03:50:31,000
Speaker 1: I think they made a trade with Carolina where Carolina

4443
03:50:31,240 --> 03:50:35,000
Speaker 1: jack sixteen spots. I'm with you, I'm with you, Okay.

4444
03:50:35,120 --> 03:50:38,960
Speaker 1: Bryce Hager is the pick from for the Saint Louis Rams.

4445
03:50:39,320 --> 03:50:45,440
Speaker 1: The inside linebacker Baylor Bear. Some peoplective sick, sick them,

4446
03:50:45,960 --> 03:50:50,680
Speaker 1: but to Texas, his dad was a big Texas All

4447
03:50:50,720 --> 03:50:53,640
Speaker 1: Southwest Conference player. Lining mac Brown's kicking himself. He didn't

4448
03:50:53,680 --> 03:50:57,040
Speaker 1: offer Bryce Hager more than a walk on opportunity for

4449
03:50:57,120 --> 03:50:58,720
Speaker 1: the long Horns because he went to Baylor and he

4450
03:50:58,760 --> 03:51:00,520
Speaker 1: had a terrific and actually, if you want, he played

4451
03:51:00,520 --> 03:51:03,280
Speaker 1: well against Texas in the game a chip, Yeah, he

4452
03:51:03,360 --> 03:51:06,240
Speaker 1: did have a chip. So yeah, Bryce Hager, the you

4453
03:51:06,320 --> 03:51:08,440
Speaker 1: know here, here's a guy I think in some mock drafts,

4454
03:51:08,480 --> 03:51:11,560
Speaker 1: I thought about putting Bryce Hager as that guy that,

4455
03:51:11,760 --> 03:51:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, that an instinctive kind of a player you

4456
03:51:15,160 --> 03:51:17,960
Speaker 1: flow to the football. Probably not the best athlete, but

4457
03:51:18,080 --> 03:51:21,640
Speaker 1: you talk about football smarts, intelligent player, all those things

4458
03:51:21,720 --> 03:51:23,680
Speaker 1: you want. There's some times where I thought he was

4459
03:51:23,720 --> 03:51:26,680
Speaker 1: a little bit iffy as a tackler, but the other times,

4460
03:51:26,760 --> 03:51:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't one of those guys that dismissed

4461
03:51:29,040 --> 03:51:33,680
Speaker 1: every single tackle. So Bryce Hager, inside linebacker from Baylor

4462
03:51:33,880 --> 03:51:37,400
Speaker 1: goes to the Saint Louis Rams. So we're now to

4463
03:51:37,600 --> 03:51:41,720
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons at pick two twenty five. Again trying

4464
03:51:41,720 --> 03:51:45,480
Speaker 1: to project some guys that potentially Dallas's first pick are

4465
03:51:45,480 --> 03:51:48,280
Speaker 1: Excuna first pick in the in the round will be

4466
03:51:48,440 --> 03:51:52,760
Speaker 1: at two thirty six. We seem to think that this

4467
03:51:52,960 --> 03:51:55,520
Speaker 1: could be kick returner type guys. We seem to think

4468
03:51:55,600 --> 03:51:57,800
Speaker 1: that maybe could there be a guard there? How about

4469
03:51:57,800 --> 03:52:02,200
Speaker 1: the how about the uh the uh the Mattis kid,

4470
03:52:02,480 --> 03:52:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying his name wrong from Florida State. Uh the

4471
03:52:06,560 --> 03:52:10,120
Speaker 1: m A t I A s Oh matthais Yeah, the

4472
03:52:10,160 --> 03:52:15,960
Speaker 1: guard matais, Yeah, Matais. Yeah. Anything Combine killed him? Yeah,

4473
03:52:16,080 --> 03:52:17,320
Speaker 1: that was what he was. Bad. It was bad. But

4474
03:52:17,440 --> 03:52:20,240
Speaker 1: the film is not terrible. Oh no, it's fourth round films,

4475
03:52:20,360 --> 03:52:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, around the never rounds. But yeah, I think

4476
03:52:22,400 --> 03:52:26,160
Speaker 1: that Combine really put up flares. Teams really worried about,

4477
03:52:26,440 --> 03:52:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, when you jump. Uh what he had like

4478
03:52:29,400 --> 03:52:31,880
Speaker 1: a twenty seven inch vertical or something ridiculous? Yeah, it was.

4479
03:52:31,960 --> 03:52:34,520
Speaker 1: It was not good. You he's I mean, he's a

4480
03:52:34,640 --> 03:52:37,240
Speaker 1: much better athlete on tape than he is. Yeah you

4481
03:52:37,320 --> 03:52:39,480
Speaker 1: aren't guessing that. Yeah, I'm sorry. Seventeen and a half

4482
03:52:39,520 --> 03:52:42,520
Speaker 1: inch Yeah, oh my god, I think I can do that. Yeah, yeah,

4483
03:52:42,560 --> 03:52:45,200
Speaker 1: all right. Jake Rogers the picks in. Jake Rogers from

4484
03:52:45,240 --> 03:52:49,960
Speaker 1: Eastern Washington is the pick Washington State trans Yeah, Washington State.

4485
03:52:50,280 --> 03:52:53,560
Speaker 1: He is a offensive tackle Eastern Washington. From Eastern Washington

4486
03:52:53,560 --> 03:52:56,080
Speaker 1: transferred from Washington State. I want to pick your brain

4487
03:52:56,160 --> 03:52:59,720
Speaker 1: for a sect. Though you mentioned guard twice. I mean

4488
03:53:00,080 --> 03:53:02,440
Speaker 1: you thinking that's a I mean they got they have

4489
03:53:02,680 --> 03:53:05,200
Speaker 1: three pretty good ones right now. Is that somewhere where

4490
03:53:05,240 --> 03:53:07,240
Speaker 1: you need to address? I just I was just thinking

4491
03:53:07,240 --> 03:53:09,680
Speaker 1: about preseason games and stuff like that. You know, you're

4492
03:53:09,760 --> 03:53:11,840
Speaker 1: sure you don't want to. You don't want to. I mean, hey,

4493
03:53:11,880 --> 03:53:13,520
Speaker 1: you want to say where and tear on these guys.

4494
03:53:13,600 --> 03:53:15,840
Speaker 1: You don't want, you know, Zach Martin having to play

4495
03:53:15,840 --> 03:53:18,120
Speaker 1: a lot of the draft pick on him though. I mean, well,

4496
03:53:18,120 --> 03:53:19,560
Speaker 1: if it's a guy that you feel like could maybe

4497
03:53:19,560 --> 03:53:21,720
Speaker 1: be a practice squad guy, Martin, you got Martin, you

4498
03:53:21,800 --> 03:53:24,480
Speaker 1: got Leary, you got mac. Yeah, you feel pretty good

4499
03:53:24,480 --> 03:53:27,600
Speaker 1: about all of them on your fifty s. Sure, but

4500
03:53:27,720 --> 03:53:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean I'm trying to maybe find a developmental guy here.

4501
03:53:30,120 --> 03:53:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking for traits. I'm just trying to

4502
03:53:32,040 --> 03:53:34,440
Speaker 1: find a trait. I know, I don't know. I mean,

4503
03:53:35,080 --> 03:53:37,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're quibbling. These aren't

4504
03:53:37,680 --> 03:53:41,000
Speaker 1: valuable picks. But well, you never know, I mean, you don't,

4505
03:53:41,080 --> 03:53:43,560
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't. Jay Ratliffe was a seventh round pick. Yeah,

4506
03:53:44,120 --> 03:53:47,920
Speaker 1: Marcus Colson was a seventh round pick. But no, you're right.

4507
03:53:47,960 --> 03:53:50,080
Speaker 1: I just when you're talking about a guy like that,

4508
03:53:50,520 --> 03:53:54,280
Speaker 1: you know you're set at that position in terms of

4509
03:53:54,440 --> 03:53:57,080
Speaker 1: meaningful player. I was just trying to find guys, and

4510
03:53:57,480 --> 03:54:01,600
Speaker 1: Bill Jones didn't like. He didn't like h Shed, I mean,

4511
03:54:01,720 --> 03:54:05,680
Speaker 1: and I not. Yeah, I disagree with I disagree with

4512
03:54:05,760 --> 03:54:09,600
Speaker 1: Bill on this Shed part because this is crazy. People

4513
03:54:09,640 --> 03:54:12,000
Speaker 1: from the Giants who are gonna announce their their wedding.

4514
03:54:12,040 --> 03:54:14,840
Speaker 1: It's their wedding anniversary or wedding day. They're gonna announce

4515
03:54:14,880 --> 03:54:17,080
Speaker 1: the pick. NFL fans are the best. Can't we pull

4516
03:54:17,120 --> 03:54:19,240
Speaker 1: this up? The Giants are about to make a pick.

4517
03:54:19,320 --> 03:54:22,920
Speaker 1: We welcome Paul and Jennifer Durrasmo. Guys, who's the Giants pick?

4518
03:54:24,040 --> 03:54:26,640
Speaker 1: With the ninth pick of the seventh round, number two

4519
03:54:26,760 --> 03:54:29,960
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six overall, the New York Football Giants

4520
03:54:30,120 --> 03:54:34,640
Speaker 1: select Bobby Hart, guard Florida Speed, Florida State. There you go,

4521
03:54:34,800 --> 03:54:36,720
Speaker 1: Bobby Hart, not the one we were talking all right? Ohell,

4522
03:54:36,800 --> 03:54:39,400
Speaker 1: this is again. These people here, they just evidently got

4523
03:54:39,560 --> 03:54:43,560
Speaker 1: married at the draft party and now they're they're announced

4524
03:54:43,560 --> 03:54:46,040
Speaker 1: to pick. So Bobby our heart's interesting because he's his

4525
03:54:46,120 --> 03:54:49,600
Speaker 1: tape was not impressive at all. But he's at twenty

4526
03:54:49,640 --> 03:54:53,240
Speaker 1: years old. He arrived at Florida State as a sixteen

4527
03:54:53,320 --> 03:54:55,680
Speaker 1: year old. UM. So he's a very young player and

4528
03:54:55,840 --> 03:54:59,040
Speaker 1: teams love that youth. They think they can get the upside.

4529
03:54:59,400 --> 03:55:03,160
Speaker 1: But seeing him on the Giants not something cowboys fans

4530
03:55:03,200 --> 03:55:08,080
Speaker 1: have to worry about. Okay, review, I'd tell you this time.

4531
03:55:08,360 --> 03:55:09,880
Speaker 1: This is time of the day where that you get

4532
03:55:09,920 --> 03:55:12,000
Speaker 1: a little snarky. I think it is that the right

4533
03:55:12,040 --> 03:55:14,840
Speaker 1: word about these players. I'm just the fact I'm going

4534
03:55:14,960 --> 03:55:17,600
Speaker 1: to die laughing if Curtis Drummond is about to become

4535
03:55:17,600 --> 03:55:19,640
Speaker 1: a cowboy like I won't be able to interview the

4536
03:55:19,720 --> 03:55:21,800
Speaker 1: kid because I'll be last. I've talked to him to

4537
03:55:22,160 --> 03:55:24,920
Speaker 1: or talking to him a few times. He's he's he's awesome.

4538
03:55:24,960 --> 03:55:27,280
Speaker 1: He's a good kid to talk to, so U when

4539
03:55:27,320 --> 03:55:29,520
Speaker 1: we talk about the player, that's what I was talking about.

4540
03:55:29,920 --> 03:55:31,920
Speaker 1: But I think he has the mental toughness where he

4541
03:55:32,000 --> 03:55:33,720
Speaker 1: can take it. I mean he's can he take me

4542
03:55:33,800 --> 03:55:35,880
Speaker 1: ripping him a little bit? I think so. I mean

4543
03:55:35,920 --> 03:55:37,600
Speaker 1: he's taking in a seventh round for a reason, and

4544
03:55:37,640 --> 03:55:39,280
Speaker 1: so he knows he has to a lot to show

4545
03:55:39,360 --> 03:55:42,160
Speaker 1: up or a lot to prove once he arrives. Martin

4546
03:55:42,280 --> 03:55:46,720
Speaker 1: Effetti Effettie, his younger brother. We'll be talking about maybe

4547
03:55:46,760 --> 03:55:51,200
Speaker 1: next year at this time. Texas A and M offensive tackle. Wow,

4548
03:55:51,360 --> 03:55:54,720
Speaker 1: he's taking over for a boy he at left tackle.

4549
03:55:54,800 --> 03:55:57,600
Speaker 1: He's that you know they seem to have. Yeah, the

4550
03:55:58,640 --> 03:56:02,040
Speaker 1: Matthews right a boo. Now if Eddie's gonna be the

4551
03:56:02,080 --> 03:56:04,160
Speaker 1: next left tackle for the Aggies, and so we're gonna

4552
03:56:04,160 --> 03:56:06,440
Speaker 1: be talking about him. He almost came out this year

4553
03:56:06,640 --> 03:56:08,600
Speaker 1: as a as a redshirt sophomore. He got a second

4554
03:56:08,680 --> 03:56:11,360
Speaker 1: round grade. But he's going back to school and as

4555
03:56:11,400 --> 03:56:13,480
Speaker 1: a redshirt junior. If he comes out early, could be

4556
03:56:13,760 --> 03:56:16,000
Speaker 1: talking about him as a first rounder. Yeah, Texas A

4557
03:56:16,040 --> 03:56:19,520
Speaker 1: and M seems done a really nice job of recruiting.

4558
03:56:19,600 --> 03:56:23,080
Speaker 1: Sorry with Sherman. Yeah, and someone's kept that going. That's

4559
03:56:23,320 --> 03:56:25,120
Speaker 1: the whole lineman that had come out of that school

4560
03:56:25,120 --> 03:56:27,280
Speaker 1: in the last four or five years. Yeah. Absolutely, Okay,

4561
03:56:27,320 --> 03:56:31,040
Speaker 1: this Uh, the Minnesota Vikings are on the clock here

4562
03:56:31,160 --> 03:56:35,560
Speaker 1: at here in the seventh round, pick two twenty eight.

4563
03:56:35,680 --> 03:56:38,880
Speaker 1: We're working our way down to Dallas's pick, the first

4564
03:56:38,920 --> 03:56:41,400
Speaker 1: pick in the seventh round for them at pick two

4565
03:56:41,800 --> 03:56:44,920
Speaker 1: thirty six. So we were trying to come up with

4566
03:56:45,040 --> 03:56:51,400
Speaker 1: some names of potential potential draft picks. Again, we do

4567
03:56:51,600 --> 03:56:54,520
Speaker 1: we don't want to battle in free agency. And let's

4568
03:56:54,600 --> 03:56:57,920
Speaker 1: remember there we talked about like the top one hundred

4569
03:56:57,920 --> 03:57:00,440
Speaker 1: and fifty players. Say that, I think every one around

4570
03:57:00,440 --> 03:57:02,840
Speaker 1: the league say, Okay, this guy's gonna get drafted. Then

4571
03:57:02,880 --> 03:57:07,040
Speaker 1: the final one hundred are just trait. It's out of

4572
03:57:07,200 --> 03:57:08,960
Speaker 1: like a list of a thousand names. Yeah, and you

4573
03:57:09,000 --> 03:57:11,040
Speaker 1: know people say, well, how could this guy not be

4574
03:57:11,120 --> 03:57:13,200
Speaker 1: invited to the combine or how did how could you

4575
03:57:13,280 --> 03:57:15,240
Speaker 1: guys not have this guy on your radar. Well, when

4576
03:57:15,280 --> 03:57:18,760
Speaker 1: you're talking about again about the top one hundred and

4577
03:57:18,800 --> 03:57:23,160
Speaker 1: fifty guys are set in stone as probably draftable. Those

4578
03:57:23,280 --> 03:57:26,200
Speaker 1: next one hundred, the final one hundred draft picks are

4579
03:57:26,280 --> 03:57:28,520
Speaker 1: out of a pool of about a thousand names that

4580
03:57:28,680 --> 03:57:30,640
Speaker 1: these teams have done a lot of work on. And

4581
03:57:31,000 --> 03:57:34,800
Speaker 1: so it's it's impossible to accurately peg who who's which

4582
03:57:34,800 --> 03:57:37,600
Speaker 1: team's gonna take who in the seventh round. But there

4583
03:57:37,840 --> 03:57:40,320
Speaker 1: are some talented players are still available. We've seen some

4584
03:57:40,400 --> 03:57:44,440
Speaker 1: guys just go like rakeem Nunion's roaches. Austin Shepherd, a

4585
03:57:44,480 --> 03:57:47,480
Speaker 1: talented player him he took over for Dj Fluker at

4586
03:57:47,480 --> 03:57:50,040
Speaker 1: Alabama at right tackle. I think he's probably better inside

4587
03:57:50,080 --> 03:57:53,480
Speaker 1: a guard. So the Vikings, a team that's had a

4588
03:57:53,520 --> 03:57:56,800
Speaker 1: really good draft. They got TJ. Clemings late and they

4589
03:57:56,880 --> 03:58:00,480
Speaker 1: got Austin Shepherd late, two guys to help that offensive line. Again,

4590
03:58:00,560 --> 03:58:02,560
Speaker 1: it's just about you don't want to battle. I mean

4591
03:58:02,920 --> 03:58:05,560
Speaker 1: that they felt like, maybe, okay, let's go ahead. We

4592
03:58:05,640 --> 03:58:07,840
Speaker 1: can't wait to free agency. Let's just who is our

4593
03:58:07,920 --> 03:58:10,000
Speaker 1: highest rated guy on the board at this time, and

4594
03:58:10,600 --> 03:58:12,040
Speaker 1: we don't have to battle for at the end of

4595
03:58:12,080 --> 03:58:14,120
Speaker 1: the day. I'm skipping ahead here a little bit because

4596
03:58:14,160 --> 03:58:16,520
Speaker 1: obviously we've got two picks to make for the Cowboys.

4597
03:58:16,720 --> 03:58:19,520
Speaker 1: But you've been in that room when it's time to

4598
03:58:19,960 --> 03:58:24,320
Speaker 1: sign the free agents. Though the battle, yeah speak, it seems,

4599
03:58:24,560 --> 03:58:26,960
Speaker 1: doesn't Dallas have a leg up. I mean it's a

4600
03:58:27,000 --> 03:58:30,320
Speaker 1: warm Yeah. Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones is a closer. There's

4601
03:58:30,360 --> 03:58:32,200
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why I feel like an undrafted

4602
03:58:32,240 --> 03:58:34,160
Speaker 1: free agent would want to come here over somewhere. The

4603
03:58:34,200 --> 03:58:36,960
Speaker 1: biggest and I mean it depends on the depth that Yeah,

4604
03:58:36,960 --> 03:58:40,720
Speaker 1: there's two words right there. The biggest reason why. Yeah,

4605
03:58:40,840 --> 03:58:43,640
Speaker 1: trust me, these players right now, No, they know the

4606
03:58:43,720 --> 03:58:46,760
Speaker 1: depth charge they pull up whatever, and honestly, they see

4607
03:58:46,840 --> 03:58:49,520
Speaker 1: how the drafts gone. Ry agent. If I'm Curtis Drummond

4608
03:58:49,600 --> 03:58:52,240
Speaker 1: or another prospect, at this point, I'm saying, I hope

4609
03:58:52,240 --> 03:58:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't get drafted, yeah, because then you go, yeah,

4610
03:58:55,160 --> 03:58:57,800
Speaker 1: I will likely have at least a handful of options

4611
03:58:58,680 --> 03:59:00,280
Speaker 1: of where I can go. That way, I can look

4612
03:59:00,280 --> 03:59:02,240
Speaker 1: at the depth charts say, okay, this team might have

4613
03:59:02,320 --> 03:59:04,960
Speaker 1: a need. Uh, and you really have your choice of

4614
03:59:05,040 --> 03:59:07,760
Speaker 1: where you end up. So is that a first Notre

4615
03:59:07,840 --> 03:59:10,920
Speaker 1: Dame player off the board? That would be Ben Koyak?

4616
03:59:11,160 --> 03:59:14,000
Speaker 1: Is the first Notre Dame or off the board? Talked

4617
03:59:14,000 --> 03:59:18,280
Speaker 1: about him, Dane, you go, he went to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

4618
03:59:18,360 --> 03:59:21,480
Speaker 1: This is a pick they acquired from the Cleveland Browns.

4619
03:59:21,960 --> 03:59:27,400
Speaker 1: So Ben Koyak at pick two, twenty nine, Senior Bowl guy. Again,

4620
03:59:27,440 --> 03:59:30,280
Speaker 1: we talked about the A and M pipeline of tackles,

4621
03:59:31,560 --> 03:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame pipeline of tight ends. Uh. You know guys

4622
03:59:34,800 --> 03:59:39,720
Speaker 1: like Carlson and Rudolph and the first rounder to the

4623
03:59:39,760 --> 03:59:43,440
Speaker 1: Bengals what's his name? Yeah, hasn't really lived up to

4624
03:59:43,480 --> 03:59:45,680
Speaker 1: that first round billing yet coming off he's been injured. Right,

4625
03:59:45,720 --> 03:59:48,240
Speaker 1: we'll see what he does this year. Um and Koyak

4626
03:59:48,320 --> 03:59:50,840
Speaker 1: continues at wasn't the top one hundred guy like the

4627
03:59:51,120 --> 03:59:53,920
Speaker 1: other players we just mentioned, but still a talented player,

4628
03:59:54,400 --> 03:59:57,040
Speaker 1: well rounded. There's nothing too exciting about his film, but

4629
03:59:57,280 --> 03:59:59,840
Speaker 1: well rounded pass catcher who moved guy? I mean, I

4630
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:01,840
Speaker 1: I see a lot of wing, a lot of across

4631
04:00:01,880 --> 04:00:03,760
Speaker 1: the formation, a lot of out in the flat. I'm

4632
04:00:03,800 --> 04:00:06,640
Speaker 1: going to separate, but you know he does have some

4633
04:00:06,840 --> 04:00:10,640
Speaker 1: he does have natural hands to compete for compete at

4634
04:00:10,640 --> 04:00:13,360
Speaker 1: the catchpoint. So I think with Koyak, you have a

4635
04:00:13,520 --> 04:00:16,560
Speaker 1: tight end who can compete for snaps. Fasano notre dame

4636
04:00:16,640 --> 04:00:19,600
Speaker 1: guy to another one Dallas's own, well Dallas for a

4637
04:00:19,640 --> 04:00:22,720
Speaker 1: little while at least, yeah, doesn't Bill parslays. Okay, The

4638
04:00:22,800 --> 04:00:26,760
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints are on the clock at at two

4639
04:00:27,040 --> 04:00:30,320
Speaker 1: thirty here, so again we're from them. It would be

4640
04:00:30,520 --> 04:00:33,920
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at two thirty six. We've yet to see

4641
04:00:33,960 --> 04:00:37,400
Speaker 1: anything come from the war room cam that's still covered.

4642
04:00:37,920 --> 04:00:40,760
Speaker 1: That's why you're seeing Dane Brugler from CBS Sports David's

4643
04:00:40,760 --> 04:00:43,440
Speaker 1: seventh Round guys calmed down, you can take the paper off. Well,

4644
04:00:43,480 --> 04:00:45,240
Speaker 1: they might be they might be getting their free agency

4645
04:00:45,320 --> 04:00:48,440
Speaker 1: plans together too as well. So good point. But anyway,

4646
04:00:48,480 --> 04:00:50,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna see two picks from them in this round.

4647
04:00:51,680 --> 04:00:54,920
Speaker 1: As Dane says, though there's some some value still there

4648
04:00:55,240 --> 04:00:57,840
Speaker 1: saints of the talking about the Cowboys going defense. I mean,

4649
04:00:57,880 --> 04:01:00,560
Speaker 1: they took Pete with their first pick, but it's been

4650
04:01:00,840 --> 04:01:02,720
Speaker 1: they took Pete and they took a quarterback, which is

4651
04:01:02,720 --> 04:01:04,520
Speaker 1: always going to move the needle for any team that

4652
04:01:04,600 --> 04:01:06,720
Speaker 1: takes a quarterback. But do we talk about the grace

4653
04:01:06,800 --> 04:01:08,640
Speaker 1: and pet I mean they smoke screen that we thought

4654
04:01:08,640 --> 04:01:11,480
Speaker 1: it was Petty they I thought it was Yeah, I

4655
04:01:11,520 --> 04:01:13,520
Speaker 1: thought it was Petty. It wasn't just the media. There

4656
04:01:13,560 --> 04:01:16,600
Speaker 1: weren't other NFL teams who were convinced Petty was their guy.

4657
04:01:16,760 --> 04:01:20,320
Speaker 1: So uh, they did a nice job of curveball. And

4658
04:01:20,800 --> 04:01:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, look over here while we do this. And

4659
04:01:23,560 --> 04:01:26,520
Speaker 1: but so, like I said, quarterbacks always gonna move the needle.

4660
04:01:26,680 --> 04:01:28,960
Speaker 1: You take your first pick as an offensive tackle. Every

4661
04:01:29,000 --> 04:01:34,200
Speaker 1: other pick they've made, which is one, two, three, four, five, six,

4662
04:01:34,440 --> 04:01:36,880
Speaker 1: all the six of their other picks or defenders. So

4663
04:01:37,360 --> 04:01:39,160
Speaker 1: Rob Ryan's gotta be a happy game, not gonna lie.

4664
04:01:39,160 --> 04:01:40,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big fan. I haven't been a big

4665
04:01:40,520 --> 04:01:42,400
Speaker 1: fan of the Saints what they're what they're doing. Did

4666
04:01:42,400 --> 04:01:44,320
Speaker 1: you call him a loser in this draft? I hate?

4667
04:01:45,240 --> 04:01:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't mean that way, right. I mean

4668
04:01:47,480 --> 04:01:49,800
Speaker 1: a team that, a team that because you can't call

4669
04:01:49,880 --> 04:01:51,480
Speaker 1: loser because again, I had a guy telling me he

4670
04:01:51,520 --> 04:01:53,000
Speaker 1: had the worst draft in the history of the league.

4671
04:01:53,200 --> 04:01:55,480
Speaker 1: And then you know, three years later it's a it's

4672
04:01:55,480 --> 04:01:57,320
Speaker 1: for the eight picks man, exactly. And that's so for

4673
04:01:57,400 --> 04:01:59,680
Speaker 1: this article I'm doing for CBS, I'm picking five winners,

4674
04:01:59,720 --> 04:02:03,200
Speaker 1: five users. Instead of using those uh winners and losers,

4675
04:02:03,600 --> 04:02:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm going with five teams I think did really well, yeah,

4676
04:02:06,720 --> 04:02:08,760
Speaker 1: and then five teams who had me scratching my head

4677
04:02:08,760 --> 04:02:11,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, okay, for different reasons. The losers a

4678
04:02:11,200 --> 04:02:12,600
Speaker 1: strong thing when you talk about and I think the

4679
04:02:12,640 --> 04:02:14,160
Speaker 1: Saints are one of those teams that had me scratching

4680
04:02:14,200 --> 04:02:15,840
Speaker 1: my head a little. I kind of agree with and

4681
04:02:16,040 --> 04:02:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm from New Orleans, but and I don't

4682
04:02:18,240 --> 04:02:19,800
Speaker 1: follow with the Saint. I don't have time if you're

4683
04:02:19,800 --> 04:02:22,840
Speaker 1: gonna see him next year. I don't love the Pete pick.

4684
04:02:23,000 --> 04:02:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't love the Stefan Anthony pick. I don't like

4685
04:02:26,160 --> 04:02:27,920
Speaker 1: the Garrett Grayson pick because I think it's the same

4686
04:02:27,960 --> 04:02:29,920
Speaker 1: thing as Tony Romo here, you're trying to win. Now,

4687
04:02:30,040 --> 04:02:34,400
Speaker 1: I do really like, um they got PJ. Williams and Kikaha. Yeah,

4688
04:02:34,520 --> 04:02:37,600
Speaker 1: I like both of those picks. Can Rush. I like,

4689
04:02:37,760 --> 04:02:41,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna fit good. The Saints have taken They've made

4690
04:02:41,040 --> 04:02:45,360
Speaker 1: a selection. They've taken Marcus Murphy, a running back from Missouri.

4691
04:02:46,160 --> 04:02:51,080
Speaker 1: So they grab another offensive player here, uh to help

4692
04:02:51,440 --> 04:02:55,440
Speaker 1: with their uh with things there at the running back situation.

4693
04:02:55,520 --> 04:02:58,320
Speaker 1: They let Peter Thomas go this past springs, which I

4694
04:02:58,360 --> 04:03:00,720
Speaker 1: mean not that you're expecting your seventh round pick two

4695
04:03:02,120 --> 04:03:04,880
Speaker 1: and really catch on, but we'll see. And here is

4696
04:03:05,000 --> 04:03:07,520
Speaker 1: a the next pick. Now this is how about this

4697
04:03:07,600 --> 04:03:10,320
Speaker 1: one for the this pick today, this pick or for overall.

4698
04:03:10,640 --> 04:03:12,840
Speaker 1: This is pick two thirty one. This pick started off

4699
04:03:12,880 --> 04:03:17,600
Speaker 1: originally in Tampa. It's gone. It's from Miami through Baltimore

4700
04:03:17,720 --> 04:03:21,400
Speaker 1: and Detroit, and now it's back at Tampa. That goes

4701
04:03:21,600 --> 04:03:23,160
Speaker 1: the list of more. Thing is like they made that

4702
04:03:23,200 --> 04:03:26,280
Speaker 1: trade two years ago. It's crazy, you know how something

4703
04:03:26,320 --> 04:03:28,680
Speaker 1: that Yeah, it's a it's crazy how these picks kind

4704
04:03:28,720 --> 04:03:30,720
Speaker 1: of you know, like, how did we even get this thing? Yeah?

4705
04:03:31,160 --> 04:03:32,920
Speaker 1: I thought that that was what the pick was for

4706
04:03:33,160 --> 04:03:35,800
Speaker 1: so so yeah, so this this will be the Tampa

4707
04:03:35,920 --> 04:03:40,440
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers are on the clock here again. Pick two

4708
04:03:40,600 --> 04:03:45,160
Speaker 1: thirty was made Marcus Murphy from the from Missouri. The

4709
04:03:45,240 --> 04:03:47,600
Speaker 1: running back goes of the Saints. We're waiting here on

4710
04:03:47,720 --> 04:03:51,000
Speaker 1: pick two thirty one. Uh. They still have names on

4711
04:03:51,320 --> 04:03:54,760
Speaker 1: their board. Uh to draft, even though they to say

4712
04:03:54,800 --> 04:03:58,280
Speaker 1: a phrase from Bill parcels, this looks like a Thanksgiving

4713
04:03:58,360 --> 04:04:01,280
Speaker 1: Day turkey. About two days later, here's it's nothing but

4714
04:04:01,440 --> 04:04:05,800
Speaker 1: bones and skin and interesting question though, and especially given

4715
04:04:05,840 --> 04:04:08,240
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys have done so far? Are there any

4716
04:04:08,320 --> 04:04:10,440
Speaker 1: guys I can think of one? Are there any guys

4717
04:04:10,480 --> 04:04:13,280
Speaker 1: that took thirty visits that are still on the board,

4718
04:04:13,320 --> 04:04:15,760
Speaker 1: because I mean, by and large, most of their picks

4719
04:04:15,840 --> 04:04:18,720
Speaker 1: so far have been guys that came into Valley Ranch.

4720
04:04:18,760 --> 04:04:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Ryan Russell did, No, he did not,

4721
04:04:21,520 --> 04:04:23,920
Speaker 1: but the other ones all did. Yeah, I mean Gregory

4722
04:04:24,640 --> 04:04:27,360
Speaker 1: did Ryan Russell say that he did come to because

4723
04:04:27,560 --> 04:04:29,600
Speaker 1: they worked him out in West Laffe. Yet maybe he

4724
04:04:30,000 --> 04:04:31,560
Speaker 1: might have snug. He might he might have he might

4725
04:04:31,600 --> 04:04:34,080
Speaker 1: have snow, he might have snuck. What's that kend He

4726
04:04:34,160 --> 04:04:36,840
Speaker 1: came down after Ben Bloom went up there, and I

4727
04:04:36,880 --> 04:04:39,360
Speaker 1: don't think he was an official national visit. He might

4728
04:04:39,440 --> 04:04:41,520
Speaker 1: have been a he might have been a Dallas Day

4729
04:04:41,600 --> 04:04:44,160
Speaker 1: Guallas Day. Yeah, Dallas Day guys, which I mean and

4730
04:04:44,360 --> 04:04:45,880
Speaker 1: you can bring in a lot more of those guys.

4731
04:04:45,920 --> 04:04:49,280
Speaker 1: So that's a different animal. But absolutely, absolutely so. But

4732
04:04:49,440 --> 04:04:51,480
Speaker 1: is there anybody on the board that took a visit

4733
04:04:51,560 --> 04:04:54,400
Speaker 1: like that that's still out there? Well, how about Farmer?

4734
04:04:54,480 --> 04:04:57,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the one that Yeah, George Farmer from USC

4735
04:04:57,160 --> 04:04:59,360
Speaker 1: would be a guy that we Yeah, I'm kind of

4736
04:04:59,560 --> 04:05:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm keeping an eye on George Farmer right now.

4737
04:05:02,640 --> 04:05:04,960
Speaker 1: He fills the need that they have, and you know

4738
04:05:05,080 --> 04:05:08,520
Speaker 1: he was here, so we've talked. Definitely something worth keeping

4739
04:05:08,560 --> 04:05:12,280
Speaker 1: an eye on. Okay, let's see Tampa Bay still on

4740
04:05:12,360 --> 04:05:14,920
Speaker 1: the clock here waiting for their pick at two thirty one.

4741
04:05:15,760 --> 04:05:17,720
Speaker 1: You make a great point, though, Dave, about like the

4742
04:05:17,840 --> 04:05:20,280
Speaker 1: Dallas Day guys and stuff like that. I mean, it's

4743
04:05:20,360 --> 04:05:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to call it. I don't

4744
04:05:22,360 --> 04:05:24,080
Speaker 1: want to call it cheating. It's not like they're breaking

4745
04:05:24,120 --> 04:05:26,400
Speaker 1: any rules, but it's such an advantage for the cowboys.

4746
04:05:26,480 --> 04:05:30,080
Speaker 1: And actually Philly tried to get this rule change because

4747
04:05:30,160 --> 04:05:32,320
Speaker 1: you can, I mean, these these local visit days. You

4748
04:05:32,360 --> 04:05:34,720
Speaker 1: can bring in anyone that lives within a hundred miles

4749
04:05:34,760 --> 04:05:37,000
Speaker 1: of your facility. So, I mean, you think about all

4750
04:05:37,040 --> 04:05:39,240
Speaker 1: the talented football players I live in North Texas. That's

4751
04:05:39,280 --> 04:05:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean. Jaygie was here on Dallas Day and didn't

4752
04:05:42,480 --> 04:05:45,440
Speaker 1: count toward the National thirty visits because it's a Dallas

4753
04:05:45,520 --> 04:05:47,440
Speaker 1: Day product prospect. Even though he might have been one

4754
04:05:47,440 --> 04:05:49,920
Speaker 1: of the top guys on their board, that doesn't count

4755
04:05:49,960 --> 04:05:53,360
Speaker 1: against the tally. And maybe, you know, maybe bringing in

4756
04:05:53,520 --> 04:05:56,880
Speaker 1: Jaygie out as part of Dallas Day allowed them to

4757
04:05:57,000 --> 04:06:00,520
Speaker 1: bring in Damien Wilson instead, you know. So it's a

4758
04:06:00,600 --> 04:06:03,280
Speaker 1: tremendous advantage that that this is such a talent rich

4759
04:06:03,760 --> 04:06:07,400
Speaker 1: area of the country, for sure. Absolutely. And the Buccaneers

4760
04:06:07,440 --> 04:06:14,400
Speaker 1: have taken running back from Hawaii. Uh, Joey from the

4761
04:06:14,520 --> 04:06:16,160
Speaker 1: University of y I don't know, is that that the

4762
04:06:16,280 --> 04:06:18,920
Speaker 1: first University of Hawaii player that we've had selected? Are

4763
04:06:19,160 --> 04:06:21,440
Speaker 1: I know we had we had a quarterback selected that

4764
04:06:21,680 --> 04:06:24,040
Speaker 1: was in Hawaii. Oh, I thought you were gonna say

4765
04:06:24,040 --> 04:06:29,320
Speaker 1: Timmy Chang. Yeah, Marcus Mariota at the back. And they're

4766
04:06:29,360 --> 04:06:32,080
Speaker 1: showing it. It's great. They're showing a looks like to me,

4767
04:06:32,840 --> 04:06:36,720
Speaker 1: some our favorite City, London, England. Uh, maybe this is

4768
04:06:36,760 --> 04:06:38,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a pick. Let's see who is on the

4769
04:06:38,720 --> 04:06:40,600
Speaker 1: clock they're gonna make well, maybe not. They're just kind

4770
04:06:40,600 --> 04:06:42,560
Speaker 1: of bouncing around from draft to draft wherever all the

4771
04:06:42,640 --> 04:06:45,080
Speaker 1: cities are. I was hoping Lauren draper Wood was gonna

4772
04:06:45,080 --> 04:06:46,720
Speaker 1: make the pick. Yeah. I was hoping so too. That

4773
04:06:46,760 --> 04:06:48,400
Speaker 1: would have been very nice of her to see. If

4774
04:06:48,440 --> 04:06:51,160
Speaker 1: she's still listening, I shouted her out. Oh she she's listening.

4775
04:06:52,480 --> 04:06:54,800
Speaker 1: I am very These folks are not going to give

4776
04:06:54,920 --> 04:06:59,040
Speaker 1: up there. They are the toughest. They they they they

4777
04:06:59,480 --> 04:07:02,120
Speaker 1: love their football team, they love all the thing the NFL,

4778
04:07:02,360 --> 04:07:04,200
Speaker 1: and you know, shout out to all of them because

4779
04:07:04,240 --> 04:07:06,480
Speaker 1: we all love them as well, shout out out. So yeah,

4780
04:07:06,880 --> 04:07:09,560
Speaker 1: this will be a This is gonna be the Minnesota Vikings.

4781
04:07:09,640 --> 04:07:13,480
Speaker 1: His pick is from San Francisco through Miami. Uh, it's

4782
04:07:13,560 --> 04:07:17,560
Speaker 1: picked two thirty two. Uh. They were talking Dallas again

4783
04:07:17,640 --> 04:07:20,520
Speaker 1: once again at two thirty six. Uh, it looks like

4784
04:07:20,640 --> 04:07:24,160
Speaker 1: the board from what I've got left, I've got the

4785
04:07:24,280 --> 04:07:27,960
Speaker 1: whole kid, I think again, probably have him overrated. H

4786
04:07:28,080 --> 04:07:32,880
Speaker 1: as far as where hell Hull Hull, Hull, Mike Hall. Yeah,

4787
04:07:33,200 --> 04:07:35,520
Speaker 1: really tough. I talked to Sean Lee about this kid.

4788
04:07:36,040 --> 04:07:38,720
Speaker 1: I talked to this kid a lot. Okay, Yeah, so

4789
04:07:39,000 --> 04:07:42,720
Speaker 1: it's you know, he Sean's like he couldn't And Sean

4790
04:07:42,880 --> 04:07:44,680
Speaker 1: is very one of those guys when you visit with

4791
04:07:44,760 --> 04:07:47,440
Speaker 1: him about players or former players where he he's very

4792
04:07:47,520 --> 04:07:50,000
Speaker 1: honest about you know, he's talk he talks about this

4793
04:07:50,080 --> 04:07:53,680
Speaker 1: kid about football intelligence. You know, high motor guy, always

4794
04:07:53,720 --> 04:07:55,280
Speaker 1: around the football. I mean, you watch some of those

4795
04:07:55,320 --> 04:07:57,120
Speaker 1: games he played. This Sean Lee is just a fun

4796
04:07:57,160 --> 04:07:59,120
Speaker 1: guy to talk for. Yeah, but Sean Lee, Yeah, generally

4797
04:07:59,160 --> 04:08:02,240
Speaker 1: just talking football with him is great. And uh so

4798
04:08:02,760 --> 04:08:04,360
Speaker 1: you know he was telling me about this kid, goes, hey,

4799
04:08:04,400 --> 04:08:08,320
Speaker 1: this kid is really really the football intelligence. You know,

4800
04:08:08,480 --> 04:08:10,840
Speaker 1: you see him how he played, and he's right on tape.

4801
04:08:11,240 --> 04:08:14,240
Speaker 1: Uh He's he's one of those guys. And I had him.

4802
04:08:14,520 --> 04:08:17,160
Speaker 1: I had him in the fourth round obviously, and so

4803
04:08:17,560 --> 04:08:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to see somebody select him. But

4804
04:08:19,840 --> 04:08:21,880
Speaker 1: I think you keep an eye on him as a

4805
04:08:21,960 --> 04:08:23,720
Speaker 1: player if he doesn't get select and goes to a

4806
04:08:23,760 --> 04:08:27,120
Speaker 1: team one day, you know, watch this kid, uh Hall

4807
04:08:27,360 --> 04:08:31,880
Speaker 1: from Penn State. So um to Penn State. Come to

4808
04:08:32,000 --> 04:08:34,560
Speaker 1: Penn State. Remember that commercial from a while ago. But

4809
04:08:34,760 --> 04:08:38,520
Speaker 1: Joe was a deal is Joe Paternoore was like the

4810
04:08:38,600 --> 04:08:42,000
Speaker 1: Big ten, the Big Tig ten commercials. He's like, yeah,

4811
04:08:42,040 --> 04:08:45,680
Speaker 1: I love that commercial. Yeah. Okay, Berry player drafted. Yeah,

4812
04:08:45,800 --> 04:08:48,640
Speaker 1: linebacker Edmund Robins Evan, do you know much about emand Robinson?

4813
04:08:48,880 --> 04:08:52,600
Speaker 1: First Newberry player drafted since nineteen seventy four. Okay, here

4814
04:08:52,640 --> 04:08:57,160
Speaker 1: we go. We got room, we got war room. Jerry's back. See,

4815
04:08:57,200 --> 04:09:03,360
Speaker 1: everybody's over conjugated by the board, by the over two.

4816
04:09:03,400 --> 04:09:05,320
Speaker 1: As you look at the screen over to the right

4817
04:09:05,400 --> 04:09:07,800
Speaker 1: side of the screen where Stephen Jones and Tom Saskowski

4818
04:09:07,880 --> 04:09:10,560
Speaker 1: are standing, it looks like to me, you got Derek

4819
04:09:10,600 --> 04:09:13,960
Speaker 1: Dooley's now in the room. So Derek Dooley is bringing

4820
04:09:14,120 --> 04:09:17,160
Speaker 1: on my dude. Here we go, Derek Dooley, I guarantee

4821
04:09:17,200 --> 04:09:19,840
Speaker 1: you right now, he is trying to figure out between

4822
04:09:20,880 --> 04:09:24,800
Speaker 1: Lewis McBride, Whitehead Farmer. He wants one of those guys

4823
04:09:24,880 --> 04:09:27,440
Speaker 1: they're trying and maybe even go back to back here

4824
04:09:27,560 --> 04:09:30,760
Speaker 1: he's trying to he's trying to get Will McClay standing

4825
04:09:30,760 --> 04:09:32,960
Speaker 1: in the background, hands in pockets. He's kind of They're

4826
04:09:33,000 --> 04:09:34,880
Speaker 1: just like, all right, Derek, calm down, we're gonna get

4827
04:09:34,920 --> 04:09:38,040
Speaker 1: your receiver. Just don't kill us. Yeah. Tom Saskowski over

4828
04:09:38,080 --> 04:09:42,120
Speaker 1: there to the right as well. So again, Edmund Robinson,

4829
04:09:42,360 --> 04:09:44,360
Speaker 1: you talked about new bra I'm sorry I interrupt you there.

4830
04:09:44,400 --> 04:09:46,680
Speaker 1: When I saw the warm camps go in no a

4831
04:09:46,760 --> 04:09:48,760
Speaker 1: small school player and you just look at him. He

4832
04:09:49,120 --> 04:09:51,760
Speaker 1: just he's physically impressive six two and a half to

4833
04:09:52,000 --> 04:09:54,920
Speaker 1: forty five, thirty four inch arms, four six one forty

4834
04:09:54,960 --> 04:09:57,680
Speaker 1: yard dash, So I think he checks a lot of boxes,

4835
04:09:58,080 --> 04:10:02,600
Speaker 1: physically very range player, but he's still just scratching the

4836
04:10:02,640 --> 04:10:05,280
Speaker 1: surface of who he's going to be down the road. Um,

4837
04:10:05,560 --> 04:10:08,320
Speaker 1: Niedzo do a better job working off blocks, Yeah, using

4838
04:10:08,360 --> 04:10:10,960
Speaker 1: that funk that length to be functional length and using

4839
04:10:11,000 --> 04:10:13,760
Speaker 1: his hands well to get off blocks. Ya. Y'all got

4840
04:10:13,760 --> 04:10:18,400
Speaker 1: an opinion on de Andrew White Alabama Alabama. I thought,

4841
04:10:18,480 --> 04:10:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, with obviously with Amari Cooper getting so much attention,

4842
04:10:22,960 --> 04:10:24,520
Speaker 1: you're going to get some looks. And I thought the

4843
04:10:24,600 --> 04:10:27,200
Speaker 1: Andrew White did a nice job as the second receiver

4844
04:10:27,360 --> 04:10:31,240
Speaker 1: for UH for the Tide a player that you know,

4845
04:10:31,640 --> 04:10:33,800
Speaker 1: he ran better at his pro day than I thought

4846
04:10:33,880 --> 04:10:37,560
Speaker 1: he played. But he has a few more drops than

4847
04:10:37,560 --> 04:10:39,800
Speaker 1: you'd like to see, but his catches, his highlights are

4848
04:10:39,920 --> 04:10:42,920
Speaker 1: their highlights. I mean, he makes some impressive catches playing

4849
04:10:42,960 --> 04:10:45,920
Speaker 1: opposite opposite Cooper, so I gave him a draft Bill

4850
04:10:45,960 --> 04:10:49,080
Speaker 1: grade as a later round guy. Um and at this point,

4851
04:10:49,560 --> 04:10:52,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if they go that direction between between

4852
04:10:52,160 --> 04:10:54,560
Speaker 1: the five of us here that did mocks on on

4853
04:10:55,080 --> 04:10:59,280
Speaker 1: Thursday morning for DC dot com. Uh, Brian took Lucky

4854
04:11:00,200 --> 04:11:03,040
Speaker 1: y'all took Lucky Whitehead. Brian took one. I mean one

4855
04:11:03,080 --> 04:11:04,840
Speaker 1: took him to thirty six and one took him to

4856
04:11:05,000 --> 04:11:09,800
Speaker 1: forty three. I took George Farmer and Rob Phillips took

4857
04:11:09,840 --> 04:11:12,400
Speaker 1: the Andrew White So kind of like our odds of

4858
04:11:12,920 --> 04:11:14,480
Speaker 1: hitting on one of these guys. My pick of two

4859
04:11:14,600 --> 04:11:17,760
Speaker 1: forty four was the guy the Patriots took at sixty four.

4860
04:11:20,200 --> 04:11:24,160
Speaker 1: I had Damian Yeah, Nick had JJ Nelson coming off

4861
04:11:24,200 --> 04:11:26,480
Speaker 1: the board last, and he's been gone for a while now.

4862
04:11:27,640 --> 04:11:31,200
Speaker 1: Um See, the Buffalo Bills just took a wide receiver

4863
04:11:31,360 --> 04:11:33,440
Speaker 1: that Dane. I didn't even I didn't even realize Dane

4864
04:11:33,520 --> 04:11:37,120
Speaker 1: hit on Damian Wilson. Wait, you had him in the fifth.

4865
04:11:37,200 --> 04:11:39,880
Speaker 1: They took him in the fourth. Still, good job. I

4866
04:11:39,960 --> 04:11:44,960
Speaker 1: mean Bryan hit on Gregory Jazz Green, Dane hit on

4867
04:11:45,640 --> 04:11:51,440
Speaker 1: and Wilson. Yes, it was I giving you grief a

4868
04:11:51,440 --> 04:11:54,720
Speaker 1: little bit. I hit on deserve a little grief. Yeah,

4869
04:11:54,760 --> 04:11:56,480
Speaker 1: we all do. We all deserve a little grief. You know,

4870
04:11:56,520 --> 04:11:58,960
Speaker 1: when you're a draft expert, you gotta be a draft expert. Right,

4871
04:11:59,160 --> 04:12:02,520
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as Nick Nick Knicks mock draft

4872
04:12:02,680 --> 04:12:05,240
Speaker 1: is just oh so close. He had Shack Thompson, which

4873
04:12:05,240 --> 04:12:06,760
Speaker 1: could have been could have very well been the pick.

4874
04:12:06,880 --> 04:12:09,360
Speaker 1: Yet he had David Johnson, which I think would have

4875
04:12:09,400 --> 04:12:12,720
Speaker 1: been in consideration if he had lasted. And um and

4876
04:12:12,880 --> 04:12:15,640
Speaker 1: Frank Clark, who obviously the Seahawks took him a lot

4877
04:12:15,720 --> 04:12:17,960
Speaker 1: higher than the Cowboys might have. Yeah. Well, we talked

4878
04:12:17,960 --> 04:12:20,440
Speaker 1: about the receivers too, and now and and oh and

4879
04:12:20,560 --> 04:12:22,920
Speaker 1: and and Rob excuse me, Rob Phillips hit on Byron

4880
04:12:23,040 --> 04:12:25,080
Speaker 1: Jones that on that on the nail with the number one,

4881
04:12:25,360 --> 04:12:26,800
Speaker 1: and that's what you gotta do. Gott hit him that

4882
04:12:26,880 --> 04:12:30,720
Speaker 1: first one. Okay. We talked about Buffalo took Uh took

4883
04:12:30,840 --> 04:12:37,640
Speaker 1: Desmond Lewis Uh, the wide receiver from Central Arkansas. Great field,

4884
04:12:37,680 --> 04:12:40,160
Speaker 1: by the way, that was the guy. That's yeah, that's

4885
04:12:40,160 --> 04:12:42,200
Speaker 1: the guy with They had the field. It has every

4886
04:12:42,280 --> 04:12:44,840
Speaker 1: five yards, it's a purple a purple or a guy.

4887
04:12:44,880 --> 04:12:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really really make me nauseous. It's it

4888
04:12:48,000 --> 04:12:49,960
Speaker 1: can It's not as bad as the red turf up

4889
04:12:49,960 --> 04:12:52,480
Speaker 1: at East. How do they allow that? Yeah? Or the

4890
04:12:52,720 --> 04:12:55,760
Speaker 1: blue turft Uh, that's yeah, the blue is at least

4891
04:12:55,800 --> 04:12:57,880
Speaker 1: the blue is kind of iconic. Desmond Lewis is the

4892
04:12:57,960 --> 04:13:00,520
Speaker 1: perfect seventh round pick. Yeah, I think, guy, you thought

4893
04:13:00,560 --> 04:13:02,960
Speaker 1: maybe in the middle rounds, he's available in the seventh

4894
04:13:03,040 --> 04:13:06,280
Speaker 1: take a chance on the player. The film's not bad,

4895
04:13:06,520 --> 04:13:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, exactly, and you love you look at

4896
04:13:09,560 --> 04:13:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean six four, two fifteen. He's built well, yeah,

4897
04:13:12,160 --> 04:13:14,320
Speaker 1: has some room to even get bigger and fill out.

4898
04:13:15,320 --> 04:13:18,200
Speaker 1: The production is there at Central Arkansas he finished with

4899
04:13:18,240 --> 04:13:21,520
Speaker 1: almost two hundred catches. He was there starting ex receiver

4900
04:13:21,880 --> 04:13:24,560
Speaker 1: and a guy that needs him polish. But at the

4901
04:13:24,640 --> 04:13:28,080
Speaker 1: same time, the foundation traits are there, and so we

4902
04:13:28,160 --> 04:13:31,000
Speaker 1: talk about the traits. It's there with him. Love is

4903
04:13:31,040 --> 04:13:32,840
Speaker 1: catching radius. I think that's a big part of his

4904
04:13:32,960 --> 04:13:35,640
Speaker 1: game and something that will help him develop into something

4905
04:13:35,760 --> 04:13:38,640
Speaker 1: more than just a lowly seventh round pick. Well, the

4906
04:13:38,680 --> 04:13:41,520
Speaker 1: Houston Texans are currently on the clock at two thirty five,

4907
04:13:41,640 --> 04:13:45,160
Speaker 1: about a minute left with their selection, you know, and

4908
04:13:45,240 --> 04:13:48,600
Speaker 1: then Dallas will go on the clock. They're having this

4909
04:13:48,720 --> 04:13:51,920
Speaker 1: discussion right now when you have picks that are pretty

4910
04:13:52,000 --> 04:13:54,440
Speaker 1: close to each other, which direction, who is most Like

4911
04:13:54,560 --> 04:13:57,280
Speaker 1: I've been in these conversations before, who is the guy

4912
04:13:57,360 --> 04:14:00,720
Speaker 1: that's most likely to be there? And they if they could,

4913
04:14:00,760 --> 04:14:02,560
Speaker 1: if they could stretch it to that last pick. So

4914
04:14:02,640 --> 04:14:05,160
Speaker 1: they're trying to agree here who they need to take

4915
04:14:05,320 --> 04:14:07,840
Speaker 1: first and then who they need to take second. Derek

4916
04:14:07,920 --> 04:14:10,600
Speaker 1: Dooley has, in fact sitting down at the table. I

4917
04:14:10,720 --> 04:14:13,320
Speaker 1: think I think it's gonna be farmer. I'm only saying

4918
04:14:13,360 --> 04:14:15,080
Speaker 1: that because I mocked him and I wanted to happen.

4919
04:14:15,240 --> 04:14:19,320
Speaker 1: But I just just got a question about um Nick Marshall,

4920
04:14:19,600 --> 04:14:23,720
Speaker 1: the Auburn quarterback, that I'm surprised that he is still available.

4921
04:14:23,720 --> 04:14:26,360
Speaker 1: We talk about the traits, you know, seventh round is

4922
04:14:26,360 --> 04:14:28,840
Speaker 1: it bad and the senior ball playing some corner players

4923
04:14:28,880 --> 04:14:30,840
Speaker 1: has no idea what he's doing. You threw them out there.

4924
04:14:30,880 --> 04:14:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's what we're talking about in

4925
04:14:32,640 --> 04:14:35,520
Speaker 1: the seventh round, the developmental type that maybe you take

4926
04:14:35,560 --> 04:14:39,880
Speaker 1: a chance on. You know, it's low risk, possible, high reward. Yeah,

4927
04:14:40,080 --> 04:14:43,480
Speaker 1: surprise he's still available. Yeah, that's that that is as

4928
04:14:43,520 --> 04:14:46,160
Speaker 1: a case, you're absolutely right about the now Matt. Now

4929
04:14:46,240 --> 04:14:50,040
Speaker 1: Matt has joined the Fray. So now you're wait a second, No, no,

4930
04:14:50,280 --> 04:14:53,680
Speaker 1: stop with the receiver talk get more back. Okay the Cowboys,

4931
04:14:53,760 --> 04:14:56,400
Speaker 1: will you get out of here? The Cowboys are officially

4932
04:14:56,680 --> 04:14:59,960
Speaker 1: on the Clyde Houston made their selection, yet I don't

4933
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:02,120
Speaker 1: don't see a name. Yeah, I think we need to

4934
04:15:02,200 --> 04:15:05,560
Speaker 1: wait Houston. It might be out on the Twitter sphere somewhere. Yeah,

4935
04:15:05,760 --> 04:15:08,800
Speaker 1: you need to figure this out. And but if Houston

4936
04:15:08,880 --> 04:15:10,920
Speaker 1: in factors make it their pick, that would put Dallas

4937
04:15:11,000 --> 04:15:13,120
Speaker 1: on the clock. Okay, the picks in. So if the

4938
04:15:13,200 --> 04:15:16,040
Speaker 1: picks in, then Dallas will be on the clock. Uh.

4939
04:15:16,160 --> 04:15:21,040
Speaker 1: And let's see who the Houston Texans in fact grabbed. Okay,

4940
04:15:21,160 --> 04:15:23,920
Speaker 1: it looks like they're gonna take Kenny Hilliard are running

4941
04:15:23,960 --> 04:15:29,280
Speaker 1: back from bump. There we go. Surprise you went ahead

4942
04:15:29,280 --> 04:15:31,680
Speaker 1: of John Nelson in Liverpool's happy too, because he likes

4943
04:15:31,680 --> 04:15:34,640
Speaker 1: when LSU players get drafted as well. I don't know.

4944
04:15:34,720 --> 04:15:37,520
Speaker 1: I think I like. I think Kenny's got more upside

4945
04:15:37,520 --> 04:15:39,760
Speaker 1: than McGee. Although I could see McGee being a really

4946
04:15:39,800 --> 04:15:42,040
Speaker 1: good special teams player, I can't see that they were

4947
04:15:42,040 --> 04:15:45,040
Speaker 1: both guys Dallas. I'm pretty surprise either one of the

4948
04:15:45,280 --> 04:15:46,840
Speaker 1: Dallas is now on the clock. Boys, you got a

4949
04:15:46,880 --> 04:15:49,360
Speaker 1: selection here you want to talk about I already threw

4950
04:15:49,480 --> 04:15:52,080
Speaker 1: my hat in the ring for Georgie. Okay, this is

4951
04:15:52,120 --> 04:15:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna be picked two thirty six. This is the first

4952
04:15:54,960 --> 04:15:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean we got We have two position coaches in

4953
04:15:57,240 --> 04:15:59,400
Speaker 1: the rooms. So you got a linebacker coach and a

4954
04:15:59,480 --> 04:16:03,880
Speaker 1: receivers coach talking Lucky Whitehead, I mean, okay, Thompson scouts.

4955
04:16:03,920 --> 04:16:06,400
Speaker 1: He's gone onto the phone, so let's see what we've

4956
04:16:06,480 --> 04:16:09,240
Speaker 1: got here. Build a creaker in the back. He's a

4957
04:16:09,320 --> 04:16:12,040
Speaker 1: scout that there's working on free agents. You could tell

4958
04:16:12,120 --> 04:16:14,080
Speaker 1: that list that he has in hand. They're working on.

4959
04:16:14,200 --> 04:16:16,680
Speaker 1: They're trying to make sure that they and the phone

4960
04:16:16,720 --> 04:16:18,600
Speaker 1: goes across to Jerry Jones. But like I said, Billy

4961
04:16:18,680 --> 04:16:22,240
Speaker 1: the craker as a scout and he's working with one

4962
04:16:22,280 --> 04:16:24,200
Speaker 1: of the coaches. The scouts are signed to one of

4963
04:16:24,240 --> 04:16:27,440
Speaker 1: the coaches to work in free agency to help recruit

4964
04:16:28,040 --> 04:16:31,320
Speaker 1: these players. So uh, let's see who in fact that

4965
04:16:31,480 --> 04:16:35,480
Speaker 1: they do select here. Uh, you know they could they

4966
04:16:35,800 --> 04:16:38,600
Speaker 1: they've gone defense the whole time. I mean defense, what

4967
04:16:38,720 --> 04:16:42,120
Speaker 1: I I mean we're talking we're quibbling here over seventh

4968
04:16:42,200 --> 04:16:45,600
Speaker 1: round picks. But go get this. Go get your kick returner, guy,

4969
04:16:45,680 --> 04:16:47,760
Speaker 1: go get your receiver. Well, they might, like I say,

4970
04:16:47,800 --> 04:16:50,280
Speaker 1: it might be a situation where they go one over

4971
04:16:50,400 --> 04:16:51,920
Speaker 1: the up. I mean they no, no, yeah, I mean

4972
04:16:51,960 --> 04:16:54,120
Speaker 1: you got trying to figure out but they're trying to

4973
04:16:54,160 --> 04:16:56,600
Speaker 1: figure out where there's more likely to last. Yeah, who's

4974
04:16:56,640 --> 04:16:59,200
Speaker 1: more likely to last? So that with the with the

4975
04:16:59,280 --> 04:17:02,040
Speaker 1: picks back to act like that, Uh, you know you

4976
04:17:02,120 --> 04:17:04,320
Speaker 1: need to you need to figure this out and and

4977
04:17:04,440 --> 04:17:07,000
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, which guy's more likely to be there

4978
04:17:07,520 --> 04:17:10,960
Speaker 1: than than not? So shout out Jason Garrett for rocking

4979
04:17:11,040 --> 04:17:13,680
Speaker 1: a code and tie all the way through this marathon. Brian,

4980
04:17:13,760 --> 04:17:15,440
Speaker 1: you're wearing a tie. Good for you. Yeah, well, I've

4981
04:17:15,480 --> 04:17:17,480
Speaker 1: got to do some TV stuff. Okay, the picks in

4982
04:17:17,600 --> 04:17:20,280
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, and let's see who in fact,

4983
04:17:20,640 --> 04:17:25,840
Speaker 1: oh oh, we have talked about. Yeah, the linebacker from

4984
04:17:25,880 --> 04:17:31,120
Speaker 1: my from Wyoming is in fact the selection here. All right,

4985
04:17:31,560 --> 04:17:35,480
Speaker 1: help me on this name Dane. It rhymes with gotcha. Okay,

4986
04:17:35,600 --> 04:17:43,520
Speaker 1: so that doesn't help much, doesn't Yeah? Yeah, in silent,

4987
04:17:43,720 --> 04:17:45,520
Speaker 1: I believe on this day because you got all the things.

4988
04:17:45,560 --> 04:17:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's Mark Mark Zacha. Yeah. Well, well

4989
04:17:50,200 --> 04:17:52,280
Speaker 1: it rhymes with gotcha. I know that. Yeah, well, I

4990
04:17:52,360 --> 04:17:54,280
Speaker 1: know you do all your stuff for your for your

4991
04:17:54,320 --> 04:17:56,880
Speaker 1: book and stuff like that. So right, Well, and he

4992
04:17:57,040 --> 04:17:59,320
Speaker 1: was a player that I gave a p F A

4993
04:17:59,440 --> 04:18:04,360
Speaker 1: grade to. Uh. He's athletic towards ACL. I got the

4994
04:18:04,400 --> 04:18:10,840
Speaker 1: pronunciation for us okayza. That sounds right in Zachai. So

4995
04:18:10,960 --> 04:18:14,960
Speaker 1: he towards ACL in twenty fourteen or twenty twenty fourteen. Yeah,

4996
04:18:15,440 --> 04:18:17,360
Speaker 1: San vers San Jose State, And I'm looking over my

4997
04:18:17,440 --> 04:18:21,920
Speaker 1: notes on the player against Michigan State. Aggressively takes on blocks.

4998
04:18:21,960 --> 04:18:25,360
Speaker 1: A good athlete with range speed in pursuit, too often

4999
04:18:25,360 --> 04:18:27,720
Speaker 1: find himselfs stuck in the middle of the field, worry

5000
04:18:27,720 --> 04:18:30,920
Speaker 1: about his anticipation, takes himself out of some plays. Uh

5001
04:18:31,080 --> 04:18:34,040
Speaker 1: struggles to see every blocker, which impedes him in the

5002
04:18:34,080 --> 04:18:37,200
Speaker 1: middle of the field. Needs to improve his spatial awareness. Um.

5003
04:18:37,400 --> 04:18:40,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes he looks like he's playing two in touch. But

5004
04:18:40,720 --> 04:18:42,760
Speaker 1: an overall a very good athlete, and I think that's

5005
04:18:42,840 --> 04:18:45,600
Speaker 1: why he was drafted here and why you feel good

5006
04:18:45,640 --> 04:18:47,680
Speaker 1: about him on special teams. I felt like, though, that

5007
04:18:47,800 --> 04:18:49,640
Speaker 1: this guy could flow to the ball. I thought he

5008
04:18:49,680 --> 04:18:52,080
Speaker 1: can avoid blocks, play down hill quickly, nose for the ball,

5009
04:18:52,200 --> 04:18:54,200
Speaker 1: needs to be on the move. Again, there's times when

5010
04:18:54,240 --> 04:18:56,600
Speaker 1: he got hooked up. This guy runs four five six,

5011
04:18:57,000 --> 04:18:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, but he's six two athlete. Yea, yeah, he's

5012
04:18:59,200 --> 04:19:01,520
Speaker 1: he's six two, two hundred and thirty two pounds after

5013
04:19:01,640 --> 04:19:04,200
Speaker 1: to chase his outside place with some balance when going

5014
04:19:04,320 --> 04:19:06,720
Speaker 1: down the line. Trouble when he gets hooked up. I

5015
04:19:06,800 --> 04:19:09,720
Speaker 1: think Dane saw that as well. He could change the direction,

5016
04:19:09,840 --> 04:19:11,520
Speaker 1: take the back out of the backfield. So that's some

5017
04:19:11,560 --> 04:19:13,960
Speaker 1: of the coverage things I was able to see. Puts

5018
04:19:14,040 --> 04:19:16,000
Speaker 1: himself in position to cover. I think one time I

5019
04:19:16,120 --> 04:19:17,920
Speaker 1: ran there was a wheel route that went up the

5020
04:19:17,960 --> 04:19:19,800
Speaker 1: sidelines and he was able to run with This guy.

5021
04:19:19,880 --> 04:19:22,440
Speaker 1: Watched the Michigan State game in the Oregon game, so

5022
04:19:22,720 --> 04:19:24,640
Speaker 1: I watched two teams that have guy, I mean the

5023
04:19:24,720 --> 04:19:27,680
Speaker 1: guys that can get especially Oregon going up field. I said,

5024
04:19:27,680 --> 04:19:29,800
Speaker 1: I like the way he flies to the ball, plays

5025
04:19:29,840 --> 04:19:31,880
Speaker 1: with pace and quickness. It could see him being a

5026
04:19:31,960 --> 04:19:35,120
Speaker 1: core special teamer and a backup will linebacker, was what

5027
04:19:35,240 --> 04:19:38,160
Speaker 1: I thought about this guy. Basachi was in there, so yeah,

5028
04:19:38,400 --> 04:19:43,760
Speaker 1: this is what they're doing in Zacha right in Zacha,

5029
04:19:44,000 --> 04:19:48,480
Speaker 1: is what this mark in Zacha linebacker from Wyoming my

5030
04:19:48,640 --> 04:19:52,280
Speaker 1: Sky report. Again, Dane had his as well. Dane's right.

5031
04:19:52,360 --> 04:19:54,800
Speaker 1: He had an ACL tear in the seventh game of

5032
04:19:54,880 --> 04:19:58,080
Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen se San Jose. Yeah, when we when

5033
04:19:58,320 --> 04:20:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean and again we know too is the same.

5034
04:20:00,680 --> 04:20:03,440
Speaker 1: But when when do we make that timetable? Then? Yeah,

5035
04:20:03,520 --> 04:20:05,520
Speaker 1: that's a question that needs to be asked. It doesn't

5036
04:20:05,520 --> 04:20:07,600
Speaker 1: sound like a guy who can take the field. Yeah,

5037
04:20:07,800 --> 04:20:09,360
Speaker 1: well maybe if we if we get a chance to

5038
04:20:09,400 --> 04:20:11,280
Speaker 1: interview him here and then you know, and and and

5039
04:20:12,240 --> 04:20:15,920
Speaker 1: uh and see how that is uh coming forward. But

5040
04:20:16,280 --> 04:20:19,120
Speaker 1: now kay, they've got another pick uh coming up here.

5041
04:20:19,440 --> 04:20:21,240
Speaker 1: They took with us sounded what I feel like as

5042
04:20:21,280 --> 04:20:24,520
Speaker 1: a backup will linebacker and special teams guy. Again, you're

5043
04:20:24,520 --> 04:20:27,160
Speaker 1: looking for traits. Dany talks about a guy that can run.

5044
04:20:27,320 --> 04:20:31,240
Speaker 1: I see that their activity this this afternoon does not

5045
04:20:31,400 --> 04:20:34,320
Speaker 1: make you feel good for Cameron Lawrence, does it. No,

5046
04:20:34,720 --> 04:20:37,760
Speaker 1: it really hasn't. It really hasn't. So you know, he

5047
04:20:37,960 --> 04:20:39,440
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, he was kind of that guy.

5048
04:20:39,560 --> 04:20:42,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's your he's your last ditch depth at

5049
04:20:42,400 --> 04:20:45,720
Speaker 1: linebacker and all obviously a special teams guy. Uh. And

5050
04:20:45,880 --> 04:20:49,120
Speaker 1: they have drafted two guys that kind of fit that description. Today,

5051
04:20:49,240 --> 04:20:51,880
Speaker 1: so many linebackers. Oh my gosh, I think there's fourteen

5052
04:20:51,960 --> 04:20:53,880
Speaker 1: on the roster now, it's it's it's going to be

5053
04:20:53,960 --> 04:20:56,960
Speaker 1: a free for all when we get out to Hawksnard. Well,

5054
04:20:57,040 --> 04:20:59,480
Speaker 1: that's you know, it's again it's about now trying to

5055
04:20:59,560 --> 04:21:01,760
Speaker 1: help your special teams out and this this type of

5056
04:21:01,800 --> 04:21:04,360
Speaker 1: pick is a value pick because he wasn't even able

5057
04:21:04,400 --> 04:21:07,520
Speaker 1: to work out prior to the draft, and so you're

5058
04:21:07,600 --> 04:21:10,840
Speaker 1: going based off a tape. Did we mock him at

5059
04:21:10,920 --> 04:21:12,880
Speaker 1: one point when they're like the second mock? I think

5060
04:21:13,200 --> 04:21:16,480
Speaker 1: I think I hadn't. Think we've definitely talked about him. Yeah,

5061
04:21:17,240 --> 04:21:21,720
Speaker 1: they're showing some highlights right now. He can play. He's rangy.

5062
04:21:21,760 --> 04:21:23,640
Speaker 1: You see him play all over the field. I think

5063
04:21:23,680 --> 04:21:26,640
Speaker 1: he does aggressively take on blocks, but I do worry

5064
04:21:26,680 --> 04:21:29,640
Speaker 1: about him necessarily seeing the blocks. I thought he had

5065
04:21:29,680 --> 04:21:31,160
Speaker 1: to go on the move. I like what you're talking

5066
04:21:31,200 --> 04:21:33,440
Speaker 1: about it again. Yeah, when you're talking about, you know,

5067
04:21:33,600 --> 04:21:35,600
Speaker 1: being on being on the move and all that, I

5068
04:21:36,440 --> 04:21:39,040
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. I do agree. I

5069
04:21:39,160 --> 04:21:41,480
Speaker 1: think that you know, you you talk about taking on

5070
04:21:41,600 --> 04:21:44,440
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you would have told me I

5071
04:21:44,520 --> 04:21:47,960
Speaker 1: didn't even really Okay, uh in Za he's reading this

5072
04:21:48,040 --> 04:21:50,840
Speaker 1: on Twitter. He's also from Germany. Yes, okay, okay, so

5073
04:21:51,080 --> 04:21:54,440
Speaker 1: it's very nice, interesting on several levels. Okay. The Cincinnati Bengals,

5074
04:21:54,520 --> 04:21:57,000
Speaker 1: they just at two twenty or two two thirty eight.

5075
04:21:57,400 --> 04:22:01,880
Speaker 1: They took West Virginia wide receiver Mario Alford. We talked

5076
04:22:01,880 --> 04:22:05,840
Speaker 1: about him earlier, had more touchdowns this year, thank Kevin White.

5077
04:22:06,000 --> 04:22:09,320
Speaker 1: A little overshadowed by White, but he can fly. He

5078
04:22:09,600 --> 04:22:12,520
Speaker 1: can be a deep threat. Uh, smaller than you'd want.

5079
04:22:12,720 --> 04:22:16,160
Speaker 1: The catching radius is smaller, but uh, you got to

5080
04:22:16,160 --> 04:22:18,600
Speaker 1: catch him first. And so with Alford, I think you

5081
04:22:18,640 --> 04:22:21,320
Speaker 1: have a pretty good player. Bengals got excellent value there.

5082
04:22:22,400 --> 04:22:25,520
Speaker 1: Make more picks before Dallas. Dallas is down. Yeah, we're two.

5083
04:22:25,800 --> 04:22:29,520
Speaker 1: We're at two thirty nine here Pittsburgh Dallas is sitting

5084
04:22:29,560 --> 04:22:32,920
Speaker 1: at two forty three. So again, how how did they

5085
04:22:32,920 --> 04:22:35,720
Speaker 1: how they played this board? Had they gone they said, Okay,

5086
04:22:35,760 --> 04:22:37,680
Speaker 1: who's the guy that's most likely to be there, who's

5087
04:22:37,680 --> 04:22:40,080
Speaker 1: the guy that's most likely not to be there? I

5088
04:22:40,160 --> 04:22:44,680
Speaker 1: evidently thought that Mark Zacha would be in Zach's gonna

5089
04:22:44,680 --> 04:22:47,920
Speaker 1: be gonna drill this into you. I know Inzaza would

5090
04:22:47,920 --> 04:22:50,680
Speaker 1: be would be the guy. So you know that there's

5091
04:22:50,720 --> 04:22:53,200
Speaker 1: some interesting linebacker name still on the board with guys

5092
04:22:53,240 --> 04:22:56,320
Speaker 1: like Mike Hole and Taiwan Jones. Is he still out

5093
04:22:56,320 --> 04:22:58,720
Speaker 1: there in Michigan? Stay? Yeah, Tiwan Jones, I get you say,

5094
04:22:58,760 --> 04:23:02,040
Speaker 1: and then you trail. We talked about trail. I think

5095
04:23:02,040 --> 04:23:04,200
Speaker 1: the way that Derek well, Derek Dooley is now out

5096
04:23:04,280 --> 04:23:07,360
Speaker 1: of the room as actually Derek on second thought, please

5097
04:23:07,520 --> 04:23:10,040
Speaker 1: please leave. Yeah, we don't need you here. There's not

5098
04:23:10,200 --> 04:23:12,480
Speaker 1: going to be a receiver pick. Yeah, he could still

5099
04:23:12,520 --> 04:23:14,040
Speaker 1: be there. For all we know, we can really only

5100
04:23:14,080 --> 04:23:16,280
Speaker 1: see so much of the world. I wouldn't be surprised though,

5101
04:23:16,360 --> 04:23:18,600
Speaker 1: if this is okay, oh fine, here we go. Uh

5102
04:23:20,280 --> 04:23:22,920
Speaker 1: with the Steelers on the clock, let's see the picks

5103
04:23:22,960 --> 04:23:27,600
Speaker 1: in and I think that let's see who it's gonna

5104
04:23:27,640 --> 04:23:29,800
Speaker 1: be on the phone here. Yeah, we're on the phone. Yeah,

5105
04:23:29,840 --> 04:23:33,600
Speaker 1: exactly what Adam Kaplan is reporting that in Zacha had

5106
04:23:33,600 --> 04:23:36,320
Speaker 1: to work out last week, so he was able to

5107
04:23:36,400 --> 04:23:39,120
Speaker 1: work out draft right four five to forty yard dashed

5108
04:23:39,120 --> 04:23:42,920
Speaker 1: to eleven broad jump. So good a player where the

5109
04:23:43,000 --> 04:23:46,080
Speaker 1: measurables look good, the testing looks good. Guess I mean

5110
04:23:46,160 --> 04:23:48,320
Speaker 1: if he tour his ACL in October. That means it's

5111
04:23:48,360 --> 04:23:50,960
Speaker 1: been about seven months, which I mean you're talking about

5112
04:23:50,960 --> 04:23:54,120
Speaker 1: eight to nine for an ACL. So who knows. All Right,

5113
04:23:54,240 --> 04:23:58,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers have selected Drout Holloman, the man who I

5114
04:23:58,280 --> 04:24:00,920
Speaker 1: like to call the coward of this draft, and I think,

5115
04:24:00,960 --> 04:24:03,160
Speaker 1: but he's an NFL player now, so I shouldn't probably

5116
04:24:03,200 --> 04:24:07,360
Speaker 1: call him that anymore. Pittsburgh Pittsburgh did the NFL was

5117
04:24:07,400 --> 04:24:09,440
Speaker 1: too hand touched. He would be an all pro. Yeah,

5118
04:24:09,440 --> 04:24:12,000
Speaker 1: you know that. That's something really If you take one

5119
04:24:12,080 --> 04:24:14,560
Speaker 1: thing away from our coverage this weekend, it's that Brian

5120
04:24:14,640 --> 04:24:18,320
Speaker 1: and Dane don't like Holloman. Well, it's allergic to tackling,

5121
04:24:18,480 --> 04:24:20,640
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Though. The problem, the problem I

5122
04:24:20,800 --> 04:24:24,400
Speaker 1: run into is initially this guy started off his first round.

5123
04:24:24,440 --> 04:24:26,040
Speaker 1: Everybody had him in the first round, had him if

5124
04:24:26,080 --> 04:24:28,080
Speaker 1: they saw the interception. Yeah, And that's what I'm saying.

5125
04:24:28,160 --> 04:24:30,640
Speaker 1: When you it's more than just going and being in

5126
04:24:30,680 --> 04:24:32,920
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time catching the tip ball.

5127
04:24:33,360 --> 04:24:37,760
Speaker 1: It's much more than that. This kid turned down tackles. Hey,

5128
04:24:37,920 --> 04:24:40,160
Speaker 1: and it made a business decision. How many picks did

5129
04:24:40,160 --> 04:24:42,520
Speaker 1: he have? Fourteen? Yeah, And let's so that everybody's on

5130
04:24:42,560 --> 04:24:44,840
Speaker 1: the phone here in the war room. I wonder going on. Yeah,

5131
04:24:44,920 --> 04:24:47,160
Speaker 1: they're all talking to guys that wonder if somebody's trying

5132
04:24:47,160 --> 04:24:52,200
Speaker 1: to give again next year's picks to be to for

5133
04:24:52,440 --> 04:24:55,000
Speaker 1: this for their pick. They're they're now laughing, They're gonna

5134
04:24:55,000 --> 04:24:57,040
Speaker 1: stand in there and make picks. You guys are just

5135
04:24:57,200 --> 04:24:59,400
Speaker 1: flipping them stuff just to have some fun here. But

5136
04:25:00,280 --> 04:25:03,760
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions are now on the clock. Uh. And

5137
04:25:03,880 --> 04:25:07,840
Speaker 1: then and then you've got the Arizona Cardinals, the Carolina Panthers,

5138
04:25:07,920 --> 04:25:12,560
Speaker 1: and then your Dallas Cowboys. Uh, to finish out this round.

5139
04:25:12,760 --> 04:25:14,480
Speaker 1: Are just going to finish out the round with the Cowboys.

5140
04:25:14,480 --> 04:25:16,480
Speaker 1: And then it becomes we still got a lot of picks. Yeah,

5141
04:25:16,480 --> 04:25:18,800
Speaker 1: we got When the Cowboys make their pick, I'm probably

5142
04:25:18,840 --> 04:25:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna go help everybody. Well, Dana and I will, guys

5143
04:25:21,960 --> 04:25:23,640
Speaker 1: finish it out. We'll put this thing to bed and

5144
04:25:24,000 --> 04:25:25,840
Speaker 1: kind of do all those things that we have to do.

5145
04:25:26,080 --> 04:25:30,440
Speaker 1: So um or actually, do we know if Zacho or

5146
04:25:30,520 --> 04:25:32,120
Speaker 1: the other like, are we getting them on the air.

5147
04:25:32,760 --> 04:25:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I don't get that impression. Okay, okay, yeah,

5148
04:25:38,240 --> 04:25:40,480
Speaker 1: is he coming to us after that? He's on the

5149
04:25:40,520 --> 04:25:44,320
Speaker 1: air right now. Oh, okay, Mark, Mark, Yeah, Hey, how's

5150
04:25:44,320 --> 04:25:47,080
Speaker 1: it going? All right? That'll work? Hey, Mark, This Brian

5151
04:25:47,160 --> 04:25:52,000
Speaker 1: broad Us, Dame Burglar, and David Hellman. Welcome to uh

5152
04:25:52,080 --> 04:25:54,080
Speaker 1: we we're covering the draft here. It's been kind of

5153
04:25:54,160 --> 04:25:56,520
Speaker 1: like a chaotic right now here at the Valley Ranch.

5154
04:25:56,600 --> 04:26:00,600
Speaker 1: But congratulations on your selection to the day else cow Wis.

5155
04:26:00,800 --> 04:26:03,840
Speaker 1: You've got to be really excited about the opportunity, uh

5156
04:26:04,120 --> 04:26:06,240
Speaker 1: to come here and to and to play in a

5157
04:26:06,400 --> 04:26:09,720
Speaker 1: scheme that really fits the type of player you were

5158
04:26:09,880 --> 04:26:13,680
Speaker 1: at at Wyoming. Yeah, sir, Yeah, definitely. First of all,

5159
04:26:13,720 --> 04:26:17,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, thanks uh having me on. Uh Yeah,

5160
04:26:17,880 --> 04:26:20,480
Speaker 1: super excited. I think that's a great fit for me.

5161
04:26:20,600 --> 04:26:24,320
Speaker 1: Like you said, yeah, I can't wait to go to work. Mark,

5162
04:26:24,360 --> 04:26:26,480
Speaker 1: I gotta hit you with a hard hitting question here

5163
04:26:26,600 --> 04:26:29,400
Speaker 1: right off the bat. Does how does a guy from

5164
04:26:29,440 --> 04:26:33,600
Speaker 1: Germany wind up in Laramie, Wyoming. I'm curious? I see,

5165
04:26:33,760 --> 04:26:36,800
Speaker 1: UH started playing over in Germany. I only came over

5166
04:26:36,920 --> 04:26:39,440
Speaker 1: here four years ago. So I started playing call um

5167
04:26:40,360 --> 04:26:43,640
Speaker 1: football in America only four years ago. So um I

5168
04:26:43,760 --> 04:26:46,760
Speaker 1: got the connection going with a former teammate who also

5169
04:26:47,120 --> 04:26:49,760
Speaker 1: he was from Germany. He played at Wyoming through a

5170
04:26:49,840 --> 04:26:52,680
Speaker 1: former culture his and yeah, he got the connection going

5171
04:26:52,720 --> 04:26:56,640
Speaker 1: with the coaches for me. Showed him my tape and everything,

5172
04:26:56,720 --> 04:26:59,000
Speaker 1: and they really like what they saw. And yeah, I

5173
04:26:59,080 --> 04:27:04,040
Speaker 1: took that opportunity. And Mark, obviously it's tough to suffer

5174
04:27:04,120 --> 04:27:07,200
Speaker 1: an injury like you did your senior year. Talk about uh,

5175
04:27:07,360 --> 04:27:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, overcoming that obstacle and you know, doing enough

5176
04:27:11,080 --> 04:27:15,120
Speaker 1: during your your the pre draft process to convince teams

5177
04:27:15,160 --> 04:27:18,520
Speaker 1: that you know you're worth taking chance on. Um. You know,

5178
04:27:18,920 --> 04:27:22,560
Speaker 1: obviously it was a tough situation, you know, but I

5179
04:27:22,640 --> 04:27:25,960
Speaker 1: did have a like starting support system, you know, Karent

5180
04:27:26,000 --> 04:27:27,760
Speaker 1: taught me all, you know, as well as my girlfriend,

5181
04:27:27,840 --> 04:27:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, the team, you know, a team as well.

5182
04:27:30,560 --> 04:27:34,680
Speaker 1: So um, it was definitely, uh, very disappointed when it happened,

5183
04:27:34,720 --> 04:27:37,480
Speaker 1: but you know I do, like you know, with the

5184
04:27:37,560 --> 04:27:41,080
Speaker 1: help of them. Um, I fought through that adversity, you know,

5185
04:27:41,280 --> 04:27:44,200
Speaker 1: and you know came back, uh you know, fairly ahead

5186
04:27:44,200 --> 04:27:46,480
Speaker 1: of schedule, and you know, like you said, to do

5187
04:27:46,680 --> 04:27:50,200
Speaker 1: enough to get picked up at accomplice, Mark, you came.

5188
04:27:50,400 --> 04:27:52,440
Speaker 1: You're one of the visits that came to Doubt, So

5189
04:27:52,520 --> 04:27:54,480
Speaker 1: you got to come here and see the coaches and

5190
04:27:54,560 --> 04:27:57,560
Speaker 1: all that meat. Can you talk about the you know,

5191
04:27:58,000 --> 04:28:01,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity to sit down with Matt even Flus and

5192
04:28:01,120 --> 04:28:03,480
Speaker 1: then with Rod and Marnelli and all them, and and

5193
04:28:04,000 --> 04:28:06,840
Speaker 1: just some of the discussions that they had with you

5194
04:28:07,000 --> 04:28:09,840
Speaker 1: and how they see your role you know now that

5195
04:28:09,920 --> 04:28:12,880
Speaker 1: you're you're with the Dallas Cowboys. I mean the first

5196
04:28:12,920 --> 04:28:15,000
Speaker 1: of all, you know, Dallas is a great organization, you know,

5197
04:28:15,720 --> 04:28:19,080
Speaker 1: and so I had great conversation with like from Jerry Jones,

5198
04:28:20,240 --> 04:28:22,800
Speaker 1: um with as well as the other had coach the

5199
04:28:22,840 --> 04:28:28,120
Speaker 1: other coaches and coach uh right, definitely Uh told me

5200
04:28:28,280 --> 04:28:31,040
Speaker 1: that I'll hit that system great, you know after watching

5201
04:28:31,160 --> 04:28:33,680
Speaker 1: some FilmOn them, I believe I do. You know, they're

5202
04:28:33,760 --> 04:28:37,040
Speaker 1: very like speed oriented, you know, that's what I you know,

5203
04:28:37,160 --> 04:28:39,800
Speaker 1: mode my game after as well as you know, I

5204
04:28:39,880 --> 04:28:42,480
Speaker 1: talked to the SCUTCHI teams coordinated as well. Yeah, and

5205
04:28:42,960 --> 04:28:45,400
Speaker 1: uh that's definitely a big aspect of my game as well.

5206
04:28:45,480 --> 04:28:49,160
Speaker 1: You know. Just um that's definitely something I take Friday.

5207
04:28:49,760 --> 04:28:52,200
Speaker 1: So just from that that aspect, you know, off it's

5208
04:28:52,280 --> 04:28:57,040
Speaker 1: really rel Mark, just one more before we let you go.

5209
04:28:57,280 --> 04:28:59,360
Speaker 1: But I think we've I think we got to handle

5210
04:28:59,440 --> 04:29:01,640
Speaker 1: on it. But no better person to hear it from

5211
04:29:01,920 --> 04:29:04,800
Speaker 1: than you can. We get a pronunciation on your last name,

5212
04:29:04,880 --> 04:29:10,600
Speaker 1: just for for Cowboys fans to get your there we go,

5213
04:29:10,760 --> 04:29:13,120
Speaker 1: all right, you heard it straight from him, real good

5214
04:29:14,120 --> 04:29:16,440
Speaker 1: well type promise you, we'll do, We'll be, we'll be.

5215
04:29:16,560 --> 04:29:19,120
Speaker 1: We will spread the word for you here on Dallas

5216
04:29:19,160 --> 04:29:21,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. We'll spread the word for you on

5217
04:29:21,600 --> 04:29:23,760
Speaker 1: that on your last name, so everybody will have you, right.

5218
04:29:23,920 --> 04:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I promise you one thing about this city. You come

5219
04:29:26,440 --> 04:29:28,120
Speaker 1: in here and make a bunch of plays. They will

5220
04:29:28,160 --> 04:29:30,640
Speaker 1: they will learn your name very quickly, and then you

5221
04:29:30,720 --> 04:29:33,000
Speaker 1: will see your last name on the back of jerseys

5222
04:29:33,200 --> 04:29:37,840
Speaker 1: of the fans. How about that. Oh okay, thank you

5223
04:29:37,960 --> 04:29:41,200
Speaker 1: very much, Thanks, thank you, Mark, appreciate you all right.

5224
04:29:41,320 --> 04:29:45,560
Speaker 1: Mark Zacha from the from Ursia, Wyoming. He is the

5225
04:29:46,600 --> 04:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Zacha from the from the I told you, I'll eventually,

5226
04:29:50,080 --> 04:29:52,320
Speaker 1: I'll learn it one day, work on it. I got you.

5227
04:29:52,400 --> 04:29:55,520
Speaker 1: We work on okay. So it was very nice to

5228
04:29:55,560 --> 04:29:58,160
Speaker 1: hear him. He talked about special team stuff. I think

5229
04:29:58,240 --> 04:30:00,640
Speaker 1: that's what you have to look at him his as well.

5230
04:30:01,200 --> 04:30:04,000
Speaker 1: Uh and for him uh to come here and be

5231
04:30:04,120 --> 04:30:07,800
Speaker 1: a part of what they're doing here with the Dallas Skyway.

5232
04:30:07,880 --> 04:30:10,800
Speaker 1: So uh, let's see here we're looking once again in

5233
04:30:10,800 --> 04:30:13,600
Speaker 1: the war room. Uh, the I just want to point

5234
04:30:13,640 --> 04:30:18,160
Speaker 1: out a pick, uh two forty one. The talk about names, Dane,

5235
04:30:18,200 --> 04:30:22,760
Speaker 1: you're great at names. Our lad from uh Oregon was

5236
04:30:22,800 --> 04:30:26,680
Speaker 1: selected here at the cornerback. Yes he was good for

5237
04:30:26,760 --> 04:30:29,800
Speaker 1: him by the Arizona, by the by the Arizona for heaving.

5238
04:30:30,120 --> 04:30:32,840
Speaker 1: Actually he was selected by the Cleveland Browns. My bad.

5239
04:30:32,960 --> 04:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, great, that's I mean, we talk about how

5240
04:30:35,920 --> 04:30:40,120
Speaker 1: heartbreaking is for some of these players. Um, for Efo Ariola,

5241
04:30:40,400 --> 04:30:42,400
Speaker 1: that's great that he's uh, he's able to be a

5242
04:30:42,520 --> 04:30:44,200
Speaker 1: draft pick, someone that would have been a first round

5243
04:30:44,240 --> 04:30:46,920
Speaker 1: pick most likely if not for the ACL injury, the

5244
04:30:47,000 --> 04:30:49,600
Speaker 1: knee issue that he's suffered before the Rose Bowl. Um,

5245
04:30:50,200 --> 04:30:52,960
Speaker 1: you see him has the cover technique that you want,

5246
04:30:53,040 --> 04:30:55,800
Speaker 1: the fluidity. Uh, he can fit as a nickel complained

5247
04:30:55,920 --> 04:30:57,880
Speaker 1: on the outside. You think he might even be able

5248
04:30:57,880 --> 04:30:59,600
Speaker 1: to play some safety. And so the big thing for

5249
04:30:59,720 --> 04:31:03,240
Speaker 1: him now is coming back from that injury working back

5250
04:31:03,280 --> 04:31:06,520
Speaker 1: onto the field. Probably takes a redshirt season this year

5251
04:31:06,800 --> 04:31:09,000
Speaker 1: as a as a rookie in the NFL. But in

5252
04:31:09,080 --> 04:31:11,440
Speaker 1: the seventh round, why not take him. See if you

5253
04:31:11,480 --> 04:31:13,560
Speaker 1: can develop him, see if you can get that knee right,

5254
04:31:13,840 --> 04:31:15,920
Speaker 1: and see if it pays off for the Cleveland Browns. Okay,

5255
04:31:16,040 --> 04:31:19,320
Speaker 1: the pick is that, Well, it looks like to me

5256
04:31:19,480 --> 04:31:22,400
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are on the clock right now at

5257
04:31:22,440 --> 04:31:26,760
Speaker 1: two forty three, So let's in fact and see what's

5258
04:31:26,800 --> 04:31:29,480
Speaker 1: going on. The picks that happened ahead of them would

5259
04:31:29,480 --> 04:31:36,480
Speaker 1: be the Oakland Raiders taking Dexter McDonald, the defensive back

5260
04:31:36,600 --> 04:31:39,280
Speaker 1: from Kansas, and then that would now mean that the

5261
04:31:39,400 --> 04:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are in fact on the clock. That pick

5262
04:31:43,400 --> 04:31:48,600
Speaker 1: from the Raiders was actually made from Carolina, so they

5263
04:31:48,640 --> 04:31:50,640
Speaker 1: are on the clock. It will see how that all

5264
04:31:51,160 --> 04:31:55,480
Speaker 1: plays out. But it looks like to me we're very

5265
04:31:55,600 --> 04:31:59,560
Speaker 1: much into the Cowboys trying to slick guys with some traits.

5266
04:32:00,240 --> 04:32:03,280
Speaker 1: You know, could they go uh offensive lineman here. I

5267
04:32:03,280 --> 04:32:07,200
Speaker 1: mean we've talked about We've talked about receivers, We've talked

5268
04:32:07,200 --> 04:32:08,840
Speaker 1: about a lot of it. I mean, he's I think

5269
04:32:08,880 --> 04:32:11,320
Speaker 1: the offensive linemen are the hardest to find. I think

5270
04:32:11,440 --> 04:32:14,800
Speaker 1: that's the hardest group to to try. And do you

5271
04:32:14,840 --> 04:32:16,880
Speaker 1: know when you started talking about battling and free agency,

5272
04:32:17,080 --> 04:32:19,400
Speaker 1: I think somebody brought that up, you know, I think

5273
04:32:19,520 --> 04:32:22,120
Speaker 1: that one of us was talking about do you want

5274
04:32:22,120 --> 04:32:25,200
Speaker 1: to you want to battle somebody else? In free agency

5275
04:32:25,880 --> 04:32:29,120
Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman, and you know, may I don't

5276
04:32:29,160 --> 04:32:32,720
Speaker 1: know receiver, offensive line. We talked about linebacker, We talked

5277
04:32:32,760 --> 04:32:35,520
Speaker 1: about running back. You know who would that be? Is

5278
04:32:35,560 --> 04:32:39,080
Speaker 1: there anybody that you particularly like that's left at any

5279
04:32:39,080 --> 04:32:43,240
Speaker 1: of these positions? I talked about Shed. Uh, you know,

5280
04:32:44,040 --> 04:32:45,920
Speaker 1: Gibson was a guy that I mean. I mean, I'm

5281
04:32:45,920 --> 04:32:48,880
Speaker 1: looking at my board right now, Guys, I've evaluated rawls,

5282
04:32:49,000 --> 04:32:54,560
Speaker 1: Shed Gibson. Whitehead speaking of Gibson, Oh he just okay, Hey,

5283
04:32:54,640 --> 04:32:58,480
Speaker 1: our seventh rone mock Gibson had We had that in

5284
04:32:58,520 --> 04:33:00,840
Speaker 1: our seventh round. Mack, there we go. I was set

5285
04:33:00,920 --> 04:33:02,920
Speaker 1: on it being farmer because I wanted to be right.

5286
04:33:03,040 --> 04:33:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh well, there we go. I didn't. I just was

5287
04:33:04,680 --> 04:33:08,160
Speaker 1: naming off names and all of a sudden, he goes up. Gibson,

5288
04:33:08,440 --> 04:33:13,960
Speaker 1: a offensive tackle from Virginia Tech, is the seventh round

5289
04:33:14,000 --> 04:33:17,840
Speaker 1: selection at pick two forty three value here in the

5290
04:33:17,880 --> 04:33:21,560
Speaker 1: seventh absolutely only started nineteen games over his career, but

5291
04:33:22,560 --> 04:33:25,480
Speaker 1: a player that you think his best football's ahead of him.

5292
04:33:25,480 --> 04:33:28,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna get better and better. H You see the coordination,

5293
04:33:28,919 --> 04:33:31,520
Speaker 1: You see his ability as both a pass protector and

5294
04:33:31,720 --> 04:33:34,200
Speaker 1: as a run blocker. He does a nice job with angles.

5295
04:33:34,240 --> 04:33:38,640
Speaker 1: He has range, and I think it's where where he

5296
04:33:38,720 --> 04:33:41,960
Speaker 1: got his opportunity. That's when he stepped up as a senior,

5297
04:33:42,080 --> 04:33:44,320
Speaker 1: got a chance to be the starting left tackle, started

5298
04:33:44,360 --> 04:33:47,080
Speaker 1: all thirteen games. Now, I think he does need time,

5299
04:33:47,440 --> 04:33:50,239
Speaker 1: he needs to work on his fundamentals, the functional power.

5300
04:33:50,960 --> 04:33:53,680
Speaker 1: But to me, I graded him as a practice squad

5301
04:33:53,759 --> 04:33:56,919
Speaker 1: candidate who you know, has some upside. I think he's

5302
04:33:57,080 --> 04:33:58,760
Speaker 1: probably a little a little bit more than that. He

5303
04:33:58,800 --> 04:34:00,600
Speaker 1: has a twenty four year old he's a little bit

5304
04:34:00,600 --> 04:34:03,440
Speaker 1: older than you want. But Lawrence Gibson nonetheless a good

5305
04:34:03,480 --> 04:34:07,600
Speaker 1: pick here. Can he play guard? Maybe? Maybe you know

5306
04:34:07,680 --> 04:34:09,440
Speaker 1: it's tough when you haven't seen him play. I'm not

5307
04:34:09,440 --> 04:34:10,800
Speaker 1: sure if they worked him out of guard or not.

5308
04:34:11,000 --> 04:34:14,600
Speaker 1: But only play tackle in college right tackle as a junior,

5309
04:34:15,040 --> 04:34:17,920
Speaker 1: left tackle as a senior. So he does a nice job.

5310
04:34:19,200 --> 04:34:23,240
Speaker 1: Again the coordination, Yeah, shuffle square, I mean, so you know,

5311
04:34:23,520 --> 04:34:26,080
Speaker 1: I think he could possibly do that. Yeah. I said

5312
04:34:26,120 --> 04:34:27,680
Speaker 1: this though, Dan and I totally agree with that. I

5313
04:34:27,759 --> 04:34:30,080
Speaker 1: said the position to stay in from his man. But

5314
04:34:30,160 --> 04:34:32,440
Speaker 1: I thought he lacked some upper body power, you know,

5315
04:34:32,600 --> 04:34:35,000
Speaker 1: and that's you know, and then function. But he can

5316
04:34:35,080 --> 04:34:37,280
Speaker 1: hold the whole guys in place. I think he had

5317
04:34:37,280 --> 04:34:39,880
Speaker 1: a little over extended at time. Very good with switch technique,

5318
04:34:39,919 --> 04:34:42,560
Speaker 1: stuff like that. He was aware the feet to get outside,

5319
04:34:42,640 --> 04:34:45,600
Speaker 1: initial quickness, you know, reach hook. Those are the things

5320
04:34:45,680 --> 04:34:48,160
Speaker 1: he can do. Can pull, get to the outside, come

5321
04:34:48,240 --> 04:34:50,360
Speaker 1: off the ball with some pop, stays with the blocks

5322
04:34:50,440 --> 04:34:53,320
Speaker 1: the outside, works to finish, you know, these are all trades.

5323
04:34:53,400 --> 04:34:56,759
Speaker 1: I saw that him going forward. I think that they

5324
04:34:56,800 --> 04:34:59,120
Speaker 1: said we'll get a little trouble in his set when

5325
04:34:59,160 --> 04:35:01,919
Speaker 1: his feet get too wide, and then that's what becomes

5326
04:35:02,120 --> 04:35:03,800
Speaker 1: a little bit over exten He has to be careful

5327
04:35:03,840 --> 04:35:05,400
Speaker 1: not to allow the man to get to his chest,

5328
04:35:06,040 --> 04:35:08,560
Speaker 1: but could quickly adjust on the move, nice slattle quickness.

5329
04:35:08,800 --> 04:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Wouldn't say he has great body control, but you don't

5330
04:35:11,880 --> 04:35:13,800
Speaker 1: see him on the ground. So and that would be

5331
04:35:13,880 --> 04:35:18,840
Speaker 1: Laurence Gibson's six six three h five five six six Yeah,

5332
04:35:19,040 --> 04:35:21,680
Speaker 1: well even more impressive over thirty five in charms too. Yeah,

5333
04:35:21,960 --> 04:35:25,120
Speaker 1: he can yeah, get get that extension and think what

5334
04:35:25,160 --> 04:35:27,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about with the past sets. You did see

5335
04:35:27,200 --> 04:35:28,800
Speaker 1: that with his eyes. I think I thought his eyes

5336
04:35:28,840 --> 04:35:30,480
Speaker 1: were all over the place at times. He needs to

5337
04:35:30,840 --> 04:35:33,760
Speaker 1: know learn some discipline there. But his first three seasons

5338
04:35:33,800 --> 04:35:36,960
Speaker 1: in Virginia Tech only twenty seven offensive snaps. So we're

5339
04:35:37,000 --> 04:35:39,640
Speaker 1: talking about a late bloomer. Played half the year last

5340
04:35:39,720 --> 04:35:41,440
Speaker 1: year as a junior, and then it was a starting

5341
04:35:41,520 --> 04:35:43,800
Speaker 1: left tackle as a senior. So a late bloomer didn't

5342
04:35:43,800 --> 04:35:46,680
Speaker 1: see a ton of time, only twenty seven combined snaps

5343
04:35:46,759 --> 04:35:49,919
Speaker 1: his first three seasons. But when he did find the field,

5344
04:35:50,560 --> 04:35:52,760
Speaker 1: he showed it some impressive flashes. You know, if we

5345
04:35:52,840 --> 04:35:56,920
Speaker 1: watched his highlight tape, you can put together some impressive plays. Yeah,

5346
04:35:57,280 --> 04:36:01,400
Speaker 1: and again I said it earlier about you know, you

5347
04:36:01,480 --> 04:36:05,480
Speaker 1: don't want to you don't want to find ways to uh,

5348
04:36:05,840 --> 04:36:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, guys like see you're looking at the trades.

5349
04:36:08,800 --> 04:36:10,800
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones is on the phone now, and and and

5350
04:36:10,840 --> 04:36:13,120
Speaker 1: the only reason I bring this up is I wonder

5351
04:36:13,120 --> 04:36:15,440
Speaker 1: if they're trying to get back into this round. I

5352
04:36:15,560 --> 04:36:18,000
Speaker 1: wonder if they're trying to flip a next year's, say,

5353
04:36:18,160 --> 04:36:21,480
Speaker 1: sixth round pick. Maybe they're just ordering some pizza, because well,

5354
04:36:21,480 --> 04:36:23,919
Speaker 1: they're looking. They're looking right now. Steven's looking back at

5355
04:36:24,000 --> 04:36:27,600
Speaker 1: the board and Todd Williams is standing to his left. Uh,

5356
04:36:27,800 --> 04:36:29,680
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out a way. There is somebody

5357
04:36:29,759 --> 04:36:32,280
Speaker 1: they have in mind on that board that they would

5358
04:36:32,360 --> 04:36:35,760
Speaker 1: like to try and get. Uh. Frank Pollock steps in

5359
04:36:36,720 --> 04:36:39,920
Speaker 1: thanking Jason Garrett for Hey, I'll coach that kid up.

5360
04:36:39,960 --> 04:36:42,719
Speaker 1: He's got two ready. Let's look at preseason games. Talk

5361
04:36:42,759 --> 04:36:46,000
Speaker 1: about that, you got Green and then you've also know

5362
04:36:46,120 --> 04:36:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know in Green and then also Gibson.

5363
04:36:49,680 --> 04:36:51,240
Speaker 1: You know, two guys that you'll see a lot in

5364
04:36:51,240 --> 04:36:53,720
Speaker 1: the preseason games in the second half. You know, those

5365
04:36:53,800 --> 04:36:55,640
Speaker 1: young guys. You can't have enough of those young guys

5366
04:36:55,720 --> 04:36:58,240
Speaker 1: you want to develop right there. So he's an older

5367
04:36:58,320 --> 04:37:00,640
Speaker 1: guy because he did go to Hardgrave Mill Terry Academy

5368
04:37:00,640 --> 04:37:02,960
Speaker 1: out of high school. That he went to Virginia Tech

5369
04:37:03,040 --> 04:37:05,600
Speaker 1: red shirt his first year, didn't see the field as

5370
04:37:05,640 --> 04:37:08,880
Speaker 1: a freshman or sophomore except just a few snaps, and

5371
04:37:09,080 --> 04:37:11,480
Speaker 1: then a junior year part time player, and then as

5372
04:37:11,560 --> 04:37:13,680
Speaker 1: senior full time starter at left tackle. Can I share

5373
04:37:13,759 --> 04:37:18,640
Speaker 1: my fun stat with y'all? Sure? Since drafting Mark Nizacha

5374
04:37:19,520 --> 04:37:25,000
Speaker 1: uh in Zacha Nizacha doesn't matter Inza, Cowboys have in

5375
04:37:25,080 --> 04:37:28,200
Speaker 1: addition to it out irritat. In addition to however many Americans,

5376
04:37:28,320 --> 04:37:32,359
Speaker 1: the Cowboys now have a German, a British Dutch international,

5377
04:37:32,640 --> 04:37:37,120
Speaker 1: and a Canadian talking three three foreign nationalities on the roster,

5378
04:37:37,560 --> 04:37:42,320
Speaker 1: a international team, not just Americans, world team world. McBride

5379
04:37:42,360 --> 04:37:44,320
Speaker 1: just came off the board of the Titans. Yeah, good

5380
04:37:44,360 --> 04:37:48,480
Speaker 1: to see that. Yeah. So the let's see the two Canadians.

5381
04:37:48,560 --> 04:37:51,480
Speaker 1: I forgot about LP Latiser, LP Lattiser. Did someone just

5382
04:37:51,560 --> 04:37:53,280
Speaker 1: make a mention to that as you as you did

5383
04:37:53,360 --> 04:37:57,240
Speaker 1: that wrongly? Okay, we look at the the let's see

5384
04:37:57,360 --> 04:38:00,880
Speaker 1: here this, Uh, the Colts had a pick at two

5385
04:38:01,160 --> 04:38:04,680
Speaker 1: forty four after Dallas pick, but that then they sent

5386
04:38:04,759 --> 04:38:08,000
Speaker 1: that pick to San Francisco. Uh, so that would be

5387
04:38:08,400 --> 04:38:14,480
Speaker 1: Trenton Brown, would be uh, the tackle from Florida would

5388
04:38:14,520 --> 04:38:19,640
Speaker 1: be that selection. And then after that you said the

5389
04:38:19,840 --> 04:38:25,640
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Uh it took uh William and Mary's Trey McBride.

5390
04:38:26,840 --> 04:38:30,640
Speaker 1: So that's where we are right now with the with

5391
04:38:30,759 --> 04:38:34,000
Speaker 1: the draft, as we're winding down, getting into the level

5392
04:38:34,080 --> 04:38:37,759
Speaker 1: where you have compensatory picks, and those compensatory picks can't

5393
04:38:37,759 --> 04:38:41,000
Speaker 1: be traded. So what you're talking about is like Stephen Jones,

5394
04:38:41,080 --> 04:38:43,520
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, guys like that, if they're diving on the

5395
04:38:43,600 --> 04:38:45,400
Speaker 1: phone right now to try and make something happen, they're

5396
04:38:45,480 --> 04:38:48,280
Speaker 1: running out of picks. In fact, to make that to

5397
04:38:48,640 --> 04:38:51,760
Speaker 1: get that done. Like, I'm sorry, I'm not to trivialize

5398
04:38:51,840 --> 04:38:53,879
Speaker 1: the hard work of running a draft board, but when

5399
04:38:53,919 --> 04:38:55,560
Speaker 1: you're this close to the end of the draft, is

5400
04:38:55,600 --> 04:38:58,040
Speaker 1: it really worth giving something up if there's a player

5401
04:38:58,080 --> 04:39:00,320
Speaker 1: you don't want to fight for in free agency? Yes,

5402
04:39:00,800 --> 04:39:02,920
Speaker 1: yes it is if you're better off draft of the

5403
04:39:03,000 --> 04:39:06,960
Speaker 1: guy next year six. Yeah, I know, well you just

5404
04:39:07,080 --> 04:39:09,480
Speaker 1: get You gave next year six to get Rolando McClain,

5405
04:39:09,560 --> 04:39:12,120
Speaker 1: which Lando mcclin was a top ten talent. There might

5406
04:39:12,200 --> 04:39:15,160
Speaker 1: be had a drastic, drastic knee. There might be a

5407
04:39:15,200 --> 04:39:17,160
Speaker 1: guy that they like. They might if you didn't like

5408
04:39:17,240 --> 04:39:20,160
Speaker 1: him enough to take him at two forty three, two

5409
04:39:20,360 --> 04:39:25,480
Speaker 1: hundred and forty three. Dallas is on the clock. As

5410
04:39:25,480 --> 04:39:27,360
Speaker 1: soon as I'll say it. Dallas is on the clock

5411
04:39:27,440 --> 04:39:30,360
Speaker 1: now here at two forty six. And let's see, they

5412
04:39:30,440 --> 04:39:33,960
Speaker 1: might have somebody in mind that the pick is in. Uh,

5413
04:39:34,080 --> 04:39:36,560
Speaker 1: let's see who in fact this might be. They must

5414
04:39:36,600 --> 04:39:39,880
Speaker 1: have gave up something on their board for for next

5415
04:39:40,000 --> 04:39:43,840
Speaker 1: year to get this done. Let's see if the when

5416
04:39:43,880 --> 04:39:48,840
Speaker 1: the name comes up, I'm waiting. Cowboys have traded Zach

5417
04:39:48,919 --> 04:39:52,240
Speaker 1: martin Cleveland in exchange for a seventh round pick. Could

5418
04:39:52,280 --> 04:39:57,000
Speaker 1: this be maybe Lucky Whitehead? Could this be uh that receiver?

5419
04:39:58,200 --> 04:40:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean that it could be Jeff Swamp the University

5420
04:40:01,680 --> 04:40:06,919
Speaker 1: of Texas. Wow, you know Jeff Swamp. I know he's

5421
04:40:06,960 --> 04:40:12,040
Speaker 1: a tight end. I was overly impressed, but hey, Jeff

5422
04:40:12,080 --> 04:40:14,720
Speaker 1: Swamp apparently see something in him. I can honestly say

5423
04:40:14,800 --> 04:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Swamp is not a guy that I have evaluated myself.

5424
04:40:18,160 --> 04:40:21,919
Speaker 1: So Dallas evidently gave up a pick in next year's

5425
04:40:22,000 --> 04:40:26,680
Speaker 1: draft for the opportunity to grab Jeff Swam at W

5426
04:40:28,080 --> 04:40:32,360
Speaker 1: S W A. I M. Whatever you say, guys, Jeff Swam,

5427
04:40:32,640 --> 04:40:35,800
Speaker 1: whatever you say, did you hear my notes on Jeff Swamp? Okay,

5428
04:40:36,280 --> 04:40:41,000
Speaker 1: inline backfield and there now and that would be they're

5429
04:40:41,000 --> 04:40:44,560
Speaker 1: officially out of business now now that ends the fight? Yeah, yeah,

5430
04:40:44,720 --> 04:40:49,520
Speaker 1: finish the fight. Athletic body control, Uh can make acrobat catches.

5431
04:40:50,000 --> 04:40:52,040
Speaker 1: He had a nice catch against West Virginia when the

5432
04:40:52,120 --> 04:40:54,199
Speaker 1: back of the end zone attacks it with his hands,

5433
04:40:54,440 --> 04:40:57,840
Speaker 1: kept his feet in bounds. Needs to work on his

5434
04:40:58,240 --> 04:41:00,560
Speaker 1: doing a better job blocking in space, a little too

5435
04:41:00,600 --> 04:41:03,800
Speaker 1: methodical and needs to just smash U. So it sounds

5436
04:41:03,800 --> 04:41:08,600
Speaker 1: like with with Swam a better uh better receiver than

5437
04:41:08,680 --> 04:41:11,280
Speaker 1: blocker at this point. But apparently they saw enough in

5438
04:41:11,360 --> 04:41:13,919
Speaker 1: him to go and get them. Yeah, they sure did. Well,

5439
04:41:13,960 --> 04:41:16,680
Speaker 1: what were the meashables you had on him, Dane, let

5440
04:41:16,720 --> 04:41:18,800
Speaker 1: me look that up. Okay, And while you do that,

5441
04:41:19,280 --> 04:41:22,680
Speaker 1: we the draft was but that was picked two forty six.

5442
04:41:22,800 --> 04:41:27,000
Speaker 1: That was a pick San Francisco from Indianapolis. So Dallas, oh,

5443
04:41:27,200 --> 04:41:32,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Something in next year's is not more than

5444
04:41:32,200 --> 04:41:34,640
Speaker 1: the seventh round pick. Although, and this is an easy

5445
04:41:34,720 --> 04:41:37,879
Speaker 1: pick to crack a joke about, you know, tight end,

5446
04:41:38,000 --> 04:41:39,400
Speaker 1: What are you doing with the tight end? They always

5447
04:41:39,440 --> 04:41:41,759
Speaker 1: draft tight end sixty four out and a half six

5448
04:41:41,880 --> 04:41:44,160
Speaker 1: four six four three okay, a six four and a

5449
04:41:44,200 --> 04:41:48,320
Speaker 1: half fifty two okay, four seven one forty yard dash okay,

5450
04:41:49,200 --> 04:41:51,440
Speaker 1: thirty five and thirty five and a half inch for

5451
04:41:52,080 --> 04:41:55,520
Speaker 1: ten to four broad, four five eight twenty yards shuttle

5452
04:41:55,560 --> 04:41:57,960
Speaker 1: and a seven two eight three cone. Okay. That was all.

5453
04:41:58,040 --> 04:42:01,440
Speaker 1: The Pro day was not a combine invite. Yeah, number

5454
04:42:01,520 --> 04:42:06,760
Speaker 1: eighty two for the longhornsh No. But what I was

5455
04:42:06,800 --> 04:42:10,480
Speaker 1: gonna say is it. I mean, tight end is like

5456
04:42:10,560 --> 04:42:13,600
Speaker 1: a bug a boo position for Cowboys fans because of

5457
04:42:13,680 --> 04:42:16,040
Speaker 1: how poorly it has worked out in previous drafts. But

5458
04:42:17,200 --> 04:42:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, James Hannah is about going to be a

5459
04:42:18,840 --> 04:42:20,520
Speaker 1: free agent at this time next year, he might not

5460
04:42:20,600 --> 04:42:22,840
Speaker 1: be on this team. And he's one of those guys

5461
04:42:22,880 --> 04:42:25,440
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier. His value does not show up

5462
04:42:25,480 --> 04:42:28,759
Speaker 1: on the stat sheet, So this makes sense and obvious.

5463
04:42:28,800 --> 04:42:31,480
Speaker 1: You know, Gavin Escobar, whatever he brings to the table,

5464
04:42:32,000 --> 04:42:34,640
Speaker 1: it's certainly not as a blocking tight end, the guy

5465
04:42:34,680 --> 04:42:36,080
Speaker 1: who can help you in the run game and in

5466
04:42:36,160 --> 04:42:38,520
Speaker 1: special teams and all that type of stuff. So it

5467
04:42:38,720 --> 04:42:41,320
Speaker 1: is it is a pick that that you can certainly

5468
04:42:41,400 --> 04:42:45,120
Speaker 1: justify in terms of looking ahead. Of course, he's got

5469
04:42:45,240 --> 04:42:48,120
Speaker 1: a In two years at Texas, he had thirteen catches,

5470
04:42:48,919 --> 04:42:52,360
Speaker 1: so and that's why you know a lot of people

5471
04:42:52,400 --> 04:42:54,360
Speaker 1: are a little surprised by this because he didn't see

5472
04:42:54,440 --> 04:42:56,800
Speaker 1: him a lot and it doesn't have the production he

5473
04:42:56,880 --> 04:43:00,360
Speaker 1: actually she started twenty two games, had thirteen catches, so

5474
04:43:00,520 --> 04:43:02,480
Speaker 1: eight more starts than he had catches in his career

5475
04:43:03,160 --> 04:43:05,680
Speaker 1: to only two years. Was a juco transfer for this team.

5476
04:43:05,759 --> 04:43:07,960
Speaker 1: As long as Jason Witten's here, I'm not looking for

5477
04:43:08,080 --> 04:43:10,600
Speaker 1: anybody else to be a pass catching tight end. I mean,

5478
04:43:10,680 --> 04:43:14,440
Speaker 1: James Hannah probably had Escobar. Is he doing it a lot. Well, no,

5479
04:43:14,560 --> 04:43:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he's a young guy. No, I

5480
04:43:16,960 --> 04:43:19,400
Speaker 1: still have hope that Escobar can become something more. But

5481
04:43:19,520 --> 04:43:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean what it was his final tally last year

5482
04:43:22,040 --> 04:43:24,760
Speaker 1: was like one hundred and fifty yards, sixty five of

5483
04:43:24,800 --> 04:43:27,280
Speaker 1: those coming in one game against the Giants. It's funny, though,

5484
04:43:27,320 --> 04:43:28,880
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. So if you always look

5485
04:43:28,880 --> 04:43:31,200
Speaker 1: at his catches have always been big catches. He's a

5486
04:43:31,280 --> 04:43:35,120
Speaker 1: great red zone target. Yeah. Honestly, much like Lance Dunbar,

5487
04:43:35,280 --> 04:43:39,160
Speaker 1: I put Gavin Escobar's lack of showing up more on

5488
04:43:39,280 --> 04:43:42,200
Speaker 1: the coaching staff than on him. Yeah, I don't think

5489
04:43:42,240 --> 04:43:45,040
Speaker 1: he's really getting the opportunity to. I mean, we saw

5490
04:43:45,120 --> 04:43:47,239
Speaker 1: what you could do against the Giants. Three catches, sixty

5491
04:43:47,320 --> 04:43:50,360
Speaker 1: five yards, two touchdowns. He told them. It's interesting, any

5492
04:43:50,480 --> 04:43:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't about Gavin Escobar though, but I

5493
04:43:52,560 --> 04:43:56,919
Speaker 1: do think, you know, Jane, whatever becomes of James Hannah,

5494
04:43:56,919 --> 04:43:58,760
Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if he moves on, maybe to

5495
04:43:58,800 --> 04:44:01,200
Speaker 1: find a better opportunity because somebody's willing to give them

5496
04:44:01,200 --> 04:44:03,800
Speaker 1: more money. Um. So this is this is something to

5497
04:44:03,840 --> 04:44:05,600
Speaker 1: think about. This is a pick for the future and

5498
04:44:06,040 --> 04:44:09,160
Speaker 1: training camp and keeping your guys fresh and it's into

5499
04:44:09,320 --> 04:44:12,480
Speaker 1: that good blocking stuff. It's interesting because these two you

5500
04:44:12,600 --> 04:44:18,080
Speaker 1: talk about, and Zacha and Swam two players that tested

5501
04:44:18,160 --> 04:44:21,040
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, the production's not there, there's not a lot,

5502
04:44:21,520 --> 04:44:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, a ton of tape um, you know, but

5503
04:44:24,680 --> 04:44:26,840
Speaker 1: they tested really well. And so I think that's that's

5504
04:44:26,840 --> 04:44:29,560
Speaker 1: an interesting thing we're seeing here late cowboys opting for

5505
04:44:29,759 --> 04:44:32,520
Speaker 1: guys that that you know, tested well. The numbers look good,

5506
04:44:33,840 --> 04:44:36,160
Speaker 1: and that's why you drafted them over what they showed

5507
04:44:36,240 --> 04:44:41,600
Speaker 1: on tape. Yeah, so we're now into Atlanta will have

5508
04:44:41,880 --> 04:44:45,960
Speaker 1: the last pick that can be traded, and then it

5509
04:44:46,120 --> 04:44:50,280
Speaker 1: becomes the compensatory phase where the Dallas Cowboys hope next

5510
04:44:50,400 --> 04:44:54,919
Speaker 1: year will have maybe some compensatory picks, you know, probably

5511
04:44:54,960 --> 04:44:58,480
Speaker 1: a seventh round or two, but hopefully more third, fourth

5512
04:44:58,560 --> 04:45:01,000
Speaker 1: round variety. Maybe that's why you make it trade, knowing

5513
04:45:01,040 --> 04:45:03,239
Speaker 1: that they've got some compensatory picks. If they give up

5514
04:45:03,240 --> 04:45:05,760
Speaker 1: a six round pick next year, maybe that's something that

5515
04:45:05,840 --> 04:45:07,960
Speaker 1: they're thinking about in the future. I mean, at the

5516
04:45:08,080 --> 04:45:10,040
Speaker 1: end of the it's not something worth getting been out

5517
04:45:10,040 --> 04:45:12,879
Speaker 1: of shape four, but it's certainly just you know, when

5518
04:45:12,919 --> 04:45:16,600
Speaker 1: you consider I mean, where was that pick that pick

5519
04:45:16,720 --> 04:45:23,240
Speaker 1: came in that pick was at two forty six, two four, one, two, three, four,

5520
04:45:23,680 --> 04:45:27,320
Speaker 1: five six, ten picks away from the end of the

5521
04:45:27,520 --> 04:45:29,560
Speaker 1: entire draft. Right, it seems a little silly that you

5522
04:45:29,680 --> 04:45:32,240
Speaker 1: have to make a trade to get that guy. But

5523
04:45:32,680 --> 04:45:35,880
Speaker 1: maybe they don't want to battle, and that's fine, that's fine.

5524
04:45:36,000 --> 04:45:37,560
Speaker 1: They get paid a lot more money than I do,

5525
04:45:37,680 --> 04:45:39,360
Speaker 1: to know a lot more than I do, so I'm

5526
04:45:39,400 --> 04:45:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna trust their judgment. But on the outside it it doesn't.

5527
04:45:44,000 --> 04:45:46,160
Speaker 1: It seems a little silly to me. But that's okay. Well,

5528
04:45:46,200 --> 04:45:48,480
Speaker 1: you just again, you don't want to fight, I know you.

5529
04:45:48,640 --> 04:45:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they might have it. They you know, they

5530
04:45:50,480 --> 04:45:52,320
Speaker 1: might have a deal where you know, they were in

5531
04:45:52,400 --> 04:45:54,560
Speaker 1: ten of getting this guy in free agency, and then

5532
04:45:54,600 --> 04:45:56,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it became, well, hey, how many

5533
04:45:56,880 --> 04:45:58,719
Speaker 1: how many teams are calling yet? Would it be I've

5534
04:45:58,759 --> 04:46:01,240
Speaker 1: talked to the Jets, talk to the Buccaneers, have talked

5535
04:46:01,240 --> 04:46:02,960
Speaker 1: to the Rams, and all of a sudden, You're like,

5536
04:46:03,000 --> 04:46:05,079
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this guy's talking to one hundred teams.

5537
04:46:05,200 --> 04:46:07,879
Speaker 1: If he's a blocking tight end and he went to Texas,

5538
04:46:08,400 --> 04:46:10,919
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that hard for a power run team from

5539
04:46:11,040 --> 04:46:12,920
Speaker 1: Dallas to get him to come up the road. No,

5540
04:46:13,120 --> 04:46:15,840
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised. Yeah, I know you'd be surprised. Rather,

5541
04:46:16,040 --> 04:46:18,360
Speaker 1: that's I keep I keep saying that to Seattle or

5542
04:46:19,440 --> 04:46:21,280
Speaker 1: but you also look at the situation. I mean, you

5543
04:46:21,360 --> 04:46:23,960
Speaker 1: gotta sell it too, you gotta say, just did sell it.

5544
04:46:24,000 --> 04:46:25,399
Speaker 1: It's right up the road, and they like to run

5545
04:46:25,440 --> 04:46:29,399
Speaker 1: the ball. NFC East approval rating right now, what's up

5546
04:46:29,440 --> 04:46:32,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys seventy seven percent approval rate? Oh well, the Giants

5547
04:46:32,440 --> 04:46:35,120
Speaker 1: are higher. But yeah, that's okay. But the giants get them.

5548
04:46:35,160 --> 04:46:38,400
Speaker 1: They're so high on flowers, flowers and um, they got

5549
04:46:38,520 --> 04:46:41,840
Speaker 1: oh diggy diggy, DIGGI diggy o digg oh diggie, you're

5550
04:46:41,840 --> 04:46:44,640
Speaker 1: so fine. No, it's the Vikings. And then just looking

5551
04:46:44,680 --> 04:46:48,680
Speaker 1: at the highest in the NFC. Uh in the Vikings

5552
04:46:48,759 --> 04:46:52,640
Speaker 1: at Trey Wayne. They're one of my quote unquote winners.

5553
04:46:53,000 --> 04:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Who else did they get? They got Dane him. You're

5554
04:46:54,600 --> 04:46:56,240
Speaker 1: getting the losers, right, I mean to what you would

5555
04:46:56,240 --> 04:46:58,640
Speaker 1: call the Saints and Saints and the Panthers, the two

5556
04:46:58,640 --> 04:47:01,680
Speaker 1: of my quote unquote losers and the other two looking

5557
04:47:01,759 --> 04:47:06,919
Speaker 1: like San Francisco and Saint Louis. So it's I love

5558
04:47:07,000 --> 04:47:10,120
Speaker 1: the instant reaction though, like we don't know nobody knows. Oh,

5559
04:47:10,600 --> 04:47:12,600
Speaker 1: I told you my story. I've told you one hundred times.

5560
04:47:12,600 --> 04:47:14,560
Speaker 1: You have. You've told me all your stories on hundred times,

5561
04:47:14,680 --> 04:47:16,440
Speaker 1: and you love every one of them. I love a

5562
04:47:16,480 --> 04:47:18,960
Speaker 1: few of them. You told me one. What's your favorite story?

5563
04:47:19,000 --> 04:47:23,160
Speaker 1: I tell you? Oh, God, I don't know. Is it clean? One? Uh?

5564
04:47:26,880 --> 04:47:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. What's my favorite? My favorite the

5565
04:47:29,240 --> 04:47:32,880
Speaker 1: one about Stephen lunging across the table. WI. Yeah, it's

5566
04:47:32,880 --> 04:47:35,200
Speaker 1: pretty good. That was during the draft. The Peter King's

5567
04:47:35,240 --> 04:47:38,360
Speaker 1: story is pretty damn funny. Peter King. Peter King fell

5568
04:47:38,400 --> 04:47:41,320
Speaker 1: asleep and the I'll tell the story real quick. Peter King,

5569
04:47:41,440 --> 04:47:44,000
Speaker 1: he comes in, he's scouting us, he's checking out what

5570
04:47:44,040 --> 04:47:45,840
Speaker 1: it's like being a scout. So he's sitting in the

5571
04:47:45,919 --> 04:47:48,360
Speaker 1: draft room. Will we have really a nice place that

5572
04:47:48,440 --> 04:47:51,680
Speaker 1: serves great food here named Eddie Dean And I hope

5573
04:47:51,680 --> 04:47:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm not get in trouble for saying that, But Eddie

5574
04:47:53,840 --> 04:47:57,000
Speaker 1: Dean they bring this this big feast, and so Peter

5575
04:47:57,200 --> 04:47:59,480
Speaker 1: loads up on the the food. He comes in the

5576
04:47:59,560 --> 04:48:03,039
Speaker 1: draft room and immediately falls asleep. Like the lights are

5577
04:48:03,080 --> 04:48:04,960
Speaker 1: off and the cape is running and all that. And

5578
04:48:05,400 --> 04:48:08,240
Speaker 1: we're sitting there evaluating and and everybody knows that Peter's asleep,

5579
04:48:08,360 --> 04:48:12,240
Speaker 1: and so Jerry Jones, h lights come on and Peter,

5580
04:48:12,840 --> 04:48:14,960
Speaker 1: Jerry goes, Peter, what do you think about that player?

5581
04:48:16,200 --> 04:48:18,400
Speaker 1: He goes Jerry. I I can't tell anything about the player,

5582
04:48:18,440 --> 04:48:21,000
Speaker 1: but you got a damn good lunch here. So that's

5583
04:48:21,120 --> 04:48:22,880
Speaker 1: my Peter King's story for the day. But yeah, Peter

5584
04:48:23,040 --> 04:48:25,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of a lot of things that go

5585
04:48:25,160 --> 04:48:28,720
Speaker 1: on in the good old my story. I'm old, I'm old,

5586
04:48:28,800 --> 04:48:31,240
Speaker 1: You've got you've got a few that are worth hearing

5587
04:48:31,320 --> 04:48:34,160
Speaker 1: over and over again. I appreciate that's very kind of you. Uh,

5588
04:48:34,640 --> 04:48:36,640
Speaker 1: as we close this thing out or getting you know,

5589
04:48:36,680 --> 04:48:40,200
Speaker 1: we're out the compensatory phases of are we gonna get

5590
04:48:40,280 --> 04:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Lawrence Gibson on the flat about five minutes as well? Yeah,

5591
04:48:43,720 --> 04:48:45,800
Speaker 1: so as soon as kid's gonna cue me up on that.

5592
04:48:45,919 --> 04:48:48,120
Speaker 1: But you know, we talk about the next three picks

5593
04:48:48,200 --> 04:48:51,120
Speaker 1: or Denver, Denver, Denver. So they're lining them all up.

5594
04:48:51,160 --> 04:48:53,960
Speaker 1: Hope they make them all at once, come on, Denver.

5595
04:48:54,520 --> 04:48:58,240
Speaker 1: But uh, just impressions of you know, and we're we're

5596
04:48:58,320 --> 04:49:00,480
Speaker 1: a Dallas cowboy. I just want to put it, put

5597
04:49:00,520 --> 04:49:02,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bow on this and maybe

5598
04:49:02,960 --> 04:49:04,320
Speaker 1: I should do this at the end when we get

5599
04:49:04,400 --> 04:49:07,440
Speaker 1: done completely with the draft, but just what we've experienced

5600
04:49:07,480 --> 04:49:09,960
Speaker 1: in the draft shows, and then going through all the

5601
04:49:10,120 --> 04:49:12,880
Speaker 1: things and and then at the end with the Cowboys

5602
04:49:12,919 --> 04:49:15,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and what they've done in the

5603
04:49:15,080 --> 04:49:18,040
Speaker 1: last three days. It's kind of ironic because they just

5604
04:49:18,200 --> 04:49:20,280
Speaker 1: traded up. They gave away a sixth round pick to

5605
04:49:20,360 --> 04:49:22,640
Speaker 1: get up and get it. They gave up something. Yeah,

5606
04:49:22,759 --> 04:49:24,560
Speaker 1: I think I read that it was a six Maybe

5607
04:49:24,560 --> 04:49:26,360
Speaker 1: it's not. Okay, they gave up something to go up

5608
04:49:26,360 --> 04:49:28,840
Speaker 1: and get this guy. Yeah, which is kind of ironic

5609
04:49:29,040 --> 04:49:32,440
Speaker 1: because I think the story of this draft has just

5610
04:49:32,680 --> 04:49:36,919
Speaker 1: been uh, is this Malcolm Brown? No, No, this is uh,

5611
04:49:37,200 --> 04:49:39,080
Speaker 1: this is the tech the Texas tied end. This is

5612
04:49:39,240 --> 04:49:42,200
Speaker 1: who Okay, Yeah, okay, there you go. They're gonna flip

5613
04:49:42,280 --> 04:49:44,680
Speaker 1: him doing bad radio here when we're talking about one

5614
04:49:44,720 --> 04:49:48,000
Speaker 1: of his thirteen catches. That's all right, looks athletic. I

5615
04:49:48,080 --> 04:49:49,880
Speaker 1: need to I need to sit down. And he's gonna

5616
04:49:49,919 --> 04:49:52,280
Speaker 1: need a new number. Yeah, he's wearing eighty two in

5617
04:49:52,360 --> 04:49:53,960
Speaker 1: this film. For those of you who aren't watching, that

5618
04:49:54,240 --> 04:49:58,120
Speaker 1: was the touchdown I was talking about it against West Virginia. Yeah,

5619
04:49:58,240 --> 04:50:00,280
Speaker 1: back of the end zone. It's it's funny is they

5620
04:50:00,320 --> 04:50:02,840
Speaker 1: traded up to get him, and which I mean, it's

5621
04:50:02,840 --> 04:50:05,000
Speaker 1: not a backbreaking trade. But the story of this draft

5622
04:50:05,040 --> 04:50:07,840
Speaker 1: has been just sitting put and letting you know the

5623
04:50:08,000 --> 04:50:10,320
Speaker 1: pryers come to you. I mean, we sweated through to

5624
04:50:10,400 --> 04:50:12,759
Speaker 1: twenty seven and got a great guy, and Byron Jones,

5625
04:50:12,800 --> 04:50:15,640
Speaker 1: they sweated through all the way to sixty and got

5626
04:50:15,800 --> 04:50:18,920
Speaker 1: one of the most intriguing talents in the entire draft.

5627
04:50:19,000 --> 04:50:22,200
Speaker 1: And Gregory, you play it cool. You don't reach for

5628
04:50:22,240 --> 04:50:24,160
Speaker 1: a running back or grab a running back or anything

5629
04:50:24,200 --> 04:50:26,600
Speaker 1: like that. And I mean, you know, the early report

5630
04:50:26,680 --> 04:50:28,720
Speaker 1: on Chaz Green is that he can be the swing

5631
04:50:28,800 --> 04:50:32,120
Speaker 1: tackle right away or maybe even play right tackle if

5632
04:50:32,200 --> 04:50:34,680
Speaker 1: something happens to Doug Free, which is I mean, that's

5633
04:50:34,680 --> 04:50:36,600
Speaker 1: what you want in a third round pick, is preferably

5634
04:50:36,600 --> 04:50:39,239
Speaker 1: a guy who you can plug right in. So I mean,

5635
04:50:40,720 --> 04:50:44,880
Speaker 1: I think all spring we talked about how late these

5636
04:50:44,960 --> 04:50:46,600
Speaker 1: picks were, you know, and how hard it was going

5637
04:50:46,680 --> 04:50:48,160
Speaker 1: to be to get the guys you wanted at the

5638
04:50:48,280 --> 04:50:50,960
Speaker 1: end of the round. But they certainly seem to make

5639
04:50:51,000 --> 04:50:54,080
Speaker 1: it work all the way through. Wouldn't you say, Yeah,

5640
04:50:54,160 --> 04:50:56,680
Speaker 1: I think the Dane go ahead. I'm gonna go ahead

5641
04:50:56,720 --> 04:50:59,640
Speaker 1: with your your thoughts on this well from the Cowboys,

5642
04:51:00,000 --> 04:51:01,280
Speaker 1: think what we're gonna hear the most about is the

5643
04:51:01,360 --> 04:51:03,879
Speaker 1: running back you know obviously, and that's I was going

5644
04:51:03,919 --> 04:51:06,200
Speaker 1: to get to that too. Every every every pick came

5645
04:51:06,240 --> 04:51:08,200
Speaker 1: and went no running back. And I think that's going

5646
04:51:08,320 --> 04:51:10,759
Speaker 1: to be the lasting impression for a lot of fans.

5647
04:51:10,800 --> 04:51:14,400
Speaker 1: And what's going to command the talk? Um, you know,

5648
04:51:15,040 --> 04:51:17,920
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in the running back position, you

5649
04:51:17,960 --> 04:51:20,240
Speaker 1: know what's what's it looked like moving forward? Will they

5650
04:51:20,320 --> 04:51:24,120
Speaker 1: pick anyone up? And as a priority free agent any

5651
04:51:24,120 --> 04:51:25,759
Speaker 1: of these running backs side or left? Maybe a Thomas

5652
04:51:25,840 --> 04:51:28,760
Speaker 1: Rawls that we've talked about one guys, um, But it

5653
04:51:28,919 --> 04:51:31,640
Speaker 1: tells you that they they stuck to their board and

5654
04:51:32,040 --> 04:51:35,200
Speaker 1: they didn't draft a running back necessarily over a player

5655
04:51:35,200 --> 04:51:38,360
Speaker 1: they had rated higher and talked about. In the third round. Uh,

5656
04:51:38,560 --> 04:51:40,800
Speaker 1: there was a first what three or four picks. Every

5657
04:51:40,840 --> 04:51:42,480
Speaker 1: single one of those picks was a top player on

5658
04:51:42,520 --> 04:51:45,440
Speaker 1: their board at that time. So you know it's uh

5659
04:51:46,040 --> 04:51:47,840
Speaker 1: time will tell if if it if it works out,

5660
04:51:47,880 --> 04:51:49,880
Speaker 1: and obviously they believe in this offensive line. Is this

5661
04:51:50,000 --> 04:51:52,640
Speaker 1: draft made, They're going to be made or broken by

5662
04:51:53,040 --> 04:51:56,640
Speaker 1: the pick with at sixty with Randy Gregory. I think

5663
04:51:56,680 --> 04:51:58,759
Speaker 1: it's easy to say that because that's going to receive

5664
04:51:58,800 --> 04:52:02,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the attention. I think that perception will

5665
04:52:02,280 --> 04:52:05,400
Speaker 1: be that. But I mean, I think it always starts

5666
04:52:05,440 --> 04:52:07,960
Speaker 1: and ends with your first round pick. I it does.

5667
04:52:08,240 --> 04:52:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, but Byron Jones is twenty seven. Overall, you

5668
04:52:11,800 --> 04:52:13,720
Speaker 1: didn't move to get him. In a lot of ways,

5669
04:52:13,800 --> 04:52:16,320
Speaker 1: we traded up to get a corner. Yeah, I mean,

5670
04:52:16,360 --> 04:52:18,880
Speaker 1: this isn't Mo Clayborne where you gave up valuable picks

5671
04:52:18,919 --> 04:52:20,960
Speaker 1: to go get your guy. You're at the end of

5672
04:52:20,960 --> 04:52:23,280
Speaker 1: the draft. You're pretty much hand tied with what you

5673
04:52:23,360 --> 04:52:26,040
Speaker 1: can do, right, you pick your guy. If Byron Jones

5674
04:52:26,160 --> 04:52:28,760
Speaker 1: is a bust, I don't think anybody's gonna hold it

5675
04:52:28,800 --> 04:52:31,440
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. But if Randy Gregory is a bust,

5676
04:52:31,520 --> 04:52:33,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a talking point for a long time.

5677
04:52:33,520 --> 04:52:35,520
Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. Yeah, I agree with

5678
04:52:35,600 --> 04:52:39,600
Speaker 1: you on and I wonder you know, Jerry Jones Stephen

5679
04:52:39,640 --> 04:52:41,680
Speaker 1: Jones said from the beginning that running back was not

5680
04:52:41,759 --> 04:52:44,480
Speaker 1: a must, and they obviously meant it. They didn't even

5681
04:52:44,520 --> 04:52:46,559
Speaker 1: take one in the very last stages of the draft.

5682
04:52:47,120 --> 04:52:51,600
Speaker 1: Do you think that does that qualify as a gamble, like,

5683
04:52:51,720 --> 04:52:53,840
Speaker 1: are you taking a gamble that these guys are gonna

5684
04:52:53,840 --> 04:52:56,240
Speaker 1: work out? I just, I just, I mean, I think

5685
04:52:56,280 --> 04:52:59,400
Speaker 1: they obviously have. You know, I've talked all along. I

5686
04:52:59,480 --> 04:53:02,640
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that they had a great deal of confidence,

5687
04:53:03,120 --> 04:53:05,520
Speaker 1: and I don't think they still do in these backs

5688
04:53:05,600 --> 04:53:08,400
Speaker 1: and then and then this strange strategy, and it is

5689
04:53:08,520 --> 04:53:11,760
Speaker 1: a strange strategy, it is, and maybe things have changed.

5690
04:53:11,840 --> 04:53:14,920
Speaker 1: But the vibe that I was getting coming out of

5691
04:53:14,960 --> 04:53:18,559
Speaker 1: the meetings at the end of the season was that, Okay,

5692
04:53:18,720 --> 04:53:21,480
Speaker 1: what kind of confidence do we have in you know,

5693
04:53:21,680 --> 04:53:24,040
Speaker 1: Joseph Randal, What kind of confidence do we have in

5694
04:53:24,640 --> 04:53:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, Ryan Williams, you know? And I just didn't

5695
04:53:27,720 --> 04:53:31,320
Speaker 1: get that vibe. It was like, hey, talented players, but

5696
04:53:31,480 --> 04:53:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, come to work, be prepared, be ready to go.

5697
04:53:34,440 --> 04:53:36,759
Speaker 1: And you know, if if you listen to Jerry when

5698
04:53:36,800 --> 04:53:38,880
Speaker 1: he's on with you know, on the radio one oh

5699
04:53:38,960 --> 04:53:42,480
Speaker 1: five three, he's like, you know, he was talking, it

5700
04:53:42,560 --> 04:53:45,200
Speaker 1: was always about bringing up Joe Randall, Joe Randall, Joe Randall,

5701
04:53:45,240 --> 04:53:47,560
Speaker 1: when with Murray and then all of a sudden it

5702
04:53:47,560 --> 04:53:50,280
Speaker 1: became you didn't stop talking about Joseph Randall. And then

5703
04:53:50,400 --> 04:53:52,120
Speaker 1: I start thinking, well, wait a minute he's talking to

5704
04:53:52,200 --> 04:53:55,520
Speaker 1: the coaches, he's Jerry. This is Jerry now. And then

5705
04:53:55,600 --> 04:53:57,720
Speaker 1: they had the meeting with the coaches. Well, then all

5706
04:53:57,960 --> 04:54:01,360
Speaker 1: his his his thoughts change. You know, it wasn't about

5707
04:54:01,680 --> 04:54:04,559
Speaker 1: Joseph Randallimore. It wasn't about Ryan Williams. And that's when

5708
04:54:04,640 --> 04:54:06,680
Speaker 1: the depth of this draft the running back and that's

5709
04:54:06,720 --> 04:54:09,040
Speaker 1: why we all thought. You know, the fact that you

5710
04:54:09,120 --> 04:54:12,840
Speaker 1: know that they they they didn't have that confidence. You

5711
04:54:12,880 --> 04:54:16,520
Speaker 1: remember how into training camp and the early part of

5712
04:54:16,560 --> 04:54:20,080
Speaker 1: the season and even still today, Uh, you know the

5713
04:54:20,680 --> 04:54:23,600
Speaker 1: the you know, we talk about passing on Johnny Manziel

5714
04:54:23,640 --> 04:54:26,400
Speaker 1: to get Zach Martin and Jerry is still getting commended

5715
04:54:26,520 --> 04:54:30,280
Speaker 1: for having the discipline to do that. Right, I can

5716
04:54:30,360 --> 04:54:34,080
Speaker 1: see a scenario where, you know, if Ryan Williams or

5717
04:54:34,200 --> 04:54:37,440
Speaker 1: Joseph randall is halfway to a thousand yards in October

5718
04:54:37,560 --> 04:54:41,280
Speaker 1: next year, same thing happening. Hey, you didn't overreact, You

5719
04:54:41,400 --> 04:54:44,280
Speaker 1: trusted the guys on your roster, you didn't reach for

5720
04:54:44,360 --> 04:54:46,480
Speaker 1: a player, and look how it paid off. These guys

5721
04:54:46,560 --> 04:54:49,640
Speaker 1: rewarded you. You know what you're doing. Conversely, if the

5722
04:54:49,759 --> 04:54:52,480
Speaker 1: running game struggles next year, they're gonna take a lot

5723
04:54:52,560 --> 04:54:55,600
Speaker 1: of heat. It's not addressing that position. It's especially with

5724
04:54:55,720 --> 04:54:57,800
Speaker 1: all the studs that they had to choose from. That's

5725
04:54:57,800 --> 04:54:59,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think that's the thing that's real

5726
04:55:00,280 --> 04:55:02,680
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting is that you know, you led a

5727
04:55:02,759 --> 04:55:06,120
Speaker 1: back that had eighteen hundred yards walk and you replaced

5728
04:55:06,200 --> 04:55:09,840
Speaker 1: him with a back that that has talent but probably

5729
04:55:09,840 --> 04:55:11,440
Speaker 1: but the injury probably. And then and then you're going

5730
04:55:11,520 --> 04:55:14,360
Speaker 1: with the guys that are behind him, and so they're

5731
04:55:14,440 --> 04:55:16,560
Speaker 1: either it's it's gonna be I mean there, I don't

5732
04:55:16,600 --> 04:55:18,560
Speaker 1: think there's any middle ground when you decide not to

5733
04:55:18,680 --> 04:55:22,160
Speaker 1: address again. If you draft Jagie in the fourth, you

5734
04:55:22,280 --> 04:55:24,320
Speaker 1: know you did, you did your due diligence, You tried

5735
04:55:24,360 --> 04:55:26,320
Speaker 1: to upgrade the position. If it doesn't work out, it's

5736
04:55:26,320 --> 04:55:29,239
Speaker 1: hard to blame you too much. But by not addressing

5737
04:55:29,280 --> 04:55:31,200
Speaker 1: it at all, you're putting yourself in a situation where

5738
04:55:31,200 --> 04:55:33,200
Speaker 1: you're either gonna look really good or really bad. And

5739
04:55:33,520 --> 04:55:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, we're just it's a game of wait and see.

5740
04:55:36,800 --> 04:55:39,800
Speaker 1: So we're still waiting. We're told we're gonna get to

5741
04:55:40,000 --> 04:55:42,720
Speaker 1: Laurence Gips get that done for us here. So uh

5742
04:55:43,480 --> 04:55:47,720
Speaker 1: so there he is, Okay, Uh, Laurence, welcome to our show.

5743
04:55:47,800 --> 04:55:50,320
Speaker 1: It's Brian brought us from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David

5744
04:55:50,400 --> 04:55:56,120
Speaker 1: Hellman and Dane Brugler. Congratulations on your selection to be

5745
04:55:56,240 --> 04:55:59,480
Speaker 1: a part of the Dallas Cowboys going forward here. Oh,

5746
04:55:59,640 --> 04:56:03,280
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Well and Lawrence with did you

5747
04:56:03,360 --> 04:56:06,920
Speaker 1: know did you have an opportunity, uh, you know with

5748
04:56:07,280 --> 04:56:10,440
Speaker 1: uh to meet with you know, the Cowboys at any

5749
04:56:10,560 --> 04:56:14,000
Speaker 1: point in time? Did you have any idea any conversations

5750
04:56:14,120 --> 04:56:17,520
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff Jerry jam in the front office.

5751
04:56:17,960 --> 04:56:19,920
Speaker 1: I know the scouts went through and saw you play

5752
04:56:19,960 --> 04:56:22,200
Speaker 1: there at Virginia Tech. We got a chance to see

5753
04:56:22,200 --> 04:56:23,879
Speaker 1: you play on tape. You know, we had a lot

5754
04:56:23,919 --> 04:56:26,160
Speaker 1: of really positive things to say about you. But did

5755
04:56:26,240 --> 04:56:29,720
Speaker 1: you have any any meetings with the Cowboys, whether it's

5756
04:56:29,800 --> 04:56:32,800
Speaker 1: uh the combine or any anything down the line that

5757
04:56:32,919 --> 04:56:34,640
Speaker 1: we that that led you to believe that you could

5758
04:56:34,640 --> 04:56:40,520
Speaker 1: be their selection. Yes, so I'm uh the Cowboys stuff

5759
04:56:40,560 --> 04:56:43,800
Speaker 1: at the call online and then coached Colombo flew out

5760
04:56:43,840 --> 04:56:47,919
Speaker 1: to Virginia Tech and uh we spent we spent probably

5761
04:56:47,919 --> 04:56:50,960
Speaker 1: four or five hours ago. Uh we did some like

5762
04:56:51,160 --> 04:56:57,520
Speaker 1: fields work and then some some football talk. Well great, yeah, Lawrence, Um,

5763
04:56:58,120 --> 04:56:59,920
Speaker 1: you know David Helman here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com

5764
04:57:00,160 --> 04:57:02,800
Speaker 1: congrats first of all, but you know it's been a

5765
04:57:02,880 --> 04:57:06,120
Speaker 1: talking point here in Dallas for the last uh several years,

5766
04:57:06,240 --> 04:57:09,120
Speaker 1: just the work they've done working on this offensive line,

5767
04:57:09,160 --> 04:57:12,200
Speaker 1: the guys they've brought in, uh Tyrn Smith, Doug free

5768
04:57:12,360 --> 04:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, all that, all those picks that they've used

5769
04:57:16,120 --> 04:57:18,880
Speaker 1: to shore this thing up. What's your impression of the

5770
04:57:18,960 --> 04:57:23,800
Speaker 1: situation you're stepping into the room you mentioned, uh, Mark Colombo,

5771
04:57:23,960 --> 04:57:26,400
Speaker 1: just the guys here and the unit that they've built

5772
04:57:26,400 --> 04:57:29,399
Speaker 1: here in Dallas. I mean, it's just it's just an

5773
04:57:29,440 --> 04:57:31,960
Speaker 1: amazing opportunity, Like I'm gonna get to go there and

5774
04:57:32,560 --> 04:57:35,960
Speaker 1: work with Pro Bowl offensive lineman and what you can't

5775
04:57:36,120 --> 04:57:39,640
Speaker 1: you can't ask for any better than that. When when

5776
04:57:39,800 --> 04:57:42,160
Speaker 1: Mark went out there, and we all know Mark here.

5777
04:57:42,280 --> 04:57:45,520
Speaker 1: Mark's kind of a tough old school offensive lineman himself.

5778
04:57:46,080 --> 04:57:48,200
Speaker 1: He puts you through some pretty good paces there. You

5779
04:57:48,240 --> 04:57:50,360
Speaker 1: talked about working with him on the field and all that,

5780
04:57:50,960 --> 04:57:52,800
Speaker 1: Uh did did he did? He did? He get down

5781
04:57:52,880 --> 04:57:54,560
Speaker 1: and dirty with you a little bit, kind of try

5782
04:57:54,560 --> 04:57:57,960
Speaker 1: and push you around and see where you're at. Oh yeah,

5783
04:57:58,280 --> 04:58:00,680
Speaker 1: of course that was That was probably be one of

5784
04:58:00,880 --> 04:58:03,560
Speaker 1: like the most genuous workouts that I that I had.

5785
04:58:03,640 --> 04:58:06,080
Speaker 1: We were out there for probably like an hour and

5786
04:58:06,160 --> 04:58:10,720
Speaker 1: a half. Well, good, just doing drill after drill, right, yeah,

5787
04:58:10,800 --> 04:58:12,480
Speaker 1: well that you know, Mark's one of those guys like

5788
04:58:12,560 --> 04:58:14,840
Speaker 1: we know and you know, let me ask you this.

5789
04:58:14,960 --> 04:58:17,600
Speaker 1: Had they give any any indication that Mark, did they

5790
04:58:17,680 --> 04:58:21,200
Speaker 1: work any any particular position on the right side the

5791
04:58:21,320 --> 04:58:23,960
Speaker 1: left side? Is any any give you any case er

5792
04:58:24,240 --> 04:58:26,080
Speaker 1: or do they tell you to be pretty flexible about

5793
04:58:26,120 --> 04:58:28,520
Speaker 1: maybe what they can do with you? Oh? I mean

5794
04:58:28,640 --> 04:58:31,440
Speaker 1: I am flexible. And when we had to work out,

5795
04:58:31,480 --> 04:58:34,640
Speaker 1: I didn't work both sides left hand, right, But um

5796
04:58:34,960 --> 04:58:37,320
Speaker 1: I also played left and right in college too, so

5797
04:58:38,160 --> 04:58:41,280
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna work in wherever I can. Well,

5798
04:58:41,440 --> 04:58:44,960
Speaker 1: very good, Well listen, Laurds. Hey, congratulations on your selection

5799
04:58:45,000 --> 04:58:46,840
Speaker 1: that Dallas course. Thanks for spending some time with us,

5800
04:58:47,080 --> 04:58:49,000
Speaker 1: and we'll see when you get here in Dallas and

5801
04:58:49,240 --> 04:58:51,719
Speaker 1: looking forward to working with you and uh and getting

5802
04:58:51,759 --> 04:58:55,080
Speaker 1: this thing going for you. Okay, congrats, All right, thanks guys,

5803
04:58:56,360 --> 04:59:01,320
Speaker 1: All right. Laurence Gibson, the offensive tackle from Virginia Tech,

5804
04:59:01,720 --> 04:59:04,600
Speaker 1: was selected in the seventh round by the Dallas Cowboys.

5805
04:59:05,200 --> 04:59:07,760
Speaker 1: Uh he was uh what pick was that? That was

5806
04:59:07,800 --> 04:59:12,320
Speaker 1: pick two? Forty three down to the final few selections

5807
04:59:12,520 --> 04:59:17,320
Speaker 1: in this draft. We are at pick two fifty five

5808
04:59:17,800 --> 04:59:22,480
Speaker 1: is in that's owned by the Indianapolis Colts. And uh,

5809
04:59:22,640 --> 04:59:26,240
Speaker 1: then the final pick of this draft will be at

5810
04:59:26,320 --> 04:59:30,520
Speaker 1: two fifty six and that is owned by the Arizona Cardinals.

5811
04:59:30,759 --> 04:59:35,720
Speaker 1: So to quote a song, it's been a long, strange

5812
04:59:35,840 --> 04:59:38,840
Speaker 1: journey to this point in time. We've talked about a

5813
04:59:38,840 --> 04:59:41,360
Speaker 1: little bit about the Cowboys and what we've thought. Uh,

5814
04:59:41,560 --> 04:59:45,440
Speaker 1: that's been you know, sitting sitting in spots. Really, the

5815
04:59:45,520 --> 04:59:49,280
Speaker 1: only move they made was to get a to flip

5816
04:59:49,400 --> 04:59:53,520
Speaker 1: a pick next year to gravitten. Did you expect Alas

5817
04:59:53,560 --> 04:59:57,560
Speaker 1: to to be uh, just to be this calm with

5818
04:59:57,720 --> 05:00:02,280
Speaker 1: their draft that the seventh round, that was trading into

5819
05:00:02,360 --> 05:00:04,560
Speaker 1: that back into the seventh rounds. I'm still trying to

5820
05:00:04,640 --> 05:00:06,560
Speaker 1: wrap my head around that. Just not not not that

5821
05:00:06,720 --> 05:00:08,960
Speaker 1: it's the wrong move, but just I don't think any

5822
05:00:08,960 --> 05:00:10,680
Speaker 1: of us saw that coming. No, it's a weird thing

5823
05:00:10,759 --> 05:00:13,239
Speaker 1: to see. It really is giving up a future sixth

5824
05:00:13,880 --> 05:00:16,800
Speaker 1: for a seventh this year. Obviously they saw something in

5825
05:00:16,880 --> 05:00:20,160
Speaker 1: the player that they didn't want to fight other teams

5826
05:00:20,200 --> 05:00:23,680
Speaker 1: to sign him in state. I mean, he's a California kid,

5827
05:00:23,919 --> 05:00:26,720
Speaker 1: but he played in state of Texas. Uh. I don't

5828
05:00:26,759 --> 05:00:28,680
Speaker 1: think anyone saw it coming. And here we are down

5829
05:00:28,759 --> 05:00:32,240
Speaker 1: to the final pick, number two fifty six coming here shortly.

5830
05:00:32,800 --> 05:00:36,200
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's bittersweet. It's crazy that we just went

5831
05:00:36,240 --> 05:00:39,160
Speaker 1: through two hundred and fifty six picks last three days

5832
05:00:39,400 --> 05:00:42,640
Speaker 1: and all the all the draft shows everything we've done

5833
05:00:42,680 --> 05:00:46,640
Speaker 1: the last few months culminating right now. Yeah, and then uh,

5834
05:00:46,880 --> 05:00:50,520
Speaker 1: it's it's always a it's a very frantic time. What's

5835
05:00:50,560 --> 05:00:54,960
Speaker 1: going on in these war rooms around the country. And

5836
05:00:55,400 --> 05:00:57,840
Speaker 1: it looks like that pick two hundred and fifty six

5837
05:00:58,800 --> 05:01:03,000
Speaker 1: is in fact in Solia Collins to not get drafted. No, yeah,

5838
05:01:03,320 --> 05:01:06,440
Speaker 1: and that kind of some rumblings around the building today

5839
05:01:06,560 --> 05:01:08,480
Speaker 1: that they might kick the tires on that, but I

5840
05:01:08,560 --> 05:01:13,320
Speaker 1: guess they Ultimately, I've never seen anything like that. You know,

5841
05:01:15,240 --> 05:01:17,880
Speaker 1: he can't re enter the draft next year, No, he can't.

5842
05:01:17,919 --> 05:01:21,240
Speaker 1: And you know so that wait, he can't if even

5843
05:01:21,280 --> 05:01:23,759
Speaker 1: if he decides not to sign with the team he's

5844
05:01:23,800 --> 05:01:26,440
Speaker 1: a free agent now oh wow, yeah, yeah, they can't.

5845
05:01:26,520 --> 05:01:29,880
Speaker 1: He can't do that. So uh so his his his

5846
05:01:30,080 --> 05:01:32,520
Speaker 1: camp was confident on him getting drafted, and then he

5847
05:01:32,560 --> 05:01:35,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't sign his paperwork, and then he'd be eligible, right

5848
05:01:35,280 --> 05:01:38,360
Speaker 1: if he was drafted then and he didn't sign, then

5849
05:01:38,440 --> 05:01:41,200
Speaker 1: he could have re entered The team that drafted him

5850
05:01:41,240 --> 05:01:43,200
Speaker 1: had his rights for a year, right, and then he

5851
05:01:43,200 --> 05:01:45,960
Speaker 1: could have re entered the draft next year. But since

5852
05:01:46,040 --> 05:01:48,840
Speaker 1: he went undrafted, technically he is a free agent right

5853
05:01:48,880 --> 05:01:51,680
Speaker 1: now exactly, So what the hell happened? So he's got

5854
05:01:51,720 --> 05:01:54,440
Speaker 1: a meeting with the police on Monday, and then there's

5855
05:01:54,480 --> 05:01:58,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a stampede of NFL teams, assuming that everything

5856
05:01:58,840 --> 05:02:02,240
Speaker 1: is okay. Eagle Front, yep, that'll be an interesting that

5857
05:02:02,320 --> 05:02:05,320
Speaker 1: should be very interesting to watch. It's a shame a

5858
05:02:05,440 --> 05:02:08,040
Speaker 1: kid goes from a first round pick. But again, I

5859
05:02:08,520 --> 05:02:12,400
Speaker 1: just kind of gathering a little facts or some information

5860
05:02:12,480 --> 05:02:15,200
Speaker 1: on it. Sounds like this is really something that he

5861
05:02:15,640 --> 05:02:18,719
Speaker 1: could have taken care of a while ago and did

5862
05:02:18,840 --> 05:02:22,600
Speaker 1: not do that. So listen to everybody out there to

5863
05:02:22,800 --> 05:02:26,719
Speaker 1: take care of your business and not everybody gets charged

5864
05:02:26,720 --> 05:02:29,640
Speaker 1: with it's not charged, but it gets questioned on these

5865
05:02:29,720 --> 05:02:32,160
Speaker 1: kind of things. So can't let's do this. You got

5866
05:02:32,200 --> 05:02:34,520
Speaker 1: two fifty six, Let's go to the podium and get

5867
05:02:34,560 --> 05:02:37,239
Speaker 1: the final pick event for all of us to enjoy.

5868
05:02:38,600 --> 05:02:41,480
Speaker 1: It's so mean that they call this guy. Things must

5869
05:02:41,520 --> 05:02:43,360
Speaker 1: come to an end. For the final pick of a

5870
05:02:43,440 --> 05:02:48,080
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen draft. Please welcome to the podium, Melanie Fitch.

5871
05:02:48,320 --> 05:02:51,400
Speaker 1: She is the daughter of NFL legend and the founder

5872
05:02:51,520 --> 05:02:56,480
Speaker 1: of mister Irrelevant, Paul Salata. Melanie Welcome. It's like, oh, congratulations,

5873
05:02:56,560 --> 05:03:00,760
Speaker 1: you don't matter. He gets a parade and everything. The

5874
05:03:00,880 --> 05:03:04,919
Speaker 1: final pick of the NFL Draft, also known as mister Irrelevant,

5875
05:03:05,320 --> 05:03:09,600
Speaker 1: reaches a significant milestone in twenty fifteen. This year's selection

5876
05:03:09,759 --> 05:03:15,080
Speaker 1: kicks off the fortieth year of Irrelevant Week, where mister irrelevance, perseverance, determination,

5877
05:03:15,240 --> 05:03:17,800
Speaker 1: and athletic achievements will be honored at the Bellboa Bay

5878
05:03:17,880 --> 05:03:21,400
Speaker 1: Resort in Newport Beach, California, for the announcement of the

5879
05:03:21,520 --> 05:03:25,680
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal selection of Mister Irrelevant. Forty. Let's turn it

5880
05:03:25,720 --> 05:03:30,520
Speaker 1: to mister Irrelevant thirty seven Cardinals quarterback Chandler Harness, who's

5881
05:03:31,000 --> 05:03:41,239
Speaker 1: joined by Paul Salata, founder of Irrelevant. Chandler. All right, everybody,

5882
05:03:41,320 --> 05:03:44,000
Speaker 1: the final round of the draft is finally in. This

5883
05:03:44,160 --> 05:03:46,440
Speaker 1: is also known as mister Irrelevant. So the final pick

5884
05:03:46,520 --> 05:03:49,720
Speaker 1: for twenty fifteen reaches a huge milestone. This is the

5885
05:03:49,800 --> 05:03:55,720
Speaker 1: fortieth year for mister Irrelevant Week, and that's celebrating perseverance, determination,

5886
05:03:55,919 --> 05:03:58,320
Speaker 1: athletic achievement and all that's going to be honored. We

5887
05:03:58,400 --> 05:04:01,000
Speaker 1: have President Michael Bidwell here today with the Arizona Cardinal

5888
05:04:01,440 --> 05:04:03,840
Speaker 1: and we also do about this the first So the

5889
05:04:03,880 --> 05:04:07,440
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals want to have the selection of mister Irrelevant

5890
05:04:07,680 --> 05:04:11,720
Speaker 1: number forty announced by mister Irrelevant thirty seven. And that's

5891
05:04:11,759 --> 05:04:14,399
Speaker 1: the quarterback you're seeing right here. This is Chandler Harness

5892
05:04:14,480 --> 05:04:22,200
Speaker 1: and he's joined by mister irrelevant founder Paul Salata. All right,

5893
05:04:22,240 --> 05:04:24,040
Speaker 1: here we go, shout out to the Red Sea and

5894
05:04:24,080 --> 05:04:27,600
Speaker 1: the Bird Gang with the thirty ninth pick, seventh round

5895
05:04:27,680 --> 05:04:32,280
Speaker 1: two fifty six overall, the two thy fifteen. Mister Irrelevant

5896
05:04:32,320 --> 05:04:36,520
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals at Cardinals is Gerald Christian tied

5897
05:04:36,640 --> 05:04:40,079
Speaker 1: end for there you go one. He goes from one

5898
05:04:40,160 --> 05:04:44,000
Speaker 1: Cardinal to the other Cardinal. You done, former Florida transfer.

5899
05:04:44,200 --> 05:04:48,560
Speaker 1: So Gerald Christian as mister irrelevant pick two fifty six

5900
05:04:49,480 --> 05:04:54,800
Speaker 1: and that will close the an annual selection meeting. Is

5901
05:04:54,960 --> 05:04:57,840
Speaker 1: the NFL likes to call it. I like to call

5902
05:04:57,919 --> 05:05:00,440
Speaker 1: it the draft. The NFL Draft. It's been a part

5903
05:05:00,480 --> 05:05:03,800
Speaker 1: of my life. Since nineteen ninety two. I enjoy every

5904
05:05:03,880 --> 05:05:06,480
Speaker 1: single minute of it. I enjoyed the preparation. Thank you

5905
05:05:06,600 --> 05:05:09,640
Speaker 1: very much, Jim Nance for the music tradition. Yeah, a

5906
05:05:09,720 --> 05:05:13,560
Speaker 1: tradition like no other. Hello but friends. But now we're

5907
05:05:13,600 --> 05:05:15,600
Speaker 1: about to have a press conference coming up here and

5908
05:05:15,640 --> 05:05:18,840
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and we do, and we do, and again,

5909
05:05:18,919 --> 05:05:21,000
Speaker 1: I just want to get some just some final thoughts.

5910
05:05:21,040 --> 05:05:22,360
Speaker 1: I was trying to kind of get there before we

5911
05:05:22,440 --> 05:05:26,200
Speaker 1: got to mister irrelevant, But just some you know, final thoughts.

5912
05:05:26,320 --> 05:05:29,040
Speaker 1: We talked about the Cowboys, we talked about some of

5913
05:05:29,120 --> 05:05:31,280
Speaker 1: the surprises we thought, we talked about the ways that

5914
05:05:31,400 --> 05:05:34,480
Speaker 1: they might have helped themselves. We will always question about

5915
05:05:34,520 --> 05:05:38,720
Speaker 1: the running backs that situation. But just some final thoughts

5916
05:05:38,960 --> 05:05:42,520
Speaker 1: about the draft itself. And uh, and I'm not asking

5917
05:05:42,560 --> 05:05:45,680
Speaker 1: to grade anything or but just kind of what your

5918
05:05:46,080 --> 05:05:49,840
Speaker 1: impressions were overall, I think, I mean, there's one glaring,

5919
05:05:50,240 --> 05:05:54,120
Speaker 1: obvious exception, which is Randy Gregory. I mean it's not

5920
05:05:54,720 --> 05:05:56,680
Speaker 1: and I mean this as a compliments. I don't get

5921
05:05:56,720 --> 05:05:58,880
Speaker 1: me wrong. It's not a lot of flash here. To me.

5922
05:05:59,120 --> 05:06:02,240
Speaker 1: It's an effish and you know, you address needs. It's

5923
05:06:02,320 --> 05:06:04,640
Speaker 1: kind of like Zack Martin last year, nobody got excited

5924
05:06:04,640 --> 05:06:07,440
Speaker 1: about Zack Martin. People were audibly disappointed in the crowd

5925
05:06:07,480 --> 05:06:09,759
Speaker 1: when it wasn't Johnny Manziel. But he goes out, he's

5926
05:06:09,800 --> 05:06:11,879
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl or he fits the need, and that's

5927
05:06:11,960 --> 05:06:13,239
Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about this. I mean, you're

5928
05:06:13,320 --> 05:06:16,600
Speaker 1: drafting guys who you know, Chaz Green doesn't really move

5929
05:06:16,640 --> 05:06:18,960
Speaker 1: the needle, but you needed a swing tackle. You needed

5930
05:06:19,000 --> 05:06:20,960
Speaker 1: a guy that you feel confident can step in if

5931
05:06:21,000 --> 05:06:23,120
Speaker 1: one of your guys gets hurt. They got that. They

5932
05:06:23,200 --> 05:06:25,120
Speaker 1: got a guy who you think can probably be one

5933
05:06:25,120 --> 05:06:27,080
Speaker 1: of the top three corners on this team right away.

5934
05:06:27,120 --> 05:06:33,120
Speaker 1: And Byron Jones, you know Wilson the linebacker. Again, maybe

5935
05:06:33,160 --> 05:06:34,520
Speaker 1: not a guy that's going to step in and have

5936
05:06:34,560 --> 05:06:37,079
Speaker 1: a hundred tackles as a rookie, but you need depth,

5937
05:06:37,200 --> 05:06:40,120
Speaker 1: a for injuries, be for special teams, see because you

5938
05:06:40,160 --> 05:06:42,480
Speaker 1: don't know the long term future of the position, so

5939
05:06:43,000 --> 05:06:46,640
Speaker 1: you know you gotta when you're thinking about it years

5940
05:06:46,720 --> 05:06:49,080
Speaker 1: down the line instead of Week one, twenty fifteen. I

5941
05:06:49,160 --> 05:06:52,200
Speaker 1: think all these guys serve a very direct purpose, and

5942
05:06:52,280 --> 05:06:55,400
Speaker 1: then I think the exclamation point is a flashy, sexy

5943
05:06:55,520 --> 05:06:58,480
Speaker 1: guy who can Randy Gregory if he is what they

5944
05:06:58,520 --> 05:07:00,879
Speaker 1: hope he is. Then you're talking about a double digit

5945
05:07:00,960 --> 05:07:03,960
Speaker 1: sack guy who can anchor your defensive line along with

5946
05:07:04,040 --> 05:07:07,160
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence. Again, you can never predict it, but

5947
05:07:07,200 --> 05:07:08,840
Speaker 1: if it goes the way they want it to, then

5948
05:07:09,160 --> 05:07:11,600
Speaker 1: that's a great tandem to have on your defensive line

5949
05:07:11,640 --> 05:07:14,080
Speaker 1: for the next few years. So, you know, I don't

5950
05:07:14,080 --> 05:07:15,640
Speaker 1: know how to grade a draft, but I would give

5951
05:07:15,720 --> 05:07:18,600
Speaker 1: this one a good grade. Absolutely, we're gonna go to

5952
05:07:18,720 --> 05:07:21,360
Speaker 1: our guy who's not been mister Irrelevant at all. He's

5953
05:07:21,400 --> 05:07:25,920
Speaker 1: been a first round pick all throughout this he takes

5954
05:07:26,000 --> 05:07:27,440
Speaker 1: his time to come and be a part of what

5955
05:07:27,560 --> 05:07:29,840
Speaker 1: we do here at the Draft show and then also

5956
05:07:29,960 --> 05:07:32,360
Speaker 1: what we were doing on the road at the Senior Bowl,

5957
05:07:32,880 --> 05:07:35,880
Speaker 1: and then also at the Combine. And Dane, we can't

5958
05:07:35,960 --> 05:07:37,960
Speaker 1: thank you enough for all the things that you've done

5959
05:07:38,000 --> 05:07:41,520
Speaker 1: for us, and you know, and the expertise that you bring,

5960
05:07:41,640 --> 05:07:43,600
Speaker 1: the professionalism. I know one day we're gonna lose you

5961
05:07:43,680 --> 05:07:46,080
Speaker 1: to one of these NFL teams and you're gonna be

5962
05:07:46,080 --> 05:07:48,920
Speaker 1: a part of that and picking these guys for real.

5963
05:07:49,720 --> 05:07:52,160
Speaker 1: But thank you for all you've done. Thank you very much,

5964
05:07:52,240 --> 05:07:55,200
Speaker 1: sir your thoughts on this and it didn't have to

5965
05:07:55,240 --> 05:07:57,040
Speaker 1: be so much about the Cowboys, but just you know,

5966
05:07:57,120 --> 05:07:59,240
Speaker 1: another draft. You've been doing this a long time. I

5967
05:07:59,320 --> 05:08:02,160
Speaker 1: mean you are a young man, but you know, still

5968
05:08:02,840 --> 05:08:04,680
Speaker 1: it didn't have like Dave said, it didn't have the

5969
05:08:04,800 --> 05:08:07,280
Speaker 1: flash that we've seen in you know, it didn't have

5970
05:08:07,480 --> 05:08:10,039
Speaker 1: the the up and round on the chaos and all

5971
05:08:10,080 --> 05:08:12,879
Speaker 1: that we've seen in drafts pass but right, a very

5972
05:08:12,919 --> 05:08:15,960
Speaker 1: efficient draft. Every draft has an identity, and thank you

5973
05:08:16,080 --> 05:08:18,600
Speaker 1: guys have letting me know be here and be part

5974
05:08:18,640 --> 05:08:21,239
Speaker 1: of this. It's been so much fun just talking draft

5975
05:08:21,360 --> 05:08:25,399
Speaker 1: for how how many months? Every draft has an identity.

5976
05:08:25,480 --> 05:08:27,440
Speaker 1: It really does, and you know, we'd come away from

5977
05:08:27,440 --> 05:08:30,840
Speaker 1: each draft thinking different things and feeling feeling good about

5978
05:08:30,880 --> 05:08:33,960
Speaker 1: certain picks. And I think with Dallas, the most important

5979
05:08:34,000 --> 05:08:37,480
Speaker 1: thing was that twenty seventh pick, getting that right, getting

5980
05:08:37,520 --> 05:08:39,280
Speaker 1: your first round pick right, and I think they did.

5981
05:08:39,320 --> 05:08:41,400
Speaker 1: They hit a home run with Byron Jones and the

5982
05:08:41,520 --> 05:08:44,440
Speaker 1: way the first round, This first round was unlike any

5983
05:08:44,520 --> 05:08:47,480
Speaker 1: other with the way it played out, two trades, just

5984
05:08:47,640 --> 05:08:51,680
Speaker 1: not a lot of surprises, and it still worked out

5985
05:08:51,720 --> 05:08:53,520
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys were able to get their guy, and

5986
05:08:53,640 --> 05:08:56,960
Speaker 1: so it worked out great. And then this third day today,

5987
05:08:57,280 --> 05:08:59,720
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of surprises. A few names

5988
05:09:00,000 --> 05:09:02,000
Speaker 1: at surprise went off the board. A few names that

5989
05:09:02,040 --> 05:09:04,239
Speaker 1: are left. I'm going through them. About the post on CBS,

5990
05:09:04,600 --> 05:09:07,360
Speaker 1: the top fifteen undrafted guys, I mean it starts with

5991
05:09:07,520 --> 05:09:10,720
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins obviously, but guys like Dres Anderson, Mike Hall,

5992
05:09:11,080 --> 05:09:14,120
Speaker 1: Cody Pruett, right Reestas Muke. So a lot of players

5993
05:09:14,200 --> 05:09:18,480
Speaker 1: still available that will sign contracts here tonight. But overall,

5994
05:09:18,800 --> 05:09:22,360
Speaker 1: another great draft. It's it's it's been fun. Yeah, you

5995
05:09:22,400 --> 05:09:25,360
Speaker 1: know my my impressions of drafts, right, you know, this

5996
05:09:25,520 --> 05:09:28,400
Speaker 1: is the best time to to build your team. That

5997
05:09:28,880 --> 05:09:31,560
Speaker 1: to me, the really the best time. I understand what

5998
05:09:31,640 --> 05:09:34,680
Speaker 1: free agency does you know are these players? I mean

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Speaker 1: you have to overspend, but this is this is what

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Speaker 1: your backbone is right here. And the Cowboys, there's no

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Speaker 1: h there's no denying that they got better last year

6002
05:09:42,640 --> 05:09:45,280
Speaker 1: because if they started drafting better, you get better players,

6003
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Speaker 1: you match up better in games. On a pretty good street.

6004
05:09:47,720 --> 05:09:49,520
Speaker 1: They're on a good streak and that's what they need

6005
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Speaker 1: to continue to do. You know what, what will McClay,

6006
05:09:52,480 --> 05:09:55,759
Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett, the scouting staff,

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Speaker 1: everything that they've been able to do to pull this

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Speaker 1: thing together. And it's a lot of work. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you don't realize. I mean we we sit here and

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Speaker 1: talk about it and we do our own little but

6011
05:10:04,800 --> 05:10:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, guys are away from their families and stuff

6012
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Speaker 1: like that. It's a it's a very you know, this

6013
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Speaker 1: is their their there there, this is their time of year.

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Speaker 1: And today being the third day, was the scouts day,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and again there's there's some players out

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Speaker 1: there and this thing's not over. I mean, you got

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Speaker 1: this draft. Now you'll have the second draft, and the

6018
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Speaker 1: second draft really is about free agency after this draft

6019
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Speaker 1: and you know, going out and maybe you do get

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Speaker 1: because Dallas Cowboys have done a really nice job of

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Speaker 1: signing guys that are free agents now college Fridge and

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Speaker 1: then having them make their teams and having success with

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Speaker 1: those teams. This is unlike any other draft. And I

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Speaker 1: say that with confidence because there's a big unknown down

6025
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Speaker 1: in our alma mater, in our hometown. Yeah. Uh who,

6026
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's something to keep an eye on.

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05:10:54,040 --> 05:10:56,919
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, if that check. And I mean

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Speaker 1: I thought there was a point in time where you

6029
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Speaker 1: would have haken him and and and maybe and again

6030
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Speaker 1: I didn't know the information. I don't think none of

6031
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Speaker 1: us knew the information totally with him what the situation was. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously the the the programs, the uh, the

6033
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Speaker 1: the teams got some kind of report, probably from the league.

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Speaker 1: I talked about, Hey, if it was me, I would send,

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Speaker 1: I would send. You know, Larry Wansley would have been

6036
05:11:24,440 --> 05:11:27,200
Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge two days ago trying to figure this out.

6037
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Speaker 1: And if you get the if it would have been

6038
05:11:29,240 --> 05:11:32,160
Speaker 1: favorable or not favorable, Uh, then at least you have

6039
05:11:32,280 --> 05:11:35,000
Speaker 1: an idea what direction you want to go in. So maybe,

6040
05:11:35,200 --> 05:11:37,240
Speaker 1: and again you know, who knows what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the deal is any more than

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Speaker 1: anybody else does. But if if he's cleared and nothing

6043
05:11:42,360 --> 05:11:45,840
Speaker 1: is wrong, I don't see why the Cowboys wouldn't be

6044
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Speaker 1: major players for his services. Well, and there's no I mean,

6045
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Speaker 1: there's no restrictions on that. You know that it's he's

6046
05:11:52,360 --> 05:11:54,480
Speaker 1: up for wherever he wants free file. It's up to

6047
05:11:54,560 --> 05:11:57,080
Speaker 1: him of his choice of whoever wants to him. If

6048
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Speaker 1: it once that thing clears, if it does clear, if

6049
05:11:59,000 --> 05:12:00,720
Speaker 1: it does clear, if it does clear, So there's some

6050
05:12:00,840 --> 05:12:04,040
Speaker 1: still some hurdles. So okay, well we're gonna we're gonna

6051
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Speaker 1: step aside here from our draft coverage. We were gonna

6052
05:12:07,000 --> 05:12:10,160
Speaker 1: thank everybody around the world brought us. Oh, we need

6053
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6054
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Speaker 1: had fun, had fun, Thank you guys, but seriously brought

6055
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Speaker 1: us this. This You're the heart and soul of this

6056
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6057
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Speaker 1: coming on as well. It was great, tiny gem always

6058
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Speaker 1: good to have you. But yeah, but brought us that

6059
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Speaker 1: chair since ten am this morning and every fan, everyone

6060
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Speaker 1: in Cowboys Nation appreciates it. So so thank you, very

6061
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Speaker 1: very very much. Well, thank you guys. Appreciate you guys too. Okay,

6062
05:12:45,840 --> 05:12:50,120
Speaker 1: what's coming up next is gonna be uh the wrap

6063
05:12:50,240 --> 05:12:52,559
Speaker 1: up of the uh with the press conference and stuff

6064
05:12:52,680 --> 05:12:54,480
Speaker 1: where we're gonna go off. We're gonna go off the

6065
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Speaker 1: air here. If you a little bit, just take a

6066
05:12:55,720 --> 05:12:59,400
Speaker 1: little break, make sure you still keep your computers and

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Speaker 1: brows all stuff up on Dallas Cowboys dot com because

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Speaker 1: then you'll hear we will have post draft post drafts,

6069
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Speaker 1: and keep your eyes on the site because the undrafted

6070
05:13:07,680 --> 05:13:09,520
Speaker 1: free agents are coming and that's a great thing about

6071
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Speaker 1: Twitter too, You mean sometimes you get yep, you can

6072
05:13:12,160 --> 05:13:14,760
Speaker 1: get these guys tweet out who who have them, who's playing.

6073
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Speaker 1: So for my whole crew here, for my scouting buddies,

6074
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Speaker 1: for David Hellman, for Dame Brugler, it's been a pleasure.

6075
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Speaker 1: Thank you. And for Kent Garrison, Lauren Sokol, Thank you guys.

6076
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Speaker 1: For Douglas. I know he's probably hanging out there somewhere.

6077
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Speaker 1: But again, thanks everybody out there around the world for

6078
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Speaker 1: being a part of this. Thanks again for always caring

6079
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Speaker 1: about the Draft show, and thanks again for always caring

6080
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Speaker 1: about what we say. We will be back with you

6081
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6082
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