1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hello, guys, welcome to episode two of 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: the Almost Famous Podcast. This week we are joined by 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: the one and only Chris Bukowski, the man with the 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: most Bachelor Nations appearance Bachelor Nation appearances of all time? Chris, 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: does that still hold? It still holds? Um? Hopefully it 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: holds forever. Otherwise they're going to force me to go 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: back on that thing. And you should in that case, 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: just to like come say something and then leave and 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: then leave exactly. All right, Well, what are you up 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: to these days? You're quite the entrepreneur, you know. I 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: I know you for your restaurant development. What's up right now? Yeah, 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: same stuff. The restaurants are coming back, you know since 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: the COVID restrictions have eased a little bit. Um. It 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: was definitely a tough go for the past year and 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: a half. But done. He's my new home. I actually 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: bought a house out in Denver and March, so I'm 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: living out there about seventy five of the time, then 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: spending a lot of time in Chicago as well. Okay, 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: so the last time we saw you on the show, 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: you're engaged to Katie Morton. We've talked to you caught 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: up since Is there any other special lady in your 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: life now that we're going on, like over years since 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: your breakup with Katie? No, just kind of staying busy. Um, 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: you're not forcing anything. I know you you know, well, 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: man be thirty five next month, so obviously feel the 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: pressure of, you know, finding someone. But at this point, I'm, 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, happy with who I am, what I'm doing, 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to force anything at this point 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: to see what happens. I feel like, Okay, So I'm 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: thirty three, you're thirty four. Joe the grocery store, you know, 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: grocery store Joe, he's um, he's storty five, and we 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: have Kenny, he's forty. I feel like paradise around like 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: your mid thirties or in Kenny's case, forty. He's a 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: whole different thing. You just cannot possibly have as much 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: tall rance for it as you did beforehand. Could you 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: imagine yourself in paradise at this age? No, I barely 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: survived last time I was on there. I swear barely 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: survived getting out of that place alive. So yeah, I 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine being forty because that's you know, six more 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: years from now, and that just seems like, I mean, 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: it's like Survivor to me. When I'm out there, it's 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: basically being on Survivor. It's it's it's a battle, I 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: would agree. And just watching the heat, like now these 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: people just sweating and dripping and not getting any relief 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: from it. I feel like that's something you could tolerate 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: more as a younger person. I know I'm still young 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: at thirty three, but like just the comforts of uh, 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, first world life that you don't always get 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: there absolutely. I mean, you know, you're sleeping outside bunk beds. 51 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: You would think the ocean water is peaceful, but it's 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: too loud. You know, there's no clocks. I mean, it's 53 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's literally hell on Earth. And then 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: you're trying to form relationships while you're doing it, so 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, definitely glamorous. That's so funny that you 56 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: mentioned the no clocks thing, because that's something we don't 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: think about and just like a little Tibet for all 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: you guys out there, we basically have to tell time 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: based on the placement of the sun. I compared it 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: to being in the Las Vegas casino without all the 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: fun things, right, you know, it's just you just have 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: no sense of time, and that's like the goal, right, 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: so you spend more money there. It's just like all right, 64 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: no sense of time, so you just are mentally a 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: wreck the whole time, you know. I think that's what 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: it is. It's like we just don't have like a 67 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: finale to our day or like what is it. It's 68 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: because it's so that we live in this like totally 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: other world, detached from everything. I don't know if I'm 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: looking forward to going to sleep or if I'm looking 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: forward to waking up in the morning, because it's basically 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: someone tells you when to go to sleep and went 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: to wake up in the morning. So it's, uh, it's 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: like being at like a really bad summer camp. Did 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, it actually is good for us 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: to not know the time when it is for or 77 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: thirty am during a rose ceremony. That's because that just 78 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: like really brings you down. And I was looking at 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: those girls suffering in last night's rose ceremony. They were 80 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: so hot, so sweaty, the makeup is totally melted off, 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: the hair is totally done. So and it's like my 82 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: mom and my mom's friend are like making comments about 83 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: like how like the girls look rough, and I'm like, you, guys, 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: it's four thirty in the morning. They've been up for 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: hours just sweating. Um, And I think that our theory 86 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: been in. My theory is that the host of the show, 87 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: like the guest host, isn't doing the rose ceremonies because 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: like they just can't put in their contracts that they're 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: gonna do it at four thirty in the sweltering heat. 90 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: And then they're just like, well, so you can have 91 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: this job because well the professional like he can, he's 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: done it before, so you can actually get to that 93 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: time of the day, you know. But that makes complete sense. 94 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: And before we get into this week's recap or this 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: episode Tuesday's episode's recap, Um, you also are you're an 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: advisor for a dating app named catch, So can you 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: tell us about that and what qualifies you Chris Bakowski. Yeah, well, 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: so it's the Catches shoot that was from a while ago. 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: It actually got acquired, Um, just my friends started it 100 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: and it was pretty successful and obviously I should be 101 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: a professional dater by these times. Obviously not a successful 102 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: dater because I'm still single. Um, but yeah, I mean 103 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: I have my hand just a few different startups and stuff, 104 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: but that one was definitely special, definitely kind of had 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: a little actually bachelor concept to it. So I think 106 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: that's why it made sense to tie me in on it. 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: And was there a time of recent that you were 108 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: dating a fellow bachelor, a lum name Katrina, which I 109 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: mean Bukowski and Bodowski. Come on, guys, I know it 110 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: makes too much sense. No, Katrina is a good friend 111 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: of mine. Yeah, we dated. I guess you call it 112 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: dating for a little bit, but she's more of like 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: reach other's dates for weddings, you know, if she's in 114 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: Colorado or if she has a wedding in Illinois. So 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: we have a lot of mutual friends as well, and 116 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: just kind of a good time together. All right, Well, Chris, 117 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna say a quick break and then we're gonna 118 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: jump into the episode hosted by my friend Lance Bass, 119 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: which I was very excited about. Well we're back, alright, guys, 120 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: we are back with Chris Bukowski. Chris, how do you 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: think that Lance handled hosting this episode? I thought he 122 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: was fantastic because he came in with this the sense 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: of being a Bachelor fan. He said in one of 124 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: the hot topics that we were discussing yesterday that he 125 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: was a little like Bachelor fanboy star struck at first 126 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: just seeing the location, like being down in ply at 127 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Escondida and seeing some of his favorite cast members, especially 128 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: Joe and Uh. I just thought that he was so 129 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: sweet with the entrance, Like I mean, I am, you know, 130 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: biggest instinct fan of all time, and like when people 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: say that it's like no guys, like my room was 132 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: so crazy that my mom got the picture of my 133 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: room and like me and it in multiple teeny bopper 134 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: magazines like this is this is a real real thing. 135 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: So the way that they entranced him with the boom 136 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: box and when he came out and he was like 137 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: your host this week, it's gonna be me, I was like, 138 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, I would lose my mind. And I 139 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: was looking at some of these girls and I'm like, 140 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: you guys are too young to appreciate this. Oh. I 141 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: would have been dancing my ass off when that music 142 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: went out because I love in sync and I know 143 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: how much you'd like I remember, like you posting pictures 144 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: of your bedroom like on Instagram and stuff, and it's 145 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: all just boy band stuff. But I mean I loved 146 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: him personally, and I grew up with two older sisters 147 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: who two other sisters who also loved them the same. 148 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: He was like a boy band lover, even though it 149 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: wasn't cool to be when he was at it. I mean, 150 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: I would have been all in landspass would have been. 151 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I would have been really excited to see him there. Okay, 152 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: so let's see what happens. Starting off in this episode, 153 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, we were coming out of the row ceremony, 154 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Lance shows up. I guess the first big thing is 155 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: that Thomas walks in, and Thomas is very much hated 156 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: by the guys of Katie season, and there are a 157 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: lot of guys who had to be with him on 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Katie season right there when he walks in, and the 159 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: guys are kind of warning the girls, but the girls 160 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: at first don't seem to care. They're like, this guy 161 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: is he's a stud, he's super tall, Um, we don't 162 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: care what he's saying. We'd say yes to a date 163 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: with him. And then Joe has a pretty good sense 164 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: that he's going to be into Serena, and he was right. 165 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: He asked Serena on the date they go on the date, Um, 166 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: on the date, did you find how did you find 167 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Thomas to be like? Because he was very open about 168 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: the drama that went on during Katie season. Yeah, I 169 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: feel I feel like that's kind of him his role. 170 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: He I think he kind of eats up the drama 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: and kind of likes it, right, Um, and kind of 172 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: just kind of placed there for that specific reason. I 173 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: think we see it every season, right, there's an early 174 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: relationship being forms. All Right, here comes a guy who's 175 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: gonna try to, you know, put a spin into that. 176 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: And obviously that's kind of what he did and what 177 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: he was there for. Basically, the wonderful and glorious Ben 178 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Higgins just entered the room. He was he had a 179 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: business meeting he had to take care of. But Ben, 180 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about this week's episode talking about Serena and 181 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Thomas in their date and it seemed to be going well, right, 182 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean I could see her being a little turned off. 183 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: Um when he made mention of Trey and Trey being 184 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: maybe like a little bit emotionally weak. That is a 185 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: really weird thing to say about somebody that somebody is 186 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: now friends with on a first date with them, but 187 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: overall like they were kissing, she was kept talking about 188 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: how attracted she was. She even said, like, I had 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: so much fun on this date. I'm thinking she's gonna 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: go back and it's gonna be deja vu for Joe. 191 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: She's gonna be torn, she's gonna need the time to 192 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: figure out who she wants to be with. But then 193 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: walked down the stairs and Serena just like Joe, I 194 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: just want to be with you. I told him I 195 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: didn't want to pursue a relationship with him, and it 196 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: was so nice and it was a surprise, but I 197 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: also at the same time I wanted to see her 198 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: say that to Thomas. Yeah, I think it's just like that. 199 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, you had a little test of, oh, maybe 200 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: there's someone else I'd be interested in, and then you 201 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: will walk back and you're like, you're totally not. You 202 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: just want to be with that original person that you're 203 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of formed that early relationship with. And I think 204 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: there's a benefit of that actually happening earlier to you. 205 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: Then later on, um, you know, with Joe and Serena, 206 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: and then Serena being asked being asked out a date 207 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: earlier on rather than later on, because I feel like, um, 208 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. If it didn't work out, then you 209 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: can kind of either pursue someone else or just get 210 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: off of that island. You know, Ben, what were you 211 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: thinking about all the drama when Thomas entered. You know, 212 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: it's hard because I guess we now have the benefit 213 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: of knowing how the whole story plays out. I was 214 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: kind of on Thomas's team when he first came down, 215 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: and everybody was like bombarding him with like do you 216 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: remember who you are? And He's like yes, but I'm 217 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: trying to change and trying to be different, trying to 218 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: get better. Uh and and and I was like, okay, 219 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: well let's let's deal with that. Like, hey, this is 220 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: a chance for that. That's what Paradise is, you know, 221 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: it's a redemption time. It's a time to for people 222 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: to get to know, you know, in a different light. 223 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: And as we said, you know yesterday and the podcast 224 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: that happens every season where somebody that's the villain comes 225 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: on the Paradise and they they are are ideas of 226 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: them change a bit. Well, now, as I said, now 227 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: we have the light of the end of the show 228 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: where I'm like, Thomas, come on, man, like you had 229 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: this sitting in front of this opportunity sitting in front 230 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: of you to be that new person, to be that 231 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: person that just wanted to be there to pursue somebody 232 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: on the beach, and then you have to go on 233 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: and talk about these dudes behind the back. Now, did 234 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: he know how much that was gonna go back and 235 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: like hurt the others? No, I don't think so. I 236 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: think he was probably just like loose lipped, which is 237 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: probably a thing that he has to work on. He 238 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: probably wasn't very wise and what he was saying and 239 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: how he was saying it, And so of course Trey 240 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be hurt. He was already hurt before. Now 241 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: you give him a little it of you know, light, 242 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: and you know, Thomas comes in and shuts that door 243 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: and says, no, I'm gonna keep talking about yet, and 244 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna talk about how you're 245 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: emotionally weak. And like I think Serena, I think said 246 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: it in the best way where she's like it felt 247 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: like Thomas was talking about Tray like Thomas was Thomas 248 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: was Tray's dad, which is just never a good place 249 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: to speak from about anybody from is like, hey, I 250 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: know more, they know less, So I'm gonna teach them 251 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: how they can be better. Like that's not ever gonna work. 252 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: And so I think that's where like it frustrated me. 253 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I get why people like Thomas. I get why. You know, 254 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: he's a big dude. It shows him in the beach 255 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: and everybody like infatuated with him. Um, I wanna I 256 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: want to know from you too, though, something really interesting 257 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: that Joe said, And both of you have been in 258 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: this environment before where you know, somebody that you're pursuing, 259 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: somebody that you're into, does go on a date with 260 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: somebody else? You what you watch that happen? Uh? And 261 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: everybody acts like, hey, this is just part of the experience, 262 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: and I know it is to some level, but like, 263 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: what does that feel like? Can you guys give us 264 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of an idea of like in the heart, 265 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: like how that just feels Not only does it rip 266 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: away your confidence or at least would rip away at 267 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: my confidence, it would also make me question everything. And 268 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: and here's the part that maybe you guys can yell 269 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: at me for and say you're wrong, Ben, you could 270 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: be better than this. It would be really hard for 271 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: me because of having experiences in the past with being 272 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: cheated on, with letting that person back in. Well, it's 273 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: the worst feeling in the entire world besides like morning. 274 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: To me, that was the worst feeling in the entire 275 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: world to have to witness it in first person. Um, 276 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know about the cheating thing, but and I 277 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: don't mean to say compare it to cheating, so it's 278 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: not comparable to cheating. But I'm just my my sensitivity 279 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: to that is like, you know, in my mind as 280 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm watching this happen with Joe and Syreen and I 281 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: don't think she's anything wrong. Um, but what if I'm 282 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: sitting with if I'm Joe sitting on the couch, I 283 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: was trying to put myself in issues and what I 284 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: would what I would probably be doing saying like hey, 285 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: you're still great and like I know we probably could 286 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: have something, but like I've closed this this in my heart, 287 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: like I can't I can't go, I can't see this 288 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: again or it takes some work. Like that's where I 289 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: would be sitting. It's not saying hey, that's like cheating. 290 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: It's not comparable that, but it's like I just know 291 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: how fast I say no, I'm sorry, it's done really okay. 292 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: So for my experience there, all I did was hope 293 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: and pray that he was going to come back and 294 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: be like, no, I had fine time, but I want 295 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: to be with you. Like I think the entire day 296 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: is just like spent trying to have a positive outlook, 297 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: which we see Joe and Connor do in this situation. 298 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: And I just love Joe's real nous. Holy moly, I 299 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: just like pray to the Joe gods. When he says 300 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: things like, um, I hope you have a bad time, 301 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: like thank you for your realness. Connor is like I 302 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: just hope she has fun. It's like, no, you don't. 303 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: And then like Joe says fun things like oh leo, 304 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: yeah I can hate that guy, and I still can 305 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: hate that guy. I'm like yes, Joe. And then when 306 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: she comes back and they're sitting on the bed and 307 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I figured you could get back to me. Yeah. 308 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: I figured I was a better kisser than him. I 309 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: just love it so much. Chris, how does this make 310 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: you feel? Can you explain it? Then? Yeah, I mean 311 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: for me, and I was just thinking, all you guys 312 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: are talking, I actually never have had that experience on Paradise. 313 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: As many times I've been on it, no one that 314 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: I was with actually left and went on a different 315 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: date with someone else. Um, so I never got to 316 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: experience you I got to you know, I was actually 317 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: on the other side where I went on the date 318 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: and left who I was with behind. And yeah, I 319 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: could only imagine, you know, because with with last season Paradise, 320 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: when I was on I went on a date with 321 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: Jen Saviano when I was pretty far along, you know, 322 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: with with Katie, and the whole time, honestly, I was 323 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: kind of like thinking of how she would feel right 324 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: sitting on the beach while we're out, you know, having 325 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: this this date where I was actually throwing up the 326 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: whole time. So it wasn't that great. Um, But yeah, 327 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: you think about that person, right, especially if you care 328 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: about them, So you know, I kind of wouldn't put 329 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: myself in the other person's shoes to see, you know, 330 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: how they would feel and then how you can interact 331 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: with that person when you get back, right, And I 332 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,359 Speaker 1: think for me, it was just more of a reassurance 333 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: thing that I was actually with the right person, you know, 334 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: at that time. I can't imagine it. I don't think 335 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: i'd like it. I don't think i'd be good at it. 336 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: I think I would really like mess with the with 337 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: my my soul or my romantic soul. I think it 338 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: would close me up. I think I would be the 339 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: guy at the bar with well as the whole time 340 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: just being like just talk to me, like just hold me, 341 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: let me drink, let me sit here, and let me 342 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: just like yeah, just like give me a hug, buddy. 343 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: And as much as you want them to come back, 344 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: you're also dreading the moment that they come back, because 345 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: that's like the moment of truth. How supportive his like traditionally, 346 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: how supportive are the other people on the beach? I mean, 347 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of it this episode, and 348 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: it felt like people had some good like social awareness, 349 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: and they were like, Okay, this has to hurt for Connor. 350 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: Let's go talk to Connor. Oh, Joe wants his space, 351 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: but this has to suck for Joe. And they weren't 352 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: like bashing the people for going on dates that ever 353 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: was happening and nor should it, But they were like 354 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: very aware and like very family ask and how they 355 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: were dealing with a person hurting. We've seen that so 356 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: far this season. Do is that something that happens every 357 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: season or is this kind of new and unique for 358 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: this cast? I think I think it's generally their support 359 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: when that person is, you know, on the beach waiting 360 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: for you know, the person are with to come back. 361 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: I think that's just kind of nature hopefully, like people 362 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: are kind of better that way of kind of supporting 363 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: people in that situation rather than be like, oh, I'm 364 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: glad that you know that person went on the date 365 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: and you're suffering. But I feel like it's generally positive. 366 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, depending on how far along you 367 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: are in a relationship, people will take you seriously or 368 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: not as seriously. I don't know that I was taking 369 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: as seriously you were until you were. I was not 370 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: because they were like, actually, you're not in a relationship 371 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: with Jared, and I'm like, yeah, well I am a 372 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: head um Anyway, Okay, let's go to the Riley and 373 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: Marissa date because it's the total antithesis of the Serena 374 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: and Thomas date. Because watching it, you're like, Okay, Connor 375 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: at home, has no freaking chance. I agree. I watch that. 376 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as he comes down, right, I mean, 377 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: we've had Raley on the podcast, right. He was great. 378 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: He's got super kind, um, super like generous with his 379 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: time with us. He was a great interview. I just 380 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: remember being like that guy, he's got it going on. 381 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: So as soon as he walks down the beach, I'm like, 382 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: this this trouble um for for whoever he chooses, because 383 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: whoever is with somebody is going to be left behind. 384 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: And then they go on this date and Chris, it's 385 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: it's interesting as you're watching this too, is like their 386 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: chemistry felt pretty dynamic, it felt pretty tangible. Um, as 387 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: soon as they really opened up and started talking, Uh, 388 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: it felt like there was something there. But here's my question, Chris, 389 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass it off to you to kind of 390 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: explain what you felt about the relationship. I also want 391 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: you to answer this. Um. You Uh, you've had been 392 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: around food for a while. I've eaten tongue in my 393 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: life multiple times. I've eaten tongue. Why did they bite 394 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: from the back end of the tongue. That's not like 395 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: the end of the tongue. I've ever eaten from is 396 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: like instead of eating from the tongue, they ate from 397 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: like the tendons that connect the tongue in the back. 398 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: That was confusing to me. I've never done it that way, Chris, 399 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: You've been around food? Is that how you would eat tongue? 400 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: And then what did you think about their relationship? So 401 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: my thought on that was it's not as rough from 402 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: the back, you know, as as um chewy, I guess, yeah, yeah, um, 403 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean the relationship in general seemed Yeah. 404 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean Riley's you know, he's a study, so it's 405 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I felt for Connor too. And when 406 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: Riley came on and you're just that's just kind of 407 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: the guy you don't want to see walk down those 408 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: stairs and you just feel immediately threatened, you know. Um. 409 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought the date was was going well 410 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I fell for Connor. I think Connors, 411 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: I think he's a he's a good guy, right, Yeah, 412 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny and dorky a little bit, but 413 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: uh yeah, you know, overall, I thought that date went 414 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: pretty well. You couldn't have two more opposite guys, though, 415 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: like not at all I agree, because like as soon 416 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: as they started talking about like the you know, their 417 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: date very quickly changed to be talking about sex, like 418 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: it went like how many people have you kissed? Or whatever? 419 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: And then I was like, okay, let's talk about sex um. 420 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: And as soon as that started to happen, and you 421 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: saw the like the light in both of their eyes 422 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: and the way they were like flirting with each other, 423 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: and then Lane's bass even said like, hey, they started 424 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: making out and I didn't know what to do because 425 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: they didn't really feel like they wanted to stop, and 426 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: I was just kind of standing there and I didn't 427 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: know to watch them or like leave the room or 428 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: which is a great moment as a host because like 429 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: you knew, you know, he he just literally probably like 430 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: had quarantine, showed up to the beach that day and 431 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: then that night gets thrown into his first hosting gig 432 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: and it's like I don't, I don't, I don't know 433 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: what to do here, Like what do I can't like 434 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: do I take on my phone and videotape? Who knows? Anyways, 435 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: And as soon as that happened, you could just tell 436 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: like you can't picture Connor having that kind of conversation 437 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: really like at that depth and at that like kind 438 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: of chemistry with her. It just felt like they those 439 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: two belonged in that moment and that nobody else mattered, 440 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: which means Connor at that point was kicked aside. Oh yeah, 441 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: there is like sexual chemistry there that I don't I 442 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: don't think that Connor like really omits that. And I 443 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: think that that was something that Marissa was probably looking 444 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: for him. And um and what I mean, of course, 445 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: like they Connor can have sexual chemistry with somebody. I'm 446 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: just saying that, like he doesn't admit sexuality in the 447 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: way that Riley does, and I think that that is 448 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: a quality that Marissa is looking for. Um, but guys, 449 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, they went to the boom Boom room 450 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: on night one. I don't think we've ever seen that before. 451 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: I don't think so either, But that I feel like 452 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: that it's kind of telling for like those like just 453 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: that whole atmosphere, right, you're just kind of you're kind 454 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: of looking for that like that quick kind of spark 455 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: or that quick even if it's a sexual kind of spark, 456 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: just because you're just kind of looking for anything really, right, 457 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: And uh, I think Riley obviously gives off those vibes, 458 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: So it was kind of easy for that there I 459 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: guess happened, um, but no, I think that might be 460 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: the first time ever that that that has happened on 461 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: night one. I would say the date was set up 462 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: for that moment, like you started talking about that stuff 463 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: and both of the us started clicking. You're like, where 464 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: is this going to end? With like a nice high five? 465 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: And like both them go back to their like corners. No, 466 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: I know a place for us to go. Yeah, I 467 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: mean that's what I'm saying. It's like as soon as 468 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: that date started to be asked those questions and those 469 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: they started to respond to the questions and the way 470 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: that they did, like this the date doesn't end, and 471 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: then like going to hang out back on the beach, 472 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: like no matter what happens in the boom boom room. 473 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: And you guys tell me, is it always like intercourse 474 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: or is it also just like a good place to 475 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: like a comfy bed to hang out in. I think 476 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: it can be both. I've never been there, Chris, Well, 477 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: from my experiences, you know, after like the first time, 478 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: after you actually do fully hook up and then you're 479 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: after that, you're just like wow, the air conditioning was great, 480 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, the beds are bigger, and then it's just 481 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: more of like all right, let's just go hang out there. 482 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I was different, but yeah, I mean generally it 483 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: wasn't always hooking up. Um, it was more of like 484 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: being more comfortable. I guess, do you Is there multiple rooms? Yeah? 485 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: There was, I believe, but only one had air conditioning, 486 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: one designated one that they called Boom Boom room, and 487 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: then there's other places that you could like find too. 488 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: You know. However, there's no privacy still. It's not as 489 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: if you're going into some camera less room. As we see, 490 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: there's a camera there. Yeah, I mean it's right in 491 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: front the bed on the ceiling. I remember. So we're 492 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: talking about this now, but me and Katie were in there, 493 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: uh and she goes up to the camera and she's like, 494 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: welcome to porn Hub. How do you get like, how 495 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: do you get past that? I mean, this is like 496 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of like people that would be 497 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: just like all right, let's let's like have this moment 498 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: together knowing that we're being watched. Like, how do you 499 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: not have that in the back of your head the 500 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: whole time? Yeah? I think just like in general, right 501 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: when we're the cameras are on you for the first 502 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: time in your life, you're just like you're kind of shy, 503 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: and then you just they're like, not even there. I 504 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: think it's the same kind of concept when you're here 505 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: in the boom boom room. Yeah, what about like the 506 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: control room, Like, let's pretend like we're in there. Do 507 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: you think that they're like, Okay, we won't watch right now, 508 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: we won't look at this one screen or do you 509 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: think that they're like, we're looking at the screen that's 510 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: when they start making the popcorn. Actually, that's yeah, they're 511 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: dial bit. That's weird to think about. I mean, I 512 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean that feels that feels it feels 513 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: odd and like knowing a lot of the people that 514 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: do sit in the control room, I don't have a 515 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if they would like get their jollies 516 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: having that going on. I wouldn't be surprised if that 517 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: overtime kind of turns off. But like, at the same time, 518 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: they probably have to watch it because you never know 519 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, right, they got to see what 520 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: tape is being filmed, So I mean wild stuff that 521 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: would have to be considered. Um that I've never thought 522 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: about until you just brought it up. Anyways. Uh, let's 523 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: uh so that relationship seems to be flourishing. The Thomas 524 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: and Trade drama sparks up again at the end of 525 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: the episode, with the two of them kind of like 526 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: we said at the beginning, kind of saying, hey, we're 527 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: not gonna like I don't want to talk to anymore. 528 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: Now we've seen two different moments here of confrontation so 529 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: far this season. This is the second really like direct, 530 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: hey I don't like you kind of confrontation. What did 531 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: you think of it? Uh? You know, Trey kind of 532 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: went down, knew what you wanted to say, said Thomas, 533 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: this is over, Like I don't want to talk to 534 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: you again. Is that fair? Thomas obviously wanted to say 535 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: something he wasn't like really given the opportunity, but should 536 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: he have been like what do you guys think of that? 537 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: My take is that I was frustrated that he didn't 538 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: get to say his piece. Um, I'm just not the 539 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: kind of person that would like that, would like even 540 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: leave that conversation or argument feeling like okay with it, 541 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: left with somebody like begging to say something and then 542 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: just walking away from it. I'd probably be like too 543 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: curious and like, honestly at the why why not here? 544 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: Or him out? And then if you don't like what 545 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: he says, then just ignore him for the rest of 546 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: the time. I agree. I mean, I always want to 547 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: hear what someone else has to say, right, It's almost 548 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: it's almost like it's fair that way. But even if 549 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: it's not what you want to hear back, So yeah, 550 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: it ending like that was it was just weird. So 551 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: I wish he had a chance to say say what 552 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: you wanted to say. I would agree and just and 553 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: and also just like for us selfishly, it's like I 554 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: want to know what's gonna be. Are you gonna dig 555 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: yourself into a bigger hole? Are you going to get 556 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: out of this hole? Is this gonna end like just 557 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: like cordially or what. But I just wanted to see 558 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: what he had to say, because I do I think 559 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: he was. I think he got caught again doing something 560 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: that hurt Trey, and I think that was the worst 561 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: thing he could have done for the moment and for 562 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: right after his whole apology. Um, now, Chris, I know 563 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: we're we only have a couple of more minutes here 564 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: with you, and you get a big day in front 565 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: of you, and we want to thank you for your time. 566 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: There's a there's a headline this week that I want 567 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: to talk to you and Ashley about because it shook me. Um. 568 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: There's a headline from David Spade that says what surprised 569 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: him most about hosting this show is a few things. 570 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: The lemurs, the crabs, a bunch of pretty people in jaguars. 571 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: That's why I want to come into this. Have you 572 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: ever experienced heard because jaguars do are loud? A jaguar 573 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: in paradise. Actually, oh no, I never. I never heard 574 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: of wild cats. So we actually saw one on one 575 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: of our dates. Even better one was we had monkeys 576 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: that made a home in the top of the like 577 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: where the guy slept in like our little tepee. On 578 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: the third day that I was there, I was sleeping 579 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: on the top bunk and I swear I'm like there's 580 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: something above me. Like for the first two nights, I 581 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: was there two in the morning. I don't know what 582 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: time it was, it was, it was the morning, and 583 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: this monkey landed on my bed while we were while 584 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: we were all sleeping and and I freak out, fly 585 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: off the bed. John, Paul Jones and Cam they all 586 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: see this happening, and they, you know, they fly out 587 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: the you know, the room with me and um we 588 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: stopped on the beach at night, and they didn't want that, 589 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: so they had like security watching us, like as we 590 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: were sleeping on the beach because it was dangerous. But 591 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: by the end of Paradise, there was baby monkeys that 592 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: were born above the guy's a little hot there. Oh 593 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: my god, how big was the first monkey? I mean 594 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: it was I mean it was like it looked like 595 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: a friendly monkey, but it was like this big with 596 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: a long gass tail. Um. But yeah, they come in. 597 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: They would you would see them come in the room 598 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: and they would steal stuff, like they would take stuff 599 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: like out of the room. Um. And they they owned 600 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: my whole. Like. I couldn't sleep after that for the 601 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: rest of the time I was there because I was 602 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: gonna say, could you how did you go to bed 603 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: at night knowing there's a monkey? I couldn't. I had 604 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: had this. The staff came in, they like barbed wired 605 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: the whole up top of the of the roof and stuff. 606 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: But they still were like getting around it. Um, but yeah, 607 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: I just us. Any of those guys that were, you know, 608 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: sleeping at that hot they'll they'll talk about the monkeys. 609 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Oh dude, but you saw the jaguars. So jaguars do 610 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: exist down there. Monkeys are So this is the stuff 611 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: we need to see. I'm telling you, this is the 612 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: stuff that intrigues me. This isn't just paradise. This is 613 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: like camp with camp with pretty people. Oh that's so wild. No, 614 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: the craziest animal experience we had there was I think 615 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: there may have been a I might be being dramatic 616 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: by saying it was a rattle snake, but there was 617 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: some snake in the rose ceremony Palapa, and like it 618 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: was it was like a thing for them to want 619 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: to get rid of it. So I feel like it 620 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: was kind of dangerous. I couldn't imagine being bitten by 621 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: a snake out there. I know one of the girls 622 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: had a snake in their suitcase. Um. On last season, 623 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: I would pick I would pick up and leave if that. 624 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: If there was a snake anywhere near me, I'd be 625 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: out there. Ben's like, why do you crazy people go there? 626 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: Oh this is insane, guys, Hey, I'm glad you sign 627 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: up for this. I'm glad. I'm glad people sign up 628 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: to watch their partners go on other days with other people, 629 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: for tears, for the heat, for the animals, for all 630 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: the good stuff that happens at Paradise. It's still entertaining 631 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: to watch. Chris. Thanks for joining us, man, it means 632 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: a lot, and I know you've got a lot going on. 633 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: So just thanks for coming on, Thanks for talking to 634 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: us about your experience. We're wishing the best, of course. 635 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate thanks and congressful with you guys. Been on 636 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: the wedding coming up, Ashley Jared on the baby, Hey, 637 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: thanks bye. All right, before we get into hot topics, 638 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: and I have two little notes from the episode that 639 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: I just wanted to like put out there as random thoughts. 640 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: Thomas saying multiple times that he's six six and like 641 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: at his nose was going to run into the wood 642 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: was like my first sign of me being like, Okay, 643 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: so maybe this guy does kind of suck, because you know, 644 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: the guys keep trying to convince us that he really sucks. 645 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: But that was like it was an action. It was 646 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: like something that I finally saw it in action. I 647 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: was like, he's that U is? Am I like coming 648 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: off on you on this like self describing thing. Is 649 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: it starting to bother you too? Oh my god? Ever 650 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: since you said it, I now noticed when people self described. 651 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: But like he was trying to make it a point 652 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: like I'm so I'm a big guy, like I'm I'm 653 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: so so hot and sexy I'm six six, and like 654 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: don't you want this when like having to bring attention 655 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: to it every time? I need to start doing that. 656 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: What if I like showed up to my date with 657 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: Jess AND's like, Jess, I'm six four, not very strong, 658 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: but like uber sexy. You should know it, Like I'm 659 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna run in I'm gonna run into walls with my 660 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: nose because I'm so tall. I think should like it. 661 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: He has such Josh Murray vibe. Is he not? He does? Yeah, 662 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: that's a good comparison. Um, that's a great comparison. I 663 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: haven't thought about that, but yes, very very similar. Okay. 664 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: And then my second thought is like poor Tashwan, Oh 665 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: my gosh, the best. She is the best and seeing 666 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: her just have to suffer through Riley asking Marissa out 667 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: on a date after she was like I've just been 668 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: waiting for you. You're the only person that came to 669 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: Paradise where she was so open and honest, And I 670 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: was like, go, girl, I'm so glad that you're putting 671 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: that out there because I really think that's going to 672 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: add to him asking you out. And then when he 673 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: said Marissa was like, oh my god, poor girl, poor girl. 674 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 1: She Um she might be a top three favorite Bachelor 675 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: in Paradise contestant for me. Ever, not only is she, 676 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: they're not like the most beautiful mess I've ever seen, 677 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: like her staying at the bar and wells his hander 678 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: paper towel, just wiping herself and then like doing the 679 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: robot arms like I don't know what to do with myself. 680 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: I don't know where to go. Just amazing, amazing human. Um. 681 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: It was sad. It was sad, but at the same time, um, 682 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: you know I Riley asked Marissa, Like it makes sense 683 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: now it like that, Yeah, that sucks, um that she 684 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: didn't get asked, but it's like everybody should be fine. 685 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: I didn't feel that bad for her because I just 686 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: don't know, like if if they would have had the connection, 687 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: they would not have Now that we see Riley in 688 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: his mode with Marissa, it would not have made any 689 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: sense and and I hope the taj one like learns 690 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: that soon. Enough, Okay, so let's get to some headlines 691 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: that we have just a couple some big headlines this week, 692 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: just a few. Obviously, we're doing two episodes this week. 693 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to the first episode, you should 694 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: go back and do it. We already broke down that 695 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: David Spade said that hosting was wild and weird and 696 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: that there's a ton of things going on. We also 697 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: have some news on Peter Webber. Peter Webber says past 698 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: relationship didn't work because of high expectations. This according to 699 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: e Yes, he said that he's had a few, you know, 700 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: failed bachelor relationships, and when he talks about this on 701 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: his podcast, he says, like, I feel like sometimes the 702 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: hopeless romantic in me kind of backfires because I put 703 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: such this high level of expectation on in my head. 704 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: And so I've been really kind of in the last 705 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: eight nine months really just realizing and observing how I've 706 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: been in the past and how I want to change 707 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: myself in the future and moving forward. I think that's 708 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: probably his my biggest achilles heel is honestly the hopeless 709 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: romantic in him. He says, it starts off great, it 710 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: starts off very passionate, a lot of fire, and I'm 711 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: all about that. Um, But if I'm being completely honest 712 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: with you, guys, may be I feel like I sell 713 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: sabotage relationships. I mean, I gotta give a lot of 714 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: respect to anybody that can admit that, and you can 715 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: do it from a place of Hey, I've got to learn. 716 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: Now he's going to be his worst critic. We all are. 717 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: We're are our worst critics are ourselves. But it also 718 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: shows when you can come into that criticism and maybe 719 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: you know a lot of it's not. Um, he's holding 720 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: himself now to a higher staniard than he should, which 721 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: he's doing it again, But he's also learning and I'm 722 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: hoping he comes from this learning some of the things. 723 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he believes he did that didn't work out 724 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: in the end. Well, um, big story, and I was 725 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: able to actually talk to the source of this story. 726 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: Bachelor to alum Jason Tartik says he was hit by 727 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: a car while walking his dog. Now, um, I've been 728 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: hit by a car. We've talked about in the podcast 729 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: before in college a minivan, Oh my god, and Jason 730 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: minivan two. Yeah. And so I texted Jason. I said, Jason, man, 731 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like I've been hit by a car too. 732 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: I know it messes with your head and if you 733 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: ever want to talk through it, like I know it. 734 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: I know even today I have some weird moments where 735 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: I'll be walking down the street of car will come behind. 736 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: I'll like shiver. And he he texted me back and 737 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: he said something that I never even thought of. And 738 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: then actually you can break down the story here in 739 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: a second, cause people don't know. But Jason was hit 740 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: by a car, and he said, the thing that scared 741 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: me the most was it hit my knee, which is 742 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: the same height as Pino's head. And that's where I'm 743 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: getting super like, that's what's messed with me the most. 744 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: So actually what happened with that caveat so he and 745 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Caitlin were walking to dogs and she was like a 746 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: block ahead of him and he just he's crossing the street. 747 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: It was go, you know, like he had the right 748 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: to go. And he had one dog, he had Pino 749 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: and then Caitlin had Ramen and um. Even though like 750 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: the light was for him. The minivan did not stop, 751 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: and he was able to maneuver Pino in a way 752 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: that he didn't get hurt at all. But Jason kind 753 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: of rolled up on the car and he just said 754 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: like everything was like fine, you know, he felt fine. 755 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: He just like really bruised and um. He kind of 756 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: like cursed out the driver and he was like I 757 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: didn't really even feel like stopping and like having a 758 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: chat with them. I just kind of walked away. Uh, 759 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: And they did file a police report on it. Yeah, Well, 760 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: a scary momentum for all involved. But the final headline 761 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: of the week Ashley Victoria Paul, who just saw Go 762 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: Home on the latest episode two episodes ago a guest 763 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: and she now is continued to deny that she has 764 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: a boyfriend back home. So we kind of left her 765 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: exit with this, like does she does she not? Well, 766 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: she's now saying no, she does not have a boyfriend 767 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: back home. Maybe she doesn't have a boyfriend right now. 768 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: But according to your pose on Instagram, where she posted 769 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: a picture with the guy in question, she said, at 770 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: Teddy Rob and I broke up in May, We've remained 771 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: great friends, asked the man, and then she calls him 772 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: the best dog, dad and friend, so obviously like they 773 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: did share a dog together. And then she um also 774 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: asked she was asked from a follower about breakup advice, 775 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: and she said, truthfully, I'm currently walking through this season. 776 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: I know that joy can still be found in the 777 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: midst of uncertainty. Give him or her grace and some 778 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: for yourself as well. So she is talking about still 779 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: having gone through a breakup now and just the note here, 780 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, Victoria was very honest about her going through 781 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: therapy and working through some things, not only just from 782 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: her life. So there is like a sensitivity of this 783 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: that we have to give, right. I mean, it is 784 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: a show and she does go home and we're all 785 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: confused on that she have a boyfriend? Does she not? 786 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: Is as fair ass not whatever, But like, um, the 787 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: point to all of it being is like, give her 788 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: some space now she's home. She she in my opinion, 789 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: and I know it might have felt like some the 790 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: safe choice, but in my opinion, she did the right thing. 791 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: She went home. She said, I'm out of here, like 792 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: this isn't for me anymore. I'm maybe he went here 793 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: to explore relationship. Maybe I didn't. Maybe already had a 794 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: relationship back home whatever, but she let home. She separated 795 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: herself from which I thought Blake Hortsman should have done 796 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: a few seasons ago. She should just gone home like 797 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: leave it, like leave it and go and deal with 798 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: this some other place because this isn't gonna work out 799 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: well for you. So Um, now that she's home, give 800 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: her space, give her grace. She's now Instagram officially said, Hey, 801 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: they're done, and they ended in May. Now I don't 802 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: know how long they were dating to have a dog together, 803 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: that's I mean, Jess and I don't have a dog together, 804 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: even though she love to have one. Pretty there you go. Well, uh, 805 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, give her some grace, give her some space, 806 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: let her breathe. Um, no reason to just like continue 807 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: to open up wounds when they've already been opened up. Hey. Um, 808 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we got for today, Ashley. Uh, 809 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: thank you for filling in for me earlier as I 810 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: had to step away and take on some other responsibilities. 811 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: But it's always good to sit down with you. Um. 812 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: We haven't done this yet. I just want to hear 813 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: as we close, what is your thoughts on Paradise so far? Like, 814 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: how are you feeling about it, and how do you 815 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 1: feel about Lance? Oh well, okay, So we talked about 816 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: Lance earlier in the episode, and I just love the 817 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: fact that he was such a fan boy, and I 818 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: love the fact that he talked to like I didn't 819 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: mention this. I love the way that he talked to 820 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: the girls, like he just sat around the kitchen table 821 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: and was like, so, what are we feeling? And I 822 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: feel like he was intuitive, and I just feel like 823 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: he is super enthusiastic and excited about it. Even the 824 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: way that he like hosted the one on one day, 825 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: you can just tell that he was like, oh my god, 826 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm posting a one on one UM, 827 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: And what do you think about Lance? I thought it 828 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: was great. I thought he was just what this show 829 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: needed this week. I thought he did interact well with 830 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: the cast. You know, I'm imagining that when you get 831 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: asked the guest host, it's kind of up to you 832 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: and how much you guest host, because I'm assuming it's 833 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 1: a flat fee, and you're like, you just get paid 834 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: to host this week, and here's your core responsibilities. Say 835 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: hi to everybody, host a date, close it out right. 836 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: And Lance like went above and beyond, Like he's not 837 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: getting paid for that chat with the girls. He's like, 838 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: I just want to be here. Hey, I'm already here. 839 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out like I'm a big fan of Paradise. 840 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: I see the bar that wells you know Barton's from. 841 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm seeing the table and the command is in the 842 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: booming room, and I just want to hang out the cast. Um. 843 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I thought he was fantastic. 844 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: I thought I fit it well. I'm excited to see 845 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: what he does next week with it. I thought it 846 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: was hilarious though. I just thought I was laughing when 847 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: he was in that room hosting that I was thinking about, 848 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, me standing in that room as two people 849 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: making out, being like, this is where my hosting skills die, 850 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what to do now. That is 851 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: such a good point. And then your other question, how 852 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: do I feel? Overall? I definitely find myself more intrigued 853 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: in certain storylines than others. Um maybe okay, so obviously 854 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: like Joe and Serena. And that's because I know Joe personally. Um, 855 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: that's the one I'm drawn to the most. It's whatever 856 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: Tajuan is on the screen. I am dialed in. Um. 857 00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: I also like I'm pretty invested in Natasha and where 858 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: things are and where Brendan's at and how he's going 859 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: to get so so caught next week? Can I comment 860 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: on that? We know Natasha, She's beautiful, beautiful, what a catch? 861 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: I mean, like that girl out of any girls and 862 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: I don't know many of them on the beach, but 863 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: like she should be pursued and like she should be 864 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: the one that everybody's like on Natasha, Like I get 865 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: to take her on the date, Holy moly, Like she's 866 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: just awesome, and it feels like right now she's in 867 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: a place where she's gotten herself in a situation where 868 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: she's not being pursued. He's not kissed her yet, Like 869 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: what that that's a dead giveaway that he's waiting for 870 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: pipe rating. Yeah yeah, so like let her go. That 871 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: would be my comment is like let her go so 872 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 1: that she can figure it out. Because Natasha is incredible. 873 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: She showed up to the beach, has a lot going 874 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: on in life, she's a rock star. Like then let 875 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: her have her space, you know, end it and let 876 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: her move on. I don't know. That frustrated me because 877 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of her, big fan. All right, Ben, 878 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: Well until next week and I see your lovely face again. 879 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: Until then, I've been Ashley, and I've been Ben. 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