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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Ready for a

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Speaker 1: big weekend as the Texans concluded their offseason practices this

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Speaker 1: week and look forward to training camp which gets started

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Speaker 1: in late July, of course, and it can't come soon enough.

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Speaker 1: Players on a break, but nobody really takes a break.

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Speaker 1: They're working out constantly. They know that they can't afford

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Speaker 1: they've been working out. Of course, preseason games get started

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Speaker 1: in August with the Green Bay trip and August twenty

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. So tonight, let's talk a little bit with

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Speaker 1: Robert Prince, new wide receivers coach. Then we'll visit with

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Speaker 1: Mike Keith, voice of the Tennessee Titans, a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into their situation. Man, so much going on in Nashville

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Speaker 1: this offseason and Deep City. In the deep Slant interview,

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Speaker 1: which you need to be paying attention to online or

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Speaker 1: wherever you can get it YouTube, she'll catch up with

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Speaker 1: John Grenard, former outside linebacker now defensive lineman, will find

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Speaker 1: out how that position change is going as the Texans

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Speaker 1: moved to more of a four to three kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: I know they played a bunch of four three type

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Speaker 1: of defensive looks last season under Romeo Cordell. But Lovey

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Speaker 1: Smith brings his system here, all right. Speaking of assistant

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Speaker 1: coaches like Lovey, well, here's Robert Prince. Robert Prince wide

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Speaker 1: coaches in Texans history. I'm not going to go to

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Speaker 1: them all, but remember Kippy Brown was the very first one. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan comes in with Gary Kubiak. People forget he

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Speaker 1: was a wide receivers coach here before he became offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator and started the rest of his career with his

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Speaker 1: John Perry of course, and Larry Kirksey after Shanahan and

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Speaker 1: the Kubiak regime, Larry is a head coach in this

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Speaker 1: spring league. You've been seeing Fox Sports one and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they showed on the Big Fox channel

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Speaker 1: spring football. No matter how you slice it. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to Robert Prince here, who was born in Japan and

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Speaker 1: has coached a lot of places. Like a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys who have been around a long time, He's coached

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Speaker 1: You go back to the Seattle Seahawks in two thousand

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Speaker 1: He was with the Jags from O seven to oh eight,

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Speaker 1: So you want to talk about here in the building before, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get into all of it with Robert Prince, who talked

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Speaker 1: about how it was going out of the field with practice.

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Speaker 1: It's been great to work with these guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: first of all those guys, they're very willing workers and learners,

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Speaker 1: clinic every day with different techniques. Coach. One of the

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Speaker 1: things that has been referred to you as a CEO,

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Speaker 1: the chief Energy officer. Where does that come from? Why?

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Speaker 1: Why were you given that moniker? I mean we watched

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Speaker 1: But where does that come from? How? How did that

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where it started, but you know

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Speaker 1: With our staff, it was me. I was the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: those fundamentals. Coach. We talk all the time about when

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Speaker 1: But here you have Brandon Cooks, who's an established veteran.

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Speaker 1: That's the main thing, right, I mean as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: right for sure. You know, like you said, had Calvin Johnson,

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Speaker 1: An Kwon Bolden was unbelievable. Coach. Last year, we've talked about,

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Speaker 1: And you know that's where it started from, is you know,

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Speaker 1: it and guys were great about it. Coach, a little

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Speaker 1: How does the corporate team thing work in Japan? Oh,

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Speaker 1: So that's how we got the players. And there are

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Speaker 1: fair playing field, man. I can imagine the recruiting stories

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Speaker 1: are nuts, coach. Last one for me, how do you

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Speaker 1: say rock and roll in Japanese? Uh? Rock and roll?

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Speaker 1: vrabel was on the team, so what about him as coordinator?

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Speaker 1: Real happy with how Shane has embraced the fact that

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Speaker 1: he's in charge. The first thing that you see is

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Speaker 1: he's not coaching the outside linebackers anymore. So now he's

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Speaker 1: freed up to walk around the entire defense. Last year,

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Speaker 1: as he was the not named core dator, he was

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Speaker 1: still a position coach, and so I've seen him with

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Speaker 1: different groups throughout OTA's kind of wandering around and being

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Speaker 1: able to, you know, work with the various positions, talk

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Speaker 1: to the coaches. He certainly has taken a more commanding role.

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Speaker 1: Vrabel is allowing him to do that. You know, Shane,

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Speaker 1: He's smart, He's very disciplined. I think, especially with having

439
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Speaker 1: better players than what he had last year, I think

440
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Speaker 1: it's going to work out a lot better for it.

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Speaker 1: But I like him very much. It was tough to

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Speaker 1: see him get a hard time from the fan base,

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Speaker 1: but I think people now understand, as they've heard him

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Speaker 1: talk in this offseason, that it's a little different now

445
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Speaker 1: that he has the name beside it, that Vrabel is

446
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Speaker 1: handing him more and to listen to him. He certainly

447
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Speaker 1: impressed the fan base that he sounds more like the

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Speaker 1: guy who's in charge. Mike Keith, Voice of the Titans

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Speaker 1: joining us on Texans Radio. What do you think of

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Speaker 1: the schedule, Mike, Oh gosh, I mean, you know what

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Speaker 1: it would be like. Doesn't every team say this? You know,

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Speaker 1: you you look at a stretch of it and you say,

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Speaker 1: we've played Buffalo in Kansas City, you know, within six days.

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Speaker 1: We you know, we've got you know, big division games early,

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Speaker 1: we've got some tough travel late. We've got the West

456
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Speaker 1: Coast this year. We're gonna go to Seattle in week two.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play Sunday night football against the Rams in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, which, as you know, from the travel standpoint,

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Speaker 1: that complicates things because now you've basically lost Monday and

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Speaker 1: you're turning around getting ready for an opponent, getting ready

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Speaker 1: for New Orleans in the in our case. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's listen, it's gonna be really challenging. And I think

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna see two out of a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams this year because the cat money has been so

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Speaker 1: tight and the movement has been different, and I think

466
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Speaker 1: you're going to continue to see movement as some veterans

467
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Speaker 1: who are lower paid are gonna jump in and take

468
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Speaker 1: jobs different places. I think this is gonna be a

469
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Speaker 1: year like last year where we don't really know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know Kansas City's gonna be good. I get that,

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Speaker 1: but we really don't know everything about the AFC until

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Speaker 1: we get to about Thanksgiving. I think, much like Tampa

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Speaker 1: took off in early December, I think you're gonna continue

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Speaker 1: to see that sort of churn. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams are gonna look the same for the first ten, eleven,

476
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Speaker 1: twelve weeks of the season, and it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: battle of survival. And it may well be somebody who's

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Speaker 1: seven and five after twelve games is able to make

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Speaker 1: that big run. Who if you see him in September

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Speaker 1: or October, you don't think they'll necessarily be able to

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Speaker 1: do it. Listen, we got a lot of new personnel

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Speaker 1: on defense, a lot. Getting Julio Jones in June is

483
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Speaker 1: a good thing because like we got Jadevi in Clowney

484
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Speaker 1: last year in September six, that made that whole situation hard,

485
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Speaker 1: you know, made that difficult to get him in and

486
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: he was never physically one hundred percent and he didn't

487
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Speaker 1: quite understand all of the different things they wanted him

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Speaker 1: to do. Well, now you get Julio Jones in June.

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Speaker 1: He may show up for mini camp next week, but

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Speaker 1: he's certainly going to be there for the start of

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Speaker 1: training camp, and I think that's going to be a

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Speaker 1: help to this ball club. So I'm optimistic, but I'm

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Speaker 1: also realistic as to what the challenges are going to be.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Mike, the division thumbnails start with Jacksonville much better.

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Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville I think very logically they could be

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Speaker 1: nine and eight. I think that, I really do. I

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Speaker 1: like what they've done. I don't think they were as

498
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: bad as what everybody thought they were a year ago.

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Speaker 1: I like the quarterback. I think he's a real player.

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Speaker 1: Their schedule is more favorable than probably most because they're

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Speaker 1: playing the last play schedule. They've got the London game,

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Speaker 1: which they're used to doing. Yeah, I could I see

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00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: them getting to seven, eight, nine wins absolutely all right now.

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00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: Indianapolis obviously some changes there. Quarterback the most notable thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I like Carson Wentz. I like what he You know,

506
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: We've We've got Ryan Tannehill. And when we got Ryan

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00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: Tannehill in a trade, everybody said so right, I mean

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Speaker 1: they really did, and the reason was because he had

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00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: played pretty well in Miami, but he had been no

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Speaker 1: great Jakes Well, I wonder if Carson Wentz isn't gonna

511
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Speaker 1: be Ryan Tannehill back with Frank Reich in a system

512
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Speaker 1: where they have weapons they can run to football, it's

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Speaker 1: a really good offensive line. I think that's that's a

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Speaker 1: great fit for them, and for what they paid for

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Speaker 1: him and what they're paying him, it's a great move.

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Speaker 1: They have held off the trigger a little bit in

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Speaker 1: terms of spending money because they've got to pay Quenton

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Speaker 1: Nelson and Darius Leonard next offseason. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've spent much time with this, but if for

520
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: all the people who thought they were going to trade

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Speaker 1: for Julio Jones because they have so much cap room,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got two guys that they have to

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Speaker 1: keep that are probably going to cost them three times

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Speaker 1: as much as what they cost him right now. So

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00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna hold tight on some of their money. But

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Speaker 1: they watch Indianapolis over the next three months, mark because

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot they can do to continue

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Speaker 1: to add veterans to this roster and make them a

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Speaker 1: better team going towards camp and then going towards the

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Speaker 1: start of the regular season. They also open with two

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Speaker 1: home games, which is advantageous. So from where you sit,

532
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: how hard is it to get a beat on what

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Speaker 1: is happening with the Houston Texans and what might happen

534
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Now that's all about the quarterback situation.

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Speaker 1: I like the moves in terms of adding veteran players.

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Speaker 1: It's very New England esque. It's something that John Robinson

537
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: did when he came in here in twenty sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: we went from five wins in twenty fourteen fifteen to

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Speaker 1: nine wins in his first year in twenty sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: so I can see Danny. There's a professionalism, there's a

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Speaker 1: no how Yes, it's about keeping guys healthy and things

542
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: of that sort. But it's a really interesting ball club. Mike,

543
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: always a pleasure to catch up. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: the time. We appreciate it. It's great to be with you. Mark,

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00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. There's Mike Keith, voice of

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, and man, when you look at their

547
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Speaker 1: development here, John Robinson has done a terrific job with

548
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Speaker 1: them because he took over in twenty sixteen, and remember

549
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: the Titans were coming off terrible years two and fourteen,

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Speaker 1: three and thirteen. But Robinson arrives, they don't make the

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00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: coaching change yet, Mike Malarkey is still and they go

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00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Okay, remember they beat the Texans last

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Speaker 1: game of the regular season. The Texans kind of laid

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00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: down a bit in that game, but still they went

555
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Following year, they put together another nine

556
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Speaker 1: and seven, but this time they go to the playoffs

557
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and malark he's the head coach, and they beat the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs in the wild card round on the road. But

559
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: they make the coaching change the following year and go

560
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: to Vrabel and they go nine and seven, nine and seven.

561
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Speaker 1: But we all know in twenty nineteen they went to

562
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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Games. So they're dealing here under John Robinson.

563
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: The GM just take that side of it. With five

564
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: consecutive winning seasons, had a real big overhaul in twenty sixteen.

565
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: Sam familiar following the three and thirteen campaigns, so give

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Speaker 1: him a lot of credit for helping turn that thing around. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Next up, it's John Grenard and Dpcito in the Deep

568
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Speaker 1: Slant interview. Get to know this Texans pass rusher, former

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Speaker 1: linebacker now defensive lineman. Let's find out what the story

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Speaker 1: is on Texans Radio. Mark VanderMeer with you Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: Great to catch up with Mike Keith in the last

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Speaker 1: segment and Robert Prince Wide Receivers Coach in the first segment.

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Speaker 1: In fact, this program will be on the Texans App

574
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: soon enough. You can listen to it live right here

575
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Speaker 1: or on the app later whenever you want to. This

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Speaker 1: segment will hear John Grenard, Texans former linebacker now defensive lineman,

577
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Speaker 1: really a defensive end, likely in that Levey Smith four three.

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00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: We haven't seen exactly how they're gonna line up obviously

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00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: an opening day, but also in training camp. We saw

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00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: some stuff in OTAs, but they didn't show their hand

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Speaker 1: too much, especially when the media was out there. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good idea. Grenard, though started his

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Speaker 1: college career at Louisville, ended up at Florida. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: have to say Louisville. The people from Louisville don't like

585
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: it when you say Louisville. You say Louisville. That's just

586
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: how you do it, Okay. I'm just telling you how

587
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: it is all right, Just like the people from Nevada

588
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: don't like Nevada. Don't ask me, I didn't make the rules. Anyway,

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00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: you'll hear plenty about Grenard and DPC, who does these

590
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: Deep Slant interviews. She's been doing them for us, and

591
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: she joined the team back and oh my gosh, twenty thirteen,

592
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: it's been a while. Does a terrific job, and you know,

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00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: she's a great story herself. Sometime we have to do

594
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: a podcast on DP because she started her career as

595
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: an electrical engineer or some kind of engineer for Texas Instruments. Yeah,

596
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: she studied electrical engineering at Purdue and then got her

597
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: MBA and then worked for Texas Instruments. So naturally, sports

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00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: reporting was the obvious next step in her career. No, Actually,

599
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: she loved sports, always always wanted to go to radio

600
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: in high school. I think her parents kind of pushed

601
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: her into that engineering field, you know, steady living. Gee,

602
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: what fun is that? Here she is today doing great

603
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: things for the Houston Texans on TV radio writing all

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00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: of it. Anyway, let's hear from Deep Cito and John

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Speaker 1: Grenard in the Deep Slant Interview. Welcome into the Deep

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Speaker 1: Slant one on one presented by exciting my guest John

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Speaker 1: Grenard John. I haven't talked to you since the end

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Speaker 1: of last season, but we've heard from me a little

609
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: bit this offseason, and so much has changed, obviously with

610
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: you heading into year two, so new coaching staff, a

611
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: new position, knew everything. So let's let's just start there.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with everything being so new, because you talked

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00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: about it a little bit in your press conference last

614
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: year versus this year. What were you doing this time

615
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: last year? How do you compared to what you're doing now? Man,

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00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: It's crazy, this is what June seventh, June eighth, Yeah,

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00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: June seventh, June eighth. I was still trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out where I could work out it honestly, you know,

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Speaker 1: as you know, COVID just changed everything, so we kind

620
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: of had to just go with the flow and do

621
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: what it was allowed for us. So I was still

622
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: trying to find my ways to work but overall not

623
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Speaker 1: just feel a huge difference is now having a chance

624
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: to work out all the way from January now. My

625
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: body feels more comfortable, feels stronger, feel faster, just feel

626
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: more better overall, flexible, Just feel better as an athlete

627
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: and as a person mentally as well. So everything just

628
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: worked out now and everything's kind of slowly going back

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Speaker 1: to normal. So now I can get back into my

630
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: regular routine of having a certain amount of workout, certain

631
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Speaker 1: amount of meals per day, getting trained and work done

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00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: on me stuff like that. So all of that just

633
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: helps him makes it be ready for when that time

634
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: comes in late July. Yeah, you get to do OTAs

635
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: out there in the Houston humidity, in the Houston heau

636
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: get your offseason program. Man, what about meeting Lovey Smith,

637
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: because now you've actually got to work with him, You

638
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: got to work with the new coaching staff a little bit.

639
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: Your impressions of him and what it's been like for

640
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: you switching to new position at defensive linemen. Yeah, it's huge.

641
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, love is what respect around

642
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: the game of football. Um, not just an nfil but everywhere.

643
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: So it has been honor. I've watched him growing up

644
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: as a child, so now able to play in this scheme,

645
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: and I know what they've been about. Even back in

646
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: that historic defense Chicago, Um, there've been no for turnovers.

647
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: So now we just gotta get to that point. I

648
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: think that's the huge emphasis now in our defense. You know,

649
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: just change your mindset and not only want to play

650
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: with get the ball back. I mean, that's that's huge.

651
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: We can change it. We can change a lot with

652
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: on our side of the football by just making a

653
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: turnover giving enough ball back to offense. So overall, I'm excited.

654
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's a huge honor. I'm looking forward

655
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: to learning a lot more, getting deeper in the playbook

656
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: and understanding how he thinks. Want to break his mind

657
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: down to see how he thinks about football to help me.

658
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: So overall, I'm excited. I love it. Well, you had

659
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: said that one thing that you wanted to work on

660
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: this offseason with your flexibility literally being flexible and then

661
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: also positionwise, and and I thought it was interesting because

662
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: Lovey talked about guys that had to make the position change.

663
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: He said, football player as are adaptable, they have to adapt,

664
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: they have to be flexible. And he said that for

665
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot of players making that change sometimes it actually

666
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: benefits their skill set. And you were one of the

667
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: guys that he mentioned by name that your skill set

668
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: is really it's pretty perfect for the defensive end in

669
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: his four three system. So what are your thoughts on that?

670
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: What makes you fit so well in a system. I

671
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: know you've played defensive end in the past. This isn't

672
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: like a new position for you. But but what do

673
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: you think it is about about your skill set that

674
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: really lends itself to this position. I just kind of

675
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: work around what I what I feel good at, what

676
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: my body feels that it can do to put myself

677
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: in the best situation. I've said, I got to get

678
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: a lot stronger, got to get faster always, so it's

679
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: always room from improvement. But overall, like I said, it's

680
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: defensive end is it's not too much of a difference. Obviously,

681
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: just to change it up a little bit is going

682
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: from that three fourth scheme where I'm playing most time

683
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: on tight ends, I'm dropping the coverage most times, it's

684
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: not It's not the case here. Now I'm playing a

685
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: true defensive veld. Now I have to go play on

686
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: their side of the football. Set the edge, you know,

687
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: gona make a play in the back for getting TfL,

688
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: go get sack, get quarterback. This thing is I'm more comfortable.

689
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: I love to just go after the quarterback. But overall,

690
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: I said, I'm just I'm excited to get get started.

691
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean, getting deeper in this playbook and we got

692
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: a lot of competition on here coming for camp, so

693
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yeah, you'll be going up against a lot

694
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: of offensive linements. So does that mean that at your

695
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: position you have to put on weight or will you

696
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: be playing a little bit lighter? Is that something that

697
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: you have to to think about. That's the things. Uh,

698
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: it kind of just going based off of what your

699
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: body is. I mean, I'm naturally me. I'm already about

700
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: a two seventy. If already I could be at two

701
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: sixty five, I can drop way, i can gain weight.

702
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: That's kind of a thing I've been able to do

703
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: all my life, just my weight. But overall, yeah, you're right,

704
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: I'll be playing more down handing the dirt, playing against

705
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: the top tackles and things like that. But at the

706
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: end of day, it's still football and the skin that

707
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: we played last year obviously in the three fourth scheme period. Overall,

708
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: m it's a little different. However, it's football and you're

709
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: sitting on the line of scrimmage and most guys will

710
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: kind of tell you coming from a three fourth outside

711
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: backer to the end, it's it's everything. Because now you

712
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: have less coverage responsibility. You really just gotta just go

713
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: and make a play and play on a run. Obviously,

714
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: they can switch it up a little bit for scheme

715
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: to scheme, but overall, now you're a true defensive end

716
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: and go do what you do, what you're known naturally

717
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: to do. Do you think it makes it easier that

718
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: you made the switch earlier in your career, rather than

719
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: playing a linebacker for a number of years and then

720
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: making the switch. Do you think that makes it any easier,

721
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: because it really wasn't that long ago that you were

722
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: playing defensive lineman, right, Yeah, it's it's kind of like

723
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: I said, it's cool. Um, however, I kind of adjust

724
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: as you see. I mean I really just you tell

725
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: me to scheme, me tell me to play, and I

726
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: can go with it from there. So at this point,

727
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: I just honestly just want to be able to be comfortable.

728
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: Uh just play my own play my own scheme within

729
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: the system, obviously, but just be comfortable. And I think

730
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: playing defensive man all my life that kind of has

731
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: made it to where I can I'm back on my natural,

732
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: natural habitatic to say. All right, so a lot of

733
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: things changed in the offseason. One thing that didn't change

734
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 1: your position, coach is still Bobby King. So he moves

735
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: from linebackers coach to defensive line coach. He seems really

736
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: excited about it. But how much has that helped your continuity?

737
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: He sort of knows what you can do, knows what

738
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: you do well, knows what where you need to learn

739
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: and where to fill in the gaps of your skill set. Yeah,

740
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: BK is I mean, like I said, bek is huge

741
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: on details. I mean he's he's very passionate, but he

742
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: loves the game of football. You can see that from

743
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: miles away just watching him coach us up. Um, he

744
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: wants to just be the best type of not just

745
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: the best player, but the best person, best human being.

746
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: And I think that kind of translating the game as

747
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: far as your passion towards anything and if you're gonna

748
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: do something, to do it give you all. And I

749
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: think that's what he preaches us on everything. So um, yeah,

750
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: me and BK we go away bad. That's that's that's

751
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: a that's a good guy. Um. Actually his cousin was

752
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: actually our partner at Louisville, so we kind of cut.

753
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: We got a lot of history. So me and selling

754
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: me really good. So BK is a good guy. Well,

755
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: he he had a lot of nice things to say

756
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: about you as well. He said he's expecting a good season,

757
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: a really good season from you. That you're a no

758
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: nonsense kind of a guy. You're not a follower, you're

759
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: a leader. And he said he's gonna use his hands,

760
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna shock you. He's gonna play tough, play violent.

761
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: So is that how you would describe your style of play? Hey, man,

762
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: I let the tape do the talk. I can't really

763
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: do too much right now, but before Yeah, that's that's

764
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of like all I want to lead into. I mean,

765
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: that's that's the identity you kind of want being in

766
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: this scheme. So yeah, he gave me that title. I'll

767
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: take it. So I just gotta put it on the

768
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: film now show. I'm ready, all right. So, when you

769
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: look back at your rookie season and what was your

770
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway, what was the biggest lesson you learned? Because

771
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: now you've got some games under your belt, you're heading

772
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: into year two, you've got a little bit of experience,

773
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: what's the biggest lesson you take from that. I just

774
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: gotta take everything in a stride. Things happen, everything has

775
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: y'all see, everything's happening, and it's some things you can't

776
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: control it. You just have to go with it and

777
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: adjust on the fly. Another thing is just to continue

778
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: to work, do the same things that you've been doing

779
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: the whole time, and let that let that result speak

780
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: for itself, don't. You don't have to put any expectations

781
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: on anything. Just go with it. I mean, you obviously

782
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: have your goal in your mission, but overall, you just

783
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: gotta go out and play it and keep living because

784
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean, the things that you can't control always going

785
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: to happen, so you just got to just take it

786
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: on the fly and keep going. So that's what I

787
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: learned the most. All right, you don't have to look

788
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: for a gym, but you do have about six weeks

789
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: or so off before the start of training camp. I

790
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: know you said you're not gonna take it too easy,

791
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna take a little bit of time off. But

792
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 1: what are your plans to say in shape for training camp?

793
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: To get ready for training camp? How do you plan

794
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: to use these next few weeks? Like I said, just

795
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: get back to the workout. I'm getting my routine every day.

796
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: Take a little time off, give you body a break,

797
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it's it's got to get back

798
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: onto it. Of course, I want to be in Houston

799
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: as much as possible. I'm gonna get used to this humidity.

800
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: This is heat. Having that year fund of my belt

801
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: definitely helped. Having that year in Kynesville kind of help.

802
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's still you

803
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: kind of never get used to it. But overall you

804
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: understand how to how to cope with and put that

805
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: to the side. It's all mental, so um, overall, I'm

806
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: still gonna try to keep my regiments as routine as possible.

807
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: So is it worse than Florida humidity? The Houston humidity,

808
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: that's tough. I don't know. Games real humidity is different.

809
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: You know. We surrounded by that swamp. It's it's yeah,

810
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: that's honest to all that heat is coming from. So

811
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: I can honestly truly say the humidity and heat wise

812
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: over there is definitely I'm not gonna say definitely way hotter,

813
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: but it's definitely hot over there. Yeah. I think you

814
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: had some good training, but you're about to just tune in.

815
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna be all right, all right, Always a pleasure.

816
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: John can't wait to see what twenty twenty one brings

817
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: for you. Thanks so much, Thank you so much for

818
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: having me to have a good John Renard with Deep

819
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: City in the Deep Slab Interview. Fun to hear that.

820
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: Now I have some important dates for you to know.

821
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: Training camps around the NFL basically begin on July twenty seven.

822
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of questions about this, but that

823
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: doesn't mean practice begins on that day. They report there

824
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: will be some sort of ramp up period. Remember, they

825
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: did have the mandatory mini camps on the schedule, some

826
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: teams opting out of that. Some teams did it early,

827
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: like the teams that did it early this week. By

828
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: the way, folks, it's the same thing as OTAs I

829
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: mentioned this last night, the difference between an OTA practice

830
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: and a mini camp practice is nothing. There is no difference.

831
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: It's not like you can get into the pads for

832
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: mini camp or anything. It's just that mini camps mandatory,

833
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: and some teams had theirs this week just to get

834
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: it out of the way and they're off to their

835
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: summer break. I digress. So they're gonna have some sort

836
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: of ramp up period conditioning all of that. I'm not

837
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: sure when the first practices actually start, and when we

838
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: will be out there for Texans Radio on Sports Radio

839
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: six ten eight to ten am for the first ten

840
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: business days of training camp. I expect it to be

841
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: late that final week of July sometime, but we'll finalize

842
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: that soon enough. First preseason game is August fourteenth against

843
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Now that's gonna be on the road, obviously,

844
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: and we live forward to that. The preseason games are

845
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: easy to remember, all Saturday nights seven o'clockers Green Bay

846
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the road, and then the first home

847
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: game August twenty eighth against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now

848
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: every team in the NFL gets that by week in

849
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: what was traditionally week four of the preseason. That is

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Speaker 1: actually pretty cool because you get a week to recharge

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Speaker 1: the battery, teams are preparing for the open or anyway,

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Speaker 1: and it was always awkward to play that final game.

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Speaker 1: I know it takes the way opportunities potentially from young

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Speaker 1: players who want to catch on. I always kind of

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Speaker 1: like that fourth preseason game as a broadcaster and some

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Speaker 1: of the storytelling that can take place. But I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna spread the reps out and those guys will

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Speaker 1: get plenty of opportunities in the three they have allotted,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know anything about joint practice possibilities or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. We'll hear all about that soon enough.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for the season. Have a great weekend everyone,

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Speaker 1: and go Texans.