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Speaker 1: whether they did it or they did not do it.

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Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years ago, matt Riza, I think

429
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Speaker 1: I'm saying his name right, the punter who's now on

430
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, was accused of stuff at San Diego State.

431
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Speaker 1: Well a year later it turned out it was all false.

432
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Speaker 1: Chick made it up. He had nothing to do with it.

433
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Speaker 1: The Bills cut him after like two days. They didn't

434
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Speaker 1: even hesitate. And I think you consistently see when guys

435
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Speaker 1: get in trouble at other positions, you see what the

436
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: chiefs will Rashi Rice. It's like, yeah, we'll let the

437
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: situation play out. And that's universal in the NFL. This

438
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: isn't there's no morality in football. There is a business

439
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: and the bottom line is winning and losing. So you

440
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: always just like, let this thing play out. Let's see

441
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Speaker 1: if it goes away, let's see almost trouble he gets

442
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: into yeah, with kickers and punters. And there's a story

443
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: about last year on a Jacksonville flight when they played

444
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: in Europe flying back that he was super wasted touching chicks.

445
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't there, but neither of the commanders,

446
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: and clearly they don't care. They ain't gonna see this through. Yeah,

447
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: we're out of this business. You're a kicker. It's not

448
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: worth any blowback while this is taking place. And if

449
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: you are guilty, we want no part of you. And

450
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: if you are innocent, that's your issue, not ours. So

451
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: if you are a kicker a punter, you better avoid

452
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: any controversy at all costs or you will get cut immediately.

453
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Last week, my guy Jeff Schwartz forwarded me

454
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Speaker 1: the video where, you know a lot of these coordinators

455
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: do press conferences during the offseason, and he was clearly

456
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: asked about his head coaching aspirations and the situation last year,

457
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: and he gave a pretty bizarre answer. One thing he

458
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Speaker 1: said that you hear from like NBA players like I

459
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Speaker 1: want to go somewhere where I can get a second contract.

460
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: I want to go to the perfect situation. And I'm

461
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Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, the reason most head coaches get fired

462
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: is because it's a pretty bad chaotic situation. The team

463
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Speaker 1: you're with right now, the Lions, who are considered one

464
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Speaker 1: of the better teams in the league, we're about as

465
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Speaker 1: chaotic as you got. And then three years later the

466
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Speaker 1: reason they're good is the head coach in the GM like,

467
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: it's kind of you to change the situation. That is

468
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: why the job is available. Most jobs are not like

469
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen or whatever. The Green Bay Packers. Hey it's

470
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: a Green Bay Packers. We got thirty five year old

471
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Anyone want it. It's usually Brian Daball gets

472
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: fired this year. Yeah, Danny, Danny Dimes and Tommy DeVito

473
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: and not many good players interested. That's typically the NFL.

474
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Speaker 1: So I think he's got a warped sense of going

475
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: and listen, if you're a Lions fan, I'd actually be

476
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Speaker 1: pretty excited. Maybe he's just cool with being a number

477
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: two most of his life and luckily talk about timing.

478
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, top offensive coordinator and defensive coordinators

479
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: make three four to five million dollars. So you get

480
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: paid a ton of money. You don't have pressure of

481
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: half the team, you don't have to deal with any

482
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: of the problems. But you watch his speech for two minutes,

483
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Speaker 1: he doesn't sound like most aspirational coordinators. Sean McVay and

484
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan reviewed as two of the better coaches in

485
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Speaker 1: the league. Kyle Shanahan got to the forty nine ers,

486
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: they were two to ten. They were a joke that

487
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: their roster was awful. Sean McVay when he got the

488
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: Rams job, And listen, I'm probably guilty of this too.

489
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: You watch Jared Goff's rookie year, you're like, I don't

490
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna work. They might have a problem.

491
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: This is awful, and then three four years later you're like, yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: not awful anymore. Why because coaches change. It? Is Alabama

493
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: a great job or is Nick Saban great? Obviously it's

494
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: a really good job, but not everyone's doing what he's doing.

495
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: The coach makes these operations in college and pro in

496
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: football because of the impact they have on everything. So

497
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: like yeah, the Giants. If they fire Brian Dable, they've

498
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: run through a bunch of coaches. So the New York

499
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: Giants like it's a pretty good opportunity. A lot of

500
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: aspirational people in the NFL would be lined up to

501
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: try to get that gig. Ben Jon's like, this is

502
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: a little weird. I don't know if I get a

503
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: second contract. I've just never heard a coach talk like that.

504
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: And listen, I respect it if he just wants to

505
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: be a number two offensive coordinator the rest of his life.

506
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 1: That type thing, though, GMS and these owners see they

507
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: got a red flag on because he's already read flag

508
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: on him. Last year, his second year of being in

509
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: the cycle, he called Adam Peters and Josh Harris as

510
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: they were flying to talk to him for the second time.

511
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm out, Like, what could have just

512
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: told us after we talked to you and faked it? So,

513
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Something's a little off with this guy. Great,

514
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: nothing to do with his coaching. Offensive coordinator, he's awesome,

515
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: but part of the way we talk about these up

516
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: and coming coordinators, like is he the next Mike Shanahan,

517
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: is he the next whoever? Right, Once upon a time,

518
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: all these guys Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Andy wasn't a coordinator,

519
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: but the majority of guys around the league fall into

520
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: that position, offensive or defensive coordinator. I want a piece

521
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: of this guy. I don't know if that's the first

522
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: reaction when other owners, which again is incredible if you're

523
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: Alliance fan, because you will keep Ben Johnson forever as

524
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: long as he's willing to stay. But maybe there aren't

525
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: gonna be that many teams interested after hearing them continue

526
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Speaker 1: to talk. Okay, last, but not least tangent Tuesday. I

527
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: was at the gym on Saturday morning, trying to get

528
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: less fat, and like most gyms in the Cardio area,

529
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Speaker 1: we have probably three or four TVs. I guess we

530
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: got probably six TVs. Three TVs on one side, three

531
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Speaker 1: TVs on the other side, like lined up for the

532
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Speaker 1: ellipticals and the treadmills, and they most of the time

533
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: have games on right, basketball games, baseball games, football games, whatever.

534
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: And I looked up at the TV when I got

535
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Speaker 1: there and it was ten or eleven in the morning.

536
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not trying to be a hero on Saturday,

537
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Speaker 1: and it's Kaitlyn Clark she's playing. Then I get on

538
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Speaker 1: the treadmill. I look to the guy next to me.

539
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: He's probably mid fifties, pretty good shape. He had the

540
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: game on as well. It's like, shit, I'll get a

541
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: little sweat on watch Kaitlyn Clark play that never in

542
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Speaker 1: a million years would have happened a year ago, five

543
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: years ago. So the amount of popularity and interest she

544
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: has brought from sports fans, I'm a good example, just

545
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: like many of you are. Been a sports fan now

546
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: as long as I've been able to talk and watch

547
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: television for thirty plus years, never consumed any NBA content,

548
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: and I've watched everything soccer, Tennis, random sports, NASCAR F

549
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: one obviously the big sports. No WNBA content. Now I

550
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: pay attention. I'm paying attention to Kaitlin Clark. She has

551
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: brought me as a consumer. There are clearly players in

552
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: WNBA who are envious and don't like her and are

553
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: like taking her out, which is part for the course,

554
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: that's what happens in sports. Michael Jordan showed up, people

555
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: tried to take him out. Tiger Wood showed up. At first,

556
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys were talking shit. Bryce Harper showed up,

557
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: everyone was thrown at his head. When you get a

558
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: bunch of hype, people pushed back right away. Your competitors,

559
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: not us the consumer, but the competitors, because consumer want

560
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 1: to watch, but competitors, and they're going after which I

561
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: understand if you put me in their shoes. If I'm

562
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: just some chick on some random team, I might try

563
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: to take her out too. But what cannot be argued

564
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: is they say a rising tide lifts all boats. The

565
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: interest she has brought to the sport is quantifiable, it's undeniable.

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Speaker 1: There is some pressure on her because I use Tiger

567
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Woods and Bryce Harper as examples. Well, Tiger got there

568
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: and immediately started working everybody. Bryce Harper really early you

569
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: realize like this guy's a star. So after a while,

570
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: like what are you gonna do? Michael Jordan, like Isaiah Joe,

571
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: you want any more of this smoke because they plan

572
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: on destroying you. There is pressure on her like this

573
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: is cool, but I'm not paying attention in three or

574
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Speaker 1: four years if she's just average Now, I can't speak

575
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Speaker 1: to the to the roster construction. I saw dra On

576
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: tweeting that they need like a goon, like they needed Draymond.

577
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know do those exist in WNBA. Clearly

578
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: their team's not very good. They have the number one

579
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Speaker 1: overall pick, but it is incumbent if this is gonna

580
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: be a sustainable thing, because she's gonna have it this year.

581
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: But if she starts rattling off MVPs and becomes one

582
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: of the better players in the history of the sport,

583
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: it will not slow down. And obviously there's pressure on

584
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: the team to build a good squad around her. And

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00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: I can't pretend to know if she's some future all

586
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: time great or not, because I remember I was watching

587
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: the draft because I wanted to see her get drafted,

588
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: and they showed like a montage of Reggie Miller's sister, Cheryl,

589
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: and she was before my time. My dad used to

590
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: always say, he's like, she's the best women's basketball player

591
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: of all time, not even close. I watched that highlights.

592
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: There can't ever be a better women's basketball player. And

593
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Miller. If you put Cheryl Miller right now in

594
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: the WNBA in her prime, she would eviscerate everybody. So

595
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Speaker 1: if Caitlyn can become a version of that, which I'm not,

596
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope so, but I don't think

597
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: it's guaranteed this will end. I'm not saying next year,

598
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: but it's to sustain the hype. Like Tiger started winning

599
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: the Masters, Bryce Harper started hitting balls four hundred and

600
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: fifty feet off every pitcher, it has to come. Like

601
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: Lebron James by year two or three was like, Hey,

602
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: he's one of the best players in the league and

603
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating to watch. But these girls aren't

604
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: gonna stop going after But like I hope everyone realizes

605
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: she is your potential to financial winfall. Most of us

606
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: in business, when someone brings positivity and money behind them,

607
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: like you embrace them with open arms, like come on in,

608
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: you need my chair, you're thirsty, what do you need.

609
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: It's different in sports because you're competing, but it does

610
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: feel like there's a little people lose sight of this,

611
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: and the pushback on Tiger is a good example. And

612
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm not pretending she's gonna be remotely close to Tiger,

613
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: But after a couple of years everyone realized, like, yeah,

614
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: this guys bring a lot more eyeballs, a lot more

615
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: money for us.

616
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: All.

617
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: What's s embracist? Dude? Try to beat them. But hey,

618
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: come on, Tiger, you want my tea time and it's

619
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to what because a lot of think

620
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: pieces out there, a lot of people thinking like it's exhausting,

621
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Speaker 1: But I do think for this to keep going, she's

622
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: got to start kicking everyone's butt and they got a

623
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Speaker 1: ways to go because I I've watched a lot of

624
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: basketball games. The end of that game was tough. They

625
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: could barely get the ball pass half court. But she's

626
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: a fascinating story that there's there's no disputing that. But

627
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of those over the years. Tim

628
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Tebow is a fascinating story un till he couldn't hit

629
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: a slant rounde and you're like, this guy stinks. I'm

630
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: not saying she's that either, but we got a ways

631
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Speaker 1: to go. Okay, middle Cooff mailbag, You guys know the

632
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: drill at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those

633
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: direct messages. And we will start with Ben in your opinion,

634
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: what would be the trade value for a top coach

635
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: in the league like Kyle Shanahan or Andy Reid. Coach

636
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: trades have happened before more in the past, but now

637
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: are pretty much non existent. What is your theory and

638
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Speaker 1: the reason for this. Well, I would say the most

639
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Speaker 1: historic trade in the last twenty five years was Gruden

640
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Speaker 1: to Tampa and the reason he was traded because Al

641
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: Davis didn't want to pay him. So most of these teams,

642
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Speaker 1: like when you have Andy Reid or Kyle Shanahan or

643
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: Sean McVay or John Harbaugh, if that guy successful and

644
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Speaker 1: other teams want him and he wants more money, you

645
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: just give it to him, right. Andy Reid just got

646
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: a huge contract extension last year, Kyle Shanahan got a

647
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: huge contract extension last year. Sean McVay got a huge

648
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: contract extension. You just keep your own guys, you know.

649
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: Sean Payton was kind of unique in the It was

650
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: a scenario where he was just burnt out, then have

651
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback and just took a year off deep breath

652
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: and then was like I'm coming back. Well, they had

653
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Speaker 1: Dennis Allen and I don't think he I think he

654
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: was ready for a change. They still had to trade

655
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: for him, right. I think they obviously gave a first

656
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: last year. I think a second this year. I just

657
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: don't think Andy Reid Colt like those coaches wouldn't be available,

658
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Speaker 1: and I don't think we'll see a scenario where a

659
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Speaker 1: guy with a lot of value isn't wanted by his

660
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: own team, because if you're winning, you just keep that coach.

661
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Speaker 1: But like I said, I think the Sean Payton scenario

662
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: kind of a one off. But if another coach, like

663
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: if Kyle Shanahan was like I need a break, took

664
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Speaker 1: a off and the forty nine ers hire another coach

665
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: and he's still under contract for several years, the same

666
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: thing would take place. A couple ones they're true value

667
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: on the market, like if the Chiefs were like, well,

668
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Speaker 1: trade Andy Reid several first round picks. But it's just

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Speaker 1: it's not It's just not gonna happen. I think you

670
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: go back in the history of league, it was about money.

671
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: Teams were cheaper that the league wasn't making as much money.

672
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: So when you were gonna give a guy at the

673
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: time what it grewed and get from Tampa five six

674
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, it was because Al Davis won.

675
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Speaker 1: He didn't believe in paying coaches a lot of money.

676
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: And too, I don't even know if he had it

677
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Speaker 1: to pay him that much money. Good question, though it'd

678
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: be cool if more and more of that happened. But

679
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Speaker 1: I think we're at a day and age where those

680
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: days are kind of done. Who's higher on the hot

681
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: seat day Ball or Eberflus, Well, I think Eberflus just

682
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: has more pressure on him this year because of the

683
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: hype with the team. You get the number one pick, now,

684
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: you got a sweet quarterback. You won was it seven

685
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: games last year? You improve the roster dramatically on offense, right,

686
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: yet Caleb Williams upgrade, you add Keenan Allen, you draft

687
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: roma Dune say, is there a scenario if he won

688
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: ten games and let's just say he missed the wild

689
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: card because tiebreakers or whatever. I think he would keep

690
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: his job. But at nine and eight and the Bears

691
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, like not no tiebreakers whatever, You just

692
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: needed to win ten to get in. Probably depends how

693
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: it ends, Like does he lose the last week against

694
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: the Packers to get into the playoffs? Probably gets fired.

695
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: I eber Flus's pressures unique because of the pressure on

696
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Speaker 1: the franchise. Everyone thinks the Giants are gonna suck everybody,

697
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: probably including a lot of people around the Giants. They're

698
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: not gonna be very good. Their quarterback situation is a disaster.

699
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Speaker 1: So the other thing is their ownership has fired a

700
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Speaker 1: lot of coaches. They just I mean, look at post

701
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin. It's been a lot of guys in and out.

702
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Speaker 1: And if the similar situation happens where they're a tough watch.

703
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: The worst thing to be in sports is boring. There's

704
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: nothing worse I see it with. I don't want San

705
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Fransco Giants anymore. Why they bore me? They're not entertaining, Like,

706
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: give me Aaron Judge, gimme Sodo, gimme Bryce Harper. I

707
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: want to be entertained. And football's tough because you wait

708
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: all week the hype and when a season goes bad.

709
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: And I did radio for the Raiders when they were awful,

710
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: it's rough, man. I was in the Bay Area when

711
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers went to a rough stretch Post

712
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: Harbaugh pre Kyle when you stink like you can be

713
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: a five or six win team and unwatchable. And the

714
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: hard part is the pressure in the New York market.

715
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Speaker 1: If the Eagles are good, if the Cowboys make the

716
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Speaker 1: playoffs again, if Washington looks like they're on the come up,

717
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of pressure there. Now, how

718
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: long does day ball? How much equity does he have

719
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: from two years ago? Makes the playoffs? Wins a playoff game?

720
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: The thing with the NFL man not for long. Things

721
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: change quick. It's like stock up stock down. Because he

722
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: was I thought he was like the next Bill Varcells,

723
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: this chubby, tough guy, and then last year happened, which

724
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: was pretty embarrassing. I'm not putting the whole Wink Martindale

725
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: thing on him. Wink's the big ego guy too, but

726
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: that's an embarrassing situation for the Giants. That's not John

727
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: Mara doesn't want that crap question for the mailbag. This

728
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: might be a bit of a delayed question, but with

729
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Speaker 1: all of the changes in NC DOUBLEA sports, including NIL

730
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: and what seems to be the inevitable college football becoming privatized,

731
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Speaker 1: why hasn't the NC DOUBLEA done more to work with

732
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Speaker 1: professional leagues and organizations to create more of a academic academy.

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Speaker 1: I said, academy academy pipeline to help athletes be more

734
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Speaker 1: prepared for potential professional athletics. I know the percentage of

735
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: college athletes becoming pros is small, but the NC DOUBLEA

736
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: to become a middleman and work with the professional leagues

737
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: and the universities on curriculum based around what it takes

738
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Speaker 1: to be a pro athlete, PR, financial responsibility, social media.

739
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: There are plenty of organizations who have similar professional relationships,

740
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: but this could bring true value to the universities and

741
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: create more sports oriented professional careers. Would love to hear

742
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: your thoughts. This may even be a vehicle for the

743
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: NCUBA to say face. I think the nc DOUBLEA as

744
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: it becomes, you know, much more to mimic the NFL.

745
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: The NCUBA is sol. I mean they are DOA. It's over.

746
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: I don't think the nc DOUBLEA when it comes to

747
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Speaker 1: football has that much longer of a runway. And I

748
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: think what you're saying, the programs provide that when you

749
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Speaker 1: go to LSU, when you go to Texas, when you

750
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: go to Ohio State, when you go to Bama, when

751
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: you go to USC, when you go to Oregon, like

752
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: they deal with they help you with that stuff. Dan

753
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: Lanning has people, Nick Saban has people, Kirby Smart has

754
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: people like they have literally everything you could possibly want.

755
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: And I'm sure now financial advisors PR stuff. You have

756
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: a PR team in college football. What the hell's the

757
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: nc DOUBLEA gonna bring to the table. I think the

758
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: nc DOUBLEA one thing, and we've known this for a

759
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: long time, is going to get rendered more and more relevant.

760
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand. You know, the NCAA doesn't own the

761
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: college football playoffs and basketball. It's a little different because

762
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: they own the March Madness, so you kind of got

763
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: to play by their rules. Why does college football care

764
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: about anything? Anyone in the NCUBA says, honestly, I don't

765
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: get it at this point in time. Like last year

766
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: the situation in North Carolina with Tes Walker who trains

767
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: for like fifteen times but ultimately became eligible like in

768
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the season, and Drake May and Mac

769
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: Brown were really outspoken for it. I forget what round

770
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: he was drafted, and maybe the fourth or fifth, I

771
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what team, but he was he

772
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: was drafted this year. Why wouldn't they just say, yeah,

773
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: we don't care, we're gonna play them anyway. What are

774
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Vacate vacate what we don't We don't

775
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: agree with you. You're not the government. You can't arrest me,

776
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: you can't fire me. I don't understand why some of

777
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: these schools, and it's probably up the food chain with

778
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: the president. They don't want to deal with it. But

779
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: I think the NCAA is I would say dying a

780
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: slow death, but I actually think the death is is

781
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: in full swing. I think they're I think they're done.

782
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: And like you said, all those programs and stuff that

783
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: that's what these college football programs provide. And the reality

784
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: is the overwhelming majority of guys on these teams are

785
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: not gonna have NFL careers, So the preparations about much

786
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: more than football. It's about life, and I think all

787
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: the good coaches in programs provide that. Now it's on

788
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: the kid to take advantage of the situation, because if

789
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: I walked into Oregon, Texas, you name it, ole miss

790
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, even the bad Power five Florida, I mean,

791
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Penn State is no offense. Every single starter thinks they're

792
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: going to the league, every single one, and every young

793
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: backup thinks they're going to the leak every single one.

794
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: We know that's not the case, but while you're there,

795
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: and I don't blame a kid for thinking this at

796
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty years old, it's hard to like diversify.

797
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: You know your mind, but you have an opportunity to

798
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: get really ahead because of all the resources provided for

799
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: you at these big programs. It truly is hell. When

800
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: I was at Fresno State No. Eight, No Nine, and

801
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: we had none of the resources compared, the avenues to

802
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: help you set up for life were there in spades.

803
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: So I think it's just gonna be fascinating when that

804
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: damn kind of breaks. But I think it's leaking water

805
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: right now, and there are cracks in the cement. It

806
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: just when does it open up? When do some programs

807
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: be like, Yeah, we're not dealing with them anymore. We

808
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: don't need them for football. Basketball is a little different.

809
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: Love the show. This may be way out of left field.

810
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: But with the Dolphins, if they know Tua can't get

811
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: it done in the cold, would it make sense to

812
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: trade for a strong quarterback prospect for McDaniel to get

813
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: the most out of the quarterback position. I don't see

814
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: how his limitations get him paid. It seems unlikely they

815
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: could get a top end prospect as they are too

816
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: talented to be a bottom feeder. Someone like Joe Milton

817
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: or Browning seems to be great for the scheme and

818
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: offense talent level. You know, as crazy as Jake Browning,

819
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: whose arms definitely better now. In college he probably had

820
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: one of the worst arms. That was you on a

821
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: really really good team. His arm was below average. It

822
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: shows you like you can improve, and I wouldn't say

823
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: Jake Browning now has a high end arm. The problem

824
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: with this, I mean, Browning's played, so you've seen them

825
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: in I don't know how similar to the Bengals and

826
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins offenses are played for play, but obviously there are

827
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: some similarities, Like you've seen that guy have some success.

828
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: When you trade for a Milton that type player, you

829
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: have no clue, You really don't. It's pretty rare that

830
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: the backup, I mean, we've seen cases for this, right,

831
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Matt Schobb once upon a time, was Vic's backup, Jimmy Garoppolo,

832
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: Brady's backup. You see backups that get traded and then

833
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: end up becoming really good starters, but it's few and

834
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: far between between. We've seen a lot of backups with

835
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: a lot of hype, a lot like a draft pick.

836
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: It's pretty risky. You do know you can win games

837
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: and compete to make a wildcard with TUA, but there

838
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: are bigger pictures at play once you start talking about

839
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: forty five to fifty million dollars a year, because that

840
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson contract. The floor for Tuist contract is one

841
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: hundred and Jared goffs that that to me is insane.

842
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: That picture of him being really skinny jealous. I need

843
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: to get what he's on. Ozampic maybe, but he looked

844
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: small in that picture for sure in the show. In

845
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: your opinion, what team do you think could have a

846
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: season like the Texans did last year? A team that

847
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: no one thought would be good at the beginning of

848
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: the year but turned out to be musty TV very competitive.

849
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: A few candidates in my opinion, the Cardinals. I don't

850
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: think they're even close to talented enough. The Colts in Washington.

851
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: The thing I would say about the Colts is they

852
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: were dropped passing the flat potentially away from winning that division,

853
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: and the Texans wouldn't have been in the playoffs. I

854
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: think the Colts are gonna be good. I would expect

855
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: the Colts to be a double digit win team. Now.

856
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll be better than the Texans,

857
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: but they were good last year with Minshew. With Minshew

858
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: as a Flaccobeah Minshew trying to keep keep up with

859
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: I guess Flacco's there now a lot of quarterback moving chairs.

860
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: I just think the Colts, most people are going to

861
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: say they're going to be a solid team. The Cardinals

862
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: their division stuff. They have the least talented roster in

863
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: the division. The Rams and Niners are legit squads in Seattle.

864
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: Want to see how the coaching change works out. But

865
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: they just have a much more talented roster. Now Kyler

866
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: can freelance and make things happen. But I have a

867
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: hard time seeing them be in the playoff mix, maybe

868
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: a year away. That they do have a lot of

869
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: young players. I would say the Commanders, but they would

870
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: have to you know, he would have to be right

871
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: there with all the whoever the top rookies are. Is

872
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: like this guy's rookie of the year, Offensive rookie of

873
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: the year. If you tell me right now, Jaden's offensive

874
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: rookie of the year, I'd be like, yeah, nine wins,

875
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: it would definitely be on the table. It's just so

876
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: much unknown with young quarterbacks. I think we often think

877
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: that everything's going to be seamless. I don't care who

878
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: you're playing with it. It can be difficult and maybe

879
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: we're we're jaded to it because Herbert when Tyrod took

880
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: the needle to the kidney, came in and was awesome. Obviously,

881
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: CJ last year had a historic year, but there are

882
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: a lot of rough patches right that. There are a

883
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: lot of like, hey, it's going to take a little

884
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: time for a lot of good players. I mean, Jared

885
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: Goff was terrible. Bryce Young looked like an AFL player.

886
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: You just never know. It's why I'm a little I'm hesitant.

887
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: No different with Caleb. I think he's going to be

888
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: an upgrade over Justin fields in this year. Could have

889
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: some rocky moments. Maybe I'm nuts, Maybe he's just sweet

890
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: love the pod my Daily. Did you see the clip

891
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: of Bosa saying party will get paid next year? Thought

892
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: this was interesting coming from a player. Do you think

893
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: he knows something for sure, like management telling veteran players

894
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: Pertty is our guy of the future or is he

895
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: just backing brock Well. One thing I noticed a couple

896
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: of years ago with the forty nine ers. They have

897
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: a core group of guys, yes, and they either believe

898
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: in you or they don't. I think they knew Jimmy

899
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: had limitations, but they were cool and felt comfortable going

900
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: to war with Jimmy Garoppolo. When Trey Lance started, it

901
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: got weird, and it got weird fast. Deebo wasn't that

902
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: big of a fan. Fred Warner never supported him like

903
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: he did Brock Purty, So Trent Williams. I mean, all

904
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: these guys gravitated toward Jimmy and then Brock and never

905
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: did Trey. It's not a personal thing. This is a

906
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: business trying to win, and I think they know they

907
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: can win with Rock Party because they've been winning with

908
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: Brock Purty. So I just think Nick Bosa thinks he's good.

909
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: Why because when he's been on the field, the forty

910
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: nine ers have kicked ass. So why does Kyle Shanahan

911
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: and John Lynch like, hey hey, Nick, here's a contract

912
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: that we're gonna give Purty. No, I don't think that.

913
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that happens. But I think it's pretty clear.

914
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 1: One Kyle loves him, and two, I just think it's

915
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: simple results on the field. Nick's been there a while now,

916
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 1: he's seen it all. He played with Jimmy, he's played

917
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: with Trey Lance, and he's played with Rock Party. He's

918
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: won a lot of games, and the guy he's won

919
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: the most with and the team been the best with

920
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: has been brock By I mean a country mile. Jimmy

921
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: had moments when he was a good player for the

922
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. He was definitely much more of a

923
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: game manager, but he was a good starter. Brock Purty

924
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: is way better than Jimmy Garoppolo, not even close. Throws

925
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: a better deep ball, much more mobile, much more just

926
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: under control. Was listening to the podcast and just want

927
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: to know those pool cleaners are called both on the

928
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: top and for the bottom. My top pool cleaner, I

929
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: don't have the names in front of me. The bottom

930
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: one is like the most it's like seventeen hundred dollars.

931
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: It was. It was a lot of money. But my

932
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: pool guy swore, he said, just buy the more expensive one.

933
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: All the other ones you get for five six hundred dollars.

934
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: Is going to Amazon. Type in pool cleaners and it's

935
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. And I was like, this

936
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: is insane, but he's like, I'm telling you, the other

937
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: ones will break down. This one is sweet. The top

938
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: one type it into Amazon. I think Bretta maybe is

939
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: the name of the company. It's solar paneled, so you

940
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: just put it in the back of your pool. You

941
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: never touch it. It just runs on something all night long, too,

942
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: because it gets so much during the day. It's pretty

943
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: damn good. I've been very impressed, even though I dropped

944
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: the little bucket because there were a bunch of bees

945
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: in it and I didn't want to get it on

946
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: my hand, so I kind of held it over the fence,

947
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: which behind is like kind of a wash to the street,

948
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: but there's a decent amount of over, like a ten

949
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: foot kind of wall retaining wall, I guess they call

950
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: it in the construction business. And a bee was falling

951
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: on my hand as I thought I was gonna get stung,

952
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: and I let go and I had to scoop it up.

953
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: Took me about an hour, but I swear by this thing.

954
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: It is good. And luckily I still had the manual

955
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: pool cleaner because I used that thing to sweep it.

956
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get stung, because they say,

957
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if this true or not, that even

958
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: a dead bee can sting you. I've been stung by

959
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: a couple of bees, and I don't know if I'm allergic.

960
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: But I remember the last time I stung, it look

961
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: like I got shot. Why doesn't a coach like Kevin

962
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: Stefanski that's clearly a good coach, but in a bad

963
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: situation leave for a better opening when their contract expires,

964
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: like the Chargers of the Bears openings last year. Well,

965
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: obviously the Chargers. Won't you take Jim Harball over Stefanski.

966
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: I think here's the problem. Like anyone in any business,

967
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: when you're in a contract, you're making a lot of money.

968
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: And Stefanski, I don't know exactly how much he makes,

969
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: but let's just pick he makes eight million dollars a year,

970
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: maybe nine. I think he got a contract sent maybe

971
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: nine million dollars. If you have two years left on

972
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: your deal, like, I'll play this out and I'll become

973
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: a free agent. What if it goes poorly? What if

974
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't go well? So when they go, hey, we're

975
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: paying you eight here's a three year, thirty million dollar

976
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: contract extension, so you you will guaranteed make money for

977
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: the next five years, whether you win another game or not.

978
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: I just think it's very hard to turn that down.

979
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: No one ever does. You're not guaranteed anything in the NFL.

980
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: It is a bizarre situation, right that Deshaun Watson now

981
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Vrabel works there. Stefanski's clearly a really impressive guy. He's

982
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: a good coach. Browns fans probably think I'm a hater.

983
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm not. I like Stefanski. I think the GM has

984
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: done a good job. I don't think you can win

985
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson making as much money as he makes.

986
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: He's not a good player. We have no data for

987
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: years now that he's any good, and now he gets

988
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: injured a lot. So I don't care. If Stefanski's Bill Walsh.

989
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: You can't overcome that. And then it's like, well, bring

990
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: Flacco back. Well they couldn't do that. Why because you

991
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: factor in the team dynamics. What if Watson looks poor

992
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: early on? Who are the fans gonna want to see

993
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: the guy that led us to the playoffs last year?

994
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: So they let Flaco walk and they bring in Jameis

995
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: Winstons once it's not as good as Joe Flacco. Both

996
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: guys got the same amount of money. One guy went

997
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: to the Colts, the other guy went to the Browns.

998
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: So you chose to not bring Flacco back with a

999
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: guy who's now missed a bunch of time for injuries

1000
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: for several years and just has not been objectively bad.

1001
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: He's had one good half really in his Browns career,

1002
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: because you were worried about what I would consider the

1003
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: inevitable Browns fans like, hey, give a time, okay, but

1004
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: you didn't even want to deal with that. And in fairness,

1005
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: you've given him all this money and he's guaranteed all

1006
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: this cash. It's probably not worth it. But people have

1007
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: asked me before, like what would be the hook on

1008
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: him in the sense of, like when would you go

1009
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: to the bullpen if it's not going well? I think

1010
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: you're all in. I think it has to get really bad.

1011
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: He's getting this year to sink the ship. Like if

1012
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: he's just a bad player and you missed, you win

1013
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: seven eight games because he's average and it's easy to

1014
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: see in the AFC, especially in his division, think about

1015
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks you're playing, Like you guys know you know

1016
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: what looks good and what doesn't look good, and what

1017
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: you invested in this guy and traded for him. It

1018
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been remotely close. You didn't think you were getting

1019
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, but you're thought and you were getting like

1020
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: a pro Bowl level guy. Love the pod. I actually

1021
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: switched to an iPhone just to make it easier to

1022
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: access your content. What kind of phone you had? Would

1023
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: you have a Samsung? I think iPhone? Don't they eighty

1024
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: five percent of the cell phone market iPhones? So welcome

1025
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: to Welcome to the crew. Question for the back longtime

1026
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Lions fan. If the Lions go on to have another

1027
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: offensive successful season, Ben Johnson is likely finally gonna take

1028
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: a head coaching opportunity. H can you give me insight

1029
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: into the search process for hiring the next oc for

1030
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: most organizations? Like do you think Brad Holmes already has

1031
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: some names in mind? Knowing Ben Johnson is a hot name,

1032
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: are they possibly already grooming someone underneath him on the set?

1033
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: Curious how it works in the league? Well, big picture,

1034
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: I would not feel you're always worried because if a

1035
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: coordinator dominates, which he has now for a while, he's

1036
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: always going to be in the mix. I do think

1037
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: that press conference, in what happened last year with Washington

1038
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: and two years ago the interview cycling, I think there

1039
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: are some weird vibes about him as a head coach

1040
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: fantastic coordinator. Awesome for you guys. You guys benefit from this.

1041
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: I do not think he's a lock, even if you

1042
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: have the same exact season to become a head coach. Now,

1043
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: if he goes, there are two ways to look at this.

1044
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: One if there's a young guy on the staff or

1045
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: someone on the staff. When I was in with the Eagles,

1046
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: we had Matt Naggie who was a quarterback coach, Doug

1047
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: Peterson offensive coordinator, Marty Morningwig Like it was clear when

1048
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: someone left who would be the next job, and it

1049
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: ended up playing out that way in Kansas City. So

1050
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: Andy's always grooming eyes on offense because he's working with him.

1051
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: I've seen it with Kyle does the same thing. There's

1052
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: like a hierarchy, and when a guy takes a job,

1053
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: the next guy kind of takes that role. Now, when

1054
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: you're the offensive play caller as a head coach, it's

1055
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: a little different, but it's similar. You're kind of getting

1056
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: guys ready for that next role to help you out. Obviously,

1057
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: in Dan Campbell's situation, he's more Mike Tomlin John Harbaugh

1058
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: in the sense of the CEO head coach. Is he

1059
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: doing that? Is there? I don't have their staff directory

1060
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: out in front of me. But do they have a

1061
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: couple guys the quarterback coach, maybe a run game coordinator

1062
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: that he feels confident that could step into that role.

1063
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: Because that wasn't Ben Johnson coaching tight ends and wide

1064
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: receivers or quarterbacks when he became the offensive coordinator two

1065
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: years ago. So when you have a guy on staff,

1066
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 1: do you feel confident doing or giving him the gig

1067
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: who's never been a play caller. It's risky, but that's

1068
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: part of being a head coach. And then if he

1069
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: doesn't feel that way, they definitely have lists, and I

1070
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: mean the list become pretty obvious. You start looking at

1071
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: the best offenses and you start interviewing quarterback coaches, you know.

1072
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: So it's why does Kyle get so many coaches taken

1073
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: or McVeigh because you just go right to whoever is

1074
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: quote unquote their offensive coordinator or quote unquote their quarterback

1075
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: coach and you start talking to them. So I think

1076
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: that's the way it usually goes. Ideally you have a

1077
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: guy on staff, but sometimes you don't feel good about that.

1078
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: And let's face it, unless the guy has a track

1079
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: record of doing it, you're taking an educated guess, but

1080
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: I would say an it's a part of being a

1081
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: head coach. We give so much, you know, we talk

1082
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: so much and put under a microscope how the team looks,

1083
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: the play calling, the execution, the timeouts, the challenges during

1084
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: the season. I would say their biggest role outside of that,

1085
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: outside of the players getting them ready for the game.

1086
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: The scheme leading leader of men is that staff. And

1087
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: when you're good, you're gonna lose coaches, how do you

1088
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: is there a pipeline? Do you feel good about other coaches?

1089
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: You know, if you hire outside, you better get it

1090
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: right and it can be risky and you're gonna miss

1091
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: on some guys. But I don't know specifically their situation.

1092
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, I would feel pretty good about Ben

1093
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: Johnson having a pretty good chance of just him staying

1094
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: for four or five years, even though that never happens anymore.

1095
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: But I do not think he's some locke, almost a

1096
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: goat because I was reading an instagram here, but a

1097
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: lock to be a head coach, not saying it won't happen.

1098
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Something to keep, something to monitor,

1099
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: something to keep our eyes on. As a Chargers fan,

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01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to gauge my own expectations for the team

1101
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: after so many changes. Do you think they're currently more

1102
01:01:54,440 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: underrated or overrated by the general public of football fans. Well,

1103
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: you've clearly been pretty overrated for like a decade, right,

1104
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people, I'm guilty, not like Chargers twelve

1105
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: thirteen look at this roster and it was like, you

1106
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: got Anthony Lynn, or you got Mike McCoy, or you

1107
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: got Brandon Staley. Your roster's not as good as five

1108
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: years ago. But your coach is, I mean, borderline elite.

1109
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: He has consistently won in one big everywhere he's been,

1110
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: so I think fair expectations are this year ten wins.

1111
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you're winning the Super Bowl this year. Hell,

1112
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: you might not even win a playoff game. I'd be

1113
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: stunned if you're not in the ten win mix. Now,

1114
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: we'll see how the wild card shakes out. In the AFC.

1115
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: It's obviously hard, right, you got Buffalo playoff lock, Chiefs

1116
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: playoff lock Ravens. If Lamar's playing playoff lock, big question

1117
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: mark with Burrough's health. But if he plays all season,

1118
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be good. The Texans or the Jags

1119
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: or the Colts, Like, I mean, you're getting a playoff

1120
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: team there, so you start looking around, like, what's Pittsburgh

1121
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: situation at quarterback? The Browns, what's their quarterback situation? To me,

1122
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: you're right in that mix. The Jets a lot of

1123
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: question marks with forty year old quarterback, bunch of older

1124
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: injury guys. You guys are gonna be good. Might not

1125
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: dominate like you will in a couple of years once

1126
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: Harball gets more of his own guys in there and

1127
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: he the team that he won with with the forty

1128
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: nine ers he inherited. Obviously they weren't winning. It was

1129
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: loaded with players. He had a left tackle, he had

1130
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: a running back, he had a tight end, he had

1131
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: a linebacker. They drafted immediately a star pass rusher, Justin

1132
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: Smith was already on the team. Crabtree was there. They

1133
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: draft Bowman right away. I mean, they had impact guys everywhere.

1134
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, they resurrected that career. So if I had

1135
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: a guess right now, ten and seven could change my

1136
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: opinion after three weeks and be like, shit, maybe they

1137
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: won twelve because one thing with the Chiefs, are they

1138
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna win fifteen games this year? Probably not? Like we

1139
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: saw last year, kind of cruise control a little bit.

1140
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: Their team. Their margin for error is not as big

1141
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but they got a little golden state

1142
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: durant feel. We'll see in January. Guys see in the playoffs.

1143
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: We like our chances. Just get us the Make sure

1144
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: myhomes is healthy, make sure Chris Jones is healthy, make

1145
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: sure Andy Reid has a headset. We'll see in the

1146
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: cold from London. Never been, but actually was. We had

1147
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: dinner with a dude that was from an hour I

1148
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: forget the town hour outside of London. What's the town?

1149
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: It's a famous school. I can't think of it right now,

1150
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: but we were having some cocktails and he was telling

1151
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: them me all about him, Like god, I kind of

1152
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: want to go check out London. I started watching the

1153
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: NBA in two thousand and five and only started watching

1154
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: the NFL around twenty fifteen. In your opinion, what would

1155
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: the NFL need to do to extend the match in London?

1156
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: Paris and fun? But from my point of view, playing

1157
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl outside of the US and in Europe

1158
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: as an example, would be a huge benefit for the league.

1159
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how realistic that is, but as a

1160
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: non US fan, I would be really hyped up, and

1161
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: I bet some of the players would too. I don't

1162
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: know if the players would be because the game doesn't

1163
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: exist anymore. Like that's part of it. The game doesn't exist.

1164
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: They do not play football. It went from a flag

1165
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: football game to a skills competition. Are the player? I mean,

1166
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: I think the farthest thing want to go is like

1167
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: Vegas or Miami. I don't think one you would get

1168
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: great player participation over there, and two you don't get

1169
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: player participation in the game anymore. So the game is

1170
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: it's over, no one, void, no moss. I mean, it

1171
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore. So sending a bunch of dudes to

1172
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: score around, I don't think it would really work, and

1173
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: I think it just gets back to one. These guys

1174
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 1: are out on it in the US. I don't think

1175
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: when their season's over, some of these guys haven't played

1176
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, want to get on a

1177
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: flag and go to London. I just I hear what

1178
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: you're saying. I think they're better off just continuing to

1179
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: if you're going to do stuff over in that area,

1180
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: just play normal games, which I obviously they're continuing to do.

1181
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: But the Pro Bowl in theory, I think you know

1182
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: you should be onto something. The problem is that game

1183
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: and that week is done. It's over and in faarens

1184
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: to the players. I don't even blame them. I wouldn't

1185
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: want to get tackled. Hypothetical Penox question for this'd be

1186
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: the last one. Let's say Cousins is playing well through

1187
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: the first four games and then suffers a non related

1188
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: injury and is out for a couple of weeks, a rib,

1189
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: a concussion, whatever, It just like just a little pain, sideline,

1190
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: I hear you. And then Pennick steps in and plays

1191
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: at the same level of Cousins, maybe a tad below.

1192
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: When Cousins is cleared and ready to play, do the

1193
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: Falcon stay with Pennix and have a forty five million

1194
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: dollars a year backup, or if Cousins, If Penix comes

1195
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: in and plays better than Cousins Yet to me, if

1196
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: he's a little below, I think it's pretty easy. It's

1197
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: an easy one to sell. Hey, listen, we've invested this money.

1198
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't an upgrade. He got to get his feet wet.

1199
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: He goes back to be the backup. That's that's an

1200
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: easy one. If he were to come in and Cousins

1201
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: was solid and Pennix is equally as good or better

1202
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: and you're winning, that one's tough because, like I said,

1203
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: the player's impact on this. Players aren't dumb. These guys.

1204
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: You spend all this time training, practicing, studying, working on

1205
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: your body to win, to try to win, and whoever

1206
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: gives you the best chance to win, no one cares. Obviously,

1207
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: if you're friends with the guy, you want him to excel.

1208
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: But there have been a lot of dudes that have

1209
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: played professional sports that your friends struggling in the backup,

1210
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: even if you're not buddies with them, gives you a

1211
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: better chance to win. You want that guy to play.

1212
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: And I just think the natural, you know, the age

1213
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: gap is gonna work against Cousins if it doesn't go well.

1214
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: They have a young team, especially on offense, a lot

1215
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: of young skill guys. Who's more likely to be friends

1216
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: with those guys by the end of training camp, eating dinners,

1217
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: hanging out with their girlfriends, doing whatever young people do,

1218
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: playing video games. You name it, Pennix or Cousins with

1219
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: several kids. I mean, I think it's fair to I'm

1220
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: not saying cousins won't try. You just gravitate when you're

1221
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: younger to someone younger than ten fifteen years older than you,

1222
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: Like if you're b Jon Robinson, who are you gonna

1223
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: have more in common with Michael Pennick's are Kirk cousins? Now,

1224
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: if you're winning, you don't care. Tom Brady, Payton Manning

1225
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: were fifteen twenty years older and guys at the end

1226
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: of their career. It didn't matter because they were good

1227
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: cousins good. None of this matters. But if he's not,

1228
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: if he struggles, or in your hypothetical situation, were to

1229
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: get injured and Penix comes in and gives them a jolt,

1230
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: I think cousins would be in major trouble. And I

1231
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: think in the NFL, I think in the history of

1232
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: like when I was young, and a lot of people

1233
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 1: listening that are my age a little older. You know,

1234
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties, when you invested in a player,

1235
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: you could even argue in the two thousands, these teams

1236
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: in these leagues did not have the same cash. So

1237
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: if I'm paying a guy ten million dollars twenty million,

1238
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: I remember in high school and the Sacramento Kings. They

1239
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,520
Speaker 1: had this little like three year run where they were incredible,

1240
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,959
Speaker 1: and they signed Chris Weber to this massive contract extension

1241
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: and he was their best player. And then he screwed

1242
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: up his knee really bad and he came back and

1243
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 1: the Kings I think at the time they might have

1244
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: had the best record in the NBA, and he came back,

1245
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: he was a shell of himself and it derailed their season.

1246
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: I think they lost in the first round that year,

1247
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: maybe to Minnesota. The KG team might have been a four,

1248
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: but at the time it was Yeah, I mean, you're

1249
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: paying a guy a lot of money he plays. That

1250
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,919
Speaker 1: was just the mindset in team sports, baseball, basketball, football,

1251
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: you make a lot of money, you're ready to play

1252
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: off an injury, you play. I don't think it's that

1253
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: the case as much anymore with young players. If the

1254
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: guy's ready, if he's balling, we're trying to win. Rahie Morris,

1255
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: it's not his money. So if you're four and four

1256
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: and that injury happens and all of a sudden, Penix

1257
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: comes in and three weeks later, you're seven and five

1258
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: and he's thrown seven touchdowns in three games and one pick,

1259
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: and your team's vibing and you got a bull. Think

1260
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: how much we would talk about if that situation happens

1261
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: and Pennix was good, I don't care what else is

1262
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: going on, it would be one of the biggest stories

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Speaker 1: in the NFL because of the situation that happened on

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Speaker 1: Draft night. I'd be talking about it. TV shows would

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Speaker 1: be talking about it. Coward'd be talking about it. People

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Speaker 1: be talking about it, and I think most people would

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Speaker 1: be like, I'd keep wrong with the kid. It'd almost

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Speaker 1: be controversial if they went back to cousins. It's like

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Speaker 1: we're paying them. Yeah, who cares. It's all monopoly money

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Speaker 1: at this point. Anyway, Arthur Blank's got more money than God.

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Speaker 1: If this was ninety three or two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: it'd be borderline no brainer. It's why I was so crazy,

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Speaker 1: so crazy I thought the Apple documented. I stopped watching

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Speaker 1: it after like episode five. The Belichick Bledsoe stuff, which

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Speaker 1: we've seen a million times, is very enlightening, like that

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Speaker 1: stuff never happened. Ever. Hey, I think this young guy's better,

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Speaker 1: but we're paying this guy one hundred million dollar, ten year,

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar contract, which is crazy. That's what

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Speaker 1: Bledsoe got back then it was a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year. But the point Belichick's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not going back to him not doing it. I just

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Speaker 1: think that stuff happens a lot more now. You just

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Speaker 1: ride the hot hand, this guy's not good enough whatever.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone's kind of on board, like, yeah, play

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Speaker 1: Panix the volume