Speaker 1: Two on the move, Going Deep, Speedless, peace hell.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 3: He's got my hands in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: What is up, Dolphans And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
Speaker 2: yesterday I said was one of the more fun days
Speaker 2: of practice. Well, today might have upped that. Anti competition
Speaker 2: pads popping, chirping, physicality, energy and intensity. It was all
Speaker 2: there today And most days when the quarterback plays at
Speaker 2: a high level, that's what gets me fired up. But
Speaker 2: today it was all of the above. Plus the defensive
Speaker 2: backfield balled out. We'll discuss that and the versatile nature
Speaker 2: of Ramsey and Fuller and how they are clearly define themselves,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, as the best cornerback tandem in the
Speaker 2: National Football League. Plus how seeing this defense is helping
Speaker 2: the offense play faster. A big day from the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Soundbites from Joe Barry, Brian Duker, Skyler Thompson, Moe Kamara,
Speaker 2: and Ezekiel Vandenberg. All of that and a heck of
Speaker 2: a lot more from the Baptist Health Studios inside the
Speaker 2: Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time podcast.
Speaker 2: I want to start with a general theme today about
Speaker 2: the level of competition we saw out on that practice field.
Speaker 2: There was hitting, there was intensity, there was some chirping,
Speaker 2: and you could just sense it from the visuals and
Speaker 2: you could hear it from the reaction. It's really all
Speaker 2: six senses kind of got the feeling of the smell
Speaker 2: of it. Wait, five senses. Yeah, it's one of my
Speaker 2: frigging vigan Bruce Willis from my m Night Shamalan. But
Speaker 2: you could just feel and sense the competitive nature of
Speaker 2: this practice, and we heard it from the players the
Speaker 2: audio version of the Senses. After the practice is over,
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and begin with practice notes on the
Speaker 2: two cornerbacks that I keep mentioning on these podcasts that
Speaker 2: I think are to me going to be the best
Speaker 2: cornerback tandem in the NFL, and Jalen Ramsey and Kendall Fuller.
Speaker 2: The offense tried today to push the ball vertical several
Speaker 2: times and it just was not there. And I even
Speaker 2: go back to like the twenty twenty one season, there
Speaker 2: were so many instances in the past where Tua and
Speaker 2: this offense, even with Albert Wilson and Isaiah Ford, Devonte
Speaker 2: Parker and Will Fuller, we're getting vertical on this defense
Speaker 2: that was pretty bad that year and then last year
Speaker 2: started off slow and all the deep balls came out
Speaker 2: of practice last year. This year, there has been those,
Speaker 2: but it's been way more competitive as far as the
Speaker 2: back end goes. And I'm sure the combination of having
Speaker 2: Ramsey who was out here for two days last year,
Speaker 2: and Kendall Fuller and Javon Holland now in his fourth season,
Speaker 2: and Elijah Campbell's progress and what we've seen from Marcus
Speaker 2: May and Jordan Poyer, it's just flat out better. Man.
Speaker 2: They're doing a great job of taking away the vertical
Speaker 2: options for the NFL's top vertical passing game. So I
Speaker 2: know that exists, and if this defense can handle it,
Speaker 2: it tells me they're good on both ends. And there
Speaker 2: was a ton of coverage secks really more so than
Speaker 2: out and out rush Victory Sex throughout this practice. In fact,
Speaker 2: you know, I thought the offensive line had really good
Speaker 2: protection all day long, and just for the posterity two
Speaker 2: straight days without a snap on the ground, but every
Speaker 2: time I got my pre snap checklist with five and
Speaker 2: twenty nine, and then when follow the route and stems
Speaker 2: and coverage, there's twenty nine and there's five running down
Speaker 2: the field with ten or seventeen or anybody else and
Speaker 2: passing off to a safety who capped the route off.
Speaker 2: And we know this defense is very, very multiple and
Speaker 2: can show one thing and present another. And given the
Speaker 2: nature of both Ramsey and Fuller skill sets and that
Speaker 2: versatility to go along with it, it just makes me
Speaker 2: think the offense is really having to process quickly in
Speaker 2: to term, and you know post snap what the actual
Speaker 2: matchup is they want to attack with regards to the
Speaker 2: coverage and who winds up covering who. So to me,
Speaker 2: it's the ultimate ironing, ironing, iron sharpening iron and I mean,
Speaker 2: just for posterity again, listen to past game specialists Brian
Speaker 2: Duker when I asked him how this offense challenges their
Speaker 2: coverage principles.
Speaker 4: Certainly, we have a lot of dynamic playmakers and that
Speaker 4: makes us have to be very specific and good with
Speaker 4: our techniques. And you learned very quickly when you're off
Speaker 4: just a little bit, because it can get exposed.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 2: I got one more for you from the defensive perspective
Speaker 2: clip here from coach Joe Berry and how this offense
Speaker 2: and how the various looks and good quarterback ball handling
Speaker 2: in the backfield, how it challenges defenses getting into their keys,
Speaker 2: and how this is kind of back and forth between
Speaker 2: these two sides.
Speaker 5: Well, this this this offense. Having been on the other
Speaker 5: side defending it, it's it's it stresses you in every aspect.
Speaker 5: It stresses you on the perimeter, she in the run game,
Speaker 5: in the past game, and the things that they're able
Speaker 5: to do from a ball handling standpoint with the quarterback
Speaker 5: to us specifically, it's it's always been a nightmare and
Speaker 5: I it's it's hard, and it's a challenge every day,
Speaker 5: but it's it's I think that's an advantage for us
Speaker 5: because there's nothing that we don't see from our offense
Speaker 5: on a daily basis. And you know, that's what you want,
Speaker 5: you know, especially this time of year when it's OTA's,
Speaker 5: when it's training camp, when you're when you're you know,
Speaker 5: sharpening your sword, go against the best that we're doing
Speaker 5: that every single day. So it's great.
Speaker 2: And listen to Skylar Thompson when I asked him how
Speaker 2: this defense and all they can do and throw at you.
Speaker 2: How that speeds up your processor as a quarterback and
Speaker 2: as an offense the last couple of weeks, how has
Speaker 2: that cramped up your processing?
Speaker 6: Well, it's been awesome, honestly, it's been so fun competing
Speaker 6: against our defense. They they bring a lot of energy
Speaker 6: every day. They give us tons of different looks, you know,
Speaker 6: and I think that's it's so good for us as
Speaker 6: the quarterback is you know, you can even throughout a
Speaker 6: game week, you know, you can prep for something and
Speaker 6: defense come out and play something totally different. And you
Speaker 6: always got to play each play, you know. We always says,
Speaker 6: you know, each play standards, own merit, you know, and
Speaker 6: just taking one play at a time, you know, and
Speaker 6: trust our progression, trust our read not predetermining pre snap
Speaker 6: what the defense is doing, and being able to react
Speaker 6: and feel the space. And you know, they send us
Speaker 6: a lot of different stuff, a lot of different pressures
Speaker 6: and looks and disguises. It's really good, really good training
Speaker 6: for us. So it's been it's been fun to competing
Speaker 6: with those guys.
Speaker 2: I just thought this was a cool juxtaposition because of
Speaker 2: the laughter on each of those you know, Coach Duker
Speaker 2: on the back end, Skyler on the front end. With
Speaker 2: regards to how they challenge each other, that's kind of
Speaker 2: like the you know, Mike White, I asked him about
Speaker 2: Tua's processing and envision and he gave me the same thing.
Speaker 2: Oh brother, it's it's insane, Like you can't manufacture that
Speaker 2: type of natural reaction or non verbal communication right, Like,
Speaker 2: that's natural. And that's why I think those are so
Speaker 2: cool to hear and so genuine to hear those guys.
Speaker 2: I do want to come back to Scalar Thompson, who
Speaker 2: I thought had another really good day today to build
Speaker 2: in his strong camp so far. But back on the
Speaker 2: Ramsey and four notes man and it began the first
Speaker 2: play of team period when Jalen took on Aaron Brewer
Speaker 2: a block from Aaron Brewer full pads, and it looked
Speaker 2: like they were going live at times today. By the way,
Speaker 2: it was very physical and chippy out there. And he
Speaker 2: beats the block and then goes and pops John news
Speaker 2: Smith on the end around and David Long comes in
Speaker 2: and cleans it up and they start dapping each other up,
Speaker 2: slapping each other's helmets, screaming in celebration. You just knew
Speaker 2: it was gonna be a day of high intensity and juice.
Speaker 2: And if we get that on Sundays, good night, good
Speaker 2: night to anybody else. And lo and behold we got
Speaker 2: Mo Kamara at the end of practice. And if you
Speaker 2: heard him in the Draft Time podcast back in June,
Speaker 2: you know, there's nobody who's more high intense, high energy
Speaker 2: than he is. So I asked him, these practices are
Speaker 2: really about the competition, right man.
Speaker 5: It's like the sink.
Speaker 1: It's like top tier every day and a real like
Speaker 1: you know the thing about football, Like you're not always
Speaker 1: gonna feel well. Like some practices you're not gonna feel well.
Speaker 1: And I've had practice what I haven't felt with well.
Speaker 1: But some of these guys, like yesterday wasn't feeling the best.
Speaker 1: But I saw that Javal and Holland.
Speaker 7: Like streaming and doing whatever he had to do.
Speaker 1: But that's every day for him. And it's like watching
Speaker 1: these guys in their competitive nature, you see why those
Speaker 1: guys are superstars. You see why whatever case may be,
Speaker 1: but also not just the superstars who are going off
Speaker 1: every day, the second and third.
Speaker 7: Year guys, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna have clips on those guys too,
Speaker 1: So you know it's not just the star guys that
Speaker 1: are funny with their hair on fires, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's everybody else too.
Speaker 2: So after that first play, the third play of practice
Speaker 2: among this defensive backfield where he moster gets a beautiful
Speaker 2: bend back lane where he had good lanes cleared up
Speaker 2: by Robert Jones and Keon Smith, where he pressed the
Speaker 2: offense to the left and then cuts it back inside
Speaker 2: and hits the hole. But down comes number eight Javon
Speaker 2: Holland to put a hat on the football, force the
Speaker 2: fumble and fall on it. And so Javon was all
Speaker 2: over the field. He was fantastic. And I want to
Speaker 2: go ahead and play some more audio here for you
Speaker 2: from Brian Duker on Javon Holland and how they can
Speaker 2: maximize his unique skill set as a player.
Speaker 4: I don't know that it's up to us to unlock
Speaker 4: it as much as give him opportunities to do it.
Speaker 4: Like he certainly has the versatile that you've talked about,
Speaker 4: and I think us it's a more matter of him
Speaker 4: comfortable doing a variety of techniques and then once he
Speaker 4: knows those within the defenses, he just kind of makes
Speaker 4: a match which techniques he's doing, and maybe one play
Speaker 4: he's lined up somewhere you wouldn't expect him to be
Speaker 4: not on a traditional safety role. But the more technique
Speaker 4: he knows he can execute it, I think it makes
Speaker 4: it really easy to do if he's certainly smart enough,
Speaker 4: personal enough to do all those things.
Speaker 2: Next period, they the ones are out there, Kendall Fuller
Speaker 2: runs down the top of an inbreaker and beats the
Speaker 2: receiver to the dart, which is an extended slant but
Speaker 2: a ten twelve yard slant route well for an incompletion.
Speaker 2: Next play, he comes down off the edge and ends
Speaker 2: up as the forced defender and long arms the tight
Speaker 2: end to keep outside contained. And this is an outside
Speaker 2: linebacker technique or a defensive end technique where you basically
Speaker 2: hold the tight end or the offense the left tackle
Speaker 2: right tackle with one arm and maintain your balance and
Speaker 2: position and keep them at bay while you keep your
Speaker 2: outside arm clean so you can shed that block and
Speaker 2: make a tackle should they challenge your outside contained. But
Speaker 2: most frequently the back will see that outside contained there
Speaker 2: and bang that thing up inside. And that's what Kendall
Speaker 2: Fuller forced him to do. I just can't get over
Speaker 2: how connected the coverage really was all day long. I
Speaker 2: can't get over the versatility of Ramsey and Fuller and
Speaker 2: the options that gives the defense, and Javon Holland for
Speaker 2: that matter, Ramsey inside, Cater Kohu outside, Javon Holland creeping
Speaker 2: around the box, playing in the post man. It's so multiple,
Speaker 2: And so I asked Brian Douker, what is having all
Speaker 2: these versatile pieces in your defensive backfield do for the defense?
Speaker 4: What I think that does is the playbook is already
Speaker 4: a very diverse playbook. What that allows us to do
Speaker 4: is present much differently to the offense, but it's all
Speaker 4: the same thing for us. So I think it lets
Speaker 4: us put a lot of window dressing on things that
Speaker 4: we already do, and it doesn't add volume for us,
Speaker 4: but it's only adds volume for opposing offense.
Speaker 2: Let's keep it rolling here with one last clip from
Speaker 2: Coach Duker. A main theme of that Ravens defense that
Speaker 2: Weaver came from was the ability to get pressure with
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton, Arthur Mallett, Marlon Humphrey, Brandon Stevens, any of
Speaker 2: the eleven guys can come into a time, and if
Speaker 2: you get into a rhythm of calling the game, you
Speaker 2: can make it absolute hell on the opposing quarterback because
Speaker 2: every picture he sees is different, and each time you
Speaker 2: confuse him, it compounds and turns it into an ultimate
Speaker 2: day of stress and anxiety. It's kind of like a
Speaker 2: pitcher in baseball. The idea for an offense, on top
Speaker 2: of scoring runs, to hopefully get to more runs, is
Speaker 2: you want that pitcher throwing high stress, high leverage pitches.
Speaker 2: You know, pitches where he's got runners on base, Pitches
Speaker 2: where you know he's deep into the pitch count in
Speaker 2: the inning and you're starting to stress. You know, if
Speaker 2: I don't make a great pitch right here, this might
Speaker 2: cost my team a run, or maybe he's going to
Speaker 2: get you know, another guy on base. And we're pitching
Speaker 2: from stressful situations. And there's a hint of that idea
Speaker 2: for quarterbacks in the league two with regards to making reads.
Speaker 2: And if you can make it easy on a quarterback
Speaker 2: and give him stuff that sequences and there's run games
Speaker 2: and easy reads that kind of gets him into the
Speaker 2: flow and can reduce the amount of high level, stressful reads.
Speaker 2: He can play faster and looser, and what this defense
Speaker 2: did today I thought was kind of compound that confusion
Speaker 2: and really force the quarterbacks to have high stress reps
Speaker 2: on every single rep. And more on that in a
Speaker 2: moment that you guys are gonna want to definitely hear,
Speaker 2: but real quick, here's Coach Duker on the mindset of
Speaker 2: having defensive backs that can not just cover, but also
Speaker 2: impact the passing game through how they rush the quarterback.
Speaker 4: What it allows us to do, is defensive backs is
Speaker 4: alleviate some of the pressure and coverage because there's so
Speaker 4: much worried about the pressure and different guys coming. It
Speaker 4: adds a lot of stress on the offense to get
Speaker 4: the ball out, and you know, it makes them a
Speaker 4: little bit more protection conscious and certainly takes any the
Speaker 4: stress off from the person abouts to that point.
Speaker 2: Elijah Campbell made a play off of a defensive back
Speaker 2: pressure today where Javon Holland came screaming in off the
Speaker 2: corner and enforced to it into a hot throw and
Speaker 2: he undercuts the route and was there for the pick
Speaker 2: and just flat out dropped it, which got to make
Speaker 2: that play, but shows you Elijah Campbell being in the
Speaker 2: picture once again and coach. Weaver mentioned him as a
Speaker 2: guy by name, not even prompted, as a guy that's
Speaker 2: had a massive camp so far. Thought Marcus may had
Speaker 2: another fantastic run fit from depth once again, something he
Speaker 2: does essentially every single day. So man, this defense just
Speaker 2: flat out brought it. I couldn't get enough of it.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take our first break right there,
Speaker 2: come back on the other side and continue to the
Speaker 2: theme of talking defense. I have some audio from Joe
Speaker 2: Berry that will make us all smarter football fans and
Speaker 2: the impact of veteran leadership in that linebacker room on
Speaker 2: a player like Ezekiel Vanderberg. All of that and so
Speaker 2: much more. I promise you guys don't want to miss
Speaker 2: the rest of this podcast. That's all Next Drive Time,
Speaker 2: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Autnation, covering
Speaker 2: the back end on the first segment of the podcast.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and move up to the second level
Speaker 2: and the linebackers and a ton of fantastic audio here
Speaker 2: from Joe Barry, Dolphins linebacker coach and run game coordinator.
Speaker 2: And I can't imagine a better setup for this because
Speaker 2: it was at the end of it myself, Kyle Krabs
Speaker 2: and a guy that's been a linebackers coach in this
Speaker 2: league going back to his legendary Buccaneers defenses where he
Speaker 2: coached Derek Brooks, and the guy that you know coach
Speaker 2: defenses as the guy right the defensive coordinator there in
Speaker 2: Green Bay. So we got this doctorate level PhD football
Speaker 2: answer for questions asked by two students of the game
Speaker 2: dying for that knowledge. And I'm sure Kyle conveyed that
Speaker 2: on his show today and I'll do the same thing here,
Speaker 2: and we start with the question about the ability to
Speaker 2: expand the defensive menu from the modern game or for
Speaker 2: the modern game, I should say, with the stress of
Speaker 2: speed and the expanded hook zones of this offense can
Speaker 2: pound the football into with those you know, eighteen yard
Speaker 2: incuts to Tyreek and Waddle where Tua throws it to
Speaker 2: a spot that intersects with the route right on time
Speaker 2: and turns into a big run after the catch. With
Speaker 2: all the shells these defenses want to popularize the last
Speaker 2: couple of years to combat the vertical passing game, which
Speaker 2: is essentially you know, expanded by Tyreek and Jalen and
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. But also within that the need for
Speaker 2: linebackers that can do that to get vertical, to get depth,
Speaker 2: but also get downhill in the running game because when
Speaker 2: you play those split high safety looks, that usually invites
Speaker 2: the running game. So it's such a challenging position in
Speaker 2: the modern NFL. And coach gave us a great answer
Speaker 2: about the traits required to play linebacker in this league
Speaker 2: that features all that mumbo jumbo I just told you about.
Speaker 5: I think in any defensive system, playing the inside linebacker position,
Speaker 5: it starts with three things. And it's smart, fast, and physical.
Speaker 5: I think you got to be in this day and age,
Speaker 5: with the way offenses are going, with all the different
Speaker 5: formations and movements and styles that you have to defend,
Speaker 5: you got to be smart. I think to play defensive
Speaker 5: football really at any level of football now, it has
Speaker 5: become such a speed game, you know. And to play
Speaker 5: the linebacker position, you know, because we ask our guys
Speaker 5: to do a lot of things.
Speaker 2: They gotta they gotta.
Speaker 5: Cover people from running backs to tight ends to receivers. Uh,
Speaker 5: they got a blitz. So you've got to be able
Speaker 5: to run. And then you know, the final thing is
Speaker 5: and really it's probably the most important thing, is that
Speaker 5: football is and always will be a physical game. So
Speaker 5: you got to be tough, you've got to be nasty,
Speaker 5: you got to be physical. So and that's the great
Speaker 5: thing about our position, is what you alluded to is
Speaker 5: that we are as linebackers, we're part of the front,
Speaker 5: and then we're also part of the back end. So
Speaker 5: I think that's that's the fun thing about at least
Speaker 5: coaching the position, and I know for the guys playing it,
Speaker 5: but you've got to have those three things and that
Speaker 5: that's I think for you to be a well rounded
Speaker 5: NFL linebacker. If you're smart, fast, and physical, you know
Speaker 5: you're gonna be able to play in this league.
Speaker 2: And this, you know, I mean Jordan Brooks, Anthony Walker Junior,
Speaker 2: David Long Junior. I mean, that's their entire game. So
Speaker 2: it totally tracks. Two of those guys were brought in
Speaker 2: after the hiring of Joe Berry, so it makes sense
Speaker 2: that's what he prioritizes and identified in David Long as
Speaker 2: a trait or you know, a player that fits all
Speaker 2: those traits. And this, you know, was a theme that
Speaker 2: we covered on the show after the Dolphins were eliminated
Speaker 2: from playoff contention last year or the playoffs, I should say,
Speaker 2: and giving thoughts on the divisional and championship rounds and
Speaker 2: who were the final four teams? Kansas City had Nick Bolton,
Speaker 2: Drew Trankle, and Willie Gay, Baltimore had Roquan Smith and
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen. San Francisco had Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw,
Speaker 2: and Detroit had Jack Campbell and alex Anzeloni. All those
Speaker 2: guys are uber athletic linebackers that can do a little
Speaker 2: bit of everything in the NFL. And that might be,
Speaker 2: you know, that's possibly the eight best linebackers that fit
Speaker 2: those categories. And yeah, I'll give you Jordan Brooks and
Speaker 2: David Long and factor in Matt Lano and c. J. Mosley, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's plenty of guys that do that, but that's eight
Speaker 2: of the very best. And there's no surprise to me
Speaker 2: there was multiple of those guys on each of those teams.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and go back to coach on you
Speaker 2: know those three guys on Long, Walker and Brooks. Here's
Speaker 2: coach Barry.
Speaker 5: David's a guy that you know, it's it's crazy to think,
Speaker 5: you know, I mentioned this the last time I talked
Speaker 5: to you guys as a as a as a coordinator,
Speaker 5: which I was, you know, you you learned the entire draft.
Speaker 5: And then now being a position coach, you know, it's
Speaker 5: neat to go back and say, oh, yeah, I remember
Speaker 5: when he came out, or I remember when he was
Speaker 5: a free agent we tried to get him. So with
Speaker 5: with really, with all those guys, With all my guys,
Speaker 5: I've known them and respected them and admired them from
Speaker 5: afar at different places. But to have you know, four
Speaker 5: veteran leaders that have all played a lot of football,
Speaker 5: you know, David Long, Jordan Brooks, Duke Riley, Anthony Walker,
Speaker 5: all those guys have have played really good football and
Speaker 5: have have been starters, you know, all four of them.
Speaker 5: So I think to have those four guys as kind
Speaker 5: of our core in our room, it's pretty special. And
Speaker 5: then you got a guy like Channing ten Dall, who's
Speaker 5: you know, I still I put in the category. He's
Speaker 5: still a young player, he's going into his third year.
Speaker 5: I tell him all the time, what an advantage for
Speaker 5: him to be around three veteran leaders like that, because
Speaker 5: you talk about, you know how important veteran leadership is.
Speaker 5: Every team doesn't have every team has veterans, but every
Speaker 5: team doesn't have veteran leaders. We have that on our
Speaker 5: team and we specifically have it in the linebacker room
Speaker 5: with you know, with with David, Anthony, Jordan and Duke.
Speaker 5: It's pretty special.
Speaker 2: And how about Zeke Vandenberg, who's been fantastic all camp.
Speaker 2: He also talked about those players and the playerpect on
Speaker 2: having that much leadership in the room around him.
Speaker 3: Jordan Brooks, he's a good friend at this point, this
Speaker 3: man of God. Really wise guy Anthony Walker. I've been
Speaker 3: watching his film all summer from OTAs and his feet
Speaker 3: are just so clean, and his his reads a lot
Speaker 3: of the split safety stuff that we do. Watching his
Speaker 3: tape really helped me makes some progressions from the spring.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm doing better than I was in
Speaker 3: OTAs just learning from those guys and I mean Duke,
Speaker 3: Davey Long, all these guys are just experienced players that
Speaker 3: every day I'm just trying to pick up something from him,
Speaker 3: whether it's a walk through practice meetings. There's just a
Speaker 3: lot to learn and learning so much every day. So
Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: So to get to Jordan Brooks here and what I've
Speaker 2: seen today and really all camp, Long Man, what a
Speaker 2: special talent and what a special leader man like. He
Speaker 2: was all over the field again today and a big
Speaker 2: part of every aspect rush coverage run game. Yesterday we
Speaker 2: talked about how he deflected a screen pass that showed
Speaker 2: the speed and length that he features, and fittingly enough,
Speaker 2: we have a SoundBite on just that once again from
Speaker 2: Coach Barry.
Speaker 5: But when players have length and allows them to do
Speaker 5: a lot of things, and Jordan not only has length,
Speaker 5: but he has explosion, he has speed. Those are the
Speaker 5: things that allow him to be, you know, the playman.
Speaker 5: And that's what play in linebacker is. You know, like
Speaker 5: we talked about, you got to be equally as productive
Speaker 5: in the run game as you do the pass game.
Speaker 5: And I think his length and speed is something that
Speaker 5: he brings to the table and brings to this defense
Speaker 5: and it's going to be exciting.
Speaker 2: And you guys heard Jordan Brooks talk about his leadership
Speaker 2: approach when he was available for media. I forget what
Speaker 2: day it was, might have been Sunday. Really cool story
Speaker 2: that I don't tell these stories because these are kind
Speaker 2: of moments in the building that are you know, captain
Speaker 2: the building. But this is harmless. I think I happen
Speaker 2: to overhear Jordan Brooks today walk past Small Kamara in
Speaker 2: the lunch line and he was like, he asked him,
Speaker 2: you know, how's how did today go for you? Rook?
Speaker 2: How'd you feel like it went? And Moe told him
Speaker 2: what he felt about his game and his practice. And
Speaker 2: I just think that type of leadership, you know, it's
Speaker 2: something we heard about in the press conference. I don't
Speaker 2: doubt that he was, you know, being truthful about that,
Speaker 2: but just to hear it play out like that, it
Speaker 2: was a cool moment to see, you know, this the
Speaker 2: kind of full circle aspect of that, and to put
Speaker 2: a bow on all of this with these players, because
Speaker 2: you know, David Long was all over the field and
Speaker 2: crashed the backfield party a few times in his own right.
Speaker 2: I wanted to go ahead and play Coach Barry Audio
Speaker 2: here once again on you know, the idea of confusing
Speaker 2: the quarterback and the stress of that second level with
Speaker 2: their ability to both play coverage and rush. Once again,
Speaker 2: let's go back to Joe Barry on this question that
Speaker 2: was asked about the trends of too high and how
Speaker 2: that trickled down what the linebackers have to do with
Speaker 2: the expanded range expectancy of that position.
Speaker 5: I think that this goes into the overall philosophy of
Speaker 5: what defense you are because everyone plays man, everyone plays
Speaker 5: split safety, everyone plays single high, whether you know it's
Speaker 5: single high zone or single high man. But always it's
Speaker 5: what that pre snap look that you're trying to give
Speaker 5: the quarterback. You know, there's teams that start with a
Speaker 5: single high presentation and then on the snap they very
Speaker 5: easily could play split safety. So I mean, I think
Speaker 5: the biggest thing is that in this day and age
Speaker 5: in football, you're trying to confuse the quarterback. You're trying
Speaker 5: to give him, you know, a mentality and a thought
Speaker 5: pre snap and then play something differently. So and we'll
Speaker 5: do both. You know, we'll show single high and play
Speaker 5: all three coverage principles. We'll show split safety and play
Speaker 5: different coverage principles. So it's just all in that presentation
Speaker 5: that you want to do to you know, cause a
Speaker 5: little bit of pre snap communication for the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Just a really fun day of learning football. Man. Let's
Speaker 2: go ahead and finish up here the linebacker point here
Speaker 2: with some audio from Zeke Vandenberg, and I asked him
Speaker 2: just about the challenge of getting hurt early in your
Speaker 2: rookie year and then finally getting a chance to come
Speaker 2: back and play football and showing out and not just that,
Speaker 2: but getting so much words of affirmation from your teammates.
Speaker 3: Last year was a weird year. Right after OTAs, I
Speaker 3: hurt my knee, got surgery, and then I really hadn't
Speaker 3: done anything for the team, for the organization, and they
Speaker 3: chose to keep me around, and I just had a
Speaker 3: lot of gratitude for that and gave me an opportunity
Speaker 3: to come back the next year, and so I got
Speaker 3: to do OTAs this year, got a whole summer to
Speaker 3: prepare for camp, and it's just been a lot of fun,
Speaker 3: and I'm really thankful.
Speaker 2: I really love that he talked about the Dolphins investment
Speaker 2: in him and how he kind of thought like that
Speaker 2: might be it for me, but they kept him around
Speaker 2: for the entire year. Kind of just a special answer,
Speaker 2: I thought, there from a guy that is going to
Speaker 2: appreciate and maximize the opportunity he has here as much
Speaker 2: as anybody else. Let's go ahead and move down off
Speaker 2: the edge as we continue talking defense here, it's been
Speaker 2: That's Brown one week since you looked at me. I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody could have foreseen the production of the
Speaker 2: Edge group when you consider the league's best tandem is
Speaker 2: on the sideline for these practices. No Bradley Chubb, No
Speaker 2: Drelen Phillips, who by the way he looks, he looks
Speaker 2: ready to go to me, along with Cam Good and
Speaker 2: then Shaq Barrett's retirement on the eve of camp or
Speaker 2: a couple days before camp. You wouldn't expect this group
Speaker 2: to have a lot of production, but lo and behold,
Speaker 2: they have because Quentin Bell again, that's all I'll put there.
Speaker 2: Just he's just been playing with his hair on fire
Speaker 2: all camp long. Chop Robinson had a speed to power
Speaker 2: rush and one on ones that got Austin Jackson on skates,
Speaker 2: and there aren't many guys doing that these days. I
Speaker 2: also saw him rush over the guard in that period
Speaker 2: and give the guards issues, which going back to his
Speaker 2: Penn State days, he would be a nosebacker and line
Speaker 2: up in the A gaps and give guys fits that way.
Speaker 2: I just think he's going to give teams problems because
Speaker 2: of pure physical traits, and it might take him some
Speaker 2: time to get everything down from a rundown perspective. Early
Speaker 2: down perspective getting off blocks and all that that might
Speaker 2: take some time that we haven't had a chance to
Speaker 2: really get a great look at with a lot of
Speaker 2: non padded practices. But you can't tell me there's not
Speaker 2: a specific issue that he can cause. Opposing pass protection
Speaker 2: schemes on obvious passing downs right away from the jump
Speaker 2: come be a special talent. I think you know you
Speaker 2: probably with Phillips coming back. I think earlier than sooner
Speaker 2: or then later. Sooner than later, I should say, and
Speaker 2: maybe not maybe not full go. This is kind of speculative,
Speaker 2: but think about having like a manual Ogbas his kind
Speaker 2: of rundown guy, and then maybe Quentin Bell's the rundown
Speaker 2: guy early on. Then you go to chopping JP in
Speaker 2: passing situations, just kind of flushing this thing out as
Speaker 2: we get healthier at that spot. I just don't think
Speaker 2: it's going to be as big of a problem as
Speaker 2: maybe you or I even anticipated. As we headed in
Speaker 2: a training camp, I also had Mo Kamara going speed
Speaker 2: to power, splitting blocks, playing fast and physical. Gosh, he
Speaker 2: looks impressive too. Do you guys remember when Mo Kamara
Speaker 2: did a presser back in OTA's Probably not and you
Speaker 2: definitely weren't there to see this, but we talked about
Speaker 2: it in the press conference. He was studying film on
Speaker 2: his iPad as we approached his table to do this
Speaker 2: media availability, and he when we got over there, he
Speaker 2: closed it and did his media availability, and he was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to waste any time. I want to
Speaker 2: get this defense now as fast as I possibly can.
Speaker 2: So if I have fifteen seconds to look at a
Speaker 2: play here, I'm gonna do it. So I asked him, Hey,
Speaker 2: how's it been going since that day picking up this
Speaker 2: defense to now?
Speaker 1: Oh? Much much, much much.
Speaker 7: You know, Coach Crowe, Coach Beeve, they do a great
Speaker 7: job of getting pushing information to us, pushing information to off.
Speaker 7: Also this our assistant coach Ryan, he does a.
Speaker 1: Great job of They do a great job of even
Speaker 1: if you do have a question in stopping and give
Speaker 1: you that one on one feedback and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So it's been really, really well.
Speaker 2: And Mo had an awesome play where he blew up
Speaker 2: the tight end. It was Hayden Rouchie that the Wisconsin
Speaker 2: rookie and forced the back to bubble two wide to
Speaker 2: make any yards again. Bubbles when you extend your track
Speaker 2: back towards your own goal line, which allows pursuit to
Speaker 2: get there. And in the National Football League, if you
Speaker 2: bubble at all, pursuit arrives, and he's really getting after
Speaker 2: it in the run game on top of his rush.
Speaker 2: So I gave you four names with Agbah, Quentin Bell, JP,
Speaker 2: and Chop Robinson. I think Mo Kamara is right there,
Speaker 2: and I think Grayson Murphy is right there. And speaking
Speaker 2: of Grays and Murphy, he had a play today this
Speaker 2: once again, and I asked Ryan Crow, Dolphins outside linebackers coach,
Speaker 2: about how he's fitting in, and he said something that
Speaker 2: was confirmation to me. He said, you know, you watched
Speaker 2: the UCLA defense last year. They did a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff that we want to do. And it's true, lots
Speaker 2: of games and condensed rushers from the outside coming inside.
Speaker 2: Just a good compliment of Grays and Murphy's skill set
Speaker 2: and how I think it benefits him here. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and take our last break right there,
Speaker 2: and we'll finish up on the offensive side. No quarterback talk.
Speaker 2: Two segments in. Who is this guy behind the microphone?
Speaker 2: Are you even Travis Wingfield? Yeah, it's me. How do
Speaker 2: you like that? We'll do that next, and all the
Speaker 2: offense and a couple more notes on defense, mostly in
Speaker 2: extra points form. That's all next, along with Orange Jersey
Speaker 2: Predictions Draft on podcast to your host Travis Wingfield, brought
Speaker 2: to you by Atnation, I said I would get back
Speaker 2: to Skyler, and here is that promise. Let's go back
Speaker 2: to Scyler Thompson, Dolphins quarterback, who talked about the way
Speaker 2: he's seeing it better his third year into the system, you.
Speaker 6: Know, not thinking about the little tedious things of the offense.
Speaker 6: It kind of is the second nature to me in
Speaker 6: some way. Shapes or form just allows allows me to
Speaker 6: play faster, you know, I feel like and that's what
Speaker 6: I felt so far this camp. And you know, just
Speaker 6: being able to move on to the second third level
Speaker 6: things with this offense, you know, not just learning the
Speaker 6: formations and shift trades and emotions all that type of stuff,
Speaker 6: Like you know that stuff pretty well now. So it's
Speaker 6: it's being able to expand on that and really being
Speaker 6: able to grow and truly what the system is.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to play that because to me, it
Speaker 2: shows I've been talking about it all camp long. Replacing
Speaker 2: Blitz is with the football that's seeing it the ball's
Speaker 2: coming out hot. He's been more productive. There's you know,
Speaker 2: the rookie year tape where you kind of get it
Speaker 2: frustrated by the ball being held onto for too long.
Speaker 2: It's not games yet, but I don't see that happening,
Speaker 2: and it makes me very excited. And I gotta say this.
Speaker 2: You know, it was Tua who kind of had what
Speaker 2: an old schylar practice might have looked like in terms
Speaker 2: of the football, you know, not getting out and here's
Speaker 2: the caveat and some inside Bay why you should not
Speaker 2: trust play by play pactice reports, even from myself who
Speaker 2: don't know these types of things going into it. The
Speaker 2: practice was called for a lot of play calls that
Speaker 2: asked a lot of the quarterback, particularly against coverages that
Speaker 2: weren't beneficial to him. And I saw, you know, I
Speaker 2: think it was was Kevin Clark from Omaha Productions who
Speaker 2: had a great riff on the downfall of social media
Speaker 2: and the overall dumbing down of football audiences through aggregation websites.
Speaker 2: He talked about how Patrick Mahomes' first year was used
Speaker 2: for sharpening his game what he can get away with,
Speaker 2: and he threw like seven picks in the first four
Speaker 2: days of practice as a rookie, where Aaron Rodgers saying
Speaker 2: that that's his time of year to try to really
Speaker 2: maximize and take chances and see what he can get
Speaker 2: away with or which receivers he can trust to be
Speaker 2: in certain spots, because the location of the football in
Speaker 2: a practice isn't going to kill you if it's off
Speaker 2: in those situations. And I think that applies here to
Speaker 2: what Tua went through today. And one of the you know,
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league is as they use
Speaker 2: these practices to really stretch the envelope and find out
Speaker 2: what they can do and get away with. And you know,
Speaker 2: if the play call that he had was against the
Speaker 2: coverage that wasn't beneficial, stay with those looks, even if
Speaker 2: the look wasn't a good one, like you're throwing into
Speaker 2: you know, oh, if we're going to run this this cross,
Speaker 2: this deep bender against cover three, well, if he flattens
Speaker 2: that over route into the you know deep third, there's
Speaker 2: a guy for that. There's a defender for that. If
Speaker 2: he keeps the bender on the post, there's a middle
Speaker 2: field safety for that. But let's go ahead and run
Speaker 2: it anyways and see what it looks like. Put it
Speaker 2: on tape and we can maybe better improvise from that look.
Speaker 2: So rather than getting out of the play, let's put
Speaker 2: it on tape and see how we can sharpen our
Speaker 2: reeds and quickness which by which we process. So the
Speaker 2: two offense had a lot of coverage sacks, again going
Speaker 2: back to that Ramsey and fuller portion of the show,
Speaker 2: and I think that's okay. It's it's okay to get
Speaker 2: some stuff on tape where two it can dissect tough
Speaker 2: looks and get better from it. Because again, that's training camp.
Speaker 2: It's not about how many yards you throw for out
Speaker 2: here on practice. No one cares about preseason stats. What
Speaker 2: was two preseason stats last year? And but remember them?
Speaker 2: But you don't. I don't either practice stats. Definitely remember that.
Speaker 2: But Tua was in the orange jersey after being absolutely
Speaker 2: diabolically surgical and I use those that term, you know,
Speaker 2: emphatically on Thursday because he was. And this tells me
Speaker 2: that Tua will come out tomorrow at the stadium and
Speaker 2: put on an absolute show. Now, all of that said,
Speaker 2: he did have a twenty yard rip to waddle, had
Speaker 2: some really good decisions in the short game in terms
Speaker 2: of not there up top, not there vertically check this
Speaker 2: thing down to Raheem Moster, to Jonan Smith, to Devon
Speaker 2: ah Chan and pick up some yards. He did throw
Speaker 2: a couple of picks, but there was one deep shot
Speaker 2: that was in a kind of like hell Mary situation
Speaker 2: where the pressure was in. It was like his third
Speaker 2: or fourth read, and by the time he let this
Speaker 2: thing go, Tyreek was already forty five yards downfield. And
Speaker 2: if you ever see Tyreek run a deep route and
Speaker 2: catch a touchdown for this team, if he's going to
Speaker 2: catch a vertical route to what has to throw it
Speaker 2: by like by no more than twenty yards downfield. Usually
Speaker 2: it's ten or fifteen yards downfield. But if you kind
Speaker 2: of lose it the forty five and the ball takes
Speaker 2: four seconds to get there, that means Tyreek is now
Speaker 2: ninety yards away, which no quarterback and throw the football
Speaker 2: that far. So this ball hung up there and Ethan
Speaker 2: Bonner got back there for a So just something to
Speaker 2: keep in mind from context. You know, they sometimes they
Speaker 2: run these end of half situation stuff where it's either
Speaker 2: incomplete throw it away, or maybe you try a window
Speaker 2: and you throw a pick end of half, because who
Speaker 2: cares if you throw a pick. It's the same thing
Speaker 2: as you know, the clock running out. And I saw
Speaker 2: a couple of fans like throwing their hands up today
Speaker 2: because two was throwing the ball away on a drill
Speaker 2: where it was midfield. Fifteen seconds, no timeouts left, end
Speaker 2: of the first half. We need to get the ball
Speaker 2: advanced and then kill it with a clock play to
Speaker 2: have a chance at a field goal. And if it's
Speaker 2: not there, if your first read is not there, take
Speaker 2: a sack. The half's over throw it away and he
Speaker 2: would do that, and I saw hands going up, like
Speaker 2: just look at the scoreboard. That's all you have to do.
Speaker 2: Let's go a little bit faster here, extra points to
Speaker 2: close the podcast out as we are approaching the thirtieth
Speaker 2: minute or probably over it a little bit by now.
Speaker 2: Jalen Wright, he's nice, dude, He is nice. I cannot
Speaker 2: wait to watch him in game action. He hits the
Speaker 2: gap with so much conviction and it's quick like once
Speaker 2: that gap opens, he's in it full speed and then
Speaker 2: he drops his shoulder or gets skinny. And I saw
Speaker 2: him lower a shoulder on Marcus May and pushed him
Speaker 2: a good five yards back before slowing down. I thought
Speaker 2: Willie Sneed's release package looked very, very polished. That's a
Speaker 2: good sign. I think he's obviously here for some depth
Speaker 2: options and a received room that's a little bit banged
Speaker 2: up right now. Julian Hill had another really good day.
Speaker 2: You just feel his physicality off the edge. We do
Speaker 2: have two soundbites from him to roll here real quick. First,
Speaker 2: the question was what did last year teach you about
Speaker 2: this year? And this play is nicely off of the
Speaker 2: John Embrey comments from yesterday about what a first year
Speaker 2: player does compared to a second year player. Let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and listen in the.
Speaker 8: Details of the game last year. I'm just trying to
Speaker 8: run my route right, Coach says, running out route. I'm
Speaker 8: running the out route. Coach says, block this guy. I'm
Speaker 8: just blocking this guy. But now I'm understanding, Okay, what
Speaker 8: the second second level doing if I have inside leverage
Speaker 8: too hot? Shelle, Now I know it's a little pit
Speaker 8: instade level two. Man, how I'm gonna win on the
Speaker 8: top of the route. When to win late in the drive,
Speaker 8: win early in the drive? You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: So it's just none of all the intrinsing details, because
Speaker 8: that's what I think makes you a really good player
Speaker 8: at this level.
Speaker 2: I also wanted to ask Julian about his perspective in
Speaker 2: a kind of unique situation that he runs that nobody
Speaker 2: else besides the other tight ends and alec Ingol runs
Speaker 2: where he comes across the formation and that jet motion
Speaker 2: and then has that wrap block off the edge where
Speaker 2: he contains the defensive end. And he gave me great
Speaker 2: perspective on that. What's your perspective going into those blocks
Speaker 2: back to the Dolphins tight end for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just you know, staying on your angles, staying
Speaker 8: with good pad level. You know, most of the time
Speaker 8: edge defenders they have one job and that's to you know,
Speaker 8: keep containing. So he just knowing that you can meet
Speaker 8: them at a certain angle and just staying on your
Speaker 8: angle with you know, good pad level just like anything else.
Speaker 8: You know, low man's gonna win on the edge and
Speaker 8: just you know, having that mindset to be physical, be
Speaker 8: nasty as Embo likes to call it, and you know,
Speaker 8: win to.
Speaker 2: Play all right, More quick points. Brayln Sanders has had
Speaker 2: a very nice week. Kind of a nice catch on
Speaker 2: a deep throw over the middle from Mike White today.
Speaker 2: I thought Rob Jones was fantastic, and he's had a
Speaker 2: really good week at camp as well, and continues to
Speaker 2: progress towards a possible starting opportunity if that, if that
Speaker 2: makes itself available. His relationship between his hands and his
Speaker 2: feet like he's always chopping his feet and the hand
Speaker 2: punch looks you know, fast and intentional. He he goes
Speaker 2: gets his block too. He's been picking up the different
Speaker 2: games and going out and finding the looper before they
Speaker 2: have a chance to angle around that corner and build
Speaker 2: up speed. He goes and gets it. And he's also
Speaker 2: played with an edge. I thought Rob Jones had a
Speaker 2: really good day on the offensive line. Thought Aaron Brewer
Speaker 2: had another fantastic day, really clean past that to continues
Speaker 2: to get outside on some wide runs. I thought Lester
Speaker 2: Cotton got some good surge in the running game today.
Speaker 2: I mentioned that to Kyle, like, I don't know Less
Speaker 2: was having a good day today. He said, well, yeah
Speaker 2: it is. You know, he is going against you know,
Speaker 2: certain threes and four, so that's something to you know,
Speaker 2: think about some defenders I forgot about. Zach Seeler had
Speaker 2: a sack and his effort just always is on display.
Speaker 2: Also an absolute one on one pass rush clinic from
Speaker 2: Steeler today, Deshan Han did a good job pushing the
Speaker 2: pocket pretty consistently. I felt Jonathan Harris had a sack
Speaker 2: in team drills. He's really picked it up the last
Speaker 2: five or six days or so. And then saran Neil
Speaker 2: I mentioned this to Kyle, Are we sure he's just
Speaker 2: a special teams guy? Because he makes plays at cornerback
Speaker 2: every day and there's a real intensity to him. And
Speaker 2: you know, Kyle told me that Joe Marino, locked on
Speaker 2: Bill's podcast Friend of Our Podcast, said that he would
Speaker 2: go up to camp every year and be like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see more reps from saran Neil at cornerback,
Speaker 2: and they wouldn't do it. And he said that he
Speaker 2: would talk to the coaching staff, you know, at Media
Speaker 2: Availabilities and like, well, he's so valuable to us on
Speaker 2: special teams that it's more of a break glass, you know,
Speaker 2: in case of emergency. And maybe that's what they view
Speaker 2: it here. I don't know. I don't know the thinking there,
Speaker 2: but when I watch him play cornerback, he looks really
Speaker 2: damn good. Actually, last one here, So Jason Miitre had
Speaker 2: a run stuff today. Another pick in one on ones.
Speaker 2: That's two picks in two days, and one on ones
Speaker 2: in a drill that is designed for the offense to
Speaker 2: make the defense look silly, very fun day. Let's do
Speaker 2: some rough days real quick. Austin Jackson wasn't his best day,
Speaker 2: but he's been a good all camp long, so not
Speaker 2: concerned about that at all. Jaquan Burton had a couple
Speaker 2: of drops, bracks and barrios. Just there's not the extra
Speaker 2: gear there on the vertical shots, and it's they've been
Speaker 2: so close to some deep balls from two of the
Speaker 2: just didn't quite get reeled down by the receiver trying
Speaker 2: to accelerate through that. Hayden Roucchie, Andrew Meyer, Ryan Hayes,
Speaker 2: Ethan Bonner, and Patrick mc morris were all guys that
Speaker 2: were kind of getting picked on. My it's a little
Speaker 2: bit today. Orange Jersey predictions for the scrimmage at hard
Speaker 2: Rockstadum tomorrow. I got Jalen Ramsey's my first pick, Kendall
Speaker 2: Fuller is my second, and Rob Jones is my offensive
Speaker 2: pick there. So if you guys want to come out
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