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Speaker 1: How was your weekend betting wise and otherwise? Jason conn
Speaker 1: is here as well. How you doing, Jason Good? Good?
Speaker 1: Good morning, Um. Guessing lines today. Guessing lines in the
Speaker 1: National Football leg for week number seven. Wow, we're moving along.
Speaker 1: H Plus we'll talk about baseball the Dodgers game last night.
Speaker 1: Interesting non pitching move that wasn't mentioned during the broadcast
Speaker 1: last night, and I'm curious what people think about that.
Speaker 1: Uh Loma, Chenko and Lopez got to talk about the
Speaker 1: judging there, but let us talk week seven of the
Speaker 1: National Football League. It has always for those who are
Speaker 1: just landing on this show for the first time on
Speaker 1: Monday's during football season, You're like, what's this guessing line stuff?
Speaker 1: I'm in a cocoons it's yesterday. This is a tribute
Speaker 1: to the old Stardust radio show that Roxy Roxborough was
Speaker 1: involved in back in the day. Chrissie Andrews comes on
Speaker 1: tells me, after my guess what the line is that
Speaker 1: he's going to post right after the show at the
Speaker 1: south Point Hotel Casino, and hopefully within that exercise we
Speaker 1: find ourselves, uh the we extract some value, I should say,
Speaker 1: from the exercise itself. Let us bring in the star
Speaker 1: of the show. He is the south Point Hotel Casino
Speaker 1: sports book director my mishka Chrissie Andrews. Good morning, Chris.
Speaker 1: What's going on flew leafing through pages? What are you
Speaker 1: doing over there? No? I'm getting my notes. Words like it.
Speaker 1: I like show prep. H. Let's start with let me
Speaker 1: just real quick, uh, Survivor over at Circa Jason. Four
Speaker 1: hundred nine people submitted supposed before ten, but I think
Speaker 1: somebody forgot again. Four nine fifty six went out yesterday,
Speaker 1: fifty one of which were with the Patriots. So we
Speaker 1: are down to, by my count, three hundred fifty one, um,
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins and Colts being the big winners yesterday
Speaker 1: for survivors. Colts obviously put a scare into people, but
Speaker 1: so three left heading into tonight. I don't think anybody does.
Speaker 1: One person who has the chiefs tonight. But that's about it. Chrissy.
Speaker 1: How was your weekend as a book here at the
Speaker 1: South Point. Um, it was pretty incredible. Uh yeah, we're
Speaker 1: talking like super Bowl type winds for Sunday and Saturday
Speaker 1: was great too, pretty much one on everything. What was
Speaker 1: your biggest winner? Our biggest winner? Oh? Probably? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it had to be the Green Bay Campa game last night.
Speaker 1: That was the biggest game, all right. That was I
Speaker 1: went three and two in the contest three and two.
Speaker 1: Who let me down was the Ravens, which had no
Speaker 1: business losing that. That was just ridiculous. That's that's why
Speaker 1: the NFL is plink oh pre flop a t s.
Speaker 1: And then the other one that I lost on was
Speaker 1: Caroline who let me down? That was just a bad pick.
Speaker 1: But those are only those are the only two. So
Speaker 1: interesting that that was the game because I had Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: but interesting that that was the game that was the
Speaker 1: big winner for you. Shall we begin with Thursday Night Football, Sir,
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football Giants and the Eagles. Giants in the Eagles,
Speaker 1: I don't get any better than this kind of does
Speaker 1: Actually Giants win yesterday twenty to nineteen. Well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about coaching decisions today on this show. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the Washington football team Giants beat the Washington football
Speaker 1: team twenty to nineteen when Riverboat Ron Rivera elected to
Speaker 1: go for two after the football teamers cut it to
Speaker 1: twenty to nineteen on a Kyle Allen two Simms touchdown
Speaker 1: pass with thirty six seconds left. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is one of these situations where Riverboat Ron
Speaker 1: felt the need to live up to his name. You know,
Speaker 1: that's that's always something that that you wonder about. You're like,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to be a riverboat every time.
Speaker 1: But he decided we're going for the win, even though
Speaker 1: really the only reason the Giants were up was because
Speaker 1: of an offensive turnover on the football teams part, and
Speaker 1: so it looked like they were in control of the game.
Speaker 1: But yet they went for didn't get it, and so
Speaker 1: the New York Giants off the Schneide get their first
Speaker 1: win of the year. Daniel Jones just to illustrate how
Speaker 1: you know Washington really had this game. Uh, probably the
Speaker 1: advantage in this game. Daniel Jones twelve of nineteen for
Speaker 1: one hundred twelve yards passing. He gained seventy four yards
Speaker 1: on the ground. I don't know that I recall saying
Speaker 1: a stat line like that too often. Two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty total yards for the Giants in their win against Washington.
Speaker 1: They were seven eleven on seven four eleven on third downs.
Speaker 1: At least they did that right. And then there's Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I mentioned for those of us who had Baltimore against
Speaker 1: the spread yesterday, My goodness, what a rough, rough outcome
Speaker 1: that was. Carson Wentz was two touchdowns, note picks. He
Speaker 1: was sacked six times, but that's his final line. He
Speaker 1: would two of seven for three yards with under five
Speaker 1: minutes left in the first half, two of seven for
Speaker 1: three yards, no touchdowns, no pick, sack three times with
Speaker 1: under five minutes left in the first half. Then seven
Speaker 1: of fourteen for fifty four yards of a half. By
Speaker 1: the way, it's Gill Alexander Chrissie Andrews guessing lines right
Speaker 1: here on a numbers game at Visa the Sports betting Network.
Speaker 1: No first downs for the Eagles on their first six
Speaker 1: drives of the game. Miles Sanders did fill up the
Speaker 1: box score nine of one, eighteen had that one big
Speaker 1: run Travis Fulgum six or seventy five and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's the Eagles worst start since so it's the one
Speaker 1: in five Giants against the one four and one Eagles,
Speaker 1: and with an Eagles win and the Cowboys lost, the
Speaker 1: Eagles could be leading the division did points they are, Yeah, which,
Speaker 1: Chrissy is another real reason. What you just said right
Speaker 1: there to me is why Washington probably shouldn't go for
Speaker 1: two there. Also, it's not like your season's over, trying
Speaker 1: to just push it in overtime. I'll say, Philly minus
Speaker 1: seven against the Giant, you're a little high. It's six
Speaker 1: and a half, which my power. Actually, I'm sorry, there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of six and almost all six, um,
Speaker 1: which is what I'm gonna open it my power. Raidings
Speaker 1: come to Eagles three without the home field advantage, and
Speaker 1: I guess we're starting to see that home field is
Speaker 1: meaning a little something. So I have no beef with
Speaker 1: the six. But two things I want to comment on.
Speaker 1: You know, what I didn't understand was the first time
Speaker 1: the Eagles went for two, they're down seven, seventeen nothing,
Speaker 1: they score, making seventeen six go for two to cut
Speaker 1: it to nine. I didn't understand that. Uh, And it
Speaker 1: seemed like they were then chasing that point the rest
Speaker 1: of the way, you know, And uh, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: listen that I go. I know the two points, you know,
Speaker 1: evangelicals that are out there, and uh, you know it's better.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's better always. And I think we
Speaker 1: saw some examples of it yesterday the other day. I
Speaker 1: just want to say, and I started thinking about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: And I know I watched college football probably a lot
Speaker 1: more than you do, but I was sinking between Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones and Mitchell Trabinsky, you know, watching these guys. There
Speaker 1: was never a moment when I was in, oh my god,
Speaker 1: these guys are really going to be stars in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I gotta go after these Yet, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if they wiled them in the you know, in
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and you know that camp and stuff. I guess
Speaker 1: they did, but never watching them play football, were you
Speaker 1: just blown away by their incredible talents. So I don't
Speaker 1: know that that was my thought as I watching Jones
Speaker 1: yesterday with regard to your bisky, I mean, I said,
Speaker 1: I've said it a hundred times where it's like Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson is there on display for the entire country to see,
Speaker 1: right and beats Alabama, the vaunted Alabama defense when their
Speaker 1: defense was spectacular right beats them in the National Championship.
Speaker 1: But yet you're enamored by this guy who had thirteen
Speaker 1: starts at North Carolina. Like it's the strange, it's the
Speaker 1: strangest thing in the world what people convince them of
Speaker 1: themselves of. And here's Daniel Jones, a really high draft
Speaker 1: pick for the Giants. I don't know if we're at
Speaker 1: Donald level level yet in terms of thinking to go elsewhere,
Speaker 1: but soon enough we will be if this continues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're a Darnald level yet, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know we need to see some improvement. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that. Yeah, so six and a half
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen any signs of it. Six six, Okay,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any signs either. And I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Just to comment on your on your remark about, you know,
Speaker 1: the Eagles going for going for two early. I just think,
Speaker 1: and I've said this on this show before too, which is,
Speaker 1: coaches seem with the exception of one or two of them,
Speaker 1: which will talk about later, because they're just so leaps
Speaker 1: and bounds above the rest of their coaching cohorts. But
Speaker 1: most of these coaches seem to now it's it's gotten
Speaker 1: into their brain. It's almost like they're like, okay, am
Speaker 1: I supposed to do? What if I do? What do
Speaker 1: I do here? I know I want to sound smart,
Speaker 1: I want to look smart. I don't want to be,
Speaker 1: you know, skewered in the press tomorrow. So I think
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to go for two here. So that's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Like it just seems that arbitrary. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's like the black jack player was, you know, It's
Speaker 1: like if you have the sixteen, you know how some
Speaker 1: there are some black jack players who are like, this
Speaker 1: time I'm gonna hit. This time, I'm gonna just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit on it. It's like, at least be
Speaker 1: consistent through, right, Like just give me that much. But
Speaker 1: you don't see that with these coaches. They'll they'll just
Speaker 1: sort of do what they want to on a whim. Um.
Speaker 1: So I didn't think, yeah, I'm I didn't think that
Speaker 1: that was necessarily the way to play it. And I
Speaker 1: certainly didn't think Riverboat Ron should have gone for it there.
Speaker 1: But eagles six is what you're gonna put up. I
Speaker 1: had seven, Yeah, you know, I wouldn't want to go
Speaker 1: too high with anything on either one of these teams.
Speaker 1: You know, it just looks all right. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but seven would be a out. It's Chris Andrew's at
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Speaker 1: how many afternoon games are we doing the two afternoon
Speaker 1: game thing again this week? Uh? To? We have three
Speaker 1: one to three yellow three afternoon games. Jason four, Jason's
Speaker 1: have four to so yeah, I'm sorry, Jason's right, it
Speaker 1: is four. I missed the CRDS, all right. I like
Speaker 1: that distribution, all right? What's first on Sunday morning? Cleveland
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati. Cleveland at Cincinnati and FS excuse me a
Speaker 1: f C North. Cleveland loses, and I do mean lose
Speaker 1: badly to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Cleveland loses that game by
Speaker 1: the score of thirty eight to seven as three point dogs.
Speaker 1: Money came in on Cleveland as game time approach. They
Speaker 1: lose thirty eight to seven. Baker Mayfield ten of eighteen
Speaker 1: for one nineteen, one touchdown, two picks at four times
Speaker 1: times he was taken out of the game for case Keenum.
Speaker 1: In this one case Keenum was five for ten for
Speaker 1: forty six, but the Browns were one of twelve on
Speaker 1: third downs, they were oh for three on fourth down.
Speaker 1: They only had two hundred twenty total yards of offense.
Speaker 1: They were minus two in turnovers. Just a recipe for
Speaker 1: disaster h Pittsburgh was one of mine. Yesterday, Sitton Senata
Speaker 1: was up on the Colts twenty one to nothing. And
Speaker 1: for those of us who have the Dolphins and Survivor,
Speaker 1: this was a tough one to watch the Colts come
Speaker 1: back because a lot of people have the Colts and Survivor.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow future Hall of Famer, twenty five thirty nine,
Speaker 1: that's my buddy. Matt Brown calls him uh on Primetime
Speaker 1: Action twenty five of thirty nine for three thirteen, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick, two sacks. Uh Tee Higgins biggest target once again,
Speaker 1: six for one twenty five. Bengals were eight of seventeen
Speaker 1: on third down, two of two on fourth down. They're
Speaker 1: O sixteen and one in their last seventeen road games.
Speaker 1: For those who like UH longer stats from even before
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was around with the Bengals, Oh sixteen and
Speaker 1: one last seventeen road games. That's their third loss this season.
Speaker 1: The Bengals third loss this season by five points are
Speaker 1: fewer and under Zach Taylor. Now they're three eighteen and one,
Speaker 1: three eighteen and one, outscored by the Colts thirty one
Speaker 1: to six after leading twenty one and nothing. As I
Speaker 1: said yesterday, I will say Cleveland is a It's not
Speaker 1: going to be that high. I'll say Cleveland minus three.
Speaker 1: At Cincinnati, it's three and a half. See two places
Speaker 1: three with juice on the Browns. I'm gonna open three
Speaker 1: and after. You know, Gil, if you remember at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, I said not that Cincinnati is
Speaker 1: gonna win a lot of games, but they're going to
Speaker 1: cover a lot of numbers as a dog. And they
Speaker 1: did yesterday. That staff that you threw out earlier about
Speaker 1: their losses by five points or less, I think that
Speaker 1: goes to prove it. Uh, my power ratings come to
Speaker 1: five on Cleveland again without the home field advantage. Um,
Speaker 1: how give sense much? But you know, I think three
Speaker 1: and a half like folk hat to start with. But
Speaker 1: you know, you look back at Baker Mayfield, still incredibly
Speaker 1: inconsistent and Joe Burrow at seventy nine point three was
Speaker 1: his qb R yesterday. So you know, they blew that game.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still not sure a boy Taylor as
Speaker 1: a coach, but they blew that game. But it was
Speaker 1: not Joe Burrow's fault in anyway he played. I thought
Speaker 1: he played really well, certainly enough well enough for them
Speaker 1: to win that game. Three and a half. I think
Speaker 1: I'd probably be looking at dog in this game. But
Speaker 1: you know, I know if I opened three, they'll just
Speaker 1: you know, flood me with the minus streets. I'm an
Speaker 1: open three and half to keep an eye on it.
Speaker 1: I think three is probably a little bit of a
Speaker 1: better number in this game. Three and a half to
Speaker 1: me would be uh take or pass for sure? With
Speaker 1: Cleveland cincinematic. Yeah, so I see it. Were you surprised
Speaker 1: by your Steelers yesterday? Yeah? You know what you gave
Speaker 1: the staff? What was Cleveland on third down? And you know,
Speaker 1: I board did I hear it from Steeler fans this
Speaker 1: last week? If I'm not a defense that I didn't
Speaker 1: like the way they're playing, and the guys have given
Speaker 1: me all these statistics, but I know what I was seeing.
Speaker 1: They weren't making a lot of big plays when they
Speaker 1: needed to. And I don't have the number right in
Speaker 1: front of me, but their third down conversion rate as
Speaker 1: the defense was not very good, and that's probably what
Speaker 1: they came into my mind. I'm looking to get them
Speaker 1: get the opposition off the field. They weren't always doing that,
Speaker 1: but they certainly did that yesterday. You know, mankup Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: which I never had much doubt, but like a lot
Speaker 1: of guys were saying, he wasn't playing that well this year,
Speaker 1: and he had the big interception returned for a touchdown
Speaker 1: that really kind of set the tone for the game.
Speaker 1: And I didn't make as terrific myself, so I think
Speaker 1: he was well worth trading a number one draft choice for.
Speaker 1: So I heard it by by a lot of steel offense.
Speaker 1: But they did shut down Cleveland on third down and
Speaker 1: that was the most impressive thing about that about their
Speaker 1: defense yesterday, Very very consistent, and they really bottled up
Speaker 1: Mayfield pretty good. Did Minka turned his career around like
Speaker 1: immediately after that, right as soon as he put on
Speaker 1: a Steeler's uniform one for just to repeat Cleveland one
Speaker 1: of twelve on third downs yesterday, and oh for three
Speaker 1: on fourth and again third down conversion rates both offensively.
Speaker 1: In terms of defensive prevention of it probably more a
Speaker 1: thing that regresses to a mean than necessarily predictive. By
Speaker 1: the way, Cincinnati just repeat their stat third loss this
Speaker 1: season by five points are fewer there, one, four, and one,
Speaker 1: but three of those four losses by five points are fewer.
Speaker 1: And then obviously the tie as well. Let's do one
Speaker 1: more here, one more Dallas against your Washington football team,
Speaker 1: Dallas at Washington. Dallas hasn't played, uh, and they will
Speaker 1: play tonight. By the way, two games tonight, of course,
Speaker 1: I should say one game this afternoon, really uh Pacific time.
Speaker 1: It's a It's a five pm Eastern two pm Pacific
Speaker 1: start between the Chiefs and the Bills. What an awkward time.
Speaker 1: Awkward just in terms of a time. We're not used
Speaker 1: to having a game start on a Monday, five pm Eastern,
Speaker 1: two pm Pacific between Kansas City and Buffalo. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: are five and a half point favorites in the first
Speaker 1: of two tonight in the National Football need to close
Speaker 1: out Week six, and then it's Arizona Dallas. Uh. The
Speaker 1: originally scheduled Monday night I remember Kansas City Buffalo postponed
Speaker 1: because Buffalo Tennessee UM had to get postponed. And then
Speaker 1: it's just the whole Domino effect UM Arizona Dallas tonight.
Speaker 1: Dallas is a one and a half point favorite. So
Speaker 1: we get to see Andy Dalton start here. Not we
Speaker 1: get to but sadly we see Andy Dalton start because
Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott's season ending injury. So we don't know
Speaker 1: about Dallas. We do know, as we just mentioned about
Speaker 1: Washington yesterday, losing to the Giants, had the chance to
Speaker 1: tie it and force what probably would have been overtime. Instead,
Speaker 1: they go for two and they miss, and so Washington's
Speaker 1: one in five. Dallas leads the NFCS that two and
Speaker 1: three headed into tonight's game. By the way, Kyle Allen
Speaker 1: yesterday for Washington thirty one of forty two for two,
Speaker 1: eighty two touchdowns, one pick, sack three times. Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: always need to mention for any Washington box score, seven catches,
Speaker 1: seventy four yards, I'll say a site unseen for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys tonight, I'll say it's Dallas minus four. Chrissie. There
Speaker 1: a lot of numbers out there, a low of three
Speaker 1: with some juice on the favorite and a high of four.
Speaker 1: I see it all over the place now, you know,
Speaker 1: if anybody was listening last week, I told everybody I
Speaker 1: loved the Cowboys this week, Uh they were a two
Speaker 1: point dog. They've not one. I'm still running one at
Speaker 1: the south point, just one or one and a half.
Speaker 1: So pretty big turnaround as far as the number goes.
Speaker 1: But I expect Dallas to play well tonight. But still
Speaker 1: my numbers only come to a four point differential, again
Speaker 1: with no home field advantage, and I'm not sure Washington
Speaker 1: has ever had a home field hand with that new stage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean their their home field is essentially zero. But
Speaker 1: as a placeholder, I'm gonna open it three and a half.
Speaker 1: See how that goes. Um. I think that that's an
Speaker 1: okay starting point. But we'll see how Dallas plays that.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I expect Dallas to play Weldon Man.
Speaker 1: I think Andy Dalton is gonna be a very capable
Speaker 1: substitute for Dak Prescott. I can't imagine. Again, we don't
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen with the Cowboys tonight. God forbid,
Speaker 1: there's any more injuries for them. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: Dallas minus three. If that's what some have out there
Speaker 1: against Washington, seems like an auto auto play on Dallas.
Speaker 1: To man, I know, Dallas's defense is terrible, but it's
Speaker 1: not like that's the thing. It's not like Washington has
Speaker 1: the offense to exploit that though, you know. So it's
Speaker 1: it's sort of weakness against weakness. And then if you
Speaker 1: look at the other side of the ball, I'll take
Speaker 1: I'll take Dallas's offense, despite how good Washington's defensive front
Speaker 1: can be. I'll take Dallas's offense, and that so Dallas
Speaker 1: you're putting up minus three and a half, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm using three and a half, but I would I
Speaker 1: would take a little bit of issue with Dad. I
Speaker 1: think Dallas's defense is just so bad and Washington, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are still professional athletes that were
Speaker 1: stars through high school and college. You know, his face
Speaker 1: and defense as bad as Dallas has been, and it's
Speaker 1: been bad, I think they can put up some points.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure I automatically laid three, but the
Speaker 1: public might, especially if Dallas looks good tonight. Um, let's
Speaker 1: try one more here, Okay, Detroit and Atlanta. Detroit at Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Detroit beats Jacksonville yesterday at the game that I probably
Speaker 1: saw three plays of, Detroit beat some thirty four to sixteen.
Speaker 1: They crushed him as three point favorites. A lot of
Speaker 1: turnovers for Jacksonville. Are a lot of big turnovers in
Speaker 1: that game. Um, let's see here. Detroit at Jacksonville detroited
Speaker 1: Atlanta is the so Detroit yesterday. Stafford Stafford nineteen twenty three,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, one pick, sacked zero times. DeAndre Swift greatest
Speaker 1: name ever fourteen for one, sixteen on the ground, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Golladay four for one oh five. Detroit's time of his
Speaker 1: in advantage over Jacksonville thirty five fifty seven to twenty
Speaker 1: four oh three. Consecutive road wins for the first time
Speaker 1: since November twenty seventeen for the Detroit Lions. Congratulations to them.
Speaker 1: And then there's Atlanta, which got off the schnight. Atlanta
Speaker 1: with their first win of the year. They crushed Minnesota
Speaker 1: forty to twenty three. Uh Matt Ryan thirty of forty
Speaker 1: three seventy one, four touchdowns, no picks, sack two times,
Speaker 1: Julio Jones eight for one, thirty seven, two touchdowns. They
Speaker 1: were nine of seventeen on third down, three for three
Speaker 1: on four four sixty two total yards. They were plus
Speaker 1: two in turnovers, and they had the ball for over
Speaker 1: forty minutes versus the Vikings forty oh seven to nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty three. And I said, Atlanta minus four, what say you,
Speaker 1: you're a little high. It's almost a blanket three. I
Speaker 1: see it a little bit of three with some juice
Speaker 1: on the favorite. I gotta say I like that number better.
Speaker 1: My my, my numbers have these two teams at exactly
Speaker 1: even if we're gonna look at yesterday's game, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought Stafford looked really good. In a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: the whole deep the Detroit teams, particularly their offense, I
Speaker 1: thought look really good. But they played a very bad
Speaker 1: Jacksonville team I think all of us had earmarked is
Speaker 1: the worst team in the league before the season started.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Jets of blowing them away as far
Speaker 1: as that goes. But I think you also look at
Speaker 1: Atlanta against Minnesota, and again their offense looked great, but
Speaker 1: it's looked great pretty much all year. First game of
Speaker 1: the Raheem Morris is their head coach, so I think
Speaker 1: that probably gave him a little bit of a psychological edge.
Speaker 1: But also as Minnesota any good, I think we're conditioned
Speaker 1: to think that they are, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think they aren't. I think that's been certainly one of
Speaker 1: the big disappointments so far this year. So I think
Speaker 1: you're seeing two teams that came off impressive wins against
Speaker 1: highly unimpressive opponents. And I think we're just conditioned to
Speaker 1: think Atlanta is a little better because their offensive been
Speaker 1: so much better for so much longer that Uh. I
Speaker 1: think the public probably will lay the three, but I'm
Speaker 1: anna open three, and I'm willing to take a bet there.
Speaker 1: And I think the lines are very live in this spot.
Speaker 1: They laid me too. Three. I think that's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: I'm certainly willing to take a bet there. These are
Speaker 1: pretty logical lines, like the guests is so far have
Speaker 1: not been far off on these, And your point about
Speaker 1: Minnesota's well taken. Kirk Cousins yesterday thirty six for three,
Speaker 1: forty three, three touchdowns, three picks, but those three picks
Speaker 1: were all in the first half. It's the first time
Speaker 1: he's ever in his illustrious interception throwing career, and he
Speaker 1: was on epically historical pace. People who forget his early
Speaker 1: days with Washington, epically historical interception pace before the you
Speaker 1: like that game against the Buccaneers which sort of just
Speaker 1: flipped his career. Uh, this is the first time he's
Speaker 1: ever thrown three interceptions in the first half. Ever. He
Speaker 1: has had twenty multiple interception games in his career. His
Speaker 1: teams in those twenty multiple interception games, oh and twenty
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then you know the rushing yards for
Speaker 1: the Vikings yesterday, thirty two total rushing yards. Again no Dalvin, right,
Speaker 1: but thirty two total rushing yards. That ain't gonna get
Speaker 1: it done. So, um, falcons are the beneficiaries. I mean,
Speaker 1: take nothing away from the Falcons. They will probably do
Speaker 1: between now that we have the Falcons and the Giants,
Speaker 1: who we've already talked about winning, it's only the Jets
Speaker 1: who are winless now in the National Football League. So
Speaker 1: you're opening detroited Atlanta what number again? I'm opening three?
Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm pretty sure the public is
Speaker 1: gonna lay this. I'm not sure which way. Why do
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna go? But I think the public
Speaker 1: is gonna lay this, and like I said, I'm certainly
Speaker 1: willing to take a bet at the three. But I
Speaker 1: think I think this will go to three and a
Speaker 1: half sooner probably rather than later, and then we'll see
Speaker 1: what the wise guys want to do. I think they'll
Speaker 1: probably come in on the lines, but that's just a hunch.
Speaker 1: But I think three is a good place to start.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with guessing lines in week number seven. What's next,
Speaker 1: ok it? We have Carolina at New Orleans. Carolina at
Speaker 1: New Orleans. New Orleans will be coming off of by
Speaker 1: Carolina loses. That was one of my two losses in
Speaker 1: the contents. Yesterday Carolina loses to the Bears. So the
Speaker 1: Bears go to five and one. We'll get to them,
Speaker 1: but Carolina drops the three and three. Teddy Bridgewater yesterday
Speaker 1: sixteen to sixteen, no touchdowns, two picks. He was sacked
Speaker 1: four times. D J. Moore got the most of it
Speaker 1: from him, five for ninety three. The Panthers out gained
Speaker 1: the Bears three oh three to two sixty one, but
Speaker 1: they were minus two in turnovers and that's usually the dilio.
Speaker 1: By the way, you know I mentioned this with the
Speaker 1: Bears against the Bucks on that Thursday night game, how
Speaker 1: Matt Naggy, you know, the Bucks had one time out
Speaker 1: left and they decided the Bears did to throw a
Speaker 1: pass play, which of course went in completes of Tom
Speaker 1: Brady ended up getting the ball with way more time
Speaker 1: after the Bears go ahead field goal late than he
Speaker 1: should have, and it ended up working out for the
Speaker 1: Bears because Tom Brady had the senior moment, among other things,
Speaker 1: and the Bears won the football game twenty to nineteen. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: same same thing. The Bears left the time out on
Speaker 1: the board for Carolina late when they threw a pass
Speaker 1: when they shouldn't have right should have just bled the
Speaker 1: clock made Carolina use their final time out. So Carolina
Speaker 1: ends up with the ball a chance to tie the
Speaker 1: game with the time out. UM, and it still worked
Speaker 1: out for the Bears, so they get away with it
Speaker 1: yet again. But Carolina loses to the Bears by the
Speaker 1: final score yesterday. UM. Of of, let's make sure you
Speaker 1: know that three to sixteen, and UM get it done
Speaker 1: as a two point dog to the Bear. So this
Speaker 1: one here, in this particular situation, though, I will take
Speaker 1: New Orleans minus seven off of by Okay, they are
Speaker 1: seven and a half pretty much everywhere I see seven's
Speaker 1: with some juice on the favorite, but mostly seven a half,
Speaker 1: a little bit of seven half little juice on the
Speaker 1: dun I'm opening seven. The first thing I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: at least you're in New Orleans? Is any good? And
Speaker 1: my answer is no, I'm not sure they're any good
Speaker 1: at all. And I just had them here they want.
Speaker 1: They beat the Bucks opening week, okay, with Brady's first
Speaker 1: game loss to the Raiders, lost to the Packers, Okay,
Speaker 1: no disgrace there, beat the Lions by six, beat the
Speaker 1: Chargers by three, so they even covered a seventh Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry they did against the Buckets. Uh. In Carolina,
Speaker 1: I'm not downgrading them after yesterday's win. And the more
Speaker 1: I look at this Bearer's team, I think that listen,
Speaker 1: they're five and one. How they're five and one, I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but their defense is very, very good.
Speaker 1: And I said it going into yesterday's game. I kind
Speaker 1: of like Carolina Myselfiah, but I think Gridgewater is getting
Speaker 1: better and better and better since that horrific injury had
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He did not play well yesterday.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt didn't play well at all, But like
Speaker 1: I said, I think he was born to get a
Speaker 1: very tough defense. You know, my numbers come more to
Speaker 1: like six in this game, uh than seven and a half.
Speaker 1: And the seven and a half seems like an awfully
Speaker 1: high number for a team that I'm just not sure
Speaker 1: of at all. And I think Caroline is getting better
Speaker 1: and better as the year has gone on. So I'm
Speaker 1: opening seven. I'm sure they'll lay it to me. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to take a bet there, But seven and
Speaker 1: a half to me too high, and I have a
Speaker 1: feeling the wise guys are gonna come in on Caroline
Speaker 1: on this one. Possible that Christian McCaffrey will not return
Speaker 1: until the November eighth game at Kansas City, pardon me,
Speaker 1: which would mean he would miss six six games altogether.
Speaker 1: So help is eventually on the way, but not really
Speaker 1: anytime soon for the Carolina Panthers. So you are opening seven,
Speaker 1: You're opening the number that I guessed on that. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do one more here. Buffalo at the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: Buffalo at the Jets. Buffalo again plays today. Buffalo's got
Speaker 1: that game against Kansas City it's the early game, the
Speaker 1: five pm Eastern two pm Pacific game. Buffalo five and
Speaker 1: a half point Dogs hosting Kansas City today, Buffaloes four
Speaker 1: and one. As far as the Jets, UH, the Jets
Speaker 1: are now oh and six. They're the only winless team
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. They got past their own
Speaker 1: thirty three yard line yesterday in a just a absolute
Speaker 1: destruction by the Dolphins. Dolphins beat him twenty four to nothing.
Speaker 1: Jets got past their own thirty three yard line on
Speaker 1: one drive in the first half. Only four drives in
Speaker 1: the entire game did they get past their own thirty
Speaker 1: three yard line, and two of those were in garbage time.
Speaker 1: With under ten minutes left in the second half, the
Speaker 1: Jets were down twenty one and nothing. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody noticed this, but this is when you know
Speaker 1: you're a really bad football team. Under ten minutes left
Speaker 1: in the UH. This is in the third quarter, now
Speaker 1: what I'm talking. Under ten minutes left in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Jets are down twenty one and nothing in Miami unsuccessfully
Speaker 1: tries to draw the Jets off sides. I think it
Speaker 1: was a fourth and short near midfield. Brian fitz Patrick
Speaker 1: does the hard count, they unsuccessfully. The Dolphins unsuccessfully try
Speaker 1: to draw the Jets off side about two seconds after
Speaker 1: the whistle blows to indicate that it's a delay of
Speaker 1: game in the five yard penalty. Ryan Fitzpatrick just sort
Speaker 1: of comically stays behind center in a crouch and keeps
Speaker 1: yelling things and then just laughs, just smiles, because he's
Speaker 1: just having such a gay old time out there right
Speaker 1: that he's just like, this is ridiculous. But that's when
Speaker 1: you know your football team is a joke. When the
Speaker 1: other player just doesn't care anymore. By the way, Flacco
Speaker 1: yesterday forty four for one, no touchdowns, one pick, three sacks,
Speaker 1: one of which was comical. The Jets were two of
Speaker 1: seventeen on third down. They didn't convert a third down
Speaker 1: till the fourth quarter. Miami wasn't good on third downs either.
Speaker 1: They're the only wins winless team, as I mentioned in
Speaker 1: the NFL three losses by twenty plus points. It's their
Speaker 1: first o and six starts since when Rich co Tight
Speaker 1: was their coach. Whenever you invoke co Tight, it's bad.
Speaker 1: And they've been outscored one fourteen to twenty nine in
Speaker 1: the first half this season. They were outscored one fourteen
Speaker 1: to nine in the first half this season, including twenty
Speaker 1: one to nothing yesterday. Chrissie, we gotta go to break
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna get your number after I guess mine
Speaker 1: right here. But they are they are really bad, like
Speaker 1: so bad. I mentioned this last week on the show.
Speaker 1: One of the probably best Survivor strategies this year is
Speaker 1: just take the team that plays the Jets, like if
Speaker 1: you you can't do it every week because you're obviously
Speaker 1: gonna play teams in their division twice. But man, are
Speaker 1: they bad? And Sam Donald now trade rumors uh starting
Speaker 1: to fly about him getting traded indeed, so we shall
Speaker 1: see there. I'll say Buffalo minus ten at the Jets
Speaker 1: will find out what the number is coming back on
Speaker 1: a numbers game at vicent these sports betting network. We
Speaker 1: haven't gone over your Bills and Jets number. Oh, I said,
Speaker 1: Bills minus ten. That's right, go ahead, what's what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you no? We have not I apologize? Yes, Okay.
Speaker 1: First of all, uh, my freend Barry who's from Miami
Speaker 1: is probably listening right now, and it doesn't have a
Speaker 1: high opinion of coach Gaze. Let's just say the first
Speaker 1: time Gaze went to half time and as a head
Speaker 1: coach in Miami and saw Miami up by twenty one point.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good twist, you know, Uh yeah, this,
Speaker 1: you know. And during the break, I was looking for
Speaker 1: this chart, so I don't it's not a candlestick chart.
Speaker 1: I forget what they call this chart. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like a plus minus chart of games with their final outcome.
Speaker 1: And it's so bad for Adam Gays. It's unbelievably horrible.
Speaker 1: On how many games he's lost to buy you know,
Speaker 1: a certain number of points, and how many games he's won.
Speaker 1: The wins obviously are very few, and four between. My
Speaker 1: numbers come to eighteen on this game. My first mention
Speaker 1: of diminishing returns because you know, I don't think of
Speaker 1: a road favorite eighteen points in the NFL. But anyway,
Speaker 1: the number is eleven, and I'm gonna open eleven. But
Speaker 1: if I because I do see one Tan out there,
Speaker 1: if I see this trending higher in any way, shape
Speaker 1: or form, I'm going high. This team is historically bad
Speaker 1: as far as my methodology of keeping power ratings. This
Speaker 1: is the worst I have ever had, I believe for
Speaker 1: the Jets, and they're playing a very good team, by
Speaker 1: the way, and I know they've got trounced last week,
Speaker 1: but I expect them the show tonight. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if they beat Kansas City, but I think this
Speaker 1: will be a very very close game. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open at eleven. But if I see a trending higher
Speaker 1: in any way, I'm going to higher myself. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, by the way, who suffered an a C
Speaker 1: joint sprain in his throwing shoulder during that Thursday Night
Speaker 1: lost to the Broncos, hasn't played in two weeks, and
Speaker 1: now it seems to have drifted into if you believe
Speaker 1: reports they're trying to trade Sam Donald, Joe Flacco looks
Speaker 1: like he care is as much about a football game
Speaker 1: as I do about the opera that's taking place in
Speaker 1: uh elsewhere tonight. I don't know where. I care as little,
Speaker 1: no matter where it is, But he just doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he cares at all. And that might just be
Speaker 1: his face, might just be the Flacco face. Maybe he
Speaker 1: cares deeply, but I just don't. I just don't get
Speaker 1: that that feeling about it when you watch him at
Speaker 1: a game. Uh. And the Dolphins for your friend the Dolphins. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were one of nine on third downs. We got
Speaker 1: to see two of for two passes two it was
Speaker 1: two of two for nine yards um. Consecutive wins by
Speaker 1: twenty plus points for the first time for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: the first time the Miami Dolphins have been ahead of
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots in the a f C East
Speaker 1: and Week six or later since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: First time week six or later since two thousand and
Speaker 1: eight that they've been ahead of the Patriots. Take that
Speaker 1: for what it's worth, But what are you posting? Then?
Speaker 1: What's the final number? That's the highest water market I see.
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm gonna go with. I see a
Speaker 1: little bit lower in some spots, but I'm gonna stay
Speaker 1: high on this one. These guesses have been spot on,
Speaker 1: spot on, all right, give me one more Packers at
Speaker 1: the Texas Packers at the Texans. Okay, Green Bay loses
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay. Yesterday, Green Bay loses the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Rodgers was sixteen of thirty five or one sixty no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two picks. He was sacked four times, only two hundred
Speaker 1: and one total yards of offense for the Packers. Yesterday
Speaker 1: they were minus two in turnovers, but those two turnovers
Speaker 1: because it was zero versus two, those two turn two
Speaker 1: turnovers were two Aaron Rodgers picks. The Packers were up
Speaker 1: in this game ten to nothing, and it looked like
Speaker 1: they were going to dominate this football game, really and
Speaker 1: then a pick six to Jamal Dean thirty two yards
Speaker 1: to the house made it ten to seven. Then three
Speaker 1: Packers offensive plays later on the ensuing drive, Mike Edwards
Speaker 1: returns to pick thirty seven yards to the Green Bay
Speaker 1: to next play touchdown. Green Bay never scored again, thirty
Speaker 1: eight straight for the Tampa Bay Buck and years and
Speaker 1: green Bay falls from the ranks of the unbeaten. So
Speaker 1: now we have three unbeaten Tennessee, Pittsburgh in Seattle. Houston
Speaker 1: loses to Tennessee. Uh, we should probably talk about that.
Speaker 1: Houston loses to Tennessee forty two to thirty six at overtime.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson thirty seven for three thirty five, four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks. He was sacked twice fuller six for to touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's Houston's worst start at one in five since two
Speaker 1: thousand five. Okay, let's talk about Romeo Crennell. First, Romeo Crenell,
Speaker 1: let's do the one that everybody's talking about. Then we'll
Speaker 1: do the part that that no one's talking about, or
Speaker 1: very few people are talking about. But Derrick Stevens Wash
Speaker 1: was smart enough to talk about this morning on Follow
Speaker 1: the Money. Uh. First of all, Romeo Crenell Houston got
Speaker 1: decides to go for it on fourth and goal at
Speaker 1: the Tennessee one up thirty to twenty nine with one
Speaker 1: fifty three left. Okay, that's the right play Watson to
Speaker 1: Cook's touchdown, But then they're up thirty six to twenty nine,
Speaker 1: and instead of kicking an extra point to go up eight,
Speaker 1: they go for two to try to go up nine
Speaker 1: and seal the deal. At least that's Romeo Cornell's thinking.
Speaker 1: They fail, because, of course they do. Watson to Cobb
Speaker 1: was the intended pass, so that, of course then means
Speaker 1: they're only up thirty six to twenty nine instead of
Speaker 1: just kicking the extra point and going up thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Of course, it leads to an eleven play, seventy six
Speaker 1: yard drive that with one forty five left in the game,
Speaker 1: took one forty one. Uh Tannehill to Brown seven yard
Speaker 1: touchdown pass to win it, or excuse me, to tie
Speaker 1: the game. Once they hit the extra point four seconds left, then,
Speaker 1: of course Tennessee wins the coin flip in overtime, and
Speaker 1: on the second play of overtime, Tannehill to Henry Little
Speaker 1: pass goes fifty three yards. Four plays later, Henry crashes
Speaker 1: in from the five ball game forty two to thirty six. Uh.
Speaker 1: That's Tennessee's fourth win this season by six points or fewer.
Speaker 1: But enough about Tennessee. Let's get back to Crinell for
Speaker 1: a second. We'll get to Tennessee in a minute. Crenell
Speaker 1: deciding Chrissy to go up nine, try to go up nine,
Speaker 1: up seven with one forty five left in the game,
Speaker 1: instead of just kicking the extra point again, getting back
Speaker 1: to our discussion earlier, just stop overthinking it. Kick the
Speaker 1: extra point because it makes the other team have to
Speaker 1: successfully do two things, not one two, because we're again
Speaker 1: we're assuming the Uh. If you get a touchdown, you're
Speaker 1: expected point value of a two point conversion is around
Speaker 1: is just around one, meaning it's a fifty fifty proposition.
Speaker 1: Whereas with extra points, you know it's still much closer
Speaker 1: to to getting the point converted, you're expected point values
Speaker 1: just shy of one. You're gonna miss some, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna make most of them. I just don't understand. I
Speaker 1: get what. I get that. The thinking is, oh, we'll
Speaker 1: go up nine in the game will be over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But if you don't and it's a fifty position, because
Speaker 1: you're not the team with Derrick Henry, you're the team
Speaker 1: that always goes and shotgun anyway in those situations, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? And am I wrong? Oh no, I
Speaker 1: think you're right. And the other thing that you know
Speaker 1: is always part of the equation and I don't think
Speaker 1: it's discussed enough is once, once you're you complete, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, whether you kick or go for to make
Speaker 1: miss whatever, the other team gets the ball. And right now,
Speaker 1: like you said, the other team gets the ball, Okay,
Speaker 1: they have to do two things just to tie you. Okay,
Speaker 1: But then after that, well, I mean, you know, it
Speaker 1: gets a little theoretical because we're getting into overtime. But
Speaker 1: then you have a chance to get the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, I thought like if you
Speaker 1: just follow the dogs, you know, kicking and going up
Speaker 1: a was absolutely the right choice. And there may be
Speaker 1: some mathematical up out there that would indicate otherwise. But uh,
Speaker 1: I think there's a psychology to it as well. Your
Speaker 1: team has not one too many games this year. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you have a chance to beat a very very
Speaker 1: good team on the road by again by going up
Speaker 1: eight and forcing them to do two different things just
Speaker 1: to tie you. I think you know you had to
Speaker 1: go for one there and go up bait. I think
Speaker 1: you just had to. And you know I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to second guess because we were in the
Speaker 1: office at the time saying will you do this? And
Speaker 1: none of us would. Oh, there was there was no
Speaker 1: armchair quarterbacking with that. That was right at the moment.
Speaker 1: What is he doing? What is he doing? And the
Speaker 1: other way to say it is what you're doing up
Speaker 1: seven right there is you're you're basically saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's put the burden of converting the two point conversion
Speaker 1: on us rather than on the other team. That sounds
Speaker 1: like a smart thing to do instead of the other
Speaker 1: way around. And just if that sentence alone doesn't drive
Speaker 1: it home, I don't know what else does. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: Green Bay at Houston. Getting back to the point, I'll
Speaker 1: say Green Bay. I don't know. I'll say minus three
Speaker 1: is that too short? My numbers come to three, uh,
Speaker 1: but it's mostly three and a half. I do see
Speaker 1: some threes out there with juice on the favorite, but
Speaker 1: my numbers come to the three and halfs I said,
Speaker 1: even though it's a little higher than what my power
Speaker 1: ratings would be. I think the Packers coming off a
Speaker 1: loss like that, I think you're really going to be
Speaker 1: tremendously focused on this game and make amends. Where Houston
Speaker 1: coming off a loss like that, I see it kind
Speaker 1: of the other way. So I like three and a
Speaker 1: half much better in this spot, even though my numbers
Speaker 1: few a little bit lower. All right, when we come back,
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about the Romeo Canal decision, the Romeo Crenell
Speaker 1: decision to go for two, But we got to talk
Speaker 1: about something that Mike Rabel did before that final sequence
Speaker 1: on that same drive. That is the difference between winning
Speaker 1: and losing football. Unbelievable what Mike Rabel did, and shout
Speaker 1: out to him put him up there top tier, if
Speaker 1: not at the top, right behind Belichick of NFL coaches.
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Speaker 1: week number seven in the NFL. I don't think our
Speaker 1: one turned up anything really like that was pretty ho
Speaker 1: hum guessing slate of the of half the schedule thus far.
Speaker 1: But what I want to get into here because we
Speaker 1: just talked about the Houston side, because Green Bay at Houston,
Speaker 1: Chrissy just throughout as a game next week. So we
Speaker 1: talked about the Romeo Crennell thing. Chrissie, do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm about to talk about with Mike Rabel or
Speaker 1: you hip to what he did yesterday? Yeah? It was
Speaker 1: the Xtra man on the field. Okay, but go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'll let you say and then I have a comment
Speaker 1: about it team Yeah, So okay. One of the staples
Speaker 1: of of this show a numbers game at Visa through
Speaker 1: the years talking football. You may remember my converse stations
Speaker 1: with Todd wishnev about the rules and the NFL about
Speaker 1: two point conversions and how you can manipulate it, how
Speaker 1: the not how you can manipulate it, but how the
Speaker 1: rules are really skewed in favor of the offensive team
Speaker 1: at that point. Uh and you and we've talked on
Speaker 1: this show about all the different little loopholes that coaches
Speaker 1: there very few of them, but coaches in the NFL
Speaker 1: can exploit. And one of the big ones we used
Speaker 1: to talk about was when the clock was north of
Speaker 1: five minutes. In other words, when there was more than
Speaker 1: five minutes left in a football game and a team
Speaker 1: was nursing a lead. Bill Belichick used to do it
Speaker 1: all the time. He used to take multiple delay of
Speaker 1: game penalties and as long as you were had more
Speaker 1: than five minutes on the clock, and no matter how
Speaker 1: many you know, you did it. When you were in
Speaker 1: an advantageous position up late in the game, you could
Speaker 1: take multiple delay of games and the clock would keep restarting.
Speaker 1: I think you could do it about three times and
Speaker 1: then they'd probably say, all right, we know what you're doing,
Speaker 1: and you you'll get a flag if you do it again.
Speaker 1: But Belichick did it a lot and Mike Rabel, who
Speaker 1: of course played for Belichick, started doing this with the Titans,
Speaker 1: and most famously last year, and we we just were
Speaker 1: tickled by this. If you remember, in the playoff game
Speaker 1: against the Patriots themselves, Vrabel and the and the Titans
Speaker 1: were up fourteen to thirteen last year. Late and during
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter he exploited that same loophole in the
Speaker 1: rule book that allowed Tennessee to rule to run one
Speaker 1: minute and forty nine seconds off the clock without running
Speaker 1: a single play. And it was fitting because again, as
Speaker 1: I said, it was the same strategy that Belichick, for instance,
Speaker 1: used all the time. He used it during a thirty
Speaker 1: three to nothing went over the Jets in October of
Speaker 1: last year. So in that game in the playoffs, the
Speaker 1: Titans had a fourth and five from the Patriots thirty
Speaker 1: six yard line with just six thirty three left to play,
Speaker 1: and uh Vrabel didn't want to kick a field goal
Speaker 1: because the weather was was in clement, so he decided
Speaker 1: to punt the ball, but not until his team took
Speaker 1: a delay of game penalty, which took the clock down
Speaker 1: to five fifty two left. Following that penalty, Titans got
Speaker 1: a fresh twenty five second blay clock. They let the
Speaker 1: new clock tick down to zero before taking a false
Speaker 1: start penalty, which didn't sit well with Belichick. Belichick was
Speaker 1: going nuts on the sideline because he's like, here's my
Speaker 1: guy using my thing against me. It was awesome. At
Speaker 1: that point, the clock was down to five after being
Speaker 1: called for two penalties, the Titans were finally going upon it,
Speaker 1: but then the Patriots, if you remember, jumped off sides,
Speaker 1: which allowed the Titans. They clocked down to five thirteen,
Speaker 1: and then after that penalty, the Titans got another fresh
Speaker 1: twenty five second clock, and by the time they finally
Speaker 1: snapped it, there was just four fifty left to play,
Speaker 1: including the pun itself. The clock actually tick down to
Speaker 1: four or forty four, which mean the Titans ran a
Speaker 1: total of one minute and forty nine seconds off the
Speaker 1: clock before the Patriots took possession. You may recall the
Speaker 1: Titans end up winning it twenty thirteen. Um. Okay, So
Speaker 1: that was that, and they changed that rule. By the way,
Speaker 1: they changed the rule this offseason because they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you did it. They finally noticed it when it was
Speaker 1: done on a big playoff stage and they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: we know what you're up to buddy, then enough of
Speaker 1: that rule Bill Belichick and Mike Rabel. But this was
Speaker 1: the first sign that Mike Vrabel was smarter than the
Speaker 1: average NFL coach, right, he was a Belichick design So
Speaker 1: yesterday and again shout out to Derrick Stevens who picked
Speaker 1: up on this. Also he mentioned it on Follow the
Speaker 1: Money this morning. Yesterday, the same drive we're talking about,
Speaker 1: Romeo Crenell ultimately decided we're going for two up seven
Speaker 1: and we know how the rest of that went out.
Speaker 1: We just talked about it. The Titans matriculated down the
Speaker 1: field the force overtime. They win in overtime, by the way,
Speaker 1: win for betters too. Just a tough beat for Houston
Speaker 1: Texans betters. So yesterday Vrabel with it's got to be
Speaker 1: the best decision of Week six and props. The real
Speaker 1: people whom who talked about it the most is like
Speaker 1: it are in a Titan sub reddit group, like that's how.
Speaker 1: That's how because the announcers, of course said nothing, They
Speaker 1: had no idea what was going on in this. So
Speaker 1: the Titans trailed Texans thirty to twenty nine. They had
Speaker 1: just turned over the ball on a Ryan Tannehill interception.
Speaker 1: So Houston up thirty to twenty, up thirty to twenty
Speaker 1: nine had a second and one at the Titans twenty
Speaker 1: five yard line with three forty nine remaining on a
Speaker 1: running clock. Uh now, follow me here, and let me
Speaker 1: just pause to say it's kill Alexander and Chris Andrews
Speaker 1: right here on a numbers game at Visa in these
Speaker 1: sports betting network. Uh serious, except Channel two four guessing lines.
Speaker 1: But also talking about this amazing thing that Mike Frabel
Speaker 1: did yesterday, the difference between winning coaches and losing coaches
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So second in one of the Titans
Speaker 1: twenty five, three forty nine remaining on a running clock,
Speaker 1: so you know they got a second and the third down,
Speaker 1: they only need one one yard. The odds of them
Speaker 1: converting that the Texans that is very high. But if
Speaker 1: the Titans were penalized five yards, the clock would stop
Speaker 1: and it would become a first down for the Texans,
Speaker 1: and it would save approximately forty seconds of clock time.
Speaker 1: And again, while it cost them the second down conversion,
Speaker 1: they were likely to give it up anyway. So very so,
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel sent on an extra defender, putting twelve men
Speaker 1: on the field on purpose and setting up the penalty.
Speaker 1: And if you watch the video and shout out to
Speaker 1: Mike Herndon at Mike Miracles on Twitter if you want
Speaker 1: to see this, Mike Herndon at Mike Miracles. The video
Speaker 1: shows cornerback Jonathan Joseph looking really confused, like coach, I'm
Speaker 1: not supposed to be out here kind of expression, and
Speaker 1: Rabel sort of telling him through his mask because we
Speaker 1: can't see what he's actually saying, but basically saying, hey,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, everything's okay, just stay out just
Speaker 1: stay out there kind of thing. He does a great
Speaker 1: cell job and gets the penalty, and so in the end, yeah,
Speaker 1: they matriculated it down to the one yard line, they
Speaker 1: ended up getting the touchdown and then they then they
Speaker 1: shot themselves in the foot with a terrible decision to
Speaker 1: go for two, and again the rest is history. But
Speaker 1: those they wouldn't have had one minute and forty five
Speaker 1: seconds to work with the Titans had Vrabel not exploited
Speaker 1: yet another thing in the rule books where he's like, well,
Speaker 1: it's not even avoiding, it's you know what, um, it's
Speaker 1: a positive e V. It is a wind probability plus
Speaker 1: for him to do this right now, to throw out
Speaker 1: a twelve min and take a penalty, stop the clock,
Speaker 1: give them another set of downs. Genius, Chrissie, genius. That's
Speaker 1: the difference between their win and their loss. Okay, one
Speaker 1: thing you said. The announcer was in saying, said, well
Speaker 1: there's another there's a mental mistake by Mirabel on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they said the opposite. Warren sharp on hit House. He
Speaker 1: did the exact same thing. In ten they were playing
Speaker 1: the Jets. The announcer again was Risk Annon, and Rich
Speaker 1: Cannon again said this, well, yeah, he said at first,
Speaker 1: obviously that another mistake by Mike Grabel, a mental error
Speaker 1: by Mike Grabel by having twelve men on the field.
Speaker 1: And both times obviously Brabel did it on purpose to
Speaker 1: save the time, and it went past Rich Scannon twice.
Speaker 1: I gotta say it would have gone past me too
Speaker 1: had somebody not explained it to me. So I think Brabel.
Speaker 1: And by the way, just to remind people out there,
Speaker 1: he was originally a Steeler and I can't remember if
Speaker 1: they cut him or traded him for some late draft
Speaker 1: choice to get him over to New England. And I
Speaker 1: remember at the time they get they crazy. This guy
Speaker 1: is a terrific player, and he's had a great career.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many Super Bowl rings he had,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a terrific coach and he's already
Speaker 1: in certain I'm not gonna put him up with Billichick yet,
Speaker 1: but he's certainly in that upright. And the guy really
Speaker 1: shows a lot of high level thinking, higher than most
Speaker 1: of these coaches. Service he joined the Patriots as a
Speaker 1: free agent. By the way, two, I think that Steelers
Speaker 1: might have just cut him. Yeah, it could be. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's just a amazing play, amazing heads up play
Speaker 1: or heads up coaching decision by Mike Vrabel. And again
Speaker 1: that's the difference between winning and losing. And certainly Romeo
Speaker 1: Crennell then helped out as well after that, but they
Speaker 1: don't get there without that decision from Rabel. So the
Speaker 1: Titans remain undefeated. I'm guessing, because Jason kind of tipped
Speaker 1: me off on this, that the Titans is the next game.
Speaker 1: H No, I think that's Seahawks and Cardinals next. Seahawks
Speaker 1: and Cardinals. Pardon me, Seahawks and Cardinals. Seahawks are coming
Speaker 1: off of buy and the Cardinals haven't played yet. Cardinals
Speaker 1: played the Cowboys again tonight in the second of the
Speaker 1: two Monday Night games, the originally scheduled Monday Night game
Speaker 1: between the Cardinals and the Cowboys, where the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: now one and a half point dogs in this game, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Seattle shouldn't be three points. The other thing,
Speaker 1: Seattle is undefeated, but good lord, I mean it's Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson escape jobs as per usual, I'll say it's a
Speaker 1: I'll split the difference between three in pick. I'll say Seattle,
Speaker 1: mindus one and a half. Well, it's three with Juice
Speaker 1: on the favorite, Sea Dogs being the favorite, and I
Speaker 1: haven't hired net. You know my opinion of Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: and I do not want to go into Sunday's game
Speaker 1: rooting against Russell Wilson because, first of all, I think
Speaker 1: they I think the Cardinals lose tonight. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm opening three and a half on this one. They
Speaker 1: might jump in and take it because it's three with
Speaker 1: Juice on the favorite. But I'm opening three and a half.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know what you want to bet against? Run?
Speaker 1: Please do that? Please? Because I'm so tired of rooting
Speaker 1: against the sky every single week and usually getting my
Speaker 1: handed to me at the end of the day. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I like Seattle. I've said it many times.
Speaker 1: I hate betting against Russell Wilson, but you know who else?
Speaker 1: I hate betting against Kyler Murray too. That might be
Speaker 1: my first play. That might be the first one I like.
Speaker 1: Here on guessing lines Arizona against Sight unseen and played
Speaker 1: yet they played tonight. But if it's more than three,
Speaker 1: I'll grab the Cardinals for sure. In that one. They
Speaker 1: will be on short rest though, as they played tonight.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more here. Uh at the
Speaker 1: Patriots the forty Niners. At the Patriots. Forty Niners win
Speaker 1: last night. Uh. They beat the Rams by the score
Speaker 1: of twenty four to sixteen as two point home dogs.
Speaker 1: Jimmy g u gets in the game twenty three of
Speaker 1: thirty three, three touchdowns, no picks, uh, no sacks, Kittle,
Speaker 1: no surprise as biggest target seven for one O nine
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. So San Francisco beats the Rams, probably
Speaker 1: the fewest plays of a prime time NFL game I've watched,
Speaker 1: quite frankly yet this year because the Dodgers and the
Speaker 1: uh The Dodgers and the Braves had their Game seven
Speaker 1: going last night, and I was far more invested in
Speaker 1: that affair that I that I was in this football game,
Speaker 1: if I'm just being honest. But I saw enough and
Speaker 1: Jason was telling me, you saw the right play, which
Speaker 1: was that Jared golf pick in the end zone when
Speaker 1: it was twenty one to nine and the Rams had
Speaker 1: a shot, and then he threw that pass in the
Speaker 1: end zone. New England yesterday, this was the big one.
Speaker 1: This is the biggest survivor lost yesterday. New England loses
Speaker 1: to Denver and they lose to Denver by the score
Speaker 1: of eighteen to twelve. Denver scored on their first six possessions,
Speaker 1: all six Brandon McManus field goals, and those points held up.
Speaker 1: New England ended up Cam's numbers. Cam was seventeen to
Speaker 1: twenty five in the end for one fifty seven, but
Speaker 1: he had gained seventy six yards on the ground on
Speaker 1: ten carries with a touchdown, but he only threw, so
Speaker 1: he ran for seventy six. He only threw for one
Speaker 1: fifty seven. Edelman threw two passes on this final drift,
Speaker 1: so here's the thing. In this game, it was eighteen
Speaker 1: to twelve, and it was well, first of all, was
Speaker 1: eighteen to nine, and then all of a sudden Drew
Speaker 1: Lock and the Broncos decided, you know what, we're gonna
Speaker 1: throw down field because that's what that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Like if you had told me, are you the team
Speaker 1: that's up eighteen and nine or the team that's down
Speaker 1: eighteen to nine. So Lock throws two cans secutive picks
Speaker 1: deep downfield. The first one leads to a New England
Speaker 1: Patriots uh field goal that makes it eighteen to twelve.
Speaker 1: The second one, you're like, are you kidding me? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? Milk the clock? Make the mus their
Speaker 1: time mounts win this. So the Patriots end up with
Speaker 1: the ball and a chance to win, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is happening. They go to two
Speaker 1: Edelman trick plays. Edelman ends up two for two for
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards, but in the end, the Broncos get
Speaker 1: the stop and the Patriots lose three turnovers for the
Speaker 1: Patriots in this game, so that we're minus one in
Speaker 1: that department. Despite the Drew Lock picks late, it's the
Speaker 1: Patriots worst start at two and three since two thousand one,
Speaker 1: and get this, the first loss under Bill Belichick when
Speaker 1: not allowing a touchdown? How about that um San Francisco
Speaker 1: at in New England. Now this is gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the first hour of this show
Speaker 1: there wasn't much in terms of a line discrepancy. But
Speaker 1: we've started out with a bang here in this one,
Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll say New England minus three just because
Speaker 1: they're the Patriots. Yeah, it's it's a little higher. I
Speaker 1: see one, three and a half. A lot of juice
Speaker 1: on the dog, mostly three juice on the favorite. So
Speaker 1: you know at the south Point we open or we
Speaker 1: do everything in eleven and tent, not just open, we
Speaker 1: do everything in the eleven and tent. I'm opening three
Speaker 1: flat and I again, well, first of all, my my
Speaker 1: point of rings on the Niners have been like all
Speaker 1: over the place because all the injuries they've had, including
Speaker 1: Garoppolo but also a myriad of other players. But are
Speaker 1: we sure the Patriots are any good? Yeah? And are
Speaker 1: we now wondering? Are we now saying ourselves? Oh, this
Speaker 1: is why nobody wanted to sign Cam Newton to an
Speaker 1: exorbitant contract in the off season because he has not
Speaker 1: looked good. He had one good game and when the opener,
Speaker 1: and we thought it was the second coming, but he
Speaker 1: has not looked very good since then. Uh to me, three,
Speaker 1: three to me is a take. I would take three
Speaker 1: with the forty Niners. I think this New England team
Speaker 1: they're suffering from the same exact thing that they suffered
Speaker 1: from last year. No skill position players to help a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And last year they had Brady. This year, Uh, this
Speaker 1: year they don't. They have Newton, who I think maybe
Speaker 1: it's just a shell of themselves. So I think I
Speaker 1: think three to me is a definite take for the
Speaker 1: forty Niners. And I'm gonna open three, but it's it's
Speaker 1: three with juice, so they'll probably lay it to me
Speaker 1: and have that it. You're welcome to it. I was
Speaker 1: really hoping you were going to tell me New England
Speaker 1: was like a four and a half point favorite, because
Speaker 1: that I just wanted there to be a New England bump.
Speaker 1: But maybe there isn't one anymore after seeing that yesterday.
Speaker 1: So three it is. By the way, it's it interesting
Speaker 1: you keep saying, you know, are we sure this team
Speaker 1: is good? Are we sure that team is good. That's
Speaker 1: sort of been a theme on MSG plus on Primetime Action,
Speaker 1: the show that I do UM with Matt Brown and
Speaker 1: Danielle Ovary and Kelly Bidlin, where we do in game betting.
Speaker 1: We talk now specifically in the a f C. We
Speaker 1: get who's good. Kansas City is good, Baltimore is good,
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Tennessee Pittsburgh as well. You can't really deny
Speaker 1: that those are good football teams. Maybe maybe there's a
Speaker 1: flaw here and there with them. Okay, none of them
Speaker 1: are perfect, but those are good football teams. Can we
Speaker 1: say there isn't a glaring flaw in any of the
Speaker 1: NFC teams? Maybe Tampa Bay, maybe Tampa Bay's the best
Speaker 1: of the bunch after what we saw yesterday, might be,
Speaker 1: but like the rest of them, I just don't know
Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense and that good. Certainly going back to
Speaker 1: the a f C, certainly New England. Uh No, they're
Speaker 1: not good at all. There's a lot of teams that are.
Speaker 1: First of all, there's a lot of bad teams, right.
Speaker 1: I used say this about baseball. The last three years,
Speaker 1: the chasm between the halvens and the have nots have
Speaker 1: widened increasingly every year. You're seeing guys you know who
Speaker 1: aren't aces at minus two seventy and minus two eight
Speaker 1: in games. We didn't see that three or four years ago. Football. Man,
Speaker 1: there's so many bad teams. Um, I'm not saying New
Speaker 1: England's one of them, but they're not good. So San
Speaker 1: Francisco at New England, New England favored by three, and
Speaker 1: I might be with you it might be a take
Speaker 1: on the Niners from even at that number. What is next, sir?
Speaker 1: Are we in the afternoon yet that game was? The
Speaker 1: game was the afternoon? Sorry, I mean to skip. The
Speaker 1: Titans game is in the morning, so it must be
Speaker 1: at the end of the rotation because something Okay, that
Speaker 1: no problem. What's next, Chris? This is an afternoon game,
Speaker 1: Kansas City at Denver. Alright, Kansas City, we haven't seen
Speaker 1: them play. They're playing Buffalo again this afternoon. Don't forget
Speaker 1: five pm Eastern two pm Pacific for the Bills Chiefs
Speaker 1: game today, and the Chiefs are five and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites there. But as far as the Chiefs at
Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Broncos in that win over the Patriots.
Speaker 1: True luck ten of twenty No touchdowns. The two picks
Speaker 1: I just mentioned sacked twice. So it wasn't that last
Speaker 1: those last couple of sequences of of you know, those
Speaker 1: last drives, he would have had a pretty you know,
Speaker 1: clean game at least in terms of the turnovers, for sure,
Speaker 1: at the very least. But he had picks with five
Speaker 1: fifteen left in the game, up eighteen to nine, which
Speaker 1: led to a field goal as I mentioned, and then
Speaker 1: at eighteen to twelve another the next play from scrimmage
Speaker 1: with three fourteen left, and then the defense holds up
Speaker 1: with fifty eight seconds left, they finally stopped the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Good Lord, Lindsay one oh one Tim Patrick four catches
Speaker 1: for one oh one. The other thing about that game, Chrissie,
Speaker 1: one other last note about Denver and New England, besides
Speaker 1: the ridiculous lock picks, like, what are the Broncos doing?
Speaker 1: Do you know how any penalties were called in that
Speaker 1: whole game? Three three penalties? New England had one penalty
Speaker 1: for four yards ned in that game. It's just amazing.
Speaker 1: They really are just holding these uh these flags in
Speaker 1: their pockets. And as I mentioned, the Broncos scored on
Speaker 1: their first six possessions, but all were field goals. All
Speaker 1: that said, again, barrying anything unforeseen tonight with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Chiefs have got to be ten point favorites here, right,
Speaker 1: I've seen anywhere between eight and a half and nine
Speaker 1: and a half. My numbers come to eight and a half,
Speaker 1: you know, Gil, I was looking through some of my
Speaker 1: notes and when the Puncos were oh and three, let
Speaker 1: me see who did they lose to. They lost to
Speaker 1: the Titans, the Steelers in the Bucks. So all pretty
Speaker 1: good teams. And really again except for the Buccaneers, had
Speaker 1: really a pretty good showing against the other two I
Speaker 1: had in my notes. I said, watch out for this team,
Speaker 1: not that they are any good, but kind of the
Speaker 1: way I thought about Cincinnati, a team that could be
Speaker 1: a live dog covering a lot of numbers, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to stick with that. Um Now, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go too far off the number here because Kansas
Speaker 1: City's always going to attract a lot of money. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I see anywhere from eight half to
Speaker 1: nine and a half. I'm not going in the middle
Speaker 1: with a nine. Uh. And even though Kansas City it's
Speaker 1: probably still the best team in the league, they're certainly
Speaker 1: right up there. But I think Denver is going to
Speaker 1: be that kind of team. Look out for them covering
Speaker 1: some big numbers, and this is you know, nine, certainly
Speaker 1: a big number, especially for home team, and I kind
Speaker 1: of I'm not circling Kansas City yet, I mean Denver yet,
Speaker 1: but I would keep an eye on them and watch
Speaker 1: for them from here on in. Like I said, much
Speaker 1: situation like Cincinnati. If you see him catching a big number,
Speaker 1: take a second look at them, because I think they
Speaker 1: might be worth a play and that, but they might
Speaker 1: be worth a play in the spot too. You know
Speaker 1: what my relationship with Drew lock is. I think I
Speaker 1: underrated him to begin with, criminally, and now I think
Speaker 1: I'm overrating him. I think that's I think that might
Speaker 1: be the case with him. Well there's another guy can
Speaker 1: use some good coaching, and I'm not sure he's getting
Speaker 1: that in Denver. Yeah, yeah, you're right. That's gonna hold
Speaker 1: them back. And I don't know what they were thinking.
Speaker 1: I mean, on a day when we're talking about Romeo
Speaker 1: Crenell and Ron Rivera, I do not know what the
Speaker 1: Broncos were thinking in the last stretch of that game
Speaker 1: play to win. My goodness. We'll get to some more
Speaker 1: lines to guess Week seven in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: a whole bunch more to get to, including uh, the
Speaker 1: primetime games as well. Well, we're jumping ahead here at
Speaker 1: a prime time Okay, they're all over the place here,
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, but we want to go
Speaker 1: in rotation order and my correct Okay, sure we can
Speaker 1: do it that way. Okay, al right. The Sunday night
Speaker 1: came Tampa Bay at Las Vegas. All right, we talked
Speaker 1: about Tampa Bay, big win for those of us who
Speaker 1: had Tampa Bay. But they really they got players back,
Speaker 1: They got Godwin back, specifically Tom Brady. Yesterday seventeen of
Speaker 1: twenty seven for one sixty six. Didn't have to do
Speaker 1: much once the defense got them under way. As as
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, the two the one pick six
Speaker 1: and then the other interception consecutive consecutive drives for the Packers.
Speaker 1: Four plays is all it took to have the two interceptions.
Speaker 1: The next one was returned all the way to the
Speaker 1: two yard line, and a ten to nothing Packers lead
Speaker 1: was immediately reversed into a fourteen to ten Buccaneers lead.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight straight for the Bucks. They went at thirty
Speaker 1: eight to ten Ronald Jones second one thirteen with two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Gronk five for seventy eight and his first touchdown as
Speaker 1: a Buccaneer. Good for Gronk. Tampa Bay no penalties for
Speaker 1: no yards. How about that? You don't see that very often?
Speaker 1: Zero penalties, zero yards for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We're
Speaker 1: talking about only three penalties were called in the New
Speaker 1: England uh Denver game, with New England getting one. Well,
Speaker 1: how about a clean sheet from the Buccaneers and they're
Speaker 1: playing the Raiders. The Raiders will come off a a
Speaker 1: week of rest. They have a bye week this week.
Speaker 1: We know that because Brent traveled all the way to
Speaker 1: Montana for the bye week. He's like, I'm taking the
Speaker 1: week off. Kind enough of Brent to do the megapod though,
Speaker 1: So it'll be Tampa Bay at the at the Raiders
Speaker 1: here at what is just that's listen the year of
Speaker 1: and COVID what ah, What a sad for Raiders fans.
Speaker 1: It would have loved to have had Tom Brady to
Speaker 1: see at the brand new stadium. I'll say Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be more than three. I'll say three and
Speaker 1: a half Tampa Bay minus three and a half. Now
Speaker 1: it's three with juice on the dog. So three is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open three. My numbers four and a half
Speaker 1: and my numbers are four and a half and no
Speaker 1: home field. I think you have to give him a
Speaker 1: little home field here, So I think the three sounds fine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of respect for the Raiders. Like
Speaker 1: I said, there's we do everything flat at the south point,
Speaker 1: so we'll open it three flat. I'll probably bet me
Speaker 1: the Raiders because I see it all three with juice
Speaker 1: on the dog. Explain that to people who are tuning
Speaker 1: in for the first time, Christie, Explain what you mean
Speaker 1: by because they're like flat, What do you mean he
Speaker 1: doesn't have half points? That's not what you mean. No,
Speaker 1: we have that point. But we we do everything at
Speaker 1: minus one ten or eleven at ten, however we want
Speaker 1: to phrase that, we don't. We don't put you. We
Speaker 1: don't use like three minus a ball or twenty or
Speaker 1: or seven minus a dollar twenty or you know any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Everything is minus one tent, you know,
Speaker 1: on the board for sides and totals. Now, first half,
Speaker 1: second half, those we do some fanagal in there. But
Speaker 1: as far as like the games themselves. No, everything is
Speaker 1: minus one tent, everything, everything, everything, Keep making it as
Speaker 1: simple as possible. And uh, Michael Gone and Frank Todi
Speaker 1: has a longtime partner of insistent on it. And the
Speaker 1: thing was, I don't resist it at all. And when
Speaker 1: I was in Kelneva for twenty two years, I did
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, you know. I mean they're re
Speaker 1: used minus one tent. That's what the number is. And
Speaker 1: you know, I know there's probably places where it fits
Speaker 1: better or I don't blame them for doing that, but
Speaker 1: for us, this is what we want to do because
Speaker 1: we want to bring in you know, your everyday customer.
Speaker 1: And it's very you know, it's not that complex. You know,
Speaker 1: a game might go from three to three and a half,
Speaker 1: but you are going to lay minus one tent. That
Speaker 1: is a promise that we have here at the out point.
Speaker 1: Say a couple of tweets here at beating the book.
Speaker 1: Always appreciate the tweets. Adam Rosenberg Vrabel is absolutely the
Speaker 1: best coach in the NFL. Remember how shrewd he was
Speaker 1: on that delay of game penalty last year against the
Speaker 1: Bats in the playoffs. Yeah, we discussed it this morning.
Speaker 1: Adam uh, I Evan love this guy. This sort of
Speaker 1: thing isn't happening without analytics. Yeah, well no, we went
Speaker 1: through the whole delay of game thing and now it's
Speaker 1: no longer permitted. Talking about Vrabel's intentional twelve men on
Speaker 1: the field yesterday, which is the lesser of the two
Speaker 1: things discussed from that game, the more discussing obviously being
Speaker 1: Romeo Crenell's decision to go for two ups seven late
Speaker 1: thirty six to twenty nine. Bainbridge DeWeese has this to
Speaker 1: say about that, similar to Chrissy's question last week about
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Do the analytics take into account that Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry is on the other team. I think this is
Speaker 1: Brainbridge talking. I think Romeo knew that if the Titans
Speaker 1: did get the touchdown, the two point would be much
Speaker 1: higher than fifty fifty. That's an interesting tweet. My response,
Speaker 1: I'm curious what yours would be, Chrissy. My my response is,
Speaker 1: I think we're giving Romeo too much credit with that. Bainbridge,
Speaker 1: I know we mentioned him last. I think it was
Speaker 1: last week on this show. It might have been two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I had a pretty observant tweet in that
Speaker 1: regard to so that that's a pretty good one. But
Speaker 1: I still think, yeah, listen, we're not ready to score
Speaker 1: the two yet, he's still got to go down and
Speaker 1: get a touchdown in the first place. That's right, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm still yeah, yeah, we we aren't in a position
Speaker 1: we're not automatically giving them six and then telling them
Speaker 1: to go for two. And Romeo would have said that
Speaker 1: because he was questioned on this after the game and
Speaker 1: he said, no, I was just trying to put him
Speaker 1: away basically, right, if you get to if you get
Speaker 1: it to nine, you know, game set, match. Um, he
Speaker 1: would have said. On top of that, at that moment,
Speaker 1: he would have said, like, well, because I also thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, Derrick Henry blah blah blah more than fifty
Speaker 1: on two points. But it is an interesting tweet, Bainbridge,
Speaker 1: and we thank you for bringing that up. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: give me the matchup. I won't we won't have time
Speaker 1: because we're gonna go to break. But what are the
Speaker 1: matchups that are left. Jaguars at the Chargers, Steelers at
Speaker 1: the Titans, Bears at the Rams on Monday night. That's like,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of good ones at the end there,
Speaker 1: including a battle of undefeateds between the Steelers and the Titans.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll guess those lines and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: what we like so far. I'm thinking Arizona. Oh, let's
Speaker 1: see here, Arizona and San Francisco. I think I like
Speaker 1: the best. Will will review all of it, Chris, He'll
Speaker 1: give what he likes. Welcome back to a numbers game
Speaker 1: with Jill Alexander Jason. I have a confession to make,
Speaker 1: and I know that everybody's been waiting for this confession
Speaker 1: for me. I love that Justin Bieber song on Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live. I think I like Justin Bieber, but it's
Speaker 1: more Chance the Rapper. I think that wrote that song
Speaker 1: Holy that he performed on Saturday Night Live. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to find it. Reminds me a chance
Speaker 1: the Rappers us on Day Candy. I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: good song. Chrissie. What do you know about Justin Bieber? Anything? Nothing? Nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you and I could be friends anymore.
Speaker 1: I thought that might have some impact. Do you think
Speaker 1: of all the things that have gone on in this
Speaker 1: last week, that would be the thing that would send
Speaker 1: it over that the it's awesome. Alright, three board games
Speaker 1: to get to what you got. We all had a
Speaker 1: good laugh. Yeah, Jaguars at the Chargers. Jaguars are one
Speaker 1: in five. Jaguars lose to the Allions. As we talked about,
Speaker 1: thirty four to sixteen minshoot four to forty three, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: one pick, he was sacked once, Keelan Cole six catches
Speaker 1: for one forty three. Jaguars only had forty four rushing yards,
Speaker 1: only had the ball for twenty four oh three. It's
Speaker 1: their worst start. That's saying something with the jack Wars.
Speaker 1: One in five is the Jaguars worst start since they've
Speaker 1: allowed thirty plus points in five straight games? Is that good?
Speaker 1: And they're playing the Charges? Charges coming off a by
Speaker 1: I'll say Chargers, who are one in four of themselves,
Speaker 1: by the way, but we think of them quite differently
Speaker 1: because they probably should have beaten the Saints, so they
Speaker 1: should have beaten the Buccaneers. I'll say Chargers minus seven.
Speaker 1: Am I low? You are low? It's anywhere from seven
Speaker 1: and a half to eight and a half. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be at the eight and a half, you know, And
Speaker 1: I know the Charges lost a couple of close games,
Speaker 1: But justin Herbert, I think is just ready to explode.
Speaker 1: And I think Jacksonville is ready to sink like a
Speaker 1: rock the way we kind of thought they were in
Speaker 1: the off season, and we let that first game out
Speaker 1: of the blocks. We let that kind of change our
Speaker 1: opinion on them. Uh. You know, the only reason when
Speaker 1: we're talking about them more is because of the Jets
Speaker 1: being as bad as they are. But I think Jacksonville
Speaker 1: was in a race to the bottom. They'll probably finished
Speaker 1: second of the Jets, but they're in a race to
Speaker 1: the bottom. And I think this Charger team, you know,
Speaker 1: I question they're coaching at times, but not the talent,
Speaker 1: and I think this is the kind of game where
Speaker 1: they could just absolutely explode, and I think they will. Uh.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I see it anywhere from seven a
Speaker 1: half to eight and a half. I'm using the eight
Speaker 1: and a half. I like the highest number of possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know how usually you often
Speaker 1: say I like your number better than than this one.
Speaker 1: I like your better number than mine. As soon as
Speaker 1: it came out of my mouth, I was like, I
Speaker 1: think I'm low because I think you're right. It should
Speaker 1: be more than seven. So eight and a half from
Speaker 1: Christie Chargers verus Jacksonville. All right, next, Okay, a good one,
Speaker 1: maybe the best game of the week. Steelers at the
Speaker 1: Titans five and oh versus five and oh Big Ben
Speaker 1: in the Steelers route of the Browns yesterday, fourteen of
Speaker 1: twenty two for one sixty two, one touchdown. Note Pixie
Speaker 1: was sacked twice. James Conner carries one on one in
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Claypool four for seventy four, also carried one
Speaker 1: in the end zone on the ground. James Washington four
Speaker 1: for six eight a touchdown. Bad news for the Steelers
Speaker 1: though with Devin Bush their standout line yeah, feared to
Speaker 1: have a significant knee injury. We will get the official
Speaker 1: update here today And as far as Tennessee, we talked
Speaker 1: about it ad nauseum, not only the Romeo Crenell decision
Speaker 1: to go for two up thirty six to twenty nine,
Speaker 1: but prior to that, Mike Vrabel with an intentional twelve
Speaker 1: men on the field to basically save his team forty seconds,
Speaker 1: so fourth and goal at the one and then fourth
Speaker 1: and goal at the one. Uh. Again, we talked about
Speaker 1: a Houston decides to go for it. That was the
Speaker 1: proper move with one fifty three left Watson to Cook's touchdown,
Speaker 1: but then they failed to get the two point conversion.
Speaker 1: Eleven place seventies six yard, one minute, forty one second
Speaker 1: drive for the Titans that ended with tanneh Hill to
Speaker 1: Brown seven yard score. They win the coin flipp in
Speaker 1: overtime because of course they do, and then on the
Speaker 1: second play tanne Hill to Henry fifty three yards four
Speaker 1: plays later, Henry crashes in from the five ballgame forty
Speaker 1: to thirty six. Fourth win this season by the Titans,
Speaker 1: Chrissy by six points or fewer. They're living right. Tannehill
Speaker 1: thirty of forty one for three sixty four, four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick, two sacks, Henry twenty two for two twelve
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns and then two catches for fifty two
Speaker 1: included in that two d twelve yards rushing a ninety
Speaker 1: four yards signature Derrick Henry touchdown scamper with nine thirty
Speaker 1: seven left in the fourth quarter to put Tennessee up
Speaker 1: twenty seven and twenty three in what was a topsy
Speaker 1: turvy fourth quarter. Anthony Firkser eight catches for one thirteen
Speaker 1: and touchdown six hundred and one total yards of offense
Speaker 1: for the Titans. It's a franchise record, including to sixty
Speaker 1: three on the ground. You know, Houston had four twelve
Speaker 1: and they got out gained by almost two hundred yards.
Speaker 1: It's the second five and oh starting franchise history for
Speaker 1: the Titans. Two thousand eight was the last time. They
Speaker 1: also may have some bad news. We have that tweet
Speaker 1: Jason Dewey Taylor Luanne uh, their standout left tackle. He
Speaker 1: uh could have a major, major injury as well. Here
Speaker 1: it is from Chris Mortenson, the mort Report Titans starting
Speaker 1: left tackle Taylor Win. We'll have an m R I
Speaker 1: on Monday morning to determine if he indeed suffered to
Speaker 1: torn a c L that team physicians diagnosed early in
Speaker 1: the Titans Texans game, as Jay Glazer reported earlier this evening.
Speaker 1: This is from More yesterday. So um wins for both
Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Titans, but both teams might have
Speaker 1: lost somebody key. I'll tell you, I don't know how you.
Speaker 1: I never have guessed pick ums this year, but this
Speaker 1: is kind of a pick um to me. I'll say,
Speaker 1: pick them. Well, I like your number better. I see it,
Speaker 1: I see the Pittsburgh I see Pittsburgh favorite anywhere from
Speaker 1: one and a half to two and a half. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I my numbers, come to pick them myself,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm sure all you're from the Black and
Speaker 1: goal out there. Tell me the power of negative thinking. Chris,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, you know, but think this game is
Speaker 1: a real legitimate pick. That that's a big injury though
Speaker 1: it left tackle for the Titans because you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna have to pressure Tannehill and they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to obviously stop their wrong with Derrick Henry. I
Speaker 1: made a little note here for guys. Some of you
Speaker 1: young guys out there might not remember Eric Dickerson. Uh,
Speaker 1: kind of a forgotten running back, but a guy who
Speaker 1: had two thousand yards one year, you know, a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame running back. Derrick Henry reminds me a little
Speaker 1: bit of Eric Dickerson. So if you want to get
Speaker 1: some film equips that Eric Dickerson, go take a look
Speaker 1: at him. I'm not ready to put Henry above Dickerson yet,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of that style of the running back
Speaker 1: and I'm both are terrific, but I uh this to
Speaker 1: me to pick the games, So I'm gonna open one
Speaker 1: and a half just because I see it as high
Speaker 1: as two and a half out there, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open one and a half. And they'll probably been to
Speaker 1: the Steelers and puts some come Sunday morning, I'm sure
Speaker 1: I'll be rooting for the Steelers, But money wise, I
Speaker 1: think this game should be a pick. I hope people
Speaker 1: haven't forgotten about Eric Dickerson. But you know what, that's
Speaker 1: a great comparison. Derrick Henry is a bigger version of
Speaker 1: Dickerson in the sense that they both ran upright right.
Speaker 1: They both ran up tall and have a surprisingly unbelievable
Speaker 1: north south speed. Not not guys who will who go
Speaker 1: in different directions quickly, but when they get out in
Speaker 1: the field and you're like, oh, this guy will get caught.
Speaker 1: And it was amazing how they would never get caught.
Speaker 1: Both of these guys. You're like, how is Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: going to get to the house at that size? It
Speaker 1: was the same with Dickerson, except for that time that
Speaker 1: Darryl Green ran him down, But he ran down everybody,
Speaker 1: all right. One more, what do you got? Bears at
Speaker 1: the Rams? Bears at the Rams five and one, Verses
Speaker 1: four and two. The Bears are five and one. Payer Tiger,
Speaker 1: I guess, but man, there's still five and one folds
Speaker 1: yesterday and the win against the Panthers twenty three or
Speaker 1: thirty nine, one touchdown to pick sacked zero times, only
Speaker 1: two d sixty one total yards of offense for the Bears,
Speaker 1: UH ten penalties for ninety two yards. They got to
Speaker 1: clean that up, but they were plus two in turnovers
Speaker 1: and at five and one, that's the best start for
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Brent Musburger said it on our podcast
Speaker 1: on the megapod the other day. He was like, because
Speaker 1: a couple of us had the Panthers, he was like,
Speaker 1: be aware of that Bears defense. And he did it
Speaker 1: in that Brent voice, so it had much more gravitas
Speaker 1: than it otherwise would have the Rams yesterday lose. As
Speaker 1: we mentioned to the to the Niners golf nineteen thirty eight,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns a pick, uh sacked zero times. But again
Speaker 1: when they were down twenty one to nine, they were
Speaker 1: knocking at the door and then he threw that pick
Speaker 1: on fourth down, and that was kind of it for
Speaker 1: the Rams. That was their most credible chance in that
Speaker 1: ball game yesterday. I will say the Rams will be
Speaker 1: favored here though for all the reasons we stated about
Speaker 1: the Bears time and time again, how so many of
Speaker 1: those wins could have just as easily been lost as
Speaker 1: though not yesterday. So I'll say the Rams, and I'll
Speaker 1: make it as high as six. How about that it's
Speaker 1: five and a half and six a little more five
Speaker 1: and a half. I like the five and a half
Speaker 1: a little better. The total here we're looking at his
Speaker 1: forty six, which a decade ago would have been a
Speaker 1: high total. Now it's one of the lowest totals on
Speaker 1: the board for the Sunday's games. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: I think it's the second lowest total. Uh So I
Speaker 1: think that this should be a pretty close game. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with the five and a half here.
Speaker 1: But I you know, what Brent says is true that
Speaker 1: bare defense is really really good now the Rams. I
Speaker 1: know you've talked a couple of times about that interception
Speaker 1: in the end zone. That kid for San Francisco actually
Speaker 1: had his name. I know he's bounced around a little bit.
Speaker 1: He made an unbelievable play. That was a great interception.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm the one to not fallt Golf
Speaker 1: because he should have read the defense a little bit better.
Speaker 1: But that kid made a fantastic play. But it was
Speaker 1: fourth down. I mean, golf had to throw the ball
Speaker 1: in the end zone. I mean, you know, no sense
Speaker 1: in uh throwing it away or anything else, and he
Speaker 1: didn't have a safe place to go. But I think
Speaker 1: the Rams still look pretty good. I think they do.
Speaker 1: But I like the lower number here just because I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a fairly low scoring game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about Jason Varette also the Niners.
Speaker 1: That's who it was, Jason Jason Barrett. I'm sorry, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's okay. So what I like best in the end
Speaker 1: is I think I like San Francisco at New England.
Speaker 1: What was your number there again? Three? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I like, if you give me the hook, I like
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I think I like Arizona against Seattle. And
Speaker 1: you know what, Chrissie, if Buffaloes only ten against the Jets,
Speaker 1: I may lay the ten. How about you? Well, what's
Speaker 1: the leven in my place? I can tell you that
Speaker 1: I like Carolina getting over seven. I like San Francisco
Speaker 1: and we're going to head to head. I like Seattle
Speaker 1: over Abo. That's why we do this. Chrissie, thank you
Speaker 1: as always, I appreciate it, my pleasure. Chris Andrew's, everybody
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