WEBVTT - The Not-So European Getaway with Jenny Mollen

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of What in the Winkler.

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny Mollin is a writer, a comedian, and New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times bestselling author of the essay collections I Like You

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<v Speaker 1>Just the Way I Am and Live Fast, Die Hot,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the national best selling novel City of Likes.

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny mullen is also married to Jason Biggs from American

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<v Speaker 1>Pie Fame. She is hysterically funny and I'm told we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of things in common, so I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited to talk to her today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, Hi, how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, How are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see you, Good to see you two.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for doing this, Thanks for having me. I'm so glad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really you've been.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been so many yours.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's been it's been so many years, and

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<v Speaker 1>like the last couple months feel like it's been twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've bet, I bet, Oh my god, is it

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<v Speaker 2>crazy out there beyond?

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<v Speaker 3>And I know your sister, you know Sam? I do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we have really good friends in common. So one of

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<v Speaker 3>my best.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends, Ashley, is good friends with Sam and Sarah Hendler.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh funny, Okay, Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I get to see her all the time, like

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<v Speaker 1>on the bar Mitzvah bought Mitzvah circuit.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that it was just her sons too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just we were just out there for Luca's.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also we share Amber in common.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's why I think you and I met was

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<v Speaker 4>with Amber that one day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like a huge fan. I loved your instagram

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<v Speaker 1>so sweet. Yeah, and I thought you were so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Amber was like, oh, she's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my closest friends. Here we go, and I was like, great,

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for doing this. I'm really grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you guys been doing this show?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, funny you should ask. So we started in October, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was me and my mom like a mother

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<v Speaker 1>doc because my mom and I are extremely close, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's mentally ill. So we started together just because we

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<v Speaker 1>are funny together and she's insane and makes me insane.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after two episodes, she ended up getting extremely sick.

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<v Speaker 1>She ended up having like sepsis basically, and so she

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<v Speaker 1>got to the hospital. Yeah, so then I started doing

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<v Speaker 1>them on my own, and she's hopefully going to come

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<v Speaker 1>back really soon, so I'm excited for that. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a journey, so I'm learning as i go basically,

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<v Speaker 1>and speaking to people.

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<v Speaker 3>Has been so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just been an amazing experience and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>loving it. But this is like I think I've done

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<v Speaker 1>about like ten episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Okay, so it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Really it's it's new, and it's well, it's fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so most almost all of my all of my

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<v Speaker 1>interviews have been with friends. Today is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm doing one where like I kind of know you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't really know you.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm really excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and Amber's producing.

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<v Speaker 3>This, she sure is.

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<v Speaker 1>It was her idea actually to do a podcast because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been asked so many times to do reality TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I would like ruin everyone's life around me.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was like the best, the next best thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's yeah. So so yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I was actually noticing I've followed you for years,

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<v Speaker 1>but I noticed that you don't show your kids on

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<v Speaker 1>your Instagram, and I was wondering, like, Tom, can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me more about that because I'm trying. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out, like do I show my kids? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I not show my kids? Like what what do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I just never want I don't know. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I think when when Laslow was a baby, I showed

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of him because I realized after having Sid that,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, when you first have a kid, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't look any I mean, I don't even he was

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<v Speaker 2>just like ahead, he didn't really like Laslow at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So I remember I had fun like the first two

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<v Speaker 2>days or first maybe a few months of like having

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<v Speaker 2>Laslow because I was like, oh, I can like finally

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<v Speaker 2>post him because it doesn't matter. He's not leaving the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody can like identify him, and he's about to morph

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<v Speaker 2>out of this baby face into like his real face. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like paranoid. I think I grew up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighties where like I felt like everybody was

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<v Speaker 2>like gonna like scamp, kidnap you, rape you, murder you,

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<v Speaker 2>like drive you across the border to Mexico and like

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<v Speaker 2>sell you into slavery. Like I just can't advertise my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel so scared, especially in New York city

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<v Speaker 2>where I will go to the park and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>those are you know Melissa wood was kids or that's

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<v Speaker 2>even Tren's daughter. You know, it's like people might know,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I know what their kids look like. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't know what their kids looked like to that extent

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<v Speaker 2>if I wasn't following them on Instagram. And that really

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<v Speaker 2>scares me because you know, people will come up to

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<v Speaker 2>me sometimes be like Jenny, and I assume that I

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<v Speaker 2>know them. They always assume I know them. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when it's just like, oh somebody who.

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<v Speaker 3>Photes you very.

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<v Speaker 2>Me when it's just me, but it's just gets so scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's why maybe if I lived in La

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if I would be a different parent, because

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<v Speaker 2>then it's like your kids at school, they're in your car,

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<v Speaker 2>they're in your house.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about that a ton.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was growing up, my dad would never

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<v Speaker 1>allow us to be photographed ever, ever, ever, And he

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<v Speaker 1>also was afraid of kidnapping, and and so it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>but social media is this weird thing. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really show them on like the you know, my public

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram account. But I've been like trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>like what what what? What is the right thing? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean not that I'm like a public figure anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have like a podcast with ten episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was just like, but still, anyone can didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a cute kid, like it's not even about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And my kids are super fucking cute, three redheads, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, you know what else? I just remembered another connection.

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<v Speaker 1>There was this guy that I dated and he was

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<v Speaker 1>really good friends with Jason when he lived in La

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, and he owned his family owned a

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<v Speaker 1>wine company.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait ni yes, wait stop when did you date John Honig?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably a sophomore in No, no, no, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like a freshman in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I got married at that vineyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Well whatever happened to him? Like he used to live

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<v Speaker 1>in my neighborhood. I ran in him and I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen him since.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where he lives now.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember them.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so funny.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure where he is like currently, No, like

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<v Speaker 6>in life, I just remembered that.

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<v Speaker 2>How funny. That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I know your husband like a little Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so funny. And then when I moved into

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<v Speaker 1>my house in my neighborhood in LA he randomly was

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<v Speaker 1>like outwalking his dog with his girlfriend or something, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god. I hadn't seen him

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<v Speaker 1>since I was eighteen years old. So then I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I moved in here probably when I

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<v Speaker 1>was thirty two.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wait, what is happening. This is so crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So wild though, fun money. You have to tell some

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<v Speaker 4>out of that too.

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<v Speaker 3>I will, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>I never see her except if I'm like with Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Hendler or Ashley Cassen or something like that, because they

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<v Speaker 1>live on the other side of town. I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>west side there on the east side, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basically they could live in New York City.

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<v Speaker 4>It's two different cliqus, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, actually I.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Hancock Park for my for the evacuation.

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed at Ashley's house because she was already in Pumps.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love it there, Like I want to live there.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you move over there?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Never, but I love the idea. Yeah, it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>far and like, I'm so close to my parents and

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<v Speaker 1>I live five minutes for them, and our whole life

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<v Speaker 1>is over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how I feel about moving uptown. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I could do it right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it. But does any of your family

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<v Speaker 3>live in New York or just you?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Just us?

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<v Speaker 1>And another funny connection is my best friend's little sister

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<v Speaker 1>lives in your old house.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, Hallie Benedict, Yeah, I know. I mean I still

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<v Speaker 2>follow her so I sometimes see the house. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>wild to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that house is so incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss that house. But I did think it was

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<v Speaker 2>haunted when I first said Sid. That's kind of why

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<v Speaker 2>I had to sell it. And it's kind of annoying

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<v Speaker 2>to me that, like Halle hasn't been like killed by

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<v Speaker 2>a ghost, and she seems perfectly happy there.

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<v Speaker 3>She seems like thriving.

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<v Speaker 2>Unsettling to me that, like the ghost seems fine with

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<v Speaker 2>the new family that moved in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess, I guess the guys just didn't like you.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's funny that we have so much overlap.

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<v Speaker 2>Tons of overlap.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I I mean, but do you ever do

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<v Speaker 3>you come to La a lot or not that often?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I was out there a bit this year

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<v Speaker 2>because Jason and I were shooting this show for TBS

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<v Speaker 2>that shoots downtown LA, and then I was doing some

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<v Speaker 2>podcasting out there. But no, I'm not. I'm I don't

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<v Speaker 2>spend as much time out there as I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>would it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever think about moving back or no?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think I could. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what kind of I don't. I was never

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<v Speaker 2>a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>In La, right, I can't see and I cannot imagine

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<v Speaker 1>being a mom in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's so easy.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels so hard.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything comes to me and like I can walk everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so I moved to New York thinking like this

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<v Speaker 2>is like a giant cruise ship where I can like

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<v Speaker 2>work all day and then I can like wander outside

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<v Speaker 2>and I have like a different identity. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's the best of both worlds for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But it feels like very it feels very overwhelming for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I throw everything in my car and there you

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<v Speaker 1>have to like walk over and you're like how do.

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<v Speaker 3>You get your groceries home? Like so many things.

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<v Speaker 2>All just like comes here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so, that is so great, But I fear I

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<v Speaker 3>would never leave my apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's so easy to not leave too. Yeah, you're cleaning,

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<v Speaker 2>you just give it to your dormant and then it

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<v Speaker 2>just comes back to your dormant.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe you've switched my mind. Maybe maybe I should

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<v Speaker 3>make the move.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you want to have something from right age,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you waltz outside your apartment, You walk like one

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<v Speaker 2>block and you're there. You don't need a car, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so and you get in so many you log so

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<v Speaker 2>many miles a day during is.

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<v Speaker 3>So much walking, so much walking right, Walking is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my thing when I feel anxious, I like have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of anxiety, and when I feel really anxious,

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<v Speaker 1>I just go outside and walk and that really helps me,

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<v Speaker 1>except for right now, because no one can go outside.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't leave the house right now, right no,

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't open a window, you know, walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's so wild. Parenting in this season

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<v Speaker 1>of life, whatever we're in, is wild.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Yes, do your kids have social media?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Do yours? No?

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<v Speaker 3>How old are your kids?

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<v Speaker 2>Ten? And eight?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So I have seven, nine and thirteen and none of

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<v Speaker 1>them have it? Oh maybe, but I mean my seven

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<v Speaker 1>year old that would be mentally ill if I gave

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<v Speaker 1>him social media, but my thirteen year old doesn't have it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's always like, I'm the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that one.

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<v Speaker 4>I want it to be the only one without a phone.

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<v Speaker 4>I want him to have like nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally right now, his i'vead is at my nanny's house

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not coming back until February. Asshole.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I did he get in trouble or you

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<v Speaker 3>just were like, well, he got.

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<v Speaker 2>In trouble, but like not really, like it wasn't severe trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>but I needed something to take away and it was

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<v Speaker 2>that was like the only thing. That's the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>he cares about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same, that's like my young my youngest, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that has any currency. And we don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have it during the week. It's literally just on the weekend. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And if I like that's the only thing he cares about,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't care about anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And it's like they're like addicts for it. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean like they fiend for the iPad.

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<v Speaker 1>And somebody told me that it's basically like smoking, and

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<v Speaker 1>it you know, was for like our parents' generation, like

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<v Speaker 1>they thought it relaxed you, they thought it was safe.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's like Oh no, it's like it's so dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we've given them, you know, and then especially

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<v Speaker 1>with COVID and everything, they had so much time on

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<v Speaker 1>like an iPad or a device you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well during COVID, I was like, how could I like

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<v Speaker 2>strap this to your head? Yeah, just you like go

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<v Speaker 2>to it to your.

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<v Speaker 1>Space something that I when I was like learning about you,

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<v Speaker 1>something that I or doing a little bit of research

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<v Speaker 1>something about you that I really.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the idea of you researching me. That's like

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<v Speaker 4>so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Searching, but like I just you know, like I follow

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<v Speaker 1>you as a fan, but like I was just interested

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<v Speaker 1>in like learning more about things that like every single

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<v Speaker 1>person that's been on this podcast again only ten episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been someone that like is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend of mine or that I know or that I

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<v Speaker 3>relate to on some level.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that I really related to

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<v Speaker 1>with you is like the body image stuff and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that like wouldn't ever because like when I look at you,

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<v Speaker 1>I see like perfection, you know, just like so you know, like, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny. My son's literally this morning are like

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<v Speaker 2>grabbing my arms and they're like, you have like an

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<v Speaker 2>old lady arm now like your your skin is hanging

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<v Speaker 2>below your your bone. I'm just like and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>dad looks younger than you. Like, this is horrible shit

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<v Speaker 2>when you addrust me, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I breast had all three of my kids and

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<v Speaker 1>I was showering with my youngest and.

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<v Speaker 3>He was little, and he was like, what's wrong with

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<v Speaker 3>your boobs? And I was like, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like why are they so long?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like because of you? There long? Because

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<v Speaker 3>of you. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But you go like I have no game anymore. I mean, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>It's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering like how because you are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you are out there. I'm not like you know you

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<v Speaker 1>like are married to an actor. You are an actress,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a show, you do all these things, you

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<v Speaker 1>write books, all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Like how does that affect you in your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Body image wise?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you still do you ever like do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever like go back into like a place where it

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of like very much in your front of

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<v Speaker 1>your mind or is it just like like oh I

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<v Speaker 1>think that like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, when I was younger, I was intorect sick, and

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up like going you know, like putting myself

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<v Speaker 2>into this like treatment program in Arizona, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>like ran away to Europe for like, you know, half

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<v Speaker 2>a year and was like hiding from the world to

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<v Speaker 2>try to like get over it. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, you know, I wouldn't say that you ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked with this woman at Lese Rush, who's actually

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<v Speaker 2>in in La and she's like nutritionist. She's amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's amazing. She's just like really was teaching me sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like just cog behavioral type of stuff with with

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<v Speaker 2>eating because I definitely feel like I grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>a family, like a very vain family. My parents like

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<v Speaker 2>there's literally a there's literally a newspaper article and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a baby and my mom has my legs and arms

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<v Speaker 2>up and it's like we're putting Jenny I'm a low

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<v Speaker 2>protein diet and we're doing baby callisthetics with her.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you wonder why I had a fucking eating disorder?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, And then like I'm you know, acting,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like the time of like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Leslie Bib and Popular and Felicity, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like you needed to be so like dangerously thin and

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<v Speaker 2>like I I just felt like I had to do

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<v Speaker 2>that to you know, like stay like in the game

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<v Speaker 2>and be competitive. But then I ended up, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>working with a lease and getting to a place where

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was no longer restricting, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine now, Like I don't know how I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I had the WheelPower to like

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<v Speaker 2>be hungry all day. I just don't have like now

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I hate.

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<v Speaker 4>I get like.

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<v Speaker 2>Anxiety when I'm on an airplane, like I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna starve. I need to eat my neighbor like I

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<v Speaker 2>I eat like over I over eat on an airplane,

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<v Speaker 2>Like crazy of the anxiety is being trapped there, don'teah.

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<v Speaker 1>I packed crazy amounts of like sandwiches and things. When

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<v Speaker 1>we go on an airplane and my husband will be like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an hour and a half flight, I'm like, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll want a turkey sandwich, Like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I eat through all my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Things I've found need to like me eating a whole

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<v Speaker 2>papaya like sitting out the steeds is disgusting. We brought

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<v Speaker 2>a whole brand Zeno with us to Germany once and

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<v Speaker 2>Jason found it in our hotel room like a day later.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, what the fuck is this doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>But so I feel like I got to a better

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<v Speaker 2>place with eating in my body and like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like figured out like what worked for me. But the

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<v Speaker 2>problem is then I fell into the wellness trap and

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<v Speaker 2>that's like a whole different type of eating disorder where

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<v Speaker 2>I my thyroid went hyper so I looked like skeletal

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<v Speaker 2>after I had my second child and everybody was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what's wrong with you? You're like starving yourself again.

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<v Speaker 2>Found out it was my thyroid. It's like an autoimmune thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So they put me on this diet where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>an AIP diet where I couldn't have like eggs, dairy,

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<v Speaker 2>soy fucking gluten, any rain. And then I got into

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<v Speaker 2>this place like after that where like I balanced my

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<v Speaker 2>thyroid out eating that way, and I knew I can

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<v Speaker 2>like follow a program for a little while until I

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<v Speaker 2>like start binging out of control. But what happened I

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<v Speaker 2>think with that was that like I became like afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of food, Like I started like, oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I can't have if I eat gluten, it's I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>something's gonna happen to me. My thyroid is gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>ply out of control. And so then I was like

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<v Speaker 2>purging again. And this is now like I'm like what

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<v Speaker 2>forty I was like forty forty two years old, like

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<v Speaker 2>making myself throw up because now it's not even about

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<v Speaker 2>like how my physical body.

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<v Speaker 3>Like trying to it's like this, it's like a it's

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<v Speaker 3>like die.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna die if I eat this, And so like

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<v Speaker 2>I had to like really work so hard to get

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<v Speaker 2>myself out of that mind fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like so I was never inarexic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my parents put me on adderall when I

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<v Speaker 1>was twelve, so that like kind of did the anorexia

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And meanwhile, I never had ADHD. I just

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<v Speaker 1>had like a massive anxiety discorner. And I love them.

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<v Speaker 1>They were doing their best, but I'm sure my mom

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<v Speaker 1>also was like, oh, well, now you're thin and prettier,

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<v Speaker 1>so like let's just stay on it. But then I

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<v Speaker 1>became believe I was bleemic off and on throughout you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of high school, all of middle school, college. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was I was never really inarexic. Although I guess

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<v Speaker 1>being on adderall you don't eat ever, so and why.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think now? Like how do you feel now?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Then, so then I had my kids, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine. When after I had my third kid, I

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<v Speaker 1>struggled again. I think I just felt so overwhelmed. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like I was never a binger, like I

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<v Speaker 1>would never eat, you know, seven pizzas. I would just

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<v Speaker 1>randomly eat like one piece of pizza and I would

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<v Speaker 1>just like have like a full like why did I

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<v Speaker 1>do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Why did I eat that? And there were certain things

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<v Speaker 3>that I would feel that was me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Then i'd go nuts. I'm like, yeah, eat in my house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I never did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't like I would just like I would just

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<v Speaker 1>throw up. It wasn't even like I would like binge.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was very odd interesting and I yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it would just be.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always felt this really big pressure to look

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way, and for so long because I was

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<v Speaker 1>on adderall for so long, sort of like that was

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<v Speaker 1>I always like, that was what I mainly that was

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<v Speaker 1>like how I measured feeling good enough about myself was

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<v Speaker 1>by what I looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>And so were you on that you were like not

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<v Speaker 2>eating at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was on adderall, but it was like

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<v Speaker 3>basically I was on whatever it was. I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was on riddle in first, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the adderall didn't even exist. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>think that when you have ADHD and you're on adderall,

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<v Speaker 1>it affects you much differently than when you don't have ADHD.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on adderall, Right, were you so stressed out? Was

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<v Speaker 2>that like all the time?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like a chain smoker. And as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>I went off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my husband we got engaged and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're supposed to be on medicine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I think you are extremely judgmental and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should stay in your lane. Meanwhile, he

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<v Speaker 1>was totally right, and I went off of adderall and

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<v Speaker 1>like never smoked a cigarette again, you know, unless like

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I was wasted and felt like it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just never. It was totally like I just was not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be on it. But I really had never

0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.639
<v Speaker 1>learned kind of like how to eat because from the

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 1>time I was twelve to twenty four, I was on adderall.

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<v Speaker 2>So they do actually like prescribe Vivance, which is sort

0:20:55.480 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 2>of like another stimulant, right, or bolimya for BINGI die, Right,

0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:02.120
<v Speaker 2>that's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Did like curve it in a way.

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:07.320
<v Speaker 1>It did, And but the days that I wouldn't take it,

0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like on the weekends, it was like you know. And

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.880
<v Speaker 1>then and then I when like Manjarro first came out,

0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I was like, sign me up because it quieted the

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.679
<v Speaker 1>noise for me in my brain. But it made me

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like shit. But I didn't even care because I

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 1>was just like, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The voices, Yes, it's because.

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>You why it made you feel like, right, No, I

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.639
<v Speaker 1>like still I go on and off, like I like

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>decide like you know, like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never would go up because I'm also too anxious

0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to go up in dosage, so I just stay on

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the lowest dose and it just like helps me where

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm eating like a normal person instead of

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 1>like obsessing over what I'm going to eat all the time.

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.679
<v Speaker 1>And I yes, and like I cook a lot and

0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I eat, you know, like I'm not eating you know,

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.320
<v Speaker 1>crazy amounts or anything like that. But it was just

0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 1>like that was how for so long, that was like

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the barn matter of like my day was like how

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I what I weighed?

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, like what I looked like.

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>It was literally you were weighing yourself.

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I was like I didn't even care.

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>It would be like that would be how I would like,

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>am I gonna have a good day or a bad day?

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Like am I do I feel fat? Or do I

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 1>feel fit? It was so like and I and I've

0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 1>worked with the therapists now for so long and so

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 1>but it's just so interesting how it just sort of

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:30.399
<v Speaker 1>like you either have that in your brain chemistry.

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.919
<v Speaker 2>Is like or you don't. I don't know if it's ADHD,

0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 2>but I do think it is like some sort of

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.680
<v Speaker 2>like O c D. Like I think it's just interesting

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 2>the people you know, it's so similar to like you know,

0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Jason Sober, and I do feel like it's like it

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 2>is that addict mentality. I say, totally like I can't

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:50.919
<v Speaker 2>like stop eating, you can like stop drinking, but like

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I have to still Like imagine if you still had

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 2>to like work with alcohol in your life and.

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Right right, like you had to like have it to survive,

0:22:57.960 --> 0:22:59.320
<v Speaker 3>but just enough to like.

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so tricky. It's so tricky.

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting because I never.

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's not a conversation that people talk

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.959
<v Speaker 1>about a lot because like it's not really like sexy

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:13.959
<v Speaker 1>to be like, oh yeah, I make myself throw up,

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:18.959
<v Speaker 1>you know. But yeah, it's definitely. But my mom was

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 1>always really really thin and just like pretty, and so

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard, like when you've a parent too, that's.

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, and she never she was so supportive, but

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.479
<v Speaker 1>she was definitely like when I was your age, I

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>was in the best shape of my life, you know,

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like, oh, okay, why not, you know,

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's so But but that was definitely something that

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 1>for me has been and the then also making sure

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I was almost like grateful, not that girls are the

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 1>only ones that have this, but I was grateful that

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I had boys because.

0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh I I was so scared like somehow, and then

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.120
<v Speaker 3>you realize they're listening to everything you say.

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, but I do think, you know, like my

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>therapist Beth Becker, she's in LA she's our couple therapists,

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 2>and she always says, she's like, I don't think the

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.400
<v Speaker 2>issues that you're aware of are the issues you give

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 2>your kids. It's like we don't really realize is wrong

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 2>with us yet that we're like, oh god, wait I

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 2>did that to you?

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Like what's an example?

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I mean just the things that

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I think are totally normal right now that they're going

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>to be like what was wrong with you? Like me

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 2>writing like his like entrance essay into like you know,

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 2>his private school, and I'm like, like, it doesn't it's

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 2>like aas. It's like this is like it's like a

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 2>writing sample for you, but you know, like just I

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know different things or what's a good one recently? Yeah,

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 2>there are just like things I sometimes feel like where

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Sid I let him get away with things and maybe

0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't like he I guess, Jason, this is so bad?

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Should I?

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 4>Can I tell this story with the iPad or the

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 4>thing Jason threw?

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so listen. Jason had this like it was like

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 2>a like a Frogger game, like a you know, Vlenza's

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 2>old school. It looks like an actual video game, but

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah.

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 3>It's like really little.

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sid lost his iPad, just kills me and has

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>lost his iPad and so he's like sitting there on

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the like playing it, and Jason's like, Sid, get ready

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 2>put that down and get ready. So he doesn't listen.

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 2>He grabs it, he puts it on the other counter, Sid,

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>go get ready. He turns around since looking on it again,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Jason takes the frogger thing and he's like Sid and

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 2>he just like throws it and it throws it across

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the wall and it hits a wall and like Sid

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>just looks up and he's like, seriously you Like I

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be mad. My nanny told me the story first,

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 2>so I was like prepared when said like came home

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 2>to tell me, but like I thought, it was like,

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 2>like I wanted to be mad. I did.

0:25:58.400 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 3>What did Jason do?

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 2>He was like, go to your room. We can't discipline them?

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 2>What we can't what do we do? We can't hit them?

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 2>What do we do these days? There's nothing. You can't

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 2>discipline them. So they're not scared of us.

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I know, And literally I couldn't when.

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like are you mad at me? And I

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, honestly, no, it could be like he's gonna

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 2>be like my mom looking totally should have like disciplined

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 2>me when but if he's funny, then I like let him.

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes No, I know, it's hard it's hard.

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And is it just when don't your kids have like

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a hard time going to sleep or is that not still?

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's that's been like the end of me. My youngest.

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 3>It takes hours and hours and hours to put him

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 3>to bed.

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 2>They say that we should start earlier, right, I mean,

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like he's not going to like he's

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>not ready to sleep, and I'm going to be in

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>there longer. But they actually say, I would just read

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a thing about this today that if you start earlier,

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they're actually going to go to sleep earlier.

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I try, but it's also like we get

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 1>home from school, dinner, like the whole thing, and then

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I of.

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Course, yeah, it is anxious. I guess it's like like

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 2>if they go to bed like too late, they're gonna

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>start freaking out like it's already too late. But right,

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 2>anxious kids to bed early. I guess they feel like, oh, well,

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm I shouldn't even be in here yet, and they

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>can kind of like the melatonin in their body sort

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>of takes over.

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe he's like missing the melatonin in his

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>body because we go in there and he will like

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 1>every single thing that's happened throughout the day will then

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>be discussed. Anything that happened at school will be discussed.

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>And then I'll be like, you know, I'm I'm all

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>done talking now, and he'll be like, no, but I'm

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>still talking and I need to talk about it because

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I need to get my feelings out. And I'm just like, oh,

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like I can't.

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I cannot.

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 4>It just is for my mental health.

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's called a constant. I have absolutely no time.

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Last night, I finally put into bed, I sneak out,

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I come in my bed. Two seconds later, he's in

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>my bed. I was like, what's happening? He sleeps with

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>us almost every night? Is this your oldest my youngest?

0:27:58.320 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're lucky.

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 3>My seven year old every night.

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>So like wants me to like wants to be inside

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>my body?

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 5>So do?

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>My kids are all like that, which is like what

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>did I do wrong? Like all the like stuff whatever?

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I felt like from my mom, I just like did

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>times a thousand, you know, Like I'll be at every

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 1>school pickup and I'm like, hey, you.

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Know, like, yeah, was your mom Like that was she there?

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean she was great, but like she I don't

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>think my mom ever dropped me off or pick me

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>up from school ever in my whole life, and every

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 1>day that.

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>I would come home, she'd be getting a massage.

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 4>Stop it because she had a really bad back.

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh my would be giving.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Her a massage every single day when I would get

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.719
<v Speaker 1>home from school. Just during the week, like or like

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>three days a week, she'd be getting a massage when

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I returned home.

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's yeah. She was likea does that

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 2>she's like over correcting, like for like because I feel

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 2>like my mom wasn't really around and so Sam is

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>also that way where she wants to be at every

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:59.959
<v Speaker 2>pickup and drop off. Yeah, I'm like that like super involved.

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which I love.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>But I also then like then it creates like the

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>opposite thing where I'm like, oh, I'm not picking you

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>up today and they're like wait what do you mean?

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, and like life happens and like.

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>And how could you do this to an innocent child?

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then you feel so much.

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Go my mom was around. She was so great. It's

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>just like she was not packing our lunch.

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>It. She just wasn't like she wasn't the mom.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>That you would think, like the typical mom, you know,

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>like there would be no, Like she wasn't like in.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 3>The kitchen when I.

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Left for school, she was still sleeping, and I'd be

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>like goodbye.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Work she did, she well, I mean she did a

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of charity work, and she was like on one

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>of Clinton's cabinets. And she definitely like is like a

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>very like bright, incredible smart woman.

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't like.

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>She didn't really like she was just also just like

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>love you, Like I'm not a morning person. And I'd

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>be like okay, you know, and like my dad would

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>take up to errands.

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 6>They're allowed to be they like totally weird, totally, and

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 6>then we would have dinner every night together.

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>She was always available, like I could always get her

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>if I needed her, But it wasn't like she wasn't

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like here comes my mom.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 3>One time she packed us up from school.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean I went to Buckley and they had like

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>this armed like an arm that comes down whatever that

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>is called, like for breaking, and she just drove through

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it in her black Jaguar. Yeah it was the one

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>time she picked me up from school. Yeah, no, she

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>just drove through it.

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, nos, to stop.

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 2>It was purpose.

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was just like I don't even know if

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>it was I don't even know what.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>She just drove through, yeah, last Jaguar and I was like,

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.479
<v Speaker 1>oh god, yeah it was crazy.

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 5>That is so funny, and it's so funny now because

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 5>when I think about what kind of mom I want

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 5>to be, you know, there's so much of her that

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 5>I take with me, that I that I do, that

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 5>I love, and then there's so much that I'm just like,

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 5>it's amazing that I function like as a normal even

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 5>like standing like how am I?

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 3>How am I like not a complete and total just

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 3>fuck up?

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I think about that

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 2>all the time. I'm like, how am I even like

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>still married? Like how do I have a normal, like

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>functioning relationship?

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Does he travel for work or is he mostly in

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 3>New York?

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Also, Jason, he's been away a lot this year in Canada,

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 2>but he I mean when he is around, he's like

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 2>very around, very involved. And when he's not, that's when

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I get like very resentful because I'm like, wait, what,

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't marry a working actor. You're a guy who's

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>already been missed, Like do you find it sometimes.

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Easier though, when like he's not around, just because then

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just like you and you're running things the way

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to run them in your home times.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, Like when he's gone, I'm like on it,

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>it's everything's great. But when he comes home, then I'm

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>right then and.

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>You're like, wait, I've been Yeah, like like when you

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>wake up in the.

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Middle of the night and like remember something from like

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>ten years ago, and you're like, wait a minute, the

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>fuck was that about? That's what happens when he comes home.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 2>So it takes a while. Re Entry is very hard.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 3>How did you guys meet?

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 2>We did a movie together. We did this movie, My

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>best Friend's Girl, this Kate Hudson movie, and we were

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>we were like married nine months later. It was very

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 2>fast fast. We really didn't know each other when we

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>got weird, which again is like how did it work out?

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know?

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Just And how long have you guys been together?

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Seventeen years in April? Oh wow, yeah, well eighteen years.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 2>We've been married seventeen years in April.

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Rob and I will be married sixteen years in June.

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't it crazy?

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that crazy?

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Insane?

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I know, I feel like who I feel like first

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>way too young and then that long Yeah, and I

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>also just feel like it feels so quick, and then

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>it also feels like forever.

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's it's insane. My relationship is like almost old

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>enough to vote, Like I know it's not okay.

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys go away alone together? Like, do you guys?

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Do you make that a priority?

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Well, we have to work together, so like we

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>we are often alone together in that capacity, like la,

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>we have to leave the kids in New York.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 4>And then yeah, prior to this year.

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we did go We would go away

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>like once or twice a year, but lately, no, we

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>have not been away together. We're rarely together at all

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>right now, just because he's finishing this movie.

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 4>So I feel like, yeah, do you guys like working together?

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Is that?

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Like it depends on what it is, you know.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I think we've worked together in so many different

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>capacities where it's like either we're both in somebody else's

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>movie and we have no scenes together, Fine, that works fine.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 2>We've been things where like I wrote it and he's

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>acting in it. That's also great because then I'm like

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.479
<v Speaker 2>in control of him and can tell him to, like,

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, do it again. But then like sometimes, like

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 2>we had a show in Serious Together, which was a disaster.

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 2>It was like a radio show where we would just

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 2>literally get into fights like every fucking episode. And yeah,

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like who was listening. Maybe it was

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 2>great radio, I don't know. And then this CBS show

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 2>or this TVs show, it's like we kind of it's

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 2>like we have to dance together because there are a

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 2>lot of different components.

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 3>It's dinner.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you ever saw that in the nineties,

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>where it's like we're watching the movie and then we

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 2>come back and we interview people from the movie. We're

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 2>making food, we're playing games.

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 4>It's just like very so fun.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.800
<v Speaker 2>It's fun, but it's like a lot of moving parts, right,

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>so when on good days like the first Trunch, we

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 2>were definitely ready to fucking kill each other. And I

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 2>feel like the behind the scenes were probably like the

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>best part of that show. But then this last time,

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 2>we kind of figured out our groove and and it

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>was more more seamless. But like I always say, Jason

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 2>is a child actor. He's been working since he was

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>like five years old. He has like his his sad

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>card is like from the eighties. So with Jason, he's

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>just so used to like going in and doing his

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 2>own thing, and so like even yesterday we were on

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Drew Barrymore and he's like storming down the hall like

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>get onto set, and I was like, Jason, can you

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>fucking wait? You're like, oh, pilot, like hello, you know.

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 4>So I feel like remind him every now and then to.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Like he's used to sort of just doing his own thing.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes, completely right.

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>And is that like do you guys feel like there's

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the dinner in a movie show what would be your

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>ultimate ultimate like movie and then guest to have on it?

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh, oh my gosh.

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, or what's the favorite what's the favorite one the evening?

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would want to do like Rocky Horror

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Picture Show and have like Tim Curry on. I would

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 2>like love a Tim Carey moment Jason. Jason wants to

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>do like one of the American Pies, just because he

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 2>has so many funny like behind the scenes.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like an iconic movie.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so like he We've talked about that, but

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's kind of it's kind of whatever

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>they can get the rights to.

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, what has been the favorite What has been your

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>favorite one that you guys have done together.

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 2>We just did the wedding singer and we have so

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>good Lauren and I love Christine. She's so I love

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>her and she's I just yeah, I want to see

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>her like work more and more. She's so funny.

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Great.

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>And then we had Beverly di'angelo.

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 5>On Oh my gosh, she had Chris uh National Lampoon's Cristacation.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that was so good. Oh my gosh. She

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 3>was so amazing in the First Vacation too.

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 4>And she's a trip like she is funny.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 3>That's such a cool show.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's like it's kind of fun. It's always

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 2>like a random Sometimes it's like Michael Voltagio and we'll

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 2>do like a he made this like Rocky Road ice cream,

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 2>like dry ice ice cream, and still like dream about it.

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 2>So there's you know, certain things about it.

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Where do you still do those like crazy lunches for

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:12.760
<v Speaker 3>your kids?

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>No, because the schools they both go to, I'm not

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 2>allowed to send food.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you did like Michelin star lunch boxes.

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I had so much fun with it. I had so

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>much fun with it. But you know it is like

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I now look back and I'm like, God, like I

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>really can't believe all the like tools and like I got,

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 2>so that was amazing.

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean my kids like barely eat a sandwich, So

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm always like do you think that you like, how.

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Did you do that?

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it was just like I wanted them to

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>like be open minded about trying things. I didn't want

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>to feed them like they were kids. I didn't want

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 2>them to like eat off like like menu, and so

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I just kept like throwing random things in there. And

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 2>it started because I got in a fight with like

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 2>the German school. My kids speak German.

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 4>They were at a German school, a German school.

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 2>And like the teacher got mad because I sent like

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>like a boo bun like with like instructions on how

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 2>to reheat it.

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 3>She was like like.

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Get a grip. And so then after like they complained,

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I just started like really needling them. And when I

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>sent like a crab leg and then like I set

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 2>like a little on new that I wanted them to

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 2>eat up.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 4>You just got it. Just like really, it's amazing that

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 4>they would heat it up from there.

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 3>And now are they amazing eaters?

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I mean Laslo right now, it's more like

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:34.280
<v Speaker 2>of a power struggle where he found out about pasta

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 2>with butter, and I keep having to remind him that

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 2>like he's Italian, like he literally has an Italian visa citizenship.

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 2>He can't not eat red sauce, but Sid really eats everything. Sid.

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Sid is like, you know, more adventurous.

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I would say, ah, my kids, like I tried that.

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I and I love cooking, and my oldest we cooked

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>together and he's better at it. But my two younger ones,

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like my youngest will eat like nothing, like he just

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>will eat.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Just carbs, and I'm like, you can't exist.

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>You can't just like live on a bagel.

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>And I saw that, like I saw like I think

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I sometimes like when I'm putting him to bed, Oh

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.399
<v Speaker 1>my god, I'd moved the thing I watched. I read

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the daily mail and like this you can go blind

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>from like not getting enough nutrients, and a kid did.

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm like convinced that that's.

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Gonna be like can you get like shakes going?

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't like there's it's just like he's he like

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've tried smoothies. It depends he'll be like

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>really into something and then he'll like never want to

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>see it again, like it's we like.

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Love it, love it, love it. I go to the market,

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I buy a bunch of them and then he's like,

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 3>oh no, I hate that. And I'm like, wait, wait,

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 3>I eat it. You know what I mean?

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 2>So funny, Oh my god, I get it, though.

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 3>It's too much, it's crazy funny.

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, do you have like a you You

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and your mom are super close too.

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah? Yes, I mean she's like a good friend

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 2>of mine. Yes, she's a good friend.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Is she a good amma?

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't know. I don't know. I'll just

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 2>never forget her saying to like my little niece who

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 2>was like eating a sugar pocket. This was years ago.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 2>She's like, don't eat that sugar or you're gonna get

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 2>a fat ass. And I was like, I can't talk

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 2>to a child that way, like me to put you

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>in a closet. I mean, she can be just intense

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 2>or but she also like kind of stoops to their level.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Like still'll be like, what are you gonna do about

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>a nana? And she's like, oh, you know, like she

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of comes at him. It's funny, like she really

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 2>is a character. I'll just say that she's a character.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 3>That is.

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like sometimes you're like her or do

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you try to sort of like do it differently or

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>are you even aware?

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I think I like her in this sense that like

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 2>i'd like to like, you know, like I don't like

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to follow rules.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 4>I can be like kind of you know, like.

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 2>My kids would definitely say, like Jason's like a rule

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 2>dorc and he's like, we do it this way, and

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, come on, guys, we're going on this side.

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Everybody jump over, you know. And so I'm that's like

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 2>very Peggy. Like I definitely think I have that side

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>of Peggy. And I'm a free spirit like Peggy. But

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 2>as like a mom, I think I'm a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm right yright. I think it's just but

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<v Speaker 2>honestly think it's more generational thing than it is. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think if Peggy were born in this time, she

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<v Speaker 2>might have felt more compelled to like stay married to

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 2>one of her husbands or you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just different things.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 3>But at that point she was just like no, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, She's like, no, free love.

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 3>And I do you is your sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys all sort of have the same relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with your mom or is it to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's different. I My sister lived with my

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<v Speaker 2>mom longer than I did. I like moved to live

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<v Speaker 2>with my dad for high school, so it will like

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 2>eighth grade high school. So Sam and my mom are

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more enmeshed, I would say, But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Like I think that we both sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like see my mom the same way, right, we just

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, have a different reaction into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the way that like my mom parented

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<v Speaker 1>versus like the way that it would be now. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because I think my mom's also like aware

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Like she'll be like, oh God, like I

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 1>she will be like, wait.

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<v Speaker 6>You do that.

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:13.760
<v Speaker 3>She'll be like you do so much?

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like no, I just like I do like

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the things that like I have to do that I

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>have to do.

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Like she'll be like, it's just so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, that's like that's that's that's that's what

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yes, but yeah, totally.

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wow, I'm always like what.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt at Petty, Like she'll be like, I can't believe

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>she said this and I'm more like, wait, say it again,

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.280
<v Speaker 2>let me film me. You say, that's the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so fun. I feel like we have like

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<v Speaker 3>very we have like similar, similar, similar lives.

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes, like I think we processed from the same way.

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we turn to be like really funny, really vulnerable

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and then like.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Then I'll just be like a total bitch one day.

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but I definitely I do. I think I struggle

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 2>with the the same anxiety just because I didn't feel

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 2>like that like scene or like taking care of it

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 2>felt like I had to like really like be aware

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 2>of everything.

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Like hyper vigilant.

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I know I had so many people watching,

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and yet I still didn't feel like I mean, we

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 1>had like Nanny's and so many people and then my

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>mom and then my dad, and they were both like

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>so loving, but I never felt like they really like I.

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Don't know, I just was like, hello, what's happening?

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 2>You know you did like see I've seen by them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, that's I think the part.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think like, like you'll go back into

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like I'll go to their house they

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>live around the corner, and I like my husband be

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>like you literally revert back to a fourteen year old

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 1>when you're in that home and I'm like, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I do you know, so I've had to like work

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.439
<v Speaker 1>on that too. Yeah, my dad and I'll get into

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like fights, and like my kids are like what.

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Are you doing?

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Why are you yelling at yelling at you? I'm just

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, like you know what I mean, like, gosh,

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that's so interesting.

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's like at my house is like it

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<v Speaker 1>could be like a sociological experiment.

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 2>This is so funny. Did you read his books? The

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 2>children's books?

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:13.479
<v Speaker 3>They do?

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>My kids, like my youngest just like brings it in

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and is like my papa wrote this book, doesn't read it,

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care. My older one read it, like you know,

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and then my younger one, my middle one definitely read it.

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>But then also it was like can I get a

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 1>poster of Papa for my room? And then it's just

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>like his way of like being like, yeah, it's just

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.760
<v Speaker 1>like they favorite Grandpa.

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 2>That's funny. That's so funny.

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't actually framed and my rob came home and

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>he was like, what what is that?

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, jewels wanted it. And now it's

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 3>like a framed picture of the Fonds in his bedroom.

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 4>That's hysterical.

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 3>It's really fun.

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, thank you so much for doing this.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 4>You're the best, of course, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is so fun.

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to hear you and your mom. I'm

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna definitely tuning in.

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well she'll be back. I hope she'll be

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 3>back next week. That's my hope.

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm so grateful, like, I can't wait. She's really funny.

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I'm really I'm really so jealous.

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Amber is the best. Our kids went

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 3>to preschool together.

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's how we met.

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but my mom and I are going to do

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 1>a body image a body image talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for that.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be really good. Yeah I love that. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to you later.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that was so much fun. I love

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>talking with Jenny. She's so open and honest and vulnerable

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and funny. And I love talking with her about body

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<v Speaker 1>image because I think it's something that not enough people

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about. And I am so grateful that you guys listened.

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<v Speaker 1>So please follow us at What in the Winkler Pod

0:45:55.920 --> 0:46:00.200
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0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:08.439
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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm