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Speaker 1: I thank you. If you're listening to the audio version

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Speaker 1: dealing with. UM. Podcasting. Podcasting is a crazy place. UM.

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Speaker 1: But you must still live in reality and understand. I

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, I think they see me as close

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Speaker 1: But there's a there's a unique place, right, There's like

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Speaker 1: the people that that have it, um, and in that

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Speaker 1: down in that street. They'll walk you right into a

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00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: devil bro They'll walk you into getting robbed, walk you

427
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: into being set up because you don't have the tools

428
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: to know how you want to be tough. They don't

429
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: what people don't understand it. You don't have to be

430
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: scared to die. You can be comfortable and you can

431
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: be the toughest guy out there. And when this file

432
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: hit you, you're gonna react the same. But somewhere along

433
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: the lines in the little boy's mind, they started to

434
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: think that if I show I ain't scared, didn't won't

435
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: hurt me, or it's something. It's something weird going on

436
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: and we gotta fix it. I don't know how to

437
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: fix it. I get offended back because I know you

438
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: don't know what you're asking for. You don't even know

439
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: what you asking for. You have no idea what you're

440
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: asking for. But um word is he was being bullet

441
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna look at the video where his family said

442
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: that hold him, you know, but but you hate to

443
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: see it. You ask yourself, if that's your son and

444
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: the bulleting him, what do you do? What do you

445
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: ask him to do? If he's going to school and

446
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: they're hitting him and look like he's on his last year.

447
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: And this dude was mowling him as you've seen in

448
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: the video, whooping him. But one thing I saw him

449
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: do was he bawled up. See when you bawled up

450
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: like that, None don't really hit you that clean. Ain't

451
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: no clean hits, But you leave yourself open for that

452
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: foot it. But sometimes you gotta go in like it.

453
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: When they didn't cult you, you gotta go in like it.

454
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: But you really need to be trying to come up

455
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: out of that, because man, he might get run on

456
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: him and grab but dessai ka boom. But you know,

457
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: it just it was it was crazy man, because the

458
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: dude with boom boom he was hitting him. He would

459
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: call him own blood, don't blood? You did? You know?

460
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: It was all that going on. So they let you

461
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: know the energy in the class or the energy that

462
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: them little boys is having. Don't crib, don't blood, don't crib,

463
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: won't blood. Some of them mean that, at least they

464
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: think they mean it. See, the problem main whether or not.

465
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: See this is the issue when they don't bought into it. Hey,

466
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: when they don't bought into it, it's a problem because

467
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: they're willing to do things because they don't know the

468
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: consequence it. See, consequences come with age. You know that

469
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: I I shoot him, But it's the way this gotta

470
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: happen unless it's clearly self defense. Now, if it's clearly

471
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: self defense, you know, we can explain why this is

472
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: the scenario. But we ain't hurting nobody for none. You can,

473
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: you can, you can talk one of them little boys.

474
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: They really bought into it, that uncle Donning and cousin

475
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: brother done it. And he yeah, you can kind of

476
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: talk him into something. But after that demand family came

477
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: out and kind of um spoke to what I'm saying.

478
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: Let's see what they said. He was scared, he was afraid.

479
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: There's a video that's all out on social and media

480
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: and it shows that he was being attacked. It wasn't

481
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: just one person that would attack him and bully him,

482
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: taking his money, harassing him do look back, because he

483
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: had more things than maybe others. It takes us all,

484
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: It takes us all to stand together about this bullying.

485
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: It could have been a situation where he took the

486
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: the turn and decided to commit suicide. What the decision

487
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: that he made taking the gun. We're not justifying that

488
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: that was not right, but he was trying to protect himself.

489
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: And so we hope that the police department does the

490
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: investigation properly. There are gonna be independent investigations that is

491
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: going to be done as well, so that we can

492
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of really or what happened. Why

493
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: can you say that he was bullied exactly because he

494
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 1: hadn't clearly all have a little bit of money, if

495
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like because the money situation

496
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: or what all? Are you saying that he was fully

497
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: about and how many times did y'all report that, Well,

498
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: due to the fact that they were blessed financially, and

499
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: so he was able to, you know, get things maybe

500
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: that other children could not get her ten agers cannot have.

501
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: And so because he wore nice clothes, and because he

502
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: drove nice cars, and because he had the things, he

503
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: was like a target, outgoing, loving person. Being that he's

504
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: been around his grandmother, his loving mother. They taught him

505
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: to love and he was he was a giver, you know,

506
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: mostly like well, like up until the point to where

507
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: he got into his senior year and it really became

508
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: he was looking forward. He's looking forward to graduating and

509
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: doing something with his life. Who would you like to

510
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: say to the victims families? At the same time, the

511
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: victims family, there is no justification of anybody who's being hurt.

512
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: We have to take a look at the fact that

513
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: bullying is real and it takes us all. And I

514
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: do apologize. We ask as a family for forgiveness of

515
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: any type of hurt. It was never intention for it

516
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: to go on like this, just an unfortunate situation. You know,

517
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what to tell my son. It's like

518
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, like they gotta figure it out, you

519
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They gotta figure out how to

520
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: intervene some kind of way. Then they be having them

521
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: teachers in there. So scrwnny. Them teachers be some of

522
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: the scrinnies individuals that the world has the offer. Shout

523
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: out the teachers though, we love y'all for trying to

524
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: teach the kids. A lot of them, but a lot

525
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: of them just there because they need a job. Let's

526
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: talk about it. A lot of them don't really have

527
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: no real connection with the kids. Let's talk about it now.

528
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: Some of them do, shout out to the wars. They do.

529
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: It didn't sting when I said that if you was

530
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: one of them wares. But a lot of y'all there

531
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: because you need whatever their dollar is on now, you

532
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Now, some people that say, well,

533
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: they don't make much, but some people sometimes people don't

534
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: need much. Yeah, I ain't talking about that they want

535
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: to make six hundred thousand a year. Some people need

536
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: the thirty to lock the third end, you know what

537
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And whether they're doing this or McDonald's, it

538
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: don't matter. Just this lock the third end. It's what

539
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But uh, school shootings, man and in the

540
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: US is a real thing. Gun violence is a real thing,

541
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: all right, You or whoever told you that it's lying.

542
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: And I just want to say him and Timotheve have

543
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: to fit to go to the same school. And those

544
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: people had a meeting after the student and they even

545
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: had records that he was jumped on on Monday. Kister

546
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Whopton of his possessions on Tuesday? What was he robbed

547
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: of his car? Kids? Mama had to get some another set.

548
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: So that's I can see how you got keys too

549
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: fixed up a week. But if you take the time,

550
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: don black people that know so much and read to

551
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: after David, it's public records. It's public records. To after

552
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: David says it all the alpha David says it all David.

553
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: But when you listen to your kids, when you listen

554
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: to your kids, it's because you think your kids is

555
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: better and you hold on. Don't lost look when you

556
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: when you listening to kids. So I don't listen to

557
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: kids timing the kids tell me about the old can't

558
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: find my ship? Yeah making my screen there we go.

559
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah see' don't listen to kids can't no kids mean

560
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: motherfuckers same here, can't tell meal motherfucking things. I've been

561
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: working with those in the agencies, just getting the real reports.

562
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: And and let me just say this, his family, Timothy

563
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: is getting death thressed. His family, Timothy's getting death tressed.

564
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: While the hook ball we are playing like he he

565
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: Anderson playing guyster. You heard him own blood. Bits asked, nigga,

566
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: you got what you were looking for? Baby, that's we're

567
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: playing blood. Get you. I had a fifteen year old

568
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: name to Kye Stevenson, we called Bigger. He lost his

569
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: life playing blood. I had one called Biggam lost his

570
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: life playing blood. Nigga, So that's what you're about to lose.

571
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: You was playing blood, baby, so don't try to make

572
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: it life. He no good ennocent kids. Nigga, he got

573
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: what he were looking for a bullet in his motherfucking ass,

574
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: fucking with a baby that didn't wanna be fuck with,

575
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: fucking with a baby that didn't wanna be fun with.

576
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell y'all again, ask yourselves, if you

577
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: got the evidence in the report, you don't think they

578
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: talked to all the kids. I just want y'all to

579
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: remember this fact now that school is on lockdown. Man,

580
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: you you heard that right, You see, I was just saying,

581
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: I was just saying a lot of time they don't know.

582
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: They campaign a lot of tasks. They don't know, you know,

583
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: the energy that they putting out, they don't know what

584
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna bring. See what the energy gonna bring your homeboy,

585
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: you are ain't prepare the except you know. And then

586
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: they saying, like, I guess the little boy will beat

587
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: up Monday pistol whoop. They took his keys to the

588
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: winds that he gonna brought him and strapped the school

589
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: like y'allin and y'all can't keep y'all can't. You know,

590
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel, man, Like it's so

591
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: serious that you know, people get hurt. But it's like,

592
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: but then what if it turned in the cowboy that's

593
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: the only problem. What if it turned in a body

594
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: brain films? Then since it's like that shit that he

595
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: might be bringing a fiular But somebody kids is messing

596
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: with people. Sometimes you got them kids that's bobbed and

597
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: folks and stilling and doing this like you know what

598
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You got to get your kids, man, damn.

599
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: And the news media was telling us that there's a

600
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: school shooting. Who do y'all think? Released the video? Who

601
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: do y'all think? Y'all released the information and said that

602
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: this kid was bullied the children from the school. It

603
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: was as it was the til they was on lockdown,

604
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: they released the video of them getting beat. Day did

605
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: the till to that till the view they said he

606
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: didn't getting bullied. This isn't what the kids said. I

607
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: was gonna lockdown. So who y'all talking to? Who y'all

608
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: talking to? Man? Because that I said David that he

609
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: was this all the report say this kid was bullied.

610
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: A real reflect that this kid had to been bullied,

611
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: sending me wive thousand dollars. Man. Yeah, but but again

612
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna move on, man. But just a sad situation. Um.

613
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: And like I said, oh, it's just man, there's some

614
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: healing that needs to be done. Meet Meal, let's talk

615
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: about Meet Meal. Meet Meal was under five um about

616
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: his new album Expensive Pain Rapping being on the bus. Uh,

617
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: it was viewed by I would say, an angry consumer.

618
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: Let's say that it was viewed by angry consumer. Let's

619
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: see what he had to say, look at this fucking bus.

620
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: Look at this bus that goes by in my neighborhood.

621
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this? What the fuck? What is this?

622
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: This is on the side of a bus, going through

623
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: your tree, throwing on the side of you. It's just

624
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: what you walk, black women. It's just what you walk,

625
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: black women. It's just what you want. Look at this

626
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: poor fucking ship. Look at a ship on the side

627
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: of a bus. It's just what you walk, black women.

628
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: It's just what you want. It's just how you want

629
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: to be respected. It's just how you want to be

630
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: respected in life. This is how you want to look.

631
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: This is how you want to be portrayed. Stand up

632
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: to this bullshit. I'm from Philly. I actually should support me. Bill.

633
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: This is fucking disgusting bullshit. Look at this, lady, Look

634
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: at this. This is on the side of a bus

635
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: where little girls can pull up and see the ship.

636
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: That's her fucking pussy. Let's not mistaken what this pig

637
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: dot is. This is disgusting. This is satanic bullshit. I'm

638
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: so sick of this. I'm so sick of Look at

639
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: this ship that you're getting on. This is for everyone

640
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: to see. Little girls are seeing this crap. It's fucking crap.

641
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: This is disgusting, This is disgusting. I'm so sick of

642
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: them just rubbing Satanism. Bring your face. Oh it's for

643
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: it's for art. This is art. Is this art? Black

644
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: and white checkerboard? What is that? It's a Masonic flooring

645
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: for this garbage running money, money, money, money, money, garbage, garbage.

646
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Wake up, wake up. It's all related. The vaccine, this crap,

647
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: it's all related. They're all the same, spider controlling you.

648
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: Stop complying. Take your freaking Nascar. Read about germ theory.

649
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Already clean the freaking water stopped up and

650
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: shit in the air. Get organic food, throw your own food.

651
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: Crazy crazy, crazy world, crazy crazy world. Um, so that

652
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: gentleman had a legitimate point. You know, Um, that is

653
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: what seems to be a black woman bent over with

654
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: pink in between the legs. You know, that is a

655
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: representation of one of the sexual organs on a woman, right,

656
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: So we can't deny that from being case number one.

657
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: When I first saw this, I said, I think that

658
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: that's an actor. That was the first thing I said,

659
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: I think that dude was an actor. But then I

660
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: kind of thought about it again, it was like, I

661
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not sure. So let's set that to

662
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: the side, whether that dude was an actor or not.

663
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: If that is true, Let's let's entertain the fact that

664
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: that may be the case. If that's true, So let's

665
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: just say a white man, if a white man felt

666
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: that way. He made a lot of things, he said,

667
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. He's kept compared it to

668
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. Only one thing I didn't

669
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: hear him compare it to, and that's movies. Oftentimes, I

670
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: wonder why rap doesn't get the same leisure that movies get.

671
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: To see, the problem is, you guys view our entertainers

672
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: as much more than entertainers. Y'all go to our entertainers

673
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: and pour from them a lot of times. This is entertainment, right,

674
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: So that album covered in my opinion. Although I would

675
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: never want black women to be represented in a vulgar

676
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: way unless willing, right, but not to children in any

677
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: in any case. And when I say unless willing, I

678
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: mean if they want to do exotic dance and things

679
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: like that, that's on them. But but anyway, like I said,

680
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought first that it was an actor

681
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: and then I told myself that that, Um, you know,

682
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: maybe it's not an actor, but but what if what

683
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: why can't we look at rap and entertainment as entertainment.

684
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: Disrespect is disrespect, But people get their head blue off

685
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: in movies. People like I was looking. I looked into

686
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: saw four, saw three, all of those things they had

687
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: buses wrapped it with saw three on that that represents

688
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: blood and gore entertainment. Right, we understand it from that perspective. Um,

689
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: but then, you know, like I said, sometimes white people

690
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: perspective is off. They're not wrong saying that that should

691
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: have been different, but what I'm saying is in their

692
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: critiques of us, they tend to leave context out of it. Right,

693
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: So the context behind the meet thing is that this

694
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: was an African American woman that did the painting. That

695
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: it is art. I know he tried to say, what

696
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: is this? What is this art? Yeah? Whatever? Whatever? Like no,

697
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: like no, for real, like that is actually art, Like

698
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a painting that a woman did that literally

699
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: sells art. So it is art. Now is it a

700
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Is it a poor representation for young children to see

701
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: on the side of a bus. We can agree there,

702
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: but to try to say it's not art, which be

703
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: today credit that black woman, which I would find an

704
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: issue in that, um and hopefully they would too. And again,

705
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: how white people receive black people has to update. How

706
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: white people receive black people has to update. There has

707
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: to be some conversations head as to um what things mean.

708
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, you have someone like

709
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz that's been running alongside the culture right this

710
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: whole time and kind of stand in tune just a

711
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: little bit, but more than an average white dude, right,

712
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: And so sometimes he's off too sometimes in his analysis

713
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: and in his the way that he receives certain things

714
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: to happen because it's not his culture. But for the

715
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: most part some of those things he's kind of able

716
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: to to to to view it, um through the lens

717
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: of what's what it's intended for, right. Um. So so

718
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: with the being said, like you know, like I said,

719
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: whites and blacks just has to update. Um. I also

720
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: felt like Meek Mill was able to get some traction

721
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: off of it. But I peeped something that I said,

722
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: oh that was specific for him because they said something

723
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: one that they made it where That's why I said

724
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: that it kind of felt funny because they said someone

725
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: that that made me feel like that they xed it

726
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: out of mainstream, right because if he just would have

727
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: went at meek about the black women thing, that could

728
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: have been picked up by MSNBC, CNN and all of that.

729
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: But the minute he said take your mask off killed it.

730
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: That means it would stay underground. So it's almost like

731
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: that that message because he didn't have to mention that

732
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: some kind of way he tagged it in at the end,

733
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: which told me this won't go mainstream because they can't

734
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: promote that. You understanding, And it's almost like, I don't know.

735
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: It was deep. It was deep and not saying meet

736
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: done it. Maybe it's marketing. Somebody may have had some

737
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: knowledge that that was gonna take place that day, you

738
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, But but again I think

739
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: they profited off of it, and there's no such thing.

740
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: It's bad promotion. So let's let's talk about podcasting. Um.

741
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, let's give a round of applause for

742
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: the week that podcasting has had as a whole. It's

743
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: been a phenomenal weekum on all spectrums representation for podcasting

744
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: in particular, men in particular, black men in particular our culture.

745
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of moving and shaking going on, um,

746
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: as well as the goat we got Joe Rogan. Let's

747
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: give a round of applause for Joe Rogan. I see

748
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: the play. I see what Joe Rogan is doing over

749
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: there in regards to his constant fight with seeing. Then

750
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: that's how you use your platform. Big ups to Joe Rogan.

751
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: But you know, I have to talk about all of

752
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: the moving parts, you know, being being happy that a

753
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are moving and shaking in his

754
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: space would be an understatement. For me to say that

755
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm pleased would be an understatement, as I know I

756
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: am in line to get my bag. Round of applause

757
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: for me being in line to get my bag. I

758
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: know they got a bag waiting for me, and I'm

759
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: in lyning to get it. Um. Now, for those of

760
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: you that may not know, million dollars worth a game

761
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: has just signed a W and me round of applause

762
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: for million dollars worth a game. Um, some of y'all

763
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: may not know the reach of ye and me. Again,

764
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: me being a student of the game that speaks volumes

765
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: for hip hop music podcast to be represented by the

766
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: biggest talent agency in the world. So again shout out

767
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: to Willow and Gilly. The only thing I haven't seen

768
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: w and Me make official press release. Y'all, get let

769
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: us get us w and Me. Let us get a

770
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: press release for the Homeboys. You know what I'm saying.

771
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: Send it all way up through you know, the New

772
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: York Times and all of that. You know. That's why

773
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: I always tell y'all, it's levels to this thing. And

774
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: if you don't know the levels, you will never know

775
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: where you really stand. And this is for the up

776
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: and coming podcasts and see this and we get inspired. Right.

777
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm with y'all, but I'm also with them as far

778
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: as understanding the business. So I'm kind of in the middle,

779
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: and I try to communicate to both sides. Willow and

780
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: Gilly have a unique get down. They have a unique

781
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: interaction with each other, which is it's almost like a

782
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: Beavis and butthead type thing, you know what I mean,

783
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: Like a modern day hood Beavis and Butthead type thing, right,

784
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: Not that goof is just just how when you think

785
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: of one, you think of the other. On Willow is

786
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: building a different brand, But when you think about those

787
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: two guys. They kind of give you. They give you

788
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: some entertainment. Their podcast being interview based is a beautiful thing.

789
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: And I think that they do have enough know how

790
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: in stories to do this, you know, like I say

791
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: what I do. I want y'all to know how unique

792
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: this is. You know, I get on here an hour

793
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: or two hours by myself. I don't pull from anybody

794
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: and I and I'm constantly able to turn this thing over. Man,

795
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: It's just a beautiful thing. You know. It's talent involved

796
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: in that. Understanding the culture and understanding what you want

797
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: to communicate and how to communicate it is essential you

798
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,479
Speaker 1: trump a leaning up to the top of this game.

799
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: So again shout out to Wallow and Gilly. Great podcasts.

800
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: Go check that out. Another announcement, And so people say, oh, loon,

801
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: what does wn me? What they gotta do with podcasts?

802
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: And how could that help? Gilly and Willow? W and

803
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: ME has contracts with all the venues across America and

804
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot abroad as well. So what you

805
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: what that effectively means is that there's a company with

806
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: contracts with venues all around America that has an interest

807
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: in putting these two gentlemen in front in front of

808
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: their fans and venues all around America, which means the

809
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: leveraging that, which means they have an interest in brand

810
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: building even further than just the hip hop scene. So

811
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna help them build their brand in hopes to

812
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: filling up those arenas or wherever they'll be doing their

813
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: shows because W and Me stands to make money off

814
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: that and buy them already having a wealed or machine

815
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: where their brand building. All of these different superstars that

816
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, W and ME is not even interested in

817
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: ninety seven ninety nine percent of the rappers not interested.

818
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of the rappers couldn't get a W

819
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: and Me contract. Just to put that in perspective, your

820
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: favorite rapper may not get with W and Me. They're

821
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: not interested. Podcasting reaches a different thing. Hence, while you

822
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: see me in front of it, and let's not getting mistaken.

823
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: I started in two thousand and seventeen. Let's not get

824
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: that mistaken might have been sixteen. Go do the Googles.

825
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: I just took a hiatus. Took a hiatus. There was

826
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: some things, some contract things happening, some things happening behind

827
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: the scenes with music that I had to comb through.

828
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: Took me quite a while to comb through. And then

829
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: also get the wearerthal of the nuts to say, you

830
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: know what, just cut it on, Spend spend that money,

831
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: get a whole bunch of shit, cut it on and

832
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: see where it takes. See if you can do it

833
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: by yourself, no help, zero people. See if you can

834
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: do it, See if you can figure out this out.

835
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: And the pandemic kind of put me in a place

836
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: to eight. Let's go and put the pedal to the metal.

837
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So W and me has

838
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: an interest in million, I was worth a game going

839
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: even further and having even more brand awareness. Just to

840
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: put that in perspective for you. Now, the next podcast announcement,

841
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: it's Rory and Mall has signed to I think Stitcher.

842
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: Let's round round of applause for Rory and Mall. All right,

843
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: so it says here Rory and Mall sign a ten

844
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: million dollar deal to Serious XM and Stitcher. That number

845
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: says that it will probably be exclusive. That number all

846
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: also speaks to the value that I think that they

847
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: were speaking to Joe Button about. Now, did they take

848
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: some of Joe button value or did Joe Button take

849
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: some of their value in regards to that ten million,

850
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: does that ten million? Does Joe Button, in his mind

851
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: somewhere still think that ten million is a reflection of

852
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: him some kind of way. And do you think it's

853
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: a reflection to him? I mean it could be a

854
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: reflection of what he helped them build. But again, people

855
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: up rocking with them, and if they've been able to

856
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: able to leverage and get ten million, we gotta get

857
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: that up to them. That's a that's a good number. Word.

858
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: Is they still own a hundred percent of the podcast?

859
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: You know? They they they of course I've asked about

860
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: it and Mom basically said, man, you never think somebody

861
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: to do that to you. But you know, in regards

862
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: to speaking of Joe, like yo, you see him do

863
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: shit to other people, but you always think, no, not

864
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: to me. That's my dog. And then one day they

865
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: swing it around your way. I think Maul. I think

866
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: it hit Mall a little different, but I think Mall

867
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: And now we're looking at it, I mean, they effectively

868
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: wanted to match. From their perspective. Now it's up to Joe.

869
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: If he can go off and get a big, big,

870
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: big bag, then you know, they both come out winners.

871
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: But um, I think it hit Mall different. I think

872
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: it hurt Mall. I think what Mall went through with

873
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: the break up was different than what Rory went through.

874
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: I also think that if Maul wouldn't aligned himself with

875
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: Rory so much, that Joe would have handled Mall different

876
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: than he handled Rory. I think Joe would have did

877
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: more to say to save whatever that was with with

878
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Mall versus Rory. It's just my opinion. But Maul still

879
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: on principle and looks like made a sound decision. I

880
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: don't see him getting ten million next to Joe. I

881
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: don't know how does Parks feel seeing that, Like, whoa,

882
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: they got ten million? Is that real? You know? I

883
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: know they're asking that, you know, but you know this

884
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: game is a hustle. Now. What they've done effectively, they

885
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: have made Joe Budden. They forced him into a rebuild.

886
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: If you're asking me, I believe somewhere in Joe Budden's

887
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: mind he still thought that he'll get the boys back together.

888
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: I still think that somewhere in Joe Budden's mind he

889
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: thought that they can't get a bag. They need me

890
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: to get the big, big bag. They'll get some little money,

891
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: but the big, big bag they need me to get it.

892
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: I think in his mind he thought that they were

893
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: able to negotiate with that fan base and that was dope.

894
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: But they forced Joe Button into a rebuilding stage. You know,

895
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: I put that up under a Rory's post or Mall's post,

896
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: and then you know, of course people that know me

897
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: listen to my podcast start come in and saying like

898
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: I was like, man, Joe, you know, I said, congrats

899
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: the Rory Mall. But damn Joe, they didn't have forced

900
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: you into a rebuild. Like I think what Joe's doing

901
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: with Ish and Ice, he never looked at that is permanent.

902
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: Now he has to either look at that is permanent

903
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: or he gotta come and dance with me with what

904
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: I do, you know what I'm saying, Or he gonna

905
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: have to look at that it's a permanent situation, you

906
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 1: see what I mean. So I think somewhere along the lines,

907
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: he just thought I'll get the boys back together some

908
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: kind of way. I'll get the boys back together because

909
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: they can't get the ten million dollar bag without me.

910
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: If it was me, I think he should have made

911
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: the right way. Quicker you know, for the sake of

912
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: for the sake of the whole scenario, they've took. They've

913
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: took some cachet. Um oh, And so the person a

914
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: couple of people under the post said, um yo, I

915
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: think they better off without each other. Of course, you know,

916
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm a professional podcaster, so I gotta you know, let's

917
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: have a conversation. First of all, I don't think they're

918
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: better off without each other. For me to say that

919
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: would be would mean that I think that's an even swap.

920
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't feel that. What I think that Rory and

921
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: Mall may be slightly better off without Joe because Joe

922
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: can't take any other money, even though they've already run

923
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: off with the Joe button like Aura around them, because

924
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: they his partners. You see. So I got that, Joe,

925
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: you can't take that from me, and I'm out hit

926
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: negotiating with that, not just with that, along with my

927
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: people who then grew to like me. Nown s, some

928
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: people don't like you because of us, and it's a

929
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: weird thing going on. But nonetheless, we got people watching

930
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: less negotiate. But I think that Joe's podcast is in

931
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: a worser is not in the best position it could

932
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: be in without Rory and Mall. I think if Rory

933
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: and Mall was still there right now, they still be

934
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: and he's still high now, he's still retention is good

935
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: and people are still is consumption is good. He's still

936
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: doing well, but it'll be doing that much more better

937
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: had it had he had Rory and Mall next to him.

938
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: And on top of that, Joe is still being He's

939
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: still not trying to conform, so he still ain't on Spotify.

940
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: He still ain't over here. He still ain't over there.

941
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: That they're forcing Joe to change their business model. They're

942
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to call it audible. They're gonna have to

943
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: call an audible. And you hear him doing it real time.

944
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: When you hear him say, thinking about tour, go back

945
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: six months ago, five months ago, he was standing on it.

946
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't like tours, forget tools, this and that, but

947
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: it's money to be made. He know, I got to

948
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: touch the people. I gotta rebuild this thing. I gotta

949
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: shake hands, you understand, because they're placing me that that's

950
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: where they put me. Wherever the chips lay. That's why

951
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: I got to pick them up from you understand. I

952
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: don't have no leasure to be able to ignore the obvious.

953
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: That will make me a dumb business man. I'm ignoring

954
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: the obvious. Oh man, these dudes when he got to me,

955
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: what my guys around me looking like? What they're thinking them?

956
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: Some of my boys? So now does that center signal

957
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: through there? If you leave Joe, you can go get

958
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: a bag. Some of them people enjoy working with Joe.

959
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: He's probably a good dude to get in there in

960
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: part with. Or when we talk about ten million, that's

961
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 1: a different conversation. It's heaven. Do I think Joe could

962
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: come out of it? Yeah? And I'm saying come out

963
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: of it like he's in some weird I mean his brand, Bro,

964
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: Dave pigeonhold his brand. They've pigeonholed the brand. He's got

965
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: a Something has to happen with the brand or he

966
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: can just continue to eat how he's eating now and

967
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: be okay with that. Why everybody else is ten million here,

968
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: eight million here? Sign with this? Twenty million here? Dad?

969
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: And then you gotta also think Rory and Mallis is

970
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: using all of the market to get some numbers. That's

971
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: why I'm trying to tell you when Joe not on Spotify.

972
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: That takes what a hundred thousand people, seventy thousand listeners away.

973
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: If he puts it there, that's seventy more thousand listens.

974
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: But again understanding the business is kid in this, but

975
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: they have effectively forced Joe Button into a rebuild of

976
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: his brand. Will be watching to see exactly what he'll

977
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: do with it. And of course again you're gonna see

978
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: some changes. You're gonna see some tours, you might see

979
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: him invest a little bit more into It's and Ice

980
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: to it's just doing well. Ice is doing well, but

981
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: I would say it's just doing better than Ice. Um,

982
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure about They gotta get their brand,

983
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like they cool Joe Button Holmes,

984
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: they straight like that, but something about the brand like

985
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: Mall had a little you know, Mall had his little

986
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: basketball thing going on, his brother his big time in

987
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: the game, Rory had his emotion on. They had their

988
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: own brands, and that's what they were trying to tell

989
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: Joe would seemed like like yo Joe, Like like Parks

990
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: got his own brand, Like yo, bro, we all got

991
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: our own brand, like you know what I mean. Um,

992
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: so you know I don't know, man, but we'll be

993
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: watching Congrats again. The Royal ron Mall Joe, you know

994
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: it's time. He gonna get him another. He gonna get

995
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: a bag somewhere. He gonna make a move. He's gonna

996
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: make a move somewhere. But he gotta he gotta beef

997
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: the brand back up. And because they playing with all

998
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: the numbers on them, and see that's what they mean

999
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: when they say gonna make you conform. This is why

1000
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: Joe Button looks at the TikTok situation like that. For

1001
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: those of you that follow Joe Button, you know lately

1002
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: has been speaking about TikTok ruining music because what he's

1003
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: saying is, if all you need is ten or fifteen seconds,

1004
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: all the artists are gonna conform to doing ten or

1005
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: fifteen second songs or list something in that song that

1006
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: make it lucrative or make get appealing to that audience,

1007
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: which effectively changes music. With podcasting, people are negotiating with

1008
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: numbers on all platforms, which is effectively gonna make Joe

1009
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: Budden have to put this stuff on Spotify, put it

1010
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: over here, on Stitcher, put it over here, to be

1011
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: able to say, now I got seven million hits a week,

1012
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: but he's trying to play the Joe Rogan game, which

1013
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: is exclusivity like academics. Academics playing the exclusivity game. Luckily,

1014
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: for million dollars worth a game, they've been able to

1015
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: be wide open, which is a blessing and still you know,

1016
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: be alongside and getting paid. Same with Big Facts. You

1017
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: be on all these different platforms and still be signed

1018
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: to some people say with drink chumps making money from it,

1019
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: but still being able to build a brand in all

1020
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: markets that's available. It's a beautiful thing, you know. But

1021
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: when you hear ten million, that means I'm pulling you in.

1022
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: I need to build over here. When you hear a

1023
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: hunting million for rolling and I need to build over here,

1024
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: you know. Speaking of Joe Rogan, the goat of the

1025
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: podcast industry, Um, he just had an interview. He just

1026
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: sat down with doctor Sanjay Gupta from CNN. For those

1027
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: of you that you know ever watch Seeing Then, I

1028
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: know exactly who that is, then watch them alone the years. Uh,

1029
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: smart guy. Um. What made this interesting to me is

1030
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: that Joe Rogan has an own going fight with Seeing Then,

1031
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: where they misrepresented some things according to him in regards

1032
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: to his approach to um the twenty twenty one pandemic.

1033
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: I have to not say these kind of certain words

1034
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: because UM, I can't say these certain words simply because

1035
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: they trigger certain algorithms and then make your your stuff

1036
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: not being able to be placed where it needs to

1037
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: be placed. Nonetheless, I'm gonna see how good I am

1038
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: and if I can get around him. But Joe Rogan,

1039
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, his approach to the pandemic and being a

1040
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: part of it was, for lack of a better term,

1041
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: to mainstream media odd they say that he was dealing

1042
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: with horse d Wermer. That was just a big thing,

1043
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: to the point where he he started to flirt with

1044
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: the idea of sooning seeing them for misrepresenting what was

1045
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: going on now to see signs to see the doctor

1046
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: come on his podcast. After that, the first thing I

1047
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: thought was what is that about? So he reached out

1048
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: to be on the podcast, and they slandering me over that.

1049
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: So they finishing a doctor over here to school me.

1050
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: But one thing I know about the old podcast, or

1051
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: one thing I know about a podcast, the boy, y'all

1052
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: don't not want to see one of these podcasts like

1053
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Rogan that can get in there and he will read

1054
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: on what's going on. He then took some uh what's that,

1055
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: uh alpha brain. He's locked in on you. You're sitting

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: down in there, and I brought you into my octagird.

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: Then you gotta deal with me. That's why I say

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01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: with this podcast thing, you can sit whoever there. You

1059
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: gotta deal with me. And this, y'all re teller prompters

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01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: you yol you ab said reading and tell a prompter.

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01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be set in and out of a conversation.

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01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: It's a different thing. I'm gonna show y'all a clip

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01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: in which him and Rogan started to have an exchange.

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: And you see the difference. You see the difference you

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01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: brought him always see yall that ce and then and

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: well polished reading the facts from somebody else, research this

1067
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: and that you're dealing with, you're dealing with the source

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01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: of So now it's a different things. I look at

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01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: these things like fights. But again, it's just important because

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: of it's just important because of Rogan's reach, his ability

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: to speak to the people, right, um, And that's also

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01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: what gave me And then I'll get into the interview part.

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01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: But that that also what kind of I pour from,

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01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Rogan and Bill Bird, them dudes doing

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01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: this same kind of thing that I do right by themselves.

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01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, I heard them explain what Bill

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: Bird does and I said to myself, Wow, I said,

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01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: let me see if I can do it. And then

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01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: I started to part and I started, I'm like, Yo,

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01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: this is a thing. This is a thing, right, kind

1081
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: of knowing enough in your own mind and knowing where

1082
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: you want to go to be able to podcast by yourself.

1083
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: It's a different talent. It's a different thing. And Um,

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: I found a respect for Rogan and Bird and even

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01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: even UM. There's a guy that by the name of

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: UM out of Hell in my Ryan Sickler, another guy

1087
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: that has a great podcast. He's a comedian. Again, I'm

1088
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: a student of the game. I don't just name certain

1089
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: things like I'm all around. I listened to UM, two Bears,

1090
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: one cave, you know. I listened to UM, what's the

1091
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: guy named the conservative Guy? It's almost like the news

1092
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: used to work for the news. They got their own thing. Nonetheless,

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01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I take in all kind of information.

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01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: That's why they come get it from me, you know,

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01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: And it's and it's and it's digestible because I've been

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01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: read and looked him did so much about it. But

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: let's listen to the Rogan and that they had an exchange.

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: They got kind of heated, and I couldn't be more

1099
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: proud to be a podcaster to see them folks go

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: in there and have to uh deal with Rogan in

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01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:03,479
Speaker 1: his arena. Part of the reason why is my daughter?

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01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: Now let me let me, let me lay the framework

1103
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: of what the conversation is. They're having a conversation about

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: the pandemic and the sickness associated with the pandemic. They're

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: having a conversation about it in which um, they're saying

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01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: that younger people that get they're going to get a

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01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: shot that's recommended by the government. Right, the shot that's

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01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: recommended by the government. The people they're going to get

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: the vaccine, let's just get to it. So they're saying

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Speaker 1: that the people they're going to get the vaccine are

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: young young men, young boys are more likely to have

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Speaker 1: complications from getting the vaccine versus just building some sort

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: of herd immunity. So let's hear them, and it gets

1114
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: a little sticky. So y'all stand by. Her died last

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01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: week of COVID. This is my air conditioning guy telling

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01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: me this. He's been like mid seventies, so, which I mean, yeah,

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01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: it was just hard. You know, somebody's telling you his

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: daughter died and he's you know, he's and it's a

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01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: week later and he's working again, which and of itself

1120
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think I could do that, go

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01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: back to work. I mean, he was grieving still and

1122
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: his daughter died and they weren't vaccinated. Now they aren't.

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Speaker 1: They're not following the news reports or not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's they're working. They got their lives and it's not

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: something that they like, this is the hill I'm going

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: to die on as far as vaccines that they're not

1127
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: those people. They're just living their lives. But she says

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Speaker 1: to him before she goes on the ventilator, please get vaccinated.

1129
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: And then she dies and and so he's now telling

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Speaker 1: me that he wants to get vaccinated. But he's worried

1131
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: about this clots. He's been calling his doctor's office. He

1132
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten a call back yet. And I'm the first

1133
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: person he has seen since this all happened, first doctor

1134
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: he's seen, and so he asks me, and I tell them,

1135
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: and you know, am I going to get pissed off

1136
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: at the anti vaxers after spending time this guy want

1137
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: he wants to do it. He understands the consequences of

1138
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: not he just watched what happened to his daughter. It's

1139
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: worried about his stent in his leg. There's all these things,

1140
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: and we've got to communicate that to people. If we're

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: going to ask the country to do something, If you're

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01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna ask the country to give vac if you're gonna

1143
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: ask the country to get boosters, which is the most

1144
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: recent thing, you've got to explain it. Well, if you're

1145
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: gonna ask kids to get vaccinated, why why are you

1146
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: asking kids? Because everyone says, well, aren't they far less

1147
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: likely to get sick and all that? Yes, but here's

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Speaker 1: why they should get vaccinated. Why do you think kids

1149
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: should get vaccinated? Well, I think I think there's a

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01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: few reasons. All they can children? Yeah, like how old?

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01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: You know? I mean I think the will price a

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01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: vaccine authorized for five to eleven year old? Do we

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: have real studies on the impact of young children and

1154
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: COVID in terms of what what COVID does to their bodies.

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01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: We know that they're far less likely to get sick,

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01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: that's for sure, far less likely to be hospitalized, far

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01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: less likely to die, and far less likely to die

1158
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: from COVID than even from the flu. Correct, that could

1159
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: be you know, I mean flu is a concern for sure.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen thousand people die of flu every year, but it's

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Speaker 1: more dangerous for children than COVID. Correct. I think when

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Speaker 1: you looked at like h H one N one, you

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01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: know the the that's a different one where that was

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: a bad flu. But I think you know, like in

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Speaker 1: any given year, I think what some five hundred children

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Speaker 1: have died of COVID in any given year. You know,

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Speaker 1: you may have similar numbers of flu. It's it's so

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01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: death rates. Yes, I think the children that died from COVID,

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Speaker 1: most of them had pretty extreme comorbidities though, correct, comorbidities

1170
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: that are um pre existing conditions, though they may not

1171
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: know what they mean. Um. But I want you to

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01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: know something. I want you to know something. This is

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: a fight. This is a fight. This is rogan but like,

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01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: uh see, oh man, you represent you represent that side

1175
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: of shit, So now here I am. I gotta You're

1176
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: gonna try to spend me in and do these talking points.

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01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: You can't do talking points in conversations. That's why, you know,

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01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: sometimes people try to run out with your game. They

1179
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: can't do nothing with After that one sentence they took

1180
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: from you, most people are gonna want to know more

1181
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: about that than they don't have none doubt they stole.

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01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: Let you know, so Rogan, it's now pushing them up

1183
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: against the wall right like yo, man, stand next to

1184
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: them my idea as you be saying why you think

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01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: that young people shouldn't be vaccinated? Well, you know, and

1186
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: he trying to hit them with some of them them

1187
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: talking points. And then but Rogan has information and has

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: Jamie right there, Jamie over there, she said what they're

1189
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: looking it up. He might give them a nod and

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01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: he might say you got something, Jamie, and then they'll

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: put it up say I ain't got no Jamie yet,

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01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: you know. But but but this is a fight. This

1193
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: is a very important conversation between a podcast the represents

1194
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 1: media on our side and a mainstream person there represents

1195
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: media on the mainstream side. Let's hit someone at yes

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01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: and and same for adults. And that is a good

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: conversation to have and you know, but I mean the

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Speaker 1: conversation about children. Let's let's just stay on this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so what studies are there about children and the dangers

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Speaker 1: of being vaccinated, Because there was a study that came

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Speaker 1: out recently about young boys in particular that young boys

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Speaker 1: face a higher risk of myo korditis from the vaccine

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01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: than they do from getting COVID. I don't so I'm

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: not sure that that's that's that's right. I mean, you know,

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01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 1: so sixteen to twenty four year olds. I think that

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01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: maybe the study you're talking about it was young. It

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01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: was young people, young boys in particular, right, And I

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01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: think that, yeah, young, it was almost all men. Has

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01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: just been myocardias has been adverse reaction from the vaccine

1210
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: verses from COVID. I mean, you're right. Myocardiis was the

1211
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: big one. And this came up at the CDC meeting

1212
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: and all that, and it's going to come up again.

1213
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: So I think there's three ways of looking at it.

1214
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: One is that you got to say, what is just

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: the background rate of myocarditis period pre pandemic has nothing

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01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: to do with the vaccines or COVID, neither exist. What

1217
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: is the background rate? And there is a certain background

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01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: rate I think per million, it's like fifteen hundred. It's

1219
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: it's not many, but it's not children. Yeah, this is

1220
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Speaker 1: for children immediately upon receiving a vaccine. So that's just

1221
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: the background rate, right, But this is immediately afterwards, which

1222
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: is almost I mean not entirely one correlated, but most

1223
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: likely I think you could make a strong cast that

1224
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 1: it's correlated, you know, I mean, given that it happens.

1225
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: And then what they found was that so after the

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Speaker 1: first shot it was about point eight per million rate

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Speaker 1: of my charditis, but after the second shot it went

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01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: closer to six five point eight per million myocarditis rates.

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01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: So still very low, but definitely like if you see

1230
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: a number like that jump, especially between the first and

1231
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: second shot, you've got to pay attention to that. Yeah,

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01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: But then you've also got to look at what is

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: as you point out the risk of getting myocarditis with

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01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 1: the disease covid as opposed to the vaccine, and it

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01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: was higher. It was high children with children. These studies

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: were in children, and it was about sixteen times higher.

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01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, sixteen times higher it sounds like

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01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: a lot, but we're still talking about five out of

1239
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: a million verses. Now maybe just under one hundred out

1240
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: of a million, so it's still really rare. Now, the

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Speaker 1: one thing I will say about the vaccinated patients who

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01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 1: got myocarditis is that they were all treated. You know,

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01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: myocarditis can be a really frightening thing. They can develop

1244
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 1: chest pain, shortness of breath things. It's inflammation of the heart,

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: That's what it is. And you got to think of

1246
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: it like this. The reason it's can happen in young

1247
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: people can happen in anybody, but people who have really

1248
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: robust immune response. You're basically giving the vaccine and you're

1249
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: counting on the immune system to really respond to that.

1250
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: If it responds a lot and someone's a really healthy

1251
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: immune system, it can cause more widespread inflammation. People feel

1252
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: miserable for a day or two, and in this case,

1253
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: it can cause inflammation around the heart. Do we know

1254
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: what the long term consequences of mile karditis and young

1255
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: people that comes from the vaccine are. I don't think

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01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: we can. We don't know, and I think the only

1257
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: way we can know long term things, to be perfectly

1258
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: honest of any of these aspects of the vaccine, the

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: only way we can know long term stuff is with

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01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: the passage of time. You know for certain that's terrifying. Well, parents,

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: it is ear that your son could get vaccinated and

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: most likely he would have been fine if he got COVID,

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Speaker 1: and that your son could catch mile carditis and have

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Speaker 1: permanent heart we can say person will be I'm a

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Speaker 1: young boy, well that most young boys with no vine

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Speaker 1: you mean what that they're not going to die. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like me, I had COVID. You you look like you

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Speaker 1: look like you're as strong as an ox. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: give you that. But you know, you get teenagers who

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Speaker 1: will have these long COVID naps. You get you get me.

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Speaker 1: They just they're tired all the time. They get these

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Speaker 1: sort of long hauler type symptoms. You know, let's sewing kids.

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Speaker 1: But you know when you talk about thirty three percent

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Speaker 1: of people having persistent symptoms at last months, I just

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Speaker 1: feel like we define like I think we're allowed to

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Speaker 1: have a nuanced perilation about this. We measured things in

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Speaker 1: terms of life and depth, and I get that. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's easy. It's public health. That's the way the

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Speaker 1: numbers get presented. And frankly, we probably that's our fault

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Speaker 1: as well. In the media to just say this is

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Speaker 1: how many people have died when that study from Scripts

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Speaker 1: came out, and I think, I think Bread or somebody

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Speaker 1: on your show mentioned it even the other day and

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Speaker 1: they said, hey, look, we should probably start thinking of

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Speaker 1: this thing as a vascular disease, not a respiratory disease,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I'm a neurosurgeon. When I first heard

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Speaker 1: that this respiratory pathogen could cause isolated loss of smell,

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01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, like, the fact that they can't smell,

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Speaker 1: that's not the end of the world. I get that,

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Speaker 1: But how is it doing that? Why is it causing

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Speaker 1: strokes and young people? Why is it causing all these

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Speaker 1: other organs to have problems? You know, it's it's really weird.

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Speaker 1: And this gets back to the novel nature of this virus.

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Speaker 1: We don't know a lot about what this virus does

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01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: to the body. We probably shouldn't just think of it

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Speaker 1: as another type of pneumonia or cold, because it's clearly

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Speaker 1: doing something else. A cold wouldn't just cause isolated loss

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Speaker 1: of smell. Flu wouldn't even do that. And then these

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Speaker 1: so many people developing long term symptoms. I think about

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Speaker 1: my kids. Those things are though, when you say long

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Speaker 1: term symptoms, what do you think is going on there?

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01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: Is this a result of overall poor health in general,

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01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: lack of vitamin supplementation and exercise and just a robust

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: immune system and just a person who's eating poorly sedentary lifestyle,

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01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: Like what is causing or body to have this sort

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01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,839
Speaker 1: of reaction where some people get through it quite easily,

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Speaker 1: young people in particularly my children. My children got through it.

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Speaker 1: It was like the worst was like it was like

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Speaker 1: a day and my other one had a headache from

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Speaker 1: day and you know, thankful. I think most people are

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Speaker 1: that way, right, And yeah, when I say most, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, even among adults eighty percent? Right? So should

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Speaker 1: we be making decisions based on the small amount of

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Speaker 1: people that have these long term symptoms and not instead

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Speaker 1: addressing why did these individuals have these long term symptoms?

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Speaker 1: And is this something that's inherent to their own biology,

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Speaker 1: their own lifestyle choices. Is that what the consequences are

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Speaker 1: coming from, or is it coming from this very serious disease?

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01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: Like shouldn't we look at it in terms of what

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Speaker 1: does this do to healthy people? And if these people

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Speaker 1: are not healthy, what can we do to make them healthy?

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Speaker 1: So that they could have a more robust immune system

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Speaker 1: and a more you know, a more favorable outcome. I see,

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Speaker 1: this is what you deal with. Somebody that usually is

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Speaker 1: reading off a tell a prompter and somebody that's said

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Speaker 1: that had hours and hours of conversation about this thing,

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Speaker 1: not just talking points, but actual conversation ins and outs. Right, um,

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Speaker 1: Rogan is basically right here, just schooling him, schooling him.

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Speaker 1: Number one. He's he had it so from experience and

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Speaker 1: from being able to have these kind of people on

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Speaker 1: your on your speed dial, you know. But this is

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Speaker 1: a very important conversation. Y'all just got to keep up

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Speaker 1: for just a second. Vaccinate kid, now, this is what

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Speaker 1: this is his point, Yo, Why aren't we saying that

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Speaker 1: the people that's affected by COVID are most likely people

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Speaker 1: that are maybe obest or maybe to have medical issues,

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01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: Like why aren't we saying that you're vaccine is good?

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01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: But being healthy is the key though, because if you're healthy,

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Speaker 1: then maybe your immune system can fight it off. But

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01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: if you're not, then that's when it's grabbing hold to

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01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: you and it's taking you under water, you know, and

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01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: it's drowning you. You see what I'm saying, so it's

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01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 1: almost there's been no conversation about getting healthy. And what

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01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: that does to people that's not educated is it makes

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01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: them think that, hey, once you take this vaccine, all

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01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: your problems go away. Once you take this one shot,

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Speaker 1: all your issues are gone. Then you're free. That's why

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01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: you see people get the vaccine and then they go

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: out like they don't have anything else to worry about.

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01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: They said, people stop taking vitamins, they stop drinking, doing

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Speaker 1: sea malls or whatever they was doing. They stop it

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01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: all that they get the vaccine. That's the issue because

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01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: it's making people think that that's the end all be

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Speaker 1: all when it's not even it doesn't even morph into anything,

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Speaker 1: and it's not really a vaccine because a vaccine would

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: speak to a cure. This is just a It kind

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Speaker 1: of helps you with the symptoms. And I think he's

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Speaker 1: doing a good job. But being truthful in your communication

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Speaker 1: with people, especially this uneducated with the words that you're using,

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Speaker 1: I just think that's very important. Well, I mean, all kids,

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Speaker 1: why can't we do both? Because I'm worried. Because I'm

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Speaker 1: worried because I know one of my friends, his good

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Speaker 1: friend that he grew up with, his daughter was fourteen

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Speaker 1: years old, got vaccinated and had to be admitted to

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Speaker 1: the ICU because she was she had some sort of

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Speaker 1: cardio respiratory issue from the vaccine. That scares the shit

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Speaker 1: out of it. That scares the shit out of me.

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Speaker 1: I've read a story about a nineteen year old girl

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Speaker 1: who had to get a heart transplant because of the vaccines.

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Speaker 1: We could find it for you wind up dying because

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Speaker 1: she had got on an amino suppressing drugs to deal

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Speaker 1: with a heart transplant and then got pneumonia. This is

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Speaker 1: a very rare case, very right, very rare. But if

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Speaker 1: you're going to bring up anecdotal evidence about people that

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Speaker 1: have long term fatigue and consequences, you also have to

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Speaker 1: bring up these anecdotal tales of people that have lost

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Speaker 1: friends and it loved ones to being vaccinated. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: you're right. I mean the real those are real things.

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Speaker 1: Those are those are terrifying. I mean, no one wants

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Speaker 1: to discuss those. Well, they want to pretend that they

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Speaker 1: don't exist. I don't. I don't want to pretend they

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Speaker 1: don't exist. Trust me, I did not know about the

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Speaker 1: nineteen year old who needed a heart translate. That's that's terrifying.

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Speaker 1: It's but I think a young lady who was apparently

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Speaker 1: she followed all the rules, was wearing a mask all

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Speaker 1: the time, it's very disciplined, was going to college, was

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Speaker 1: one of the first people to, you know, out of college,

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Speaker 1: get vaccinated, and she had a terrible reaction. And now, obviously,

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Speaker 1: if you vaccinate millions and millions of people, you're going

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01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: to have a certain percentage of them that have a

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Speaker 1: bad reaction, just like if you give peanuts to millions

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Speaker 1: and millions of people, some people are going to die. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean the long hauler's thing that when I was

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Speaker 1: mentioned the COVID naps, that was just an example. I

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01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: mean there is there is data, you know, when you

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Speaker 1: look at across the board, not just young people, but

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Speaker 1: adults as well. They're saying about a third of people

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Speaker 1: will have symptoms that last longer than a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: I have a friend who was a long hauler, and

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Speaker 1: what his issue was, I'm most sure was different Rogan's

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Speaker 1: pulling from. I got a friend that I spoke to him.

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Speaker 1: He's pulling from about thirty three percent of about sixty

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01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: one percent of and that that has more to do

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: with who's being tested. How do we know that all

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01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: of the people that you know, Like I say, man,

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01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: there's so many layers of this. That's why I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to tell you this is a very important conversation as

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Speaker 1: being head. I noticed some of y'all may don't understand

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01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but I'm telling you that as gravity

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Speaker 1: as to what's happening here for people like me. While

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01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: he was sick and didn't know, and he's a fighter

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01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: and just kept going and kept raining while he was

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01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: sick and didn't allow himself to rest, and it just

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01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: got worse and worse, and he would take a little

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Speaker 1: time off and then push it again, and you know,

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01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: he wound up having symptoms that lasted for months. I

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Speaker 1: mean that that that part of it, I think is

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Speaker 1: an important part of the discussion as well, just because

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Speaker 1: you know, we often do just define things in terms

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Speaker 1: of life and death, and the virus is just weird.

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01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: I just there's a lot about this virus. I still

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01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't know what this virus does to

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01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: the body exactly. How could we right, I mean, it's

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01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 1: fairly new, it's novel, it's we're still learning. But but

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Speaker 1: I do think that when you think about something that's

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Speaker 1: causing such a change in your vascular system, I mean

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Speaker 1: only the way that so many different organs are affected

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Speaker 1: in the body is through the blood, you know, and

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Speaker 1: the idea that the blood is somehow affected by this

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01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: virus or your vascular system is I think is you know,

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01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: we're going to learn a lot about that. I mean

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Speaker 1: the risk reward proposition on the vaccines for young people.

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Speaker 1: If that's the question, yes, we you know. I think

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Speaker 1: that the FDA and these other organizations will look at

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01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 1: this data and make some recommendations, and there's probably going

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01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: to be people who say, look, in the end, I

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01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 1: just don't think it's it's worth it for my kids.

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Speaker 1: What I would say is that, you know, we if you,

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Speaker 1: if you're concerned about a specific issue like myocarditis, look

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01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: at the data and just sort of say, hey, what's

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01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,919
Speaker 1: the risk reward proposition for vaccine versus risk rewar proposition

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01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: for the disease. Look, don't take my word for it,

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01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: look look at that data. We are getting better at

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01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 1: actually having data because more time has passed now. And

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Speaker 1: then also keep in mind, as you've talked about on

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Speaker 1: the podcast, that you could still be a someone who's

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01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,879
Speaker 1: perpetuating the pandemic because you could potentially still be spreading

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Speaker 1: this virus. I mean, we're I think we're going to

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01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: get to the point where we can actually have this

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01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: pandemic under control. These Obviously you're aware that you can

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Speaker 1: spread it when you're vaccure. In fact, this most recent

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01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: outbreak that we had at the comedy store was spread

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Speaker 1: by a vaccinated person and put a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: you know, out of business, very sick, and two of

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Speaker 1: them in the hospital who I think they were both vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's obviously vaccinated people can catch it, and

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01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: vaccinating people can spread it. Yes they can. So if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, the argument of getting vaccinated to stop

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01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: spreading it doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: what I mean, but what if you were far less

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Speaker 1: likely to get infected if you were vaccine. Wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: be far less likely to get infected? Also if you're healthy,

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Speaker 1: and wouldn't we promote people getting healthy? I totally agree

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Speaker 1: with that, and I want to I want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about that because I wrote a lot about this.

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Speaker 1: But but but just on this point of the vaccination again,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that it's either war with this. I

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Speaker 1: think that you're so you're eight times, according to something

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Speaker 1: this this new data that's coming out, eight times less

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Speaker 1: likely to get infected if you have been vaccinated. Then

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Speaker 1: just someone who's just playing unvaccinated, never somebody, somebody does

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01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: not have immunity, someone does not have immunity, which we'll

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01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 1: talk about that as well. I'm sure just in general,

1474
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't have immunity versus someone who does. If

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01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: you have it, you're eight times less likely get infected. Now,

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01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: if you do get infected, you're right, you can still

1477
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: carry the virus in your nose, in your mouth, and

1478
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: you can still transmit it. Study out of Singapore says

1479
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: just sets down much faster. So there's a period of

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01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: time where your transmit it as an unvaccinated person or

1481
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: a person without immunity. This is within what time period

1482
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: of the vaccine, right, because the vaccine immunity supposedly wanes

1483
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: over times, which is the argument for the boosters. That's right,

1484
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: So like, what how much of a time period are

1485
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: we looking at? I mean, there's there's new data having

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01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: at eight times the ability to fight it all. So

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01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: now they're saying that, you know, six to eight months

1488
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: after the vaccine, there's some evidence that against mild infection,

1489
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: the vaccines effectiveness wanes, which probably means you're more likely

1490
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 1: to get infected. So that's that's probably, that's probably the case.

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01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: So it's not indefinite, and I think that's part of

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01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: the reason they're recommending boosters for some people. I say,

1493
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: but they, who is they? Because the FDA just declined

1494
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: the recommendation of boosters and the two top people resolve

1495
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: because they didn't think that the science was there to

1496
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: recommend boosters, right, all right, So I found the area,

1497
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, kind of what they were going back and

1498
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: forthless take a little so at least theory theoretically, you

1499
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: would be more vulnerable than a young child would be.

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01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: You vaccinated would be more vulnerable of a breakthrough affection

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01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: than a young child would be statistically speaking, right, But

1502
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: you're not worried about but you're not worried about catching it.

1503
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 1: You're not worried about catching it because you've been vaccinated

1504
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: and you think it imparts a certain amount of protection.

1505
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 1: What I'm saying to you is, I think that not

1506
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 1: worry is the same feeling that a lot of people

1507
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: have about their children. They're not worried about their healthy

1508
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: children catching it for the same reason you're not worried

1509
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: about catching it being vaccinated that if treated correctly, they

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01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: think that the child probably has a better chance even

1511
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: than you do, because you're fifty one years old. I

1512
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: think is that I mean, they're both It seems reasonable, right, Well,

1513
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't I know the story about

1514
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: fifty You see what I'm saying with your attitude that

1515
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: you're not worried about catching it because you've been vaccinated

1516
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: and you're a healthy guy. That is the exact same

1517
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: feeling that people have about vaccinating their children if they

1518
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: have healthy children and they know that statistically speaking, there's

1519
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 1: so few children that have died from COVID. So Rogan

1520
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: is raven up. He's like, Yo, you're not seeing what

1521
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It shows you kind of how you know,

1522
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 1: once the media has something they want to go to,

1523
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: this is kind of what they stick. Is not defining

1524
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: this in terms of life and death. I think having

1525
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: antibodies as a general rule is going to put you

1526
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: is going to make you safer than if you don't it.

1527
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: It is and not just talking about life and death.

1528
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know that most children when they

1529
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 1: catch COVID have a very quick recovery. Yeah, I think

1530
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: most do, But there are there are these long haulers. Look,

1531
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 1: there's also adults like you that are vaccinated that die. Yes,

1532
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: But but I think people in their fifties, and if

1533
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: you look at the data of people who get hospitalized

1534
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,600
Speaker 1: with these breakthrough infections, they do fall into very specific categories.

1535
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: They just do. I mean, now there's data on that.

1536
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: It's not impossible. I know, no looked healthy. I get it,

1537
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,640
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's there's They said he had no

1538
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: underlying health conditions. I don't. I don't disagree with that.

1539
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: I think it can happen obviously. Um, I think you

1540
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: understand my point. Well, are you suggesting I get boosted?

1541
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: And what he's saying that what I'm saying is your

1542
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: attitude about not being concerned because you have antibodies. So basically,

1543
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: let me let me tell you guys what's happening. So um,

1544
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 1: doctor Sanjay said, they basically, hey, man, once I got

1545
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: vaccine vaccinated, I'm not worried about a breakthrough virus. When

1546
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: they say breakthrough virus, I know a lot of y'all

1547
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: may or may not know what that means. A breakthrough

1548
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: virus means a virus that breaks through your immune system

1549
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: and gets you sick. Right, So the vaccine, and that's

1550
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: what I had to go read because I didn't understand

1551
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: when they were saying that you wouldn't contracted seven times more,

1552
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: sixteen times more not contracted. I was like, what, So,

1553
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: apparently the vaccine puts antibodies around you that has some

1554
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: resistance against you catching the actual virus. Joe Rogan is

1555
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: now presenting him with data that goes against what he

1556
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,520
Speaker 1: was just saying, basically saying that kids should be vaccinated.

1557
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: Rogan is saying, why should kids be vaccinated when the

1558
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: lifespan of the symptoms are short and they seem to

1559
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: be recovering, and when they get the vaccine. This particular

1560
01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: study that they're showing shows that certain a certain amount

1561
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 1: of children are more likely to have some sort of

1562
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: adverse reaction to receive an a vaccine. So he's present

1563
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: them with new evidence, but it seems like he's shaky

1564
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: on accepting it. Not sure if it's because it's coming

1565
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: from a podcaster or what it is. But again, this

1566
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: is a very important conversation, and we'll spend off of

1567
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: this and getting a coyrie irving it all ties in.

1568
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: Let's see, you think you would get through it even

1569
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: if you had a breakthrough infection. That is the exact

1570
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: same attitude that a lot of young people have where

1571
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: they don't want to get a shot because they're worried

1572
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: about the consequences, even though they're incredibly consequences of vaccine

1573
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: incredibly small. But the var's report they do have deaths,

1574
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: they do have injuries, they do have consequences. I know

1575
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: that it's you're vaccinating hundreds of millions of people in

1576
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,959
Speaker 1: this country alone, You're going to have a certain percentage

1577
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: of them that have an adverse reaction. But the same

1578
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: attitude that you have where you're not worried about catching it,

1579
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: they have that same attitude. Why is it okay for

1580
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: you and not okay for someone to have that attitude

1581
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: about their child. I think you do have to draw

1582
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: a distinction between someone who has immunity versus someone who doesn't.

1583
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 1: A child is going to get through it as if

1584
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: they had immunity, don't you think well, most likely, I

1585
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: First of all, they can get sick, and even as right,

1586
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: but you're not worried. I'm I have immunity, I do.

1587
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: I got a vaccine, right, But breakthrough infections are real.

1588
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: They can happen. They can happen, but they're not despite this,

1589
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 1: this particular story, the person who died of it. In

1590
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: my age group, they're not very common. At some point,

1591
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: if if there's more evidence that the vaccine's effectiveness is

1592
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 1: waning even more, you're seeing people my age getting it,

1593
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 1: that's like a like a more common thing, then I

1594
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: would consider that. Some would suggest I get a booster

1595
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: shop because I work in a hospital, right, I'm a

1596
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: healthcare worker, and I don't take care of COVID patients specifically,

1597
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 1: but there can be COVID in the hospital obviously, I'm

1598
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,799
Speaker 1: you know, my patients are neurosurgery patients. It's a little different.

1599
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's a fair point. But I

1600
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't look at that and say this is a

1601
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: reason for children not to get vaccinated. But if there

1602
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: is a statistic, if there's a study that shows that

1603
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: young boys in particular or more likely to have an

1604
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,839
Speaker 1: adverse reaction to the vaccine than they are to catching COVID,

1605
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: why was there a study that shows it. Yes, let's

1606
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 1: find it. Find that study where it says young boys

1607
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: more likely to have an adverse reaction to the vaccine

1608
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,560
Speaker 1: than to COVID. We were just talking about it, I

1609
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: mean the myocarditis data I know, which is what a

1610
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 1: lot of people have focused on. You know, it was

1611
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: about it was about sixteen times higher with the disease

1612
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: than with the vaccine. Well, I don't. I don't know

1613
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:50,520
Speaker 1: what other try, but my point is the same attitude

1614
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: that you have about not being worried if you catch

1615
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 1: it because you're vaccinated. A lot of people have that

1616
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: not being worried if they catch it because they're young

1617
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: and healthy. Here it is boys more at risk from

1618
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,759
Speaker 1: fiser jab side effect than COVID. Studies suggested US researchers

1619
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 1: say teenagers more likely to get vaccine related myocarditis then

1620
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: end up in the hospital with COVID. So if you

1621
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 1: have a child and you read this, don't you think

1622
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 1: that you would be hesitant to vaccinate a child that

1623
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: would most likely cruise through COVID with no issues, specifically

1624
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 1: if they're healthy boys. Well I think yes, So I

1625
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: think you gotta you can do have to compare apples

1626
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 1: to apples a little bit here. So I think what

1627
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 1: this is saying, Joe, is so if you just said,

1628
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: here's the question, what is your likelihood of myocarditis from

1629
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: vaccine versus myocarditis from the disease, it says here the

1630
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:49,919
Speaker 1: children with boys age twelve to fifteen with no underlying

1631
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,560
Speaker 1: medical conditions are four to six times more likely to

1632
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: be diagnosed with vaccine related myocarditis than ending up in

1633
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: the hospital with COVID over a four month period. Right, Yeah,

1634
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: that's that would make me very concerned. A lot of

1635
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: the kids who got myocarditis after the vaccine did not

1636
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 1: end up in the hospital. That's part of the thing.

1637
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: They could be treated as an outpatient, they got steroids,

1638
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,640
Speaker 1: they did not need to have any idea how that's

1639
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: going to affect them long term. Correct that that is true?

1640
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: That will I think when you raise that point, that's

1641
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: always going to be a fair point, because until we

1642
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: have with four to six times, this is the absolute

1643
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: risk versus the relative risk is it's a real thing.

1644
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 1: But I think if the question you're saying is, look,

1645
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 1: I'm worried about myocarditis period, how likely is my child

1646
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: to get myocarditis? From the vaccine versus from COVID. Okay,

1647
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 1: not just hey, how likely are they end up in

1648
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: the hospital period from COVID? But just how likely are

1649
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: they to end up with myocarditis? I think you know, like,

1650
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: if you were to ask a question how likely you'd

1651
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 1: end up in the hospital after a vaccine versus how

1652
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: likely you end up in the hospital after COVID, that

1653
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: would be a fair comparison. What do you think is

1654
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,560
Speaker 1: wrong with this comparison that they're making. Let's put it

1655
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 1: up again so you can specifically read it and tell

1656
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 1: me what's because I feel like you're kind of cherry

1657
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: picking here. Now. This is again, this is what conversation

1658
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 1: kicks in. This is where us as podcast as people

1659
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: that communicate back and forth, back and forth back. We

1660
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: don't read teleprompters. We don't read teleprompters. We don't read

1661
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 1: facts that somebody else typed up and just put on

1662
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 1: our this and we just get the yeah, man, so

1663
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: eighty six percent of the nah, we gotta be able

1664
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,560
Speaker 1: to have dialogue about our ideas and standing next to

1665
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 1: him and stand up under scrutiny. This is this is

1666
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: squid games man, because it says the data suggests that

1667
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: boys twelve to fifteen with no underlying medical conditions are

1668
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: four to six times more likely to be diagnosed with

1669
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 1: vaccine related miocarditis then ending up in the hospital with

1670
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: COVID ending up in the hospital with COVID for anything, Right.

1671
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's there are two different groups of patients here,

1672
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,560
Speaker 1: one is specifically milecarditis, right, But ending up in the

1673
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: hospital with COVID over anything would give you more data,

1674
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: give you more instances, right, So I mean that would

1675
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 1: make more people hospitalized with COVID. Your your example falls

1676
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: the wrong way. So so right, what I'm saying is

1677
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: that most of the people who got myocarditis did not

1678
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: need to go to the hospital. That's what I'm saying.

1679
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 1: That they they they were treatable outside the hospital. Right,

1680
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: So you're saying that it's okay that they got because

1681
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: they didn't wind up in the hospital. Joe, No, No,

1682
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 1: not at all. I'm not. I'm not saying but it

1683
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: doesn't even say that that. It doesn't say that, but

1684
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't say that they're not hospitalized. Doesn't say that. Right,

1685
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: that's eighty six percent of the boys affected required some

1686
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: hospital care. Yeah, I think amation Yeah, I don't know

1687
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 1: that they ended up to see that. They don't want

1688
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: to accept it. Right there, Six percent of the boys

1689
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: affected by vaccine related myocarditis required some This may be

1690
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: too geeky for people who don't like you know, I mean,

1691
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 1: look at the data. Concern you just doesn't make you pause.

1692
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: It does concern me totally, I think. But question still

1693
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 1: is from a risk reward proposition, what is the like

1694
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 1: risk reward proposition? There is very clear no, no, but

1695
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that if I say, hey, look,

1696
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm worried about myocarditis. Okay, let's say that's the thing.

1697
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: Let's just take that as an example. Okay, what is

1698
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 1: the likelihood I'm going to have myocarditis from the vaccine

1699
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:23,520
Speaker 1: versus myocarditis from the disease. It seems like the likelihood,

1700
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,839
Speaker 1: according to that study for young boys age twelve to fifteen,

1701
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: is far more likely to get myocarditis from the vaccine

1702
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: than you are from COVID. There's there's not a lot

1703
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: of kids who go to the hospital for COVID. You're

1704
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 1: right about that, and myocarditis is a risk, But myocarditis

1705
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: is more common in those who get the disease. According

1706
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: to that study. I know not I annoring to that study.

1707
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: It's what you're saying it, but you're ignoring the science

1708
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: that they're presenting. They're showing that you're more likely to

1709
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: get miocarditis at a large number, four to six times more.

1710
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 1: Like they're not saying myocarditis. They're they're saying it's it's

1711
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: then be hospitalized with COVID hospitalized. Okay, push to put

1712
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 1: that up. It's saying you're four to six times more

1713
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 1: likely to get three times to be hospitalized from COVID.

1714
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: I will take a closer look at this. But here,

1715
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: and but you have an impulse to defend vaccination in

1716
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: light of this data. Can I pull out something here?

1717
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: Because I have I have been thinking about this a lot,

1718
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I got teenage kids, and we

1719
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 1: we looked a lot of things, the myocarditis data overall.

1720
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: So but that is saying it's your four to six

1721
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: more likely to get myocarditis than you are to be

1722
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: hospitalized for COVID for any reason at all. Yeah. So

1723
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 1: here here's the here's the myocarditis data specifically, which showed

1724
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: that it was a sixteen times higher risk of myocarditis

1725
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: among patients with COVID nineteen as compared to the vast

1726
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: But this is among all patients, ninety year old people.

1727
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: They he's talking about, you're talking about. We're specifically talking

1728
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 1: about twelve to fifteen year old boys. What I was

1729
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 1: saying to you is your confidence and not worrying about

1730
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 1: catching COVID because you're a healthy guy, and because you've

1731
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: been vaccinated. So you catching an infection of a highly

1732
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 1: novel virus, which is a real thing, you're less worried

1733
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: about that because of your circumstances. What I'm saying, because

1734
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm because I have immunity. These young boys will breathe

1735
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 1: through this thing for the most part. You know that, right.

1736
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: I think people, most young people breeze through it, including

1737
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: my own children, breathe through it. Yes, But can they

1738
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 1: can they spread it? Though? Can they spread it? You

1739
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: can spread it. I can spread it if you get sick.

1740
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: But you're not worried about it because you'll be Okay,

1741
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm far less. Look, it's not it's not a perfect vaccine.

1742
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that. But if I tell you, I'm

1743
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: eight times less likely to get infected, right, But you

1744
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: could get infected and thousands and thousands of people have

1745
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 1: and are still spreading it. Right. My point was that

1746
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: your attitude, which is a totally reasonable attitude of not

1747
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 1: being concerned about a breakthrough infection, is exactly the same

1748
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: way a lot of people feel about their children and COVID.

1749
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I think you see my point.

1750
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: I do I I and I appreciate the conversation around this,

1751
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: but I think that you know, we have to apply

1752
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 1: the same degree of certainty and confidence and across the board. Right, Well,

1753
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: when I tell you that I am not concerned about

1754
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: getting a significant breakthrough infection, I mean that because I

1755
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: know that the people who do get these significant breakthrough

1756
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 1: infections are people who are more vulnerable and elderly. Right,

1757
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 1: we know who the five percent are? True, that guy

1758
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 1: is fifty more likely saying I'm saying more likely. That's

1759
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 1: that's That's what I'm talking about with the certainty, Joe,

1760
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: It's like, we can't we So now he's saying, oh,

1761
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about with the certainty, and we

1762
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: can't be certain. We can't be certain. But I thought

1763
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 1: vaccines did speak to certainty. I thought vaccines speak to

1764
01:43:52,280 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 1: the cure of the direct vaccination of something I thought

1765
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: stood for, you know, exterminating it and and fighting against

1766
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: it and holding it, um, holding the symptoms hostage. But again, man,

1767
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: I just again, you guys know, I always like to

1768
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 1: watch the white podcasters the black podcasters, you know, and

1769
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: then sometimes I poured the colors off and I just

1770
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: watched podcasts against mainstream media, podcasts against rap, rap against

1771
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 1: podcast you know, just to see how everything intertwines and

1772
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: know my position in place in the culture. Um. I

1773
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: don't want to say that this interview ended without those

1774
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: guys having a great conversation. It was like a three

1775
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: four hour podcast, so they had great times. The point

1776
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:55,799
Speaker 1: is that when we pull you into this podcast world,

1777
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: it ain't a lot of people that can s vibe

1778
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: when you when you're standing next to somebody that done

1779
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: the research, got the work, and they communicate this way

1780
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 1: for a living. It's just rough to to dance with

1781
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: those people. Um. With that being said, I'm gonna take

1782
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: a quick break, gonna come back with Kyrie Irving, um,

1783
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 1: and then maybe a couple of more things then we'll

1784
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: get out of here. We'd like to give y'all a

1785
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 1: good long podcast. Now, y'all something to come back to it.

1786
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:32,600
Speaker 1: Just build the catalog up, you know, So shout out y'allum,

1787
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:36,679
Speaker 1: give us a second and we'll be right back. After

1788
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: this break, we'll be back breaking a game down with

1789
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 1: each other their podcast stay tune, all right, So I

1790
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,480
Speaker 1: want to talk about Kyrie Irving, and after this podcast,

1791
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try not to speak on the vaccine any more,

1792
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 1: right because what's happening is is that they're not making

1793
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 1: you not talk about the vaccine. Mean, you do what

1794
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: you want want to do, but they demonetize everywhere that

1795
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 1: you could be monetized um or shadow baying their content.

1796
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: So it's starting to become unproductive to explore just even

1797
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 1: just even the topic. Right. And see, that's why I

1798
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: tell people you gotta be careful what you're understanding, because

1799
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 1: somebody can tell you, right, somebody, somebody can trick you

1800
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 1: into thinking like they will never tell you what you

1801
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: can or cannot do, but then they create an environment

1802
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,679
Speaker 1: that where it's non productive to do what they wish

1803
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: that you don't do. You see what I'm saying. Then

1804
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: you gotta freedom to do what you want to do.

1805
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: But we know where your we know where your where

1806
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 1: your morals lie, and we know where your needs lie, right,

1807
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 1: and so your needs lie on this side of things.

1808
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 1: So if we interrupt or disrupt this side of things,

1809
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: when you go against that, naturally it makes you stop

1810
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 1: doing it. You know, the same with a lot of

1811
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: the platforms. When you mentioned certain things or you talk

1812
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: about certain things, it puts your account in a certain spot.

1813
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: So they're never saying that we're controlling what comes out

1814
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: of your mouth. But once you do say those things,

1815
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 1: we put your platform in a situation of ways now

1816
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 1: not making any money. And we are in a capitalist society,

1817
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: so we got to always think about making money when

1818
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 1: we do things. But Kyrie Irving situation, I gotta speak about.

1819
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 1: It's a lot going on with it. Kyrie Irving and

1820
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith has had a very very unique exchange

1821
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 1: in lieu of Kyrie Irving being hesitant in regards to

1822
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 1: the vaccine, Stephen A. Smith being one of the ones

1823
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,799
Speaker 1: that you hit me talk about in regards to supreme

1824
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,480
Speaker 1: game operating on a high level in regards to communication,

1825
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: one of the best ones. However, I think, um, I

1826
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,759
Speaker 1: think that the pressure that they've now put on Stephen

1827
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: A Smith, or maybe he done it to himself. Well,

1828
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 1: you got to think the position he's speaking from. See,

1829
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,719
Speaker 1: that's why I always tell people it's less about what's

1830
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: being said and more about who's saying it. And that

1831
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 1: goes with everything. It's less about what's being said and

1832
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 1: more about who's saying it. When you look at Stephen

1833
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 1: A Smith, he got the whole boat on his back.

1834
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: He got the whole situation on his back. So Stephen

1835
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,560
Speaker 1: A Smith may start to reach in the crowd and

1836
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: grab shit that he ain't got no bid in his doing,

1837
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 1: but he trying to will itself to this next situation,

1838
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 1: this next you know, a re up that may be

1839
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: dying the street a little bit. And also keep the

1840
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: numbers in a certain place. Anytime you see a show,

1841
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 1: respect for lit to Stephen A Smith, because I'm not

1842
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 1: speaking to the numbers of the show or speaking to

1843
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: the worth in the marketplace of the show. I'm speaking

1844
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: to the mindset of the man that now is in

1845
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 1: the forefront of that vehicle, still remaining in those positions

1846
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: because it's a hard fall from the top of the hill.

1847
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 1: Everybody talked about what it was like at the top.

1848
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: A lot of them dudes don't talk about now. They

1849
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 1: got to live at the bottom. That was a hard fall.

1850
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: And every time that, you know, all that work you

1851
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 1: put in and get to the top of the hill,

1852
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: at some point you gotta come back down that hell,

1853
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: it's on you, you know. Um. And that's why they

1854
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: say treat people a certain way on your way up,

1855
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 1: because you got to see them same people on your

1856
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 1: way down. A lot of them people keep them same positions.

1857
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: Some of the people that when you came in the

1858
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 1: game as a rapper and you was marking it in

1859
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, they had already been doing that for five years.

1860
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: It's now twenty twenty two, and now they still doing

1861
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: that same job. You know, they still kind of they've

1862
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,600
Speaker 1: made a living there and they're gonna remain there and

1863
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: remain influential in those little markets, right, So just be

1864
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 1: careful how you treat people. Um. You look at you

1865
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: look at Stephen A. Smith and him being in a

1866
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:27,440
Speaker 1: position to now have to single handedly drive the ESPN

1867
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 1: daytime television vehicle by itself, and then you start to

1868
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 1: see him, you know, when when I when I heard

1869
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 1: him on Breakfast Clubs say that he had like thousands

1870
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:44,719
Speaker 1: of takes or it might have been hot ninety seven.

1871
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: One of these interviews he did, he had broken down,

1872
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 1: which I know they do that for negotiation purposes, right,

1873
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: just kind of knowing how much work I've really put in,

1874
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 1: how much time slots I've been available to regurgitate or

1875
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: to rehash different opinions about the same subject. But when

1876
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 1: I heard them say that, yo, I've been doing this

1877
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: for this many years, I got like forty five thousand

1878
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 1: takes and this and that, I'm like, wow, but now

1879
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 1: you pigeonhole yourself. So you see him go at Kyrie

1880
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 1: takes a very aggressive approach. His approach to Carrie Irvin

1881
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: was very aggressive, right, and it seemed to be fueled

1882
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: by sports, you know, in which I blame. I don't

1883
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: blame the parent company, but I kind of blame the

1884
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 1: atmosphere that they've had Stephen A. Smith in for the

1885
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: last ten years on why you start to see these things.

1886
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 1: You know, Stephen A. Smith basically lives with an ear

1887
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 1: with a bluetooth in his ear connected to whenever they

1888
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 1: say they go live. I've seen him go live sometimes

1889
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 1: to what looks like in a room somewhere. When something happens,

1890
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 1: they depend on dude. So they're working him. They working him.

1891
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 1: You know, he's working extremely hard. What's happened is his

1892
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 1: life now has become sports. It's almost like, you don't

1893
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 1: he's not seen past. Everything is so sports generated. It's

1894
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 1: so he's so ingratiated and the team and the stats

1895
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 1: and this and that to almost where it's like it's

1896
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: no feeling in now. You know, they gotta let Stephen

1897
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 1: the Smith bring his head to boll water Man sometimes

1898
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: and live a little bit and come back to the

1899
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: to the hood and pass out backpacks and hood people

1900
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 1: and talk to people, you know what I'm saying, So

1901
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 1: you can feel what they feel like when you know,

1902
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 1: when mama and them lost their job because you know,

1903
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 1: she maybe didn't want to get vaccinated because of whatever

1904
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,679
Speaker 1: the situation may have being, you know, and she can't

1905
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 1: afford the pay of bills. Whether that's right or wrong,

1906
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 1: you know, that's a different discussion. Just to be able

1907
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: to feel what it feels like to be afraid, what

1908
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 1: it feels like to be to to look something in

1909
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: the face and not be sure about it. But again,

1910
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Speaker 1: your your your your your range. Don't go past you

1911
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Speaker 1: did a five million dollars deal for two years and

1912
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Speaker 1: you're making forty million dollars a year last two years

1913
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 1: in the road, you miss eighteen games. Your mind don't

1914
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 1: go past that they do unlocked you. Listen, You're like

1915
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Speaker 1: a little rat on the little on the spinning where

1916
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: they do unlocked you in. You can be doing anything

1917
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: in that cage. That rat don't know what's going on.

1918
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: You can be putting pores and all around every piece

1919
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 1: of that that that red cage. And he would never

1920
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 1: know because they got him caught on that on that wheel.

1921
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 1: And he gone, and he going, and he going, and

1922
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,799
Speaker 1: he going to the point where he don't even understand.

1923
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 1: This platform can be used in so many different ways.

1924
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 1: I hear I hear him also so say, and I

1925
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 1: got love from him. You hit me big and mub.

1926
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 1: He's a big boy in this space. I heard him say,

1927
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 1: you want a nighttime television show? And he works for Disney.

1928
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: Something is disconnected there for me. Something is disconnected there

1929
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 1: for me. I'll leave it at that. As hard as

1930
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 1: you work over there, my brother, to the point where

1931
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: they've detached you from even knowing what it feels like.

1932
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 1: Certain things see everything ain't about the stats, bro, Certain

1933
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 1: things about impact do that I'm not saying don't take

1934
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 1: a vaccine. I'm not into that conversation. Me and my

1935
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: family do what's right for us, what we feel should

1936
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 1: be right. I'm not telling nobody what to do either way.

1937
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is, how can we place

1938
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 1: someone in a situation to where they can't be afraid.

1939
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 1: You tell a person you can't be afraid, you can't

1940
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 1: be we are you cannot think twice about this. That

1941
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 1: scares me in itself. So for for you to wrap

1942
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 1: stats around that, it lets me know that you lack

1943
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: the feelings. You lack the ability to understand that there's

1944
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: feelings involved. Not only that, we got people like Kyrie

1945
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: IRV and his body is everything to him. His body

1946
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 1: is everything to him. His body is what makes him

1947
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 1: the money that you're talking about, that he's putting that risk,

1948
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 1: so his body, listen anything else. I see people be

1949
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: specific with the cheese they eat. I see people be

1950
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 1: specific with the straws they use. I see people be

1951
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: specific about things that go inside they body. My boy,

1952
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: So I can't wrap my mind around how you don't

1953
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: want me to pay attention to the things that I'm

1954
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: putting inside my body. You won't need to ignore that

1955
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 1: and say, yo the team though, yo, yo the stats man.

1956
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: What you're doing, you're hurting the two. And what I'm

1957
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 1: saying is by default, like that's collateral damage, that's unintentional damage.

1958
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: Whatever's happening with the team. Right, But if we look

1959
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 1: at the natural order things, you can't tell me to

1960
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: worry about the calories I eat and the train and

1961
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: don't eat like this because you gotta have this much standing,

1962
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, y'all y'all hooking me up with nutritional people

1963
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: to watch everything they go inside my body as an athlete,

1964
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 1: y'all sending me the specific doctors. Do not go to them.

1965
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 1: Doctors come these the best, y'all doing these things because

1966
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 1: my body means so much, not only to y'all but

1967
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: to me. So then when I'm in a place, in

1968
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Speaker 1: a position to be unsure about something that does have

1969
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the data out of

1970
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: Israel right in the UK for healthy men, for healthy people, right,

1971
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 1: we assume an NBA player to be healthy under the

1972
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 1: scrutiny of doctors at all time, right, so it says

1973
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 1: healthy men should be Okay, Now that's not for me

1974
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: to say. I don't know, but all I'm telling you

1975
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 1: is when you look at the data and you really

1976
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 1: look at things. At some point, if my body is

1977
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: first of all, everybody body is the vehicle of life.

1978
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, I'm making one hundred and

1979
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 1: fifty two hundred million dollars left off his body. I

1980
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: got two three more hundred million. You understand, I don't

1981
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 1: know if they you know? And then by me doing

1982
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: this now, by them painting it this way, now, do

1983
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 1: somebody try to put something wrong? Give me? Do they

1984
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 1: try to make example like I don't know, do I

1985
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 1: need to get paranoia? Because all I say it was

1986
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 1: let me look into it. But I don't see the difference.

1987
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand how um people like Stephen

1988
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: Naye right don't give any leads or any lead way

1989
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 1: to people that's clearly afraid, right. They I see people

1990
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 1: that don't even know. I ask people things that I've

1991
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: just learned about, even how to administer the vaccine, and

1992
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 1: people that's administrating vaccines don't even know this. I'm like, Okay,

1993
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 1: when you put it in, do you do you back

1994
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 1: up to make sure you don't see any blood, to

1995
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 1: make sure it's not going directly in the in the

1996
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 1: blood stream. That's another problem. You understand these things that

1997
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: people don't even know that's responsible for doing these things right,

1998
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: And I pray, uh, you know, for whoever taking it,

1999
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, or the people that took it to be

2000
01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: to be UM, to be to be all right. I

2001
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 1: just don't know. Again, I don't know the ends and

2002
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 1: out's about it. My only my only thing is Carrie

2003
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 1: Irving UM with the freedom of choice, you know, standing

2004
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 1: next to being um one of the biggest names in basketball.

2005
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 1: First thing I thought was, man, it's Katie trying to

2006
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 1: beat Colin Kaepernick. That's the first thing that came to

2007
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 1: my mind, because you know, I'm always looking at things

2008
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 1: and trying to see, you know, the why behind it.

2009
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't never care what people say. I try to

2010
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 1: figure why they're saying it, you know what I'm saying

2011
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: and um. And so when when he first did it,

2012
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of was like, yo, hes trying

2013
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 1: to move into Colin Kaepernick type vibe. But then when

2014
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 1: they said the money he was putting the money at Rising,

2015
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 1: he still was like, Yeah, that ain't moving me. I

2016
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, so he oh he not playing, Oh

2017
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 1: he not playing? Oh oh, so he about his bit

2018
01:59:57,160 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 1: in it. I see what he got going, you know,

2019
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 1: and and they taking him through a lot you know,

2020
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Speaker 1: just you know behind it, and a lot come with

2021
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 1: those kind of decisions, you know. Um see, you know

2022
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 1: here is the head. When you become someone that people

2023
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 1: look to, someone that's somewhat influential, right, Um, then you

2024
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 1: know that come with a price. Now, I did hear

2025
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 1: Steve stephen A. Smith made a good point and said, listen,

2026
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 1: you you gotta stay in the NBA for people to

2027
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 1: care about what you're saying. This is what Stephen A.

2028
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 1: Smith said the Kyrie Basically, if you're not in the NBA,

2029
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 1: nobody care about what you're saying. I'm not sure if

2030
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 1: that's the case. I would say that the NBA does

2031
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: amplify the voice, um, and they seem to be on

2032
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 1: the right side of freedom of speech and expression and

2033
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 1: things like that. So um, I think he will reach

2034
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: more people if, if, if he is in the NBA.

2035
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 1: But I don't want to diminish the impact of his

2036
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 1: voice because he's no longer in that system that I

2037
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 1: was just talking about. You know that that hamstone the wheel, um,

2038
02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 1: and he stepped outside of that for a second to

2039
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 1: see what's going on in regards to what he's gonna

2040
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 1: put in his body. Man, And I think freedom of

2041
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:21,280
Speaker 1: choice is a powerful thing, you know, and it's a

2042
02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: slippery slope, you know. First is this, and it turns

2043
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 1: into that, then that turns into those. See that. First

2044
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 1: it starts at yeah, so it start at one, the

2045
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 1: start at this. Then it's turned into that you feel me,

2046
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 1: then that turned into those, it becomes na's plural. It's

2047
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of shit going on. They don't took from

2048
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 1: you all under the guise of under the guise of

2049
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 1: helping you. And I want to get off of that

2050
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 1: because again, it's not monetiz monetization friendly, so I need

2051
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,200
Speaker 1: to stay away from that. And one thing about the Internet,

2052
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna remember ain't undefeated. I don't give a damn

2053
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 1: who you is and what you tell me. The Internet

2054
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 1: gonna be undefeated. When Kyrie came and this is happening, happening.

2055
02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 1: The first thing I saw on the internet says they left.

2056
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:18,760
Speaker 1: They let Magic Johnson played with full blown aids, but

2057
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: they did not let Kyrie play because he didn't take

2058
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 1: a vaccine. And man, when I tell you that hit

2059
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 1: me hard. I said, Yo, that's deep. You know, respect

2060
02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 1: the Magic Johnson one of the big hustlers in the game.

2061
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: You know, one of the biggest hustlers in the game,

2062
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:40,720
Speaker 1: blessed man. You know what I'm saying. But the optics

2063
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 1: of that sound that that look crazy when they scrolled

2064
02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 1: down and I've seen that that looked wild. Then you

2065
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 1: do with that what you make, you know what I'm saying.

2066
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:52,960
Speaker 1: But I think back then, you know, and I don't

2067
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: want to have a bunch of conversations about these things

2068
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm not educated in those areas enough

2069
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 1: to be able to completely understand the impact of what

2070
02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because see, those things become nuanced on that side,

2071
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 1: it becomes complex to understand the way to communicate. Um,

2072
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:17,640
Speaker 1: if you have not spent time in some of those worlds, right,

2073
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:21,160
Speaker 1: And when I say worlds, I mean communities. You know. Um,

2074
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't travel outside of my community in regards to

2075
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,560
Speaker 1: interaction on a daily basis, so so I don't have

2076
02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: any guidelines, you know, any guard rails on what what

2077
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: is disrespectful and what's not, So I'd rather stay away

2078
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 1: from it. But back then, you know, they let Magic

2079
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:44,080
Speaker 1: play with that and Calrie Kain play. So let's see

2080
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 1: what happens. I guess it will continue to unfold and

2081
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:49,640
Speaker 1: and we'll be right there to watch and see what happened.

2082
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:56,840
Speaker 1: And it also it also shows you, right how America

2083
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 1: is so complex. On one end, you got people fighting

2084
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:05,680
Speaker 1: for their rights and their bodies, and both parties are

2085
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:11,600
Speaker 1: right in by opinion that you got what one party saying, hey,

2086
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's her body. You can't tell her what

2087
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 1: to do with her body, X y Z, you know,

2088
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 1: and people fighting for that. And then on the other side,

2089
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 1: you got people fighting saying you must go and do

2090
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:28,760
Speaker 1: this or you will be ostracized, you know, and you

2091
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 1: will be outcast. It's just a weird, weird country that

2092
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: we're in. We'll see who wins the next popularity contest.

2093
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: I think Trump is coming back, and I think Trump

2094
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,400
Speaker 1: will win. I just was telling my partner, I think

2095
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Speaker 1: Trump will win. I think this is what I think.

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02:04:48,680 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna put Trump right back in, you know,

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02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 1: because I hear people saying that, even people that were

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02:04:56,800 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 1: going against him. I hear them saying, like, uh man,

2099
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:04,440
Speaker 1: they got to bring Trump back. Man. The money will flowing,

2100
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:08,840
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they'll come out with something closer to

2101
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 1: election time, right, they'll come out with a sky door

2102
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: or something he said on the email, or you know,

2103
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 1: they'll come out with something, because that's that's that's that's

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02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 1: what politics is. It's part of the game. But I

2105
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 1: think that this time he probably gonna win, man, because

2106
02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 1: they're doing a good job at making Joe Biden look

2107
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 1: like what he's doing is weak. I don't know enough

2108
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 1: about it, and I'm gonna start looking more into it.

2109
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 1: I kind of been on my on my prosperity vibe

2110
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:41,720
Speaker 1: right now, so I'm kind of tapped out of all

2111
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 1: of that, you know, but I'm gonna tap back into

2112
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 1: it and see. But even they're like, you know, things

2113
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 1: are happening, man, and and and even in America, like

2114
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 1: I was telling my partner, these jobs are having a

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02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: hard time getting people to come back to work. Like

2116
02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: I was seeing Chick fil A start at nineteen Walmart

2117
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:06,440
Speaker 1: started twenty one dollars in certain states in America. You

2118
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:13,200
Speaker 1: know this is happening because people have got off for

2119
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 1: the hamster will and they've been able to see what's happening, like, oh,

2120
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:20,080
Speaker 1: we can get some money. I'm not working for twenty

2121
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:24,920
Speaker 1: five dollars an hour. No more, brother, that's over. You're

2122
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure something else out, like you know

2123
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So people are starting to create their

2124
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 1: own things, and and they're having trouble out there getting

2125
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:38,080
Speaker 1: these jobs. Feel you know, it's people are you know,

2126
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:40,680
Speaker 1: people kicking in the high gearing starting their own stuff.

2127
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 1: And I think it's a beautiful thing because what happens

2128
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:46,320
Speaker 1: with the job thing, right, they lock you in, right,

2129
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:49,240
Speaker 1: so you look up and see they tricked mama and

2130
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:52,480
Speaker 1: them with that. Somebody got to break that because they

2131
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:56,200
Speaker 1: treat They tricked mama and them with that. You know,

2132
02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:58,920
Speaker 1: they tricked mama and them in the willing somebody else

2133
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:02,560
Speaker 1: dreams into flu wishing, you know, and she looked down

2134
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 1: and she missed no days, and she don't work thirty

2135
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:09,840
Speaker 1: straight years for the people. She look up. She got

2136
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:12,200
Speaker 1: a little retirement, a little something here and there, but

2137
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 1: it ain't just no like thirty years, you know what

2138
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like, nah, they don't trick them with that.

2139
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:23,800
Speaker 1: They tricked mama. Then with that, we gotta break that.

2140
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 1: So you know, when the pandemic happened, people broke out

2141
02:07:29,320 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 1: of that and start investing the little money. They head

2142
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 1: over here doing this, doing that, and starting to figure out,

2143
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 1: oh I don't gotta I don't gotta do that, na, na, No.

2144
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 1: People start selling courses. Man, you can do this, You

2145
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:42,200
Speaker 1: can do that. Hey, yo, you can do this. Man,

2146
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:44,000
Speaker 1: you don't even need good credit. You can do that.

2147
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:48,040
Speaker 1: Like stuff started happening, Man, that shit start changing people lives,

2148
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,520
Speaker 1: only fans, start changing girls lives. They go on there,

2149
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 1: do a little something. I'm talking about the ones that

2150
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 1: pivoted and when he grabbed some properties and some businesses

2151
02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:01,040
Speaker 1: and this and that and sweep they you know, situation clean.

2152
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 1: Then folks, they profited during the pandemic. Then folks not

2153
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:07,800
Speaker 1: going to know a lot of those same girls, that's

2154
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 1: only fans will being the girls that worked at these

2155
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 1: little spots. You would go in, you know, you might

2156
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 1: see a girl that stick working here. She might got

2157
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:18,080
Speaker 1: an only fans now and they can't getting her to

2158
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 1: come for fifteen dollars no more. That's dead, you know

2159
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So again, it effectively changed the market

2160
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:32,400
Speaker 1: the pandemic, did you know. And and they're having trouble,

2161
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, keeping people in them jars

2162
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 1: and um, I just think you gotta break that cycle. Man,

2163
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:40,160
Speaker 1: you don't want to look up. And then thirty year

2164
02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:43,760
Speaker 1: they didn't broke your body down, Spendler, Spendler, nigga driving

2165
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:46,360
Speaker 1: a fork lift for one of you niggas, you know,

2166
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 1: lifting this and that. Man, they breaking you down. Thirty year,

2167
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,560
Speaker 1: you look up, man, because see this is how they

2168
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 1: trick you. They put you on a point system so

2169
02:08:56,840 --> 02:08:58,800
Speaker 1: they don't see you don't even know. They donna let

2170
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 1: you only miss folks days out the whole year, and

2171
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:05,480
Speaker 1: then they might give you ten days on vacations, so

2172
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 1: you got fourteen days out of three hundred and sixty

2173
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:12,680
Speaker 1: five days that you can take off. And they think

2174
02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 1: it's a win, to the point where if you start

2175
02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 1: missing more than that, they're start to finify you. You understand,

2176
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:23,760
Speaker 1: So like you look up, man, thirty years don't win,

2177
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 1: bad man, You don't really only spent ninety one days

2178
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:31,560
Speaker 1: by yourself in ten years, Like not by yourself but

2179
02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 1: taking off and kind of doing what you want to do.

2180
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:38,640
Speaker 1: You spent one hundred and eight days in fifteen years.

2181
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 1: Like you gotta be smarter than that, Like you gotta

2182
02:09:42,080 --> 02:09:45,160
Speaker 1: break that. You know what I'm saying you gotta break that,

2183
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:48,080
Speaker 1: not saying nothing wrong, no job, because sometimes they can.

2184
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 1: That can put you in a position to start to

2185
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:54,440
Speaker 1: pivot other places. You know what I'm saying. It's an

2186
02:09:54,440 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 1: important transition that can happen from that. Oh, I wanted

2187
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:01,440
Speaker 1: to tell y'all too, I'm about to start doing Patreon

2188
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 1: with y'all. So I'm gonna do. I'm gonna call it

2189
02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 1: It's up there with y'all. Right, And so you become

2190
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:11,880
Speaker 1: a member of the Patreon um if you have a

2191
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:15,600
Speaker 1: crazy story, UM, if you have a crazy encounter, maybe

2192
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 1: a crazy job firing, or crazy girlfriend, crazy boyfriend, UM,

2193
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:24,600
Speaker 1: just any wild story. You know what I'm saying. You,

2194
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna chop it up about that over there, man,

2195
02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:30,040
Speaker 1: and just kick it with my people over there. So

2196
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:33,800
Speaker 1: make sure y'all subscribe to Patreon It's up there podcast

2197
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 1: and then send your send your story to the DM

2198
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 1: and then we'll put you on the calendar or to

2199
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:44,360
Speaker 1: come and just just you know, chop it up and

2200
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:47,840
Speaker 1: tell your crazy story and and well we'll just kick

2201
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:50,200
Speaker 1: it over there. I think I'm gonna make it probably

2202
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 1: fine ten dollars a month for that access um. And

2203
02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:57,840
Speaker 1: then We'll do it as much as y'all want to

2204
02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:01,040
Speaker 1: do it as many people it's got good story, Um,

2205
02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 1: we'll do it. You know what I'm saying. So make

2206
02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:06,280
Speaker 1: sure y'all tappy in on that. Man. That's my that's

2207
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,520
Speaker 1: my way to talk to y'all, you know what I'm saying,

2208
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:10,840
Speaker 1: because I don't want to go live a lot of

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02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:13,040
Speaker 1: them people on there, you know, they might not be

2210
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:15,800
Speaker 1: really tapped in with me. So I need the people

2211
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 1: that's really tapped in. Women that want to either you

2212
02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:20,400
Speaker 1: might eat, you might want to get up and get

2213
02:11:20,480 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 1: some topics, or give me a perspective on something like loon,

2214
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:26,520
Speaker 1: did you check out this this is? You know, we

2215
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 1: can chop it up like going to layout woodmen, you

2216
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:31,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and figure out what we're gonna

2217
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 1: talk about on the next showing. Things like that. So

2218
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 1: I think that'll be dope. So make sure y'all make

2219
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:40,840
Speaker 1: sure y'all come over there and do that. I wrote

2220
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,520
Speaker 1: this down. I'm not looking for people in the industry

2221
02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:47,040
Speaker 1: to help me. I'm looking for companies. I understand that

2222
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm competition to some of these guys, and I'm the

2223
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:54,880
Speaker 1: kind of competition that's Um, that's probably because I don't know,

2224
02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know what I'm doing right,

2225
02:11:57,200 --> 02:11:59,160
Speaker 1: So when I'm doing these things, I don't know if

2226
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:02,560
Speaker 1: people taking them shots because I'm putting game down, which

2227
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:05,240
Speaker 1: I think game respect games, so it shouldn't be took

2228
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:07,280
Speaker 1: as a shot. But if it is, it's cool. I

2229
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 1: feel the energy when they when they push up on me.

2230
02:12:10,280 --> 02:12:16,080
Speaker 1: But um, I'm not looking for people to mess with

2231
02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:18,760
Speaker 1: me or because I know not the not the not

2232
02:12:18,920 --> 02:12:22,960
Speaker 1: the listeners. I'm talking about industry guys. I'm I'm looking

2233
02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 1: forward within them not either understanding me or being kind

2234
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:31,200
Speaker 1: of spooped out in regards to you know, uh, communication

2235
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:34,360
Speaker 1: with somebody like me that that that that may can

2236
02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:37,160
Speaker 1: take some of their power from them, you know what

2237
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm looking for companies. I'm looking to

2238
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:44,320
Speaker 1: do business with companies that's looking to reach out people.

2239
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:47,680
Speaker 1: I build my own fan base, I build my own

2240
02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:50,560
Speaker 1: people that come listen to me. So I'm looking for

2241
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:53,560
Speaker 1: my I'm looking for the people that's coming looking for me,

2242
02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:57,520
Speaker 1: that's looking to talk to the to the the people

2243
02:12:57,600 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 1: that like to listen to me. And you got to

2244
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,520
Speaker 1: think about my range. You know, I'm going from doctor

2245
02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 1: Umar to to people that got out from life sentences.

2246
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going from floor Mayweather to people that

2247
02:13:10,160 --> 02:13:13,440
Speaker 1: uh to the New York nine trade bloods with wildcatting

2248
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:17,160
Speaker 1: them on my show. So I'm I'm like, I'm doing

2249
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:19,200
Speaker 1: all kind of shit, you know what I'm saying. And

2250
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:23,480
Speaker 1: then it's just me by myself, this kicking major game. So, um,

2251
02:13:24,640 --> 02:13:27,160
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna live in the marketplace and his own.

2252
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna carve out his own little area and it's

2253
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna live there and it'll be profitable, you know what

2254
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, um, I'm looking forward to to keep

2255
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:39,320
Speaker 1: building the platform and pushing it in the right direction.

2256
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna speak about this and then we'll

2257
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:48,400
Speaker 1: get out of here. Um. DJ Academics was on Clubhouse. Um.

2258
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:51,960
Speaker 1: Of course he responded to Rory and Mall getting the

2259
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:55,960
Speaker 1: Timion dollar deal on this podcast and squashing the beet

2260
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:57,880
Speaker 1: for meet I think they said he spoke on his

2261
02:13:58,040 --> 02:14:04,000
Speaker 1: podcast about but after that he went to Clubhouse. I

2262
02:14:04,120 --> 02:14:06,680
Speaker 1: think after the meet day he like, I'm coming to Clubhouse.

2263
02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:08,480
Speaker 1: See what they, you know, got to say about it.

2264
02:14:09,040 --> 02:14:12,120
Speaker 1: So he went to Clubhouse after them after that, and

2265
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:16,320
Speaker 1: they came to him about the shy wreck situation. Again,

2266
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,480
Speaker 1: DJ Academics and Whack one hundred, I'm gonna say this

2267
02:14:19,600 --> 02:14:23,480
Speaker 1: for the fourth time have over ten thousand hours in

2268
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 1: discussing these topics. So these dudes are masters in regards

2269
02:14:29,080 --> 02:14:33,400
Speaker 1: to these particular topics. Y'all keep bringing up. Y'all all

2270
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:37,000
Speaker 1: are saying the same thing. Y'all all approaching it from

2271
02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:40,200
Speaker 1: the same angle. They have over ten thousand hours, and

2272
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:42,400
Speaker 1: that's what it takes for you to be a master.

2273
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,760
Speaker 1: So when they come at Whack one hundred about Takashi,

2274
02:14:46,160 --> 02:14:49,280
Speaker 1: he has the same spell he has. They keep coming

2275
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:53,080
Speaker 1: the same way. They can't fading because he's had so

2276
02:14:53,320 --> 02:14:57,040
Speaker 1: much time to to to carve out exactly his intentions.

2277
02:14:57,440 --> 02:14:59,720
Speaker 1: Make it clear. There's no slip ups when he talks

2278
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:03,560
Speaker 1: to wallowing them because he's he's on clubhouse boxing with

2279
02:15:03,680 --> 02:15:07,360
Speaker 1: this every day. So y'all are not really prepared to

2280
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:10,720
Speaker 1: have those conversations at such a high level with people.

2281
02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:12,680
Speaker 1: That's do I know it may not seem like a lot,

2282
02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:14,640
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you the reason why. When you see

2283
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:18,760
Speaker 1: them speak to people, or Whack one hundred speak to people,

2284
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:21,400
Speaker 1: you see how he doesn't He's not shaky. They can't

2285
02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:23,959
Speaker 1: get him to say, um, you know you right? Everything

2286
02:15:24,080 --> 02:15:26,800
Speaker 1: that's in he has a response for because a clubhouse,

2287
02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:30,520
Speaker 1: he's being talked. They're talking all the time about these things,

2288
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:34,520
Speaker 1: and nobody has a unique perspective unless they come talk

2289
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:38,480
Speaker 1: to me. But DJ academics the same way. He's been

2290
02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:41,960
Speaker 1: asked these shy rat questions a million times. So now

2291
02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:45,800
Speaker 1: I have all kind of lanes in my head to

2292
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:48,400
Speaker 1: go with this right, and one of his lanes are

2293
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:53,080
Speaker 1: to push it, push back, say yo, the rappers are

2294
02:15:53,120 --> 02:15:56,000
Speaker 1: doing this. What you expect yo? How when my when

2295
02:15:56,080 --> 02:16:00,240
Speaker 1: they are right? And this is one of the game.

2296
02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:02,840
Speaker 1: So he's on clubhouse and they came to him about it.

2297
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:05,200
Speaker 1: Let's listen to what they said, and then I'll come

2298
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:12,000
Speaker 1: back questions, bro, because I'm gonna keep the same energy

2299
02:16:12,120 --> 02:16:14,400
Speaker 1: when you were here. Hey, hey, listen, I want to

2300
02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:17,120
Speaker 1: say something. We got him in the room now. I

2301
02:16:17,240 --> 02:16:20,480
Speaker 1: don't want a million nigga screaming at him. I don't

2302
02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:24,080
Speaker 1: want no attacks. I don't want any of that. We're

2303
02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:27,800
Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation. Y'all wanted the conversation, Yeah, I

2304
02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:30,920
Speaker 1: got it. Just keep it, hold on, hold on, hold on,

2305
02:16:32,200 --> 02:16:36,800
Speaker 1: keep it respectful. Oh here here, brother, ain't gonna and

2306
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:41,119
Speaker 1: if not, y'all out of here. I mean one Mike

2307
02:16:41,240 --> 02:16:48,400
Speaker 1: as well. So I mean you got so academic, bro.

2308
02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:51,560
Speaker 1: Congratulations on what you're doing. Man. Like I said earlier,

2309
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:54,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your coins from the crib. But I

2310
02:16:54,560 --> 02:17:00,520
Speaker 1: feel like you you I'm fifty fifty three, are said

2311
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:05,640
Speaker 1: something earlier about like you. You you're basically inciting something

2312
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:09,440
Speaker 1: to some magnitude because you have no you have no

2313
02:17:09,640 --> 02:17:13,160
Speaker 1: business in their business. You're just talking about what's hot,

2314
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:16,160
Speaker 1: which is cool. That's that's that's you. But at the

2315
02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:21,400
Speaker 1: same time, hey, you wouldn't have And like you know,

2316
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:24,199
Speaker 1: I think the previous times and by the suit facts,

2317
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:26,240
Speaker 1: but previous times I came in here a lot of

2318
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:29,760
Speaker 1: times I was so much on trying to show yall

2319
02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:35,360
Speaker 1: that it's about joint accountability. That ye about that, But

2320
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:38,720
Speaker 1: that's the that's all about. To say, hold on, I'm

2321
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 1: always done, you know. But but what when when you

2322
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:45,120
Speaker 1: mentioned that, somebody said, I'm in somebody's business. Once you

2323
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:47,840
Speaker 1: put that shit on the end, is anybody's business. If

2324
02:17:47,879 --> 02:17:50,640
Speaker 1: you profited from putting your business on the outside for

2325
02:17:50,959 --> 02:17:52,600
Speaker 1: the people, It's like if you if I make a

2326
02:17:52,720 --> 02:17:55,760
Speaker 1: comment about Safari, and I know I'm taking too, I'm

2327
02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:58,480
Speaker 1: just making a parallel. If I make a comment about

2328
02:17:58,520 --> 02:18:02,440
Speaker 1: Safari and Erica manners relationship that they have basically licensed

2329
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:06,720
Speaker 1: to VH one and pretty much exploited for their benefit,

2330
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't care what they use the money to do,

2331
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:12,200
Speaker 1: but they have now turned their private business into a

2332
02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:15,520
Speaker 1: public business that generates some income. Once at that point,

2333
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't really care how sensity Like, everybody's gonna have

2334
02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:20,600
Speaker 1: an opin. It's the same with me. Like you know,

2335
02:18:20,640 --> 02:18:23,200
Speaker 1: at the moment I became a public figure, you know

2336
02:18:23,240 --> 02:18:24,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, whether you guys, and sometimes I even

2337
02:18:25,160 --> 02:18:26,920
Speaker 1: I listened to some of these conversations to be upon

2338
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:29,920
Speaker 1: YouTube a lot of times, you know, I'll see reason

2339
02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:33,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of y'all having thoughts about me, even

2340
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:36,200
Speaker 1: if I disagree. Because I'm a public figure, I'm here

2341
02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:39,000
Speaker 1: to be you know, um, I'm here to be discussed.

2342
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm here to be you know, critiqued. I'm also I'm

2343
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:44,400
Speaker 1: also here to be disliked if these don't like, you know,

2344
02:18:44,520 --> 02:18:47,240
Speaker 1: rock with whatever I'm doing. But this whole thing of

2345
02:18:47,360 --> 02:18:51,640
Speaker 1: your like, I think I think I heard somebody who

2346
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:57,280
Speaker 1: was like UM, yeah, it's there. It's their business. But

2347
02:18:57,520 --> 02:19:00,400
Speaker 1: you can't really if you talk about it or frighten it.

2348
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:03,080
Speaker 1: They're profited off the whole thing. How was it some

2349
02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:05,520
Speaker 1: personal shit? So really I'm in here to like, you know,

2350
02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:07,640
Speaker 1: I have the conversation with anybody who wants to engage.

2351
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:11,840
Speaker 1: But um, I severely disagree with that point. This ain't

2352
02:19:11,879 --> 02:19:14,600
Speaker 1: no personal business when you're making it into records, when

2353
02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:17,000
Speaker 1: you're literally and by the way, it like, you know,

2354
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:21,720
Speaker 1: we have such a convenient it's like it's a convenient

2355
02:19:22,320 --> 02:19:25,640
Speaker 1: like we give especially entertainers, rappers, like a past. Like

2356
02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:28,119
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're doing. You think, you think, oh,

2357
02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:31,560
Speaker 1: just because they're artists. They're just rapping about actual shit

2358
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:35,080
Speaker 1: going on, and it's just that's their wittings, um to

2359
02:19:35,520 --> 02:19:38,840
Speaker 1: express themselves. No, they know what gets clicks, you know

2360
02:19:38,840 --> 02:19:41,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, like tuth be told if it's the

2361
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 1: reason why, Yeah, they know it gets clicks. And I'm

2362
02:19:44,959 --> 02:19:47,440
Speaker 1: gonna speak to you for a minute. You know, I've

2363
02:19:47,520 --> 02:19:50,520
Speaker 1: told you know, I've I've told you a few things

2364
02:19:51,080 --> 02:19:53,840
Speaker 1: on your page. You know, I need you to really

2365
02:19:53,959 --> 02:19:59,000
Speaker 1: really listen to me. You know, there's a there's a

2366
02:19:59,120 --> 02:20:04,840
Speaker 1: number of reason why you really why you don't understand

2367
02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:07,960
Speaker 1: the gravity of what people are telling you. And I

2368
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:12,600
Speaker 1: understand that they really can't articulated in a way that

2369
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:18,080
Speaker 1: breaks through on your ten thousand hours of regurgitating some

2370
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:21,080
Speaker 1: of the information because you've been bombarded with some of

2371
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:26,840
Speaker 1: these questions. I get that, But you gotta understand what

2372
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:33,400
Speaker 1: you're saying, right, Think about this. I have the right

2373
02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:36,040
Speaker 1: to smoke cigarettes. I have the right to do whatever

2374
02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:38,480
Speaker 1: I want to do with my body, with my mind.

2375
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:42,000
Speaker 1: This is me right. So what I'm saying is right.

2376
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:45,560
Speaker 1: Whatever I put out, I get in. That's on me.

2377
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:51,360
Speaker 1: That's on me. Right. They say no, if I take

2378
02:20:51,480 --> 02:20:53,720
Speaker 1: my gun and shoot my hand, it don't do nothing.

2379
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 1: It blow my hand off, It don't affect nobody else.

2380
02:20:56,640 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 1: And and I got the right. I got the right

2381
02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:03,120
Speaker 1: to do whatever I want to do with what belonged

2382
02:21:03,160 --> 02:21:06,720
Speaker 1: to me. I can take my car and I can

2383
02:21:06,840 --> 02:21:10,600
Speaker 1: go into a neighborhood and do dough nuts and tad

2384
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:14,440
Speaker 1: up if I won't, if I ain't breaking no law, um,

2385
02:21:14,560 --> 02:21:17,240
Speaker 1: and they don't give me it's my car, ain't nobody

2386
02:21:17,520 --> 02:21:20,360
Speaker 1: you can't say nothing about it. So I don't see

2387
02:21:20,480 --> 02:21:23,280
Speaker 1: how you can say that, Oh, they're doing it because

2388
02:21:23,320 --> 02:21:25,920
Speaker 1: it's getting clicks, and that could be true. But what

2389
02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:28,800
Speaker 1: they got to do with you doing it right, I

2390
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:32,640
Speaker 1: can do that to myself if I want to self destruggle,

2391
02:21:32,760 --> 02:21:35,360
Speaker 1: I can self destruggle. Don't ain't nobody stopping me from

2392
02:21:35,400 --> 02:21:38,600
Speaker 1: going in the bathroom and and doing something to myself.

2393
02:21:39,000 --> 02:21:42,280
Speaker 1: You can't stop that because it's it's it's supposed to

2394
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:45,400
Speaker 1: be a free country. The problem is when you take

2395
02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:48,480
Speaker 1: me in the bathroom and then you you do something

2396
02:21:48,520 --> 02:21:50,720
Speaker 1: to me and now you're in trouble. You shouldn't have

2397
02:21:50,760 --> 02:21:54,680
Speaker 1: done that anything else. You know, there's a number of

2398
02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:56,520
Speaker 1: things I can do to me that if you do

2399
02:21:56,680 --> 02:21:59,920
Speaker 1: it to me, there'll be a problem. And I look

2400
02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:02,360
Speaker 1: get that the same way with this. Just because them

2401
02:22:02,480 --> 02:22:05,480
Speaker 1: young boys is this is each other in songs or

2402
02:22:06,200 --> 02:22:09,000
Speaker 1: or or doing this or that in songs. They don't

2403
02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:11,080
Speaker 1: give you free reins to say, well, they're doing it.

2404
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. Number one, you profit out of it,

2405
02:22:14,959 --> 02:22:19,440
Speaker 1: you get rich and more to Miami. They gotta deal

2406
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:23,440
Speaker 1: with them names they dropping in them records. They gotta

2407
02:22:23,560 --> 02:22:26,320
Speaker 1: deal with saying who do woo, I'm smoking such and

2408
02:22:26,440 --> 02:22:30,720
Speaker 1: such and such. It's killing steal happening about that. But

2409
02:22:30,920 --> 02:22:33,720
Speaker 1: you get to just chill. There's a difference. Bro. You

2410
02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:37,640
Speaker 1: can't just I can't let that be the narrative, you know,

2411
02:22:37,800 --> 02:22:40,400
Speaker 1: without any pushback. Now you want to have a conversation,

2412
02:22:40,520 --> 02:22:43,480
Speaker 1: Let's have that conversation because I can tell you what

2413
02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, and you tell me what you're thinking. Because

2414
02:22:46,400 --> 02:22:49,240
Speaker 1: in my brain it says, listen, there's no way that

2415
02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:52,320
Speaker 1: you can say that, Hey, they're doing it to themselves.

2416
02:22:52,600 --> 02:22:57,840
Speaker 1: So I done it, and that gives me free reins

2417
02:22:57,920 --> 02:23:00,840
Speaker 1: to do it. That if that's the reason you've done it,

2418
02:23:00,959 --> 02:23:04,400
Speaker 1: that's the reason you've done it. But the justification surrounding

2419
02:23:04,480 --> 02:23:08,360
Speaker 1: it is not warranted. That's not a good justification. There's

2420
02:23:08,400 --> 02:23:10,040
Speaker 1: a lot of things I can do to me that.

2421
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:12,840
Speaker 1: Once you do it, you've now committed a crime. You've

2422
02:23:12,879 --> 02:23:18,720
Speaker 1: broke the long you've overstepped your boundaries, personal boundaries, you understand.

2423
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:22,040
Speaker 1: So I don't see what you're saying in regards to

2424
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:26,560
Speaker 1: that little tech a rap about spinning blocks and sliding.

2425
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:30,320
Speaker 1: Nobody gonna really that's not gonna go up. But if Dirk,

2426
02:23:30,440 --> 02:23:32,320
Speaker 1: who just dropped a song like a couple of minutes ago,

2427
02:23:32,440 --> 02:23:35,120
Speaker 1: talking about a real situation, that went down with him.

2428
02:23:35,480 --> 02:23:37,560
Speaker 1: He put it in a song because he knows people

2429
02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:39,840
Speaker 1: know abody or listen, whether you want to know it

2430
02:23:39,959 --> 02:23:42,400
Speaker 1: or not. They know their fans be tuned in and

2431
02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:45,080
Speaker 1: they're providing the real content because that's what's gonna get

2432
02:23:45,160 --> 02:23:47,840
Speaker 1: the eyes, the ears, the attention of people. So when

2433
02:23:47,920 --> 02:23:50,480
Speaker 1: the media talks about it, don't make the media the

2434
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:53,040
Speaker 1: bad guy. It's it's kind of like it's almost like

2435
02:23:53,160 --> 02:23:55,160
Speaker 1: saying that if you dist in somebody, even if you

2436
02:23:55,240 --> 02:23:58,039
Speaker 1: put it in coded language, in lyrics and an all

2437
02:23:58,040 --> 02:24:01,959
Speaker 1: of a sudden, right, all right, ja, we ain't gonna

2438
02:24:01,959 --> 02:24:05,360
Speaker 1: do this tonight. Y'all tapped the light button. Come on,

2439
02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep talking. I meant that light

2440
02:24:10,160 --> 02:24:14,640
Speaker 1: button for me. Genius just explains it, and they're explaining

2441
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:18,000
Speaker 1: it with public need known shit because they deciphered it

2442
02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:21,760
Speaker 1: right or gave someone of an explanation. They're only your business.

2443
02:24:21,800 --> 02:24:25,640
Speaker 1: That's not true at all. So again, you number one,

2444
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:28,760
Speaker 1: with all due respect the rep genius. A lot of

2445
02:24:28,879 --> 02:24:33,520
Speaker 1: times they're wrong and we can prove that, all right,

2446
02:24:34,360 --> 02:24:37,440
Speaker 1: number one, And I think that's needed what they do.

2447
02:24:37,800 --> 02:24:40,800
Speaker 1: That's a great platform. If y'all ain't tapped and the

2448
02:24:40,879 --> 02:24:45,760
Speaker 1: Rep Genius go tap in. But Rep Genius a lot

2449
02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:51,040
Speaker 1: of times doesn't have a post to the neighborhood. You know,

2450
02:24:51,200 --> 02:24:53,400
Speaker 1: maybe they speak to someone at the label, they send

2451
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:55,720
Speaker 1: them some lyrics, or they sit someone down and listen

2452
02:24:55,800 --> 02:24:58,520
Speaker 1: to the song and write the lyrics down. But they're

2453
02:24:58,640 --> 02:25:02,920
Speaker 1: not solving cases. They rap genius. They're not putting if

2454
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:08,800
Speaker 1: somebody said if if Dirt putting his song, uh, you know,

2455
02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:11,480
Speaker 1: I put the ops to bed. They're not putting in

2456
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:15,720
Speaker 1: parentheses such and such. You know whoever named that you

2457
02:25:15,800 --> 02:25:18,560
Speaker 1: would insert there one of you media dudes, they're not

2458
02:25:18,760 --> 02:25:21,840
Speaker 1: doing that. They just saying what he's saying in the records,

2459
02:25:22,480 --> 02:25:26,040
Speaker 1: and nothing's wrong with with with that. What happens is

2460
02:25:26,360 --> 02:25:32,119
Speaker 1: with the media, they tend to gaslight situations. They tend

2461
02:25:32,200 --> 02:25:35,760
Speaker 1: to to to kind of solve crimes. A lot of times,

2462
02:25:35,840 --> 02:25:39,640
Speaker 1: like when when um Ah Peter triple legs when he died,

2463
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:43,360
Speaker 1: they put his whole situation on the wrong person. Let's

2464
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:47,360
Speaker 1: not forget that. They trade they chased the little dude,

2465
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:51,360
Speaker 1: soldiers whatever down hate him with the mass had people

2466
02:25:51,440 --> 02:25:56,880
Speaker 1: threatening him all online and it wasn't even him. So

2467
02:25:57,680 --> 02:26:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta remember all of the old things

2468
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:03,920
Speaker 1: we can't just consider the things that make us look

2469
02:26:03,959 --> 02:26:08,080
Speaker 1: like we right, I mean, um, I definitely you know,

2470
02:26:08,240 --> 02:26:12,119
Speaker 1: just to start out, I definitely am opposed to anybody

2471
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:16,720
Speaker 1: who says that, you know, number one academics is profited off,

2472
02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:20,600
Speaker 1: like you know, just the private business of people. I

2473
02:26:20,720 --> 02:26:24,080
Speaker 1: do what every media platform does, which is basically information

2474
02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:27,040
Speaker 1: at its public right. And you know I have all

2475
02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:29,600
Speaker 1: the resources and for certain stuff, you know, which you

2476
02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:32,360
Speaker 1: know I could use like if I really, if I

2477
02:26:32,440 --> 02:26:35,959
Speaker 1: really want to do investigative shit, I could. But in reality,

2478
02:26:36,040 --> 02:26:38,840
Speaker 1: I've never ever really went especially it came to the

2479
02:26:38,959 --> 02:26:43,199
Speaker 1: situations you're talking about. I've never ever broke no news

2480
02:26:43,320 --> 02:26:46,360
Speaker 1: that wasn't already regurgitated already, know you know what I

2481
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:48,320
Speaker 1: mean most of the times, if y'all look at when

2482
02:26:48,320 --> 02:26:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm posting some ship, where am I getting it from?

2483
02:26:52,760 --> 02:26:57,200
Speaker 1: A question? Can I ask you a question? So you

2484
02:26:57,360 --> 02:27:02,039
Speaker 1: said that real shit that's going on to insite clicks

2485
02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:04,680
Speaker 1: and like a clickbait basically right to run numbers up?

2486
02:27:06,320 --> 02:27:11,360
Speaker 1: Is that right? Um? He's exploiting it, yes, okay, um,

2487
02:27:11,920 --> 02:27:16,400
Speaker 1: but none of us are involved. So can we actually

2488
02:27:16,600 --> 02:27:20,520
Speaker 1: validate if what he's saying is real or not? Ye know.

2489
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:24,520
Speaker 1: See this, this is where the conversation goes left. No, no, no, no,

2490
02:27:24,680 --> 02:27:27,160
Speaker 1: this is what I like, how can we validate that?

2491
02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:30,720
Speaker 1: But but again that's why I said, the conversation goes

2492
02:27:30,800 --> 02:27:34,119
Speaker 1: into a real place of like it becomes nonsense, because

2493
02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:36,400
Speaker 1: are we gonna play stupid? Like come on now, like

2494
02:27:36,840 --> 02:27:39,960
Speaker 1: you you know when you first, Yeah, we're gonna play

2495
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:46,520
Speaker 1: stupid respectfully. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're playing stupid respectfully. If

2496
02:27:46,600 --> 02:27:51,000
Speaker 1: the casual fan three thousand miles away, right, sometimes you

2497
02:27:51,680 --> 02:27:53,680
Speaker 1: be having all the white fans who have never probably

2498
02:27:53,720 --> 02:27:55,200
Speaker 1: been to a hood, and they like they know who

2499
02:27:55,320 --> 02:27:57,440
Speaker 1: be the one? Who who this? And who they know

2500
02:27:58,040 --> 02:28:00,800
Speaker 1: what they referring to on lyrics. If that fan those

2501
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:02,520
Speaker 1: we could sit here and be like, oh, we don't

2502
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:04,920
Speaker 1: know what they're talking to. Come on now, is that

2503
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:07,040
Speaker 1: tell me? If that's the direction we're gonna go to

2504
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:09,080
Speaker 1: this conversation because I'm already know, I'm already know where

2505
02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:12,640
Speaker 1: you are. No, all right, all right, so all right,

2506
02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:17,080
Speaker 1: academic listen, Sometimes what I'm saying is playing stupid is

2507
02:28:17,720 --> 02:28:21,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of information you just said that you

2508
02:28:21,240 --> 02:28:24,200
Speaker 1: could be doing investigation work. I know you got stuff

2509
02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:27,280
Speaker 1: you know about six nine you ain't said like you

2510
02:28:27,440 --> 02:28:30,680
Speaker 1: play stupid with some stuff, right? You played like, uh

2511
02:28:31,440 --> 02:28:34,760
Speaker 1: not sure you've seen whack one hundred and wallow and

2512
02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:37,680
Speaker 1: giving them go at it with the playing stupid thing.

2513
02:28:38,320 --> 02:28:40,560
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, have you? Nine ain't saw it?

2514
02:28:41,080 --> 02:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Like certain things you do that with. That's what these

2515
02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:46,680
Speaker 1: people do in this space. So let's not act like

2516
02:28:46,840 --> 02:28:49,480
Speaker 1: that ain't a thing either. Now, So let's say the

2517
02:28:49,600 --> 02:28:53,640
Speaker 1: casual fan. But if we got to control the conversation,

2518
02:28:53,840 --> 02:28:56,640
Speaker 1: they found what makes academic comfortable for him to stay,

2519
02:28:56,879 --> 02:29:05,880
Speaker 1: then it's a real compation. Not gonna be disrespectful, but

2520
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:08,320
Speaker 1: if we're gonna have a real conversation, let's have it.

2521
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:12,080
Speaker 1: If were not directly involved, we can't validate what's real

2522
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:16,040
Speaker 1: or not somebody else's lyrics. We can't do that. So

2523
02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:19,120
Speaker 1: for us to say like we literally protesting that is

2524
02:29:19,160 --> 02:29:24,520
Speaker 1: real and valid and were not involved, that's found ask

2525
02:29:24,560 --> 02:29:26,519
Speaker 1: you a direct question. That's what I'm talking abou accountability.

2526
02:29:26,680 --> 02:29:29,080
Speaker 1: All right, So Dirk dropped the song, should have dugged

2527
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:31,600
Speaker 1: the arrested a bunch of niggas who used to be

2528
02:29:31,640 --> 02:29:34,440
Speaker 1: around him or or we're around him yesterday for that

2529
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:37,119
Speaker 1: nigga's murder do you think that the media now say,

2530
02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:39,160
Speaker 1: whoa two plus two is four? Do you think that

2531
02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:42,320
Speaker 1: you think that, oh nobody knew by that? You tell me,

2532
02:29:42,959 --> 02:29:48,440
Speaker 1: we have the real conversation, right, the media outlet now

2533
02:29:48,560 --> 02:29:51,920
Speaker 1: connects to be like whoa blah blah blah. You're saying

2534
02:29:51,959 --> 02:29:54,400
Speaker 1: that we don't know, like because we ain't really blah blah,

2535
02:29:54,440 --> 02:29:57,640
Speaker 1: we don't know who's talking about what I'm saying. There's

2536
02:29:57,720 --> 02:30:02,120
Speaker 1: times you clearly see, like for example, yesterday you get

2537
02:30:02,200 --> 02:30:06,240
Speaker 1: to see at least based on the fucking indictment that

2538
02:30:06,360 --> 02:30:09,800
Speaker 1: came down from the FATS, Right, not all of them

2539
02:30:09,879 --> 02:30:13,280
Speaker 1: lyrics was just coincidence. It probably was something to it.

2540
02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:16,440
Speaker 1: There was probably an issue there. So now when the

2541
02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:21,480
Speaker 1: media then either brings it up, is the media inciting

2542
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:25,280
Speaker 1: or they're actually just reporting and actually going off what

2543
02:30:25,440 --> 02:30:32,960
Speaker 1: seems to be factual. You can't something can't see how

2544
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:36,800
Speaker 1: you see these dudes are professionals. You said all of

2545
02:30:36,879 --> 02:30:39,720
Speaker 1: that and then says something seems to be factual. You

2546
02:30:39,840 --> 02:30:43,760
Speaker 1: can't seem to be factual. That ain't how they work.

2547
02:30:44,280 --> 02:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Facts is facts, ain't no scene to be factual? Is

2548
02:30:47,840 --> 02:30:52,760
Speaker 1: in fact? The media. The media has a responsibility to

2549
02:30:52,959 --> 02:30:56,720
Speaker 1: report facts now a blogger can just report that opinion,

2550
02:30:57,000 --> 02:30:59,560
Speaker 1: but if you're going to accept the responsibility of represent

2551
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:06,440
Speaker 1: this media fact, because I don't really understand why Dirk

2552
02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:09,520
Speaker 1: was even ever mentioned in the video that you posted

2553
02:31:09,640 --> 02:31:12,720
Speaker 1: regarding people being indicted bad as fairs were all blocked

2554
02:31:12,760 --> 02:31:15,160
Speaker 1: because he wasn't in the paperwork and he didn't get

2555
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:23,960
Speaker 1: arrested and mentioning him. Okay, I'm glad you said that, right,

2556
02:31:24,040 --> 02:31:26,480
Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta add a context. Like, first

2557
02:31:26,520 --> 02:31:31,480
Speaker 1: of all, you know, the regular casual rap fan, and

2558
02:31:31,600 --> 02:31:33,680
Speaker 1: I've seen his you know, even his stature going up

2559
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:35,080
Speaker 1: in the last couple of months he signed to deal

2560
02:31:35,120 --> 02:31:37,760
Speaker 1: with Empire. Mua Muhap is someone who was around, at

2561
02:31:37,800 --> 02:31:39,760
Speaker 1: least from what I know he was around. He got

2562
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:43,320
Speaker 1: a deal because of King Von King Vaughan obviously was

2563
02:31:43,360 --> 02:31:46,160
Speaker 1: an artist that Dirk helped, Dirk help help put on.

2564
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Then we have again you're making it the way the

2565
02:31:50,600 --> 02:31:54,080
Speaker 1: way you're acting with this blissful ignorance is almost making

2566
02:31:54,120 --> 02:31:57,040
Speaker 1: it seem like I'm some like yo, like I'm doing

2567
02:31:57,080 --> 02:32:03,160
Speaker 1: like some crazy math. But it's speculation that the last

2568
02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:05,920
Speaker 1: couple of on tour, Moowap was there. Like so again,

2569
02:32:05,959 --> 02:32:08,840
Speaker 1: when I'm trying to explain to an audience. Nobody said

2570
02:32:08,879 --> 02:32:12,440
Speaker 1: Dirt didn't did anything. But if you think, just like

2571
02:32:12,640 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 1: if if somebody hangs around, um, you might not have

2572
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:18,000
Speaker 1: to have like an official type. But if you hang

2573
02:32:18,040 --> 02:32:20,480
Speaker 1: around or you're rolling around with a particular artist, when

2574
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:22,640
Speaker 1: the media reports that, I don't know, you get into whatever,

2575
02:32:22,640 --> 02:32:24,640
Speaker 1: they might be like, oh, this is an affiliated blah blah.

2576
02:32:24,720 --> 02:32:27,520
Speaker 1: Haven't we seen that many times? Is that incorrect to say?

2577
02:32:28,480 --> 02:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Is that like now getting into people's business or is

2578
02:32:30,640 --> 02:32:34,560
Speaker 1: that factual reporting? So someone who clearly and by the way,

2579
02:32:34,600 --> 02:32:37,640
Speaker 1: gold looking on YouTube, there's hundreds of videos. Go look

2580
02:32:37,680 --> 02:32:42,400
Speaker 1: at Dirk's like all Dirk's performances from the last like year,

2581
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:46,119
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot on stage. Moonwap is there

2582
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:48,720
Speaker 1: with them. That's the dude who got in dieted for

2583
02:32:48,879 --> 02:32:55,119
Speaker 1: another another artist in Chicago's death. Nobody mentioned to say

2584
02:32:55,240 --> 02:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Dirt did nothing right. But who is the guy moowap.

2585
02:32:58,560 --> 02:33:02,720
Speaker 1: It's just simply association because choot me too. Maybe more

2586
02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:06,720
Speaker 1: people know um f BG duck than um um the

2587
02:33:06,840 --> 02:33:10,360
Speaker 1: individual want. But again it's just saying yo hero with Dirk,

2588
02:33:10,400 --> 02:33:13,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't think that's like, you know, really, oh,

2589
02:33:13,480 --> 02:33:15,840
Speaker 1: you're speculating. Why do you have to bring this? It

2590
02:33:15,879 --> 02:33:20,119
Speaker 1: would be different if I was like, oh, sending clear hints,

2591
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:23,240
Speaker 1: making assumptions like oh, Dirk, it is my No. These

2592
02:33:23,280 --> 02:33:25,800
Speaker 1: are people who just have been associated with with Dirk.

2593
02:33:26,520 --> 02:33:30,080
Speaker 1: That's how the general public, at least in the in

2594
02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:36,199
Speaker 1: a hip hop federal you know who mowap is understandable,

2595
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:39,720
Speaker 1: but academic you were further than just creating an association.

2596
02:33:40,560 --> 02:33:44,000
Speaker 1: You You also was sure to include that Dirk lyrics

2597
02:33:44,200 --> 02:33:47,200
Speaker 1: was reflective of what's actually happening in Old Block right now,

2598
02:33:47,560 --> 02:33:50,800
Speaker 1: even though oh, Dirk didn't get or arrested, Like so,

2599
02:33:50,920 --> 02:33:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm not understanding why what they going through is a

2600
02:33:53,560 --> 02:33:57,600
Speaker 1: reflective of what Dirk rapping about. They disassociated, but it's

2601
02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:00,480
Speaker 1: like you turning me in together. That's not that's going

2602
02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:03,880
Speaker 1: a step further than just yeah, they hang out. It's

2603
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:07,920
Speaker 1: going further than that. I don't think I'm tying them

2604
02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:10,280
Speaker 1: to anything when I just point out the simple fact

2605
02:34:10,360 --> 02:34:13,280
Speaker 1: which I just like, again, I am all the way

2606
02:34:13,360 --> 02:34:16,400
Speaker 1: down with just sitting here and doing the bliss nurse.

2607
02:34:20,840 --> 02:34:24,960
Speaker 1: If dirt been dirt been, don't duck for a minute,

2608
02:34:25,680 --> 02:34:27,920
Speaker 1: like if that is like, oh my god, I cracked

2609
02:34:27,959 --> 02:34:30,080
Speaker 1: some code. Well, god damn it. I'm must be the best.

2610
02:34:30,320 --> 02:34:33,320
Speaker 1: I must be the best Internet detective ever. You know

2611
02:34:33,360 --> 02:34:37,760
Speaker 1: what I mean by the way, my bad, I mean

2612
02:34:37,800 --> 02:34:41,120
Speaker 1: to cut you off. Um. The reason why I also

2613
02:34:41,240 --> 02:34:44,160
Speaker 1: brought that up because when you know, it's also to

2614
02:34:44,240 --> 02:34:46,600
Speaker 1: give context, right, because really, and I would know if

2615
02:34:46,600 --> 02:34:49,480
Speaker 1: I necessarily like, like you know, um spelled it out

2616
02:34:49,520 --> 02:34:52,080
Speaker 1: in that in that particular video. But it was really

2617
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:54,240
Speaker 1: to say that, you know, when it comes to accountability,

2618
02:34:54,600 --> 02:34:56,480
Speaker 1: when academics is in this room, you'll be like, yo,

2619
02:34:56,520 --> 02:34:59,200
Speaker 1: accurate sighting this, you're doing this. Nobody ever blamed the

2620
02:34:59,200 --> 02:35:01,600
Speaker 1: people who alleged pull a trigger. I've never heard somebody

2621
02:35:01,600 --> 02:35:03,640
Speaker 1: said yo, if he did that, shit, man, I can't

2622
02:35:03,720 --> 02:35:05,120
Speaker 1: rock with him no more. I can't say I've never

2623
02:35:05,200 --> 02:35:08,920
Speaker 1: heard that every Okay, But beyond that, it's like when

2624
02:35:08,959 --> 02:35:10,960
Speaker 1: you listen to you know, and I don't know if

2625
02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:13,000
Speaker 1: y'all take time like you know, because as you said,

2626
02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:14,720
Speaker 1: I should be doing my homework, and I'm in the media,

2627
02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:16,640
Speaker 1: I do so when I number one, I gotta read.

2628
02:35:16,760 --> 02:35:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make an effort to read every page of

2629
02:35:19,879 --> 02:35:22,600
Speaker 1: every indictment. Listened to what the FBI said how they

2630
02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:25,320
Speaker 1: saw this whatever, and you know what they said, we

2631
02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:30,080
Speaker 1: literally got this, We got the information from this music.

2632
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:33,800
Speaker 1: That's they just all right, we got one hundred and

2633
02:35:33,840 --> 02:35:35,760
Speaker 1: fifty people and they hit the light button. I don't

2634
02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:38,240
Speaker 1: want to keep stopping and talking and ship hit the

2635
02:35:38,360 --> 02:35:42,879
Speaker 1: light button, say we got it from academics. The guys

2636
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:45,840
Speaker 1: who are involved with this are telling us who they

2637
02:35:45,920 --> 02:35:49,680
Speaker 1: don't like, who they're gonna do a revenge act of

2638
02:35:49,800 --> 02:35:54,000
Speaker 1: violence against. They're literally spelling it out for us, and

2639
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:56,400
Speaker 1: you know what we do. We go to the difference

2640
02:35:56,600 --> 02:36:00,520
Speaker 1: in that would be that's their job. Unless you're saying

2641
02:36:00,640 --> 02:36:08,240
Speaker 1: that our own media's job is to implicate our own

2642
02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:14,920
Speaker 1: in criminal activity and co sign the destruction of the neighborhood.

2643
02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the cargo Droom music, I didn't say that.

2644
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:22,279
Speaker 1: The guys sit up on a podium with an FBI

2645
02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:25,800
Speaker 1: big logo while he's over here basketball. That's what we

2646
02:36:25,920 --> 02:36:29,480
Speaker 1: expect from him with the in him making the rest

2647
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:32,880
Speaker 1: and he's saying that that listen, he's getting from the music.

2648
02:36:32,959 --> 02:36:35,320
Speaker 1: So again you might say, oh, I don't know what

2649
02:36:35,400 --> 02:36:39,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about. The FBI clearly does. They literally said it.

2650
02:36:39,320 --> 02:36:42,840
Speaker 1: The FBI is making a case to the judge. Our

2651
02:36:42,959 --> 02:36:45,440
Speaker 1: media shouldn't be making the case to the judge. People

2652
02:36:45,520 --> 02:36:47,480
Speaker 1: love to say, hey, yo, the FBI said they're getting

2653
02:36:47,520 --> 02:36:50,240
Speaker 1: all the information from the music. Of course they're saying

2654
02:36:50,320 --> 02:36:52,320
Speaker 1: that they're making a case to the judge to lock

2655
02:36:52,400 --> 02:36:55,400
Speaker 1: people up. We don't expect the same behavior from one

2656
02:36:55,440 --> 02:36:59,360
Speaker 1: of our media people. Right My girlfriends shouldn't act like

2657
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:02,000
Speaker 1: someone and that I just walk that I just meet

2658
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:05,400
Speaker 1: down the street. I expect different things from them, right, So,

2659
02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:08,960
Speaker 1: our media, we don't expect you to implicate people in

2660
02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:13,880
Speaker 1: crimes that can further the strength of what the government

2661
02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:17,200
Speaker 1: is saying. And that goes for media period. I don't

2662
02:37:17,240 --> 02:37:21,000
Speaker 1: implicate people in crimes. We don't do that right now.

2663
02:37:21,120 --> 02:37:24,240
Speaker 1: Speaking now, if Dirk would have came out and said

2664
02:37:24,320 --> 02:37:26,840
Speaker 1: something like yo, all my homies just when fed I'm

2665
02:37:26,879 --> 02:37:29,360
Speaker 1: big general, which I don't think he would have done that,

2666
02:37:29,800 --> 02:37:33,680
Speaker 1: then repurposing that would be a thing. But to put

2667
02:37:33,760 --> 02:37:37,760
Speaker 1: things together that I'm not trying to represent myself as

2668
02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:40,320
Speaker 1: you tell me what that's about. I expect that from

2669
02:37:40,360 --> 02:37:43,520
Speaker 1: the federal government. As people say they have a badge,

2670
02:37:43,840 --> 02:37:47,000
Speaker 1: they have an agenda right to uphold the law and

2671
02:37:47,320 --> 02:37:50,119
Speaker 1: try to take people to jail and prove the case.

2672
02:37:50,600 --> 02:37:54,000
Speaker 1: So we expect them to say something. We just don't

2673
02:37:54,040 --> 02:37:56,640
Speaker 1: expect our media to be involved with those things. In

2674
02:37:56,800 --> 02:38:03,320
Speaker 1: my opinion, got it from the music. So again, when

2675
02:38:03,480 --> 02:38:07,520
Speaker 1: when that context is covered that, yes, like, I'm not

2676
02:38:07,680 --> 02:38:10,560
Speaker 1: breaking down nothing that ain't publicly available to These ain't

2677
02:38:10,600 --> 02:38:14,920
Speaker 1: songs I'm leaking. There's songs that that even in the

2678
02:38:15,120 --> 02:38:20,400
Speaker 1: title it basically is playing is playing around or poking

2679
02:38:20,440 --> 02:38:25,160
Speaker 1: fun at other people. I mean, before before you go,

2680
02:38:25,480 --> 02:38:28,080
Speaker 1: before you go, right, And I wanted to access earlier.

2681
02:38:28,160 --> 02:38:31,440
Speaker 1: So I understand you're reporting on things that you say

2682
02:38:31,720 --> 02:38:33,840
Speaker 1: or may or may not be public knowledge, right, I'm

2683
02:38:33,879 --> 02:38:37,200
Speaker 1: just leaving it in the air, right, So when you

2684
02:38:37,320 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 1: do report these things and you do kind of connect things,

2685
02:38:40,360 --> 02:38:44,080
Speaker 1: you don't feel like that may be helping the outsiders

2686
02:38:44,120 --> 02:38:46,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more when you do connect certain things

2687
02:38:46,600 --> 02:38:53,640
Speaker 1: or put things with other things. Yo, I'll give a

2688
02:38:53,720 --> 02:38:55,120
Speaker 1: quick answer to that, because I know, I know I

2689
02:38:55,160 --> 02:38:58,680
Speaker 1: could get long wounded. Um No, I really don't think

2690
02:38:58,920 --> 02:39:03,400
Speaker 1: the level of me breaking down or analyzing or even

2691
02:39:03,480 --> 02:39:07,640
Speaker 1: reporting is ever bringing no new information to light. Like

2692
02:39:07,720 --> 02:39:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like you know, and I don't want

2693
02:39:09,200 --> 02:39:12,000
Speaker 1: to put this other individual you know, in the cross

2694
02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:16,280
Speaker 1: fired and then like that, like man as much flack

2695
02:39:16,360 --> 02:39:19,720
Speaker 1: as people have like given me for you know, one

2696
02:39:19,720 --> 02:39:21,240
Speaker 1: of the first time I came on a clubhouse, they

2697
02:39:21,360 --> 02:39:24,440
Speaker 1: basically like attributed the entire crimry to me. You know, Ak,

2698
02:39:24,480 --> 02:39:26,600
Speaker 1: you did this, You get nigga's nicknames, you incite everything.

2699
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:28,240
Speaker 1: You got these little kids that they got to kill

2700
02:39:28,280 --> 02:39:32,440
Speaker 1: niggas to get on your page. And the funny part

2701
02:39:32,480 --> 02:39:34,760
Speaker 1: about it was like, you know, honestly, like I didn't.

2702
02:39:35,240 --> 02:39:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm still learning this year. Who's really still into it

2703
02:39:38,440 --> 02:39:40,320
Speaker 1: or who's into it with you? Like I don't really,

2704
02:39:40,400 --> 02:39:42,760
Speaker 1: I've never been. I never claimed to be an expert

2705
02:39:42,800 --> 02:39:44,480
Speaker 1: on this, you know. I mean sometimes I'm finding stuff out,

2706
02:39:45,000 --> 02:39:47,880
Speaker 1: like there's other channels that are on YouTube that they

2707
02:39:48,120 --> 02:39:50,640
Speaker 1: they've got this ship down to a science, you get me.

2708
02:39:50,760 --> 02:39:54,800
Speaker 1: Like again, I've never went that far. I've only covered Okay,

2709
02:39:54,840 --> 02:39:58,560
Speaker 1: all right, somebody passed away the policeman and arrest. Okay,

2710
02:39:58,760 --> 02:40:00,600
Speaker 1: let's just talk about what the police have it. I'm

2711
02:40:00,600 --> 02:40:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna give it some context to it. But it's never

2712
02:40:02,600 --> 02:40:05,080
Speaker 1: like okay, cool, you know, And obviously sometimes I might

2713
02:40:05,120 --> 02:40:07,000
Speaker 1: be like whoa like for example, it could be whatever.

2714
02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, um, and I'm just using this this

2715
02:40:10,600 --> 02:40:13,320
Speaker 1: particular situation. I'm like, well, in the which is, by

2716
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:17,000
Speaker 1: the way, it's completely on four K surveillance camera, like

2717
02:40:17,080 --> 02:40:20,680
Speaker 1: the whole little Tim King Juan thing. The nature of

2718
02:40:20,760 --> 02:40:22,760
Speaker 1: my breakdown when it comes to that is not provided

2719
02:40:22,840 --> 02:40:26,760
Speaker 1: nothing new. It's more of saying, okay, let's let's let's

2720
02:40:26,800 --> 02:40:28,600
Speaker 1: have a discussion. Or even when I'm doing a video,

2721
02:40:28,600 --> 02:40:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm kind of having a discussion with myself, I'm like, well,

2722
02:40:31,040 --> 02:40:33,360
Speaker 1: I think this guy might he might try to go

2723
02:40:33,560 --> 02:40:37,680
Speaker 1: for self defense. That's that's self explanatory. Like come on now,

2724
02:40:37,879 --> 02:40:42,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not breaking no fucking news, Like yo, hold on,

2725
02:40:43,120 --> 02:40:46,320
Speaker 1: hold on, I need to speak. You act, you finish that. Yeah,

2726
02:40:46,360 --> 02:40:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm done. I look, I wanted to say something, right,

2727
02:40:49,480 --> 02:40:52,720
Speaker 1: so I want Oreo to speak, but I want to

2728
02:40:52,760 --> 02:40:57,480
Speaker 1: say something so before you came in a room, this

2729
02:40:57,720 --> 02:41:03,720
Speaker 1: is me, right. I was told um, as a public figure,

2730
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:11,720
Speaker 1: as a media outlet, as a personality, because of your following,

2731
02:41:12,560 --> 02:41:15,280
Speaker 1: and this is not just to you, this is in general.

2732
02:41:16,280 --> 02:41:25,160
Speaker 1: You can't have an opinion on artist's music because of

2733
02:41:25,400 --> 02:41:28,320
Speaker 1: Jim Jones, because he is a statement with Jim Jones

2734
02:41:28,520 --> 02:41:31,320
Speaker 1: and Man not having an album. It was said that

2735
02:41:31,440 --> 02:41:37,360
Speaker 1: you can't have a public opinion on music because you

2736
02:41:37,600 --> 02:41:41,880
Speaker 1: have a file. That's not what we said. What was

2737
02:41:41,959 --> 02:41:46,560
Speaker 1: said was is how he delivered it. Let me speak, Please,

2738
02:41:51,080 --> 02:41:57,280
Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? Well, I mean, are

2739
02:41:57,360 --> 02:42:01,640
Speaker 1: you staying because we have a platform or because I'm

2740
02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:04,000
Speaker 1: in the media can't have Nah, I don't, I don't.

2741
02:42:04,040 --> 02:42:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't obviously that's bs you know what I mean again,

2742
02:42:06,400 --> 02:42:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, I just go back to what I said

2743
02:42:07,800 --> 02:42:10,879
Speaker 1: about you know, by the way, these artists, I mentioned them,

2744
02:42:11,160 --> 02:42:12,920
Speaker 1: not mentioned them because I don't like them. I enjoy

2745
02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:15,760
Speaker 1: the music very thoroughly, whether I'll come from those backgrounds

2746
02:42:15,840 --> 02:42:19,480
Speaker 1: or not. I'm like there is and and it's a

2747
02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:21,000
Speaker 1: double that sword. And that's why I like, you know,

2748
02:42:21,080 --> 02:42:24,480
Speaker 1: when I when I ever came to clubhouse to have

2749
02:42:24,720 --> 02:42:29,720
Speaker 1: real conversation, it's about the hypocrisy we all share because

2750
02:42:29,800 --> 02:42:34,080
Speaker 1: truth be told. If somebody's for the persons who are saying, well,

2751
02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:36,120
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on. If a nigga is

2752
02:42:36,120 --> 02:42:37,880
Speaker 1: talking that faith shit, you don't want to hear it,

2753
02:42:38,320 --> 02:42:40,960
Speaker 1: just like most of y'all, right, I don't know. Maybe

2754
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:42,680
Speaker 1: in this room or now y'all wouldn't want to hear

2755
02:42:42,760 --> 02:42:45,560
Speaker 1: six nine talk about no gangster shit no more, because

2756
02:42:45,560 --> 02:42:48,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna say he's a rat right now. The thing

2757
02:42:48,959 --> 02:42:52,640
Speaker 1: is authenticity. It matters, right And when you look at um,

2758
02:42:53,120 --> 02:42:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, some of these artists like they know it matters,

2759
02:42:55,920 --> 02:42:58,520
Speaker 1: and that's why sometimes I think they take the risk

2760
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:01,760
Speaker 1: by putting you know, how many artists got beef that

2761
02:43:01,879 --> 02:43:04,720
Speaker 1: you're not rapping about? Like I talked to a lot

2762
02:43:04,760 --> 02:43:08,400
Speaker 1: of artists who don't put their actual beats in music.

2763
02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:13,240
Speaker 1: They don't do it, but some do. Now, when you

2764
02:43:13,400 --> 02:43:18,840
Speaker 1: do that, you're bringing extra visibility of tens of millions

2765
02:43:18,879 --> 02:43:20,680
Speaker 1: of fans, which, by the way, is probably gonna turn

2766
02:43:20,680 --> 02:43:23,400
Speaker 1: into streams. So yes, you are getting some kickbacks of

2767
02:43:23,440 --> 02:43:26,080
Speaker 1: money to center, you're getting hot, but it's gonna get

2768
02:43:26,080 --> 02:43:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot of attention from fans. It's you can't have

2769
02:43:30,920 --> 02:43:33,480
Speaker 1: it both ways. So it's one of those things where

2770
02:43:33,520 --> 02:43:37,400
Speaker 1: like when you share that information now people are gonna

2771
02:43:37,400 --> 02:43:41,959
Speaker 1: want to know more. A lot of these dimentary pages

2772
02:43:41,959 --> 02:43:43,880
Speaker 1: popping up on YouTube. You don't why niggas just going

2773
02:43:43,959 --> 02:43:46,879
Speaker 1: to going to Google Like a's like almost like five

2774
02:43:46,959 --> 02:43:49,200
Speaker 1: ten tennion views. There's a few documentaries. I've seen a

2775
02:43:49,280 --> 02:43:51,480
Speaker 1: bunch of people dub I've kind of watched a couple

2776
02:43:51,480 --> 02:43:55,800
Speaker 1: of them on on on on Jackson Jacksonville beaks among

2777
02:43:55,879 --> 02:43:59,400
Speaker 1: rappers before before Young and Ages dropped, who Got Smoke?

2778
02:43:59,480 --> 02:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I never even knew that was going on, but he

2779
02:44:01,600 --> 02:44:04,080
Speaker 1: put it out in music. He put it out this

2780
02:44:04,320 --> 02:44:08,320
Speaker 1: in actual deceased people. And another nigga who's in this

2781
02:44:08,440 --> 02:44:12,680
Speaker 1: city responding, Now you have the whole world who Okay,

2782
02:44:12,720 --> 02:44:14,400
Speaker 1: the song might be cool or whatever, but they're not

2783
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:16,760
Speaker 1: gonna just stop. As someone was saying, well, we don't

2784
02:44:16,760 --> 02:44:19,160
Speaker 1: know what's going on it maybe it's sure, maybe no,

2785
02:44:19,520 --> 02:44:21,600
Speaker 1: they now want to know more about it. So now

2786
02:44:21,680 --> 02:44:24,680
Speaker 1: they're go on YouTube, they're they're again it's fans. It

2787
02:44:24,840 --> 02:44:27,880
Speaker 1: all feeds the same cycle of why people fuck with

2788
02:44:27,959 --> 02:44:31,000
Speaker 1: certain artists. You're usually gonna hear it, especially when they

2789
02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:32,720
Speaker 1: come to like certain type of music. People gonna be like,

2790
02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:35,600
Speaker 1: y'all funk with that artist because yo, he real, Yeah,

2791
02:44:35,640 --> 02:44:38,920
Speaker 1: I feel like he's actually whatever he says, he's actually living,

2792
02:44:39,280 --> 02:44:41,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So again, it's unreasonable to

2793
02:44:41,800 --> 02:44:46,240
Speaker 1: say people could consume it, you could exploit those things

2794
02:44:46,320 --> 02:44:48,760
Speaker 1: going on around you. But nobody can have an opinion

2795
02:44:48,840 --> 02:44:51,400
Speaker 1: on it, and then everybody has to watch out to

2796
02:44:51,520 --> 02:44:55,000
Speaker 1: make sure, hey, you don't get in trouble for what

2797
02:44:55,320 --> 02:44:58,000
Speaker 1: you have chose to put out on a record, which,

2798
02:44:58,080 --> 02:45:00,160
Speaker 1: by the way, we're not talking about you know, and

2799
02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:02,880
Speaker 1: even you know, going back to like when whenever I

2800
02:45:02,959 --> 02:45:04,240
Speaker 1: did come in and I had and I took a

2801
02:45:04,280 --> 02:45:06,760
Speaker 1: lot of accountability for the like you know, the Warre

2802
02:45:06,840 --> 02:45:09,040
Speaker 1: shot rack. Definitely certain aspects, definitely the way I went

2803
02:45:09,080 --> 02:45:14,680
Speaker 1: about it. But you know, um, that's a very different

2804
02:45:14,720 --> 02:45:17,800
Speaker 1: time than now. We're talking about niggas who are signed

2805
02:45:17,800 --> 02:45:21,920
Speaker 1: to labels worth billions of dollars with with with with

2806
02:45:22,280 --> 02:45:26,800
Speaker 1: with record Um, with album budgets of millions of dollars,

2807
02:45:27,480 --> 02:45:31,680
Speaker 1: going into studios, flying private jets, and they're talking about beats.

2808
02:45:32,480 --> 02:45:35,280
Speaker 1: This isn't like some kid who he ain't know, like

2809
02:45:35,400 --> 02:45:38,000
Speaker 1: he just got into some with some nigga across town

2810
02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:39,440
Speaker 1: and he don't know how to express himself, so he

2811
02:45:39,520 --> 02:45:41,920
Speaker 1: made some song and it kind of blew up. And

2812
02:45:42,040 --> 02:45:45,640
Speaker 1: then now everybody's using that to kind of be like, well,

2813
02:45:45,640 --> 02:45:48,800
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, Like these are people who they

2814
02:45:48,920 --> 02:45:52,040
Speaker 1: know they gotta keep shit up, they gotta get people talking,

2815
02:45:52,760 --> 02:45:54,720
Speaker 1: and they're saying, what am I going to do in

2816
02:45:54,879 --> 02:45:58,200
Speaker 1: terms of music to get people talking. I'm gonna go

2817
02:45:58,400 --> 02:46:00,720
Speaker 1: this the niggas in my city who people know. I've

2818
02:46:00,760 --> 02:46:03,600
Speaker 1: been be through it. And again to the young lady

2819
02:46:03,600 --> 02:46:06,960
Speaker 1: who said we don't know who before who trust me?

2820
02:46:07,160 --> 02:46:09,119
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't know, but I guarantee I could pick

2821
02:46:09,160 --> 02:46:11,320
Speaker 1: a white kid with a bowl cut out of Montana

2822
02:46:11,560 --> 02:46:14,080
Speaker 1: and I could ask him name five ops ups sowing

2823
02:46:14,160 --> 02:46:21,800
Speaker 1: so rapper and they'll name it no problem. So, academics,

2824
02:46:21,920 --> 02:46:24,280
Speaker 1: was that the motivation behind you mentioned in Dirk in

2825
02:46:24,320 --> 02:46:27,360
Speaker 1: the video? Was you trying to like, was you trying

2826
02:46:27,360 --> 02:46:29,600
Speaker 1: to get a share of responsibility because you feel like

2827
02:46:29,680 --> 02:46:32,160
Speaker 1: everybody look at you and not him because he not

2828
02:46:32,320 --> 02:46:34,879
Speaker 1: the only rapper that made this song is about Duck,

2829
02:46:35,600 --> 02:46:38,440
Speaker 1: but he was the only one that you mentioned. Well

2830
02:46:39,360 --> 02:46:42,440
Speaker 1: it was because of you know, it was clear association,

2831
02:46:42,600 --> 02:46:45,480
Speaker 1: like you know, like you know, he's been on his Instagram,

2832
02:46:45,600 --> 02:46:48,200
Speaker 1: He's he was at most of his shows. He's been

2833
02:46:48,280 --> 02:46:50,720
Speaker 1: rolling around with him. And again that's not no secret,

2834
02:46:50,800 --> 02:46:52,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because people see it like shit,

2835
02:46:52,760 --> 02:46:55,240
Speaker 1: I'll be on MOOI page. I'd always be seeing posted

2836
02:46:55,320 --> 02:46:58,080
Speaker 1: like I'd be on YouTube watching Dirk's performances, like I

2837
02:46:58,200 --> 02:47:01,440
Speaker 1: always be looking like said, being a back turn every

2838
02:47:01,480 --> 02:47:04,000
Speaker 1: time Von songs come on or Vine tribute songs, you know,

2839
02:47:04,120 --> 02:47:06,040
Speaker 1: like you know, um, I'm Dirk to performance, so like

2840
02:47:06,040 --> 02:47:08,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people knew. But but but you're right,

2841
02:47:08,400 --> 02:47:11,920
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not just just um Dirk. You know.

2842
02:47:12,000 --> 02:47:14,080
Speaker 1: I love Dirk like like like a boy with me

2843
02:47:14,160 --> 02:47:17,080
Speaker 1: and Dirk, even personally, We've always had a really good relationship.

2844
02:47:18,120 --> 02:47:20,440
Speaker 1: I guess I say it because like a lot of times,

2845
02:47:20,480 --> 02:47:25,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to these discussions, we really don't factor

2846
02:47:25,400 --> 02:47:28,720
Speaker 1: in everything, even when it comes to artists, you know

2847
02:47:28,760 --> 02:47:32,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. Again, these artists are far removed from

2848
02:47:32,200 --> 02:47:36,440
Speaker 1: like twenty twelve, where it was just chaotic and trying

2849
02:47:36,440 --> 02:47:40,160
Speaker 1: to make These are established veterans in the game with

2850
02:47:40,560 --> 02:47:44,920
Speaker 1: huge budgets who are going into studios and they are

2851
02:47:45,120 --> 02:47:49,800
Speaker 1: willfully and cognitively making making those decisions to say, I'm

2852
02:47:49,879 --> 02:47:53,360
Speaker 1: by to make music that is gonna be promoted by

2853
02:47:53,440 --> 02:47:57,480
Speaker 1: a billionaire a billion dollar company to promote more genocide.

2854
02:47:58,320 --> 02:48:03,120
Speaker 1: You get me. And because of that, I like a

2855
02:48:03,200 --> 02:48:05,680
Speaker 1: day like yesterday. I'm not happy, but it is we

2856
02:48:05,800 --> 02:48:08,960
Speaker 1: have to hold the mirror up. Sometimes we got a

2857
02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:12,279
Speaker 1: hook the mirror up, because if we're gonna have a conversation,

2858
02:48:12,560 --> 02:48:15,119
Speaker 1: I'm always down for the conversation. Let's have the real conversation.

2859
02:48:15,560 --> 02:48:17,480
Speaker 1: So if if the real you know what you know,

2860
02:48:17,959 --> 02:48:21,520
Speaker 1: the real conversation probably is your act. Well, when you

2861
02:48:21,600 --> 02:48:23,360
Speaker 1: did a Warrns shot rack, the way you approached it

2862
02:48:23,400 --> 02:48:25,680
Speaker 1: here blah blah blah, look at who you are, Okay, cool,

2863
02:48:25,800 --> 02:48:28,240
Speaker 1: there's accountability to be held that way. You know. I tried,

2864
02:48:28,320 --> 02:48:32,680
Speaker 1: of course, um change shit. I haven't done the warr show,

2865
02:48:32,800 --> 02:48:35,520
Speaker 1: I believe four or five probably six years, you know,

2866
02:48:36,120 --> 02:48:40,840
Speaker 1: And I and I've given you know, um critiques to

2867
02:48:41,200 --> 02:48:44,199
Speaker 1: myself on how I could have either done that better

2868
02:48:44,400 --> 02:48:49,760
Speaker 1: or not be as dismissive and maybe as you know,

2869
02:48:50,160 --> 02:48:52,240
Speaker 1: whatever effects you might think it as, which I just

2870
02:48:52,360 --> 02:48:54,360
Speaker 1: personally just don't think it's murdered. But but you know,

2871
02:48:54,480 --> 02:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say there was no effects. Um, I

2872
02:48:57,640 --> 02:49:02,560
Speaker 1: could critique myself. The problem starts where everybody says, great,

2873
02:49:02,840 --> 02:49:06,720
Speaker 1: we got the scapegoat end of discussion, like you know,

2874
02:49:06,959 --> 02:49:09,879
Speaker 1: and I hate that I'm using. Dirk is like one

2875
02:49:09,920 --> 02:49:12,240
Speaker 1: of the examples because like I really fucked him and

2876
02:49:12,520 --> 02:49:14,440
Speaker 1: with his music. But again, you gotta you gotta, you

2877
02:49:14,480 --> 02:49:17,600
Speaker 1: gotta think about just think about time and right, like

2878
02:49:17,720 --> 02:49:19,800
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, Dirt literally said, yo, I'm

2879
02:49:19,800 --> 02:49:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna stop this. And by the way, this was after

2880
02:49:23,600 --> 02:49:28,680
Speaker 1: fbg's mom who's been mourning for however long for her

2881
02:49:28,760 --> 02:49:32,120
Speaker 1: son she's been She's saying it, yo, could you stop,

2882
02:49:32,520 --> 02:49:35,400
Speaker 1: like you're richie, could you stop? This is my dead son? Please? Please?

2883
02:49:35,440 --> 02:49:39,520
Speaker 1: Could you stop? At one point, and really this came

2884
02:49:39,560 --> 02:49:41,920
Speaker 1: off I gotta be honest, It felt like he came

2885
02:49:42,000 --> 02:49:44,960
Speaker 1: off internet pressure, a bit of people saying yo, yo,

2886
02:49:45,080 --> 02:49:47,800
Speaker 1: come on, this is bad energy. This is bad energy. Also,

2887
02:49:47,879 --> 02:49:49,680
Speaker 1: we saw his brother passed with people kept saying this

2888
02:49:49,720 --> 02:49:51,880
Speaker 1: bad energy. He tweeted out he said, I'm gonna stop

2889
02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:54,320
Speaker 1: after a certain point. But we also got to keep

2890
02:49:54,360 --> 02:49:56,320
Speaker 1: it honest about the music. We're still seeing coming out

2891
02:49:56,360 --> 02:49:58,960
Speaker 1: the music that the song that dropped today is still

2892
02:49:59,080 --> 02:50:03,640
Speaker 1: talking about spinning and sliding and still were making loose references.

2893
02:50:04,120 --> 02:50:06,360
Speaker 1: Now again for the person who thinks I'm just pointing

2894
02:50:06,360 --> 02:50:09,240
Speaker 1: everything out, who will just act like he's just random stuff.

2895
02:50:09,280 --> 02:50:11,760
Speaker 1: But the energy is still there in the music. It's

2896
02:50:11,800 --> 02:50:18,200
Speaker 1: not like it was a verbal promise. But I think

2897
02:50:18,320 --> 02:50:21,320
Speaker 1: Dirk understands that a lot of like Dirty is commun

2898
02:50:21,400 --> 02:50:23,360
Speaker 1: is the hottest rapper you know. I've tweeted out I said,

2899
02:50:23,400 --> 02:50:25,280
Speaker 1: I think Dirt on still one hundred and fifty first

2900
02:50:25,280 --> 02:50:30,760
Speaker 1: week when there's a there's a type of organic lickness

2901
02:50:30,840 --> 02:50:33,279
Speaker 1: you get like Baby had it right before he dropped

2902
02:50:33,560 --> 02:50:36,600
Speaker 1: My Turn, where like everybody's fucking with you when you're

2903
02:50:36,640 --> 02:50:39,880
Speaker 1: not too mainstream enough. But like everybody, whether it be

2904
02:50:40,080 --> 02:50:44,199
Speaker 1: just like regular casual fans, street um street rap fans,

2905
02:50:44,440 --> 02:50:47,600
Speaker 1: everybody fuss you, Dirt is there right now. And if

2906
02:50:47,640 --> 02:50:50,960
Speaker 1: you ask me to be toe, I think he knows.

2907
02:50:51,520 --> 02:50:56,840
Speaker 1: They gravitate towards tracks like Hellcats and track Hawks, multiple

2908
02:50:56,920 --> 02:51:00,680
Speaker 1: songs he got with m back again. All these niggas

2909
02:51:00,720 --> 02:51:02,280
Speaker 1: should have ducked you know what I mean? He knows,

2910
02:51:02,560 --> 02:51:04,920
Speaker 1: he knows that. Listen. It's a reason why when he

2911
02:51:05,040 --> 02:51:08,680
Speaker 1: previewing music and talking about like yo when he's preview

2912
02:51:08,840 --> 02:51:12,760
Speaker 1: music and and this is the only reason why I

2913
02:51:12,879 --> 02:51:17,680
Speaker 1: even mentioned I mentioned the videos like yo, um oh yeah,

2914
02:51:17,680 --> 02:51:20,320
Speaker 1: Well I guess it was sliding right and it was

2915
02:51:20,320 --> 02:51:25,240
Speaker 1: obviously scious tongue in cheek comment. But Dirk is very dirty.

2916
02:51:25,560 --> 02:51:29,160
Speaker 1: Dirt acknowledges that you know the internet been trolling him

2917
02:51:29,160 --> 02:51:32,120
Speaker 1: about that. He dropped the verse literally saying it. He

2918
02:51:32,320 --> 02:51:35,040
Speaker 1: literally dropped the verse saying it you get me so

2919
02:51:35,160 --> 02:51:39,920
Speaker 1: like the artists as well. They're so in tune and

2920
02:51:40,040 --> 02:51:44,800
Speaker 1: they're they're doing this cognizantly. I gotta call bs if

2921
02:51:44,800 --> 02:51:47,000
Speaker 1: you really just think they could wrap it up into

2922
02:51:47,080 --> 02:51:51,840
Speaker 1: just artistic expression at this point for these current artists,

2923
02:51:52,600 --> 02:51:56,760
Speaker 1: and they could just be like, uh, well I'm just

2924
02:51:56,959 --> 02:51:59,280
Speaker 1: talking to talking. It's the media, and you know what,

2925
02:51:59,800 --> 02:52:02,560
Speaker 1: the only problem I have right is the more and

2926
02:52:02,680 --> 02:52:05,400
Speaker 1: more I hear this, it give me them vibes. Al

2927
02:52:07,280 --> 02:52:11,640
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't aware that short dress, you know what

2928
02:52:11,720 --> 02:52:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, people have a right to if they

2929
02:52:14,280 --> 02:52:16,800
Speaker 1: want to do whatever they want to do today self

2930
02:52:17,160 --> 02:52:19,680
Speaker 1: their selves, whatever that may be. They got a right

2931
02:52:19,760 --> 02:52:23,720
Speaker 1: to do that. That doesn't warrant. That's not a permission

2932
02:52:23,800 --> 02:52:26,680
Speaker 1: slip for everybody to do what you see me doing

2933
02:52:26,800 --> 02:52:29,760
Speaker 1: to me. I might be going through whatever that's causing

2934
02:52:29,840 --> 02:52:33,320
Speaker 1: me to do certain things that you know, don't assist

2935
02:52:33,480 --> 02:52:38,320
Speaker 1: me in my death, you understand. If anything, try to

2936
02:52:38,440 --> 02:52:41,920
Speaker 1: pull me like, keep keep keep being critical of me

2937
02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:45,480
Speaker 1: until I stop doing it, you know, or walk with

2938
02:52:45,720 --> 02:52:48,600
Speaker 1: me through it. Or something. Help me, But don't you

2939
02:52:48,720 --> 02:52:51,200
Speaker 1: feel me. It's not a permission slip to say, Yo,

2940
02:52:51,440 --> 02:52:54,640
Speaker 1: you know I saw you over that cutting yourself, So

2941
02:52:54,840 --> 02:52:56,920
Speaker 1: I come on, I brought my knife on over. I'm

2942
02:52:57,200 --> 02:53:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna cut you myself. And you can't feel a way

2943
02:53:00,480 --> 02:53:02,959
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna cut you. You're cutting yourself like those

2944
02:53:03,080 --> 02:53:07,280
Speaker 1: things that are not parallel. And the more excuse me,

2945
02:53:07,440 --> 02:53:11,080
Speaker 1: the more I'm hearing that it's it's being received that

2946
02:53:11,280 --> 02:53:14,680
Speaker 1: way people who are looking too much into it causing

2947
02:53:14,720 --> 02:53:21,280
Speaker 1: the problems because again like FBG, duck, mom hit me

2948
02:53:21,520 --> 02:53:25,760
Speaker 1: every four hours. Hey listen, I hit you way back

2949
02:53:25,800 --> 02:53:29,800
Speaker 1: then my son murders finally got caught. Yo. Won't you

2950
02:53:30,040 --> 02:53:32,840
Speaker 1: given this dude a platform to dis my son all

2951
02:53:32,920 --> 02:53:35,000
Speaker 1: these years? Why won't you give me a platform that

2952
02:53:35,240 --> 02:53:38,400
Speaker 1: I could speak up? Yeah? So so again it's one

2953
02:53:38,400 --> 02:53:41,120
Speaker 1: of those things where this is an accountability. I just

2954
02:53:41,200 --> 02:53:42,800
Speaker 1: want everybody to have it when y'all have the same

2955
02:53:42,920 --> 02:53:45,920
Speaker 1: energy for me, let's talk about those situations because again

2956
02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:48,000
Speaker 1: you'll got talk about acade. You're right, academic saint got

2957
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:50,640
Speaker 1: nothing to do that. But now you have the mom

2958
02:53:50,720 --> 02:53:52,520
Speaker 1: of a the seas rapper who want to talk about

2959
02:53:52,560 --> 02:53:55,000
Speaker 1: that or y'all gonna have those conversations or you're gonna

2960
02:53:55,000 --> 02:53:57,000
Speaker 1: sweep it under the rug because you know what I mean,

2961
02:53:57,360 --> 02:53:59,800
Speaker 1: it might not favor who you might like. Again, we're

2962
02:53:59,840 --> 02:54:06,960
Speaker 1: not having real honest discussions. You keep telling me to

2963
02:54:07,120 --> 02:54:09,720
Speaker 1: hold on, and I've been waiting. I just want to

2964
02:54:09,720 --> 02:54:15,840
Speaker 1: ask them one question an thank you academics. Do you

2965
02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:20,880
Speaker 1: believe in a power of influence? Yes? Okay? And do

2966
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:24,320
Speaker 1: you know that you have a platform where there's multiple

2967
02:54:24,480 --> 02:54:27,199
Speaker 1: people all over the world like watching you and listen

2968
02:54:27,280 --> 02:54:32,360
Speaker 1: to what you have to say? Yes? Okay. So even

2969
02:54:32,400 --> 02:54:34,400
Speaker 1: though you may call yourself I'm not sure if you

2970
02:54:34,480 --> 02:54:39,520
Speaker 1: call yourself like a radio personality or a blogger, but

2971
02:54:40,400 --> 02:54:45,080
Speaker 1: the influence that you have and what you post is

2972
02:54:45,120 --> 02:54:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna attract other influences to whatever you're attracting. So it's

2973
02:54:50,400 --> 02:54:53,600
Speaker 1: not that I disagree with your hustle. It's just that

2974
02:54:54,160 --> 02:54:56,640
Speaker 1: like just me personally, like me as a human being,

2975
02:54:57,000 --> 02:54:59,400
Speaker 1: and me as someone who stands for like my black

2976
02:54:59,480 --> 02:55:02,400
Speaker 1: community in general. And I hate to I hate to

2977
02:55:02,480 --> 02:55:05,640
Speaker 1: do this to you, but in general, like the black community,

2978
02:55:05,720 --> 02:55:08,480
Speaker 1: I care about them, and like the stuff that you're promoting.

2979
02:55:08,560 --> 02:55:11,600
Speaker 1: If it's not really promote in peace and you're engaging

2980
02:55:11,760 --> 02:55:14,560
Speaker 1: or instigating the violence. I can't respect it. And I

2981
02:55:14,600 --> 02:55:18,959
Speaker 1: feel like that's what you did. Do you respect what um,

2982
02:55:20,040 --> 02:55:24,560
Speaker 1: little Dirk Lourice, other rappers I'm gonna keep it in Chicago.

2983
02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:26,840
Speaker 1: Do you respect what they do? No? I don't. I

2984
02:55:26,920 --> 02:55:30,080
Speaker 1: don't respect anybody that goes against the black community or

2985
02:55:30,480 --> 02:55:34,120
Speaker 1: who contributes to, like the violence. I don't. And I

2986
02:55:34,400 --> 02:55:36,760
Speaker 1: feel like you as a person, like I know, I

2987
02:55:36,879 --> 02:55:38,920
Speaker 1: know that you don't want to like it's your it's

2988
02:55:38,959 --> 02:55:42,039
Speaker 1: not your full responsibility to accept the fact that, Okay,

2989
02:55:42,080 --> 02:55:44,800
Speaker 1: I could have influenced it at the end of the day, Um,

2990
02:55:45,080 --> 02:55:47,280
Speaker 1: it's not totally up to you. But it's like you did,

2991
02:55:47,440 --> 02:55:50,600
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form influence that like you

2992
02:55:50,800 --> 02:55:53,800
Speaker 1: you shape, like you influence more viewers to see the

2993
02:55:53,920 --> 02:55:57,040
Speaker 1: violence that was like going on and that in that

2994
02:55:57,240 --> 02:56:01,080
Speaker 1: in that community. And I don't respect that. So you're

2995
02:56:01,200 --> 02:56:03,600
Speaker 1: you're down and saying on this platform that you don't

2996
02:56:03,640 --> 02:56:07,960
Speaker 1: respect no rapper who talks about selling drugs or or

2997
02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:10,360
Speaker 1: promoting violence, because a lot of them do. Street rappers,

2998
02:56:10,480 --> 02:56:14,880
Speaker 1: big right, No, I don't. I don't personally know, all right,

2999
02:56:15,240 --> 02:56:17,760
Speaker 1: who's your favorite rappers right now? I don't have a

3000
02:56:17,800 --> 02:56:20,800
Speaker 1: favorite right now. Sorry, Okay, so you're not really in

3001
02:56:20,840 --> 02:56:23,760
Speaker 1: to rap like that? Okay for me as all that

3002
02:56:23,879 --> 02:56:28,320
Speaker 1: same energy, I think that's a very constructive like criticism that.

3003
02:56:28,600 --> 02:56:31,720
Speaker 1: As for me, it's like never, it's never really accountability

3004
02:56:32,040 --> 02:56:34,520
Speaker 1: like you know, again, I keep telling y'all that I'm

3005
02:56:34,560 --> 02:56:37,320
Speaker 1: always down for that as long as this issue fairly

3006
02:56:37,360 --> 02:56:40,360
Speaker 1: across the board. You know, like if if you know

3007
02:56:40,600 --> 02:56:43,520
Speaker 1: that conversation, I would escalate to say, all right, cool,

3008
02:56:43,959 --> 02:56:45,959
Speaker 1: well I'm glad you're not being a hypocrite because if

3009
02:56:45,959 --> 02:56:48,320
Speaker 1: you said, well, my favorite rappers poo schisty, but I

3010
02:56:48,360 --> 02:56:51,840
Speaker 1: don't like when you as the media talk about or

3011
02:56:51,959 --> 02:56:54,560
Speaker 1: put these type of issues on the screen in a

3012
02:56:54,680 --> 02:56:56,600
Speaker 1: media context, I'd be like, you're a hypocrite, but you're

3013
02:56:56,600 --> 02:56:58,320
Speaker 1: saying you don't like it at all. At that point

3014
02:56:58,360 --> 02:57:01,720
Speaker 1: of rapp, wait, nah, I need to control my stage.

3015
02:57:01,760 --> 02:57:04,199
Speaker 1: I need to I have people that I need to speak.

3016
02:57:05,600 --> 02:57:08,280
Speaker 1: So this is this is my issue right with what

3017
02:57:08,800 --> 02:57:12,720
Speaker 1: was happening. Um, so you see the young lady come

3018
02:57:12,800 --> 02:57:18,760
Speaker 1: to him and again you know ac uses um. You

3019
02:57:18,840 --> 02:57:21,440
Speaker 1: know this talking point that he often uses that Hey,

3020
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, if you say your favorite rapp is Poosh

3021
02:57:24,520 --> 02:57:28,360
Speaker 1: Shicey again. Another young brother free Poosh shice is locked

3022
02:57:28,440 --> 02:57:31,600
Speaker 1: up fighting for his life. They throwing life on the table,

3023
02:57:31,720 --> 02:57:34,520
Speaker 1: trying to play the games that the government plays, and

3024
02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:38,920
Speaker 1: so um, I think it just it's more favorable to

3025
02:57:39,040 --> 02:57:42,080
Speaker 1: keep them kind of guys out of those type of conversations.

3026
02:57:42,160 --> 02:57:44,560
Speaker 1: But hey, maybe that's just me. I know what it's

3027
02:57:44,600 --> 02:57:46,480
Speaker 1: like to put it under the mattress. So I might

3028
02:57:46,520 --> 02:57:49,279
Speaker 1: be a little different than a lot of these guys. However,

3029
02:57:49,720 --> 02:57:53,880
Speaker 1: she's trying to explain two academics, and let me be clear,

3030
02:57:54,080 --> 02:57:58,400
Speaker 1: I respect academics, business acumen. The dude has built itself

3031
02:57:58,959 --> 02:58:03,800
Speaker 1: multimillion the company. We respect that. However, the game is

3032
02:58:03,840 --> 02:58:06,520
Speaker 1: the game. The gig is the gig. It's important for

3033
02:58:06,640 --> 02:58:09,480
Speaker 1: us to just critique the culture as well as me.

3034
02:58:09,640 --> 02:58:13,360
Speaker 1: I will be critiqued as well. But let's look at

3035
02:58:13,440 --> 02:58:20,680
Speaker 1: this to a pair of clear lenses. She asked. You know,

3036
02:58:20,879 --> 02:58:25,640
Speaker 1: he seems to not understand why people say yo act yo. Man.

3037
02:58:25,720 --> 02:58:30,000
Speaker 1: With you covering it, bro, it amplified it. Bro. He's like,

3038
02:58:30,120 --> 02:58:34,240
Speaker 1: what how I'm nobody. I'm just somebody that's on the internet.

3039
02:58:36,200 --> 02:58:41,840
Speaker 1: But it's important to understand position again, perspective is always key.

3040
02:58:42,440 --> 02:58:46,160
Speaker 1: If you don't know, you can't be that shallow. And

3041
02:58:46,280 --> 02:58:49,920
Speaker 1: but you built that into a multimillion dollar outfit. So

3042
02:58:50,080 --> 02:58:52,959
Speaker 1: I gotta think that you kind of understand what they're saying.

3043
02:58:53,360 --> 02:58:55,840
Speaker 1: But let's entertain the fact that you don't, and let

3044
02:58:55,920 --> 02:58:57,880
Speaker 1: me try to break it down a little more for you.

3045
02:59:01,400 --> 02:59:07,520
Speaker 1: There's a situation that happens in the neighborhood where violence

3046
02:59:07,600 --> 02:59:12,280
Speaker 1: is gonna happen, not even just my neighborhood. Anything in

3047
02:59:12,440 --> 02:59:15,119
Speaker 1: proximity of each other will kill each other. That goes

3048
02:59:15,200 --> 02:59:21,120
Speaker 1: for fish will kill fish. You know, ants will kill ants.

3049
02:59:21,480 --> 02:59:25,360
Speaker 1: You know, anything that's in close proximity of each other,

3050
02:59:25,879 --> 02:59:28,760
Speaker 1: there will be some sort of violence that takes place

3051
02:59:29,720 --> 02:59:34,160
Speaker 1: in most cases, right, so things are gonna happen. The

3052
02:59:34,360 --> 02:59:37,200
Speaker 1: media has a very important role. And again I like

3053
02:59:37,400 --> 02:59:40,160
Speaker 1: the point that the young lady made when she said

3054
02:59:40,320 --> 02:59:43,880
Speaker 1: there's a difference between a blogger and a media outlet.

3055
02:59:44,040 --> 02:59:46,320
Speaker 1: That was deep. I never said that. I didn't think

3056
02:59:46,360 --> 02:59:50,320
Speaker 1: about that, and oftentimes people don't say things in this

3057
02:59:50,600 --> 02:59:53,400
Speaker 1: rim that haven't crossed my mind. So that hit me

3058
02:59:53,440 --> 02:59:55,280
Speaker 1: in a way. While I said, that's a good point,

3059
02:59:55,320 --> 03:00:00,640
Speaker 1: and maybe I'll live there at some other time. But again,

3060
03:00:01,240 --> 03:00:05,160
Speaker 1: violence is gonna happen. Things are gonna transpire, arguments, blocks,

3061
03:00:05,280 --> 03:00:09,480
Speaker 1: turf wars, money, you know, things are gonna drive this

3062
03:00:10,720 --> 03:00:16,760
Speaker 1: ongoing situation that's happening inside these neighborhoods. But the problem

3063
03:00:17,080 --> 03:00:21,920
Speaker 1: is is that when you got an academics looking into it,

3064
03:00:23,879 --> 03:00:25,880
Speaker 1: and he's a growing thing and he's kind of at

3065
03:00:25,920 --> 03:00:28,680
Speaker 1: the top of the list in regards to Instagram or

3066
03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:31,400
Speaker 1: that especially Instagram, he might be the number one hip

3067
03:00:31,440 --> 03:00:37,640
Speaker 1: hop Instagram page. Right, So consequently, the only thing I

3068
03:00:37,720 --> 03:00:41,879
Speaker 1: can think about is when we was young, Right, It's

3069
03:00:41,920 --> 03:00:44,520
Speaker 1: a situation that happens like say you say, you play

3070
03:00:44,640 --> 03:00:47,400
Speaker 1: ball and Mama and them take you to the gym.

3071
03:00:47,600 --> 03:00:50,200
Speaker 1: They take you over, you know, Saturday morning, they take

3072
03:00:50,280 --> 03:00:52,840
Speaker 1: you to the gym, you know, try to get you

3073
03:00:52,920 --> 03:00:55,080
Speaker 1: to work out, and you you're shooting a little bit

3074
03:00:55,160 --> 03:00:57,760
Speaker 1: and you're working out a little bit and you you know,

3075
03:00:57,920 --> 03:01:01,640
Speaker 1: you got you're putting a little something into it. But

3076
03:01:01,800 --> 03:01:05,600
Speaker 1: it hit different when they tell you, Ayo, a scout

3077
03:01:05,720 --> 03:01:10,119
Speaker 1: from the NBA is hill. Now he run a little harder,

3078
03:01:10,240 --> 03:01:12,880
Speaker 1: his defense, a little tighter, his followed through his day,

3079
03:01:12,959 --> 03:01:16,200
Speaker 1: his farm is intact. He got his shoes tied up,

3080
03:01:16,280 --> 03:01:19,160
Speaker 1: his head band on. He running hard as he can

3081
03:01:19,360 --> 03:01:22,520
Speaker 1: and he you know, his defense is tight. You know

3082
03:01:22,760 --> 03:01:27,560
Speaker 1: everything is intact now because that's a Scout hill an

3083
03:01:27,600 --> 03:01:30,480
Speaker 1: academic seems to not understand that when they land on

3084
03:01:30,640 --> 03:01:34,360
Speaker 1: his page is almost equivalent to going pro because the

3085
03:01:34,520 --> 03:01:38,080
Speaker 1: notoriety attached to that has changed some of these people lives.

3086
03:01:38,959 --> 03:01:41,640
Speaker 1: You know, when you call him the shy rad Grim Reaper,

3087
03:01:41,720 --> 03:01:44,280
Speaker 1: he might have sold thirty thousand records when that was

3088
03:01:44,360 --> 03:01:47,280
Speaker 1: going on. That may have changed his life. So they're

3089
03:01:47,360 --> 03:01:50,520
Speaker 1: chasing out, they're trying to get out. They're trying to

3090
03:01:50,640 --> 03:01:53,400
Speaker 1: chase away out the game. And so when you looking

3091
03:01:53,480 --> 03:01:57,000
Speaker 1: into it and willing to post it, it's almost like

3092
03:01:57,120 --> 03:02:01,440
Speaker 1: a Scouts in the stands now. And you see the

3093
03:02:01,520 --> 03:02:03,920
Speaker 1: little boy he didn't do that with mom and them,

3094
03:02:04,040 --> 03:02:07,000
Speaker 1: was just in here watching when his cousin them was

3095
03:02:07,080 --> 03:02:09,120
Speaker 1: in here bawling with him. He was bawling, but not

3096
03:02:09,320 --> 03:02:12,000
Speaker 1: that hard. He was going a little hard, but not

3097
03:02:12,240 --> 03:02:14,879
Speaker 1: that hard. Now that he knows that the New York

3098
03:02:15,040 --> 03:02:18,879
Speaker 1: Nick Scout is out here watching, it's a different feel.

3099
03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:22,760
Speaker 1: And again, for you to be either that naive to

3100
03:02:22,879 --> 03:02:26,600
Speaker 1: not know your position, it worries me. It worries me

3101
03:02:26,720 --> 03:02:30,880
Speaker 1: if you don't know that. You know, being placed on

3102
03:02:31,040 --> 03:02:35,520
Speaker 1: your page as an act of violence isn't a sign

3103
03:02:35,600 --> 03:02:38,840
Speaker 1: of notoriety. When I'm a podcast that dropped million Dollar

3104
03:02:39,000 --> 03:02:42,199
Speaker 1: Game every week and I don't get posted on that page.

3105
03:02:42,760 --> 03:02:46,640
Speaker 1: This people providing an opportunity in the hood that don't

3106
03:02:46,640 --> 03:02:49,840
Speaker 1: get posted on that page. They got people with courses

3107
03:02:49,879 --> 03:02:53,160
Speaker 1: like Tony Closer that don't get posted on that page

3108
03:02:53,440 --> 03:02:55,880
Speaker 1: unless it's a checker test to it. So you mean

3109
03:02:55,959 --> 03:02:59,080
Speaker 1: to tell me that you so somebody knows some value

3110
03:02:59,120 --> 03:03:04,480
Speaker 1: being on these pages. Somebody know it's some value attached

3111
03:03:04,520 --> 03:03:08,600
Speaker 1: to being on these pages. So you can't then sell

3112
03:03:08,760 --> 03:03:12,760
Speaker 1: me that yo, putting them on my page didn't affect anything.

3113
03:03:13,440 --> 03:03:15,960
Speaker 1: I think that's irresponsible for us to have that type

3114
03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:20,920
Speaker 1: of mindset about that. You just took these little dudes

3115
03:03:20,959 --> 03:03:25,440
Speaker 1: and sent them pro the notoriety attached to that. Now

3116
03:03:25,560 --> 03:03:28,640
Speaker 1: you got opts reaching out, people reaching out. But then

3117
03:03:28,720 --> 03:03:30,960
Speaker 1: you got loved ones that said, oh they you know

3118
03:03:31,040 --> 03:03:33,320
Speaker 1: they went up on academics. We gotta go back at

3119
03:03:33,400 --> 03:03:39,080
Speaker 1: them like it's fueling that. Bro, you gotta think you

3120
03:03:39,240 --> 03:03:42,160
Speaker 1: media dudes and you people with millions and followers, y'all

3121
03:03:42,280 --> 03:03:46,040
Speaker 1: dudes and scouts when a person post you on their page.

3122
03:03:46,120 --> 03:03:48,240
Speaker 1: That's why I give it up the bank for posting me.

3123
03:03:49,160 --> 03:03:51,200
Speaker 1: You gotta all leave people following you. When you co

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Speaker 1: sade and post something, then folks is saying, hey, yo,

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Speaker 1: what's up with that person? It's it's something that happens there.

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Speaker 1: You cannot ignore that, and I think it's irresponsible to

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Speaker 1: do so. Your position in the game is like a

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Speaker 1: scount for the NBA. When you put a stamp on somebody,

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Speaker 1: it's a stamp. When you say, yo, you gotta watch

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Speaker 1: this jump with the little dude to shoot boy and

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Speaker 1: he fasts. They may not never check that. Again. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about the dorks, the geeks, and then you see

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Speaker 1: the pressure of the internet. You see what they do,

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Speaker 1: the dirt he get on that said they they're on

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Speaker 1: my page saying Slaugher Vaughan. I know they're trolling me.

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Speaker 1: Got a nigga this making what they on tour? What

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Speaker 1: you make a night Sydney eight and nine a hundred

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Speaker 1: a night, That's how That's how much pressure attest to

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Speaker 1: that internet when they just gonna keep tweeting Queaki, So

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Speaker 1: you can't say that what you put on that page

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Speaker 1: sometimes fuel some of these kind of tweets you see

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Speaker 1: or something, these kind of comments which then fuel somebody

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Speaker 1: like Dirk that's at the top of the food chained

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Speaker 1: to respond to its So what you think about little

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Speaker 1: Ronron and they just killed this cuzin then went platinum

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Speaker 1: on academics page. It's something they're happening. Bro, look at

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Speaker 1: it that way. It's like going to the NBA. It's

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Speaker 1: like going pro for these little dudes. You understand, and

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Speaker 1: then when you put things together, these people don't know

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Speaker 1: Lano and certain things that you think they know. These

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Speaker 1: people are good at making people think they know more

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Speaker 1: than they know. And also the second point is I

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Speaker 1: don't expect you to echo the federal government. People like

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Speaker 1: to say what the fairs say. They got in front

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Speaker 1: of music. Oh the fas said this. I get that

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Speaker 1: they post to say that. I don't expect you to

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Speaker 1: echo the FIZ though, see Loon, don't echo the Fiz. Loon,

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Speaker 1: echo the real niggas. Lou, echo the smart niggas, Loo,

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Speaker 1: echo re your game. Y'all can echo the federal government.

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Speaker 1: That's on y'all. But I want to point it out

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Speaker 1: so that my people and people that's discovering me day

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Speaker 1: by day, understand that there is somebody in position that

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Speaker 1: understand what's going on, understand how these things intertwine, and

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Speaker 1: can explain them from a standpoint that they better understand.

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Speaker 1: It ain't no way that nobody can't understand what I

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Speaker 1: just said. I think it's being conveniently ignored. It's no

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Speaker 1: way you can't ignore what how I just put that down.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll wait on the response to that, or will

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Speaker 1: wait on a conversation, you know, I mean, now, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to also speak about this, and then I'm gone.

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Speaker 1: I keep telling y'all to reach your vis up the podcast.

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Speaker 1: A month ago, I did a story on my podcast

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Speaker 1: about the Rutherford County, the Rutherford County Police or the

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Speaker 1: police officer in the school wanting to lock all the

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Speaker 1: students up. If y'all go back. One month, I did

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Speaker 1: a story about how I talked to the police officer

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Speaker 1: at the school and I told him who I was,

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Speaker 1: and I said, they listen, This is unique for me

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Speaker 1: to hear somebody to speak with such illiteracy. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be one of the dumbest people I've I've bumped into

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Speaker 1: in regards to having any kind of power, you understand,

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Speaker 1: because he was telling me what I think they need

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Speaker 1: to go to jail. Now I think that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: go to jail, and I'm saying, what are you serious?

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Speaker 1: So go back and listen to that, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about that next week because I'm about to go.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk about that next week because now

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Speaker 1: the federal government or somebody has came in and now

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Speaker 1: they got some kind of case open that they'd unlocked

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Speaker 1: up so many children and ruther County it's like a

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Speaker 1: school to prison pipeline that I explain. I told y'all this,

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Speaker 1: so again, we'll talk about that next week. I thank

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Speaker 1: everybody for listening to It's Up There podcast. Like this episode.

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Speaker 1: to speak about, and let's comb through it and have

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Speaker 1: a good time on Patreon with all my people. Subscribe

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Speaker 1: to Patreon. Right now, we're about to crank that up

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Speaker 1: and go crazy with the people. It's up there with y'all.

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Speaker 1: merged t spring dot com. It's up there, podcast. You

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Speaker 1: dealing with the biggest one. I want to thank y'all

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Speaker 1: for listening all the way here. We'll appreciate y'all. We're

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Speaker 1: on a multi million dollar grind. It don't stop, It

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Speaker 1: won't stop. It's up there. This is not the Joe

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Speaker 1: Button Podcast. This is not million dollars came. This is

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Speaker 1: Monco Rfect