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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 7: Quick turn for the Anaican Florian Podcast, Episode three point

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Speaker 7: thirty nine. It is Sunday, March sixth, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 7: It's nine oh five am Pacific, and I feel like

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Speaker 7: it is but I'm back on the East Coast. My

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Speaker 7: guy from the PFL Challenger series battle Bots, was on

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Speaker 7: in the hotel room by the way and in Las

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Speaker 7: Vegas for me you're all over the goddamn joint.

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Speaker 1: Good, I tell you. I'm so sorry to all the

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Speaker 1: all the people out there who are watching television right now.

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Speaker 1: It is great to see you, my friend, have a

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Speaker 1: beautiful day here in North Carolina. We had some great

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Speaker 1: fights and let's go.

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Speaker 7: It's amazing that you ended up in North Carolina. I

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Speaker 7: am filled with envy, all right, So a lot to

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Speaker 7: get to today. We will recap UFC two seventy two,

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Speaker 7: of course, which just expired a few hour hours ago.

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Speaker 7: Ray Long go scheduled and join us in fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 7: so we'll see if he's there on the Screws twelve twenty.

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Speaker 7: And we have predictions with our man Brian Petrie coming

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Speaker 7: up in the main event challenge, actually six of them

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Speaker 7: for UFC Fight Night, Santos versus on Goliath. I may

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Speaker 7: have that backwards, but either way, banging fight card coming

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Speaker 7: up this weekend. But ken Fold that week was just insane,

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Speaker 7: Like I don't know how I feel about my performance,

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Speaker 7: and thankfully we don't have to talk about that today.

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Speaker 7: But like I was on fumes by the time I

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Speaker 7: got to Saturday. I just think there was so much

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Speaker 7: emotion for everybody involved, And obviously these shows are fairly

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Speaker 7: arduous for me to prepare to begin with. But let

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Speaker 7: us talk about the fight. It was Kobe Covington over

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Speaker 7: Jorge Mosfviedal by unanimous decision forty nine, forty six, fifty

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Speaker 7: to forty four and fifty to forty five. And you know,

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Speaker 7: I can't believe he's not on the pound for pound list.

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Speaker 7: I got to think a win like this maybe gives

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Speaker 7: him some consideration. What were your thoughts on Covington handling

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Speaker 7: yet another emotional rivalry grudge match with very very you know,

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Speaker 1: Well you did kill it, my friend, So you know,

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Speaker 1: to go back to your point before, it was awesome,

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Speaker 1: awesome show. So yeah, I can imagine. Listen, there was

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Speaker 1: so much venom between these guys. You know, a lot

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure they had a bunch of interviews and

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Speaker 1: Colby does what Kolby does, and he went out there

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Speaker 1: and executed beautifully. It was the perfect game plan, especially

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Speaker 1: really have to be very careful, and once Colby kind

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Speaker 1: Jorge had his moments, of course, but it was Colby wrestling,

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Speaker 1: grinding out each and every round, making JORGEI work infinitely

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Speaker 1: more than he was, and I think that was the approach.

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Speaker 1: It was a smart approach, and Kobe went out there

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Speaker 7: I have so many things to say about Covington's performance.

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Speaker 7: I have some fairly pointed question I guess on Mosfidal's

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Speaker 7: Jorge Mosfidal. But I just want to get your thoughts

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Speaker 7: on the overall package. The conditioning right, the commitment to

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Speaker 1: Gosh, there's a lot there. You know, similar to Connor McGregor,

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Speaker 1: He's not a guy who's gonna wow you with all

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we will talk about the fence stuff and I'll

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Speaker 7: make a note to get back to it. JC Santana,

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Speaker 7: Covington talked about this third long, I mean this week

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Speaker 7: You played midfield at Boston College and I know you

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Speaker 1: I guess, you know, I kind of had to work

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Speaker 7: Because you hear Daniel Valverdi and saysar Carna or just

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Speaker 7: during fight weeks, right, and he's expending all this energy

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Speaker 7: And yet he is just busting out with energy in training.

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Speaker 7: And I think some of that can be attributed to

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Speaker 7: I think it goes without saying that even though Mosfidal

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that's accurate. You know, obviously he's

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Speaker 1: you and I called maybe his first fight, at least

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Speaker 1: and that's absolutely what Colby is doing in the background,

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Speaker 7: So I'm watching Jorge Mosfidal in this fight, and he

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Speaker 7: but it seemed like there were plenty of times where

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Speaker 1: No, John, I think you nailed it. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: bit more dynamic. But I don't know, John. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's tough in the Uzman fight. I certainly saw it

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Speaker 1: But what I'm seeing, and maybe i'm seeing this incorrectly,

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Speaker 8: But again, he ain't fucking calling out Kamzat Chimayev. Right, No, right, No,

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Speaker 7: And we wish a good early Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 8: Who's where in the UFC Venom fight kit? How are

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, how's it you work yours? Last night?

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Speaker 8: Oh? And I hit the Red Eye and here we are.

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Speaker 9: You know, wow, you could still get that's crazy man.

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Speaker 7: No, yeah, it was a great night, and it's good

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Speaker 9: Tell you, I was in agreement with whoever said I

431
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 9: wanted to bet you'd be Will they shake hands after

432
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 9: the fight? That's what I was more cure. I was

433
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 9: more curious.

434
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, we knew, because we knew in the in the

435
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 7: fighter meetings. They were both so adamant that wow, ever

436
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 7: fucking happened that I was sort of bemoaning the fact

437
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 7: that Rogan only put twenty dollars up, which to him.

438
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Speaker 8: Is penny a little top penny.

439
00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 9: It's below a cup of penny. Yeah, no, man, that's

440
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,239
Speaker 9: that's gotta be a bit of pill to swallow. If

441
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 9: that shit is that serious, you know, so I guess

442
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 9: it is. And uh, just Covington man just even the

443
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 9: willingness to trade hands with him, and he's just he's

444
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 9: very talented. I think that really put an exclamation point

445
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 9: on you know. I think everybody said, what was the

446
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 9: right thing to said? If it wasn't for Rusman, he'd

447
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 9: beat the champion. He's definitely the number one guy. Uh yeah,

448
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 9: I just thought it was Uh. I think we all

449
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 9: pick Covington to win. So, I mean, I wouldn't have

450
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 9: surprised me if if Masvedal did win. But he did

451
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 9: do exactly what I think we thought the path of

452
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 9: victory would be. He was just gonna use his wrestling

453
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 9: to control where the fight was. But his willingness to

454
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 9: exchange hands and outstrike Masvidal was that was a little surprising.

455
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 9: And he ate that punch man, and I'm saying, nine

456
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 9: out of ten guys are on the floor, and he

457
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 9: twisted his head whiplish everything you want from a punch,

458
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 9: and that guy basically just his knee barely hit the

459
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 9: ground and he was up and refocused.

460
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: And he's dangerous man.

461
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 9: He's hard to put away, and he's relentless, and he's

462
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 9: got a great gas tank, and.

463
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: You know, he's just he looked great.

464
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 8: No, I mean, you set it up beautifully.

465
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Speaker 7: And you know, I oftentimes talk about my time covering

466
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 7: Floyd Mayweather that even when he would get off to

467
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 7: slow starts against Sugar, Shane Mosley, even Connor McGregor, like

468
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 7: by and large, yeah, never really had a bad training

469
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 7: camp and never was flat on fight night. Like you

470
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 7: look at what Ousman and Covington have done. The consistency

471
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 7: is just remarkable. We were talking though, Ray about the

472
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 7: welterweight top fifteen and the fact that at least as

473
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Speaker 7: it stands right now, Covington has fought like none of

474
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Speaker 7: these guys, you know, Like he's fought Usman, he's fought Mosfeedal,

475
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 7: but he's fought none of the welterweight top ten. So

476
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 7: I'm putting him on a pedestal. I think he's one

477
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 7: of I looked at the pound for poundless today. I

478
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 7: think Covington's one of the top ten pound pound for

479
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 7: pound fighters in the sport. But there's a million tough

480
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 7: matchups for him at seventy that he.

481
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 8: Hasn't faced, right, but he beats right.

482
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 7: Right, so, but we're talking about the current guys. So

483
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 7: he over Dosanjos, Robbie Lawler, Tyron Woodley, three former UFC champions, Right,

484
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 7: that counts for something, no doubt. I think he's a

485
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 7: Hall of Famer. I was saying on the post fight

486
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Speaker 7: show Keeddy, like, can you imagine if Covington's a Hall

487
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 7: of Famer? Like and he walks to the podium, Like,

488
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 7: what's that going to be?

489
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: Like, I can tell you what it's going to be.

490
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 9: Like, He's going to have his magna is what they

491
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 9: call the trump Yeah, whatever, He's going to get up

492
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 9: there and he's going to do his spiel like he

493
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 9: always does that.

494
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 8: Do you do you find it interesting?

495
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: Right?

496
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 7: And by the way, I got to see my Rob

497
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 7: in Vegas. I wasn't as excited to see me as

498
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 7: I was to see him.

499
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: But that's okay. I actually find that hard to believe.

500
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 8: That's okay. He was busy. I think there was maybe

501
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 8: a woman alongside. I don't know that was If that

502
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 8: was the case, you don't stand a chance. That's that's

503
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 8: the only thing that could ruin him right now. If

504
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 8: you're telling me that, then yeah, he wasn't excited to see.

505
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Speaker 1: Every your scriptonite.

506
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you know what I mean. Well, let's just

507
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: say he might have been happy to see you, but

508
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 3: his cock wasn't.

509
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 10: That.

510
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: That wasn't happening.

511
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, He's like I translation, But don't you

512
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 8: find it interesting?

513
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 10: Ray?

514
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 7: Do you not find it interesting that Colby Covington hasn't

515
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 7: faced Gilbert Burns, Leon Edwards, Vicente, Luke Bala, Muhammed, Stephen Warner,

516
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 7: Boy Thompson, Magne, Sean Brady, Hamza Hima, I.

517
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 8: Have Jeff Neil like.

518
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 7: I just don't think any of those names are a

519
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 7: walkover for Covington. I think he'd be favored against everyone

520
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 7: except she may have, But I don't think any of

521
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 7: those fights are walkovers.

522
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 9: No, I listened to I don't think any fight in

523
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 9: the UFC at a certain level as a walk over.

524
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the beauty of the sport.

525
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 7: But maybe I'm making too much of this, right, Maybe

526
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 7: maybe a little bit too much, because I mean that

527
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 7: he is, like, he's the second best Walter Wait in

528
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 7: the world, and I think we're all in agreement. But

529
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 7: it's like this came across my wake this mo I'm

530
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 7: like Jesus Man, like his wins list is not bad,

531
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 7: it's great. He has three UFC champions on it, but

532
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 7: he hasn't fought anybody who's relevant at one hundred and

533
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 7: seventy pounds right.

534
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 9: Now, right And you'll kind of making the case that

535
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 9: even the guys at one seventy at the time he

536
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 9: fought him, maybe they were on the downslide.

537
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 7: So with even if I wasn't making that case, yeah,

538
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 7: just the case of the I love the poorer fight,

539
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 7: like I think it's intriguing. But Dustin, you know, tweets

540
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 7: maybe fight a welterweight contender, which sort of led me

541
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 7: to the guy that he hasn't bought a lot of

542
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 7: these guys.

543
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: Now.

544
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 8: I understand, you know.

545
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 7: Kenlo talking about just plucking off one att fighter at

546
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 7: a time. Uh, but I don't think Poorier has the

547
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 7: appetite for the fight and all the preamble the goal

548
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 7: goes with fighting Colby. I just don't think Poorier, given

549
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 7: what his bank statement, I don't think he wants to.

550
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: Deal with it.

551
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 8: You knows he might be able.

552
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: To beat him.

553
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a good fight for me anyway.

554
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: You have to watch any other fight, you know what

555
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: I mean?

556
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 9: That's the other thing he's gonna I would think it's

557
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 9: the same thing, maybe worse.

558
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 7: But all right, I know the time is short today,

559
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 7: Well you got a private coming up one pm.

560
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 8: Smer what I got.

561
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: I screwed everything up today. I just stopped bucking people.

562
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 9: I don't even know what I'm doing anymore, that's right.

563
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 9: But uh, the one big surprise to not a bit.

564
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm sure it wasn't a surprise to you guy.

565
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 9: The way that first off, hats off to Bryce Mitchell,

566
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 9: the way he just manhandled Barbosa. I just I really

567
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 9: didn't see that coming. I thought it would be harder

568
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 9: even if we knew what he was going to try

569
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 9: to do. But man, he impressed his ship out of me.

570
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 9: And again Barbosa is getting older, I guess. But Dan,

571
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 9: that was a great performance by by Bryce. And I guess, man,

572
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 9: he's got the power of belief behind him, he's got technique,

573
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 9: he's you know, he doesn't look the part necessarily, But man,

574
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 9: that what a kenny, right, that was crazy, very impressive.

575
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that my.

576
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 9: I mean, Barbosa not even really making an attempt to

577
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 9: get off his back at this stage of the game.

578
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 9: I think is that for me too.

579
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: Definitely made a lot of mistakes. And you know, he's

580
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: been at this a long time and the same thing.

581
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: You know what the blueprint is at on you. You

582
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: know what they're going to try to do, you know

583
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: what your strengths are. And I thought he was he

584
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: was spazzing out a little bit too much. On the feet,

585
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: he was a little nervous. Did it, wasn't patient, wasn't

586
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: methodical out there. It just seemed hectic and chaotic for him.

587
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: And then on the ground there was no real attempt.

588
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you had all these years, all

589
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: these fights to go back mistakes on and you're you're

590
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: the same guy that was that was unfortunately.

591
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 9: I felt bad for him there, yea, yeah, So I'm

592
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 9: I'm with you hundred per on that. And and again

593
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 9: he just I guess he just he just doesn't deal

594
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 9: with forward pressure, man. He just that's his achilles heel.

595
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 3: He doesn't. He's just not comfortable fighting backwoods or fighting

596
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: off his back leg and whatever. I just.

597
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 9: Hats off the Bryce, don mean, because I really thought

598
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 9: that was going to be way, and he made that

599
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 9: shit look easy.

600
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 7: I'd imagine, you know, Bryce trained with al Joe in

601
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 7: Vegas a little bit during this training camp.

602
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 8: Did you know that?

603
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: Well, I know you said it, so I knew.

604
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 8: Oh, I didn't know if you commuted the broadcast like

605
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 8: like who does dominic?

606
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: That's not a surprise at all.

607
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 9: But uh, you know he's been here. He was here

608
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 9: probably about five years ago, six years ago. Yeah, and

609
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 9: definitely was scrappy and tough. But he's really he's really

610
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 9: made a change man. He looked great, really great.

611
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 7: Kenny Bryce Mitchell is six and oer in the UFC

612
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 7: five decision wins. In terms of his ceiling, I mean

613
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 7: when you start to invoke the likes of Max Holloway

614
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 7: and Alexander Volkanowski, it it feels like a lot right now.

615
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 7: But he's only twenty seven. But when you look at

616
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 7: the rankings, it's guys like Igachi Katze and Calvin Cater

617
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 7: potentially that might be in his wake. What are your

618
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 7: thoughts on Mitchell in terms of where he's at now

619
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 7: relative to the future.

620
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with his performance. You know, he

621
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: was facing a guy in Barbosa who obviously very physically

622
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: gifted these lightning fast and he found a way to

623
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: be very effective. He's tough as nails. I see an

624
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: improvement in how he sets up his takedowns. He does

625
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: not necessarily come from this crazy wrestling background, yet his

626
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: timing on his takedowns I thought were phenomenal. His head positioning,

627
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: his control, he made it a lot easier. And he

628
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: just beat up Barbosa. I mean he just he just

629
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: clowned him, and every moment that he had he was

630
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: taking advantage of all the mistakes. For the most part.

631
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: The only thing if I'm gonna, you know, criticize something

632
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: is I don't know, maybe I would like to see

633
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: more setups to submissions, but his position was doing all

634
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: the work for him anyway. It was his position that

635
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: was allowing him to pound him out. So I was

636
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: I was really impressed. This as a kid who can

637
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: go very far in that division. Again, in a division

638
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: that has been one of the toughest in the UFC

639
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: over the last few years. So just a wealth of

640
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: talent there. So Bryce is well on his way, man.

641
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: He was very focused. Continues to improve and uh yeah, nice,

642
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you.

643
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I a one hundred percent agree.

644
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 9: I mean, timing and awareness to both of those on

645
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 9: the takedowns because man, he just made that look easy.

646
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 9: Because you know, Kenny, it's like if I throw a

647
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 9: jab at you, like, some people are going to pick

648
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 9: that up the millisecond at starts. Some people are going

649
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 9: to pick it up halfway in. Some people never pick

650
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 9: it up and they get just this guy when he

651
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 9: when he went just hands only and he threw that cross,

652
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 9: and he just.

653
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: Made that look easy.

654
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 9: Man, he was he slipped that cross. So timing awareness

655
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 9: was impeccable last night for that kid.

656
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: I don't think he could do anything wrong.

657
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 9: He was just one of those nights where you know

658
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 9: you're just in the zone and everything you do goes right.

659
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 9: But man, he's game, or he shows up, he's not

660
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 9: going Yeah. At this point, I think it's safe to

661
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 9: say he's never going away easy. At this point, you're

662
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 9: gonna have to really put it on him. And I

663
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 9: think that now that that was for me, that was

664
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 9: a great fight to see for him. So I'm sold

665
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 9: on Bryce Mitchell for sure.

666
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 7: I really would like to see you align with him, Kenny,

667
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 7: because I think there are spiritual components to him. I

668
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 7: just think there's some mental alignment between you two. And

669
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 7: obviously you know how I feel about your ability to

670
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 7: not just have a three or four stripes on your

671
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 7: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt, but to put people the

672
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 7: fuck away, you know, like six and zero in the

673
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 7: UFC five decision wins.

674
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 8: You know, got to start putting some people away. Though, nasty,

675
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 8: but I love you.

676
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 7: I don't think Cater and Emitt are gonna want to

677
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 7: fight down in the ranking necessarily, but I did right here.

678
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 7: I do think a main event makes sense for Bryce

679
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 7: Mitchell next. Potentially we'll see if I think his style

680
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 7: for five rounds would be good as well. All right,

681
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 7: right before we let you go, we got about four

682
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 7: minutes comin event Hafel do Sanjos over Hanato Moykano, and

683
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 7: I'd love to, you know, celebrate dos Anjos and I

684
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 7: think he's a Hall of Famer, and we will. But

685
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 7: obviously much is made of Moikano in defeat, all the

686
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 7: heart that he exuded and and the fact that he

687
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 7: was able to survive those twenty five minutes.

688
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the what's the question?

689
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 8: What are your thoughts?

690
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 7: It's amazing to me, how you know, my analyst, right,

691
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 7: Bisping always wants to know how I'm gonna tee him up,

692
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 7: and oftentimes I tee you guys up open endedly, so

693
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 7: you can take it wherever the fuck you want. But

694
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 7: if you'd like a hard hitting journalistic question, then I

695
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 7: can do that too.

696
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: Well.

697
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 9: I'm assuming you're talking about should it have been stopped?

698
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 9: Did you want that aspect of it?

699
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 7: I didn't necessarily want to lead. What's the term like

700
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 7: lead a fucking horse to water? Whatever it is, you know,

701
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 7: but no, I guess I'm just curious over all your

702
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 7: thoughts on on how Mark Goddard handled that situation and

703
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 7: how the corner and everybody else handled.

704
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: Man, that shit gets really tricky to me.

705
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 9: I'm I'm look, I'm fine if we want to make

706
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 9: that a you know, like an new thing where the

707
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 9: ref can come in and talk to Doc say, look,

708
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 9: I don't think he's gonna win. Why let him take

709
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 9: the damage. I think that'll open up a can of

710
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 9: worms that might not be good. But I'll tell you

711
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 9: one thing I definitely didn't agree with. I think you

712
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 9: guys were saying that he came out and he didn't

713
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 9: want to hurt Mokano. If anything, he didn't want to

714
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 9: get hurt himself. That's different, you know what I mean.

715
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 9: But to think that he didn't want to hurt mccanno.

716
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 9: He took some big shots and he's a complete idiot

717
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 9: because he took shots that he shouldn't have. He could

718
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 9: have gotten out of it, you know what I'm saying.

719
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 9: So it's not he might have said, listen, let me

720
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 9: I made it this far. I definitely won Let me

721
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 9: just go out there see if I could coast. And

722
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 9: you know, my hands feel good, everything feels good. I

723
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 9: get out of here five rounds unscated. That's different, you know.

724
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 9: And he still took some big shots for that effort,

725
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 9: you know, so, and that was the tricky thing. God

726
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 9: it did say. You know, I'll give you thirty seconds

727
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 9: to turn it around. He was game in the fifth round,

728
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 9: so you know, I think the visual maybe was worse

729
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 9: than what was happening.

730
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: But you got to give it up to the guy. Man.

731
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 9: Hear heart of a lion, and he just you know,

732
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 9: he went for it. Even in the fifth round. He

733
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 9: didn't want to acquiesce to anything. So sometimes you got

734
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 9: to save people from themselves.

735
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: I get it.

736
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 9: I'm not sure if that was the case, but look,

737
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 9: anytime it's fighter safety involved.

738
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm all for it, you know what I mean.

739
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 9: So I'm not arguing for it, but I think we're

740
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 9: used to seeing one thing and then we're trying to

741
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 9: change it now.

742
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: I'm good with that too.

743
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 9: As long as the fight is safety is the first

744
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 9: thing that's the concern, I'm all for it. And again,

745
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 9: it wasn't about like the chances of him. You always

746
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 9: have a chance, though we could probably go back to

747
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 9: twenty fights and do the same thing with the guy won,

748
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. So I think that's where

749
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 9: it gets tricky. But I didn't think he had a

750
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 9: chance of winning that fight. And you know why, see

751
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 9: the guy go through that damage would have been more

752
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 9: psychological psychological damage if they stopped it for that reason,

753
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 9: because they thought the guy was just he sucks and

754
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 9: he's not gonna win, and at this point he's just

755
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 9: you know, I don't know, that could have an effect

756
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 9: on him too. The guy wants to go out on

757
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 9: his shield, you know. I'm sure he's gonna be all

758
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 9: right at the end of the day. But I'm for

759
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 9: fighter safety.

760
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

761
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 9: It was a little a little weird, but the fact

762
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 9: that he came back like that in the fifth round. Yeah,

763
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 9: there's two fights that come to mind. One was a

764
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 9: kid from Colorado and that just got the shit beat

765
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 9: out of him. That was his only fight. I can't

766
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 9: think of the guy's name. And we just saw a

767
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 9: fight with Sean O'Malley and the other kid from Boston, Chris.

768
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 9: You know, all right, the guy came in, he saved

769
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 9: the day. Let's get out of here. Let him fight

770
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 9: another day, you know what I mean. These guys are

771
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 9: coming in on short notice too, So yeah, I don't

772
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 9: think there's any honor Lowston stopping the fight early.

773
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get Kenny's thoughts on the other side because

774
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 7: I know you got to go.

775
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 8: But we appreciate.

776
00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: No, we're good. We're good.

777
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 8: Oh you're okay, So Kenny, Yeah, a ton to unpack there.

778
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, tough one, you know, it is, it is.

779
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, I was unsure about it as well as

780
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: I was watching. I was like, this is not changing here,

781
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: you know. And again, after you've been concussed and you've

782
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: been hit with a big shot like that, every shot

783
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: matters after that, right, So anyways, but I think, and

784
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong. I do think

785
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: Mark Goddard made the right call here actually because of

786
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the way it went down in that fifth round. Uh

787
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: moi Kano continued to fight hard. He gave him that

788
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: thirty seconds like, hey, if RDA goes in there and

789
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: starts to smash him up, I'm gonna stop this fight immediately.

790
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: There was one point in the like early in the

791
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: fifth round, where he started getting a little close, but

792
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: he backed up, Moykana started responding, started landing a lot

793
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: of shots, and if I'm Maridia, I'm surprised that he

794
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: didn't go forward to just try to like put the

795
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: pressure arm, start pounding him out and just like like over.

796
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, again, a huge credit to moy Kano. I

797
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: think he learned a lot about himself. Now, this is

798
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: the trade off. You went further. You prove to yourself

799
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: what kind of balls you have? All that stuff? What

800
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: how is that going to affect him long term? I

801
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: don't know. Did that take a few years off of

802
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: his fighting career? Who knows, I don't know. Nobody knows.

803
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: But he did take some damage there, So a huge

804
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: moral victory. But from the way things were heading, it

805
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: didn't seem like anything was changing, but he fought hard

806
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: in that fifth round. Man, he was trying to finish

807
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: RBA wasn't the other way around, without of doubt.

808
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 9: And Kenny brings up a great point too, is that

809
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 9: once you can cuss that second impact syndrome.

810
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 3: I think they call it, is way worse.

811
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 9: So look, man, as I'm getting old on my wolf

812
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 9: for everybody being as healthy as they could be to live.

813
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: A long life.

814
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 9: So I've had so off to god it for even

815
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 9: maybe even you know, making the first attempt to say,

816
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 9: we got to start getting proactive on saving these guys.

817
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 9: So yeah, then it's a it's a good deal because

818
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 9: you know, you got to remember, I go way back

819
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 9: in the sport where you know things definitely changed, and

820
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 9: you know back in the day, may you get knocked

821
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 9: knocked out in the boxing ring, right just in the

822
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 9: day of training, you were.

823
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: Back in there the next day. That's that was their

824
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: way of testing you.

825
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 9: So we have to I think people don't get even

826
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 9: with worldly stuff like when you're from a certain era. Man,

827
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 9: you got to give guys a chance to adjust to

828
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 9: what's going on, the new stuff that's coming on, because

829
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 9: it's really not fair that you grow up one way

830
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden, on a dime, you're

831
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 9: just changing everything, you know. But education awareness is always important.

832
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm sure that's a fight. Like if

833
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 9: I look at and we keep talking about, I'll be

834
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 9: more on board with God than the other way around,

835
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. Because like again my initial

836
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 9: thing is you got to let a guy go out

837
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 9: on his shield. And I don't know if that was

838
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 9: as bad as that that like when that kid was

839
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 9: getting beat up by O'Malley, Uh, you know, I'm not

840
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 9: sure about that. And there was another fight where the

841
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 9: guy was just he came in lastly just outclassed and

842
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 9: guy torture. I gotta go back and find out what

843
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 9: fight that was. But those are fights where you could

844
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 9: look at from the first round and go, nothing's changing,

845
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, So you got to really

846
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 9: be careful. Mokano has gotten guys out of there, so

847
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 9: that's the other problem. His corner knows that he could

848
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 9: change the fight around with a couple of punches, so

849
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 9: they want to offer him that opportunity. But you know,

850
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 9: in doing so, do you kill the guy? I mean,

851
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 9: it's this name is brutal. I mean, well, you know,

852
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 9: we're talking about things that there's nothing in this sport

853
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 9: that's good for anything. Longevity was nothing to yeah, right,

854
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 9: you know, like you know, frying your internal organs to

855
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 9: make one fifty five.

856
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: That's not helping you in the future. You keep doing that.

857
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 9: Somebody told me that's a clear way of diabetes in

858
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 9: the future. You know what I mean, it's this there's

859
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 9: nothing good.

860
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 7: So well, And I am very close with Pahompa, as

861
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 7: you guys know, Moi Kano's head coach and he's as

862
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 7: the guys there's in the sport. I don't think he

863
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 7: thought for a second about after everything that Hanato went

864
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 7: through and how good his cut and recovery was, and

865
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 7: he didn't go home and eat cheeseburgers and drink alcohol yet,

866
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 7: like he was ready to go, even though they didn't

867
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 7: love the five round component, right, Like that was the

868
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 7: only thing Pohoopo was concerned with was that it was twenty.

869
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 8: Five minutes and that it probably should not have been.

870
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 9: And that's a great point too. If that's a three

871
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 9: round fight, it's a it's a good fight. You know,

872
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 9: he got beat up a little bit. He's out of there,

873
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 9: you know that that Why would you do that to

874
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 9: the guy? That's another great point. The guy's coming in

875
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 9: at last minute just saved the fight three rounds. You're

876
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 9: risking a lot out of a guy that just fought.

877
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 7: Man, you had to leave, are you are you still good?

878
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 8: Tell me when you have to go.

879
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 3: I got five minutes, all right?

880
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 8: Five minutes all right? So yes, and just putting a

881
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 8: bow on that.

882
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 7: I thought it was a fucking masterclass from Mark Goddard, right,

883
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 7: like the way he handled the ringside physician right, because

884
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 7: the thing is, moy Connoll passed both of the vision

885
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 7: tests and even the second one, like you could see

886
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 7: he could see out of the eye. So the doctor

887
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 7: wasn't going to intervene, the corner wasn't going to intervene,

888
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 7: and I just thought Goddard handled the situation beautifully. And thankfully,

889
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 7: Kobe Covington doesn't want Goddard refing his fights, so we

890
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 7: got Mark Goddard in the Komain event and it all

891
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 7: worked out real quickly.

892
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 8: On Dosanjos Ray.

893
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 7: You know, it's tricky with the Hall of Fame, right,

894
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 7: There's guys like Jim Miller that are going to get

895
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 7: in based on longevity, but how is half al Dosanjos

896
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 7: not a Hall of Famer? Right, twenty UFC wins hop

897
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 7: ten in UFC wins all time he's won the belt

898
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 7: that he defended.

899
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 8: I believe he did, Like I don't know.

900
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 7: I mean, it should be an afterthought that he's in

901
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame. But if you think about one

902
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 7: guy going into the modern era for the next ten

903
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 7: years with Daniel Cormier and all the high profile guys,

904
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 7: you know, Kabi barely retired, he's already in. Like, it's

905
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 7: hard to think of a time in the next five, seven,

906
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 7: eight years where they build a Hall of Fame class

907
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 7: around half al Dosanos.

908
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 8: But for me, Ray Kenny, he's a Hall of Fame.

909
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: No, he's definitely a Hall of Famer.

910
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 9: But like again, when you start mentioning DC, he's not

911
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 9: as much as a Hall of Fame or as DC is,

912
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. So they'd have to do

913
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 9: like baseball, where you get maybe a couple of guys

914
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 9: every year and throw him in there. That's what I think,

915
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 9: that's what he needs because if you go individually, I

916
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 9: don't think he's gonna hold up as much as.

917
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 7: Some of the other guys, right and you know, a

918
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 7: prime Ken Flow beats a prime RDA, So how do

919
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 7: you handle that?

920
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 8: Right? As a voter, you need to consider that he

921
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 8: John John.

922
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: Flows in all Hall of fame.

923
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 9: That's exactly right, he doesn't, I mean that for the

924
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 9: people that really count.

925
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: Do you think he is?

926
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the Kent flow that lost. Uh if they

927
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: should just take that out and then just count all

928
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: my wins and then the prime ken flow makes it

929
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: in the hall flame.

930
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 7: It is interesting, though, what Kenny says about the start

931
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 7: of the fifth round, right, because Dosan just is watching

932
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 7: this all play out, and he knows Moyano has not

933
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 7: been in camp. Yes, he had to win a few

934
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 7: weeks ago, but he was chilling, right, He didn't.

935
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 8: All off, but he wasn't training.

936
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 7: And I talk about Kenny's killer instinct a lot on

937
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 7: this show, and he hates when I make the focus him, right,

938
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 7: But you sort of can read into his comments like

939
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 7: Kenny is literally trying to kill that dude because no

940
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 7: A lot is made of this, like RDA fighting philanthropy

941
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 7: that though you know, well, I I don't think I

942
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 7: was the first to suggest it, but it seemed like

943
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 7: he was holding back a little bit i'd have to

944
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 7: listen to the audio. The line with you that he

945
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 7: wasn't exercising philanthropy as much as much as he was

946
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 7: mitigating risks.

947
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: I think that to me, that makes more sense. I

948
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: don't know, you never you know what I mean.

949
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 9: And and you got to remember, going into that fifth round,

950
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 9: he in his head easily could have thought I'm going

951
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 9: to go through this round easy. He didn't anticipate, you know.

952
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 9: You know, God had kind of lit a fire under

953
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 9: his lis. You got thirty seconds to turn this around.

954
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 9: So he's literally instigating the guy to to.

955
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: Pick it up. And I think when you.

956
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 9: Dosanyos and you're looking across you, one is probably telling

957
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 9: you they're gonna stop the fight. They're not gonna let

958
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 9: the guy fight. Then all this so so he could

959
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 9: be like an adrenaline dump a little bit. Okay, I

960
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 9: think the fight is over, then I'm going back in there.

961
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 9: Let me get out of here. And the next thing

962
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 9: you know, the guy's coming forward. He's you with three

963
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 9: punch combinations, and you're like, you gotta be fucking kidding me.

964
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 9: I gotta start fighting again. You know, I don't know,

965
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 9: that's the way I look at it.

966
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 8: Alright, So who do you have coming up at one

967
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 8: pm Eastern?

968
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 9: Oh, I have uh Doug Green, all right, you know

969
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 9: mo Green from Vegas. It's his nephew talking.

970
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 8: You're talking the crochet boss Moores.

971
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Godfather. Yeah, the guy that got his eye

972
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Bulls shut out.

973
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: That my favorite movie.

974
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna it's a Classics.

975
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 8: There was a.

976
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 7: Time last night Marina Hadriguez landed a punch to the

977
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 7: chest of janshan On and I had the moment to say,

978
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 7: how about that? It looked like Hadriguez was trying to

979
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 7: punch a hole in her chest, but uh, the real

980
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 7: estate and seconds expired and I couldn't circle back.

981
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: But that would have been so big for the show.

982
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 7: But hopefully you didn't get too sensitive with my Instagram video.

983
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 7: I do think you have been a little bit ornery

984
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 7: with me of late.

985
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 9: We changed it today though, I came in with a

986
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 9: new way you did and I love you guys.

987
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 8: I love you.

988
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah people. Yeah, actually, like it's time.

989
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 9: I think I think I think Cody already did it

990
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 9: for himself, but I'm not sure.

991
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: We own it now.

992
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: Wait.

993
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 9: First offuit two things that I'm out of here. The

994
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 9: girl fight was crazy. That rod Rigaz fight was very close.

995
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 9: What a what a great matchup that was. And uh,

996
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 9: the girl from the Ukraine. You had to your heart

997
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 9: had to go out to hut No yeah, oh yeah, phenomenal.

998
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 9: Just the sentiment and just you felt the pain. I mean,

999
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 9: it's hard not to start crying when you hear these

1000
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 9: people just begging for their lives and for help and stuff.

1001
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 9: So shout out, hum and great job under shitty circumstances.

1002
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 9: And I think that goes to show you how tough

1003
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 9: those Ukrainians are.

1004
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 7: And then having an opponent, of course whose motherfucking you

1005
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 7: every step of the way. Yea, and everything going on

1006
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 7: in your country got to feel good for Marina Morose.

1007
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 8: All right, all right, man, get on at it.

1008
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 9: Appreciate it again. I want to tell everybody I love

1009
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 9: you guys. There's no man moss. Oh wait, wait before

1010
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 9: I forget too. That terror was very upset. Sarah was upset.

1011
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 9: I use the word fabricated. I was trying to say

1012
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 9: that he didn't live with yous, you know what I mean.

1013
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 9: And then your friends and then you go like that

1014
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 9: I used the wrong word.

1015
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: But he hates them. He'd wanted everybody to know.

1016
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no fabrication in that, right, you know, he's no,

1017
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 8: that's a good example. And you know, I.

1018
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 9: Just thought it was different when you're living with a

1019
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 9: guy and your friends and then something happens that ship

1020
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 9: cuts deep, man, which he was seeing did cut deep.

1021
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: But all right, I'm out of here on that.

1022
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 7: The Renlongo meda every week here on the Anakin Florium podcast,

1023
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 7: and you can still see that Covington and Mansfidal like

1024
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 7: they do like each other a little bit. It's funny

1025
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 7: because you can see why they bonded, right, because they're

1026
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 7: both sort of strong willed, and I don't know, it

1027
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 7: wasn't easy. It was not hard to see why they

1028
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 7: became two piece in a pot. But all right, Longo

1029
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 7: taking some blame the minute men and the comments. Maybe

1030
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 7: that'll fucking touch you all up. As he's banging all

1031
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 7: over the goddamn radio clock today, we treat this like

1032
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 7: a radio show.

1033
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 8: You got to show up on your schedule, all right.

1034
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 7: We have about nine more minutes before we get to

1035
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 7: Brian Petree, So I'm going to rifle through as much

1036
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 7: of this UFC two seventy two stuff as I can

1037
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 7: get to that we have not touched on already. Kevin

1038
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 7: Holland over Alex Cowboy OLIVERA. You know, I think anytime

1039
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 7: you can win a fight in which you lose around

1040
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 7: and it looks like maybe things are slipping away, there's

1041
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 7: even more value in that win. So I thought this

1042
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 7: was a great welterweight debut for Kevin Holland. I believed

1043
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 7: he was bonus as well. He was What are your

1044
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 7: thoughts on the Trailblazer A one hundred and seventy pounds.

1045
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good. I think it was a good

1046
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: fight also in the fact that he had to deal

1047
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: with some adversity, had to battle back, made the proper

1048
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: adjustments after that first round, and did a great job.

1049
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: My feed was all messed up. The ESPN was having

1050
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: problems with their apps, so I actually missed the dang

1051
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: finish while it was happening in round two. But anyways,

1052
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: I was happy to see him get that win. I

1053
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: think he's gonna do some serious damage in the welthweight division.

1054
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: He looked confident, he looked good, so that was good.

1055
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: That was good to see for sure. Kevin Hallen.

1056
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 7: Some of our listeners were chiming in about his durability

1057
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 7: and maybe some concerns because he was touched in this fight.

1058
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 7: So I do think that bears watching, you know, because

1059
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 7: he spars a ton and he has been hit able

1060
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 7: at times. But I do think he's an intriguing injection

1061
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 7: of talent into what I believe is the best weight

1062
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 7: class for him.

1063
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 8: So we'll see.

1064
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: The worst thing he could have done was underestimate someone

1065
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: like Cowboy because he's always dangerous.

1066
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, and especially with his backup against the wall, he's

1067
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 7: been very sharp when he's coming off a losing streak.

1068
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 8: You know.

1069
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 7: This was his second three fight losing streak for Cowboy.

1070
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 7: Oliver in the UFC responded with two wins after the

1071
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 7: first time, and now it's four in a row.

1072
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 8: I think for Cowboy, But I don't know.

1073
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 7: I thought Olivera he beat a good Olivera. He beat

1074
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 7: a motivated performing Alex Olivera. Did you see the main

1075
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 7: card opener Sergei Spivoc over Greg Hardy?

1076
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: I did. I saw the very end of it. Again,

1077
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: had issues with my feet, but yeah.

1078
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 7: So sometimes there are more storylines on the loser than

1079
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 7: the winner, whether it's our DA against Moikano or other fights.

1080
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 8: We could point to.

1081
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 7: But I want to talk about Sergei Spivok at least

1082
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 7: for twenty seconds, right, Like, he worked so hard for

1083
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 7: six months to put himself in position against really any heavyweight.

1084
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 7: Right there were a lot of different matchups, but he's

1085
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 7: bounced around a lot looking for the best training, and

1086
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 7: that speaks volumes to me.

1087
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 8: You know, he went to AKA.

1088
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 7: You know, everybody thinks with Bryce Mitchell it's all country

1089
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 7: training in Arkansas, but you know, he went to Chris

1090
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 7: Brandon's Jim in Texas, went to Vegas with al Joe

1091
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 7: Studn't need everybody knowing about it. But Spivock now aligning

1092
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 7: with Eric Nixic at Extreme Co Tour, just man handling

1093
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 7: a three hundred pounds man like Greg Hardy was three

1094
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 7: hundred and five pounds probably on fight night, but Hardy

1095
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 7: man like, just given the athletic gifts, given some of

1096
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 7: the early knockouts we saw against Austin Lane on Dana

1097
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 7: White's Contender series, and just given the fact that he

1098
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 7: perpetually refers to himself as one of the most savage

1099
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 7: athletes on the planet. He has underachieved in the UFC,

1100
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 7: and maybe that's not fair of me to say, because

1101
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 7: he only turned pro in twenty eighteen and he had

1102
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 7: nothing really resembling a martial arts background. But to me,

1103
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 7: it's like, you got to get ahead of the way cut.

1104
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 7: You can't show up two ninety one two hundred and

1105
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 7: ninety five pounds and expect to have anything left in

1106
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 7: minute twelve. And in this fight, obviously he was disposed

1107
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 7: of in two minutes. I don't know if the UFC's

1108
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 7: going to get rid of him. This was the last

1109
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 7: fight on his contract, But I don't know. I you know,

1110
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 7: he talks good game in terms of loving the sport

1111
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 7: and everything that goes into it, I don't necessarily, you know,

1112
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 7: take him at his every word given recent performances.

1113
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: You can love the sport. Do you love working on

1114
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: all the things that you're terrible at? That that's the question,

1115
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: right And I think you know mentorship goes a long way.

1116
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: I think your ability to be curious and want to

1117
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: work on all of your weaknesses goes a long way.

1118
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: And I also think you know your mental toughness is

1119
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: another thing. It's easy if you're beating the hell out

1120
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: of everybody. It's easy if you're knocking everybody out, if

1121
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: you're the one who's the hammer all the time. It's

1122
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: quite another thing if you have the ability to battle

1123
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: back when you're good, when you're getting hammered, when you

1124
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: are the nail. And I haven't quite seen that from Hardy,

1125
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Like when he starts getting taking a beating, Yeah he

1126
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: doesn't respond that well. He'll try a little bit, but

1127
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 1: he usually kind of, you know, submits mentally. So yeah,

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00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the development as much as I would

1129
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: have liked. And again it speaks to the difficulty of

1130
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: mixed martial arts. It's much more than just the physical.

1131
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: There's the mental, there's the technical, there's the strategic and

1132
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: tactical aspect. So much to them.

1133
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean there have been some fighters, you know,

1134
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 7: Frank Mehir whom I love comes to mind, even Chail Sun,

1135
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 7: and when the tide starts to turn, it seems like

1136
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 7: maybe they're looking for a way out and they recognize

1137
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 7: they they don't believe they're gonna win the fight, and

1138
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 7: there's a little bit of give up there. I say,

1139
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 7: with all due respect and coolby Covington is on the

1140
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 7: total other end of that spectrum, Like as soon as

1141
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 7: he gets cracked, it's like the urgency. It's just it's

1142
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 7: just incredible. Jalen Turner six foot three inches, one hundred

1143
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 7: and fifty five pounds, Like, I guess that means I

1144
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 7: need to weigh like one two one, right instead of

1145
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 7: one fifty one or whatever I weigh. I mean, man,

1146
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 7: I you know, it's like, I just think he's been

1147
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 7: he's been built well by the UFC, and he's just

1148
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 7: so composed and controlling his breathing in there and obviously

1149
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 7: has a lot of physical gifts, maybe more athletic gifts

1150
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 7: than some people initially thought.

1151
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 8: Any thoughts on Jalen Turner in his future at fifty.

1152
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: Five, All you gotta do is get on the inside.

1153
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: Just get on the inside of him. That's all you

1154
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: gotta do, six foot three, Like, are you kidding me?

1155
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: Good luck? Good luck? You know, he did a great

1156
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: job of staying really composed. There was never a point

1157
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: where he was freaking out. Even when he was getting

1158
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: hit with shots. Yeah, he would make the right adjustments.

1159
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: A little concerned sometimes with his head position. He was,

1160
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit too tall at times. We

1161
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: can get hit. But again he's a problem. Man. I

1162
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: think he's got a ton of potential and just his

1163
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: size is a problem. But now when you add the

1164
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: fact that he's composed, he's technical, he loves learning the game,

1165
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: he's intelligent in his approach. Yeah, good luck beating that guy.

1166
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Turner is going to get a top

1167
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 7: fifteen guy, but you got to get him to sign

1168
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 7: on the dotted line to fight a six foot three

1169
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 7: inch lightweight that has a lot of tools in striking

1170
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 7: and grappling. We also congratulate Marina Moreause of course over

1171
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 7: Maria agappava Umar and Ramago Metov looks like a real

1172
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 7: threat at bandam Waight even though.

1173
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 8: He competed a federay.

1174
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: He can.

1175
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 8: Gotta be happy for Tim Elliott.

1176
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 7: You know, James Krause to beat tagir uman Bekov right

1177
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 7: with Kabib in the other corner. Yeah, big ups to

1178
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 7: James Krause and Glory Mma in fitness and Tim Elliott

1179
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 7: cashes as a plus one ninety dog.

1180
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 8: Danny Rube's guy Ludovick.

1181
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 7: Klein stepping up on short notice at As Slovakia to

1182
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 7: beat DeVante Smith and Dustin Jacobe with a big win.

1183
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 8: Who opened the show?

1184
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 7: I did think Kennedy and Zechik who beat Nikolai negu Medianu,

1185
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 7: but I digress, all right. That puts a rap on

1186
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 7: UFC two seventy two. More coming up later this week

1187
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 7: with my twin bro and Balao Muhammad on Remember the show,

1188
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 7: But now it is time for the pronunciation of the week.

1189
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 7: We asked Cody Marra to get a haircut. He has obliged.

1190
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 8: What's up, my man?

1191
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 6: Well, everyone was trying to ask for odds on this

1192
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 6: DK sportsbook. Better haircut me or ray I'm the dog.

1193
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm like a plus four hundred.

1194
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 6: I'm coming in hot.

1195
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 7: Although good and McKeith in the teeth apartment your minus

1196
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 7: a thousand, though I think nice. Yeah, all right, So

1197
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 7: when TJ DeSantis was the producer of this show, I'm

1198
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 7: going to hell, right, I have a better I mentioned

1199
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 7: mob Deep Hell on Earth on the broadcast and and

1200
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 7: nobody seemed to.

1201
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: All right.

1202
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 7: So but one thing about TJ that we could always guarantee,

1203
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 7: and I say this to Cody with all due respect,

1204
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 7: your eyes look very white today, by the way.

1205
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: Good.

1206
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, But TJ would never listen to the file first,

1207
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 7: and I sort of feel like, if you get this

1208
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 7: one right, then it speaks to maybe you cheating.

1209
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 8: But I digrect.

1210
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 7: This fighter, uh, this fighter will be fighting on the

1211
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 7: main card against Carl robertson coming up this weekend. Remember

1212
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 7: him leg kicking the hell out of Eric Anders back

1213
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 7: in the day. Who am I talking about?

1214
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 6: I believe you're talking about Khalil Rowntree.

1215
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 8: All right, let's hear him say it.

1216
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 9: Khalil Rountree, Khalil round Tree.

1217
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: Khalil, not Khalil.

1218
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 6: Yeah. See, because I knew that when he said, oh,

1219
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 6: you'd be cheating, I was like, yeah, it's so it's

1220
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 6: probably Khalil because Khalil, right, I was like, yeah, it's

1221
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 6: probably Khalil, you know, like like little Khalil. He's Calil

1222
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 6: Rountree Junior. Right, so his son is little Khalil.

1223
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, like Lil Wayne. It's not Leil Wayne. Okay.

1224
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 7: But you know, we could have gone in a lot

1225
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 7: of different directions today with magamet Unklaiab. I believe the

1226
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 7: Brazilian Podata actually pronounces his first name Alex Padta.

1227
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 8: You know, we'll see what they go with this weekend.

1228
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 8: But we went with Khalil Roundtree Junior because it ain't Khalil, right, everybody's.

1229
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 7: Dropping a Khalil. They're like, oh, I don't need to

1230
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 7: listen to this audio file. It's fucking Khalili soga.

1231
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 6: At least on least of my cheating.

1232
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: So there you go.

1233
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 7: Hey, thank you brother. Nice sweatshirt too. Hopefully it's the

1234
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 7: right size one more sleep millions dot co. All right,

1235
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 7: we have got six selections to make for UFC Fight Night.

1236
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 7: Is it Uncliah versus Santos, let's see or is it

1237
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 7: Santos versus unclib UFC Fight Night Santos versus unc eliath

1238
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 7: Let's get to the main event challenge.

1239
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge?

1240
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: How do you everything possible to.

1241
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: The main event challenge? To John Hannick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1242
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 8: All right, break neck pace for the UFC.

1243
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 7: We have no choice but to spin it forward as

1244
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 7: we welcome on the host of the m M A

1245
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 7: Takes Podcast, the Great Brian Petrick.

1246
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 8: Kind of missed you last week.

1247
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 4: Bro, Yeah, I missed being on guys, missed.

1248
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 8: On your hair?

1249
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: Back out? What are we doing?

1250
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 8: I thought we're gonna.

1251
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so save the head.

1252
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 11: Wife wanted to back out, stop back out. I took

1253
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 11: a shower after the fights last night and fell asleep,

1254
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 11: and before I hopped in here.

1255
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 1: She's like, you're wearing a hat, right. I was like, yeah,

1256
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: I'll fight.

1257
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 7: Well one day, I'll have to talk to the lovely

1258
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 7: lady about getting you back in the Short Hair Club.

1259
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 7: We update the standings. Petri, you've been on fire. I

1260
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 7: know you didn't get to celebrate another winning week last week.

1261
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 7: But James Krause made picks for Team Annik last week

1262
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 7: and he did well.

1263
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: Won the week.

1264
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 8: He did pick Greg Hardy, but overall.

1265
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 7: Standings minus point eight units for Team Annick, minus four

1266
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 7: point four units for Team Flori and Kenflow. You were

1267
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 7: even on the week three and three with your selections.

1268
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 7: Took a flyer on Jorge Masvidal and our physib Do

1269
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 7: Santos bets obviously go off the board. All right, six

1270
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 7: bets to make today. We will start with a fight

1271
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 7: that we just could not leave on the cutting room floor.

1272
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 7: Bry Alex Padata minus one seventy against Bruno Silva plus

1273
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 7: one fifty. Many of you know Pareta two head to

1274
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 7: head kickboxing wins against Israel. Lot of Sonya wan a

1275
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 7: bonus for stopping Andreas Mikailitis in his UFC debut. Trains

1276
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 7: with Glover to Shaa and Kenny Glover just raves by

1277
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 7: the way about his strength and appetite for grappling knowledge.

1278
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 7: So I'll just throw that in your wheelhouse as well.

1279
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 7: Bruno Silva on the other side three and one of

1280
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 7: the UFC back to back bonuses. I think this fight

1281
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 7: is unbelievable. I'm very glad I don't have to pick

1282
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 7: a winner BP who you I.

1283
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: Mean, listen, MMA, guys, just let this happen. Please. I

1284
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: cannot wait for this fight. I love this fight.

1285
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: Listen.

1286
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 11: There's a lot of unanswered questions because prayer are coming

1287
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 11: over from kickboxing. Bruno Silva has five times amount of

1288
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 11: MMA fight. So the idea that people are thinking is, oh, listen,

1289
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 11: Silva can come in and take him down and submit him.

1290
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 11: He has no submission wins on his record. He's a

1291
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 11: banger that likes to stand up, and you know that's

1292
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 11: what you want to see.

1293
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Speaker 1: This we do.

1294
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 11: Jordan Wright got a little bit of trouble, but he's

1295
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 11: got bricks for hands and this guy cracks. But Pereira, listen,

1296
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 11: I've been watching MMA for since I was fifteen, twenty

1297
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 11: years hardcore fan. I don't think I've seen a better

1298
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 11: left hook than Prayer. That left hook is unbelievable. It's

1299
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 11: kickboxing MMA, whether he's counting, where he's leading, that thing

1300
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 11: is nuts.

1301
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 4: And I don't want to get too excited. I get

1302
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 4: a little.

1303
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 11: Googly eyes for the new guys because Prayer's got that

1304
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 11: juice he brought him in the fight Izzy. I mean,

1305
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 11: let's just be honest. If he gets those wins up,

1306
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 11: he's fighting easy. His debut against Andre Micheletis, he looked great,

1307
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 11: you know, stop the takedowns and looked devastating, went to

1308
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 11: the second round. I love that he left Brazil and

1309
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 11: went to Connecticut. The change with Glover, Glover's taking him

1310
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 11: down and just laying on top of him. That's a

1311
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 11: Ford escort on top of you because.

1312
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 4: Glover's just heavy as shit. I love Prairie Here.

1313
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 11: At first glance, I'm like, man, this seems a little

1314
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 11: off because Brunos Silva has a lot of MMA experience.

1315
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: Peiri doesn't have that. He's the favorite, but he's got

1316
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 4: that juice.

1317
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I just don't see Pere. I don't see

1318
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 11: Silvia being able to take him down. I'm gonna go

1319
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 11: Prairie here by knockout, and I'm very.

1320
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 7: Confident in this, all right, Brian Petrie is going to

1321
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 7: look for the knockout prop on Alex Paeda. On the

1322
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 7: other side, camp flop Bruno Silva started his MMA career

1323
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 7: five and five. Now he is twenty two and six.

1324
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 7: Your thoughts on him here against Potata?

1325
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and pretty much all of his losses were early

1326
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: in his career. This guy, you know, experienced a lot

1327
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: of volatility early in his career, then found a lot

1328
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: of consistency and a lot of that consistent and see

1329
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: happened because of his hands, because of his striking. He

1330
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: does hit very hard. He comes from that shoot to

1331
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: box style of striking background. Also is a Brazilian jitsu

1332
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: black belt, so he could fall back on that if

1333
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: he does get in trouble. But is that is that

1334
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: where he can really, you know, be effective against Patta.

1335
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. It remains to be seen, but it

1336
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: is a nice thing to have in your back pocket.

1337
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 10: Uh.

1338
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's gonna change his colors, not certainly,

1339
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: not early in a fight. And I think that's what's

1340
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna lead to his downfall. Peta just is gonna be

1341
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: too much. His size is just crazy, his strength I

1342
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: believe in this kid, and I think he's gonna do

1343
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: very well here. I expected to win by ko.

1344
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 7: All right, both guys like Alect Paeda. We move on

1345
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 7: to the lightweights. Drew DOBERMONUS two fifty, Terrence McKinney stepping

1346
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 7: in here for Ricky the Gladiator. Glenn is plus two hundred.

1347
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 7: I think Ricky Glenn tore his groin. T Rex just

1348
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 7: had to win, as you guys know, February twenty six,

1349
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 7: takes this fight on eight days notice. On the other side,

1350
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 7: Dobert no longer ranked after back to back losses.

1351
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 8: Brian Petrie, who do you have?

1352
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 11: You know, I don't mind going first because Ken Flow

1353
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 11: is a legend, but I'm as right now, I'm trying

1354
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 11: to get in that beautiful mind at Ken Flow and

1355
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 11: seeing what he's going to go in there, because this

1356
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 11: is obviously a late, late minute replacement here. Drewde ober

1357
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 11: has been through it all. He's fought everyone. He's very good.

1358
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 11: The one knock on Drew dober is definitely not his looks,

1359
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 11: but it's his wrestling. He gets taken down, he gets submitted,

1360
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 11: that's kind.

1361
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: Of a thing. But usually he fights high level guys

1362
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 4: Terrence McKinney. I love this kid.

1363
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 11: I love his positive attitude, I love his his his abilities.

1364
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 11: I mean, he cracks, but he's a wrestler. I hit

1365
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 11: him for nine hundred submission prop over fair zem. I

1366
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 11: thought that was pretty easy. So there's a lot to

1367
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 11: be said here because mckennny hasn't been out in the

1368
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 11: first round. Like, what do we see the only time

1369
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 11: we see him in the first round Againstean Woodson, that

1370
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 11: was at one forty five on the Contenders and he

1371
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 11: faded drewd Dober.

1372
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: Is a tough out.

1373
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 11: His takedown offense isn't great. And again I'm trying to

1374
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 11: play the game here, trying to see what Kenny's gonna do.

1375
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 11: I'm gonna take McKenny because he's plus two hundred. I

1376
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 11: like the wrestling, and uh, I don't want to be

1377
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 11: SpongeBob squarebats here, so I'm gonna go.

1378
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go under Doka.

1379
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: I like it.

1380
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 7: And this is how you spin a career forward, right,

1381
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 7: not a whole lot of downside. If McKinny loses, not

1382
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 7: onlike Moikano to Dosanjos, you certainly don't want to absorb

1383
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 7: like a lot of concussive damage over five outs necessarily

1384
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 7: like that.

1385
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 8: But you're right too, Drew Dover's fucking hot, huh.

1386
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 7: And Dober McKinney stylistically different matchup for Dover Dover than

1387
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 7: Glenn would have been.

1388
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 8: Your thoughts on him here against the late notice replacement

1389
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 8: Terrence mckin.

1390
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: This is an interesting fight. I think this is gonna

1391
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: tell me a lot about McKinney. I hope, anyway, you know,

1392
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: see him in there in a banger, you know, because

1393
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: Dover doesn't go easily. He likes to bring the fight

1394
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: to you. He brings a lot of pressure, has a

1395
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: lot of good tools out there that could pose a

1396
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: lot of problems for a lot of guys. So yeah,

1397
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: curious to see what his approach here is in this fight.

1398
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: Is he gonna try to stand up and strike with

1399
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: someone like McKinney. Is he gonna try to take him

1400
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: to the mat, because McKinney does come from a good

1401
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: wrestling background as well. So, but it is that wrestling

1402
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: background of McKinney which gives me a lot of confidence

1403
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 1: in him. I like this kid. I think he has

1404
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot of potential. He seems very focused. He puts

1405
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: it together well, And I think he's taking this fight

1406
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: for a reason, right, He's not gonna just take this

1407
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: fight just to kind of make a paycheck. I think

1408
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: he believes he can absolutely win this fight against a

1409
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: true veteran and Drew Dover. So yeah, Brian, you did

1410
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: get in my head. Guy. I like Terrace McKinney here

1411
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: as well.

1412
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 7: For the record, I'll have Ken fil the lead the

1413
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 7: co main event today Songya Dong and Marlon Muddie. But

1414
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 7: we now get to a pick and fight essentially a

1415
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 7: light heavyweight, the aforementioned Khalil, don't call him Khalil. Roundtree

1416
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 7: Junior minus one fifteen Carl roberts In minus one oh five.

1417
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 7: So Robertson Bryan has not fought since a loss to

1418
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 7: BA Brendan Allen last April. Roundtree Junior. He's fought a

1419
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 7: lot of strikers in his MMA career. Draws another one.

1420
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 11: Here your thoughts, Yeah, this is the battle of the inconsistence,

1421
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 11: you know. And I don't want to disrespect either fighter,

1422
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 11: but I mean, i've I was in a hot tid

1423
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 11: that's it. I was in Atlanta, USC two thirty six

1424
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 11: and round Trees kicks were like fucking baseball bats. I

1425
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 11: mean they I've never even heard it before. I mean

1426
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 11: it was it was crazy, that was it. And then

1427
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 11: he goes out and he loses the Marchine practicy go

1428
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 11: who you know gets rocked when he gets vas Lean

1429
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 11: put on him.

1430
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, no practico, But how.

1431
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 4: Do you lose that fight? I had a lot of

1432
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 4: money invested in round three. I'm a little bitter, I'm sorry.

1433
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 11: And then you got col Robertson, who who has literally

1434
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 11: kind of is a striker, has.

1435
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 4: Look good on the feet.

1436
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 11: But again, I think there's like a little mental hurder

1437
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 11: for him. You know, he had this huge beat with Victoria.

1438
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 11: They almost fought, and the fights got canceled. He got

1439
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 11: sick and they goes in there he lays in egg

1440
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 11: But he does have some decent ground game. He has

1441
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 11: a really good rod Niet joke. He gets on your back,

1442
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 11: it's almost death. So for that reason alone, I'm gonna

1443
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 11: take Roberson here. I'm gonna take Roberson, uh by finish.

1444
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 11: I like him by sub round trees. Cardio kind of

1445
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 11: bothers me as well, but his stand up is fantastic.

1446
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, give me Roberson here.

1447
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 8: Can't flow Roundtree Junior or Robertson. For you, I said,

1448
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 8: Brian nailed it.

1449
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: These are two of the most difficult guys to bet

1450
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: on in the UFC, you know, particularly for me for

1451
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: for round Tree. Uh, you know, I think Khalil is

1452
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: the better striker here. At least he tends to show

1453
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: up a little bit more on the feet than say

1454
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: Robertson does. I'll go with Khalil. You know, if he's

1455
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna get it done, he needs to get it done

1456
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: on the feet and most likely early. Let's go with Khalil.

1457
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 7: By the way, we were taping anecdotes last week and

1458
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 7: and Cody was asking like a viewer question, and he

1459
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 7: called Edson Barbosa like Edgison because he's dating a Brazilian girl.

1460
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 8: N Cody, I got mad love for you.

1461
01:06:54,320 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: He takes one Brazilian girl. He's Brazilian. Oh oh my,

1462
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: gotch at.

1463
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 7: How about RDA moving back to Brazil. He should already

1464
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 7: be there, but he had to delay his whole goddamn

1465
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 7: move because he was supposed to fight for Zeve. And

1466
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 7: you know, builds this beautiful garage gym in Costa Mesa, California.

1467
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: See you, Yeah, I mean he could always stay at

1468
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: Coasta Mesa and just pay ten times things, right, or

1469
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: more than he would pay in Brazil. He could live

1470
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: like a king there right.

1471
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 7: Oh and his wife wants to be there, you know, right,

1472
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 7: That's why Ken flows and shot Ittte wife wants to

1473
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 7: be there all right at Featherwick.

1474
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,479
Speaker 8: This is a big fight here.

1475
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 7: Twelve francs adik yusuf modest two thirty five, number fifteen

1476
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 7: Alex Caseras plus one ninety. Raise your hand if you're

1477
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 7: happy to see a number next to Alice Caseras's name.

1478
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 8: Fucking me.

1479
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 7: I love both of these guys, Brian, I hate to

1480
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 7: see either of them lose. I know that's a lazy take,

1481
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 7: but uh, who do you like in this one? Big

1482
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 7: steaks here at one hundred and forty five pounds.

1483
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 4: Interesting fight.

1484
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: I like this.

1485
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: Excuse me, I like this mass making. I'm not yarning

1486
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 4: the Greek, so excuse me if my get stats here around,

1487
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 4: because's the stats guy.

1488
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 11: Als Csaras has won six underdog fights, has won six

1489
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 11: underdog wins in the UFC.

1490
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 4: I mean that's incredible.

1491
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 11: He's the Kappers dream. He was the underdog against Chase Hooper,

1492
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 11: slight underdog. I got him at the underdog price, no

1493
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 11: offense to Chase Hooper. I hope he's eating M and MS.

1494
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 11: I hope he's enjoying his life. But he shouldn't have

1495
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 11: been an underdog to Chase Sooper at that point in

1496
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 11: Chase Sooper's career. I mean, Chase Hooper is like, what,

1497
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 11: fifteen years old, He's got a long way to go.

1498
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 11: Sadiq's my guy, though, explosively powerful. One of the best

1499
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 11: contenency fights I've ever seen against Mike Davis, who's also

1500
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 11: a stud. This guy's really good and he's coming off

1501
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 11: that loss almost a year ago.

1502
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: To Arnor Allen.

1503
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 11: But I rewatched that fight recently and it was a

1504
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 11: lot closer than people give Sudee credit for me. Sadek

1505
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 11: got dropped in a round one and two battle back.

1506
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 11: Round three was his best round, so Cardio checks out.

1507
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 11: He's explosively's powerful. Casara's I think has only been knocked

1508
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 11: out or finished by Tiko once. Usually he gets finished

1509
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 11: by sub. Haven't really seen that in Sadik's game. I

1510
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 11: can understand why a lot of people are in Cassra's

1511
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 11: here is the underdog darling, But I'm a Sadik guy.

1512
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 11: I'm a believer in Sadik Yusuf. I like him decision.

1513
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 11: I think Sarah's is gonna hold up.

1514
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 3: Well.

1515
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Sadik by decision.

1516
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 8: I love you given the method of victory, even though

1517
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 8: it's not required. Chase Hooper's whiter than you, by the way, Briy,

1518
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:12,839
Speaker 8: I love it.

1519
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 7: Alex Cassaris is on some like Jim millershit right now.

1520
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 7: He's competed twenty five times in the UFC. He's won

1521
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 7: five in a row, been on the roster longer than

1522
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 7: me over a decade, nine and four since returning to

1523
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 7: the featherweight division full time. Can flow What do you

1524
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 7: think he has for sadik us geez?

1525
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, I've been really impressed with Cassarras and his

1526
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: ability to improve in all areas. I trained with Cassarras

1527
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: early on in his career, so he's definitely come a

1528
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: long way man, and he's fought a lot smarter as well.

1529
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: Can't he beat a guy like Sadiq Usef though I

1530
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think Sadiq has him in a

1531
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: few different departments. I don't think he has him in

1532
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: the grappling department. I think Casara's is probably better there,

1533
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: but he Casara's does have an unorthodox approach which could

1534
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: throw off some people. I don't think it's gonna throw

1535
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: off Sadiki you Sef enough though I like Sadeki all right.

1536
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 7: Comin event Ken Flow leads here a couple of rank

1537
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 7: Banham weight's fourteenth rank Song you Dong taking on number

1538
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 7: ten Magic Marlin Marie you Dong minus two sixty made

1539
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 7: plus two ten. Was looking at Maris's strength of schedule today,

1540
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 7: Kenny just absurd. That's my favorite name to hear you say,

1541
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 7: by the way, but he's winless now dating to twenty nineteen,

1542
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 7: he's lost three in a row. Last fight for him

1543
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 7: UFC two sixty six a lost to Morob Dwalash. Willie

1544
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 7: you Dong. On the other side, just one loss in

1545
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 7: nine UFC appearances. But he's been in a lot of

1546
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 7: close fights, and I do know that Maris has spent

1547
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 7: some time in Thailand training for this fight.

1548
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 8: What are your thoughts, Kenny on the co main event?

1549
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, geez, you know, Morie has such a great offensive arsenal.

1550
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: When he's on his game, man, he is capable of

1551
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: beating anyone in his weight class. I truly believe that

1552
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: the problem is he's short on confidence right now, and

1553
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: I think it is kind of bringing him down this

1554
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: rabbit hole that has really turned him into a completely

1555
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: different fighter. So I think he's a little gun shy

1556
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: right now, which is not great. Has he gotten over

1557
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 1: that mental hurdle. I don't know. He's still going to

1558
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: be super dangerous just based on his speed alone. Man

1559
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: as he fast, man is he powerful, and he's got

1560
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons on the feet and early on

1561
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: you really got to watch out. So he could win

1562
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,520
Speaker 1: this fight early, there's no question about it. But it's

1563
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: especially difficult, just like how Edson Barbosa has experienced this.

1564
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: When someone has the blueprint on you, once they've clearly

1565
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: identified a weakness and an approach and a game plan

1566
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: is that has been proven, it's gonna be hard to

1567
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: make those adjustments. And it's a little concerning that we

1568
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: haven't seen those adjustments made by Marlon Morice right now,

1569
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: no matter what camp he's with. So I like, I

1570
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: like the dong here. I think yeah, I think uh yeah,

1571
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: I think Song Get Dog is gonna get it done.

1572
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 7: So I mentioned the strength of schedule Brian for uh

1573
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 7: Magic Marlin, but Ice and not that this is an

1574
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 7: easy fight, but certainly on paper it seems to be

1575
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 7: a little bit of a let up compared to the Gauntlet,

1576
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 7: where he's fought only top six competitions since he touched

1577
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 7: put in the UFC. What are your thoughts on that

1578
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 7: Ice here trying to sort of k start something against Song.

1579
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: You don't, Yeah, this is this is the fight.

1580
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 11: I mean, every time I dig into these guys, I

1581
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 11: can't believe Song and Dong is twenty four. I know

1582
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 11: they gets mentioned like every time, and he's got so

1583
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 11: many fights and Malin Rice only thirty three, and I

1584
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 11: you know, the past couple fights, I've actually kind of

1585
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 11: called for his retirement. I don't like seeing him take

1586
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 11: that punishment. It looks like he's kind of unmotivated and

1587
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 11: getting put out, and you know, he could be on

1588
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 11: a five fight less streak if if the judges gave

1589
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 11: it to Josey Aldo. So I don't like seeing fighters take,

1590
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 11: you know, unnessary principle. When he came to the UFC

1591
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 11: in the World Series of Fighting, the guy's fucking dangerous,

1592
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 11: and I like the move to mayor top to you

1593
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 11: and believe he was in Jersey with Edgar, then what's

1594
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 11: the top team? And I like hearing him that he's

1595
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 11: in Thailand. They really kind of maybe polished up his

1596
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 11: defense stuff because his kicks and punches are powerful. But Song,

1597
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 11: you Dong, you know, he's he's been next up for

1598
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 11: a while. We've been hearing about this kid for a

1599
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 11: long time. He's got one loss in UFC, He's got

1600
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 11: a draw, but he's got one loss with my guy

1601
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 11: Kyler Phillips, which was another close fight, and he's coming

1602
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 11: off a really beautiful knockout over Jose Julio Arsey. Excuse me,

1603
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 11: and I just you know, I like Song's power here.

1604
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 11: I think his power is gonna be the difference. I

1605
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 11: think his takedown the fences is shown up pretty well.

1606
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 11: Another thing about Marlon Rice is is his cardio hasn't

1607
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 11: really shown up as as his chin hasn't.

1608
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, I hope for a good fight.

1609
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 11: I kind of hope that Marlon Rice maybe gets it

1610
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 11: to a decision so I don't have the same him

1611
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 11: get knocked out. But I do think Songs gonna catch him.

1612
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 11: He's a big powerful young kids. So I'm gonna go Song,

1613
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 11: you know by ko.

1614
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 7: All right, both guys like songing you dong and Bri,

1615
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 7: I'll go right back to you. On the main event,

1616
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 7: number five and number six at light heavyweight, Maga met

1617
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 7: unc eliab minus four ninety against Tiago Mahet de Santos,

1618
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 7: who is plus three sixty so un Callab, as you

1619
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 7: guys know, has been on a tear drop his debut

1620
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 7: to Paul Craig, but since it's reeled off seventh straight,

1621
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 7: he's a five to one favorite here.

1622
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 8: Brian, who do you have? Sorry, couldn't resist?

1623
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 4: I love I love the Paul, I love it.

1624
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: Correct.

1625
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 7: Yes, Scotland right, and we talk about Mike Myers. If

1626
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 7: it's not Scottish, it's crap. But the Scott's got on me.

1627
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 7: Did they call Scotland people Scott's I don't.

1628
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 11: I think I'm Scottish too, so I think I'm allowed

1629
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 11: to say Paul Creek.

1630
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know.

1631
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

1632
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 7: Well, No, they really don't like the way Americans say Craig, Craig, Craig,

1633
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 7: and then if you roll a little bit, you go

1634
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 7: Paul fucking Craig. They sound like a complete asshole. Brian,

1635
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 7: who wins the main event on Golia A prohibitive favorite,

1636
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 7: I would say, but perhaps not.

1637
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 11: Well, I'll cale as my guy. I think this guy's

1638
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 11: gonna be shining about real soon. The only obviously blemish

1639
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 11: on his record was was the Paul Craig fight, and

1640
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 11: he was winning that fight until the second left, you know,

1641
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 11: but he looked a little not himself like what we

1642
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 11: have seen, and he's shown he can do it any

1643
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 11: kind of way. You know, he's knocked out guys me

1644
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 11: locked out Kutulava twice. I don't care what they say

1645
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 11: about the first one, if Kudolava was actor or not.

1646
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 11: You know, this isn't time to fucking me dancing like that.

1647
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 11: But also he's won by decision. He's beaten some good

1648
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 11: guys by decisions. So it is Cardios checked out. He

1649
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 11: has that Sombo background. He's in Vegas right now training

1650
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 11: at the I believe at uh Extreme Coutur with Eric Nixon.

1651
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 4: He's finishing his camp up there.

1652
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: I like that.

1653
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 11: And Santos is a guy that I've constantly overlooked. I

1654
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 11: remember this guy getting knocked out at eighty five by

1655
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 11: day Branch going okay, well he's gonna go up.

1656
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 4: To two o five now.

1657
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 11: But that was the best thing that he's ever done,

1658
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 11: because one to eighty five was too much of a

1659
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 11: weight cut. He's never been knocked out at two five.

1660
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 11: He's a massive guy, and going up to two five

1661
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 11: would really.

1662
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 4: Changed his career.

1663
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: And I loved it.

1664
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 11: But I really do think his peak performance was the

1665
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 11: John Jones fight. I mean, we both his knees out

1666
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 11: was a very close fight could handle. I thought he

1667
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 11: won to I mean when people bring up the close

1668
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 11: John Jones fights, a lot of people bring up the

1669
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 11: Rays fight.

1670
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 4: I bring up the Santos fight. I thought that bro

1671
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 4: I thought that fight was way.

1672
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 11: Closer and he and he's but then after the knee injury,

1673
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 11: I know it's devastating to come back from two injuries.

1674
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 11: He's looked very pedestrian. And we've seen what a power

1675
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 11: puncher can do to Johnny Walker and he didn't do that.

1676
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 11: And it really puts a pause in me to really

1677
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 11: want to run to the window and bet plus me

1678
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 11: sixty against guy when an Calith to me hasn't really

1679
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 11: shown any weakness. I think this fight's could go to

1680
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 11: the decision, but I think you're gonna get a better

1681
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 11: price if you go ank. Calif By TKL because Santos

1682
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 11: has been proven to be pretty durable. So that's my

1683
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 11: pick an calive by TKL.

1684
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 8: And that's a good handicap. It is interesting.

1685
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 7: It's hard not to think about those twenty five minutes

1686
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 7: against Johnny Walker juxtapos against what Jamal Hill was able

1687
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 7: to do against him. Ken Flow on Caliev Santos, to

1688
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 7: what extent are you a believer in magamed long term?

1689
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 8: And who do you have in the main event.

1690
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: Brian's on fire tonight on Phi He's got the Ti

1691
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: Dice shirt and everything. Well, listen, I agree, man, listen.

1692
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: I think that for Thiago Santos, he since his knee surgery,

1693
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: particularly for me, it seems like he leaves his gun

1694
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: in the holster way too much. He does not letting go.

1695
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: What makes him dangerous is his power, his speed, and

1696
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen that he's not unleashing those weapons,

1697
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: so that's a little concerning. And he's massive, even at

1698
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: two hundred and five pounds despite him fighting at one

1699
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: eighty five. He's still big for the division, but he's

1700
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: not utilizing that. And I think what un Caliav has

1701
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: going for him is the fact that yes he can strike,

1702
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: he does need to be careful against Santos here, no

1703
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: question about it. Santo's still going to be dangerous, but

1704
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: he has the ability to take you down as well,

1705
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's most likely what his game plan

1706
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: is going to be, especially early, just kind of stifle

1707
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: and smother that offensive Sante's put him on his back,

1708
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 1: get him tired. Santos does get tired, especially when he's grappling.

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01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: And you know, as far as grappling goes, it takes

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01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: a long time man to get good, it really does.

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01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: And I think that for Santos, I don't think he's

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01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 1: done enough to really make up that grappling gap against

1713
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: someone like Uncliev who's going to be the better wrestler here.

1714
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: He's going to control him, He's going to work that

1715
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: ground and pound. So Uncliv should win this fight. And

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01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: like Brian, I agree. I think he's a guy that

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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: is going to be a two hundred five pound champion

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: in the near future.

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01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 8: All right, good stuff can flow.

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01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 7: I think, uh, when I submit my retirement letter to

1721
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 7: Pahoopa with my jiu jitsu, I'm retiring from jiu jitsu.

1722
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 8: I just decided to.

1723
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 7: Come on, Hey, Brian Petree MMAS podcast.

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01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 8: What do you got coming up this week? Anything that

1725
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 8: we should be locked into or what not?

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01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 11: I mean, I do a pick them every week, you

1727
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 11: know's podcast on iTunes, Spotify, all that stuff.

1728
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just give my give my picks out.

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01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 8: All right, buddy, great to see your shining face. Where

1730
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 8: do you live? Exactly?

1731
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 7: Remind me since now you Ohio baby, you're still there.

1732
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 7: I know you're Bengals fan. I didn't know if you

1733
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 7: were still there. That's pretty far from Columbus or No.

1734
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 4: No, I'm going. I'll be there. Tickets purchase we can.

1735
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 4: We can set up already with the wife.

1736
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, you already bought tickets.

1737
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, all right, let's cross check and if mine

1738
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 7: are better, I've used mine.

1739
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 8: You're not on the floor. I'm like Bruce Buffer and

1740
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 8: Joe Rogan stuff.

1741
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 4: I don't think I went floor. I don't think I

1742
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 4: went floor. But I did.

1743
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: I did.

1744
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 4: I did empty the wall a little bit, So we'll

1745
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 4: cross ja.

1746
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 3: Right.

1747
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 8: Well, I'm excited to meet you. None of the us

1748
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 8: and we appreciate you. Brother.

1749
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 7: Right, we'll talk to you next with us on the

1750
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 7: main event challenge. All right, that is it for today.

1751
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 7: Don't forget remember the show coming up this Thursday. If

1752
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 7: you want to hear Baloo Muhammad's thoughts on Kolby Covington's

1753
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Speaker 7: big win. Also and a florin podcast dot com. For

1754
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Speaker 7: all of your merchandise needs, you can also go to

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Speaker 7: Kenny Florianmartial Arts dot com.

1756
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 8: I spent twenty two minutes on that website this morning.

1757
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 8: I'm not even fucking kidding.

1758
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 7: It's all laid out beautifully, and I really do believe

1759
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 7: that if you are somebody who is a jiu jitsu

1760
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 7: practitioner on any level, just go to the website right

1761
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 7: check out the promo code, which I believe is a

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Speaker 7: F fifteen, But at least go to the website because

1763
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 7: even a guy like me who fucking hates jiu jitsu, no,

1764
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 7: I'm just kidding, I.

1765
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 8: Love watching it.

1766
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 7: I just don't like, you know, putting on the gee

1767
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 7: and having you know, a dude in my guard and

1768
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 7: all that.

1769
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,839
Speaker 8: But I really strongly, strongly encourage you to check.

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01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 7: That out and millions dot co if you want to

1771
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Speaker 7: get in on the one More Sleep movement as well.

1772
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 7: Best producer in podcast history, Cody Merrow, Thank you, sir.

1773
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 7: Thanks to our guest Ray Longo Brian Petrie. We are

1774
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 7: back with you next Monday. We'll get you ready for

1775
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 7: Tommy Aspinall and Alexander Volkov and of course recap Unclive

1776
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 7: and Santos with that for the Brazilian jiu jitsu black

1777
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 7: belt Ken fall Im John. A'm saying so long, thanks

1778
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 7: for listening, for watching, subscribe and all that stuff helps

1779
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 7: the show. We'll talk to you next week.

1780
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 10: Until then, you're fucking lady.

1781
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 3: Hello.

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