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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Ron I was asking you about sort of the vibe

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Speaker 2: that you felt when you first arrived. And the other

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Speaker 2: thing I wanted to ask you about was is the

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Speaker 2: old windmill that you mentioned earlier? It struck me it

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Speaker 2: almost seems to be a character in this story. Why

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Speaker 3: Because sometimes it seems to be frozen, can't turn it all,

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Speaker 3: and other times it turns somewhat independently. In fact, that's

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Speaker 3: where we did our first investigation. But let me remind

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Speaker 3: you that we came there with the hope of producing

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Speaker 3: maybe a fifteen minute segment, maybe twenty certainly not a

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Speaker 3: whole feature film, and write a book about it. And

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Speaker 3: as a filmmaker, you know, what I have to do

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Speaker 3: is sort of how am I going to How am

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Speaker 3: I going to get enough footage and enough other How

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Speaker 3: am I going to get enough footage to tell a story?

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Speaker 3: And so that's a whole different approach. And when I

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Speaker 3: got there, I had to look at the thing the

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Speaker 3: whole side and say, okay, well let's let's try something

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Speaker 3: straight away and then we'll come back and get the

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Speaker 3: b roll by b roll means that we would run

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Speaker 3: around shoot the in tiers of the buildings. The ex

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Speaker 3: terriers val a drone, get a lot of establishing material,

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Speaker 3: so we'd have that on hand. And the suggestion was

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Speaker 3: we should go up to the to the windmill and

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Speaker 3: do it kind of a typical ghost type investigation there

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Speaker 3: because you're going seemed to have the feeling that the

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Speaker 3: spirits of the Bradshaw were somehow lingering at Bradshaw and

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Speaker 3: they were behind some of the strangeness that was going on.

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Speaker 3: Well one other things. The first thing we did is

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Speaker 3: we went off and took a bunch of film of

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Speaker 3: weird footprints, you know, looked like big dinosaur prints, m

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Speaker 3: a strange purple rear footprints, including some some of course

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Speaker 3: of large vehicles that have been driving around, probably government vehicles.

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Speaker 3: So anyhow, when we got to the to the windmill,

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Speaker 3: we started asking questions that you might see, you know,

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Speaker 3: in a typical ghost investigation on TV. And we were asking,

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Speaker 3: is the simply put, you know, we're trying to see

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Speaker 3: if we can make contact with one of the relative.

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Speaker 2: According EVP, you're looking for EVPs. You were looking for an.

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Speaker 3: EVP mean it is a rampod you know, spirit box,

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Speaker 3: and we got a clear indication that Bradshaw is not

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Speaker 3: about ghosts. It's not about ghost at all, so forget

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Speaker 3: about it. And we pretty much did.

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Speaker 2: What was that indication? What do you mean you got

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Speaker 2: an indication it wasn't about ghosts. What kind of answer

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Speaker 2: did you get to your questions?

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Speaker 3: You know, you can you can interact for the red

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Speaker 3: by asking questions, you know, are the ghosts of the

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Speaker 3: Branshaws here? Please step in signal that by turning on

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Speaker 3: in one of the glowing lights. And whenever we did

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, it said no, no, there's no

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Speaker 3: ghosts there. It's not about ghosts. EVPs. We also used

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Speaker 3: the spirit box and everything said not ghosts. So that

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Speaker 3: made me, you know, as a filmmaker filmmakers saying okay, well,

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Speaker 3: all right, what's next? And so we went about the

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Speaker 3: rest of the daytimes our getting all our establishing shots,

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Speaker 3: and the plan was to come back at night, when

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Speaker 3: you know, the good stuff so supposedly happens. So we

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Speaker 3: went back into town and I called Tom Bratch Tom

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Speaker 3: Dono and he said you should be there exactly at

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Speaker 3: seven o'clock. And so I don't know why, but he

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Speaker 3: said that. So that was the plan. So when you

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Speaker 3: when you're going to Bradshaw Ranch, you leave, you leave

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Speaker 3: some gravel roads that if you stay straight, it'll get

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Speaker 3: you there in thirty minutes, almost precisely. You can't get lost.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's six thirty. I had a text. I

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Speaker 3: texted Jurgen, who was in another come and jump into

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Speaker 3: law who's who's exposed, big foot researcher, and paranormal researcher,

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Speaker 3: and a couple of crew, including a camera person, and

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Speaker 3: knew would be about seven o'clock. And as we continued driving,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden everything seemed strange, I mean really strange.

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Speaker 3: We were seeing buildings, lights and houses that we didn't know,

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Speaker 3: Have you ever had that kind of feeling all the time.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you live in Canada.

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Speaker 2: But you were seeing buildings that shouldn't be there, lights

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Speaker 2: and buildings they shouldn't be there, right, And.

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Speaker 3: So all I can say is that the the reality

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Speaker 3: was it was sort of not right. It was kind

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Speaker 3: we almost drove off a ledge at one point and

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Speaker 3: a sudden we were on the road again, the appropriate road,

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Speaker 3: and we arrived at at Bradshaw exactly seven o'clock. And

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Speaker 3: it looked like, you know pilots speak, for half an hour,

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Speaker 3: we were in this altered state of whatever.

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Speaker 2: In other words, you didn't drive there directly according to

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Speaker 2: your GPS. You were driving all over the place, back

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Speaker 2: and forth, doubling back, going all over and yet and

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Speaker 2: it seemed like what longer than a half an hour?

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Speaker 3: Time didn't make sense there. Yeah, so that's a classic

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Speaker 3: time slip. I can I can add to that story.

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Speaker 3: I did. I just finished a movie on near death

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Speaker 3: experiences in one of the best known people. It was

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Speaker 3: pmh at Water. So she just died a couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. Yes, I don't know if you know who

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Speaker 3: she is, but I total.

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Speaker 2: I'm familiar with the name.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So I told her about this experience that I had,

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Speaker 3: and she says, oh, yeah, that's a time slip. I

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Speaker 3: can control that, and I when I had my first

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Speaker 3: she had two three year death experiences accumulated in a

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Speaker 3: short period of time. She was told she had to

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Speaker 3: write three books. She had written two, and she said,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to write the third one and I'll use

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Speaker 3: this extra time I get to get it done. And

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Speaker 3: she actually before she died, she wrote her third book

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Speaker 3: and got published. Anyhow, she was a great lady, So

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Speaker 3: that was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Did everyone in the sorry ron? Did everyone in the vehicle?

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Speaker 2: Did everyone in the vehicle have the same experience that

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Speaker 2: you did?

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Speaker 3: We all did. Yeah, it was a group phenomenal. We

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Speaker 3: all knew something was really screwed up. This wasn't right.

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Speaker 3: Where are we? What's happening?

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Speaker 4: But I know you're gonna want some after hearing this.

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Speaker 4: This is an amazing story.

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Speaker 1: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine years

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Speaker 4: old now, was suffering with not just one or two warts,

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Speaker 4: but I mean a significant outbreak of warts all over

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Speaker 4: his body, so significant it impacted his ability to really function.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.

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Speaker 5: It was Tie's book actually that got me thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 4: It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can

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Speaker 4: see that it would work. And so at what point

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Speaker 4: did you see that there was actually improvement it's really

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Speaker 4: going to work.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

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Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller

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Speaker 5: and then going down to with just little red marks.

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Speaker 5: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's

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Speaker 5: you know one the size of the wanner. I thought,

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Speaker 5: no way, that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to

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Speaker 5: see him get into a pair of shoes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, how wonderful.

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Speaker 5: It's great to see him so happy and yeah.

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Speaker 4: Competent, absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Friends that have seen it, that is blonde Ti, this

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Speaker 2: The windmill. Uh back to the windmill for a moment,

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Speaker 2: because there are stories in the book of people losing

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Speaker 2: time as well near that windmill, right.

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Speaker 3: That's right, some people in fact, when the windmill started turning. CJ.

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Speaker 3: The woman who you know told us how to get

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, all of a sudden started spinning and it

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Speaker 2: What was the equipment that you took. Tell me about

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Speaker 2: the equipment and the personnel on your investigation team.

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Speaker 3: So, as I said, my son in law's experienced bigfoot hunter,

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Speaker 3: idle searcher, researcher, and he's done did a lot of

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Speaker 3: So he was he was quite fastiled with all the equipment.

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Speaker 3: And then I had a sound of a camera person

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Speaker 3: that we would go into the Adobe house and again

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Speaker 3: try because y'rega thought maybe we should try and contact

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Speaker 3: But by the way, Melinda Lovesley said that there was

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Speaker 3: a there's a well known bigfoot rooms around Bradshaw Ranch.

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Speaker 3: It's called Big Gal and Alan probably for twenty years

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Speaker 2: And we got or didn't you capture the big foot?

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Speaker 2: Did you manage to capture the big foot on camera?

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Speaker 3: We did not because we're watching Alan be in this

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Speaker 3: grabbed a picture of a big Gal near the main

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Speaker 3: He says, that's it, That's exactly it. And it's kind

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Speaker 3: line of a football team. Right, So that was really

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Speaker 3: cool for Alan to actually finally see a big foot.

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Speaker 3: But then we decided, well, time to go to the

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Speaker 3: the ghosty thing again. But at one point, do you

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Speaker 3: know what an SLS says.

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Speaker 2: An SLS camera, Yeah, yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: So we had a pretty simple one at that time,

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Speaker 3: and for the first time we got SLS stick figure

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Speaker 3: images inside the main building and that was really exciting.

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Speaker 3: One it popped up and sat on a on a

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Speaker 3: a dishwasher basin, and then we got another one sitting

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Speaker 2: What do you mean by a stick figure? A stick figure?

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Speaker 3: So the SLLS camera works by but hunting for it

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Speaker 3: was used for hands free by Microsoft Game System because

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Speaker 3: it detects infrared and so in the computer processes the signal. Well,

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Speaker 3: and it looks like a stick figure because it's a

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Speaker 3: human being. That's what it was designed to recognize the

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Speaker 3: person playing the game. Well, it wasn't it was it

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Speaker 3: was not accepted by the game players, and so it

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Speaker 3: kind of Microsoft's abandoned it. But people started reversing the

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Speaker 3: mechanism and use it to search for you know, potential

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Speaker 3: things that are living in the infrared that you can't

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Speaker 3: see with the naked eye.

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Speaker 2: A So it projects infrared light. This sensor emits an

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Speaker 2: invisible infrared light and then if the software thinks it's

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Speaker 2: found a person or an or or it's some kind

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Speaker 2: of a figure, it overlays a stick figure on the screen.

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Speaker 3: That's right. And of course if you're filming a person,

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Speaker 3: you'll see a stick figure. You're on top of a person, right.

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Speaker 2: And how big were these stick figures?

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Speaker 3: There were I would say more children like but this

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Speaker 3: is you know, the simple the simple one that's available

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Speaker 3: on your phone is not the full blown big time ones.

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Speaker 3: And that was pretty much you know, our investigation. Oh,

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Speaker 3: when we looked at the footage and we were walking

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Speaker 3: back to our car and to the crawl underneath the fence.

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Speaker 3: We were tracking. The camera was tracking Jrgan and Allen

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Speaker 3: as they were speaking and driving back. And when we

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Speaker 3: looked at the footage, there was UAP following him slightly

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Speaker 3: off to the to the distance. That was really cool.

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Speaker 3: And then there was another one kind of behind the

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Speaker 3: windmill and sort of disappeared off in the direction of

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Speaker 3: Sedona itself. So we got two UAPs and and when.

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Speaker 7: We got back, you know, back into the back to Colorado,

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Speaker 7: we think we gotta go back there and do a

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Speaker 7: full investigation, which is what we eventually did in the spring.

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