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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: show on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Steelers Nation, and welcome once again to the

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Speaker 2: upmc rooney Sports Complex for another day of mini camp

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Speaker 2: coverage here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: It is a special edition of the Steelers Blitz on

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Speaker 2: location here once again from ten Blitz the Steelers Blitz.

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Speaker 2: I just combined both of our shows there, didn't we.

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Speaker 3: Part of that today?

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Speaker 4: It is the Drive, of course, that is right. This

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Speaker 4: is the Drive.

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Speaker 2: This is the flagship show of everything we do here

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio networking here Matt Williams and there

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Speaker 2: I am West Ruler calibrating down here on the south

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Speaker 2: side as we will be with you for three hours

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Speaker 2: of what is once again a special edition of the Blitz. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly resting those vocals as well deserved listen. I

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Speaker 2: keep I keep telling Dale if you you got to

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Speaker 2: get back to one hundred percent this time of year,

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Speaker 2: because if you don't, you never will.

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Speaker 5: No doubt. Well, we do a nice break coming up,

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Speaker 5: though we do. The Drive does not sleep during that break.

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Speaker 2: No, we we don't on the on the blitz as

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Speaker 2: well too. We might you know, do a little less

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Speaker 2: show here or there while someone's on vacation or something

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Speaker 2: like that. But uh, certainly an important day here today, Penn,

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Speaker 2: ultimate day of this week.

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Speaker 5: Just players with their health though, I mean, you gotta

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Speaker 5: be training camp is the key.

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Speaker 3: Not slowing down then, ever.

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Speaker 4: Training camp is the key.

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, that's kind of the last chance that

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Speaker 2: you have to feel one hundred percent because it will

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Speaker 2: not slow down again until you know, deep into the winter,

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Speaker 2: in about January or February. So yeah, letting h letting

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Speaker 2: Dale rest up here for another day. You'll have myself

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Speaker 2: and Matt have a plenty for us to get to here.

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Speaker 2: Matthew on another high one, another beautiful one. And I

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Speaker 2: was not here yesterday, which was of course the first

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Speaker 2: day of mini camp practice, the first day that we've

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Speaker 2: seen Aaron Rodgers out here in the black and Gold.

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Speaker 2: I got to imagine the energy, the anticipation. There was

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Speaker 2: a different fuel to business down here yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I would have maagine one thousand percent. So to pull

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Speaker 5: back the curtain they're they're treating this week unlike the

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Speaker 5: last two weeks much like the regular season where they're stretching.

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Speaker 5: Now they're gonna do like a walk through. Then they

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Speaker 5: go into building for a couple hours, eat meetings, you know,

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Speaker 5: treatments if needed, et cetera, et cetera, maintenance whatever, and

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Speaker 5: then they come back out at one when we're coming

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Speaker 5: off the air. So that's when they will have a

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Speaker 5: full mini camp practice. So I saw mini camp, or

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Speaker 5: I saw it stretching in all this stuff, you know,

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Speaker 5: the walkthrough stuff yesterday, But I had to go do

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Speaker 5: other podcasting requirements at home, so I wasn't able to

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Speaker 5: stick around for the practice practice. But you're a thousand

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Speaker 5: percent right, I mean, parking here to pull back the curtain,

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Speaker 5: it's ever easy. But yesterday was bonkers. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think there was more national media media, there was more

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Speaker 5: local media than usual. There was absolutely a buzz. There

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Speaker 5: was our folks in the video department to our right

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Speaker 5: that you know, anxiously awaiting with cameras and Rogers and

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Speaker 5: and you know during the walkthrough, Rogers really just was

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Speaker 5: going over things real meticulous. It looked like, I mean,

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Speaker 5: all eyes were on I'm including myself, even though they

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Speaker 4: It'd be hard to change that for at least a

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Speaker 4: few practices, I.

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Speaker 3: Would think all week.

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Speaker 5: But there was absolutely an enthusiasm, a buzz, you know.

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Speaker 5: Rob King sat down with us. Maybe we'll get him

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Speaker 5: again today and just kept saying. And as I was

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I did this whole thing because so I went back

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Speaker 2: and looked Matt. It was the third week in March

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Speaker 4: Since Matt.

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Speaker 2: It was the opening round of March Madness. Wow, Like,

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Speaker 5: Bad where NHL Playoffs were in NBA.

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Speaker 2: And we we weren't even close to the Masters at

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Speaker 2: that place. You know. Now, the US Open is tea

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Speaker 4: It was still chilly and windy.

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Speaker 2: We had just gotten back from from the combine Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: but we were still a month away from the draft

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Speaker 2: at that point. I spent a lot of time throughout

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Speaker 2: that process telling myself this is going to happen, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, especially at that point.

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Speaker 4: Especially especially at that point.

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Speaker 2: But I think there was also in the back of

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Speaker 2: Like I think in my mind I was telling myself

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm sure you got something this too. A

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Speaker 5: lot of the fan base was like, what you're waiting for?

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Speaker 4: Right right? You heard that from a lot of different places.

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Speaker 2: But then the moment that it happened last week, and

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Speaker 2: the press conference stuff that we'll hear from a little

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Speaker 2: instantly turned back into that football fan, and this is

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Speaker 2: a guy who is one of the greatest to ever

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and just full transparency when it was announced

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Speaker 5: what felt like five minutes after Ota ended it.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's the why.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this was probably not set up, but probably

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Speaker 5: he said, let's finalize it as soon as ta's are

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Speaker 2: Be he said, I'm getting I'm getting married. I'm not

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Speaker 5: You know, they are optional, folks. He has plenty of

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Speaker 4: Page with it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be there, and so if I'm not

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Speaker 5: So we'll start it then get the timeline rolling. I'm

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Speaker 5: from there. And when it happened, I'm like, I totally

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Speaker 5: get it. And frankly, when it happened, I'm like, darn,

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Speaker 5: we just go off the air. It's gonna be until

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Speaker 5: like you said, fanboy, it's like I did one four

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Speaker 5: see him live, you know. I mean, there's definitely a

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Speaker 4: Come up, meet Joe Green. So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: It was two thousand and five when Aaron Rodgers was drafted. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what were you doing in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: I was in the room.

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Speaker 2: I thought that I thought that that was the timeline there.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I was in eighth grade still, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was in high school when he really burst onto

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Speaker 2: the scene. I was in college when he was kind

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Speaker 2: of the unquestioned best or second best quarterback in the

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Speaker 5: I was on ESPN saying he's the best quarterback in

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Speaker 5: the world, Yeah, right, and those.

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Speaker 4: Like It is a it is a very it's a

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Speaker 2: Kind of full circle kind of emotions that you go

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Speaker 4: And like I said, yeah, I was so.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I didn't play Madden, but I'm sure you

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Speaker 5: you know, when you were in your formative years and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was Me and my buddies would be

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Speaker 4: Double check guts, you know, when we when we maybe.

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Speaker 2: Pulled the right card in the card game or hit

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Speaker 4: This is when the best to ever do it.

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Speaker 2: This is a guy who, I mean, I think, until Mahomes,

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Speaker 4: He's thrown.

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Speaker 5: There was a portion deep into my career before I'd

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Speaker 5: ever heard the name Pat Mahomes that I said, if

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Speaker 5: we're picking any quarterback I've ever seen, he's my first pick.

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Speaker 4: I'm guaranteed to get an A plus game that he's

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Speaker 4: my first pick.

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Speaker 5: That's my first pick. Brady Manning, Marino.

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Speaker 4: All those guys alway far of.

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Speaker 5: Ivy or Stint there. I said that regularly on the air.

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Speaker 2: I am with you as well too. There was a

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Speaker 2: football fan, if you were a sports fan. Ten seasons

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Speaker 2: where he's thrown for more than four thousand yards, three

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Speaker 2: seasons where he's thrown for forty or more touchdown passes.

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Speaker 2: I still think his twenty twenty season might be the

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Speaker 2: best season I've ever seen for a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Forty forty eight.

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Speaker 2: Touchdowns, only five interceptions, with a seventy point seven percent

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Speaker 5: And real quick like on that TD interception stuff Like

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Speaker 5: I didn't really know this until the Steelers signed Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 5: because Russell Wilson's third behind Mahomes and Rogers in touchdown

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Speaker 5: to the interception ratio all the time. Yes, yeah, like I

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Speaker 5: I forget, But Roger Wilson's three of the best touchdown

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Speaker 5: the interception ratio in the history of this game.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you and and if you look online, you

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Speaker 2: you have to have played so many games, averaged so

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Speaker 2: many pass attempts, so many overall attempts, all that different thing.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, his percentage is the lowest in history, in

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Speaker 4: That meets all of those qualifiers.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, he hasn't been doing that playing safe,

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Speaker 2: playing check down Charlie type football. He's been doing that

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Speaker 4: You are correct and harder to do.

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Speaker 2: Both Yes, one and four against the Colts, three and

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Speaker 4: Were dead last. Well done by Tom.

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Speaker 4: Out of number eight.

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Speaker 2: what what does that kind of pantheon look like for you?

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Speaker 4: Is Brady one, Kadi.

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Speaker 5: And Peyton Manning and Rogers is right there too.

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Speaker 2: Like that's kind of a mount rushmore of of the

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Speaker 2: pre snap off the shoulders guys Yeah, yeah, that makes

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Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And hey, while again he ain't

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Speaker 2: thirty three anymore, that part of his game is as

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Speaker 2: strong as it's as it's ever been.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think they're going to run wrong plays

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Speaker 5: into the teeth of the correct ever correct even just

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Speaker 5: doing that Art and Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: his last year when he was with the Broncos after

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Speaker 5: a neck surgery, and he could barely he.

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Speaker 4: Could barely throw the ball.

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Speaker 2: And now that was a and that was a great

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Speaker 2: I mean all time in the conversation type defense. You're

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Speaker 2: you are absolutely right. They could run the football, he

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Speaker 2: could make the throws when he had to, and they

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Speaker 2: leaned on their defense. Yeah, and they they did that

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Speaker 2: all the way to a to a Lombardi Trophy. And

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Speaker 2: and certainly we think Aaron Rodgers still has more in

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Speaker 2: the tank than we saw from Peyton Manning that final seal.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers spoke yesterday, talked about a lot of these

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Speaker 2: things that we've discussed. Will hear from him what he

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Speaker 2: had to say when we returned on the other side,

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Speaker 2: West Huler.

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Speaker 4: And Matt Williamson. It's a special edition of The Drive.

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Speaker 2: Here at Mandatory Mini Camp, day number two on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, as we roll along, Drive along

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Speaker 2: here on day number two of Mini Camp from the

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Speaker 2: South Side, as it's another day of.

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Speaker 4: Mandatory practice for your Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Steelers, another day of number eight down here on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Of course, yesterday his first, I guess, official introduction as

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Speaker 2: a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. First time we saw

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Speaker 2: him in a uniform, first time we've seen him out

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Speaker 2: here on the fields, all those good stuff, and of course,

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Speaker 2: mad I mean, you gotta have the introductory press conference

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Speaker 2: for all the assembled.

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Speaker 5: I know, I'm anxious to hear it. I have not yet.

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Speaker 5: It's like to suity to say. I think he talked

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Speaker 5: for quite a while, he did.

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Speaker 2: I think it's about twelve thirteen minutes here that we're

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Speaker 2: gonna play for you in just a second. And I

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Speaker 2: was laughing today I was listening to the DV morning shows.

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Speaker 2: I was driving down here, you know, our buddy Mike

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Speaker 2: Persuda doing his sports reports, and he was running through

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Speaker 2: the gambit of all the national people who were here

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Speaker 2: at practice. There's a bunch of US and the NFL

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Speaker 2: Network in USA Today and the Sporting News and you

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Speaker 2: know Pro Football Focus that he was rattling off all

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Speaker 2: the different you know, a dozen or so national outlets

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Speaker 2: that were down here yesterday to get their pictures, to

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Speaker 2: get their videos, to get their questions for Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: and his first go here in the Black and Gold.

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Speaker 2: Here's what the four time MVP had to say.

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Speaker 6: Was good, good to be out here with you guys.

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Speaker 7: Still learning the offense, but good to be good to

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Speaker 7: be in New Jersey and cleets again.

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Speaker 4: I long to take an acting thing.

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Speaker 7: Pick you offense, I mean, that's all those are two

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Speaker 7: different things, the offense. Uh, it's a lot of the

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Speaker 7: similar terms from the Shannan offense. So I got a

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Speaker 7: lot of stuff already booked. There's a couple of new

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Speaker 7: words and different things formationally, but I haven't figured out,

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Speaker 7: you know, in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Probably you've visited here only seventy days ago, what made

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Speaker 2: now the right.

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Speaker 5: It's been a little bit.

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Speaker 2: What made now the right time to sign a deal

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Speaker 2: with the New York Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was dealing with a lot of things

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Speaker 7: in my personal life and uh some things UH improved

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Speaker 7: a little bit where I felt like I could fully

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Speaker 7: be uh all in here with the guys. I had

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Speaker 7: great conversation with Mike throughout the entire process and Omar.

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Speaker 7: But it's good to get that done and get behind us.

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Speaker 2: Er.

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Speaker 6: Why was the Steelers the right fit for young?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 6: You know, I think it starts with Mike Toumblin and

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Speaker 6: then I've been a fan of his for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 7: There's a few iconic franchises in the NFL. I played

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Speaker 7: for one of them for eighteen years. This is another

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Speaker 7: one one of those. Uh there's something special about uh

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Speaker 7: obviously this this area. So many great quarterbacks are from Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: I feel like Pittsburgh has been a part of my

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Speaker 7: career from the beginning. Uh, playing for Mike McCarthy for

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Speaker 7: thirteen years, having Tom Clements with Tommy Clements to been

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Speaker 7: out old your uh as my quarterback Hoast Forever, Dom Caper's, uh,

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Speaker 7: Kevin Green, Darren Perry, uh, Ben McAdoo, Frank Signetti, Uh,

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Speaker 7: Luke getsy. I don't wanna forget anybody, but a lot

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Speaker 7: of injuris in my life.

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Speaker 2: You would said you'd said a weekend a draft, you

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Speaker 2: were leading all off until for including retiring, how Serf felt.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't in your mind that you went.

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Speaker 7: Through the process that you were going to play for

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it was super clear cut. I didn't

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Speaker 7: want to short change the guys, uh and be you know,

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Speaker 7: sign but be elsewhere mentally or physically, so until I

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Speaker 7: could be here uh and be all in. You know,

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Speaker 7: I needed to take care of my business. I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: keep that between me and the guys.

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Speaker 3: Kim, you were talking about the podcast this morning about how.

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Speaker 6: Important it would be rid this morning.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, but he talked about the leadership that you

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Speaker 4: could bring.

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Speaker 5: The opative side of the ball, and how that will

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Speaker 5: be very important.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: How about your that with the conversation firstart about what

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Speaker 4: you can be.

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Speaker 6: As a leader.

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Speaker 7: I think I just want to be a servant leader

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Speaker 7: here and just pass on the knowledge that I have

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Speaker 7: between years, the experience, and just try and fit in

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Speaker 7: with the guys, get to know them, let them get

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Speaker 7: to know me. And just enjoy the process. You know,

568
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Speaker 7: this is everything's new. It's like the first day of school.

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Speaker 7: I don't know a lot of guys' names. They don't

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Speaker 7: have names on the back of the jerseys here, they

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Speaker 7: don't have names on the doors and the meeting rooms.

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Speaker 7: I literally rock out of locker room lost, try and

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Speaker 7: grab somebody. Hey where am I going? But I'll get

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Speaker 7: the feel of it, and and I'm excited about making

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Speaker 7: this home.

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Speaker 4: Aaron, At that point in your life, why why do you.

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Speaker 3: Still want from you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean I think that's what it is like.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't need it for my ego.

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Speaker 7: I don't need it to keep playing. A lot of

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Speaker 7: decisions that I've made over my career and life from

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Speaker 7: strictly the ego, even if they turn out well, are

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Speaker 7: always unfulfilling. But the decisions made from the soul are

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Speaker 7: usually pretty fulfilling. So this was the decision that was

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Speaker 7: best for my soul. And I felt like being here

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Speaker 7: with Coach t and the guys they got here and

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Speaker 7: the opportunity here was the best for me, and and

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Speaker 7: I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: Aaron. Is it different physically being two almost two years

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Speaker 2: out from the Hillies as it was posed to one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I'm forty one, so my body feels

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Speaker 7: different than it did it twenty five.

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Speaker 6: But uh, I feel better. I feel good. Last year.

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Speaker 6: You know, I worked really hard. It was a tough

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Speaker 6: couple of years getting hurt and then reapving for a

596
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Speaker 6: year to get back. But I feel good.

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Speaker 5: Erond kind of about along those lines after the way

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Speaker 5: things on port last year.

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Speaker 3: What do you feel is different about this organization? If

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Speaker 3: I physically or mentally that will need.

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Speaker 4: More successful or.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take any shots at

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Speaker 7: at my previous organization. That's what you're trying to get

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Speaker 7: me to do. I'm just gonna talk about these guys.

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Speaker 7: I like the opportunity here. I like to to feel

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Speaker 7: with the guys. I like how Mike t has been

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Speaker 7: in the meetings. Tom Arthur and I known each other

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Speaker 7: since two thousand and six. He was in my quarterback room.

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Speaker 7: Uh our first off season together. Still has the prettiest

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Speaker 7: drop I've ever seen, So it was good to good

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Speaker 7: to see him. Arthur, I've known for a number of years.

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Speaker 7: I see everybody in the Shannan Tree is close enjoyed,

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Speaker 7: uh our conversations over the last few months, and and

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Speaker 7: and the one on one times we've had in the

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Speaker 7: meeting rooms looking at film and talking about the offense

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Speaker 7: that job.

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Speaker 6: To appreciate about the city of Pittsburgh and what are

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Speaker 6: you looking forward to experiencing more out you know, living

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Speaker 6: there and working.

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Speaker 7: I love the Greenfield Avenue area. Mike told me to

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Speaker 7: say that. No, I mean this is a blue collar town.

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Speaker 7: You know that the history of this this great area

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Speaker 7: is built U building the structure of the country. So

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Speaker 7: a lot of great people here, l great fan base.

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Speaker 7: You know, we played here over the years. They even

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Speaker 7: got their own song they play, you know late in

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Speaker 7: the third or in the fourth quarter. But it's a special,

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Speaker 7: special place uh to play sports. Uh just great, great

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Speaker 7: to blue collar people. And uh I'm excited to uh

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Speaker 7: meet some of the fans along the way. And what

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Speaker 7: winning big and winning a championship maybe even astrology and

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Speaker 7: concs at first.

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Speaker 6: Coming, I'd made the seventh championship for the city, right,

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Speaker 6: I'll be that'd be.

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Speaker 7: Great, though, is there you know drive for you that

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Speaker 7: volt the motivation terms of pursuing that. I have a lot,

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Speaker 7: I have a lot that motivates me. But this is

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Speaker 7: about the love of the game, the game that's given

639
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Speaker 7: me so much over the years. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: making peace with a nice long.

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Speaker 2: Career as a couple of times is the earliary already.

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Speaker 6: That hits the same heart.

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Speaker 5: What made is attractive destination?

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Speaker 7: Mm, I mean that was part of it. Yeah, I

645
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Speaker 7: mean I liked I liked Arthur obviously, I've known Tom forever.

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Speaker 7: A big attraction was Mike Tumnell. I've uh gone to

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Speaker 7: get some over the years. The way that the conversations

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Speaker 7: went between him and I, uh, between whatever it was

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Speaker 7: in March or April, and uh, you know, the last

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Speaker 7: Sunday when I called him was uh some of the

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Speaker 7: coolest conversations I've had in the game, definitely with the

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Speaker 7: head coach. So he's a big reason I'm here. I

653
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Speaker 7: believe in him and and uh excited play for him.

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Speaker 4: What where?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 3: What makes you feel that?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 4: Why do you say that say about my phone?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 3: What has he kind of showed you and rubbed off

661
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Speaker 3: on you?

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Speaker 6: Brother?

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Speaker 7: I mean we have some We've had some great conversations,

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Speaker 7: and I just appreciated the way that that he treated

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Speaker 7: me throughout the process.

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Speaker 4: What a dam that at partner's game that she decided to.

667
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 6: Work with the next station.

668
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 7: The DK has been blowing me up for a while.

669
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 7: You know, we we uh got to get together out west,

670
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 7: but uh, I've gone against him a number of times.

671
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 7: He's big, athletic, uh fast, got great hands ball skills.

672
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 7: But the thing that that really is excites me the

673
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 7: most is his character. I think he's a high character guy.

674
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 7: You know, I was teasing the first conversation we had.

675
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 7: He said, yes, sir, like ten times. I said, is

676
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 7: that cause I'm forty one? He said, no, that's how

677
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 7: I talk.

678
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 6: So I just I like.

679
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 7: I like his whole his whole personality and his approach

680
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 7: and the way he is on the field, his professionalism.

681
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 7: Pat been blowing me up mostly on DMS and on

682
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 7: on on the GRAM, but uh, I've had respect for

683
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 7: his game for a while too. He was just teasing

684
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 7: me about two minute starters there at the end. But

685
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 7: I like, I like the opportunity to work with all

686
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 7: the guys in the tight end room, and there's a

687
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 7: lot of guys with different skill set. I told Darnell today,

688
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 7: I haven't had a tight end like him since Mercedes

689
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 7: and Mercedes all time great. Uh, Darnelle is like a

690
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 7: young Mercedes, able to do things in the passing game,

691
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 7: dominate the line of scrimmage. Connor had a really nice

692
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 7: day to day after making plays. So there's a lot

693
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 7: of lot of guys in that room with the great

694
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 7: skill sets.

695
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: Aaron, you see having another workout with any of the

696
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Speaker 2: guys between now and training them.

697
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Speaker 7: I do, I just gotta get him. I I gotta

698
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 7: try and convince him to come out to Malibu, California.

699
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a tough sell. I think tough sell.

700
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: Did you.

701
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Speaker 6: I did? Yeah?

702
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: I did.

703
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Speaker 6: I Did.

704
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 7: You meet you're meeting your earlier in the year.

705
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: Did you believe with any material just to study what

706
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: they do or anything like that.

707
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 6: No, I just got in my Malibu and UH took off.

708
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: Process this off season.

709
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Speaker 2: Help.

710
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: You said they have the organizations. Did you may know

711
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: your options or what you decide that you were they

712
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: during the season?

713
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: Really you know the chosen that offer you?

714
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: Uh?

715
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Speaker 7: You know, I mean I think there was conversations with

716
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 7: other organizations for sure, but uh, again, the the rapport

717
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 7: that it that fell in between me and Mike, uh

718
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 7: made it to where as I was going through my

719
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 7: personal stuff. Uh, there wasn't any other option for me.

720
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 7: It was here and I play you're in.

721
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

722
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Speaker 2: In your documentary you said you at the point your

723
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: career you don't put you the believe anything anyone but yourself.

724
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: What do you wanna put yourself this year?

725
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 7: I said it in my documentary. Uh, I just want

726
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 7: that one. I wanna enjoy the game. The game's give

727
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 7: me it a ton.

728
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

729
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 7: It's hard to think anything in my life that's positive

730
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 7: that wasn't impacted by directly or indirectly by playing this game.

731
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 7: So just want to give love back to the game,

732
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 7: enjoy it, pass on my knowledge to my teammates, and

733
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 7: you know, try and find find ways to help lead

734
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 7: the team.

735
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 6: How think you took any team today that the planet

736
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: ex suple days? And how much is it learning? You

737
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 6: have the helmet out and you're listening to the play call.

738
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 6: How much you learning today? Much you watch it?

739
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 7: I can't stand the helmet. I haven't won a shut

740
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 7: for twenty years, and somehow it finally didn't pass the

741
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 7: safety standards. But no, I'm just I'm just going through

742
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 7: the script, like Tom's giving me a script so I

743
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 7: can follow along trying to like listen to the plays

744
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 7: and my helmet and then say them back and then

745
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 7: read it. So you know, for me, the more times

746
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 7: that I write it or read it or hear it,

747
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 7: the more it kind of sticks in. Again, a lot

748
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 7: of stuff is stuff I've done before, but there's some

749
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 7: new terms and new types of motion words and different stuff.

750
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 7: So I'm just I'm learning. I'm gonna go through the

751
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 7: individuals up. I think that's that's what Mike wants me

752
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 7: to do. And I told Mike he wants to be

753
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 7: a practice, I'll practice, but I think he said he

754
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 7: just wants me to stick to the individual until I

755
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 7: got the offense down. Helmet shure, I hope.

756
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: So alright, in a lot of years, is this uh

757
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: fan base off lay off with?

758
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 5: Do you feel you're the person that can help this

759
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: team get over.

760
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 7: That home m We're just we're day one in mini

761
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 7: camp for me, So I'm just taking it one day

762
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 7: at a time for you.

763
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: Earn a lot spitting made.

764
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: About the frame on your left frame defenders had any

765
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 5: horror ring or anything else.

766
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 6: A wedding ring, Yeah, it's a wedding ring. Congratulations, thank you?

767
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 6: How long you uh it's been a couple months. You're

768
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 6: more here, you more.

769
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: You talking a lot about getting actively. That is dry

770
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: Drevin age ever missing.

771
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 5: The OTAs of me here four OTAs and that game

772
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: no prontass now.

773
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 6: You know.

774
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 7: Yours Week two documentary questions, al right about what about

775
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 7: mentoring organ?

776
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 6: Yeah one kid?

777
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: Do you think like you didn't have the frescorek Uh?

778
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: Are you looking forward to.

779
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: Doing the same thing as to Howard?

780
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 6: Here? I am? I am.

781
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 7: Uh Will's a good kid. Uh, We've uh got to

782
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 7: talk a little bit. I thought he did really well today,

783
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 7: you know. Uh he's he seems pretty bright. Uh, not

784
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 7: too big for him going through the progressions really well.

785
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean I'm gonna be with him every

786
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 7: single day and every single meeting. Uh found my seat

787
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 7: next to him today in the offensive meeting. I don't

788
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 7: whether or not that sticks right next to Will Howard.

789
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 7: So uh, I'm gonna help him out as much as

790
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 7: I can.

791
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: I think two more he was three years old when

792
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 4: you got dropped.

793
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 6: Not yet, but I'm sure you will.

794
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 4: Aaron.

795
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 6: How about last one here?

796
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: Freedom?

797
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 6: Do you anticipate to water Will and you you're a

798
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 6: help The experience kind of take over set, Dad.

799
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 7: I don't understand that last term takeover when I see fit.

800
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 7: I mean, I've called some two minutes over the years.

801
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 7: But the idea that somehow I I need to or

802
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 7: have spent most of my career playing outside of an

803
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 7: offensive system is just not correct. So I'm gonna learn

804
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 7: the offense, and Arthur and I are gonna talk a

805
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 7: bunch this summer, and there's if there's things that I

806
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 7: like that I'd like to see in the offense, Arthur

807
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 7: I'm sure is gonna put it in. But he knows

808
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 7: how to call a game. I know how to get

809
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 7: us in the right spot based on what's called. There's

810
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 7: two or three plays called in the huddle. Sometimes my

811
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 7: jobs to get us in the right play.

812
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: All right.

813
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: That was Aaron Rodgers yesterday after his first action in

814
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 4: the Black and Gold aged stuff.

815
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: A whole bunch that he touched on there that I

816
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: want to get in with you, you know, including some

817
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: of that stuff at the end there, specifically about what

818
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: the offense is gonna look like and the play calls

819
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: and those type of things that we'll get into. I

820
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: also just want him to know, Aaron Rodgers, he would

821
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: not have to twist my rom to get me to

822
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: go out to Malibu. Okay, I'd be a volunteer, not

823
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 2: a hostage. One of the nicest places in the country,

824
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: in the world setup, and I'm sure that you know

825
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: when you can, when you can afford to live out there.

826
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: You got a pretty good setup, no doubt. We will

827
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: discuss some of the things that Aaron Rodgers discussed on

828
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Speaker 2: the other side. Matt Williamson, West Shuler. It's a special

829
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: edition of the Drive down here at Mini Camp day

830
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: number two on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

831
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

832
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

833
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: and Gold CASNR Steelers Nation Radio.

834
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: Back on the South side of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Mini Camp

835
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: on going the morning portion, the walk through portion basically

836
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 2: finished at this point, Danny Smith do it some special

837
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 2: teams work before they will have a full blown practice

838
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: later this afternoon. West Shuler and Matt Williamson were with

839
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: you until one o'clock here on your twenty four to

840
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: seven Home of the Black and the Gold. Matt, we

841
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: heard from Aaron Rodgers in the previous segment lot that

842
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: a lot that I want to get into that he

843
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: discussed there.

844
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: Let me just ask you this too.

845
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Those off season gatherings and workouts that we see pretty

846
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: commonly right amongst quarterbacks and they're wide receivers. I think

847
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: a lot of times, specifically younger quarterbacks or guys in

848
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: an Aaron Rodgers type situation, veteran quarterback moving to a teammates,

849
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: how much how much value you put into those things?

850
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Speaker 3: I don't know, of course, I've never been a part

851
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: of it.

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00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: I mean, I definitely think the camaraderie aspect is great

853
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 5: because I'm sure they do dinner.

854
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: And drinks and maybe play around a golf or two.

855
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: Right.

856
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: I don't think it's all just grinding, grinding, running rounds

857
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 5: over and over and over. So I think that part

858
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 5: of it's wonderful. It's a big thing I was harping

859
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 5: on yesterday that will take some time.

860
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 6: You know.

861
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: He mentioned it too, He's like, I'll get this offense

862
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 5: down a couple weeks. People are probably like, really, oh

863
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 5: he will. I have no doubt of that about that

864
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 5: in my mind. But I think a big thing for

865
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: him in particular, and his precise nature as a quarterback

866
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: is there's this misconception that Randall Cobb and Alan Lazard

867
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: and his guys.

868
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: I put that in.

869
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 5: Quote just because he likes hanging out with them, right, right,

870
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: because because he wants to have beers and barbecue with him.

871
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 5: And I'm sure that they get along great, don't get

872
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 5: me wrong. But also Jordy Nelson and Devonte Adams were

873
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 5: two of those guys, and those they had phenomenal careers.

874
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 5: But what I bring them up is he is really

875
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 5: known as an incredible stickler for detailed route running because

876
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: I keep bringing back his knowledge of the game. He

877
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: has such an understanding of defenses and how they want

878
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 5: to play that not only do I want to run

879
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 5: this route exactly, Crisp Well, you have to with him, sure,

880
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 5: but you're not get football and you're not gonna get.

881
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: The football I mean.

882
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 5: And the reasoning is, yeah, I know how to beat

883
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 5: the cover two or whatever, but if I can put

884
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: it not only okay, so quarterback accuracy. The best way

885
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 5: it's ever been described to me is all these guys

886
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: can hit the door.

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00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: You know, they wouldn't have made it to this point

888
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: if they weren't. You know, one of the best passers

889
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: of a football.

890
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 6: In the world.

891
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 5: Right, all these guys can hit the door, the good

892
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: ones can hit the doorknob rogers, and the great ones

893
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 5: can put it through the keyhole, can put right, you

894
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 5: know what I mean?

895
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: Right?

896
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: And he wants to put it through the keyhole against

897
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: specific coverages everyone knows, like his back shoulder fades and

898
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 5: this one, I want to put it on your back hip,

899
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: This one, I want to put it on your back shoulder.

900
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 5: This one, I need to lead you a little further,

901
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 5: you know, Like he's real precise about those things, and

902
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: that's going to take time. And to be frank, that's

903
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 5: not Metcalf's strengths. I mean, he's not considered a precise,

904
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 5: precise DeVante why they thought he was, so I do

905
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: think those throwing sessions back your original question has a

906
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 5: lot of merit with that because he's he's not going

907
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: to call these guys out, you know.

908
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: Well, I bet he does call people out.

909
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 5: In front of the team trade camp and trading camp

910
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 5: and things once he gets comfortable. But there, I'm sure

911
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 5: it's gonna be. You really need to run this route

912
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 5: exactly as I'm drawing it up here, you know.

913
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: And and that that does make a lot of sense

914
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: and you know, hey, for for guys maybe like Roman

915
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: Wilson and Calvin Austin the route running tree, the route

916
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: running strength and traits that we've seen, but you're right

917
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: with somebody like DK Metcalf, where it's maybe some more

918
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: pure athleticism and physicality that you didn't drift. Need you

919
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: need time to kind of finally tune those things and

920
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: get on the same page from that regard is the.

921
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: Real quick going guy.

922
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 5: I didn't mention yesterday that kind of dawned on me,

923
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: and frankly, I've kind of he's been an afterthought to me.

924
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: But Robert Woods is a professional.

925
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: No, absolutely, he deserves brought up in these conversations.

926
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet he's gonna be somewhat of a Rogers favorite.

927
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's gonna leave the team in targets

928
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: or anything like that, but it's easy to kind of

929
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 5: dismiss that he's part of the team right now. But

930
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 5: that is his spec Yes, you know.

931
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: Yes, he was at one point one of the best

932
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: guys doing that in the International Football League. Okay, so

933
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: then let's stay here for a second. Is the whole

934
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: rounding out the roster conversation because I think we're all

935
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: in agreement that that there's there's they're not done doing business.

936
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: I think another past catcher is going to be on

937
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 5: this I think.

938
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: Another pass catcher is going to be on this team.

939
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: So is it just as simple as finding the right

940
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: the you know, to to use a comp like a

941
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson type player, a guy who was all about

942
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: separation and route running.

943
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 5: It's funny because people that are listening yesterday a couple

944
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: I got a couple of tweets.

945
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: Like they could use use Deontay Johnson.

946
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: You know, maybe they're not wrong.

947
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 5: I mean two or three years ago that style.

948
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: Yes, stylistically yes.

949
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Is it Is it as simple as like that's clearly

950
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: what you're looking for, or might there be some you know,

951
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: John U. Smith types or more big body athleticism types,

952
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: or is it just as simple as add me a

953
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: pure route runner, a cerebral separator, and I feel good

954
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: about what we got.

955
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 5: I lean towards a route runner, a somewhat of a veteran,

956
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 5: someone that's maybe not as freaky, like maybe you give

957
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 5: up a little bit of the metcalf size speed freakiness

958
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 5: for technician, you know, the steps are always the same consistency.

959
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: Things like that.

960
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 5: You know, in Arthur Smith's offense, you're gonna have to

961
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 5: block to some degree. And even though Roman Wilson's not

962
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: a bigger guy in Harbaugh's offense, you blocked at Michigan too,

963
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like that, that's a requirement.

964
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 5: So it's not gonna be someone just out there running

965
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 5: wind sprints. You're gonna have to have some physicality to you.

966
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 5: I do think there'll be more of an over the

967
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 5: middle presence than than last year with Arthur Smith, and

968
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 5: that's quarterback related. I think people could figure that out

969
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 5: with Wilson. But frankly, and this is how the organization works.

970
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 5: I think this is how Omar works. It's certainly how

971
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 5: mister Rooney works. If they plan on adding a pass catcher,

972
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 5: as we all think, they're not gonna be hasty about it.

973
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: It's gonna be the right deal.

974
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: You know, and a lot they're not scrambling behind us,

975
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: and it could go well in the camp.

976
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 5: I mean, it could even be as late as a

977
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 5: trade deadline if they're in the hunt, who knows, but

978
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 5: it's going to be the right deal. They're not just

979
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 5: gonna grab whoever.

980
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: Yes, No, absolutely, and hey, it could be a familiar name,

981
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: could be someone like an Alan Lazard type, certainly, but

982
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: I think there's a real possibility that it might be

983
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: somebody from outside of that. I don't know, Aaron Rodgers maybe, Yeah,

984
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: to use a I think there is such an assumption

985
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: that it's going to be somebody that's within his trust tree. Possibly,

986
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: it certainly could be, but I don't think there's much

987
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: that would surprise us in that regard.

988
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: I think they'll be very open with the possibilities.

989
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: You know, Keenan Allen never ran well and he looks

990
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 5: like he's lost a step to be frank, but he

991
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: is that precise route run. I mean, that's always been

992
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 5: his specialty. He happened to go to cow later than

993
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 5: in Rogers, but I mean he's free. You know, he's

994
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 5: not a dynamic and last year wasn't great for him,

995
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 5: to be honest, That's why he's out there.

996
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: But you know that that's just a name to throw

997
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 3: out there as well.

998
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I I do think, like again, there is

999
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 2: still some some rounding out of this roster, without a doubt,

1000
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: I think, particularly again on the is there any other period.

1001
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: He lost a tight end. I mean, some people are

1002
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: going to get.

1003
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: Hurt on rig you know, So that's kind of that's

1004
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: that was the last thing I wanted to ask you

1005
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: along these lines of like, feels like they would like

1006
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: to add a wide receiver and we know now that

1007
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: there at least down a body at tight end. What

1008
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: that I think for makes the team, Well, what that

1009
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: replacement looks like is a completely different question.

1010
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: But they are down a body now.

1011
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 5: With aught respect to Parum, I mean he's he's not

1012
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: a superstar. I mean he I'm not even sure he

1013
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 5: was guaranteed to rosters, but right, look good for him.

1014
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 5: But you know, I mean it's not a catastrophic loss.

1015
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 5: You could find someone of his equal value on the

1016
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 5: open market.

1017
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 4: Yes, does anybody stand out to you or part of me?

1018
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 4: Does it?

1019
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 2: So aside from wide receiver and tight end, any any

1020
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: any other areas that you would look and say I

1021
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: could still add there without question.

1022
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 3: I would always be open. But they just don't exist,

1023
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: is oh line off? Yeah?

1024
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: I mean they just don't exist. And boy, there's a

1025
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 5: shortage right now. The draft really reiterated there's always a shortage.

1026
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 5: But man, I mean I thought the Steelers would probably

1027
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 5: take one. But I criticized about fifteen teams for not

1028
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 5: addressing O line, the Browns at most, but yeah, I

1029
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 5: mean even teams with a lot more opportunities. Everyone seemed

1030
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: like they went around earlier than I expected it O line.

1031
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 5: So it just the demand is much higher than the supply.

1032
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: It wouldn't break my heart. And I'm not saying it's

1033
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 5: Jalen Ramsey or Jarry Alexander, they're the names, but I

1034
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 5: would like to get a little greedy at corner.

1035
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, give me one more competition.

1036
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: Because app you know, right, you feel solid about what

1037
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: you have there, but again, your one injury away from

1038
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: maybe feeling like you're a little short in a big way.

1039
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: And I thought last year, people, I always feel like

1040
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 5: I'm picking on guys that are out the door, but

1041
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: there's also a reason they're out the door is they

1042
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 5: had one big time man coverage Corner and Porter and

1043
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: that wasn't Jackson's game at all, and I thought it

1044
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 5: really hurt the pass rush. And because they couldn't man

1045
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 5: up guys as much as I would have liked, they

1046
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: had to play a little more cover three, a little

1047
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: more zone.

1048
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: Things like that.

1049
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 5: Because of who their dudes were. Now, Slay's a much

1050
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: better man coverage guy than Jackson, but one more wouldn't

1051
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 5: break my heart.

1052
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to.

1053
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: Have to trust Trice or Echoes to be my outside guy,

1054
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 5: and they're fine, But if you could have another, I'm

1055
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: open to it.

1056
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: And a similar conversation along the lines of what we

1057
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: were discussing with Aaron Rodgers. I think with with with

1058
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: Darius Slay, just you are hopeful and optimistic that he's

1059
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: going to be able to play seventeen games and remain

1060
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: healthy for that, but.

1061
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 5: He also played his best stretch in the playoffs in

1062
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 5: Super Bowl two, which is I'm promising, but history's not

1063
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: kind to guys their age.

1064
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: Right, right, And so I mean even on a track

1065
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: record there even just having somebody to maybe not lean

1066
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: on him as much as you as you would early

1067
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: in the season, so that hopefully he's fresher yeah down

1068
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: the stretch.

1069
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 5: Uh, you know that people make it.

1070
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Joe Hayden was a Brown at this point.

1071
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 4: Correct, you know, into training camp or right before training game.

1072
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: I would remember better than me.

1073
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: But but it was July, I mean it was July

1074
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: or August when Joe Hayden was at it. It was August,

1075
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: so I was already into training camp when at the

1076
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: at the end of August. Okay, so so yeah, I

1077
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: mean it was pre season time period as well.

1078
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 5: Right, some names you're not thinking about will become available

1079
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 5: and they have the cap space that they could grab

1080
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 5: anybody if need be.

1081
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 2: So you're always open, certainly, always open. That's an hour

1082
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: in the books. Two more hours to go from here.

1083
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: On the south side, I do want to continue.

1084
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: I think the.

1085
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 3: Biggest more about what Rogers said.

1086
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: More about what Rogers said, and I think the biggest

1087
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: thing some of that play calling and the blend of

1088
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: what he likes to do, what Arthur Smith wants to do.

1089
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: How's that all hash out. We'll discuss that to start

1090
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 2: our number two when we return on the other side.

1091
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: We're also hear from Mike Tomlin before we get out

1092
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: of here today as well.

1093
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: So plenty to bring you as we roll along from

1094
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: the ut. Yeah, we do. I tell you what, tom

1095
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 4: Arth zach A Zani. This is one of the times

1096
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: we get a lot of the position coach, and you

1097
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,479
Speaker 4: know it's funny too. So it's all the offensive guys

1098
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: that are out here.

1099
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 3: I think defense was yesterday.

1100
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: In my mind, I'm like, well, it's because with the

1101
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers factor, everybody wants to talk to the offensive coaches.

1102
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: But it would also sense if it was just every

1103
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: other day. There's got to be some rhyme to the reason.

1104
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: Two more hours to go on this special edition of

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