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Speaker 1: not molly or Opioid's biggest drug's fame. Anything you want,

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Speaker 2: Hey. Everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one

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Speaker 2: health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every

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Speaker 2: and more healed. And I'm so grateful for this community

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Speaker 2: people that I find fascinating not just personally and professionally,

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is someone who has been on my list

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Speaker 2: the one and only Kevin Hart, Hollywood's box office powerhouse,

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Speaker 2: He's a chairman of Heartbeat, a global multimedia platform company

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Speaker 2: creating entertainment at the intersection of comedy and culture with

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Speaker 2: Kevin is also the founder of Heartbeat Ventures. Kevin is

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Speaker 2: Audio Award for Best Original Audiobook. And I spent my

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Speaker 2: How to Tame Them. And I have to tell you,

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Speaker 2: different monsters, the different personalities, to my wife, my team,

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Speaker 2: to my colleagues. You've made it so relevant and accessible

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Speaker 2: and thank you so grateful to be sitting with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and you know, you know when flowers are

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Speaker 2: about you and your partner your ex wife that I

431
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: think is really powerful is that when it's just about us,

432
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 2: whoever that may be, you're either looking at each other

433
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: or you're looking past each other. And what you just

434
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: said is now we're looking in the same direction when

435
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: it's the kids. And so that switch. If you think

436
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: about any relationship in our life, when we think it's

437
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: just about us, when it's not about anyone else, you're

438
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: always going to be against each other. But as soon

439
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: as there's a higher purpose, or there's a commitment, or

440
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: there's a value that's super and understanding and understanding and

441
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: understanding that comes with the world of communication and great dialogue.

442
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: I can you know, and having this conversation, I can

443
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: point to so many examples of how it's so hard

444
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: to see the good if.

445
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: You're only seeing the bad. Like there's so many people

446
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: that struggle with their version of successes because they're looking

447
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: at someone else's. There's so many people that struggle with

448
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: their world of relationship because they're judging theirs based off

449
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: of someone else's right. And when you're constantly in the

450
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: space of not realizing or noticing your world, your reality

451
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: because you're living in what appears to be someone else's, well,

452
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: your shit is never gonna be right. It's never gonna

453
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: be right.

454
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: Right.

455
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: Like if I'm looking at everybody's relationship with their father

456
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: and I'm going I want that, Yeah, well, I'm not

457
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: embracing the world of good that came from my dad.

458
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: I could have went down the road that my dad did.

459
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: I could have easily been wrapped into the same world

460
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: of you know, drugs, gangs, violence, stick up boys, right,

461
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: like the embracing the hood at the highest level. Not

462
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: that I don't, because I do, that's where I'm from,

463
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: but I could I could have embraced it at a

464
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: much higher level and followed in the footsteps of my

465
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: father because that's what he did. But I was able

466
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: to realize the mistakes he made. I was able to

467
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: go I don't want to go down that street because

468
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: I see the consequences of it. That's a choice that

469
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: I made, right. Some don't make that choice, by the way,

470
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: no disrespect that those that haven't. It's to each his own.

471
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: You do what you want based off of who you've

472
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: seen or what you want to be true to live

473
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: your life. Ultimately, we get one live it for you.

474
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: Live it to the best, to the best space and

475
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: place that you feel you can win at. That's my motto.

476
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you right for wrong. I'm

477
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: saying identify things differently, and I make decisions based off

478
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: of examples that I can look at as not bad,

479
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: but ones that if I didn't have, I could have

480
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: made that mistake. So without a lesson, that was intentional.

481
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: My dad's given me lessons, right, it's not intentional. My

482
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: dad never said I went to jail so you didn't

483
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: have to. He never said that. But hey, man, seeing

484
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: you in jail, Dad, that just made me realize I

485
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: don't want to go there, hearing how you talk about it,

486
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: hearing how many times you went, But I don't want

487
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: to go there. Seeing what drugs did to you and

488
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: you talking and telling the stories what you lost, what

489
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: you had, Well, I don't want to do that. Okay,

490
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to embrace my father. I'm going

491
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: to embrace this imperfect human being because I'd be damned

492
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: if he's not, if he's not positioning me for personal

493
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: success in just understanding what I should and shouldn't do.

494
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: And it seems so logical, it seems like common sense.

495
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not that easy. For some it's not that easy.

496
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And sometimes what I'm hearing is sometimes the greatest

497
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: wisdom is unsaid and unintentional, right, Like, sometimes the greatest

498
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: wisdom is not what someone said to you. And sometimes

499
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: the greatest wisdom is knowing what not to do. I

500
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: think we think of it as like knowledge or learning

501
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: means someone's telling me what to do, and they told

502
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: me the right thing. Sometimes it's looking and saying, well,

503
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: I know what not to do now and what I'm

504
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: fascinated doing. And I think You're going to give people

505
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: a lot of hope listening to you today, because when

506
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: you say that you are complacent growing up, and I

507
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: consider you today to probably be one of the hardest

508
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: working people in entertainment from what I see and observe,

509
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: and when I've watched your interviews or listen to you,

510
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: you work super hard. You give it, you're all, You're

511
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: invested from a mission purpose point of view. But hey,

512
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: wait a minute, this person says I was complacent growing up,

513
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: and it's never one moment, it's never one thing. So

514
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't even want to simplify it with that kind

515
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: of a question. And what are the shifts that needed

516
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: to take place in order for you to go from

517
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: being complacent to being one of the hardest working people

518
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: who's committed to something.

519
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm big on, just like logic, right? And there's this

520
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: there's this like moment that I had where I just

521
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: kept saying why not? Like why right? And Russell Westbrook

522
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: is a good friend of mine. I tease him all

523
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: the time because the one saying that he has that

524
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: I wish I would have had or I wish I

525
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: got to first, is why not? Right? And it's so genius.

526
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: It's so genius. It's so simple, but yet so profound.

527
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: You don't just have to have one job and working

528
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: any job, and whether their job is a nine to

529
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: five or whether it's you know, half a day, full day,

530
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is. You don't just have to do one thing.

531
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: You can do a lot of different things. But there's

532
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: this weird this is mindset that a lot of people

533
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: have that you can only do one thing. And when

534
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: I realized, I don't have to just do one thing.

535
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: I can do a lot of different things. You can

536
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: be good at a lot of different things. But you

537
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: don't know that you're good at a lot of different

538
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: things unless you try a lot of different things. And

539
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: when I looked around and I kind of just realized

540
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: how the world goes around. It's all based off of creativity.

541
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: It's all based off of ideas. It's all based off

542
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: of thought provoking then groundbreaking opportunities. But the simplest things

543
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: have come from an idea, from your chair to your table,

544
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: to your wheel, to your light bulb, to your car,

545
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: to your plane, to your helicopter, to the idea of

546
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: a hotel, from hotels going to a place, of people

547
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: renting out houses and being bes to taxis to then

548
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: people driving their own cars, and these all ideas and

549
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: the groundbreaking thought that I had and realizing all these

550
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: ideas is that these ideas have the potential to touch

551
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: the sky if a person believes that they can. If

552
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: a person believes that they can, well, your world of

553
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: idea changes your reason for getting up, your reason for

554
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: putting your feet on the ground every morning. It can

555
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: change if you believe that the purpose that you now

556
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: have and that you're working towards based off of an idea,

557
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: it's something that you can succeed in. I grasped that

558
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: understanding and I attached it to everything that I tried

559
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: to do. I did not set out to be the actor,

560
00:31:53,920 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: the director, the writer, the producer, the CEO, the chair men,

561
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: the advice. I did not set out to do anything.

562
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna make it very clear, I don't have

563
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 1: the educational background for any of these things. What I

564
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: had was an idea to try, and after you get

565
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: an idea to try, what I had was the patience

566
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: to sit and listen, be a sponge, learn figure it

567
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: out and figuring it out. There was another side of

568
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: not being okay with the incomplete version of figuring out

569
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: the thing that I didn't do well. Why did I

570
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: go ask all these questions, but I'm not gonna try it.

571
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: Now that I know how, all right, let me try it.

572
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: The only consequence is failure. By the way, not trying

573
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: is failing. I wanna make that very clear. Not trying

574
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: is failing. There's a lot of things that people can't

575
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: do simply because you've never tried to do it. And

576
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you should try everything. I'm not

577
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: saying that you're supposed to do everything. I'm saying that

578
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: for me, when someone says something and I go, now,

579
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: I never did that, I have to have a reason

580
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: for why I've never done it and a justification. If

581
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: you ask me something, I go no, and you just

582
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: say why, and I go, that's not good enough for me.

583
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: I like to have a reason why. And that's that's

584
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: the foundation that I stand on. That's how I built

585
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: this mindset, this this level of energy to go ahead,

586
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: rhyme and reason within my why why not? It's the

587
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: Russ again. I love you to death, my brother. It's

588
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: the one that got away from me. And you're a

589
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: genius for saying it because it's so simple but yet

590
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: so profound. So everything that I'm doing that I'm attempting

591
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: to do it is because I started so much and

592
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to finish it. Yeah, And I like

593
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm forty three and I still got

594
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: energy behind what it is that I'm trying to do.

595
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it's like where you're going is

596
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: not as important as who you're growing into. For that direction,

597
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: like the person that you're evolving into, the things you

598
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: have to learn, the things you have to be surrounded by.

599
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: And I think that's the part that I get excited about.

600
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, like you said, whether you get there

601
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: or whatever there is or not, And it's not just

602
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: the journey and the destination because I think that's the

603
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: old cliche. But what I'm really hearing from you is

604
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: the person you grow into, the people you surround yourself

605
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: by in order to reach this big goal that is

606
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: so fulfilling, and that pursuit is worthy, right. The pursuit

607
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: is the happiness.

608
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: It's everything. Jeff said this before, and you'll hear so

609
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: many people say it that come from where I've come

610
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: from the bottom, or what's considered to be the bottom.

611
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: We are not stereotypically supposed to be in the rooms

612
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: that we're in. And when we say that, there's a

613
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: level of comfort. Right We're not supposed to be in

614
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: these rooms. And it's kind of cliche when you say it.

615
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: When you start getting these rooms, you know, oh wow,

616
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: why are we not supposed.

617
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: To be the rooms?

618
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: Right? Like, it's so amazing when you get to the

619
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: other side, you see the other side and you look

620
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: back and you just look at what you've grown from

621
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: the conversations that I'm able to have, the knowledge that

622
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: I'm able to speak with and the understanding I understand,

623
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: not because I'm a trained machine and I spent all

624
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: of this time prepping for and you know, this is

625
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: this is what the idea of education was all based

626
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: off of. No, the idea of discovery enhanced the muscle

627
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: that made me want for so much more information in

628
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: the space of life that I chose to love so

629
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: on entertainment and business. The level of failures that I

630
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: have had that I'm still having in some regard the

631
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: world of fixing, cleaning up, making better, understanding, growing relationships, building.

632
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: There is nothing more intriguing than me than being able

633
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: to turn around and look at Kevin at the age

634
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: twenty two and then looking at Kevin at the age

635
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: forty three, This was not the plan? What are you talking?

636
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: Every day is a new day, and every day I

637
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: found another thing to be excited about. Every day I

638
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: found another goal that I decided to attach to my tree.

639
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: And that tree got so many branches on it right now.

640
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: And so many people say, you're doing so much, or

641
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: why do you do so much? How do you do

642
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: so much? What is the what's the end game? What's

643
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: the goal? The game is being in the game, right

644
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: like it's it's being in the game the foundation that

645
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying my best to create. I hope and pray

646
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: that these four kids that I have, that they look

647
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: at it, that they see that they understand. We just

648
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: got a shot at something different. We gotta shot at

649
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: generational wealth. We got a shot at changing the quote

650
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: unquote trajectory within our culture of opportunity. We got a

651
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: shot to make this normal. Once again, I'm looking past me,

652
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at I'm looking at the bigger piece to

653
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: the plan. My kids got a bigger shot at breaking

654
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: ground and making this normal because other kids that look

655
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: like us, that came from where we come from, and

656
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: that grew up how I grew up, will now have

657
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: a different level of association for what can be achieved.

658
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: If it's based off of what I was able to do,

659
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm igniting a different level of thought, a different level

660
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: of what, a different level of motivation and inspiration. I'm

661
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: inspiring at a different level. Absolutely, when I get there

662
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: and at the last second I miss it and I fall,

663
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: I got there. I got there, And all that does

664
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: is show them that they can get there. They're not

665
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: gonna miss.

666
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: And they can go further.

667
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: They can go first. They're not gonna miss. They're equipped

668
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: with too much of the weapons. I've equipped you along

669
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: the way with so much, so you're prepared for all

670
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: this war that's coming up here. You're not gonna miss.

671
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: That might miss, that might fall, you're not. I love that,

672
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: And the kids coming up from under them, they're not

673
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: gonna miss. But you have to have this energy. Yeah,

674
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: it's bigger than me.

675
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: What's that one mindset that you're trying to pass on

676
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: to that next generation, your kids, the kids that come

677
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: off to that. Because it sounds like while you were

678
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: honest and saying, look, I didn't know I was going

679
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: to be a right director or an entrepreneur, or CEO.

680
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: I didn't have these. I didn't have the education, as

681
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: you said, but it sounds like you have some. You

682
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: have the mindset that's very clear, we know that. But

683
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: there's some core skills here that it sounds like you've

684
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: invested in very deeply and that you're trying to pass on.

685
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: If you could narrow them down to one, two or

686
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: three for us, what would you say are the skills

687
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 2: that you're like, this is how I want my kids

688
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: to be able to operate in this world, and that's

689
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: what they need.

690
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: The best skill that I have developed is the skill

691
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: of noticing and understanding that nothing is done by one individual.

692
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: No level of success is reached by one person. Right

693
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: like the there is a team effort that goes into

694
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: the smallest moment of success to the life charges and

695
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: the person that wants the rewards and accolades for it

696
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: all and that doesn't embrace the world of team and

697
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: the foundation that stands underneath whatever that thing is is

698
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: a person that won't last long. The thing that I

699
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: am most thankful for and the thing that I that

700
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: I'm glad that it has just improved over the course

701
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: of time, is the world of inclusion. With the wei,

702
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: there's no I and I hope that that's what I'm

703
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: passing down to my kids is that you know, nothing

704
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: is given, everything is earned, and for things to be

705
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: earned correctly, you know, you have to surround yourself with

706
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: people that you cannot only earn with, but that will

707
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: support and embrace along the way. Right, I have an

708
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: amazing team. After my team grows to be the stars

709
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: of tomorrow, from execs to creatives, to talent to writers, producers, directors,

710
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: everybody that's underneath this umbrella of heartbeat. Of heartbeat ventures

711
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: of the brands and the brand partnerships and the space

712
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: of entertainment and this ecosystem with the media that we've created.

713
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: We flourished because they flourish. And knowing that, identifying that

714
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: and try my best to support that. That's the thing

715
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: that I have had to work on. And when we

716
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: talk about Monsters Jay, there was a there was an

717
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: eye monster, there was a I need to do it.

718
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the call. I gotta I'm a boat.

719
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm no everybody move, watch y'all. I'm gonna show y'all

720
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: how to do it. I'm gonna take the meeting hit.

721
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: We're not listening to that we're gonna do it my way.

722
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: There was this heavy thing of me, I I I

723
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: not the way, Kevin, get out the way and let

724
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: other people be great. They're only going to make this

725
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: thing greater. You're prohibiting that by trying to stand in

726
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: a moment of great so that people can look and

727
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: point at you. Let other people do the thing that

728
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: they were brought here to do, and while they do it,

729
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: align yourself with them, embrace them, support them, and as

730
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: they grow, we grow. That's the thing that I flourish

731
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: in the most, which is why the first thing that

732
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: I asked you think about it. The first thing that

733
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: I asked you when we're here was setting up. I said,

734
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: how long have you guys been together? That's just me

735
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: asking because I want to see what the world of

736
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: your team is. And when you say what you say, well,

737
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: there's no coincidence that the level of success comes with

738
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: relationships that's evolved from day to said date. It comes

739
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: with an understanding that comes with a level of community.

740
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: More importantly, a want for successful We have it together

741
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: because we're embracing the world, not just one.

742
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: I love that you went there, man, like that there

743
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: could have been so many ways to answer that question,

744
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: and the fact that you brought it back to being

745
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: bigger than you. I mean that mindset, I mean that

746
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: mindset is everything, but it's so easily missed because we

747
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: grow up in a doggy dog society. We grow up

748
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: in a U versus me. I feel like when I

749
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: speak to people in the entertainment industry as well, for years,

750
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: especially if you were a minority or a person of color,

751
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: you were put against the only other person of color,

752
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: and so it's like they can be only one person

753
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: of color comedian, they can only be one person of

754
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: color actor, right Like it's all divided.

755
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: And so talked about this. It's you know, Dave, Chris, myself,

756
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: we're very close.

757
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love seeing that. That makes me happy.

758
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: The reason why we're so close is because you know,

759
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: there is no competition. We're not We're not competing with

760
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: one another. And you know, we all have different level

761
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: of success. That makes sense for us, right Like one

762
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: success has nothing to do with the other. And the support,

763
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: the love that we give each other that we embrace

764
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: each other with, it's all done with the understanding that

765
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: we can all exist at the same time. And the

766
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: conversation of there can only be one is one that

767
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: we've created as a culture. Like you know, we really

768
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: do pit our own against our own right. We really

769
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: have done it throughout the time. And by the way,

770
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with competition. There's nothing wrong with wanting

771
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: to be the best. There's nothing wrong with that conversation.

772
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: But it's a conversation that can be had and should

773
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: be had without the malicious intent behind it, right because ultimately,

774
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: success and success and that's what you're that's what you're

775
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: in the game for, to have some type of level

776
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: of success that checks the box for you. And you know,

777
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: once again, if you get to looking across the street

778
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: and you're looking at what the others are doing over there,

779
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: or you're missing what you've done over here, and I

780
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: just it's something that I think, over the course of

781
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: time has developed. It didn't start off like this. I

782
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: definitely was once again and being transparent. I was a

783
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: young comic that was like, man, when am I gonna

784
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: get my turn? I'm funny, I'm funnier than I need it.

785
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Oh my god, nobody wants like you

786
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: do go through that, and rightfully so there's frustration in

787
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: not knowing or not understanding why my opportunity hasn't or isn't.

788
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: There's frustration in that, but there's also a sense of

789
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: calm that comes in confidence of knowing that you're putting

790
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: the work in for a reason and that it will

791
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: pay off. And I had to make that change. I

792
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: had to make the change of saying, I'm doing the work.

793
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: Am I showing up every day? And am I prepared?

794
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: And if this opportunity does come, am I ready for it?

795
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: Because there's nothing worse than it comes. And I don't

796
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: have a set. I don't have a tight five minutes.

797
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't have a tight ten. I didn't have a

798
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: twenty five minute set. Oh my god. They wanted to

799
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: clean material. I didn't have no clean material. There's nothing

800
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: worse than not being ready.

801
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

802
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do

803
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: the work and make sure I'm ready. Let me go

804
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 1: take these acting classes. Before I even got an acting role.

805
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in damn acting classes. I'm spending a little

806
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: bit of money I got doing one on one sessions

807
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: that I wasn't comfortable being in the class. I had

808
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: to get this pace of comfort. I don't have any roles,

809
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have any auditions yet. I'm doing the work

810
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: so that when I get there, I don't have to

811
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: go backwards and do it.

812
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that mindset. I think that is so underrated.

813
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: Are you even ready? If the opportunity came knocking? Are

814
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: you even ready? And two things that I took away

815
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: from that. The first was something you said about you

816
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: Chris and Dave, which and I love hearing about that friendship.

817
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful to hear about that. I read something

818
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: from Bob Igo where he was talking about how at

819
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: one point Spielberg, George Lucas and I think it was

820
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: Tarantino they would show each other their movies before it

821
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: went anywhere. So they'd sit in this tiny little theater

822
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: or whatever. They'd show each other their movies, give each

823
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: other feedback, and then did all launch their movies. And

824
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: of course all of those people are you know, I

825
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: mean icons. And it's unbelievable because you think they were

826
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: so confident in who they were and what their style was.

827
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, a Spielberg movie doesn't look like Lucas movie,

828
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: and a Lucas movie doesn't look like a Tarantino movie.

829
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: They were so confident in who they were and what

830
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: they brought to the table that they could even show

831
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: their best work.

832
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: I trust your level of understanding, opinion, and story and

833
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: the highest regard that even though we don't share the

834
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: same love for genre material whatever you want to call it,

835
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: right like whether it's sci fi to drama to action

836
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: like these are all, like you said, different people, but

837
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: you know story, you know character. I trust that you'll

838
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: be able to watch my project, tell me if my

839
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: characters are easy to track, and if you care, and

840
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: if you don't care. I also trusted you'll be able

841
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: to tell me why you felt you didn't. I also

842
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: feel that in the space of solution, you're not gonna

843
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: throw things at me that are not doable. You're gonna

844
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: know the context of what I have that I'm working with,

845
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: what's left on the cutting room floor, what I can

846
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: possibly do to do reshoots. Everything that you're gonna tell

847
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: me is within regards of having my best interests. That's confidence.

848
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: That's also a strong relationship and a friendship that along

849
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: the journey of success. As we've all gotten to the

850
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: top of this mountain, we understand that your stance on

851
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: your mountain has nothing to do with mine. Dave Schappel

852
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: has made me and Chris Rock feel stupid at times

853
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: when it comes to our choice and material. We have

854
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: watched Dave in our earlier stages of just working on

855
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: our set, and we would spend time at the seller

856
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: and one would come and we would all go and

857
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: Dave would go up, and me and Chris are just

858
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: went up and we're happy about our material. We're giving

859
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: each other notes we watched Dave. There's been times we

860
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: have looked at each other and we balled our papers

861
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: up and said, we got to start over. We got

862
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: to start over. Not because of jealousy or envy, No,

863
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: because we challenge each other and we spark and amp

864
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: the world of like we want the best, but not

865
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: only each other, but for ourselves. And you inspire me

866
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: and you encourage me, and I love the reporter we

867
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: have because we do exactly the same thing. Y'all think

868
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: my hours ready? I want you to come see me,

869
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: Christen what you think? Kevin like it, but I still

870
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: think you can. keV come see me. I'm doing an

871
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: hour and forty right now, hour and forty, Yeah, tell

872
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: me what you think. I'm probably gonna trim twenty out

873
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: of it. It is all right, I'm coming. David's up,

874
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: come to Ohio. You don't like what I'm working on,

875
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: I want your eyes all right like this. That's a

876
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: strong relationship and it's one that I embrace and I

877
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: celebrated often. Man, I celebrated often. I think it's very

878
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: important for people to see other entertainers at this level

879
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: just simply celebrate each other's success. I love it, whether

880
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: it's rappers, singers, actors, actresses, comedians, writers, directors, whoever. I

881
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: love to see a room where people are in it

882
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: and they're celebrating one another. We're all a part of

883
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: a fraternity, and you know, if we treated right, that

884
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: fraternity will have an amazing stance forever. Yeah, right, Like

885
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: you don't want to attach bad stories to it if

886
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: we don't have to.

887
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: And I think that's the most inspiring thing for the kids,

888
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: because when I think about younger generations, if you grew

889
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: up watching your favorite people and you knew they were

890
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: all friends, how does that change the game now? Because

891
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: if you're seeing your favorite people fight each other and

892
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: battle it out for the crown, what are you going

893
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: to do with the person sitting right next to you

894
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: at school. And I think that's I saw that so

895
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: much growing up, where I've always wanted to connect with

896
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: people regardless of what we do in this space. But

897
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: you saw so many people who are coming at it

898
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: from the perspective of let's see who does better, let's

899
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 2: see who does more. And again, I love what you said.

900
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: Competition is not a bad thing. Let's not give it

901
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: a bad name. But the idea that we've got to

902
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: be able to hold two truths. We can compete and

903
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: still be friends.

904
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: Still be friends, And I think people friends, Yeah, you

905
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: have to choose, but you still be friends. You know,

906
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: there was a time where the USA men's swim team,

907
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: the Olympic team, this team was just so elite. And

908
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: this is in Phelps is like Phelps was Phelps a

909
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: human fish, right, But when you look at a lot

910
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: and you look at the other men that were competing

911
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: on that team, and he looked at the world of

912
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: petition between them themselves, those practices were more than just practices.

913
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: The world of training before the Olympics and the battles

914
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: that took place in those pools where they got ready

915
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: and they were by each other's side every single day.

916
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: When I tell you that Atmosphair is one that nobody

917
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: else can understand except the ones that are competing to

918
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: be great. By the way, at the end of every

919
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: practice they would get out and shake each other's hands

920
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: without me being here. I'm willing to bet and say,

921
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: Gil when you push me today, you kick my ass today. Hey, tomorrow, man,

922
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can lower my time. I'm

923
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: not happy with my two hundred. I'll go. I'll do

924
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: it with you. I'll push you. Hey, my backstroke is whatever. Hey,

925
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: you know what today on those fifties we did the reption,

926
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: seemed like you got stronger along the way. Well, I

927
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: saw you next to me. That motivation, that motivation that

928
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: you're pulling from being alongside of somebody that's quote unquote

929
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: the best or the quote unquote greatest. You're using that

930
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: as fuel. That's not bad. But not in one interview

931
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: that you ever see them have any type of report

932
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: that looked as if there was animosity or anger towards

933
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: one success. The happiest people for Michael Felps with the

934
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: people on his team. The happiest people were the people

935
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: that got the silver that were on his team. That

936
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: to me, that's the mold and the making of real champions, right,

937
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: that's the mold in the making. Like if you're in

938
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: it and you have said, this is what I'm destined

939
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: to do, and I'm gonna give my all, and every

940
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: day I show up with one hundred percent, regardless of

941
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: the outcome, I'm showing up with one hundred percent. That

942
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: day gonna come. Whenever it comes, I'm gonna be ready,

943
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna come. I'm gonna get my just doing my fulfilling,

944
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: my fulfilling need and energy and want for knowing that

945
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: I have just delivered for myself. That's what I can

946
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: pee with. That's why I look at them here. Sometimes

947
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: I let myself down because the things that I'm trying

948
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: to do I should know I can't redo. Sometimes I'm

949
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: chasing the thing that can't be redone again. Sometimes the

950
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: lightning in the bottle strikes once, You're not gonna get

951
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: that again. So there's times when I'm so hard on

952
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: myself that I missed the moments of success that I

953
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: should realize that I'm having because I'm chasing this thing.

954
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: There's a time where I was doing two shows and

955
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: arenas a night four shows in the city and arenas

956
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: as a comedian. Go back on tour the next one,

957
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: I only do two shows. Oh my god, I'm falling off.

958
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: What's happening? No, sold out six seven shows of Matterson

959
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: Square girlm what. I feel bad because I didn't do

960
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: it again. That ain't gonna happen again. That was lightning

961
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: in the bottle. You gotta get to a place of

962
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: understanding and realization. But once again, it's the monsters, man, Yea,

963
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: the monsters.

964
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. You talk about this in the audiobook and I

965
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: loved it. It was all about the addiction number one. Yes,

966
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: it's this idea and you love this. There was a

967
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: study that I saw that said, because you brought up

968
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: the Olympics, it's about my brain. There's a study that

969
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: I saw that said people who win bronze are happier

970
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: than people who win silver because the people who came

971
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: second were this close to first.

972
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah.

973
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: But the person who came third, they were happy. They

974
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: were like, we weren't gonna get first, but we got in.

975
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: We got on the podium, and it's that podium syndrome

976
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: of at least we got on. But the second the

977
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: person in silver, they are mad at themselves. Yeah, because

978
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: they didn't get number one.

979
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

980
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: And so that addiction to number one is so strong.

981
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: It's a bigger addiction when there's multiple versions. I'm guilty

982
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: of the multiple Like, Okay, I need it. Got a

983
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: movie coming out, movie going to the box, I need it.

984
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: I need number one. I don't get number one. I'm like,

985
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: I failed flop. I don't get them one with a flop.

986
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: It's a flop. I gotta get them one. It's one

987
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: or a flop flop. There's no one between. It's one

988
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: on flop like always got numb one, it's got to

989
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: be number one. What happens is you're so you're so

990
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: unrealistic in expectations that you're missing real success. Now I've

991
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: been fortunate and blessed enough to have a ton of them,

992
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: but I got to a place where the wind was

993
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: attached to the project. The wind was attached to me

994
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: finishing a movie and being happy about the movie that

995
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: I did. Union workers are happy, and a director coming

996
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: out with the finished piece of the product going you're

997
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: gonna like this, and we see it and we actually

998
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: like it, And then we screen it for fans, and

999
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: fans go, we loved that's the wine, that's the win.

1000
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: This other thing and I'm trying to control, Kesh. Stop,

1001
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: you can't control that. And if you keep on going

1002
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: in the direction that you're going in, if and when

1003
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: that thing changes, you're going to be so hurt that

1004
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: the world of recovery might not be easy for you.

1005
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: Your logic and what you're now deeming as like reality

1006
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: for you, it's not reality if you don't grasp the

1007
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: real concept of what it should be. Now. It doesn't

1008
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: mean that you're saying that you are ready to fail.

1009
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: It's saying be prepared for the world of real to

1010
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: present itself at any point in time. Don't get caught

1011
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: up in the world of fake and me acting is

1012
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: if I control these numbers, is if I can navigate

1013
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: and direct and make it happen when and how I want.

1014
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: All the time, I'm setting myself up, so you know

1015
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna check myself now, let

1016
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: me balance it out. Now, what are you doing? I

1017
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: love what I do, all right, well, then let's be

1018
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: happy in what we do. I talked to David Lettiman

1019
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: on my comedy podcast, Right Comedy God Minds, and Letterman

1020
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: said he was so dark at one point because all

1021
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: he did was show up and he looked at the

1022
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: numbers between him and the other.

1023
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: Shows every day.

1024
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: Every day, he said, every day I got there and

1025
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: I looked at it and I would my team, you

1026
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: were not working hard enough, and I was so hard,

1027
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: he said, I'm so hard on people. And when you

1028
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: hear him talk love David by the way, I don't

1029
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: know the letterment of old that some people ran into.

1030
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: I know the letterment of now. And he's so transparent

1031
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: the information and how he talks and what he's overcome.

1032
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: His stories were just it was so good to hear

1033
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: because when you hear people that are openly telling you

1034
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: you can't do this, you can't operate like this, because

1035
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: it eats away at you, it eats away. It made

1036
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: me realize I did go through a piece of that.

1037
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: I just was able to catch mine early.

1038
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: And in the worry of like we might fail, we

1039
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: risk being open to being broken, right, Like that's the risk,

1040
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: Like you don't want to go down, but you don't

1041
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: realize that if you I'm not prepared for that down.

1042
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: The down is gonna be far us.

1043
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be far worse man. We have had a

1044
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: live example of a lot of those downs. Right, like

1045
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: in real time, we're watching I called The Truman Show

1046
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: and for everybody listening to your podcast if you're not

1047
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: familiar with The Truman Show is a Jim Carrey movie,

1048
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: but basically, you know people's lives, it's the movie right

1049
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: we're watching We're watching real live movies every single day,

1050
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: and you're watching people make mistakes, recover from mistakes, not

1051
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: recover from mistakes, make rights instead of lefts, lefts instead

1052
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: of rights, and seeing that we choose to ignore it

1053
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: as if it's not real life. Yeah, we choose to

1054
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: ignore it.

1055
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: It feels like it's TV.

1056
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: And the biggest drug, the biggest drug. It's not cocaine,

1057
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: it's not heroin, it's not molly or opioids. And the

1058
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: biggest drug it's fame.

1059
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: And now it's more accessible in different doses.

1060
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: It's the biggest drug. And the reason why it's the

1061
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: biggest drug because it's a drug that makes you feel

1062
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: like you are powerful and like everywhere you go, anything

1063
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: you want, everything you want. It's it's a thing. And

1064
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: if you can't handle this thing. The consequence is attached

1065
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: to when that thing is removed. Are severe. Nobody prepares

1066
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: you for the world of fame. There is no handbook,

1067
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: there is no outline, there is no guide by guide

1068
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: step one to step ten. There's nothing. You get it,

1069
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: and yesterday you weren't, and today you are and tomorrow

1070
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: or not, No, we're done. People get shell shocked. That

1071
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: to me has always been the point of no return.

1072
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: At the end of this can wear off if and when,

1073
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: however sees or decides and if that were to happen, well,

1074
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: what am I? Where am I? It's all going on.

1075
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: It's all good with back too. Are you happy with

1076
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: who you are and what you did? Are you at

1077
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: a point where you are okay? Do you know you?

1078
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: And are you okay with you? If you are not,

1079
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: it'll break you.

1080
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: Your energy is incredible and just the depth. What I

1081
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: love about this and this was my vision with the show,

1082
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: and you are helping me achieve that, which I'm very

1083
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: grateful for, is I don't think and I love that

1084
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: you've been doing this more and more with the audible

1085
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: with heart to heart, like we're getting to see your depth,

1086
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: We're getting to see the mind behind you again, As

1087
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: we said earlier, we like to limit people. We like

1088
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: to limit people into like you just be a comedian,

1089
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 2: or you just be a race car driver, or you

1090
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: just be an actor. And it's like we're starting to

1091
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: realize that, like you said, you're not just watching someone's

1092
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: life on TV, there's a human here's there's a story here,

1093
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: and we're getting that with you. Do you think it

1094
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: was was this something? Was this an epiphany that you

1095
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: had before the accident, or was it that this really

1096
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: because in your audible when you talk about like how

1097
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: when it's just silent you figure out what really matters?

1098
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: Like when I heard that, I was just thinking, like

1099
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: all near death experiences, you were told when you came

1100
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: out of it you should be dead, and you're like, well,

1101
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything. Does that feel like that was

1102
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: a moment that there is a massive awakening or were

1103
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: you already kind of working with some of this? No.

1104
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: I I was always a transparent and authoric person. But

1105
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: you definitely change, that's what you. You definitely change, and

1106
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: by the way, still changing. I'm not sitting in front

1107
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: of you, yes, as a meating, flawed man. I am

1108
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: my dad's child. And my mother's child as well. There's

1109
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: nothing more humbling than a quiet room. There's nothing more

1110
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: humbling then the realization of what is really necessary, what

1111
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: you take for granted, and what we don't think twice

1112
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: about is not until that's compromise that the true appreciation

1113
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: for life, I feel like, and sometimes we had. I

1114
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: don't want to speak for everybody, because I think there

1115
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: are some people that truly do get it, and that

1116
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: truly do think whatever their space or version of a

1117
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: higher power is daily for life and for what they do.

1118
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: You know, I believe in God, so I'm not as

1119
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: spiritual as some may be, but I'm very thankful for

1120
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: the life that God has allowed me to live and

1121
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: the opportunities that I've been able to embark upon. But

1122
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: I got a lot more appreciation after life was almost gone, right,

1123
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: Like you appreciate your toes, you really appreciate your fingers,

1124
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: Like do you really think about your movement, your joints, vision, smell?

1125
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: Do you really think about how fortunate and lucky you are?

1126
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: It's the only time where I get a little where

1127
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: I slow up, right, And when when I'm slowing up

1128
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: is because the reality of that was significant. I really

1129
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: almost died my kids and all that. Like, what as

1130
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm moving so fast, I didn't even have everything dialed

1131
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: up for if said things were to happen. Oh, because

1132
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm out here, I'm just Roman. I'm out here aimlessly living,

1133
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: and I'm moving so fast. I've yet to grasp the

1134
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: true concept and reality of responsibility. Immediately. Let me get

1135
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: my responsibilities in order, because if that had have been,

1136
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: it would have been a lot of people with their

1137
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: hands up as to what how when fame is great,

1138
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: the lights are great? Heart Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart, and

1139
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: one of one of one God was in that room.

1140
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: My goddamn wife, my brother, my kids. You look around.

1141
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: You got a lot of friends, You got a lot

1142
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: of people to love you. But then you start, well

1143
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: what really matters. That's when my mindset started to change.

1144
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: That's when you go, Okay, my approach to just me

1145
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: and working on me, it needs to be different. I've

1146
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: contradicted myself a lot since you know, I want to

1147
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: slow down. I'm to make sure I get my family

1148
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: more time I have. That doesn't mean that there can't

1149
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: be more. The day to day battle of am I

1150
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: giving enough? Am I? Guys? You know how much Dad

1151
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: loves you. I'm here, I'm like you know, always working

1152
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: to make sure to do more. But is it enough?

1153
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: My workaholic? Okay, but that's not a bad thing because

1154
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: you love the work. Yes, you do. That's passion you get.

1155
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: You got something that you go after every day. That

1156
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: is a driving source for me. I'm not in the

1157
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: business of letting that go. But or you better put

1158
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: your hands on these people and make sure. You better

1159
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: make sure that you are giving the time that you

1160
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: said you would when you were in that time of solace. Okay,

1161
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: all right, I'm constantly talking to myself. I had these

1162
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: conversations all the time. That's the beauty of taking my

1163
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: little runs, the beauty of working out, being in the gym.

1164
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: You talk to yourself. You better talk to yourself. You

1165
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: better have conversations, figure out a ying and yang of

1166
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: good and bad. For me, it was about personal evolvement

1167
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: after that accident and still trying. Man, it's the biggest battle.

1168
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,479
Speaker 1: It's the big The biggest battle is just doing right

1169
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: all the time. That's a battle.

1170
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: And knowing you're gonna get it wrong.

1171
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: That's a battle. Man. When I go to a restaurant

1172
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: and they bring out a plate the way, just say

1173
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: it all the time. Don't touch that plate to play hot.

1174
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: You know what I do, Jay, You know what I

1175
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: say after I touch it. It wasn't it hot. They

1176
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: told me not to touch the plate. He said it's hot,

1177
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: But I still gotta I still gotta go and touch

1178
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: the plate anyway. It's a battle. So being okay with

1179
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: understanding that I'm going to lose and win in this battle,

1180
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: and this battle is not over until the day I'm

1181
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: in the ground. Because you're not gonna get it right.

1182
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get it right. And there's people with

1183
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: this idea and his mindset of mentality. They're gonna get

1184
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 1: right and everything's gonna be perfect. It's not. Don't play

1185
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: that perfect game because all you will do is get

1186
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: let down because perfection does not exist. I do firmly

1187
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: stand on that and believe that it doesn't exist. Man,

1188
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: you should try your hardest to get things right. In

1189
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: moments where you got them wrong, figure out how to

1190
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: never get them wrong again. That's the world of compromise,

1191
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: that's the world of growth, that's the world of evolvement.

1192
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a teenage daughter, nobody prepared me

1193
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 1: for the world of you know, like you're talking about,

1194
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: got to get it right. Are we talking enough? Am

1195
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: I loving enough? Am my present? Am I listening? Am

1196
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: I just delegating? Am my parenting? Am I your friend?

1197
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: And there's so much teenage son, little ones, I mean,

1198
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: my wife. It's a constant battle of energy and as

1199
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: a guy who is an output, right, and I don't

1200
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: complain about that output, but those that I'm taking in

1201
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: from I just gotta I gotta make sure that I'm

1202
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: receiving that and that I'm not I'm not hallassing or

1203
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: moving too fast. I'm not making the most of those moments.

1204
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: And that's this level of consciousness I did not have

1205
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: before the accident. I was, I was one thousand miles

1206
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: per hour, and not that I'm not still moving fast,

1207
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: but I look at my peripheral I'm looking at my

1208
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: rearview mirrors, slowing down, I'm stopping, I'm sleeping, you know

1209
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I'm there is a difference. I

1210
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: know there's a difference, but it's still a battle. Still

1211
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: a battle. Yeah.

1212
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: I love that you describe it like a battle, because

1213
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: what you just described is exactly the practice we have

1214
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: to have every day, which is you have to revisit

1215
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: how do I get it right today? There isn't a

1216
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: day where now you just get it right. From now

1217
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: to the end of time. It's revisiting that every day,

1218
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: saying I'm recommitting to this, I'm going to be a

1219
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: good dad today. Right. You don't get to make a

1220
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: decision to be a good dad in ten years. You

1221
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: got to do today and then you do tomorrow. And

1222
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: I think that what's really interesting. The reason why I

1223
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: asked that question too, was because I think memory is

1224
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: such an interesting thing. Sometimes when something big happens to us,

1225
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 2: we feel the shift that this is going to change

1226
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: how I think, and then all of a sudden, when

1227
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: things go back to normality, it can sometimes feel as

1228
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: if it never happened. But it sounds like for you, you've

1229
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: really used it as an anchor. Well, yeah, you've used it.

1230
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: Even when you say, like you said, like I'm going

1231
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: to be a good dad today, right, you can only

1232
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: try your best.

1233
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: Try your best, yeah, to do that.

1234
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: Ultimately, just because you say you're a good dad, don't

1235
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: make you a good dad, No, of course not. Just

1236
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: as you say you're a good boss, don't make you

1237
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: a good boss. I can say it every day, I

1238
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: can think I'm doing it, but if on the opposite side,

1239
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: if I'm viewed differently, well that will be because I'm

1240
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: doing something wrong and I'm not aware. What I now

1241
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: do is make sure that I'm looking at things through

1242
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: both lenses, not on one side of POV. It's not

1243
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: it's not just my perception of what I'm doing and

1244
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: how everybody else should see it. And doing that. The

1245
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: way that I try my best to back up the

1246
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: hope of me being perceived is that it is by

1247
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: putting the true work in to be there, making sure

1248
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: that I'm really engaged with the other people, making sure

1249
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: that there's a rapport, that there's energy, and you know,

1250
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: the wife and kids, the same thing, making sure that

1251
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 1: there's a rapport, that there's you know, I'm asking the

1252
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: questions and I'm getting the answers, but I'm I'm asking

1253
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: for things so I can get the proper feedback, so

1254
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: that if I do need to adjust, or if I

1255
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: do need to fix, at least I'm aware. Operating with

1256
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: the assumption that you are or that you're doing it

1257
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: can be a crutch like it can be It can

1258
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: be a bad thing if I'm operating with the assumption,

1259
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: because one day you'll wake up and they'll go. You know,

1260
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: I never liked when or where acted as a problem

1261
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: for me for all these was when you and then

1262
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: you just go, I never knew you never say nothing. Yeah,

1263
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: And sometimes people don't want to say anything. Sometimes people

1264
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: don't know how to say anything. So the world of dialogue,

1265
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: communication and just openness is what I think I've gotten

1266
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: better at over the time. But once again, what it's

1267
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: a it's a constant space of improvement. Yeah, you're constantly

1268
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: trying to improve.

1269
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that's that is the only way

1270
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: it can be. There is no other alternative. And there's

1271
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 2: a beautiful conversation between the Buddha and a student that

1272
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: I love, and the student approaches the Buddha and says,

1273
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: what's the difference between I like you and I love you?

1274
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: And the Buddha says, when you like a flower, you

1275
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: simply pluck it, But when you love a flower, you

1276
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: water it every day. And I'm like that to me,

1277
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Speaker 2: is what you're describing that when I love my kids,

1278
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: I have to be trying every day to understand from

1279
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: their point of view, the flower is gonna show you

1280
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: whether you're watering or not, it's gonna die. It's gonna

1281
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 2: will is not bloom or whatever it may be. And

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: I feel like you've got to be so in tune

1283
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: with yourself and someone else in order to sense that.

1284
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: But I know what you're saying is so true, and

1285
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: I really do recommend this to anyone who's a big

1286
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 2: fan of Kevin's as I am, please do go listen

1287
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: to the audiobook, because monsters and how to Tame Them?

1288
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I have never heard someone be as open

1289
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 2: and transparent as you are in it. And you're so

1290
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 2: open about all your flaws. And there's one thing that

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: you say here that again just I was like, I

1292
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: have to talk to you about this because it was

1293
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: just it stuck with me. And you talk about it

1294
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: and you say, you know, and you're just talking about

1295
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: the fame, and that's that's what the idea came for.

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Speaker 2: You're just talking about how fame makes you feel invincible.

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Speaker 2: And then when you talk about getting caught cheating, and

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01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 2: you're like, I was in that frame of mind where

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01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: I was like, it can't happen to me, right, It's

1300
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 2: not possible, And then you open up about it so raw,

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: and in my head I'm thinking, what is it about

1302
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: the monster that gets you to do things even that

1303
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 2: are against your own values? Right, like the months to

1304
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: get so strong that you go as far as that

1305
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 2: and when you get caught, you go that was an awakening,

1306
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: but it still doesn't wake you up fully. Right, there's

1307
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: there's there's a limitation to walk us through that.

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Speaker 1: Well. I mean, look, you're talking about fame, you're talking

1309
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: about power, right, and that idea of invincible Once again,

1310
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: this is a this is a thing that a very

1311
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: small percentage of people are going to be able to

1312
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: experience or understand right. And it's very easy from the

1313
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: outside looking in to go or how or I don't

1314
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: believe or how can right? But from the other side,

1315
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 1: not that it's right. First of all, wrong is wrong.

1316
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: You're never gonna hear me try to justify or excuse.

1317
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: Wrong is wrong. But in being wrong sometimes comes with

1318
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: world of situation, the world of opportunity. Right, if you

1319
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: constantly around bad apples and you're hungry and people keep saying,

1320
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: don't eat these apples, some people are gonna be able

1321
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: to hold off. You have some people that are gonna

1322
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 1: pick up that apple and bite it. It's not right.

1323
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: It's not something that's justifiable to some what's the worst

1324
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. I'm gonna eat it and then what

1325
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 1: I'll probably be sick for a second and I'll throw

1326
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: up it. Then I'll be fine. Well, that apple kills you,

1327
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: but your way of looking at it in that moment,

1328
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. The idea that comes with that level

1329
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: of success and that comes with opportunity based on situation,

1330
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: is one that you look at is I'll be fine

1331
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: as easy as nothing with it. It's not to your

1332
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: hands in the pot and you get burned or cord

1333
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know that you gotta sit down and

1334
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: then you gotta think about it. You got to you

1335
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: gotta look at it, and then you realize the layers

1336
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: that are attached to it. And that's when the life

1337
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: changing side of thought happens. Right, and then it becomes

1338
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: about you and how you look at yourself. How do

1339
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: you view yourself and what do you expect from yourself? Right,

1340
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: it's bigger than just the partner of course that you

1341
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: want to respect. It's also about you and how you

1342
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: want to be viewed at that point, Like, what's important.

1343
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: Where are you at? Where are you at? With you

1344
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: and that mirror. You get to look into that mirror.

1345
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: You know if you are right, but what you're looking

1346
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: at and you're fine, flawed and all in all right.

1347
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: Getting older to put you in a position to where

1348
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 1: you just start to look at yourself and you're talking

1349
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: about the complete finished product that is and will be you.

1350
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: Those are the moments that you just got to do

1351
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: your best to not only overcome, but just get by.

1352
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: And you know, once again, it's a battle, right marriage, love.

1353
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: You got to learn it, and at a young age,

1354
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: when you're embedded into it, you're not going to get

1355
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: it right. You gotta learn it. It's unfortunate how the

1356
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: lessons come from whichever side however it happens. But when

1357
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: learned or when taking as serious as it can be,

1358
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: of course you reap the benefits and you see how

1359
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: amazing it is. But you know, I wasn't that smart,

1360
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to act as if I was.

1361
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: And that's from my first marriage to that.

1362
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Speaker 2: It's is it hard to forgiving yourself or is it

1363
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 2: hard to asking for forgiveness?

1364
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: I think it's I could be hard on myself. I

1365
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: can stand in the fire having another person do it.

1366
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: That's where it gets tough, right, Like you throw rocks

1367
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 1: at me all day when the other person is in there.

1368
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a different level. And the mistakes

1369
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: that I've made in my life, the biggest side of

1370
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: kind consequence has always been the effect that it's had

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Speaker 1: on others. I'll figure it out and do my best

1372
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: to evolve and grow and however that has to happen

1373
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:18,799
Speaker 1: with me. But I can't dictate how you would receive

1374
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: and how you would handle or how you would do. So,

1375
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: you know, watching other people hurt, that's never good. I

1376
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: think that would be ever the toughest side of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's a really thoughtful Lonso man. Yeah, I

1378
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 2: feel like that's that genuine compassionate heart saying I know

1379
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: I can figure my way out, or why would I

1380
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 2: put someone in that situation where they have to figure

1381
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 2: it out for themselves. It was someone was reading me

1382
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: a quote the other day and it was like saying,

1383
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 2: how it was Nietzsche who was saying I wish pain

1384
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: and suffering on anyone because that's what helps them grow.

1385
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Speaker 2: And I was like, hold off, Yeah, I was like

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01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: I would not wish Jesus. I was like, yeah, there

1387
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Speaker 2: was someone ready out to me and I was like,

1388
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Speaker 2: I was like, I can't subscribe to that.

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Speaker 1: That a lot.

1390
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: It was a lot. I was like, you can't wish

1391
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: pain and suffering under anyone, because even though we know

1392
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 2: you grow through tough things, and you've grown through so

1393
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: many tough things that were not your choice and then

1394
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,839
Speaker 2: some things that were your choice, but we shouldn't expect

1395
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: that other people can navigate those situations.

1396
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Speaker 1: It's good when you say, like, you know the choices

1397
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 1: that you make. Right And because of our times today,

1398
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: the world of what one does or has done is

1399
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: amplified because we're in a position where everybody can have

1400
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: an opinion and there's a space to voice said opinion. Right,

1401
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dumb it down and I'm going to go

1402
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: to the lowest level right now, when people do some

1403
01:19:52,479 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: of the dumbest mistakes from crime, theft, deadly, cheating, all

1404
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: of the go all around. Who has vetted out the consequences.

1405
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 1: Nobody has sat and vetted out the consequences. Right. Everybody

1406
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: has robbed the bank as a tip to rob a

1407
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: bank because they found it to be a very easy thing,

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01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: and I'm going here twelve o'clock. That man going break,

1409
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: he going break. I'm gonna go in there and while

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01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: he don't break, I'm gonna get the money, and then

1411
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna come out. All we gotta do is get

1412
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: back before he get back from lunch, and we we

1413
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: we got it. And they go in rob the bank.

1414
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: The alarms go off, inc blow up on the money.

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01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: They don't know nothing, they don't know. They get locked

1416
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: up and they say something crazy like, yo, I ain't

1417
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: want I ain't mean to do this, and the world

1418
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: goes what you man ain't mean to do it? You

1419
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: rob the bank? No, some people are Some thoughts are

1420
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: that simplistic. Some actions are just that stupid and they're

1421
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: not thought out. But everything is not that deep. Everything

1422
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: to not have that many layers to the mistake. When

1423
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: the mistake happened, I'm grounded in the world of reality.

1424
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: Everything that I have done in my mind, I attached

1425
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: a piece of logic and made it made sense to me.

1426
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: You can make anything make sense to you if you

1427
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: want it to. And sometimes it's not until consequences present

1428
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: themselves that you realize the idiotic way to thinking or

1429
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: the idiotic approach to what you feel you can do

1430
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: the bigger than the world like mentality, humbling is something

1431
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: that has to happen. You can either welcome it or not,

1432
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 1: or we're all privy to it. Minds is count and

1433
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: and different doses, shapes and sizes. Man, But I just

1434
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to say I don't like I

1435
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: think the thing that like. It Just you have to

1436
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: shake your head. It's not even worth the battle and conversation.

1437
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: It's simple, Yeah it's not. Yeah, it's not deeply thought through.

1438
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: Just not deeply thought through. I was watching Biden and

1439
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: there's a clip of Biden. But Biden says, and this

1440
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,440
Speaker 1: is I probably watched this clip. I'm not into politics

1441
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: at all. But Biden goes, I got something important I

1442
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: want to say in the whole world needs to hear it.

1443
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: I need everybody to listen right now. And he takes

1444
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: a beat, he goes, I forget it for president of

1445
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: the United States. Nobody Biden didn't mean to do that.

1446
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Bida didn't go up there and say I'm gonna set

1447
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: up for the best joke, and in the middle of

1448
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: it goes I say it to say it was it's

1449
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: something later that he went and watched. God, I'm sorry,

1450
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: he apologized. I'm sorry. I know, I know, I know. Guys,

1451
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sorry. Like he didn't mean it,

1452
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: he didn't plan it. I hope I hope my way

1453
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: of making my point makes sense.

1454
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 2: It makes sense.

1455
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: I hope I hope that I'm articulating you are correctly.

1456
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 1: I'm saying that there's no excuses there. There should never

1457
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: be any excuses. Wrong is wrong, problems are forever. I'm

1458
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: saying that I don't like it when people tell you

1459
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: how you thought about something and you go, wasn't necessary.

1460
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even it wasn't that. Nope, I just I

1461
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: kind of just I just walked down there. I didn't

1462
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: even know that there was Yeah, do you think you

1463
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: just walked? Did you get out the bed? Did you

1464
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: put on those boots on purpose? Nope? I just there's

1465
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: actually no, I didn't. That's not what I did. It's like,

1466
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, some thoughts are not that

1467
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: deep in that layer.

1468
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the difference I've found between being critical

1469
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 2: and being a critical thinker. Everyone's critical today where it's

1470
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 2: just we try and find the flow and what you're

1471
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: encouraging through this book, through your work, and what we're

1472
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: encouraging here on this platform is critical thinking. Let's be

1473
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: open to the fact it could be really basic, it

1474
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: could be really deep, it could be somewhere in between,

1475
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: and most likely you have no idea because you're not

1476
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: that person. Right, You didn't do that, You didn't have

1477
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: to live through that.

1478
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: It's a very slippery slope to go down when you

1479
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: talk about it, because, like I said, you're in a

1480
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: time everybody knows everything. Everybody's the smartest person in the

1481
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: room today. Yeah, that's a that's an amazing thing to me.

1482
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:02,440
Speaker 1: Like everybody's right all the time. You're telling me nobody's

1483
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: wrong today, everybody, do you understand we're in a time

1484
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: where everybody's right, everybody knows everything, everybody is the smartest

1485
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: person in the world. I call them the best coaches

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Speaker 1: that have never won a championship. People don't think about

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01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: that enough. I mean, it's something that we're eventually going

1488
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 1: to have to get out of. The world of anxiety

1489
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: and mental health is at the highest level just that

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01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: it's ever been. It's on the front page. I wasn't

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01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: aware of mental health at the at the level that

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01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: it is pre pandemic. I had no idea that existed

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01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: at the level and that so many people suffered. I

1494
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: had no idea about the battles of real depression or

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01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: real day to day I had no idea. But with

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01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 1: that time did it put it on the forefront, and

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01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: you get to see how people are truly battling, battling

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01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 1: on a day to day based off of perception, doubt,

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01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: and how they feel based off of what I think.

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01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: You think like, that's a scary thing. It's a scary thing,

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01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,839
Speaker 1: and you know, I can only be transparent and authentic

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01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: and hopes that people will find it is what it is. Man,

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01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: be you unapologetically and as you are correcting or fixing

1504
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: or evolving in you understanding, you got a dope thing

1505
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: to look back at. And that's the old you versus

1506
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: the new attempt in who you are trying to be.

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01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: That to me is beautiful. Every piece of art that

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01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: I look at that I love, that I embraced. There's

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01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: nothing better than looking at it from the start. What

1510
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: did it start out as every house that gets built?

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01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: What did it start out as every car that gets built?

1512
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: What did it start out as clothes that we wear.

1513
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 1: What was the design in the beginning? Everything has stages

1514
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: of growth. Why in today's time are we forgetting that?

1515
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 1: Why are we forgetting that and expecting an immediate space

1516
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: of perfection. I didn't know the babies come out the

1517
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 1: womb and know it all off the back. I thought

1518
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: they have to be taught the way that we're talking today.

1519
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: That's tough. It's tough. So I tried my best to

1520
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: remove myself from as much as I can. I tried

1521
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: myself to act as a aid for laughter, happiness, joy,

1522
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: and I can only hope that the conversation attached to

1523
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: my name would be one of good. I can't control it.

1524
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: If it is great, man, If it isn't, I tried.

1525
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. Yeah, that's where my mind sett

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01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: as today. Jay.

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01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 2: Well, when I listened to your audiobook, which I felt

1528
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: was a very intimate take on you as a human,

1529
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 2: not as an entertainer, I can honestly say that I

1530
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: walked away from it saying to my friends and people

1531
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 2: that I speak to, going, you know what, Kevin didn't

1532
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: have to do that. That's how I felt when I

1533
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: listened to I was like Kevin didn't have to do that,

1534
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 2: Like he's successful, he's winning, he's great at what he does.

1535
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 2: He didn't have to create anything to talk about his

1536
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: flaws like you just didn't have to do that. And

1537
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 2: to me, that's why I respect and admire you, because

1538
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: when I heard that, I was like, well, if he's

1539
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: happy to go there and he's happy to talk about

1540
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: how these monsters never die and he's happy to talk

1541
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: about how he's still dealing with them. I find it

1542
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: to be some of your most meaningful work, at least

1543
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: in the work I do, of course, And I don't

1544
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: want to feed your approval months to read them, but

1545
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: you know, like I really feel that way, Like I

1546
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: really feel that way.

1547
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: There's a place that you get to in life right

1548
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: when you start to you started like what did I do?

1549
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1550
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: And what did I do?

1551
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Right?

1552
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Like what's And it doesn't mean like you healed the

1553
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: world or you you know, change world created this year

1554
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: like this, I'm not I'm not saying it for those answers,

1555
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: but for you, like the questions like what do I do?

1556
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: And I'm at a place where okay, outside of the

1557
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 1: success and the famers, like what am I? What do

1558
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: I want? What am I doing right? And the information

1559
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: that I now have the opportunity to give, like the information,

1560
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: if nothing else, the information. If you really want to

1561
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: have impact, you want to try to position yourself to

1562
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: help create the opportunities for change. Financial literacy in the

1563
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: black community, not understanding banking, haven't known it. My alignment

1564
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 1: would Chase and and and JP Morgan. My but my

1565
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: why that there's a why attached to it? Okay, I'm, I'm.

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01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: This is a reason I got. I got something bigger

1567
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: than my famous success. Okay, this is a passion and

1568
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: something that we're trying to correct. Okay. In the space

1569
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: of inspiration motivation, there's a passion attached to me trying

1570
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 1: to simply inspire and motivate those that just simply aren't

1571
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: getting motivating messages on a day to day because some

1572
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: households just don't do it. Some may not have the

1573
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: households that do it. I didn't grow up in a

1574
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: mom and dad, the dinner every night, the family prayer

1575
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 1: at the table. I didn't have that. That's not my life.

1576
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: There's other people that do have it. There's some people

1577
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: that just them in their mom, them in their dad.

1578
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: Some people don't have anybody, whatever that thing is, you

1579
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: don't know who's pulling from what to try to get

1580
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: to wear like we have no idea. So if I

1581
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: can now act as a aid, that is giving you

1582
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: nothing but verbal warfare attached to truth and authenticity. If

1583
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: I'm giving you and adults and gems that are attached

1584
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 1: to a real life concept like this isn't it's not

1585
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: made up. I'm giving you simple information based off of

1586
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: me and my battles. I just told you there's no

1587
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 1: handbook for fame yet, and still I'm giving you, in

1588
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, something that can be camouflaged

1589
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: as an example of how I had to handle a

1590
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: just deal. I have an opportunity to have an on

1591
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 1: season and off season. My on season is movies, maybe

1592
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,879
Speaker 1: a stand up comedy tour maybe not. My off season.

1593
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,440
Speaker 1: I can go and I can I can be a

1594
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: speaker at I can talk to companies about I can

1595
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 1: go to said conventions and give X, Y and Z

1596
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: that's used to simply amplify, motivating and spot whatever those

1597
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: things are. Once again, I'm creating another door attached to

1598
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: a piece of passion that I discovered. I discovered this.

1599
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: I didn't set out to do it. I discovered it

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01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: and those that I see doing it. You know when

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01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: Will right now, Will Smith, good friend of mine. You know,

1602
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: Will's book had a tremendous amount of success. Will sold

1603
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 1: a million books. It's not just because of the Will

1604
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: Smith factor. Will Smith is telling you the truth. Hey man,

1605
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: you guys got the glitz and glamor of gold from

1606
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 1: the perception that I gave you without ever really pulling

1607
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: the veil back to show you everything else that was

1608
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: back here. I can't hold it no more. I was

1609
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: in this business fo thirty years or whatever. I cannot.

1610
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to get to that point, so I

1611
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: do it all the time. It's still going, You're still working.

1612
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: But I promise you there's a person that will listen

1613
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: to this, that will understand it, and that will go.

1614
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: You know what, man, shouldn't be afraid to be who

1615
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: you are. If I can embody and embed the space

1616
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: of confidence for others to make people understand how dope

1617
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: it is to simply believe that you can do whatever

1618
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: you put your mind to. If I can help and

1619
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 1: just giving you that push, I did my part self

1620
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:15,440
Speaker 1: confidence and belief. That's how dreams get met. Self confidence

1621
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 1: and belief. That's how you check off goals. That's how

1622
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: you march towards whatever your versions of success are.

1623
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 2: With a sprinkle of that humility.

1624
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: That's it.

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01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin, it has been such a joy talking to

1626
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 2: you today.

1627
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: We end with five foss questions. These have to be

1629
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 2: answered in one sentence. Sorry, sorry, one sentence, one sentence

1630
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: only for each answert All right, Kevin Hard, these are

1631
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 2: your final five. Question One, what is the best advice

1632
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: you've ever received?

1633
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Don't be local? Big logo Chris Rock. Yeah, do not

1634
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: be a local comedian? Love that make the world laugh.

1635
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,839
Speaker 2: Second question, what is the worst advice You've ever received

1636
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 2: or heard?

1637
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: Worst advice I've ever received? The herd is, sometimes you

1638
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 1: got to make a studio respect you. He said, don't

1639
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: give long answers. After this, I'll summarize it was based

1640
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: off It was based off of, you know, after you

1641
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: get to a place in acting where you become number

1642
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 1: one on the call sheet, if a studio isn't doing

1643
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: things to your liking, well, you know, sometimes you got

1644
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 1: to not show up. And the reason why I say

1645
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: that's the worst advice that I've ever seved, I'm straightforward

1646
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,600
Speaker 1: businessman and always have been. And the road of negotiation

1647
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 1: can be simplified, doesn't have to be the game of

1648
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: back and forth in true war. Right, So being in

1649
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 1: a room and having a face to face conversation with

1650
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 1: foundation of understanding of what you want versus what I want,

1651
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: you can succeed a lot more. And I've never not

1652
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: done that. All opportunities, all business, all relationships have flourished

1653
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 1: because of an understanding of communication that I've done in

1654
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: the room, whether it be my team, studio, studio me,

1655
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: my team. That that to me has allowed me to

1656
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 1: achieve much more success than allowing other people to talk

1657
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: for me, and other things to be elongated and go

1658
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: on and on, and you end up with a perceptionist

1659
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: not of you that's created based off of the idea

1660
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: of what people think you are because of the way

1661
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: that you've handled business.

1662
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 2: And what's great about that is it breaks the pattern

1663
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 2: so that other talent don't get that same advice absolute

1664
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 2: so that then it keeps perpetuating the patent and now

1665
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 2: twenty five years from now, your kids having to deal

1666
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 2: with it because that was the pattern that you continued

1667
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,759
Speaker 2: and set. So yeah, I love that question. Number three,

1668
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 2: How would you define your current purpose?

1669
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: My current purpose is about embracing the world of wei

1670
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: and making the Wei bigger than the idea of me.

1671
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 1: And that's for anybody in the position of you know,

1672
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: whatever your version of star success is, it's embracing the

1673
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,719
Speaker 1: world of we, making other people feel like they can,

1674
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: creating opportunities, you know, changing the economy by broadening your

1675
01:35:55,240 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: businesses and more jobs, more opportunities, et cetera. We right, more, father,

1676
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: how do we have more success? More wins?

1677
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 2: Question numb before? What's something you used to value that

1678
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:08,799
Speaker 2: you don't value anymore?

1679
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: The world of approval that you can't control. I can't

1680
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: control what the world thinks or what people thinks. And

1681
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 1: I thought that I could. I thought that I could

1682
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: do everything to show you that I'm a good guy,

1683
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: nice guy, trying to do that because that's naturally what

1684
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: you are, who you are, and you want people to

1685
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 1: know that. But you can't control that. You can't control it.

1686
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 1: So one thing that I do not need is the

1687
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: idea or understanding that everybody loves you. Yeah, right, I

1688
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: don't need that. And once upon a time I thought

1689
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: that I did. There was a fear of what people

1690
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: don't like me. Why would I do? I didn't do,

1691
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:50,759
Speaker 1: and that's that's not the case anymore.

1692
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 2: That's incredible, all right. Fifth to final question. We asked

1693
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 2: this every guest. If you could create one law that

1694
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 2: everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be?

1695
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: Practice what you preach?

1696
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 2: H that's a great load.

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Speaker 1: Very simple. Yeah, practice be a definition of what you preach. Right,

1698
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: it's easy. It's easy to have words. It's easy to say.

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01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 1: It's harder to do. Yeah. I would love to see

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01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,719
Speaker 1: a world of more doers than sayers.

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01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 2: Everyone, Kevin hat I know you already watched the movie,

1702
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: has already watched the specials. Keep doing that, but please

1703
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 2: do not miss out on what's going on inside the

1704
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 2: mind of this human and don't miss out on everything

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01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 2: else that's happening around building this mindset of we I

1706
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 2: want you to show Kevin a lot of love from

1707
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 2: our on Purpose community. Please tag us on whatever social

1708
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 2: media platform you use, sharing the greatest moments, insights, nuggets

1709
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 2: of wisdom from Kevin. There was so many great gems

1710
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 2: that he dropped today. I want to make sure that

1711
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 2: you screenshot the episode, share it everywhere that you share,

1712
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 2: and make sure that we see that because I love

1713
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 2: seeing the ideas that resonate with you, that stick with you.

1714
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 2: But most import the ones you apply, the ones you practice,

1715
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 2: the ones you put into your own reality and start

1716
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 2: seeing changes in your life. Kevin, thank you for being

1717
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,759
Speaker 2: such a generous guest, such a present guest. I've felt

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01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 2: every question I've asked you. I've felt your presence and

1719
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 2: felt your energy, and You've just brought it tonight, man,

1720
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful to you, and that was so

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01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:20,759
Speaker 2: special and beautiful.

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01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,560
Speaker 1: I hope you'll come back, and man, I want to

1723
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 1: say thank you. And you've created such an amazing environment

1724
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: of comfort to your community, and you just speaking to

1725
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 1: your community way that you do, You've built something amazing.

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01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: And you know, when I'm talking about being in the

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01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: space of trying to motivate, inspire or push however I

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01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: can you know you do it now on a daily

1729
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: people come here and they're leaving with a sense of

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01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: feel good. So congrats again, man, But I hope you

1731
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 1: truly understand like the real work that you're doing and

1732
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: that you've done, and the guests that you get here,

1733
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: they're coming here for a reason because we who are

1734
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 1: listening to you, and we're we're taking away anecdotes like

1735
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: your mindset, your perspective as a man, watching you as

1736
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 1: a husband with your kids, like you. As we pull

1737
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: from that, right, you find energy and motivation to seeing

1738
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 1: people do it correctly. So please continue to be the

1739
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: example that you are and and and put your life

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01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: on display at the level you do. Man, the right

1741
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: people are watching, and I hope that you continue to

1742
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: get the response that you're doing well.

1743
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep coming to you and I need help too,

1744
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 2: just know that, but I appreciate it coming from you. Man.

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01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 2: Very empowering, honestly very empowering.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean every word. Man,