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Speaker 3: dot com. There was actually a crazy crash that happened
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. Let's go ahead and put some of the
Speaker 3: video up there on the screen as I talk over it,
Speaker 3: so you can see there were these insane ring camera
Speaker 3: videos that were coming out that are just showing a
Speaker 3: major fireball that erupted literally as a crash, as this plane,
Speaker 3: small plane carrying six passengers actually literally crash there in
Speaker 3: the middle of the See the emergency.
Speaker 1: Lights, the fires that were all happening.
Speaker 3: This is a particularly insane one because he's standing out
Speaker 3: there and he literally happens right outside of his front door.
Speaker 3: You can see the fireball that was right behind him.
Speaker 3: Absolutely terrifying. What we know about the crash so far
Speaker 3: is it's a little weird some of the details, so
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go ahead and read them to
Speaker 3: some of you. So they've named the crew and there
Speaker 3: was actually a patient. It was an air ambulance in
Speaker 3: the northeastern Philadelphia area, so it was a medical jet
Speaker 3: and it was including a girl from Mexico who had
Speaker 3: received treatment for life threatening illness. But it plummeted to
Speaker 3: the ground in Northeast Philly, causing obviously a massive explosion,
Speaker 3: killing everybody on board and at least one person who
Speaker 3: was on the ground. We don't know anything else. What
Speaker 3: we basically know is that they left Northeast Philadelphia Airport.
Speaker 3: It was headed for Springfield Branson National Airport, stopping in
Speaker 3: Missouri before eventually traveling to its final destination of Tijuana, Mexico.
Speaker 3: The girl was returning to Mexico after receiving treat in
Speaker 3: the United States, and the victims of the crash are
Speaker 3: the captain as well as several other Mexican nationals. So
Speaker 3: definitely a tragedy. And still some open questions as to
Speaker 3: what the hell was happening. You know, with all of this,
Speaker 3: can we put the next one please up on the screen.
Speaker 3: Just read some of the details out that I was
Speaker 3: talking about. It's called a quote unquote angel flight en
Speaker 3: route to Mexico. All of the occupants were Mexican nationals.
Speaker 3: Plane was headed to Tijuana. So still some major stuff.
Speaker 2: There, but a number of injuries in the areas too,
Speaker 2: just because of it, which this major urban area, which
Speaker 2: is you know, between that and then the fact that
Speaker 2: I had just come on the heels of this horrific
Speaker 2: crash in DC is why true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot why everyone's paying attention, I mean rightfully,
Speaker 3: right yeah, this is the people are on edge.
Speaker 1: People are afraid to fly.
Speaker 3: And Donald Trump addressed some of the crash on Thursday,
Speaker 3: blaming DEI as I'm sure we'll talk about it afterwards.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 4: You can't have regular people doing that job. They won't
Speaker 4: be able to do it. But we'll restore faith. American
Speaker 4: air traveler have more to say about that. I do
Speaker 4: want to point out that various articles that appeared prior
Speaker 4: to my entering office. And here's one. The FAA's diversity
Speaker 4: push includes focus on hiring people with severe intellectual and
Speaker 4: psychiatric disabilities. That is amazing. And then it says FAA
Speaker 4: says people with severe disabilities the most underrepresented segment of
Speaker 4: the workforce, and they want them in, and they want
Speaker 4: them they can be air traffic controllers. I don't think so.
Speaker 5: This was.
Speaker 4: In January fourteenth, so that was a week before I
Speaker 4: entered office. They put a big push to put diversity
Speaker 4: into the FAA's program.
Speaker 1: On DEI and the claims that you've made.
Speaker 6: Are you saying this crash was somehow caused and the
Speaker 6: result of diversity hiring, and what evidence have you seen
Speaker 6: to support these plans?
Speaker 4: It could have been. We have a high standard. We've
Speaker 4: had a much higher standard than anybody else. And there
Speaker 4: are things where you have to go by brain power,
Speaker 4: you have to go by psychological equality, and psychological quality
Speaker 4: is a very important element of it. These are various,
Speaker 4: very powerful tests that we put to use, and they
Speaker 4: were terminated by Biden, and Biden went by a standard
Speaker 4: that's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: So there we owe from Trump. I was watching it live.
Speaker 3: I was telling Crystal Wise and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: he's really He's really going to do it, isn't he?
Speaker 1: And they immediately starts pulling out d articles.
Speaker 3: My personal favorite was a response to that question whenever
Speaker 3: he's like, so, do you have any indication that it
Speaker 3: was DEI and he's.
Speaker 1: Like not at this time, we don't, So Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: there we go. That's trump.
Speaker 3: Let's put some of the details up here on the
Speaker 3: screen about the crash, because this is what's actually important.
Speaker 3: Where we are learning a couple of things. Number one
Speaker 3: is that the helicopter, it seems, was not flying at
Speaker 3: the correct height.
Speaker 1: Now there's various reasons for that.
Speaker 3: It could be that the screen the air traffic controller
Speaker 3: was incorrect, it could be an instrumentation malfunction on the
Speaker 3: helicopter itself. It could be a communication era between the
Speaker 3: two that is currently under investigation. But the most important
Speaker 3: thing that we have learned is that FAA short short
Speaker 3: shortage of staffing in the tower had one person doing
Speaker 3: the job of two, and what they said is that
Speaker 3: the helicopter was flying outside of its flight path and
Speaker 3: that air traffic controller was juggling two jobs at the
Speaker 3: same time and was unable to keep the helicopter and
Speaker 3: the plane separated.
Speaker 1: It does seem crystal that this has.
Speaker 3: Been going on for years now at Reagan National Airport,
Speaker 3: that they have had a major shortage in air traffic control,
Speaker 3: and we have also learned of a previous close call
Speaker 3: incident between a helicopter and a plane. So unfortunately, just
Speaker 3: seems like it was a matter of time. Two crowded airport,
Speaker 3: not a non air traffic control.
Speaker 1: Again, the helicopter thing, I still can't get over.
Speaker 3: I have no idea why they are constantly doing helicopter
Speaker 3: training exercises over one of the most crowded, busiest, and
Speaker 3: difficult airports landing in.
Speaker 1: The entire United States. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: I've been landing there from my entire adult lives, as
Speaker 3: I moved to Washington, DC when I was eighteen.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 3: It's probably better that we didn't know, but now you know.
Speaker 3: They suspended the flights luckily, but it just it's like,
Speaker 3: how much does this happen in all over the country?
Speaker 2: Completely insane. I had no idea same that this was
Speaker 2: a thing that happened, and it seems completely insane. A
Speaker 2: lot of conspiracy theorists are making a lot of the
Speaker 2: fact that the helicopter, Pete Hegseth, our Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth said, was on a continuation of government training mission.
Speaker 3: But that is a little weird, right, So what is
Speaker 3: that content? Continuity of government mission?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: You know, for what purpose? What were you doing flying
Speaker 3: in the middle.
Speaker 6: I'm with you on that one. I'm with you on
Speaker 6: that one.
Speaker 2: But the factors that we know, so first of all, nationwide,
Speaker 2: there's a massive air traffic controller shortage, some three thousand
Speaker 2: air traffic controllers we are short on. There's an airport
Speaker 2: in the Bay Area that about to have zero air
Speaker 2: traffic controllers very close to San Francisco, not actual SFO,
Speaker 2: but a smaller airport nearby.
Speaker 6: This is a crisis.
Speaker 2: Because you can see potentially the results here because what
Speaker 2: happened at Reagan is that, like you said, Zager, for years,
Speaker 2: they've been operating in this shorthanded position where one person
Speaker 2: has been doing the job of two, having to both
Speaker 2: direct the passenger jets in and also manage the helicopter traffic.
Speaker 2: I mean, that seems that's insane, but they were only
Speaker 2: doing it only they shouldn't be doing it at all, okay,
Speaker 2: but they were forced into this situation for a shortage.
Speaker 2: They were doing it after nine thirty PM, because that's
Speaker 2: when the traffic really starts to ease up. On this
Speaker 2: particular evening, the supervisor had allowed someone to leave early
Speaker 2: so that the one man band situation began much earlier
Speaker 2: in the evening, So the crash occurred just before nine pm.
Speaker 6: This should have been a time when.
Speaker 2: Typically they would have had two people in, you know,
Speaker 2: each doing one job, so that was unusual.
Speaker 6: Then you also had, as you.
Speaker 2: Mentioned, the helicopter flying above its approved path. The fact
Speaker 2: that there are helicopters flying through here is insane to
Speaker 2: begin with, but these are some of the factors that
Speaker 2: go in. The Other thing is, you know, I learned
Speaker 2: a lot about DCA. It sucks because this is actually
Speaker 2: my favorite airport in the region.
Speaker 6: It's closed easy, it's not.
Speaker 2: That big of an airport facility, so it's very easy
Speaker 2: to get around in et cetera. But the main runway
Speaker 2: there is actually the busiest runway in the entire country.
Speaker 2: And the reason is because there's only one real runway,
Speaker 2: it's already shorter than most you know, major runways at
Speaker 2: major airports, but there's only really one main runway that
Speaker 2: larger jets can land on, so that primary runway is
Speaker 2: the busiest in the country. Then you couple that with
Speaker 2: the fact that you have all of these sensitive areas
Speaker 2: around here. You've got the Pentagon, you got the White House,
Speaker 2: you got all kinds of monuments and other facilities.
Speaker 6: That are nearby.
Speaker 2: So it effectively forces all of the air traffic into
Speaker 2: a very narrow corridor, predominantly just right over the Potomac River,
Speaker 2: which anybody again who's flown into that airport is kind
Speaker 2: of familiar. So it creates this really dense and very
Speaker 2: busily trafficked area. And those are some of the factors
Speaker 2: that seem to have contributed to this horrific, horrific death.
Speaker 2: But one indication we got is that the screens that
Speaker 2: the air traffic controller was monitoring and using to you know,
Speaker 2: keep everything safe, etc. May have misread the level that
Speaker 2: the helicopter was flying at. So the NTSB is a
Speaker 2: term in the helicopter. The black Hawk helicopter was flying
Speaker 2: at three hundred and twenty five feet. It was supposed
Speaker 2: to be at two hundred feet. There is some indication
Speaker 2: maybe that the technical controls for the air traffic controller
Speaker 2: were misreading the height. That could have been a factor.
Speaker 2: But you know, to go back to like Doge and
Speaker 2: all of this sort of stuff, the air traffic controllers
Speaker 2: got the same fork in the road email pushing them
Speaker 2: to retire, as everybody else.
Speaker 6: In the federal government did.
Speaker 2: Then there was another like Q and a email that
Speaker 2: went out that even more aggressively pushed everyone in the
Speaker 2: federal government, including air traffic controllers. Hey, now would be
Speaker 2: the time to take this buy on, go on like
Speaker 2: the dream vacation. This shows you, right, federal government is
Speaker 2: not a business. Okay, maybe it made sense a Twitter
Speaker 2: for Eland to just like acts however whatever eighty percent
Speaker 2: of the workers.
Speaker 6: Et cetera.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there are some areas in the federal
Speaker 2: government where you could definitely trim the staff back and
Speaker 2: where it wouldn't make that much of a difference and
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be that impactful.
Speaker 6: This is not one of them.
Speaker 2: Right, This is a place where we need to hire
Speaker 2: thousands more air traffic controllers. Instead they're getting the same
Speaker 2: emails that are like, hey, take the buy on and
Speaker 2: go on vacation and like enjoy living your life and
Speaker 2: double dipping on your federal government salary and whatever new
Speaker 2: gig you're going.
Speaker 6: To take up as well.
Speaker 2: So that is where these sort of rubber hits the
Speaker 2: road in terms of what we actually need and rely
Speaker 2: on the federal government to do. And this just let
Speaker 2: me take a hatchet to the whole thing approach that
Speaker 2: we are seeing from our new god King Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: I have no disagreement on that, and I think that
Speaker 3: is the absolute danger that they will fall into. I'll
Speaker 3: remind people that the lowest point of approval rating actually
Speaker 3: for George W. Bush, unfortunately was not Iraq even though
Speaker 3: it should have been. It was FEMA and New Orleans. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was Hurricane Katrina. When people they feel like a
Speaker 3: disaster is not properly.
Speaker 1: Handled, they do not take kindly to it.
Speaker 3: And so that is of course the major caution for
Speaker 3: people who are supportive of Doze and others is look,
Speaker 3: like I said, I'm not going to sit here and
Speaker 3: cry about USAID or NGOs in California or anything like that.
Speaker 3: But if you find yourself in a position where you're
Speaker 3: either tangentially or somewhat to blame for a major disaster,
Speaker 3: and so something else like this happens and they can
Speaker 3: trace it back to you.
Speaker 1: It can cause you some serious, serious problems.
Speaker 3: Last thing on this is that we are learning that
Speaker 3: this was just the latest that a previous incident like
Speaker 3: this had happened. So let's go and put C eight
Speaker 3: please on the screen. A helicopter and an FAA plane
Speaker 3: actually almost collided in twenty eighteen right next to DCA.
Speaker 3: The near collision was almost identical to Wednesday's nights crashed.
Speaker 3: The controller in that case working both helicopter local traffic
Speaker 3: at the time. And the reason why, again is the
Speaker 3: short staffing of the FAA.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's another thing that you raised.
Speaker 3: You know, nine pm is one of the busiest times
Speaker 3: on the runway at DCA, tons of flights. I feel
Speaker 3: those usually the very last ones that come in.
Speaker 2: And I feel so bad for this person because they
Speaker 2: never should have been put in the city of this
Speaker 2: or the traft troller maybe they never should have been
Speaker 2: put in this situation.
Speaker 6: And now they have sixty seven lives on their contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got it. The helicopter pilot.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, we got to learn. It may turn
Speaker 3: out that the guy didn't do it, or the woman whoever,
Speaker 3: the air traffic controller didn't do anything wrong. Instrumentation failure
Speaker 3: on the helicopter, well, that's on the military, right, because
Speaker 3: why are you not expecting your equipment before that happen?
Speaker 3: Or and this is the other one, the helicopter pilot.
Speaker 3: I mean, if anybody's to blame, it's probably her, because
Speaker 3: if it's not instrumentation failure, then it's about communication. And
Speaker 3: also a lot of people when raising a lot, they're like,
Speaker 3: what you really miss a passenger jet?
Speaker 6: I mean the video is insane. Yeah, the video, it's
Speaker 6: it looks like they.
Speaker 1: Go, right, look, not helicopter pilots.
Speaker 3: I'm trying not to pass judge, but to any layman
Speaker 3: who's watching that, I mean, it's basically a bee line, right.
Speaker 2: The thing that's crazy to me is you see all
Speaker 2: these helicopter pilots that are like just imagine like it's
Speaker 2: at night and you're just looking out this little tube
Speaker 2: and you see these lecens like, Okay, well, if.
Speaker 6: It's that difficult, yeah don't Why don't we doing right?
Speaker 2: If it's like you can't see anything and you have
Speaker 2: no idea there's a regional jet right frick in there
Speaker 2: that you're flying into maybe we shouldn't be having these
Speaker 2: helicopters flying all around one of you know, an incredibly
Speaker 2: busy airport at nine o'clock.
Speaker 3: And I said, they're wearing night vision. The allegation is
Speaker 3: they may have been wearing night vision goggles. So it's
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, it's really hard to see. I'm like, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: but do that in Iraq. You don't need to do
Speaker 3: it over here.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Like, what are we training for? Exactly gets to the
Speaker 3: whole continent training for.
Speaker 1: I would like to know what was that crazy thing
Speaker 1: in the Obama administration?
Speaker 6: Something Yeah, down in Texas.
Speaker 1: Kate Helm was that it? I think that is someone's
Speaker 1: going to remember that was a whole thing. Texas. Mobilize
Speaker 1: the national Guard.
Speaker 3: Actually, as a Virginia resident, we should mobilize our national
Speaker 3: guard to protect us from the United States military, protect
Speaker 3: our airspace, keep the government off our runways.
Speaker 6: All right, everybody gets super excited.
Speaker 2: We got a new Democratic National Committee chair.
Speaker 6: Big deal.
Speaker 2: Ken Martin, the former Minnesota state chair, has won that
Speaker 2: contest over the weekend. As a reminder of what this
Speaker 2: guy is all about. He is the one who said that, oh,
Speaker 2: we should absolutely continue as a party to take money
Speaker 2: from quote unquote good billionaires. We should just to avoid
Speaker 2: those quote unquote bad billionaires. In one of the DNC
Speaker 2: candidate forums, let's take a listen to what he had
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of.
Speaker 4: Good billionaires out there that have that have been with
Speaker 4: Democrats who share our values, and we will.
Speaker 1: Take their money.
Speaker 4: But we're not taking money from those bad billionaires in party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and listen. Obviously, his definition of
Speaker 2: a good billionaire is just someone who gives the Democratic
Speaker 2: Party money, So that just frees you up.
Speaker 6: To take money from whoever whenever.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm sure they would be happy to welcome Mark
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg back into the fold, et cetera, et cetera. Let's
Speaker 2: put the vote totals up on the screen. Ken Martin
Speaker 2: one with two hundred forty six point five. I don't
Speaker 2: really know how the point five works, but anyway, I
Speaker 2: was wondering, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Not important.
Speaker 2: Ben Wickler, who's the chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party,
Speaker 2: one forty four point five.
Speaker 6: Martin Omalley, former Maryland governor, got forty four.
Speaker 2: Fashikiaro is Bernie's chief of staff who we interviewed here,
Speaker 2: who jumped in late gets a whopping two votes. Jason
Speaker 2: Paul don't even know who that is, gets one vote,
Speaker 2: and then no votes for anyone else. So Mary and
Speaker 2: Williamson was running, no votes for her, no votes for
Speaker 2: anyone else. I mean to me, this is just part
Speaker 2: and parcel of the Democratic Party is so lost right now.
Speaker 6: They are so lost.
Speaker 2: They have no idea how to handle this Trump two
Speaker 2: point zero administration. They have no idea how to be
Speaker 2: able to offer some sort of an alternative vision, like,
Speaker 2: for example, actually standing against all billionaires, not just the
Speaker 2: quote unquote bad billionaires, and taking a clear stance against
Speaker 2: oligarchy and the seizure of our country by a band
Speaker 2: of robber barons. That would require them to, you know,
Speaker 2: totally remake their own party, because that is how many
Speaker 2: of all of their leaders effectively have come into power
Speaker 2: as well. And so what you have seen after Trump
Speaker 2: getting re elected, Sager, is you know, Chuck Schumer is.
Speaker 6: Still thehead of the Dems in the Senate.
Speaker 2: You've got Hakeem Jefferies still ahead of the Dums in
Speaker 2: the House. No one could tell you who the actual
Speaker 2: leader of the Dey Democratic Party is. They're going with
Speaker 2: this very standard issue Guy as DNC chair, and you
Speaker 2: even had Jamie Harrison, the outgoing DNC chair, say that
Speaker 2: he actually still thinks that Biden should have.
Speaker 6: Maybe stayed in the race. Like the Democrats on the
Speaker 6: state of affairs right now.
Speaker 3: The Democrats are praying for the scenario that I laid
Speaker 3: out in our previous block to happen. They want the
Speaker 3: public to freak out about the tariffs, then they just
Speaker 3: nominate some replacement level Democrat and he wins as opposition
Speaker 3: to Trump. That is the most politically convenient. By the way,
Speaker 3: that's actually a very likely outcome. I just want people
Speaker 3: to understand that it's extraordinarily possible that that could happen.
Speaker 3: But the reason why they should really try and do
Speaker 3: something else is if it's nineteen eighty four and Donald
Speaker 3: Trump is Ronald Reagan who becomes massively popular even more
Speaker 3: over his second term, and then you have his vice
Speaker 3: president waiting in the wings.
Speaker 1: What happened in eighty.
Speaker 3: Four Mondale, who had I mean, if you think Democrats
Speaker 3: are bad now, think about back then in terms of
Speaker 3: who are we, what do we stand for?
Speaker 1: They had zero policy position.
Speaker 3: Eventually, it consolidates very late into the new Democratic Party.
Speaker 3: The DLC and all that under Bill Clinton in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety two. But they were out of power for twelve years,
Speaker 3: so they easily could find themselves. This could just be
Speaker 3: year number four at the end of the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: You could have a two term J eight Evans or
Speaker 3: Trump Junior or somebody's presidency before they can actually get
Speaker 3: their act together. So they really are banking on Trump
Speaker 3: screwing up. And that's not a strategy, that's not a movement,
Speaker 3: that's not something that you believe in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And they also just like
Speaker 2: they have no idea how to deal with the speed
Speaker 2: of news and the current media environment either, definitely right,
Speaker 2: So you know, I mean they're like still processing things
Speaker 2: that happened on inauguration Day and here we are like
Speaker 2: ten crises later, and they, you know, they just they
Speaker 2: don't have by and large, I mean, this is where
Speaker 2: like whatever you think of AOC, she at least understands
Speaker 2: the new media environment and the fact that you know,
Speaker 2: one of the few people that they have on their
Speaker 2: side who actually can garner media attention and track controversy
Speaker 2: and like start a conversation, et cetera. They also go
Speaker 2: out of their way to like bury and keep from
Speaker 2: any sort of a leadership position also tells you where
Speaker 2: they are. So they have a myriad of problems. Their
Speaker 2: approval rating is like has never been lower effectively, because
Speaker 2: I think, not only do you have people who are
Speaker 2: normally opposed to Democrats opposed to them, but then you
Speaker 2: have the rest of the country and even people who
Speaker 2: maybe like sympathetic to democratic type principles just looking at
Speaker 2: them and like, you are so pathetic in this moment.
Speaker 2: You have no idea how to meet the moment. You
Speaker 2: have no idea how to articulate a different vision. You're
Speaker 2: just going along and like doing the same things that
Speaker 2: you've always done, re electing the same people, same type
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 6: Et cetera.
Speaker 2: And it is not it is not a terribly inspired
Speaker 2: situation for them right now. And I think you're right, Zagara.
Speaker 2: I think they don't know what to do. They don't
Speaker 2: understand how to do. They had Corey Booker give some
Speaker 2: like social media seminar to everyone.
Speaker 6: I don't know if we talked on the show or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if we talked about this
Speaker 2: on the show or not.
Speaker 6: But they had some meeting.
Speaker 2: I think of the Democratic senators trying to brainstorm how
Speaker 2: to like go viral, and they're like, oh, Mark Warner
Speaker 2: made a tune melt.
Speaker 3: Dur oh way.
Speaker 2: I swear to god, you didn't see this, Mark Warner
Speaker 2: made it. You might have been like, I think you
Speaker 2: were off during that. I made it tuone melt during
Speaker 2: COVID that went supervirus, Like maybe he did that, but no.
Speaker 6: One remembers that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have no idea that's.
Speaker 2: Your answer to Trump two point zero and Elon must
Speaker 2: take you over the government.
Speaker 6: All this stuff is like, maybe we should do some
Speaker 6: more online cooking.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh Jesus Christ, they're so lost.
Speaker 3: And they've also they're not ditching their cartoonish identity politics either.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of great clips coming out. Let's
Speaker 3: take a listen to one of them.
Speaker 7: Specify that when we have a gender non binary candidate
Speaker 7: or officer, the non binary individual is counted as neither
Speaker 7: male nor female, and the remaining six offices must be
Speaker 7: gender balanced. With the results of the previous four elections,
Speaker 7: our elected officers are currently too male and to female.
Speaker 7: In order to be gender balanced, we must we must
Speaker 7: elect one male, one female, and one person of any gender.
Speaker 7: So again, this is what we.
Speaker 8: Have to do for this vice chair race. We have to.
Speaker 7: Elect one male, one female, and one person of any gender.
Speaker 7: To ensure our process accounts for male, female, and non
Speaker 7: binary candidates, we conferred with our RBC co chair, our
Speaker 7: LGBT Caucus co Chair, and others to ensure that the
Speaker 7: process is inclusive and meets the gender balance requirements. In
Speaker 7: our rules, any candidate male, female, and non binary can
Speaker 7: be elected on that ballot. After a candidate is elected
Speaker 7: on the first ballot, we'll have one officer of the three,
Speaker 7: so we will now so then we will know which
Speaker 7: position is filled of the one male, one female, and
Speaker 7: one vice chair of any gender.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, who is this even for it?
Speaker 1: So that's where we're got, that's where we're at.
Speaker 3: And Faz Shakir said, this is the kind of identity
Speaker 3: politics in fighting that I was urging us against. Focus
Speaker 3: on fighting against oligarchy through solidarity. He got two votes,
Speaker 3: so that's the decision. There was a land acknowledgement too
Speaker 3: with the DNC.
Speaker 2: So you know, look, you know, folks, I want to
Speaker 2: give Faz credit even though you know whatever, I don't
Speaker 2: think he ever had a shot even if he got in,
Speaker 2: got in early, et cetera. Because this isn't like, you know,
Speaker 2: a Democratic base alike. This is literally just DNC members.
Speaker 2: These are I mean, they're not like some of them
Speaker 2: are insider insiders.
Speaker 6: Some of them are just like local county chairs.
Speaker 2: But these are just you know, these are Democratic Party
Speaker 2: operatives whatever.
Speaker 6: But he had asked at one of.
Speaker 2: The forums, you know, do you think we should have
Speaker 2: a can't remember what identity group caucus? It was maybe
Speaker 2: a Muslim caucus. I can't I think it was a
Speaker 2: Muslim caucus. And he was like, no, I think we
Speaker 2: need to stop doing this like division by identity. I
Speaker 2: think we need to focus on like class solidarity and
Speaker 2: delivering for all people. And he gets two votes. We
Speaker 2: have a DNC vice chair who was elected as well.
Speaker 2: We can put D four up on the screen, David Hogg,
Speaker 2: who's you know, gun safety activist. And one thing I
Speaker 2: will say here to defend David a little bit is
Speaker 2: at least David understands new media, like at least he
Speaker 2: knows how to communicate on social media platforms himself.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's of course.
Speaker 6: To be vice president of the United States.
Speaker 1: We also became a senator.
Speaker 2: So I haven't seen the Democrats need more posters on
Speaker 2: their side.
Speaker 6: And at least he understands the social media.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, mister David, I can show you, David.
Speaker 2: He's had more fight in him than like ninety percent
Speaker 2: of having fight.
Speaker 3: Okay, having the fight in you is not a skill.
Speaker 3: Having the fight in you in the right direction is
Speaker 3: an appropriate skill.
Speaker 6: Of the right direction.
Speaker 2: He's been no for real, he he has I agree,
Speaker 2: the bars on the frickin floor, but at least he
Speaker 2: has been forceful aggressive. Some of his post election analysis
Speaker 2: has been correct. He does understand at least the new
Speaker 2: media landscape.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it could be worse.
Speaker 1: Okay, it could be worse.
Speaker 3: I think they should hire Parker Parker Short, the kid
Speaker 3: who's been on our show.
Speaker 6: Oh I love God, that'll be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See he's he's the type of person.
Speaker 3: Hey, David, if you're listening, uh, you should hire Parker Short.
Speaker 3: That that is an an immediate endorsement as far as
Speaker 3: that's going to carry from me.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 3: He had an interesting exchange with Piers Morgan where the
Speaker 3: topic of Gaza and Israel came up calling out Ben
Speaker 3: Shapiro on the topic of war.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9: If you're intentionally killing civilians, you probably shouldn't beat your
Speaker 9: chest and brag about it.
Speaker 8: You know, maybe you could make it agree with that.
Speaker 9: Maybe you make the case that we had to do
Speaker 9: it or whatever, but you should you should weep.
Speaker 8: And that's evil and you should just say it's evil.
Speaker 9: And I know it's like really threatening to is it evil,
Speaker 9: Ben Shapiro to say that or whatever?
Speaker 8: But is it evil to kill civilians on purpose? Yet
Speaker 8: it is?
Speaker 9: I think it is kids and children? Well, how is
Speaker 9: it not? Actually we can call it whatever you want.
Speaker 9: How is it right to kill women and children?
Speaker 8: I didn't say, well, because I think there's a moral
Speaker 8: right behind you. If you are literally to kill women
Speaker 8: and children, if as a world war that threatens the
Speaker 8: entire if it threatens the entire world, Yes.
Speaker 9: Some people killed your kids, like your eight year old
Speaker 9: children justifiable because actually you have to well, by your cristire,
Speaker 9: it's disgusting.
Speaker 8: Okay, it's nothing. So no war is morally justified. I
Speaker 8: mean I think it's pretty hard to justify.
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, you know, a pure defensive action, sure,
Speaker 9: but all I'm saying, Look, it's all ugly, it's all
Speaker 9: hard to stomach.
Speaker 8: I've actually seen some of it up close. Super ugly.
Speaker 8: You say you hate let me mat Mafo the fact.
Speaker 9: Justified to intentionally kill noncombatants, women and children. I think
Speaker 9: we can say that's wrong. In fact, I thought that
Speaker 9: was the thing we were fighting against.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, very interesting.
Speaker 3: This is, of course invited now some serious pushback from
Speaker 3: the Daily Wire. Let's put this up there on the screen.
Speaker 3: CEO Jeremy Boring. Anyone still blind to what Tucker is
Speaker 3: doing is wilfully so.
Speaker 1: He isn't hiding it.
Speaker 3: When a man has worse things to say about Winston
Speaker 3: Churchill and Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 1: Notice the Churchill and Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 3: Then Vladimir putin a Nazi apologists.
Speaker 1: He's making his position pretty clear.
Speaker 3: Somebody followed up and replied to him saying, Tucker is
Speaker 3: actually spot on. Any life lost in war is a tragedy.
Speaker 3: That's what he's trying to express. Jeremy says, that is
Speaker 3: not what he's trying to express. Tucker is one of
Speaker 3: the most gifted communicators of his generation. He isn't just
Speaker 3: misunderstood and anyway, Yeah, this is just the latest in
Speaker 3: this break between the two. But I thought it was
Speaker 3: fascinating to see Peers there. I guess it actually fits
Speaker 3: with his British heritage. They are the people who really
Speaker 3: were the original pushers of area bombing otherwise known as
Speaker 3: strategic sorry the counter true strategic bombing, which is bombing
Speaker 3: of unch people in World War Two in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night. They stuck by that position, bomber Harris
Speaker 3: and their admirals and others. It's something or sorry. They're
Speaker 3: generals and others. They're very proud of that legacy, and
Speaker 3: it seems that that's trickled here into some of these debates.
Speaker 3: But I think it's fascinating to watch for Peers and
Speaker 3: others whenever they get pushed on that position, especially with
Speaker 3: that last thing that he said.
Speaker 1: He goes, I thought that's what.
Speaker 3: We were fighting against, and you're like, oh, hold on
Speaker 3: a second. It's like, well, actually, you know, you can
Speaker 3: be quote pro Israel or whatever and also just be like, hey,
Speaker 3: some of the way that this war has been conducted
Speaker 3: is totally outside of the norms of the way that
Speaker 3: any modern West in power fights. But that situation, like
Speaker 3: if you know, you and I have experienced this. If
Speaker 3: you talk about that, you're really smeared as an anti Semite.
Speaker 1: It's great. The whole thing is crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, Pierce has really tried to hold on to this
Speaker 2: sort of like both sides middle ground in the you know,
Speaker 2: post October seventh world, and you can see pretty clearly
Speaker 2: there how that just falls apart, Like at this point,
Speaker 2: really all of Gaza is destroyed. We have no idea
Speaker 2: how many people were killed. The majority of them were women,
Speaker 2: children and the elderly. Like, it's just undeniable at this point.
Speaker 2: I mean, he says this thing that's so preposterous that
Speaker 2: like the entire world was threatened.
Speaker 6: Like, give me a break.
Speaker 2: What happened on October seventh is the absolute maximal amount
Speaker 2: that Hummas.
Speaker 6: Would be able to ever pull off.
Speaker 2: They were, by a lot of reports, like stunned at
Speaker 2: what they were able to, you know, the damage they
Speaker 2: were able to inflict on that day. So the position
Speaker 2: is just preposterous. I guess what I'll say is it's
Speaker 2: good Tucker is very influential on the right. It's good
Speaker 2: that you have a very influential voice on the right
Speaker 2: who is expressing concern about women and children in Gaza.
Speaker 2: It would if if I think this is a big if,
Speaker 2: I think it's unlikely. But we'll say, and we're about
Speaker 2: to talk to as Israeli journalists from how Rat's talking
Speaker 2: about the ceasefire deal and what Trump is likely to do,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, if he were to further buck
Speaker 2: the like pro Israel hardliners, many of whom are in
Speaker 2: his own government now by his choice, by the way,
Speaker 2: and you know, push BB to continue with this ceasefire deal.
Speaker 2: It's good that there will be people like Tucker that
Speaker 2: are there to.
Speaker 6: Back him up.
Speaker 2: I just see, you know, it's always irritating to me.
Speaker 2: It's easy to go after Ben Shapiro for his pro
Speaker 2: Israel position, like Trump has already rolled back the restrictions
Speaker 2: on the use of two thousand pound bombs, rolled back
Speaker 2: the restrictions on the you know, the sanctions on the
Speaker 2: violent settlers, said we're going to clean that whole thing out,
Speaker 2: referencing like ethnic cleansing of all of Gaza, and you
Speaker 2: never hear any criticism of him. So, you know, Ben
Speaker 2: Shapiro is ultimately powerless really in this situation. He's not
Speaker 2: in government he's not the president, he's not Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: So you know, I will have a lot more respect
Speaker 2: if there is actually some criticism that's leveled at the
Speaker 2: guy who actually has the power in the situation.
Speaker 3: What I am worried about. Here's the thing right now.
Speaker 3: And Tucker did this luckily with my friend Kurt Mills.
Speaker 1: He did a video.
Speaker 3: Remember we were talking about the Mike Demino thing and
Speaker 3: the attack on him and Steve Witcotck. They did a
Speaker 3: whole podcast actually defending the two of them. Steve Wikoff
Speaker 3: is the key. I am the most worried about him.
Speaker 3: The amount of fire that the Pro Israel lobby and
Speaker 3: Washington has on him right now is insane. They are
Speaker 3: trying to smear him as a Katari agent. They're like
Speaker 3: literally calling which again we're talking about the Pro Israel
Speaker 3: lobby is accusing somebody else of being a foreign.
Speaker 6: Age sharing water.
Speaker 1: Shall we talk about do we all want to settle
Speaker 1: on that. You guys want to talk about foreign influence?
Speaker 3: Should we start talking about go through your ten ninety
Speaker 3: nines and you'r ng o's and who's uh, who's donating
Speaker 3: to all of you? If you guys want to play
Speaker 3: that game. We can play that game.
Speaker 1: But that's that.
Speaker 3: And then Mike Demino other Mark Levin literally called him
Speaker 3: a creep. I think he called an anti semi creep
Speaker 3: Mike Demino for saying that we should not want to
Speaker 3: go to war with Iran. That's what it is as currently,
Speaker 3: the state of things, where things fall.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my hope hope is that because wick Cough and
Speaker 3: Trump are such old buddies, Trump will hopefully not let
Speaker 3: you know, Net and Yahoo and his government sway him
Speaker 3: to fire Witcough.
Speaker 1: But let's all be honest.
Speaker 3: You know about Miriam Adelson is there, She's give him
Speaker 3: a hundred You know, she didn't give you one hundred.
Speaker 1: Million for free.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who are in this government
Speaker 3: right now who have the ear of the pret Marco Rubio,
Speaker 3: I mean, look at all the stuff that the guys
Speaker 3: said previously about Israel. Mike Waltz, the stuff that he
Speaker 3: said previously, hegseeth exactly.
Speaker 2: Stephan, I mean her position is not that important, but
Speaker 2: the whole reason she got the position is because of
Speaker 2: her crazy like mccarthyites, smears of propound el Teime demonstrators.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's de Finnic. Yes, it's fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And Mike Kakabe is the ambassador Israel.
Speaker 2: I mean that you could not find a more psycho
Speaker 2: like End Times Israel, no matter what kind of a guy.
Speaker 6: So there's a lot there.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I am not optimistic that any of
Speaker 1: this will happen.
Speaker 3: We're about to talk with this Israeli journalists about the
Speaker 3: sy op and all those but in general, it is
Speaker 3: good at least that somebody is calling some of this
Speaker 3: stuff out. I really truly hope so, because if not,
Speaker 3: we all know what the path of that looks like,
Speaker 3: basically the Biden path with even more just open and
Speaker 3: pro support, which I don't think is good for any
Speaker 3: of us. Let's get to the Israeli journalists who's going
Speaker 3: to talk to us about net Yahoo and Gaza.
Speaker 2: We are very fortunate to be joined this morning by
Speaker 2: a journalist for Haretzi Israeli newspapers reporting. By the way,
Speaker 2: we have relied on quite a bed throughout the coverage
Speaker 2: post October seventh, Amir t Bone.
Speaker 6: He is also the author of a book called The
Speaker 6: Gates of Gaza. Great to see you, Amir, Good to
Speaker 6: see you, Hi.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's our pleasure. Let's go and put your reporting
Speaker 2: here up on the screen. Prime Minister Natya who is
Speaker 2: traveling to the US. He will be the first foreign
Speaker 2: leader to visit Trump in his new term. And your
Speaker 2: headline here is Natnya who comes to Washington to kill
Speaker 2: Trump's Gaza deal?
Speaker 6: Will the President let him?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: What have you been able to learn about the dynamics
Speaker 2: between Trump and BB in advance of this meeting.
Speaker 5: Well, it's clear that President Trump picks great pride in
Speaker 5: getting the Gaza cease fire that the previous president failed
Speaker 5: to achieve for more than a year. And President Trump
Speaker 5: secured a ceasefire in hostage release deal even before entering
Speaker 5: the White House. He and his special envoice, Steve Whitcock,
Speaker 5: who has earned a lot of respect here in Israel,
Speaker 5: did a lot of hard work to get this deal.
Speaker 5: But this deal is built in a very very sophisticated,
Speaker 5: perhaps too sophisticated, of away. And a month from today
Speaker 5: it is supposed to move from the first phase of
Speaker 5: the deal, during which Mass is supposed to release thirty
Speaker 5: three of our hostages. We've already released more than ten.
Speaker 5: We are waiting for more and more of the hostages
Speaker 5: to arrive. But then we're supposed to move into phase two,
Speaker 5: during which all the remaining living hostages, more than twenty
Speaker 5: of them, including two personal friends of mine, are supposed
Speaker 5: to be released and Israel is supposed to complete its
Speaker 5: withdrawal from Gaza. And this phase of the deal threatens
Speaker 5: the survival of Nataniao's governing coalition, which relies on several
Speaker 5: extremist fanatic parties that are threatening to blow up the
Speaker 5: governing coalition and basically end Nathaniel's hold on power if.
Speaker 8: He goes through.
Speaker 5: So he's caught in a situation where on the one hand,
Speaker 5: there is the survival of his coalition, on the other hand,
Speaker 5: the survival of the hostages, and smack in the middle
Speaker 5: is President Trump, who wants the still to continue and
Speaker 5: wants it to be the basis for a broader Middle
Speaker 5: East agenda centered around Israeli Saudi peace that really, first
Speaker 5: of all, requires an end to the war in Gaza.
Speaker 3: So, Amir, can you pair this with some comments you've
Speaker 3: reported on there that Trump had floated. For example, He's like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: maybe the Palestinians can temporarily go to Jordan or Egypt.
Speaker 3: And I believe since that comment the governments of all
Speaker 3: of those countries have come forward and said that's an
Speaker 3: absolute non starter. So in terms of the fork in
Speaker 3: the road, I guess, if you will, for the actual
Speaker 3: decisions that the Trump administration has to make, they have
Speaker 3: to decide whether Steve Witkoff and others will continue negotiations
Speaker 3: and push for a Phase two or to support a
Speaker 3: continuation of the war in Gaza.
Speaker 1: Are there any other options on the table? Realistically?
Speaker 5: I think the idea that Trump floated that some of
Speaker 5: the Palestinians in Gaza will, from my understanding, temporarily seek
Speaker 5: residence in a neighboring country until all the destruction in
Speaker 5: Gaza can be removed and new housing can be built.
Speaker 5: And the reconstruction in Gaza from this war is going
Speaker 5: to take years. This is a very difficult situation. That's
Speaker 5: obviously a suggestion that none of the neighboring Arab countries
Speaker 5: like Egypt and Jordan, are willing to hear about right now.
Speaker 5: But if it is presented as part of a package
Speaker 5: that ends the war, that moves us toward Palestinian statehood,
Speaker 5: that includes guarantees that all of these people will be
Speaker 5: able to return to Gaza. No Israeli settlements built in
Speaker 5: Gaza completely is rarely Withdrew. Maybe then it will sound
Speaker 5: different when he just sends it on the plane, and
Speaker 5: you know, with some reporters who don't really know the
Speaker 5: nuance of this issue, and to be frank, I'm not
Speaker 5: sure he knows all the nuance at this point. Either
Speaker 5: he comes and says, oh, we want them to move
Speaker 5: to Egypt. So of course everybody's rising up and saying,
Speaker 5: no way we're going to accept that. The Egyptians, the Jordanians,
Speaker 5: the Palestinians, we saw over the weekend, the CDs and
Speaker 5: the poweries, you know, very important countries in this whole
Speaker 5: process also coming out against it. So I think if
Speaker 5: Trump has a real idea here that he wants to
Speaker 5: sell to the relevant art countries, it needs to be
Speaker 5: part of a broader package, and it needs to be
Speaker 5: explained as part of a move to end the war,
Speaker 5: reconstruct Gaza, and put us on a path to Palestinian statehood,
Speaker 5: which is supposed to be part of this brand Israeli Saudi.
Speaker 8: Deal that he's trying to take.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of diplomatic ideas floating around right now,
Speaker 5: and I think we should bread every statement we hear
Speaker 5: with a bit of caution at this moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can put up two up on the screen,
Speaker 2: which you know, underscores what you all were saying that
Speaker 2: there was a widespread rejection from Saudi Arabia, UAA, Cutar, Egypt, Jordan,
Speaker 2: and Palestinian Authority and the Arab League all said in
Speaker 2: a joint statement they oppose President Trump's plan to move
Speaker 2: Palestinians from Gaza under any excuse the language, of course
Speaker 2: that he used, saying we need to quote clean that
Speaker 2: whole thing out, something along those lines.
Speaker 5: That's like real estate language. That's not diplomatic.
Speaker 2: Language, right, Well, I mean it's ethnic cleansing language, is
Speaker 2: effectively what it is. And how could anybody given that
Speaker 2: you have within you know, THENT Nyaho Coalition, NET Nyaho himself,
Speaker 2: these extremists who are quite open about we want to
Speaker 2: push out the Palestinians, we want to completely settle and
Speaker 2: take over not just Gaza but also the West Bank,
Speaker 2: how could you ever have any assurance that this wasn't just,
Speaker 2: you know, an attempt at a final complete ethnic cleansing
Speaker 2: of both Gaza and the West Bank.
Speaker 5: I think one of the things President Trump is going
Speaker 5: to learn as he navigates this issue is that the
Speaker 5: current coalition in Israel is not going to make his
Speaker 5: life easier in any way, because that's just the example
Speaker 5: you gave now. Where an idea that to be presented
Speaker 5: with the right language, with the right assurances, with the
Speaker 5: right funding, as a temporary solution that allows to rebuild
Speaker 5: Gaza and then prepare beggers housing for all the people
Speaker 5: who lost their homes in this war, and we're thinking
Speaker 5: about hundreds of thousands, potentially more than a million people
Speaker 5: who lost their homes. That kind of plan will immediately
Speaker 5: run into a wall of suspicion because it is being
Speaker 5: associated with people like Betzellar's Mootridge, the far right finance
Speaker 5: minister of the current Natanial government, who is openly celebrating
Speaker 5: the idea of emptying Galazza from its residents. And once
Speaker 5: he makes that kind of statement, then automatically you're going
Speaker 5: to see all of the relevant Arab countries coming and
Speaker 5: saying we want nothing to do with it. And Smotridge
Speaker 5: is right now pressuring NATANIAO. You know, as we're speaking,
Speaker 5: he put out a statement that if NATANIAU agrees to
Speaker 5: end the war so that we can go into phase
Speaker 5: two of the hostage negotiations and save the remaining hostages.
Speaker 5: He's blowing up the government. It's important to understand that
Speaker 5: for the hostage families in Israel, and I know many
Speaker 5: of them personally, and you know I'm talking here about
Speaker 5: friends of mine and their families, they see President Trump
Speaker 5: and Stephen Wickock as their last source of hope, literally
Speaker 5: literally the light at the end of the tunnel, because
Speaker 5: we know some of these hostages are being held in
Speaker 5: inhumane conditions in tunnels underground, being starved, being tortured. And
Speaker 5: then comes President Trump and Stepping Whitkof and they put
Speaker 5: together this deal that says, within three phases, all the
Speaker 5: hostages are released, the war ends, Israel withdraws from Gaza.
Speaker 8: And this is over.
Speaker 5: And instead of saying, well, okay, this is the way
Speaker 5: to do it, now, we're seeing politicians from within our
Speaker 5: government pressuring Natanielle to say no, and not only that,
Speaker 5: to try to convince Trump himself to disregard the deal
Speaker 5: that he was so proud of just two weeks ago
Speaker 5: when he entered office.
Speaker 3: So, Amir, this is my big question then is if
Speaker 3: does Trump have the political ability Steve Wikoff and others
Speaker 3: so well, by the way, I'm not sure if you're aware,
Speaker 3: I'm under major attack in our country.
Speaker 1: Also, people who are aligned with the.
Speaker 3: With the is really far right, Well, do they have
Speaker 3: the ability to force any of that, because, as you said,
Speaker 3: if the government falls, there's no guarantee what comes next.
Speaker 3: What does that scenario look like or is there some
Speaker 3: thread the needle scenario where Trump does force Nataiaou to
Speaker 3: take this deal, continue the Steve wid Cooff and other
Speaker 3: negotiations that does not lead to the falling of the government,
Speaker 3: or is that just simply inevitable.
Speaker 5: So I think President Trump is surrounded by a lot
Speaker 5: of people who are blind admirers of Nataniel and are
Speaker 5: perhaps not giving the president the best advice possible. For example,
Speaker 5: Netaniao and his right hand man Ron Dermer will probably
Speaker 5: tell President Trump that can't follow through with the feasefire
Speaker 5: because the government will fall apart, and that this is
Speaker 5: bad for Trump because it will cause a stalemate in
Speaker 5: the Middle East. But if you actually check very simple
Speaker 5: press statements being made out in the open in Israel,
Speaker 5: you will see that the leaders of the important opposition
Speaker 5: parties today today, not a month ago, came out and
Speaker 5: said that if Natanieu loses his majority because of the
Speaker 5: hostage deal, because of the ceasefire, they will give him
Speaker 5: temporary support for at least several months so that he
Speaker 5: doesn't lose power and the hostage and ceasefire deal collapses. Wow,
Speaker 5: which means that any other claim is a lie. Now,
Speaker 5: Nataniel prefers the far right coalition that is against the
Speaker 5: hostage deal because that gives him the potential to hold
Speaker 5: power for another two years. That's why he prefers it.
Speaker 5: But from President Trump's point of view, he should know
Speaker 5: that if Nataniel comes and said I can't do this
Speaker 5: still for political reasons, that's not true. He will get
Speaker 5: a few months of support from the opposition to complete
Speaker 5: the hostage release and cease fire deal. Because for the
Speaker 5: vast majority of Israelis, the release of the hostages is
Speaker 5: today the number one priority. This is something that unites
Speaker 5: a huge percentage of the population. We want to see
Speaker 5: them come back home and end this night. Now, I
Speaker 5: don't know if there will be enough people around President
Speaker 5: Trump who are strong enough and knowledgeable enough about our
Speaker 5: internal politics to present the facts to him in a
Speaker 5: way that overcomes the spin and the excuses that he
Speaker 5: will hear from Nataniel. But I'm confident that if President
Speaker 5: Trump insists on this, we will see the deal come through.
Speaker 5: There will be ceasefire, the hostages will return, and Nathaniel
Speaker 5: will find a way to manage it politically with the
Speaker 5: opposition parties here in Israel.
Speaker 2: He seems to always find a way to survive, if
Speaker 2: one way or another. I mean, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for your analysis today.
Speaker 1: Thank you Mary, very helpful.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, It's our pleasure.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching. Well, a great
Speaker 3: jow for everybody tomorrow and we'll see you all then.
Speaker 4: But speak, speak to