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Speaker 2: Cowboys fourteen. Let's spend a lot of time on this.

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Speaker 2: So I felt for the first time John and I

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Speaker 2: wrote it down here. I really felt it. In that

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Speaker 2: nineteen play drive in the third quarter, I wrote down

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Speaker 2: Harmony I really thought it was the first time out

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Speaker 2: of the first drive that I thought Caleb and Ben

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Speaker 2: there was a certain harmony, like he wasn't rushing anything.

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Speaker 2: Caleb made a couple of big time throws. Captain in

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Speaker 2: the end zone, I think it was Dj Moore, but

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Speaker 2: I did now the Cowboys again, they won the field

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Speaker 2: position game. Chicago did Dallas ceedee. Lamb got hurt second quarter.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have a lot of offense in the second half.

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Speaker 2: And I know Dallas isn't very good defensively, but listen,

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Speaker 2: half the teams in this league aren't going to be

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Speaker 2: very good defensively going forward with injuries and personnel. I

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Speaker 2: thought there was improvement. I thought Caleb he dirted a

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Speaker 2: couple of easy balls, but I thought there was some

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Speaker 2: harmony with Ben. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the story of the game is

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson versus Eberflus, which would be like, you know,

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Speaker 3: a twenty year old playing a five year old and

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Speaker 2: It's not a fair fight.

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Speaker 3: I mean, ebra flu is probably I understand, like you said, injuries,

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Speaker 3: but I think ibra Flus is probably the worst defensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator going So I have a hard time listen. I

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Speaker 3: give Caleb credit. He made that That flea flicker is

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Speaker 3: one of the more beautiful throws you will see all

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Speaker 3: season long. It felt like it flew night. But I

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Speaker 3: don't put much emphasis on I mean, they score touchdowns

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Speaker 3: with guys wide open Command, wide open touchdown, DJ Moore,

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Speaker 3: wide open touchdown, and Rome I think the first touchdown

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Speaker 3: of the game. Yeah, was a gig just fell on

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Speaker 3: the ground, you know, So it's just I listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: not trying to be negative on this. A wins a win,

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Speaker 3: cool moment for Ben getting his first win. But I

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Speaker 3: truly believe that some guys in this league get recycled unfairly,

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Speaker 3: and Ebra flu is a good example. He is no

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Speaker 3: business being a defensive court. It's embarrassing. I mean, no one,

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Speaker 3: there's no one even around. So Caleb's hitting these guys.

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Speaker 3: There was a stretch early in the second quarter where

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Speaker 3: he missed a couple of balls over the middle. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: but then he calm down. I thought Ben Johnson, for

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Speaker 3: the first time this year, had a rhythm in his

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Speaker 3: play calling. It felt like it felt like Detroit. But

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Speaker 3: he's facing Iberflus. You know, you face Green Bay Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: The better defenses it's not like that. So I have

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Speaker 3: a hard time making a grand proclamation that Caleb's fixed

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Speaker 3: or anything. But you can only play who you're playing.

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Speaker 3: And they shredded any hit guys that were wide open.

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Speaker 3: More of a reflection to me on eber Flues than

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Speaker 3: it is Caleb is fixed.

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Speaker 2: But I you know, one thing watching the Bears I

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Speaker 2: felt is they they do have good offensive personnel. I

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Speaker 2: mean Jesus Luther Burden, Roma Dunze, DJ Moore, Cole Colston, Loveland.

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Speaker 2: Swift's a nice back. He's not a star, but he's

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Speaker 2: a nice back. If you give Caleb reasonable protection, which

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Speaker 2: he certainly had in the interior, they ran the ball

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Speaker 2: better today. Here's the one thing is if they become

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Speaker 2: like the twenty third best scoring team in the league,

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be on the personnel or ben

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Speaker 3: I would agree with you there. I think two things

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Speaker 3: personnel might be the worst in the league combination, and

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Speaker 3: the Bears are not as bad as they have looked

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Speaker 3: through two games. Offensive personnel standpoint, Listen, is Rome ever

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Speaker 3: and he's technically they drafted a guy to supplant him.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you there. I'm fascinated to watch listen sometimes,

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Speaker 3: especially with a young player, a young person, however.

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Speaker 2: You could get.

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Speaker 3: Confidence is important. So whether it's against the worst defense

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Speaker 3: in the league, who cares, right, So now it's can

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Speaker 3: you build on this? Who do they play next week?

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Speaker 3: The Raiders who aren't very good? I mean, so that

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Speaker 3: they can build on it, then yeah, then maybe there

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Speaker 3: is some life here. I just have a hard time

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Speaker 3: What fifteen to sixteen of the games that you're going

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Speaker 3: to play throughout the year, especially that division, which is

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Speaker 3: a good defensive division.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's once ceed Lamb got banged up. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you got Tolbert and Turpin and George Pickens and Javonte

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Speaker 1: But it is.

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Speaker 2: Listen, here's what you and I both felt coming into

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys season. This is a bad coaching staff. And

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Speaker 2: I thought today there was one point it was you know,

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Speaker 2: it was a fourteen fourteen game, but it was fourteen

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Speaker 2: three first after the first quarter, and was it fourteen fourteen?

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Speaker 2: Here do I make a mistake? Here? I was twenty

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Speaker 2: you know, they've got some pretty decent weapons. But one

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Speaker 2: of the things that was pretty clear is that Dak

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Speaker 2: was getting pretty good protection, but he couldn't. And so

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Speaker 2: once Ceedee Lamb was out of the game, he was

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Speaker 2: looking downfield. You'd see him multiple times, John Dak would

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Speaker 2: dump it off. Is that if you take Cedee Lamb out,

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Speaker 2: you can see the Cowboys have missed defensively and offensively.

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Speaker 2: They've missed on draft picks. They have a lot of

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Speaker 3: Well, well, let's take the two teams. You know, coaching staffs.

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Speaker 3: You know, Ben Johnson obviously is one of the better

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Speaker 3: Brady said Dennis Allen is one of the tougher defensive

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Speaker 3: coordinators he faced as a player. And I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's just thrown out there. We've seen him when he

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Speaker 3: he got the job when Sewn basically took the year off. Right,

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Speaker 3: So then you look, Brian Schottenheimer hires eebra Flus. Say

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Speaker 3: what you want about Mike McCarthy, his new two defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 3: The last couple, you know, stretch was Dan Quinn and

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Speaker 3: then Mike Zimmer, Right, I mean those are obviously Dan

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Speaker 3: Quinn is one of the better coaches in the league.

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Speaker 3: And Mike Zimmer's resume speaks for itself. So you go

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Speaker 3: from those two guys to ebra Flus. I can't get over.

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Speaker 3: I had a buddy one time, tell me he had

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Speaker 3: because he was a longtime quarterback coach and he became

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Speaker 3: in the league. And I say, I get the money,

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Speaker 3: but can't this derail your career? He's no, He's like, actually,

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Speaker 3: this changes my career because once you go, oh, that

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Speaker 3: you just get in that mix.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy, when he became the head coach of the

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Speaker 3: but he was viewed as like that was the next step.

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Speaker 3: And I think sometimes guys, you know eber Flus becomes

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Speaker 3: he's then just a coordinator. You see this with Brandon's

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Speaker 3: Well what if they're actually just position coaches, you know,

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Speaker 3: and they get in this cycle and you know, Ben

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Speaker 3: Johnson gets to play him and was running circles around

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Speaker 3: him today. I mean the Fleet Flicker is a good example.

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Speaker 3: Right out of the Fleet Flicker because the guy almost

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Speaker 3: got tackled. I'm like gonna say, and he hits up

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Speaker 3: These guys have no clue what they're doing. So listen

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Speaker 3: to the coaching in this league. It's when you get

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Speaker 3: good defensive coordinators, it really stands out. The Brian Flores,

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Speaker 3: it really stands out. And I think that was pretty

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Speaker 3: not trying to diminish Caleb Williams, but he was throwing

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Speaker 3: to do wide open guys, which is pretty unheard of.

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Speaker 3: It happens on a play, but it happened play after

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Speaker 1: I mean it was.

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Speaker 3: It was an un serious defensive performance.

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Speaker 2: All right. Rams at one point led twenty six to

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Speaker 2: My first, I have two major takes here. First of all,

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Speaker 2: the Rams didn't draft corner and that was one of

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Speaker 2: a bad quarterback class and cornerbacks they didn't and AJ

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Speaker 2: Devonte Smith and AJ Brown Rams and it wasn't like

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Speaker 2: they were beaten badly. It wasn't like they were poorly

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Speaker 2: coached like Dallas. They just don't have any playmakers in

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Speaker 2: the back end, and then twice kicks get blocked. They

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Speaker 2: didn't draft a center, another position of need on that

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Speaker 2: you know, Shelton who's been Shelton colebyan I think who's

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Speaker 2: been around forever, and a kid out of Arkansas. They

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Speaker 2: drafted six or seventh round and two top three times now.

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Speaker 2: Against Philadelphia last year, remember in the playoff game and

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Speaker 2: the Rams are driving and Jalen Carter blows up, the

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Speaker 2: final play blows up. They're like six seventh round center.

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Speaker 2: And then twice on field goals, it's a Jordan Davis

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Speaker 2: So they didn't address a lot of what they addressed

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Speaker 2: in the off season. You know, Devonte Adams has been

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Speaker 2: a good find. Landaman, the interior linebacker has been a

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Speaker 2: good get. But they didn't draft a corner and they

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Speaker 2: are below average at center. And if you play Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: I just thought, you know, it was a remarkable game.

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Speaker 2: In the first half, it was a coaching mismatch, like

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Speaker 2: McVeigh was doing whatever he wanted. But in the end,

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Speaker 2: The Eagles have a star in every unit, the rams

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Speaker 3: But Colin most teams don't have, you know, Deon Sanders,

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Speaker 2: It's amazing what happens in these games. This puka drops

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Speaker 2: They have really bad halves. It's not that rare for

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Speaker 2: Like he has. This team is uneven, but when their

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Speaker 3: I also think when you have, you know, a guy

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Speaker 3: They spend so much effort trying to corral him. Well,

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Speaker 3: they got Jalen Hurts, who at any moment they can

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Speaker 3: So like you said, yeah, he could be terrible, but

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Speaker 2: and didn't care, was the Jimmy Kimel situation, where listen,

430
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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's I think it's a bad precedent.

431
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Speaker 2: I don't care what somebody says, how offended you are.

432
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: Don't take comedians off the air. Don't. And by the way,

433
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 2: the left was doing it with comedians years ago. They

434
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 2: were getting called out for jokes, and now the right's

435
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Speaker 2: upset with Kimmel. But one of the things I thought

436
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Speaker 2: about was that in the end, Bob Iger, who I

437
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 2: know a little bit, Disney is huge globally. It is

438
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Speaker 2: massive in southern California, and Bob's going to retire. I

439
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: know where Hey lives in California. He loves it. And

440
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 2: my take was, he's surrounded he Disney is a company

441
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Speaker 2: full of artists. I mean, it really is. That's what

442
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Speaker 2: it is. The theme parks used to drive it. I'm

443
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Speaker 2: not sure the percentage of revenue, but you know, so

444
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: much of Disney now is movies and Hulu and all

445
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Speaker 2: this stuff. And my takeaway was, in the end, I

446
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Speaker 2: thought Bob Iger probably sat down and went and I

447
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: think Gavin knew some things. This way, this is my state.

448
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: I literally have the support of half the state, many

449
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: of which are artists, creatives. Screw next our it's local levy.

450
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like ninth on our wrung. And I

451
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Speaker 2: really wondered. I thought, like, if you're Gavin Newsom and

452
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Speaker 2: you're Bob Iger, and basically your support in the state

453
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: is overwhelmingly these creative industries, and you're like, well, Kimmel's

454
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Speaker 2: in a creative space. I don't care if the President

455
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Speaker 2: hates me. I wonder that was my take on it,

456
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Speaker 2: that everything in my life, every big decision comes down

457
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Speaker 2: to sex, power and money, nobody else. But you know

458
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Speaker 2: what I mean, Seriously, when when you're talking about big corporations,

459
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: it's I mean, it could be the White House, it

460
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: could be Main Street, it could be any Wall Street,

461
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Speaker 2: and that why do you think And if you don't

462
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Speaker 2: like this question, you can talk bears, but why do

463
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: you just saying no, you're just gonna put them back on?

464
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Speaker 2: You know, you said a lot there.

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Speaker 1: And I've got a lot of thoughts on this obviously,

466
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Speaker 1: so I can go aslong on this as you want to.

467
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Speaker 2: But this, this is the right thing to do. This.

468
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Speaker 1: This was a pretty clear cut freedom of speech issue,

469
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Speaker 1: and everyone from Ted Cruz and Ben Shapiro and George

470
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Clooney and Meryl Streep and Joe Rogan everybody came out

471
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Speaker 1: against this like this was a fairly cut and dried easy.

472
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Speaker 2: It was an easy one. And so I think that, yeah,

473
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Speaker 2: it was an easy one.

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Speaker 1: When you see that reaction to it, I don't know

475
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Speaker 1: how much credit I'm supposed to give you for like

476
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Speaker 1: ultimately doing the right thing because it was so universe,

477
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Speaker 1: it was so easy, So I don't think about that. Also, though,

478
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Speaker 1: to your point about Hollywood and like being comfortable where

479
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Speaker 1: you live, Kimmel is so popular in southern California among

480
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Speaker 1: the Hollywood elite, right, Like his green room when he

481
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Speaker 1: first started doing a show twenty years ago, was like

482
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Speaker 1: the Hollywood hangout. People call him, you know, the mayor

483
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Speaker 1: of Hollywood. He is as likely to hang out with

484
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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson as he is Jennifer Aniston. And then he

485
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: when he started, he dipped his toe into the water

486
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Speaker 1: with politics because of healthcare, because of what happened with

487
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Speaker 1: his young child, and you know, like that was his

488
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Speaker 1: He was not a John Stuart, John Oliver. Jimmy Kimmel

489
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Speaker 1: is the Man show, like Jimmy Kimmel's local radio. Jimmy

490
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Speaker 1: Kimmel is a prankster. Jimmy Kimmel was like likability guys, guy,

491
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Speaker 1: pull pranks, football picks and all that sort of thing.

492
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Speaker 2: He started dipping his toe in politics through healthcare.

493
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Speaker 1: And then I think he got it infatuated with it,

494
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Speaker 1: and the left started reaching out to him and he

495
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Speaker 1: started doing events and he, you know, speaking at Obama

496
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Speaker 1: functions and things like that.

497
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Speaker 2: But like Jimmy Kimmel in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: As I understand it has pretty like universal approval. His approval,

499
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Speaker 1: his approval. Everyone wants to hang with Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean because if you think about it,

501
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 2: Letterman always sort of poked Hollywood in the ribs. Madonna

502
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Speaker 2: share right, Ricky Gervais doesn't give a fly, and you

503
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: know what about Hollywood, He mocks them in front of them.

504
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: Cobert is the political guy, Fallon sort of a New

505
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: York music vibe. Carson was Debonair, Leno had the monologue.

506
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: Conan was quirky, and I always New York or you're

507
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: a late night host, you need it.

508
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Speaker 1: He was the mayor of Hollywood. He vacations with Jason

509
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Speaker 1: and Jennifer. You know, he that was his thing.

510
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Speaker 2: He created a vibe, and he created a hangout spot.

511
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Speaker 1: And so you know, I I thought that when the

512
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Speaker 1: four hundred actors and artists saw like signed that petition,

513
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Speaker 1: I thought that was like an obvious step that was

514
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Speaker 1: clearly coming. But I thought that if Disney and them,

515
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: if everyone like didn't kind of back down on this one,

516
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: I think that Kimmel was popular enough that it might

517
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Speaker 1: have gone further because you saw a few people like writers.

518
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Speaker 1: I think like a writer from Loss or something was like,

519
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to work for them again until they

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Speaker 1: do what's rank here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's where I feel Eiger feels that institutional pressure.

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Speaker 2: I mean a great example is for a brief time

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Speaker 2: in LA I moved to Brentwood, which is it's a

524
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Speaker 2: very much an industry town like Manhattan Beach is USC

525
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 2: grads playing volleyball, work hard, party hard right. Beverly Hills

526
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: is very international. I mean, West Hollywood is very much industry.

527
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Speaker 2: Brentwood is where the industry, the CEOs, the agents live

528
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Speaker 2: and so I moved there in a very beautiful area.

529
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Speaker 2: But my neighbors, one of my neighbors, like Lindsay Buckingham,

530
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Speaker 2: It was a lot of industry people you occasionally see,

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Speaker 2: you know, more Dustin Hoffman. I never saw him, but

532
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: apparently he had a house. You know, there's a game

533
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: show host down the street. That's what I didn't move

534
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: there for it. I moved it because in my when

535
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: I started the volume, a lot of people in the

536
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: company were in that area and I didn't want to

537
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Speaker 2: keep driving back and forth and driving back and forth.

538
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Speaker 2: And it's fine. But there was a restaurant there called Toscano,

539
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: and it was I went there all the time. They

540
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: had a great bar that you could just watch sports

541
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: really low key. Every time you walked in. It was

542
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Speaker 2: industry people and Iiger I went there probably thirty times.

543
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: He was there, six to seven of them Kardashians were there.

544
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: I mean, it was all these Hollywood people and like

545
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 2: industry people. And the truth is Bob was could not

546
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Speaker 2: get in and out of that restaurant. And he would

547
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: dress very casually, never a suit. I mean, it looked

548
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: like he just got done biking. He was legendarily beloved

549
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: and left the company, came back, and I do think

550
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: there is this point where you look at it and

551
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: you think time out. One of my affiliates, who are

552
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: my alliances with they're they're not, they're not. I mean,

553
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: and so when you see all the like Silicon Valley

554
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: guys go and into the White House, that's different. Those

555
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: those are massive global companies. You don't know where those

556
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: people are going to live. They probably got eight holes.

557
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 2: Iger always felt like an l a guy. I mean,

558
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: it's it's I thought he made an offer on one

559
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: of the sports team his family did he feels like,

560
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: I mean, so I just I guess my point being

561
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: is that like if I was Bob Iger and I

562
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Speaker 2: don't ye, I.

563
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't think your point you had to do that, that

564
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Speaker 1: is your shairman. I mean the stuff that he said

565
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: was just like I mean, i'mluckily stupid, and so yeah,

566
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was like a pretty open and shut

567
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: case because and you also said earlier you like the.

568
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Speaker 2: Left was doing it with jokes and going too.

569
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Speaker 1: Far, Like I don't I don't want to like false

570
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: equivalent those because like there's no question that sensitivities and

571
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: people like lashing out it media had a little too

572
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: extreme and people got a little too sensitive, and you

573
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: could like talk about cancel culture or whatever. But like

574
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: losing out on hosting the Oscars because you wouldn't apologize

575
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: for jokes is not like losing a gig is not

576
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: the same, Like because like an event wouldn't book you.

577
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: That's not the same as the head of the FCC

578
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: taking you off the air and the president like celebrating

579
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: your firing, right, Like that's that's not the same. That's

580
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: government overreach, and so I thought this one was just

581
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: like appalling to everybody, you know, like this was this

582
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: is like what happened to Howard Stern back in the nineties,

583
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: like this this was just like so they're just like, wait,

584
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna do what over what comment?

585
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: And like who's getting involved?

586
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: Like and I thought Kimbo what he said in his

587
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: monologue was hilarious and spot on, like he had great

588
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: ratings like talk about your all time backfire if you ever.

589
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: Had an especially strident position, and for a variety of reason,

590
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: perhaps in my opinion, it's a cultural change. You go

591
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: the opposite way, and I'm going to start with mine.

592
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: And I thought about this so for years I always

593
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: said Green Bay not having an owner was a negative,

594
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: that you need Stan Kronky on the tarmac with Sean

595
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: McVay on the phone and he's getting ready to fly

596
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: his Gulfstream from lax to Heathrow and literally McVeigh and

597
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: less need pin him down on Stafford and he goes, okay,

598
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: let's get him. You don't have to go through a board,

599
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: you don't have to gather people around like in Green Bay.

600
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Speaker 2: And you know, Mark Murphy had to answer to people,

601
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: and so for years I always thought, what a negative

602
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: for Green Bay. They don't they can't walk upstairs. I've

603
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: always said one of the strengths of Fox over ESPN.

604
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Speaker 2: ESPN's a massive company. It's like the Marriott chain.

605
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Speaker 1: You know.

606
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: Fox is like a boute hotel. If I really needed something,

607
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: I would walk upstairs. And I've done it maybe once

608
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: and just ask Eric Shanks, Eric, this sucks, you know,

609
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: can we do this? Or Eric, I'm not comfortable with this,

610
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: what do you think of it? And if he's there,

611
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: he would just say, oh, that's a good point. Let

612
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: me get it on the phone. And I don't do

613
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: it much. I've probably done it twice, or I've said, hey,

614
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: can we do this? This is one of them. Was like, well,

615
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: I won't even get into it. It was kind of a

616
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: thing for the staff. I wanted to do. But you

617
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: can get an answer and get it solved very quickly.

618
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: And I don't have a lot of you know, I

619
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: don't have to do it much. I think I've done

620
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: it twice in nine years. It was just something I'm like, God,

621
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: this feels weird. Let's not do this. You get an answer.

622
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: Packer's never had that. Then something happened and I really

623
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: noticed it over the last two to three years, and

624
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: I've talked to GMS about this, is that owners have

625
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: gotten more impulsive because they're not worth seven hundred million.

626
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: They're worth eleven billion, and so they have no problem

627
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: running a sixty eight million dollar check to get rid

628
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: of both coordinators and they head coach. They don't care.

629
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Speaker 2: And when they're around their buddies who are millionaire probably

630
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: not billionaires, they're giving them shit when they vacation with them,

631
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: like your coach is an idiot, This quarterback's abum. And

632
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: you know they it's a bit of a billionaire echo

633
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: chamber and they and they lean on the GM and

634
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: they lean on people and they just are crazier. And

635
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: so Green Bay, now I believe has a huge advantage

636
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: where they don't answer to any impulsive owner. They basically

637
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: have really smart president, really smart people in the front office.

638
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: They tend to be patient with quarterbacks. I do not

639
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: believe you can draft a first round quarterback and sit

640
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: him for three years twice. You can't do that in

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00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: any other city except Green Bay. The masters of the

642
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: most important position in the National Football League increasingly so

643
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: over the last fifteen years. So that's my sports take

644
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: where it's like there and I have pivoted to the

645
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: other side, and I think Green Bay's ability to have

646
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: multiple year patients is unpressed in this sport.

647
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: So the green Bay thing is a little sensitive for

648
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: me because my dad's whole side of the family are

649
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: cheesehead Packer fans, and I've had to deal with this

650
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: for my entire life.

651
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: And I always would say.

652
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, to my brother, my older brother is a

653
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Packer fan and my dad and you know, rest in

654
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: peace to both of them. But I would always say,

655
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: I was like, you guys don't know how the rest

656
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: of us live. Like you guys get going from Farv

657
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: to Rogers to Jordan Love, Like I remember when Rogers

658
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: got hurt and Brett Hunley had to play for like

659
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: six games.

660
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, it's like six games. Try sixteen years try.

661
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: In the eighties, yeah, yeah, yeah.

662
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: The game that Caleb Williams had against Dallas, a Bears

663
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: quarterback has not done that four touchdowns, zero picks, zero

664
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: stacks since Rex Grossman in two thousand and six, and

665
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: before that it was Eric Kramer in nineteen ninety five,

666
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: and then before Eric Kramer, it was zero times, like

667
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: the entirety of the list, and so like the fact

668
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: that like so and so, Packerstans don't understand how good

669
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: they have it. But allow me to just push back

670
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: a little bit.

671
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: Isn't it luck is?

672
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: It isn't?

673
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean?

674
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: Because our sample size there is two, right, Aaron Rodgers

675
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: and Jordan Love. And because FARV was like FARV was good,

676
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: they had FARV. They traded for FARV and then Aaron

677
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers falls in the draft, not supposed to be there.

678
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: They take him, they sit him, but he was you know,

679
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: number one, It was.

680
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: Him and Alex Smith.

681
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: Then that works, and then Rogers they think he's done,

682
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: they trade up and take Jordan Love. Then they get

683
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: rid of McCarthy. Lafleur comes in. All of a sudden,

684
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: Rogers is winning two more MVPs. Like the plan wasn't like,

685
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: let's sit Jordan Love for three years. The plan was,

686
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: we don't know how much longer Aaron Rodgers has and

687
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: then a new coach kind of injected some old man

688
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: life into him, and Jordan Love was sitting longer than

689
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: they initially thought when they drafted me. If they thought

690
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers was going to be an m VP,

691
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: they would have drafted T Higgins instead of drafting Jordan Love.

692
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: So like it's and by the way, it was multiple presidents,

693
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean back then with it was

694
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: Ron wolf Right, It's been multiple j Thompson and Ted thompsonyeh,

695
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: multiple presidents, multiple general general managers. I don't. I don't

696
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: just believe that, like inherently because they eat brought worst

697
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: and they have no owner and it's green and gold

698
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: that they have just like that, they just have this

699
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: ability that like if if Mark Murphy went and it's

700
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: a new president, now I forget the guy's name, but

701
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: if he became the president of the Jaguars, I don't

702
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: think that the next Jaguars quarterback would be Aaron Rodgers

703
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: level good.

704
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: Like I think they have gotten I think they've gotten

705
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: lucky twice and it can noise the hell out of me.

706
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: So here's where I'd pushed back. They are also arguably

707
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: the best drafting team period for twenty five years, and

708
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: I think I mean they literally have maybe in twenty

709
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: five years, had two bad offensive lines and they never

710
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: draft offensive lineman in the first round. Is that once

711
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: again their ability to draft middle rounds and just be

712
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: patient and not have a relentless angry media banging on them.

713
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: Their media is not even collegiate, it's almost high school nice.

714
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very supportive media. And so I

715
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: would buy into Luck if they didn't currently have the

716
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: best tight end wide receiver youth groups in the NFL.

717
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: And they don't do free agency, so they're missing a

718
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: leg from the barstool. And it's almost like there's so

719
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: many teachers that are actually millionaires, almost higher than almost

720
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: any profession outside of tech. And one of the reasons

721
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: they have to be is because teachers don't make a lot,

722
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: so they tend to pay off their homes, they buy

723
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 2: use cars. Green Bay similarly knows we don't get free agents.

724
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: We have to draft and development, we have to be patient.

725
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: We're not attractive to star mike linebackers and wide receivers

726
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: on average, So I think I would buy that. But

727
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: they draft so exceedingly well, and I think a lot

728
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: of it is you do in life what you have to.

729
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: If you have to save to retire early, you don't

730
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: buy a second car if you're rich. I mean, the

731
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: New York operations, they just fly through money because their

732
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: game day revenue is huge. And I mean I think,

733
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: I mean, like the Knicks, James Dolan, I'm firing the

734
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: most successful coach we've had in twenty years. You wouldn't

735
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: think of doing that in Green Bay, Like, it wouldn't

736
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: even be on the table, would it.

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00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they fired Mike McCarthy after he won a

738
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, right after he won it.

739
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: Obviously he struggled the last year and a half, two

740
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: years he struggled. Yeah, but but Mike.

741
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Tomlins hasn't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen, and

742
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: they've they've kept him there because, like the Steelers ownership group,

743
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: believes in continuity of coaches.

744
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: So listen, the Packers are a very well run organization.

745
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: So there's obviously an ounce of hater that is coming

746
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: out of me when we're talking about this, and Ry

747
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: Coast is very good.

748
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: It's just an ounce, just a smidge, feels like sixteen ounces.

749
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 2: It might be forty proof, it might be forty proof.

750
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: Can you pass me some of that whiskey?

751
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: By the way it looks at the delatio Ad policy,

752
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: by the name, is the new the new Mark Murphy,

753
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: the new Ted Thompson. I just I have a I

754
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: think that they are very well run, They are very

755
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: good at drafting. The Historically, you are one hundred percent correct,

756
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: have not been a free agent team. But it's also

757
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: not because part of it is because they don't they're

758
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: not attractive to free agents. But in the NFL, guys

759
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: normally go where the money is normally right, Reggie Reggie

760
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: White going to Green Bay was like a massive deal

761
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: on a number of levels because of race and religion

762
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: and location and all that. They also paid them a

763
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: boatload of money. I remember when Mario Williams went to Buffalo.

764
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, yeah, remember, oh my god, Buffalo got

765
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: a big free agent, and I was like, you got

766
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars anywhere, so green But Green Bay

767
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: has also talked about like a lot of like they

768
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: believe philosophically organizationally in building through the drafty.

769
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: They don't even really pursue big time free agents.

770
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Speaker 1: Like part of it, I'm sure is a geographic disadvantage,

771
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: but I think part of it is also just like

772
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: organizational philosophy. And they're very good and I think Jordan

773
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Love is just good enough to throw a back breaking

774
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: interception in the playoffs.

775
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Collar that's what I think. Wait, let's wrap it up

776
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: with your pivot a position you had and now, through

777
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: either cultural changes, information clarity, you have moved off it

778
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: any sport anything. Okay, Yeah, good question, good follow up.

779
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: You're gonna hold me to it. So I this. Maybe

780
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: this doesn't answer your question perfectly, but I think it's

781
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: a decent answer. I used to.

782
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: Want to fire coaches for bad game management decisions, messing

783
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: up timeouts, messing up you and Nick right, messing up

784
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth downs. It would drive me insane.

785
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: And I still don't like it, to be very very clear,

786
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: And I do think teams in general have gotten better

787
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: at it because they've brought you know, MIT nerds and

788
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: analytic departments in and like they've like streamlined their process.

789
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: But like I'm talking, like by the way, like I

790
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: can go back, like Mike McCarthy on the Packers when

791
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: they were in the NFC Championship game against Seattle in

792
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: like me ten or whatever. He's got Aaron Rodgers, Aaron

793
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers's MVP of the league, and he's given the ball

794
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: to Eddie Lacy inside the five yard line instead of

795
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: letting Aaron Rodgers try to throw and then he's settling

796
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: for short field goals. It was this is like before

797
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: the analytic, but even up the time you have Aaron Rodgers,

798
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: six is more than three go for touchdowns?

799
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

800
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: I used to want to like fire guys for that,

801
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: but then and like Andy Reid, it was a big

802
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: reason why I changed this. Like Andy Reid has struggled

803
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: at times. And remember I covered Andy Reid and the

804
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: Alex Smith era when he was coming off of the

805
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: Philadelphia era. I did not cover Andy Reid when he

806
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: had Superman as his quarterback. But Andy Reid would sometimes

807
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: do things be slow at the end of half, slept

808
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: the clock run punt from midfield, and I was like,

809
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: this is so dumb, but goddamn, that guy would win,

810
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: and he would win double digit games, and he would

811
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: get Alex Smith had the best year of his career

812
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: with him. And then you go back through and you

813
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: look at it and he was like, Okay, not only

814
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: did Alex Smith have the best year of his career

815
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid, but so did Kevin Cobb, Jeff Garcia, Mike.

816
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: Vick, Donovan mcnapp like yep. So the epiphany was like.

817
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: It's the part that drives guys like me and Nick

818
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: crazy because we are sitting on our couch watching an

819
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: HD with the clock and the time and the score,

820
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: and we can do that part. But the biggest part

821
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: of coaching is very clearly not that. The biggest part

822
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: of coaching is Monday through Saturday. The game plan that

823
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: how you game plan for the Broncos is different than

824
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: how you game plan for the Lions, and it's like

825
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: a week to week chess and that's what Andy Reid

826
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: is the best I've ever seen in my lifetime of

827
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: watching football, and so like that, it is a part

828
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: of coaching that still drives me crazy, and I will

829
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: still yell at my TV about it, but I will

830
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: unless you have like, no, like, I will never advocate

831
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: firing a good coach for something like that. You know,

832
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: like if Brian Callahan can't do it and he can't

833
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: coach well, then sure, just like add it to the

834
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: list of reasons right why he should be gone. But

835
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: it's not like the it's not as big of a

836
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: part of being a good coach as I originally thought

837
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: it was, because I think I gained like a more

838
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: global understanding of like what the job entails. I don't

839
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: know that I fully adequately answer your question, but it

840
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: is a position that I totally have changed on and

841
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: it's now more of like a nuisance than like a

842
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: foundational principle. But I also think as I go around here,

843
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: I also think teams have gotten way better at it.

844
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: Like Dan Campbell is at the forefront of it, but

845
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: like teams now all employee game theory people.

846
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

847
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: No, And.

848
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: I've talked to a lot of I probably say my

849
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: best sources in sports are NFL GMS, x GM's current

850
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: GMS guys that want to be gms. And they've always

851
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: said that a coach is a CEO. If you get

852
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: the schemes along with it, it's a total bonus. But

853
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: they've got to be a part psychologist. Bill Parcells was

854
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: brilliant at that. They've got to be an understanding of personnel.

855
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson was a master of that. They have to

856
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: be play designers. Sean Payton, Andy Reid Shanahan masters of that.

857
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: And that clock management is often you have a sense

858
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: that that's what you do during the week. You do

859
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: all these two minute drills and red zone drills, and

860
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: then you let the game develop and Phil Jackson used

861
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: to never call the first time out. I covered that

862
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: Blazer Laker series with the iconic Shack dunk. The Blazers

863
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: took ten point leads multiple times. Phil wanted his team

864
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: to figure out dilemmas. His theory was, I'm not going

865
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: to wit. I'm not calling the first time out. I

866
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: want you to figure it out because when that happens

867
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: again later in a game, we have a dynamic. We

868
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: have been through this, and so Phil was like, I

869
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: don't It's like being a parent. I'm not going to

870
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: solve all your issues. You need to solve some of

871
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: your issues. So a lot of this stuff, especially early

872
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 2: in the season, I want to see if cam Ward

873
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: can handle the clock. We're not going to the super Bowl.

874
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: What I have to find out is can I get

875
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: him from week three to week twelve to be a

876
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: better quarterback. I'm not solving all your issues. So I

877
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: was told that years ago by a guy, like what

878
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: he goes when people beat he goes. You don't know

879
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: the injuries. A lot of times you can't use certain

880
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: substitution patterns. You're like, why don't you go get this? Yeah,

881
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: you can't actually use it, but you didn't advertise it

882
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: to the other team that that tight end is hurt.

883
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: And he's like, there's matchups that are a problem. There's

884
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: sometimes a GM told me this once, he goes, you'll

885
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: go into certain weeks by November and you literally have

886
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: a guard that has got twelve to eighteen snaps in him,

887
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: and you're just try Kurt Shilling once told me when

888
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: he got old, he goes, I had twelve fastballs. You

889
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: can't use him in the first two winnings. You've got

890
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: to save them. You'll go in and have a right

891
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: guard and you're like, he's got about fifteen snaps, but

892
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: we need forty, and so you run to the other side.

893
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: You don't do as you know, pass protect against that matchup.

894
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: So it literally you know there's other things now the

895
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: backups get hurt and you're like, well, we don't have

896
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: another slot corner, so we're gonna have to play softer

897
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: coverage here because that's a physical receiver. So through the years,

898
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: I've learned there's a lot of stuff you just don't advertise.

899
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: But you go into games by November, you've got all

900
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: sorts of holes. You just can't let them know them.

901
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,880
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929
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Speaker 2: an addictive chemical. Lions beat the Ravens thirty eight to thirty.

930
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: It did not feel like it was thirty eight to thirty.

931
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: It felt like it was forty eight to twenty. Detroit

932
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: was seven sacks. Really, you watch Baltimore and it made

933
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: you just think less of Baltimore as a franchise, Like,

934
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't remember the last time Baltimore at home got

935
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: pushed around like that, especially by an NFC team, Just

936
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: completely pushed around, so demoralizing. I mean, if you take

937
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: away three or four incredible Lamar Jackson plays, He's an

938
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: insane talent. This game was never really competitive. I mean,

939
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: at one point, the Lions converted seven of ten third

940
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: and fourth downs. You know, I mean Lamar Jackson. Not

941
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: only did Detroit come in and take command early, but

942
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: then at halftime they got more dominant in the second half.

943
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: So that's just personnel. And you have to be careful

944
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: about first impressions because our first impression of Detroit with

945
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: new coordinators was the Hall of Fame game. They were awful.

946
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: Then the preseason you're like, oh, they're bad, and then

947
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: the opener at Green Bay and you're like, oh, Detroit,

948
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: this this isn't gonna work. They're gonna miss Ben Johnson.

949
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: But what they've done since then is they've really gotten

950
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: back to basics. With the game against the Bears and

951
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: the game against the Ravens, They're going to run the football,

952
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: they're gonna pound it. And once again, if you looked

953
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 2: at the rosters tonight, I mean, obviously Goff and Amaran

954
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: Saint Brown and Hutchinson the branch, those are great, great players,

955
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs. But one of the things Detroit has done

956
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: exceedingly well. You know, you when Sean McVay came to

957
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: the Rams, the coach turned around the franchise. You could

958
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: say Shanahan turned around the Niners, but he has a

959
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: losing record without McCaffrey. Really, Christian McCaffrey is the guy

960
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: that took Kyle Shanahan's ability to magically transform quarterbacks and

961
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 2: made it all work. I mean, McCaffrey really has taken

962
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: them that offense to a different level. When you look

963
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: at Detroit, it's their front office. I mean, these rosters.

964
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: I mean last year they're falling apart physically. They had

965
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: to go heavy into the interior line in this draft,

966
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: and they're starting a rookie on the offensive line. Baltimore

967
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: was a little dinged up on the d line, but

968
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 2: you just look at that roster man. They got good players.

969
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: I mean, they just have dudes all over that offense.

970
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: I mean, when you can have elite tackles in this sport,

971
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: you're one of four or five teams in this league

972
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: that have elite tackles at bow spots, and that's the Lions.

973
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: And they put on a clinic tonight. You know, I

974
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: take all these notes, and I was taking them in

975
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: the first half like it was going to be a

976
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: really close finish, but Detroit came in with it. I mean,

977
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: they had ninety eight and ninety six yard drives. Usually,

978
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: if you say you're going to go on the road,

979
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna face a really good franchise, a Pro Bowl quarterback,

980
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: and you're going to be pinned deep multiple times in

981
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: the game. That is really an omen for a tough

982
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: Monday night football game. Detroit had ninety eight ninety six

983
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: yard scoring drives. I mean it was crazy. And when

984
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: they went forward on fourth and two and gofits that

985
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: big pass to Omor on Saint Brown, of course they

986
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: went for it. That was an easy one. That just

987
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: that's part of their culture. I will say this for

988
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell. I thought he had a kind of a

989
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: goofy opening press conference. But I've told this story several times.

990
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: I was talking to a general manager in the league

991
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: who has hired a couple of coaches, and he said,

992
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: you're really hiring a CEO. If you can get a

993
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: great schematic coach like an Andy Reid or Kyle Shanahan,

994
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: that's a bonus. What you want as a leader of men,

995
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: what you want. You know, if a guy is too

996
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: much about schemes and not about leadership, it's not gonna work.

997
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: That's Mike McDaniel and Miami. It's great that Andy Reid

998
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: can do both, but you're hiring a leader of men

999
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: and that can build a culture. That's Vrabel, That's Dan Campbell,

1000
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: and he has been steadfast, like he has never wavered

1001
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: on this. They're going to go for it. They're going

1002
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: to be super aggressive, they're going to be super physical.

1003
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: They put on a clinic. I mean that that is

1004
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: the most impressive game an NFC team has played in

1005
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 2: Baltimore in five years, in almost the Lamar Jackson era.

1006
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: That was a dominating performance. Yeah, I mean third quarter,

1007
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: Lamar had that drive where he had three connections, two

1008
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: of TheMark Andrews great throw to Mark Andrews in the

1009
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: end zone, but then goff to Homer on Saint Brown answers,

1010
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 2: great throw and boom twenty one, twenty one. So every

1011
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: time Baltimore made something happen, the Ravens came right back.

1012
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: I want to look at a couple of these numbers.

1013
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: By the way, for the record, the Ravens are one

1014
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: and two for the second straight year. They're gonna be fine.

1015
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: But the way they got manhandled tonight, and you know

1016
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: it's funny. Everybody talked about Lamar Jackson being so good

1017
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: on Monday Night football because he was. What is interesting

1018
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: is how good Jared Goff has been in primetime. He's

1019
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: the opposite of Kirk Cousins. Jared Goff is eleven and

1020
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 2: one in primetime. And the first big primetime game I

1021
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: remember about Jared Goff as he faced Patrick Mahomes. I

1022
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: think it was going to be in Mexico City. It

1023
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: got postponed, it got moved. They played in the Coliseum

1024
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: pre Sofi obviously, and he outdueled Patrick Mahomes. And that's

1025
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: the first one I really remember. He was good, but

1026
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 2: you're like, wow, GoF gets on heaters and when he does,

1027
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: it's pretty special. I want to look at I want

1028
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: to look at right now. Here's the official stats. Detroit

1029
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: had four hundred and twenty seven yards six point six

1030
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 2: yards of play, twenty five first downs, perfect on fourth down,

1031
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: dominated time of possession. I mean to go on the

1032
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 2: road and have eight penalties and when it is something else,

1033
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean, now again, it wasn't like the Ravens weren't

1034
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: good on third down. They were six of eleven, but

1035
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: they allowed seven sacks and the Lions didn't allow any

1036
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: What a performance, And think about the team that has

1037
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: been so dominant the AFC for years, Kansas City. I mean,

1038
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: right now I'm thinking about my Super Bowl bubble. Do

1039
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: I put Detroit back in it? I mean again, Hall

1040
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: of Fame game, preseason opener against Green Bay. They just

1041
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 2: knew coordinators. They look awful. Johnny Morton tonight, I don't

1042
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: know if you'll call a better game. I mean it

1043
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: was just and you know sometimes coordinators, offensive coordinators say

1044
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: they want to run the ball, but they get too clever,

1045
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: they get too cute. Even Sean McVay sometimes can get

1046
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: a little bit cute. I mean Johnny Morton tonight, he

1047
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: just kept going back to the run. I mean, they

1048
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: didn't and it didn't. It didn't look like the Ben

1049
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: Johnson Lions. There was no cute. I mean anytime there

1050
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: was a question what they were going to do, I

1051
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: mean they did. They did have that double option on

1052
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: fourth and one. They had one, which I think they've

1053
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: run that about once a year the last several years.

1054
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: It feels like maybe more. I don't watch every snap

1055
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: for the Lions. That's just a great call. And if

1056
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: you run it twice a year, you know, it's hard

1057
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: to defend. Really clever and every time I remember Detroit

1058
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: running it, they've run it well. I think I've seen

1059
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: them running a couple different times. So but they didn't.

1060
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: They didn't outthink the room Detroit. It's like we're on

1061
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: the road. I mean, how fast did the first half go?

1062
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: Because of both teams were running, The first half.

1063
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: Just flew by.

1064
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: It was really good football. Like I love football. I

1065
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Speaker 2: like quick football. You can get me beginning to end

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Speaker 2: in three forty. That's good football. Sometimes these college games

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Speaker 2: go on forever because the team trails, they have to

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Speaker 2: throw to get back into it. They're not very good

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Speaker 2: at quarterback. The clockets stopping it's awful. God, that was

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Speaker 2: an incredible performance. If you're a Lions fan, you know

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Speaker 2: you look at this league on a macro level. As

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Speaker 2: I was saying about Kansas City, look at how Kansas

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Speaker 2: City is just struggling to get their offensive line right,

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Speaker 2: to get their running game right. You know what I

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Speaker 2: think we've seen and tonight is a stamp on it.

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Speaker 2: For about four years because the AFC gms did such

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Speaker 2: a good job to hit on quarterbacks Herbert Burrow, Lamar

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen. They just kept hitting one after another after night.

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Speaker 2: Even the ones that haven't lived up to the billing

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, you know, are still you know, better than average.

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Speaker 2: And so I felt like, Okay, the AFC hit on

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Speaker 2: these quarterbacks. Then they had to pay all of them,

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Speaker 2: and the rosters aren't as good. You're watching the Lions

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Speaker 2: roster tonight, the Packers, despite losing to Cleveland, great roster.

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia's roster is the best in football, Seattle's roster, they've

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Speaker 2: had back to back to back good drafts, the Rams

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Speaker 2: defensive roster. So what happened is the AFC for about

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Speaker 2: five years with all these great quarterbacks. You're like, wow,

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Speaker 2: there was a gap AFC NFC. Then you have to

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Speaker 2: pay all the quarterbacks in the AFC. Okay, now the

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Speaker 2: rosters aren't as good. I mean, Buffalo's back into their defense, eh,

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Speaker 2: I mean Ravens defense tonight, especially in the box. I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, they got pushed around. I mean, Kansas City's

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Speaker 2: defense is playing well, but their offense, the offensive line

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Speaker 2: run game. So now it feels like to me it

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Speaker 2: has swung back. I mean I'm thinking top of my

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Speaker 2: head of the teams in the top ten, Tampa's the

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Speaker 2: top ten team Seattle is San Francisco is, Philadelphia is

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Speaker 2: Green Bay is I think Detroit has to be. I

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Speaker 2: mean Kansas City's not. I don't know what you do

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Speaker 2: with Baltimore after tonight. They're gonna be fine. They started

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Speaker 2: one and two last year. They're gonna be fine. But

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Speaker 2: Denver hasn't been as good as we thought. Baltimore's off

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Speaker 2: to one, one and two start. Kansas City offensively is sputtering.

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Speaker 2: Feels like the NFC not saying that because I work

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Speaker 2: at Fox. It feels like the NFC has had this run.

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Speaker 2: And in the NFC you have really good quarterbacks on

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Speaker 2: reasonable deals. Sam Darnold brought pretty Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: is on a pretty team friendly deal. Dak isn't. But

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Speaker 2: a lot of the NFC quarterbacks who aren't considered superstars,

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Speaker 2: their stars are on better team friendly deals, like Darnald

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Speaker 2: and like Baker. Well that allow you'd have better rosters.

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Speaker 2: And my staff does such a great job. The NFC

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Speaker 2: is nine and two this season against the AFC, and boy,

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Speaker 2: tonight was an exclamation point. That was not just a win.

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Speaker 2: That was physical domination. I mean they that was bully ball.

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Speaker 2: That was pushing the Ravens around man Aiden Hutchison. They

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Speaker 2: kind of limited Lamar as a runner for the most part.

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Speaker 2: And I like Derrick Henry for the record, but since

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and this was an Adrian Peterson issue. Since

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, Derrick Henry tied for the most fumbles in

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Speaker 2: the league among the running backs. And I know that

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Speaker 2: it was a bad fumble deep in their own territory.

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Speaker 2: You know, feel like, oh, that really hurt the team.

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Speaker 2: That's not what the game was about. That's not what

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Speaker 2: the game was about. You gotta be honest if you're

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Speaker 2: a Ravens fan, this was not your night. Detroit roster

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Speaker 2: better than Baltimore roster. Detroit game plan better than Baltimore

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Speaker 2: game plan. So it's official. Lions went it thirty eight

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Speaker 2: to thirty. It didn't feel like it was thirty eight

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Speaker 2: to thirty. It did not feel like that

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Speaker 1: The volume