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Speaker 1: Number One liking this special edition holiday treat video for you.

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Speaker 1: Number two, subscribe into this podcast. We're like sixty nine

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be great to be at that spot where

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Speaker 2: My whole life has been just constantly trying to prove

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Speaker 2: how am I doing? Well?

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Speaker 2: No, BC, I exercised more caution than that. I just

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Speaker 2: I can't really talk about it, but I have to

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Speaker 2: But there you go, technical difficulties and dissected and pro sected.

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Speaker 1: I like the name, though, well done technical difficulties. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: you got? What do you got? All right, Luke? Out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fauci had a good year. But of these MMA fighters, Luke,

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Speaker 2: and he beats Leon Edwards. Okay, then at that point

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Speaker 2: you have definitive evidence. Beating Gerald Meerschart in the way

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Speaker 1: So let's just tell the truth there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Am I a filthy cash?

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Speaker 2: Who else? Z? Yeah? He does? He's I think he's Moroccan.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I do remember that. See, here's what happens.

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Speaker 1: And let's be honest, Luke, this isn't you know, This

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, dude, Yanblohovitch

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, Johnny Blockowitch, Yeah, I know that guy. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, yeah, it's team me up, Luke.

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Speaker 3: Here let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's all right, here we go. Which happens first? BC?

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Speaker 2: You got three choices? Which happens first? A UFC abandons

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I'm tempted to say three. Let me try

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Speaker 1: We have major league promoters, mid level, small level ones,

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Speaker 1: or like the equivalent of like the last UFC pay

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Speaker 1: per view we just saw, Luke, it's just like a

428
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Speaker 1: complete mail and mostly you know, it's all the same price,

429
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Speaker 1: and look, it's it's worked to a degree, but you

430
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Speaker 1: could argue if they'd gone the other way or if

431
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Speaker 1: they split that up. So I don't think we're gonna

432
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Speaker 1: get there yet. It's gotta be see. So the answer,

433
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Speaker 1: Luke is or the question off of the answer is

434
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Speaker 1: who will it be? Now? It could be Henry s

435
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Speaker 1: Hudo if they give him a chance, and somebody like

436
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 1: Volkanowski's the champ who is smaller, and so Hudo goes

437
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: out there and fights a great fight. It always could

438
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Speaker 1: be somebody like Connor McGregor if he goes in there

439
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: against the right welterweight and knocks him out, even though

440
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: we've proved. I think he's proven to this point, Luke

441
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: and three welterweight fights, one against Seroni that doesn't count,

442
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: but two against a legitimate Now is naty as a

443
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: legitimate walter wait or is he blown up lately?

444
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: He's a he's a blown up light weight.

445
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: Okay, but he didn't have knockout power in that he

446
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: had beat your ass power. He had cut you and

447
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: knock you down power. He didn't knockout power, but still

448
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: he could. He could potentially stop somebody. He's in this equation,

449
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: but it's probably more likely to be in Israel out

450
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: of Sonia. If he can go up there and in

451
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Speaker 1: one fight win the two O five title and then say, look,

452
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna f around. I used

453
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: to kickbox at heavy, so I'm gonna go up And

454
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: let's say John Jones is the champion. Let's say they

455
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: have this epic fight and not is he. It's possible.

456
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: It's in play, Luke, is there anyone else we're not

457
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: thinking of? I don't think Valentina can get down to

458
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: one one five? Is there anybody else we are not

459
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: thinking of?

460
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Speaker 2: Could Figuredo win at one? I mean he hasn't won

461
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 2: the bantam weight belt, but he obviously could make bans

462
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: and weight and be competitive there.

463
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Feathers, could he do it?

464
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't think he could do it.

465
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Speaker 1: He's so small. Yeah, I don't.

466
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Speaker 2: I don't so. Yeah, your two clubhouse leaders if he

467
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: came back, would be Sahudo uh con if he gets

468
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: a welterway title shot somehow depending on the matchup, and

469
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: then autosignia, those are your.

470
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: If comes out Chamayev lives up to his top end building.

471
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: I guess you could win one in every weight class, right, Okay,

472
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: there you go.

473
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Speaker 2: I suppose that would be uh, that would be one.

474
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Speaker 2: All right, hit me with the next one.

475
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Speaker 1: All right, this is Luke, it says, if Luke had

476
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Speaker 1: Wait is this to me or you? I don't understand

477
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Speaker 1: how the people write.

478
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Right?

479
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: Is this me reading it to you? I guess so? Right,

480
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Speaker 1: number five on our.

481
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Speaker 2: List here, Yeah, that's you have to read that. I

482
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Speaker 2: just read the last one.

483
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Speaker 1: Okay, Luke? If Luke meaning you had been in a

484
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: few Good Men the movie, would you have given PFC

485
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: William Santiago the code read if ordered to do so?

486
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Speaker 2: Okay, so Private first Class William Santiago, would I have

487
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: given the code read? Probably? Did?

488
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Speaker 1: Have you seen this movie like parts of it on

489
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Speaker 1: HBO as a kid.

490
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Speaker 3: I don't remember the storyline.

491
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Speaker 1: I remember the big moments, of course, but you can't

492
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Speaker 1: handle Here's how you can't handle the fact that I

493
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Speaker 1: can't remember it.

494
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Speaker 2: Okay, dude, Here's how warped the Marines are. The Marines

495
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: are made in this movie by the people who made

496
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: it to look like bullies who are just like ravenous

497
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: about power and physical domination over each other.

498
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Speaker 1: I know you seems right, And I was like, dude,

499
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: if you talk to Marines about of you good men,

500
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: they're like, God, I love the Marines and how they're

501
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: portrayed in this movie.

502
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, they're being portrayed as bad guys, right,

503
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: and they're like yeah, but in the best way possible.

504
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: So it's just something you have to understand. Listen, in

505
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: my time in the Marine Corps, I saw an absolute

506
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: fuck ton of hazeing. But one of the reasons why

507
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: this movie is terribly unrealistic is if you're a colonel

508
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: in charge of Guantanamo Bay, you're not giving orders about

509
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: individual low level enlisted guys and who gets you know,

510
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 2: hit with the bar of soap in the sock or whatever.

511
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: You don't make that call. They're way too busy. They

512
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: barely even know. They couldn't name a one private in

513
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Speaker 2: a fire squad. If they're you know, their lives dependent

514
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: on it. That's gonna come from somebody at the sergeant level,

515
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: at the court, at the NCO level, or the staff

516
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: NCO level. So that movie gets that really wrong. And

517
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Speaker 2: have I seen hazing like that? Maybe not to that

518
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: extent where they fucking kill a guy, I know, but

519
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: have I seen hazing uh in the Marine Corps that

520
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: came from some kind of order about you know, from

521
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: some kind of corporal or sergeant or staff sergeant all

522
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: the fucking time, all the fucking time. It's it is.

523
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 2: It was routine. You know, you see just all kinds

524
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: of crazy shit in the field anyway. Uh. But the

525
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: second part of the question is do you think Colonel

526
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: Nathan Jessup that was Jack Nicholson.

527
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Speaker 1: I didn't get there yet. I needed your William, So.

528
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Speaker 2: I would I have done it? I mean I didn't.

529
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: Your people are not gonna believe me. I actually witnessed

530
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Speaker 2: a shipload. I don't think I ever really took part

531
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Speaker 2: in any hazing, but like, if I had been ordered

532
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: to do so, probably, Like did.

533
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: You see the show Oz, If they ordered you to

534
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Speaker 1: do some of that kind of stuff, would you have

535
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Speaker 1: done it?

536
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? But that isn't like, dude, like rules in prison

537
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: are different. Man, Like was like, you got a stab

538
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: a guy, We're just gonna stab you at the death.

539
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: In the shower. What do you like? What do you.

540
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, uh, okay the second part. Do you

541
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Speaker 1: think Colonel Nathan Jessup was correct in his you can't

542
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: handle the truth speech? That must be Jack Nicholson? Was

543
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: he correct to me saying that I.

544
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: Don't know anymore? I used to think that there was

545
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: some truth to it, But I grew up in the

546
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: military when you know, uh, gays could not openly serve

547
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: and women couldn't be in combat billets and all that

548
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: has changed. And you know, it's like that scene with

549
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: Bill Murray and Ghostbusters, BCE, dogs and cats living together

550
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: mass hysteria. You always thought if those rules were broken,

551
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: there would be mass hysteria, and there just wasn't. In

552
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 2: other words, there was sort of like these ugliness to

553
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: the way in which the military combat arms conducted themselves

554
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: that you thought was sort of like the secret ingredient

555
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: in the sauce. If you had asked me twenty years ago,

556
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Speaker 2: I absolutely would have told you yes, I'm now I'm

557
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Speaker 2: not so sure.

558
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Speaker 1: Okay, in light of what you just said, do you

559
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: think it's time that we remove the gender barriers on

560
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: public restrooms?

561
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: Well, they mostly have in the city here where I live.

562
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: They just have that. Well, here's the way to do this,

563
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: which no one ever talks about is possible. The best

564
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: way to do it is you have like if you

565
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: can make it, you have a series of individual rooms

566
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: that anybody can just use, rather than like grouping everyone

567
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: fifty to a room and then people all get weird

568
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: about who's doing what and who's not doing what. Rather

569
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: just make it like here, you got one stall, one

570
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: person at a time, and everything else is you know,

571
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: it's wide open, right, do it? Do it that way

572
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: and fucking be done with it. I tend to think

573
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: it's not a big deal.

574
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: Would you feel comfortable, like post chipolte one am just

575
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: tearing tearing, like peel and paint off the walls, Luke,

576
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: if there was like some respectable females in there, No,

577
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: you wouldn't, Luke, you.

578
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be see today. I forgot to take it dump

579
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: before doing deadlifts at the gym, and I consistently farted

580
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: every audibly. I consistently farted every time I tried to

581
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: get into the UH position before the poll. That's a

582
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: true story. I kept farting, And you know what, I'm

583
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: forty one. I'm like I don't even care anymore.

584
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know obviously know all right, please please continue.

585
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: Look, all right, BC thoughts on Dana White heavily encouraging

586
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: finishes and if this is fair, because there have been

587
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: recent cases where it has almost definitely affected fighters performances,

588
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: what do you think.

589
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: Like in theory, No, it's not fair because when I

590
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: say by encourage, I mean they encourage to the level

591
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: that you're financially motivated to get finishes. You get bonuses,

592
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: you get more opportunities if you're exciting. Now, look, you

593
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: can argue and say even without that, like let's say boxing,

594
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: where that's not there, Well, if you're a finisher, you

595
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: still some in some ways get advantages promotionally. Why because

596
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: people want to see But Dana White is obviously extreme

597
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: in a purposeful way in that regard. So in some

598
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: cases it's not fair because the goal in MMA is

599
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: to win the fight, to win the championship, and it's

600
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: any way possible even if you are a John Fitch

601
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: or a point fighter or whatever. Luke, but we've said

602
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 1: this before when this subject was brought up. I mean,

603
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: it's Dana White sandbox. You know, you know the rules

604
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: coming in like Leon Edwards might have to win twelve

605
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: in a row before it gets a title shot. He

606
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: knows that, we know that. That's what it is. That's

607
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: where it's at right now. Okay, two turntables, a microphone,

608
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: and the bald guy who makes the rules. So is

609
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: it unfair? Little But it's not like to the level

610
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: where you are completely handcuffed and your career cannot advance

611
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: and you whatever. I mean, Look, it's it's Look, there's

612
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: two games in the fight game, because it's entertainment at

613
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: the end of the day, right, it's not like high

614
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: school sports. So there's the there's the game where you

615
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: try to win them. There's the game where you can

616
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: get more money by being popular that you know. There's

617
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: critical and there's commercial. The two values in this game.

618
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: The commercial's up to you. If you fight and you

619
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: get finishes, you're more likely to get commercialized. So it's

620
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: part of the game anyway. Dana Way just exploits it

621
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: to a certain level to try to create a tone,

622
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: and it it works. Look, it's working. It's been working

623
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: for a while, okay.

624
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: Sort of. I mean, I'm not one of these guys

625
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: that is on board with this idea. That like, oh man,

626
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: they're firing everybody and then they're substituting them with Contender

627
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Series guys. And we all know the story about Contender Series,

628
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: like you can win thirty seconds with a knockout and

629
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: they'll sign you. And reality is that's not really a

630
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: great way to know who's going to be good and

631
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: who's not. But like you understand Dana White's position here,

632
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: the roster is swollen. They do need to make some cuts.

633
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: That's the first thing I'd say. Second part is there's

634
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 2: no regional mma at least very very little. They're going

635
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: to be overly reliant on that show and The Ultimate

636
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: Fighter as a way to recruit new fighters. Now that's

637
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: not this conversation is not totally about Contender Series. It's

638
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: also about just in general. You know, how they get

639
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: performance bonuses and who seems to get the rub and

640
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Yeah, I mean, listen, if you're so,

641
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: this is what I mean, Like, if you're a promoter,

642
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: what is it you think the promoter wants like? And

643
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: what is it you think that the promoter is going

644
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: to do? Like is Dana White breaking any laws by

645
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: structuring the business the way that he has. Now, you

646
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: can maybe make a case that down the line if this,

647
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: if this court case proceeds, that we'll discover that they have.

648
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: But to this point, as I speak to you, now,

649
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: has it been determined by any regulatory body, or any

650
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: court of law, or any other entity that could sort

651
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: of adjudicate these matters that they've broken any law. No, nothing,

652
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: They've broken no laws. So this is just going to

653
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: be the way that it is. To a degree, I

654
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: don't know how healthy it is for the sport to

655
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: fetishize it quite the way that he has, But I

656
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: also don't think it's the sky is falling either. To

657
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: be quite honest with you, we just had a pay

658
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: per view where Brian and I debated, you know, whether

659
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: or not the comin event was kind of fucking boring,

660
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: And that's like the best person in that weight class.

661
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: So in the end, there'll be a series of incentives

662
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: that guide behavior the promoter unless he changes the rules.

663
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: The promoter figuring out a way to incentivize finishes, I

664
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: don't think is necessarily all that big a deal.

665
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: So do you think this debate is akin to let's say,

666
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: if you own a business and you're hiring somebody to

667
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: work the door, secretary, cashier in the front, whatever. And

668
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: you may have somebody who's fantastic at their job, but

669
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: they look kind of gross and they stink and they're

670
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: rude to people, and you want somebody that better represents

671
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: your brand, so you hire the good looking, younger person

672
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: who's nicer to the people and makes them feel like

673
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: they want to come back.

674
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: This is the way the world works. You know who

675
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: likes pretty women? BC? Everybody everybody does. Why do you

676
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: think that they are in charge of the door at

677
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: the most expensive and you know, exclusive New York City clubs.

678
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: These are not clubs I care to get into. I

679
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: don't give a shit. But if you've ever been and

680
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: tried to get into a really nice club in Manhattan,

681
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: you've got a gorilla of a guy who's working security,

682
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: and the person who is inspecting everybody else is a woman,

683
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: and she's absolutely fucking ruthless, and she's probably an eight

684
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: or a nine out of ten on everybody's scale. This

685
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: is just the way that it goes. Is it fair? Fuck? No?

686
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: Is it right? Of course not. It is just the

687
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: way the world works. You want to make things easier

688
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 2: on yourself, higher attractive people to make those those goals

689
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: get to where you want it to go. And uh

690
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's you know, it fucking blows. But you

691
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, people can well, pretty people get

692
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: special treatment BC. Yeah you think you think that's.

693
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: True the UFC. The pretty people are the people that

694
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: bang and get knockouts, Luke, it is what it is.

695
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Okay to a point though even then though like even then,

696
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: that's not totally true, which is why the argument is

697
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: a little bit overstated. If you can win and you know,

698
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: on occasion, have a nice uh, I mean, look, Valentina

699
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Chevchenko has had almost twice as many decisions as she's

700
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: had finishes, and they revere her and promote her life.

701
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: She's the fucking terminator. It's just not true. You have

702
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: to always go out and do that. Now, do you

703
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: have to have the occasional Jessica I or Juliana Pana

704
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: moment in your career, Yeah, you probably should. You can't

705
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: just have nothing but John Fitch moments. But if you

706
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: can balance it out even a little bit and you

707
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: can win, dude, you can go pretty far with it.

708
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: It just helps if you're attractive or you have an

709
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: attractive fight style or you know, some of the thing

710
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: that you can hang your hat on.

711
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: Luke, if you had been in a coma for the

712
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: past ten years but still held the same level of

713
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: UFC and MMA fandom that you do when you re

714
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: emerge just in time for Saturday's pay per view last week,

715
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: and I told you, hey, look there's Jennifer Maya in

716
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: the main event. You're like, who's that? And I told

717
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: you she's either Damien Maya's daughter or wife. Which would

718
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: you have believed?

719
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: More? Wife? All right, BC, I'm not sure I have

720
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: to explain this one.

721
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: I think I have to read it to you, Luke.

722
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: I think that's how the rules work.

723
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh yes, sorry, go ahead.

724
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: So, Luke, this viewer is saying, thank you for the

725
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: rights in perpetuity answer about why is music dubbed fourteen

726
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: to twenty one.

727
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: Days post event?

728
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Can you just give me a refresher on what that means, Luke.

729
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: If you watch a pay per view live and you

730
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: hear everyone's walk out music like Kaitl Chukegan comes out

731
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: to DMX where the hood at? If you wait a

732
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: year or two or something, and then you go on

733
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: fight pass and you listen for her walk out. The

734
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: chances are you won't. You'll hear some other kind of

735
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: music that is sort of like, you know whatever UFC owns,

736
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: like their own in house music dubbed over it. And

737
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: the reason why is because you can buy the rights

738
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: for a certain amount of time. Uh, but they tend

739
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: to not buy them in perpetuity. Yeah.

740
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: And if you want to know the rest, hey bother

741
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: the rights?

742
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: How bizarre, right, Luke, you know what I'm saying. So, Luke,

743
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: why is UFC two seventeen, two twenty six, two twenty

744
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: nine subject to this rule but not two twenty seven

745
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: and two forty nine? And if everybody knows rights in perpetuity,

746
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: then why don't fighters walk out out to something that

747
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: does not fall subject to our ip Ah? That's interesting question,

748
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: I guess.

749
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't know the answer to why two

750
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: twenty seven and two forty nine is the way that

751
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: this person describes it. I honestly don't know. But the

752
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: question to answer the question about like why don't they

753
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: do it to something that's not that way? Well, for one,

754
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: they don't really have control over it. It's the UFC

755
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: as a broadcast entity that it has to purchase these rights,

756
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: so you have to find a way to work that

757
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: through UFC. Now you could say, well, what about just

758
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: using your own music? Rampage had his own rap song

759
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: for a time or something like that. Maybe that's the

760
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: way to work around to BC. But you know as

761
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: well as I do, when fighters come out to songs

762
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: that they had a rapper or you know, rocker friend

763
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: write for them, those songs tend to suck balls.

764
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Luke, What song in the UFC is most identified by

765
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: one fighter doesn't have to be your favorite song, the

766
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: best song.

767
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: What song is like?

768
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Where you hear the song, you think of that fighter instantly.

769
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: Uh, there's probably a couple one big kicking the door.

770
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: Who comes out to that?

771
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: Who you don't mare?

772
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: Uh Frankie Edgar, Yes, yes.

773
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: That one you're raining on the top with short like leprechauns.

774
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: That one. Uh So that's one I would say back

775
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: in the Fridays, the Rude Sandstorm one was big. Oh,

776
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: Matt Hughes country boy Can't Survive is big?

777
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: Yes, When when I hear that, uh, what's that chill

778
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: sun song?

779
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: It comes out?

780
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: That comes up?

781
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Some hunk talks dang wor entrance.

782
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: I love question at the beginning, it's like it's so

783
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: just catches you off guard that You're like, what, yeah,

784
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: what is that?

785
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: Dude? That ship? Like, you know, Chi, it's dude. It's

786
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: amazing that Chill will come out to that music because

787
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: he understood the business of promotion early in that era

788
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: in ways that and Stephen to this day, most of

789
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: his contemporaries never did. How did you not have an

790
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: iconic walkout song? How did you come not to some

791
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: song about a hawk tag and it's too too.

792
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: Much fun by Darryl Singletary, Yeah, yeah, too much fun?

793
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: What's that ship?

794
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean who who the fuck sings that? As like,

795
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: you know, an anthem and you can't even say, oh,

796
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: it's because you don't like country country boy cancer I

797
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: Hank Williams Junior. I mean, you know, it's exactly what

798
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: we're talking about. You can do it if the ship works,

799
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: if it doesn't, you know, you know, Ronda Rousey's you know,

800
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: bad reputation was pretty.

801
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Big, very iconic, and identified with just her. I'm not

802
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: good at this. I'm trying to think of famous fighters

803
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have no idea what their song is.

804
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: When Lesler came out to uh enter Sandman. That was

805
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: kind of big.

806
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: What was Ladell's you know?

807
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

808
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: He had a d m X song and so did.

809
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ladell with it? Yes, that was which song?

810
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: Was it? It was.

811
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: Come through run through that one?

812
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Right?

813
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. Have listened Have you ever listened

814
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: to where the hood At? The lyrics are insanely homophobic?

815
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean that's most of Yeah, that's all right, Yeah,

816
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: that's great. Look, let's let's roll on here.

817
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: You got the next all right?

818
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: All right?

819
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: VC. Have you guys ever watched the Comedy Store doc

820
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: doc like the documentary on Showtime? Also? Have you guys

821
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: ever been there?

822
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: I think no and no, But I do enjoy Showtime

823
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: docs outside of trying to pump it because they're the

824
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: label that pays me and I will check it out

825
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: right now. I'm into that doc series Luke real quick,

826
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin, you know the famous music Ruse reference him earlier.

827
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: He has the Shangrilat documentary series on Showtime which just

828
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: basically has like bands coming into his famous studio and

829
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: he works with them. It's just very interesting. Have not

830
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: seen the Comedy Store? How about yourself?

831
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: I have not seen this one, but I have seen it.

832
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: Came out, I want to say, two thousand and twoish,

833
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: So there was a documentary called Comedian and it followed

834
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: two comedians. It followed the return of Jerry Seinfeld after

835
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: the end of his show back to stand up and he,

836
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: you know, sort of working through the scene again and

837
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: she trying to you know, shake off the rust he

838
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: had a little bit there. And then this other comedian

839
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: who had sort of been in the trenches and was

840
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: trying to make a name, Ornie Adams, and that there

841
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: was a lot of scenes there that took place at

842
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: what's called the Comedy Seller in New York City. The

843
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: Comedy Seller is probably what the commedy. It's not the

844
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: one that does the biggest shows in New York b see,

845
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: but it's like all the comedians comedians know that that's

846
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: the place that you go to to really get at

847
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: least it was back in the aughts as like the

848
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: place that the best comedians in the city would go

849
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: to night after night. So I went there so often

850
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: that you would seemed like very very very famous comedians

851
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: pop in and they would bump everyone else in line

852
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: that night and just do a set so I saw

853
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle come in one time and do an hour

854
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: long set that was unrehearsed, unscheduled. I saw Seinfeld come in.

855
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: So I saw Seinfeld from me to this camera, he

856
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: came in. Chris Chris Rock came in and did a set.

857
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: I saw Patris O'Neil there, MILLI I saw patriso o'

858
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: neil nearly fistfight a heckler there. I mean, I have

859
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: David tell all those guys I saw come in and

860
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: do just phenomenal. Jim Norton was all the time there.

861
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: Nick Depollo, you know, that was just an unbelievable place.

862
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: So I have a lot of great memories of that.

863
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: It's probably pretty similar to because the because the Comedy

864
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: Store is the la version basically of the Comedy Seller

865
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: on the on the East Coast.

866
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: So the Comedy Store is the one with Mitzi. Yeah,

867
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: now Paulie Shore's mom.

868
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: I think I don't know it might be but uh,

869
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: but you know, it's a sort of an iconic West

870
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: Coast club like CBGB's or something.

871
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: But Brendan has played the student.

872
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: He's played there a million times. I think I'm.

873
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: Surery Slade bro I'm sure he slade afterwards backstage too,

874
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: shout out to Brendan show. All right, Luke, have you

875
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: ever seen the rat Catcher documentary on on Netflix?

876
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 2: No? What is that?

877
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: Is that?

878
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: The or?

879
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: No, the fox Catcher? Sorry, fox Catcher one?

880
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

881
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: What was that?

882
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: That dirtbag's name? The rich guy?

883
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: What was his name?

884
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: John DuPont?

885
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: Do you ever worry that while we laugh and have

886
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: fun with this, that Jay is very Dupontian and that

887
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a Schultz brother type exit from the show, Luke.

888
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: Well, John DuPont was at least successful for having money.

889
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: Aaron is not.

890
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: So he is.

891
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: A pretty nice car.

892
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: All right, I'll give me.

893
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: All right. Here's the thing, though, he took a fucking

894
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: beating in that documentary.

895
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm wondering if if we if we

896
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: should move off the farm right now? Okay, Kurt Engle,

897
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: By the way, Kurt Engel was smart. He got the

898
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: hell off of that farm.

899
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: All right?

900
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Hey, Luca, here's a question from the viewers.

901
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: When's the politics coming back? Watching these fools have breakdowns

902
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: in the live chat is a priceless experience. So what

903
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: they're asking you Luke is, why are you not interjecting

904
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: more politics into these shows con troll the audience.

905
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I mean, what always is so

906
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: funny about the live chat is whenever I talk about politics,

907
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: which is, you know, relative to the amount of talking

908
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: that happens per episode, it's not my call. I put

909
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: up the thread ahead of time. I mean, I could

910
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: always ignore the questions, that part is true, but if

911
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: I'm being faithful to the questions as they're laid out

912
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: before me and how the audience selected them, because remember

913
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: I set it up where you know it's ranked. It's

914
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: ranked essentially, so if you like it, it shoots to the top.

915
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: You know, if you get enough of them. It's like

916
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: y'all wrote the questions and y'all selected which ones you

917
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: thought deserved to be answered more than the other ones.

918
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: So whenever I hear like Peo complaints about it, I'm

919
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: always like, okay, then vote it, then downvote it. You know,

920
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? That's the first

921
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: part I'd say. The second part is, listen, I don't

922
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: ever expect people, when I'm done making any kind of

923
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: political point in the live chat to necessarily agree with me.

924
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: But I do think that inside of MMA there is

925
00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: a obscene amount of groupthink and not nearly enough diversity

926
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: of thought. Whether that's true about MMA itself, Like you

927
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: know how to fix judging, you know, I put out

928
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: this video, feel like there should be two judges, one

929
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: or two referees, one inside the cage and one outside.

930
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: And here's how the one outside should be empowered. I

931
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: had everyone and their brother telling me that was the

932
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: stupidest idea. The next week I got phone calls from

933
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: two different commissioners at major commissions telling me they love

934
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: the idea, you know what I mean. And then now

935
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: you've see Nevada. I don't know if they barred it

936
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: from me. I suspect that they didn't, but that this,

937
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: you know, breathing new life into things and taking taking

938
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 2: chances with ideas. Yeah, sometimes they're going to say probably

939
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: stupid things, but more often than not, you might at

940
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: least be onto something, or you might have an outright

941
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: great idea. But you know, diversifying the kind of thought

942
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: that takes place in MMA, I think is extremely important

943
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: because everyone kind of either wants to agree, agree with

944
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: each other, or not take too many steps outside of

945
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: an acceptable Overton window. As it relates to politics, I

946
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: think that's especially true. Everyone inside the sport is either

947
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: sort of tuned out to the kind of thing or

948
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: is decided the right wing. And I'm not here to

949
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: say that any of those positions are right and that

950
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: I've got it all figured out. Far from it. But

951
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: you're probably going to be better off in the end.

952
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: And this includes me as well. Hearing from people who

953
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't agree with, Hearing viewpoints that force you to

954
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: check the premises of your own that may challenge your own,

955
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: or that you hear it you just decide you know

956
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: it's wrong because it's something you really looked into. Fine,

957
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: but diversity of thought. I'm always told that the right

958
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: hates academia because there's not enough diversity of thought. Well,

959
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: here I am reversing the process and trying to do

960
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: the same thing on the other side, and there are,

961
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: by the way, to be clear, there's a lot of

962
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: people who are very receptive to it, even when they

963
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: write me and tell me they don't agree. Okay, fine,

964
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: you don't have to agree. But I think if you're

965
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: open to the idea that diversity of thought and matters

966
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: whether it's right or it's wrong, you know, having a

967
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: conniption fit about it tells me that what you're really

968
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: not interested in is diversity at all. You're just interested

969
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: in having your worldview repeated back to you in very

970
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: comforting ways. And that's into actually lazy and a little

971
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: bit pathetic.

972
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: All right, that was pretty deep.

973
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: So are you willing to understand then?

974
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: At least that George Bush's brother was on the board

975
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: of directors for the WTC Security Stafford.

976
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: Now I didn't we look into this and it was

977
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: like only like ten of all the time.

978
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: So you're saying there's a chance, Luke, all right, what

979
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: else we got here?

980
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: Luke? Sorry, last, but not least, b C. This one

981
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: goes to you, good sir, If you could bring they

982
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if our producer wrote this like a

983
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: three year old, but I'll have to translate it from

984
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: this gobbledygook pigeon English. If you could see do you

985
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: ever see how like reflexively shitty I am to people? Like? It? Does?

986
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: It does not take much effort? It does not take

987
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: much effort. Okay, back to it. If you could bring

988
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: to dinner any three combat sports figures, dead or alive,

989
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: who would they be could be coaches, fighters, famous cornermen,

990
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: just notable figures inside the strategy.

991
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 3: Let's really do this question the right way.

992
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: Are we thinking in terms of chemistry too, because if

993
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: I've got Ali and McGregor at the same table, that

994
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: could really, you know, I could really speed up the enjoying.

995
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: That's just fireworks for nothing. That what do you want

996
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 2: to waste it on them?

997
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: I Meanwhile, it looks like I already got it. I

998
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: had it already. It's Barman, It's Volkanovski and uh Kai

999
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Kata France. All right, it's fantastic, all right?

1000
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh uh?

1001
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you who? You could

1002
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: have the first draft pick off the board? Who do

1003
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: you take? Who you have in dinner?

1004
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, let's posit something. Are we assuming that

1005
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: they're going to be truthful? Or we just taking them

1006
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: as they am?

1007
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: Fighters are truthful.

1008
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: I've had situations in larger you know, media dinners where

1009
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: you get food and a couple of drinks and there's

1010
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: a famous fighters sitting across. They're truthful. Look, okay, especially

1011
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: when they're retired, they don't give a damn.

1012
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: So if they're gonna be if they're gonna be in

1013
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: in to the process of having a conversation. I mean,

1014
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: you gotta go Dana White, right, don't you?

1015
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: He would, you would, but he but he would commandeer

1016
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: and own the conversation because he's a Look, he's a

1017
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: professional spinster, right, he controls the narrative, Luke.

1018
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll just cut his mic like the Second Debate

1019
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: or like the oscars when you go onto the microphone,

1020
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: just sinks.

1021
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: He is entertaining.

1022
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: Though.

1023
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: When I worked at ESPN as an MMA editor, he

1024
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: came in a couple of times and we you know,

1025
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: we got to sit down with him for an hour,

1026
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: not in an interview, just in like let's talk how

1027
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: we could better, you know, promote those sport And I mean, look,

1028
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: he holds court. He's an interview. He's an interesting dude

1029
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: to Uh. I'm sure if we raise drinks to him, Luke,

1030
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: you may end up changing your opinion. You may go

1031
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: right at the end.

1032
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm the one inviting him, you.

1033
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: May you know, yeah you okay, okay, And it would

1034
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: be one right okay, Uh yeah. Look, that's a good call, Dan,

1035
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: Dana's Dana's there. That's a great call. I mean, should

1036
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: we shoot for the star. I mean, is there going

1037
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: to be a better person there than Mike Tyson to

1038
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: entertain you?

1039
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: Is there is there going to be a better person?

1040
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: No, it's pretty good. That's pretty good. Uh and then man,

1041
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: don't say Pearl Gonzales. I was thinking more cuss to motto.

1042
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: But okay, I mean another way you could go. Uh

1043
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: probably the same size.

1044
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, wow, wow, nobody nobody watches this deep end

1045
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: of the show. Yeah, I mean Michael Bisping would.

1046
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: Be great, right, yeah, he would be I mean only

1047
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: three is like you gotta have kind of a last

1048
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 2: supper deal where you just have a bunch of them.

1049
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: You want to hear Okay, here's what you want out

1050
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: of this, Okay, you want to hear great stories, right,

1051
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: you want to hear stuff you've never heard before.

1052
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: You want to John, Yeah, you want to do that.

1053
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: You want to be entertaining u Akira. Yeah, just let's

1054
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: just bring rock O.

1055
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's just.

1056
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: Can we just watching me?

1057
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look, can we go wrong here?

1058
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: Luke?

1059
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean help, okay, Mike Tyson, Dana, Wayne Connor McGregor.

1060
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: I'd be a fun that'd be a fun. Actually, Lorenzo

1061
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: Lorenzo would be a guy that I would like to

1062
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: over an extended period, right, eating some pasta maybe at

1063
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: the Red Rock Canyon casino that he owns, and just

1064
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: hearing the story. Yeah, that'd be pretty interesting, right, and like.

1065
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 2: Hearing friendly conversation with him at the Were you at

1066
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: the presser when the UFC announced that, you know, the

1067
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: whole n why and why legalization thing and had Governor

1068
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: Cuilmo there signing it in the whole nine yards? Do

1069
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: you remember that?

1070
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 3: I remember it. I was not there though, So I was.

1071
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: There and I had a conversation with Lorenzo in person

1072
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Speaker 2: after the fact. And you talk about him to be.

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Speaker 3: Do you taw gains and striations, Luke, Well.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. He is built like a brick shithouse.

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Speaker 2: But he is very short. He's older than Joe Rogan.

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Speaker 2: He's short. Uh he must be like five seven or something,

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Speaker 2: five to eight something like that. He's not tall.

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Speaker 3: Why would you?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you I don't caire that, but go ahead,

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Speaker 1: keep going.

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Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I mean, I put out a picture.

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Speaker 2: I mean next to me recently, everyone was like mar

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Speaker 2: freaking short. So Lorenzo is a good call. I might

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Speaker 2: sub out I might sub out Dana for Lorenzo keep

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Speaker 2: Mike Tyson? Would you bring Don King? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, No, he's a dirt bag.

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Speaker 1: The only problem with picking obvious ones like Dana Connor whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's like they're so overexposed as well. Right, it would

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Speaker 1: almost be cool to have somebody, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how far you want to go down

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Speaker 1: the list, but you know, uh, would it sucked to

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Speaker 1: have Joe Lewis or Jack Johnson or something like that,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: That would yeah, Jack Johnson exactly. You know what, Jeff

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Speaker 2: Blatnick might be a great one as well. Blatnick, Joe

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Speaker 2: San maybe yeah, just hey remember when you Akiba guy

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Speaker 2: in prison and went to prison for rape you the animal?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, Ninja Chop Judo Chop. Yeah, Okay, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Mostly I don't like talking to anybody, so it's a

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Speaker 2: hard question for me to answer. Becie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe i'd have Shop Papa and Rhonda. How

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Speaker 1: about that? That wouldn't be awkward at all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think we're done, right, We're done.

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Speaker 1: We're done, Luke.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this was fun. It was a holiday treat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, ye, I've got life things, important life things to do, Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: Do I We'll be see. Let's just remind everybody like

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Speaker 2: the video, hit that subscribe button and you know what,

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Speaker 2: on this Thanksgiving Friday, share this around or share the

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Speaker 2: documentary around and that fair. I think that's pretty fair, right, fair,

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Speaker 2: that's fair.

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Speaker 1: And past the stuffing the Scottie Pippen of the Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: me able Luke, well you have yeah you had stuffing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah you did, you did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I don't know. Yeah, we're still trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out what to cook. But by the time you

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Speaker 2: watch this, yes.

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Speaker 3: You'll have did already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Hey, happy Thanksgiving to your family. And thank

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Speaker 2: our MK family here who makes all this possible.

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Speaker 3: Thank you and Webscream two.

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Speaker 2: And web Scream two. All right, you want to take

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Speaker 2: us out?

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Speaker 1: Uh seriously, Well, you know, let's have fun, but we're

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Speaker 1: giving thanks I love all of you people. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: can't do weird docs without you actually enjoying it. And uh,

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Speaker 1: thank you for your patronage, thank you for buying the

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Speaker 1: merch and oh, by the way, uh there's still time

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Speaker 1: for Black Friday sale of the merch Okay, so go

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Speaker 1: on to uh store, dot show dot com. There's a

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Speaker 1: I know Luke doesn't check his email, but there's actually

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Speaker 1: a Black Friday deal.

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Speaker 2: They told us after the show on Monday. There actually

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Speaker 2: is a Black Friday deal. So check our Twitter feeds

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Speaker 2: today you'll see it.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, thank you to everybody. And that's it, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell, that's Luke Thomas. We are Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: So I've got two words for you.

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Speaker 2: We yeah,