WEBVTT - NFC West Preview 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.920 Do you Around the NFL Podcast? Keep it above the 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:09.600 tree tops while opening their kimono's Welcome back to another 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.879 edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:14.240 Dan Hansus, and I am joined by a room filled 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:20.360 with heroes, Kevin Patra, Who's Westling? And Greg Rosatal. What's up? Boys? 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.600 Hey Dan, I think I did a better last show. 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:28.560 Your impression was definitely better than Greg's. Hey Dane, wait, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.920 let's do it? Hey Dan off? Alright Patrick first? Hey Dan? Alright, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.880 Hey Diane, see you're too twinky. Hey Dan, I don't 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:40.600 have a twang. Mine's a little cartoonish. Yeah, just to 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.959 make it a little more fun. Uh, Kevin Patrick back 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.920 for a second show the record. Uh oh, that shirt 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:53.920 can barely contain him. You grunt explains who you are. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.400 It's your identity in the gym. Oh really, Kevin, I 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.639 don't even know what that was, honestly. Oh, I thought 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:05.840 that was you never said those words ever. Uh. I 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:07.720 know there's always been a little bit of heat between 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.399 West and Patron the body tip and now you're on 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.880 the kissing cousins side of the table. Where are we 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.760 at on that? Well? He looks like he's got to 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.280 run around the shower just to get wet. WHOA, I 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.080 was trapped two by four to back to make sure 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.440 it didn't fall on me. I'm noticing the theme can 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.520 you run around? West is a competitive guy. He does 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.920 not like it when someone's you know, put up on 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:33.600 a pedestal. For instance Mark's Instagram account. He got competitive 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.560 man uh Patrick's body, which he takes pride in. So 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.319 let's not forget about shortstop Tony Garcia of the field. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.600 How awkward that one? Well, that one was actually true 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.480 any time that West's challenge is the greatest at something. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.560 He comes out with the Daggers. Well, Tony was proven 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.400 to be way better than me as a shortstop. It 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.680 wasn't the position of shortstop, it was the number three 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.280 hole in the lineup that was the managing. Don't it 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.400 all beared out well with the trophy? You are clearly 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.640 the manager of the year in that league? I hope. So. Um, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.400 this is the Friday edition of the Around the NFL podcast, 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.280 sponsored by No One Beholden to Nobody to Nobody. So 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:19.480 that's good, um. Today's show, we'll focus on two principal 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.960 things with a little slice of news. Thursday Night Football 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.960 six games and week two of the preseason, and we're 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.200 gonna go through all of them, touch on them. Um see, 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.720 you know what are the big takeaways from those games? 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.880 So we'll make sure to give you a real good 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.720 look at what we saw so far, and then come Monday, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.480 we'll we'll check in on the rest of the games. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:45.240 There will be six games today, thirty two teams, thirty 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:55.080 two two, ten games on Friday and Saturday and Sunday. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.040 We got there. I wasn't sure if you were serious 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.919 or just around. Oh no, that was then then takes 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.080 that show your work motto seriously very much so uh. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.680 And we will also then continue god our division preview series, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:14.919 wrapping up mercifully the NFC by taking on the NFC 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.320 West Division. So we'll do that, um and no no 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.639 reason to waste any time here Before we uh do 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.959 any of that, though, we gotta do the news. And 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:26.919 before we do the news, we gotta say hello to 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.160 the Irishman. I wasn't here last Friday when you guys 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.760 did it solely took over for me, So I was 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.400 just wanting, do you guys have any plans this weekend? 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.760 What are you guys up to? Gonna hang out with 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:41.160 Kevin Patrick. Yeah, Kevin Patrick in town all weekend? Yeah, 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.400 and uh all weekend? Ye Tomorrow, Mark Sessler and I 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.960 and are significant others. We're going under the big stars 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.320 in the sky to check out the Cold Plan Rose Bowl. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.320 I must have not got the invite hanging out with 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:59.240 Patrick though he said no, are you not ready to 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.440 hang out with? Uh? The I mean, I'm just stating 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.000 a fact. He didn't get the invite, didn't say he 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.520 couldn't he couldn't get one in the future. Out, just 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.800 pointing out a fact. Now, I bet you feel bad 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.160 about asking about what people are doing this weekend a 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.560 little bit. Yeah, all right, let's do some news right 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:26.080 on Friday for America. Yes, Eric Kush, Erica's first name 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.960 center for the perfect, perfect name to be moving to California. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.800 Very true. Uh, let's start with news that will affect 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.600 the a F C. Levan Bell, the best all around 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.400 running back in football, who has suspended four games this 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.680 season for violating the Leak's Substances of Abuse policy. That 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.159 suspension has been now knocked down to three games. Uh. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:56.120 The league announced on Friday the suspension was reduced on appeal. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.760 Bell had missed several drug tests, uh Ian Rappaport add reported. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:05.719 So with that said, that's a you know, any game, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.760 any amount of games without Levy on Bell is a 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.760 big deal. So this is great news Greg for the 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.840 Steelers who now are getting their guy back a game 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.680 earlier than they expected. Yeah, they get him back for 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.240 a Sunday night football game against another a f C 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.200 playoff team from a year ago, the Kansas City Chiefs. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.560 That helps. I mean, they've they've been getting used to 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.760 playing without some of their star players. They were pretty 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.200 good without Bell last year. So uh, if I was 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.760 a real Steelers optimist, I'd almost look at it like, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.599 this is a playoff team, this is guy. It's gonna 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.599 get a lot of work. It's not the worst thing 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.560 in the world to have him a little fresher, three 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.560 less games going and coming back from a terrible knee 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.920 injury a c L M c L tear. He gets 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.800 that extra three weeks. A lot of guys they rush 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.720 back because they want to be involved with week one 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.799 and get the season going. He doesn't have to rush anymore. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.640 He's got that time. So this could work out was 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.279 that they've got a quality backup. I think the big 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.440 big takeaway I have was that his next is if 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.520 he has another infraction, it's four games not And because 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.039 of the agreement they reached here, they need to They 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.240 need their defense to step it up, they need their 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.600 defense to be better and they'll be fine. I mean 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.920 with mart Tavios Brian being out last year, we have 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.880 to remember they were also without him for the first 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.280 four games last year when Bell was gone for two 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.760 as well. This is an annual thing, him having it 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:18.920 reduced by a game right before the season started and 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.640 went from three to two at this point, still have 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.440 five to four next years that we're saying we'll just 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:26.120 go ahead until he's a seventeen year veteran be suspended 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.520 for the entire So for your test, Levi and Bell, 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.240 he he hasn't taken very little criticism for a superstar 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.960 player who who blew it? Yeah, he's been a little 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.720 bit irresponsible, not only responsible, but if you're his teammate, 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.120 you can't be happy with him. And yeah, speaking of 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:47.919 Levy on Bell whoa The third annual Around the NFL 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:52.560 Podcast Fantasy Extravaganza takes place next week and I booked 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.760 a big fish. I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it there. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:59.040 I booked a big fish. I reeled in a big one. Uh, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:06.800 in terms of a guest, hold on tight, got him 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:11.160 in the boat. What is that that you raised my 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.640 competitive iro again? What do we need a big fish? 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.080 But we got gragging me? Oh not Mark though, huh, 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.560 he's an outsider. It's a good thing that Mark doesn't 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.160 listen to the shows when he's well. You have stationed 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.520 him outside the house like you're Fred Flintstone and can 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.840 you know the dinosaurs? I gotta do some prep. That's 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.680 why I was making a face, being like, oh, I 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.200 gotta get part of the reason I gotta get in 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:34.760 the lab and get ready for this. Yeah, part of 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.640 the reason I keep referencing it. I'm trying to remind 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.760 you to put on your hard hat, your fantasy hard hat. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.360 I'll be ready, same hard hat you wore when you 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.520 built roadal World brick by brick. Never happen with those 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:52.360 masculine hands. What's so funny? I didn't that as a 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.640 joke because I don't know everybody laughed at it. No 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.840 one's ever accused me of masculine hands, that's for sure. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.880 It's hard work moving strawberries. Oh, uh. And also um, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.920 just before we get into the Thursday and recap, I 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.440 just want to cycle back again the new kissing cousins 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.720 over here, almost adversaries. Uh. The last time they they 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:15.240 shared a dais together. This is what happened, West. I 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.000 feel like you have something to get off your chest 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.760 after the Kevin patra Um comments about his workout regiment 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.360 and how you've been. If I'll go ahead and tell us, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.200 he's making some great progress as you can see. But 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.680 as I'm coming from the sidelines up to my seat, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.800 I almost stepped on him. He's like a hundred seven Wow, 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:37.040 that's yeah, all in good, all in good fun. Las. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.560 Last February that was are where are you at now? 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.480 Are you physically bigger in your mind? Well, I've been. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.599 I told you earlier this summer that I was. It 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.240 was its summertime you cut down, lean down, was lean time, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.160 we'll get into winter. Then you bulked back up. So 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.480 I'm actually done a few pounds Dan, Thanks you look 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:58.640 at thanks? All right? He's checking in over there. The 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.160 common strategy make it awkward at all. I think he 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.480 looks great. I think Kevin looks better than he's ever 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.160 looked since he worked at the NFL. That's a true statement. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.960 I love does that for people. See he's glowing. All right, 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.360 let's talk about a Thursday night football got Well, it 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.960 wasn't Thursday Night football that brand built by the NFL, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.840 but it was Thursday night football being played. And let's 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.559 go down all through the six games. We want to 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.920 touch on something from all these games. Um, of course, Greig, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.600 we don't care about the final score. Okay, who cares 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.760 about I mean anyone, who's any anyone read Dan's end 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.000 around last week? Read the full thing, one topic and 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.559 then you learned all about not taking the preseason too seriously. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.360 Spelled it out for Greg. Uh, I see that was 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.160 that's a private joke, you know best editor, Um said 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.839 to me today or earlier today, he said, you know, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.800 what's the focus of your end around? And then Greg 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.920 cut him off and said, oh, if you knew anything 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.160 about the end Around, Eily, you know that it's multiple 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.839 topics every week. And the truth of the matter is, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:14.480 last week it was a la reveal Magnify coll A 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.520 one week says the man who's running bit is literally 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.600 that he never reads any of our articles. Who, yeah, 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.599 what do you mean? It was running bit is that 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:27.760 he didn't. Yeah, and I read your Tony Romo piece 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.880 and I really enjoyed it, and I take it out. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.800 But the reveal was that I had started writing it 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.640 on one topic at one topic column last week, so 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.040 eally check one of the victory box for really, I'll 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.120 take the al. All right, let's start talking about NFL 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.600 dot Com slash end around for all end around goodness, 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.440 including this week's column. West Tom Brady, you're getting an 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.640 old baby. I put it on paper, I read it, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.480 put it on paper, put forth some strong arguments which 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.079 I will rebut within the next couple of weeks. I 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:02.200 love it. That will be fun. Let's start in Seattle, guys, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.640 with our Thursday night recap, a game between the Vikings 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.160 and the Seahawks, a rematch, of course, of the wild 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.719 card game last year, the one that ended with a 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.680 Blair Walsh blowing the game. And his name will come 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.199 up a little bit later, but Chris Wessling. Let's start 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.520 with the man that keeps on popping up now in 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:26.760 any conversations about the two thousand sixteen season, Mr Revelation himself, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.920 Kristen Michael, and I call him a revelation awakening is 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.319 what that's been attached to him a lot. But West 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.319 you wrote and are what we learned recap that the 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.280 man was a revelation against the Vikings. He was, he 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.280 was explosive, He looked like he was shot out of 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.199 a cannon. On a few runs, he lost yards because 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.240 he slipped on the carpet twice and still average six 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.320 yards to carry. They lined him up wide as a receiver. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.800 We're leading with this because I'm guessing because I think 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.760 Kristen Michael is a much bigger story than the rest 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.920 of the football world does. But he looks to me 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.360 like an elite running back, not just like a guy 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.679 who's gonna step in in Week one because Thomas Rowles 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.599 isn't ready. They've got two stud running backs. Now, what 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.719 is the chance Devil's advocate here that this is a 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:13.360 classic preseason illusion situation where he is You know, we 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.319 talked about this guy two years ago that he was 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.440 gonna the same exact type of accolades, that he really 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.640 has had an awakening other than what we've seen, which 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.760 is a very limited sample size. If you want my 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.880 honest opinion, there's a zero percent chance that this is 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.280 not I trust my zero. I trust my eyes. This 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.760 is an explosive who has seen the light, and the 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.280 coaches have all talked about it. His teammates have all 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.559 talked about it. He's a different player than he was. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.920 He always had the talent, Now he's got the discipline 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.560 and the fundamentals. And I think we saw it at 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.240 the end of last year. It's not like it just 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.679 happened in the preseason. He had a good end of 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.120 last year in a good playoff game. Absolutely true. If 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.400 you go back and watch Week seventeen and the wild 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.760 card round of the playoffs, he ran with authority and 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.800 he looked like an every down running He's earned a role. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.520 He has that ability to cut while moving forward, which 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.520 is a Mall Charles type of trait. And they used 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.800 them out of the backfield splitting out wide, So maybe 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.520 they'll maybe they'll use him in that role a little 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.040 bit more to get him on the field back I 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.560 kind of expect them to split carries earlier here, where 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.520 was Teddy Bridgewater in this game? It's weird he didn't play, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.120 and Mike Zimmer isn't telling us why he didn't play, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.200 other than he didn't want him to play. I think 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.000 not hurt. I think it was just been I think 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.679 they were playing the Seahawks, and you know Ben Roethlisberger 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.800 didn't play, Aaron Rodgers hasn't played yet. I know Teddy 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.920 Bridger was not at that stage, but I just think 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.080 he decided to rest him. It was weird though, That's 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:31.480 kind of how I looked at it, like why put 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.080 him out there? And with this defense, You're still working 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.719 in an offensive line that hasn't messed yet, so why 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.280 put him back there? And uh, should the Minnesota Vikings 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:46.000 be concerned about Blair Walsh m I mean he he 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.000 hooked another one left or pushed it left. So yeah, 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.720 I think kickers in the NFL, if you've really if 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.360 you've read Michael Lewis has written about this, kicker in 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.240 the NFL isn't usually about talent. It's about mental toughness. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.120 Will see. It's it's a tricky position because you can 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.160 only stay with him so long. But that though, obviously, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.280 I hope that it's all straightened up by the regular season. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:08.880 My concerned, if I was the Vikings in this game, 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.079 is more Lakwan Treadewroll, who had a rough game, didn't 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.400 create much separation. I think the chance of him moving 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.040 up the depth chart before the season starts is over. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.360 At this point, I don't no nonsense job is safe 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.840 on the team. Yeah. Not only that, I don't think 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.840 Treadwill is gonna get a lot of snaps early. Not 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.680 on the end of the world, but their last two 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.800 first round picks, him and Trey Wayne is not getting 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.320 a lot of production out of those two guys. What 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.480 also tells you, I mean, we still think they're gonna 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.480 be a good team with him not having a lot 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.880 of that. They don't necessarily need that to be a 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.000 contender in the NFC. They don't need their first round 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.520 pick to come in and be explosive right away. All right, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.680 let's move on to the Cincinnati Bengals. At the Detroit 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.200 Lions and Kevin Patrick, you are are resident Lions fan. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.040 We all know you hang in there. You're a real 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.720 tragic figure in that sense, but you're in good company 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.720 with the Browns fan and Jets fan. Also attached to 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.120 his podcast, Matthew Stafford and Marvin Jones. I was just 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.800 talking about Marvin Jones as my breakout star candidate this season. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.760 They continue to look good together, don't they. Yes, I 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.880 mean that's the one. One of the biggest takeaways you 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.520 can take from the Lions offense is that Matthew Stafford 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:14.240 looks very comfortable and Jim Bob Couter's looks very comfortable. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.320 He was slinging it around on the first drive, and 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.400 then the connection with with Marvin Jones up the down 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.240 the field, not just on little short five yards six 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.200 d routes. He had a thirty two yard catching tap 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.840 to toe tap and then I followed directly by a 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.320 nineteen yard one. So I think that that combination is 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.040 already where it where we've heard it talk about that 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:35.840 He's Marvin Jones, is gonna be the number could be 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.800 the number one. I still think it's gonna end up 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.080 where take and him balance each other out. But he's 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.560 looking great so far. Stafford that more wow plays, I think, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.400 in this tiny sample size of the preseason than any 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:48.960 quarterback in the league. And I don't think you get 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.000 carried away because Russell Wilson, for instance, didn't score, didn't 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:53.840 do anything at a terrible game less thing. It's like 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.640 that doesn't change my opinion on him, but it's nice 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.160 to see. If your a Lions fan, I think that 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:58.640 the Lions are gonna have to throw the ball like 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.760 fifty times a game to win. I don't think you 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.600 can't move the ball the the The offensive line was 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.640 better this week as a pass blocking unit, but they 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:14.600 cannot open a hole to save their lives. Yeah, he's 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.840 just too stiff and tall. By the way, Patrick, I'm curious, uh, 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.480 Matthew Stafford in all your years as Alliance and he 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.000 has to be the most maddening player to watch right, Yes, 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.680 because he goes through spurts where he looks phenomenal when 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.000 he's run. I think they're gonna run a lot of 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.040 no huddle because that's when he looks the most comfortable 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.640 latent games last year we saw it against Miami for instance, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.800 when he's just a gun slinger just throwing it around 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.960 the park. He looks great, and he looks he looks 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:44.080 like a kid. But all right. And on the on 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.840 the Cincinnati side, Patrick, Tyler Boyd, we have Marvin Jones 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.520 now making plays in Detroit. Tyler Boyd, is he gonna 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.320 step in and be that number two that they need 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.120 behind a J. Green. Yes, he had a phenomenal sideline 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.320 catch today and you can see he knows where to 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.280 go in the zone. He had that he caught it 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.120 touchdown pass against the safety on the inside. I think 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.800 that he's gonna easily step in into that. Jones um 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.359 it's a new role in Cincinnati, and I think we 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.320 don't need to worry about the Cincinnati offense. I think 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.840 that's what they proved in the first two weeks of 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.160 the preseason. Jeremy Hill looked fantastic yesterday in limited time. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:18.800 He looks like he has his burst back. He was 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.440 running downhill, no stuttering at the line like we saw 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.280 early last year. And I think their their offensive line, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.880 their offensive line was creating huge holes. That says Boyd 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.879 Duke Tobin might have done it again with Boyd. They 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.280 were disappointed not to get Treadweller Dots and in the 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.040 first round right before them, and they might they might 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.840 end up happy with what they got and boys. A 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:42.600 report from Rob Wintraub, who's a freelance writer who specializes 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.440 in the Bengals, said the Bengals did not want Lakan 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.639 Lakwan Treadwell, whether he failed to them or not. They 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.800 were gonna take William Jackson. Wow. Uh, let's move on, guys, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:56.359 to the factory of gladness. Wow, the hype around the 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.719 Browns right now is through the roof and it's all 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.359 because r G three, Robert Riven the Third and Terrell 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.240 Prior continue to connect on deep balls long reception for 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.200 the second week in a row, this time for a 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:11.800 touchdown as the Browns. You know, let's let's face it, Greg, 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.480 the Browns are a team that they're not gonna win 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.360 the division. They're not going to go to the playoffs. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.879 But are there are we starting to see some hints 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.920 that this team could be fun to watch? Or is 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.920 this one of those cruel uh get the Browns fans 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.760 excited and then about their guts situations right now? I 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:31.119 think I don't have an answer yes or no. That's boring, 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.400 But I think Hugh Jackson's gonna make them more fun 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.440 to watch regardless. I don't know if this is a mirage, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.680 but he's going to make them more aggressive and he's 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.159 gonna maximize what they have. I think from the receivers 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.480 and the skill position. It's a wait and see for 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.639 me on Griffin, but it's nice to see him getting 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.480 some protection and throwing a nice deep ball like he 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.320 used to. I mean, he's good at that. I think 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.040 yesterday one thing. One thing yesterday proved. I think what 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.320 their offense is going to be is a lot of 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.200 short screen passes that go for a few yards and 0:18:58.240 --> 0:18:59.800 if somebody can break a tackle and then you're gonna 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.239 see the bomb. I mean he had. He he had 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:07.360 seventeen yards on his four receptions that weren't the two 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.200 bombs that he threw the two deep passes, and he 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:10.680 looked great on that. So I think that's what they're 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.879 gonna be. Their offense is gonna be quick passes to 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.239 get the ball of his hand so he's not hit, 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:15.800 and then when you can take a shot, you take 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.800 a shot. If Terrell Prior can't run more than a 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.080 go route, that's not gonna carry over to the regular season, 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.440 But that's a valuable trait. If you can beat a 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.720 great cornerback like Desmond trufon that badly with that sort 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.280 of size, you know, if they get Terrell Prior to 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:34.080 get yards and in five touchdowns, to me, that's a win. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.879 If regular season defenses know that all Terrell Prior is 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:38.760 doing his running straight down the field, they're gonna play 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.640 defense a little bit differently than true font. Yeah, it's 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.920 I don't know that that that's gonna carry over into 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.400 the regular season, but I think it's what Greg point 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.159 was at the top. It's definitely gonna be more exciting. 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.359 They're gonna try at least, But I think that playing 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.880 against the Falcons had something to do with his good play. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.439 They didn't touch him in a lot of situations. They 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.280 just didn't have a pass rush. Vic Beasley didn't play 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.320 because he's got a shoulder issue already, and I just 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.840 like we talked about last episode, I I'm I don't 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.000 think the Pelicans have a pass rush, and I think 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:11.840 that helped r G three. So this is this is 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.880 also where you have to look at it both ways. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.359 Hugh Jackson is not gonna show anything in the preseason 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.600