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Speaker 2: When we talk about legends, were talking.
Speaker 4: About legendary groups, legendary things that happened legendary. These brothers
Speaker 4: have transcended with rock and roll music.
Speaker 2: Scenes.
Speaker 1: They are.
Speaker 2: To me, they are hip hop group.
Speaker 1: That turned rock.
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the roots are hip
Speaker 2: hop because I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: I can rhyme to every one of the beats like
Speaker 4: I'm listening to it today. I'm like I had a
Speaker 4: rhyme to every single song, Like I wrote a rhyme
Speaker 4: to it. These brothers, you beat me. I was in
Speaker 4: the back of the car like that, I said, rhyme
Speaker 4: to every one of these fucking beats. Let's get straight
Speaker 4: to it, because we ain't playing around. We are introducing
Speaker 4: the honorable one.
Speaker 1: Only let you.
Speaker 2: And that's barkling Water because.
Speaker 1: That's that's the bad luck, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys on a sixty five fucking tour athletes.
Speaker 1: Fine city. I'm I was gonna say thank you for
Speaker 1: bringing out the good Japanese with good Yeah.
Speaker 4: Thanks, right, that's right. So let's explain this tour that's
Speaker 4: going on right now. What what cities are you going?
Speaker 4: What cities are you excited to go to?
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, it's such a big tour for us,
Speaker 1: like we we we haven't done a tour with this
Speaker 1: many days in more than ten years, maybe more than
Speaker 1: fifteen usually told thirty days, correct, I mean for us,
Speaker 1: probably longer in a year, but this one is like
Speaker 1: sixty five. It's quite a bit longer.
Speaker 2: And listen, is it worldwide? Because that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: I was joking with you guys off camera, but it's
Speaker 4: something that I really do mean right, right, it's a
Speaker 4: broader scale of the audience you guys have, right, So
Speaker 4: what cities, what's what cities are you looking forward to?
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think that? I mean, we know
Speaker 1: the biggest ones, like the places where we have a
Speaker 1: really crazy avid fan base, the ones you know, we
Speaker 1: were German, Our German fan base is big. Are our
Speaker 1: Chinese fan base is big Germany, lots of we do,
Speaker 1: we go, we go to we go to Germany all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, but you know, on each tour we
Speaker 1: do real well in South South America. You said China, China,
Speaker 1: that's crazy China. Yeah, Like so on this run we're
Speaker 1: not even hitting China. We've got quite a big fan
Speaker 1: base and.
Speaker 2: Well we we.
Speaker 1: We we booked the dates before all that stuff happened.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're not hitting China, we're not hitting Russia,
Speaker 1: and we've got big fan bases in both those places.
Speaker 1: It's funny because actually the US is one of our
Speaker 1: like comparatively, it's one of our smaller markets.
Speaker 2: Get from the beginning or has it evolved into that?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Down? Yeah? Probably up and down. How about North Korea?
Speaker 1: We haven't been uh no, we haven't been there yet.
Speaker 1: Ever been there?
Speaker 4: I like him Jones. Like I'm just saying, like, he's
Speaker 4: like a cool dude to me.
Speaker 1: See, like he's like, you know what I mean, he
Speaker 1: liked basketball, he was out there with you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He's a he's a he's a hair style influencer.
Speaker 1: Right, did you see the movie the interview? I didn't
Speaker 1: see it. Oh you didn't see it the movie the interview.
Speaker 1: But they made fun of him. Yeah, like he put
Speaker 1: a hit out on him.
Speaker 4: So you guys have been able to do something that
Speaker 4: other hip hop acts I haven't been able to do.
Speaker 4: You guys collaborated full fledged with jay Z. Holy moly moly,
Speaker 4: how the hell? But by the way, by the way,
Speaker 4: he has to be one thing about jay that I know.
Speaker 4: I know him his whole career. He has to be
Speaker 4: into it. To be into it. He will not do
Speaker 4: something for money. It's not like that's not him. How
Speaker 4: what happened when y'all got together?
Speaker 1: What? What? What? What was it? He had to be
Speaker 1: a fan of you guys. Yeah, well, okay, so this
Speaker 1: was after our second record, So first record came out.
Speaker 1: Tybrid theory was was by the end of the cycle.
Speaker 1: They told us it was the biggest record on the planet,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I didn't it didn't register
Speaker 1: what that meant. Like I was just thinking big is big,
Speaker 1: like but like Britney Spears and whatever, like those kinds
Speaker 1: of groups. Pop groups were big, they were probably bigger.
Speaker 1: And that our label and our manager was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: your your record was bigger than those records. Wow, And
Speaker 1: so good boy. It happened so fast that it didn't
Speaker 1: we didn't wrap our heads around it. And then so
Speaker 1: we were already going straight into the second record, did
Speaker 1: a second record that did also really really well, and
Speaker 1: then so that's where we were sitting in our career.
Speaker 1: And then Jay was just getting to the point where
Speaker 1: he was he was probably a few years from that
Speaker 1: moment where he retired what was it unplugged or something
Speaker 1: like that. So what they did is the the mashup
Speaker 1: was like a hot thing the moment Danger Mouse ray album,
Speaker 1: and MTV realized that a lot of DJs were doing mashups,
Speaker 1: and so they went to Ja and they said, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to do a show that's like a mash
Speaker 1: up show. Would you kick off the first episode since
Speaker 1: you're the like you were the first mashup that somebody
Speaker 1: did really that blew up, and they said who do
Speaker 1: you want to do it with? He said yes, and
Speaker 1: then they said who do you want to do with?
Speaker 1: And he came back to them and said, Lincoln Park.
Speaker 1: That's crazy Jo and they told us so then they
Speaker 1: His manager was John and Eely and and Jelly rowe
Speaker 1: yeh yesterday yes. So John went to our manager and
Speaker 1: he said, this is what they're thinking, and whatever do
Speaker 1: you want to do it? And I the response Instead
Speaker 1: of giving them a response, knowing that it would just
Speaker 1: lead to like questions, I just made three mashups because
Speaker 1: that's what I do like. So what they didn't know
Speaker 1: is that's how I learned how to make music. That's
Speaker 1: how I learned to make tracks. I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: grow up like wrap making a track and rapping on it.
Speaker 1: I grew up before that, taking stuff that I liked
Speaker 1: and mashing them up in order to learn how to
Speaker 1: make a beat. So i'd like mash up. It'd be
Speaker 1: like a break beat, a whole break beat off of
Speaker 1: like a soul record, and then like Wu Tang Clan vocals,
Speaker 1: and then like rage against the machine and smashing pumpkins,
Speaker 1: and then maybe some Jackson five thing like all these
Speaker 1: fucked up things that didn't make any sense. But to
Speaker 1: me it was just I was just vibingmixes. I was, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just like learning, And so that's how I
Speaker 1: learned to make I did. I was, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: doing it on this weird little sampler called a originally
Speaker 1: called MS one. It was a role and piece of
Speaker 1: shit and then eventually Aki S nine hundred and then
Speaker 1: so yeah, it made those And that's how I learned
Speaker 1: how to do it. And so when they called, when
Speaker 1: they send us the message, it said Jay wants to
Speaker 1: do mashups. I just made three mashups just as like
Speaker 1: a proof of concept or whatever. I sent it to
Speaker 1: them and Jay's response was oh shit, and he knew
Speaker 1: immediately like yeah, we've got to do this is the
Speaker 1: right thing to do. Oh yeah. There wasn't any conversation
Speaker 1: that I was just like, what are they going to do?
Speaker 1: The first thing I gonna say is like, well, how
Speaker 1: should we go about I'm just I don't we don't
Speaker 1: need to do how should we do this? Just the
Speaker 1: music is either it's works or it doesn't work.
Speaker 4: No, But you know Sins walked this way right, Yes,
Speaker 4: run DMC walked this way, you know, the rock and
Speaker 4: hip hop thing.
Speaker 5: It was so perfect the Beastie Boys. Can't forget BC
Speaker 5: boys doing it as well.
Speaker 1: I actually think it went back further, Like to me,
Speaker 1: the the things like like like led Zeppelin on their own,
Speaker 1: Like I think if they had the power to sample
Speaker 1: or they knew to collaborate with people, that they would
Speaker 1: have done it. But they were just assimilating like soul
Speaker 1: and R and B and older rock for sure, right,
Speaker 1: and they were definitely they were making, they were making.
Speaker 1: They were putting that into this rock thing that they
Speaker 1: did as a British rock group. Right. So to me,
Speaker 1: I listened to that and I heard hip hop because
Speaker 1: I didn't know any better. It's like thirteen fourteen no.
Speaker 4: But for me, I'm listening to the EP and I'm like,
Speaker 4: this doesn't sound forced at oh, it sounds like I'm
Speaker 4: going out on the line there. Did you guys record
Speaker 4: in the same studio as Jay?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Originally not the original material like but his he
Speaker 1: had so much music out before, okay, Right, like I
Speaker 1: grew up, we grew up listening to like what records
Speaker 1: do you remember? Sometimes we would talk about Jay Jay's records,
Speaker 1: like when you're just talking you're making songs, and you go, oh,
Speaker 1: you know it's Stipe. Is the balance on? Like can
Speaker 1: I get a what like that? That balance is so cool?
Speaker 1: Like I wish we had a song that had that
Speaker 1: kind of groove, you know, and so you'd just be
Speaker 1: thinking about that and that would kind of influence the drums.
Speaker 1: And then then we pulled from other things, like other
Speaker 1: ideas we had. But that I think that sets up.
Speaker 1: When we did the mashups, it was like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: already the hip hop element's already in there, like I
Speaker 1: just got the origins of it.
Speaker 7: It's like a lot of times it just goes back
Speaker 7: to these break beats that you know, Wow, they're just
Speaker 7: part of the foundation of everything we're listening to.
Speaker 1: Now. Is that something? Because I kid do not to me.
Speaker 4: When I listen to you guys music, I can hear
Speaker 4: the hip hop bass in there. I can hear it,
Speaker 4: But then I also also understand that it's a whole
Speaker 4: other crowd, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 4: But like I said, like I'm sitting there like I
Speaker 4: don't want to be an artist no more, but I
Speaker 4: can't help myself and the whole time, I'm sitting there
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm rhyming to your shit. So is
Speaker 4: that something you have did consciously? Like, because anybody who
Speaker 4: loves hip hop has.
Speaker 2: To love your music.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's I feel like sometimes may have
Speaker 1: been intentional, but other times it's just like it's baked
Speaker 1: into like what we like is what we like, Like
Speaker 1: this is what I grew up on. And we were
Speaker 1: talking earlier, like it's like before we got into making
Speaker 1: rock music, I probably listened to like two to five
Speaker 1: percent of the music I listened to was probably rock. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's probably like ninety percent hip.
Speaker 5: Hop because you guys are like the hip hop heads
Speaker 5: of the band. I wouldn't it seems like it, that's right.
Speaker 2: Do you think that you.
Speaker 5: Guys bring more of that perspective? And it's ever like
Speaker 5: anybody will saying, nah, it's maybe is leaning too much
Speaker 5: to hip hop.
Speaker 7: Or well, I think if you're alive today, it's like
Speaker 7: hip Hop's is undeniable.
Speaker 1: It's everywhere, right.
Speaker 7: And I think for us it's just a matter of
Speaker 7: over time, doing a lot of work and focusing on
Speaker 7: you know, in our case, especially in the early days
Speaker 7: hip hop and then it's just like oftentimes more than.
Speaker 1: That, you hit a wall, right, I want to do
Speaker 1: this thing, I can't get it.
Speaker 7: And actually where there was some old tapes I was
Speaker 7: watching of us making this record. We're talking about some
Speaker 7: vocal stuff that Mike's doing and he's like, ah, like
Speaker 7: I felt like I I just like kind of hit
Speaker 7: a ceiling on what I can do at this moment.
Speaker 7: But then like magically, we just make the right track
Speaker 7: a half year later and it's just automatically, it just flows.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a verse where like you did
Speaker 1: the verse on a beat and it sounded okay, but
Speaker 1: then you didn't release it or whatever. Then later you've
Speaker 1: heard a different beat and you did the same verse
Speaker 1: on the new beat, and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, that's perfectly like what happens like that?
Speaker 1: I have, you know, at this point in my career,
Speaker 1: I got so many verses that are like almost they're
Speaker 1: like maybe they're half baked but not quite done, but
Speaker 1: they're close and they have a vibe, and then I
Speaker 1: put them over the right track and it's it fits.
Speaker 1: So let's talk sex and drugs and rock and roll. Okay,
Speaker 1: I love that. That's where you talking to the.
Speaker 3: Rock yes, because because rock and roll has a lot
Speaker 3: of sex.
Speaker 1: I got over cocaine yesterday.
Speaker 2: It was crazy rock and roll.
Speaker 4: Yes, how is that? How is that such thing that exists? Sex,
Speaker 4: drugs and rock and roll? Absolutely industry in general.
Speaker 1: My own answer, but what do you what would you say?
Speaker 1: Look like you did a line before?
Speaker 7: Actually no, not I haven't, but good Joe's in Miami,
Speaker 7: now okay, yeah, go ahead. No, I feel I mean, yeah,
Speaker 7: I know you don't want to answer it. I feel
Speaker 7: like no, I feel like it.
Speaker 1: It's funny because it was really notable when we came out.
Speaker 1: One of the things people said about us all the
Speaker 1: time was all these guys are so much less that. Wow,
Speaker 1: Like the groups that were out before us were really
Speaker 1: partying through the eighties and Motley Cruz in the eighties,
Speaker 1: huge like that's what they were all known. They were
Speaker 1: biting bats and ship like that, but they were they
Speaker 1: were out on sunset. I don't know if you ever.
Speaker 6: Spent much time in like probably like Hollywood, Holly.
Speaker 2: I've never really got it.
Speaker 1: So those guys they lived stories and they were just
Speaker 1: constantly like back and forth between the club where they
Speaker 1: played and the girls back to the place where they
Speaker 1: stayed and they lived.
Speaker 2: It was all day. It was a culture at that point.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that was their culture and I grew
Speaker 1: when I grew up, it was the It was like that.
Speaker 1: It was. I was little when that was ending. So
Speaker 1: I was reacting to like I was looking at you
Speaker 1: were talking about run DMC boys, like that was the earliest.
Speaker 1: The first record I ever bought were those records. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: license to Ill, uh Hell Raisin Hell might have been.
Speaker 1: I might have bought another Runny MC record before that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: The point is that that was the beginning of me
Speaker 1: listening to music, and so all the music I listened
Speaker 1: to his hip hop and then those the kids at
Speaker 1: my school at the time, everything was real separated if
Speaker 1: you based on what music you listen to. So our
Speaker 1: table we all listened to rap. Those dudes they all
Speaker 1: listened to rock or metal or whatever. We had beef
Speaker 1: with them, like we hated them. They fucking hated us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's how it was. Like we were growing up
Speaker 1: in these like I was in you know, uh in
Speaker 1: the in the San Fernano Valley, so like like it's
Speaker 1: the joke is like that that school where ice Cube
Speaker 1: goes to in in the movie. In the yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it was basically he so So Cube and a
Speaker 1: couple of other people, like it was known that that
Speaker 1: he in particular went to uh school in my neighborhood.
Speaker 1: He so d was up in the valley where all
Speaker 1: the white kids. But it actually wasn't all white kids.
Speaker 1: In the movie they show all white kids, but in
Speaker 1: the reality it was there's a lot of Persians, a
Speaker 1: lot of Jewish kids.
Speaker 2: But that's where that's where Cube played.
Speaker 1: So So in high school. High school. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: bust they bust all those kids up because they wanted
Speaker 1: to get them out of the hood to get like
Speaker 1: better teachers, better education, whatever, because they have more funding
Speaker 1: up there. And so what happened is they all came
Speaker 1: to our school and they all get got integrated. What
Speaker 1: happened for me, for us was that he had already
Speaker 1: graduated that point then. Yeah, but to say you went
Speaker 1: to the high school with Cube, I know, I didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't. What happened was all those kids were still
Speaker 1: getting busted up and they were bringing their music. So
Speaker 1: the kids from downtown who listened to Iced Tea, who
Speaker 1: listen to n WA, listen to all that king t
Speaker 1: all that stuff. They came up and they're like, check
Speaker 1: this out, check this out. And that's how I got
Speaker 1: all the music I grew up listening to us from them.
Speaker 2: M yeah, manakes noise? Do you have a story?
Speaker 1: Short? No sex, but don't ask how the other thing
Speaker 1: that by the time we got like since we were
Speaker 1: the next generation after we were like people would say, like,
Speaker 1: we're more about our business, Like we were trying to
Speaker 1: be artists, get make interesting creative ship and handle our
Speaker 1: business so that it stayed afloat, like so it didn't
Speaker 1: fall apart because those dudes had already come out been
Speaker 1: intoxicated whatever, and their business fell apart because the people
Speaker 1: they handed it to like cheated them, Right.
Speaker 2: There's story to deal with.
Speaker 1: The stories are like all their attorney cheated them, their
Speaker 1: business manager cheated them, were the label whatever. So we
Speaker 1: didn't want to be victims of that. So we were
Speaker 1: always like, well, let's be like clear headed and smart
Speaker 1: and we so we didn't party so much.
Speaker 5: From So, how did you guys come up with the
Speaker 5: name Lincoln Park? Was you at Lincoln Park?
Speaker 1: Oh? It was a park in Santa Monica, Uh huh
Speaker 1: and uh Chester our singer. We were looking for a
Speaker 1: new name. We were called Zero at the time. It
Speaker 1: was x c r oh. That was our name, Man,
Speaker 1: that was your name, Zero Zero. That could have worked.
Speaker 1: And then our name was Hybrid Theory. And Chester was
Speaker 1: a part of those early so Zero was with a
Speaker 1: different singer, Michael friend Mark Uh and Mark became a
Speaker 1: music manager. He man now manages a ton of great
Speaker 1: rock artists, so he did. He ended up doing great.
Speaker 1: And then we got Chester and we had changed the
Speaker 1: name of Hybrid Theory, and then that wasn't gonna work
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. And then we were looking for a
Speaker 1: new name. And Chester was sleeping in his car. He
Speaker 1: was out from Arizona. He didn't have a place to
Speaker 1: stay yet, and for some for whatever reason, he didn't
Speaker 1: decide to stay with me. I asked, I think I
Speaker 1: offered it to him, but he didn't do it, and
Speaker 1: he stayed near Lincoln Park and he brought it in
Speaker 1: one day. He was like, what about this name? Wow,
Speaker 1: And we changed the spelling because at the time, every
Speaker 1: like a dot com was powerful, like having your own
Speaker 1: name dot com was to do. So we changed the
Speaker 1: spelling to l I N K I N in order
Speaker 1: to get that dot com park dot com rest in
Speaker 1: peace to thank you. Yes, sorry, so we're gonna gonna
Speaker 1: do quick time as fine going already. Yeah, give them
Speaker 1: the flowers first, man.
Speaker 4: Show us about giving people today flowers, and we want
Speaker 4: to give you y'all flowers face to face man and man,
Speaker 4: tell you how great your people are, what y'all did,
Speaker 4: what y'all doing to the industry, and continue to move.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: We really respect y'all and we really was honored that
Speaker 4: you guys chose us to speak to the public.
Speaker 1: You want to give you so well, yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: this is this whiskey is gold fantastic.
Speaker 5: And we know y'all represent the whole band, but you know,
Speaker 5: thank you for for coming would.
Speaker 1: Be yes, yes, I mean you know it's thank you.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna do are we going to explain the game? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So, well, you've got to get designated drinkers for you
Speaker 5: guys me unless you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna know, I could probably do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to designate a drinker.
Speaker 1: It's rare.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah yeah yeah, birthday pull up? Make it?
Speaker 1: What are you drinking? Right?
Speaker 2: You gotta drink what you know?
Speaker 1: He has to drink? He has to drink with you pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you want him to drink? He has no choice,
Speaker 1: He has no choice.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah Japanese okay, cool, yeah, ready Jamie, Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: not like Okay, explain the rule.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, you could have chosen something that'd be painful.
Speaker 2: No, enjoyed his birthday.
Speaker 1: That's what I would pick for myself.
Speaker 5: So this is our drinking game. We're gonna give you
Speaker 5: two choices. You pick one, we don't drink. If you
Speaker 5: say both are neither, which is the politically correct answer,
Speaker 5: then we all drink.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: And it's really just to bring up names and stories.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this also is Yeah, we're going
Speaker 1: to be bad at this. I think you're gonna be
Speaker 1: very brilliantly, very glit good story. Decided to be a
Speaker 1: little little politically correct.
Speaker 5: It's all my best to not be Okay, if you
Speaker 5: do that, but give us good stories too, I'll do
Speaker 5: my best.
Speaker 4: Jevity whiskey, Yeah, yeah, whiskey. Yeah, Okay, ready for the
Speaker 4: first one. Yes, I know what you're gonna do. I
Speaker 4: got a sense of what he's going to do. Jay
Speaker 4: z or Nas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go Jay. Okay, Jay Okay, we have to
Speaker 1: explain why. Yeah, yeah, I've actually never met Nas. You
Speaker 1: never meant that's which is like I feel like we
Speaker 1: were like a degree of separation at a certain pay
Speaker 1: that I just I could hear how I love it, by.
Speaker 2: The way, what you guys love.
Speaker 1: I love Na's work and I saw I went. I
Speaker 1: bought tickets to his show when he came to l
Speaker 1: A like a couple of years ago. Wow, I'm a fan.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 8: So okay, on Tupac or DMX, DMX, I was say
Speaker 8: pack any any any reasons, any story.
Speaker 1: I only say talk because well I mainly say talk
Speaker 1: because I never met poc Tupac is it was such
Speaker 1: a well rounded artist and like he was like he
Speaker 1: had that that other level of like thoughtfulness, like the
Speaker 1: way his mind worked it is crazy. And I think
Speaker 1: DMX did too, But I just I think it really
Speaker 1: came through in the in the songs.
Speaker 5: When it came to you guys, ever interacted with X.
Speaker 5: I feel like X might have been some of the
Speaker 5: festivals you guys I met.
Speaker 1: I met X play the show with them once. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we played with I think were the ones. Actually I
Speaker 1: was thinking of that one where he didn't notorious that
Speaker 1: he always showed blate for everything. So we played one
Speaker 1: of those shows where I remember we were saying backstage
Speaker 1: like should we like go to the next show, or
Speaker 1: like he's going to show up? But I did actually
Speaker 1: end up meeting him. We did a song. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know this. We did a song with
Speaker 1: rock Him. Yeah. Yeah, we had a song off of
Speaker 1: our one of our heaviest metal records, and the song
Speaker 1: was so it was a super song. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a song like six minutes something that's about that. It's
Speaker 1: like this Metallica style six minute song. And we displaced
Speaker 1: in the middle where I was thinking of doing a verse. Actually,
Speaker 1: they were saying like, you should do a rap verse
Speaker 1: on this because that's the most unexpected thing you could do.
Speaker 1: And my brain was like, well, what can we do
Speaker 1: that be even more unexpected? And we managed to reach
Speaker 1: out to rock Him and he drove because he doesn't fly,
Speaker 1: you know, he drove out from New York all the
Speaker 1: way out to l a verse.
Speaker 7: Who's the best?
Speaker 1: Talk about talk about tem about you? You went way
Speaker 1: too fast, so you said, rock Kim drove from New York.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: Either yo, that's leg I'm taking a shot. Even though
Speaker 2: you ain't cute.
Speaker 1: I mean, how did you work with the man? I mean,
Speaker 1: look it all start. I'm not gonna there's not I
Speaker 1: can tell you. I can talk about this for the
Speaker 1: whole thing. But the moment when he got there, he
Speaker 1: came in, I think he came with his wife, right,
Speaker 1: and then he when he came in the door, the
Speaker 1: engineer there was like a runner, like a lower level
Speaker 1: engineer kid who got the door, open the door for him.
Speaker 1: And this kid's got to be like seventeen eighteen, that's
Speaker 1: no idea, eighteen nineteen, that's what I thought. That's what
Speaker 1: I thought. And this kid opened the door and he practically,
Speaker 1: he practically bowed to this man, like everybody knew. You
Speaker 1: couldn't you couldn't avoid it. Like Kim came and he
Speaker 1: literally the kid like like avoided his eyes, opened the door.
Speaker 1: And when he left, the kid who was fucking shook
Speaker 1: And that made me more nervous. I was so nervous.
Speaker 1: But but the reason I mentioned is because like because
Speaker 1: of that, so we did the thing with him, got
Speaker 1: the single and whatever, and then Rock Kim came back
Speaker 1: to town later to do a show, and he did
Speaker 1: a hip hop like a like an old school show
Speaker 1: that had EP m D on the bill and DMX
Speaker 1: was on the bill and so on and so forth, and
Speaker 1: so backstage I got to go say hi, and I
Speaker 1: met all of that and it was one of the
Speaker 1: as a band, just like one of the coolest.
Speaker 4: I tell you, I'll tell you a cool story real
Speaker 4: quick and we get right back to you, guys. I
Speaker 4: see Nas fan out with rock Kim, and that made
Speaker 4: me like, it made me say, don't ever not be
Speaker 4: a fan. Of course, don't ever grow out of being
Speaker 4: a fan like that.
Speaker 2: That's the point of our show.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, don't ever.
Speaker 4: But when I got to see and what I'm saying
Speaker 4: is rock Kim brings that out of everybody.
Speaker 1: That's my point I'm trying to say.
Speaker 4: But it was office and and Na says to be
Speaker 4: you know, Eric being Rock Kim is doing a show tonight.
Speaker 4: Do you think we should go? And I was like,
Speaker 4: you're leaving the ship up to me. I was like,
Speaker 4: we already there when we went, and it was crazy
Speaker 4: because Nas is still like you know, Nas is very
Speaker 4: you know, financially secure, He's very artist and secure but
Speaker 4: I just watched him and I just I was like,
Speaker 4: what do you call that ship? I was people talming
Speaker 4: him almost like I was just like looking over like
Speaker 4: and he knew every word. Like there was workers that
Speaker 4: Rock Kim was performing that I've never heard of, like
Speaker 4: an album to see nas like fan out to the
Speaker 4: guard rock him Like you're saying, like, look like the
Speaker 4: kid didn't want to make eye contact. That's that's who
Speaker 4: he is. He's just like the ultimate guard. So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna take a shot today.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I got got legal poking, all.
Speaker 2: Right, rage against the machine or system of a down.
Speaker 1: That's not fair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know those are the two guys that right,
Speaker 4: it's the Colombian and the Dominican.
Speaker 1: They over there doing a lot of cocaine. We don't.
Speaker 1: We don't judge them. They don't do We don't judge.
Speaker 1: We don't do cocaine. I just took a shot for free. Yea, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was fun up, that was that was fans Paul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do a shot. I can't. I
Speaker 1: gotta do it.
Speaker 2: Same for you. You're same both too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the world is a better place they
Speaker 1: both exist. Yes, Yes, heavy birthday. So, by the way,
Speaker 1: shout out to the System of Down, who I think
Speaker 1: a couple of the guys probably see this, but I
Speaker 1: know they're like touring again. They had they actually stopped
Speaker 1: touring for a minute and they came back together and
Speaker 1: it's it's an exciting time for those guys. They're playing
Speaker 1: very big shows. Light our first show, System, our very
Speaker 1: first show was with System of a Down. Really we
Speaker 1: were first out of three, first of three at the
Speaker 1: Whiskey with sx ten, same same area that all those
Speaker 1: glam bands doing cocaine play that and we uh, we
Speaker 1: were like, we played it?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: What did they call that? Like consignment? Like you have
Speaker 1: to like buy your you know, like that you buy
Speaker 1: it from the promoter for bucks and then you can
Speaker 1: sell it for five bucks. Yeah the rest. That's how
Speaker 1: we do that show. That was your very first show,
Speaker 1: very first they had just gotten signed wow.
Speaker 7: And another band was sx ten, which was that's right
Speaker 7: send Doug from Cypresshill's band.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it was like Cypress Hill and System of
Speaker 6: Down in Lincoln Park.
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of dope.
Speaker 4: This this is a super hip hop question right now?
Speaker 4: All right, By the way. I don't think there's a
Speaker 4: right or wrong answer to this. I'm leading the witness.
Speaker 5: Just give them the question, Clan or n w A.
Speaker 5: It's tough fun I don't think it's the right question.
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is like.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I have I feel
Speaker 1: like I have an answer that I feel like I feel.
Speaker 6: But I feel like the Internet is going to fucking judge.
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell I don't want to say it.
Speaker 2: I whisper really loud in the microphone.
Speaker 1: I'll be judged, So please let's be judge. You know
Speaker 1: what's funny about this question too, I'll tell you my answer.
Speaker 1: I love it when when? Because when I think of
Speaker 1: n w A, I think of a period of time
Speaker 1: when I was That was when I was younger. I
Speaker 1: listened to the Way first, and at that time I
Speaker 1: bought every single thing that Dre. Dre's name was on
Speaker 1: everything he does, even though what was her name, Miche
Speaker 1: about the Michelle record, which I didn't like. That wasn't like.
Speaker 2: I Love you with the Voce Yeah.
Speaker 1: Record. She was amazing all the way through like yeah,
Speaker 1: well into death Row and all that. But I feel
Speaker 1: like there was a But coming on, I my grew
Speaker 1: of friends for some reason with with Wu Tang. We
Speaker 1: My friend had an eighteen inch tall Wu tang w
Speaker 1: in vinyl on the back of his Honda Civic. That's
Speaker 1: how obsessed with my friends were that obsessed with Wu
Speaker 1: Tang and I was as a function of just being
Speaker 1: friends with all them. So that's a hard that's like
Speaker 1: the hardest thing that you're saying me for me. Both
Speaker 1: of the things we were formative, like they were important
Speaker 1: in my like coming of age and music or whatever.
Speaker 6: But the truth is that I probably listened to Dred's
Speaker 6: ship to n w A and dra ship.
Speaker 1: Does we Actually that's a does Dre When you say NWA,
Speaker 1: do you just mean nw A as a group?
Speaker 2: This is whatever crits here in your mind that you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, well, Dennis Wu Tang because there's only how
Speaker 1: many NWA records are there? Only three? I believe it
Speaker 1: was well, yeah, yeah, through record war if you want,
Speaker 1: if you reconcruit thing.
Speaker 2: That wouldn't count as an w A w see.
Speaker 1: It was like that's the one that's one oh one
Speaker 1: hundred miles months four But I but I yeah, but
Speaker 1: then Wu Tang you've got the Wu Tang records and
Speaker 1: you've got all their individual I listened to all those.
Speaker 2: If you do the individu well yeah, there as a group.
Speaker 1: Taking the shot. But he didn't answer. He was very confused. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went, I go, Yeah, I go, and who would you? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think before n w A, I really liked hip
Speaker 1: hop and then n W came out and then I
Speaker 1: love hip hop. Wow, it was it was more. It
Speaker 1: was more than just hip hop.
Speaker 5: It was w A.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's how I felt. N W in Public
Speaker 2: Enemy did that there were a rock band.
Speaker 1: They had something to say. They were bold and they
Speaker 1: didn't give a funk, said the police. I was like,
Speaker 1: holy ship did say.
Speaker 5: That even in my opinion, like it.
Speaker 1: Was in I think it was your show that when
Speaker 1: you talked to Dre, he was talking about like he
Speaker 1: treated it like I mean, I don't think he knew
Speaker 1: at the time, but it was like he was actually
Speaker 1: creating a world, like he was like expressing himself. That's
Speaker 1: how he looks at it now as like a looking
Speaker 1: back at it. He talked about how he, you know,
Speaker 1: being creative, right, Like he wasn't like just oh here
Speaker 1: it is like this is how oh yeah, no, are
Speaker 1: He was like inventing this whole universe, right, and that's
Speaker 1: I think that's what we what resonated so much with
Speaker 1: us with the with.
Speaker 5: The Wu Tang thing that I don't know what's banned,
Speaker 5: but there was something that went viral somebody from a
Speaker 5: legendary rock band saying that he heard Wu Tang and
Speaker 5: it and he got something from it that he knows.
Speaker 5: Was it Stone Tiple, Pilots or I know, you think
Speaker 5: it was maybe more even older than them.
Speaker 1: Was it was John Chi?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like crazy, right because people are like
Speaker 5: they didn't gather that from what he was saying, but.
Speaker 2: He said that influenced them a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then with with Wu Tang, they were just especially Rizzo,
Speaker 7: was just doing unusual usual stuff.
Speaker 5: No, and the way they did when they came out,
Speaker 5: they like brought brought it back to the essence, dirtied
Speaker 5: it up, you know, and it was, Yeah, it was dope.
Speaker 2: When Tank came on the scene, all right, so we
Speaker 2: took a shot, right, we did.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can have this one, sir, Okay, okay, let's
Speaker 1: Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. Oh, Zeppeline, Damn I would have
Speaker 1: went pink Floyd.
Speaker 2: So why didn't you say that? Because I knew I
Speaker 2: was wrong. The Beatles are rolling Stone.
Speaker 1: Beatles for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you said yeah, just because I mean the animation,
Speaker 5: any interactions with these legends.
Speaker 1: I would take acid with the Beatles, like if like
Speaker 1: I've never take they won't take what you.
Speaker 2: Want to know we did with Jay you took acid.
Speaker 1: What we did, we did. We did the Grammys with
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney, Like, oh, but let's clear the room. Not
Speaker 1: on acid. Yeah, I'm gonna see the concert right there.
Speaker 2: Than you've been.
Speaker 1: And I can hear call me, like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: You just let them say we did that.
Speaker 1: That's one of those things where they'll edit together something.
Speaker 1: No acid with any but nobody. You look like you
Speaker 1: would be a good accid god. Maybe. Yeah, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: The hardest strugg you ever did you did okay once
Speaker 4: did not never never me neither.
Speaker 1: I don't want to please me though my hand. Either
Speaker 1: you've done.
Speaker 2: That's why you show show ones under the door.
Speaker 1: You've done cocaine before, right, that's why you drinking spark
Speaker 1: on the water the.
Speaker 2: Shirt that's cocaine.
Speaker 1: He was selling it. Actually I'm not going to I.
Speaker 4: Didn't want to say it earlier, but you definitely have
Speaker 4: the best shirt.
Speaker 1: On in the building. That's what you want shirt from
Speaker 1: the beginning, so that's even I was like, dam my, wife,
Speaker 1: that's the shirt I would like. I was like, in
Speaker 1: my mind, I was jealous.
Speaker 2: I was like that show I think I got in
Speaker 2: MAUI holy ship. Oh are you you want to?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, so we were talking about it was I
Speaker 1: was so into it.
Speaker 2: That you didn't do cocaine. Nobody believed, but you have
Speaker 2: done No, no, not yet. Damn a looper or push
Speaker 2: your tea.
Speaker 1: That's fucked up up. They're both incredible. If I if
Speaker 1: I feel like we just uh, a friend of us
Speaker 1: just we just who we just saw at lunch said oh,
Speaker 1: Mike like push us as high. So if not for that,
Speaker 1: I would probably be like taking it shot right now.
Speaker 1: But since I feel like it was an omen, I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to, so we go and push your tea. I
Speaker 1: mean Lupe didn't say hi, Okay, that was incredible. Made
Speaker 1: me want to take a shot. How about you? I
Speaker 1: had I had dinner once at Loope's mom's house, so
Speaker 1: I think I got to pick I feel like we
Speaker 1: got to get shot because of the confusion we have
Speaker 1: to make up.
Speaker 5: That's a bull shot. We're trying not to make you
Speaker 5: make your flight. Just lett, we want to keep you here.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I just we love you, an don't let's go.
Speaker 5: Let's see on some DJ ship executioners mm or the
Speaker 5: scratch Pickles.
Speaker 1: Okay, we can't do this thing where if we if
Speaker 1: we differ, we're going to take shots every time. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: the rules are written hot somewhere right, He's right. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I know, I know the scratch field pickles
Speaker 1: a little bit. The X Men executioners are that's Rob Swift, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: the clips and all. Yeah, so that's yeah executioners.
Speaker 2: The DJ sid over here, time to take a drink?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: If it wasn't for them to just like trying to
Speaker 7: one up each other. Yeah, back in the day, it's
Speaker 7: like each of them individually and as cruise are just.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, un incredible.
Speaker 1: I mean for people watching who don't know about that,
Speaker 1: Like I I didn't know about it when when I
Speaker 1: met Joe, he was the one who told me, oh,
Speaker 1: check this this battle out, check this DJ out like
Speaker 1: it was that was around ninety five ninety six, I
Speaker 1: think when it was really hot, like those those crews
Speaker 1: were innovating every few it felt like every month.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and shout shout out to the Allies from out here.
Speaker 5: DJ Craze are Homie. They were part of that.
Speaker 1: That was like that was that the same generation or
Speaker 1: or slightly they were there were Yeah, they overlapped, but
Speaker 1: there who I mentioned were a little earlier executioners.
Speaker 5: Yes, Stress Pickles and Allies came shortly after and you
Speaker 5: had eight tracks that comes out of the Ally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible.
Speaker 4: This this is absolutely one of my favorite questions on
Speaker 4: Quick Time Islam Analog or digital?
Speaker 1: I probably do digital? Really, yeah, I would have lost this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do digital because it's the it's what I'm the
Speaker 1: most familiar with. Like I'm I'm I like the sound
Speaker 1: of analog. It's it's there's nothing that can beat it.
Speaker 1: But in terms of the way I make music, if
Speaker 1: it if I was stuck the analog, i'd be I
Speaker 1: would I wouldn't be able to make what I make.
Speaker 5: It makes sense because because that's the way I was
Speaker 5: watching something about you guys, the way you would produce music.
Speaker 2: And He's from a group called Made, and it reminded
Speaker 2: me of you guys. You guys don't do it like
Speaker 2: a traditional.
Speaker 1: Where I'm familiar. We we we uh. They opened for
Speaker 1: for was it four minor? I opened for Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So I would see their process and it
Speaker 5: was in what I saw you guys is similar. It
Speaker 5: was like not a traditional band that jams out together
Speaker 5: like you guys are like with files and and put
Speaker 5: like you know, like sampling and the sampling self, you know,
Speaker 5: playing stuff and and it's dope.
Speaker 2: It's like hip It's basically like hip hop production.
Speaker 1: We learned.
Speaker 2: That's how I learned.
Speaker 1: I need a leak. We we got one of them.
Speaker 2: Why did you wake with two eyes?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what to do it
Speaker 2: that week because you know why, I'm getting a music
Speaker 2: balk come getting like you know, like yo, listen you
Speaker 2: one of those like.
Speaker 1: You know, you know when Super Thug came out, Okay,
Speaker 1: we were like, oh wish we made that song. That's true,
Speaker 1: that's true. We were like it felt like a punk song.
Speaker 1: It felt like a rock song. There was so much
Speaker 1: energy doing so much Oh my god. I was like
Speaker 1: I was at the punk rock man. Yeah, I said that,
Speaker 1: I said, did you really say that? I really did,
Speaker 1: because you know what I like? I like the white
Speaker 1: people crowd do likenest. Did you see how happy I
Speaker 1: was yesterday? I'm like that.
Speaker 2: I did it twice, Iran.
Speaker 1: I like white people. White people, they're not a party.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm characterizing that and the most nonever. I like this
Speaker 1: partying man.
Speaker 2: Excuse I made a record my own boy.
Speaker 1: I came to party because I meant that.
Speaker 2: I like the party man, you don't like.
Speaker 1: The I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I have fun back on some DJ ship rock Raider
Speaker 5: rest in Peace, Mester J rest in Peace.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a tough one. So rock Raider, jem Mess
Speaker 2: That's tough, I get.
Speaker 7: I mean it's it's kind of like the n W
Speaker 7: A who tank questions, like different importance for different different eras.
Speaker 7: For me, when I decided, Hey, I want to be
Speaker 7: a DJ, I was like I was looking at rock
Speaker 7: creator M like he was instrumental for you, Like how
Speaker 7: do you.
Speaker 1: Do anything that he does? But but jam aster J
Speaker 1: came first, right, so like he I feel like DJ's
Speaker 1: later wouldn't have existed without.
Speaker 5: I think he was a big inspiration to turntablism to
Speaker 5: an extent, like the Jordan or Lebron question.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's important different. So I differ with Joe.
Speaker 1: I'd go with jam aster j just because I wasn't
Speaker 1: a DJ, Like I didn't listen to it that way.
Speaker 1: I just he was the first time I heard somebody
Speaker 1: scratching records that I was like, oh, that's and he's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true too. Yeah. But he was also he was
Speaker 1: doing the juggling like they'd wrap over the juggling, and
Speaker 1: that was just like he was like like it felt
Speaker 1: to me like he was inventing a new lane.
Speaker 5: Which there was a lot of DJs for groups that
Speaker 5: were doing that, but he was at that time run
Speaker 5: DMC was.
Speaker 1: Just the biggest. It went Proud Alive when he's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the track that the Live at the Funhouse?
Speaker 6: Right, isn't that the one where he does the big
Speaker 6: beat joke?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So for the people listening who don't know what that is,
Speaker 6: just most of you, go listen to.
Speaker 2: It, go do the research. Digging in the crates.
Speaker 5: That's my favorite ice question. That's Cuba iced team too
Speaker 5: easy easy for me, see, although I did fall out
Speaker 5: of love with Cube. For a moment when he did
Speaker 5: that Black Korea song.
Speaker 1: What's Black Korea? That was the that was the certificate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a racist one. That was the one where he's
Speaker 1: making fun of Asian I'm half Japanese. He was making
Speaker 1: Asians and all of the Asians in l a friends
Speaker 1: and then do it like the supermarkets. Yeah. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: a moment, we all got mad at what Yeah you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you were It was.
Speaker 2: The you were in.
Speaker 1: Okay, it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Really he had a record it was it was Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a questionable moment. Did he apologize?
Speaker 1: Did to make it right? I feel like he did
Speaker 1: a version of an apology, which I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was listening at that point, I think I think
Speaker 1: he kind of did, but I didn't. I wasn't checking
Speaker 1: for ice Cube and I came back.
Speaker 5: That's crazy because that's one of his best albums. The
Speaker 5: whole record is so good. I considered one of the
Speaker 5: best albums.
Speaker 1: Hip Conflicted. I was super conflicted. I was like, I
Speaker 1: love this record so much. On that record that was
Speaker 1: was a physical he was using slurs. Oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: ship I'm so not prepared for this conversation.
Speaker 2: He's like, I just want to go back to the
Speaker 2: white people.
Speaker 1: White one.
Speaker 2: I like white, sorry, like white non guns and roses
Speaker 2: are Motley Cruz.
Speaker 1: Oh that's guns and roses from me. Yeah, I said
Speaker 1: the same, I said guns and ruds.
Speaker 2: The name is guns and roses man.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because, like I said before, like when
Speaker 1: it when it that was hot, like when it was first,
Speaker 1: when it was as big as it could get. That
Speaker 1: was the time when I hated it the most because
Speaker 1: I was there was guns over our table, our table.
Speaker 6: Our table was listening to rap the other guys other
Speaker 6: table was the guns ru.
Speaker 2: What's ill about them?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 5: I remember I clearly remember the seeing Axle wearing the
Speaker 5: n w A had on stage.
Speaker 6: Back then, we didn't have Twitter, right, so like it
Speaker 6: could all just be like bullshit like that.
Speaker 2: Some kids said to me, well, even now, even worse,
Speaker 2: we don't know what's real.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. It's almost hundreds of information. I try
Speaker 1: not to let me just tell you something. I love Twitter.
Speaker 1: I go on there, fantastic, tell me more. Listen. I
Speaker 1: will take a picture of.
Speaker 2: Something that no one can hate on a white bunny rabbit.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll take that a white bunny rabbit and I
Speaker 4: post it and they'll be like, that bitch is ugly.
Speaker 1: You like, this ship makes me.
Speaker 4: So happy because I'm like, your life is not great,
Speaker 4: Like there's people out here who hate everything, and just
Speaker 4: remind yourself of that.
Speaker 1: So I will post a picture. I swear to God,
Speaker 1: there's nothing there's nothing wrong about this, right, I'll just
Speaker 1: post this.
Speaker 2: Somebody will be like, fucking bitch, your cup is ugly.
Speaker 1: Yo. Listen, now I can start my dad, like, I
Speaker 1: know that there's someone somewhere that hats for no reason.
Speaker 5: No usually they're happy as fuck, but they just their fucking.
Speaker 2: Twitter fingers say some bullshit. Twitter is the best.
Speaker 6: Actually, this is the thing that that I was thinking this.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this this morning because this show
Speaker 1: you to Get he goes, Yeah, it's loose you talk
Speaker 1: about about it's god damn, it's just banter. But it's
Speaker 1: it's looser than most. So I was thinking about that,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about how one of the things
Speaker 1: that about the social media thing that that kind of
Speaker 1: that we don't ever talk about is the fact that
Speaker 1: with our so we've got a new a new lineup
Speaker 1: with our band We've got Chester Passed Away. We took
Speaker 1: many years off basically as a band, and then eventually
Speaker 1: we ended up meeting two new great members.
Speaker 6: We met a new singer named Emily and a new drummer,
Speaker 6: the girl Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when we eventually relaunched the band, we did it
Speaker 1: through a livestream show and they could hear like the
Speaker 1: instead of it being like us giving you a pr
Speaker 1: like press release statement or something, we just played music
Speaker 1: and we played a new song and they could see
Speaker 1: her singing the old songs, and just like everything else
Speaker 1: on the internet, people just jumped up and like everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna have Yeah, they're gonna have their opinion positive negative,
Speaker 1: and then also in the middle like they didn't they
Speaker 1: were still making up their mind. And what's been really
Speaker 1: interesting to see is we go through all the tour
Speaker 1: dates and more time passes, is you see like people
Speaker 1: who were like super haters in the beginning, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they're like change their mind and now they're
Speaker 1: like at the shows and talking about it. And then
Speaker 1: other people who are like hearing that you're fucking stupid,
Speaker 1: like they get so mad. Internet it's total chaos. So
Speaker 1: I think That's one of the reasons why I don't
Speaker 1: go on much personally. They're talking about the thing that
Speaker 1: I love, Like I don't know this is actually this
Speaker 1: is a separate set. Good do you feel because this
Speaker 1: is almost like a question for another rapper, like do
Speaker 1: you feel as do you feel so so passionate about
Speaker 1: the things that you've made that if some they took
Speaker 1: it away from you and said you can never make
Speaker 1: another record, that you can never get in the studio,
Speaker 1: you can never rap again, you can never make like
Speaker 1: you want to somebody to do that you lost your voice,
Speaker 1: and can they do that to me? Now?
Speaker 5: I don't want to make another Bob Sorry, oh you
Speaker 5: don't want to make It's to me.
Speaker 1: Not being able to do Lincoln Park is like I
Speaker 1: have like a hole in like I'm missing a piece
Speaker 1: of my like like if you have not, I'm incomplete.
Speaker 1: If you have a peace of mind, don't go on Twitter.
Speaker 1: But I don't like my peace of mind right Like
Speaker 1: I I'm fucked up. Like I kind of like this
Speaker 1: negative ship because I'm from New York City.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know in New York City, negativity is positivity.
Speaker 1: Just use it in the right way. So this is
Speaker 1: my way.
Speaker 4: When I go on Twitter, I will take a picture.
Speaker 4: I promise you I'll take a picture like something innocent
Speaker 4: like this. And I know they're going to find a
Speaker 4: negative part of it, but some of though actually accurate.
Speaker 1: Some of them will be like you should have, you
Speaker 1: should have it's doubt this part. Did you look at it?
Speaker 1: You're like, yo, he's right. Criticism, criticism, it's.
Speaker 5: Fucking fucked up criticism. But so you've never been on Twitter?
Speaker 5: No I have, I haven't, And.
Speaker 1: Just just being honest with you, it's very dangerous. It's
Speaker 1: a lot more crazy like you sound like, like like
Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld, like when he talks about he was on
Speaker 1: some night uh late night show talking about his wife,
Speaker 1: like people don't understand, like when he likes something, it's
Speaker 1: because he can complain about it, like he's the miserable.
Speaker 1: Part is the part that he is.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. He said it better like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not in his mind. But that's it
Speaker 1: sounds like that he's in New Yorker too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you guys?
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at them? Since you're happy, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: being honest, let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: I haven't been in New York in a long time,
Speaker 1: but every now and then I fly to New York
Speaker 1: just to get negative and I just come back.
Speaker 4: I just I just need a little bit of some
Speaker 4: negativity in my life. And this is this is the
Speaker 4: safest way to receive it. Negativity.
Speaker 1: You just go to New York and you will be angry.
Speaker 2: It's like a negative song.
Speaker 4: You Even in Manhattan and the rich, they have a
Speaker 4: place called being Ares Road. I stayed pretty much down.
Speaker 4: Is that the restaurant that they touched it to you?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, that's that's in Paris. That's no. No.
Speaker 5: But there's one in New York that I I mean,
Speaker 5: I saw doctor Spot.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: My people just being.
Speaker 1: Fast people love. That's what's the name of that little
Speaker 1: cafe cafe. It's not Cafe Habana.
Speaker 2: It's in Paris.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: No, this is like in in New York City. Talk
Speaker 2: ships to people.
Speaker 1: They're so that's their thing. At least it was. I
Speaker 1: don't I haven't been there recently, but they came down Cuban.
Speaker 1: You go in and the and they'd be like they
Speaker 1: just like point and you're supposed to know that they mean,
Speaker 1: go sit and you sit down and they're like, what
Speaker 1: do you want? And if you don't answer right away,
Speaker 1: they just walk away and like they get five stars
Speaker 1: because the food is so good that you'll put up
Speaker 1: with the beating in order to eat the food.
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe that's that's a business idea.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: It's very New York though, Like I feel like there's well, no,
Speaker 5: I saw a documentary but a diner in Manhattan. But
Speaker 5: this is an old documentary, so maybe the spot's not
Speaker 5: around where they that you sit down and you look
Speaker 5: at the menu and then if you don't do anything
Speaker 5: in a cera amount of times, like get the fuck
Speaker 5: out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they start screaming at you and talking shitt Okay.
Speaker 1: That's what you like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you mean that's not going to ship.
Speaker 1: He's mean and if you if you don't comply to it,
Speaker 1: it's like he kicks you out. I mean you do that.
Speaker 1: It like Carnegie, that Carnegie Delli like right, my family
Speaker 1: there and he wait, wait, you tactically did that to
Speaker 1: my children.
Speaker 2: I was like mad at him. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: not fucking with that. That ship dude.
Speaker 4: You guys are both from California. Yes, California. So you
Speaker 4: guys do not understand that New York Allison.
Speaker 1: We've been in New York. You know.
Speaker 5: You know what was my favorite group of all time
Speaker 5: from California? And they were dropping disc records? Who the
Speaker 5: Beach Boys?
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you've said this, Like, I actually like
Speaker 1: his idea of this, go ahead. The Beach Boys was
Speaker 1: dropping disc records. Back then, East.
Speaker 5: Coast West Coast started with the Beach Boys, he says,
Speaker 5: the East Coast West Coast beach.
Speaker 1: You know, remember the records? Were they beating with the Beatles? No,
Speaker 1: they was like the Beatles. I was saying that they
Speaker 1: had a thing the Beatles and Beach Boys had.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, he's literally.
Speaker 1: Saying that was so tell me about this was like
Speaker 1: a creative competition, like who can make him more interesting? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's different than what you're talking.
Speaker 2: Do you you?
Speaker 1: I don't do I look like a beach boys type
Speaker 1: A gay an l A beach boy l A. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: Okay, have you been to Venice? Yes, my friend Alchemist,
Speaker 4: this is from Venice. I took a shot at him
Speaker 4: the other day.
Speaker 1: He sent it to me.
Speaker 2: He's like, what he's not from Venice. He has a
Speaker 2: studio in Venice.
Speaker 1: He has a studio.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's from Venice. I believe he's he's
Speaker 2: go back to the beach boys this and he's goot beach.
Speaker 4: Boys said, he's a He's like, could and make me
Speaker 4: from California.
Speaker 5: It's about the girls. All the pretty girls should be
Speaker 5: from California.
Speaker 1: How co dis respectful?
Speaker 2: So that's automatic shots fire?
Speaker 1: That was shot? Yes, then Tony, Tony, Tony did it?
Speaker 1: Said you had a No, you had.
Speaker 2: A better reason.
Speaker 1: You didna directly from the.
Speaker 2: Only one is connecting that.
Speaker 4: Right then, California guys been taking shot to the East
Speaker 4: coast for a long Yes, he was like, there's like
Speaker 4: it might be cold on the East coast, but on
Speaker 4: the southern tire of town it never rains in southern Coli.
Speaker 4: How you why you got to say this East Coast.
Speaker 4: We know we're freezing. We know that we're wearing Timberland's.
Speaker 4: This is not a fashion statement. This is actually because
Speaker 4: we're cold, sir, and they've been going at us, you
Speaker 4: guys with your nice weather.
Speaker 1: Let's finish quick. I'm sorry, I'm so happy man, I'm
Speaker 1: just being we're here here in Miami. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a shot to that Miami, definitely.
Speaker 2: He came accordingly.
Speaker 5: I do love the weather today, really really really I'm
Speaker 5: matching too, are we?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah in this lighting you are? That's fine?
Speaker 5: And you l a.
Speaker 1: Shot. No, no, he's no your rules. I love Miami, man, like, okay,
Speaker 1: black Sabbath or a C D C skips? No? What
Speaker 1: all right? I asked the question. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know the question is you said cypriscail or
Speaker 7: this but no, no, like sabath of a C D C.
Speaker 1: Is okay, pick cypresso okay, I don't know the wow,
Speaker 1: the one is black.
Speaker 2: Sabbath a c D a c DC for me, yeah okay?
Speaker 5: And the one we skipped is what he's saying, Rick
Speaker 5: Ruben or doctor Dre and I know you guys worked
Speaker 5: with Rack and we want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: That's so fun, I was, I.
Speaker 6: I said to somebody literally the other day who asked
Speaker 6: me name.
Speaker 1: I don't know. However, many of your favorite like the
Speaker 1: artists that if they didn't exist, you your music wouldn't exist,
Speaker 1: and that those were my first two things out of
Speaker 1: my mouth. Is Rick and then and then, like I said,
Speaker 1: I owned everything Dre had, But I think Rick was first,
Speaker 1: Like Rick was the first person that I went, oh,
Speaker 1: his name's on all these records, Like he was the
Speaker 1: first person that I paid attention to. I'd say it's
Speaker 1: definitely Rick because he's he's the He's the first person
Speaker 1: that made me wonder what a producer was.
Speaker 5: He made beats of slippers. I mean he we did records.
Speaker 5: We did a couple of albums with Rick.
Speaker 1: So our experience with Rick was very different than what
Speaker 1: you know, like the Beastie Boys experience would have been,
Speaker 1: like the stories they tell her that was young Rick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, he by the time you guys got a different,
Speaker 5: very different Yeah. And and he has like he has
Speaker 5: a book.
Speaker 1: He's a book full of his what's it called the
Speaker 1: Art of Creativity or creation or something, Yeah, I forget it,
Speaker 1: something like that. And I love that book. Like I think,
Speaker 1: like if you, for all the people that have never
Speaker 1: met Rick or watched Rick work, like if you took
Speaker 1: that book and just set it in your studio and
Speaker 1: every single day before you started working, if you just
Speaker 1: flipped it open and just read whatever it comes up on,
Speaker 1: if you just read a couple of pages of that.
Speaker 1: I feel like it'll set the tone in your mind,
Speaker 1: like a better way of thinking about being created. He's
Speaker 1: that good that it's like just by reading his words
Speaker 1: in the book that you're you'd be in a better
Speaker 1: position to make good stuff.
Speaker 5: For people who don't understand, because I've seen things where
Speaker 5: people try to criticize the way he produces, saying he
Speaker 5: doesn't actually play instruments, he doesn't know how to write music.
Speaker 2: What is his production stuff? How does he produce someone
Speaker 2: like you guys?
Speaker 7: I think for us it was a matter of us,
Speaker 7: like if you think about the first two records, theory
Speaker 7: of media, or to kind of go together like chapter
Speaker 7: one and two, like this is part of the pairing.
Speaker 7: At a certain point, we want to well, we were
Speaker 7: fans of recrubment and it's like, oh shit, like we
Speaker 7: can dig into his mind on hip hop and punk
Speaker 7: rock all that stuff. But what he actually ended up
Speaker 7: doing for us is getting to know us as people
Speaker 7: as artists and knowing that we had to get over
Speaker 7: a hump in more ways than one, and just help
Speaker 7: help guide us along.
Speaker 2: It's like it's very psychological with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well we needed to like reinvent the band,
Speaker 1: like we needed to be a different on our third record.
Speaker 1: If we had done the same thing that we did
Speaker 1: two albums, if we had done the same thing as
Speaker 1: the first two albums on the next one, then we'd
Speaker 1: be stuck doing that forever. So when we went to him,
Speaker 1: we said, he said, what kind of album do you
Speaker 1: want to make? And that's what we told him, is like,
Speaker 1: want to make something really different and this is why.
Speaker 1: And he went around the room and had each person answer,
Speaker 1: so he heard it from each person in the band,
Speaker 1: and then at the end of it he said, good,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because that is the way
Speaker 1: that I would want to work with you. Like if
Speaker 1: you didn't say that, I wouldn't want to work with you.
Speaker 1: This is the way, and I agree with you that
Speaker 1: that's the thing for your band to do. So we
Speaker 1: spent the whole time on that third record taking what
Speaker 1: we thought was the park. We were actually not. We
Speaker 1: were over on a street called Laurel Canyon. Did you
Speaker 1: know who Harry Houdini the magician? Do you ever know?
Speaker 6: Herebook stories about that? Actual Houdini had a mansion and.
Speaker 1: This house was like there was a tunnel that went
Speaker 1: to his health connected underneath to this other place. Did
Speaker 1: you just say actual actual?
Speaker 6: Yeah, this was across they were connected houses.
Speaker 1: I think it was like his mistress. So Rick owns.
Speaker 1: Rick owned, he doesn't anymore. He used to own that house.
Speaker 1: And we made our.
Speaker 2: Album in that house and house yeah with the tunnel.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. By the way, that's the same place that
Speaker 1: like system of down he mentioned before and read Hot
Speaker 1: Chili Peppers, so you mentioned before, like all the people
Speaker 1: that worked with Rich, a lot of them worked at
Speaker 1: this house and there was there was good energy, good
Speaker 1: vibes whatever there. We went there and we did it,
Speaker 1: and that was the whole point, was to like get
Speaker 1: outside of our what's normal. We were used to make
Speaker 1: a record in a studio, so we went to this
Speaker 1: house and made a record in this house and everything
Speaker 1: felt very different. And at the end of the process, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that the whole point was to learn more
Speaker 1: about who we were and who we wanted to be,
Speaker 1: aspiring to be right not we weren't there yet, but
Speaker 1: we wanted to be something that was bigger than what
Speaker 1: we were, and he helped us kind of point us
Speaker 1: in the right direct. It wasn't like here it is.
Speaker 7: It was more like, here's the direction and it's new,
Speaker 7: so go figure it it, go explore. Yeah, I think
Speaker 7: it was more important than producing that record at the time.
Speaker 7: It was unlocking these things that we had within us
Speaker 7: that we could just easily become trapped in. So it
Speaker 7: was almost like, Okay, go make the next record, but
Speaker 7: make as many records as you want.
Speaker 1: You guys ever worked at a lecture lady Jimmy Hendricks studio,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. If I did, it was like
Speaker 1: one day. I don't think I did, though, because it's
Speaker 1: like I'm mixing it up with that. No, I don't
Speaker 1: have it.
Speaker 4: It's a cat, that's that's there, and they say that's
Speaker 4: Jimmy Hendrix incarnated.
Speaker 2: Listen, I just did blood work.
Speaker 4: The first thing the doctor told me was you're super
Speaker 4: allergic to cats, Like I can't even be in the
Speaker 4: same But for some reason, this cat does not make
Speaker 4: me break out.
Speaker 2: It's Jimmy. I mean, did you answer?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Rick relaxed, buddy, all right? All right, Timblin or Farrell,
Speaker 5: isn't that like the what came first the chicken? And
Speaker 5: I don't know what came.
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 5: Timberland would have been first. Yeah, right, well I don't
Speaker 5: know because was working right, but we don't know. The
Speaker 5: thing is, I think that's they're very close. Let's just
Speaker 5: say they're in the same wee Lego Virginia, so oh
Speaker 5: we've seen that straight.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: It's very dope.
Speaker 7: I would say Timberland for me because there was a
Speaker 7: certain period of time or everything Timberland made like made
Speaker 7: such an impact that kind of helped me think a
Speaker 7: little bit different.
Speaker 2: Have you guys worked with Timberland. Don't know why. I
Speaker 2: feel like we think makes sense to.
Speaker 1: Me because Timberland worked on some of the J tracks,
Speaker 1: but also we did he did like submit a thing
Speaker 1: for that remix that one time. A yeah, he did,
Speaker 1: like off of hybrid theory. When we were doing a
Speaker 1: remix record called Reanimation. He Timberlin did send a loop
Speaker 1: and it was almost like I wanted it to be great,
Speaker 1: but everybody makes stuff that's like, you know, great to
Speaker 1: not great, and he I don't. I feel like he
Speaker 1: just put a thing, like put something in that was
Speaker 1: like maybe not cooked. It was more like it was
Speaker 1: almost like to see if we were interested. But it
Speaker 1: didn't feel like the record. It didn't feel like our records.
Speaker 1: I'd say I'll say Farrell though, just because of the scope, right,
Speaker 1: like with all this time, like Pharrell is still the
Speaker 1: he on his own and I think Chad, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Chad is a genius.
Speaker 5: I think we can never not say the neptune when
Speaker 5: we meant but if you but you said you said
Speaker 5: Forell for sure, I think Farrell on his own, like
Speaker 5: is it's super accomplished, incredible, It's incredible what he's what
Speaker 5: he's done.
Speaker 1: I feel like because it wouldn't be like a like
Speaker 1: a Tyler the Creator without him, right Forarrell? Mm hm.
Speaker 2: Metallica, Iron Maiden.
Speaker 1: Metallica Easy, Easy, But that was one of the best
Speaker 1: tours we did his tour with them. We've done a
Speaker 1: lot of shows with them, but we did a whole
Speaker 1: summer tour with them at one point and it was
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 6: Top top three tours that.
Speaker 1: We did with. Yeah, we spent the whole summer. Was
Speaker 1: it was like in the era of like just at
Speaker 1: the end of like the new metal thing, like they
Speaker 1: still had the long hair. They all the rock bands
Speaker 1: were out and then that was coming to a close
Speaker 1: and Metallica put it was them Limp Biscuit Us there
Speaker 1: and mud Vein and like and we since we were
Speaker 1: in the middle of the bill, it was it felt
Speaker 1: like we were underdogs a little bit. We weren't like
Speaker 1: we knew we were coming with like a really big
Speaker 1: show and just the performance like we felt we were
Speaker 1: on fire, like we were just fuck great and the
Speaker 1: fans loved our music. And so every single one of
Speaker 1: those shows we went and we killed like it was
Speaker 1: just so much fun. And then that and that's unusual
Speaker 1: for Metallica fan. I don't know if you know this,
Speaker 1: but their fans are their fans are can be very
Speaker 1: rude to their openers. They can you know, like they
Speaker 1: hit their fans. We we there was one show we
Speaker 1: saw this is a very common thing for their shows.
Speaker 1: Their fans will show up and turn their back to
Speaker 1: the ship to the performance and put their middle fingers
Speaker 1: and they'll throw beers at the stage while you're performing.
Speaker 1: And we didn't get any of that. It was incredible,
Speaker 1: So they didn't do it. They did not do that.
Speaker 1: Time Metallica get hot to thet. I just feel like
Speaker 1: I just feel like I think the day it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It was what you were saying earlier. There
Speaker 1: was always were beer.
Speaker 2: Now I see them on some.
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels or something like that. I just want to
Speaker 1: go back in time and then you need to be
Speaker 1: like an eighties glam rocknest you putt and glamor. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, but he wants to drink
Speaker 1: beers and like I want to, right, I want to
Speaker 1: bite it back head o snake that ship maybe a
Speaker 1: little earlier. I want to I want to back to
Speaker 1: the seven.
Speaker 2: I want to do all that ship like, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, in my past life while I was white.
Speaker 2: I'm being honest, Yeah, you're I know, like like like
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: You know, I said everywhere like because because I'm like
Speaker 1: I love Jaeger and ship. That's really funny because I
Speaker 1: do like from my experience on tour, I do feel
Speaker 1: like jager is a very white liquor. Very I only
Speaker 1: think of I do only think of those tours where
Speaker 1: where yeah, you're in the middle of the country, this
Speaker 1: is the only only white people. That was our experience
Speaker 1: on a probably that that that oz Fest we played
Speaker 1: as all those all those exactly sponsored by right now,
Speaker 1: we we like, I think we like learned how to
Speaker 1: be a band on like a long how to show
Speaker 1: our know that they were all they were all getting
Speaker 1: drunk him waking up, drinking pedialyte like rehydrate and then
Speaker 1: going again every single day.
Speaker 2: That was the ivy of the time.
Speaker 1: Again, like I said, think we were more focused on
Speaker 1: like building our band and like being a little more.
Speaker 1: We were focused. It sounds like you guys are so
Speaker 1: that was not our environment. We had to learn to
Speaker 1: go in there and like win those crowds over. We
Speaker 1: had to learned how to like.
Speaker 2: You know, so Ozzy Osbourne never came to he was like.
Speaker 1: Some I don't think he ever. I don't think they came.
Speaker 1: I don't think, by the way, that's not I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not like making fun of Ozzy. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that was their tour. They I didn't see him once,
Speaker 1: like I really, he didn't come hang out. They were
Speaker 1: the headliner. Yeah, I hear, he's I hear. They're all
Speaker 1: perfectly nice, like but he comes.
Speaker 5: I've seen some interviews seem likelish people.
Speaker 2: They live forever, so like vampires. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: Think anybody from Britain dies like enough, like right, like
Speaker 4: they get high, they get.
Speaker 2: British, you bring ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be good to know you. He's gonna gonna be.
Speaker 2: Honorable mention before we passes.
Speaker 5: When Iron Maiden by Far, I think has one of
Speaker 5: the best mascots ever in Eddie.
Speaker 1: That's a great point.
Speaker 5: Like I love their mascots though, and I never have
Speaker 5: an opportunity to say that. That is funny because like.
Speaker 6: That character when I was young, when I was little,
Speaker 6: like it scared the hell out of me.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was a terrifying character. Yeah, and my
Speaker 5: crew we created it. We have a character for crazier productions.
Speaker 5: It's kind of based on that a little bit. The
Speaker 5: next Styles of Beyond or Demigods.
Speaker 1: Bro, that's kind the same thing.
Speaker 2: You're taking a shot, I mean.
Speaker 5: Cheers.
Speaker 1: I mean I never kind kind of a I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I think I mean shout out to Demigod's
Speaker 1: no style of.
Speaker 5: All right, no, take the last one. So that's the
Speaker 5: last last one. It's my favorite. Loyalty or respect? Right,
Speaker 5: I heard you ask this? Yeah, somebody said, uh, somebody
Speaker 5: said on one.
Speaker 1: Of your episodes about like you could you could pay
Speaker 1: somebody to be loyal, but you can't pay them to respect.
Speaker 7: You.
Speaker 1: I thought that was wise. I think I think you
Speaker 1: have to earn respect, so I pick respect. I'm very
Speaker 1: confused by the question.
Speaker 2: I like that, I like that ask you should be
Speaker 2: What part of the question confuses I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they're just kind of you.
Speaker 2: Could you say both? And that's why I think it
Speaker 2: should be just both.
Speaker 1: I think they're interfined, you know, because why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: want both?
Speaker 2: I'm honestly with you. Go ahead continue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't bet. You can't have one without the other.
Speaker 2: You could.
Speaker 1: You can make in the in the most genuine way, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, genuinely right, Yeah, and we're talking.
Speaker 1: About being genuine, right. Yeah. It's hard to answer.
Speaker 2: So you got to drink. We're drinking.
Speaker 4: Yes, he said both, honestly, one of the greatest answers ever.
Speaker 4: Like how you said it, because I believe that, like
Speaker 4: I believe one coincide with the other.
Speaker 1: That's why I always say both, drink.
Speaker 2: Drink.
Speaker 1: Just said.
Speaker 2: I've said this earlier.
Speaker 4: Because for me hip hop it's a very limited not
Speaker 4: not I don't want to say limited, but.
Speaker 2: It's a certain mountaintop.
Speaker 4: H I want to take Biggie's line and say that
Speaker 4: you ever think rock and roll will go this fall?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like rock and roll is like.
Speaker 4: Like I'm just saying where rock and roll comes from
Speaker 4: to be clear, you know what the ultimate and this
Speaker 4: is gonna sound crazy and I know my fans, so
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna say it the proper way, but
Speaker 4: one of our ultimate goals in hip hop is to
Speaker 4: get inducted in the rock and roll hold.
Speaker 2: When hip hop needs its own. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's weird. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is it's an honor.
Speaker 4: It's an honor like l L Like when we find
Speaker 4: out l L crop Quest is getting inducted into it
Speaker 4: right now, shout out to outcasts and so on. Pepper
Speaker 4: who yes, like salut. But so that's it's in a
Speaker 4: certain way saying we respect rock and roll. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: what do you say about that?
Speaker 1: Well, I've always said I've always said that I I
Speaker 1: got into hip hop through the back door in terms
Speaker 1: of my career, Like I could have.
Speaker 6: Just like a little way of like explaining it is.
Speaker 1: When I first started like making my own songs and
Speaker 1: then Joe and I would make songs together, I had
Speaker 1: met the guys from Styles of Beyond through our mutual
Speaker 1: friend Double seven, and they they I realized I could
Speaker 1: go that path and like start making rap records and
Speaker 1: like trying to break in. And then at the same
Speaker 1: time we had this rock rap electronic like with this
Speaker 1: weird mashup thing going on with the band that started
Speaker 1: to happen, and I realized, Oh, that's like a way
Speaker 1: that I could rap and express that part of who
Speaker 1: I am, but do it in a really creative and
Speaker 1: different at the time, very different way. And so I
Speaker 1: could be I could get into that scene and like
Speaker 1: meet rappers that I admired and work with different people
Speaker 1: through this like back door. So so yeah, for me,
Speaker 1: it was very much like I never thought. I never
Speaker 1: thought that that would lead me to where to all
Speaker 1: the thing, to jay Z, to you know, Rick Rubin
Speaker 1: and all the things we talked about today. I didn't
Speaker 1: that wasn't like doing.
Speaker 2: The most hip hop ship. Yeah, at a point, right and.
Speaker 1: At a certain point like influencing influencing hip hop kids
Speaker 1: to try other things, like to try other styles. That's true.
Speaker 1: Like people who come up to us of the show
Speaker 1: case you want to I'm good. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: you gotta a great host. I'm sorry, you're good. No,
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's you know the now there's so
Speaker 1: there's really no like boundary between genres at all. Like everything,
Speaker 1: virtually everything I listened to, I wouldn't call it a
Speaker 1: genre anymore. I wouldn't call it rock. I wouldn't call
Speaker 1: it any It's just music. So that's the type of
Speaker 1: music I like. And we're at a point where almost
Speaker 1: everything is that way. Like the biggest records in the
Speaker 1: world are usually records that are like blending lots of
Speaker 1: different Do.
Speaker 2: You think that's always positive that there is?
Speaker 1: Maybe not? I mean, because people can be a tourist
Speaker 1: like that. The saddest part for me was when we
Speaker 1: were doing when we were getting started and we realized
Speaker 1: that there are groups who are doing adding hip hop
Speaker 1: elements just because like, oh, now we've got scratching on this,
Speaker 1: Oh we're rapping on this. But the guy felt he's
Speaker 1: never listened to a rap record in his life. He's
Speaker 1: rapping on this track, Like that's the type of thing
Speaker 1: that we when we were making music, we thought that
Speaker 1: was really corny, But now that doesn't really happen. Like
Speaker 1: now everybody's heard everything, you've got access to everything in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: You put your verses next to jay Z.
Speaker 6: I mean, to be able to be on a record
Speaker 6: with him at the time, that was like a you know,
Speaker 6: like I.
Speaker 4: Didn't realize how once you were like like on that
Speaker 4: level with him. I was listening to it today and
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, you really put this solf.
Speaker 6: But I feel like my best verses are not those
Speaker 6: verses at all.
Speaker 1: The other way. Yeah, you understand how like how that
Speaker 1: could have been tooken, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The wrong way people could have just been But that
Speaker 4: that lets you know that like that's really hip hop
Speaker 4: in you you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes yeah, I mean, do you consider yourself
Speaker 1: or not in terms of being Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's what That's how I started. Like I don't
Speaker 1: even like we joke because I sing on the on
Speaker 1: the new record, which by the way, I keep pointing here,
Speaker 1: but it's like, actually on the I keep pointing at
Speaker 1: the why do they keep pointing out here on the
Speaker 1: new record, Like I sing a bunch? Of course I'm
Speaker 1: still rapping a ton, but I sing a bunch. And
Speaker 1: in spite of that, I don't usually call myself a
Speaker 1: singer because I do think of myself as a rapper.
Speaker 2: First, God, damn, let's talk Grammys.
Speaker 1: You guys two.
Speaker 4: Grammys nominated six times. I'm so I do have one
Speaker 4: on one on my own. You got one on you
Speaker 4: right now. You just get my own, but have one.
Speaker 1: I just want to clear. I just will be clear.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it right now. I never liked to
Speaker 2: do I gotta know I did.
Speaker 1: I did ie one just a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: for this like remix thing that I did that it
Speaker 1: was it was a they had a category for a
Speaker 1: remix and I did the remix. And oh it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's funny that you didn't want to like you felt
Speaker 2: like we're like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, bringing it up, and I don't. Yeah, yeah, how
Speaker 1: does that feel? We actually, well, you can scull. You
Speaker 1: got two.
Speaker 2: Grammys, your Grammys.
Speaker 7: How do you feel that we did We didn't finish
Speaker 7: answering one of the earlier questions, bring back into it,
Speaker 7: that's what question.
Speaker 2: And if anybody has to take a pistous, you've been
Speaker 2: drinking a lot of water. Here appreciates you. Just get
Speaker 2: up and go take a pistole. No problems.
Speaker 7: But you asked us about doing something with the Beatles. Okay,
Speaker 7: so we did Collision Course with Jay and part of
Speaker 7: that climate around that time was danger.
Speaker 1: MOUs did the Gray album. The Gray Album, which is
Speaker 1: the Beatles.
Speaker 7: And then we're like, okay, they're asking us to perform
Speaker 7: because we're nominated, which is a good sign that something
Speaker 7: might happen. And then we're like, how do we top
Speaker 7: this off? And we're like, oh wait, what if we
Speaker 7: get a Beatle? So we ended up bringing Paul McCartney out.
Speaker 1: On the song. But the crazy, but the crazy part
Speaker 1: was that we asked him. We came up with the
Speaker 1: idea like okay, well this brings it full circle right
Speaker 1: like this this by the way, I can stop you
Speaker 1: for a second. Please remember I just loveys.
Speaker 2: It's just so nonchalantago the most legend.
Speaker 1: Sitting there. My heart is like this and you guys
Speaker 1: are talking about the most legendary ship in the most
Speaker 1: common way.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Please continue.
Speaker 2: Well, I will say the the.
Speaker 7: Ward itself is great, but like the experience of doing
Speaker 7: that right, it allows you to do these things and
Speaker 7: that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, you know, we asked we
Speaker 1: had done the Collision course thing with Jay. We did
Speaker 1: a couple performances, like we had gone on stage with
Speaker 1: him a couple of times. The record was did what
Speaker 1: it did. It was great, people really liked it, and
Speaker 1: Jay was ready to Jay was starting retirement. He was retired,
Speaker 1: so we had the idea to do this like full circle, like, oh,
Speaker 1: the mashup thing is was big. Now it's coming to
Speaker 1: a close, and so let's do let's bring it back
Speaker 1: to the beginning of it and do something with Paul
Speaker 1: McCartney and Jay.
Speaker 6: And so first we went to Paul's people and.
Speaker 1: Asked if he would be interested, because if he's not
Speaker 1: going to be interested, then the conversation's over. But he
Speaker 1: said yes, We're like okay, cool. And then we went
Speaker 1: to Jay and said are you interested and they said no.
Speaker 1: We were like what and obviously shocked, and they were like, no,
Speaker 1: he retired, Like he's not making music anymore, he's not
Speaker 1: going to get on stage. He just wants to be
Speaker 1: the he's doing the Deaf Jam thing. He's just going
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah. Yeah, he was the president of
Speaker 1: Deaf Jam and he just wants to be the executive,
Speaker 1: not an artist. And so for us we were like no,
Speaker 1: you don't understand, like this is it's a big deal,
Speaker 1: it's the Grammys, it's Paul whatever. So eventually they they
Speaker 1: he made an exception because it was such a big
Speaker 1: thing that he made an exception.
Speaker 2: That's a huge thing.
Speaker 1: Huge.
Speaker 6: And then we I mean we had to like, you know,
Speaker 6: plead our case.
Speaker 1: And then we go to the the rehearsals for it,
Speaker 1: and the way this man Paul McCartney like Sir Paul right,
Speaker 1: he's a knight, ye, he's literally Sir Paul McCartney. The
Speaker 1: way this man comes in and talks to people and acts,
Speaker 1: I kid you not, like we did the rehearsals, camera
Speaker 1: blocking and what just practices. And he came off the
Speaker 1: stage and he saw this guy standing against the wall
Speaker 1: like he was holding a broom. He was just kind
Speaker 1: of like staring, and Paul leaves everybody and goes over
Speaker 1: there and just has like a one on one conversation
Speaker 1: with a man who's literally the janitor, and he sat
Speaker 1: there and talked to him for ten minutes. Just made
Speaker 1: that guy's whole life like it was. It was like
Speaker 1: you see stuff like that and you go, that's how
Speaker 1: to be right, that's like this is the man's he's
Speaker 1: giving us a lesson in like, if you were to
Speaker 1: ever even conceivably be a portion as famous and important
Speaker 1: as he is, Like this is how you treat people.
Speaker 5: You'd hope he'd be like that because the era that
Speaker 5: they came up in and the whole like hippie movement,
Speaker 5: they were about that, like they were freeness, you know, Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: so you would hold that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the way. That was the experience.
Speaker 1: I got dope.
Speaker 2: That's dope, that's legendary.
Speaker 1: It was crazy.
Speaker 4: I I just I'm blown away that you guys came.
Speaker 4: He man, like, I'm really so ecstatic and happy because
Speaker 4: guy's a legends.
Speaker 1: Man. Thank you guys are out of this fucking world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, accoladesia things that you've done in this and the
Speaker 4: fact that you came to drink Champs and he's gonna
Speaker 4: drink Japanese whiskey with me and I.
Speaker 2: Did not know you was Japanese.
Speaker 5: By the way, there is there any hip hop artists
Speaker 5: past and today actually both that you you guys would.
Speaker 2: Love to like do a collab with.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so many, so many will give me
Speaker 1: like a top five listen, Yeah, my top five of
Speaker 1: what comes to mind? Uh, beast Boys comes to mind?
Speaker 1: Wu Tang comes to mind. Kendrick Tyler Tyler the creator.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, Andre Andre three thousand, Wow, Yeah Andre. I
Speaker 1: most recently Andre like came I was on. I was like,
Speaker 1: just I had it on random in my phone and
Speaker 1: that's this Andre song with Rick Ross came on. I
Speaker 1: don't remember what song it is. But Andre's verses like,
Speaker 1: it's so crazy is that one that ends with that?
Speaker 1: The fan comes up and it's just boring, boring really
Speaker 1: like the whole idea being he pours his heart into
Speaker 1: these verses and then doesn't really care.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, one of the all time.
Speaker 5: He's incredible. No, I really seen Andre playing the flute
Speaker 5: by himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you actually witnessed him in physically in Brooklyn. Nah, sold,
Speaker 1: did you ask for a female female artist on my list?
Speaker 1: Let me, I should put a female artist, Like, that's
Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair. Well made you add to femal
Speaker 1: well to the group. If I made a female only list,
Speaker 1: then it would be let's oh, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: Well let's just say female rappers, because I'd put I
Speaker 1: put I put Lauren near the top. Yeah, actually I
Speaker 1: loved Digga dude. You know, yeah, Jean Gray, I could
Speaker 1: hear Jane Gray. I like that.
Speaker 2: Really, So, who is the top five female?
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is not this is not my
Speaker 1: top five ever. This is just like just comes to mind.
Speaker 1: I remember what. I also remember when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I heard Queen Latifa for the first time. I was
Speaker 1: she's so confident and she's not like selling sex and
Speaker 1: she's not selling that. She's like a real I don't know,
Speaker 1: she felt like a like a yeah, she felt like
Speaker 1: a role model.
Speaker 2: That was three she is.
Speaker 1: Where are we at rod Digga? Oh? Yeah, she was?
Speaker 5: Really I think I can hear you for lol so
Speaker 5: que for lower Hall?
Speaker 1: What about that? What's the other two? Allien girl? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think it's bas isn't it.
Speaker 2: I should have said said she's Andre two.
Speaker 1: Thousands of she's crazy.
Speaker 5: She's Andre meets title the Creator, but better as a
Speaker 5: as a female. You know, like, yeah, I like that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I agree with you. Yeah, I agree with my my
Speaker 5: my friend event totality. That's a big word for me
Speaker 5: to use. Spell it never.
Speaker 1: But right here us for right he owes one more
Speaker 1: two more more more female?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Who with Joe. I have to look at my phone.
Speaker 1: You got start your list. I feel by like hard
Speaker 1: Driver is like, yeah, it's Radio range because I love
Speaker 1: Lady of Rage who wraps? Yeah, he's dope? Are you
Speaker 1: googling ship now? I'm just looking at my this is
Speaker 1: my playlist, like it's not a real Okay, I got
Speaker 1: all kinds of playlists. Who's new? Like?
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's a ton of doble artists that
Speaker 2: we're not thinking of right.
Speaker 1: Now, many so many.
Speaker 5: I feel like there's a lot of good ones of course, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 5: you gotta pick.
Speaker 1: What you want. Those just dope. What do you think? Joe?
Speaker 1: What do you talk about? Who? Who do you want to?
Speaker 4: Lots of y'all. I just wanted to throw this out there.
Speaker 4: It is also a great coffee shop, Mike and Joe's.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, wait, I.
Speaker 2: Want to go to Michael Joe All that a cup
Speaker 2: of Joe? I want you gotta go turntables there too.
Speaker 2: It's got to be like a high five, like it's
Speaker 2: a spinal bar. Yeah, that's a coffee shop.
Speaker 1: I want to go.
Speaker 2: I'm in let's go. You want to take a drink to?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I want to take a drink to that, Yes,
Speaker 1: so I got.
Speaker 2: A poor again guy.
Speaker 1: Man, did see the line that people are you don't
Speaker 1: get to drink right my drinks already?
Speaker 2: No bro, you're not ready man, A right, no problem, bro, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just came from Tampa doing five ka.
Speaker 5: He ran all the way from Tampa and then you
Speaker 5: got a right here what you got?
Speaker 1: The running thing is crazy? You know. I wish I could.
Speaker 1: I Like you, remember you said the thing about being
Speaker 1: allergic to cats.
Speaker 6: I grew up with asthma. I was super allergic to cats.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: You were allergic to running. I'm allergic.
Speaker 1: That's about taking his answer. That's much funnier I had.
Speaker 1: I had like asthma all the time. So like running running,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's like you the harder, the guy with
Speaker 1: the used to be opposed to be. But I've got
Speaker 1: like scar tissue in my lungs. So like breath control
Speaker 1: on stage, damn is a thing. I always have to
Speaker 1: be very how I'm doing in terms of like I'm
Speaker 1: in my mind as I'm performing, I'm thinking like, okay,
Speaker 1: am I am? I running on empty a little bit?
Speaker 1: Like slow down a little bit so you have enough
Speaker 1: to you versus where it is blank. That's your okay,
Speaker 1: all right, but it's it's super good for as.
Speaker 2: Super that's what they said. It cures as well.
Speaker 1: Here's it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, man, don't don't us appreciate you
Speaker 4: brothers for coming here. I appreciate you brothers for doing this.
Speaker 4: I'm going to take another shot with you. Okay, this
Speaker 4: is Japanese whiskeys. Do not know that you are Japanese?
Speaker 4: Japanese you know that this is a slang. It's a yeah,
Speaker 4: why have you been to Japan?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm assuming you have, but like how is
Speaker 2: like have you followed your roots in Japan? Like do
Speaker 2: you have family that?
Speaker 1: It's funny, I've never been to this the town in Korea.
Speaker 1: I've never been to the town where I don't even know.
Speaker 1: If I didn't, I knew this town where my family
Speaker 1: came from, which is it's down He's mister, by the way,
Speaker 1: I love when I grow up.
Speaker 2: I love. Wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my family is from down South, which is more
Speaker 1: close to there Miami literally literally yeah, the it's more humid,
Speaker 1: it's former like fishing villages and stuff like that. That's
Speaker 1: where they were from. I haven't been there. My brother,
Speaker 1: a brother. He went down there, told me everything is okay.
Speaker 2: I was number one in in ok Now for seven years?
Speaker 1: What they called me?
Speaker 2: Wait what number one?
Speaker 1: I was?
Speaker 2: I was what song? He's saying what song?
Speaker 1: What? What? What? What?
Speaker 5: From that until was it because of the military base
Speaker 5: or was it the local population?
Speaker 2: That's a great question, you know that.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, Okinawa, that's a big US military base.
Speaker 2: You know what, that's a great question.
Speaker 4: And you know what, people that's traveling outside of the
Speaker 4: US that you still want.
Speaker 5: To actually be a part of the US. All you
Speaker 5: have to do is tap into the fucking military, which
Speaker 5: is a big problem for over there. Locally, there's a
Speaker 5: big issue. There's there's the issues there with the base
Speaker 5: and things.
Speaker 6: Is a World War two thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't have recently. This is for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like they're trying they would like
Speaker 2: the base to leave. The local population's issues. Get that
Speaker 2: was with the soldiers we played.
Speaker 1: So we played down there. We played down there one time.
Speaker 1: It's really funny to play down there because in Okinawa,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the name of them, but but we
Speaker 1: played near a base and the local Japanese population is
Speaker 1: much shorter than the white Marines or whatever. They are
Speaker 1: like soldiers there, and so the crowd looks like it
Speaker 1: looks like this, like these are the short Japanese and
Speaker 1: to be taller than regular We played that show and
Speaker 1: it's like there's five Japanese people this tall, and there's
Speaker 1: one white guy that's this tall, and it's just the
Speaker 1: entire crowd. You got these white heads like sticking out
Speaker 1: because that's that's who lives there. It's like all these
Speaker 1: Japanese people who are shorter and then white people who
Speaker 1: are taller. There's a funny show in Korea. Have you
Speaker 1: have you?
Speaker 2: Have you guys had a chance to play, like yeah,
Speaker 2: we just.
Speaker 7: We played Korea last October, right, that's part of our
Speaker 7: launch hitting into many places and different continents around the world.
Speaker 1: And then we just played two nights in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: And you have been able to follow your roots and
Speaker 2: like go to uh no, not too deeply.
Speaker 7: Most of my family moved to the States, so you
Speaker 7: got no family with or nothing, just some distant relatives.
Speaker 1: He's American, dude, what do you what are you to
Speaker 1: do right now? Listen? I went a cube, I followed
Speaker 1: my roots it's hard for me to go to Africa.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry too, Ferto Rican. We don't even know where
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: It's called.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 6: It was funny when we were talking about about super Thug.
Speaker 5: Really, what was your what was your so? What was
Speaker 5: your experience with Pharrell? How did that unfolded? I love
Speaker 5: how you switched it on me. I respect you so much.
Speaker 5: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Because now that I've had so much historical moments in
Speaker 4: my life, I could actually see one of the early ones,
Speaker 4: and I could see how I saw it that day.
Speaker 2: Pharrell was destined to be who is going to be?
Speaker 1: Is going to be Chad? You going as well? But
Speaker 1: when he gave me that CD and.
Speaker 5: He said, don't listen to this ship until you get
Speaker 5: to Miami, and I did it, and I said they
Speaker 5: can't hotel.
Speaker 2: When I listened, I just knew.
Speaker 1: That life. I just knew it.
Speaker 4: I just heard it, and I wrote this ship immediately,
Speaker 4: and I went right back to New York Right Track
Speaker 4: Recording Studios, forty seventh Street. Believe Madison, I don't. I
Speaker 4: don't know if it is. And I went and I
Speaker 4: recorded that whole track straight but.
Speaker 2: You got it in Miami, right to beat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Because the reason why I say is because I always
Speaker 5: wanted to.
Speaker 1: Get Miami is no no no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5: Sonically, when he came out with Super Thug, we hadn't
Speaker 5: met yet.
Speaker 2: No, no, I did because I met you. I met
Speaker 2: you was on the CNN run.
Speaker 5: But still when he came out with that record, the
Speaker 5: bounce on it felt very Southern, very relatable, very like
Speaker 5: that bounce like, it felt that bounce was there, and
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that's not coming out of New
Speaker 5: York and and he was doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I live in the South, so you're one.
Speaker 1: I have a funny. I have a weird I think
Speaker 1: the first time I ever like so we we going
Speaker 1: way back to like the first record. It was probably
Speaker 1: before we ever got signed. We're probably just doing demos
Speaker 1: at this point. My friend, do you remember buzz Tone Records? Yeah?
Speaker 6: So I had a friend who worked at buzz Tone
Speaker 6: and he invited me to a couple.
Speaker 2: Of sorry, you just got a shot.
Speaker 1: I got a shot. It's just like just because let's
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm in.
Speaker 1: To buzz town calling them people bro and dude. For
Speaker 1: a whole week, we land and grow. I can't tell
Speaker 1: if you're if you're from l A or if you're
Speaker 1: just like a millennial. It's like Jen Alpha, I let
Speaker 1: christ you gotta work for the roll and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I've been white for a week.
Speaker 1: I've been full flazed.
Speaker 5: White, full fledged all right, So okay, so I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: So we were we were not signed or whatever, just
Speaker 1: like trying to get experiences and my friends said, come
Speaker 1: to this video shoot just for fun. And I think
Speaker 1: the first one I went to was a funk dubious
Speaker 1: shoot do with was in the was the feature with? Yeah?
Speaker 2: They had this random bab pop that wasn't on their
Speaker 2: album though I think it was was it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was at the video.
Speaker 5: Shoot for Poppy Chulo, but that that record albums though,
Speaker 5: I was like, is and Corrupt was so was one
Speaker 5: of those season that time like coming out.
Speaker 1: So I did. I went to that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, Chris can I got it like any other Later,
Speaker 1: I was like, any other video shoots coming up that
Speaker 1: I could go to, and he said, yeah, he has
Speaker 1: one for the Alcoholics coming up. I was a big
Speaker 1: alcoholics fan, so he's like, you know, Lincoln Park had
Speaker 1: kind of started happening, and so he's like, can you
Speaker 1: get can we get? You got the dude from the
Speaker 1: singer from this band called Deftones that we love Chino
Speaker 1: was gonna be in it. We got you And he's like,
Speaker 1: have you heard of this student named Pharrell? And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I think so. He was kind of
Speaker 1: newer at the time, like I wasn't super familiar, and
Speaker 1: so there it's a super weird track. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's still like if you could put up
Speaker 1: pull it up on YouTube or Spotify or whatever. But
Speaker 1: on YouTube you'd see that the video had a cameo
Speaker 1: by me. I think there was somebody else and Chino
Speaker 1: from Deftones and Pharrell playing as the house band at
Speaker 1: this like frat party that Jay Row and Tash are
Speaker 1: like rapping at. It was the weirdest shit, Like even
Speaker 1: this here here come out of my mouth, I'm like,
Speaker 1: who fucking who put this together? Like if you did
Speaker 1: this ten years later, it'd be like a very expensive video.
Speaker 1: But at the time everyone was just kind of like
Speaker 1: starting to like their careers were all started, except for
Speaker 1: the Lecks, the legs were all already established. That's why
Speaker 1: that was their song. You guys ever did anything with
Speaker 1: the Alcoholics? No, No, I don't think i've even that day.
Speaker 1: I didn't really meet. I think i'm that.
Speaker 5: I think I talked to for Like, can I connect
Speaker 5: y'all for future? I mean, because is on it right now?
Speaker 5: He's killing it really. Yeah, they're coming out with the Doggs,
Speaker 5: coming on a new album. Like I would love to
Speaker 5: connect y'all. I love the alcoholic Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I have so many notes, but I know you guys
Speaker 4: got a flight. Look, I haven't thank you. I really
Speaker 4: want to thank y'all because think about it, we're all one.
Speaker 4: I love doing these type of these type of interviews.
Speaker 1: I love. I love, like, you know, connected with people
Speaker 1: that don't know that we're connected. And I want to
Speaker 1: thank you once again. Man gave them their flowers.
Speaker 5: Take these great pictures, right, and if you want to
Speaker 5: take us some champagne whishes, I'll take some champagne.
Speaker 1: Take some champagne. Sorry, singer Emily's birthday coming up tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so we'll take some.
Speaker 5: I don't know if she'll drink it, but shout out
Speaker 5: to shout out a little man, yes, yes, yes, please you.
Speaker 2: Put it in your luggage. Luggage oh so out? Okay,
Speaker 2: well Lincoln motherfucker park makes some everybody here has memory.
Speaker 2: Thank you, fellow, Thank you so much, Thank you.
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