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Speaker 2: Good morning, Jeffery, Good morning, sir. I'm glad to be

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Speaker 2: back with you for another Saturday here. And we do

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Speaker 2: have a bowl game by the way to the first

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Speaker 2: bowl game is after Army Navy. I know, I love

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Speaker 2: ball season, it's it's too early, too early, too early.

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Speaker 2: The Bucked Up LA Bowl presented by Gronk no more,

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Speaker 2: no more after tonight between Boise and Washington. But I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, man, there's nothing to talk about in

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Speaker 2: college football, is there?

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Speaker 3: What a what a very quiet week in the sport

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Speaker 3: continues to be a very quiet sport where nothing happens

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Speaker 3: of any interest whatsoever. And you know, just it just

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Speaker 3: it just continues to give us nothing. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: why do we cover the sports boring man?

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Speaker 2: So basically we're witnessing history right like it's anarchy and

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Speaker 2: college sports between the private equity now going to University

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Speaker 2: Utah private equity here is wild. The whole sport is

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Speaker 2: on its ear and upside down. And yeah, in the

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Speaker 2: middle of it, there's a there's a coaching scandal at

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest programs in the country. We are

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Speaker 2: kicking off both season, like you said, where we don't

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Speaker 2: even know who's playing, and oh yeah, Notre Dame gets screwed,

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Speaker 2: and we wonder is it payback for them not being

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Speaker 2: in a conference college football playoff? All on its ear?

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Speaker 2: The world is wild. It's just insane, Jeff Schwartz, Where

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Speaker 2: do you want to start?

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Speaker 3: All right? I mean, let's start because we were not on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, we were on last Saturday, but the

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Speaker 2: college football playoff happened after our show, So let's start

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Speaker 2: with the college football playoff. Saying I'm dying for your

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Speaker 2: thoughts here. Yeah, because you know you and I both

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Speaker 2: we love this stuff. I do power rankings. You have

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Speaker 2: them in your head. I have Notre Dame. Remember, remember, dude,

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Speaker 2: you're my man. Like, come on, I pay attention. I listen.

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Speaker 2: Part of being a good friend as you listen. I

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Speaker 2: think that I had Notre Dame as my third best

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Speaker 2: team in the power rank behind uh hive statement Indiana,

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Speaker 3: People had them three to five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like some people have Georgia. I had him

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Speaker 2: a tick ahead of Georgia. You know, I had Oregon

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Speaker 2: season unfolded, we know the deal by now. You know

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Speaker 2: you lose ut Miami and the opener, you lose a

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Speaker 2: and two. Then you run the table. They came together

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Speaker 2: as a team, the whole thing. I get a couple

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Speaker 2: of things. You and I talked about this on Championship

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Speaker 3: Correct. Okay, So where to begin I'll tell you. I'll

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Speaker 3: begin here. The number one problem with the Coltur Playoff

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Speaker 3: whenever I tweet about it, I get someone to reply

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Speaker 3: If you felt that strongly about Miami they had another name,

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Speaker 3: So that's the problem. Number two. Problem Number three Blabama problem.

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Speaker 3: The last three years, if you lost that conference championship game,

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Speaker 3: last three years, it didn't matter. This year, Ohio State

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Speaker 3: blown off again. They didn't score for five straight quarters

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Speaker 3: They didn't even drop them in ten. They kept them

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Speaker 3: And Bama, I don't I don't know Obama's even that good.

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Speaker 3: it from that perspective, it all makes sense, right because

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Speaker 3: To me, you can't make these off power rankings. I

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Speaker 2: But the AC.

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Speaker 3: Buried them well, the a c C also buried themselves.

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Speaker 3: But they're with their terrible tie breakers because you know,

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Speaker 3: all the problems. I also do I also do think

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Speaker 3: that because there was a prospect of no a SEC

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Speaker 3: teams that they put Miami in absolutely for that. The

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Speaker 3: question is not whether Miami should be in Miami should

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Speaker 3: be and they beat their name. The question is whether

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Speaker 2: Well, the other the biggest thing is to hold structure

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Speaker 3: And yeah, but that's a separate discussion because they had

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Speaker 2: I know, I get it, but I'm talking about from

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Speaker 2: a big picture. Oh, I agree, it's it's surd. This

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Speaker 2: this thing like Cinderella does not exist in football.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't. It's not going to this year. No, I

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Speaker 3: know that part of it is is it will change

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Speaker 3: I think again this year. You know, Okay, the old system,

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Speaker 3: that to me feels like a change that will be

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Speaker 3: that I just so many things frushan about the committee

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Speaker 3: why move the teams around so we go rematches? Why?

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Speaker 3: Why are why are Alabama and in in Oklahoma playing again?

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Speaker 3: Who wants to watch that game again? Why are Old

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Speaker 3: don't have to have rematches in round one? I don't

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Speaker 3: know why they didn't do that, Like that's a super Okay,

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Speaker 2: I dude, I it's it's maddening, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: how this thing is structured and how they screwed it up. Listen,

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Speaker 2: there is a backlash, that is, I don't say it's directly,

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Speaker 2: which is, hey join a conference. Last year there was

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty eight million dollars doled out from

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Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff. The conferences get that money and

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Speaker 2: the team and they gets split up there. It didn't

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Speaker 2: keeps it all. Yeah, you know, once they got how

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Speaker 2: much twenty million dollars. Yeah, it's basically your nil budget. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: twenty million off the college football playoff. They have a

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Speaker 2: clause next year. You know what the clause is?

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Speaker 3: This? This is I am, I am. I cannot believe

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Speaker 3: that this was agreed upod I. This was shocking to me,

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Speaker 3: but say go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if they're in the top twelve next year,

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Speaker 3: I am stunned that this is agreed upont I can't

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Speaker 3: I cannot believe that they eat to this. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: last week, I think they're gonna be we we'll explore

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Speaker 3: changing a lot of things that no name has going

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Speaker 3: for them. Because when their commissioner got on national TV

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Speaker 2: Listen, I agree with them in principle. That's a great

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Speaker 2: football team. They had every bit of chance to win

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Speaker 2: the national title.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I mean, really I think they could beat Olhiam State,

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Speaker 2: they could beat Indiana, they could beat Georgia. I think

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Speaker 2: And people resent that. And do I think that filtered in? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: That's Miami. So like the idea that that that was,

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Speaker 2: Right when when BYU loses, that was it. That's what

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Speaker 2: That's that's insane. All right, Lots to get to we

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Speaker 2: It's this whole world is wild. We got the NFL

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Speaker 3: I took a before the season twenty three to one. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Uh they are they are a jucker, but you don't

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Speaker 3: understand there's plausible deniability for these things, and maybe they

431
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: did not actually know, but oh no, man, if Michigan

432
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: knew about this for a while and were waiting for

433
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: him to lose to Ohio State and waiting for him

434
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: to have his recruiting class come in before firing him,

435
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: that's sleazy as well, and there should be a price

436
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: to pay for that.

437
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was uh, that was the rule that

438
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: they won the wait until if you're signing day.

439
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: Now, the kids will be let out of their of

440
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 3: their let every intent immediately if they want to transfer,

441
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: by the way, so like that is certainly it's a

442
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: thing that will happen if they want to leave. And

443
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: you know that process now is a little bit different,

444
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 3: uh that you know, with N I L or whatnot.

445
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: But the fact is, it sounds like everyone in Arbor

446
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: Store knew this was happening, and while there was no

447
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 3: definitive proof of it happening, how hard did Michigan look

448
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: for this to happen anything? Look, is he the first

449
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: coach to do this on the side, Probably not if

450
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: it be the Ohio State that does he still have

451
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: a job? Absolutely? Those are all all the things are true.

452
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: Those are all true. But he doesn't anymore. And uh

453
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: wait a Michion. Look, this is now like many years

454
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: of scandal for Michigan, right but with and see to

455
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 3: have a problem in their thought department with with with

456
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: scandal recently. And I'm curious to see obviously what the

457
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: end result of all this becomes. The room was about

458
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: who they hire, I mean, right now in the prediction markets,

459
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: kit Kenny Dillingham of Arizona State is the favorite. I

460
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: think Keeland Bore wanted the job. We already have it.

461
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: I don't think they want to have it. Get fish, yeah,

462
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: and another year of turmwill He's.

463
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: Lucky that that they got Matt Campbell when they did.

464
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: Correct, he'd be a Michigan he'd be a Michigan man

465
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: at the moment. You know, I I don't know how

466
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 3: the athletic director. I also you know what one one

467
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: one last thing here? I thought it was pretty gross

468
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: how they they fed the information yesterday about how Scharnmore

469
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: was having a mental health episode and they fired him

470
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 3: without an HR person there or without security there. And

471
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: two things about that. One that was very clearly put

472
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: out there trying to get the athletic director fired. Right then, Hey,

473
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: he fired this guy without the proper people being there.

474
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, man, Look, I've been fired

475
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: before from NFL job. Won't or won't not be in

476
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: afire a head coaching job. Man, there's not an HR

477
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: person in the room, and they fired the head coach.

478
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: What do we do why. It's not the way it

479
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: works in coach football. It's not a it's not a

480
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: it's not a corporate job. They get there's no HR

481
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: person in the room, they just get they get fired,

482
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 3: and they move along. Like the idea that this was

483
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: supposed to throw the you know, the ad under the bus.

484
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: I just thought the reporter on that was kind of

485
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: gross that that like they they ran with that story

486
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: and tried to make the AD look bad here when

487
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: it sounds like he might have not known, even though

488
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 3: I think we all agree he probably did know. It's

489
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: very unfortunate. Man. Again, Schroanmore is thirty nine years old,

490
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: same age as me played offensive line. I believe it

491
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: was at Oklahoma. He's announced championship winning coach. He had

492
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: the head coaching job at Michigan at Michigan seventy two

493
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: hours ago. And this has been going on for years.

494
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: By the way, this is not so, this is not

495
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 3: like he just did this last week, and it's just

496
00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: it's disappointing. Man. It's just I, I personally don't have

497
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: those urges, So I don't know what it's like. Uh,

498
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: I can barely it's a little time of like I

499
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: can barely handle one woman in my life, my own wife.

500
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: Oh I love like having a second, a third, dming

501
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: women the thing two that I was telling someone yesterday

502
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: about this. Has he have time to do this? These

503
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: coaches like have no time to live their own life,

504
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: and they had time on this on the side to

505
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: like have a side piece. Uh it's all Uh, it's

506
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: all just you know, it's it's not. None of it's good.

507
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: We can laugh about some of it, obviously, But I

508
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: help coach gets to help he needs. I hope that

509
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: his wife and family have some peace at some point

510
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: with a situation. I just think, like I'm just gonna

511
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: put imagine my wife through this, like a my kids

512
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: through this. It's just yeah, it's an awful situation.

513
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: It really is what's next for Michigan, right, like you know,

514
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: what where do you where? Where do you begin this search?

515
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: And then what happens to like a Bryce Underwood?

516
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: So the search is so the search I think comes

517
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: down to two things, right One, are you are you

518
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: hiring someone to keep Brice Underwood? What's Katy Dillingham higher?

519
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: I think we keep Brest Underwood? Or are you hiring

520
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: someone to just not have scandal? And and this is

521
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: Katy Dylan. I don't think's gonna have scandal, by the way.

522
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: I'm just I just don't think. But are you going?

523
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: Are you going? You know he's even younger than she

524
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: and more are you going younger than sherw and Moore?

525
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: Are you are you going with someone like you know,

526
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: obviously I don't know, like canle de bor is doing it?

527
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: But can de Boor or a jed fish like a

528
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: coach has a long history of being a coach without scandal.

529
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: You know Utah yesterday and.

530
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Speaker 2: Now I mean real quick, just interject when when you're

531
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: looking at an older coach I mean, like we could

532
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: look at Signetti and go look at the success that.

533
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: He had when he finally got a job. Correct. So

534
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: the other couple of names that I think are interesting here.

535
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: Yesterday Kyle Whittingham at Utah decided to leave the program.

536
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: He didn't use the word retire in in in what

537
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: was in his in his UH letter, he didn't use

538
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: the retire. And then the reports came out that he's

539
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: not retiring. He would be open to another job. He

540
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: would be if he wants that job, a great hire

541
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: for Michigan. I don't know if he wants that job,

542
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: but he at Utah did a remarkable job with that,

543
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: with that program. He brought the reason I didn't see

544
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: the reasoning.

545
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 7: Uh.

546
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: People expected this for years, like just it just was time,

547
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: like he kind of I think he maxed out at

548
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: Utah what he could do at Utah.

549
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting though, because the private would deal gets announced.

550
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so people actually so people expected this at Utah

551
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: for a while. Now him to retire, and they actually

552
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: speculated the private acuity deal might might keep him in

553
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: Utah because now that money kind of what I thought,

554
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: That's why I was asking so curious. So I do

555
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: wonder if Michigan just puts out a call, Hey, hey, Kyle,

556
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: like you're interested and see what you get back there.

557
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: I saw someone suggest like David Shaw. No, I would

558
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: do that. But if you're looking for like a coach

559
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: like that, like who's built program and got Utah the

560
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: kind of weddinghead thing. He took Utah from the mountain

561
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: west of the Pac twelve. They want the conference championship.

562
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: Like a lot of the power for schools that have

563
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: gone up, sue me. The group of five schools that

564
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: have gone up to Power five have not had success.

565
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: Utah had success. And so if I have Mischian, I

566
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: at least call, I'll call over there and say, hey, man,

567
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: you're interested and taking this job? He would no skin.

568
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: It just wouldn't happen under coy whitting him. It's not

569
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: how he rolls. And you get a coach that's won

570
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: a lot of football games and it's physical, tough, smart,

571
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: give him a little bit of money, give him Bryce Underwood,

572
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: which he really hasn't had at Utah and you know,

573
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: winning football team. Man, you would wow, it's what the

574
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: coaching thing, you know.

575
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny how you always say, there's not

576
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: enough quarterbacks in the NFL, enough coaches, there is no

577
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: entering Saturday comes more blends more into the Sunday. He's

578
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: not a lot.

579
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: Which is which is, which is what I said about

580
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: why I think like Luke Fickle kept a job and

581
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: why I think you know why I think you.

582
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 2: Know, uh uh.

583
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: Norvell kept a job? Right like these schools look around there,

584
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: like who are we hiring for these jobs? Head State

585
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: finally hired Matt Campbell. The story that came out, Okay,

586
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: hang on, put a bow on that. Let's let's talk

587
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: about that on the other side. We'll get to Matt Campbell.

588
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: We also have to get to the NFL next hour,

589
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: so we'll start with the NFL stuff at the top

590
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: of the hour. Lots to go over there. Eagles lost

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00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: three in a row, we got major games. The rematch

592
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: in New England's that beat Buffalo earlier in the year.

593
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: Now the rematch happens. That's going to be fun. Rams

594
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Speaker 2: Lions also fun. So Lots to get to where the

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612
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: of Matt Campbell and Penn State.

613
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: So the report came out that they tried to contact

614
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: Matt Campbell earlier in the process, but they got a

615
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: bad number for him. I what, yeah, I saw that.

616
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: What your Penn State? You couldn't find the right number

617
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: for Matt Campbell's agent and then like you just didn't

618
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: you answer back, and you're like and you're like, okay,

619
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: well lol, he doesn't want the job. I guess we're

620
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: not going to talk to him anymore. What you like,

621
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: you just you just gave up after not being able

622
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: to contact him for me days. I mean, honestly, I

623
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 3: didn't really take that seriously. Multiple who have reported that now,

624
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: So I with that. Multiple people have reported that now

625
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: that they reached out to an old agent of his

626
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: who did not pass along the information to Matt Campbell.

627
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: All right, I know, I I that makes so little

628
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: sense to me.

629
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh, I agree.

630
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: I mean that.

631
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't really take it serious, Like I

632
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: took him as though they weren't serious, because if they

633
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: were serious back then, like you said, like, what do

634
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: you mean, like you don't just not follow up like

635
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: corre all right, you know whatever I got, sid, I'm

636
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: getting silence, like what you know again? Yeah, we're Penn

637
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: State and knowing Paccraft. I mean, I just I would

638
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: find that hard to believe. I do. I find it

639
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: hard to believe.

640
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: In the end, it feels like Penn State got a

641
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: fantastic coach and one that's gonna work really well, there

642
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: like in the end, through this whole process, they got

643
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: a coach. It probably should have targeted from the beginning,

644
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: who but Iowa State into into a contending team every year,

645
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: which it feels impossible to do because I was thin,

646
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: and there's no history of a success in football. And

647
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: it does feel like this is an opportunity for them

648
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: to sort of recover from from the Franklin end of

649
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: kind of debacle there at the end, he obviously he's

650
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: keeping Terry Smith there. I like his hire so far,

651
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: Jim Knowles, as I believe, leaving right, he brought some

652
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: guys with him from from Iowa State, So I I

653
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: like it. Well, I do too, I like a lot.

654
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Beck, who obviously played in the league for a

655
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: long time in the NFL for a long time, also

656
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: coaches in the in the the other league and UFL.

657
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: And then is uh the dad of Rocco Beck, who

658
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: played for Matt. You know, Rocco's great quarterback and is

659
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: a great football man and loves and loves Matt Campbell. Uh,

660
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: you know, I talked to him life about him and

661
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: and he was he was thrilled.

662
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: So I agree with you.

663
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: I think they came out best possible scenario. They're going

664
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 2: to be lean next year, right, and so it's gonna

665
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: take a minute to build the thing. But I think

666
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: as long as you had patients, I think Matt can

667
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: settle in and and and do well.

668
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: I think so too. I'm I'm curious to see obviously

669
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: quarterbacks have a big decision for him. Uh what happens there?

670
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: I was support opens up a little bit. But yeah,

671
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: I think that's a hire. If you would have told

672
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: them they end up with Matt Campbell fifty five days ago,

673
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: you'd have been like, good hire, right, it just took

674
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: a long time to get there.

675
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I you know, I felt the same thing.

676
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, well, you know you turned out

677
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: it worked out for you in a world again, in

678
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: a world where you're.

679
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: Just a coaching shortage.

680
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: You just it's like we saw the you know, saving retirement,

681
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: and you lost a lot of big time coaches and

682
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: it's going to take a minute to kind of replenish

683
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: and work itself through.

684
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: And this Penda State deal got a lot of a

685
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: lot of coaches hired, Like I mean, I not hired.

686
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: I extended a lot of money.

687
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: I made a lot of people money. Yeah, baby made

688
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: a lot of money, uh for a lot of people.

689
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: All right, coming up, I want to switchcus for a minute.

690
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: We'll get back to college football, Army Navy. I do

691
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: want to talk about it, U like today, but to

692
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: the NFL. We're gonna go next Monster game, Patriots Bills tomorrow.

693
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Speaker 3: Foxborrow Fellas on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

695
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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy happy Fox

696
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are the fellas Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano

697
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: with f you guys hanging out. Hope everybody's getting ready

698
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: for the holidays. Favorite time of the year, it says

699
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Speaker 2: so it's always gonna pop up at the top of

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Speaker 2: your screen. All right, talk to heavy college football as

710
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: you can well imagine with the world going wild, turning

711
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: upside down.

712
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: We'll get back to it.

713
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: And I don't want a slight Army Navy because it's

714
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: it's one of the great games. I love it and selflessly.

715
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: I live in Philly and when I was a kid,

716
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: it was we used to always be in Philadelphia. Yeah,

717
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: before they rotated, you know, to North Jersey and Baltimore,

718
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: d C.

719
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: Talking about to Atlanta, by the way, Yeah I like that. No,

720
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it needs to be in bad weather.

721
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: It needs to be cold, like he needs to be

722
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: near the campus as cold like Atlanta feels way too

723
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: sterile for that game.

724
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have to.

725
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 3: I mean.

726
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: It just selfish. My memories of Army Avy. So you know,

727
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: I remember being a kid at going to the VET

728
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: right it was the old Veteran Stadium before the Lincoln

729
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: Financial Field, and the town you know, this week would

730
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: be filled with servicemen, right like, so all the Army

731
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: Navy people would come in and you know, it was

732
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: it was awesome, like you see them around town and

733
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: I remember being a kid and you know, looking up

734
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: and it was like a magical experience and going to

735
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: the game. You know, my dad, my family members, like

736
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 2: you know, everybody served, and we would all everybody would

737
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: go to the game, and it was it was a

738
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: big deal. And so I always remember, you're right, the

739
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 2: bitter cold, like right now it's twenty degrees. We're expecting

740
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 2: our first snow of the year is going to hit tonight.

741
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: And that reminds me of Army Navy. You know, that's

742
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: a part of it. So let's get speaking of cold weather,

743
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: let's get to the Jewel of tomorrow.

744
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: And it's a one o'clock game.

745
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: Man, if there's every game that should have been flexed,

746
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: I guess it was protected. But this is a game

747
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: that should be on Sunday night, not one o'clock. Bills

748
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: and Patriots the rematch, Jeff.

749
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 3: What a game. You know, this is essentially for the division,

750
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: right the winner of this game will well, if the

751
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: Patriots win, the division is over. If the Bills win,

752
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 3: there's still a chance that they can sneak you into

753
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: the division. They need this win as to make that happen.

754
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: You know. What I find so you know, fasty about

755
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: this game is obviously where you know sort of where

756
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: these teams are at, right, where you have a situation

757
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: where you have you know, a buffalo team that has

758
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: been inconsistent so far this season, but you know, their

759
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: ability to win games because of Josh Allen is very impressive.

760
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: And we saw last week, right, you know, Josh Allen

761
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 3: with the forty five your touchdown, Like they're just that's

762
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: that's what the Bills team's gonna need because they're not

763
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: great a wide receiver as we know. We know that

764
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: they don't. They don't stop to run very well, and

765
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: they're gonna need these Josh Allen plays to make this happen.

766
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: New England's schedule has been like uber easy, even though

767
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: they've been impressive in the games they have played. They're

768
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 3: off of bye. Mike Fable has been good career wise

769
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: off a bye, which important to note here right that

770
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: that that does matter here. Drake may has been It's

771
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: been fantastic this season. It feels like it's getting better

772
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: every week. H really really fun matchup here. Yeah, man,

773
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: it's uh, it's got a lot to it.

774
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Speaker 2: Of course, the last time, the last game, like we

775
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: talked about twenty three twenty in Buffalo, Diggs had a

776
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: monster it was like his comeback game. He played really well.

777
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: But you know what's funny, I was talking to Mike

778
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: Garrofolo from the NFL Network yesterday, and we had this,

779
00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: we had this memory like that New England dominated the game.

780
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: They didn't right, right, right, they did not that's right.

781
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to tomar Man. Keep going back

782
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: from the Buffalo standpoint two things. One their defense and

783
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: you know, can this thing get fixed? And two it

784
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: just goes back to you know, you don't have enough

785
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: weapons for Superman.

786
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: You probably don't congraduates. By the way, Josh Allen will

787
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 3: be a father soon. I was announced yesterday. I yeah,

788
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know if they have enough to

789
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: win this guy. I know there's the short favorites. It's

790
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: so funny. We're to point this year where you say,

791
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: for a lot of the teams that we expected to

792
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: be good, well, well, it's a must win game. They

793
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: can't lose this game. The Bills have to win this game,

794
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: The Chiefs have to win this game. Baltimore has to

795
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: win this game. First of all, you have to win

796
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: a game. You must not be very good, right, If

797
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: you have a must win game, you must not be

798
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: very good, right, Like that's always you know that, That's

799
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: that's kind of what I live by and Buffalo has

800
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: a lot of flaws. Are they better at quarterback and

801
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 3: have more experience? Probably? Are they in a position where

802
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: they need to win and do you trust them in

803
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: these spots? Probably, But they have to win for a reason,

804
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: you know, Like it's just not been as good as

805
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 3: we thought this year. Plus New England's had a great season.

806
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: So I just don't know if I can back a

807
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: team that, again, like has to win, but hasn't been

808
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: able to do it this season in a way that

809
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: we've expected them to do in the past. I'm really

810
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: out on the Chiefs this week, will with them a

811
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 3: few minutes, So I don't really know if I'm gonna

812
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: if Buffalo is a side that I think is gonna

813
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 3: win this game.

814
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't disagree with your premise, which is, you

815
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: know this has to win thing because of putation, right,

816
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: like this team has to win, that team has to win.

817
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

818
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: I had the same conversation this week. The Eagles have

819
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: lost three in a row, right, and they have the

820
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: Raiders in town, the lowly Raiders. If you can't win

821
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: this week, we everyone's been fired so well that that

822
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: was why I think, like, you can't lose this week, like,

823
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: you gotta win this week. There's no way in the

824
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: world that you can lose to the Raiders. No, but

825
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: we have this, this conversation a lot. We've had it

826
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: with Baltimore. You said it with Kansas City. By the way,

827
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: I will say this, I did not expec I did

828
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: expect last week to go that way. That defense is

829
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 2: by far the best in the NFL. And the Texas

830
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: are going to the super Bowl.

831
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: They're not going to super Bowl. I love, I love

832
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: where they are offense. You cannot go super Bowl with

833
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: that offensive line. It's impossible. It's not gonna happen.

834
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: They're much better. They're much better, dude. I talked to

835
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 2: Spags this week. They see threw everything at CJ. Yeah,

836
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: everything they didn't and they.

837
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: Did nothing until the Chiefs foolishly went for a fourth

838
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: and three at their own like thirty like that. That

839
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: second half was gross. They had no answers and all

840
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: of a sudden, Kansas City, for whatever is Andy Reid

841
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: is like, ah, screw it, let's go for it. And

842
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: if they didn't go for it, Houston was not. I

843
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: feel love. I disagree with you. I think Houston's dangerous.

844
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: You said they're going to the super Bowl, though, I am.

845
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: I do.

846
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like they're gonna win the AMC.

847
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: I love their defense, I love it. I love I

848
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: love it.

849
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: Not with that offensive line, in my opinion, all right,

850
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: I can't see can't run the ball. I mean, do

851
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: you trust Stroud to go on the right?

852
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: I do trust I think Stroud in games, I do.

853
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: I like Stroud.

854
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 3: I do.

855
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: I trust them. You got it, dude, that lines protected

856
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: and better did last year. Last year was a complete mess. Sure,

857
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: but the other day was not good either. Though it

858
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: was pretty bad. I mean, specs for everything at them.

859
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: I talked to I talked to Steve on Tuesday. We

860
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: went through the whole thing. Like they're good. They're good.

861
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're that good.

862
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, but who is that good? You got Buffalo,

863
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: and you got and you got New England.

864
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: Denver's pretty good.

865
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you were like, disagree with Denver. I

866
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: don't like Denver.

867
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: I don't like Nicks.

868
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: I think there. I think their defense is good. It's

869
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 2: not as good as the Texans.

870
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but their offensive line, run game skill guys, like

871
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: all that is better in my opinion. Yeah, But like

872
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: like like their whole like offensive setup as much. I'll

873
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: take Nico Collins over something. The whole offensive setup is better.

874
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: And well you're just.

875
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: Talking about their line. Let's hit well and play calling.

876
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: Their play calling is better, Like they have a better

877
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: play caller that that. I think that matters in the postseason. Yeah,

878
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not a big fan of Knicks. I'm not

879
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: a big fan of that. And you could take Sean

880
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 3: Payton the all day long. I good coach. I look

881
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: and I agree. I'm not a big Sean Payton fan.

882
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: My my thing with Nicks is like if you can

883
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: get you know, ten percent better in the playoffs that

884
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: they're really live with AFC.

885
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't think so. Well, so we're

886
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead to head you and I will go ahead.

887
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't buy Houston at all. Just I mean, they're

888
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: not going to the fits. Are they gonna be the

889
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 2: defense travels?

890
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: Baby, They're gonna go as a wildcard team on Super Bowl.

891
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: I like them. I'm just say, dude, I like them.

892
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: You know what, Walker, what's the last walkcard team to

893
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: go to the Super Bowl.

894
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: I gotta think about it, dude. It's seven o'clock in

895
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: the morning, Tom Brady in twenty twenty.

896
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: Can I think about it for a second. Let's tell

897
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 3: you is Tom Brady in twenty twenty? That's who it was?

898
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: All right, there's a five seeds.

899
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: Well that was a that was the COVID year, right.

900
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 3: It doesn't that doesn't count. Nothing counts for that season.

901
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm just saying the walk Yeah, you know, walkcard teams

902
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 3: don't often go to the Super Bowl.

903
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: So they win, they've got a revelation, Jimmy. But dude,

904
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: but I like their I don't have to tell you.

905
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: I love their defense. I love the way they're playing.

906
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: They're they're playing hot, and I'm not so sure that

907
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: they're not going to win the division. So you like

908
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: the Jaguars more than I do.

909
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

910
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: I don't really particularly like the Jaguars. I don't love them,

911
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: but they I mean I think the I think they

912
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: the Texas can they're gay behind them.

913
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: Who's the tiebreaker there.

914
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: Right now?

915
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 5: I know.

916
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 3: They're they're both.

917
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: I love the defense. I'm just I love defense.

918
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 3: I love the schedules are pretty easy too. They have

919
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: like very very winnable games, like you know, the rest

920
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: of the way they didn't. I think both of them

921
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: have like one competitive game left in their schedule lost. Yeah.

922
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: So Jacksonville has the Broncos. That's a competitive game they have.

923
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: They have jets of Broncos, Colts, Titans, So that Broncos

924
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: game is gonna matter a lot. And I think Houston, Houston,

925
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: we know this weekend has Arizona. They have one other

926
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 3: tough game. I think Texans call the tie breaker. So

927
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: it's Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, Colts for uh for the Texans. Uh.

928
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 3: So that Broncos game next week for Jacksonville will probably

929
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: matter for the division.

930
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

931
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: And let's Philip Rivers lights it up, baby. That's that's

932
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 3: that's embarrassing. Light it up, buddy. I could not wager

933
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: enough on Seattle this weekend that that wager has been made,

934
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 3: it's been placed. What an embarrassment for the Colts. Really

935
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: super embarrassing. This is a This is Philip Rivers is

936
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: forty four years old. He has not played the game

937
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: in nearly five years, nearly five years. He he hasn't

938
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: played since the end of the twenty twenty season. And

939
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna bring him in presumably he's gonna pu He's

940
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: gonna start this week. I don't know why else you

941
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: bring him in, right, supreme just just supremely embarrassing that

942
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 3: this is where they're at now, that Philip River is

943
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: gonna save your season. He's going you can play at

944
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: Seattle maybe the league's best defense. No, I know, dude,

945
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: I get it. I bet on Seattle is Richardson. They

946
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: killed them, man, just so do we believe that he

947
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: like the thing was I think with Richardson is that

948
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: he's I think he's probably fine. They just don't want

949
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: to play him. Yeah, yes, yes, Okay, we all got there. Okay,

950
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: same page. Uh, but let's get back to Bills and Patriots.

951
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: Because I love and by the way, but when i'm

952
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: you know, I'm being with the you know, hot takey.

953
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: With my Texans.

954
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: But I mean, like, if I'm want to, if I

955
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: want to take Bills and and Patriots are are both

956
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: you know, extremely live.

957
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 3: I mean, they're both really good. I just don't by

958
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 3: the Bills run defense in the playoffs that I know

959
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: I worry about them, I do. I hear you, Josh

960
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 3: Allen dependent like on on.

961
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: I know, if they had if they had more, they

962
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: just needed one all the weapon for them, like, you know,

963
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: ke Koleman just hasn't been that guy, Like you need

964
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: more than just thaltkkad.

965
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Josh Allen's numbers that are like are insanely

966
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: good when you have kinkaid or someone who's out of

967
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: the lineup, which is you know, super important to note here. Yeah,

968
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: you just need another out, You just need another outside.

969
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: It's so Josh Allen dependent man, and I just I

970
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: don't know if I can can can buy them on

971
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: the whole with the way they're set up right now.

972
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 2: Or their run defense is uh suspect.

973
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 3: So that's a nice way to put it. Correct.

974
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: Good there, they're paid. And then the Patriots, now let's

975
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: look at them for a second, because.

976
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: God, they're just not ready for posting success yet in

977
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 3: my book.

978
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: So, I mean, obviously, you know, I see where you're

979
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: coming from. So but I think we've seen that before,

980
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: Like we've seen the team come and and make a

981
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 2: run and look, Washington, you know, got with a game

982
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl last year.

983
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: So the reason why it's hard to pick up the

984
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: Patriots to get to the Super Bowl is it's very

985
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: hard in your first year of postseason play to get

986
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: to get the super Bowl. It's very rare. Right, We've

987
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: seen guys in the year two. Everyone says, well, year two,

988
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 3: Drake may Well, sure, we've seen players, you know, Russell Wilson,

989
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: Big Ben in year two. The difference, obviously is they

990
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: went to the playoffs in year one like that a

991
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: little bit of experience in year one. This team has

992
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: no experience in the postseason, and that does concern because

993
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: I think I think that does matter to have you

994
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: have to have a little bit of experience in the postseason.

995
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: In sometimes that sometimes sometimes you get a team that's

996
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 2: just ready. Like again, Washington, I'm going off at NFL

997
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: history like team, like I get it, but I get it.

998
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: But like, look at Washington last year. They're one game

999
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: from the super Bowl. Yeah, they were one full game

1000
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: from the super Bowl. They got their butts up to

1001
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: that game. Okay, but but they're one game like they

1002
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: would one like they would you know, we're talking about

1003
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 2: like we're talking about like can they can they get

1004
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and win it?

1005
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 3: Right in this in this discussion, I don't think, I mean,

1006
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, look, look New England, can it

1007
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: can be the White Sea, the Rams, the best team?

1008
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could.

1009
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 3: Well, the thing about New England like they could they

1010
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: can have the one seed to win one game and

1011
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: be the Answer Championship game.

1012
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't.

1013
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 3: I don't think that's that's out of the question. The

1014
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: question is can they win the answer Championshi game against

1015
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: Houston or against Denver against the Bills. Again, I don't

1016
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 3: know if I would take them to win that game.

1017
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: That's again when you're thinking about if you your mister

1018
00:56:54,840 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: lines go Patriots, Uh, Patriots Denver? What's the line.

1019
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 3: In in the uh? Where in New England?

1020
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: New England?

1021
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Denver is probably favored by two, right, I would

1022
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: take Patriots.

1023
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: But all right, but either way, it's inside, it's right

1024
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: around pick them. You you would think Patriots would be

1025
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: favored New England. Yes, I mean.

1026
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: They're Buffalo's favored today or tomorrow.

1027
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: I should say it's the Bills effect. You over rate

1028
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: the Broncos. My god, who which lay there?

1029
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: I mean the Broncos, I mean they're they're analytics. I

1030
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: mean they're better than than Buffalo, which goes into this, right,

1031
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: that's a part.

1032
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: Of it, right, Okay, those analytics.

1033
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: But I'm just looking at DV O A E P

1034
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 3: A like those are like, those are those matters?

1035
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I look, I look at that team and I

1036
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: go boat Nicks is a favorite in New England.

1037
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: Look, I have problems with with the analytics this year

1038
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 3: because the chiefs are OR six and dv AA and

1039
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: they stink. So I don't. I don't like, I don't,

1040
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't do it.

1041
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: I listen, I'm with it, like there are things that

1042
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: I I still you know what, I still don't know

1043
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: why you know the the analytics that that I still

1044
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: I've had it explained to me by GMS A thousands times.

1045
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: You're doing. I can't buy it? Yes, I guess, yeah,

1046
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: going for two, thank you? Going for two down up seven?

1047
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: Right? Yeap?

1048
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: Or don't down down eight down eight, that's what it is, right,

1049
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: going for to down eight?

1050
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: No, don't go for two down down, four down whatever,

1051
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: all the number. It's all fun. It's all of last week.

1052
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: It's all for Thursday.

1053
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 3: So you're down fourteen, you score to go down eight,

1054
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: you go for two to go to six. Right, that's exactly,

1055
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: Look I I it's quit simply this right, Like you

1056
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: have a two point conversion temps are typically fifty to fifty, right,

1057
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: And if you. I understand the math. I'm explained to

1058
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: me a thousand times.

1059
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: I don't buy the unless you're an offensive team that

1060
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: really has great two point conversion plays.

1061
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't buy it. Atlanta won, though

1062
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: they won? Why did they win because of the turnovers?

1063
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 3: Very good?

1064
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1065
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 3: Talk about Tom boldof for he is he is for sure,

1066
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: he's out the paint. He ain't gonna be there next year.

1067
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: He knows that too. That's why I think it's one

1068
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: of the tirade there. Why would be pissed off?

1069
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, all right, we got to take a

1070
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: quick time out. Let's talk about Todd on the other side.

1071
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: Most coaches don't m f their team in the podium, but.

1072
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: Sure I love toddat time I went to Temple together.

1073
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: He won't.

1074
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Speaker 2: Know where the fell is hanging out right here. Fox

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the NBA, JEF, It's one team league. I

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Speaker 2: know you bring up Denver. You have this, you have

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Speaker 2: a people devor should love you man, You're a Denver

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Speaker 2: up this morning Broncos Nuggets.

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Speaker 3: I mean they took them with seven last year and

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01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 3: they're better now, so yeah, I think, okay, she's better. Okay,

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01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 3: she's starting five, could probably be a starting group in

1110
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 3: the NFL. You know, in the NBA, I should say, like, no,

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Speaker 3: they're they're really good too. Yeah okay, see, second team

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Speaker 3: would win the East, so obviously I make a lot

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Speaker 3: of money if Okay, he keeps winning. I think Denver

1114
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: is not a bad pick. If you're still looking the

1115
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Speaker 3: wayser on winning the West, you can't think okay, see now,

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01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: so I think they got to I think the NBA

1117
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: is problem. What's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That you're gonna have one team located in Oklahoma City

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Speaker 2: that is so far better than everybody else, well they

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Speaker 2: mutter than everybody else.

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Speaker 3: They'd be created a ton of this mess with this,

1122
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: with this apron stuff for teams, kids can't get better.

1123
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Speaker 3: So okay, so he just had a bunch of draft

1124
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Speaker 3: picks that hit and they're able to pay them. And

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Speaker 3: that's just the way that the league is right now.

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Speaker 2: I don't deir Coffers filled right and draft picks correct.

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Speaker 3: More draft picks and more draft picks, and more draft

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Speaker 3: picks I.

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Speaker 2: Mean it's the greatest front office job in the history

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Speaker 2: of sports.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, look it's it's okay see your buzz. I mean, dude.

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Speaker 3: The thing that what creates about them too is like

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Speaker 3: you can get such value on them. In game a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, they were losing to the Jazz

1135
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Speaker 3: by sixteen in the first quarter, and uh, I was

1136
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Speaker 3: able to get okay see minus seven after the first quarter.

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Speaker 2: They won the game by forty. Yeah, when they win

1138
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: every game by like forty, So.

1139
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: Like the value of like that is, like, dude, it's awesome,

1140
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: Like you get so much value, okay see, because the

1141
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 3: way they that they play, well, well.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it, like forget the betting for stamp

1143
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: for a second. From a competitive standpoint from the league,

1144
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: like the health of the league. It's not good to

1145
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: have a team I think head and sholders above everybody else.

1146
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: You like that, I don't think I only never could

1147
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: beat them, so.

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing is you need in sports, you need

1149
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 3: a villain in my opinion, to be to drive ratings

1150
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: and people to root against. And okayc he's going to

1151
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 3: get in a villain territory, especially with the way SJ.

1152
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 3: Plays and the way that they officiate him. I think

1153
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 3: people do not like it, and I think it's good

1154
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Speaker 3: for the NBA. If you have a team like this,

1155
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 3: everyone roots against in essence, right, and everyone's upset about

1156
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 3: and there's talking about I mean, look, every time every

1157
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: time okay See plays, my at least my social media

1158
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: feed is just is filled with people showing clips of

1159
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: like SJ barely being touched and being called you know,

1160
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: and the foul being called right, and like there's a

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Speaker 3: I think there's a growing resentment of the way he's

1162
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: treated by fans in the NBA, and I think that

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01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: actually helps ratings. It helps people watch because they're rooting

1164
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: for them to lose. Like that's a part of sport, right.

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 3: People watch the Patriots want them to lose for years.

1166
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 3: People watch the Cheeks want them lose for years. I'm

1167
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: curious if the ratings net that out over the years,

1168
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 3: if okay See does become some sort of dynasty here.

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Speaker 3: But I do think I do think people are hate

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Speaker 3: watching okay See. I will hate watch them at some point. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. They officiate him so he's so soft,

1172
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: it's so soft. It's it's.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I love his mid rage game.

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Speaker 3: It's great, but he gets a lot of foul calls

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: that are like, I think the kids ball are bad.

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01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: Let's not disagree with that. I think that's complained why.

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Speaker 2: People are gonna watch because of it though kid Kid

1178
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: bawls out. Man, my man, my man balls out. I

1179
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: love that, Sha.

1180
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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I got no sympathy for like

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01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 3: I think this.

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01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: I I think that team is just so much better

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01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: than anybody else. And I I hear you on the

1184
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: hate Watch, but I don't know, man, I you need

1185
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: you need. You said something that I think is right.

1186
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: You need a villain, but you need somebody that can

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01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: beat the villain. If o case he's a villain. I

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01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: don't think they're a villain type of team. But whatever,

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: because they're gonna win so much, people will resent that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I think you're you're looking

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: at a run, a major run.

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Speaker 3: Just because they have that all those picks. Yeah, who uh,

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01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 3: who's the who? Again? Like, who's the the team to

1194
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 3: probably to throw them would only be denver. I know

1195
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: what in the East is doing it?

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01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: Now?

1197
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 3: Know what the East is closed?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll agree with you that Denver's probably the.

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Speaker 3: Only team that could play with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but even then, I don't I don't think I

1201
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: think that was an anomly. I think now that they're

1202
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: that they're rolling. I think they beat Denver, you know,

1203
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: five or six? Yeah, I mean Denver. They're rolling right

1204
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: now like they're you watch them play like they've hit

1205
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 2: it peaked out right, like they got over their hump

1206
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: last year and now they're just they're just nasty.

1207
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: I dude, I do disagree. And again, like if you're

1208
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 3: in the wagering purposes, like they're a good team and

1209
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: just live wager man, it's like it's fun to wait

1210
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: drop on them, and I got that that big befom.

1211
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: They continue to win game. This win games finally me, man,

1212
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 3: can win as many games as you want. And then

1213
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 3: too like they they want this record too, by the way,

1214
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah I would too. Yeah, like to care to play?

1215
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: No, it's just history. You want to make history. This

1216
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: is history. This is awesome.

1217
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: I listen.

1218
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I I I love that team,

1219
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: like I like the players, I love their work ethic,

1220
01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 2: I love.

1221
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Speaker 3: Play though personally I just can't stand it watching Chet play.

1222
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: It's too soft. You can't do it, all right, Well

1223
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 3: that's j is fun to watch their team is fun.

1224
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 3: I like I like to play defense. Ches's just too

1225
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 3: soft for me. Man, I can't do it. I just

1226
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 3: can't do it. I just can't. I just I can't.

1227
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't. You can't be that big and

1228
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 3: like get out rebounded by dudes in the paints.

1229
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: You know that's what he kind of what he is.

1230
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 3: Well, I know, just like you like take a rebound

1231
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 3: off the rim for once, can you do it just

1232
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 3: one time for me?

1233
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well no, I'm asking the flaw on the player

1234
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: like he's a face the basket dude, Why.

1235
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 3: No, I can I get it? It can still bother me,

1236
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: all right. I understand what. I understand what he is.

1237
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 3: I just like like once, you know, like well, like

1238
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: a small gust of wind can blow him over. I can't.

1239
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: I just can't do it. I can't do it.

1240
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you have to have a basis of

1241
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: expect of expectations. No, not total like it like you

1242
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: know like when you go in, you watch it, you

1243
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: watch the kid play, you know you know what he is,

1244
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: like you know what he is coming out of cope

1245
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: like you know what he kid is like, he's a

1246
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: face basket player and that's what he is. Like. He's

1247
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: not going to turn into a tough guy.

1248
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 3: I understand. Let's I don't like it, all right. He

1249
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 3: entertained my opinion on this. I understand all the variables here.

1250
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, all right, let's get

1251
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: back to the NFL. So the Eagles have lost three straight,

1252
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: have they? They didn't know they opened up the offense

1253
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 2: last week and Jalen threw four.

1254
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 3: Picks that that was opening up the offense. Well, you

1255
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: saw them go in between the numbers downfield. So their

1256
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 3: offense is just all kind of messed up. Sometimes you

1257
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: watch the routes, You're like, what are we doing here?

1258
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 3: What is this guy's in the same place? No one

1259
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 3: breaking off for hats or sites, no run or reason.

1260
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 3: They're doing things just kind of like and I think, look,

1261
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts is, I don't know what the right wad

1262
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 3: He's just he's not He's a he's a a player

1263
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 3: at that position at quarterback who has limitations compared to

1264
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 3: his peers, right, And we're seeing that on a weekly

1265
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 3: basis when things just aren't going as well as they

1266
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 3: have in the past. He's just not the player who's

1267
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 3: good enough at that position, I think to make it right.

1268
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 2: For his team.

1269
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 3: And like that's sort of like the thing we've all

1270
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 3: said about Hurts like winner, good guy, like all those

1271
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: things are. When it's great, it's great. When it's not,

1272
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: it's just not good. And he's like not a guy

1273
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 3: that it seems, at least right now, to be able

1274
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: to overcome when things are not perfect and when the

1275
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 3: offense line isn't good anymore, and when the run game

1276
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 3: is is non existent, and so again, I don't I

1277
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 3: think the OC is not helping. I think the OC

1278
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 3: is very you know, not good. I do love, by

1279
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 3: the way, when there's a scandal in uh in sports

1280
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: and people tweet out like, hey, Michigan, I heard Kevin

1281
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 3: Petula is also talking to an intern, like you can

1282
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: fire him too. Like those tweets to me, I just

1283
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 3: love those are like they're very funny. And that's like

1284
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 3: all eagle stands are like, hey, hey Michigan, Like this

1285
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: guy's also causing problems. Come get rid of him too.

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Speaker 3: Uh OC just not good enough in Philly? Is none

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Speaker 3: of it's good enough right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know there's a there's a couple of things.

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01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: One the O C c OC and you know he's

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01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: been This is been an issue going on for a

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01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: long time. It predates Patulo. This offense. The best it

1292
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 2: looked was in twenty two. That was the year they

1293
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl loss to Kansas City. That

1294
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: was a year that they were a true RPO offense.

1295
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: And Hertz's was great, right because they were going downhill.

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 2: He had movement, he had throwing lanes. Teams really struggled

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Speaker 2: to defend the RPO. And once they figured out how

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01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: to defend the RPO, this offense started to stall. I

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 2: mean even last year, as dominant as they were, it

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01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: was because of the run game. Yeah, I mean they were.

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01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean Saqua was hitting the home runs like we

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01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: never saw. Out of the run game, their pass game

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01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: was still bogged down. And if you recall the first

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01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: four games of the season last year, they struggled.

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01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: There were two and two.

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01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: Syriana was about to be fired until they went all right,

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: well let's just kind of make us a downhill run team.

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: And so the pass game has had issues. We got

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: to take quick too, but the pass games that issue

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01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: for years. So a three dates. Patullo is the issue.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick to you. We'll continue the conversation

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01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: talking to NFL. Back to college coming up in Little

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01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: Army Navy. We're gonna have some picks for you Rams Lions.

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Speaker 2: That's another great game. Can the Cowboys shock the world

1315
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Speaker 2: with the Eagles languishing? We'll talk about that as well.

1316
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Speaker 2: Where the fella is right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Fellas. Every goal starts with an assist on

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Speaker 2: Haleyon assist dot com. So we're just talking about the

1324
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: NFC a little bit. In the Eagles and what to do.

1325
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: There was a report Jeremy Follon from ESPN said the

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01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: teams are expecting Howie Roseman to draft a quarterback. They

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 2: also have Tanner McKee. It'll be interesting to see how

1328
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 2: the story ends. Of twenty twenty five. I mean, you're

1329
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: not gonna bench Jalen now, I mean, that would be foolish.

1330
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 2: You're not gonna do that. You do that, you lose them.

1331
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 2: You're not gonna do that. So you're gonna try to

1332
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: kind of get him through this spell. Can you win

1333
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: by being a I have a great defense? Can you

1334
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: win by playing ultra conservative? Is that possible? Jeff No,

1335
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I also don't believe they're drafting

1336
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: a quarter It's not a good quarterback year in the

1337
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: first I mean it's not even the first round. Is

1338
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 2: not even a great opportunity. You're not gonna have one

1339
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: probably this year.

1340
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't totally buy that, to be honest

1341
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 3: with you.

1342
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: But well I buy this. They're gonna look for a

1343
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,839
Speaker 2: project quarterback to develop. Sure, sure, so how he always

1344
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: does that and it hurts. Isn't the quarterback next year?

1345
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: If something happens and Jalen's not here, they do have

1346
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: it and out in.

1347
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 3: The sure, but they also, I mean, the key would

1348
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 3: be the guy. I mean, you know, but a lot

1349
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 3: of teams do that. Though that's not like any that's

1350
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 3: not like in my opinion of reportable news, like the

1351
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 3: Patriots did that every two years after the quarterback in

1352
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 3: the third round, like yeah, I got you, Yeah, I

1353
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 3: feel yeah.

1354
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: I mean it was a Jeremy report, but it was

1355
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: it's more salacious when the starter is struggling, right, So

1356
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 2: that's why it was reported that way.

1357
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 3: I just I don't think you can you can be

1358
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 3: conservative like that and win a It has to be

1359
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 3: a very very specific way to win when you do that.

1360
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Speaker 3: And I don't think that's the Eagles right.

1361
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: Now now what they're lying the way it is because

1362
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: you got to lean in the run game, like you know.

1363
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 3: And Lane is just you know that. It's funny the

1364
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 3: splits for the Eagles when Layane plays and doesn't play.

1365
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 3: It's a big, big difference in that when when that

1366
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 3: happens to by the way, which again I don't know

1367
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 3: how much.

1368
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: Well, he'll be back next week. He was going to

1369
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: be back this week, but you got a little set back.

1370
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: He'll be back next week.

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01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: How is not He's not He's making all the rest

1372
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 3: of the season. That's my concern too. He's just the age.

1373
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you know it beat up. I mean the

1374
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 3: hopes like yeah and uh and so yeah, I don't

1375
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 3: think so. I just think the Rams are a lot

1376
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 3: better right now and they're just a complete team at

1377
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 3: the moment.

1378
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, it's gonna be fun to see Rams

1379
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 2: and Lions on Sunday. The question is, like, man, with

1380
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: that secondary banged up the way it is, good lines

1381
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: just get just crushed every year now, it seems. But

1382
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: with that secondary banged up, what staff are going to do?

1383
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: My god, he's on fire with Pooka last week. Anytime

1384
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: you're inside the five, Davante wins every route.

1385
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's amazing.

1386
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:42,839
Speaker 2: He's unstoppable inside you know, inside the five yard line.

1387
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: They're gonna put up a lot of points.

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01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 3: They are. So this number is interesting because there's a

1389
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 3: couple of numbers this week where you're like, really, that's

1390
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 3: that's the number, this one right, like in this in

1391
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 3: this game, you're like, wait that the number is is?

1392
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 3: Uh is six? Six? And you realize how all the

1393
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 3: Rams are playing on the line's injuries, and you're like, yeah, okay,

1394
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 3: six makes sense. Actually, like the Rams at six, I mean,

1395
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 3: I'm in on that. So that's that's you know that

1396
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: that's a The Rams are just that much better than

1397
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 3: the lines right now?

1398
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I don't know, I don't

1399
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 2: know how you do. I don't know how. I'm with you.

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. You know, I

1401
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: don't know how you do it. Yeah, I mean, because

1402
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: I look at that Rams offense. It's just incredible, right,

1403
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: Like Stavords is when he's healthy, I mean, you know,

1404
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: is he could put it through a mouse fall. But

1405
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: then you got those two receivers. I mean, you know, man,

1406
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 2: they're tough. They're really tough. Uh. And then elsewhere in

1407
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: the NFC, I mean, Thursday night's gonna be fascinating because

1408
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: that's the rematch of Rams in Seattle.

1409
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 3: So I wish this game was I wish this game

1410
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 3: was a Sunday game because I feel like this would

1411
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 3: be a game where both teams gonna full way to

1412
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 3: prepare for the game, you know, between Stantle and Los Angeles.

1413
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 3: I hate it's Thursday night. I just I just it

1414
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 3: just feels like in a game where it determines maybe

1415
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 3: the one seed the division, I wish they could play

1416
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 3: when they're both like fully prepared for an entire week

1417
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 3: of practice.

1418
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I agree that level of game at this

1419
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: juncture of the year, it should be on a full week.

1420
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 3: I agreed.

1421
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, Big Hour coming up next.

1422
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 2: All right, we're covered back to college or Army Navy

1423
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Speaker 2: NFL fellas on Fox's.

1424
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

1425
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning, Heavy Heavy Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Army Navy Day, First Bowl game starting wild. I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, it's it's it is wild. And then a

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1429
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Speaker 3: And it's the holiday season.

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:32,000
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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,479
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Speaker 2: bit later on the Brain will join us, will go

1446
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: over everything from a betting standpoint. I know it's Jeff's favorite,

1447
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: Jeff and the Brain. It's a mutual love going on

1448
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: right there. Yeah.

1449
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 3: I had Stephen F. Austin last night, and I woke

1450
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: up this morning to see a late field goal by

1451
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 3: Montana State to ruin that wager. So not not fun.

1452
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: It was an FCS playoff betas stuff. Well, today I got,

1453
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 3: I got. I got Army Navy first quarter under seven

1454
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 3: and a half. How about that?

1455
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,440
Speaker 2: Usually an I'm the rights for last year went over? Yeah, yeah,

1456
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,839
Speaker 2: anything with your Boise in Washington.

1457
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 3: I like Bois's date plus ten. Yeah.

1458
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 2: The only trick for these ball games, it's got to

1459
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: figure out who's playing correct.

1460
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 3: Well, so here's the way I look at bowl games.

1461
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 3: You have to target a couple of things. One is

1462
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 3: who's playing. We just don't know. You have a sort

1463
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: of guess. But but more importantly than me, it's about

1464
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 3: motivation and coaching staff. So I'll give you two bets

1465
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 3: I've made so far. The numbers moved San Diego State

1466
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 3: I got plus six against North Texas. So North Texas

1467
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: loses the American Conference CHAMPIONIP game, right, so they were

1468
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 3: they were gonna go to the playoff. They won that game.

1469
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: Not only did they lose that, they they they lost big. Okay,

1470
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 3: their coach left, their quarterbacks probably leaving. What motivation do

1471
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 3: they have to play in a ball game in San

1472
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: Diego State, I don't think very much. Where the Aztecs

1473
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 3: had a great season under Sean Lewis, they're highly motivated

1474
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 3: to win this bowl game and finished our years strong.

1475
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 3: They don't have it any if opt outs probably right,

1476
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 3: no one's transferring at the moment, right, I in this

1477
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 3: game goes off at a pick them. I got plus Still,

1478
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: you can still find three. Those are games to target, right.

1479
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: Louisville hosting a Memphis team that's just new coach, right,

1480
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 3: didn't finish very strong. Louisville just won forty one. Le

1481
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 3: excuse me. They're facing Toledo. I'm sorry, Toledo's coach left

1482
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 3: to Yukon. I just think there's no motivation for Toledo

1483
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 3: in this game, right, Like I just just there's just none.

1484
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 3: So those are the opportunities, in my opinion, to target in.

1485
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 3: Uh in these in these bowl games, that makes sense. Yeah,

1486
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 3: it feels early. But today it is ridiculous that there

1487
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 3: is a bowl game tonight. Well you know, it's wild.

1488
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 3: It's like it's on right, Like you got a game tonight.

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: And by the way, on ABC at prime time children,

1490
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 2: where sports is at that? It's ABC prime time on

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01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 2: a Saturday night. Boys, you Washington. After that, you got

1492
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:17,480
Speaker 2: games Tuesday night, you got the Veterans Sloop, the Veterans Bowl. Wednesday,

1493
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: you got two bawls, The Man the Staff, DNA Cure

1494
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: Bawl and the and the Ventures Bowl. Thursday you got

1495
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: a bawl. Friday, you got two in the afternoon. And

1496
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 2: then the playoffs start. Alabama Oklahoma in the rematch, Bama

1497
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: is one and a half in the rematch.

1498
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the rematch is to me the first game. Uh

1499
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 3: do you ever look at a postgame with expectancy by

1500
01:24:55,760 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 3: any chance? College? So basically that's just you know, if

1501
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 3: you just look at the raw numbers of the game. Okay,

1502
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: I look at the role.

1503
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: I look at the numbers like you know, I look

1504
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 2: at I look at first down, time, possession, turnovers.

1505
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you just take so the post game

1506
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 3: will win expectancy. It's just about looking at the numbers

1507
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 3: as they are and determining who should have won the

1508
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 3: game based off the numbers correct, Like, that's all it is. Okay,

1509
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 3: So I do that in the old school.

1510
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: I look at yardage.

1511
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: Ye yeah, yeah, Okay. So Alabama that lost that game

1512
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 3: twenty three to twenty one had a postgame win expectancy

1513
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: of ninety five percent out played Oklahoma. Turnovers doomed them, right,

1514
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 3: So what about this game is any different? Oklahoma can't

1515
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 3: score an offense, they shock on offense. I'm not really

1516
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,839
Speaker 3: as concerned about the home field advantage here for Oklahoma.

1517
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 3: I think I think a lot of these teams are

1518
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 3: pretty used to playing road games, Like Alabama went to

1519
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 3: Georgia won this year. I don't really don't. I don't

1520
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 3: really think that that's a big of an issues we

1521
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 3: make it out to me. Now, maybe the weather would be,

1522
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 3: but I think I think I saw it supposed to

1523
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 3: be sixty seven degrees or sixty five degrees, so that

1524
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: that that's not a problem for Alabama. I don't know

1525
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 3: why this game is any different than the first game,

1526
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 3: other than Alabama just wins because they're better, Like they

1527
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: played better the first game and just didn't. They just

1528
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,919
Speaker 3: didn't win the game because of turnovers. If you eliminate

1529
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 3: two of those turnovers, the game is Albama win by

1530
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 3: a touchdown.

1531
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at it the same way. The problem

1532
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 2: is is that Oklahoma's got no offense. It can't go

1533
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 2: down the field. No, you know, and I love Oklahoma's defense,

1534
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 2: but it'll break. It's going to break.

1535
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 3: So thinking about defense, We've talked about this before. It's

1536
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 3: it's important. Note here you know what's a good example

1537
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 3: of this, Chiefs Texans from from last week. But I'll

1538
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 3: give you the thing. So you know, defense is an

1539
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 3: emotional position, right, A lot of emotion on defense. Offense

1540
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 3: is less emotional, right, it's a it's a controlled it's

1541
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: more controlled control, right, you playner control. Defense is more emotion, right,

1542
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 3: it's like physicality and violence. And so you do an

1543
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 3: offense too like your reactionary right. I think the defense

1544
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 3: needs a lot more support from the offense, and the

1545
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 3: offense needs support from the defense, right, Like our job

1546
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 3: on offense is to score as many points as possible

1547
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 3: all the time. Correct, And no matter how about the

1548
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: defense is playing, we can go out and fix it

1549
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 3: by scoring points. Right, Defensively, if you don't get help

1550
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 3: from the offense over sixty minutes, it's very hard to

1551
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: play as good as you can without some help, right

1552
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 3: because eventually you're gonna have you because it's field position too,

1553
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 3: like that's part of it too. But also you know defense,

1554
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 3: you're on the field too long, right, that that tends

1555
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: to affect the defense. And we saw last week with

1556
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 3: Kansas City they were playing great on defense until that

1557
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: fourth down, and then when you don't feel like you're

1558
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: being supported by the offense, you just have a little

1559
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 3: bit of a letdown. You just naturally just happens all

1560
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 3: the time. So for Oklahoma, if they can, if their

1561
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: offense can't help them in this game over sixty minutes,

1562
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 3: you just get tired, you get frustrated, you don't play

1563
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 3: as hard. Now you break, not on purpose, of course,

1564
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 3: but you break. So that's a to me, that's a

1565
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: way to preview some of these games where you look

1566
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 3: at and you say, look, but the defense is great,

1567
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 3: but can the offense support them a little bit? And

1568
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: I only Ohoma can do that right now, So I

1569
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 3: lean Alabama in this game. I'm curious what the brain thinks,

1570
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 3: not and that with tears hand the way it is,

1571
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 3: he's not been the same since he came back. Correct.

1572
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, then Saturday, so the best games of the

1573
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: day is at noon.

1574
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 3: The first one.

1575
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's A and M in Miami, which I love

1576
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: A and M in that game.

1577
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 3: Oh I like Miami. Okay, well you do? Oh good? Yeah?

1578
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that and M.

1579
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 3: So we haven't we haven't done this discussion yet, but

1580
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 3: we talked a little bit the playoff earlier. So you know,

1581
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 3: there's anger, of course with these two group of five

1582
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 3: teams being in. And here here's the thing, guys, the

1583
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 3: way it worked out this year is Acy's fault. But

1584
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 3: they had to put to it right just the way

1585
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 3: it was formatted. It is what it is. That you

1586
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 3: can't change it. So let's not be angry about that.

1587
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 3: The problem with the group of five teams being in, okay,

1588
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 3: is whatever you say, these games are going to be blowouts.

1589
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 3: The counter that is, well, we had blow us last

1590
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 3: year and we've had over the years. The difference, of course,

1591
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 3: it's a big difference, okay, is that we went into

1592
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 3: the game where Tennessee played Ohio State believing that could

1593
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 3: be a close game. We previewed that game believing it

1594
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 3: could be a close game. I I don't know how

1595
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 3: to preview Oregon jmu. I don't Jamie's defense is good.

1596
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 3: I get it. Every player who starts on Oregan's offense

1597
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 3: is the best player at that position that James Madison's

1598
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 3: played in the entire season. Like the center, it's the

1599
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 3: best center. They played the tight end the best time,

1600
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 3: and they played the backup wide receiver is the best

1601
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 3: wide receiver they played all season. How do I preview

1602
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 3: a game where this is the best James Madison is

1603
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 3: seeing the entire season, where for Oregon this is the

1604
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 3: seventh defense they played like James Madison this season. You know,

1605
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 3: like I can't earnestly preview that game because of this.

1606
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. And I'm not saying you have to

1607
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 3: change the platform because I can't preview the game. But

1608
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 3: it's a legitimate thing, like how do you preview old

1609
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 3: miss dude?

1610
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Now, you're right, listen, it's about drumming up interested excitement,

1611
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 2: and you can't. It's too lopsided, one sided. And here's

1612
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 2: the issue is the NFL starts playing on Saturdays, yeah,

1613
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: next week, No, it's next week. Next week it's Eagles

1614
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: Washington and Green Bay Chicago.

1615
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 3: Which is a great Eagles Washington obviously is a different,

1616
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 3: you know, different, different thing now. But I mean, like

1617
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the but but hear me out, So

1618
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 3: whatever you figu about Eagles Washington, that's a five o'clock start,

1619
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 3: all right.

1620
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 2: The night game, which would go up against Oregon and

1621
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: Chulane is Bears Packers.

1622
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 3: That's a that's a great game. That's interesting, Remats, it's

1623
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 3: the whole thing. That's really a cold weather. It could

1624
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 3: be snow, like only you will be watching Oregon. James Madison,

1625
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm watch so like I'm looking at at the roster

1626
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 3: right now for for jam you look the starting roster right,

1627
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 3: so they're starting left def it'sive tackle, okay, is six

1628
01:31:55,040 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 3: feet six feet tall. The left tackles six foot tall. No, no, no,

1629
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 3: the left the starting defensive tackle, defensive defensive tackle right

1630
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 3: is is six feet two ninety. Their other defensive tackle

1631
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 3: is six two two eighties. That's a little bit better.

1632
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 3: But like it's just their physically, I just don't know

1633
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 3: how to like what their line look like. So like

1634
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 3: their left tackle is six six three twenty. That's good

1635
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 3: the left guard. I'm againing this. I think this is

1636
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 3: the right six to two. He's six to two, uh three,

1637
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 3: three point thirty. I'm unconcerned about them scoring any point.

1638
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 3: I think James j James Madison is not going to score.

1639
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 3: They're total th think thirteen and a half. I don't

1640
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 3: think they're gonna score and anything. I don't. I don't.

1641
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna score very much. I can't pass. They

1642
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 3: can't pass the ball then, But.

1643
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 2: That's the shame of it, Like it's the playoffs and

1644
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 2: you got this ridiculous I don't even know why it

1645
01:32:58,320 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 2: was it was written up this way.

1646
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 3: Well, I think they never thought that situation where like

1647
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 3: you just don't have a group of you know, you

1648
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 3: just don't have like someone. You just don't expect there

1649
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 3: to be a situation where no one like is they

1650
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 3: just just can't do it. I mean, like my gold

1651
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 3: is to watch them JMU film just to gain just

1652
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 3: to get a general sense of like where they're at.

1653
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 3: I guess I don't. I feel bad. I feel it's

1654
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 3: not their fault. This is that I feel this way. Look,

1655
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 3: I just put the like I just put on the

1656
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 3: Washington State game, because I think that at least I

1657
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,799
Speaker 3: could get a little bit. Like Washington has some bigger bodies,

1658
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 3: and like they're starting defensive line. One of their d

1659
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 3: their d end is six one two forty.

1660
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1661
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 3: Another guy gets six two two eighty. Their nose tackle

1662
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 3: is six feet six one three point fifty.

1663
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 2: Uh.

1664
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 3: The other guy who's playing down the box looks like

1665
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 3: you're like, in he's got in line. I was on

1666
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 3: the left guard is number fifteenyear. I'm looking at the

1667
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 3: roster right here. He ain't very big. So you know,

1668
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 3: just again like it's just it's this is what it's

1669
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 3: not even on the roster right now. He might have

1670
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 3: got hurt. Uh, It's just there's not big enough to

1671
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 3: compete in this game.

1672
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 2: It's like it's that's something that's the problem, and that's

1673
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: the problem with It's not basketball. Like you know, listen,

1674
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: you could have Cinderella and you know, one out of

1675
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 2: every you know, ten times you'll beat you know, Caroline

1676
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: or whatever, Duke. It doesn't happen to football because of

1677
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 2: what you're talking about, because the line play, you just

1678
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 2: can't have that. We saw that with teams like Louisville.

1679
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 2: Remember when Louisville went like we saw that, We've seen

1680
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 2: it historically, like there's you're not you can't have Cinderella

1681
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 2: in football doesn't work.

1682
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 3: People will point to you, see if being all in

1683
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 3: a bowl game, it's not the same thing as a

1684
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 3: playoff game, It's not. It's not it's Auburn loss as

1685
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 3: the championship game that year. It's just not the same thing.

1686
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 2: This is.

1687
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 3: This is just a much different It's just much different.

1688
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 3: It's not the same thing.

1689
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 2: No, it's it's not even close. And because you had that,

1690
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 2: you had that one blue snow like. It really frustrates

1691
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: me because I love the playoffs. I love the whole thing,

1692
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 2: and I feel like we got cheated. And this is

1693
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 2: this was what rankled me about Notre Dame. It's not

1694
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: about being a Notre Dame fan, because I'm not. You know,

1695
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 2: I like them, but I'm not a fan. And here's

1696
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 2: the thing. I just feel cheated as a college football

1697
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 2: fan that I don't get them a team that I

1698
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 2: think is third I have as a third but you know,

1699
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 2: arguably anywhere from three, four, five best team in the

1700
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 2: country that makes the playoffs more interesting.

1701
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 3: I totally agree. Yeah, so I don't want to see

1702
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 3: Alabama Oklahoma again. I have no desire of that.

1703
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they screwed this thing up, geez, just a million

1704
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 2: ways for Sunday. It's amazing.

1705
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna go back redo the whole thing.

1706
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 2: And then the other thing that they're gonna have to

1707
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 2: do is these that conference championship weekend.

1708
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 3: They have to change that whole structure of it.

1709
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1710
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 3: So I do wonder if Conference Championship weekend will eventually

1711
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 3: just become a play in game for for like the

1712
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 3: Big Ten in sec like like to choose a fourth

1713
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 3: team or something. That's why I think we're heading too well,

1714
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 3: by the way, that makes sense to me. Yeah, you

1715
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 3: don't you set luke warm on it. No, I think

1716
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 3: it's I just don't know what iteration it's gonna be,

1717
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 3: I think, But I do think it's gonna happen, Yes,

1718
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,560
Speaker 3: And and you want it to happen, correct. I do

1719
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 3: like it would be us Michigan playing for the like

1720
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 3: a playoff spot for the Big Ten this week? It

1721
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 3: was what you know what it would have been, right,

1722
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 3: all right? Because that that to me, that's what it

1723
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 3: has to be, is something like that. I got to

1724
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 3: tell you I mean I look at it and I go,

1725
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 3: you know, why else do you playing?

1726
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Like?

1727
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: It was nice seeing the adda winning game and I

1728
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 2: watched it, but it didn't mean anything, correct, you know.

1729
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's an issue. And then I don't know,

1730
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 2: do you think that they're going to somehow incorporate all

1731
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 2: the balls too, or at least some of them? No, No,

1732
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 2: that will always remain separate.

1733
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 3: I didn't. I think we're gonna lose. I think we're

1734
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 3: gonna lose a lot of balls. Yeah, I think the

1735
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 3: main step and maybe like that, you know, maybe a

1736
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 3: holiday bowled alimble bowl get wrapped.

1737
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 2: In there's money, though, I still don't know you're gonna

1738
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 2: lose balls if there's money.

1739
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 3: Well, because people still watch them. Correct, But so like

1740
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 3: the Fiesta and well no, not the big balls. So

1741
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 3: like the Alamobile, the holiday ball will become part of

1742
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 3: like the expanded playoffs. What you're saying, yes, yeah, it's

1743
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 3: fair to say, Yeah, that's fair. I mean it just

1744
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 3: kind of makes sense to me.

1745
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll take a quick too, we'll come back,

1746
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 2: the brain will join us, and we'll kind of sus

1747
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 2: out the college landscape. We'll lead with army Navy because

1748
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: we got to talk a little bit more Army Navy

1749
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 2: about the game and you know what we think. And

1750
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 2: then of course we'll go through the ball game that

1751
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 2: night and all day tomorrow. Lots to get to with

1752
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 2: the brain from a betting angle. Of course, he's Jeff,

1753
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Speaker 2: Ah, welcome back to Fellas with you guys hanging thanks

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Speaker 2: should be. All right, let's go to ourman, the brain.

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Speaker 2: What do you say, Labraine, Hey.

1779
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 8: Good morning, Good morning to you, my friend.

1780
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 3: How are you all right?

1781
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 2: Always fun we Jeff and I chopping up and always

1782
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 2: great talking football. And it's a great time of the year.

1783
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 2: So Army Navy today. How do you look at at

1784
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 2: this game?

1785
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 3: Buddy?

1786
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 2: It's an iconic I love Army Navy game. I loved

1787
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 2: it when we were kids because you're from Stup like

1788
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 2: I am. And when it was played the VET and

1789
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 2: you saw all the servicemen in town for the whole

1790
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 2: week leading up to the game.

1791
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 3: I loved it.

1792
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like it's funny. It's one of the things that

1793
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 8: was on my bucket list. And I've been there a

1794
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 8: few times and it's recommended to anyone to go, oh, look,

1795
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 8: Navy's had a great year. I mean, they really had

1796
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 8: a really really nice season. Line sitting at six and

1797
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 8: a half MAB, I just can't. And it's interesting this

1798
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 8: game went over under Anta fourteen straight years, and now

1799
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 8: it's gone over the last three years. It's two oho

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01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 8: to one to the over Look. They had a really

1801
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 8: good win over South Florida. I respect quite a bit,

1802
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 8: but it just seems like whenever these two teams play,

1803
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 8: it just seems like these games are just always so tight.

1804
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 8: And I'm just heading into lay six and a half

1805
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 8: points in a game when it just seems like whenever

1806
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 8: these two teams play, there's a like a magnet makes

1807
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 8: them close together. Lean here to the dog. But I

1808
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 8: do respect, maybe I think they're a good team, just

1809
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 8: the rivalry factor. It just makes me lean to the

1810
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 8: dog because she's like, whenever they play, these games are tight.

1811
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 3: I like, first quarter under seven and a half points.

1812
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: Do you agree with me?

1813
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 8: I do, because again, one of the things about that

1814
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 8: is again it takes obviously, you know, it takes two scores,

1815
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 8: and obviously the second quarter and fourth quarter of the

1816
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 8: most highest scoring quarters because you're not going to get

1817
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 8: any hurry up offense, Jeff in like quarter number one

1818
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 8: at all, and you're going to need a touchdown to

1819
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 8: beat you factually, which may not happen. And the field

1820
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 8: goal it's again, yes, I do agree with you. I

1821
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 8: think it's uh. I would much rather have that than

1822
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:39,759
Speaker 8: under in the game total, because I think that actually

1823
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 8: is a much better play.

1824
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 3: I also quickly the other Bowl game tonight, I like

1825
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 3: Boise getting ten.

1826
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 8: I know Bowl games are up big number, very big number.

1827
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Washington does not play as good away from home.

1828
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 3: There's like no motivation really for Washington this game. And

1829
01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 3: that's where I bet Bowl games a lot motivation. I

1830
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 3: don't think Boise is a ton of optime mean, left

1831
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 3: tackle is not playing, but otherwise I think anyone else

1832
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 3: is playing. I like Boise getting ten points tonight. Am

1833
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 3: I crazy?

1834
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 2: No?

1835
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 8: I don't think you're and I don't think you're crazy

1836
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 8: at all, and I don't would tell you. But what's

1837
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 8: Boise's motivation though? Either, I mean you can say that

1838
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 8: probably about both situation.

1839
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 3: The motivation is they're playing a power a power conference team,

1840
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 3: and I think I think, I think, I think though,

1841
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 3: I think Mound West teams and group of five teams

1842
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 3: really care about beating these big boys.

1843
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 8: Sure. Well, you know what's interesting? What is Washington dumb

1844
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 8: this year? I have to be honest, like, this is

1845
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 8: a game I would actually like Boise with the money

1846
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 8: line too. What is the ten playing favorite thing? Well, no,

1847
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 8: think about this. They're saying, this is almost impossible for

1848
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 8: Boise to win. I don't think I've seen anything out

1849
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 8: of Washington this year at all to make me think

1850
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 8: there's some behemoth that that can't be beaten. I think

1851
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 8: these teams are in the same weight class. Yeah, I

1852
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 8: think Boise getting cans too many points.

1853
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 2: I mean they did play. I mean they played Oregon tough.

1854
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:57,759
Speaker 8: They got out played thoroughly.

1855
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they I mean they kept it close.

1856
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 3: The final scores alone miss leading because of it is

1857
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 3: and there it's thirty three fourteen no no, but.

1858
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 8: But also in fairness, in fairness, I actually had Washington

1859
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 8: in that game and I lost. But they they got

1860
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 8: out played, like they couldn't move the ball offensively at all. Yeah,

1861
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 8: I mean I thought Oregon was clearly in control of

1862
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 8: the entire way in my opinions at least. But obviously, look,

1863
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 8: that's a tough game. You know, of course Oregon should

1864
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 8: beat them, and they did, but I'm just saying, and

1865
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 8: all their big games this year, I felt like Washington

1866
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 8: really was very block when they stepped up in class.

1867
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:35,640
Speaker 8: Not that they're stepping up in class here that they're not,

1868
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 8: but I just don't think there's a huge difference between

1869
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 8: these two teams.

1870
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:44,919
Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, let's move over to the NFL.

1871
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 2: All right, So we've been talking a lot about New

1872
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 2: England Buffalo. How do you approach the rematch?

1873
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 8: Well, you know, and to me, it's it's interesting, like

1874
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 8: I feel like sometimes Sister Power rated based on how

1875
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 8: they is supposed to be before the year started, and

1876
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 8: there's just there's just not going to be an adjustment.

1877
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 8: Like to me, again, I think New England has been

1878
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 8: better than Buffalo all season. I don't understand why they're

1879
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 8: an underdog here. I really don't. I thought New England

1880
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 8: should be a slight favorite. Again, I made a line

1881
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 8: like New England vibe two. It came in Buffalo, I

1882
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 8: think one one and a half right now. I like

1883
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 8: the New England try. I think they've been the better

1884
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 8: team all year, and I think Buffalo is a flawed

1885
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 8: team that's the best player in the NFL. But I

1886
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 8: think that this is one of the rare matchups where

1887
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 8: there's a quarterback that can at least stand up with

1888
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,719
Speaker 8: him and not be totally outplayssed. I think May is terrific.

1889
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 8: I think New England wins this one. I mean it'll

1890
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 8: be a high scoring New England win.

1891
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 3: Buffalo's defencse. I just I just don't trust speak about

1892
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 3: like power, power ratings. I I I get how they work.

1893
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't get the Chiefs love. I still don't get

1894
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 3: it that I'll cover in five weeks. Yeah, now maybe

1895
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 3: close to cover, and they've won one to last five

1896
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 3: games haw Man close to covering. I know the Charge

1897
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,560
Speaker 3: have their own problems. I get it, but five and

1898
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 3: a half man just feels like I don't get it.

1899
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 3: I'm on the Chargers here. I think the Charge win

1900
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,560
Speaker 3: this game. I don't know why the Chiefs have this

1901
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 3: trust they're not the same team this season.

1902
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, Jeff Alenter like this, and Anthony is obviously

1903
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 8: a huge Philly guy, and so the Eagles people just

1904
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 8: want to keep thinking that their offense is good because

1905
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 8: they won the Super Bowl last year and they different

1906
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 8: for seven ten straight weeks. They keep showing you their

1907
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 8: offenses not great, but they continue to get respective being

1908
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 8: in this elite offense which people must not watch them

1909
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 8: play offensively. The Chief's kind of similar situation. But I

1910
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 8: in this pigular game, Jeff, I, and this is maybe

1911
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 8: more of an anti Charger play to me. I think

1912
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 8: the Chargers are another team that is just a one

1913
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 8: man band at the highest level.

1914
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 3: At their own line. God, they have no tackles.

1915
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually think Jeff, this is going to be

1916
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 8: a win by margin on the green with you the

1917
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 8: line teams high based off the resumes. I will not

1918
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 8: argue that if you just put the resumes again, this

1919
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 8: is two teams putting at the resumes, you'd say that

1920
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 8: the Chiefs are the inferior team, let alone lank five

1921
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 8: and a half points. But I just think that Chargers

1922
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 8: are one of the most overachieving teams in football, and

1923
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 8: I just think they're gonna have a hard time here,

1924
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 8: I really do. I don't trust their passing game right

1925
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 8: now at all. They can't protect Herbert. I just think

1926
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 8: it's a they not get injuries. Jeff. I actually would

1927
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 8: have been very really like to see what happened to

1928
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 8: the Chargers team, and they're gonna go to the Super Bowl.

1929
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 3: I can't. The Chiefs can't rush the passer either.

1930
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 2: Though.

1931
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 3: The Chiefs can't rush the passer and are down three

1932
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 3: offens linemen as well.

1933
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 8: I just don't yeh. I know they didn't well last

1934
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 8: week though, But Jeff, I will say this last week

1935
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 8: last week, especially in that second half, especially with Jones,

1936
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 8: I think we saw for the first time in a

1937
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 8: little while, they were able to rush the passer again.

1938
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:51,879
Speaker 8: Maybe it was just one game.

1939
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 2: Against use pressures anyway, against the against them, he's gonna.

1940
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 8: I don't trust. I don't trust the Chargers to score here.

1941
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 8: It's that simple. I think the Chiefs defense will have

1942
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 8: success against the Chargers because I don't think the Chargers

1943
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 8: have anything offensively at all except the great quarterback.

1944
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't like them.

1945
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 2: I don't.

1946
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 3: I don't.

1947
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:15,679
Speaker 2: I don't like them. I don't like I hate their offensive.

1948
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna lie just just bagged up. Jeff and I

1949
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 2: have been a big battle in today.

1950
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 8: Well the Eagles give you watch Eagles game, Jeff, I

1951
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 8: mean like that was again. If you're an Eagles fan.

1952
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 8: After if you're a Eagles player and you Jeff, you

1953
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 8: played in the league for a lot a lot of years.

1954
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 8: I'm sure there was games that you walked off that

1955
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 8: field thing. How the heck do we lose that game?

1956
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 8: We're so much better this game. You're so frustrated if

1957
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 8: you watch that Eagles Chargers game. I mean, I don't

1958
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 8: know if I'm an Eagle player, especially on the defensive

1959
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 8: side of the ball. I can't even look Eagles offense

1960
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 8: in the face. And I can't even look at them

1961
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 8: ever again, because I would be so angry knowing that

1962
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 8: we dominated that game at such a high level but

1963
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 8: fall turnfoards from the quarterback.

1964
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 3: I just couldn't.

1965
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 8: It would just I'd be angry to no end. And

1966
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:58,679
Speaker 8: I just think the Chargers are very limited.

1967
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 3: But we'll see. Let's keep it going, because Jeff and

1968
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 3: I agree with this.

1969
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 2: One man Rams Lions. How Lion's going to stop the

1970
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 2: Rams right now?

1971
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't you know. I said, I think it's

1972
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 8: going to be score, score and score some more. I

1973
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 8: like the old Jeff. I don't know what you've done

1974
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 8: on this. I think if I had to pick one matchup,

1975
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 8: it would be the highest scoring total of any game

1976
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 8: this year. I would pick this exact matchup. I have

1977
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 8: no doubt Detroit's going to score at least in the twenties,

1978
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 8: at least I think. But I think the Rams really

1979
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 8: may hit forty here. I actually really believe that. I

1980
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 8: don't think they any prayer of getting any stops here.

1981
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 3: I like the Rams minus six. I just don't really

1982
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think the lines again stops. I

1983
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 3: think the Rams defense is fine. I just don't the Lions.

1984
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 3: You know, without Laporta, the Cowboys defenses is not good.

1985
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't really judge the Lions offense based off of that.

1986
01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 3: I agree another game. I as soon as I saw

1987
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 3: the Philip Rivers news, I ran to the nearest sports.

1988
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 3: It took Seattle a minus thirteen and a half. I

1989
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 3: just do Seattle out of all the teams are big favorites.

1990
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 3: They continue to dominate his big favorites, like this is

1991
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 3: what they've done all season. Their defense is going to

1992
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 3: make Philip Rivers wish he never decided to play football again.

1993
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 3: I'm absolutely fine taking Seattle here. I'm laying at thirteen

1994
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 3: and a half. Am I crazy?

1995
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 2: Well?

1996
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 8: First of all, not, Jeff, I respect your opinion a lot.

1997
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 8: I know you're extremely good with this. Now, I absolutely

1998
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 8: don't think you're crazy. But that being said, it's a

1999
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 8: stay away from me. Look they're treating Jeff, tell me

2000
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 8: if you agree they're treating See, I'm sorry, Indianapolis like

2001
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 8: they're a bottom fourteen. I can't say Indianapolis is a

2002
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 8: bottom four team. I just I can't get that far.

2003
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 8: I can't. And again, here's the thing, And maybe I'm naive, Jeff,

2004
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 8: And you know this way burying me having played in

2005
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 8: the league and you've seen when guys come in for

2006
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 8: workouts or whatnot. I understand Philip Rivers hasn't played since

2007
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 8: nineteen oh two. I get it, But would they really

2008
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 8: sign him Jet if he came in there and just

2009
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 8: looked like he had nothing? I I just don't know

2010
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,560
Speaker 8: why they would do that if you looked like he

2011
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 8: was at inept. I just I've seen so many bad quarterbacks,

2012
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 8: Like watching Brady Cook last week for the Jets was like,

2013
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 8: oh my god, I.

2014
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 3: Just you're watching again this week?

2015
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. I just I don't know, Jeff, I I

2016
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 8: I just a lot of points to me. I want

2017
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 8: to ask you a quick thing on next week is

2018
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 8: the game I'm really gears a well, because we're gonna

2019
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 8: I think the game's Thursday. They play the Rams. Look ahead,

2020
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 8: mine is pick them. I like Seattle, I don't. I

2021
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 8: think Seattle is better in the Rams. I've had him

2022
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 8: ready to ahead of them all year. I still haven't

2023
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 8: ready to ahead of them and the games in Seattle.

2024
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 8: That's gonna be a big bet for me next week.

2025
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 8: But we're getting ahead of myself. But we're not gonna

2026
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 8: be in the here next week. But I like Seattle

2027
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 8: over the Rams next week.

2028
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 3: I just don't trust Donald in the big games. Still.

2029
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 3: That's it. That's that's that's my thing. I just I

2030
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 3: just don't. I'd rather stay away from the game than

2031
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 3: be on sound on a big game.

2032
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 2: I agree with Jeff, I'm with you. Let me ask

2033
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 2: both of you guys. Cowboys Minnesota Sunday night. I mean,

2034
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:15,679
Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys went by double digits. I think

2035
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 2: they flex against that team.

2036
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 3: I don't. I think that line is really low.

2037
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 8: Rain definitely be on the Dallas side of empty. But again,

2038
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:28,640
Speaker 8: let's just keep it fair. Like Dallas is one of

2039
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 8: those teams where you know they're just one of those

2040
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 8: teams I'm never gonna trust against inferior opponents because I

2041
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 8: think it's anyone. They're the kind of team to me,

2042
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 8: they could look like it's the best team in any

2043
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 8: week given week and look like the Arizona game from

2044
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 8: what just three weeks ago or whatever it was, where

2045
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 8: they lost by twenty to Arizona. I think they should

2046
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 8: beat Minnesota. I don't trust McCarthy at all. He finally

2047
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 8: had an OK game, But to me, it's easy Dallas

2048
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 8: for pass.

2049
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:58,559
Speaker 3: So I'm so glad that we don't talk about Dallas'

2050
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 3: defense being good anymore because they're not good. I never

2051
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 3: understood this idea. Quinn Williams makes someone like he's a

2052
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 3: de tackle.

2053
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 4: What are you doing here?

2054
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 3: Is an Aaron Donald? Their defense stinks is thirty first

2055
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 3: and DVOA, and it showed when they give forty four

2056
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 3: the Lions. The defense is atrocious still just because Kansas

2057
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 3: City they still score twenty eight. By the way, did

2058
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 3: the Chiefs in Dallas didn't finish that game? Their Dallas

2059
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 3: defense is terrible. You cannot lay it with Dallas in

2060
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 3: this game because who's stopping Justin Jefferson. I know McCarthy

2061
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 3: might turn into whatever he was who slapped Justin Jefferson.

2062
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 3: What did I miss justin Jefferson's big year with no quarterback?

2063
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 3: The Cowboys don't stop anybody. That's my point. They stopped nobody.

2064
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 3: They stop nobody. Their defense is atrocious. I don't know

2065
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 3: why all the JJ McCarthy when he's terrible to It's

2066
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 3: why I'm not betting on this game. But with the

2067
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 3: idea that like the idea that all of a sudden,

2068
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 3: the Cowboys are something they're not, I don't wonder.

2069
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't I hate the Cowboys.

2070
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,520
Speaker 3: I think, well, you hate them personally.

2071
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,719
Speaker 2: Right, But I look at that team and I'm judging

2072
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 2: the game. I think it's one sided. I'm shocked.

2073
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm not putting Jeff.

2074
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 8: I got to ask you a question when you played,

2075
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 8: which team did you hate the most?

2076
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 3: When you were the Eagles, when I was, when.

2077
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 2: I was.

2078
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 3: Uh, when I was on the Giants. Probably we played

2079
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 3: worse Agains Philly than any of the other teams we played.

2080
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 2: Well, hang on one second, we got to take a

2081
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 2: t O because he's gonna kill us. But I but

2082
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 2: I want Jeff to answer this. This is great where

2083
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 2: the fellas hang it out right here? Fox Sports Radio,

2084
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2085
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2086
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2091
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 7: Mark final segment here. I don't even feel like doing it,

2092
01:54:58,360 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 7: but we have.

2093
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: To two.

2094
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 2: Two on.

2095
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

2096
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 2: Why don't you want to do it? Adam?

2097
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 3: What happened you?

2098
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: Kevin?

2099
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 8: Mean?

2100
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 7: We have an update on two on two off where

2101
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 7: we pick two favorites every week and two underdogs every

2102
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 7: week in the NFL. So I was feeling pretty good

2103
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 7: about myself after going three and one last week.

2104
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 3: Pretty good.

2105
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 7: Only problem is Kevin also went three and one, oh

2106
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 7: for real, so I gained no ground. Do not pass, go,

2107
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 7: do not collect two hundred dollars. I'm twenty eight and

2108
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 7: twenty eight and he's FN thirty one and twenty five.

2109
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 6: Hey, you're right, You're in Jeff Fisher status right there.

2110
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 2: Right.

2111
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 3: Well, I guess that's seven and nine, so you're better.

2112
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 6: So he's even better see it's looking up for you, Adam.

2113
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 7: First of all, the records are receiving. I'm only three

2114
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 7: games back of Kevin, but I've been three games back

2115
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 7: of him for like two months now, and I can't

2116
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 7: gain any ground. I have a good week, he has

2117
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 7: a good week. He has a bad week. I have

2118
01:55:58,320 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 7: a bad week.

2119
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 3: Two steps forward, one step back.

2120
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 7: One kicking the ass? Right, how many weeks we have left?

2121
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 3: Oh? What?

2122
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 8: Four?

2123
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 7: I believe I might have to get freaky with it.

2124
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 7: All right, take some evasive action here?

2125
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 8: All right?

2126
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 6: Okay, well, how evasive are we looking? So let's give

2127
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 6: me an on. What's your first on for this week?

2128
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 7: I was gonna wait till I got yours.

2129
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, of course you are.

2130
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 2: All right?

2131
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 7: All right, my first on? I like some ams this week.

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Speaker 7: I gotta choose between three here, and I didn't give

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Speaker 7: my cast time to choose for me. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 7: with the Seahawks minus thirteen and a half over the

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Speaker 7: Colts at home. I don't give you, damn. I don't

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Speaker 7: for age. Is just a number, is right? He's more experienced. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: five years ago he sucked as great. Cosell said he

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Speaker 7: couldn't throw the football. Then what's gonna change now against

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Speaker 7: that defense?

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Speaker 3: Good luck.

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Speaker 6: My first on, I'm going with the Houston Texans favored

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Speaker 6: by nine and a half over the Cardinals. Cardinals are

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Speaker 6: terrible Texans offense, still a bit of an issue where

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Speaker 6: their defense is dominant. Like Greg cole Sale told us,

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Speaker 6: this defense might score fourteen points by itself against Arizona.

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Speaker 6: So I got Houston covering the nine and a half

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Speaker 6: points spread over Arizona.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 7: My other pick on a favorite the Bears the Bears,

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Speaker 7: the Bears, the Bears Bears minus seven. I put seven

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Speaker 7: point six. I think it's seven and a half. I

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Speaker 7: think it's minus seven and a half over the Browns

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Speaker 7: at home. I like the Bears bouncing back. Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 7: been amazing. Caleb Williams. I kind of understood what he

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Speaker 7: was saying postgame about that last throw. He wanted to

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Speaker 7: give his guy a chance. He didn't want to overthrow him.

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Speaker 7: He just underthrew him way too much. But I like

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Speaker 7: the Bears bouncing back minus seven and a half at

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Speaker 7: home over the Browns.

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Speaker 3: That's actually one of my offs.

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Speaker 6: I actually have the Bears of the Browns, excuse me,

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Speaker 6: covering seven and a half points Bread, So you got

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Speaker 6: you have a separator right there at him.

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Speaker 3: I needed this. On my other on, I have the

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Speaker 3: Rams minus six.

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Speaker 6: Over the Detroit Lions. I know I've been a big

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Speaker 6: supporter of the Lions, but just two banged up on defense.

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Speaker 6: The Rams offense is an absolute machine in that young

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Speaker 6: defense continuing to play well after they ran Arizona off.

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Speaker 3: The field last week.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they run the Lions off the field,

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Speaker 6: but I definitely think they covered the six points spread.

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Speaker 7: All right to the offs off of favorites on to

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Speaker 7: the underdogs. Yes, I got Cincinnati plus three at home.

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Speaker 7: I know Joe Burrow's being a little bit MOPy. He's

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Speaker 7: not having fun.

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Speaker 3: You will be two if you were running for your life.

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Speaker 7: Well, I just expect everyone to rally around him. And

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Speaker 7: they already beat the Baltimore Ravens once. I think they

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Speaker 7: can do it again, or at least just not lose

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Speaker 7: by more than three. Since he plus three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, possible.

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Speaker 6: My other off I already told you at the Browns

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Speaker 6: covering the seven and a half points bread in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: I also have the Chargers five and a half point

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Speaker 6: underdogs against the Chiefs. I do think the Chiefs wins.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm not gonna count them out until

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Speaker 6: they're absolutely done. But I do think the Chargers find

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Speaker 6: a way to keep this close. I see this game

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Speaker 6: being decided by a field goal.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 7: My final offen New England plus a point and a

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Speaker 7: half at home against the Bills.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, good luck to you, Adam, Thanks to Mark,

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Speaker 6: Thanks Debris, Thanks to you guys for listening. Project nil

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