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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. A brutal twenty

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Speaker 1: four to twenty loss to the New York Giants in

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Speaker 1: Week six for the Ravens, the game that I think

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Speaker 1: everybody came away feeling like the Ravens should have absolutely won,

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Speaker 1: but it just didn't work out that way. Third uh

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Speaker 1: time the Ravens have lost this season, and all three

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Speaker 1: have been when they had at least ten point leads

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Garrett, how does this one stack

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Speaker 1: up in the disappointment measuring stick? Where is it? How

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Speaker 1: does this one come in? Well, the measuring stick. We're

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Speaker 1: getting a lot of use out of that disappointment measuring

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Speaker 1: stick this year in all three of these losses. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think what the one that to me

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Speaker 1: if I if I am ranking the disappointment, the Miami

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Speaker 1: one was the most disappointing considering the size of the

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Speaker 1: lead in that game just seemed surround. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: was at home. Um. However, what separates this one to

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Speaker 1: me is that this just feels like and look, the

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Speaker 1: Giants are five and one, so they've got a great record.

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Speaker 1: But that was when you look at the Bills game

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Speaker 1: and you look at the Dolphins game, Like when Tyree

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Speaker 1: Hills running down the field, you're still at least like, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's Starree kill. You know, great player, He's done that

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Speaker 1: a few times. He's done that too, just about every team.

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Speaker 1: I guess the Bills, You're like, look, Josh Allen, you know,

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Speaker 1: might win the m v P this year. They might

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl this year. They're one of the

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Speaker 1: best teams in the league. You know, with the Giants

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Speaker 1: game yesterday, it just didn't the Ravens bottle them up

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Speaker 1: all game. They controlled, They controlled the time and possession,

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Speaker 1: They far exceeded the yardage. They just dominated the game

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Speaker 1: and everything except points. And I just didn't see a

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Speaker 1: situation where the Giants were gonna overcome a two score

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Speaker 1: deficit in the fourth quarter, way through the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: And it's you come away from it feeling like the

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Speaker 1: Ravens were the better team. But yeah, that doesn't mean anything. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are the better team. But yes, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, better isn't what gets you into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's your record, right, Like the best teams

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Speaker 1: don't always make it, and the best teams don't always

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Speaker 1: win at all. It matters what your record is. And

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Speaker 1: the Ravens sitting at three and three and and you know,

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Speaker 1: they're fine, they're still whatever. They're in first place inn

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Speaker 1: Avecy North, right, Bengals are three and three. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: beat the Bengals, they're still in first place in NFC North.

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Speaker 1: But like, golly, it's just you know, what could have been.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of should have been what could

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Speaker 1: have been already this year. Certainly, you know, you can

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Speaker 1: say the Ravens could have been six and oh and

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be wrong, but they're not right and uh,

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Speaker 1: and that's frustrating to me that this was the most

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Speaker 1: frustrating of the three bar none. I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I felt different coming out of this one, like much

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Speaker 1: more agitated coming out of this game than the previous

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Speaker 1: two because the Ravens win that game nine times out

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Speaker 1: of ten. The Giants just, you know, I mean, their

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Speaker 1: whole offense runs through se Kwon Barkley. He had eighty

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Speaker 1: three rushing yards on twenty two carries. You know, I

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Speaker 1: mean defensively, the Ravens marched on them the entire game.

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Speaker 1: The entire game, I mean, put up four hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty eight just dominated the game, but just kept shooting

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Speaker 1: themselves in the foot until they blasted that foot clean off,

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Speaker 1: just finished themselves off for the death blow at the end.

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Speaker 1: And it's just like you know, and and then you

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Speaker 1: pile that on top of you know, this has just

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Speaker 1: been the storyline of the season. You know, these these

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter collapses, and it's it's that one's I think,

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Speaker 1: when you beat yourself, when you beat yourself. And and

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Speaker 1: sure you could say the Ravens did that in the

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Speaker 1: previous two games, you know, blowing coverage, let's Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: go for two touchdowns. Uh, then you know that hurts too,

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Speaker 1: but this one felt like it was even more of

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Speaker 1: a they shot themselves in the foot situation, just one

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Speaker 1: air after another. Yeah, I mean, look, I think at

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Speaker 1: I think they If you if you don't, if you're

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Speaker 1: not willing to admit that, that's reading all the Giants

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Speaker 1: postgame comments and all this stuff, oh my gosh, it

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Speaker 1: makes me want Yeah. But here's the here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean yes, yes, okay, yes they are they out

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Speaker 1: the sacks, they controlled the time of possession. But like

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Speaker 1: there is an element like part of being a good

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Speaker 1: that is very true. So like Daniel like like Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones didn't throw an interception, he did, you know, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He didn't find himself in a situation where he tried

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Speaker 1: He didn't have a he did have a strip sacked,

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Speaker 1: but that was you know, a kind of worth this

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Speaker 1: they didn't make those mistakes. They didn't the correctly on

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Speaker 1: third down to say, to basically win the game. They

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Speaker 1: weren't getting those types of penalties that cost you key situations.

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Speaker 1: And so yes, you can sit sit we can sit

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Speaker 1: here and say the Ravens are the better team, but

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Speaker 1: like teams that teams that go deep in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and when the Super Bowl don't do those things. So

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Speaker 1: the Ravens unforced airs, right, it's unforced airs, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: like there's a difference between a team beating you and

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Speaker 1: then you having unforced airs and good players, good whether

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Speaker 1: it's tennis player, whatever it is, good teams, good players

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Speaker 1: have less unforced airs, right. And the Ravens right now,

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Speaker 1: despite their talent and and so many things going well

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Speaker 1: but way too many unforced There's way too many and

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Speaker 1: and like, I don't know how many times we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear the word finish, gotta finish better. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear this. We're gonna hear that word a thousand

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Speaker 1: times this week. And here's the frustrating thing to me

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Speaker 1: now is like what does that mean? What? What? How

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Speaker 1: that's not working. We have to fix this in excess

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Speaker 1: and we can we can fix that. The run game

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Speaker 1: But finishing there's not a you can't practice finishing a

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Speaker 1: if it's a mental thing, if it's uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And at this point, like it feels to me like

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Speaker 1: it's become this self fulfilling prophecy where the Ravens get

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Speaker 1: was a byproduct of that was like Lamar knowing, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the back of your head, you know we've lost

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Speaker 1: these two games. Late in the fourth quarter whatever, this

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Speaker 1: convert this, we probably win the game. And the snap

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Speaker 1: And part of that, I think is that's just who

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is, right, He's just a guy who wants

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Speaker 1: winning field goal. We all applaud Lamar. You put it

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Speaker 1: what a leader man put it. Put the offense on

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Speaker 1: Makes a huge mistake, right, And so it's like this

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Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophecy of Now guys are feeling this from

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Speaker 1: And then when you do that, you make the ultimate

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Speaker 1: a lot of people love about Lamar Jackson, amongst many

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Speaker 1: parts of his game, is that he he he plays

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Speaker 1: many times and he does that, and but you know,

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Speaker 1: then when it doesn't work. Everyone's like, why did you

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Speaker 1: players like Lamar who play with that type of attitude,

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Speaker 1: how like the supreme confidence, it's really harder just to

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Speaker 1: Like you saw the same thing happen in the Chiefs game.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the Chief's Bills game Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is this a repeat? I just

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Speaker 1: watched this, you know, the Ravens, and he threw a

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Speaker 1: also the situation though, is kind of what I'm speaking to, right,

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Speaker 1: he had some roll aways when there was just nothing

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Speaker 1: get in a situation like that third and six and

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Speaker 1: even though the Ravens still had the lead at that point,

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Speaker 1: like you punt that ball away. Okay, obviously that's not

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Speaker 1: a good result, but at least you give your defense

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Speaker 1: a better shot, you know. But he's thinking, I think

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Speaker 1: And so it's frustrating. It just it just is it's frustrating. Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm with you. I think the other thing.

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Speaker 1: And this is like I've been saying this for a

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Speaker 1: in key situations on offense, especially in these short yard situations.

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Speaker 1: It's a theme. I mean, yesterday, it's third and one,

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Speaker 1: you have a first down to I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that would have it wouldn't have necessarily won the game,

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Speaker 1: but the clock was moving at that point, and you're

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Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday, Um, hopefully that gets him jump

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Speaker 1: started more. But no, I think I think if you

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Speaker 1: have Bateman on the field, then you're fine, And I

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Speaker 1: don't think they need to add somebody. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his health that its is. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I mean there's been a lot of buzz,

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Speaker 1: like I said, around Carolina, Um, you know the guys

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Speaker 1: on that team, you know, I think, like, uh, an

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Speaker 1: interesting one that I would question. This is not an

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Speaker 1: email like could the Ravens at a running back? Um?

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Speaker 1: If listeners are wondering, like what happened to J K.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins yesterday? Where were seeing the second half? Well, John

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Speaker 1: Harbor sta after the game his knee tightened up. Um,

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Speaker 1: We've we've spent some time talking about the MetLife turf

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Speaker 1: um this season, but obviously played two games there. Um

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Speaker 1: it's not great and his knee tightened up. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: was a result of the turf um, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: able to go in the second half. Um, so not

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Speaker 1: a big workload for him. Now he had Kenyan Drake

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Speaker 1: basically kind of have a breakout, breakout party to a

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Speaker 1: certain extent, and that was great to see. So in

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Speaker 1: Justice Hill should be coming back, Gus Edwards should be

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Speaker 1: coming back soon. Um, so you're getting some some guys

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Speaker 1: back in that rotation, which they need. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think they need to add a running back. No, running

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Speaker 1: game looks just fine. Look yeah, no, I mean really,

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Speaker 1: when you boil it down like I think the Ravens

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Speaker 1: have the players, I just I do. I don't think that. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're obviously playing well, I mean you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like we're talking about they have the talent I think

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Speaker 1: to be six and oh, and you're still getting players

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Speaker 1: back and they're getting stronger, like in the case of J. K.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins and in the case of Johnnie Stanley who was

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Speaker 1: played forced to play, I think it was all but

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Speaker 1: what eight snaps or something like that. Yeah, all played

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Speaker 1: all but eight snaps. Like, I just think that I

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Speaker 1: think the Ravens have enough talent. I just do and

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Speaker 1: um to be uh certainly a playoff team. Whether they

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Speaker 1: have you know, enough Super Bowl talent, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm always you know me, Garret, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: believe we're getting the dance and you never know what happens.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens weren't, weren't the most talented team in twelve

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Speaker 1: they went they won it, all right, Like, I think

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Speaker 1: they have enough talent. I just think that they need

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Speaker 1: to iron out some of these issues that we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and let's let's let's turn this a

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Speaker 1: little positive here, Garrett. Well, we got some emails that

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Speaker 1: can help do that exactly. I got one here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this one's from Christopher George and he says, staying positive

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Speaker 1: this week and what kind of he said, Stanley, Ronnie

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Speaker 1: Stanley did well, taking a lot of snaps. Uh. He said.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna lose games like this, now

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Speaker 1: is the time of year to do it. No one

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Speaker 1: wants to peak too early and be done when the

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Speaker 1: playoffs come. He said. We still have a lot of

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Speaker 1: players to come back, including our wide receiver. One were

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Speaker 1: shot Batman. Let's not forget, by the way, that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people entering this year said, I for shot

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Speaker 1: Bateman were to miss time. The Ravens offenses sunk like

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Speaker 1: just done, stick a fork and I'm done. Considering the

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Speaker 1: depth at wide receiver, and Bateman has been out for

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Speaker 1: two games. They won one of them in the offense

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Speaker 1: put up over four yards and the other like not bad,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um So he says, almost

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Speaker 1: all the rushers uh, and the gust bus you know,

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Speaker 1: all those guys getting stronger, says the Ravens still got

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Speaker 1: a long season to go. Let's make a Let's make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. With all our big players ready and going

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Speaker 1: at the right time. We can start with a win

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Speaker 1: over the Browns next week. So he's from Scotland, Thank you, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Bringing it from overseas. From Aberdeen, Scotland. Bring the optimism. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean I agree with this in part. Like as

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Speaker 1: frustrating as this is, like you know, we're through six weeks,

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Speaker 1: the this one really stings. But like as I said,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are still in first place. It's about winning

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Speaker 1: the division. I still think the Ravens are the best team.

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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are the best team in the

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Speaker 1: ANFC North. I just do. And they're I think they're

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Speaker 1: going to get better. If they continue to win division games,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win the division. And so this game against

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Speaker 1: the Browns is a really big one this week coming up.

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Speaker 1: It's a really big one. And if the trend continues

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Speaker 1: this season of win loss, win loss, win loss, win loss,

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Speaker 1: then it's a win. So they well, if if that

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Speaker 1: trend continues, then the Ravens won't be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's got a break that and eventually, Yeah, here's an

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Speaker 1: email from from Daniel against subject line relax. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: the fact that I've been waking up on the graveyard

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Speaker 1: shift in the ICU and the sleep deprivation is kicking in.

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Speaker 1: But considering that we're not as healthy right now, is

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Speaker 1: we're hopefully going to be soon and looking at the

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Speaker 1: schedule the rest of the way, I'm not distressed by

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Speaker 1: yesterday's outcome that compared to a lot of people, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. I feel pretty confident about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not disappointed and frustrated by yesterday's events,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like with the veteran leadership and the

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Speaker 1: talent of this team, we're going to find a way

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Speaker 1: and be playing our best football when it counts. That said,

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Speaker 1: watching the end of the Bills Chiefs game yesterday is

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Speaker 1: also clear we've got work to do to be competitive

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Speaker 1: in a game like that. So where are you guys

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Speaker 1: on the panic meter this morning? On a zero to ten,

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Speaker 1: I'm at of four. Um So, Also, just as a

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Speaker 1: good note here, he says, uh uh, he's he hasn't

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Speaker 1: heard any chatter from us about any seasonal beers yet,

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Speaker 1: which we're slacking on that. That's great at true point, Daniel,

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Speaker 1: if you're still hurting from yesterday, I had a nice

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Speaker 1: pumpkin beer, have a nice pumpkin beer this eating. I'm

534
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Speaker 1: like your ales that's had october Fest in my neighborhood

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Speaker 1: this weekend on Saturday and I had a nice Oliver

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Speaker 1: like october Fest Oliver Brewing Company. Yeah, they had a

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Speaker 1: nice october Fest beer that I would recommend. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the name is specifically, but it was. It was nice.

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Speaker 1: It's great, So thank you good good point, Daniel. That's

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Speaker 1: to keep the way, to keep the reprospective. Um. But

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Speaker 1: but but yeah, I guess, I guess the four the

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Speaker 1: four number seems right to me. I think that, like,

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Speaker 1: there are signs of improvement running game, offensive line, you know,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Stanley's coming together. I think the pass rush is

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Speaker 1: going to keep getting better as Tis Bowser and David's

546
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Speaker 1: job will get on on the field. So in the

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Speaker 1: in the secondary to me has made strides um, even

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Speaker 1: despite the loss of Marcus Williams. So I think that

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Speaker 1: there's some bright spots there. But like at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, you do you can't, you just can't

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Speaker 1: at yourself in the foot I'm watching, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: a I'm a Cleveland Guardians fan, So I'm watching the

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Speaker 1: Guardians against the Yankees in the playoffs. Yankees are a

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Speaker 1: better team. Yankees have all these home run hitters, They've

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Speaker 1: got a billion dollar payroll, they've got they're a better

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Speaker 1: team Indians or Guardians got a bunch of young, scrappy

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Speaker 1: guys who are hitting bloop singles and winning games in

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Speaker 1: the night thinning. So like, yes, you can be the

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Speaker 1: better team, but if it doesn't matter, if you're getting

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Speaker 1: the blue singles in the bottom of the ninth and

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Speaker 1: winning the game, it doesn't you don't get style points.

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Speaker 1: And so like when you get in these games, that's

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Speaker 1: all that matters is winning. But we didn't didn't. Didn't

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Speaker 1: the Yankees win, well they won last night, but the

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Speaker 1: series the final games tonight, so so but it should

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Speaker 1: not even be a game. It shouldn't even be a game.

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Speaker 1: Shoul't even be a series. But like that that that

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Speaker 1: ultimately happens. I don't know way too much. Um you

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Speaker 1: know where you feel like, man, that was this team

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Speaker 1: is better than that team, but for whatever reason. And

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like they were verse when the Ravens

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Speaker 1: were winning all those games last year close about we

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Speaker 1: weren't sitting here saying, well, they're not the better team.

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Speaker 1: I guess some people were saying that, and the question

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Speaker 1: is are they We had that a lot of Marge

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Speaker 1: a mirage, we had that on the question a lot

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Speaker 1: last year, the Ravens were not as good a team

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Speaker 1: as their record indicated through twelve weeks last year when

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Speaker 1: they sat atop the a f C, they just they

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Speaker 1: weren't that good a team. And uh, they are a

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Speaker 1: better team than their record shows this year. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's the flip side, exactly. So I hope you know,

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Speaker 1: it even out last year over the course of the season, Uh,

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Speaker 1: not in the Ravens favor. Hopefully it evens out the

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Speaker 1: same way this year and it goes in the Ravens favor. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Uh, we'll be back later this week. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna regroup, set our sights towards the Browns

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Speaker 1: and get a guest and it'll be great, all right,

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Speaker 1: and we'll all be feeling better by the end of

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Speaker 1: the week. Win. A win against the Browns would just

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Speaker 1: really improved the mood around here, I'll tell you that much.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you keep sending your emails to the

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Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you next week. M