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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with

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Speaker 2: you as well, and Senator there was a shocking moment

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Speaker 2: at the United Nations when the Secretary General had some

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Speaker 2: shocking words to say, and now Israel is calling for

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Speaker 2: him to resign. This is spreading quickly in the world.

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Speaker 2: Your initial reaction to overall, We're going to play a

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Speaker 2: clip from it in a moment, but overall the shocking

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Speaker 2: anti semitism coming at the United Nations.

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Speaker 3: Well, the United Nations has long been a pit of

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Speaker 3: israel hatred and anti Semitism. In many ways, the United

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Speaker 3: Nations exist so that enemies of Israel can attack Israel

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Speaker 3: on a daily basis. Many aspects of the UN are

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Speaker 3: simply a joke, things like the Human Rights Council being

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Speaker 3: populated by nations like Cuba, like Libya, like Syria. Some

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Speaker 3: of the very worst violators of human rights in the

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Speaker 3: world populate the Human Rights Council. The UN also routinely

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Speaker 3: launches investigations of Israel, attacking Israel, delegitimizing Israel, undermining Israel.

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Speaker 3: All that being said, the behavior of the Secretary General

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Speaker 3: this week was shameful, even by the standards of the

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Speaker 3: United Nations. Give a listen to what he had to.

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Speaker 4: Say on the situation on the ground. Excellencies, The situation

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Speaker 4: in the Middle East is growing.

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Speaker 5: More dire by the hour.

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Speaker 4: The war in Gaza is raging and risks spirallying throughout

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Speaker 4: the region. Divisions are splintering, society's tensions threaten to boil over.

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Speaker 5: At a crucial moment like.

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Speaker 4: This, it is vital to be clear on principles, starting

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Speaker 4: with a fundamental principle of respecting and protecting civilians. I

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Speaker 4: have condemned an equivocally the oririfying and unprecedented seven October

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Speaker 4: acts of terror by Hamas in Israel. Nothing can justify

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Speaker 4: the deliberate killing, injuring, and kidnapping of civilians, or the

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Speaker 4: launching of rockets against civilian targets. All ostages must be

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Speaker 4: treated humanly and released immediately and without conditions. And I

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Speaker 4: respectfully know the presence among us of members of their families. Excellencies,

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Speaker 4: it is important to also recognize the attacks by Amas

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Speaker 4: did not happen.

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Speaker 5: In a vacuum.

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Speaker 4: The Palestinian people have been subjected to fifty six years

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Speaker 4: of suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoorred

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Speaker 4: by settlements and plagued by violence. Their economy is stifled,

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Speaker 4: their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for

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Speaker 4: believances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks

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Speaker 4: by Amas, and those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective

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Speaker 4: punishment of the Palestinian people.

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Speaker 1: Wow. In other words, we stand with Israel.

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Speaker 2: But let's tell you every reason why we actually stand

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Speaker 2: with the Palestinians and Hamas. And now we'll start telling

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Speaker 2: Israel what they can and cannot do to protect themselves.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was utterly disgraceful and dishonest, and in a moment,

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Speaker 3: I want to go through it literally, sentenced by sentence,

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Speaker 3: but I want to first talk about who it is

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Speaker 3: that's speaking. So this is Antonio Manuel de Olivera Guterres.

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Speaker 3: He's from Portugal. He was previously the Prime Minister of Portugal,

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Speaker 3: and he was the Prime Minister of Portugal from nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety five to two thousand and two. Now, what did

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Speaker 3: he do? What did he also do? He was also

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Speaker 3: the president of the Socialist International. So you need to

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Speaker 3: understand this is the left. The far left hates Israel

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Speaker 3: and the far left embraces anti Semitism. He was pre

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Speaker 3: before that, he was Secretary General of the Socialist Party,

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Speaker 3: but he was president of the Socialist International, the Global

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Speaker 3: This is who they admire. And I want to go

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Speaker 3: through Ben. I want to play what he's saying again,

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Speaker 3: and I want to stop it a couple of times

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Speaker 3: and just comment on it, sentence by sentence. So play

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Speaker 3: it again from the beginning.

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Speaker 4: The situation in the Middle East is growing more dire

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Speaker 4: risk spiral link throughout the region. Divisions are splintering, society's

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Speaker 4: tensions threatened.

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Speaker 5: To boil over.

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Speaker 4: At a crucial moment like this, it is vital to

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Speaker 1: Let's just stop there. He says, it's spiraling out of control. Center.

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Speaker 2: It spiraled out the control the moment that Hamas parachuted

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Speaker 2: you had journalists that gathered in Israel to watch the

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Speaker 2: they watched the atrocis in Israel. And this guy says

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Speaker 2: it could spiral out of control. We've already passed that point.

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Speaker 2: They spiraled it out of control from square one.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. And this statement is all about

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Speaker 3: drawing a moral equivalence between Hamas and Israel. They're both

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Speaker 3: bad actors, they're both to be condemned, they're both to

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Speaker 3: I want you want you to listen to his words

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Speaker 3: and what exactly he says.

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Speaker 4: I have condemned an equivocally the modifying and unprecedented seven

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Speaker 5: By Hamas in Israel.

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Speaker 4: Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring, and kidnapping of civilians,

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Speaker 6: Stop.

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Speaker 3: So I want you to look there, Okay, So there

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Speaker 3: he does the obligatory. I can condemn what Hamas did.

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Speaker 3: I mean that he has to say. Now, notice he says,

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Speaker 3: I condemn it on equivocally. Nothing can justify it. And

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Speaker 3: he says the targeting of civilians or the launching of rockets,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't specify the magnitude. Is the Holocaust different from

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Speaker 3: somebody being murdered on the streets. What happened on October

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Speaker 3: seventh is Hamas went in house to house murdering civilians,

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Speaker 3: targeting civilians. They have killed now over one thousand, four

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Speaker 3: They violently raped. Noticed he didn't use that word rape.

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Speaker 3: They violently raped women, They violently raped little girls. Did

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Speaker 3: he condemn the raping of little girls? No, didn't mention

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Speaker 3: it at all. It just says, well, the targeting of

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Speaker 3: acknowledgment that they are beheading and burning alive infants. The

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Speaker 3: scope of it, the depravity of it, is grotesque, and

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Speaker 3: this enlightened socialist leftist jackass cannot bring himself to condemn

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Speaker 3: it beyond I have spoken unequivocally and a condemn it.

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Speaker 3: But let me get on to what I really want

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Speaker 3: to say, which is I hate Israel.

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Speaker 6: Continue.

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Speaker 4: All ostages must be treated you mainly and released immediately

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Speaker 4: and without conditions. And I respectful for we know the

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Speaker 6: Well that's very kind, excellencies.

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Speaker 4: It is important to also recognize the attacks by Amas

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Speaker 5: The Palestinian people.

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Speaker 4: Have been subjected to fifty six years of suffocating occupation.

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Speaker 3: Stop so vacuum guy, you're lying. Gaza is not subject

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Speaker 3: to occupations, suffocating or otherwise. Israel left Gaza. Israel gave

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Speaker 3: You're in charge of it, you run it. And they

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Speaker 3: Israel did is put up a wall and say, look,

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Speaker 3: you lunatics, don't come kill us, but you're in charge.

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Speaker 3: The only people occupying Gaza is Hamas. Israel is not

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Speaker 6: That's what he means.

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Speaker 3: When anti Semites talk about this, that's what they mean

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Speaker 3: is as long as there is one square inch of Israel,

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Speaker 3: it is, in his world view, a suffocating occupation. It's

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Speaker 3: why when the rabbit anti Israel real activist chant from

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Speaker 3: the river to the sea, they mean from the Jordan

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Speaker 3: But that is not Gaza. If it's occupied by anyone,

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Speaker 3: it's occupied by Hamas, which is Palestinian. The Israel is

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Speaker 3: not in Gaza. Keep playing.

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Speaker 4: They have seen that land steadily devolved by settlements and

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Speaker 4: plagued by violence. Their economy is stifled, that people displaced

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Speaker 6: Stop.

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Speaker 3: So we've talked before on this podcast about one of

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Speaker 3: the classic tools that demagogues and liars use is use

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Speaker 3: of the passive voice. Now what is the passive voice?

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Speaker 3: For those of y'all who weren't paying close attention in

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Speaker 3: high school grammar, the active voice is when there is

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Speaker 3: the tennis ball. That's the active voice. Ben is the actor.

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Speaker 3: He is hitting the tennis ball. Massive voice is the

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Speaker 3: ball was hit. The passive voice is deliberately used to

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Speaker 3: this said crimes were committed, not who committed the crimes.

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Speaker 3: It is a way you obscure the actors. So when

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Speaker 3: they say their economy was stifled, and I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: he doesn't mean stiffler from American pie, he means stifled.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't acknowledge who has stifled the gas economy, which

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Speaker 3: is Hamas that takes millions of dollars that flow in

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Speaker 3: And what do they do. They take it all, They

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Speaker 3: because they are filled with genocidal hatred and the misery

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Speaker 3: the Palestinian people are utterly miserable because Hamas terrorists use

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Speaker 4: Keep playing that hopes for a political solution to their

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Speaker 4: cannot justify the appalling attacks by Amas, and those appalling

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Speaker 4: attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

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Speaker 3: Wow, he claims that the oppression of the Palestinian people

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Speaker 3: of course what his entire speech is doing, is trying

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Speaker 3: to justify the horrific, inhumane, grotesque terror attacks of Hamas.

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Speaker 3: And then when he says says at the end that

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Speaker 3: Understand this because the media, the corporate media, CNN, ABCNBC,

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Speaker 3: they will lie to you. They will not tell you this.

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Speaker 3: They will do what that dishonest demagogue did. They will

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Speaker 3: suggest that it is Israel that wants Palestinian civilians to

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Speaker 3: Minister of Portugal. Portuguese military doesn't go to those lengths

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Speaker 3: to avoid civilian casualties, including texting civilians, including dropping leaflets

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Speaker 3: Israeli military does everything humanly possible to minimize civilian deaths.

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Speaker 3: Why are their civilian deaths because Hamas wants them. Hamas

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Speaker 3: wants Palestinians to die. Hamas deliberately puts its headquarters in

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Speaker 3: so that idiots like this can then use those dead

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Speaker 3: You played a pivotal role in flooding over one hundred

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Speaker 6: The death squads.

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Speaker 6: We also have drones.

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Speaker 3: As you know today, the arms embargo on Iran expires

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Speaker 7: Senator, I think you would have to agree that the

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Speaker 3: Do you think the world is better and safer with

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Speaker 3: So jacklu was the Treasury Secretary under Barack Obama. Before that,

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Speaker 3: By the way, Iran is the world's leading state sponsor

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Speaker 2: You weren't done with this nominee for to become the

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Speaker 2: ambassador from the US to Israel. You also brought up

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Speaker 2: another point, and I want people to hear what you

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Speaker 2: said during this confirmation shift.

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Speaker 3: To another thing is because the Biden administration didn't just

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Speaker 3: send money to Iran in massive numbers. It is also

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Speaker 3: sent money to Gaza that went to Hamas. And at

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Speaker 3: the time I led a coalition of senators urging the

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Speaker 3: Biden administration do not send money to Gaza because it

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Speaker 3: is controlled by Hamas, it will be used by Hamas

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Speaker 3: for acts of terrorism. We now know that the Biden

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Speaker 3: administration reach the following determination and I quote due to

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Speaker 3: its overall strength and level of control over Gaza, we

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Speaker 3: assess that there is a high risk Hamas could potentially

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Speaker 3: derive indirect on intentional benefit from US assistance to Gaza

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Speaker 3: high risk. Now's Treasury Secretary, You're familiar with these determinations.

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Speaker 3: Under ordinary anti terrorism laws, you can't send money whether

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Speaker 3: it's a high risk it'll be used for terrorism. But

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Speaker 3: what did the Biden administration do? It waved or anti

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Speaker 3: terrorism law because their political agenda was so important, they

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Speaker 3: were willing to take that high risk. Was it a

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Speaker 3: mistake to send hundreds of millions of dollars to Gaza that,

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Speaker 3: in a very real and practical way funded the death

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Speaker 3: squads and funded the rockets that are being used to

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Speaker 3: murder Israelis Center, I was not in government at the

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Speaker 3: time these assisitions were made.

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Speaker 8: It was I misstakeing.

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Speaker 7: I'm not familiar with the back and forth that you're

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Speaker 7: referring to, but my understanding is the funding that went

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Speaker 7: to Gaza was for things like the hospital and humanitarians.

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Speaker 3: So was OFAK wrong when it concluded there's a high

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Speaker 3: risk that Hamasca to derive benefit Center.

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Speaker 8: I would have to look at the document to.

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Speaker 3: Have hire you were one of a few people that has

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Speaker 3: the expertise to do this.

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Speaker 7: I have high regard for Ophac. I just am not

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Speaker 7: familiar with the doctors.

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Speaker 3: So is the world safer or less safe because hundreds

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Speaker 3: of millions of dollars were sent to Gaza when it's

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Speaker 3: controlled by AMAS Center.

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Speaker 7: Hamasa's activities have proven how evil they are and how

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Speaker 7: important it is.

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Speaker 3: You're not answering that question. Let me ask this question.

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Speaker 7: But I will say that the Treasury has repeatedly undermined Israel.

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Speaker 3: Stop stop for a second, Stop for a second. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's just take that exchange right there. So, so I

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Speaker 3: referenced something called OPHAC.

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Speaker 6: What is o fact?

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Speaker 3: O FAC is the Office of Foreign Assets Control o

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Speaker 3: PHAC is part of the Treasury Department. So OPAC reports

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Speaker 3: to the Treasury Secretary. Jacklue knows exactly what OPACT does.

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Speaker 3: O fact all the time makes determinations about whether money

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Speaker 3: is likely to support terrorism. If it is, you can't

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Speaker 3: send the money. That's ophec's job. So notice Jack louse defense.

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Speaker 3: He says, well, I don't know. I'm not part of

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Speaker 3: the administration. Mind you. He's been nominated by Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: to serve as the United States ambassador to Israel. But

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Speaker 3: his defense is ignorance. He's not going to defend the

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Speaker 3: sending money to Gaza, even though o fact, the office

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Speaker 3: that used to report to him concluded there was a

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Speaker 3: high likely it would go to Hamas and go to

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Speaker 3: terrorism instead. He says, well, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 3: know anything. You know, I'm just some guy sitting here.

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Speaker 3: Don't ask me to know anything about it. And then

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Speaker 3: he also puts out the rather amusing talking point, Well,

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Speaker 3: the money was supposed to go to hospitals, no kidding, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you hundreds hundreds of millions that has flooded into Gaza

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Speaker 3: was supposed to go to hospitals. Remember the goose stepping

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Speaker 3: Secretary General of the UN where he says talks about

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Speaker 3: the poverty in Gaza. Well, the reason they're so poor

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Speaker 3: is they take all the money that's supposed to go

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Speaker 3: to hospitals and they send it to Hamas to kill

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Speaker 3: Jews instead, because that's the only thing they care about

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Speaker 3: as murdering as many Jews as possible. And jacklu should

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Speaker 3: know that. But but all right, the questioning goes on

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Speaker 3: because next I ask him about the Biden administration systematically

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Speaker 3: undermining Israel.

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Speaker 6: And I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Foreshadow slightly if you thought he didn't know anything about

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Speaker 3: or he claimed he didn't know anything about Biden's policy

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Speaker 3: towards towards Gaza. He's going to claim he knows even

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Speaker 3: less about Biden's policy towards Israel. Within hours of the

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Speaker 3: attack commencing, the State Department sent out a tweet from

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Speaker 3: the Office of Palestinian Affairs, an office that would report

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Speaker 3: to you if you're confirmed, that said, we unequivocally condemned

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Speaker 3: the attack of Amas terrorist and the loss of life

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Speaker 3: that has incurred. We urge all sides to refrain from

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Speaker 3: violence and retaliatory attacks. Terror and violence solve nothing. Do

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Speaker 3: you agree with this tweet that was sent by the

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Speaker 3: Biden State Department.

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Speaker 8: Center, I would have to read it. I'm not familiar

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Speaker 8: with it.

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Speaker 6: You're not familiar with it.

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Speaker 8: I want, I want, I wanted to go back to

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Speaker 8: the last point.

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Speaker 6: Hold on a second. You're not familiar with this tweet.

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Speaker 3: They sent it out at three in the morning, while

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Speaker 3: the attacks were unfolding. I blasted it at three in

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Speaker 3: the morning, and they deleted it within the hour because

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Speaker 3: it was shameful. They were telling telling Israel, do not

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Speaker 3: respond while your citizens are being murdered.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, the President of the United States

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Speaker 7: has stated clearly the policy of the United States.

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Speaker 8: I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 3: With Sue, I understand, But at the same time, this

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Speaker 3: administration repeatedly walks back what he says. So here's another

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Speaker 3: tweet sent from the State Department, Turkish Foreign Minister and

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Speaker 3: I spoke. This is from Secretary Blincoln spoke further on

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Speaker 3: Hamas's terrorist attack on Israel. I encouraged Turkey's advocacy for

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Speaker 3: a cease fire and the release of all hostages held

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Speaker 3: by Hamas immediately.

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Speaker 6: Do you agree with this tweet from.

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Speaker 3: The Secretary of State calling for a cease fire immediately

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Speaker 3: after this attack began.

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Speaker 7: I think the President and the Secretary of State have

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Speaker 7: made clear that Israel has a right and a receive.

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Speaker 6: You agree with this tweet from the State.

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Speaker 8: Senator, I can't respond to tweets that you're reading to me.

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Speaker 6: Why are you not familiar with it?

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, they haven't followed what the administration has

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Speaker 3: said on this. By the way, they deleted this tweet

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Speaker 3: as well. Day after day after day, this administration is

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Speaker 3: systematically undermined Israel. And finally you advocated for you a

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Speaker 3: wold those shop. All right, let's take that back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Notice his entire defense is I don't know a damn thing.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea now, mind you. So Jacklu was

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Speaker 3: nominated months ago, his nomination hadn't gone anywhere. Why hadn't

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Speaker 3: gone anywhere? In fact, there were some Democrats who were

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Speaker 3: attacking me saying Cruz is holding this nomination. That was

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Speaker 3: in fact not true, because you cannot hold a nomination

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Speaker 3: until it is cleared committee and is headed to the floor.

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Speaker 3: Until it has made it out of committee. No senator

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Speaker 3: can hold any nomination because there's no there's no ability

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Speaker 3: in the Senate to do that. So the reason Jacklu

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Speaker 3: had not proceeded until last week is because the Democrats

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Speaker 3: who controlled the heres hadn't scheduled a hearing for him,

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Speaker 3: and they just allow his nomination to sit there for

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Speaker 3: a week after week after week after week. Now, once

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Speaker 3: this attack happened, suddenly the Democrat talking point went out,

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Speaker 3: and it went out from the White House, it went

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Speaker 3: out from the Democrats in the Senate and the House.

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Speaker 3: Everyone was echoing, we must confirm Jacklu now, now, now, now,

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Speaker 3: now why, because Israel's in crisis that we need our

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Speaker 3: ambassador there. And so they rushed the hearing the last

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Speaker 3: week and today we're going to vote in the Senate

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Speaker 3: Formulations Committee. I assume every Democrat is going to vote

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Speaker 3: to confirm jacklu and they're saying we must do it

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Speaker 3: because of the war at Israel. Now notice his defense.

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Speaker 3: There's a war at Israel, and he's saying, well, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what's happening. I don't know what the State

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Speaker 3: Department said, I don't know what the State Department said

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Speaker 3: the day the attack happened. I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: Secretary of State that said the day after the attack happened.

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Speaker 3: Both of those tweets were deleted because they were disgraced

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Speaker 3: when they were deleted after I called them out. And

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Speaker 3: his defense, it's it's just the I know nothing defense,

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Speaker 3: And there's a reason he has to give that defense,

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Speaker 3: because the altern is to actually defend it, and.

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Speaker 6: Even the Biden administration won't defend it.

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Speaker 3: They deleted the tweets and realize, oh crap, we can't

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Speaker 3: say this out loud, and so instead he's reduced to

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Speaker 3: just dissembling.

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Speaker 2: And it seems to work for them because it's like

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Speaker 2: they say, we'll get away with it, because surely no

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Speaker 2: one's really going to try to stop us now that

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Speaker 2: we desperately need this nominee.

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Speaker 1: Is that part of the game plan here?

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Speaker 2: Just hey, act like you're an idiot, so you get

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Speaker 2: the nomination done with, and then you can do what

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Speaker 2: you really know and we know you're going to do

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Speaker 2: for us and what you really believe in. And you're

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Speaker 2: not going to be a tough guy, you know with

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Speaker 2: with hamas Asma. In fact, you're probably gonna be tougher

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Speaker 2: on Israel as the ambassador from the US.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, the Biden administration's argument is essentially, our policies have

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Speaker 3: utterly screwed up the Middle East. It's caused chaos in Israel.

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Speaker 3: Sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Iran and funding

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Speaker 3: terrorists was a spectactularly bad idea. But because things are

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Speaker 3: so screwed up, we need to confirm one of the

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Speaker 3: guys who was one of the lead advocates for sending

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Speaker 3: hundreds of billions of dollars to Iran and the terrorists.

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Speaker 3: In other words, one of the architects of the policies

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Speaker 3: who screwed this up. We got to confirm as our ambassador.

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Speaker 3: Because things are so screwed up, that makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: I would like to see a US ambassador to Israel

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Speaker 3: confirmed yesterday. I'd like to see one who actually has

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Speaker 3: committed number one to defending America, but number two to

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Speaker 3: standing with our friend in ally Israel. And Jack Lu's

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Speaker 3: record has been precisely backwards.

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Speaker 6: But let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the last exchange of the hearing, because

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Speaker 3: the last exchange really reveals. And finally, you advocated for

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Speaker 3: UN resolution two three three four, which declared much of

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Speaker 3: Israel illegally occupied territory, including the Jewish Quarter in Jerusalem

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Speaker 3: and the Western Wall. Do you believe the Jewish Quarter

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Speaker 3: in the Western Wall or illegally occupied territory?

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Speaker 7: Senator, I do not believe that it is illegally occupied territory.

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Speaker 6: Why did you support a UN resolution saying that it is?

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Speaker 7: I think the the we could have a conversation about that,

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Speaker 7: but it was going to take me more than ten

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Speaker 7: seconds to respond to it, which all the time.

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Speaker 6: You allow the witness to respond. If you allow the witness.

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Speaker 7: To respond, so first, if I can respond, You've said

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Speaker 7: a lot of things that you have not given me

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Speaker 7: a chance to respond to. I sanctioned Hamas in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 7: Hamas was sanctioned again today. So I don't think it

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Speaker 7: was a fair characterization of either what I did or

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Speaker 7: this administration. Second of all, the issue of a UN

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Speaker 7: resolution is it was a UN resolution that all the

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Speaker 7: parties had to agree to, that was negotiated to take

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Speaker 7: out the most offensive provisions.

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Speaker 8: Whether it was a good or a bad resolution.

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Speaker 7: In the end, the president decided to abstain rather than

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Speaker 7: have a worse resolution come out. You can agree or

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Speaker 7: disagree with that Veto did, but he was trying to

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Speaker 6: The time has expired, worth.

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Speaker 3: So understand that exchange. So this all happened at the

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Speaker 3: end of twenty sixteen. So December of twenty sixteen, the

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Speaker 3: president dential election has happened. Donald Trump has just been elected.

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Speaker 3: Barack Obama is a lame duck on the way out.

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Speaker 3: Before they leave, they decided they wanted to stick it

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Speaker 3: December of twenty sixteen, the Obama administration orchestrated UN Resolution

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Speaker 3: two three three four. UN Resolution two three three four

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Speaker 3: is the most viciously anti Israel, anti Semitic resolution that's

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Speaker 3: ever made it out of the United Nations. It declares

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Speaker 3: much of modern day Israel illegally occupied territory and illegitimate.

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Speaker 3: It declares Judaea and Samaria illegally occupied territory and illegitimate.

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Speaker 3: It declares, as I mentioned in the question, the Jewish

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Speaker 3: Quarter of Jerusalem as illegally occupied territory. It declares the

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Speaker 3: Western Wall. It's also called the whaling Wall. You may

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Speaker 3: remember there's a famous picture of Barack Obama wearing a

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Speaker 3: yamaka with his hand resting against the Western Wall. Under

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Speaker 3: UN resolution two three three four, the western wall of

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Speaker 3: the of Solomon's Temple is illegally occupied territory. Now that

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Speaker 3: is absurd. It is a lie. It is incredibly damaging. Now,

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Speaker 3: how did the Obama administration did this. They did this

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Speaker 3: by orchestrating behind the scenes and getting the enemies of

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Speaker 3: Israel to draft it, to author it. They were actively

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Speaker 3: involved in drafting it. But then you know his defense

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Speaker 3: that he kept saying, well, we did it because we

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Speaker 3: wanted to prevent something worse from happening. We wanted that

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Speaker 3: to prevent them from passing an even worse resolution. Now

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Speaker 3: there is a technical legal term for what he just

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Speaker 3: did there, and that's called a lie. That's called utter garbage.

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Speaker 3: Why because under the UN Charter, the United States is

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Speaker 3: a permanent member of the Securearity Council, and we have

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Speaker 3: a veto. We can veto any resolution that comes out.

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Speaker 3: So if the United States says two words, says I object,

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Speaker 3: the resolution fails, that's a power the United States has.

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Speaker 3: So he said, well, the president decided to abstain, So

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Speaker 3: he did more than that. The Obama administration was behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes orchestrating the whole thing. But lou was intimately

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Speaker 3: involved in undermining Israel on the way out the door.

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Speaker 3: And I will note when the Trump presidency started, I

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Speaker 3: introduced legislation that would have cut off funding for the

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Speaker 3: United Nations entirely from the United States unless and until

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Speaker 3: they rescinded UN Resolution two three three four. And we

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Speaker 3: should have stood hard and done that. Unfortunately, in fact,

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Speaker 3: I got in arguments with Niki Haley it was nominated

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Speaker 3: to be UN Ambassador, because she disagreed with doing that.

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Speaker 3: And I think we should have stood firmly and said

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Speaker 3: this is a viciously anti Israel resolution and we will

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Speaker 3: not stand for it. You're not getting our money as

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Speaker 3: long as you're attacking Israel. That's what we should have done.

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Speaker 3: But I got to say I have no doubt that

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Speaker 3: It's entirely consistent with the remarks that he made this week.

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Speaker 2: It is again one of those issues where Americans need

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Speaker 2: are people that are getting into positions of power and

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Speaker 2: they're putting not just our security at risk, but especially

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Speaker 2: those in Israel at risk, and with this anti semitism,

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Speaker 2: to be clear, that's what it is. I also want

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Speaker 9: Level of concern right now about potential rise of.

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Speaker 6: Anti Semitism in line of everything that's going on is reel.

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Speaker 9: So a couple of things. Look, we have not seen

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Speaker 9: any credible threads. I know there's been always questions about

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Speaker 9: credible threads, and so just want to make sure that

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Speaker 9: that's out there. But look, Muslim and those perceived to

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Speaker 9: be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number of hate fueled attacks,

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Speaker 9: and certainly President Biden understands that many of our Muslim

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Speaker 9: Arab Arab Americans and Palastine American loved ones and neighbors

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Speaker 9: are worried about the hate being directed at their communities.

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Speaker 9: And that is something you heard the President speak to

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Speaker 9: in his address just last last Thursday. And so one

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Speaker 9: of the things that the President has done is directed

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Speaker 9: his team, Homeland Security team to prioritize prevention and disruption

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Speaker 9: of any emerging threats that could harm the Jewish, the

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Speaker 9: Muslim Ab Americans, are any other communities. And that is

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Speaker 9: something that the President has sought to do and since

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Speaker 9: day one, as you know, the President ran on you know,

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Speaker 9: bringing community, protecting communities obviously, but bringing people together, the soul,

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Speaker 9: protecting the soul of the nation. And so that is

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Speaker 9: something that the President takes very very serious. And you know,

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Speaker 9: we're going to continue to denounce any sort of hate

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Speaker 9: towards any American here, and so that's what we're going

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Speaker 9: to continue to be steadfast on. Again, he has advised

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Speaker 9: directed his Homeland Security team to make sure that they're

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Speaker 9: on top of this now.

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Speaker 1: Center.

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Speaker 2: The part about this that's so appable is the White

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Speaker 2: House Press Secretary has now come out and said, quote

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Speaker 2: she misheard the anti semitism question only because of the

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Speaker 2: massive backlash from that answer.

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Speaker 3: Well, it really is striking that the White House Press

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Speaker 3: Secretary is unwilling to stand up and clearly and unequivocally

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Speaker 3: condemned anti semitism. Say, anti Semitism is wrong, it is evil.

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Speaker 3: It is a unique evil that has existed on this

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Speaker 3: face of this planet for thousands of years, and we

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Speaker 3: are completely opposed to it. Moreover, we will ensure that

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Speaker 3: that law enforcement resources are there to protect Jewish Americans.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you Jewish communities across this country have a

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Speaker 3: level of concern and a level of fear, unlike any

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Speaker 3: time I've ever scene as the anti Semitism on college

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Speaker 3: campuses that there was a Jewish student at Columbia was

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Speaker 3: beaten with a stick in recent days, the threats of

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Speaker 3: violence on campuses because the anti Israel, the jew hating

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Speaker 3: far left is so extreme that there is a real

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Speaker 3: threat of violence against the American Jewish community and for

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Speaker 3: that matter, of the Jewish community worldwide in Europe and elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: And I got to say her answer to that was

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Speaker 3: striking in that the Babylon Bee, which does a fabulous

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Speaker 3: job as a humor and satire site, they had an

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Speaker 3: article that they hadn't published, but they tweeted it out

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Speaker 3: today and they said, it's hard to stay ahead of reality.

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Speaker 6: At the Babylon Bee.

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Speaker 3: We had this written up last night, only to wake

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Speaker 3: up and see the White House doing exactly this before

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Speaker 3: we had a chance to publish. And here was the

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Speaker 3: fake satirical headline that they had written, and they were

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Speaker 3: getting ready to publish when Kareem John Pierre beat them

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Speaker 3: to the punch. The fake headline read in strong response

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Speaker 3: to rising hate crimes, against Jews, Democrats denounce Islamophobia. That's

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Speaker 3: exactly what she did. And it's and I tweeted out,

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Speaker 3: no longer satire, just sad because their view listen when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the anti Semitic bigots, to when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the squad, when it comes to the thirty

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Speaker 3: five student groups at Harvard and the radicals running our

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Speaker 3: college campuses, the Biden White House, and I would have

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Speaker 3: to assume, including Kareem John Pierre, side with the radicals

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Speaker 3: against the people of Israel and against even American Jews.

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Speaker 3: Their answer, they say, we've seen no credible threat of

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Speaker 3: anti Semitism in America. Really, well, where the hell have

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Speaker 3: you been if you haven't seen any, because I got

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Speaker 3: to tell you, the Jewish community is feeling it acutely,

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Speaker 3: and we've seen multiple horrific acts of violence directed against Jews,

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Speaker 3: directed against synagogue, including mass murders in the United States,

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Speaker 3: and for the White House to say they see no

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Speaker 3: credible threat is truly absurd.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was talking literally today to a dear friend of

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Speaker 2: mine who's Jewish and that works very close to Times

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Speaker 2: Square in a largely Jewish community, and he said they

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Speaker 2: had been told by local law enforcement to really be

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Speaker 2: on high alert and be careful, and even it recommended

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Speaker 2: they traveled together in groups, not be isolated alone, and

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Speaker 2: to be careful at their places of business. That is

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Speaker 2: what he said to me today. And yet the White

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Speaker 2: House is acting like none of that's happening at all.

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Speaker 3: It is sad and today's Democrat Party is captive to

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Speaker 3: the far left. And I will say I've had conversations

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Speaker 3: with multiple people on the left who are not deeply political,

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Speaker 3: who are shocked at the open anti Semitism that that

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Speaker 3: a long time, but if you're not paying attention, it

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Speaker 6: And I hope this is opening some eyes.

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