WEBVTT - Oscar Nunez 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:17.159 M I Heart three D Audio. This episode of the 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.560 Office Deep Dive is brought to you in I Heart 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:34.519 three D Audio. For maximum effect and fun, headphones are recommended. Hi. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:44.640 I'm Oscar Ninyez and I played Oscar Martinez on the Office. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:51.240 Hello everyone, Oh this is a special one. Welcome to 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.280 this very special episode of the Office Deep Dive. I'm 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.000 your host Brian Baumgartner. Now, I don't know if you 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.880 have noticed, but do I sound a little different to 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:07.800 you today? It feels like I'm in your head right Like? Look, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:12.240 I am in your right ear holes? Am I not? 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.959 And now I am in your left one? Now don't 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.360 freak count guys, Okay I am. I am not actually 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.840 in your head today. I am using a very special 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.720 little device, the zoom h three VR audio recorder. I 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.200 have to tell you this thing is so fun. It 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:35.040 captures three hundred and sixty degree sound. So we're joining 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.080 I Hearts three D Audio campaign to try one of 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.600 these puppies out and to make it even more fun, 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.120 I have decided to come to my favorite place on 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:49.440 the planet, Tory Pines Golf Course here in San Diego, California. Now, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.120 for you folks who don't know Tory Pines will be 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.920 hosting the one hundred and twenty one US Open this 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:05.520 year June through the US I truly cannot wait for 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.800 that to happen. Um, excuse me one moment it is 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:17.600 my turn. Nailed it anyway, I'm having so much fun 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.320 here I almost forgot I have a job to do. 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.120 I have to interview today's guest. Not that he's a 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.520 forgettable guy. No, In fact, I would say today's interview 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:32.320 it is actually unforgettable. For better or worse, you decide that. Uh, 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.119 it is with my good friend Oscar. Noon. Yes, Now 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.960 where do we get about Oscar Oscar? Well, first off, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.760 Oscar is truly one of the funniest people I have 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:47.000 ever met. Truly, he makes me laugh harder than any 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.840 person on the planet, which is great, except it's a 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.840 problem when you're shooting a television show. Yes, he made 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.280 things very difficult for myself and for Angela to keep 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.320 it together back in the account. In his corner, he's 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:06.280 like a comedic communion, which is to say, he changes 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:12.040 shape and tone comedy styles for whatever fits the exact 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.639 moment you're in. He is hilarious. So when we're doing 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.840 these interviews, right, I was very well researched, and the 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.440 day that we're going to interview Oscar, I ripped up 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.880 the papers. I just said, this is not gonna do 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.160 us any good today, guys, because what we're gonna get 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.040 is what we're gonna get. It's gonna be funny, but 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.840 I don't know if we're gonna get any astute observations 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.920 unless Mr Nunyez is in the mood, because he is 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.160 very difficult to pen down. But I have to tell 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.560 you of all of the interviews I did, this was 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.720 the most fun. I hope you have fun listening to it. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.440 But either way, you can sit back now and listen 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.240 to me working my hardest to get a serious answer 0:03:55.000 --> 0:04:00.080 out of Oscar. Noon. Yes, and now while you're I 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:08.920 think I'm gonna go play some golf. Bubble and Squeak. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:16.120 I love it, Bubble and Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:27.080 cooking at every moment left over from the NATB before. Yeah, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:37.720 how it lost? Hi? Hi? How are you? I'm all right? 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:42.840 Good to see you. Hi? You guys? Is this it 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.360 is this? Where it's Yeah, that's where you set you 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.000 picked it up? Really well? It's a podcast, right, it's cute. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.039 It's a You're an Idiots a podcast? Yeah, it's a podcast. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:58.960 No video? Do you want to be videoed? Sometimes? Podcast? 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.760 Did you put on? You put on makeup? Just the base? Yeah? 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.720 Are we on? Because you're speaking the mic like ron, 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.000 we're on. There's no action, there's no starting. Would just 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.520 start like this, like go ahead, it's like Ken Kappas, 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.479 like Mark Maron does that. He just starts saying like that. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.280 Yeah that's how. That's how. Yeah, I'm like Mark Barron, Okay, No, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.040 we're just chatting. We're just getting to know each other again. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.159 What what brings me here? Yeah? What brings you here? 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.919 Why did you come in? No, I'm being serious. What 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.720 were you doing before the office started? First of all, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.400 you have way too many notes in front of You've 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.320 got like reams of paper like sheets. I'm trying to 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.359 keep the paper business. I'm trying to keep papers. And 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.479 you're taking this seriously and good for you? Good for you? 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.320 Are your parents? Would you try would you try to 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.880 take it seriously? I think I would ask to extent 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.720 look at all this paper. I've never used as much 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.800 paper in my life. I know what's on it? What's 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.520 Here's the thing that you have. You have four pages? 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.440 Why was this? Was? This was Andy Buckley? Was like, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:09.039 why he has a lot to offer? In what way? 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.280 He was? You know, he was the boss of the show, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.039 right he was? He was in charge, which makes him, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.719 which makes him important? Was he for the all seasons? 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.640 He wasn't? He came in later. It stands the reason 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.880 that I would have you would need more paper for me, 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.320 because that's the thing. You would think that, But that's 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.200 not the case. No, there's only four pages, and I 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.039 was drinking a soda and I forgot to bring it in. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.840 Can have one of your By the way, people, he's 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.320 got fifteen people working for him. Here, there's a booth. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.279 It's very professional everyone, it's it's lovely. I really, I 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:45.080 am taken aback. I'm sorry. What did you ask? What 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.880 were you doing? It was catering and I was babysitting. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.120 You were catering in babysitting? Yes, people let you look 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.400 after their children that at the same time, yes they did. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.080 I guess what. He's alive and he's a grown man 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.479 now and he's fine. So there. You baby sat for 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.760 just one boy, baby not baby sat for a couple 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:10.560 of families, but one particular family. Uh. And I'm still 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.880 friends with all of them, and they're wonderful. And I 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:17.200 baby sat him, like I swear to God, I think, Yeah, 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.400 he was little. He he had other people, but I 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.840 was the fellow. Yeah. He had two babysitter women and 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.000 one guy. And then we would take turns. And you know, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.400 his parents would would sometimes call me, sometimes call them, 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.800 but I you know, baby's has a kid for ten 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.280 years more or less. So you were catering. You were babysitting, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.280 but you were you were working in. Um, you were working. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:50.360 You were working in Uh, go ahead, go ahead. It's 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.800 like a play. And now I'm walking across the hallway 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.840 and I'm stumbling. Oh, oh, I fell you guys, I'm 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.520 doing Folly work. This is really sweet. Yeah, this isn't 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:08.080 a Foley studio though, and yet yet So you were 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:09.840 but you were you were trying to be an act 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.920 I mean you were. Sorry, I shouldn't say that. You Well, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.480 you were doing improv too, right, I was trying to 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:20.160 be an actor. Poor, I was. I was an actor. Yes? 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.520 Were you an Olympic? No? I was in the groundlings 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.800 were groundlings? Yes? And I was auditioning stuff. But but, 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.760 but my day jobs were catering and babying. I had 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.760 to do other things to support myself. Jobs were coming 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.120 in here and there, guest spots, stuff like that. Right. Yeah, 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.160 when you got the audition for the Office, had you 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.480 watched the British version? Oh? Yes, yes, and loved it. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:46.280 I thought it was great. Ricky Gervais is very funny. Yeah, yeah, seriously. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.440 I thought, we'll do the pilot and that will be it. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.839 We'll do the pilot. I wasn't that excited. I'm like, 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.920 we'll mess it up us being America. I'm like, they're 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.760 not going to do it right. They're not going to 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.240 leave those long awkward pauses. They're not going to go 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.080 for the awkward as you know, the long It's just 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.920 not gonna happen. So I was I was happy. I 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.240 was excited I got the pilot, but I was like, 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.400 I'm not going to quit my day job. Also at 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.960 that time, do you remember I'm sure that people know 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.640 by now because we've been off the air since sixty two, 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.000 so we've gone over this. When we were all cast, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.760 the lead wasn't cast yet. They were looking at the 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:30.360 am I right, bet my buddy Damon Jones, Andy richter 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.960 In and who else. There's a fourth guy that I 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.360 always forget. But all these four men are lovely ladies 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.560 and gentlemen, and Damon's a personal friend of mine. From 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.840 the Groundlings, they're all lovely, and I still thought, Okay, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.480 that's fine. But then Steve was working on something and 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.480 it fell through and he became available, and when they 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:55.120 said Steve Carrell is going to be the lead, I thought, wow, 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.040 this is now, this is special, this is like something's 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.880 happening here, because I was such a huge fan of 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.120 his from anchor mang and all that. But I really 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.240 thought I loved The Daily Show when John Stewart was on, 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.400 but I used to love Steve on The Daily Show. 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.920 And when we when he got on the office, I thought, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.839 we've got a shot at this because I think he's great. Yeah, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.280 And did you you knew Angela before the show? Right? 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.800 How did you know Angela? I believe from the Groundlings? 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.000 And I didn't know she got the job. I showed 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.760 up for work and she was there in her accountant's office, 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.120 and that's like an actor's dream come to I'm like, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:32.360 what are you doing here? She's like, what are you 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.360 doing here. I'm like, oh my god, Angela, we're on 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.400 this show. We're on this bloody show. What did you 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.840 think of me? Because then it was just you and Angela? 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.080 And then I was like, the new guy, weren't you 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.200 there already? What are there for the pilot? It was 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.560 it was clearly you don't have any recollection about meeting me. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.839 It was Kay Flannery, who wasn't there. I knew you 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.679 were funny from the commercials. I knew who you were. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.280 You had that the Deli commercial out, which was brilliant, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.640 and I'm like, nicest thing you've ever said about me. Well, look, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.160 I knew you were. I'm like, this guy's funny and talented. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.040 But I know how funny Angela is. And I'm like, oh, 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.120 they don't know how funny. They're gonna find out. They 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.080 must have known from the audition, but her character doesn't 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.319 let her be your character. Let should be funny right 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.360 out of the gate, and Angela and I had to 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.439 hold back until the show got up and and then okay, 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.679 let's let them be a little crazy. Now. Do you 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:29.840 remember um, Nope, clearly, not really, but shooting the pilot, 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.800 do you remember us coming in every day on the 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.400 pilot and doing thirty minutes of busy work. Yes, I 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:40.120 do remember that. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, just to 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.959 go back a little bit, Ben and Greg were very 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.320 protective of the original show and that was really cool. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.800 I remember him talking about, oh no, we're going to 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.800 have those there's not going to be a laugh track 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.320 and there's gonna be long, and I was like, whoa that. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.160 Plus Steve, I'm like, okay, here we go. And I 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.720 remember people people are like, they're such good actors just 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.720 and I'm like, well, you're sing like, you're in the office, 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.560 you're on your computer, you're you're doing something on the computer, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.520 and you don't want to be bothered by a camera. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.600 That's pretty easy to do. See, that's the thing. People 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.160 are like, where does the thing take place? It takes 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.600 place on a satellite, or it's a station on a satellite, 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.680 or it's underwater and there's it's the future. It's like, no, 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:22.480 it's just it's a garage taxi. It's a garage with people. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.280 That's it. It's a bar, that's it. It's an office. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.360 What are your sell It doesn't matter. It's paper, it 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.920 could be anything. It's the characters it's not where it 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.199 is a laboratory in space in the future and whatever. 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.839 It's just it's character building. Yeah, what did you used 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:45.120 to do when we were supposed to be doing fake work? Gosh, 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.000 I don't know. I would doodle? Did I bring a 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.800 book in? I pretended to work and I don't know. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.200 It was we used to pass We used to pass 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.640 notes back to each other. Angela still has some doodles 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.160 that I did back in the day. It was very 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.200 exciting to be there. So everyone has to just kind 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.240 of can you hear the card? The microphone picks up everything, 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.280 ladies and gentlemen. I was playing with a card and 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.920 Brian literally slapped it out of my hand because God forbid, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.280 I see I go the other way. I wanted to hear. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.160 I want them to hear like clinking of glass and 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:24.720 it's real, we're real people. You're build yes, but but yeah, 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.360 it had to be a boring workplace. And as a 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.559 matter of fact, like some thing's worked, and I remember 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.880 like some like the b roll the camera with scan 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.160 and some people knew they were being shot, and some 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.839 people would just act normal like nothing was happening, or 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.839 they didn't want to be shotting. Other people would try 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.280 to do bits and don't do the bit. Don't do 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.240 the bit right because it's it's still funny to see 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.640 someone just looking over and like rolling their eyes, like, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.840 what what do you want from me? I'm kind of 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.640 do some work. We were boring before the cameras showed up. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.199 It wasn't a pilot for us. We're office workers. It's 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:01.880 a documentary king. Did you bring anything you know, like 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.480 they asked us to bring in, like personal items and stuff. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.719 Did you bring anything in like like John had the 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.040 picture if he and his best friend. He didn't pay 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.000 me enough for that. I was just an extra when 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.280 I first got there, bringing something from my own life. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.840 Make me a regular, then we'll talk there. Looky, I 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.280 was there. What am I gonna bringing? You know what 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.120 I bought? I brought in seriously a picture of me 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.440 and my dog, Yeah, boat, and I had it on 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.480 the thing. It was there the whole time. It was 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.000 there the whole time, So I did have my dog. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:34.480 She passed away recently. Minister Schnauzer the best um Leela 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.120 was her name. She's a little black mini Schnauzer and 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.720 she was there in one of my pictures on the thing. Yeah, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.600 that's what I bought in um. The second episode we 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:51.600 shot was Diversity Day. Yes, it was fantastic, fantastic, not good, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.680 excellent script from a young seventeen year old. He used 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.520 to show up on his skateboard b J Noback. How 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.200 much did I hate him? And still do? He was 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.440 seventeen at the time. No, but he was young. I'm 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.200 saying that for comedic effect. He's so talented, is my point. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.560 He's so talented. That was a really good script. It 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.400 was a very good, so good it has in it 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.520 for me, one of my favorite jokes in the entire show, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.520 What was it Michael asking you what he could call 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:27.680 you that was less offensive than Mexican? Was that that episode? Something? 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:32.760 Something less offensive? God? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, he's 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.280 like Oscar and he was so serious about his like 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.640 Oscar and trying to be gentle. Is there something that 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.360 I can call you? Oh man? And he would flip 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.600 the chair around when he turned a chair around that 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.520 knew and everyone just had a hold bite their tongues 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.960 so they wouldn't laugh because he would That would make 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.040 him extra serious. So was it offensive for you as 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.960 a Cuban to have to play in Mexican. What kind 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.600 of question is that he's giggling? Everyone? Oh, look at 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.240 me with any questions, Look at me. Let me try 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:03.880 to trip him up. What if I said yes? What 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:08.560 if I'm like no? I mean, like, why, you know, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.480 what's wrong with being Cuban? That's my question. I don't know. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.680 I think I think why why was Oscar Martinez? I 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.440 don't know why they made him Mexican? I would have 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.600 been fun if they would have made him Cuban. Here's 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.360 the thing. I think it was because of that joke. 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.600 Oh right, I guess he could have said Cuban. I 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.680 think he would have been Cuban because we're in Pennsylvania. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.560 If the if the show shott in l A, there's 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.680 more Mexicans out here, but on the East coast that's 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.560 where all the Cubans were. But either way, the joke 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:40.360 is funny. It's it's ridiculous because Michael Scott got away 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.400 with so much stuff because he genuinely was coming from 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:49.240 a place of innocence. That's how a vapid. He's like, Oscar, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.280 is there anything less offensive? And he's like, no, it's 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.040 not offensive. And he's like, well, he's still not convinced. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.080 I'm telling you, I'm I'm telling you, I'm Mexican. I'm 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.200 telling you, Well, okay, if you say so, you know, 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.879 fe you and then and then you would hate him, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.240 hate him, hate him, and then something horrible would happen 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.280 to him, and then you'd feel sorry for him. And 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.320 then he'd reel you wing and you're like, oh, he's 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.280 not such a bad guy, and then he does it again. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.080 I think that was the circle of the show. That 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.800 was the circle of the show. It's a wonderful formula. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:31.119 Were you at the time aware people now everyone's just 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.359 gonna have to go to the bathrow. Well, if they 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.560 have to go, they have to go, We'll still be here. 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.400 Put hit your pause button. Can they pause a podcast? 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.600 You don't know if you can pause a podcast. Yeah, 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.840 you can write on your phone. People are listening to 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:48.040 this driving around in their cars. Whatever, right, Please, somebody 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.600 make a note to not ever ever use that um. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.080 Were you aware though at that time? Like, did it 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.720 feel taboo what we were doing? Did it feel like 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.360 we were doing something different talking about race in that way? 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.040 I love edgy stuff. I love not being condescending to 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:13.159 the audience. I like being an intelligent show. It's like 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.640 we didn't we didn't have to explain ourselves to the audience. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.879 And I think, I think if it's genuinely funny, you 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.520 could pretty much make a joke about anything. But it's 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.719 got to be funny. If it's not funny, I mean, 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.320 they'll let they'll let you know. The show was intelligent. 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.520 The show was very funny. It came from the right place. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.320 His his character wasn't he wasn't mean, he wasn't a bully. 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.040 Everything was organic. He there was a reason if he 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.760 was upset, there was a genuine reason why he was upset. 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.359 He wasn't picking on you because he's a terrible person. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.680 Something happened and he's like, I'm upset, and this is 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.840 how I'm going to act out. But there's a reason 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.280 why he's doing it. Right have you? Have you watched 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:58.160 Diversity Day recently? I I've never actually watched the show 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.680 per se, but I shot it. We were there, We 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.160 shot the show, Everyone went home, and people came back 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.120 and talked about and that's how I got my information 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.600 about the show. I don't like to see myself perform. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.960 I'm kidding. I watched there's the actors who don't like 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.280 to see themselves performing. I don't watch a lot. Do 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:21.280 you watch everything you do your self indulgent? I don't. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:26.879 I don't, sus I don't. I don't watch everything I do. Brian, 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.679 I watched this every Thursday went while we were shooting, 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.359 and then one time I went back and binge watched 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.480 the whole thing one time and maybe there were two 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.640 okay episodes there was. The rest were good or really good. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:45.000 I was so impressed. See, I still feel like Diversity 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.719 Day holds up like it holds up Oh that one, 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.040 yeah for sure. Yeah, but they all kind of do 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.359 a lot of Like I said, I think there was 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.159 two that I'm like, oh what happened there? But just 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.640 like one or two out of nine seasons, that's very good. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:22.080 M You know, one of the signature episodes of the show, 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:27.359 and certainly for you, was gay witch Hunt. How and 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:32.879 when did you find out that Oscar Martinez was actually gay? Okay? 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.000 I will ask that, but before I ask answer that question, 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:37.640 I want to talk about the people on the show 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.240 as people, not not our actors or whatever. Greg Daniels 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.400 is such a cool guy that I needed a way 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.640 out of the show so I can go shoot halfway 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.040 Home on Comedy Central because when it rains, it pours 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.040 ladies and gentlemen. And I was like in a dilemma, 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.160 and I remember asking Steve Correll. He was walking across 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.520 the park a lot and I ran up something like, Steve, 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:01.880 I love a show. I love being on it, meaning 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.040 the office, but I have a meeting with not meeting. 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.040 They wanted to do a show with Comedy Center. Were 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.360 past the meeting part Comedy Center wanted to do a show. 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.600 What what do I do? What can I an? He said, Oscar, 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.880 do everything. Don't say no to any work, do everything. 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.320 Figuring it out is not your problem. That's up to 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.400 your managers and agents. Say yes everything, They'll figure it out. 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.639 And I'm like, oh cool, okay. And Greg Daniels figured 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.880 it out. What a lovely man, what what a lovely 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:31.040 human being, Oscar. You get We'll figure a way to 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:32.919 get you out of the show. Go do your ten 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.080 shows or whatever and then come back and will fold 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.760 you back in. So Greg, let you leave for how 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:43.280 many episodes? I think a seasons. It feels like there's 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.040 a season where I'm not there. Yeah, you you were 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.320 gone for a long period of time when you were 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.080 shooting halfway? Help would he let you go? I had 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.960 to do ten episodes? Yeah? Yeah, so what was this? 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:58.560 Was his device for allowing you and it was fantastic. Yeah. 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.360 I don't know which came for. I think I think 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.320 they were going to make me gay anyway? Does that 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.919 make sense? I think so? And then they're like, oh, 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.240 let's make him get and get him out this way, 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:10.720 which is a great way to get him out. How 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:14.600 crazy that He's like, I can't work in this hostile 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.320 environment because this. But meanwhile he's like, I'm just at 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.800 play acting. I'm gonna go with my boyfriend and I'll 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.119 be back. You know. It's because people do that right 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:29.719 to get out of work. Really, wasn't he wasn't He's smart? Right? Uh, 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.440 here's a fun fact? Is it? Is it gonna be fun? 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.040 I don't know. At the time that you were out 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:39.760 at on Gay witch Hunt, your character Oscar Martinez was 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:45.159 the only l g b T person of color to 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.520 be a regular on any sitcom at that time? Were 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.359 you aware of that? And why didn't they have a 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:55.479 thing for me like a parade or an honorary something 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.800 I wasn't told or given anything. You were given nothing. No, 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:04.520 that's a big deal. That's a big deal. Yeah. Why 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:10.560 because it's the first one. I'm like, uh, like Barack Obama. 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.560 Not to say, like Barack Obama. I'm not saying your words, 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.000 not mine. I was the first GPT guy to be 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.800 out to being a serious person of color. Yeah, that 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.400 was both, not just one. But how do you feel 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:26.040 about the fact that you were that you're not really 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:30.000 gay or a person of color. I'm a person of color. 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.520 I'm a Latino, I'm you are. I don't see colors. Brother. 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.920 I I think it was great and whatever helps to 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.840 cause this is fine by me. I think it's great. Yeah, 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.639 well you won awards, right, that's how I planned it. No, No, 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:49.920