Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
Speaker 1: This week we have a very special guest, Maria. Welcome
Speaker 1: to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: I am so excited to have you. I feel like
Speaker 1: this year, influencing content creating has blown up so much,
Speaker 1: and with your platform of obviously The Bachelor, Yeah, has
Speaker 1: that changed your life?
Speaker 3: Honestly, Like, it's crazy where it's taken me. And like,
Speaker 3: although after coming off of it, I was like, I
Speaker 3: didn't want to become like an influencer type, Like I
Speaker 3: didn't expect for it to like blow up the way.
Speaker 2: That it did.
Speaker 3: I've been a big fan of the show always. Everyone
Speaker 3: knows this, and yeah, I didn't expect what was it.
Speaker 3: I didn't expect from like even call her daddy, reaching
Speaker 3: out like stuff like that. The things I've done since
Speaker 3: the show, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like wild, and you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: are go on the yes to find love, but then
Speaker 1: also to get some incentive for themselves. But that was
Speaker 1: not your intention, even in the slightest, Like it's.
Speaker 3: So funny because I was very honest about wanting to
Speaker 3: go on the show. To go on the show because
Speaker 3: I loved the show, but not like I think people
Speaker 3: can recognize that I'm not trying to be an influencer.
Speaker 3: I actually kind of suck at it. I like my Instagram,
Speaker 3: I barely posted. Actually, more recently, i've been okay with it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, definitely wasn't thinking that I wanted to
Speaker 3: do influencing after the show.
Speaker 2: I just really wanted to be on the show. Yeah. Yeah, also,
Speaker 2: but I loved that would have been the better alternative.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: But it's not like you and Joey did not have
Speaker 1: a connection. And it's funny because I obviously The Bachelor
Speaker 1: is such a famous show, The Bachelor and Bachelorette.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: Not a religious watcher, and my friends and I so
Speaker 1: happened to watch your season. So watching it, I was
Speaker 1: a die hard for you, die hard. I wanted you
Speaker 1: to win. I just thought everything about you, you had
Speaker 1: the confidence, you were beautiful, and I also felt that
Speaker 1: Italian vibe from you. Yeah, so I was like, she's
Speaker 1: gonna take it home and whenever he would do like
Speaker 1: a left turn, but then I also felt left turns
Speaker 1: from you. I was like, uh, I know she's not
Speaker 1: in it. Well, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: And that's funny that you say the Italian thing. It's like,
Speaker 3: we have that strong personality.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Your mom is like, that's why I love that about
Speaker 3: your family, is that you're strong, You're loud. You guys
Speaker 3: are like you say it how it is and you know.
Speaker 3: And so I always said, like, the people that are
Speaker 3: gonna get me are going to be my kind of people. Yes,
Speaker 3: although that wasn't the case for everyone. It was you
Speaker 3: either loved me or hated me. It was there was
Speaker 3: no in between. Yeah, but so I love to hear that.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: It was very obvious, even from a viewer standpoint though,
Speaker 1: to see that you were being attacked.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and it's so crazy. Actually, I was
Speaker 3: getting coffee today and a girl came up to me
Speaker 3: and she was like, to be honest, was it real?
Speaker 3: Like did it like housewives?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: what's so funny.
Speaker 3: It's like, as a viewer of the show, sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 3: there's just no way these fights are so dumb.
Speaker 2: There's no there's something's like off.
Speaker 3: Until I went on the show and then I realized,
Speaker 3: oh my god, there are just people out there that
Speaker 3: you know. But here's the thing about Sydney, I like
Speaker 3: appreciate her now, like looking back, I can really because
Speaker 3: we needed that.
Speaker 2: That like made the show in ways. It kind of
Speaker 2: made the season iconic. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3: I needed, Like, I mean, I wasn't gonna gonna start dramma,
Speaker 3: but I was okay to it happened.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, you also have to always think
Speaker 1: about it. Your haters are also your biggest cheerleaders.
Speaker 2: Well I mean she not that I say, a cheerleader.
Speaker 2: Did you see her cheer? That was a kind of fitting.
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, that was fun.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I forgot about that, which you know what
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like in person was it was better?
Speaker 2: I promise?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, but then again, when you are
Speaker 1: also in a setting like that, you guys don't get
Speaker 1: your phones, right, no, yes, so you don't get your phones.
Speaker 2: It's very isolating.
Speaker 1: You're around a bunch of girls, you're basically fighting over
Speaker 1: the same man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna go insane.
Speaker 1: There's no way that people could think that that shit's
Speaker 1: not real, because I would kill a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't know how you went on
Speaker 2: that show, I would die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I went into it with the mindset that
Speaker 3: he's gonna pick one of us, so ideally, let's just
Speaker 3: all get.
Speaker 2: Along and then do the best bitchmen you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Well whatever, But I tried to just really just tell myself, like,
Speaker 3: if it's not me, it's not meant to be. Like,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be in an environment where I'm
Speaker 3: fighting these women for a man.
Speaker 2: I don't. That's why I'll never do a show where
Speaker 2: it's like that again.
Speaker 1: And at the same time, it's kind of self respect
Speaker 1: for yourself. Yeah, you don't want to seem desperate, no,
Speaker 1: and you want to just look confident. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that's even women struggle, regardless of the bachelor or not,
Speaker 1: when you really want a man but a man doesn't
Speaker 1: want you. You never want to come off desperate. No,
Speaker 1: you want to come off confident because then you would
Speaker 1: think the man would want you more. Well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that also, like there's no point
Speaker 3: of like overstepping or giving too much when like it's
Speaker 3: kind of smart to be self aware and like know
Speaker 3: your place, And I think I knew my place almost
Speaker 3: too much to the point where like producers are like
Speaker 3: Maria like, no, you're you're, you're, you're it, You're he
Speaker 3: likes you.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know, I think it's Kelsey, guys.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Like I was so self aware to
Speaker 3: the point where I was like self sabotaging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, although I could.
Speaker 3: Have like tried, you know, to continue it, but you know,
Speaker 3: when you just know that it's not you, you have
Speaker 3: the feeling, you just know and like I and maybe
Speaker 3: I could have been wrong in times and maybe I
Speaker 3: was like again in my head too much, but.
Speaker 2: I think I mean, now I got my ass at home.
Speaker 2: I think I was right. But it's it's very hard
Speaker 2: in that environment. Yeah, it brings it can bring out
Speaker 2: the worst and uh, but it can bring out the
Speaker 2: best too.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of good moments too that I
Speaker 3: wish we're shown with the girls, like, yeah, we had
Speaker 3: a lot more funny moments, but obviously the drama will
Speaker 3: over always.
Speaker 1: Like always over. Yeah, yeah, for sure, that's how it is,
Speaker 1: even on Housewives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I love reality. I would like to do
Speaker 3: more of it, and I think just in a more like.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why people are fell in love with you
Speaker 1: because you felt really real and but that's why it
Speaker 1: also stuck past the Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for saying that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, no, no, I mean, hello,
Speaker 1: you were unwell this week?
Speaker 2: Guy? Yeah, no, that's crazy, and like you need to
Speaker 2: come to one of those events. I would love to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my god, she would love to have you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait, definitely, yeah, let me talk about that.
Speaker 2: But for sure.
Speaker 3: Wait, I love that though, because I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: you were like raised around cameras. Yeah, like you're like
Speaker 3: more used to it than anything.
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I'm definitely used to it. It started from
Speaker 1: when I was eight. Wow. And yeah, my mom was
Speaker 1: the OG, so she's been on it from the start.
Speaker 1: She's the only standing OG damn, So kudos to mom.
Speaker 1: But yeah, now she's been through a lot. It's definitely
Speaker 1: been a ride. We've been through a ton on this show,
Speaker 1: and it's been a lot of ups and downs with.
Speaker 2: My family and you know, we made it out.
Speaker 1: And everyone's doing really good right now, but then we
Speaker 1: still go through ups and downs.
Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't but that's real life.
Speaker 3: That's what people want to see that it's like authentically, Yes,
Speaker 3: your family and you know what I mean, like, no
Speaker 3: one's perfect.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I like that side of things,
Speaker 2: of showing the realness of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of unwell, I always wondered, are the parties
Speaker 1: as crazy as they look? Oh? Yeah, there's so much fun,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not getting like I was because I was
Speaker 1: just in Miami for my cousin's batch party. Were you
Speaker 1: there around the same time, like, oh week, No, like
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, I'm gonna says I.
Speaker 2: Would have like, oh, I know, I know it was.
Speaker 2: They're crazy. They're crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were drunk? Oh well, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: like we were having like a good old time for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean like it's hard not to be. There's so
Speaker 2: much access to all the drinks, and then it's.
Speaker 3: Like all the people that are there, you know, I
Speaker 3: think everyone's like really comfortable with each other so regardless
Speaker 3: in that environment, Yeah, we're all like in it together.
Speaker 1: You know. No, for sure, they look crazy and know
Speaker 1: so much fun. And she picked like such amazing people too.
Speaker 3: She always brings the best crew, and I think, like,
Speaker 3: like I said, everyone just gets.
Speaker 2: Along so well, so it makes it even more fun.
Speaker 1: Did you do know everyone prior. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: a random brand trip in a way.
Speaker 3: Well, I know, like the people that I were under
Speaker 3: and well like originally because I've gone to like other events,
Speaker 3: but this time she's invited new people and I got
Speaker 3: to know and meet new people. So yeah, it's always fun.
Speaker 3: It's always good, and she always brings a good crew.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I saw Rachel kirkconin Oh my god, Kirconnell, would you
Speaker 3: say her?
Speaker 2: Connic? I love it.
Speaker 1: But you know, she even when I was like reading
Speaker 1: her name prior, but I love you.
Speaker 2: Oh, she's the best. So it's so funny because I've never.
Speaker 1: Met her, okay, and I know she was under yeah right,
Speaker 1: not her, but just her relations relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she's doing great and she looks like she's
Speaker 3: she's thriving, and she's such a respectful woman, like the
Speaker 3: way she holds herself.
Speaker 2: I have so much respect for her. Well, you guys
Speaker 2: probably bonded because Bachelor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had followed each other for a while
Speaker 3: and I know we both wanted to meet each other,
Speaker 3: but you know, life goes on, and then it just
Speaker 3: so happened we ended up at the same event and
Speaker 3: we hit it off like as if I've known her forever.
Speaker 2: But that's the best feeling.
Speaker 3: But that's why I knew she was going to be
Speaker 3: a real one from watching her season and then meeting
Speaker 3: her in person was like ten times better love And
Speaker 3: I love that those kinds of moments, you know, because
Speaker 3: you never know what you're gonna get with some.
Speaker 1: People one hundred percent. But no, she's and then also
Speaker 1: after being in the public eye for a while because
Speaker 1: she still also you know, followed that influencing career prior,
Speaker 1: she's great after the Bachelor and everything, Yeah, yeah, exactly, No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's done really well for herself, and you know with
Speaker 1: her relationship and stuff like that. They were really like
Speaker 1: good at influencing together and doing all the food that
Speaker 1: you know, and that must have been hard to like
Speaker 1: break apart from. Yeah, but you also have to do
Speaker 1: what's best for you, absolutely and has been. So I'm
Speaker 1: very happy to see her. And then Tyler Cameron also Bachelor,
Speaker 1: and he's another one that I actually got to know
Speaker 1: this trip, his girlfriend Tate Like love them.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's adorable, she's the.
Speaker 3: Best, and she's so funny and they were just so
Speaker 3: funny together, like again, and I love that where.
Speaker 1: She was also came on the Unwell trip. Was there
Speaker 1: any like conversations about Matt James, I know, because Rachel
Speaker 1: was there, or does she really try to like steer
Speaker 1: clear from.
Speaker 3: She She she's very respectful in the sense of, like,
Speaker 3: you know, like she still appreciates the relationship.
Speaker 2: There's no bad blood like in that.
Speaker 3: She will never speak negative on that, which I respect
Speaker 3: that so much.
Speaker 1: Speaking of just being single out in the world, what
Speaker 1: is the status on your dating, Well, yeah, I'm single,
Speaker 1: which is so crazy because I thought, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: like the year that I'm gonna have I'm gonna like
Speaker 1: go back to reality and do my own thing. But
Speaker 1: I thought for sure I was gonna like probably be
Speaker 1: in a relationship by thirty.
Speaker 2: Or at least have like a prospect.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, and a lot of people say this,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you see it while being in New
Speaker 1: York more often that thirty is so young. Oh it's different,
Speaker 1: especially and now, I mean I get it coming from
Speaker 1: Italian families, they do everything super young. Everything is done
Speaker 1: at a younger age, and you feel the pressure.
Speaker 2: But even being in New.
Speaker 1: York, a lot I see influencers in New York friends
Speaker 1: in New York. They're in their late twenties and thirties
Speaker 1: and still figuring it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, and now, yeah, that'll always be me.
Speaker 3: I'm very honest about it too, Like as a thirty
Speaker 3: year old, like, of course, when you're twenty five, you
Speaker 3: think by thirty, I'm gonna have kids, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And now I'm thirty, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I'm nowhere near yes ready for that. But I definitely
Speaker 3: am open and and like I want a relationship. I like,
Speaker 3: I'm ready for that. Yeah. But yeah, I definitely thought
Speaker 3: I thought i'd be sitting here and telling you about that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, how about you. I've been with my boyfriend
Speaker 1: for like six years.
Speaker 2: That's so nice. Yeah to his mom and dad love.
Speaker 1: Love Yeah yeah, my mom loves him anything she needs.
Speaker 1: It's Christian.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1: But my dad he visits him with me in the
Speaker 1: Bahamas because my dad lives in the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, I love the Bahamas.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful there. Yeah, my dad was deported. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know that. No, well damn. So we
Speaker 1: went through legal issues and my mom ended up going
Speaker 1: away first for a little under a year. Then when
Speaker 1: my mom came home, my dad went away, so it
Speaker 1: was like swapping up the parents. And my dad went
Speaker 1: away my freshman year of high school and never came
Speaker 1: home from prison. They deported him and he was only
Speaker 1: living in Italy for a year. So my grandparents brought
Speaker 1: him to America when he was one years old. But
Speaker 1: the laws changed, so his dad became a citizen before
Speaker 1: he was eighteen, an American citizen.
Speaker 2: Was your mom an American citizen? Yes? So then I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought so too, that it was
Speaker 1: that you would automatically become one. I still have questions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's still crazy. And then my grandma became a citizen
Speaker 1: when my dad was nineteen. The law was at the time,
Speaker 1: your mother needs to become a citizen before you're eighteen
Speaker 1: years old, you'll.
Speaker 2: Automatically become an American citizen. My nana did it when
Speaker 2: he was nineteen.
Speaker 1: So then from eighteen on he was responsible for making
Speaker 1: himself an American citizen, which is where he looked up. No,
Speaker 1: so he was in jail for about like three and
Speaker 1: a half years, okay, then went straight to went straight
Speaker 1: to Italy. He was in ice and then at that
Speaker 1: point he kind of was like, I need to call
Speaker 1: it quits. It was just a very crazy experience, very
Speaker 1: hard on the mind. Yeah, I was safe for you, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was you know more so honestly for us we
Speaker 1: could only say daddy fight. Yeah, and for him he's
Speaker 1: actually living it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When he was in ice, he lost like thirty pounds.
Speaker 1: It was worse than prison. It was like crazy experience.
Speaker 1: So it was definitely rough, considering he's also been in
Speaker 1: the States since he was one. Yeah, and it's still
Speaker 1: as rough. I mean, we go visit him, but it's
Speaker 1: it's not the same, you know as having your father present.
Speaker 1: And I know your dad was such an important part,
Speaker 1: is such an important part of your life, you know,
Speaker 1: So it was to imagine it was. It's definitely rough
Speaker 1: even now. I actually just got back from visiting him.
Speaker 1: Arriving in Bahamas is always so amazing. Leaving is the
Speaker 1: hardest part.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: I don't think it ever the tears will ever end.
Speaker 2: No, of course not. It's your father, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Which is crazy, even though you know, I know he
Speaker 1: might have not made the best decisions, but they were
Speaker 1: never he did his time. Though he did his time.
Speaker 1: He wasn't ever hurting anybody. He was never malicious. There
Speaker 1: was no malicious intent, and he's just not a malicious person.
Speaker 1: So your dad is someone that's really important in your life.
Speaker 1: How did he take the whole thing? Was he just
Speaker 1: happy for you and happy for your decision?
Speaker 3: Well, when I first mentioned that I wanted to go
Speaker 3: on the show, he was not excited.
Speaker 2: I could only imagine he was just not about it.
Speaker 3: You know, he's very protective of me, so like he's
Speaker 3: just like, I don't want you going. And like, first
Speaker 3: of all, he knew he can't call.
Speaker 2: Me like we talk every day, which you know, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I mean he trusts me, and like I
Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, like I was,
Speaker 3: so I'm like, I'm doing it. And I didn't even
Speaker 3: know I was doing it until three days before they
Speaker 3: called me.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, we're flying you out, but we don't
Speaker 2: we're not confirming that you're on the show yet. What. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I was in the hotel where they have all
Speaker 2: the girls and they're doing like the pre interview.
Speaker 1: Theres girls that go there that's and then get.
Speaker 2: What we're told.
Speaker 3: I think everyone that that has happened before though, Yes,
Speaker 3: but I think everyone that was in the hotel for
Speaker 3: our season ended up going on. That's why we had
Speaker 3: the most girls, Like I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 3: there's ever been a season with thirty two girls. It
Speaker 3: was like twenty five or something, oh, twenty seven, but
Speaker 3: our girls, there.
Speaker 2: Was a lot of us.
Speaker 3: But I remember sitting in the hotel room and right
Speaker 3: away they take our phones. So now I'm sitting in
Speaker 3: a hotel room being like, I need to call my dad.
Speaker 3: I need to tell him that I'm I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: on the show, like he had to find out through
Speaker 3: reality Steve basically because he like announced the cast. But
Speaker 3: I was able to get like a producer to give
Speaker 3: me her phone at the time to just be like, Okay, Daddy,
Speaker 3: I'm actually going on.
Speaker 2: But it's a crazy process.
Speaker 3: And I understand where his concerns and fears were.
Speaker 2: And I had those.
Speaker 3: Same fears because I didn't want to go and not
Speaker 3: be able to talk to talk to my family. But
Speaker 3: coming back, I don't think he expected the audience or
Speaker 3: people watching the show to have loved me, like I
Speaker 3: know obviously he knows like he sees that in me,
Speaker 3: but coming back, all I had to say to him
Speaker 3: was everything that happened, and he was like.
Speaker 2: What the hell did you just go through? So we
Speaker 2: both were like, what are we about to watch?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but thankfully, by the grace of God, people got
Speaker 3: to see the reality of how things went and kind
Speaker 3: of where things went wrong. And yeah, I felt protected
Speaker 3: in the edit, not in the edit, but like I
Speaker 3: mean like they showed on it very well. That's what
Speaker 3: I was working because I was I thought when I
Speaker 3: was in the house and the girls, some of the
Speaker 3: girls were just I was rubbing them the wrong way
Speaker 3: for some reason. And I remember I had girls like
Speaker 3: Edwina and the sisters and like girls that kind of
Speaker 3: went home early on, but they were like my like
Speaker 3: in the house, like I needed them because we were
Speaker 3: one and the same.
Speaker 2: And so when they left, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm now.
Speaker 3: I'm like I don't know, I just don't I don't
Speaker 3: belong here, Like I'm just not it's just not a
Speaker 3: good moment for me kind of.
Speaker 1: And it was very obvious that you felt as if
Speaker 1: you were the odd one out. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: everyone ganging up on you, but you really held your
Speaker 1: own the entire season. But I think that's why everyone
Speaker 1: admired you so much, because you were so confident and
Speaker 1: it ever really showed through the screen.
Speaker 2: I am so serious.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that because I one of my biggest thing
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna go there be myself, because when
Speaker 3: my family's gonna watch me, I want them to be like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: That's if I went on and did.
Speaker 3: Something that is just out of my comfort zone or
Speaker 3: like out of character, then people would be like, who
Speaker 3: are you trying to like, you know, fool, but no, truthfully, honestly,
Speaker 3: Like that's why I was so happy that it showed
Speaker 3: the things like you guys saw the reality of what.
Speaker 2: I was going through.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if she expected a different result.
Speaker 3: I don't know if she maybe expected people to be like, yeah, Sidney,
Speaker 3: get the bully out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I was like, guys, people were working a nine to five.
Speaker 3: Right now we're on a yacht. Let's let's be cool, girl.
Speaker 2: And I think I said that her.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, let's just be grateful for this moment,
Speaker 3: like look around, yeah, look around. I ain't attacking you, sister,
Speaker 3: but look around and see the view. Let's have fun today.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of like where my like what I
Speaker 3: was constantly trying to tell myself, like, just enjoy your time.
Speaker 3: You don't know it can be your last stake, so
Speaker 3: just enjoy your time here. And that's why I was like,
Speaker 3: why are people trying to make it difficult for themselves too?
Speaker 3: But yeah, no I And that's why I think the
Speaker 3: best part about the cameras were that they were there
Speaker 3: and always there.
Speaker 1: It was like protect or they can hurt you, but yea,
Speaker 1: they protect it.
Speaker 2: I need that.
Speaker 3: I was like please, And I remember telling the camera man,
Speaker 3: I'm like, put it all in.
Speaker 2: I was begging them at one but I'm like put this.
Speaker 3: In, please show everything because I'm like was going crazy?
Speaker 2: Like am I going nuts? Am I nuts? Who's nuts?
Speaker 1: It makes you question, of course, when you're not also
Speaker 1: dealing with somebody that's trying to manipulate every word that
Speaker 1: you're saying. I was when the best was when she
Speaker 1: was like, which again we can laugh about and.
Speaker 2: I worked so cool. Now it's just different.
Speaker 3: But I just remember watching it, mind you, because when
Speaker 3: you're watching it, you see people's confessionals and they're saying
Speaker 3: things that you're hearing for the first time You're like
Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, that girl didn't like I didn't
Speaker 3: even know that girl didn't like me.
Speaker 2: There was a couple of them where I was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit.
Speaker 3: But with Sidney when she was like she I can't
Speaker 3: go into a room without Maria or feeling like Maria
Speaker 3: is gonna attack me, I'm like, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 3: we have a different definition of attack, but.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: But for the most fart, I was like, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Now I can really sit back and just be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was a good time.
Speaker 1: That's what made But that's what made you like so
Speaker 1: iconic too. Obviously, following the Bachelor, there was so much
Speaker 1: noise about you becoming the bachelorette. I was the second
Speaker 1: and you got off. I was like, this is it.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm going to watch Maria's bachelorette season. But
Speaker 1: I was obviously. I know you were asked and you
Speaker 1: said that it was very overwhelming on call Her Daddy
Speaker 1: and that you kind of needed a step back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm curious because you got so much positive feedback and
Speaker 1: everyone loved you. What made you feel so overwhelmed? Was
Speaker 1: it the like, was it just everything to like, so
Speaker 1: it was just.
Speaker 3: Like again the whole thing of being self aware and
Speaker 3: like knowing yourself.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to waste anyone's time.
Speaker 3: It would be like people love as much as they
Speaker 3: love the drama, they love the love story too, And
Speaker 3: I wanted to feel like I can one hundred percent
Speaker 3: put my like full soul into this because I want
Speaker 3: you know, but like and I've said this before, going
Speaker 3: through what I went through on the show, like having
Speaker 3: to rewatch it all back, like it was hard during it,
Speaker 3: and I don't think I fully got to process it.
Speaker 3: And I just knew if I did not take the
Speaker 3: time to process it, like everything I was feeling I
Speaker 3: was having like I was getting like bad panic attacks
Speaker 3: like during the show, like I was going through it
Speaker 3: because again no family, no friends, like just like yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's draining and traumatic.
Speaker 1: Also, like you were saying, if you get a bad edit,
Speaker 1: you're probably thinking, okay, there is also a possibility that
Speaker 1: I could be made to look like.
Speaker 2: Well, there was a murmur before the show started that
Speaker 2: I was a villain, and I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 1: But I know that probably already sent you into a spiral.
Speaker 1: Well I would have like that's yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, to be honest, I wasn't even that scared because
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm not a villain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, what can.
Speaker 3: They even edit to show me being a villain, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't even think I gave them any kind of
Speaker 3: content where they can even make me seem like it.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe my face facial expressions like they can. But
Speaker 3: I was like, that was kind exactly exactly weird on
Speaker 3: her face with her hands like we don't you know?
Speaker 3: But I was I honestly, when I saw that I
Speaker 3: was the villain quote unquote online, I wasn't worried.
Speaker 2: I'm to be honest, it had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 3: But I think it was emotionally draining with the girls
Speaker 3: like I was. I was always like feeling like I
Speaker 3: was on the attack because and that hurt me. Like
Speaker 3: I would like one night like after the whole, like
Speaker 3: I remember Sidney and I having such a great day
Speaker 3: and then later in the night I was called the bully.
Speaker 3: I cried myself to sleep that night, like it was
Speaker 3: I was like, please, like.
Speaker 2: Let me go home because no one wants me here.
Speaker 2: Why am I here?
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to have to stay another day
Speaker 3: if it meant me having to go through the drama
Speaker 3: with the girls. So I was like literally crying myself
Speaker 3: to sleep every night I was going through it on
Speaker 3: the show. So when I got home to my friends
Speaker 3: and family, I got like a little bit of time
Speaker 3: to like kind of try to recover.
Speaker 2: How quick is the turnaround time?
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I got back to then, like
Speaker 1: when you got back to them asking you so like
Speaker 1: so oh for Bachelorette, Yeah, like for you to even
Speaker 1: process like you want it.
Speaker 2: To be honest.
Speaker 3: For example, January it started, and I think bachelor I
Speaker 3: would be March March.
Speaker 2: So you got sent home. I got sent home, so
Speaker 2: I had maybe like well like a month. Oh it's
Speaker 2: like a quick it's a quick.
Speaker 3: Turnover, like turnover and like again I would need to
Speaker 3: go through. But mind you, oh there are they filming
Speaker 3: when they do tells all right.
Speaker 2: After like you go and you do like the limo entrances.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, oh that day Yeah that's.
Speaker 3: Crazy, well like probably two days after. But I never
Speaker 3: did that, so I know there was like rumors about
Speaker 3: me filming. I never filmed anything. No, I just I
Speaker 3: really just know myself and.
Speaker 1: So it was a quick turnaround. Again, you felt exhausted.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was drained and then it is exhausting though, when
Speaker 1: you feel like you're always trying to defend yourself, to
Speaker 1: defend your character. It was, it was, it was definitely exhausting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what you like, like you said, like, well
Speaker 3: everyone was very positive, so how could you feel that way?
Speaker 3: I'm like that's what kept me sane, Like I literally
Speaker 3: was so grateful for that where I was almost like, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe I should do it, but then I was like no, Maria,
Speaker 3: like just just take your step back, go back to reality.
Speaker 2: Like were you.
Speaker 1: Even ready to really fine love yet?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, one hundred percent. I didn't go on the
Speaker 2: like I went on the.
Speaker 1: Show saying for if you were on the Bachelorette, like
Speaker 1: or were you just so mentally like not there yet?
Speaker 3: No, Like I'm so so so ready for a relationship.
Speaker 3: That's why I was. I wanted that that was my
Speaker 3: outcome that I envisioned. So then going on the Bachelor,
Speaker 3: I just didn't know if I can handle all these
Speaker 3: season of that, like having all.
Speaker 1: These conversations with all these guys and like really trying
Speaker 1: to be the like you you need to be on
Speaker 1: your A game, you need to give you have to
Speaker 1: be very open to all these men.
Speaker 2: And so that's probably so exhausting. I mean, it would
Speaker 2: just be hard.
Speaker 3: It would it would be hard, and I can't imagine
Speaker 3: what one would go through.
Speaker 2: Like even Joey on our season.
Speaker 3: You you saw his down days where he was just
Speaker 3: so you know, it's mentally exhausting. And I think, again,
Speaker 3: just it's okay to say no, and especially in this industry,
Speaker 3: I love saying no. I know that sounds like messed up,
Speaker 3: but like reality is, I'm just a regular Canadian girl.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not trying to like do everything and anything.
Speaker 3: I want to do things that excite me and that
Speaker 3: I'm happy to do and I'm so grateful that I've
Speaker 3: been able to do certain things. But again, like I'm
Speaker 3: not afraid to say no, and I think I just
Speaker 3: need to be I just need to like look over
Speaker 3: myself along the way.
Speaker 1: So then with you being okay to say no to things,
Speaker 1: I know that the Bachelorette's on hold right now, which
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. I don't have that ever even happened,
Speaker 1: not that I know of, but I truly think that
Speaker 1: they need a revamp, and I think they need to
Speaker 1: do some things differently.
Speaker 2: So this whole I it could help things like.
Speaker 1: Did they ask anyone were you at asked to be
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor app prior to this hold.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be so honest with you, I really don't
Speaker 3: want to be a part of that narrative again because
Speaker 3: of what happened the last time, Like for whoever they
Speaker 3: asked and who wants to talk about it. I think
Speaker 3: what I thought, I think something that you can appreciate
Speaker 3: and I know is just honesty.
Speaker 2: And I thought me coming out and saying my truth.
Speaker 1: And you were asked the first time and.
Speaker 3: Just saying like I just you know, I thought, you know,
Speaker 3: I mind. I didn't speak for months until like I
Speaker 3: was asked on call or Daddy, But I just figured
Speaker 3: now nowadays it's better to just.
Speaker 2: Kind of err it out there, just just let it be,
Speaker 2: you know. I know people are interested.
Speaker 3: I know when I'm asked, I want whatever, But I
Speaker 3: just think, I don't know, I don't even know how
Speaker 3: to answer it. But Bachelor being on past is probably
Speaker 3: a good thing for them, But at being asked, don't
Speaker 3: there's a lot of girls that came out that said
Speaker 3: that they were asked, so maybe they'll pick one of them.
Speaker 1: I'm like really trying to answer with it, like I'm
Speaker 1: so scarred from like that interview coming out and saying
Speaker 1: what happened the last time that. I'm like, I'm so
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a part of this narrative anymore.
Speaker 1: My loss, well, the whole thing, the whole thing.
Speaker 3: With like me saying my piece, like people thought I
Speaker 3: would like take away from the moment, and I yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't even speak it, like literally traumatizes me because
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, all I did was just
Speaker 3: answer a question and then it became the worst thing
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I got it. They could take the smallest
Speaker 1: thing and blow it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't I really don't want to
Speaker 3: be a part of a narrative of like, oh, what
Speaker 3: were you asked?
Speaker 2: Were you not?
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, you you think your time on the
Speaker 1: Bachelor is kind of just it's concluded, it's it's done.
Speaker 3: Well, did you hear what they're doing with Paradise. They're
Speaker 3: bringing the Golden Golden Bachelor and Bachelorettes with like young people.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, they're going to mix them, mix them on
Speaker 3: the beach. How do you feel about that as a viewer,
Speaker 3: I think that's so weird. I'm just also thinking like
Speaker 3: old school mentality, like in the aspect.
Speaker 2: Of my dad's not going to want to see me
Speaker 2: on a.
Speaker 1: Beach with an older man.
Speaker 3: I think they're they're always trying to like do something
Speaker 3: new to spice things up. Of course, so I'm excited
Speaker 3: to see how it's going to go. I'm not doing
Speaker 3: verydis I've made that very clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go in a reality ship where
Speaker 3: I fight for a guy ever again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ever again.
Speaker 1: It's not fun. No, you want to feel chosen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's the end of the day too. I
Speaker 1: think any girl wants to feel chosen, and as much
Speaker 1: as the bachelor is in an amazing experience. And you
Speaker 1: said how Gentran was like so amazing to be a bachelorette,
Speaker 1: and I feel so bad for her everything that she
Speaker 1: went through, but thank god, now she's so happy with Sasha.
Speaker 2: Are they together? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Okay, well no, no, I think
Speaker 2: her So she had an happy ending.
Speaker 1: I mean she also popped off. You know, you would
Speaker 1: do so good on Dancing with Sorry, thank you.
Speaker 2: I wish one day. I always said, I'm like, I'll
Speaker 2: never say no if I ever was asking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it's such a good opportunity. It's
Speaker 1: such a fun show too. Do I think the Stars
Speaker 1: is another one with The Bachelor that I grew up
Speaker 1: watching because I feel like Dancing with the Stars was.
Speaker 3: Always have They always have a Bachelor bachelorette on it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that's it's it's a great show.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so she found love. Yeah, god, but I
Speaker 1: mean there's others we had a rough experience too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you're ready for that then that's totally fine.
Speaker 1: But it definitely is a hard experience. I wouldn't think
Speaker 1: that it's easy on anybody.
Speaker 3: No, I I think like I'm like old school, I
Speaker 3: want to I want to meet someone just organically, like
Speaker 3: out and about you know, did.
Speaker 1: The Bachelor kind of settle that answer for you?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's definitely opened my dating pool, Like
Speaker 3: I've met a lot of great people from it.
Speaker 1: And has The Bachelor heard it or made it better? No?
Speaker 1: I think Well, I mean I'll try to say positive.
Speaker 1: I think it's been good.
Speaker 3: I think it's weird when like maybe they know too
Speaker 3: much or they watch the show. But I think it's
Speaker 3: I mean, regardless, I don't think anything changed in that
Speaker 3: in that department. Would you say, you now are meeting
Speaker 3: more people that I don't even want to say, like people.
Speaker 1: That are not like normal or public eye people.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's a mix of both probably well, because.
Speaker 3: You know, what what I can say is that being
Speaker 3: on the show, it's it's allowed me to like meet
Speaker 3: a lot of new people at like fun events and
Speaker 3: like fancy events and so like, yeah, like it's brought
Speaker 3: in my horizons. But yeah, I don't know, I've I've
Speaker 3: just gone back to just I'll meet anyone if I
Speaker 3: like them.
Speaker 2: I like them.
Speaker 3: If you're if you were on reality TV, sure, if
Speaker 3: you weren't, like, I like you too.
Speaker 2: Like I'm very open to just meeting a good guy.
Speaker 2: I don't like, that's it. It's that's it.
Speaker 3: Just a good guy, good sense of humor, maybe a
Speaker 3: good style too. Yeah, like thing these are no but
Speaker 3: like honestly, truly, like I'm not I'm kind of one
Speaker 3: of those people that I don't like anyone until I
Speaker 3: like someone, and I just haven't gotten that yet.
Speaker 2: I haven't had that feeling yet where I'm like, yes.
Speaker 1: And I mean I listen on Caller Daddy. You haven't
Speaker 1: been in too many relationships neither, so I mean when
Speaker 1: I situationships, of course, sure, but relationship relationship no. But
Speaker 1: I mean has New York I'm sure being in New York? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you told me you really want to move here,
Speaker 1: truly I do. Do you still or do you still
Speaker 1: have your heart? Like? Do you still feel that attachment
Speaker 1: to Canada too? I feel like that's always home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course of course, but because New York is
Speaker 3: so close to home, I feel like it's like become
Speaker 3: my second home. I'm like, might as well just come
Speaker 3: here as much as I can. I have so many
Speaker 3: amazing friends here now that like, I'm so comfortable being here.
Speaker 3: But of course, like home is home, like I'm Canadian,
Speaker 3: proud Canadian. But of course I would love to be
Speaker 3: in New York as much as I can, especially in
Speaker 3: this summer, and I have.
Speaker 1: To come to the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, are you kidding me? I would love
Speaker 2: to go to the Jersey Shore like we would have
Speaker 2: so much. Okay, we'll go, we'll go. We need so much,
Speaker 2: I know, I know, Okay, we're doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I will take you to obviously, I
Speaker 1: you need like an hour in DJs and that's it,
Speaker 1: just to experience. That's the one where they all used
Speaker 1: to go to, like the oh you're talking y yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that. Every you know what's so crazy
Speaker 1: every place that they have gone to, and that was
Speaker 1: so infamous on Jersey Shore. It's like shitty, it's closed down, shitty,
Speaker 1: closed down, not a thing anymore, Like nobody goes to
Speaker 1: these places. Now we have DJs, which I guess you
Speaker 1: could is it a club? Has been a thing though
Speaker 1: not now we have DJs. I don't know why they
Speaker 1: didn't go to DJs. DJs is not like your New
Speaker 1: York City club.
Speaker 2: I would club. I rarely club.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they're all bars.
Speaker 2: I love. I love a good die bar like fun
Speaker 2: I love it's on the boardwalk.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the DJs is crazy Italian fist pumping. You're
Speaker 1: walking into a black hole. You walk into a black
Speaker 1: hole and you leave blacked out. It is a black hole.
Speaker 2: We need one of those days.
Speaker 1: Parker House is great. It's classy Parker House and columns,
Speaker 1: same owners. So it's on the Blossa. They're not on
Speaker 1: the boardwalk, but they're in like really nice areas. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's classy live music.
Speaker 2: You go upstairs.
Speaker 1: It's not live music, but they call it the Basement's
Speaker 1: God's basement.
Speaker 2: Cool vibes. There got a little bit of all is boardwalk?
Speaker 1: What is it? Jenks Jenkinson's and Jenkinson's is like a variety.
Speaker 1: There's like.
Speaker 2: People of all ages, like it doesn't matter. So you go,
Speaker 2: I need to.
Speaker 1: Show you the waves of the I still haven't seen
Speaker 1: and you howie, Like I would you, guys.
Speaker 2: Would Ally's probably been there.
Speaker 1: It's probably been, I mean because she's from Boston, Yes
Speaker 1: she is, So I don't been living here?
Speaker 2: Has she for a while? Well maybe not a while, but.
Speaker 1: I wonder if she has been to the Jersey Shore
Speaker 1: because that would be so so fun.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've already like envisioned her fist pumping
Speaker 3: in the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's like Halle would already be like ten drinks deep.
Speaker 3: We'd show up and she'd be fist pumping like Halley's
Speaker 3: a time.
Speaker 1: Such a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so fun.
Speaker 1: I love, but we definitely need to set that up.
Speaker 1: That would love to so fun. Yeah. This summer, me
Speaker 1: and all my girls are renting a house too, so
Speaker 1: it's a full girl's house.
Speaker 3: That's I want to do. Hampton's too, I want to
Speaker 3: do I know I've never been. You know, I just
Speaker 3: started like binging summerhouse, like, okay, I need to start,
Speaker 3: you need to start, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I love Page Yeah, just.
Speaker 2: Because I know what a real woman that is.
Speaker 1: I love that woman.
Speaker 3: I don't even know her, and I just started watching
Speaker 3: a couple of episodes and she is such.
Speaker 1: Real, yes real like and I just know her from
Speaker 1: obviously the Bravo world. You know, my mom loves her.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: Amazon lives a lot, so I see her in and
Speaker 1: out of the Amazon Live studio. She is literally amazing
Speaker 1: and I just love every inch of her personality. I say,
Speaker 1: I have it, don't give personality.
Speaker 3: She does it in such the glass like a class
Speaker 3: good way.
Speaker 2: But she really doesn't give up. Yeah, she really like
Speaker 2: you believe her when she doesn't. I know, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I know, I literally watching her. I'm like I would
Speaker 2: need her in my friend group, like she's great, and.
Speaker 3: Like Summerhouse is a show I would I would, you would,
Speaker 3: like I would go on because it's just again, it's
Speaker 3: like it's.
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like to be Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: The only other show that you don't get to keep
Speaker 1: your phones on is like Traders.
Speaker 2: Well damn they even need to stop doing. What do
Speaker 2: you think a phone's gonna do?
Speaker 1: Leave the phone, I know, or at least give us
Speaker 1: a flip phone so we can just call people.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I think it's more so the fact when you're in
Speaker 1: your room and your board, you want something to do.
Speaker 3: But what I can't say is I got the best
Speaker 3: sleep on The Bachelor, because did you when I hit
Speaker 3: my head hit the pillow, I was out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because you're not scrolling distracted, you're not distracted. There's no
Speaker 3: TVs either, And the purpose of it obviously is because
Speaker 3: for you guys.
Speaker 2: Not to leak at anything, probably right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably that, And like I mean, you want to
Speaker 3: stay focused, yeah, and they want to be able to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, get you up in the morning and you're
Speaker 3: not like screwing around.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: There was a couple of times where I like pay
Speaker 3: because I could probably get in trouble for saying this,
Speaker 3: but I don't care because don't keep you away from
Speaker 3: my family. I paid a couple of housekeepers to use
Speaker 3: their phones whenever we'd be in hotels, and it's so funny.
Speaker 3: I would tell the girls and I'm like, did you
Speaker 3: guys like try to get a phone?
Speaker 1: When they're like, did you have money?
Speaker 2: You just had cash.
Speaker 3: You had cash, Okay, I brought cash in case and
Speaker 3: you might be traveling and I just had it. And
Speaker 3: luckily so the first hotel room we were in, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I paid like fifty dollars once for ten
Speaker 3: minutes to use their phone. One time, I like got
Speaker 3: in store for like two seconds with my producer. She
Speaker 3: would like had to go to the bank next door,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: This is so bad. This is this.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I ever told it, but
Speaker 3: I was like, sir, listen, I need your phone.
Speaker 2: I'm on a reality show. I need to call my dad.
Speaker 3: So I did, and every time I would call from
Speaker 3: a random number, I would be like Maria, I'm like Dad,
Speaker 3: It's like the weirdest thing to think about because it's
Speaker 3: like why can't I just call my dad?
Speaker 2: Literally?
Speaker 3: No, But when I did get to potentially get a phone,
Speaker 3: I took that risk every time. Sorry, no, sorry, not sorry,
Speaker 3: Like I'm sorry, you would probably do the same, like
Speaker 3: and it was crazy. I'd be girls talk to your
Speaker 3: parents are like No, I'm like, guys, I'm about to
Speaker 3: pay this guy for his phone for two minutes, Like
Speaker 3: I don't know how you're doing it. But yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it's funny. I had to, you're fully, I was about
Speaker 3: to go on an eight and hour flight. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to talk to my dad before I do it
Speaker 3: for you crazy, I had to.
Speaker 1: No, I love that I had to.
Speaker 3: I'm a daddy's girl too, always like, don't leave me
Speaker 3: around on attended phone.
Speaker 2: Yea, even men these days.
Speaker 3: I'll take their phone too, But no, I yeah, I
Speaker 3: had to do what I had to do.
Speaker 1: No, I love that I would have done the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who has been the craziest person now that has slid
Speaker 1: into your DMS? I know you've said, not too many.
Speaker 2: Slid in it's crazy. No, I'm not. I still stand
Speaker 2: with this.
Speaker 3: Like, no one's well, like, obviously there's guys and stuff
Speaker 3: that signed to my dance, but no one that I'd.
Speaker 2: Be like, now, no, honestly, how about you?
Speaker 1: Same?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like I don't know this. Am I missing the.
Speaker 1: NFL players that slide into girls dms. I'm like, I must.
Speaker 2: Not be on their roster? Yeah? Same, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I and I would so not think that from
Speaker 1: you because you.
Speaker 2: Wait, really, because you know, I want people to think.
Speaker 1: That I'm getting I would think that because you came
Speaker 1: off like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all women, which I love.
Speaker 3: It was all girls like being like I love you
Speaker 3: telling me their's stories. I'm like, that meant more to
Speaker 3: me than, of course, any NFL player trying to sign
Speaker 3: to my damn of course, and they feel like anyway,
Speaker 3: but it's I know, I don't want I don't need that.
Speaker 3: I want a nice stay at home boy. I don't
Speaker 3: want him to be making tiktoks. I don't want to
Speaker 3: be making reels. I just wanted to like come home
Speaker 3: and then like, you know, watch a movie with me.
Speaker 3: That's just I just want to get potato just to
Speaker 3: be there with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm like cook just do wholesome too.
Speaker 2: I'm an eater.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not a cooker, but I'll eat no cook
Speaker 1: I know, what a disgrace to the Italians.
Speaker 2: Yes, so your moment, say hi, I will.
Speaker 1: She literally loved you when she wat you at the
Speaker 1: House of Villains. She was like, wait, she's so cute,
Speaker 1: because sometimes she would come in and watch Bachelor with
Speaker 1: me and my friends. Yes, but she was like, she's
Speaker 1: so cute and so tiny like that.
Speaker 2: Everyone thinks that I'm taller than I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one thing I always get there, like
Speaker 3: you're so tiny in person.
Speaker 2: It's you and the girls are short that. But at
Speaker 2: least we can wear heels on a regular day.
Speaker 1: I mean less than I'm totally a heels girls at night.
Speaker 1: But I also love my sneakers.
Speaker 3: I'm so com I'm in crocs half the time or
Speaker 3: like comfye can maybe not crocs, but like I wear
Speaker 3: You should see the shoes I was. I was roaming
Speaker 3: around so and it was really bad, and I and
Speaker 3: I wore that to a bar too. We were all
Speaker 3: like having a day Sunday, fun day, and I was
Speaker 3: dressed in track pants. Anyways, but I'm an Adam Sandler
Speaker 3: most of the time.
Speaker 2: I don't normally dress up. But when I do, it's fun.
Speaker 1: No, it's fun. But even this, I love this. It's
Speaker 1: casual and still super with you. I'm this is me.
Speaker 1: I'm casual.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're more of like a girly girl.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I'm in a I'm going to work out
Speaker 1: outfit every day.
Speaker 2: Oh good, Well least you know you're working out. Good
Speaker 2: for you, you're an active queen.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm going to work out outfit or I'll
Speaker 1: like you know, honestly, my time to get dressed up
Speaker 1: is events.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's my excuse all the time.
Speaker 1: That's the only time action. Yeah, it's that or dinner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's really it. When else do I like my
Speaker 1: Amazon lives I'm dressed like this?
Speaker 2: Well that's well, I mean that's casual.
Speaker 1: Just casual. Are you doing influencing full time?
Speaker 2: Is that? I mean?
Speaker 3: I mean I have an agent, okay, and I'm very
Speaker 3: selective with what I do, Like, I want to be
Speaker 3: honest when I'm like promoting these things, So I'm very
Speaker 3: like I'll do some things.
Speaker 2: It's not like I don't. I want to do more reality.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm we're working on.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I just got out of my contract literally a week ago.
Speaker 1: I'm from Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just got out of my contract. I'm a
Speaker 2: free woman.
Speaker 1: So now you're free to go on any network. Yeah
Speaker 1: so now like Bravo, she is up for.
Speaker 2: Grubs please, but yeah no I want That's when I'm like,
Speaker 2: so good on somewhere. Well, I literally binged these episodes.
Speaker 1: I'm like and not what am they just am I wrong?
Speaker 1: But they just added kind of added people.
Speaker 3: She was Canadian. Canadian one of the girls, Lexi would
Speaker 3: she's a Canadian?
Speaker 1: Okay, foreshadowing maybe Well see, I mean I'm open, I'm
Speaker 1: meeting with a lot of people. I have a really
Speaker 1: good agency right now. That's like, you know, setting me
Speaker 1: up but amazing. Yeah, and I feel like Bravo is
Speaker 1: the reality network.
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred percent, like you know, yes, yeah, but
Speaker 3: that's more or less what I'm like leaning towards. I'm
Speaker 3: very just open. But again I think I'm I think
Speaker 3: I'm over the fighting other women for a man and
Speaker 3: just that challenge. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't want to
Speaker 3: do that ever again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think the best way, you know,
Speaker 1: people saw your real personality throughout the Bachelor, and now
Speaker 1: that you're out of your contract, Bravo. She's up for grabs.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you she's a real one and she would
Speaker 1: be great on the network.
Speaker 2: But this would be fun for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm very open and like you said, there's going
Speaker 1: to be new things coming along. So when people come
Speaker 1: up and I feel like, you know, lovey Bravo. They
Speaker 1: are undergoing lots of changes right now in general, just
Speaker 1: with you know, bandor pump Rules being shut down, there's
Speaker 1: always or on pause.
Speaker 2: That I'm pretty sure shut down. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm there's always there's always room for improvement, revamp, adding
Speaker 1: new people. And they also love fun and exciting new guests.
Speaker 2: Everyone does.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a good thing to it's refreshing.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, we'll see then. I'm putting it in
Speaker 1: the air. It's gonna be I love you good good
Speaker 1: karma for sure. I'm gonna say names of guys on
Speaker 1: the internet, say if you've hooked.
Speaker 2: Up with them or not?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm like, WHOA, Okay, I honestly haven't. I've been
Speaker 3: on a on a celibacy. I think I'm a boring
Speaker 3: of I'm fully celibate, so people.
Speaker 2: Think i'm dating this person that I'm like, Nope, I
Speaker 2: mean that's honestly great. Play the game, Okay, play the game,
Speaker 2: but I love that for you. I want to say
Speaker 2: that on the podcast. Sorry, I mean, she's just.
Speaker 1: Waiting for the one that's right. She's waiting for the
Speaker 1: right guy.
Speaker 2: Nice guy.
Speaker 1: So nice guy maybe slide into the DMS because it's
Speaker 1: what she's waiting for.
Speaker 2: Would a nice guy slide in a DM. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's more of a coffee date. But
Speaker 1: they could find could slide into the DM and and
Speaker 1: ask you in a polite, respectful way. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: way of doing it that doesn't sound it doesn't cringe
Speaker 1: me out. Yeah, hopefully I'll let you know. I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of things would still cringe, right, but okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Carl from Summerhouse never met the man. What
Speaker 1: is the speculation? So that's why I'm like, if it's
Speaker 1: anyone online, there's no even wait, so how did they
Speaker 1: even make this rumor if you've never even met this one? Like,
Speaker 1: was so funny because I saw doom.
Speaker 3: Someone sent me the Duma post of someone being like
Speaker 3: just saw Maria Georgis and Carl on a date in
Speaker 3: la at some restaurant, and I literally wrote back to
Speaker 3: Juan like I'm I'm in Canada, like right now, I'm
Speaker 3: in Canada. Like she's like, oh my god, sorry, like
Speaker 3: I'll and I never write back to this stuff. But
Speaker 3: I was like, this is just this is annoying because
Speaker 3: it was like one thing after another after another, and
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, like I'm actually in Canada and
Speaker 3: I never met this man.
Speaker 2: So they corrected it, but from that post, they just
Speaker 2: created a story.
Speaker 3: That's just usually how it goes. I didn't know that
Speaker 3: this is probably gonna sound very naive, but I didn't know.
Speaker 3: You didn't really need a credible source to create a
Speaker 3: story out of nothing. So there, yeah, I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like, no, they literally and want corrected it,
Speaker 3: but they still ran with the first post, but never
Speaker 3: because look for that one thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it doesn't matter, they'll yeah, they'll take the
Speaker 1: we'll just run from it, even if because if the
Speaker 1: correcting is too late, yeah, yeah, of course, odds are.
Speaker 1: What they should have done is honestly just taken the
Speaker 1: article down.
Speaker 2: Well that's why.
Speaker 3: And then there I put that ship down right away,
Speaker 3: like I don't even let it last twenty minutes. I'm
Speaker 3: already posting like this is untrue. I don't know this persona.
Speaker 3: But the thing is, since watching the show, I feel bad.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, maybe because I put the meme of
Speaker 3: Kiki Palmer being like I don't know.
Speaker 2: Who this man is. Because this is truth, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I really didn't.
Speaker 1: See I wonder like if that, like I Carl, I
Speaker 1: wonder why he didn't slide in your DM No no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, but that would have been funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and been like, wow, wish this was true.
Speaker 3: I'm sure because Jesse messaged me, He's like, damn, I'm like, sorry,
Speaker 3: this is like happened.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I really don't. Yeah, it's just it's weird
Speaker 2: how this shit happens.
Speaker 1: But anyways, yes, okay, No, I never hooked up with
Speaker 1: him nothing, Okay, Harry Jowsey know him from.
Speaker 3: Manuel, never hooked up with him, nothing like that. It
Speaker 3: was like friendly because we're in the same environment.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah and fun Yeah, Wes Wilson from.
Speaker 2: I smacked him so he had a thing with my
Speaker 2: So that's another one that I know from somewher.
Speaker 1: You have so many connections to Summer House like many.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like that, but I'm sure I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if they recommend, like they should recommend you if they're
Speaker 1: ever looking for casting.
Speaker 2: I think so yeah, No, that one definitely not.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just I gave him a little smack he asked
Speaker 3: me to do it, and actually smacked him well because
Speaker 3: he was like, I was like, he was seeing my friend.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like they had like this like funny
Speaker 3: back and forth. I don't know if anything went down,
Speaker 3: but I was like, if you ever like screw with her,
Speaker 3: like I'll smack you, and he' said oky case smacking
Speaker 3: smack me. And then I went to go do and
Speaker 3: I guess they filmed in to put on TikTok. But no,
Speaker 3: he's such a nice guy. I just don't want him
Speaker 3: to fuck with any of my friends.
Speaker 2: Understandable, but he seems nice. Okay, love that, but never yet.
Speaker 1: So basically I was just talking about some Summerhouse drama
Speaker 1: with all of that, and Sierra was with Wes last summer, yes,
Speaker 1: and now this summer, Jesse is kind of trying to
Speaker 1: slide in and.
Speaker 2: You know, all the girls on the show like are
Speaker 2: encouraging this behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like for Jesse to slide in with Sierra right,
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of controversial about it.
Speaker 2: I think I would be too. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just recently was with Allie and Jesse was there
Speaker 3: as well. We hopped on the podcast, as I said,
Speaker 3: don't drink in pod. Yeah, but she was calling him
Speaker 3: a homie hopper, and I was like, is this guy
Speaker 3: a homie hopper?
Speaker 2: I'm like, And then I.
Speaker 3: When I binged a couple of episodes, I've been season nine.
Speaker 3: I'm moving backwards.
Speaker 1: Because it's hard because all of the stuff that's being
Speaker 1: talked about.
Speaker 3: I know, I want to know what's going on. But
Speaker 3: then I saw that and I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: does Wes know this is going on? Because Jesse doesn't
Speaker 3: seem that that kind of guy. He actually seems like
Speaker 3: a really good friend, and I know him and West
Speaker 3: are really good friends. But I was like, I don't
Speaker 3: know how I feel about that. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 3: she's I love the guys great, but I love her
Speaker 3: and I think she is such a strong independent woman.
Speaker 3: Don't go don't go around the Frank. I think she
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Usie more wanting her over her wanting him.
Speaker 1: But yes, but it's like you're also catching her maybe
Speaker 1: out of vulnerable like leave her alone, out of vulnerable state.
Speaker 2: Leave her alone, I know, I know. Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: just then I don't know why like Paige and no,
Speaker 2: I don't want to say Page, I love Paige. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: But maybe it's because they're like they see that she's
Speaker 3: down and and like because I think maybe she really
Speaker 3: is a little into Jesse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe they're just like then like go for it,
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: I know. I feel like the girls are kind of
Speaker 1: either go for it, but sometimes it's you know when
Speaker 1: you tell your friend to go for it and deep
Speaker 1: down you're like, maybe you shouldn't because I feel like
Speaker 1: someone needs to be there and saying maybe you shouldn't.
Speaker 2: I feel like she's not going to do anything. I
Speaker 2: feel like she's going to be like absolutely not.
Speaker 3: I think she's just like being flirty because they've always had, well,
Speaker 3: they've always had watched like ten episodes, they've always had
Speaker 3: well they seem to like yeah, I know, right, they
Speaker 3: seem to look like they have like cute, flirtatious banter.
Speaker 3: And I think that's as far as she's gonna let it.
Speaker 3: But I also love when like I love doing that that,
Speaker 3: I love doing that. I feel like it even with
Speaker 3: my boyfriend. I love the flirtatious back and forth banter.
Speaker 1: And when I was single, I feel like flirtatious banter
Speaker 1: is so much fun and it's so enjoyable. It's literally careless,
Speaker 1: effortless fun that also makes you feel good.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think that's what That's as far as that will go.
Speaker 3: But I know that Jesse was getting some heat and
Speaker 3: that's why he was like you Homeie Hopper, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I hope not, but yeah, I'm hoping that
Speaker 3: that's probably as far as it goes. Okay, love that opinion,
Speaker 3: but if she wants to, she can do whatever she
Speaker 3: wants on her terms as long as she's happy, of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Simon from Gen season of The Bachelor, no, no.
Speaker 3: Nothing with him, but he's a great friend and I
Speaker 3: was lucky enough to meet him after Gen season through Charity.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I just met Charity love her at the iHeartRadio Awards.
Speaker 1: She is so sweet, so nice, she's amazing, She's and
Speaker 1: I loved wait and it was so funny because I'm
Speaker 1: so oblivious, like I'm so clueless. I'm sitting there getting
Speaker 1: my makeup done, and I was like, yeah, wait, like
Speaker 1: Bachelor so fun I actually just watched Joey's season. She
Speaker 1: was she goes, I was the one who dumbed Joey.
Speaker 1: My god that I had no idea, no idea. She's great,
Speaker 1: sitting there getting my makeup done with her, she was
Speaker 1: dying laughing. I was like, I'm so sorry, I'm so oblivious,
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, that's where.
Speaker 2: Joey came from.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, thank you Charity for dumping Joey. We
Speaker 3: had our season, but yeah, no, Cherry is the best.
Speaker 3: But no, I met him through them, and so we
Speaker 3: all just like hung out one night. I know people
Speaker 3: were a little like taken aback by that, but I
Speaker 3: was like, guys, what do you think Paradise is? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Paradise is literally exactly that I'm just doing in real life.
Speaker 2: But no, it's home. It's literally homieh hoping. But no,
Speaker 2: I think he's great. But no, never okay, Blake Gray.
Speaker 2: Oh for a second, oh my god, that's so mean.
Speaker 2: I was like, who's that? But no, okay, wait I'm dead. No,
Speaker 2: I met him this weekend.
Speaker 1: I love him a second to me a second I
Speaker 1: have then he definitely did, I mean she did, definitely
Speaker 1: did not hook up.
Speaker 3: No, because for a second I went, wait, that sounds
Speaker 3: so familiar, and then I went, oh, of course it
Speaker 3: was like the Blake Gray together.
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't realize that was his last name.
Speaker 2: But he's so sweet. He was a newcomer, never been
Speaker 2: to an unwell event, and he was sweet.
Speaker 1: Okay, another little fun game. I'm just gonna name guys
Speaker 1: that have been honestly pretty hot on the internet and
Speaker 1: just known right now and just let me know if
Speaker 1: you would have interested in them or not, may date
Speaker 1: them or not? All right, Okay, Rob from Love Island.
Speaker 1: He's very pretty boy, pretty boy.
Speaker 2: But I think I don't know. I would have to
Speaker 2: meet him first. I've never met him yet. Pretty boy.
Speaker 2: It looks like he's I think he's beautiful. Do I
Speaker 2: what I want. I'm very into snake. I know he's
Speaker 2: like and I just he loves snakes and oh he's
Speaker 2: like a big like. I'm so confused. I feel like
Speaker 2: as a virgo, I should like the forest more. I'm
Speaker 2: not an outdoorsy girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean maybe that would not work out
Speaker 1: for him, and I would definitely be like, say he
Speaker 1: brought you back to his place, there would definitely be
Speaker 1: like a snake a snake thing.
Speaker 2: What are those calls?
Speaker 1: Make me hold a snake? Yeah that sounds wrong, but
Speaker 1: probably turns out in some weird way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, yeah, I could seem just like playing
Speaker 3: with it in his hands while he's talking to me.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't know, he seems he seems very sweet though. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a beautiful boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll meet him one day, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, he's obviously everywhere right now. But Craig Connover, no,
Speaker 1: I want to know.
Speaker 2: You know, he's Page's ex. Oh no, I'm team Page.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I really don't know what happened
Speaker 2: between them. Honestly, she is just iconic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she basically came into her own and I think
Speaker 1: just became so busy, you know, not.
Speaker 2: Even like I think she's just she's.
Speaker 1: Living her life. Yeah, and it's what she's always wanted
Speaker 1: to take. It was a too fast pace for him
Speaker 1: in a way.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I know, I actually one of the
Speaker 3: episodes that I was watching, she was he was like
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was going to date such a
Speaker 3: dominant woman or something along those lines, and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: you can't keep up with her, then goodbye.
Speaker 1: And she's like strong Italian one too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for so much. But he seems like a nice
Speaker 2: guy though.
Speaker 1: No, but yeah, not bashing you at all, but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: really nice guy. I think he kind of just needs
Speaker 1: a mellow yeah, kind of it's hard comfortable girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think there needs to be
Speaker 3: balance in the relationship. You guys both can't be after
Speaker 3: the same things. I always feel like you're in competition.
Speaker 1: Well when you're also both in the television network. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's too much, So.
Speaker 3: Greg Grippo, No, he dated another girl in the franchise,
Speaker 3: and like, I just feel like staying away from bachelor
Speaker 3: boys in general in general, it's just too messy.
Speaker 2: It's like high school, Like I knows, very nice.
Speaker 3: Guy though, very nice. Yeah, I'm like, as I want
Speaker 3: to be as political as again, very nice guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but yeah, Okay, Well let's end on giving
Speaker 1: some advice to the girls.
Speaker 3: Don't rush into anything, like you know, enjoy your twenties,
Speaker 3: have fun, like experience things that you maybe never would
Speaker 3: experience it. Do it while you're in your twenties, because
Speaker 3: you so much, because as a thirty year old and
Speaker 3: you're still figuring it out. So I'm saying it's okay
Speaker 3: to speak, but we're stilling it out.
Speaker 1: You still look and just your personality, like you look amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
Speaker 1: I would never think you're thirty and years. You literally
Speaker 1: look my age. I love you. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 2: I'm always oldest in the room, always wherever I go.
Speaker 1: You don't look at nor act like it.
Speaker 2: And you have a little snary No. See, you're twenty
Speaker 2: three and you act like a woman, which is like
Speaker 2: a lady what you are? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But I appreciate that. No, that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: I mean beyond like, don't tell me I look thirty,
Speaker 1: think you. No, thirty isn't even what is thirty anymore?
Speaker 1: Thirty is the new twenty now, like that's what it is.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's it's crazy going through your boyfriend's phone.
Speaker 1: One two, Yes, absolutely, I just said don't leave an
Speaker 1: unattended phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because well why it's just yes and no, I
Speaker 3: want to lie no weekend. Well, the thing is, it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't ever want to be in a position where
Speaker 3: I feel the need to I.
Speaker 1: Want to be It's annoying because you don't want to
Speaker 1: feel like you're not trusting your partner, right, But if
Speaker 1: it's their assurance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. If I ever feel like I
Speaker 2: need to see it, I need to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, and he shouldn't have a problem with that
Speaker 3: because I would be like saying, here you go, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I think it's like a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. It's like I'm digging for something.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of just snooping to look. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I look, we're just changing the words, not digging. It's snooping.
Speaker 1: So it's better.
Speaker 2: But no, I I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're if you have that gut feeling,
Speaker 3: just do it. It'll make you sleep better at night
Speaker 3: knowing you're gonna look at some point. It might not
Speaker 3: be that day, you're gonna find a way to look
Speaker 3: at it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, at some point, so just do it. Whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, how long should you wait to sleep with a guy?
Speaker 1: What's your number of dates?
Speaker 3: Okay, I actually have something to say about this because
Speaker 3: I have always been a huge advocate for like really
Speaker 3: getting to know someone before you you open that kind
Speaker 3: of worms because you want to feel good about the situation.
Speaker 3: Like I like, there is a big difference between having
Speaker 3: sex with someone you just met and then like having
Speaker 3: sex with someone you really know. It just it's to me,
Speaker 3: it makes all the difference and it always just ends
Speaker 3: up being a waste of time. Not that I've done it, like,
Speaker 3: oh look at me, I'm like one night stand now,
Speaker 3: But sure, I feel.
Speaker 2: Like you kind of do have to live in the
Speaker 2: moment a little bit, right when it comes to that say, I.
Speaker 3: Was going to say, because I had a friend who
Speaker 3: would always have sex with a Okay, not always not
Speaker 3: the word is right. She had sex with all of
Speaker 3: her boyfriends on the first night.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I don't think gonna lie I had
Speaker 1: sex with Christian on the first side.
Speaker 2: So this is what I was gonna say. If the
Speaker 2: man that's.
Speaker 1: Never me to be like, oh my gosh, because I
Speaker 1: in my head I'm like, Okay, the third date seems good.
Speaker 2: I changed my mind. So well, I'll tell you something.
Speaker 2: So this is this is where my stance is, and
Speaker 2: this is this.
Speaker 1: Is especially just coming from old school Italians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Does?
Speaker 3: My thing is this, do whatever feels right in the moment,
Speaker 3: because if the man's gonna love you, and if the
Speaker 3: man likes you enough, you can fuck him on the
Speaker 3: first in the first ten seconds and he's still going
Speaker 3: to treat you with respect and love you up because
Speaker 3: he likes you.
Speaker 2: If it doesn't work out, he just wasn't for you.
Speaker 3: So I don't think that if you make a guy
Speaker 3: wait doesn't mean you're gonna get him in the end.
Speaker 2: So my thing is do whatever makes don't know, it's
Speaker 2: a gamble, it's it'll always be a gamble.
Speaker 3: The worst thing in the world is wasting a month
Speaker 3: on a guy, holding it off, making him wait for it.
Speaker 3: First of all, if he's not getting it from you,
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna get it from someone else on else.
Speaker 3: But regardless, my thing is this, if if he likes
Speaker 3: you and he respects you, he'll know right away you
Speaker 3: don't need to hold it off to try to keep him.
Speaker 3: He'll wait the month, has sex with you, and then
Speaker 3: dip after regardless.
Speaker 2: Like so, I think it takes it.
Speaker 3: It depends on the man, and it depends on how
Speaker 3: the person feels and how you feel about them.
Speaker 2: So I don't think there ever should be a time.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of girls like to say like,
Speaker 3: I want to wait, I need, I need this certain
Speaker 3: amount of dates. I don't know, it's just it's I
Speaker 3: think it's in the moment thing.
Speaker 2: I agree how you feel. I do, And if he's
Speaker 2: the right guy, then he'll stay no matter what.
Speaker 1: Do you monitor who your boyfriend fallow was on Instagram?
Speaker 1: Yes or no?
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell nowadays. It doesn't go in a
Speaker 2: weird order. Weird order you I'll do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I think there's crazy things on like
Speaker 1: the Internet and stuff where like puts it in order
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: But I mean I think if you're really that crazy,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm like, I've never done it. It's a
Speaker 2: little much.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't, if you have that much
Speaker 1: of a distrust in your man, I feel he shouldn't
Speaker 1: be with him. Yes, should a woman ever offer to
Speaker 1: pay on the first date, not.
Speaker 2: The first day? No, I think I would leave, not
Speaker 2: the first day.
Speaker 1: But always for the whole bill. And yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I always say I go at the moment. A man
Speaker 1: is like if you about the bill, I take it
Speaker 1: and go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, so as soon as he's like, if
Speaker 3: you about the bill, I'll take it paid all and
Speaker 3: then go. But I think it's always polite to like
Speaker 3: at least like, like, you know, go through the try
Speaker 3: to try. I think it's should give an take two
Speaker 3: along the line along, like like a couple of dates later,
Speaker 3: maybe just as you know, but the first date should
Speaker 3: If the man's asking you on a first date, it
Speaker 3: should be him planning it, taking care of it, and.
Speaker 2: Setting off the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's okay for women to make the
Speaker 1: first move if they're interested in a guy?
Speaker 2: Now why not? I feel like it was frowned upon,
Speaker 2: But now I'm like, go for it. But like, I
Speaker 2: think making the first move, like what talking to them?
Speaker 1: Is that saying a conversation?
Speaker 2: Men nowadays? I think.
Speaker 3: They don't Normally, I don't know what's going on these ideas.
Speaker 3: He approaches a lot more like sheltered and shied they
Speaker 3: But sometimes I'm man like, if you like that guy,
Speaker 3: he could be your soulmate, and maybe he's just too
Speaker 3: shy or too awkward to come up.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you have to start.
Speaker 3: It just go up, just be fearless and if you
Speaker 3: start it, maybe he'll take care of the rest. And
Speaker 3: like we'll never let you take care or start anything exactly.
Speaker 2: I think you too.
Speaker 1: If you've seen someone cute, you gotta just go for
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: Who cares? Zone over?
Speaker 1: Thank you, just do it so guy, Maria, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming on Casual Chaos. This was such
Speaker 1: a pleasure and you are such an amazing guest and
Speaker 1: we want to find love for Maria and Bravo, she's
Speaker 1: your next Canada.
Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you so much for having me. Honestly,
Speaker 2: you know this was so fun.