1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: I might ask you a question and you're not gonna 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: hurt my feelings by your answer. I have fourteen movies? 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Am I a real actor? 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: You have fourteen movies that can't be true. 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 3: I know Shazam. 6 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I am aware of Shazam. 7 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 3: Oh, hold on Kazam, Cazam. 8 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Eleven other movies. I play Shack. So you know, my 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: friends always go, you got fourteen movie, but you're not 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: really an actor? Some do you can send me an actor? 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Hold on time out? 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. I did a pig, big big, pell me to wig. 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: I did a pig, big, big, singing a kid. I 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 4: have a pig, big big, pull me to win. I 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 4: do a pig, big big, sing it a kid. I 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: have a pig. I do a big, big big say 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 4: it again, I do a pig. 18 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, a deal? 19 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: What is up? What is good? How you living? How 20 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: you feeling? How you doing? It? Is the big podcast 21 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: with Shack where we always do it big. I have 22 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: never seen this many people in the Shahoka Lounge. So 23 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: that's how you know it's a big deal. May I 24 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: give our big time guest a big time introduction. 25 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 26 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: She is a force, a trailblazer, a true work of art. 27 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: A storyteller who sends shockwaves through your mind and your heart. 28 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: America captivated by her work in Scandal. Just something about 29 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: Olivia Pope saying it's handled. A fearless voice, a fashion icon, 30 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: a trailblazer with grace, She's conquered TV film. Her star 31 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: level is deep space, from ray to Django, from Say 32 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: the Last Dance to now Shadow Force. How does she 33 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: do it? Let's go straight to the source. In the 34 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: Shahooka Lounge today, we welcome brilliant strength and undeniable royalty. 35 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: Put your hands together for Carrie Washington. Everybody that was big, 36 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: that was big, Well you're you're Nige fam. 37 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: I just want to say that this is probably one 38 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of the best days of my life. I'm sitting here 39 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: because one of my best friends is over your shoulder. 40 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: You ain't shit, And I was like, why Carrie comes 41 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: to town and you want to dress up? You want 42 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: to go in your closet and put on your pink. 43 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: Shirt, Like, Okay, I'm very impressed, So thank you for coming, 44 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: thank you for having me. It's so special to be here. 45 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: I got any you d MS one time, and he did, 46 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: and people thought I was being fresh. But I've never 47 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: seen a show like Scandal. It was so impressive. I 48 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: wanted to give you your props. My question was is 49 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: it coming back? So that's my first question, was Scandal 50 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: coming back? 51 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think we have another 52 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: series in US. But there have been some grumblings about, 53 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: like what would it look like to have a Scandal movie? 54 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: Would you be open to that? 55 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Okay, as long as I can play command? 56 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: You want to play command? What would I say to 57 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: Jim Morton? 58 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: You're fired? 59 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: So you're a binger? So what was it about that 60 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: show that got you hooked? And how long did it 61 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: take you to watch the series? 62 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Because I realized I needed somebody like that in my 63 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: life and I found someone based on your show? 64 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: Did you find the real Olivia Both? 65 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 6: No? 66 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: But I found a fixer? 67 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 68 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: So when I was watching that show, I was like, 69 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: is this real? And then I looked it up and. 70 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: Was it Judy that you found her? Okay? 71 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: Another guy's name was Glenn Bunting. 72 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Glenn Bunting. 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: So I was watching this. 74 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 3: Show a real thing, yes real? 75 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: The show was inspired by a real woman named Judy Smith, 76 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: who used to work at the White House but never 77 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: slept with the President. She was a black woman who 78 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: was one of the most powerful people in DC, and she. 79 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: Just had all the connections and could. 80 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: Do it and she still does. When Scandal was on 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: the air, I would often get d MS or text 82 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: messages from people I knew or didn't know, being like, 83 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: can you put me in touch with Judy because and 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: I would be like, you don't even have to finish 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: the sentence. I don't even want to know why. I 86 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: will just pass you along to Judy. 87 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: I was watching the show and like, I actually found 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: it by accident. No, I actually no, Actually you found 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: it because of your face. 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 91 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: You're beautiful? And I was like, okay, that's Carrie. Let 92 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: me watch it and then start Shock one, two, three, 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: four or five seasons kept going and kept going and 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: just kept getting attention. 95 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: I remember running into you, do you remember in the 96 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: south of France we ran into each other, I can 97 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: and you were I was sitting at a restaurant outside 98 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: and you were like, leve I remember like my parents 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: about it. I was like, you ran into Shocked today. 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: It was so like a surreal amazing moment. 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: So you face a lot of wild situation, a little 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: screen like if you ever faced anything in real life 103 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: that just just made you cringe and like, you know, 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: make you go crazy, And if you did, how did 105 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: you handle it? 106 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever faced anything quite as dramatic 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: as the stuff Olivia Pope deals with. But I feel 108 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: like parenting is its own insanity. Like I feel like 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: every parent is a little bit the fixer in your household, 110 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: and so I feel like I'm often stretched in the 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: problem solving with my kids of like how do I 112 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: keep these boundaries intact and also give them the freedom 113 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: to be who they need to be? But yeah, I 114 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: mean kids are they you know, especially for us, there's 115 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: three of them. When you're out numbered, you know, it's 116 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: a thing. 117 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, you do know that I only have one, but 118 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 3: I don't know how you do three? One is crazy? 119 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that I mean that was sort of fine. 120 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: I need to ask what would Olivia Pope do? 121 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: Well? That was one of the things that really drew 122 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: me to Shadow Force was this idea of like if 123 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 2: you we all talk about how we would do anything 124 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: for our kids, and you hear people say like, oh, 125 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: I would kill for my kid as like a theoretical idea, 126 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: but to read a script where there are these mercenary 127 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: assassins who have the capacity to actually kill, they kill 128 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: for a living, Yeah, to protect their kids, what would 129 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: they do? And so there was something in the mommy 130 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: instincts that I was like, I really want to take 131 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: this on Jack. 132 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: It comes out May ninth, Mother's Day weekend. Leaders of 133 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: a multinational special forces group called Shadow Force break the 134 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: rules by falling in love, and in order to protect 135 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: their son, they go under ground with large bounties on 136 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: their heads. They pull out all the stops. 137 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: So how did you tap into their role? Did you? 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: Because you're well, imagine all the question is there a 139 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: difference between the actress and the thespia because because you're 140 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: you're you are really good? 141 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh you're so kind. I mean, thespian is just like 142 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: an old world word. So when I hear the word thespine, 143 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: I think of the stage and theater. But yeah, they're 144 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: they're the same thing. 145 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Really, well, how did you tap into their role? Like 146 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: did you have to work out? You have to? 147 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 148 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: It was crazy, Actually was very I've said to people. 149 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: It was one of those moments where I was super 150 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: grateful to be married to a retired athlete right because 151 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: there's a level of discipline that he has around his 152 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: physicality that was very helpful. I had to do a 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: ton of weight training and pilates even just to get 154 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: into shape to learn the fight choreography, and then there 155 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: were hours of fight choreography, fight training, weapons training, because 156 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: we had to learn to shoot guns, clean guns, load guns, 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: carry guns, the stunt work. We had to learn how 158 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: to fall. I had to learn how to drive a boat. 159 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: It was just like park a boat, which is much 160 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: harder than driving a boat. So it was really a 161 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: great challenge for me. It really stretched me. Yeah, I 162 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: like your your co anchor a lot Omar C from Lupin. 163 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: Do you watch Lupin? Oh? You would love it? 164 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: About like a French thief. 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Netflix Lupin Lupin. 166 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: Oh you p I m oh, yes, I watched that. 167 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: I thought it was loopen. 168 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 169 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: Even though she said Omar's last name, I was like, 170 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna Omar. 171 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: The lead in that show is my husband and the 172 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: dad and the movie. So it was fun. Also because 173 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: we started fight training together, which is an incredible way 174 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: to build chemistry with another actor, because you know, when 175 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: you're that physical with somebody, you really have to learn 176 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: how to trust each other, how to communicate. It was fun. 177 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: So how long did the movie take? And were you 178 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: sore after the fight scene? 179 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: So sore? I was sore all the time, Like preparing 180 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: for the movie and shooting the movie. We were sore 181 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: all the time. But I was also so proud, like 182 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: on the movie poster. My son the other day was like, Mom, 183 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: your guns have guns. 184 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 3: So I've heard this about athletes and you and I 185 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: have talked about this where sometimes you have children and 186 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: they're too young to see you maybe at some different peaks. 187 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: And then it's cool when like like we're our four 188 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: friends with Vince Carter. Yeah, he just went into a 189 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 3: bunch of Hall of Fames. Yeah, so his son never 190 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: got to see him play, but now he's watching all 191 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: these clips on YouTube and he's realizing, damn, my dad 192 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: is a baller. Yeah, you haven't that at all with your. 193 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: Kids A little bit. I mean, it's fun. My son 194 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: recently took my son recently went with my husband to 195 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: Raider Stadium in Vegas for an event, and he had, 196 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: you know, he wasn't alive when my husband was playing, 197 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: but to you know, he's such an important raider in 198 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: raider history, and so to go to the stadium with 199 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: him and be there and like see the crowds responding 200 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: to him and see the team responding to him was 201 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: very autograph yesho, very surreal. I remember my daughter because 202 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: my kids are kind of protected from a lot of 203 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: the fame. We've we've tried to do that. So I 204 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: took my daughter a couple of years ago, the last 205 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: time Beyonce was in concert, and we were walking in 206 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: and you would love this. We were walking in and 207 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: people started screaming my name, like Carrie, Carrie. My daughter 208 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: looked at me like I was a freak. Like she 209 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: was like, why do all these people know? All of 210 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: these people know your name? Then people were like Olivia 211 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: Pope and she was like, who is Olivia Pop? Had 212 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: she had never really heard the name, or maybe she 213 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: heard it, but she didn't know it was a name 214 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: so many she didn't know it was a household name. Yeah, 215 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: it was pretty crazy. 216 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: And would you let her watch Scandal? 217 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: No? Not yet. I mean when she's older. My oldest 218 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: is nineteen, so she's seen it, and she's she can 219 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: watch anything I'm in because she's older. But the littles no, 220 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: they're eleven and eight, so no. 221 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: I remember one time because my kids kind of seen 222 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: me play, but not really. So I remember one time 223 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: to the arena and my kids are going crazy over 224 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Alan Iverson. 225 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I chopped chicken? Lest What do 226 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: you think his hero is? 227 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: I hated till this day when they used to call 228 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: me and said, hey, Dak, if you buy me some Jorrans, 229 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, what about the checks? Oh? The shacks were Walmart? 230 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 6: Dad? 231 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 7: Are you like what? 232 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: It's so funny. I went to see Doochi the other 233 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: night in concert, and I asked her to make a 234 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: little video for my daughter because it was her birthday, 235 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: and so I was cool for like ten seconds. When 236 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: my daughter watched that video, she was like, oh my gosh, 237 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: and then it was gone. 238 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: Wait, So when does it go from like your like? 239 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: Because I remember when I thought my dad was the 240 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: coolest person. Ever, when does that happen? When does it 241 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: go from like my parents are the coolest to like 242 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 3: leave me alone? 243 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think maybe because like I remember when. 244 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: Happened to you no, never, you were still the coolest 245 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: the whole time. 246 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: The opposite. I'm not cool ever, Yeah, oh you. 247 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: Were never no to my kids. No, not at all. 248 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: We were in the car and were you cool to 249 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 2: your kids? 250 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 8: No. 251 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean it's love me, but I don't want to 252 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: be cool to my kids. I want to be mom 253 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: to make that's right, like because I'm not trying to 254 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: be their friend. I'm trying to keep them alive and 255 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: help them learn the lessons they need to be good 256 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: adults in the world. I don't want to be their friend. No, no, no, no, no. 257 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: You have to remember you have a boy or girl. 258 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 3: He's one and a half. 259 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: So what I want you to remember is that you 260 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: are not raising a boy. You're raising a man. So 261 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: you need to be giving him appropriate boundaries that one 262 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: day he's the kind of man you want him to 263 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: be very good. 264 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: Then I'm glad I got it early and early. 265 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're saying so he's saying it was wrong 266 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: of me when I was when I was married, I 267 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: come home and you put the kids to bed, and 268 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: I tell them to get up and just come downstairs 269 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: with men. 270 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes that's fun. Sometimes it's fun but not 271 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: all the time because you also don't want to undermine 272 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: the parenting. Got it right. But that's another thing actually 273 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: that that really resonated for me in Shadow Force because 274 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: we're doing this like flip on gender norms because I 275 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: play this badass mom who's protecting the family from the outside. 276 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm like taking people out, shooting them under cover so 277 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: that the kid and the dad can stay alive. And 278 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: Omar is doing the primary parenting. He's raising our son 279 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: day to day because we decide if we're on the run, 280 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: nobody's gonna look for a mom and a kid. They're 281 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: gonna be looking, or everybody's gonna be looking for a 282 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: mom and a kid, not a dad. And again, so 283 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: I love that about the film that you get to 284 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: see this man doing this beautiful parenting like a black 285 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: dad being in this incredible father is so beautiful and 286 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: important to me because I'm married to a black man 287 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: who's an incredible father, and there's so many great dads 288 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: out there, even when they wake kids up in the 289 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 2: middle of the night, So it's important for me to 290 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: have that. 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Because I've never 405 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: seen you in. 406 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: A so twenty years ago, not to date myself, but 407 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: I will. I'm want to be honest. Twenty years ago 408 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: I played it was I'm forty eight. 409 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh you're not. 410 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh you're not. I am, Oh you are not. 411 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: So I did a movie called mister, What are you drinking? 412 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: And what do you eat? You're forty eight? 413 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: A lot of water? 414 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: Love water? 415 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: What use the occasional bo What are these incredible things? 416 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 3: Yeah? 417 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, in these gummies by the way, nothing we know, 418 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: it's just candy. I can take those to the kids. 419 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: That's weird, Okay, great, amazing. 420 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: Shaq's face is the gummy? Oh that's yeah? 421 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: Interesting? 422 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: You are you like? Are you like on a special diet? 423 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: I am I on a special diet. I have a 424 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: lot of food allergies. But no, I know. I mean 425 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: like I'm not vegan or I don't eat gluten. I 426 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: don't eat gluten. You're never going to be back. You're 427 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: not going to be gluten free. 428 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: Bro. I'm fifty three and I don't look at halfway. 429 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: But if I can get no water, if I have 430 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: a height, I'd probably eat a lot more though, because 431 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: you can spread it out. 432 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: I always told you like thirty something. 433 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: Well that's nice. I'm honored. 434 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: So are you going to do more roles like this? 435 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: I want to? I mean, so that's what happened is 436 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: twenty years ago I did an action film where I 437 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: played Angelina Jolie's best friend in Mister Missus Smith, and 438 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: I loved it, like climbing mountains meat and that it's 439 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: such a blast. And then I just haven't had the 440 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: opportunity because I've been able to do like these incredible 441 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: dramas and important films and great shows. But I was 442 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: looking for a chance to do this, and I want 443 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: to do more. 444 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: Why'd you left that time? 445 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my metric because he's like, oh my gosh, 446 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: she's forty eight. 447 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: She's so when you do a movie like this, where 448 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 3: like the nutrition has to be disciplined, you're working out 449 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: all the time. I've always wondered and then like, let's 450 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: say you have a romantic movie or a drama. Yeah, 451 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: but you're like, man, I feel great. Yeah. Is there 452 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: a part of you that's like I want to keep 453 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: it going or is it like we're done the last scene, 454 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: I can relax. 455 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: I try to. I honestly, really, I think of my 456 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: body as part of my costume, Like I try to 457 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: have my physical being be appropriate for the character. So 458 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: like right now, my girls, we were just saying this morning. 459 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: I started running last week because in two weeks I'm 460 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: starting a new series for Apple called Imperfect Women, and 461 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: my character is a runner, and there's a couple of 462 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: scenes where I'm jogging on the show. So I was like, 463 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: I hate running. I'm not a runner, but I'm now 464 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: training because I was like, yes, I have to run 465 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: in the scene, and that means that day I'll probably 466 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: have to run all day long scene. So I want 467 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: to be in shape for it, and I also want 468 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: to feel like a runner. There's a different kind of 469 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: way at runners moved through the world. It's like a 470 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: they don't avoid pain. Do you notice that about. 471 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: Running sit in it for long periods of time. 472 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: They're patient with pain, and that's something that's true for 473 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: this character as well. 474 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: So you were just. 475 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: Doing like explosive workouts and now you're doing. 476 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: Like long yeah. Yeah. And I was doing more like 477 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: weightlifting and pilates and like walking, but now I'm running. 478 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: You saw where you have the. 479 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: Machine. You got to get your daughter to show you 480 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: what you do on you. 481 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: Thought it was like a medieval tortured device, and. 482 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: It looked like she was like that. 483 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, put it like it's a stretching machine. 484 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Not to go back. But you know, I'm the biggest 485 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: Scandal fan ever for you, as said as I was 486 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: from shooting the last episode. 487 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: Yes, no, yes, and no, I was really I was 488 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: sad for the fans and thank you for being one 489 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: of our fans. And I was sad because you know, 490 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: those are some of my best friends, the other actors 491 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: on that show. And I knew that from that moment on, 492 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: we weren't going to be able to take for granted 493 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: that we would see each other all the time. We 494 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: were gonna have to be more intentional about it. And 495 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: I knew I would miss them. You know, I miss 496 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: not seeing Tony Goldwin all the time. I miss not 497 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: seeing Bellamie and Katie and Darby. But also I was 498 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: excited to get to do other stuff, you know, even 499 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: during the scandal years. I made Jangle during the Scandal 500 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: years and Confirmation, I started my production company. I had 501 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: two kids, I got married, like I did a lot 502 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: in the off season. But I was excited to grow 503 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: my production company and get to do other stuff like 504 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: little Fires everywhere and Shadow Force And yeah, I. 505 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: Ask you a question, and you're not gonna hurt my 506 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: feelings by your answer. I have fourteen movies? Am I 507 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: a real actor? 508 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: You have fourteen movies? That can't be true? I know, 509 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: I know I was gonna say, I'm aware of Shot? 510 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: What are your other movies? 511 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: Sam? 512 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: And wait? 513 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: Were you? Were you Blue chatting Amy Schumer? 514 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 2: Were you in that movie? 515 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: Can I finish eleven of the movies? I play Shack? So? 516 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, my friends always go, you go fourteen movie? 517 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: But you're not really an actor. So I'm do you 518 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: can send me an actor? Say no, please? So so 519 00:23:59,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: this can go? 520 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: You were an actor three of them? 521 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: What were the three movies that you weren't your Sam. 522 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: Blue Chips steal? Then what were you shacking for? 523 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: See before before? You weren't shacking before? 524 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what I'm saying the. 525 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: One where you got dressed as an old guy Jack 526 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: and jail, that wasn't that One's the more important question? 527 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: Do you consider yourself an actor? Then that's what we'll go. 528 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: If I don't want to say you're not an actor, 529 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: it's not. It's not my right to know. 530 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: You could, you could say it, it doesn't. So my 531 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: thing was growing up, I just always wanted to take 532 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: advantage of opportunities. 533 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 534 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: So I'm in a bar in New York and Chris Rock, Yeah, 535 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: I want you to be in my movie. So you 536 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say no, and then you know I'm 537 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: in LA and another guy and another guy, and then because. 538 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: People love you and it makes sense. I mean, you're 539 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: also so courageous in everything you do. Like you do, 540 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: You're constantly exploring, exploring new areas and growing and taking 541 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: advantage of opportunities. 542 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: So, yeah, we have a Big Break Question sponsored by 543 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 3: the General. 544 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: You celebrated Kiki aria Fans WNBA draft moment by spotlighting 545 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: her athletic brands and cultural roots. Like Harry Belafonte, you 546 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: often use your voice to amplify others. Why is it 547 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: important to inspire future black female leaders like Kiki Oh. 548 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: Kiki's so great and she's a huge Scandal fan. 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It's more I don't know. 614 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Maybe if I think checked out, maybe thirty, maybe thirty. 615 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: That's my assistant. 616 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeaht How many movies have I done? 617 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: I forgot you did. I forgot you did a movie 618 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: with Angela Jolie. 619 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: But I didn't assume. I did two movies with Chris 620 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: Chris Rock I did. I think, I Love My Wife 621 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: and Bad Company all right? 622 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: According to chet GBT four, oh okays, as of twenty 623 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: twenty four, okay, you have been in a round twenty 624 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: five to thirty feature film, depending on how you count 625 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: cameos and indie projects. 626 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, And then add to that the last couple 627 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: of years, which would be six, Tripo eight Shadow four. 628 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, probably us, just because say the last dance 629 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: popped up? Yeah, uh, my wife and I will always 630 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: send the videos of I can't remember the. 631 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: Actress's name, Julia Styles. 632 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: Dancing, and it's like videos where it's like, remember. 633 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: When we thought this was this was amazing? 634 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: What do you remember from that? 635 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: Were you? 636 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: Guys? Was there ever a moment where you're like, what 637 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: are these. 638 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: Dance moves that were I remember being really you remember. Yeah, 639 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: That's the thing about that movie was we were filming 640 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: in Chicago and the whole film, a lot of the 641 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: film was about club culture and they wanted us to 642 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: feel really authentic and grounded, and so rehearsal for that 643 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: film was that we went out clubbing every night in 644 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: Chicago and with it was fredro Star was in that 645 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: and I had just done an indie film with Sticky Fingers, 646 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: so I'd worked out of two out of the three 647 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: members of Onyx, So it was like incredible to be 648 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: out there kind of with hip hop royalty at the time, 649 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: in these clubs, like closing them down till four in 650 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: the morning. It was insane and. 651 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: That was work research. 652 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so fun. 653 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: Wait, so did you think that answims were good or. 654 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 2: At the time? I think they were. And also they 655 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: were supposed to be a combination of like ballet meets 656 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: hip hop fusion. It was revolutionary at the time. Roundbreak. 657 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: It's one of those things where when you watched when 658 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: I watched it at that time, I was like, this 659 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: movie is amazing, And I look back at some of 660 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: them was now and I go, where was it? Yeah, 661 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: but the movie is still great. 662 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: It is, and Fatima Robinson is one of the best 663 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: choreographers of all time. She choreographed that film. 664 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know so my wife went to La Guardia? 665 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: Did you know that one of Ina, i mean Shack's 666 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: favorite movies was Fame? Oh? 667 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: How could you not love Fame? I back in the name, 668 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: of course you were, but you could read, But you 669 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: could reads. They always talk about how like, if you 670 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: study ballet could make you a better. 671 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: You did some ballet, don't worry about. 672 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: A little bit of ballet. 673 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: How many of the Lakers titles can we credit? 674 00:30:59,640 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 9: You do it? 675 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: Secret classes with Wie Allen. 676 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: I'll never tell that's his scandal. 677 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: That's why he needed a fixer. 678 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: Somebody you did have a great spin off? 679 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: You have a Yes, you do. 680 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: I used to look at ballet, not really, Yeah, I 681 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: used to. I used to hear in the mirror. But 682 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: there's a viewer my day's But what the hell are 683 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: you doing? Suit your ass down. We've been having a 684 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: debate with one of my camera girls. Man my best friends. 685 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: So the question is would you put your man on 686 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: hold to answer the phone for a male friend. 687 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: Like if I was on the phone, you're on the. 688 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: Phone with your husband. Yeah, and another male friend calls, 689 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: would you say, baby, hold on? 690 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: Only if we knew that there was something big going 691 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: on in that person's life ahead of time, Like if 692 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: he was like, oh, I'm going to get my cancer results, 693 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: i'll call you in a couple of hours, or oh 694 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: we're going to find out the gender of my baby, 695 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: I'll call you, and my husband knew. 696 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: What if it's a work thing? 697 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: No? No, no, uh what happened? No, because I did 698 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: get you in trouble. 699 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: I was at a bar one day, okay, and this 700 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: guy was bragging by how you knew her, and I'm like, well, 701 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: you're not a boyfriend. But he I mean, he wasn't 702 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: talking great. He was just like, oh that's my girl, 703 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: my girl. I was like, that's your girl. Call her. 704 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: So he called her and she picked up the phone 705 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm everywhere. I just took it. 706 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: I told him everywhere. So then we got back and like, yeah, 707 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: who was that. That's just a friend, I said, But 708 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: you was on the phone with your with your boyfriends. 709 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Oh he knows that. I was like, oh hell no, 710 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: my woman been not ever put me in hold to 711 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: talk to you. 712 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: So the great You could also say that her relationship 713 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: is much more secure than a relationship you've been in 714 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 2: because she can take the call and know that nothing 715 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: is being threatened. She's giving you dance. 716 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: Women can turn it around to where it's like because. 717 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: His life is nuanced. You guys always want to see 718 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: something in black and white. 719 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: We see new on this man. 720 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: You see how you're all alone on and right now. 721 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: That's why I wrecked the pink shirt. Our next question 722 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: is sponsor, let me buy a ZIP recruiter, the smartest 723 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: way to hire, and looking for the ultimate teammate who 724 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: has been your ultimate teammate in your career to help 725 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 3: you make your career what it is. 726 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's a hard one. I mean, I've 727 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: had so many like lighthouses and heroes who have really 728 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: like championed me. But the to the first two people 729 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: who came to mind were Shonda Rhimes, you know, because 730 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: her casting me as Olivia Pope changed my life obviously. 731 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: But I also thought about Jamie Fox because I've been 732 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: able to play his wife twice in Djingo and in 733 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: Ray and both times he advocated for me in those roles, 734 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: and he's just an incredible movie husband, an incredible friend, 735 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: a real like he's been a real guide for me 736 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 2: throughout my career, in my life. 737 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: Now I'm fascinated. My wife is acting, and so I've 738 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: thought about if she's SORGI thank you. Her name is 739 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 3: inam Levko and. 740 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: A man if shet boat Jimmy Ocupine left. 741 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: What is it like having an on screen husband? Yeah, 742 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: because you said he's a good one, So what what 743 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: makes a good one? Yeah? 744 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: Well, for Jamie, he's a great leader. He's a really 745 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: he's a very generous leader. He's a very he cares 746 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: about the crew, he cares about the cast. He makes 747 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: sure everybody's taken care of. And he's professional, so you know, 748 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: everything falls from the top. So when he's professional, it 749 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: makes everybody else feel like, well, I don't have a 750 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: right to just goof around because he's doing his job 751 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 2: and he's doing it with love and with joy. 752 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: And I saw an in where you guys talked about 753 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 3: how Omar has met your family, and you've met Omar's 754 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: family and that helps the relationship as well. 755 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I slid into Omar's DMS the way you slid 756 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: into mind because I didn't want to go through the 757 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: agent manager thing, and I knew that he would be 758 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: great for this role. And Namdy and I had been 759 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: talking about it, like who's the right guy? And I 760 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: would bring up an actor and I'm dude, be like no, No, 761 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: he would bring up somebody. I'd be like, he's not right. 762 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 2: We both loved the Omar idea, So with my husband permission, 763 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: I slid into Omar's DMS and I was like, I 764 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 2: have a script I would love for you to read. 765 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 2: He immediately showed his wife and was like, do you 766 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: think this is real? 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My last scandal question, I'll never ever again. 816 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 3: Probably Jack and I have been something before you do that. 817 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 3: You know, I've never. 818 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: Seen it, You've never seen an episode. 819 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: In fact, we have been talking about how I'm excited 820 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: that I haven't because I experienced that like I want to. 821 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 3: I'm just going to Bingjamin, I do. 822 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 2: I do. I will tell you it does resonate a 823 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: different way with interracial couples, like with. 824 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 3: Black airport today. I was kind of thing, so I 825 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 3: asked her when we were in the airport, I said, 826 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: do you think that scandal caused more black women to 827 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: date white guys or vice versa? 828 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: What do we think? What do we think? 829 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: You know, I don't think lips the reason we got together, 830 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 3: but I think it. 831 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 2: Did subconscious normalized it more, it made it less taboo. 832 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: Have you had people come up to me being like 833 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 3: I tried dating a white guy because of you? 834 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 2: No? 835 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 11: Okay, but I which is interesting because I do have 836 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 11: a lot of people come up to me to say 837 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 11: they went into publicity pr or that they became lawyers 838 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 11: because of that character. 839 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: But I've never had somebody say I've decided to swir 840 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 2: all because of Olivia. 841 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 3: Subconscious yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 842 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: Two part questions. Okay, and when Shonda was writing, did 843 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: she give you freedom to change it? Because I really 844 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: love the relationship between you and your mother. He was 845 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: a bad person and you should have whacked her, but 846 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: you nenvere did you kind of put her away? 847 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: But I whack one'one. 848 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was. I was always I was saying, 849 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: please don't whack her. But she used to do a 850 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: lot of stuff like, oh, Olivia's gonna kill her. 851 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 2: She was out there Andy Alexander, such an incredible actress. 852 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: She is No. Shanda is one of these incredible, brilliant, 853 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 2: prolific writers who even would say to us, I don't 854 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: care how you say the lines, but you have to 855 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 2: say it exactly how it's written. She's like David Mammott 856 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 2: in that it is well, they're like some of the 857 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 2: greats are like that, and she's one of them, and 858 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: I love that. So she would take feedback on an 859 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: early draft. You were allowed to have notes and have 860 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,240 Speaker 2: questions and ask for adjustments. But once that second draft, 861 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: after the table read, the production draft came out, no 862 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: more changes, No more changes. 863 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get to the doctor. O Neil, 864 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: you don't have the answer is because you're married. I'll 865 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: answer and if you want to elaborate you can. Okay, 866 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: this is going to be spicy. 867 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 3: So we have this thing called doctor Neil because in Chack, 868 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 3: this is the first time I don't have to say 869 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: the second part. This is a doctor as well, you 870 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 3: both have an honorary doctor. 871 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: Yes, my doctor is not honored. I don't believe. My 872 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: best friend just said. 873 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 2: That, what what is it? What you have? It was 874 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 2: I was just trying to let y'all do you have 875 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 2: an actual doctor? 876 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 10: And what? 877 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: No? I said actual. 878 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: Actual? But what is did you get a doctorate? 879 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: And then what from Barry University in education? 880 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: Okay, my mother has that same doctorate in ed D. 881 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 2: Don't don't shah did Doctor Joe Biden has an e 882 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: d D as well? 883 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: And I'm working on my master's right now of liberal 884 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: what Okay? 885 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 3: Now, what a about sports psychology? 886 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: Yes, the sports psychology? 887 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 2: Are you really that's amazing? 888 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 3: He leaves an education, that's why he has an actual 889 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 3: Erry doctor. So you just got to listen to the. 890 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: Words is only honorary you are a doctor. 891 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 3: So I don't know how this started, but someone in 892 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 3: the beginning sending a question where it was like a 893 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 3: weird relationship question. They ask doctor O'Neil for advice. Wow, 894 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm only slightly concerned because I think some of these 895 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 3: people are literally waiting for him to answer. But but 896 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: we're going to go you're a doctor. 897 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 2: He has a lot of lived wisdom. 898 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to answer this question unless well she's 899 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: going to answer. 900 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 3: She can answer it like herself, and then what is 901 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 3: the name of your character? In Shadow Force? You can 902 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: answer it as if you're her if you want, But 903 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 3: there are usually precarious situations. This one comes from anonymous 904 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 3: in North Carolina. 905 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 2: Now you know it's bad because they don't even want 906 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: to say their name. 907 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 3: Are you my hubby's car today and I found a 908 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 3: condom wrapper between the passenger seat and the center council. 909 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 3: I remember last week he went to the store and 910 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 3: was gone longer than usual. I believe they also included 911 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: a picture in the post. I'm just kind of numb 912 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: right now. I haven't told him yet because I want 913 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 3: to look through his belongings to see if I can 914 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 3: find more. What would your next move be, Doctor O'Neill, 915 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: and doctor. 916 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: First of all, the answer is easy. It is I 917 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: let Brian use the car? 918 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 3: No, no, no, not how would you get out of it? 919 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: She's she's asking what she should do. 920 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 2: I'm dead. 921 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't mine. I let Brian use the car. 922 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 3: But if you were her, if she sang, she was saying, 923 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 3: I want to go look for more evidence. 924 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: Okay, so when you when you talk about evidence, there's 925 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence and there's direct evidence. A lot of times 926 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence will not get you prosecuted, but direct evidence 927 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: is as last you found that. So now you have 928 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: to get to the rule of it. But a lot 929 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: of us when we see circumstances of it, as we 930 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 1: get too emotional, we go off. 931 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 3: So what do you recommend that she does? 932 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: Ask them and you know you're you ask them in 933 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 1: a calm manner, and you should know your your mate's demeanor. 934 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 1: Like when I start stuttering, I'm about to make up. 935 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 3: A lot. 936 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: Away your partners tell So if a. 937 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: Person came to me and she's not mad, and she goes, 938 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,479 Speaker 1: what is this like if you're mad? Like, if you're mad, 939 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna waste fifteen seconds being emotional. Mother. Now now 940 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 1: I could. 941 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: And that means you've already prosecuted the person in your 942 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: mind before you're even happy to. 943 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: But you're coming up mad and you're gonna go fifteen 944 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: seconds going up. I'm already in my head. That's not minest. 945 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: But what are they you up? Let's be honest, like, 946 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 2: what are the I guess we should always say let's go. 947 00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 3: To chat cheat gpt Oh gosh. 948 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: He's. 949 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: What his friends? Somebody borrowed the car, borrow the car. 950 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,919 Speaker 1: And two to throw you off? To to throw you off? 951 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: Why would I leave a common car? I'm too big 952 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: to do it in the car. Wow, that's a good one. 953 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 954 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 3: Again, that's in car. 955 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: No, no, no, we don't know how to do. We 956 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: don't know our husband and her partner. 957 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: I would I would say, don't be emotional and just 958 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: ask him what it is and you will know about 959 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: his response whether he's telling the truth or whether he's not. 960 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 3: That's but how would Kia? 961 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: Uh? 962 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 2: God, I don't know what Kara would say because she Kia. 963 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 2: Course is very much about a couple that is strange 964 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 2: trying to find each other again. Yeah, but I would say, like, 965 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, anytime that there's infidelity in a relationship, it 966 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: has started long before that moment. So there are going 967 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 2: to be deeper issues than the condom. And if you're 968 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: willing to dig and find out what's actually going on 969 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: in your marriage, like, be willing to find out what's 970 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 2: actually going on in your man? 971 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: Okay, but why do you think there's infidelity? Miscare just because. 972 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 3: If there are issues, she didn't prosecute him already. 973 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: My Brian, Brian was dropping the car. 974 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 2: Poor Brian. 975 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Brian, Brian's really been in a lot of trouble. Hey, jeez, Brian, 976 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 3: not the Brian that works with sh. 977 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 2: You're Brian's wife, not your husband. 978 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for. 979 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: Coming, thank you for having Remember I remember. 980 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: When Shane came came to my house. He said, Carrie 981 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: Washington wants to do the podcast? Said, who carry Washington? 982 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, my carry Washing scandal? 983 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: Your fan? 984 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 3: And the name of your production company is what again? 985 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 2: It's called Simpson Street. It's named after the street in 986 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: The Bronx that my mom grew up on from the Bronx, Yeah, 987 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 2: from the Boogie Down. And we have a we actually 988 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 2: have a YouTube series that I would love for you 989 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: to do called Street you Grew up on? 990 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: I got you that you grew up? Which street would 991 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: you in North because because I, yes, I was actually 992 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 1: influential and tearing down the projects and it's all condos, 993 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: so yeah yeah, but actually no, I would do Jersey 994 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: City because there's a school that I'm trying. It's the 995 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: Number fourteen school. Like you have your people looked at 996 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 1: the number fourteen school in Jersey City on Oak Street. 997 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 3: Okay, the school is. 998 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: In bad shape. But my grandmother lived in ninety three 999 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: and one hundred, and I went to the city a 1000 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,720 Speaker 1: million times and asked them to let me buy the school. 1001 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: They're messing around, but I would like to buy the school. 1002 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 2: What would you do with it? 1003 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: Oh, I'd fix it up. 1004 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 2: That eed d two us. 1005 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I give them, I give them a new paint. 1006 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: I'd give them new technology. I'm getting computer like because 1007 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: I used to play on a court. The court's all 1008 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: meant like, I would just, you know, fix everything up. 1009 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: That would be so great. 1010 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: So if we did it, I would do Jersey City 1011 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: and Oak Street because I remember, I remember when I 1012 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: when I made a big time, I was always just 1013 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: talking to my grandmother and I always used to say, Grandma, 1014 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy your house. So we lived at a hundred, 1015 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: but the lady at ninety three had a better house 1016 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: that we did, and she's like, I want that house 1017 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: right there. So when I got some money, I just 1018 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: knocked on the lady's door. I was like, uh, She's like, 1019 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: I know who you are. You in the basket player. 1020 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, my grandmother wants to buy a house. 1021 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm not really selling them. But if I 1022 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: did sell, I was selling for three hundred and so well, 1023 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: I'll get you five hundred right now. 1024 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 3: Oh, Mike. 1025 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: I gave the lady five hundred and moved my grandmother 1026 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 1: into the house across the street. 1027 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 2: And wow, that's such a beautiful story. 1028 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 9: Will do it? 1029 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 2: You let me know where to be next time you're 1030 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 2: in LA. I want my son to get to meet you, 1031 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 2: no problem, whatever you need, it'd be great. Mayn May ninth, 1032 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 2: which is Mother's Day weekend. Yes, all the badass moms, 1033 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 2: dope best dads gather together. 1034 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and tell your beautiful husband Solf hello, I will 1035 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: well if you ever need anything, you and the kids 1036 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: ever need anything from Uncle Shack called me. 1037 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,359 Speaker 2: Thank you give it up for Kerry Walkson. Thank you guys. 1038 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 2: Such an honor to be here. 1039 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 6: H h h Yeah. 1040 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,240 Speaker 3: You did some ballet. How many of the Lakers titles 1041 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 3: can we credit shall Yeah,