1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to an odd location edition of Packers 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Unscripted from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He's 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Wes Hodkoitz. We're coming to you from Indianapolis, Indiana, or 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: just north of it, I guess. And we've been here 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: since Wednesday. The Packers had a joint practice against the 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Colts on Thursday. Preseason game is coming up on Saturday. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: How are you enjoying indian so far? 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: Wonderful, Mike. 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: I mean, the one thing that's really neat about Indianapolis is, 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: out of all these NFL cities, I feel like I 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 3: know what the best. We've spent so much time here 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: between the NFL Scouting Combine all these years. Coincidentally, this 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: is one of two NFL stadiums I've yet to cover 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: an actual game in oh I've been there for when 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: the Combine used to have the media center inside Lucas 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: Oil in February, I was here for the Royal Rumble 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: WWE professional wrestling sports entertainment, But I've never got actually 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: covered a football game here. So this particular trip for 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: me a little bit more sentimental, and fortunately I will 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: also give credit to the Indianapolis Colts their practice facility. 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: From a media standpoint, from a viewing standpoint, probably the 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: best joint practice I was able to watch as well. 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it. Actually, it was a really it 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: was a really good setup. Other than the bugs and stuff, 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about that on it. 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, we forgot the bugspray Moor Day. 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: We did not bring the bug spray with us, but 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: that aside. Actually, we need to provide some updates here 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: because literally not more than ten minutes after we turned 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: the cameras off on Tuesday, we went into a press 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: conference with general manager Brian Gudakun's Tuesday morning and found 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: out that Packers quarterback Jordan Love is out this week. 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: They're hoping to get him back next week. He has 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: had a procedure done on his left hand because of 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: a torn ligament in his left thumb from his last 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: the last play, his last play of the preseason game 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: against the Jets where he was scrammed and then he 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: got tackled for a sack. So a very different week 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: than we anticipated with Jordan Love not being here. But 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: the good news is that everything sounds like it's on 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: track that Love is not going to miss any regular 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: season time. It's just a question of how much can 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: he do when he gets back into practice next week, 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: and then how quickly can things ramp up to then 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: get ready for Week one against the Lions. 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: You know, and I'm gonna bust off the old I 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: haven't used it years, but the old like the Mike 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: spoffor let's be real moment of the week, and that 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: is the fact that Jordan Love in Monday's practice was 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: handing the ball off with his throwing hand, which is uncustomary. 51 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: You want to be able to do that with the 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: left hand. If you're in the middle of the season, 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: you do what you gotta do. But as Love was 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: saying to you and the other reporters, this is the 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: time of the year. You want to go into the 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: regular season as healthy as possible. And from my perspective 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: at this very moment when I'm writing Insider Inbox and 58 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: answering some of these questions, my thought on everything is 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: he had a full off season in Green Bay. He 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: did the full installs in the first two weeks of practice, 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: which in training camp practice, which is really the second 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: run through of the installs, So the grasp of the 63 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: offense and what the Packers want to achieve is there, 64 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: and then lastly, he needs to get healthy. These receivers 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: need to get healthy. Yes, you want to get him 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: some reps with Matthew Golden and save Yon Williams, but 67 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is Jayden Reid's banged up 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: right now, Dantavian Wicks has been down for a little 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: bit with the calf injury, and then you also have 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: Rome Dobbs going down with this back issue in practice 71 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: earlier this week. So in addition to the fact that 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 3: Christian Watson isn't back yet, so get him healthy, get 73 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: these receivers healthy, and go from there. He seems to 74 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: be in really good spirits and it was cool seeing 75 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: him at practice as well. He was still doing his 76 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: typical handshakes with all the running backs. He was going 77 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: through the motions like everybody else. But ultimately, this is 78 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: about the Detroit Lions. It's about Week one, and this 79 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: is the move that best gets the most one hundred 80 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: percent version of Jordan Love there. 81 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: And that's really what the whole decision was about, because 82 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: he said if this had happened in the regular season, 83 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: he'd probably try to play through it, hope it would 84 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: heal on its own and just get better as things 85 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: go along. But because of when it happened in the 86 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: time timeframe prior to week one, there's enough time to 87 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: heal from the surgery to get things as close to 88 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: back to normal as possible. So that's why the decision 89 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: was made. Jordan Love had to battle through a bunch 90 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: of injuries last year. There was the knee from the 91 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: play in Brazil, and then eventually a groin injury and 92 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: some other things. He doesn't want to start the season 93 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: feeling less than one hundred percent. He wants to be 94 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: all the way there when that ball is kicked off 95 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: against Detroit. 96 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: And it's a long season, Mike. 97 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: Seventeen regular season games is a long way to go, 98 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: and the Packers, especially this year, are going to play four. 99 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: Before that bye week. 100 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: So anything you can do to get this team as 101 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: close to one hundred percent possible is going to be 102 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: obviously preferable. The tough situation for the Packers from my 103 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: vantage point is that first week of training camp practice 104 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: they were very healthy. Now mind you, the pads hadn't 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: gone on yet, yeah, but it looked like everything was 106 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: trending in the right direction. A couple soft tissue injuries 107 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: pop up. A couple of injuries here to these receivers 108 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: and it kind of changes the tone. 109 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: A little bit. 110 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: But all that being said, I feel like they are 111 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: able to still get into work. They want to be 112 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: able to, you know, administer, be able to install and 113 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: the byproduct and the nice thing is too a guy 114 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: like Malik Willis, who was not here for training camp 115 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: last year, does get these opportunities to run with the 116 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: number one offense, the number one offensive line. So yeah, 117 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: Jordan Love trying to get him to the Lions game 118 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: and then obviously go from there. 119 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we did watch the joint practice here in 120 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Central Indiana. We were in Westfield as I'm trying to 121 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: learn Central Indiana geography while we're around, because we're not 122 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: in downtown Indian until like we usually until the game, 123 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: which is where we usually are for the combine. You 124 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: were watching the Packers defense versus the Colts offense. I 125 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: was watching Packers offense versus Colts defense. So I will 126 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: start with this because you were just talking about Malik 127 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: Willis the number one offensive line, but then sort of 128 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: the the backup group of receivers and you know, quite frankly, 129 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: it was. It was a rough day in this joint 130 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: practice for the Packers offense, particular in the passing game. Really, 131 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: I should specify it's it's not that there were you know, 132 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of protection breakdowns or this or that. You 133 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: could just tell that they weren't able to get into 134 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: any kind of a rhythm offensively. They just you know, 135 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you hit a play here and there, 136 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: but nothing that was sustained, nothing that was consistent. It 137 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: was a frustrating day in that. Regarding credit to the Colts, 138 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: their coverage was tight. They did get some pressure on 139 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: Willis at times, but it was a tough day. I 140 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: did think that running the ball, I thought the Packers 141 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: did some pretty good things. Now, you never know for 142 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: sure when the tackling isn't live. You don't know exactly 143 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: is Josh Shacob's going to be tackling at that moment, 144 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: or is he going to be able to slip by 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: that guy, break the tackle there, that kind of stuff. 146 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: But I thought, on balance, the Packers' run game looked 147 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: like it showed up to play. 148 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: And obviously you watch the offense. 149 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: I didn't get to see any of it because where 150 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: I was down on the other opposite end of the 151 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: field and the practice facility. But I'll say this before 152 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: I get into the defense, Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Goodson 153 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: could find no running lanes for the most part when 154 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: they were going up against the Packers' first team defense. 155 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: They were getting stuff within the first five yards. So 156 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: if you see Josh, you're right, does he go down? 157 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: Does he not go down? There was an interesting anecdote 158 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: that I know you were able to get as well 159 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: about trying to gauge whether or not you get brought 160 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: to the ground. But the fact that Jacobs was breaking 161 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: through I think still does speak some volumes to things, 162 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: and also the other at the way to look at 163 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: this thing too. From again, my perspective is these are 164 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: ultimately a lot of the guys that are gonna be 165 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: playing in this preseason game. It was a little bit 166 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: different than the joint practices from the offensive sense that 167 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: we've seen in the past, because a lot of times 168 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: it was the first team starters, it was the top receivers, 169 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: it was Jordan Love getting in that work before ultimately 170 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: sitting on the sidelines on Saturday. So as difficult and 171 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: as frustrating as some of those moments may have been 172 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: for the passing game. I'm curious to see what it 173 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: looks like on Saturday when you are now going up 174 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: against a lot of the backups for the Indianapolis Colts 175 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: and seeing if those guys can maybe use some of 176 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: those experiences from Thursday and put it towards a better 177 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: effort on Saturday. 178 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, you were watching the defensive side of things, 179 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: and the Packers defense had a pretty strong day by 180 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: all accounts. You were there for all of it. What 181 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: stood out most to you? 182 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: It was just an wrest of performance all around, I mean, 183 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: and the tone was set from one on ones on. 184 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: I mean they the defensive front in particular, they were 185 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: just having their way with that Indianapolis Colts offensive line 186 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: and off the edge, I thought Rashaun Gary Lucas Vans 187 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: started the pressure party, both of. 188 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: Those guys, and especially Vaness. 189 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: I mean he had a terrific rush right off the 190 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: beginning for a sack of Anthony Richardson, and that just 191 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: kind of seemed like it started every single play. If 192 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: he wasn't sacked, he was under pressure. They had a 193 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: hard time in the eleven on eleven periods getting any 194 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: type of downfield passing game going. They had some success 195 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: with it in the two minute, which was sort of 196 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: the little bit of the you know, the caveat to it, 197 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: and that was the part that the Packers' defense afterwards 198 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: was talking about. They wish they would have finished stronger, 199 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: but by and large, after what happened against the Jets, 200 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: and I was talking with Kenny Clark about this after 201 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: the practice, you know, they felt like they need that 202 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: was a wake up call for them. And as Kenny 203 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 3: said to us, I mean, he has not really spoken 204 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: in the postgame locker room very often during his ten years. 205 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: Packers have had a lot of leaders, a lot of 206 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: more vocal people that. 207 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: They've handled those responsibilities. But in that instance, he said 208 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: he had some stuff on his heart that he needed 209 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: to get off his chest. And the big message there 210 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: was He's been around some really talented Packer teams. He 211 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: believes this Packers team can be right up there with them, 212 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: but we have to be able to carry through everything 213 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: we do during the practice week into the game settings. 214 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: And they didn't do that against the Jets. 215 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: And I felt like every emphasis that Green Bay preached 216 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: when we were talking to the coaches, when we were 217 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: talking to players this week. 218 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: They came through with that in this practice against the Colts. 219 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know that that opening drive for the 220 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: Packers number one defense last week against the Jets didn't 221 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: sit well. Justin Fields took the Jets down, they got 222 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then that was kind of the end 223 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: of the action for the starters. So they had that, 224 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, marinating, you know, for a few days, and 225 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: I thought they came out and really really took it 226 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: to the Colts and another sign of that the Colts 227 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: are trying to figure out on their side of things 228 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: whether Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones is going to be 229 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: their starting quarterback for the upcome season. After practice, of course, 230 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: that was the big question for Shane Stike and the 231 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: head coach, like, hey, you know, where are things at 232 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: with the court, And he really didn't make any commitment 233 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: on one quarterback or another, which tells you neither one 234 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks stood out enough for the Colts to 235 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: be able to make a decision here. 236 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: One percent, And I'm glad you brought up that point 237 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: about the mobility of Justin Fields, because one thing I 238 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: actually didn't get into my story that I probably should 239 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: have was the emphasis that the defensive players had in 240 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: practice and also going into this joint practice this week 241 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: that they were going up against another mobile guy. Yeah, 242 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: and honestly, Daniel Jones kind of fits that category too. 243 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: He's a guy that will take off. 244 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: They ran plenty of Reid option concepts and the Packers 245 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: defensive front, I mean, obviously you're not going to touch 246 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: the quarterback, but they had their run fits where they 247 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: needed to be. They did not get burnt on anything 248 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: in that regard, so that was a positive sign. And 249 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: the other aspect too that I liked, and in addition 250 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: to the three interceptions that they had was Javon Buller 251 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: being able to punch out the ball from from Mitchell 252 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: the receiver from the Colts. We heard from Jeff Habay 253 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: this week talk about that preseason game against the Jets. 254 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: They have this huge emphasis on forced fumbles and it 255 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: didn't carry through in that preseason game against the Jets. 256 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: The Packers were back punching at the ball. In this practice, 257 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: Evan Williams ended up picking that ball up, running it 258 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: back for a touchdown and obviously would have been a 259 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: touchdown or not. 260 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: That's up for you to decide But the fact is 261 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: is the point of emphasis was there. 262 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: The Packers were looking for the ball, They were gunning 263 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: for the ball, and several times they came up with 264 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: the ball. 265 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well a few more thoughts here before 266 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: we go, but we do need to pay some bills 267 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: even though we're away from home. 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Take your gar to the next level with 277 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: a pit Boss wood pellet grill. Pit Boss Grills available 278 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: at Minards. Welcome back to our on location edition of 279 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted in West I want to get to your 280 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on what you're looking for in this preseason game 281 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: coming up at Lucas Oil Stadium on Saturday. But one 282 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: last thought on the joint practice, because we have to 283 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: talk about Brandon McManus. Yeah, how fun was that? Like 284 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: he now he was? He had a really good session 285 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: they did. They put the Colts field goal rush team 286 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: out on the field and so the Packers were practicing 287 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: their kicks and the same thing was happening with the 288 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: reverse on the other field. McManus, as it has been 289 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: typical of this training camp, had a really good session, 290 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: booming some long kicks upper forties in distance, fifty five 291 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: yarder right through he hit a fifty six yarder I 292 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: believe it was, and it was good by plenty, like 293 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: he had a little bit of a breeze at his back, 294 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: but he absolutely nailed it. So then when the Colts 295 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: left the field, then the other Packer guys are leaving 296 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: the field. He kept Matt Orzick and Daniel Wheel and 297 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: his snapper and a holder out there. They did they 298 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: just set up for one more quick kick and he 299 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: lined up for a seventy yard Of course, Jacksonville's Cam 300 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Little in the Jaguars preseason opener hit a seventy yard 301 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: field goal. So McManus is like, all right, I'm gonna 302 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: give this a shot, and so of course he can 303 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: kick it a little bit lower because there's no rush 304 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: coming from the other side. But he drilled it and 305 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: it hit the crossbar almost right smack dab in the 306 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: middle too, hit the crossbar, bounced up and went over. 307 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: The crowd that was watching it definitely, you know, let 308 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: out a roar of approval. It was. It was a 309 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: pretty neat thing, but just another sign of how locked 310 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: in Brandon McManus has been since training camp began. 311 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: In two things here about the special teams. The first 312 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: one on McManus, what a hypocrite I look like, because 313 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: I just got done an insider inbox this week saying 314 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: why would kickers be trying. 315 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: Seventy yard field goals? 316 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: You don't need to make the team, you don't need 317 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: to get yourself hurt. 318 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: And after Cam Little does it, there's Brandon doing it 319 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: as well. 320 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: But didn't want to be upstage. 321 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: I'll say this. 322 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: In this kicking preseason. 323 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: Game, right and rich Basacia talked about the work that 324 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: he put in this offseason, and Brandon said it himself. 325 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: He feels like he came back in the best shape 326 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 3: of his career. I know, that's kind of a cliche, 327 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: but he really feels like you know, they talked about 328 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: him being a twenty two year old kicker with his 329 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: experience and the other thing I think we sometimes forget 330 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: about too. When Brandon mcmanons broke into the league a 331 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: decade ago, he was known for his leg like that 332 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: was one of the big things when you know, when 333 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: he was trying to get in with Denver, everyone knew 334 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: his leg strength and it was just about honing the 335 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: rest in and. 336 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: Obviously at thirty four years young, showing he can still 337 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: do it well. 338 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he wasn't just making long field goals in 339 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: Denver because of the ALTI stude and all that kind 340 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean, the leg has always been there 341 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: for Brandon McManus. 342 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: So I want to mention this too about special teams 343 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: because one of the fun things one I think there's 344 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: not a lot to write about it because we just 345 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: typically don't Media coverage doesn't emphasize the third phase, especially 346 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: in practice, but joint practices might be the most beneficial 347 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: day of all because of what you said, whether it 348 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: was the field goal rush team, whether it was the 349 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: kickoff coverage team, punt returns, you are going up against 350 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: another unit, and for the most part it's kind of 351 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: a live rep. And what impressed me is that, well, one, 352 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: you take some notes, right, you and I have been 353 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: covering this team a long time. You can kind of 354 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: start to see the trends of the roster. A guy, 355 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: a seventh rookie, seventh round pick, Michael Robinson was on 356 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: the kickoff cover team. 357 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: That's a big thing for a young guy. The number 358 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: one kickoff cover team. 359 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: That tells you what rich pisach and these coaches are 360 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: thinking of what the young man's doing. In two I've 361 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: been saying it a lot. I will eventually write it. 362 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: It'll probably be another week or so. But if you 363 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: ever want another we focus so much about the receiver 364 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: cornerback thing with bow Melton. If you ever want a 365 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: really good feel for what this guy does and why 366 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: he ultimately has been as successful as he's been. 367 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: Watch him on punt coverage. 368 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I made this comment this past week and 369 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: I said he is, in my opinion, one man's opinion, 370 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: he's the best flyer the Packers have had since Jeff Janis. 371 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: Now some people are like, what about Jared Bush? Thanks 372 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: for checking your notes, Jared Busch's last year with the 373 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: Packers was in twenty fourteen. Jeff Janis was drafted in 374 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. Appreciate you keeping up, But the fact of 375 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: the matter is is that bow has the speed. Oh yeah, 376 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: and he has just that relentless tenacity. We saw it 377 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: in one of the joint actually was the practice on Tuesday. 378 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: It wasn't even the joint practice where the Packers set 379 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: up a double team against him. He split it and 380 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: he got down the field to force of you know, 381 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: a fair catch. So much is on Daniel Wheelan. It 382 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: is his job to get that ball down there and 383 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: give his gunners and give everybody as much time as 384 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: possible to get down the field. 385 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: But bo melting with. 386 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: Four to three whatever speed makes it a lot easier too. 387 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: And as we're making this, you know case for him 388 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: in the cornerback transition, don't forget he's been a very 389 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: pivotal player on the Packers special teams as well. 390 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. Well, the second preseason game 391 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: is on deck here at Lucas Oil. It'll be Saturday afternoon, 392 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: a noon Central time kickoff, which is kind of nice. 393 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: It's awesome from a work standpoint, UFC pay per view 394 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: at night, I get home for the entire thing. 395 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: There you go, Well, we have to stick to that schedule. 396 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, especially in training camp. 397 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: Well, UFC A side, what are you looking for on Saturday? 398 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: What will your eyes beyond in terms of watching what's 399 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: going on with the Packers? 400 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, it will be a great opportunity 401 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: for Malik Willis and Sean Clifford and obviously Taylor elder 402 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: Zima being able to get some more reps in this game. 403 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: You're not trying to get snaps to four quarterbacks, You're 404 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: only trying to get them to three. They've obviously had 405 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: more practice reps this week. You hope that that can 406 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: help them all out. But I actually am really interested 407 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: to see the running game for Green Bay because Israel 408 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: Abana Kanda also returned at this practice. He was missed 409 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: one with a hamstring tweak but ended up being fine. 410 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: He was formerly with the San Francisco forty nine ers. 411 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: They brought another running back into the mix this week. 412 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: The one position where they've kind of gotten healthier though, 413 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: is that backfield. Emmanuel Wilson and Marshaw Lloyd both returned. 414 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur before practice was asked about Lloyd and just 415 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: what his reps are going to look like. He wanted 416 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: to make sure he got through that particular joint practice 417 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: before figuring that all out. But you had to edit 418 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: me this week, Mike, when we were writing the Insider 419 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: Inbox column. 420 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: This might be the most. 421 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: Excited I've been to watch a player in a preseason 422 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: game because, as Lloyd even talked about it as locker 423 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: this week, it's basically, well, it has been almost a 424 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: year since he played an NFL game. Coincidentally, it was 425 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: the Colts in that regular season opener. But as he said, 426 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: even just to have like a consistent amount of reps, 427 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 3: it really got to go back to his time at 428 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: uc USC. So he has the explosiveness, he has the power, 429 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: he has the speed. There's a reason why this guy 430 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: was a third round pick and Daniel Jeremiah guys were 431 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: talking about him being the best running back in that 432 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: draft class. 433 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: And now we finally get it, hopefully a chance to 434 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: see it. 435 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: He's had the right mentality and now hopefully he can 436 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: actually get out there and do it on the field. 437 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been an interesting week as far as the 438 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: Packers backfield because as you said, Emmanuel Wilson, Marshaun leyd 439 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: have come back from injuries. They're looking to get some 440 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: snaps in this game. A Banakanda missed a practice, but 441 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: he's back as well. And we had talked on our 442 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: last show about Damar Johnson from the preseason opener against 443 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: the Jets and and what he did. I will say 444 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: this as far as watching the Packers running game ye yesterday, 445 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of good things that were 446 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: going on. If I were to pick one of those 447 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: backup running backs that really stood out to me in 448 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: terms of the really running hard, like we talked about 449 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: with Johnson in the Jets game, it was Chris Brooks. 450 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: Chris Brooks brought it to the Colts yesterday. He was 451 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: not shying away from contact at all, not to say 452 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: that any of the other guys were, but just watching 453 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: the reps that Chris Brooks got, it was like, okay, 454 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: was he had some kind of a purpose out there 455 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: that that was maybe a little bit different. So this 456 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: whole backup running back battle and how the know how 457 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: what the pecking order is going to be when the 458 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: Packers get to Week one games like this and next 459 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: week against the Seahawks are going to go a long 460 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: way and determining. 461 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: That that's an excellent point. 462 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up Chris Brooks, because sometimes you 463 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: can be sort of the forgotten man of this party 464 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: just because of how darn consistent he is and in 465 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: a lot of ways, Mike, I don't like playing the 466 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: comparison game. I obviously never liked doing that insider inbox. 467 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 3: But the more I watch him, the more he does 468 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: kind of remind me of that Jamal Williams type back, 469 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: a guy that had a natural foundation for pass protection, 470 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: for pass catching. 471 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: You're seeing some of the stuff they do with the 472 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: two backs. Stuff. 473 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: He comes in out of nowhere after being getting injury 474 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: settled in Miami, signs the Packers practice squad, and by 475 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: the end of the season he's the featured guy in 476 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: that there's times now where the Packers will utilize him. 477 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: We saw it in some of these practices. The Packers 478 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: have been utilizing him and then using Emmanuel Wilson as 479 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: the second pack It's not even that it has to 480 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: be the Josh Jacobs show all the time. Chris Brooks, 481 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: in addition also providing a presence on special teams. Definitely 482 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 3: got to keep an eye on as well. 483 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: Well on the defensive side of the ball against the 484 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: Colts in this preseason game. I think what you'd really 485 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: like to see is the guys who played well on 486 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: defense with the reserve units last week, can they do 487 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: it again? Can they stack the performances. And I'm talking 488 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: about guys like Colby Wooden up front, Tyron Hopper at 489 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: the linebacker level, and then in sort of a different 490 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: vein Isaiah Simmons at linebacker, who's been having a really 491 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: strong camp. The Jets game didn't really go the way 492 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: he wanted it to, but then he had a big 493 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: interception in the two minute against the Colts. Had a 494 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: really solid joint practice here in Indy. So does that 495 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: carry over for him now into the second preseason game 496 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: as a guy like that, a veteran guy who's trying 497 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: to find a role on this defense and whatnot as 498 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: he's fighting for a roster spot. 499 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: I loved his run fits too, man. I mean, yeah, 500 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: the interception, everybody kind of saw that. But earlier in 501 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: practice the Levnon elevens, when I was talking about Jonathan 502 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: Taylor not really having a lot of room Isaiah Simmons 503 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: did a phenomenal job of closing in. He kind of 504 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: has that explosiveness that Edrin Cooper has where he can 505 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 3: get to the spot quickly, and I felt like he 506 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: did that. The other guy, too, is obviously Tyrone Hopper, 507 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 3: and I keep talking about him over and over and again, 508 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: and the main reason for that is it's just this 509 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: depth of the inside linebacker room is why I think 510 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: we haven't seen a lot of him. It's not that 511 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: he's not ready for it. I mean he is getting 512 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: massive reps as the number two Mike linebacker. I made 513 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: the comment I don't know how you felt about it, 514 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: but an insider inbox, there would have been a time 515 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: ten years ago where they would have drafted Tyrone Hopper 516 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: and he would have been in the starting lineup on 517 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: day one. 518 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, next to aj Hawk. 519 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: I mean like they just were that hard up for 520 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: inside backers for a long period of time. 521 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: They were moving outside guys inside. Now they have this. 522 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: Embarrassment of riches at that position, and fortunately for them, 523 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 3: unlike the receiver spot, right now, they've been able to 524 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: keep that unit healthy. 525 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, we will be off to Lucas Oil 526 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: Stadium very soon, but for now we will call it 527 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 528 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: to follow continue to follow all of our coverage of 529 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: training camp and of Saturday's preseason game from Indie. We'll 530 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: have it all for you on Packers dot com for Wes, 531 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: I am Mike. Thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We 532 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: will see you next time.