1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: As President Trump tries to expand a Western coalition to 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: reopen the Strait of horror moves, Iran is finding help 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: of its own in China and Russia. 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: Iran's foreign ministers. 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: At the military cooperation with both countries continues. 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: The straight or do you say, Straits of horror mooz 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: continues to be one of the big, big stories connected 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: with the war with Iran right now. 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: Huh. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: And nobody's quite sure when and how it will end, 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: which is not to say it won't, but it's going 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: to take a while for sure. We discussed that pretty extensively, 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: and it was an hour one or two, I can't remember. 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Let's to them both. 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: But Europe in particular is reeling from this for a 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: number of reasons. Partly they're out of money. Government debt 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: and borrowing costs were lower during Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: They stacked up on money. They gave lots of benefits 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: to help stimulate the economy. Today, borrowing costs are surging 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: across the continent. Government debt in the UK and France 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: is that or near. The highest chair of GDP in 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: at least sixty years since WW two said the essentially 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: the Fed chairman of France, we don't have any more money. 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: And then rising energy costs have threatened to accelerate de 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: industrialization during a year when they were really hoping to 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: invest and have more growth, because Europe, you may recall 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: us talking about this, finally realized that their zero what's 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: it called net zero policies were ruinous to their economies, 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: just ruinous plus overregulation. 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: But now this higher cost of energy. 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: And and interests has arrived and they got no money 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: to deal with it, so they're in terrible shape. 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: I am somewhat perplexed in this whole straight arms being 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: closed temporarily on the planning for it or not so 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: I Uh. There's tons of talk in the mainstream and 39 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: left media about how they didn't plan for this, how 40 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: could you're not plan for this, blah blah blah, and 41 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 4: then talk on the right by a lot of my 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: favorite smart people saying, of course they planned for it, 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: and this they're dealing with it, and it's been two weeks, and. 44 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: What how do you think wars work? 45 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: You know, if six months from now this comes to 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: an end with a good result, a less dangerous regime. 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: Six months, six months in the overall course of history 48 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: is nothing. You launched a war that lasted six months, 49 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: that's a blip. But for some reason, the fact that 50 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: it's lasted two weeks seems crazy by our modern attention spans. 51 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Right. 52 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: That's not to say blood and treasure don't matter over 53 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: the course of six months. I know you didn't mean that, 54 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, of course, perhaps the plan was. Most experts 55 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: don't think they'll close the strait because it would be 56 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: too damaging to them. But if they do, we're gonna 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: have to deal with it. It'll probably take several months. 58 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a plan. Combined lack of an 59 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: immediate resolution does not prove that there's no plan. That's 60 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: a silly narrative and immedia. 61 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's been two weeks, right, uh, also combined 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: with the we have a once in a lifetime opportunity 63 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: to take out the Ayatola and everybody beneath him. 64 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: We have intel on that. Do we do it or not? Right? 65 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Yes, we do it was the decision given the history 66 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: of that regime. Yeah, I would agree, which again, you know, 67 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm always throwing in disclaimers. That's not to say it 68 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: might not go horribly wrong and we regret it. You 69 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: just you never know. But if you restrict what you 70 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: do as a superpower, particularly a superpower that's gotten attacked 71 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: over and over and over again by the same evil bastards, 72 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: if you restrict your responses to only stuff where one 73 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: hundred percent sure how it's going to go Obama Biden, 74 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: which you completely declaude yourself as a world power. 75 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. 76 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 5: So. 77 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: You got something on that coming up a little bit 78 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: later too, from Henry Kissinger back in the day. Yeah, 79 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: there's gonna be a very thick intellectual hour, probably with 80 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 4: some very childish, like we're eight year old's jokes in between. 81 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: Sounds good to me. Ah. 82 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: And then the other thing is, you know, we don't 83 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: really have time to go into this now, but if 84 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: you actually go piece by piece, you know, episode by 85 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: episode through the history of Iran trying to get nukes, 86 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: because you remember some of the high points, if you're 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: like me anyway, you remember some of the high points 88 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: and a couple of the negotiations, and you're reminded. 89 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's right. Back in the early two thousands, 90 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: we this and they that. 91 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: You think, yeah, they definitely are looking for the bomb 92 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: to wipe out Israel in the USA. If you go 93 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: through the history, have it written out in front of 94 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: you as I do, You're like, oh my god, we 95 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: absolutely have no choice but to confront these people when. 96 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: It's fleshed out. 97 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: How it's been a drum beat over decades. It's it's 98 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: just a no brainer, right. 99 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: That fits too well with this Kissinger stuff from Neil 100 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: Ferguson's biography of Henry Kissinger, who is the great statesman 101 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: of the sixties seventies, and every president talked to him 102 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: while he was alive, every president from the sixties until 103 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: Barack Obama. He writes in his book, those ages, which 104 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 4: in retrospect seem the most peaceful, were least in search 105 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 4: of peace. 106 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: Those who quest for. 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 4: It seems unending, appear least able to achieve tranquility. For Kissinger, 108 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 4: the practical significance of the era is that they perceived 109 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 4: achievable stability than perpetual peace. Perhaps the most memorable lines 110 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: in the entire book that he wrote all Kissinger wrote 111 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: were whenever peace, conceived as the avoidance of war, has 112 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: been the primary objective of a power or a group 113 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 4: of powers, the international system has been at the mercy 114 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: of the most ruthless members of the international community. Whenever 115 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: the international order has acknowledged that certain principles could not 116 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 4: be compromised even for the sake of peace, stability based 117 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: on an equilibrium forces was at least conceivable. So, getting 118 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 4: to what you were talking about with the Obama I'm 119 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: a Biden view of just can't have any war. That's 120 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: when you have the least peace. Yeah, in Russia move 121 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: in whatever the way they did. When you are willing 122 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: to go to war over breaking various norms that we've decided, 123 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: that's when you have the most stability. Why doesn't everybody 124 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: understand that? It seems quite obvious to me. 125 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: I realize I'm constantly dividing humanity into two groups of 126 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: various descriptions. But here's another one. There are the people 127 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: who understand that predators always predate, they will never stop. 128 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: You just assume that because that's part of life. And 129 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: there are those who think, well, maybe we can get 130 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: everybody to be nice. Those are the two groups. 131 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: Well, there apparently is a group and they reach they 132 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: get into high levels of leadership sometimes or President of 133 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: the United States who believe the slogans like war is 134 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: not the answer. That's just a dumb thing to say. 135 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: If you have a war, that's not the answer, bumper sticker, 136 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: You've just announced to me you're a moron. 137 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: It's the answer sometimes sometimes it's the answer. 138 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: If you get invaded by a big back country, what 139 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: is your other option there? 140 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I always love it when somebody responds to the violence 141 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: has never solved anything, yeah, and then lists all the 142 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: things that violence is solved. 143 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: Right, same same sort of emotion. I just yeah, I 144 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: don't know I understand why that is. 145 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: Co exist coexist anyway. 146 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: Heard the Beck's explanation for what the woke crowd is 147 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 4: all about. It's a spiritual angle that I thought was 148 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 4: really really interesting. We can get to that coming up, 149 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: among other things. 150 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 5: Stay with us, we proclaim our support or the astalling Republic. 151 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: Shame Shame USA, Shame shame USA. You know, on is 152 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 5: the central pillar of the struggle against US imperialism anxionism today, 153 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 5: the Islamic Revolution in nineteen seventy nine, so as the 154 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 5: catalyst of anti imperialism and anti occupation globally. 155 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: So are these former this is in New York over 156 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: the we again, are these Iranians who were in favor 157 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: of the theocracy. 158 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: Or oh no, no, they're young Marxists. All that colonial stuff, 159 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: all that imperial stuff, that's all about neo Marxism. 160 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: Okay, that fits in with what I was about to 161 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 4: talk about, which I find this really interesting. I love 162 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: this sort of stuff. It's called a piece written by 163 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: Tom Klingenstein the Left, and it's devil. But it's this 164 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: idea that some people have that when a big chunk 165 00:09:50,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: of Western minds abandoned religion, I left them with all 166 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: whole like a what like a world struggle? What is 167 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: your worldview? What is your how do you how do 168 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: you explain the way everything works? If you don't have 169 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: the you know, devil versus God sort of kind of 170 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: view of things, I think it'll become more obvious what 171 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: I'm talking about here. As I read this from the piece, 172 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: I thought, this is really interesting now that they have 173 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: filled their empty spiritual jars with a bitter new wine. Okay, 174 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: so that's for people who have empty spiritual jars. But 175 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: it leaves a hole. You got to fill it with something. 176 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with 177 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 4: a bitter new wine, the woke ideologues will never be 178 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: able to let go of their man made satan. It 179 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: would mean it would mean returning to the abyss of 180 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: meaninglessness that they struggled so hard to overcome. In the 181 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 4: world of good versus evil that the Left is invented, 182 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 4: there will always be fascists, racists, and sexts, for instance, 183 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: to demonize, because permanent enemies have become a therapeutic crutch. 184 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: Is this is why there can be no return to 185 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: the old normal. A substantial portion of the country cannot 186 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 4: live without perpetual war. The left has given up its 187 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: dream of the peaceful, rational society in favor of a 188 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: constant mobilization against deplorable racists. It was a large price 189 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 4: to pay, but endless war turned out to be preferable 190 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: to the psychic horror of a life without purpose. So 191 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: once you abandon the whole idea of you're living for God, 192 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: or you know, it doesn't have to be God, but 193 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 4: some higher purpose, having kids maybe raising them everything, just 194 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: you needed to have the enemy out there to be well, 195 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: fighting against in superior to and and so it's the racists, fascists, whatever, 196 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: you know, the list of things, imperialists, all that sort 197 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: of stuff, and that you're in permanent war with these people. 198 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: And there's there's no satisfaction really there because a lot 199 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: of it is made up, but that's what drives them 200 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 4: and the idea that we cannot return to the Oh 201 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: I didn't do a good job of setting this up. 202 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: A friend of mine sent this to me out of 203 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: the pole that we're discussing last week about how we're 204 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: the only country in the world right now we're a 205 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: majority of the citizens think their fellow citizens are evil, 206 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 4: slash and moral, with the left really leading the way 207 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 4: in that thinking it's the whole we think they're wrong. 208 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: They think we're evil thing right, and because you have 209 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 4: to have we apparently are built to have a good evil, 210 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: good and evil dichotomy in our brains. If you're not 211 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: okay with the whole kind of religious structure of it, 212 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: you go with well, sexist, racists, homophobes, whatever you're going 213 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: to throw in there to the mix as your devil. 214 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Woke and non wok. In short, Yeah, that's interesting. So 215 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: your lifetime's quest certainly not reproduction or you know, raising 216 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: a happy family and cuddling your grandkids, et cetera, which 217 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: was eternal satisfaction enough for plenty of people. And it's 218 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: not like striving for you know, representative government or the 219 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: natural rights of man versus oppression, blah blah blah. It's 220 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: the woke stuff fighting against what you perceive. Well, and 221 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: you're right, you're never going to be satisfied because a 222 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: lot of things that are perfectly reasonable or even like 223 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: better ideas are not going to go away. So you're 224 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: going to spend your entire life fighting against meritocracy for instance, right, 225 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: because that's white supremacy or privilege or something. 226 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what it's like to be childless 227 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: at this point and think of the world without the 228 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: investment that you have if you have kids, of wanting 229 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 4: the world to continue to be a decent place to 230 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: live for them. 231 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: So I don't know quite what it looks like then. 232 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm old enough at this point and 233 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: was weirdly aware enough of a lot of political and 234 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: social issues as a kid. You didn't come at them. 235 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: You didn't come at political issues through the lens of 236 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: your religion, because your religion was primarily a religious religion. 237 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't a sectarian policy judging other people religion. It 238 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: was separate from politics to a huge extent, whereas these 239 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: people's religion is politics absolutely, And so it's impossible for 240 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: them to come to an issue and give it a 241 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: fair hearing because they already know where they're supposed to stand. 242 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: Now that they have filled their empty spiritual jars with 243 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: a bitter new wine. The woke id logs will never 244 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: be able to let go of their man made satan. 245 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: The fascist, racist, sexist imperialists, you know all the stuff. 246 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: We know all the stuff. 247 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: Right right, well, and I guess, I mean, I try 248 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: very hard to be a logical person. I think it's 249 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: probably just the way I made. But I came across 250 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: that screed that was trying to prevent anybody from admitting, 251 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, queers for Palestine is a bizarre notionan 252 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: aren't we a bit of a parody over here? I mean, 253 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: they hang gay people, they torture them, they rape them, 254 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: then kill them. They hang them from cranes and the 255 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: square in Tehran. The irony here is just too much. 256 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm afraid I can't join you in channing yay yay 257 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: quers for PALESTI m M. But anyway, this piece was saying, 258 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: never let them refocus you away from the colonial oppressors. 259 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: They're trying to drive a wedge with that disinformation. Don't 260 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: let them do it. And anybody who's coming in a 261 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: problem logically would think, yeah, I don't care what their 262 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: motiva is there, right, but if you see them as 263 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: apostates or heretics or whatever who are coming after your religion, 264 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: that makes it super easy to turn off an argument 265 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: before you even hear it. So I don't know what 266 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: do we do with those people? Round him off? Send 267 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: them up to a prison camp islands, probably most likely 268 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: go to the college campuses, tell them they're heading for 269 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: a six weeks abroad stretch here. What did you call 270 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: it a gap year? Yeah, it's a gap year program, 271 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: government paid gap year use because of income inequality. 272 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: And you ship them to a prison camp islon. I 273 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: think that's a deficiltilve that. 274 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have a breaking news thing, maybe we 275 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: can talk more about later. Trump just posted this His 276 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: cheapest staff Susie Wilds has been diagnosed with breast cancer. 277 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: Is going to start a treatment everything like that. She 278 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: is a moderating influence on Donald Trump. I guarantee you 279 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: she's the voice of sanity. Yeah, no question. So how 280 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: much she'll be in his ear over the coming weeks 281 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: or months as she battles or breast cancer could be 282 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: a major part of history. 283 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Indeed. 284 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's an amazing gal too. I hope she's all right, 285 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: but we'll find out. 286 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: I guess we got more in the way. 287 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and 288 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: Getting on demand. 289 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty this weekend. 290 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 6: The Trump administration destroying military targets on Iran's carg Island, 291 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 6: where nearly all of Iran's crude oil is processed. The 292 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 6: Pentagon says the US and Israel have struck some fifteen 293 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 6: thousand targets inside Iran, reducing Iran's missile volume by ninety 294 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 6: percent and its drone capability by ninety five percent. 295 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: If those numbers are accurate, that's pretty amazing. Yeah. 296 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think it's like a lot of things in life, 297 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: whether you're becoming a musician or whatever. As the percentages 298 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: get lower, as you get higher and higher, each percentage 299 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: gets more and more painstaking to either. 300 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: Learn or wipe out or whatever. Anyway, we'll have to see. 301 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: As we've reminded you a couple of times, we're roughly 302 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: two weeks into trying to subdue a regime that is 303 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: unquestionably bloodthirsty, evil and fanatical, and it might take a minute. 304 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: And I was reminded by an absolutely wonderful piece written 305 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: by uh, well, it's the editorial board of the Wall 306 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: Street Journal. But they went through the history of the 307 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: civilized world's efforts to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear 308 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: weapon because they have absolutely sworn they would use it 309 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: as soon as they could on Israel or the Great Satan, 310 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: or blackmail the world through the straits of hormones, perhaps 311 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: without fear of us being able to do much in 312 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: the name of their absolutely insane religious zelotry. 313 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: Because these people are serious. 314 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: The weird Beard Junior, I'm sorry, we Beard Senior is 315 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: really kom Ni who was a serious cleric. 316 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: He's not joking about this stuff. 317 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Kameni the second guy, again, hardcore religious fanatic and a 318 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: weird Beard Junior who may or may not have his 319 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: beard end or both his legs and is in deep hiding. 320 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: They really mean all this maybe gay, As we learned earlier, it's. 321 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: Good point, good point gay. Anyway, Oh, that was a joke. 322 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: To get back to the Journal. So much in today's 323 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: media framing of the Iran War relies on a mythology 324 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: of what came before. The gist is that Iran was 325 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: contained by Barack Obama until Donald Trump mucked it up, 326 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: and now the regime will really pursue nuclear weapons. It's 327 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: pretty good summary. Naive is too kind a word for 328 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: this deceptive partisan history. The real history is worth rehearsing 329 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: because it shows that Iran's regime has been relentlessly for 330 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: decades in its has been relentless, i should say for 331 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: decades in its quest for the bomb, which is why 332 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: President Trump is weakening it by force or as mentioning. 333 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal editorial board kicks the hell out 334 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: of Trump on occasion. They are no Trump fanatics. A 335 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: good day to the start is in two thousand and two. 336 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: And you know, we're skipping over the nineteen seventy nine 337 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: stuff and all. But when Israel helped expose Iran's cuclet 338 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: secret nuclear sites at Natan's in Iraq, these are where 339 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: the regime was pursuing a bomb via uranium and plutonium. 340 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: That same year, Iran tested its design for a nuclear 341 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: implosion device, all in violation of its nuclear non proliferation 342 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: treaty obligations. So it already had a treaty, it violated 343 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: them over and over again. In two thousand and two, 344 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: Iran denied wanting a bomb, and in two thousand and 345 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: seven a US national intelligence estimate reported with high confidence 346 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: that Iran had ceased its organized effort to develop nuclear 347 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: bombs in two thousand and three after the US invasion 348 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: of Iraq. The worry in Tehran in two thousand and 349 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: three was that it could be next. Iran's president called 350 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: the report a gift from God. Others sought as a 351 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: politicization of intelligence to block George W. Bush from confronting Iran. 352 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: That was the effect, even as Iran helped kill six 353 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: hundred US soldiers and foment chaos in Iraq. Only later 354 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: did we learn how misleading that in intelligence finding was. 355 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: The most conclusive evidence came in twenty eighteen when Israel 356 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: whisked Iran's suclear secret nuclear archives out of Tehran. I 357 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: remember that that was an unbelievable operation. They found them 358 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: all in that warehouse and just took them anyway. The 359 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: records proved that far from ending its nuclear weapons program 360 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: after twenty oh three, Iran decentralized and dispersed, but con 361 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: continued its activities with energy. Weaponization was concealed or pursued 362 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: at universities when dual use civilian cover was plausible. In 363 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: twenty oh nine, the US learned Iran had been building 364 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: a facility deep under a mountain near Qualm designed to 365 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: enrich uranium to weapons grade. Again, Iran claimed its purpose 366 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: was peaceful, but then why bury it and not tell 367 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: inspectors until the US was onto it. This became the 368 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Fordao facility that the US bombed in June with special 369 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: earth penetrating bombs. Enter mister Obama, who made a nuclear 370 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: deal with Iran a top priority. The talks dragged on 371 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: four years, do you remember that? As Iran pressed forward 372 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: with enrichment, repression at home, and terror abroad, while mister 373 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: Obama did little in response. The regime's negotiating goal was 374 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: to win economic relief from sanctions while preserving and legitimizing 375 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: its nuclear program. Iran finally agreed to a deal in 376 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. After a series of US concessions, the Obama 377 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: team allowed enrichment and let her On keep the infrastructure 378 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: that could be used to reach weapons grade. When Iran 379 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: felt the time was right, they successfully negotiated that in 380 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: the Obama Deal, Mister Obama backtracked to let Heran operate 381 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: at ford Ou in Iraq and keep five thousand centrifuges 382 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: at Natan's He gave up on any time anywhere inspections. 383 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: Iran didn't even have to detail all of its past 384 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: nuclear activities. The deal's restrictions would sunset after five, eight, nine, 385 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: or fifteen years, depending on the provision, and it weakened 386 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: restraints on Iran's missiles as well. In the deal's first week, 387 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: Iran received thirty billion dollars in sanctions relief. Cassim Solomni, 388 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: the Kuds Force chief, immediately flew to Moscow and secured 389 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: Russia's military intervention in Syria. Then the Revolutionary Guard arrested 390 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: for Americans held them for a trade. The deal did 391 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: not change the regime's hostile behavior, and Iran kept building 392 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: its proxy network. Trump quit the deal in twenty eighteen 393 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: and escalated sanctions. If he hadn't Iran and its proxteys 394 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: would be more dangerous. Now the regime would be legally 395 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: advancing its nuclear program from position a position of strength. 396 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: And there's a little more to it, but the point 397 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: is anybody who says that Obama had contained Iraq is insane. 398 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: They're completely wrong on the facts. Critics of Trump's bombing 399 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: campaign says now say now it will motivate Iran to 400 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: pursue nuclear weapons in earnest, But that's what it's been 401 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: doing for years. Every time we've thought no, they've come 402 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: to heal. 403 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: They haven't. 404 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: Critics also say the IRGC will now steer the ship 405 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: of state, but it's been doing that since the days 406 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: of mak wud Amadina job. The Revolutionary Guard's humiliation of 407 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: Iran's president recent days only lifts that veil. They are 408 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: in charge and they want nukes. Always been true. Every 409 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: time we thought it wasn't true, it turns out it 410 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: was true. 411 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: God, we gotta wake up. That would be a disaster 412 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: for the world. 413 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 4: And now, as before, I understood the power of the 414 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: Strait of hor moves. So if Ouran had a nuclear weapon, 415 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: they could have throttled back the straight or hermus anytime 416 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: they wanted and say, Okay, what are you gonna give 417 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: us to open this back up again? 418 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: Otherwise we're gonna keep a close And there'd been nothing 419 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: in the world could have done. 420 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: And unlike the other superpowers, even Putin, for God's sake, 421 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: if they started to rattle in their nuclear sabite, they'd 422 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: use it. They're apocalyptic religious fanatics. Putin's a lot of stuff, 423 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: but he's not that. Neither Shijin Ping. 424 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: And so far not fat headed North Korea. 425 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Yeah, troubled times sometimes really really hard things 426 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: have to be done. Oh my god, professional wrestler, that 427 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: is hilarious. I was just asking Siri the total number 428 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: of deaths in World War two. I said WW two, 429 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: and it started to give me a couple of people 430 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: that have died in the WWE, the World Wrestling people. 431 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: So the first numbers around fifty million. The second number 432 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 4: is probably. 433 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Three three people exactly. Macho man Randy Savage once broke 434 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: his arm. Good lord, and who knows. You know, this 435 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: could go badly. You're gonna scarce with the World War 436 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: three scenarios. Maybe tomorrow, it'll still be horrifying tomorrow. But 437 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: imagine if Britain and France in particular, in particularly and 438 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: particularly had decided, you know, it's going to cost us 439 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: several hundred lives, but we've got to confront Hitler's war 440 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: machine now. When he invaded the Sudan Land, for instance, 441 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: or violated some other treaties, it could have prevented the 442 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: loss of fifty million lives. 443 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: It's a quag buyer. It's taken two weeks. 444 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: There was no plan, reports the La Times, right of 445 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: the British and Frenchia efforts. 446 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Trump said that he's got seven countries that 447 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 4: are willing to escort ships through the Strait. 448 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: Of Horror moves. 449 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 4: He didn't name them, and they have not come out 450 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: and named themselves, So I don't know if that was 451 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 4: the old salesperson presumptive clothes that he's doing. 452 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: They said, yeah, we'd be willing to talk to you 453 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: about it, and he said, yep, they're on the line, 454 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: they're ready to go. 455 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 4: I don't know how this particular portion of this ends. 456 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: As I quoted somebody earlier, it has to include a 457 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: and willingness to open back up, because it would only 458 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: take a couple of guys with ill intentions to blow 459 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: up an oil tanker, and so you have to have 460 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: a RAMS buy in on this. It's almost impossible because 461 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 4: of the way the strait is. Uh you know, if 462 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 4: you've looked at the map, the way it curves around that. 463 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 4: Uh So yeah, if that's true, if you have to 464 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 4: negotiate some sort of settlement around this open back up, 465 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: it's the only way you can do it. 466 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 467 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: Well, there's two ways to get their agreement, negotiation and pummeling. 468 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: Well, well, you were going to have to pummel them 469 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 4: into wanting negotiate. I don't know at what point who 470 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: who's gonna who's gonna be in charge to say we give, 471 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: we surrender. 472 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: I don't know who can be that person. 473 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: So you're calling for the old p and n the 474 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: old pummel negotiate. 475 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: Eh, that's the Armstrong plan. 476 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: So the one legged perhaps uh blind, gay, impotent bind 477 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: austere scholar new Aetolia is going to be the person 478 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: to make the call if this is a psyops by 479 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: the way that he's gay and impotent, this is a 480 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: great one for their particular culture. 481 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: That's just awesome. 482 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: I'd open every negotiation with still got that missile problem. 483 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: My atola, what the missile promplem? Are you referring to 484 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: my genitals? 485 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: And need to stump out of the room? More pommeling 486 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: here we go. Yeah, if you didn't hear us talking 487 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 2: about it. 488 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: Apparently in a briefing recently, Trump was told that our 489 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 4: intelligence believes a new Supreme leader is gay, and. 490 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: That's why his papa didn't want him to succeed him, 491 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: because he knew it would come out. Plus, we're trying 492 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: to figure out what the hell treatment for impotence is 493 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: there that you spend two weeks in a hospital. They 494 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: weren't trying to fix his limp shrimp. They were trying 495 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: to convert him, or at least get him horned oft 496 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: enough to have sex with his wife once so that 497 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: he could have a kid. 498 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: So she was his beard. The beard had a beard. 499 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: I bet that's what they did. 500 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: When when he finally was able to consummate his marriage, 501 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: they got a bunch of Chippendale's dancers in there, dancing around, 502 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: grinding on a pole or something. He stared at them 503 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: until he got worked up and then closed his eyes 504 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: and showed she was harry styles. 505 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: They showed him lots of videos are really manly looking chicks. 506 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Just just memorize this picture, all right, Just just pretend 507 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: even as a low voice. 508 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: We can only assume this is true. 509 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: But if it's syops, that's a good one though, in 510 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: a culture that they've got to get word out to 511 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: the revolutionary guard. 512 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: Look, he's gay. 513 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: Are you gonna you gonna die on a hill for 514 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 4: a gay guy in that culture? 515 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: No? 516 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: Or it might be true. It certainly. Just complain and 517 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: be true. It sounds true. It's pretty well. 518 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, we will finish strong. 519 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 7: Next, I want to interview Eric Wyhan Mayer, who climbed 520 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 7: the highest mountain in the world, Mount Everest. But he's gay, 521 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 7: I mean he's gay. 522 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: Excuse me, he's blind. 523 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: So we'll hear about that coming here. Okay, as we 524 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: heard the break a look at the six o'clock Armstrong 525 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: and Getty. 526 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 7: Taco Bells announced new additions to their menu, including Diablo 527 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 7: Dusted Chicken Nuggets and Mountain Dew Baja Midnight Pie, in 528 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 7: keeping with their new slogan, Taco bell Death to America. 529 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: That's funny. Can you play that again? I want to 530 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: hear those ingredients and focus on it. 531 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 7: Taco Bells announced new additions to their menu, including Diablo 532 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 7: Dusted chicken nuggets and Mountain Dew Baja Midnight Pie, in 533 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 7: keeping with their new slogan Taco Bell Death to America. 534 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: Dude, Baja Midnight Pie. Not exactly sure what that is. 535 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: The name of food should give you at least some 536 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: idea of what you're putting in your head. Yet, Yeah, 537 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: that could be anything. I need to prepare my mouth 538 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: for a surf for a certain flavor. 539 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: And I have no idea what this is. Midnight pie. 540 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: Apparently it's passion fruit and lime soda pie. 541 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: So it's midnight is in. I'm stoned, and I'm going 542 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: to eat something incredibly ill advised. I've never heard a 543 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: time reference attached to a baked good before. 544 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: Sports note, and March madness is about to begin. If 545 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: you're into college basketball, and I live in a part 546 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: of the country where people aren't, But I have lived 547 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 4: in many parts of the country where it's like the 548 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: biggest thing of the year. Uh, March madness in college basketball. 549 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 4: And I think we can all agree there's not a 550 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: worse year than when Duke is the number one seed. 551 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, so abd anybody but Duke. They are the 552 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: number one seed. In the entire country. What can be 553 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: done about that? They can go and step in or 554 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: there's got to be some sort of well, let's get 555 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: we got some super rich alums who can now just 556 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 4: out and out buy great young basketball players for a. 557 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: Year millions of dollars. 558 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 4: Because that's the modern college basketball is. You're you get 559 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of you get the hot freshmen, and 560 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: then they go to the NBA. Uh, duke your top 561 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: four seeds if you're filling out a bracket. Duke, Arizona, Michigan, Florida, 562 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 4: all names familiar with the being you know, number one seeds, 563 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: no doubt about that. We don't do brackets around here 564 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: anymore because, uh, I think we've lost the capacity for 565 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: joy in our workplace for some reason. 566 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: Camaraderie is dead. Camaraderie is dead. Yes, see get over it. 567 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: Spree de corps is in. 568 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 5: A coffin, Checkliss, Tim stop, Jack and Joseph go and 569 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 5: if they. 570 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 4: Don't get candalepbacks in my road. 571 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Yeah. 572 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: The official slogan of the radio ranch is, what the 573 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: hell's the point? How let's get a final thought from 574 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: everybody on our cheery, upbeat go get Her crew to 575 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: wrap up the show for the day, beginning with Michael 576 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: Angelow and the controller of Michael. 577 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 4: I keep thinking of the movie planes, trains, an automobile, 578 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 4: and dealing with our executive producer Mike Hanson. 579 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: He's trapped back. There is one degree. 580 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if he's got to share a hotel room 581 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: with a stranger and write a pick up across the 582 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: country to get back there. You go can be better, 583 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: get back to work. You'll be fined. Every day is 584 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: missing Katie Green, are esteemed and use him. And as 585 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: a final thought. 586 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 4: Katie, I've picked up so many good insults working with 587 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 4: you guys. 588 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: And my new one from today is limp shrimp. 589 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah that's Jack's I stole it man Jack. 590 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: A final thought for us. 591 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just gonna tease the One More Thing podcast. 592 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 4: Interesting poll of tons of people on their attitudes off 593 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: you for marriage, Just struggling what you should do? Huge 594 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 4: change in recent years. Oh that is well, it's worth 595 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: talking about. Oh my final I thought it is. 596 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Had a nice time helping out a fundraiser for breast 597 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: cancer research last night. The interesting coincidence that Susie Wilds 598 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: has announced her diagnosis. But figure out what you can 599 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: do to help a good cause. It makes you feel 600 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: good and it sure helps them. It made me feel good. 601 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four our workday. 602 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: So many people. Thanks a little time. Go to Armstrong 603 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: and Getdy dot com. We have a lot of great 604 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: stuff like the Hotlings, dng swag store, get yourself some 605 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: amng swag sport it proudly in defiance of the woke 606 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: in the newsomites. 607 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 4: Fantastic. We will see tomorrow. God bless America. 608 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm strong in Getty. 609 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: As the kids like to say, the world is crashing out. 610 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: Nobody can make nice. I think twice about what they're 611 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: saying at a time like this. Just no, you got 612 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: two friends. Check and Show the. 613 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 6: And Geddy Show, get the podcast, Armstrong and Getty on 614 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 6: the Nats. 615 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty