WEBVTT - Episode 454 w/ Linkin Park 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.120 He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast man. He's a legendary 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.439 queens rapper. He ain't sagreed as your boy in O 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:18.759 R E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.759 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up it's d 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:22.680 J E f N. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.680 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.840 you know what I mean and the most professional unprofessional 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.240 podcast and your number one source for drunk drink. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.920 Chans day is New year c Listen, It's time for 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:37.120 drink Champs. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:44.160 Drink up, motherfucker mother? Would it good? 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.680 Being? Is your boy in O R E? What up? 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.080 It is DJ E f N And. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.760 It's Midle Tippa crazy for all kick champs make up 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:55.600 right now? 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.000 When we talk about legends, were talking. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:02.840 About legendary groups, legendary things that happened legendary. These brothers 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.160 have transcended with rock and roll music. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:10.280 Scenes. 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:12.360 They are. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.160 To me, they are hip hop group. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.479 That turned rock. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:21.880 I feel like a lot of the roots are hip 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:22.959 hop because I'm not gonna lie. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.480 I can rhyme to every one of the beats like 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.480 I'm listening to it today. I'm like I had a 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.319 rhyme to every single song, Like I wrote a rhyme 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.880 to it. These brothers, you beat me. I was in 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.680 the back of the car like that, I said, rhyme 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.479 to every one of these fucking beats. Let's get straight 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.200 to it, because we ain't playing around. We are introducing 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:43.280 the honorable one. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.120 Only let you. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:50.600 And that's barkling Water because. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.280 That's that's the bad luck, you know. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:02:00.680 I mean, you guys on a sixty five fucking tour athletes. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.560 Fine city. I'm I was gonna say thank you for 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.560 bringing out the good Japanese with good Yeah. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.200 Thanks, right, that's right. So let's explain this tour that's 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.720 going on right now. What what cities are you going? 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.200 What cities are you excited to go to? 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.680 Well, the thing is, it's such a big tour for us, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.200 like we we we haven't done a tour with this 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.680 many days in more than ten years, maybe more than 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.079 fifteen usually told thirty days, correct, I mean for us, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.360 probably longer in a year, but this one is like 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.480 sixty five. It's quite a bit longer. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.919 And listen, is it worldwide? Because that's that's the thing. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:35.520 I know. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.880 I was joking with you guys off camera, but it's 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:47.480 something that I really do mean right, right, it's a 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:55.400 broader scale of the audience you guys have, right, So 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.760 what cities, what's what cities are you looking forward to? 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.400 Well, what do you think that? I mean, we know 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.919 the biggest ones, like the places where we have a 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:10.840 really crazy avid fan base, the ones you know, we 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.720 were German, Our German fan base is big. Are our 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.760 Chinese fan base is big Germany, lots of we do, 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.680 we go, we go to we go to Germany all 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.120 the time. Yeah, but you know, on each tour we 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.480 do real well in South South America. You said China, China, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.760 that's crazy China. Yeah, Like so on this run we're 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.320 not even hitting China. We've got quite a big fan 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:32.640 base and. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:37.360 Well we we. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.600 We we booked the dates before all that stuff happened. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:44.000 But yeah, we're not hitting China, we're not hitting Russia, 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.040 and we've got big fan bases in both those places. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.200 It's funny because actually the US is one of our 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.600 like comparatively, it's one of our smaller markets. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.920 Get from the beginning or has it evolved into that? 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:55.040 Uh? 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.520 Down? Yeah? Probably up and down. How about North Korea? 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.480 We haven't been uh no, we haven't been there yet. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:02.120 Ever been there? 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:07.160 I like him Jones. Like I'm just saying, like, he's 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:08.240 like a cool dude to me. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.680 See, like he's like, you know what I mean, he 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.320 liked basketball, he was out there with you know what 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:13.720 I'm saying. 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.000 He's a he's a he's a hair style influencer. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.000 Right, did you see the movie the interview? I didn't 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.400 see it. Oh you didn't see it the movie the interview. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.600 But they made fun of him. Yeah, like he put 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:25.360 a hit out on him. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:31.800 So you guys have been able to do something that 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.880 other hip hop acts I haven't been able to do. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:40.080 You guys collaborated full fledged with jay Z. Holy moly moly, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.279 how the hell? But by the way, by the way, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.960 he has to be one thing about jay that I know. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.760 I know him his whole career. He has to be 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.720 into it. To be into it. He will not do 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.600 something for money. It's not like that's not him. How 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.800 what happened when y'all got together? 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.919 What? What? What? What was it? He had to be 0:04:59.920 --> 0:05:03.760 a fan of you guys. Yeah, well, okay, so this 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.360 was after our second record, So first record came out. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.880 Tybrid theory was was by the end of the cycle. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.960 They told us it was the biggest record on the planet, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.720 and I was like, oh, I didn't it didn't register 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.279 what that meant. Like I was just thinking big is big, 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.440 like but like Britney Spears and whatever, like those kinds 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.240 of groups. Pop groups were big, they were probably bigger. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.280 And that our label and our manager was like, no, no, 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.039 your your record was bigger than those records. Wow, And 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:34.719 so good boy. It happened so fast that it didn't 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.880 we didn't wrap our heads around it. And then so 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.600 we were already going straight into the second record, did 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.000 a second record that did also really really well, and 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.800 then so that's where we were sitting in our career. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.039 And then Jay was just getting to the point where 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.600 he was he was probably a few years from that 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.280 moment where he retired what was it unplugged or something 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.640 like that. So what they did is the the mashup 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:03.480 was like a hot thing the moment Danger Mouse ray album, 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.960 and MTV realized that a lot of DJs were doing mashups, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:09.640 and so they went to Ja and they said, hey, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.240 we want to do a show that's like a mash 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.680 up show. Would you kick off the first episode since 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.440 you're the like you were the first mashup that somebody 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.960 did really that blew up, and they said who do 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.919 you want to do it with? He said yes, and 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.200 then they said who do you want to do with? 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.080 And he came back to them and said, Lincoln Park. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.560 That's crazy Jo and they told us so then they 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.839 His manager was John and Eely and and Jelly rowe 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.279 yeh yesterday yes. So John went to our manager and 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.320 he said, this is what they're thinking, and whatever do 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.400 you want to do it? And I the response Instead 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.600 of giving them a response, knowing that it would just 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.920 lead to like questions, I just made three mashups because 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.120 that's what I do like. So what they didn't know 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.480 is that's how I learned how to make music. That's 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.479 how I learned to make tracks. I didn't. I didn't 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.200 grow up like wrap making a track and rapping on it. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.600 I grew up before that, taking stuff that I liked 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.640 and mashing them up in order to learn how to 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.520 make a beat. So i'd like mash up. It'd be 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.880 like a break beat, a whole break beat off of 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.240 like a soul record, and then like Wu Tang Clan vocals, 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.120 and then like rage against the machine and smashing pumpkins, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.360 and then maybe some Jackson five thing like all these 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.880 fucked up things that didn't make any sense. But to 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.880 me it was just I was just vibingmixes. I was, yeah, 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.160 I was just like learning, And so that's how I 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.400 learned to make I did. I was, yeah, I was 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.679 doing it on this weird little sampler called a originally 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.040 called MS one. It was a role and piece of 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.440 shit and then eventually Aki S nine hundred and then 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.080 so yeah, it made those And that's how I learned 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.520 how to do it. And so when they called, when 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.440 they send us the message, it said Jay wants to 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.880 do mashups. I just made three mashups just as like 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.160 a proof of concept or whatever. I sent it to 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.080 them and Jay's response was oh shit, and he knew 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.440 immediately like yeah, we've got to do this is the 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.280 right thing to do. Oh yeah. There wasn't any conversation 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.440 that I was just like, what are they going to do? 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.280 The first thing I gonna say is like, well, how 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.280 should we go about I'm just I don't we don't 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.000 need to do how should we do this? Just the 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.440 music is either it's works or it doesn't work. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.360 No, But you know Sins walked this way right, Yes, 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.600 run DMC walked this way, you know, the rock and 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:15.600 hip hop thing. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.120 It was so perfect the Beastie Boys. Can't forget BC 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.080 boys doing it as well. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.400 I actually think it went back further, Like to me, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:28.840 the the things like like like led Zeppelin on their own, 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.000 Like I think if they had the power to sample 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:33.840 or they knew to collaborate with people, that they would 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.920 have done it. But they were just assimilating like soul 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.839 and R and B and older rock for sure, right, 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.200 and they were definitely they were making, they were making. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.800 They were putting that into this rock thing that they 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.800 did as a British rock group. Right. So to me, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.200 I listened to that and I heard hip hop because 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.240 I didn't know any better. It's like thirteen fourteen no. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.680 But for me, I'm listening to the EP and I'm like, 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:02.200 this doesn't sound forced at oh, it sounds like I'm 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.520 going out on the line there. Did you guys record 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.360 in the same studio as Jay? 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.960 Yeah? Originally not the original material like but his he 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.040 had so much music out before, okay, Right, like I 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.120 grew up, we grew up listening to like what records 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.679 do you remember? Sometimes we would talk about Jay Jay's records, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.880 like when you're just talking you're making songs, and you go, oh, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.760 you know it's Stipe. Is the balance on? Like can 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.400 I get a what like that? That balance is so cool? 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.040 Like I wish we had a song that had that 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.160 kind of groove, you know, and so you'd just be 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.920 thinking about that and that would kind of influence the drums. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.040 And then then we pulled from other things, like other 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.839 ideas we had. But that I think that sets up. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:42.840 When we did the mashups, it was like, oh, it's 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.040 already the hip hop element's already in there, like I 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.360 just got the origins of it. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.160 It's like a lot of times it just goes back 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.720 to these break beats that you know, Wow, they're just 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.320 part of the foundation of everything we're listening to. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:10:00.440 Now. Is that something? Because I kid do not to me. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.839 When I listen to you guys music, I can hear 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.160 the hip hop bass in there. I can hear it, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:10.920 But then I also also understand that it's a whole 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.040 other crowd, you know. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:12.439 What I mean. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.000 But like I said, like I'm sitting there like I 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.000 don't want to be an artist no more, but I 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.839 can't help myself and the whole time, I'm sitting there 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.720 and I'm like, I'm rhyming to your shit. So is 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:28.360 that something you have did consciously? Like, because anybody who 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:29.640 loves hip hop has. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.240 To love your music. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.400 I feel like it's I feel like sometimes may have 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.920 been intentional, but other times it's just like it's baked 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.400 into like what we like is what we like, Like 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.800 this is what I grew up on. And we were 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.160 talking earlier, like it's like before we got into making 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:50.400 rock music, I probably listened to like two to five 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.240 percent of the music I listened to was probably rock. Okay, 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.720 it's probably like ninety percent hip. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.680 Hop because you guys are like the hip hop heads 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.760 of the band. I wouldn't it seems like it, that's right. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:00.719 Do you think that you. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.040 Guys bring more of that perspective? And it's ever like 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.959 anybody will saying, nah, it's maybe is leaning too much 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:06.760 to hip hop. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.200 Or well, I think if you're alive today, it's like 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.760 hip Hop's is undeniable. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:12.640 It's everywhere, right. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.080 And I think for us it's just a matter of 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.920 over time, doing a lot of work and focusing on 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.720 you know, in our case, especially in the early days 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.480 hip hop and then it's just like oftentimes more than. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.560 That, you hit a wall, right, I want to do 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.280 this thing, I can't get it. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:33.000 And actually where there was some old tapes I was 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.040 watching of us making this record. We're talking about some 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.760 vocal stuff that Mike's doing and he's like, ah, like 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.600 I felt like I I just like kind of hit 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.800 a ceiling on what I can do at this moment. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.320 But then like magically, we just make the right track 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.200 a half year later and it's just automatically, it just flows. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.120 Did you ever have a verse where like you did 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.440 the verse on a beat and it sounded okay, but 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.839 then you didn't release it or whatever. Then later you've 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.640 heard a different beat and you did the same verse 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:03.560 on the new beat, and you're. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.480 Like, that's perfectly like what happens like that? 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.280 I have, you know, at this point in my career, 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.080 I got so many verses that are like almost they're 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.679 like maybe they're half baked but not quite done, but 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.640 they're close and they have a vibe, and then I 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.319 put them over the right track and it's it fits. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.679 So let's talk sex and drugs and rock and roll. Okay, 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.720 I love that. That's where you talking to the. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:43.079 Rock yes, because because rock and roll has a lot 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:43.520 of sex. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.400 I got over cocaine yesterday. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.520 It was crazy rock and roll. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:55.840 Yes, how is that? How is that such thing that exists? Sex, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.920 drugs and rock and roll? Absolutely industry in general. 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.240 My own answer, but what do you what would you say? 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:04.319 Look like you did a line before? 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:12.560 Actually no, not I haven't, but good Joe's in Miami, 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.959 now okay, yeah, go ahead. No, I feel I mean, yeah, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.840 I know you don't want to answer it. I feel 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.280 like no, I feel like it. 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.800 It's funny because it was really notable when we came out. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.480 One of the things people said about us all the 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:31.040 time was all these guys are so much less that. Wow, 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.080 Like the groups that were out before us were really 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:39.480 partying through the eighties and Motley Cruz in the eighties, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.280 huge like that's what they were all known. They were 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.520 biting bats and ship like that, but they were they 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.560 were out on sunset. I don't know if you ever. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.160 Spent much time in like probably like Hollywood, Holly. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:50.959 I've never really got it. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:55.560 So those guys they lived stories and they were just 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.720 constantly like back and forth between the club where they 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.600 played and the girls back to the place where they 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:00.440 stayed and they lived. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.959 It was all day. It was a culture at that point. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.120 So yeah, so that was their culture and I grew 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.559 when I grew up, it was the It was like that. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.280 It was. I was little when that was ending. So 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.960 I was reacting to like I was looking at you 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.680 were talking about run DMC boys, like that was the earliest. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.920 The first record I ever bought were those records. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:28.320 license to Ill, uh Hell Raisin Hell might have been. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.560 I might have bought another Runny MC record before that. Anyway, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.720 The point is that that was the beginning of me 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.520 listening to music, and so all the music I listened 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.600 to his hip hop and then those the kids at 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.320 my school at the time, everything was real separated if 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.000 you based on what music you listen to. So our 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.680 table we all listened to rap. Those dudes they all 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.080 listened to rock or metal or whatever. We had beef 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:54.280 with them, like we hated them. They fucking hated us. Yeah, 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.240 but that's how it was. Like we were growing up 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.720 in these like I was in you know, uh in 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.560 the in the San Fernano Valley, so like like it's 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.960 the joke is like that that school where ice Cube 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.760 goes to in in the movie. In the yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.520 it's it was basically he so So Cube and a 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.520 couple of other people, like it was known that that 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.119 he in particular went to uh school in my neighborhood. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.960 He so d was up in the valley where all 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.920 the white kids. But it actually wasn't all white kids. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.440 In the movie they show all white kids, but in 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.440 the reality it was there's a lot of Persians, a 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.880 lot of Jewish kids. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.000 But that's where that's where Cube played. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.280 So So in high school. High school. Yeah, so they 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.400 bust they bust all those kids up because they wanted 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.120 to get them out of the hood to get like 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.160 better teachers, better education, whatever, because they have more funding 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:43.800 up there. And so what happened is they all came 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.200 to our school and they all get got integrated. What 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.120 happened for me, for us was that he had already 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.880 graduated that point then. Yeah, but to say you went 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.480 to the high school with Cube, I know, I didn't. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:59.040 We didn't. What happened was all those kids were still 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.480 getting busted up and they were bringing their music. So 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.080 the kids from downtown who listened to Iced Tea, who 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.080 listen to n WA, listen to all that king t 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.760 all that stuff. They came up and they're like, check 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.520 this out, check this out. And that's how I got 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.400 all the music I grew up listening to us from them. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:18.480 M yeah, manakes noise? Do you have a story? 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.160 Short? No sex, but don't ask how the other thing 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.440 that by the time we got like since we were 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.560 the next generation after we were like people would say, like, 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.360 we're more about our business, Like we were trying to 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:34.760 be artists, get make interesting creative ship and handle our 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.640 business so that it stayed afloat, like so it didn't 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.640 fall apart because those dudes had already come out been 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.280 intoxicated whatever, and their business fell apart because the people 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:49.000 they handed it to like cheated them, Right. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:49.920 There's story to deal with. 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.280 The stories are like all their attorney cheated them, their 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.800 business manager cheated them, were the label whatever. So we 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.520 didn't want to be victims of that. So we were 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.560 always like, well, let's be like clear headed and smart 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:00.840 and we so we didn't party so much. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.760 From So, how did you guys come up with the 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.920 name Lincoln Park? Was you at Lincoln Park? 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.200 Oh? It was a park in Santa Monica, Uh huh 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.679 and uh Chester our singer. We were looking for a 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.240 new name. We were called Zero at the time. It 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:16.760 was x c r oh. That was our name, Man, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.000 that was your name, Zero Zero. That could have worked. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.520 And then our name was Hybrid Theory. And Chester was 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.919 a part of those early so Zero was with a 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.639 different singer, Michael friend Mark Uh and Mark became a 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.360 music manager. He man now manages a ton of great 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.080 rock artists, so he did. He ended up doing great. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.680 And then we got Chester and we had changed the 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.600 name of Hybrid Theory, and then that wasn't gonna work 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.119 for whatever reason. And then we were looking for a 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.320 new name. And Chester was sleeping in his car. He 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.520 was out from Arizona. He didn't have a place to 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.320 stay yet, and for some for whatever reason, he didn't 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.000 decide to stay with me. I asked, I think I 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.080 offered it to him, but he didn't do it, and 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.159 he stayed near Lincoln Park and he brought it in 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:58.880 one day. He was like, what about this name? Wow, 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.520 And we changed the spelling because at the time, every 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.280 like a dot com was powerful, like having your own 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.840 name dot com was to do. So we changed the 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.840 spelling to l I N K I N in order 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.159 to get that dot com park dot com rest in 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.520 peace to thank you. Yes, sorry, so we're gonna gonna 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.959 do quick time as fine going already. Yeah, give them 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.600 the flowers first, man. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.240 Show us about giving people today flowers, and we want 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.400 to give you y'all flowers face to face man and man, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.240 tell you how great your people are, what y'all did, 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.880 what y'all doing to the industry, and continue to move. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:31.160 Man. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.159 We really respect y'all and we really was honored that 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.240 you guys chose us to speak to the public. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:44.400 You want to give you so well, yeah, by the way, 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.680 this is this whiskey is gold fantastic. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.000 And we know y'all represent the whole band, but you know, 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:50.800 thank you for for coming would. 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.639 Be yes, yes, I mean you know it's thank you. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.440 So we're gonna do are we going to explain the game? Yeah? 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.680 So, well, you've got to get designated drinkers for you 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:00.640 guys me unless you're. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.000 Gonna know, I could probably do it. 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.760 Yeah, you want to designate a drinker. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:06.040 It's rare. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:16.320 Come on, yeah yeah yeah, birthday pull up? Make it? 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:17.240 What are you drinking? Right? 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:20.159 You gotta drink what you know? 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.160 He has to drink? He has to drink with you pick. Okay, 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.119 what do you want him to drink? He has no choice, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:26.960 He has no choice. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:36.200 Yeah yeah Japanese okay, cool, yeah, ready Jamie, Yeah, it's 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.439