Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm
Speaker 1: Rachel doing a solo episode today, but we have two
Speaker 1: amazing guests, the iconic twin duo Emily and Haley Ferguson. Guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having Yes, thanks for having us. It's been
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: It has been four years since we have had you
Speaker 1: guys on a.
Speaker 2: Bachelor podcast, but that is crazy long time.
Speaker 1: Which is so insane. Was it clickbait that you guys
Speaker 1: think you were on?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And a lot has changed since. Oh yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot has changed since then.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get all the updates because you
Speaker 1: are both pregnant. Congratulations, Thank you. What has that been
Speaker 1: like being pregnant at the same time together.
Speaker 3: Well, we've always dreamed of being pregnant together, so this
Speaker 3: is the first time I feel like we've officially been
Speaker 3: pregnant together. But other pregnancies we kind of were, but
Speaker 3: like only for a few weeks, so we're notorious for
Speaker 3: just switching off pregnancy. So one twin is pregnant while
Speaker 3: the other isn't, so it's so much easier to tell
Speaker 3: us apart. And I feel like as we've gotten older,
Speaker 3: we start to look more alike. But the only way
Speaker 3: people can tell us apart now is if oh, one's
Speaker 3: pregnant and the other isn't.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Has there been anything that has surprised
Speaker 1: you about this journey you guys have been on together?
Speaker 2: Surprised us?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that, I mean I think that what
Speaker 3: maybe is surprised us is how like crazy you kind
Speaker 3: of become when you're a mother, Like you like your
Speaker 3: instincts just change, like you're like so maternal and I
Speaker 3: don't know, and like Haley and I, well we've always
Speaker 3: been homebodies, but now with kids, we just don't. We
Speaker 3: really don't leave the house. So I really have kept
Speaker 3: us home, which I love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame you guys. And during the summer
Speaker 1: as well, being pregnant, I feel like I would just
Speaker 1: be suffering.
Speaker 2: Oh girl, I am. I'm ready for this child to
Speaker 2: be out of me.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also like like literally yesterday it was one
Speaker 3: hundred and three degrees in Vegas and I was like,
Speaker 3: it feels like you're burning in hell. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't remember for Vegas actually being a hot as a kid,
Speaker 3: but here we.
Speaker 1: Are a hundred. That is absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2: It is nuts.
Speaker 1: Okay. So, Hailey, you have been incredibly open about your
Speaker 1: fertility journey, and I know that so many people listening
Speaker 1: and watching have been able to relate to you. What
Speaker 1: is it outside of what you've shared that you think
Speaker 1: people might not fully understand about what you went through?
Speaker 2: Gosh fully understand?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, like just how exhausting it is
Speaker 3: to go through the whole IVF process because you're at
Speaker 3: the doctor's office like every other day, getting ultrasounds, injecting
Speaker 3: yourself with different medications, tracking everything like cycle wise, like
Speaker 3: just to make sure everything's lining up.
Speaker 4: Hanley, I just want to jump in and say I
Speaker 4: went through a massive IVF journey and I remember following
Speaker 4: along specifically with everything you were posting. So just like
Speaker 4: on behalf of somebody who didn't know what they were
Speaker 4: doing when they got into it, I just like, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get I get so much because I shared,
Speaker 3: specifically on my TikTok a lot of videos on like
Speaker 3: injections and like how to inject and what worked for
Speaker 3: me and what didn't work for me. So a lot
Speaker 3: of people still go back to those videos to learn
Speaker 3: how to inject themselves with some of the medications going
Speaker 3: through ive YEF. But I think like just the process
Speaker 3: of being at the doctor's office and how mentally draining
Speaker 3: and exhausting it is getting your blood drawn all the
Speaker 3: time to make sure your levels, or like I remember
Speaker 3: sitting and like waiting for those calls from the doctor,
Speaker 3: and whenever the doctor calls, like you see their name
Speaker 3: pop up on your phone and your stomach instantly drops,
Speaker 3: like is this good news or is this bad news?
Speaker 2: And I've been on both ends of that, getting good
Speaker 2: news and getting bad news. So it's just it's it's
Speaker 2: mentally really exhausting.
Speaker 1: Has your platform helped you with all the support of
Speaker 1: women who have also been through this journey.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I was so inclined to share
Speaker 3: my stories, because I've had so many people reach out,
Speaker 3: and it makes you feel not alone, because when you're
Speaker 3: going through that, you feel so alone. You're like why
Speaker 3: is this happening to me? It's like whoa?
Speaker 2: Like you kind of like WHOA is me? Like why
Speaker 2: is this happening to me? Why me?
Speaker 3: Like why is it so easy for everybody else to
Speaker 3: get pregnant? So it's like actually so reassuring to kind
Speaker 3: of hear from other women going through it and having
Speaker 3: similar stories and similar outcomes, or like I remember when
Speaker 3: I was going through like I was going through cycles
Speaker 3: and my uterine lining kept getting too thick from the medications,
Speaker 3: and so I went on my stories and I was
Speaker 3: like asking people if this happened to them, and then
Speaker 3: they would tell me what, like what worked for them,
Speaker 3: and then it ultimately ended up working for me too,
Speaker 3: to like not take all the medication. So I did
Speaker 3: like a natural modified cycle this time around, and it
Speaker 3: worked so much better for me.
Speaker 1: That is amazing. I feel like I don't realize how
Speaker 1: much I rely on everyone. Like you could just post
Speaker 1: a story and they give you the best advice and
Speaker 1: I don't even have to go searching.
Speaker 3: It's a social media has it has its pros and
Speaker 3: calong but like sometimes like especially like looking through back,
Speaker 3: like looking back, like looking at other women who've gone
Speaker 3: through IBF. I love to look at their stories and
Speaker 3: see what worked for them. So it's like that's one
Speaker 3: of the plus sides of social media.
Speaker 1: So beautiful as twins, you guys have really gone through
Speaker 1: so many milestones together. What was it like with one
Speaker 1: of you being going through an infertility journey?
Speaker 2: And the other not Well, I guess that's something you
Speaker 2: could talk about.
Speaker 3: I imagine that it was probably hard because I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people think that it was really tough
Speaker 3: on me that like she would get pregnant naturally, and
Speaker 3: she get pregnant really quickly, but like, honestly, to me,
Speaker 3: like knowing what I know now, how difficult it is
Speaker 3: to get pregnant, like pregnancy is like getting it's a miracle,
Speaker 3: Like honestly, it's such a miracle. And I was obviously
Speaker 3: so happy for my sister because I know that's what
Speaker 3: she wanted. And I think it's the hardest part is
Speaker 3: seeing so many other people like post their announcements and
Speaker 3: like share, because you get so excited to like I remember,
Speaker 3: like getting pregnant, be like, oh my gosh, what am
Speaker 3: I going to do for my announcement? I'm so excited
Speaker 3: to share this news. And so I know, like when
Speaker 3: it's time to announce that how exciting it is for people.
Speaker 3: But like it's simultaneously like feeling sad for yourself, like
Speaker 3: because you're not there yet.
Speaker 2: But I think opposite, dream, I think it's harder for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was it like for you?
Speaker 3: I get, Yeah, I felt guilty for sure, because it
Speaker 3: just didn't seem fair, Like why would I be able
Speaker 3: to get pregnant but she wouldn't work twins, We've literally
Speaker 3: like everything should be the same everything, it shouldn't be
Speaker 3: so hard.
Speaker 2: But then I guess, like if.
Speaker 3: You factor and like everything, like your partner and everything, like,
Speaker 3: there's so many factors.
Speaker 2: That come there with infertility and it's not.
Speaker 3: Always just the woman, Like I know that people always
Speaker 3: assume it's the woman, but it's not always the case
Speaker 3: in that for infertility. But yeah, there was definitely like
Speaker 3: a lot of guilt, but I know that Haley was very.
Speaker 2: Supportive, and I just I guess I didn't feel like so.
Speaker 3: Bad because I was so happy. Yeah, those are my nephews.
Speaker 3: Like how could I be sad about having a new
Speaker 3: nephew come into me? But it put in it does
Speaker 3: put a light, like shed a light for me, like
Speaker 3: how like difficult infertility is and for other women who struggle,
Speaker 3: So it just makes me. Yeah, I think that women
Speaker 3: who probably get pregnant naturally and know someone who struggles
Speaker 3: with infertility feel a sense of guilt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, were there ever any other emotions that you had
Speaker 1: to hold back? Like feeling excited for something.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say so, but I would.
Speaker 3: I would always feel like whenever I felt ready for
Speaker 3: another baby, I'd be like, no, let's let Haley get
Speaker 3: pregnant first, and then I'll wait to get pregnant because
Speaker 3: I talked about getting pregnant at the same time for
Speaker 3: so long and we're like, Emily, but it's like I
Speaker 3: don't get that luxury, Like I.
Speaker 2: Don't just get to be like, oh, I want to
Speaker 2: try to get pregnant, you know. So I think like
Speaker 2: when we were talking about it, and we were.
Speaker 3: Talking about it this second time, I didn't have as
Speaker 3: much pressure on myself because I already have my beautiful daughter,
Speaker 3: and so I I think this time around, it was
Speaker 3: like a little easier to like kind of talk about
Speaker 3: getting pregnant at the same time, but you.
Speaker 2: Just weren't quite ready yet. No, you know, then I
Speaker 2: have a third I'm actually so nervous staff at third.
Speaker 1: So you guys just switching off. I love that, Emily.
Speaker 1: How did you support Haley during a time while also
Speaker 1: allowing yourself to fully enjoy your own pregnancy.
Speaker 3: I feel like I was just able to support Hailey
Speaker 3: so easily because she was so supportive of me too.
Speaker 3: But in a sense, I've been to some of her appointments,
Speaker 3: which when you when they and how do you what
Speaker 3: do you call when they put when they transferred lov
Speaker 3: her first daughter. I was there for that, which was
Speaker 3: really cool. And then I think there was a couple
Speaker 3: other appointments that I went to and then.
Speaker 2: Did all of my injections. Oh, I did a couple
Speaker 2: of injections, which I think I did it wrong because
Speaker 2: then the one time is when it.
Speaker 3: Like like I was on a blood dinner, so the
Speaker 3: blood just it was so gross and I was like,
Speaker 3: of course it's me, who does that?
Speaker 1: You were giving her the injection, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Then she's and then I pulled the needle out and
Speaker 3: she's sort of like spraying blood.
Speaker 2: I was like on a blood center at the same time,
Speaker 2: so like it's just yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: But I had wanted to always try an injection on
Speaker 3: her because she lets her husband do them.
Speaker 2: Mostly, and I was like, I kind of want to
Speaker 2: try it. And then of course the.
Speaker 3: One time I try it, it was when that happens, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, so I'll never be doing that again.
Speaker 1: Like a horror movie, just literally splatter the walls. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh.
Speaker 3: But I just think like more like so like the
Speaker 3: emotional support is like just listening to me, letting me cry,
Speaker 3: talk about it literally twenty four to seven, because I
Speaker 3: it's all like, when you're going through it, it feels
Speaker 3: like the end of the world and it's kind of
Speaker 3: just all that's on your mind. So just like letting
Speaker 3: me talk through it with her, like and just no judgment,
Speaker 3: just letting me get all those emotions out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys said that this has always been a
Speaker 1: dream for you guys. Has this strength in your relationship
Speaker 1: even further going through it At the.
Speaker 2: Same time, I don't know if this can get any stronger. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, it's like we're attached at the hip. I'm
Speaker 2: literally with her O all the time. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: would say that it's just cool.
Speaker 3: But I guess you're about to have your baby and
Speaker 3: I'm still I still feel at the beginning. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: bad for her, she's got to go through this whole
Speaker 3: pregnancy thing again. Yeah, Like pregnancy is probably the hardest
Speaker 3: part of it all. Once you give birth to that baby,
Speaker 3: it's like the biggest relief in the world.
Speaker 2: I can't even explain. Oh, happy, like you're healthy.
Speaker 3: You know you're healthy, like you're building your baby like
Speaker 3: it's such a relief.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is so beautiful, Haley, since you were doing
Speaker 4: IVF and you guys obviously have such an incredible relationship
Speaker 4: as twins, did you ever consider implanting two to go
Speaker 4: for twins?
Speaker 3: I never considered implanting too to go for twins, just
Speaker 3: because I'm such a tiny person.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would be capable of carrying.
Speaker 3: That is probably number physically, that is the number one
Speaker 3: question people always ask ask us because we're twins, do
Speaker 3: you guys want twins? And I hurt, like selfishly, I
Speaker 3: don't want to carry twins because with even just with
Speaker 3: our one babies, me and Haley get to so stretched out,
Speaker 3: like like these babies are big and our husbands are
Speaker 3: big guys, so these babies aren't small.
Speaker 2: We don't have small babies.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just like, there's no room.
Speaker 2: There is no room.
Speaker 1: We cannot do athletic twin babies.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, having all boys, I do it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Emily, you're raising all boys, well, Hailey is
Speaker 1: raising all girls. Do you ever look at each other
Speaker 1: and think you are living a completely different life than me.
Speaker 3: Oh, every single day, and every single day. I tell
Speaker 3: her she knows. She comes over here every day and
Speaker 3: she sees the chaos that boys are, and any boy
Speaker 3: mom would agree with me.
Speaker 2: Boys house is larry chaotic.
Speaker 3: And then like even my sister's husband will come to
Speaker 3: my house and he's like, wow, it's really calm here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My daughter's dressed in her princess dress, singing like Elsa
Speaker 3: and frozen and twirling in her princess.
Speaker 2: Gowns, and her boys are like wrestling.
Speaker 3: They got each other and like these like neckholds and
Speaker 3: they're wrestling each other being on top of the how.
Speaker 1: To and see they're jumping off the railing and they're
Speaker 1: doing a tea party. It's like polar opposites.
Speaker 2: It really is. We have different parenting styles too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's it makes sense that I have
Speaker 3: all boys because I feel like I'm a little more
Speaker 3: laid back definitely, and you're very like a little more strict.
Speaker 2: So it does kind of make sense that you have
Speaker 2: girls and I have boys. It kind of worked out in.
Speaker 3: A sense and we get the best of both worlds. Yeah,
Speaker 3: her kids are mine and my kids are hers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you need a little girl time you can
Speaker 1: have it and then give them back. And similarly, I
Speaker 1: love that. Do you feel like it's true what they
Speaker 1: say like being a boy mom and a girl mom, Like,
Speaker 1: do you feel like you embody those characteristics?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I see yourself that I see you as a girl
Speaker 3: and I see you having a boy like I see
Speaker 3: us see us as having both. But I mean I
Speaker 3: feel like now I wonder if people just see me
Speaker 3: as I like fully embraced being a girl. I know,
Speaker 3: and I feel like Ola has to your husband, he's
Speaker 3: like such a girl and I feel like for Will.
Speaker 2: He could be, he could do. I always thought Will
Speaker 2: he was glad. I kind of thought we'd all have
Speaker 2: all girls instead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't see me as a full boy mom,
Speaker 3: but here that's what God wanted for me.
Speaker 1: Speaking of your husband's people see the glamorous side of
Speaker 1: being married to professional athletes, but what is it that
Speaker 1: people don't see?
Speaker 3: Well, he's like especially for me right now, my husband
Speaker 3: has been injured this entire hockey season, so having to
Speaker 3: like be there to support him through injuries, and like
Speaker 3: right now he has a broken wrist and like yesterday
Speaker 3: I needed to massage this broken wrist and get like the.
Speaker 2: Blood flow that it was, like that was really hard.
Speaker 1: To do because these extra duties.
Speaker 3: Freak me out, and I just the swelling of his
Speaker 3: hand is so crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, so like I think, and it's sad
Speaker 2: to watch them like go through injuries and like.
Speaker 3: I think, like to like your home alone a lot,
Speaker 3: you don't get A lot of people don't know that,
Speaker 3: like they are around. Yeah, my situation is a lot
Speaker 3: different than your, but like just in general, like they
Speaker 3: go on these road trips for the hockey, like during
Speaker 3: the hockey season, so you're home alone with your kids
Speaker 3: for days. Yeah, for you sometimes weeks at its time,
Speaker 3: like with no no husband there to support like you
Speaker 3: doing that, so it's kind of a lot of alone time.
Speaker 3: But like for me, the biggest sacrifice I make is
Speaker 3: I live overseas half of the year so I'm over
Speaker 3: in Europe for half of the year during the coldest,
Speaker 3: darkest time of the year. And it's been very mentally
Speaker 3: draining since having kids. So like I've been doing this
Speaker 3: for six hockey seasons now, so I'm feeling ready to
Speaker 3: be done with that. But we'll see what we're life takes.
Speaker 3: But what's this crazy thing is you're about to have
Speaker 3: a baby and he's gonna leave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, week after.
Speaker 3: This baby's wanted to go play and my husband has
Speaker 3: a training camp camp usually August first.
Speaker 2: Her due date is August third, but I'm getting induced early.
Speaker 3: So we're going to have this baby a little early
Speaker 3: and then like a week after he's leaving to go
Speaker 3: play hockey.
Speaker 2: So I'll be taking care of a todd or a newborn.
Speaker 2: Oh bye.
Speaker 4: We love a scheduled induction.
Speaker 2: Love a scheduling. Yeah, I do love a deduction. I'm
Speaker 2: all about inductions.
Speaker 1: How do you guys make it work being long distance?
Speaker 1: Do you have any tips?
Speaker 2: Like, I've just been long distance my whole relationship.
Speaker 3: We spend months apart just because of my husband's career
Speaker 3: being overseas. But like just we have our TV shows
Speaker 3: that we watch together, so when we're like facetiming each other,
Speaker 3: we like always have something to talk about. We are,
Speaker 3: we're talking about our TV shows together. Now it's just
Speaker 3: like with our daughter, Like we just spend most of
Speaker 3: the time on the phone so that he can talk
Speaker 3: to our daughter. And like, now that we're having this baby,
Speaker 3: it'll probably most of our conversations will be about our kids.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just think that like having things
Speaker 3: hobbies together even if you're not together, like so that
Speaker 3: you can talk about them on FaceTime is always good.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned that you are overseas for half the years,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. What has that been like culturally going
Speaker 1: back and forth to a different country.
Speaker 2: I feel people think it's a dream.
Speaker 3: I do think a lot of people look at it
Speaker 3: and like this, she is living the life.
Speaker 2: She is living the dream.
Speaker 3: And in the beginning it was very cool because I
Speaker 3: didn't have kids, like I was able to kind.
Speaker 2: Of travel back and forth a lot more.
Speaker 3: And so we were like, we've been in Sweden, We've
Speaker 3: been in Switzerland, We've been in Finland, like I've played
Speaker 3: in really cool countries, but like we were in Geneva, Switzerland.
Speaker 2: For a while and it was like the coolest experience
Speaker 2: of my life.
Speaker 3: But it takes a toll on your mental health, like
Speaker 3: being over there away from family, I have no support system.
Speaker 3: I'm taking care of my daughter with no support system,
Speaker 3: Like my husband's family is in Finland, so like it's
Speaker 3: I literally it's all all on me. So my mental
Speaker 3: health last season was I took a big dip, and
Speaker 3: I was also pregnant in my first trimester, so it
Speaker 3: was just a lot last year. But I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people think, oh, she's lived that yearal life,
Speaker 3: like she lives overseas and she like she's got this.
Speaker 2: European like life, and I'm like, no.
Speaker 3: I'm living overseas during the coldest, darkest time of the year.
Speaker 2: You don't get to go in the summer. I don't
Speaker 2: get to Yeah, I don't get to go to the summer, Like.
Speaker 1: No euro summer for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's I think the first four seasons were
Speaker 3: a lot easier, but the last few seasons have been
Speaker 3: kind of hard. Well, it's got to be a culture
Speaker 3: shock too when you're from Vegas and like our winters,
Speaker 3: we don't get snow that.
Speaker 2: Cold, but not the not layering up cold like a layer.
Speaker 2: Getting my daughter ready to go out in the snow
Speaker 2: is a whole deal.
Speaker 3: Like it takes me at least thirty minutes to get
Speaker 3: her in her snow suit to just go outside and play.
Speaker 2: For twenty or thirty.
Speaker 3: You send me videos of Ola scraping the snow off
Speaker 3: the car and like warming the car before you guys
Speaker 3: even have to leave, like we would never have to
Speaker 3: do that bag and it's like we have like this
Speaker 3: beautiful home here in Las Vegas, and then like overseas
Speaker 3: is such city life, like you're living in these tiny
Speaker 3: apartments and you're just like, it's just it's very shocking
Speaker 3: to go from one to the other.
Speaker 2: But I will say the.
Speaker 3: Groceries and the food and like the restaurants, all of
Speaker 3: that is plus, like I feel so good feeding my
Speaker 3: kid over there and myself over there versus here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we have seen online that in some Scandinavian
Speaker 1: countries they have their kids nap outside in the cold
Speaker 1: and in the snow. Do you utilize that?
Speaker 2: So it is very common.
Speaker 3: I've actually seen it a lot when I was in Finland,
Speaker 3: where the babies will sleep outside while you're in the
Speaker 3: grocery store shopping.
Speaker 2: They just like park the strollers out there. So it
Speaker 2: is a thing. Would I ever do it?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, But that's just because I'm from the US
Speaker 3: and I just I have trust issues totally.
Speaker 1: People just leave their kids outside like, no worry.
Speaker 2: In Finland, no problem with it. Yeah, it's so common.
Speaker 2: What are the benefits outside?
Speaker 3: Like the benefits are like, well, I think that it
Speaker 3: adjusts their body temperature because they're from Scandinavian countries, so
Speaker 3: it helps them they helps them get into deeper sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they say it helps them get into deeper sleep.
Speaker 3: But also think, like with the when you want them
Speaker 3: to like their sleep cycles, you don't want them to
Speaker 3: sleep in a dark, dark place because well it's dark
Speaker 3: there anyway. So it's still dark out, not dark dark outside, right,
Speaker 3: but it's still like pretty dark.
Speaker 2: But the funny thing is I'm going there this summer.
Speaker 2: We leave in like a few weeks, and it's always
Speaker 2: light out. Yeah, you don't get we never goes down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like I'm gonna have to black out my house
Speaker 2: for the kids, but yeah, like a lot.
Speaker 3: I actually, when I was in Switzerland would put log
Speaker 3: outside for naps outside of our apartment like door. There
Speaker 3: was nobody, like, it was just like outcourse there was
Speaker 3: nobody else there. But I would just leave her outside
Speaker 3: to nap, and she would nap really well out there
Speaker 3: in her like little good nouch Like she would be
Speaker 3: all bundled up and we'd just zip her up and let.
Speaker 2: Her nap out there.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Who do you lean on for support
Speaker 1: when you're out there, because you said it can kind
Speaker 1: of be a little isolating when you're over I.
Speaker 3: Lean on me myself, and I no, it's like it's
Speaker 3: my husband is obviously amazing.
Speaker 2: But he works full time when he's out there.
Speaker 3: So or he's traveling, so you know, like sometimes his
Speaker 3: parents can come and visit and help. But like I
Speaker 3: have tried to find somebody to come and help base
Speaker 3: it my kids or like watch them, or like find
Speaker 3: a nanny, and I can't find anybody to help take
Speaker 3: care of my kids during that hard to find help out.
Speaker 2: There, but so yeah, it's really it.
Speaker 3: All falls on me, and it's it's it's a lot
Speaker 3: differs overseas. There's been like a because of the language barrier.
Speaker 3: I think it's hard most But you've met a couple
Speaker 3: of girls that you've made friends with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I make friends, but like, yeah, it's hard. It's really.
Speaker 1: I mean, you would think even a nanny or something,
Speaker 1: but that.
Speaker 2: I would love if anybody knows like.
Speaker 1: They're hiring. I love it. You guys have both had
Speaker 1: incredible careers, and how is that maintaining your own identity
Speaker 1: outside of your husband's.
Speaker 3: It's been hard since having kids to be totally honest
Speaker 3: to like maintain a career on social media, and social
Speaker 3: media has changed so much since we were on it,
Speaker 3: when since after The Bachelor and when we got our
Speaker 3: social media following, it's changed an insane amount.
Speaker 2: So I can't lie. It's been probably the hardest thing.
Speaker 3: But Haylen, I do love to work and we want
Speaker 3: to continue to work.
Speaker 2: It's just been really hard.
Speaker 3: It's such a hard balance with kids because you want
Speaker 3: to like be in the moment and present with your
Speaker 3: kids and also be like a good wife and be
Speaker 3: present with them. But it's truly probably one of the
Speaker 3: hardest things to balance, and like identity wise, maintaining an identity.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, I like, I feel like we
Speaker 3: do have our own identity, like no matter what, Like,
Speaker 3: I just feel like that's something I never want to lose.
Speaker 3: That's something I never want to like change. I just
Speaker 3: want to beat us. Yeah, But like I guess maybe
Speaker 3: I want to just do see.
Speaker 2: Us as just hockey wives. Now, do you think that?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're like you're a perky twins.
Speaker 3: I don't know, But like when I go to hockey
Speaker 3: game sometime here in Vegas.
Speaker 2: Like people like know me, I watched you on The Bachelor.
Speaker 3: So I kind of feel like the biggest like flex
Speaker 3: we have was just beyond Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that you said the transition was difficult.
Speaker 1: What was that like? So when you were on it
Speaker 1: was it like Instagram was the main platform.
Speaker 3: Instagram was just starting to become really really yeah, and
Speaker 3: like social media influencers had just become a thing. So
Speaker 3: like I mean, fab fit fun and I'll never forget
Speaker 3: those like if I Wear those were like the those
Speaker 3: were like the biggest collabs you could get, and then
Speaker 3: nowadays it's like literally dream brands that are you're collabing with.
Speaker 2: That's it's just nuts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like a lot of people go on
Speaker 3: these shows now and come off with a ton of followers,
Speaker 3: and I honestly feel like that probably is hard a
Speaker 3: hard transition to go from, because like you go from
Speaker 3: like kind of being able to post whatever you want
Speaker 3: and being a little more private with your life then
Speaker 3: going to this like huge following. So it's kind of
Speaker 3: been like it's we have the same followers that we've
Speaker 3: had since Yes, so it's like they've grown up with us, right,
Speaker 3: So it's like it hasn't really changed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like for other people, I feel like it must.
Speaker 3: Be a huge jump, especially like with TikTok now, and
Speaker 3: I know TikTok being like the main platform that didn't
Speaker 3: exist for us, And I feel like social media is
Speaker 3: a hard place for young mental health and young young
Speaker 3: women and young boys too, Like got to be one
Speaker 3: of the hardest things to be really big skin, I
Speaker 3: feel like nowadays for social media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and being a mother is already the hardest job
Speaker 1: in the world, and now TikTok, I feel like, is
Speaker 1: the bigger platform and you have to post so much
Speaker 1: on that. Has that been difficult keeping up?
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't keep up really Like when.
Speaker 1: We post, we post.
Speaker 3: I'm still like and this is probably like the old
Speaker 3: school influencer and me, I'm still a big Instagram girl.
Speaker 2: I really don't get on TikTok. But I think that's
Speaker 2: where we're going wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not on TikTok as much as we are
Speaker 3: on Instagram, but like, yeah, I mean when I have
Speaker 3: time to post over on TikTok, I do, But my
Speaker 3: main focus is always Instagram. Yeah, I just love Instagram.
Speaker 3: I consume most of my content on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Are you like a well, So, I feel like I
Speaker 1: kind of came late into the TikTok world because I
Speaker 1: love Instagram. I love Instagram reels. I scroll on TikTok,
Speaker 1: but I should post more, but like, I just don't
Speaker 1: know how to keep up with it. So I'm learning.
Speaker 2: Once I open my TikTok up, I'm not thinking about me.
Speaker 2: I'm looking.
Speaker 3: I'm consuming every single video that I've been you know
Speaker 3: that's been brought to my page.
Speaker 2: Problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like TikTok is definitely harder
Speaker 3: to navigate because you have to be so consistent.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. You guys mentioned Okay, you're out at the
Speaker 1: hockey games, you get noticed. You guys are Bachelor Nation legends.
Speaker 1: What has the experience of being on the Bachelor given you? Guys?
Speaker 3: I think the experience has given me so much confidence
Speaker 3: and a beautiful life and a beautiful opportunities that would
Speaker 3: have never been given to us, because if we hadn't
Speaker 3: gone on that show, we wouldn't be able to be
Speaker 3: social media influencers because in a world now, we would
Speaker 3: have never able to keep up with what social media.
Speaker 3: And I'm so thankful that I get to work from home.
Speaker 3: I even when I'm overseas, I'm still able to provide
Speaker 3: and help my family, even if it's just a little bit.
Speaker 3: So like that's what's most important to me, and The
Speaker 3: Bachelor has given me that opportunity, and like, I'm thankful
Speaker 3: that I'm still able to do it, even if it's
Speaker 3: not like the highest level of some of these other influencers,
Speaker 3: I still am able to do it. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 3: the greatest job I think in the world. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: just it allows us to stay home with our babies, right,
Speaker 3: and I think being like a mom is our number
Speaker 3: one priority. So it's obvious that our social media slacks,
Speaker 3: but at least we still get to do what we
Speaker 3: love to do, but also be a president moms.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Do you guys keep up with any of your
Speaker 1: friends from the show still?
Speaker 3: I feel like we really only Lauren Lane and Amanda, Yeah, Amanda,
Speaker 3: those are the only two, Like, those are the only two.
Speaker 2: Briddys we've been to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we follow a few of the other girls on
Speaker 3: social media, but like talk wise, yeah, it's probably just
Speaker 3: Lauren Lane and Amanda. Yeah, and they've always been kind
Speaker 3: of our closer friends in general, So that's a relationship
Speaker 3: we've always been able to maintain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to ask, did you ever mend fences
Speaker 1: with Olivia Creedy?
Speaker 2: You really tried? I did try.
Speaker 3: I did try to mend with Olivia, but I just
Speaker 3: don't think she wanted to hear my apology. And that's
Speaker 3: totally fine, And I like, listen, I'm a grown woman
Speaker 3: now with kids, and I regret every single thing that. Like,
Speaker 3: when you're watching our season, Olivia.
Speaker 2: Looks like the villain.
Speaker 3: But then a couple of years later, the plot got
Speaker 3: flipped and then me and I think.
Speaker 2: That you look like a villain. I don't think you will.
Speaker 3: I know, I know we're we're but I think she
Speaker 3: really did social distance herself from a lot of us. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and she really just wanted to focus on herself and
Speaker 3: that's okay. Yeah, but like that was like also ten
Speaker 3: years ago, and I think she, uh, she really didn't
Speaker 3: believe Emily's well and I think she just never got
Speaker 3: over it. But I did apologize to her. Of course,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't apologize. I don't hold grudges. I don't none
Speaker 3: of that. Like, I'm a very like I want to
Speaker 3: mend anything. I'm a very peaceful person. I don't want drama.
Speaker 3: I really don't.
Speaker 2: But yeah, when I was young in twenty two, sure,
Speaker 2: bring on the drama. I got it. Yeah. But now
Speaker 2: I'm thirty.
Speaker 3: Three, so please don't bring on any drama. I don't
Speaker 3: got time for it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of shows, you guys had your own spinoff show,
Speaker 1: The Twins Happily ever After. Well it was your favorite
Speaker 1: part of doing that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, Well, it was the coolest opportunity in the world
Speaker 3: that someone wanted to give us a TV show. To
Speaker 3: be totally honest, like, how us got our own TV
Speaker 3: show is actually like wild because that wouldn't happen to
Speaker 3: a lot of people. No, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun, It was really at
Speaker 2: It was a lot of work.
Speaker 3: And I think when you are filming like The Bachelor,
Speaker 3: there's like, what twenty five or thirty other girls, so
Speaker 3: the main focus is never just you.
Speaker 2: So when the TV show turns.
Speaker 3: To a main focus and you are the main focus,
Speaker 3: it's way harder, a lot harder. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 3: I learned a lot from that experience. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: the best experience, but it wasn't We learned a lot
Speaker 3: from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was hard on us.
Speaker 3: Mentally because we were the main focus because we it
Speaker 3: felt like so much we had to carry a lot
Speaker 3: of pressure. It was a lot of pressure. But what
Speaker 3: it was only like three months of our life. So yeah,
Speaker 3: but like at the end of the day, it was
Speaker 3: I'm super glad we did it, and it was I
Speaker 3: don't think the show did well, No it did not.
Speaker 1: It's that's iconic. You guys got a spin off. Would
Speaker 1: you ever entertain something like that again? Now that your
Speaker 1: mother's and living your own lives.
Speaker 2: I would never entertain something that would make us the
Speaker 2: main focus. Yeah, we would do like Reality Team. I
Speaker 2: would do.
Speaker 3: Reality TV again in a heartbeat, as long as it's
Speaker 3: like in a group of like a group setting, a group.
Speaker 1: Setting, So any type like would you guys do type
Speaker 1: of like wags you like if it followed like multiple
Speaker 1: wives on the Team? Yes, yes, I would love to
Speaker 1: see that someone.
Speaker 3: Do a Housewives of Las Vegas. I just but I
Speaker 3: want to be a housewife. Yeah, sign me up.
Speaker 1: I mean our very own Ashley I is a house Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think we need to make this happen.
Speaker 2: The Las Vegas one for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Las Vegas one.
Speaker 2: No, we actually do that would be a great one.
Speaker 1: Who do you guys think if they were ever to
Speaker 1: do a spinoff again from Bachelor Nation, they should make
Speaker 1: the show about.
Speaker 3: If like someone from Bachelor Nation and they're going to
Speaker 3: do a spinoff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we did another, because you guys, like we
Speaker 1: have not had a spinoff since you guys, who do
Speaker 1: you think that they should follow?
Speaker 3: I have no who's been like married, who's like the
Speaker 3: most recent ones that actually got married.
Speaker 2: I would love to see Kelsey and Joey. Oh gosh, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're so cute. I do adore them.
Speaker 1: That would be a good one. We could get Charity
Speaker 1: and I'd like to see Charity and down in there
Speaker 1: or like following the successful couples.
Speaker 3: I also kind of like just want to see like
Speaker 3: the hot single girls like that are like single and
Speaker 3: not married yet, because like, why.
Speaker 1: No, literally, that's time asking.
Speaker 2: Hard time to be dating. No, this it's really difficult.
Speaker 3: I'm very thankful that I got married when I did,
Speaker 3: because nowadays.
Speaker 2: Dating seems impossible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like all the dating apps and it's like
Speaker 3: everybody you always have the next best thing, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: it's just it's so hard to find somebody that wants
Speaker 3: to like be like so good and like commit to
Speaker 3: one person, even if I feel like people are settling
Speaker 3: down later and later in life, which I don't even
Speaker 3: think is a problem.
Speaker 2: Like, well, we had our babies at thirty, our first babies.
Speaker 2: I think that's the best move we ever did. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, you guys are if you know anyone I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm single. It is rough out here, and
Speaker 1: it's rough going on dating.
Speaker 2: Shows this time. Keep my eyes peeled for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: They Maybe you can move to Vegas and live with me.
Speaker 1: And I can be on the Housewives.
Speaker 2: Yes a plan.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're making this happen.
Speaker 2: You can we can do a wag show.
Speaker 1: Yes, wait, stop even better, don't get my hopes up.
Speaker 2: We'll go.
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm I feel like there's a decent amount of
Speaker 4: wags in Bachelor Nation. There's you guys, Sydney Waridney, Hannah Ann.
Speaker 2: There is a handsful.
Speaker 4: Here we go.
Speaker 1: We have another show, Bachelor Wag.
Speaker 4: I mean this might be a stretch, but maybe even
Speaker 4: Lauren lyindyke if Ari is still racing.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so true.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna set her up so yes, she'll be one. Yes,
Speaker 2: there's plenty of hockey guys. Don't worry, Rachel.
Speaker 4: That's the show. Go to Las Vegas and let them
Speaker 4: set you up with some hockey player.
Speaker 1: You guys, ABC, if you are listening, this is the show.
Speaker 3: Bachelor Hockey Wags, Bachelor Girls turned hockey girl or just wag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. Is there anything you want to
Speaker 1: add before the game?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: And sorry, I've been jumping in so much. I just like,
Speaker 4: like I said before, I just feel like I followed
Speaker 4: along with your guys' story so much. And ironically, my
Speaker 4: sister was pregnant while I was going through all my stuff, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what a small world, sister, someone gets all
Speaker 2: the a I know one of the girls always gets
Speaker 2: to eggs. Yeah, I swear you lost sister and eggs.
Speaker 2: She offered to donate her eggs.
Speaker 4: That's so crazy. My sister did the same.
Speaker 2: And she offered to carry my baby. I would definitely, well,
Speaker 2: thank goodness, you can't go. It's hard to carry.
Speaker 4: My sister said the same thing, and I was like,
Speaker 4: there's no way you'll give me that baby if you
Speaker 4: carry it, Like, I'm sorry, I don't trust you. She
Speaker 4: was also, wait, this is fucking crazy. She's pregnant with.
Speaker 2: Her third No, no way, sorry, so you.
Speaker 4: Have I have two, but I have I have one
Speaker 4: in heaven and then I have two here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear y'all on that one. I lost my
Speaker 3: one transfer. Okay, sorry, my son is trying to Beckham, Beckham,
Speaker 3: can you where do you want to go?
Speaker 2: Real quick? Because mommy's talking on the phone.
Speaker 4: Bring them on, bring the babies out here.
Speaker 2: He's a naked butt though.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, that is the best way to have
Speaker 4: a baby.
Speaker 2: But he just finished his swim lessons, which is truly.
Speaker 4: Like the naked swim lessons.
Speaker 2: While he was wearing swim trunks, but now he's naked.
Speaker 3: But we do the swim rescue lessons and as scary
Speaker 3: as they are.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this little three year old boy, he
Speaker 2: jumps in the pool. He knows how to swim. He's amazing.
Speaker 1: So important to have though, especially if you guys.
Speaker 3: Have a pool, and we do have a pool, and
Speaker 3: it's like the number one thing like she has, like.
Speaker 2: The gates and everything.
Speaker 3: At first I was very against it, but now like
Speaker 3: seeing how amazing of a swimmer he is and how
Speaker 3: if he did fall in he cood save himself.
Speaker 2: Is really worth every penny I could pay.
Speaker 1: All right, we are gonna switch gears and play a
Speaker 1: little game with you guys. It is called would you
Speaker 1: rather Mama? Edition? With Emily and Haley.
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right?
Speaker 1: So, first question? Would you rather get a full night's
Speaker 1: sleep or a full day completely alone?
Speaker 2: A full day completely alone, a full day completely long?
Speaker 2: Do you agree? Okay?
Speaker 1: Would you guys rather lose all your coffee and caffeine
Speaker 1: for a month or lose your phone for a week.
Speaker 2: I would rather lose all coffee and caffeine for I
Speaker 2: can easily do that.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys, I.
Speaker 2: Know I'm addicted to my phone. It's bad.
Speaker 1: Okay. Next one, would you rather relive your child's first
Speaker 1: laugh or their first I love you first laugh?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I would say I love you the first I love you,
Speaker 3: but that kind of happens when there.
Speaker 2: Is for so long?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, my kids do laugh all the time.
Speaker 1: Would you rather let them use an iPad and enjoy
Speaker 1: some quiet time for yourself or just let the chaos
Speaker 1: rite itself out?
Speaker 2: I will? I will.
Speaker 3: I have no shame in giving my kids an iPad,
Speaker 3: so I also are able to enjoy the chaos.
Speaker 2: I've got an embrace there. Yeah, truly. I try not
Speaker 2: to give the iPad, but sometimes you just got to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would be an iPad meant for sure.
Speaker 4: Don't be a haro give your kids the iPad.
Speaker 2: Sure that she would never give her kid an iPad.
Speaker 3: And I always tell like, before you have kids, you
Speaker 3: say these things that you would never do, and then
Speaker 3: you have kids, and let me tell you, you're gonna
Speaker 3: be doing all the things you say you wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be doing when you're solo parenting.
Speaker 1: You got absolutely didn't Toy Story just do their movie
Speaker 1: about the iPad. They won't let moms have the iPad.
Speaker 4: Toy Story is really out here trying to shame us
Speaker 4: iPad mommies.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I have to go see it.
Speaker 1: Dare they okay? Would you rather wear spit up on
Speaker 1: your shirt all day or deal with a poopy dipper
Speaker 1: outside of the house?
Speaker 2: Wear spit up on my shirt all day? Which I do?
Speaker 2: I wear spit up on yours?
Speaker 3: Truly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's easy.
Speaker 1: Would you rather spend an entire day doing your child's
Speaker 1: favorite activity or have them spend an entire day doing yours?
Speaker 3: I would rather do my child's favorite activity. My daughter's
Speaker 3: fun to play dolls and dance.
Speaker 2: But my kids love hockey right now. So it's really adorable.
Speaker 3: So I would love I love you had shared like
Speaker 3: a thing where you like you're taking pictures of her,
Speaker 3: but like you're not looking at the scenery, you're looking
Speaker 3: at her. Yeah, Like it would be so cutethics and
Speaker 3: it's like the highlight of my week.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so sweet. So like gymnastics is
Speaker 1: the thing right now in hockey, that's what they're into.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, Beckham's upset. Well, so was my younger son.
Speaker 2: They're obsessed with hockey right now and it's really really cute.
Speaker 1: I'm sure their dad is loving that a dream.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a spotless house? Perfectly behave children?
Speaker 1: Or ten extra hours in every week?
Speaker 2: A spotless house? What I would give to have a
Speaker 2: spotless house? That would be nice.
Speaker 1: Okay, we only have a couple more. Would you rather
Speaker 1: know exactly who your child will become or be surprised
Speaker 1: be surprised.
Speaker 3: I'd rather be surprised. I love to just see them
Speaker 3: blossom on their Oh my god. Everything about having a
Speaker 3: kid is the best. That's why I keep having more.
Speaker 3: It's hard to getting is.
Speaker 1: It's so sweet, like seeing their little personality start to develop.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you have no idea.
Speaker 3: Like especially my daughter, she was so serious for so
Speaker 3: long and just recently her personality is totally blossoming and
Speaker 3: she's becoming such a different kid really, So it's like
Speaker 3: so amazing, Like she's so smart and she's the best kids.
Speaker 1: So sweet. Okay, last one, would you rather your child
Speaker 1: find love on reality TV or the old fashioned way?
Speaker 2: Love island here they come? No, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: care if my kids want to want to do reality TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously I love the idea of an
Speaker 3: old fashioned like way, but I don't think it will ever.
Speaker 2: Be that way. No, our kids are going to grow
Speaker 2: up in a real crazy worlds. It's going to be
Speaker 2: interesting how people meet in that time, just through social media. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean that's how we met our husbands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if they you know, I'm I'm totally
Speaker 3: okay if they want to do reality TV. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: feel like maybe for depends on the situation. Maybe your
Speaker 3: daughter would be different. But boys, I feel like they're
Speaker 3: they probably don't want to.
Speaker 1: We always say We're like, we can't wait for the
Speaker 1: first Bachelor maybe to be the Bachelor, because it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that will happen.
Speaker 1: It will We have to see whose kid it is.
Speaker 3: It's got to be someone like maybe more of the
Speaker 3: older alumni whose kids are more grown.
Speaker 2: Probably maybe they'll be you to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I always tell Trista, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. We're waiting.
Speaker 2: That would be cute. That be full circle moment, It
Speaker 2: really would.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you guys so much for coming back. This
Speaker 1: has been such an amazing conversation and catching up with
Speaker 1: you guys after all these years. So where can everyone
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