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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Rashaan McDonald. You know I'm motto, never let your age

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Speaker 1: and that's why I'm so excited to get this interview started.

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Speaker 1: My guess it's a very popular reality TV star, Attorney

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Halls. Attorney Halls is ready to discuss her life

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Speaker 1: after ladies who list the reality so she started, but

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Speaker 1: her real life skills as a legal expert or her

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Speaker 1: real superpower as hashtag everybody's favorite closing attorney, as well

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Speaker 1: as new life pursuits. We discussing at all because I

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Speaker 1: hadn't had it on the show in two years, and

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Speaker 1: she was supposed to come back really really quick, but

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Speaker 1: two years later, maybe really really quick to her. We're

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Speaker 1: going to discuss that matter. We're going to trust some

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Speaker 1: marriage family entrepreneurship. Let's talk about the Halls Law firm,

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Speaker 1: which is committed to complete and integrit and servicing their clients.

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Speaker 1: They specialize. This is the Halls Halls Laws might at

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Speaker 1: h Awe S. Tiffany Halls her law firm in real

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Speaker 1: estate closing a home, loan closing, refinanced closing, real estate

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Speaker 1: contract review, and title insurance matters, which if you know,

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Speaker 1: when you buy a house, that's that whoa whoa whoa

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Speaker 1: big old stack of papers they give you the sign.

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Speaker 1: She'll be sharing with us her multi millionaire success secrets

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Speaker 1: and specific tips on how she built her law practice

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Speaker 1: from scratch to multiple seven figures and she did it

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Speaker 1: all on social media as to well, she's been telling

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Speaker 1: us for years how to do this. Now you're gonna

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Speaker 1: come on Money Making Conversations and tell us because she been.

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Speaker 1: If you follow on social media, you know she's telling

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Speaker 1: the truth. Please welco with the Money Making Conversations, Master

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Speaker 1: Life Attorney, Tiffany Halls. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I am good? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Two years? Tiffany? Two years? Two years?

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Speaker 3: Two years? Is doing? Over me? With everything going on.

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Speaker 1: In the interview was a fan fantastic We hit it off,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, because you have I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of yours, you know, because I love it with

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Speaker 1: individuals you know who have these multi lifetime when they multilifestyle.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're married, you're acting, you you're on TV,

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Speaker 1: which is like a multitude of hats. You're an entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: you employ people, you know, your roade Eye, COVID and

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Speaker 1: all those things, and so you not coming back on

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Speaker 1: the show immediately, didn't It's just a tease because I'm

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Speaker 1: such a big fan of yours. How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I am good and thank you so much your show

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Speaker 3: So I am happy to be back and I'm just

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Speaker 1: Yes, well let's get out of the way. How can

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Speaker 1: how can my audience reach out to your contact you

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Speaker 3: Well, definitely, I am on the Internet and all aspects,

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Speaker 3: so I am on all social media platforms. Tiffany Hawes,

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Speaker 3: the Hawes Law Firm website www dot Thehaws Law Firm,

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Speaker 1: So getting contacted you there's always I remember when I

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Speaker 3: I definitely did not have to deal with that. Congratulations

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Speaker 3: not to do with that, because I was the same

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Speaker 1: So let's go back a little bit with the show,

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Speaker 1: you know, ladies who lists? How were you approached to

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Speaker 3: So? I was approached to do the show because they

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Speaker 3: real estate, because I've utilized social media in a way

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Speaker 1: Now now they found you? Now still were you? Was

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Speaker 3: So when they approached me to do the show, because

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Speaker 3: never I've never wanted to like, I've never had a

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Speaker 3: And in me being an attorney and in me focusing

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Speaker 3: When you become that expert on it, then people will

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting because you know, you you

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Speaker 1: know you're successful, let's be true about you know, and

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Speaker 1: that's what You're an attractive person and those equalities, and

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Speaker 1: then you your social media savvy and you're an attorney.

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Speaker 1: Those qualities. Did you did anybody tell you, Oh, no, Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: would the feedback when? Because you have to share this

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Speaker 1: you respect, How did they approach you about being on

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Speaker 1: a reality show. Let's go, let's go do the elephant

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Speaker 1: the room. Reality shows don't look good to everybody.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I did get that more so from my husband,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my husband's very conservative, not on any social media platform,

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Speaker 1: Your very private husband.

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Speaker 3: I want it. Wow, extremely private. I mean for it

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: But like I explained to him and others that may

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, you know he really got that. I saw

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Speaker 1: some episodes, you know, he really got comfortable. He really

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Speaker 1: because everything's produced and and I guess what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: that's not me. As not attorney at Tiffany Halls.

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Speaker 3: I think with reality TV, so this is what I

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Speaker 3: different break it down to us. They can't film something

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking to attorney Tiffany Hall's attorney, Tiffany Halls.

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Speaker 1: This has always been very popular in legal profession, but

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Speaker 3: with their business. So I have to earn that. So

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Speaker 3: I can't just post, you know, random things all the

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Speaker 3: going to be useful for them and their business because

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Speaker 3: they got to work for their follow They need to

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Speaker 3: be following me for a reason and not just just

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Speaker 3: to be following.

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Speaker 1: And that's really true. That's really true because you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm an influencer when it comes to food. Now, I've tried.

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Speaker 1: Now I post something about something else, and when I

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Speaker 1: post my breakfast, you know, thousand two thousand likes I

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Speaker 1: post something else. They can't care less. So you're saying,

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Speaker 1: and I'm hearing this clear and everybody she's is if

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Speaker 1: you're going to have followers, make sure you appeal to

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Speaker 1: the people who follow you and also have a reason

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Speaker 1: for other people to follow you. That's what you're saying. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Attorney Halls, Correct. Yeah, so she's you know this is

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Speaker 1: this is like this is free service she give me

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Speaker 1: right now in regards to social media. Now, when you

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Speaker 1: when you talk about your specific tips that you could

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Speaker 1: about being successful, because you and some terms I consider

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Speaker 1: a multi millionaire, how did you get there?

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Speaker 3: A lot of hard work, focused, being burnt out from

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Speaker 3: number one, figure out what you want to do, whatever

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Speaker 3: that is, give all your energy to it. So I

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Speaker 3: you know, I had bills to pay, I kept my

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Speaker 3: job and then went to law school at night. So

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Speaker 3: I stayed on path to what I wanted to do,

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Speaker 3: went to law school at night, graduated, opened up my business.

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Speaker 3: And when I opened up the business, I was willing

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Speaker 3: to do any and everything legally in order to make

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Speaker 3: my business successful. So if that meant staying up till

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Speaker 3: one o'clock at night, That's what I was going to do.

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Speaker 3: And so when I did open my business, it was

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Speaker 3: isn't easy. The first year, I think I made ten

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Speaker 3: I had to figure out what was going to be

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Speaker 3: my best source of getting my clients and your traditional

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Speaker 3: marketing sources of like going out shaking hands. I was

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Speaker 3: finally found my niche, which was social media, then I

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Speaker 3: focused on that and it became how can I be consistent?

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Speaker 3: How can I get the attention of people? And of

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Speaker 3: course this took years. This wasn't like an overnight success story.

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Speaker 3: It took one client believing in me, and then me

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Speaker 3: believing that this was actually gonna work, and then finding

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Speaker 3: more and more and more, and as the years went on,

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Speaker 3: then of course I was able to build my business.

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Speaker 3: And in building my business, I became a resource for people.

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Speaker 3: I became a trusted, knowledgeable attorney that was able to

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Speaker 3: give good information that would help agents because that's my

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Speaker 3: business source, increase their business and we grow together in

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Speaker 3: this industry.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I have learned a lot today, and I'm a

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Speaker 1: know it all everybody. I'm a know it all. And

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Speaker 1: when you get educated because you do know social media,

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Speaker 1: that's important. And I'm talking to attorney Tiffany Halls, the

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Speaker 1: Hall's Lure Firm. Everybody's committed to complete integrity and servicing

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Speaker 1: their clients. They specialize in real estate, contract review and

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Speaker 1: title insurance matters, home closing, home loan closing, refinance closing,

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Speaker 1: real estate closing. You do it all, but more importantly,

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Speaker 1: how can they reach out to you?

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Speaker 3: They can reach out to me. You can find me

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Speaker 3: on Instagram Tiffany Hawes Underscore Haws Lawyers. That is where

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Speaker 3: I am most active at. That is where I accept

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Speaker 3: you know, the DMS and all of those things. You

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Speaker 3: can also contact my office www. Dot Thehawslawfirm dot com.

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Speaker 3: All the contact information is located on my website and

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Speaker 3: if you see me out speak and you have questions answer.

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Speaker 1: I love it, But first of all, don't let it

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Speaker 1: be two years because I will I will see you

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Speaker 1: in the streets and it won't go good for our relationship.

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Speaker 1: It won't go good for our relationship because you're fantastic.

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Speaker 1: You came on the show, you laid down some tremendous information,

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Speaker 1: and I like to bring you back when you have time,

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Speaker 1: because I think the whole level of education you give

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Speaker 1: it my audience about social media has never been expounded

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Speaker 1: on the show like that. That tremendous education, tremendous knowledge,

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Speaker 1: and we all as entrepreneurs are running around trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to use this potential free service to

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Speaker 1: our advantage because it's global. It really is global when

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Speaker 1: you make a post. And thank your getting attorney Tiffany

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Speaker 1: Hall for coming on Money Making Conversation master Class.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you for having me anytime.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll talk soon. Thank you for coming on my show.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for listening to my

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