1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, this. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 3: Is the almost Famous podcast. We're here today with Teresa 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 3: and this. We're so excited to have her on. We 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: have so much to talk to her about. I feel 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 3: like she should be making the headlines more than she 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: is right now because of some very big topics that 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: she's a part of. So maybe this podcast will bring 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: out the press. Teresa, thank you for joining us. 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, thank you so much for asking me. 12 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 4: I missed you. 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 5: Guys. It's been about half a year since we talked 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 5: to you, and a lot has happened, like the fact 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 5: that you chose not to go down to Bachelor in Paradise, 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 5: or at least we're assuming you chose not to. Is 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 5: this was your decision? 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of thought it. 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 6: It just wasn't really for me, and I really I 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 6: was so enthusiastic about it when it first came out, 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 6: and you know, I was talking about like who I'd 22 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 6: be interested in, and then I realized that I was 23 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 6: really just excited about seeing the women and you. 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: Know, having a reunion and having a vacation with them. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 6: So I thought that wasn't fair to make it about that, 26 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 6: and I really didn't want to go on and pretend 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 6: or you know, just make up something or make an alliance. 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 6: And I thought I'd be much better off just watching 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 6: it and enjoying Leslie being on the show. 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, it just didn't feel right. 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: Teresa, let's push back on this a little bit, because 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: that sounds like an answer that anybody would give that 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: have said no to going on a show. However, I 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: personally feel like everybody, at least initially is going on 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: feeling like they would have to fake it because you 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: don't know who's going to be down there necessarily, and 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: you don't know what kind of love is going to exist. 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: And let's say six months ago, when we had you 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: on the show, one of the things that we talked 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: about was your desire to still stay involved and to 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: be out there in the public, and you're trying to 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: figure out how to do that. The easiest answer to 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: that is go on Paradise, but you said no. So 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: let's take away the factor of you didn't know if 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: it was going to be right for you. Nobody knows 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: if it's going to be right for them, and really 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: dig into why did you say no? Like, what was 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: the real reason, because everybody's just going down there to fake. 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: It, Okay, so you think that all right, I don't know. 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,559 Speaker 6: So I've learned so much about myself throughout this entire experience, 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 6: and one of these things is that I have to 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 6: be true to myself. So that really is true for me. 53 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 6: I will tell you that so many of my decisions 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 6: I make with my daughter. And at first we were 55 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 6: both so enthusiastic about it, and then we thought, gee, 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 6: you know what, I've gone through such a journey where 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 6: maybe the public wasn't so happy about me, and now 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 6: I feel like, I feel like I have such a 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: great community and I feel that I you know, I've 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 6: got support. And I almost felt like I would go 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 6: on there and maybe do something that wasn't going to 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 6: work out right and wasn't going to come across as genuine, 63 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 6: but it truly was. I mean, I could deduce I 64 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 6: don't know who's on the show, but I could really 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 6: deduce who would have been on the show. And I 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 6: did look at myself against each of these people, and 67 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 6: I thought we weren't a match. 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 4: And I guess maybe I'm just not that person who 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 4: can go on and pretend that. 70 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 6: So there's something wrong with me, so I would say, okay, 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 6: there's and I do definitely but I do definitely want 72 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 6: to do things. And I just wish that it wasn't 73 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 6: the kind of show where you had to make a 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 6: love match where that was the goal of the show. 75 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: There's any other kind of show. 76 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 6: I feel like I would be, you know, welcome with 77 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 6: open arms. 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: And you should have seen that. 79 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 6: The whole journey was yes, I'm so excited, I want 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 6: to do this. I want to tell you who I'm 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 6: interested in. And then I went back to the producers 82 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 6: and I said, you know what, I realized that I 83 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 6: was just so excited about seeing these women again and 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 6: having a great reunion and more than anything else, and 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 6: I can't promise you that there would be a match. 86 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 6: So okay, now that you're telling me that that everybody 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 6: has this idea that they're going on because you know 88 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 6: they don't know whether or not there's a match, I 89 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 6: guess I'm foolish or naive about that. Well maybe too honest, 90 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 6: I don't know. 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 5: I told producers going into my first season of Paradise. 92 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 5: I was like, look, I am so picky. You're going 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 5: to probably have to like make me like someone I'm 94 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: probably not gonna like someone. And then today, a decade 95 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: ago today, I met Jared after saying that a decade 96 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 5: ago today, Wow, so you can be surprised. I definitely 97 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: had Jared on my list, but I wasn't sold. And 98 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 5: I'm listening to you and thinking that possibly you just 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 5: felt like there was nobody that was your type there. 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I yeah, I mean that that's really true, 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 6: that there wasn't anybody that. I mean. I thought about 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 6: each person who could possibly be on the show, and 103 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 6: I went through the whole machinations of having a relationship 104 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 6: with that person, and I thought it wouldn't work, and 105 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 6: I just felt like I didn't want to take that 106 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 6: person away from anybody else who may really be interested 107 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 6: in that person. And nothing against anybody who's on it. 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 6: I'm just looking at me and this person together. And so, okay, 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 6: so you had the same reaction. 110 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 5: Well, there were times during Caitlyn season. I only got 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 5: to watch two episodes of Caitlin season. Okay, So I 112 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 5: saw pictures of Jared beforehand. They were like paparazzi pictures, 113 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 5: and I was like, oh my gosh, ad this guy 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 5: and then watching him on the show, I was like maybe, 115 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 5: like yeah, interested, but not like oh my god. And 116 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: then I saw him at first sight and it was 117 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 5: like love site Wow. To be completely honest and very weird, 118 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: I was like, if Ben Higgins isn't there, I'm not 119 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: sure if I'm gonna like anyone. 120 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: I used to have the factor. Yeah, no, you still do. 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 6: And I had never watched Paradise before, so I started 122 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 6: binge watching it and I saw well yours, Ashley. 123 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: I saw your episodes on Hulu. They only have I 124 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: think seven and eight, and so I thoroughly enjoyed it. 125 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: It was so great and it was real love. 126 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 6: And that told me was they're looking for true love 127 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 6: and I don't know if I can get there, and 128 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 6: I don't want to fool anybody. 129 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: This is it's crazy and it's even you know. The 130 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: last time I was talking. 131 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 6: About doing the sponsorships, and since then, I think I've 132 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 6: done one. 133 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: I accepted one and it was. 134 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 6: Something I really believed in and I might be doing 135 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 6: another one. But I've been flooded with them and I 136 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 6: don't know. Maybe it's because I have a well paying job. 137 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 6: Maybe that's it that I don't feel I don't want 138 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 6: to do anything that I don't feel that's true to myself. 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 6: So this is a dilemma. I got to get over it. 140 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 6: I guess I give me something I need to get. 141 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: No, let's be clear, there's nothing wrong with you. That 142 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: was not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that if 143 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: we were sitting in the room and you called me 144 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: to say should you go on Paradise or not, I 145 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: would have sat down. 146 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: So there's nothing wrong with. 147 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: Your thought process right now. However, your thought process is 148 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: not uncommon to everybody else's. The difference is your decision 149 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: to make the leap or not, because I guarantee you 150 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: based on the names that we've seen down there, Let's 151 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: say the Nancy's and the Kathy's and those girls, they 152 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: were all going because they were so excited to see 153 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: each other again first off, and then potentially meeting some 154 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: of these guys to build friendships or possible love connections with. 155 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: And I think that Paradise is beautiful and that in 156 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: that way that it doesn't put pressure on you to 157 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: like one person or not. It also gives you the 158 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: option to leave or not once you're down there. And 159 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: I think having the confidence just to step out and 160 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: say I'm going to give it a shot is maybe 161 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: the difference here. I think you should have gone, Teresa. 162 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: I am sad that you're not going to be there 163 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: because I wanted to watch on television. But none of 164 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: this makes sense unless we ask you this question. Then 165 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: you answered, do you want to be in relationship again? 166 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't, then yeah, I would say, 167 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: don't go on Paradise. If you have no interest in 168 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: finding love again, this is the place for you. 169 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 6: I absolutely do want to be in a relationship, and 170 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 6: whether or not I'm in one right now, I'm not 171 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 6: prepared to discuss. 172 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: But gracious, I want to. 173 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 4: Make this clear though. 174 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 6: I got to tell you this, so really the chronology 175 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 6: of events was, I went through all the testing. I 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 6: was already there, and they took the guys, and then 177 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 6: I went back and said I really can't do it. 178 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 6: But then I actually went back and said, Okay, maybe I. 179 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: Should give it a shot. 180 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 6: And then I didn't get it, and then I didn't 181 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 6: get it. 182 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: Oh, the truth is unveiling itself throughout this conversation. 183 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: Your first answer made no sense to me. I'll be honest, Teresa. 184 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: When you said your first answer. I was like, this 185 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: that makes zero sense to me, Teresa, Like what you're 186 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: saying just sounds like fluff. Now we're actually getting down 187 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: to the real truth of the matter. You went through 188 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: the testing, you wanted to go on the show. They 189 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: said no, is that's what happened. 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I wanted to go on the show, and then 191 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 6: I went back to them and said I changed my mind. 192 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to do it. 193 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 6: And then I went back and said, you know what, 194 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 6: maybe I'm being foolish, and then they ultimately did not 195 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 6: select me. 196 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: They don't like a wishy washy if you're not in 197 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: that why I'm. 198 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 6: Going to say that that was the reason because because 199 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 6: I said I didn't want to do it, they said, no, 200 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 6: this girl's not committed. So I feel that that was 201 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 6: the reason why I'm ultimately not on the show. 202 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: But I think it was a great decision. I think 203 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: it's good that I'm not on the show. 204 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: And here's my response to that. It all works out 205 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: how it's supposed to work out. Yeah, It's like when 206 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: you you know, when you're trying to buy a house, 207 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: and the house that you want you don't get and 208 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, the better house comes along 209 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: the way. 210 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: This all makes sense to me. 211 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: Uh, the you were just gonna go down there and 212 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: you didn't think you're ready for love or not, or 213 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: maybe you were going down there with the wrong intentions. 214 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: That part, I'd say, come on, let you just go. 215 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: But you mentioned that you. 216 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: You're not ready to discuss it, but we'll discuss it 217 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: enough that you're comfortable with. You didn't go on Paradise 218 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: because of kind of going back and forth with them 219 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: and ultimately said, hey, not for us, that's fair. But 220 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: then you mentioned that you you might just be like 221 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: in a romantic relationship or dating now since Paradise started filming? 222 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: Is that true or not true? Okay? 223 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 5: How many dates? 224 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about you guys. 225 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 5: You guys give. 226 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: Really really probing questions. 227 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 6: Is I love that? 228 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: Okay, you don't have to talk about it any further. 229 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 5: Several dates? But you would you or would you not 230 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 5: call each other girlfriend and boyfriend? 231 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, not not yet. 232 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 5: Okay, that's fair. And how did you meet? Oh my gosh, 233 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: just last one, last one? And then we'll talk about Gary. 234 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, let's were with that guy. That's really why 235 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 6: we're here. It was their dating website. 236 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: So okay, okay, we're not here to talk about Gary. 237 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: We're here to talk about you, Teresa g. Gary is 238 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: just a. 239 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: Part of your story along the way. All of this 240 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: is connected to you as a person, right We as 241 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: a podcast and as a fan base, we're very excited. 242 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: To potentially see you, you. 243 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: Know, have a chance to find love again in Paradise. 244 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: Obviously that's where we started this thing. It didn't happen. Uh, 245 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: it is exciting for us. There's we're not there. There's 246 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: nothing negative that's going to come from the idea that 247 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: you were out there dating again and that you're willing 248 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: to even say that you've been on multiple days with somebody. 249 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: That's exciting for the fans, the listeners, and for us. 250 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 3: We want that for you. We don't want to see 251 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: you not find the thing you're looking for. But the 252 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: Gary situation is interesting right now because he did, you know, 253 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: announce that he is dating somebody new. And here's where 254 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: I get confused, and I'm just asking for clarity because 255 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: I have no idea what's happening here when you know, 256 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: he obviously also has made headlines for his you know, 257 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: health announcement that he came out with. I think it's 258 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: been probably five months that he's announced that he does 259 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: have cancer. That was something that he talked to you 260 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: about that you were aware of during the breakup. There 261 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: was a quote that he had that said that part 262 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: of your divorce was due to his. 263 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: Health concerns or his health status. You have came out 264 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: and said that's not at all the case. So where 265 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: is the communication coming in. I think listeners would love 266 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: to know and get clarity on was that actually a factor, 267 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: was it not, And if it wasn't, why not It 268 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: was a. 269 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: Zero factor for any zero Absolutely. 270 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 6: I was just so surprised that he even said that 271 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: I knew about the cancer a long time ago. And 272 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 6: the way Gary presented it to me was that the 273 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 6: doctor said that I'm going to die. 274 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: Of old age before this cancer gets to me. 275 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 6: He like bluffed it off, like it really wasn't that important, 276 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 6: and he had no symptoms and he still doesn't, And 277 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 6: so we never had a conversation that said, oh my gosh, 278 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 6: you're sick. 279 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: I can't stay with you now I have to leave. 280 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: That never happened. 281 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 6: So what he said in print in that article, I 282 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 6: guess it was us weekly or is it people? 283 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: It was people. 284 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 6: They interviewed him the day before they interviewed me, and 285 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 6: right before my interview they contacted me and they said, hey, 286 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 6: we want to talk to you right now, because Gary 287 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 6: just came out and said that his illness was the 288 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 6: reason you broke up. And I go what I said, No, 289 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 6: it wasn't that. There was zero conversation about that being 290 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 6: in it. So if that was the reason, it was 291 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 6: in his mind only never discussed and never discussed as 292 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 6: a reason. He said, it weighed heavily. It was a 293 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 6: factor that weighed heavily into my decision. And I would 294 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 6: imagine in Thereesa's too, he just imagined. 295 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: But it had nothing to do with it. Nothing. I 296 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,359 Speaker 4: would have never left. 297 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 6: My husband over in illness. I stayed with my husband, Billy. 298 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 6: I mean for years he was sick and you pissed 299 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 6: way at home. He was on hospice. I mean, it 300 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,359 Speaker 6: was really pretty bad. But I would never leave. That's 301 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 6: just not me. That wouldn't happen. So no, And I 302 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 6: almost thought, why did he come out with that and 303 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 6: say that? Now, why would he come out with that 304 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 6: as a reason, Because there was a reason given as 305 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 6: to location then there was a reason about that he 306 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 6: was sick and then he wanted to be home with 307 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 6: his family. That I think in the end, it really 308 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 6: just didn't work out. And the reason that it ended 309 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 6: so quickly really and I said this before, I would 310 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 6: have let it go on longer. I would have waited 311 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 6: until Jones season had a chance, you know, before putting 312 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 6: a damper on that season and making that announcement. I 313 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 6: would have waited. But he wanted to do it right away. 314 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 6: I mean, we had already made the decision. He wanted 315 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 6: to make the announcement right away. And I feel, Okay, 316 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 6: when you're young, maybe you stay in relationships that don't 317 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 6: work longer than you should. But when you're older, you 318 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 6: really learn that lesson that if it's not working, then 319 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 6: you give that person a chance to go find someone 320 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 6: with whom it really will work. And so I really 321 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 6: am happy for him. And if he had to find 322 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 6: his person by going this circuitous route, then he did. 323 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: Then it worked. 324 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 6: Then it was successful, and I'm you know, he found 325 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 6: someone that really suits him, and I that's wonderful. So 326 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 6: I think it worked out the way it was supposed 327 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 6: to work out. 328 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: As Ben says, I would have been so annoyed if 329 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 5: he publicly had said that one of the reasons we 330 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: split was because of my cancer. Did you confront him 331 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 5: about this? 332 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 6: It's horrible that I didn't. I didn't say to him, 333 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 6: why did you say that? And yeah, so I really, 334 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 6: I honestly do need to confront him about it. Why 335 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 6: would you say that? But the way the way it 336 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 6: read was that it was in his mind it factored 337 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 6: into his decisions, So he just assumed that it factored 338 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 6: into mine when it had nothing to do with it. 339 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 6: And maybe he just wanted I don't know, did he 340 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 6: want empathy from the public. 341 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. And that sort of. 342 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 6: Speaks to that to me, to say he wanted the 343 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 6: public to finally understand, to give some ret why we 344 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 6: weren't together. And he said, I hope this helps people 345 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 6: understand why we broke up. 346 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: It certainly didn't. 347 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 6: And when they interviewed me and my interviews somehow get buried. 348 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 4: His gets a lot of press, and. 349 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 6: I said, and I said, absolutely not. I was so 350 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 6: surprised that he said that that wasn't the reason. So 351 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 6: I've never ever said what the reason is. But right 352 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 6: now I decided to start writing about it. I don't 353 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 6: know if I'll ever release it. It might just be 354 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 6: for me, it might be just be my memoirs. I 355 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 6: don't know how it's going to work out. It's slow 356 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 6: going because I work full time. But I really I've 357 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 6: been watching the show again. I think it was the 358 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 6: show was spectacular. I think we made history. It was amazing, 359 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 6: and I'm trying to I'm watching each scene trying to 360 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 6: remember exactly what I was feeling and how this all 361 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 6: unfolded and how this yeah, how this happened, you know, 362 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: and it happened so quickly. 363 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 4: We've been on the show, right. 364 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 5: Think I've never heard of before somebody rewatching their own 365 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 5: season after the breakup. 366 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 4: I'm studying it. 367 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, really, I wonder if anybody. 368 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: Haska Kaylin's doing it right now, Ashley, Oh yeah, after 369 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: you're right after the breakup. 370 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not uncommon, Teresa. 371 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: Like an idea, you spend as much time as you 372 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: want writing down all of your thoughts and processing everything, 373 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: and you know what, give it the best shot. See 374 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: if somebody will publish it and pay you a ton 375 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: of money to put that book out there. If they don't, 376 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: almost famous, it will give you as many episodes as 377 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: you want where you can host this thing alone, or 378 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 3: you can get us to ask you the probing questions 379 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: that we ask we would get. We will get your 380 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: story out there to the public. So the offers on 381 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: the table if you want it. This is a platform 382 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: that is wide open for you to share your story 383 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: as much and as often as you want. Or you 384 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: know what, Ashley and I, over nine years of doing this, 385 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: have become very amateur mediators. And if you ever want 386 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: Gary to come on here with you and we sit 387 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: down and walk you guys through a conversation and pick 388 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: apart the things that don't make sense, we can do 389 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: that too, and hopefully at the end it's healing and 390 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 3: it puts you both in a good light. 391 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys don't allow me to be anything but 392 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 6: so real. 393 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 4: It's really it's tough. 394 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 6: But Gary's coming out with his books, right and my 395 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 6: biggest fear is that he's going to promulgate theories that 396 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 6: I don't agree with or things that I don't agree with, 397 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 6: and so that will be tough if that happens. I 398 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 6: don't know, I have no idea what he's writing. 399 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: I hope not, because you know, one of the things 400 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 3: in this world. And you know your breakups are highlighted 401 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: in a way that happens. 402 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: Nowhere else in the world in real life. 403 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: And you know, when it comes to breakups, there's the truth, 404 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: your truth and his truth. You know, it's always somewhere 405 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: in the middle that the real situation happens. You guys 406 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 3: will both have revisionist history looking back on that relationship. 407 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: You both will have rights and wrongs that you remember. 408 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: And so I think it is helpful, especially in a 409 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: situation like this, And that's where this question comes in. 410 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 3: How does it make you feel? Obviously, you just mentioned 411 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: that you stayed with your husband as he was sick 412 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: for years. This comes out and we don't know Gary's 413 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: intentions to why he said what he said. 414 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: You'd have to ask him for that. 415 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: But this obviously is read or the clickbait is read 416 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: as a way of Teresa and I separated because of 417 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: my health concerns, which isn't a great marker on you. 418 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 3: How does that make you feel as a person reading 419 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: that and processing it? 420 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 6: Absolutely horrible and for and I read comments about how 421 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 6: bad I was that. 422 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: Oh, I thought it was till death to us part. 423 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 6: Oh, she was only in it for the fame or 424 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 6: the money, and so it made me feel so so. 425 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 4: I was really angry. 426 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 6: I was angry that he would say something like that. 427 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 6: But then I am such an understanding person and I 428 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 6: can put myself easily in someone else's shoes. So I 429 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 6: tried to see it from his perspective, and I thought, Okay, 430 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 6: if that's in his mind, then I guess that's how 431 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 6: he sees it. Everyone has their own perception of what 432 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 6: of what happened. 433 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: You know, I know exactly what happened. Here's the worst. 434 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 6: Thing about it is that we really never had the 435 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 6: conversation that led to the breakup. We didn't have that conversation. 436 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 6: Things just happened, and I internalized a lot of it, 437 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 6: and it was just at one point that Gary said 438 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 6: this isn't going to work out, is it? And that 439 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 6: was the end of it and nothing, nothing was discussed, 440 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 6: and not one discussion about his being ill being the reason. 441 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 4: It's just I don't know, So I don't know. 442 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 6: You'd have to ask Gary why he said that and 443 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 6: why he put that out there. But then that's what 444 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 6: makes me get concerned about what he could possibly say 445 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 6: in a book, what he's going to say, I don't know. 446 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 5: Do you think he's always trying to look like the 447 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 5: good guy? 448 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: I think that, Yes. 449 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 6: I think he got a lot of bad press after 450 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 6: the breakup, and I think he's trying to get in everyone, 451 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 6: you know, back in everyone's good graces. And I don't 452 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 6: blame him, and so that I guess that would make 453 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 6: him look you know, he'd be the sympathetic, you know 454 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 6: person like everyone would be have empathy for him. And 455 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 6: after he came out and said that, so many people 456 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 6: I saw on Collins were asking him, how are you 457 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 6: how is the treatment going, and he's saying, there's no treatment, 458 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 6: there's no symptoms. 459 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 4: And he knew that. 460 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 6: He knew that, like, when are the symptoms going to 461 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 6: show up? Are they ever going to going to show up? 462 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 6: I hope they never do. 463 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: Hope he lives a long, healthy, happy life. 464 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 6: I hope what he said to me that he was 465 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 6: going to die of old age before this would ever 466 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 6: get him is actually what does happen. So don't use 467 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 6: that as the for the breakup. Yeah, it was never 468 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 6: oh my god, you're sick. I can't stay with you. 469 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 6: I'm like, God, this is horrible. No, there was No, 470 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 6: there was no conversation like that, so I was Yeah, 471 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 6: so I was so surprised, and I've never come out 472 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 6: with a reason, right. 473 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 4: I just. 474 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 6: The day after we broke up, I did put out 475 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 6: a post that said, don't cry because it's over, be 476 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 6: happy because it happened or something whatever that quote is. 477 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 6: And he was upset that I didn't win the Pooh. 478 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: Yeah you got a Winny yay. 479 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that question read winning the Boo Books to my son. 480 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: Now as this closes this chapter, and you know, I think, 481 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: for everybody's sake, you're obviously out there dating. He's dating. 482 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: The breakup happened. As you look back now at this 483 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: current place that you're in and you think about your 484 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: relationship with Gary, what's the word you'd use currently to 485 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: describe it a little distant? 486 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 6: We're not really, you know, he really does want to 487 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 6: talk to me a lot. I mean, he wants to 488 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 6: keep the friendship going. But I really haven't reciprocated, So 489 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 6: I guess it's it's me. I would say, Also, like 490 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 6: since the show, I've been a lot more at peace 491 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 6: with myself. I think maybe before the show, I felt 492 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 6: a little bit more restless, like something was really missing 493 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: in my life. 494 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and now I want more. Okay. 495 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 6: So in your mind when you're your age, you're like 496 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 6: thirty six, thirty seven something like that. Okay, so you 497 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 6: see an infinite road ahead of you, like you feel 498 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: like I remember thinking in my own mind, the end of. 499 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 4: My life is so so far away. At this age, 500 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 4: you see it closer, it's shorter. 501 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: But I still think they're infinite possibilities, even though I've 502 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 6: already lived more of my life than I'm going to live. 503 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 6: Most likely I'm not going to live in other seventy years, 504 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 6: but I do still I have a very optimistic nature. 505 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 6: I always think the best of everything. And so now 506 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: like if I'm gardening, or I'm picking out stocks, or 507 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 6: I'm playing with my grandsons, or I'm talking to my 508 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 6: daughter talking to my son, I really am feeling like 509 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 6: I'm living more in the moment, because when you live 510 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 6: in the moment, you're letting that moment last longer. It's 511 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 6: you know, you're when you're young sometimes and I don't 512 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 6: you're learning these lessons now because you have families, and 513 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 6: when you're young, you're thinking of the next thing, and 514 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 6: what's the next thing, and what's the next thing. I've 515 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 6: got to accomplish this. But now, but it's not about that. 516 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: It's about people, it's about love, it's about living in 517 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 6: the moment. So it's all that I took up golf. 518 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 6: I'm playing golf, I'm playing pickleball, doing things. 519 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 5: So that's great. Yeah, that's really good advice and something 520 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 5: I've really never really thought of. No. I it's because 521 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: you always think at this age, like, oh, I have 522 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 5: so much life, you know this to do that you 523 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 5: don't think about how you look at it or if 524 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 5: that'll ever change. That's interesting that you found it. 525 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 6: I think you're at a young age you think it. Yeah, 526 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 6: you think that there's it's never going to end. And 527 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 6: now at this age you do see it. But but 528 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 6: that's what the show is all about, that we still 529 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 6: have so much energy and so much life. And these 530 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 6: are women, you know, who kept themselves in good health 531 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 6: and did interesting. 532 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: Things and all my life. 533 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 6: I look on Instagram now and I look at women 534 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 6: who are doing facial massages. 535 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: I've done that. 536 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 6: I've been doing it since I'm thirty years old. I 537 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 6: do facial exercises, I massage my face. But it's been 538 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 6: going on since I'm a really young person, so I 539 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 6: could tell you that it works. And so you know, 540 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 6: this is a whole world that opened up for me. 541 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 6: I have I walk down the street, people know me, 542 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 6: they say hello. It's a it's a nice new experience 543 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 6: for me. Not that I love the fame, but I 544 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 6: love the fact that now there's a community and a 545 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 6: connection and I connect more with people. And why didn't 546 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 6: I do that before when I just walked down the 547 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 6: street and strike up conversations with people. And I will 548 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 6: tell you, I'm having two of the Golden Women come 549 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 6: to my home this year, separately to different visitors, and 550 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 6: then I'm going to visit Leslie again. So I'm going 551 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 6: to be doing some things. 552 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: There's good things. 553 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: Teresa came from the show, and I think one of 554 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: the biggest benefits of the Golden is that we saw 555 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 3: friendships form at this golden age of life, and we 556 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: saw this energy and excitement expressed for this golden age 557 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 3: of life. And I think that is something to be 558 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: so proud of. You have a lot of things to 559 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 3: be proud of. 560 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: You know this. 561 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 3: When we were planning for this earlier, this question was 562 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: coming from a different place. But you aren't willing to 563 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: discuss and detail your current relationship even though you're dating. 564 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: And so I I'm going to. 565 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: Ask these questions like you're completely single, and you answer 566 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: them how you want. Okay, But we do have another 567 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: Golden season coming up. It was the Golden Bachelor. It's 568 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: actually other than Paradise, the only bachelor show that has 569 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: been confirmed to be going to be on air at 570 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 3: some point in the next year, which is a wild 571 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: thought to think about. But Mel was announced as the 572 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor. I want to hear your thoughts after kind 573 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: of seeing him announce. I know there is probably a 574 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: tech stread with some of the ladies from the show. 575 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: What are some of their thoughts. What's the general consensus 576 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: of Mel. 577 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 6: He's very good looking, he's hot, He's got a lot 578 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 6: going on for him. Everybody thinks he is attractive. I 579 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 6: think he's great, you know what. I have the feeling, 580 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 6: and I don't know if I'm right. I have no 581 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 6: idea that the women will generally be younger and that 582 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 6: there will be nobody who's my age on the show. 583 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 6: That's what I think. 584 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 5: Good. No, you mean you were on the older side 585 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 5: because you said you're seventy now you're what you're seventy 586 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 5: something now seventy. 587 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 4: Two in August. But the age range. 588 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 6: Was that you had to be at least sixty five. 589 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 6: But then they expanded it because they couldn't find enough 590 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 6: of women at that age range, so they went down 591 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 6: to sixty. 592 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 5: Oh interesting tidbit did not know that, ye, so then it. 593 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: Was there were ten women who were sixty. 594 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 6: And I remember, like when I have my hometowns, I 595 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 6: was telling my sisters, I go, I'm competing with sixty 596 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 6: year old's, like you know, and that seems that older 597 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 6: everybody else that I was seventy. I had just turned 598 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 6: seventy and now it's been so long. 599 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: Now I'm going to be seventy eighty two. So that's what. 600 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 6: I imagine that it will be. And I hope, I 601 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: don't know, will he find somebody who's in his state. 602 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 6: Maybe that's going to happen. Maybe they'll find more women 603 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 6: closer to him. I don't know, but that's what I'm anticipating. 604 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 6: I'm really I look forward to it so much. I mean, 605 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 6: of course, I'm looking forward to Paradise so much, that's 606 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 6: the first thing. 607 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: But I do that's what. 608 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 6: My I'm imagining that the age range will be younger, 609 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 6: that they're going to skew it younger. 610 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: And also because his wife was much younger, So that makes. 611 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 5: Me think that how much do you think it'll be 612 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 5: a different season because he was divorced and not a 613 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 5: widow or a widow or yeah. 614 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: So different, way different. I think that was the main 615 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: thing of the show. 616 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 6: I mean, the show had so much heart because Gary 617 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 6: was so sad all the time and he cried so much, 618 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 6: and so the difference is going to be that I 619 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 6: don't think we're going to find somebody crying all the time, 620 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 6: So I think it will be more maybe more like 621 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 6: a young traditional bachelor type show than an older one. 622 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 6: I think they played on and I think the show 623 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 6: was so well done. They played on the fact that 624 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 6: he was older, that he lost his wife, so it 625 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 6: was a lot of sympathy for the main character, and 626 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 6: that played heavily into it. And who would have known 627 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 6: that Gary was going to cry so often that he 628 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 6: cried he I guess I don't know if he knew 629 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 6: that he was going to cry that much. So I 630 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 6: think it'll be I don't really know mel that well. 631 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 4: I don't know him at all. 632 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: Oh that well interesting. Do you have you spoken to him? 633 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 6: No? 634 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 4: No, no, I don't know him at all. 635 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 6: I don't know. 636 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: Then, I don't know. 637 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 6: I think it's going to be going from one that's 638 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 6: very emotional to not because what are you going to do? 639 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 6: Go back to his wife and look at his wife 640 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 6: these divorce that. I don't think that's going to happen. 641 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: But maybe there will be women who have lost their. 642 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 6: Spouses and maybe back in the emotion into it, because yeah, 643 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 6: and that will drop people in. 644 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 5: Is there anybody from your season or is currently down 645 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 5: in Paradise that you could see joining his season because 646 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: they're so attracted to him? 647 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, sure, yeah I did. Oh. 648 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to name names. I don't want to 649 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 4: put anybody on the spot, but yeah, I would think that. 650 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 6: I think that any of the women who are not 651 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 6: attached would love to be on the show. 652 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 4: That would Yeah, would they ever do that? 653 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 5: Especially with the they did it with Ben right back? 654 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I had two girls from a previous 655 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: season on Ben's. 656 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 4: Oh okay, they do it. 657 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: This would be exciting to see people get a second 658 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: chance at love. Damn teresays, we close up with you 659 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: here Paradise is obviously going to be airing here coming 660 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: up soon. Do you have I'm gonna kind of rapid 661 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: fire some questions at you. First off, you have fomo, 662 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: the fear of missing out as this show begins to 663 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: air and you were not there. 664 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 6: I'm waiting to see it start, and I think then 665 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 6: that's when I'll know whether or not I have fomo. 666 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I probably have a bit of it. I probably do. 667 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 6: And once I see, Okay, it wasn't as bad as 668 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 6: I thought it was, you don't really have to fall 669 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 6: in love. If that really happens where you don't really 670 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 6: have to fall in love with anybody, I'll say, oh, darn, 671 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 6: I should have done it. Why did I told them 672 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 6: I didn't want to do this? So and that's the thing, like, 673 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 6: I want to be clear. In the end they said 674 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 6: no to me. But was it because I said I 675 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 6: don't want to do it? 676 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't do that now. 677 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: If there's a dream relationship, uh, it's it's not a 678 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: secret kind of who's been down there? Yeah, but we 679 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: don't have to confirm or deny anybody that you know 680 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: being down there. But if there's like a dream golden relationship, 681 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: who would that be for you based on the people 682 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: that we think would people that. 683 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 4: Would be down there. Yeah, mmm, maybe Keith and Leslie. 684 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe. 685 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 5: Oh, Keith and Leslie. Well, I would imagine that you 686 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 5: would have heard from Leslie they wrapped filming. 687 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 6: Okay, I heard from Leslie, but I asked her nothing. Okay, 688 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 6: I expected the NDA and sus I want to be surprised. 689 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: I didn't ask her anything, so I really don't know. 690 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 5: But you didn't ask her whether she found someone? 691 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 4: No, I didn't. 692 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 6: Gracious, I know because I know the sign NDA's I 693 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 6: don't want her to get in trouble, and I really 694 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 6: wanted to just be surprised about it. And you know, 695 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 6: I of course always want her to be extremely happy 696 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 6: and to wish the best for her. So I hope 697 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 6: that happened for her. That would be amazing. So that's 698 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 6: my skepticism going into it. So just you can hold 699 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 6: me to this that I would think that there wouldn't 700 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 6: be any any love relationships among these people. That's that's 701 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 6: how I feel. But I want to be proven wrong. 702 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 6: I want someone to say, I want to see that 703 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 6: I'm wrong. No, you're you're wrong, Teresa. There is these 704 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 6: two people got together. They're absolutely in love. They're together, 705 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 6: and wow, I'd be so happy for them. So yeah, 706 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 6: and so I probably shouldn't have admitted that, but that's 707 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 6: how I feel, and that's that was part of me 708 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 6: thinking that I shouldn't go on the show. 709 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 5: My final question for you is do you see any 710 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: of the age gap really relationships happening? Because Jesse and 711 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 5: Wells said in the headline yesterday that they would be 712 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 5: interested to see that, and they obviously know what actually happened. 713 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 4: Well, so I know. 714 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 6: There is probably one person on the show that I 715 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 6: think might have an age gap relationship. But do I 716 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 6: I think that they would probably respect the different ages 717 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 6: and not want to tamper with the young people because 718 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 6: they would want to leave the young men to the 719 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 6: young women. But if anybody's going to do would be April. 720 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, thank you, that's not shocking, right, April. 721 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: We could see doing it. 722 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 6: She's got the young spirit, she's got this very fairy 723 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 6: tale like spirit, and you know, if anyone would do it, 724 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 6: and I don't know, is that do you think it's 725 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 6: going to happen? Do you think they're going to cross lines? 726 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: Do I think they're going to do it, Yes, because 727 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: I think the host of the show and the bartender, 728 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: you know, co host of the show wells, when they 729 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: come out with a statement like this, it's foreshadowing something 730 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: to happen in the future. I think it's the only 731 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: reason they say what they said. 732 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: Uh. It gets people talking. So yes, I think they're 733 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 2: going to do it. 734 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 3: I think we're going to see age gap relationships happen 735 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: in Paradise. 736 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: Will the fans like it? I don't know. 737 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 6: Well, okay, that's exciting. 738 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 4: I didn't think that we should have a bet on that. 739 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: I don't think it'll be serious. I think there might 740 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 5: be one date. 741 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 6: This is my Okay, maybe that'll happen. It's exciting. I 742 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 6: can't wait to see it. I'm sure you can't wait either. 743 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: Well, Teresa, Yes, we are excited for the season. We 744 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 5: wish we could have seen you down there, but until 745 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 5: until we see you again, we wish you the best. 746 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 5: That this new boy boy something something goes well. Thank you, 747 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 5: and we hope that Gary's book doesn't you know, it 748 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 5: doesn't reveal too much. 749 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: All right, thank you so much. I love you guys. 750 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 4: You're the best. 751 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: Yes, and you know what I want to tell you this, 752 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: when options and opportunities come up, don't let fear of 753 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: the unknown get in your way. Next time, paradise happens. 754 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 3: And if you're single, I hope this relationship flourishes for you. 755 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 3: Say yes, you should do it. 756 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 6: That was what was said to me by the producer. Well, 757 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 6: if you're not interested in this year, keep it in 758 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 6: mind for next year. So thank you. 759 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 4: I appreciate yes, appreciate you coming. 760 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: This has been the almost famous podcast with Teresa Nist. 761 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 3: Great episode, great interview. I think you can read between 762 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: the lines Ashley and a lot of what was said 763 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 3: and pick up on a lot of things that maybe 764 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 3: weren't communicated, but you can kind of hear. That's why 765 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 3: I pushed you at the beginning and say, hey, this 766 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: this doesn't feel like a real answer. This feels like 767 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 3: a fake answer, feels like an answer that you thought 768 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 3: about giving us, and that we probably just sit here 769 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: and be like, oh, okay, yeah that makes sense. 770 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't make sense. 771 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: Why don't you go Well, we found out she's dating 772 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 3: somebody the show actually said no to her after she 773 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: flip five back and forth, and that she still has 774 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 3: this kind of internal desire to be in paradise, but 775 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 3: fear got in the way. I hope for her nothing 776 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 3: but great things moving forward. I also hope for her 777 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: that she does come back on the Almost Famous podcast 778 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: and explain the whole story of the Gary breakup, because 779 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: it sounds like there's. 780 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 2: More than we know. 781 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 6: Oh. 782 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 5: She has now for two podcasts alluded to there being 783 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 5: one specific thing that she will not reveal, and if 784 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 5: Gary does reveal it in his book, which I would 785 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 5: imagine the publisher will want him to do, she I 786 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: feel confident, might come to us and give her a 787 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 5: side of the story. 788 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 3: It would be so fun. Well, hey, until next time, 789 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 3: I've been Been, I've Been Ashley. 790 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: Siya Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts 791 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.