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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's I Do Part two and I am

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Speaker 1: one of your celebrity mentors, Jennifer Bessler. You know me

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Speaker 1: from the Real Housewives of New Jersey and today I

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Speaker 1: am coming to you from the gorgeous Lake Tahoe, where

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by some incredible golden women. These ladies are

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Speaker 1: living proof that life only gets better and more fulfilling

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Speaker 1: as you get older. From The Golden Bachelor, it's Teresa

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Speaker 1: Niss Hello. And from The Golden Bachelor and this season

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Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise, it's Leslie Fema.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: A you guys, We're so happy welcome. Not as happy

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Speaker 1: as I am to have you. I I'm a little obsessed,

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Speaker 1: but I also I do want to let everyone know

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Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe. And I want everyone to know that because

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Speaker 1: now this is my absolute destination. How gorgeous is it here?

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely I'm bringing my kids here. I mean, who

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Speaker 3: knew I was always a peach person? Yes, and the

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Speaker 3: way that like they're what they're facing, they're the mould eggs.

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Speaker 2: We're blown away?

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, are actually used to good views though you've

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Speaker 1: been to several paradise situations.

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Speaker 1: So you guys, I also want our listeners to know

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Speaker 1: that we are at a pickleball tournament, which seems to

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Speaker 1: write is reflected reflected, I do not play pickleball. I

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Speaker 1: rather would lay out by the pool, hence the non pickle.

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Speaker 2: Entire.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's not my things. But so you both are

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Speaker 1: partnered up for the tournament, right, you had a game

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Speaker 1: plan going into this.

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Speaker 3: Well, actually, Teresa was in Minneapolis a couple weeks ago

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Speaker 3: and we did play. We played with two of my

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Speaker 3: friends and we did really well.

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Speaker 2: I think we're a good team.

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Speaker 1: Do we name the team? Is there a name?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 1: I the hottest of the back, the hottest of the Golden,

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Speaker 1: the Hottest.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: Although I actually love a few of you guys this show.

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Speaker 1: I loved so much watching The Golden Bachelor and the

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Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette and now Bachelor in Paradise, I have to

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Speaker 1: say I feel like I was waiting and waiting for

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Speaker 1: them to, you know, finally recognize that there are women

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Speaker 1: on that are walking this world who are not twenty

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Speaker 1: and one hundred and ten pounds and hot. And there

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Speaker 1: are women that are even hotter because they are older

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Speaker 1: and smarter and wiser.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I have been really happy, not that they give

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Speaker 1: what I think, but the fact that The Bachelor, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm really glad that they are acknowledging women our age

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Speaker 3: and men our age as well.

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Speaker 2: You know that that's huge.

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Speaker 4: We feel like we're finally showing the world what has

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Speaker 4: a has been that when you're at this age you

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Speaker 4: still have so much love and life to give.

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Speaker 1: So a man's sister, Yeah, what are the what is

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Speaker 1: the age range getting on the show? Is they take?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Well, for our show, it was sixty and up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it started, so I got three more years

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Speaker 1: Jeff Ussler before I get it. Just kidding, just kidd it, okay,

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Speaker 3: I was sixty five when I was on, so I was,

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Speaker 3: but there were there were a lot of women that

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Speaker 2: I turned seventy the night that show. It was her birthdayes, Well,

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Speaker 2: you are not very am She's amazing, No, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, it's just it is really incredible. I mean, with

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Speaker 1: I can't it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes we're like, are we dressing all right?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Plenty of people tell us we're not dressing. We don't care.

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Speaker 2: You get that really? Okay, yes, we get that. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a big cursor, so please forgive me.

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Speaker 3: But them, I know, I mean it's I don't really

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Speaker 3: to it his very own. Yeah, ever makes you exactly

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Speaker 3: anyone else exactly?

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Speaker 1: This is what makes in my view, older women hotter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's I mean.

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Speaker 3: And also like, as long as my kids don't go,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, mom, what are you wearing? Then I'm okay.

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Speaker 3: You know, like if they did say that to me,

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, all right, maybe I'd better take this off.

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Speaker 2: But they don't.

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Speaker 1: Well, my kids do say it to me, and I say,

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Speaker 1: stay in your please stay in your exactly that way I.

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Speaker 2: Tend to my daughter to send me straight. Is this wrong?

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Speaker 2: Is I like that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm I don't listen to them at all. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: moving on, So, Leslie, I am enthralled by Bachelor in

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Speaker 1: Paradise and what is going on with you? So let's

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Speaker 1: just kind of first start out there. Okay, so talk

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Speaker 1: to me about you and Gary. You guys had such

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Speaker 1: a nice moment on the beach. I have to say.

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Speaker 1: I saw him obviously on the Bachelorette. What a doll

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Speaker 1: of a man, I mean, just sugar, right, yeah, is

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Speaker 1: he's so sweet. He just seems so warm and wonderful.

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Speaker 1: So tell me about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing is I hadn't met Gary at all,

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Speaker 3: and some of the other people did things and they

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Speaker 3: they were they announced us on the finale of Grant's season.

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Speaker 2: So I walked into the green room.

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Speaker 3: It's the first time I met Gary, and I walk

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Speaker 3: in and he is just larger than light really, and

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Speaker 3: you know, he's so kind, and we became fast friends,

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Speaker 3: coming to Paraguis, And so we were the two people

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think, you know, I mean, we didn't really

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Speaker 3: two months before we were going, and so when I

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Speaker 3: And then he gets this day card and it's dancing,

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Speaker 3: and so he decided to take me on the date

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Speaker 3: and I was thrilled and we had the best time

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Speaker 3: they're all outside, and we danced in the rain.

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Speaker 2: I kicked my shoes off. We had so much fun.

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Speaker 1: We were so good partners. You guys were like, you're

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Speaker 2: Serious. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I, first of all, I dance, but I

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Speaker 3: do not sell a dance. I mean I've never taken

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Speaker 3: like that. Well, so you know, he's like, let me

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Speaker 3: hard for me, but okay, but we Yeah, we just

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Speaker 1: That's what it looked like. There are so many dates

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Speaker 1: where you're like, you see like the awkwardness or it

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the connection is real. But I felt

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Speaker 1: like watching that, like you guys were just really honestly,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't like stress enough.

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Speaker 3: How we just like couldn't stop laughing and making jokes.

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Speaker 3: And we had a little thing we like would wipe

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Speaker 2: The rain was like in our face. So we just

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Speaker 3: And you know what, guys will have to watch the

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Speaker 3: show to see what happens, obviously, but I can honestly

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Speaker 2: Love it, And that's all I can really say about that.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Well, I want to know, then you had

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Speaker 1: that moment with Captain Kim Teresa, what do you think

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Speaker 1: of that poem?

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Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it so much. You did

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Speaker 4: She was so good in that moment. She listened intently,

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Speaker 4: she told him it was beautiful. Yeah, she gave him

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Speaker 2: I loved it. She handle it. Thank you, well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not really surprised that you loved it, because I

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Speaker 1: have to say that it felt like a gary move,

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Speaker 2: Little bit depends who the woman is, a little cringey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but also very The problem was that I was

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Speaker 3: pick that. I'm not going to do that, you know,

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Speaker 3: so obviously, so I was hoping i'd be called first

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Speaker 3: so I can give Gary my rose, because of course

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Speaker 3: I want to give my rose. We just literally had

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Speaker 3: like what if I don't get called first, because I

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Speaker 3: heard that Natasha might want to pick Gary, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what would I do? Well, I'll figure that out when

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Speaker 3: I get there, right, So it happened, and I literally

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Speaker 3: was standing there thinking, I don't know what to do

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Speaker 3: right now, I don't know who to pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad, I mean, I'm I was happy. He just

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Speaker 1: seems such also.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I did.

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Speaker 3: I did tell him after he wrote that poem for me.

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Speaker 3: I did say, you know, Kim, I would have given

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be honest with them. I said I

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Speaker 3: would have given Gary may rose if I had been

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Speaker 3: called first, but I felt like, you deserve to be here,

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Speaker 3: and you added the group, so I be honest.

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Speaker 2: I did tell him that.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love that. So why does it

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Speaker 1: seem like in watching it that the Goldens. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure yet if I love that. I'm a little like

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Speaker 1: Iffy on it. I know, I don't know, But why

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Speaker 1: does it seem like the Goldens are having more fun

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Speaker 3: a quick cup of coffee or whatever. But that's when

440
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 3: I was on the dating apps, I always had to

441
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 3: hear their voice first.

442
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: I understand that.

443
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 4: I feel the same way, but I kind of feel

444
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: like the FaceTime takes away some of the mystery of it,

445
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 4: Like there's an excitement about meeting someone for the first time. Yeah,

446
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 4: I do several phone calls before I would meet.

447
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 1: It's also like, do you think that it's not when

448
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: it's not live, it's just a different dynamic. It's like,

449
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like you can't you can't really

450
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: connect in the same way. And maybe if you meet

451
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: face to face there's some kind.

452
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: Of that's how I have there's a chemistry.

453
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: Maybe that could happen. I remember, probably not, but I have.

454
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 2: To say I was on not the I was it wasn't.

455
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 3: It's not a matchmaker, but it kind of is a

456
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: matchmaker and they match you up and.

457
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: Then you have a zoom date.

458
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: And I had a great Zoom date with some and

459
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 3: he was I could have talked to him and been

460
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 3: on whatever. And then actually he lived in New York

461
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: and I went to New York and I met him

462
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 3: for coffee face to face, and it was like a

463
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: completely different person.

464
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, hmmm, that wasn't how it was on zoom. Yeah,

465
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 2: so you just don't know. I know Lloyd's New York

466
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 2: for coffee. No, I was in New York.

467
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: No, no, No, I was about to say I was

468
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: in No, I didn't go to New York for a

469
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: coffee day. I was in New York and he was,

470
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: you know, and I happened to be going there. I'm like,

471
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 3: I'd love to meet you, you know.

472
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well all right, And now I'm just

473
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: curious about how these how these guys, these older guys

474
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: find you besides the apps, like to any of them,

475
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: I hate this expression slide into your dms like the

476
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: young people say they do well, especially now.

477
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 3: Because you guys have said your daughter sliding into my

478
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: dms really for their fathers.

479
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: Yes, me too.

480
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: And I've had a man send me roses. Yeah, letter

481
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 4: and he's just convinced I'm the woman And.

482
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: Where is it?

483
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: No, not for you, definitely got it.

484
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: And mostly we get very young guys like way too young,

485
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: really like thirty year old. Yes, we don't understand it.

486
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: No, I understand it. Do you want to explain it

487
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: to you? I don't know, I understand it. Come on,

488
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, it's whatever. I mean. I find

489
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: you both just so charming and lovely and beautiful. But

490
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: so do you get hit on a lot, like do

491
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: people recognize you?

492
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

493
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: They recognize us everywhere? Really, but we don't. I mean,

494
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, we don't.

495
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 4: We get recognized by young people so much. All the

496
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 4: young people show and that they loved us. A lot

497
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: of times it's the it's a boyfriend and girlfriend and

498
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 4: the boyfriend recognizes us and or they were her and yeah,

499
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 4: and he goes.

500
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: I told you it was her. Yeah to the girl.

501
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: It's so funny, you guys, because I got on a

502
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: reality show on Housewives. I was fifty three at the time,

503
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: and it's it's that's a whole different, you know, there's

504
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: a whole different situation. Housewis is whatever. But it's still

505
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: like I was able to kind of reinvent myself and

506
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: this not that I wanted even to reinvent myself, but

507
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: it was such an adventure and I think like for

508
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: you guys, I would think too, Like it says, what

509
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: an adventure you're you're having? You know?

510
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

511
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: Right, well everybody says did you have fun? I said

512
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: I had the best time. I mean, first of all,

513
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: I came away with like having a best friend are.

514
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: So much?

515
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: We were best friends in yeah, yeah, and then we're

516
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 3: the last two and we're like.

517
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: I was going.

518
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: To say, see, this is also the difference I think

519
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: between maybe the younger the younger kids, and like like

520
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: the fact that you were able to maintain that friendship

521
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: even when it was down to the.

522
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: Two of just the two of you, that's tricky.

523
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, after that us going to

524
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: Costa Rica, I we didn't see each other, right, you know,

525
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: they keep us apart, and so I I did come

526
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: home broken hearted, and Teresa wrote me a beautiful text

527
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: message and she invited me to her wedding, and you know,

528
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: but but but I'm just saying we got over so

529
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: many things and we came out like I can honestly say,

530
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: this girl has my back for everything.

531
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: She's my biggest cheerleader. I hope, I'm yours. You are

532
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: my biggest you know, And I'm going to cry because

533
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah.

534
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry to that was the point, you guys,

535
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: the point that you found each other.

536
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: So I feel like a winner because I came out

537
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: with her, I know the same way.

538
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean everything I know.

539
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: And now I've gone to visit her and friends and

540
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: her family, and.

541
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: We went to New York together in Minnesota, Minneapolis life.

542
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: Now I'm going again keep inviting her to New Jersey.

543
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 4: I am asking taking me up on my invitation some day.

544
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: Just kidding. I want to go every time.

545
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: You know.

546
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: Then I had paradise. But things are going to call.

547
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: Let's walking around the people when you're when you do

548
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: make it to we're gonna. I would appreciate that later.

549
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: I have to. I just have to. I can't help it.

550
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: So the Gary of it all, so Gary, No.

551
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: The Gary Gary, the Gary Gary Gary.

552
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah I hate to say that, but now no, I

553
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: didn't say, you know, but now there's another Gary.

554
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: Gary, Yes, okay, so so the one that we are

555
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: no longer in contact with. But I mean, you guys

556
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: feel like it's a weird thing. It's a different thing

557
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: obviously with very different experiences. But looking back, do you feel,

558
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, like it was an experience worth having loving

559
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: him and you know at this point or was it

560
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: just I hope it wasn't too wearbreaking and it was

561
00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: worth it.

562
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: Way worth it. I in the experience overall.

563
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: With him being good and you seem like a really

564
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: kind person.

565
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're in a bubble.

566
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and my experience was probably different than Teresa's. But

567
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: my experience was he was very nice to me and

568
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: very kind, and he, you know, was very interested in

569
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: what I had to say, and you know, way different

570
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: than any other person I've been with. But I laughed

571
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: at my jokes. I like that I made him laugh.

572
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: I like that, So you know, I felt like I

573
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: was seeing you know, and appreciate appreciate it. But obviously

574
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: you don't know what else is going on. You don't

575
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: know other conversations at all.

576
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to watch back.

577
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 4: Do you get something here that we are so similar

578
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 4: in type? You really that there was there there was

579
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 4: a reason why he.

580
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: D Yeah, very much alike it. It was hard for me.

581
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: It was hard for me to watch.

582
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was terrible. But listen, now you're both

583
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: single again.

584
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: Yeah we were a single.

585
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: Oh I love this the dynamic duo.

586
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: Same thing.

587
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm not.

588
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: So Teresa and Leslie loved having you on. Thank you.

589
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: I really appreciate having you again here quite quite a

590
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: long time now. I mean I'm telling you, like when

591
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: the when the show, when it first happened, I was thrilled.

592
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: I was just I felt like finally, and then you know,

593
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: seeing women like you and that are I don't know,

594
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm not whatever. I'm not going to get too sappy. Yeah,

595
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: but women that again, I'm fifty seven, we're not far apart. Yeah,

596
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: but I just I'm watching even a little bit ahead

597
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: of myself and seeing what there is not just look

598
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: forward to. But you're so vibrant. Yeah, and so you.

599
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: And that's the thing about the young people watching us.

600
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: They come up to me daily and say, you make

601
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: growing old look okay. You know, because when you're young

602
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: sometimes you don't think about it, but then it creeps

603
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: in your head like in your thirties, right, young you

604
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: know whatever, And that is for me my biggest I

605
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: just love that. I love being able to, you know,

606
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: motivate younger people to you know, stay in shape and

607
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: just be happy, do things and all that.

608
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. You know they say, we're not afraid to get

609
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: old anymore. Yeah, that's so rewarding.

610
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: I do love that.

611
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: The best part of this whole thing, the friendships, meeting

612
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: all these people come up to us.

613
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: It's one seem like, imagine what life has to offer, right,

614
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: like the adventures to follow. I mean, I am I'm

615
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: taking a random guest here, but I just think for

616
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: some reason that you, my friend Urisa are going to

617
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: end up on Bachelor's in Paradise one day. I just

618
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: see it, just see it. Just say all right, guys.

619
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Speaker 1: So anyways, so again, thank you, love your bank again.

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Speaker 1: So check out Bachelor and Paradise and it is on

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Speaker 1: Monday nights on ABC and streaming on Hulu. So do

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