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Speaker 1: this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio eleven time,

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Speaker 1: is Willie d Is saying this to me like my nickname,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I know what I

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Speaker 1: up to y'all like Alan, you you bro. I we

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Speaker 1: I do probably people that were more man haters, got

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Speaker 1: haters hate us, hate on hate us a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: oh they really hated If you won't, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you want this life, but but Um, if I

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Speaker 1: I come back the same dude. She mean, I love

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Do I want more for my life?

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Speaker 1: Do I want better and all that ship? Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I'm cool with being me. Jack did that. Jack sucked

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Speaker 1: them up. Let's go back to your humble beginnings. Man Hampton,

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Speaker 1: Virginia Happening Newport News. I'm I'm I'm I'm seven cities. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because people get piste off me when one place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta claim. Yeah, I'm I'm Virginia's That's fine, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: where it all started. Uh. And I say humble beginners

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Speaker 1: all the things that you've done, you know, throughout the

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Speaker 1: Your mother asked, my, my, my, my pap? Was my pap?

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Speaker 1: It's just like my sister loved me, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. My brother loved me my mom love me,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to go on this motherfucker on Sunday All

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Speaker 1: complained like I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 1: Like I wrote that letter to Kobe, and I meant

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Speaker 1: I think I wrote it right after, right after, and

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter, like never just listen, listen, to me,

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Speaker 1: Gary Moore, he's my manager, but he's my mentor. Heat

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Speaker 1: I was published. I was ready. I was ready. Straight

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00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: to Georgetown, like, um, I went there. I think I

420
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: went there. Alonzo Morning was there with coach. That's my

421
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: partner too. Yeah, And and I went right from jail

422
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: um to getting on the court. That was a time

423
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: before you went to Georgetown that you had to wait

424
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: to see what Governor Douglas do, what kind of decision

425
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: he would make in your case. And I know that

426
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: had to be that have to be a very very

427
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: nervous time for you right there, huh, just waiting to

428
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: try to see if they were gonna give you some relief.

429
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna do it. I mean, thinking

430
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: back on, I don't know, man, I think he was

431
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: going to do it because of everything I heard about him,

432
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: what type of man he was, you know what I mean, like,

433
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: and he knew that it was some bullshit, you know

434
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: what I mean like. And then those people, like those

435
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: people in Virginia, they fought for me, man, they did.

436
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: I know. I saw that. It was like they they

437
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: fought for me. Man. I saw a special on Alan

438
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: and um that's funny. You called me Alan my bad Chuck.

439
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: But I saw a special man and they put that

440
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: in there. Man. And I know that Coach Thompson put

441
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: put a lot to you, bro, you know, and for

442
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: you to turn out, you know what you turned out

443
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: to be in the NBA from that right there. Like,

444
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: it's extremely impressive, brod that I ain't done making them proud. Man,

445
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not done making him. I ain't did enough.

446
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: It's little dudes, o't hear that? I gotta Oh yeah,

447
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: you gott you got some more ships that? Did you

448
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: ever tell coach we can't talk about no game. We're

449
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: talking about practicing. We talked, man, listen, so this is

450
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: my last time doing this? Um, I'm talking about Thompson.

451
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Did you ever tell him that this is my last

452
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: time doing it? Whatever? Man, I never told him that.

453
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I know. I wouldn't brave enough to do no ship

454
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: like to tell him to telling him nothing like that.

455
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: Um My, his friend had just got killed and they

456
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: were talking about trading me that year and I went

457
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: to Um, I met with the general manager and I

458
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: met with Coach Brown, and they assured me that I

459
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: wasn't getting traded. But I was going through some ship

460
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: at that time because my kids, like they were going

461
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: to school and their their classmates were saying, tell your dad,

462
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: don't leave, and their teachers was, you know what I mean,

463
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Like they was going through it. Like I can, I

464
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: can deal with this ship, but with my kids and

465
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: my girl having to go through that, it was a problem.

466
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: So I was happy as motherfucker when I went in

467
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: there with the general manager and they was like, you

468
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere, you know what I mean. So the

469
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: press conference was supposed to be me assuring the fans

470
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: and everybody in Philadelphia sing that I ain't going nowhere,

471
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker's kept asking me about practice. I just yeah,

472
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: I lost it. I lost it, you know what I mean? Like,

473
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: when did you ever question yourself after when they made

474
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: that statement about practice? Did you have a question yourself

475
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: and be like, well, no, because you can't be a

476
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: bad motherfucker like that if you don't practice right, like well, well,

477
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the statement itself made people think that you didn't care

478
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: about practice, you know, like you had bad but okay,

479
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: let's clear that up. Did you have bad practice happens?

480
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Did you did you? Would you? Would you? Like like

481
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: like real can practice? You were serious about your practice?

482
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: Or did you you about drills? Okay, but if you

483
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: played five on five, then I'm ready. I want to

484
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: do that. I ain't. I didn't care too much for

485
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: this way, this way, you know what I mean. I

486
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: already knew that throw the ball up and let's go

487
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: like that was my thing, you know what I mean? Like,

488
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: so you did so you didn't have a pattern of

489
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: skipping practice. You went to practice, but I had. I

490
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: had a pattern of skipping. Yeah, they were doing drills

491
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: that day. No, sometimes I was out too late. And

492
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: when I come in there, I don't feel like it,

493
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm a man, I'm a human.

494
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: You you you I'm just tell me what you what

495
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: you want me to make a sound fly to you?

496
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: I ain't doing I ain't doing that. I was not Kobe.

497
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: Kobe was something else. He was the guy, like I said,

498
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: we're in the club. That motherfucker's in the gym oh ship,

499
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And and and that's what

500
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: separated him from a whole lot of dudes, even myself.

501
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Do you ever but do you ever think to yourself

502
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, I'm I'm top whatever I'm I'm

503
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm a Hall of Famers. Great, But what if I

504
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: had practice more? You ever think that, what if iout

505
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: the live weights? What about it? You know what I mean?

506
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: What if I would? Um dedicated myself more? But I

507
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: did a lot. I dedicated myself a lot to to

508
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: to be who I'm who I am. I did a lot.

509
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: Would you say you gave what you could to the

510
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: maximum at the same time to maintain your sanity? You know,

511
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: like you gave as much as you could to maintain

512
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: your sanity because you have to have balance, right, something

513
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: like like Dennis Rodman. Dennis Rodman used to like, I

514
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: gotta go to Vegas. Man. We're in the midd the playoffs.

515
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: I saw the last day, but I gotta go to Vegas.

516
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like Roman, but I'm saying

517
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: that Dennis Rodman don't go to the Vegas. He might

518
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: not mean perhaps he's not as effective on the court

519
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: because he needed that balance. Um, did you feel like

520
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's what That's what he did? That's that's

521
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: what didn't and that's what he did. What I'm saying,

522
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying just a bad motherfucker. So some some

523
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: people just crazy, man, some people are just awesome. But

524
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: did you feel like you had to have that kind

525
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: you had to have your own balance by not going

526
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: to practice sometimes or whatever, doing no just just living,

527
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: like just living living my life, like being happy, like

528
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: being I don't know, man, you know what I'm saying,

529
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: like just living your living your life. Like one of

530
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: my off days. I know, Raw I wish he was

531
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: here to have a bad day, like I know he

532
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: wished he could have a bad day. Like it's motherfucker's

533
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: that I love. They wish they could have a bad day.

534
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: And I had bad days. I had. I had days

535
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: where not even I'm calling it a bad day, I

536
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: don't mean it like that. I did what I wanted

537
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: to do. I'm gonna do that until I'm gone. Man.

538
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm the greatest father, I'm the greatest homeboy. I'm the

539
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: greatest brother, I'm the greatest son. I'm the greatest everything

540
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: that I try to be. That's who I am. Do

541
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: I make mistakes? Do I suck up? Hell? Yeah? Do

542
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: I wish I wouldn't have did this and did that. Yeah, yeah,

543
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: I wish. I mean, what then can I do? I

544
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: can't do nothing else but be me and be happy

545
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker long as motherfucker's like, y'all rock with me.

546
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: My family loved me, my teammates, my God love me

547
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: out of here. Man, I'm cool. Cool. They tell us

548
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: about your relationship with John Thompson coach John Thompson at Georgetown.

549
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: The only thing I can say is love. He saved

550
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: my life, did y'all? I'm sure y'all had like hundreds

551
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: of talks. Is there anything that that really just stand out?

552
00:38:52,680 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: Something something that he said to you that just you tough? Okay,

553
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm a football player right here. I'm a football player.

554
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm better in football than I ever would be in basketball.

555
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: I swear to God, dog, I'm a football player. And

556
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: I remember we was in the weight room, and you know,

557
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: I ain't living no weights, so I'm just down there

558
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: just sitting, you know, sitting on the bench. And I

559
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: used to walk past like with with um our our

560
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: our school. You had to walk past the um the

561
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: football field to get to the gym, to the gym

562
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: and every time. I used to walk by and I

563
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: used to cry, you know what I mean, like to

564
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: where is? It? Got so fucked up with me. I

565
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't look in that direction, you know what I mean

566
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: to see the field. One day I went in the

567
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: motherfucker and I was like, coach, like, I'm thinking my

568
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: playing football, you little motherfucker. Don't you ever say anything

569
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: stupid like that to me ever again? You hear me, motherfucker.

570
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Damn coach, that's yo, the worst mouth ever, really, man, Coach,

571
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: I was terrible. Don't you ever come in here and

572
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: say no ship like that to me again? I get

573
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: the funk out of my face, like yo, And I

574
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: never thought about playing football ever again. I never thought

575
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: about playing football again. And that was my and and

576
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: that was my coach. And one more joint, one more joint.

577
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: This would make me feel like I was a superhero,

578
00:40:50,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: I swear to god. My man, um my teammates, was

579
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: in in the bathroom and all the coaches after the game,

580
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: they being you know, they huddle up at the games,

581
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: and they're be in the bathroom basically, so we can't

582
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: hear what the fun they're talking about. And my man

583
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: was shitting and he heard them talking and he came

584
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: out and told me. He was like, man, I was

585
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. They didn't know I was in there,

586
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: and Coach was just saying, that's a bad little motherfucker,

587
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And when he told me that,

588
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: and I knew that Coach thought that about me, play

589
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: the game the rest of it. I mean, it just

590
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: I felt like black Jesus. I felt like Mike, Like

591
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: I just felt like I was like, because somebody that

592
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: that you, yes, yes, you felt an obligation to not

593
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: let him down. No, it won't, it won't even that.

594
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: It just it like I already had the confidence in myself,

595
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: but you know, for my man telling me that you're

596
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: a bad motherfucker made you even bader. Motherfucker's my confidence

597
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: level like through the roof. And I was like, yo,

598
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: But he would never tell me that. He would never like,

599
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: he would never like he didn't tell me that until

600
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: it was over, you know what I mean. Then he

601
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: started telling me stuff that, you know what I mean, like,

602
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: m my motherfucking man dog. When I when I heard

603
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: that Coach Thompson died, I felt like I lost a

604
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: family member. And I never met Coach Thompson in my life.

605
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: But I know what he meant to you. I know

606
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: how close that y'all were, Like, where were you when

607
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: you found out that he died? Yeah, I uh just talked.

608
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: I just talked talked to Ronnie and he was telling

609
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: me like, you're just telling me the coach won't right.

610
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: You're telling him like I don't. You don't got maybe

611
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: a week and next morning, no, man, And I beat

612
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: myself up. I beat myself up and the ship because

613
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: I suppose he went there. I supposed it went there.

614
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: But I'm happy I ain't go you know what I mean,

615
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: because I don't want to see that. I didn't want

616
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: to see that ship. That was my my man. Man,

617
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: man saved my life, you know what I mean, Man

618
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: saved my life, he said, in my life. Did you

619
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: attend the funeral? Mm hmm. Great part about that, man.

620
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: Y'all got some good ass memories together. Man, you know

621
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: that's what life is all about, making new memories, making

622
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: memories and new memories. Bro. And he puts you, put

623
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: you in a position to provide for your entire family

624
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: and all that, all that, all that. Like my kids,

625
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they don't want for nothing.

626
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: I can you know what I mean. They don't even

627
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: get out academic scholarship or whatever. He's still going to college.

628
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like I fought for

629
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: this ship, man, Like I I full for this ship,

630
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then like just just

631
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: to be who I am, man, be legendary in this world,

632
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: like motherfucker called me a legend, Like that ship is

633
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: the coolest ship in the world, in the world, straight out,

634
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: straight out the motherfucker hood man from the mud. Man,

635
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm, I'm, I'm I want to be better.

636
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm I want to do more, Chip like I want

637
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: to I want to see what we're witnessing right now. Man,

638
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: is the reason why people funk with you. Bro. This

639
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: this is this is it, bro, Like this is why

640
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk to you. It's like Allen hell, yeah,

641
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like we gotta talk to

642
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: we gotta talk to you, you know uh. And I

643
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: think that that's one of the reasons why, one of

644
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: the big the biggest reason why so many people rallied

645
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: behind you anytime you got in a jam or whatever,

646
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: any time that you was facing any type of you know,

647
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: misfortune or whatever. It was just people just was always

648
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: in in in high hopes. Man, But it's boomerang. Is

649
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: ship is boomerang? Like you think that I don't feel

650
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: the same way, the same the sentiments you're giving me.

651
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: Like I feel the same way like I grew up.

652
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I grew up off y'all, you know what I mean.

653
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: And then this is a fucking honor to me, Like

654
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: this is bucket list ship for me, you know what

655
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I get a chance. I got a

656
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: chance to go and tell my homeboys, even if they

657
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: don't see this, like this, I did podcast with the

658
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: ghetto boys. Like I get it. I get it, like

659
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I get it. I get a chance to do this,

660
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: this bucket list ship for me. This is where I

661
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: grew up, idolizing. Yo, I grew up idolizing, y'all, you

662
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then look where I'm at.

663
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: You tell me, God don't love me, man, beautiful ship,

664
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: beautiful with something else that was on your bucket list.

665
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm wondering if this was on your bucket

666
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: list when you was MC jews. You know, like you

667
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: get sorry, man, I don't do that. And and the

668
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: only reason I was doing that is because my homeboys

669
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: wanted to get on that. So that wasn't was that

670
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: a bucket list thing or it's just something you know,

671
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: just my my homeboys wanted to they was they was rappers,

672
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he I mean, that's raw,

673
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I did that. I

674
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: did that for them, for my homeboys business doing that.

675
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: But you know, but you know, well, I guess it

676
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: wasn't something that you was passionate about. So you wouldn't

677
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: have missed it in life if you had not done

678
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: it right now and and and then and then at

679
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: the same time, like it cost me a whole bunch

680
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: of problems, like caused me a problems if relationships up. Wow,

681
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he was doing business

682
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: with your homies. Yea, that ship right there, like doing

683
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: business with your homeboys, and then you love them motherfucker's.

684
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: Like like one of the worst feelings in the world

685
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: is when one of you motherfucker's that you love ship

686
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: on you like a motherfucking I mean sand box motherfucker's

687
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: Like motherfucker's I'm talking about sandbox. Like yeah, and everybody listen, everybody,

688
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: it's fucked up. When it's fucked up, when you turn

689
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: into scarface opposed to Brad Jordan's. It's fucked up. It's

690
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: fucked up when you go from being chucked and motherfucker

691
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 1: loves some fucking chuck and then all of a sudden

692
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: the AI ship and that's family members, everybody. You know

693
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, don't you still love Bubba Chuck man?

694
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But when that fucking money

695
00:49:52,040 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: you get involved jack money, Yeah, money catalyst for a

696
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of between everything, friends, family, friends,

697
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: that ship. Don't mix cold things for his people though,

698
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. His partners, Yeah, but sent

699
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: them to school to go be in some business. Listen, listen,

700
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: he's a he's a bad motherfucker. He's a smart motherfucker.

701
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: But at the same time, your motherfuckers smart. Yes, I know,

702
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: I say, I know all of my know math, I know,

703
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: I know rich Man, I know Randy, all his homeboys,

704
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: his mama, Mama glow All. I'm smart all them and

705
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: and and and they, and they capitalized off of his greatness, man,

706
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: instead of trying to go be rappers. That that's why,

707
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: that's that's why I'm That's why I subscribe to the

708
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: theory of being able to do business with family and friends,

709
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: because if you really think about it, most of the

710
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: people that got money like loan money, has been having

711
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: generational wealth and even a lot of the people that's

712
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: getting new money. Uh that if you look, if you

713
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: look at all the groups, the White Flag, Asian whatever,

714
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: these people do business with their family members and they

715
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: do business with their friends. Well, it's just that it's

716
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of time for us, we're not

717
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: as discerning. We just automatically take yeah, because you know,

718
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: we're not as picky, you careful with our choices that

719
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: we make with them. Wh who were gonna who are

720
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: gonna put We just automatically that's my homie here, that's

721
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: my sister, that's my brother. No, you know what I'm saying. No,

722
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: they got, they got They have to have some damn

723
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: scruples about themselves. They got to be qualified able to

724
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: do it exactly. And they and they expected they back

725
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: you you, They expect you to do it for them

726
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: because they're them. Just give it to him, right, man.

727
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: If you earn, if you earn your if you earn it,

728
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: then then you got it. But I can't let you

729
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: run my business and you're driving dump trucks all your like,

730
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: Come on, happen. My motherucking man told me. I said, Man,

731
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: he gonna run the company. Man, he gonna do this.

732
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He qualified? Man, why he

733
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: got a job. He doing this over here? The funk

734
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: you mean he's qualified to do it? You're not. You

735
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: just want the position because we grew up together. Mm hmm. Yeah.

736
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: If you ever want to funk yourself up, put in you.

737
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: I grew up with this name in your business. If

738
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 1: you want to be sorry, you got criticized a lot

739
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: for looking after your family and friends, you know, and

740
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: still and still gonna do it for I'm gonna do

741
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: it forever. I'm gonna do it forever. When when when

742
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: you hear but when you hear stuff like that, when

743
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: you hear people saying like, man, man, you could have

744
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: been a lot further. You know, you could be doing this. Woman, Yeah,

745
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing this or whatever. Whatever. You know,

746
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: how do you reconcile that worry about you? Motherfucker, worry

747
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: about you. I'm good, Yeah, me and my family straight,

748
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: we're good, and I'm and I and I can be better,

749
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be better. Don't worry about me, Jack,

750
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: don't worry about me. Man, Love me, man, hug me,

751
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: that me up. You know what I mean? All that

752
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: other ship, man, keep my personal business out your motherfucking

753
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: mine out your head. Get it out your head, man,

754
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We are right over here.

755
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: We are right over here. I'm over here doing the

756
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: podcast with Willie D and Scarface. I'm I'm over here

757
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: with Brad Jordan's I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm gonna get

758
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: on that plane. I'm gonna go home to that woman

759
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: and i'm kids and kiss them and love them and

760
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: eat real good and and and love on them and

761
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: go out later on the night. Man. Whatever, man, you

762
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: know what I mean. My my, my fans, I'm gonna

763
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: be with them. I'm gonna keep posting on Instagram so

764
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: they can see me being cool. I'm gonna do this

765
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: right here and whatever. Man, I'm gonna live my motherfucking life.

766
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. And you worry about yours, man,

767
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: you worry my joy and and and into any hated motherfucker.

768
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: I love you, brother or sister. I love you. Hey, man,

769
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: how are you doing. He's like, all right, okay, because

770
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: I ain't worried about nothing but the fact that you

771
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: all right. That's all I care about. Hey, you all right?

772
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: God bless you, love you. That's it. I ain't got

773
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: time for no negative punk ass ship, no sucker ass,

774
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: nowhere near positive ass ship in life. Man, live laugh,

775
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: take love, man, Yeah, take energy, live laugh love man,

776
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: do that. Concentrate on that. Man. I always wondered, like, well,

777
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: like when you first got to Philadelphia, the city was yours.

778
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Everybody was, man, Hey, I it's love. Initially you had

779
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: a Did you ever have a good report with Coach Brown? Initially? No?

780
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: Not not so not even day one. He was trying

781
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: to get you to change your style, you know, change

782
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: he was trying to get he was. No, hell no,

783
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: he didn't. Just didn't understand. He didn't understand. I'm hip

784
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: hop dude, I'm a I mean, I'm I'm We're from

785
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: two different parts of the world, you know what I mean.

786
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: So he did not try to get you to change

787
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: your image. No, clean up your image, because you you changed,

788
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: you changed the end be a. He didn't. He was,

789
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: he was. He was trying to get me. He was

790
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: trying to get me to become who I am now.

791
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: God damn, that's what he was doing. Basically, that's my

792
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: motherfucking man, that's my man. I love him to death. Wow,

793
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: so so well, when did the turning point come? Two

794
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: thousand and one? You're a bad motherfucker. Do you know

795
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: what you're doing? You're a bad dude? Two thousand and one.

796
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: I think I made the um two thousand because they

797
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: was gonna trade my ass, and because I couldn't. I

798
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: thought that he was um criticize, criticizing me, and I

799
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: couldn't except um constructive criticism. And then when I found

800
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: when I started to realize that he just loved me

801
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: and wanted what's best for me and the team, then

802
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: that's when I turned from Allen Iverson a good basketball

803
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: player to a Hall of fame. On the night of

804
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: the draft, did you think you were gonna go number one?

805
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: Did you? Did you do? But I ain't know? You know,

806
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: you know how it is with us A you're thinking

807
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: some bullshit gonna jump off? You know what I mean?

808
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: I knew, but I ain't know. And that had to

809
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: be uh crazy feeling man like and just one of

810
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: the best feels out there. We drafted number one in

811
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: the NBA. That's that had to be some damn feeling. Man.

812
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: And when it happened, when the announcement came down, man,

813
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's crazy Thord Willie like and

814
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: then this ain't no cocky ship, man, I know. Can't

815
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: nobody funk with me? Like I knew that, like I

816
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: knew man, and and everybody in the d have knew it,

817
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: and everybody and all the fans knew it, and all

818
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: and and and and all the organizations they knew it.

819
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: Like who else was in that draft? Like just just

820
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: we had the greatest draft ever. What are some of

821
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: the names we would immediately record? Kobe was thirteen, so

822
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna do We're gonna do it like that. He

823
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: was thirteen years no, yes, all right, So that lets

824
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: you know how crazy the draft was if Kobe got

825
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: to be If he thirteen, then you already know how

826
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: crazy the draft is. But Kobe was coming out of

827
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: high school though, what you mean, let's comeing out of

828
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: high school. They didn't, they didn't. They didn't really scout

829
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: him like that, did they he did? I don't know how.

830
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how they didn't because if I was

831
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: the seventy sixers, I would have picked them. Oh ship, huh,

832
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: I would not have took Chuck Man just if I

833
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: was so. You were so he was well aware kobe

834
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: skill set. No, I ain't know then, shit, I ain't

835
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: know that. The Lakers didn't know how cold Kobe was, Willie,

836
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: because they let Edie Eddie Jones and Nick Van ex

837
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: So started that ship. They did, and Nick was the guard. Kobe,

838
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: uh Jones was the shooting guard. And man, when adn't

839
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: let Kobe get off that motherfucking bench, I took it.

840
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: It took it. It took a minute. I remember when

841
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: Kobe was shout at that air ball and ship and

842
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: uh no that was that was all right? No, no, no,

843
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: that that was all Star. He shot at the air

844
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: ball in the All Star Game, you know, like he

845
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: was really trying to challenge uh Mike and all that stuff,

846
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: and uh coach shout a ball. He was, but he

847
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: just had that apter like he was fearless. Man, I'm

848
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: shooting the ball anyway, I'm shot this same man, and man,

849
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: Kobe is the baddest motherfucker on two feet to me,

850
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: bro Over, I'm just saying his Mike and Kobe is

851
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: like the same otherfucking to me, Oh Man, black Jesus,

852
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: Black Jesus and the black Mamba, the black Mamba. You

853
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: goddamn right better even alone, say man, ship Man, and

854
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: on and on both ends stone, both ends. Yes, the

855
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: way you know he patted his style after exactly that's

856
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: why you got it in Like then, Mike, then if

857
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: you if you ask Kobe who was the best, he

858
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: would say, Mike, I'll give hi, Mike. I got Kobe

859
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: and Mike neck and neck. Even if I stole my

860
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: rap style from you, I'm gonna kill you with your

861
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: own style. Bro oh ship and Kobe killed Mike with

862
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: his own ship. You like so you do me and

863
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: I do you. You don't want to funk with me

864
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: what I left my neighborhood. I don't give a funk

865
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: when I left my neighborhood to make this big break,

866
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: I promised my road dog said, I dedicate a super

867
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: jam to the hood that is sharp as a sickle.

868
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: So here it is fifth Ward, better known as the

869
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: Nickel Willie, I'll fuck you up with your own ship.

870
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: That's Willie. Hey. Look, hey, look, Alice, Hey, this is

871
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: my life. This is my life. What I get, motherfucker,

872
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: look what I get? Come on, man, come on. So

873
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: so that was really ship. I was just reck really

874
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: with his own ship and and and and and and

875
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: got a bad bitch in every state. Yeah, but I

876
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: really can't say that like me, it ain't gonna work.

877
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: But Kobe did Mike to the point, I hold on,

878
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: I ain't supposed to use that because my old lady

879
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: gonna say that. I just said that off big dog status.

880
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: Take that shot, you know it just played it for

881
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: that nothing. Take that whatever that is. We will will

882
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: that right now, take it out. But I can just

883
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: I can tell her I was wrapping your song. Yeah,

884
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: but I was just wrapping really ship. But but Kobe

885
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 1: did Mike, in my opinion, better than Mike did Mike.

886
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: Not better then, but just as good as Mike did.

887
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: Mike Man Kobe, Mike and Kobe and then Lebron for me,

888
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: and then and then and then Steph and shot. You

889
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: know what is a bad motherfucker that don't get his props.

890
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: He don't get credit like he's supposed to. I'll give

891
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: I wanted the best. But yeah, but all the big

892
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: all the big men say that though, Yeah, but why

893
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: he ain't in that list? The big men? Though? What

894
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: you mean when people were like when people just talking

895
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: in general, they seldom mentioned you want to kill all

896
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: of the big centers and shack my black shack don't

897
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: want nothing, no parts of Elijah one. And that's my daughter.

898
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: It's Elijah one, and there's a larger one, and then

899
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: it's all the rest of the month along. It's uh,

900
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: who else? Right? The Admiral, he don't want none here

901
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: in the top five. He still don't want none. Patrick,

902
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: you want you don't want none. I ain't saying I'm

903
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: just naming a little longly damn show it on. Don't know,

904
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: you can't put him in that man? You know what

905
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: you can fest of all? You gotta mention the You

906
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: gotta mention Bill Bill Russell. Man, you can't. You don't

907
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: want none, but that Bill Russell is. That's like if

908
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: you want to say the best, then if you want

909
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: to say the best basketball player ever stat wise, we

910
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: gotta say, man, what was playing with a little short

911
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: white guys? It's a difference. No, we can't just go

912
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: on the stats. We we you got to look at

913
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: the competition level. Elijah one is the baddest center on too.

914
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: Had to play against the baddest centers and then you

915
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: can't forget about Big Mo. Mo was crazy. Was the

916
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: funny as dude to man. Love that love you Mo.

917
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, my brother, sir, Yes, yes, sir, moment alone.

918
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: That's my dog. Yeah, great, goddamn guy for real Virginia Natives.

919
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm right, hey, Alan, when you left uh Philadelphia, you know,

920
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean, did you feel unappreciated? You know when they

921
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: when they traded you, all right, when you went to them,

922
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: they they didn't. They weren't trying to. I can't, I can't.

923
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to say this. I don't want to say.

924
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to say I don't want

925
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: to say what they were doing. But they weren't doing

926
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: what was right. So I was happy when Alan. When

927
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: Alan left Philadelphia, the focus shifted from Philadelphia to the Nuggets.

928
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: You know that the Nuggets was fucking feared. Nobody wanted

929
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: to see. We just couldn't get bad. So yeah, we

930
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: couldn't get past Mamba and and and um Tim Duncan

931
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: like we was bad. We couldn't. We couldn't do nothing

932
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: with them them dudes, who did y'all have at at

933
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: at Center? Marcus Camby, Huh fuck? We was bad, y'all

934
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 1: as bad as cant at the four mellow at three,

935
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: as bad as motherfucker. We just couldn't with the giants. Man,

936
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: We couldn't sunk with them, do them dudes? Is we

937
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: was well? Coach that I was just want to say,

938
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: but we was going against Pop and we was going

939
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: against Mamma and Shank like we lost those two years

940
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: and then that's when the bullshit happened. I went to mother.

941
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: I thought going to Detroit was gonna be the greatest

942
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna be playing with being big being. I

943
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: mean no, no, what's being at had to be? Man. Look,

944
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: I love them dudes, and I'm still cool with with

945
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: with them dudes. Man, they didn't want to see Chauncey

946
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: League and I love chaunce That's my that's my homeboy.

947
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: Them dudes ain't want to see Chauncey gold Man. It

948
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: won't right. Like when I got the call that morning,

949
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was the greatest situation ever for me

950
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: to win a championship, you know what I mean. But

951
01:06:54,440 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: obviously me and ripped with two guys so you gotta

952
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: play me at the point, and you gotta play you

953
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: gotta play Ripped at the two. But they wanted they

954
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: was invested in Stucky. Yeah, like that was that was

955
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: the old because we was getting our ass whip because

956
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: we had to start um Tay Shawn at the four

957
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: and Sheet at the five. Rip was at the three.

958
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: I was at the two, and Stucky was at the one.

959
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: And they didn't they was invested in and Stucky, you

960
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then Motherucker's telling me, I

961
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: would never tell you to come off the bench, and

962
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: this is that in the third and it was a lie.

963
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: We stepped away from the game in two thousand teen.

964
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you was team I'm tripping when you stepped

965
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: away from the game in that year, whatever year it

966
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: was in that year, when you stepped away from the game,

967
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure like before you ever step away from the game,

968
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: you start getting closer to that time and then you're

969
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: thinking in your head, Okay, I gotta transition when it's

970
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: gonna come. Was there a lot of anxiety that like

971
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: like when I leave basketball, like damn, what am I

972
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna do? I was ready, he was already ready, ready,

973
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: ready to go. Um. I knew she was sucked up.

974
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: When I went to Detroit and I couldn't have my number.

975
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: Like I got off the plane. You know, Stucky was like, man,

976
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: I'm I'm give you the number, you know what I mean?

977
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: And I got off the plane and um, the David

978
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: Stern he um, Kobe changed his number from eight four.

979
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: So when I um, and I guess he just funck

980
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: money up for the NBA, you know the number changed

981
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: his number and you know what I mean. And I couldn't.

982
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't get I couldn't change my number. So I

983
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: had to wear one. And I knew, yeah, and I

984
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: knew it was fucked up, like even though I wore

985
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: it when I was little, Like every time I put

986
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: my jersey on, like she didn't feel right. You know

987
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm number three, but what what was

988
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: there any significance to the number three? My high school

989
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: coach game? So and then hold on another George sound story. Um,

990
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,520
Speaker 1: I remember, um, we had our first game at Georgetown

991
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: and I went in my locker and I had him

992
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: a fifteen and I was like, coach, you know my number,

993
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: it's three, you know what I mean? He was like

994
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: motherfucker around here, we give you you know the number

995
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: we want to give you. You know what I mean.

996
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk you think you're doing,

997
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I went, um, we

998
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: had shoot around, I went back to my dorm, came

999
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: back for the game. Number three was in the lock

1000
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: Listen man. Coach. Coach John Thompson seemed to have an

1001
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: affection for the word motherfucker. Is that why you say

1002
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker so much? Man? He that's that? That's yeah, that's

1003
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: my that's my name. Like he said that to me, like,

1004
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: your name is motherfucker and prodigal prodigal sign? Yeah? Is

1005
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: that is that? It is that it prodigal sign, prodicle, Yeah,

1006
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: motherfucker and prodigal song. That is that was my name?

1007
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: That That is funny as here. Man. We'll get on

1008
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: the phone. We'll get on the phone and and and

1009
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: what's up, coach. I just want to just call you

1010
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: a motherfucker and tell you I love you. Boom like

1011
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: them coach, my man, uh my man, do you have

1012
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: a foundation? No talking about coolball? I mean basketball. I

1013
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: don't know no coaching why because it's hard to tell

1014
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: a momus k coach. He's one of the greatest to

1015
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: do it. Great players can I just, I just, I just.

1016
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: Great players don't make good coaches. No man, A motherfucker

1017
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: that um, I don't think a mother sucker like you.

1018
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: Gotta be a bad motherfucker to be a coach. Coach,

1019
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: football coach make way more money than you, you know

1020
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. And you gotta get them to listen

1021
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: to you and and and believe in in in your

1022
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: strategy and your you know everything. You gotta man to

1023
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: be a coach in the NBA. You gotta be a

1024
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: bad motherfucker. Man. But abud in high school, I would

1025
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: go back to my high school and coach. They coach

1026
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: high school. Man, I don't have I don't. I don't

1027
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: have the patience. I don't have a patience. You ain't

1028
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: doing what are you doing? You mean? I take care

1029
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: of my kids and that's I and I'll hang with

1030
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: my homeboys. I ain't even I ain't live my life.

1031
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: I had that that that that right there is too

1032
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: much and it's an obligation and it's you gotta give

1033
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 1: everything and I ain't and I know I can't. I

1034
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: ain't depriving nobody or nothing. Man, I'm not doing that. Ship.

1035
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think great. Can you can

1036
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: you name a great player, was a good coach? You can't,

1037
01:12:53,960 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: you can't. I can't. Uh Jason Kids, Jason kid fantastic?

1038
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: Uh Jackson Bill Jackson fucking fantastic because he was no

1039
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: fucking great player. He wasn't no great player. But he's

1040
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: a great we're talking about. We just said you you

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Speaker 1: said great player. He wasn't no great, He was not

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01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: no great. Hold on, hold on, will James Kidd j

1043
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: D j As the kidd, don't sucking uh man, man,

1044
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: let me talk bro Listen, what's the kid named uh

1045
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: that play with get his medicine? No, no, he gave

1046
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: the kid, he gave it. He gave the team to

1047
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: cur They took the team from Jackson was a badass player, Willie.

1048
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson was a bad player. But I don't think

1049
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson was a great player. He was a good player,

1050
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't great. Don't say that. I love that, man.

1051
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: What about Rudy Tom sign of a huh, Rudy Tom

1052
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: sign of a bitch? You know what, I think Rudy

1053
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: was nice. I think talking great out It was not great.

1054
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: He was not great. He was good. Okay, well Patrick,

1055
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: you perhaps Patrick Ewing and I'm done. Yeah, you got it,

1056
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: you got that one. Not not a good coach though,

1057
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: we done, we finished. I'm just saying, man, you know,

1058
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: suggestive anyway, right, it's all suggestive anyway, right, man, Hey,

1059
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: look my Georgetown dude. Man shout out the Pat Many

1060
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: Pat coach. Yeah he can, he can. Hell yeah, tell

1061
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: us a story about Pat. And when y'all play, tell

1062
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: you I got it, I got I got crazy stories

1063
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: all right, um, Pat, we're playing them, were playing the Knicks.

1064
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: Motherfucker said who got me tonight? Chuck said, Scott Scott

1065
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: win fifty. That's what he said to me? Who said that?

1066
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: That said that when you're playing with the Knicks and

1067
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 1: you playing with it, he said, who guard me? I said,

1068
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: Scott whim fifty and win and got it? Yeah? Hey,

1069
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: did you have a you have a punch? Don't Pat

1070
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: slammed on his last Who you slam down? That would

1071
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: be like, damn, did you slam on Barkley? Mm hmm,

1072
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: fuck you slam on nobody? Good? Huh, terrible, man, you

1073
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: are awful. I ain't gonna say I ain't gonna I

1074
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say. I ain't gonna say who I did.

1075
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: Don't you they know, walk us through the day that

1076
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: you crossed up who many people believe is the goat,

1077
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: even yourself when you crossed up Michael Jordan's I can

1078
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: tell you what happened? How was how was that? Like?

1079
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: When that happened? And let me start let me started

1080
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: off think about it. He started off. So here's a

1081
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: high wind, like they was trying to see each other

1082
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: for the first time. Man, why are you screaming? Bro

1083
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this moment because I was one of

1084
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: the one of like, oh ship man, hey the answer?

1085
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: What did they called them? Like? It was like Alan

1086
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: was the answer. They was always looking for somebody to

1087
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: tell Jordan and said they were like as an answer man, tonight,

1088
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: Jordan getting ready, Jordan and Ivison going to go head up.

1089
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: And when Alan touched the ball, everybody in the house

1090
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: stand up like, oh ship and we waited and he

1091
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: hit it at boop boop, and Jordan was over here.

1092
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: And then we make this part up that he was like, yeah,

1093
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: they come here. He got back in front of win

1094
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: boo boo boom. He was over here. And join was

1095
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: over there and he damn the failed No, the motherfucker

1096
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: almost blocked the ship. Still that's how nice he was. Yeah,

1097
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: he's still almost blocked it. We see that, you kin.

1098
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: You know you really kind of sucking up moves and ship. Man, Really,

1099
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: I know you the last month in this world to

1100
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: be talking about the way you be hogging. What's wrong

1101
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: with hogging? Look, I'm gonna just say this right here

1102
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: because I want to on this podcast. I sucked your

1103
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: crossover up. I know I did. Man, Look what that's

1104
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: That's the last person I want to see. But still

1105
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to look at him. He looks from

1106
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: two thirty three years. I do not want to look

1107
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 1: at him. Understand, just understand where I'm coming from. That

1108
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: ship loyalty and love. That ship have no love and

1109
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: no loyalty for me. Yeah, yeah, why are you here?

1110
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: We're just here. We just heard see because I'm gonna

1111
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: tell you something broke, Like this guy is incorrigible. I mean,

1112
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 1: he's just a very difficult person to deal with, and

1113
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, like and it's always super bad when he

1114
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: doesn't take his medicine. When he don't get his medication. Ship,

1115
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: who knows. I don't know how. We don't know how

1116
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna turn out. Man, Bro, that's so fucking wrong. Bro. Yeah,

1117
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: I just thought that I could be honest with And

1118
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't even take medicine. You don't take it anymore?

1119
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: This ship? Bro? What other business ventures that you pursuing

1120
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: that you can talk? Man, I'm a man. That ain't

1121
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: what I do. That ain't what I that. That ain't

1122
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 1: that ain't what I do. Um Um getting ready to

1123
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 1: um do a couple of restaurants and franchise Scratch in Atlanta,

1124
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 1: so food. I'm me. You know what's so fool all

1125
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: that all that ship that we don't supposed to do,

1126
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: all that ship that we don't supposed to love it?

1127
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: I want to buy into that too. Yeah, I'm I'm

1128
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: man and and I'm i'm um. We got new owners

1129
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: at Rebook. You know what I mean? You still have

1130
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: a contract with Hell are you talking about? You ain't

1131
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: going nowhere? Yeah? You change that going away? You know

1132
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: what you Let me tell you. I love money, man,

1133
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: I love money. I love it, you know what I mean?

1134
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: I love it? And and these motherfucker's are the most

1135
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: loyal people to Dog because they realized and they understand

1136
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: that I didn't make them because it was reboked before me.

1137
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: But they got loyalty to me because they know what

1138
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: I did for them. I said, you didn't make them,

1139
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: but she pretty much saved him. I don't know, I

1140
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: don't don't don't no, I don't know what what Lebron

1141
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: Lebron came in and took over. Um. But before that,

1142
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: when the when them kicks, it was me and Mike.

1143
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: That was it. He was number one always and I

1144
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: was number two. Now where I'm at now, I don't know,

1145
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: but the road to ship is still with it. Hey,

1146
01:20:51,479 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: how old are your boys? Twenty five eighteen eight team?

1147
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: They ever played sports? They get it. Let's leave that

1148
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: one out here. Let's leave out I talked about my girl,

1149
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: and I talked about my mom, talk about my youngest son,

1150
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: my eighteen year maybe hooping. I would no can playing football?

1151
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Hey, look the mics alive, so you know

1152
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: what I say? Yeah, keep that ship too. It's like

1153
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: when I said that, so up, I will dude off camera.

1154
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: So what do your girls do? Model one of them

1155
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: as a model, one of them a fashion designer, and

1156
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: the little one of Hooper and they both roped and

1157
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: they rob They robbed you blind up for sure. I

1158
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: know about the live girl, but don't forget dum. I

1159
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: want to I want to tell you about that off

1160
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: camera because Dr Mix is live. We'll wait till love camera. Yeah.

1161
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: How often do you go back to Virginia and and

1162
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: your people all the time? Yeah? I love my family.

1163
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: I can't stand being home was born and then, um,

1164
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: it costs too much. Oh yeah, he's on something. Yeah, man,

1165
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: I was looking at this brand new Lexus man ship

1166
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: costs him one. When you go down, when you go

1167
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: back to you make sure you got cash. No, hey, hey, Cay,

1168
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: you hear what he's saying. What'd you tell me? Don't

1169
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: go down there with no damn cash? Hell no, you

1170
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: got a card? Yeah? I just got my card, man,

1171
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: that's it. I just got my choice. I love it. Man. Well,

1172
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you coming of y'all do and and

1173
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: and and then y'all let me get certain shoot off

1174
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: my chest, you know, for my fans. Yeah, you know,

1175
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 1: to know the dude is all right in a good space.

1176
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: I love he went to Ghetto Boys with the he

1177
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: Man and it's just good to see you doing good. Bro,

1178
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: and it's and it's always, it's always one thousand percent

1179
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: love when we see each other, even if we ain't

1180
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: talked to you since he was in New York at

1181
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: the damn uh yeah I know it was you. Yeah, yeah,

1182
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: he know me. He was in my room. How long

1183
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: ago was this? I was before? Is this what Maul

1184
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: was there? Right? Guys had to be like what five six, seven,

1185
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: seven years? Maybe seven years ago? This is when the

1186
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: other half of him left? Yeah, like nik, that's face,

1187
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: Like you know, I ain't you say that. I walked

1188
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: by you and you said the mall yo, the motherfucker

1189
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: all at me and then mall told me. I was like, man,

1190
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was him? Yeah, yes, wow, yes

1191
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: yeah man. And I thank y'all man, No, I thank

1192
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: you Bro, Thank y'all. Man, I thank y'all. This I

1193
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: can't wait and I want I can't wait to see it.

1194
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait for my family to see it. You

1195
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I appreciate y'all. Man. Well, we

1196
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: ain't got none but the ultimate love and respect for you,

1197
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: really am and bro, and you did ship talking motherfucker

1198
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: for me today? Did you do it today or because

1199
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: I listened to it on the way of it. It

1200
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: was a couple of days ago. Yeah yeah, and I

1201
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: you know, miss I don't know, you know what I mean,

1202
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: because because because I love all parties like I love

1203
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: I love all parties. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1204
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: I love all parties. So man, we love you all

1205
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: like you you're You're appreciate you a real superhero to us,

1206
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Hey, Alan Iverson, a real Black Chuck,

1207
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: real black superhero. This episode was produced by A King

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01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: and brought to you by The Black Effect Podcast Network

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01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio.