1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman The Pot 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, The Pot Brothers 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: at Law. It's Mark and I again holding down the ford. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I hope you guys are having a great day or 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: night wherever you're at listening to this wonderful podcast anywhere 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: on this beautiful globe that we live on all around 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the world. Yes, indeed, if you ever want to be 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: a part of it. Eight eight. That number again is 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred nineteen eight. Don't worry, Mark, you don't have 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: to say it any brewe today you're looking for find 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: out where you're at. Yeah, and thank you for following 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: us on Instagram or all social media. You see the 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: website at Cannabis Talk one oh one, at Pot Underscore 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Brothers Underscore at Underscore, Law, Marks at wash Law, Craig's 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: at wash Law, Dog Blues at one, Christopher Ripe and 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm at Joe Grande fifty two and right before we 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: started the show, Mark, you actually brought up a question 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: and we were mentioning it to Pit as we were 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: talking about blocks being mistreated and um African American community 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: being you know, criminalized more with cannabis, and then we 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: were like, where was that at when we talked about it, 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: and we were like throwing cities around, and it's just 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: such a damn shame that it's just so everywhere. Yeah, 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: we were talking about upstate New York. But the article 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: that I'm sure you read that ironically just read earlier 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: today too, was in d C. But it's also in 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It's also in uh picked the state. And 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: I acted like when I sat here when we were talking, 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: I grabbed some dice and rolled the dice and I 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: went picked the city, and you know, and Pit just 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: sits there with this look like, yeah, you ain't telling 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: me nothing new, right like? And I get it for him, 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: and I get it for me to knowing that, you know, 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: we as minorities get treated so much worse. And the 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: article and the d C one was pointing out how 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: you know they're decriminalizing it, but yet the people that 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: are still being arrested for it's are in these are 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, the quote unquote word urban communities. They're talking 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: stupid word public consumption, you know, and the people being 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: arrested for it, and the people being arrested for the 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: public consumption while everybody's doing it. But the majority of 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: the smoking well black, it's not okay, and it's just you, 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the thing that gets me is 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: when folks out there act like this ship isn't real, Like, 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: what do you mean, why is the BLM moving? You know, 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: on the political side of all the other crap, what 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: do they mean? There's not that bad. It's not this, 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: it's not Come on, people, open your eyes and probably 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping most people listening to this podcast we're 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: not even really speaking to, but hopefully you can speak 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: to the other ones that don't understand it, because I've 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: had some dialogue with folks out there that act like, 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think, oh, is it that bad because 57 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: of the bubble in which you know, I'm living in 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: and th Orange County that you know, and I had 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: to explain exactly that. I'm like, I think it's because 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: of where we live, Like you don't think it's that bad, 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: Like where are you from? Have you lived in these neighborhoods. 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: You have folks and friends that you grew up with, 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: Like I can tell you a story after story growing up. 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: What's happening of course, you know in in my life now 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: where my wife and kids and I'm not hanging out 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: with the homies as much where I'm getting pulled over. 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: But I mean I probably roll the dice to say, 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: if Pitt and I went to lunch together, you know, 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: and either one of our cars we might get look 70 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: that kind of funny, you know. I mean, it's just 71 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: something that happens all the time that if you think 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't, your your heads in the sand. I mean, 73 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: you've got numbers like this where they talk about in 74 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: d C. Where cannabis arrests have declined by a path. 75 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: They've declined, but you've got of the arrest still in 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the and they make up of the city's population, so 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: they make up less than half of the popular nation. 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: But a cannabis right, right, and it's all it's all 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: cannabis related related crime. And they said when I was 80 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: reading it, it's because we've been giving calls in these 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: areas that we have to go to, and because we 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: go for the call I'm sure the call is it's, hey, 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: my buddy's smoking this. People are smoking weed over here. 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, they're getting called for maybe a domestic violence, 85 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: maybe a fight. Maybe that's exactly what they're saying that. 86 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Advocates said that the police still focus on cities poor, 87 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: mostly black neighborhoods because that's where officer deployments and investigations 88 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: for violent crimes are concentrated. So that's where that's where 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: they're deploying them. And so I'm going there for you know, 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: violent crime. But I see you smoking a joint, Heiza Kite, relaxed, smiling, 91 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: being good to the neighborhood, and you're getting arrested. Screw 92 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: what I came here for. I have an arrest to 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: get and that's what I'm doing. And now we're making 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: our money and reaching our protocols right and and in 95 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: d C they can use the odor of burning cannabis 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: or street sales to pat people down for weapons and 97 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: do warrant checks. So you know, they're just they're just targeting. 98 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: It's it's systemic targeting. That's what's going on. I would 99 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I would say, and it's just, uh, it's so irritating 100 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: to consistently see new things that pop up on a 101 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: daily and then I just revert back to thinking of 102 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: our president just recently when he was in a town 103 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: hall and he's like, what do you mean there's racial tension? 104 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there's racial tension. I certainly don't have 105 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: any racial tension towards everyone. Was a quote that he used, Oh, 106 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, makes you don't if that's what you're gonna say. 107 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: If you're I've had my air quotes in my hand. 108 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: But what do you mean maybe there's racial tension? And 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there is. And you have numbers like 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: that that are in d C right next to you, 111 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: that n of African Americans are being arrested for freaking cannabis, 112 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: let alone New York, every other state the numbers are 113 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: still higher than anybody else. Well, now listen to this 114 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: when they now we're talking about these low level cannabis crimes, 115 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: right possession, smoking in public, and what's happening. As they've 116 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: done a review of a hundred of these cases, charges 117 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: are often dropped, or prosecutors negotiate plea bargains with probation sentences, 118 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: or when defendants outright refused taking a plea. Some cases 119 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: are just abandoned and they don't even prosecute anymore. What 120 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: does that even mean? Abandoned like that, they just they 121 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: just drop it. You know that means means it's it's 122 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of left on calendar. Uh, it's missed, and then 123 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: it just sits there forever and nothing happens, and they 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: abandoned the case. So does that stay on my record 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: as as far as I was arrested for this, but 126 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: yet it was abandoned, it still show up. I've never 127 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: encountered that. So here in California, if a prosecutor did 128 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: that on one of my cases, I'm moving no emotion 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: to dismiss you know which I would imagine these other 130 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: attorneys in other states would probably do the similar thing, 131 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: because abandoned, like you said, what does that mean? Just 132 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: what you said, it needs to be dismissed doesn't show up. 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't care how much you're looking into my history. 134 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: And we can do we can file emotion for failure 135 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: to prosecute and and get a case dismissed. But it's 136 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: just insane that they're going through the trouble, the time, 137 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: money effort to arrest people for these crimes. And then 138 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: they're not even being prosecuted at the end of the day. 139 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: So you know, all that all that craps got to change, 140 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: you know. And then you have Texas. Texas law unintentionally 141 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: caused cannabis arrests to drop in the state. Now you're 142 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: familiar with this. We got the Austin familiar with the 143 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: Austin Police Department will no longer site or arrest people 144 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: for small possessions of cannabis. Police Chief Brian Manly as Austin, Texas. 145 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: That's a big motion and move. He wrote that in 146 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: a July memo, and the it essentially decriminalized possession of 147 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: cannabis in the city, but only the city because the 148 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: state it's not well in Texas with it the essential decriminalization, 149 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: it's not decriminalized, but by virtue of the police chief 150 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: saying we're not making any arrests, then you know, that's 151 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: another form of criminalization. Is a great move in the 152 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: right direction out there in Texas. I like this. Cannabis 153 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: possessions were already starting to decline between twenty and twenty nine. 154 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Listen to these numbers. Let's see about sixty three thousand 155 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: cannabis arrests were prosecuted by the state in two thousand eighteen. 156 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: In two thousand nineteen that dropped to forty five thousand. 157 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: And these declines are associated with the hemp legalization in Texas. 158 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: Now we've heard a lot about this confusion and everything 159 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: going on. THHC rich cannabis remains illegal in the state, 160 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: but similarly between the plants, the similarity between hemp and 161 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: cannabis with th HC have caused massive confusion among the 162 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: state police. They don't know what's what, they don't know 163 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: who to arrest, or they don't even have the right 164 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: companies to come out there and test it. There's nothing 165 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: to even come out there improved, which you know, somebody 166 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: out there in Texas let alone anywhere you could claim 167 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: quote unquote it's hemp and let them do the work. 168 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Oh well, dah, I thought I was going to and 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: more more more often than not, the cops are just 170 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: making the arrest like we've seen with our guys in 171 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: in New York Green Angel CBD and they had all 172 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: their hemp confis took him a year and a half 173 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: to get it back at all. That and that's because 174 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Texas law technically defines cannabis as anything that has point 175 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: three th HC that caused the dominoes to fall when 176 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: back in February, Texas crime Labs announced that they would 177 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: stop testing suspected cannabis in low level possession cases. They 178 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: didn't want to waste their time, so so now they 179 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: have nowhere to test anything. So accordingly, the state prosecutors 180 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: began dismissing possession cases without lab reports that proved th 181 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: HC was present. Don't you wish that was the case 182 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: for your pro bono? Damn I wish they did. And 183 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: what's crazy about all this as you look at all 184 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: these numbers and that it's it's their declining, but it's 185 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: still Texas is still one of the worst places to 186 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: get caught with cannabish because you can still get a 187 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: felony for just having barely anything. And we can get 188 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: busted with a with a good strain of CBD. Yes, 189 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: you canrab some oils and be like, oh no, I'm 190 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: asked out. Yes you know, and and and it's time 191 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: it's time to uh change the law you've got. Heather Fasio, 192 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: director of Texans for Responsible Marijuana Policy, says that it's 193 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: time to change the law and stop all of your 194 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: rest for cannabis possession and all the cannabis crimes. You 195 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: know what, you do a better job than with news 196 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: and your brother does well. Thank you. You know. I'm 197 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: gonna come back and I'm gonna go green, and I'm 198 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna go Who's making waves, And we're gonna show you 199 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: when cannabis goes bad. I want to show you how 200 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: Mark and I could just hold it down all the time. 201 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Let's do it. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. Welcome 202 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: back to Cannabis Talk one on one. It's Joe Grande 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: and my brother from another mother, Mark Washerman from the 204 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: Pop Brothers at Law, Craig and Blue are out for 205 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: the day. Like another saying is that I have to 206 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: I have to steal from our good friend Adam Ill. 207 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: What is it? Stoner from another boner, Stoner from another boner. 208 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: Although you're not a stoner, but you're an honorary one. 209 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: I like that. Actually, you know, when I think about 210 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody about, you know, me smoking weed. 211 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: Actually I was talking to Big Boy of the day 212 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: and he was like, are you're smoking? We did again? No? No, no, cool, no, 213 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: well no, just you know, Randy was like, you're smoking 214 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: weed now. Joe was like, nah, man, I've been so 215 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: over twenty two plus years. I'm gonna push shot. I 216 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: started smoking six from six, So you got enough time. 217 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's got a good couple of you got 218 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: another new store before I do. I have one more. 219 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna I love how this one ends. You're gonna 220 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: love it too. Happy ending? No, of course not. I 221 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: like happy ending. So a bill to improve medical cannabis 222 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: research Clear's House panel. Oh yes, I've heard about this. 223 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: The House Committee on Energy and Commerce approved the bill 224 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: this week that seeks to improve and accelerate research on 225 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: medical marijuana in the United States. The Medical Marijuana Research Act, 226 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: introduced by Earl Blumenauer, is a bipartisan piece of legislation 227 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: that tackles the inefficiency of current cannabis research in the 228 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: country on several fronts. Now, this is different from the 229 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: More Act, which we've talked about before. This bill would 230 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: streamline the elaborate and lengthy process of obtaining a license 231 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: to conduct cannabis research. Furthermore, it would help provide cannabis 232 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: researchers with better quality cannabis, which is a major sticking 233 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: point in current research efforts. Researchers in the US currently 234 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: have access only only to cannabis grown at the University 235 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: of Mississippi and run by the National Institute on Drug Abuse, 236 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: whose crops have been described as subpar by scientists. The 237 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: only existence for researchers they I thought they had a 238 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: big deal going on with San Diego State University or 239 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: till Ray was bringing cannabis over for research from Canada 240 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: to that's kind of this story says it's only out 241 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: of the University of Mississippi. So is that And I 242 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: know you're just reading and getting the article, but I'm 243 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: just wondering if you touched on that as far as 244 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: is that all research, and that is that what I'm 245 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: gathering from the United States is coming from only access 246 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: to cannaby. Well, it's not that the research is being 247 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: done there. That's where the cannabis. I get what you're saying, 248 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying. I was confused on that 249 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: because prior research that I've looked at, I've heard, for instance, 250 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: the story that I know you're familiar with as well 251 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: with San Diego and uh til Ray till Ray bringing 252 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: cannabis from Canada, and we were all shocked that they 253 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: were even able to do that. We're like, hell the 254 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: hell there? Oh, in the name of research that bring 255 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: across country lines, that alone state lines, right, which still 256 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: sounds kind of it's still we're still how you doing this? 257 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: But so, the bill's future remains unclear, as no plans 258 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: have been announced to even bring it to the legislation 259 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: to the House. However, the House will vote on the 260 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: More Act Bill, which we know is you know, gonna 261 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: pass the House, and then, as it says here, although 262 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: the fate of this particular beer bill, particular bill appears 263 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: clear as Senator majority Mitch McConnell has been unrelenting in 264 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: his opposition to take up cannabis legalization, so we know 265 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: it will go to the Senate floor to die. It 266 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: always does that, right, just sitting there going why does 267 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: it always just die because of McConnell, mcconnald's Can he 268 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: just pass something like this? That just seems like, well, 269 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: how can you wheath like that? How dare you can 270 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: he passed this? You know, as we talk about the 271 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: government and federal government, they want to actually start using 272 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: what they already have been unreliable hair drug tests. Have 273 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: you heard about this story here. Federal agencies are saying, 274 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, bottom line is that they're unreliable. And but 275 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: and because the process can return a positive result months 276 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: after drug use, it's not a reliable indicator of impairments. 277 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: So if your employer you go to get a job, 278 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: you know you could sit there and go, Okay, they're 279 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: gonna cut a piece of your hair, which has happened. 280 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I remember once trying to get a job, and uh, 281 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: I failed the drug test. But I did smoke right 282 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: before it, but it was a hair one which I deserving. 283 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: Lee so did But if you did not, and you 284 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: did it a few months before that, you know this 285 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: is unreliable. I mean, studies have shown that the hair 286 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: drug testing results are influenced by hair color because darker 287 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: hair absorbs more drug metabolics than lighter hair colors, and 288 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: the results of the test can be unfair biased against 289 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: members of the black and Hispanic communities. There it is 290 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: again even more so on an irandom there is a 291 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: random like how Blacks and Mexicans once again get the 292 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: shaft on some ship. That's like, how do we even 293 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: did because of our hair? Damn? I just got my 294 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: hair twisted I'm trying to smoke, and I'm just trying 295 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: got my hair cut short. Whereever happens like you, I 296 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: can't even go in there with a fade and take 297 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: a little piece off the top, thinking that I'm gonna 298 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: be okay to shave it all off exactly. Well then 299 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: they go for the lakes it all off there and 300 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: they're just right by the star. Pull a few of 301 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: those off if you didn't cut those ones, because I'm 302 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: gonna search your body till I down you got some 303 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: hair in the cracks back the exactly get my ear 304 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: hairs or something. But it's just crazy to think though, 305 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: as we think, as we talked earlier in the first segment, 306 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: the mistreatment, but now not only as you mentioned federal government, 307 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up this story. There's another fluke way. 308 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: This was a fluke way in my opinion of how 309 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: US minorities get screwed because of the color of our hair. Now, 310 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, and testing for for cannabis and somebody's system 311 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: is just so stupid and what what was it going 312 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: to tell you? Because of how long it stays in there, 313 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: and because of what we know and about what we 314 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: know about active th HC and carboxy th HC and 315 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: all that everything and it has and what kind of 316 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: jobs now are really testing for that? Still we get 317 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: calls from people all the time that I got I 318 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: got tested and I got fired. What can I do? Sorry? Nothing? 319 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yeah, it's it's happening all over. And 320 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: what's worse is you have someone goes out and gets 321 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: drunk last night, comes still hungover, probably a little drunk, 322 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, no, no one's gonna 323 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: say anything, you know, but you do a test and 324 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: you come out positive for cannabis at the point last night, 325 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't spend drinking all night, threw up 326 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: ship my pants, resting myself then, and I'm going to 327 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: work the next day and hey, Larry, oh there's Jimmy 328 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: c your party with him all night again. Up, yep, 329 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: there we go be twelve shot and I'll be okay. 330 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: You know, as we mentioned that people being fired for that, 331 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: I got a story right here, a military school dean 332 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: fire after using cannabis for what to treat his cancer. 333 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: Let me tell you a little bit about this guy 334 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: that you may think, oh my god, Henry Carr was 335 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: as his name getting fired as the game and bullshit 336 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: is what's written all over. Why he's a Vietnam veteran, 337 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: a career educator at an elite military training school, now 338 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: finds himself resorting to a Reagan era executive order in 339 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: hopes of clearing his name. Vaping a non psychoactive form 340 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: of cannabis to treat his prostrate cancer is why he 341 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: did it. The man Henry Combs, was seventies seven years old, 342 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: was forced out of his job last month as dean 343 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: of the academics for the Air Force Special Operations School 344 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: at Hurlbert Field near Fort Walton Beach, a position he 345 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: had retained since two thousand nine. A twenty tier year 346 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: a twenty two year military veteran with two master's degrees 347 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: and a doctorate and administration of higher education. The retired 348 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: Air Force captain, that's right, an Air Force captain, was 349 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: issued a notice of removal in May for his use 350 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: of cannabinoid CBD Jesus Schedule one controlled substance. I cannot 351 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: believe this right here, you guys. And it's not like 352 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: he was even sitting there smoking joints. And even if 353 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: he was, so, what this action will become a permanent 354 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: part of your official personal folder for his military folder 355 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: as well. Hours before his scheduled termination, Cobbs filed for 356 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: retirements in order to retain his benefits. Sad, it's it's 357 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: it's criminals beyond it's criminal. When you're looking at a 358 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: guy with those his credential credentials that I mentioned, it's 359 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: he should be put on a path. He's certain whatever 360 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: you want. He's a Vietnam veteran. He fought for our country, 361 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: risked his life, and he's probably risking his life being 362 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: the dean at the school nowadays. Two there's a double risk. 363 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: For God's sakes, he hasn't even stopped fighting the war. 364 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: This dude's out there just serving, serving serving. He gets 365 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: prostate cancer and goes, let me try to treat my 366 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: prostate cancer the best way I can. And the folks 367 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: out there, and where the hell is he living at 368 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: again in good old Fort Walton Beach said, you know what, 369 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: this is illegal here. You can't do that. You can't 370 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: treat yourself medically for your prostate cancer with this type 371 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: of treatment and have this type of job. This is 372 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: no psychiatric high and not that even that really matters. 373 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: I could see if he was maybe sitting, not that 374 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: I could even see it, but I mean, God forbid, 375 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: let him be smoking bongs on freaking TikTok or something. 376 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Let him be and blowing 377 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: it by the kids something ridiculous. We're like, Okay, that 378 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: guy's an idiot. You know what, guy was trying to live. 379 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: What's really horrible about this. You have a guy here 380 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: who's his record speaks for himself for itself, right, and 381 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: that wisdom and knowledge that he took to be the 382 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: dean of a school that he could pass along to 383 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: all those kids and teach all those kids, and give 384 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: him all this this wealth of information and knowledge that 385 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: he can master degrees, a doctorate, and administration. It's ridicular 386 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: education twenty two years. And then what are we gonna do? 387 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Joe a retired Air Force captain all for using cb 388 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: D c b D and not only WHOA you know 389 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing it. The guy has cancer. It's 390 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: okay to keep giving him these pills, though, huh, these 391 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: pills that may or may not help. That's okay. Radioactive, 392 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: that's okay, do that, but don't take a matter of 393 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: fact when you come to the school. I don't care 394 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: if you're the dean and you can't even stand, you 395 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: can't even think straight. So what if the treatment's messing 396 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: you up? You could still be the dean. Yeah, you 397 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: could still be the dean and throw up in the corner. 398 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: Come back. In fact, here's a here, here's the bottle 399 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: of whiskey to take that help you to take the pills. 400 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: In the whiskey, come to work. Don't take the CBD 401 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: is gonna help with your nausea, getting the infection of 402 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: all this other thing. Don't take that. And now that 403 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: you did take it, you're fired. And the military's gonna 404 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: hold it against him after everything he's done, the service 405 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: to the country. But that's you know, we we hear 406 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: it all the time, how our country treats a lot 407 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: of our vets, you know. And and this is just 408 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: another shining example of just playing wrong, just wrong. Period. 409 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: It's just wrong. You know. I can't even wrap my 410 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: head around it so much, so I got to take 411 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: a break. I'm getting piste off. Happier story or something els. 412 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one with Mark 413 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: and Greig Poplar's Laude Blue and Joe Grande, and we 414 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: want to thank Pitt, Peanut, Jennifer and Elvis for helping 415 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: this show come all together. And Joe, we going green, 416 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: you know what, before we go green, and I don't 417 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: know if we're gonna even have time to go green. 418 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: I really want to talk about something that's gonna make 419 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: me happy. Although the story about technology and cannabis would 420 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: make me happy, we had other story that we just 421 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: did right now about the you know, man getting fired 422 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: for using cannabis after serving so much for the country 423 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: and students and you know, families abroad. I want to 424 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: talk about something that's gonna make me smile, and this 425 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: is the bar Mitzvah training that your son's going to. 426 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: Even when I say it, it makes people laugh. And 427 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Why is that the case that 428 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: if I say bar Mitzvah training, even though you said it, 429 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: and at first would you put it in the group text, Dog, 430 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: I thought you were joking and so so now that 431 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: I know you're really not joking, now I really want 432 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: to talk more about it because I don't understand. We 433 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: didn't have Keen Signeta training from my sisters and aunts 434 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: an feaz We didn't have total training. You know what 435 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I didn't know barn Mitzvah training was 436 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: a Catholic Christian exactly know what I say? So, bar 437 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Mitzvah's your thirteenth birthday? Correct? So very similar to Mexicans 438 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: in Kensing yet As and all this other good stuff 439 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: and Blue partner is blue? Are not Blue pit? Does 440 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: the African American community have anything like that growing up? Word? 441 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: We have the Kensing yet As. I don't remember any 442 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: of my black folk friends having something where it was like, 443 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, June teenth was just something that we celebrate 444 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: in June. But you know it wasn't like an individual 445 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: bar mits for training Keatson yet Uh you know what 446 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean? Did y'all have anything growing up like that? Well? 447 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: Celebrate birthdays? Days were the worst days? Now we sip champaigne. Yes, 448 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: it's a religious based right, so yeah, explain, explain a 449 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: little bit more. What is this bar mitzva trade show? Mark? 450 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: By the way, what's going on is we were actually 451 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: recording this a little earlier than normal time. That's why 452 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: Blue wasn't here at the beginning. And now he's here 453 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: now and so then Blue was like, oh, I'm sorry. 454 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not late, marks, like I really got 455 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: to go to bar Mitzva training And I'm like, so 456 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: you're serious, Like that's where I was tripping tool. I 457 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: don't know why I thought it was a joke. I 458 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I was waiting for like the what was 459 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: the set up? And I just got the punchline, like 460 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to bar mitzva training for my son. So yeah, 461 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: so my my my son, Mason, he's he's eleven now, 462 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: and when when you're gonna have your bar mitz two 463 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: years of training? Yeah, it's two years of and he's 464 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: going to uh Hebrew school and meeting with the rabbi, 465 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna have he has to learn 466 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: Hebrew because they have to watch like Schindler's List and 467 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: Fiddler on the Roof, or do they have to watch 468 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: certain movies although jazz singer, I may have him watch 469 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: those movies, but that was not part of the curriculum 470 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: for the bar Mitzvah. It's it's learning the Hebrew and 471 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: then most importantly, reading a specific passage that picked out 472 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: for you from the Torah, from from the Bible, from 473 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: the book. So it's kind of like your second comedian, 474 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: Like the Catholics are the first comedian, secondian, and in 475 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: the Jewish community and the Jewish faith, at thirteen, that's 476 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: when you become a man. That's when or a woman, 477 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: that's when you become adult. And that's in Israel that 478 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: you go into when yeah, I remember that just when 479 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: she went to the army training, everybody goes in. What 480 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: she said, she thought it was it was probably the 481 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened to her at thirteen years old, 482 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: which I thought was I mean, I was just like, 483 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: but that was almost thinking she was going to say 484 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: the opposite to Blue, you know what I'm saying. I 485 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: was like, I was waiting for her when she was 486 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: like set up the it was she wants to send 487 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: her kids from the United States to here to go there, 488 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: and then would your wife allow that? So how does 489 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: your wife feel about that? As your wife's Filipina, and 490 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: you know it's a Catholic Catholic, so it's it's you 491 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: know a little different honoring the other side and what 492 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: we what we decided when we got married and we're 493 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: having kids, we decided we were going to expose our 494 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: children to everything both sides and let them make up 495 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: their minds, you know. And so Mom's side this is Christmas, 496 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: and Dad's side, these are the ones that killed Jesus. 497 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: Jesus was a Jew and the Jews killed him that 498 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: there's recent evidence to suggest that it was Actually I'm 499 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: just going off the movies. I apologize if I was wrong. 500 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm just being sarcastic. Of course it was the Latins, 501 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: so the Mexicans and Israel, dammit, the cartel. My my 502 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: oldest son, who's now going to be sixteen, he decided 503 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: to have his bar mits when he was eleven. He 504 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: decided he wanted to do it, and so he did 505 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the training too. So he did it. And now my 506 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: middle son decided he wanted to do the same. And 507 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: we had long talk with him that you know this, 508 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: it's not a joke. You know. It's a whole language 509 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: and all kidneyside albis aside, you know, me and cultural things. 510 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: I really love the fact that you're doing this, like 511 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, everybody that we interview from the cultural spectrum. It. 512 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: I love when you represent your culture. Now, that's true. 513 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: I really love it. Now, do you feel like he's 514 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: an adult to when he's at age? Yeah, when he 515 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: when he becomes no, no, no, that's a good one. 516 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: That yeah, no, no, because he has a medical condition 517 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: and he needs it. You know. That's different. It's not 518 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: about it's not really about doing those quote unquote adult things. 519 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: It's about taking accountability and your actions and cleaning his 520 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: room and doing all the ship that we tell you 521 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: to do on a timely matter, and realizing the things 522 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: you do affect other people, you know, And it's it's 523 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: it's a two year process. Of two year process. Yeah. Yeah, 524 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: because he's start he's eleven and he's going to be 525 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: going through this training for the next two years. Going 526 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: to school, is being with the meeting with the NOSI. 527 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Did you did you guys do it to you? And 528 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: I did? Brother kicked out, my older brother did it, 529 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: and I did it. Craig did not do it. He 530 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: was he was the rebel. When you were saying that 531 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: right now, I was like, damn his his son does 532 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: not look there. I was like, you know, on my mind, 533 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking, dude, he's a late bloomer. You know, 534 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: I like kids, part of my ignorance. But does your daughter? 535 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: Can your daughter do it as well? It's called a mitzvah. 536 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: Now what's funny is my wife said, well, our daughters, 537 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, having the cotillion, you know, the whole Filipino 538 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: And that's when eighteen I believe And I said, you know, 539 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: that's great. And just the other day my daughter, well, 540 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: they both did it. I might want I want to 541 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: do it. I want to have so she I. My 542 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: prediction is she's going to do both. Yeah, and not 543 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: only that. She's a party or she wants to dance 544 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: at both events. She's a little mark of the party 545 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: for me. She already she already wants to do a 546 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: dance routine. Of course, my I did one last time. 547 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: She wants to be it and do it. You're a hero. 548 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: I love it. It's it's something that's really nice. My 549 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, my both my parents, well my mom my 550 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: dad's an atheist. So you know I could tell you that. 551 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: I could tell you he's an atheist. Oh no, no, 552 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: Look on a second, your dad, Mr Writer, Mr Einstein 553 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: looked alike. Mr won't do the protocol SR. Hold on 554 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: a second into it yesterday, Shut up. We've been following 555 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: this last few shows. Blue you missed it. Hold on 556 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: a second, I gotta catch up. On this. Your dad 557 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: has got hooked. We hooked up Benny with Joe from MJ's. Well, 558 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: remember I remember they had a zoom call. They had 559 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: the call yesterday. I don't I don't necessarily want to 560 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: stick anything in my rectum either, So you know, just 561 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: just when people start giving suggestions like that, you might 562 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: just sometimes be like, it's not the only proto. You 563 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: could just do the CD and the rub on. Well, 564 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't like getting things and unlabeled bottles and things 565 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: you know that aren't out there and studies, test and trial, 566 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, And you got something sent to him in 567 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: the mail with a bunch of stuff unlabeled, And I'm like, Dad, 568 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: I just gotta trust us. We're not We're not. We 569 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't send you what do you think we're doing? Can 570 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: I have it please? I'll use it all. Well, no, 571 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: he wants to package it up and send it back. 572 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: I haven't even Well, so wait, so it's not over 573 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 1: yours on it. Let's put stickers on it for it's not. 574 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Because he said he wanted to box it up and 575 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: send it all back. And but then I got him 576 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: to make a phone call and I haven't talked to 577 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: him yet. But he was supposed to make a phone 578 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: call to the other to the other guy who had 579 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: prostate cancer, which is what he has, who did the 580 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: protocol and is in remission. I said, at least talk 581 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: talk to this guy before you shut everything down. Please please. 582 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: And then I said, and I said, I said, don't 583 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: do this to your grandkids. You want to be more 584 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: mist He got passed that didn't like your brother on 585 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: the call, and he my dad doesn't want me to 586 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: tell my brother. Never call your brother right now and 587 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: tell him on the air we call and I call. 588 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: Unless he talked to my dad. I don't think he knows. 589 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he knows um. And I sent my 590 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: dad the number yesterday to the other guy. So I 591 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: haven't talked to him yet. I'm hoping that he at 592 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: least talks to him and he can hear firsthand. No. 593 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I love but know they mentioned 594 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: the butt to you know, yeah, hey, That's what I'm saying, 595 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: Like you know, your we're men, you know, you're like 596 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: you know you want to do you up there to 597 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: clean it out when you're wiping your and I get 598 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: it cleaned out in up there. You don't rub it 599 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: all around it, you rub it in it. Okay, that's 600 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: new for me to. I mean I go around it 601 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: and over it, but not in it. You know, you 602 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: know I don't start diving in everybody. Here's Craig's number. Yeah, dang, 603 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: let's see what Joe hasn't tell him. Hey, Craig, I 604 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: just want to let you know you're an asshole for 605 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: avoiding my call twice. But you're gonna text me right 606 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: after this, probably have a great Dame Vegas. Damn, she 607 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: always text me. Sorry shut out. I was at the bar. Yeah, 608 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: exactly two drinks in that's why am Yeah, he's sleeping. 609 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: Actually yesterday morning when I did text about started texting 610 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: about six thirty in the morning, though, well, he texted me. 611 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: You know what was it? What did I see? A 612 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: straight flush? A four of a kind? Still, so, how's 613 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: your brother gonna take this? What does your gut say? 614 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna be forceful with my dad, I think, 615 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: and try to, as I did, try to convince him 616 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: to give this a try him, tell him, look, don't 617 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: don't rub it, don't put it in it, just rub 618 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: it around it. So let me lay this dynamic and 619 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: have two lawyers sons that are the quote unquote pop 620 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: brothers at law. You have an another son who's a 621 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: very worldwide uh you know, doctor, the doctor. He's the 622 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: real one. I mean, he's not thinking about cannabis, but 623 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: he's a doctor. And I'm wondering, now, what would he 624 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: say to your dad about it? He's he is supposed 625 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: to talk to our brother again, which I said, I 626 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: don't know why you need to do that. You just 627 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: need to listen to me and Craig and trust us 628 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: the two O three two three. Just trust us. I mean, 629 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: there's so much anecdotal evidence that Joe brings to the party. 630 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: I think that it can't hurt him though he's so 631 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: that's why you have the go go break it down 632 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: to is pops. You know, can cannabis kill you know? Okay? 633 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: Can see what these kill? You know? Okay, will you 634 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: do me a favorite and try it? Because it's not 635 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: gonna hurt you or kill you, so you can only 636 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: make it. What don't hurt or kill you can only 637 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: make you stronger. So if you utilize those things and 638 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: you kind of position it like that to people, and 639 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to do that while you're having battle 640 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: of conversation. And because you're you're you're one of two things, 641 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: one of your son, so it's battling like I own you, 642 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're my boy. Don't say you've 643 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: never yelled at me before on the flip side of this, 644 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: so you're ready for that. He's what eighty something, he's 645 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,959 Speaker 1: eighty six years old. He's going, you know what, shut 646 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: your and mouth. I'm eight. Not only I do what 647 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: I want. I don't want to have to live my life. 648 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: I canceled the chemo, I canceled my medication take, but 649 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: I canceled every three hours. I have to do this 650 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: every two hours. You know, there's the protocol. Right. We 651 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: had that conversation and he said that, and he said 652 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: that I don't I don't want to do it. Why 653 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you. I just don't want to. 654 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: I hate those answers. That sounds like my old Today's 655 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: my dad's birthday ironically too, and I'm like, yeah's birthdays 656 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: two days ago? Really? Yeah? Yeah? I got some old 657 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: school pictures of my dad with his sideburns and me 658 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: as the kids growing up, look at pops and I like, there, 659 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? We gotta post. He looks 660 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: just like original. But my dad used to say something 661 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: like that. Flip too. You'll see a few other ones 662 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: of us. WHOA, I needn't have to show me that, Joe. 663 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: That's not my dad. That's my mushroom head, your daddy. 664 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: Is that your grandma? No, that's that's my dad with 665 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: my daughter, my oldest daughter. He was a yeah, bought 666 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: lost both of his legs. You're head in that direction. 667 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: Huh oh, thanks appreciating. Keep smoking. You'll join your father too. 668 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: I quit. Where is that va I just seen? But 669 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,479 Speaker 1: it's crazy to think about your dad like that, though, Mark, 670 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: because that's at old school mentality. Yeah, you know, I mean, 671 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: we're a lot of these cats. Don't do that. Do 672 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: as I say, not as I do. I'm not gonna 673 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: do why because I said so. It's like what you 674 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: you often reference. You offer in reference. I know I 675 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: can take to advil for my weight and this, you know, 676 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: you know he wants he wants that right and and 677 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: and as I try to explain to him. Unfortunately, because 678 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: the medical industry and and and science never got into 679 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: the endocannabinoid system that's recently here, this is what we 680 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: have your doctor brother might not even know enough of it. 681 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: And but I bet you he'll have a strong, strong, 682 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, opinion on what he thinks and it probably 683 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: won't sway in the same direction as Craig. And not 684 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: only that the man not maybe not that it's influencing him, 685 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: but he's not this young cut. But even though he's 686 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: engages in some cannabis here and there, and so does 687 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: your mother, which is awesome, but not to look at 688 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: it as quote unquote real medicine. Like we've been seeing 689 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: too much talking to doctors too much. We see so 690 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: much from sitting at this desk, and we're like, dude, 691 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: this is the real deal, folks. Work. It goes back 692 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: to the simplistic form. Guys. If our country is one 693 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: of the most sophisticated countries in the world, there's no 694 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: way in hell that we would say it has medicinal 695 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: value and put it out to the whole country and 696 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: state by state it changed. If it truly didn't period, 697 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: that's a great point. There's no way, there's no freaking weight. 698 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: It's great great would we would never never great statement, 699 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be essential, would never do that. We're not 700 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: alcohol isn't medicinal cocaine isn't medicinal, you know what I mean, 701 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: although it might be soon all night, but but you 702 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 1: know again, Yeah, yeah, I've already got we got the yacht, 703 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: I've already got the mushrooms. You know, live on mushrooms 704 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: dot com. What I mean, like you shoes might be 705 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: the next one though, that's the thing I owned live 706 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: on mushrooms dot com. So we're gonna do a whole 707 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: thing where we take mushrooms and just record people. Library 708 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: to come out twenty two years Ober. Here I come, mushrooms, 709 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: medicinal m If you need him, I think they could help. 710 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you keep seeing research on the picture. The 711 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: picture I've seen wasn't. No, it didn't look too good, Joe. 712 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: And the last time I took some mushrooms it wasn't 713 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: from medicinal. Boy. Ive seen little soldiers walking on my microwave. 714 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: I was so twisted like a law school trying to 715 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: grab it. And Craig just responded, in the middle of 716 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: a meeting, thank you, crais of meeting, and then yeah, 717 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of a crap shoot meeting. Yeah, that's funny, 718 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: that's funny. He's in Vegas I'm in a meeting. Well, 719 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: good luck with your dad, man, I can't believe. I 720 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: feel like, well, I'm hoping that the conversation with the 721 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: other patient who did it and it worked changes his 722 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: anecdotal out of it. I mean, you know, that's all 723 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: I can hope for. And you know, I want to 724 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: I want him around. Well he dude, you know, I'll 725 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: tell you what. He'll live My dad by twenty plus years. 726 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: So I mean we're like, yeah, very very My mom 727 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: was fifty two. Yeah, I mean, your dad's gonna hit 728 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: ninety ninety plus. You know which is I mean and 729 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: and and and that's a blessing. So you know, keep 730 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: going doing whatever you're doing, Pops, I mean ship you know, 731 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: because well, do whatever you're doing. But not once you 732 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: get diagnosed with cancer and my pasta size in his bone. 733 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: It's already in his bones. Yeah, I mean, it's going 734 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: to inspine it on. It's everywhere. Oh yeah, he's just 735 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: trying to live a good life. And God bless you, 736 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: and we love you either way, but yeah, we love you. 737 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: Do you do what you want to do, you know 738 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. But it's hard. It's hard to wait. Wait, 739 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: Like you said, we know. That's what makes it extra 740 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: hard because we've seen it firsthand with kids with you 741 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: tell your daddy needs to do it strictly from the 742 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: show standpoint, Yeah yeah, get him on the show, bring 743 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: him on. So so Mark all, my dad's all. My 744 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: dad's way out, dude, you know what I mean. I 745 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: sat there and it was like, you can't be eating 746 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: these foods because the moment I felt on my dad 747 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: had cancer, like when I really knew he had cancer 748 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: because they I think I might have cancer, I gotta 749 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: go check it out. It was kind of like whatever 750 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: was kind of real possitive, and then all of a 751 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: sudden it was like we found out, like, oh, like 752 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: you really got cancer going and because he didn't tell 753 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: us to tell it was already he went through chemo 754 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: and he was already you know, bald and ship. I 755 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: was like down, like what how do you come from? 756 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: What happened? I'm locked in. He was like, you know, 757 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: looking at me like, oh, we got cancer. But by 758 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: the way, and I'm like damn, like you couldn't have 759 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: told us, bro, Like what the funk? Like you know, 760 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: I was hurt, you know, several people to do that. 761 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't want it. He didn't want to burden us. 762 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 1: You know, he has the stress on it, which was cool, 763 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: but not really. And then and at the same time, 764 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, all of a sudden, I'm 765 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: trying to do a crash course on how to you 766 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: know people that cure it in the other countries? You know, 767 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: how how can you know people? Because you got real serious, 768 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: you know, looking at him, like real serious. And so 769 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: I was finding people in Mexico that, you know, they 770 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: can cure it, that that have you know, cured it 771 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: multiple times. I mean thousands and thousands of testimonials of 772 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: people that are saying that they've it's been cured. You know, 773 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: I've got this, you know, Hispanic lady down the street 774 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: like we can go there, or you can go to 775 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: Israel and do it, or you can go here and 776 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: do it. And it's like, where do you want to go? 777 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, ship, Mexico's close. Let's let's go 778 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: to Mexico. You know. And long story, short though, is 779 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 1: is that you know I was, you know about alcal 780 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: line diet. You know, don't you don't drink any you 781 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: don't eat sugars, you can't eat fatty foods. You know, uh, 782 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: you know it lives in mucus. So in order to 783 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: to to kill the mucus off in your body, you've 784 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: got to do this. And you know, he was like 785 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: the bird was high in the air. Face. He was like, dude, 786 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: give me a twe give me a cigarette, and give 787 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: me a tweaky, give me a cigarette, past me a 788 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: soda and roll yeah. I mean literally we were literally 789 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: at the hospital. He was like, rolled me out and 790 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: smoke a joint. And I'm like, Dad, I can't even 791 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: pick you up right now. It's like, get me on this, 792 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna smoke a joints. Not I'm gonna smoke right here. 793 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna kick me out. You know. I'm like, okay, 794 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: I literally you know I'm there. I'm calling three of 795 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: my boys, you know what I mean to get down 796 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: there to pick my dad up. He's screaming while we're 797 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: picking them up with sheets and putting them on a 798 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: wheelchair and and drag him outside to smoke a joint. 799 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: And I mean all the way today at the very end, 800 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: when he couldn't even move his body, bro, he was 801 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: he was he said, put literally put he couldn't even 802 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: move his body he could do ready talk. He would say, 803 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: just put it to my mother, let me let me 804 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: hit that, let me hit it, let me hit a 805 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: cigarette or a joint, put just put it out. I 806 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: mean it was that serious. Man. I was like, Holy funk, 807 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,439 Speaker 1: I gotta stop smoking because that it's a commitment. At least, 808 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: it was that serious. When you're gonna bring Benny, I 809 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 1: will talk to him today. Yeah, I'm hoping he talked 810 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: to that guy. It's tough to talk about two man. 811 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: I hope that. Well. Will he come in here with 812 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: us the world to talk about brother, might have to 813 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: ambush him. We might have to, Hey, come to the 814 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: let's come see us today. Yeah, just come upstairs, say hi, Hey, 815 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: sit down here for a second. Yeah, sit down here. Yeah, 816 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: put these headphones. Bring Joe to and have Joe. No, no, 817 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: she would bring other patients in that same We wouldn't 818 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: know where exactly. Yeah, it's gonna just have to be 819 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: when we'll see let me I'll keep you posted, let 820 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: me find out. I'm curious to hear how his conversation 821 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: goes with the person who actually had the same thing 822 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: he did, who did it? Thank you? It's a hard 823 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: one as we follow your jazz journey because you know 824 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 1: it's a tough call. We know the results. It's gonna 825 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: tell him to day I let it out. We've been 826 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: following it anyways. It was all on the show. You've 827 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: been told them, you've been talking about, step by step 828 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: what he's been doing. Oh hey, Benny, thanks for listening 829 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: to the podcast. Obviously you don't right. It's Cannabis Talk 830 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: one oh one Blue tell him, Hey, if no one 831 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: else loves you, wa do. Thank you for listening to 832 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I Heart Radio app, 833 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.