1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Oh, it is a Monday, not just any Monday. There'll 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: be a game seven. Two Monday night football games off 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: a wild weekend. We're live, We're in Chicago. It's the 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Herd wherever you may be, however you may be watching 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: or listening, whatever platform it is. Thanks for making Monday 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: and us part of your day. One hour from now. 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong again at 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Game seventh tonight, Jays and Mariners Seattle trying to get 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: to their first World Series double of Monday night football games. Jamie, 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: really fun weekend, really really good Sunday. You know, we 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: complain that we don't love too money night football games 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: because it takes so many good games out of the weekend. 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: But that late window yesterday was nuts. But let's start 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: with the early window of folks. It's twenty eighteen and 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Again, Patrick Mahomes completed passes to nine different 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: tight ends or wide receivers. Their speed is everywhere, playmakers everywhere, 24 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: thirty two points a game in the last month. I 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: hate to inform the rest of the NFL, but this 26 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: is now once again the best offense, the best coach, 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: the best quarterback, and the most flexible. Eight nine different targets. 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: Some are fast summer possession, some are twitchy, some are 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: big summer tight ends. And the defense is remarkable. And 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Really smart people make mistakes, yeah, but 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: they're able to quickly identify those mistakes. They're able to 32 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: let their ego not get in the way, and then 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: they course correct very quickly. Kansas City, I believe, has 34 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: rebuilt their offensive line three times in five years. I 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: think they've rebuilt this receiving corps four times in maybe 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: seven years. And now all of a sudden, it's the 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: deepest receiving corps in the NFL. And the Chiefs and 38 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: you saw this yesterday with the Rams. Adaptable. They're not 39 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: one thing. Puka Akua is out, No big deal. We'll 40 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: give three or four tight ends a look. And you 41 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: look at Kansas City yesterday, Hollywood Brown, Worthy, Rice, Travis Kelsey. 42 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: I mean, Rashe Rice comes back ten targets, ten targets. 43 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Rashi Rice haven't played in an actual game 44 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: in like a year, and he's throwing no look passes 45 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: to him, and so I don't feel bad for the 46 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: Chargers or Baltimore or Joe Burrow and thes although he's 47 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: hurt this year, you know, all these teams had a chance. 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Kansas City was three and three. They didn't have Rice, 49 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: they didn't have Worthy. This was your time to make 50 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: up ground on them. But right now Kansas City's not 51 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: only back, I think they're better than ever they have 52 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: drafted so well. This is the deepest, twitchiest, most unique 53 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: wide receiving corps, the best play designer, the best distributor. 54 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: I watched yesterday, and I mean it was like Mahomes 55 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: was in a baseball cap in the fourth quarter. It's 56 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: like they pulled their starting pitcher after a great two 57 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: hitter and he had a six run lead in the 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: seventh inning and he sat in the bench the dugout 59 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: and watched. But I don't see a hole. I said 60 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: this a month ago when they clobbered the Ravens. Everybody said, oh, 61 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens are beat up. That's not what I watched 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: right now. They're just they just keep adding elements. And 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: I saw it with the Rams in Jacksonville. The smart 64 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: teams in this league. They miss on draft picks, they 65 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: make mistakes, they get players hurt, they have two and 66 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: three game slumps, but they course correct, they identify mistakes quickly. 67 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Smart wins in this league. And I saw it in 68 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: London with the Rams. I saw it with the Chiefs. 69 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: A no look passed over she Rice. They haven't played 70 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: together in a year, only Andy Reid. And here's Mahomes after. 71 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: The no look one. I I wanted to throw to 72 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 3: receive the whole time, but Xavier was kind of holding 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: that flat defender with his release and so the corner 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: was kind of in between, and so just just holding 75 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: and putting it in the spot at the right time 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 3: when it comes to Like the way he moves and 77 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: the way he runs, routes out a good feel for 78 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: when he wants the football and where I need to 79 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: throw it to, and so he's been working well. 80 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: The wildest game of the day is a team that 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: is trying to supplant catch and beat. In the AFC West, 82 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: it involved the Denver Broncos, who for three quarters were unwatchable, 83 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: and we're getting hammered nineteen nothing by the New York Giants. 84 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: They came back to win a wild, wild shootout. But 85 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: what I really watched in this game and what I 86 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: really saw, and I'm sure you saw two franchise quarterbacks. 87 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart for the Giants was the better one early. 88 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Bo Knicks was pretty special late, But that's what I saw. 89 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: They're both a little uneven. They make mistakes, they have 90 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: bad quarters, but both are confident use their legs. Their 91 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: coaches like them to use their legs, and I mean 92 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: running quarterbacks, for the record, are very effective. In fact, 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: it's Patrick Mahomes breaking ball. It's what he uses in 94 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: every big Super Bowl or AFC championship. So Jackson Dart 95 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: mobile doesn't take his eyes off down the field. Same 96 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: with bon Nicks. I mean, Bonnicks had four first downs 97 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: running in two touchdowns. I don't know why Sean Payton 98 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: doesn't run him more. They're both excellent at it, and 99 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: when you're learning to decipher NFL defenses, pick up first downs. 100 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did it, Maholmes did it, Lamar did it. 101 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: You're good enough in the pocket, but you're not going 102 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: to be great in the pocket because both bow and 103 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart unlike Mahomes, had to play like in September 104 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: their first year right with imperfect rosters, and neither one 105 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: of them got you know, Andy Reid. So everybody keeps 106 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: doubting bow Knicks because like a lot of young quarterbacks, 107 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: he's uneven. He just had the greatest quarter of any 108 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: NFL football player ever, scoring thirty three points. And it's 109 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: like Klay Thompson. Remember Klay Thompson once scored thirty seven 110 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: points in a quarter. Remember that with a Warriors thirty 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: seven points. That doesn't make him better than Steph Curry 112 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: or better than KD. But it makes him a Hall 113 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: of Famer and it makes him a great player. But 114 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter this year alone, bow Nicks has 115 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: three game winning drives. That is a season's worth, and 116 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: he's still a kid. I would prefer a complete game. 117 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: I would love a great first quarter and a great 118 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: third quarter. Bow against really good teams, and the Giants 119 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: Steve VENs is really good, was excellent for three quarters. 120 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: That's not what he is yet. And by the way, 121 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: the Jackson Dark drive on what we thought at the 122 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: time was a game winning drive, I thought it was 123 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: so smart. I didn't love the PI call in that 124 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: kind of consequential moment. I don't like that PI call, 125 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: but they called that. It is what it is, Payton. 126 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: These guys bow Knicks and Jackson Dart, they're not overwhelmed 127 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: by the moment. They just they're not rattled, they're not frenetic. 128 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: They're actually I think bow Knicks focus is better and 129 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: is more confident trailing late. I think Jackson Dart, I mean, 130 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's great looking kid, I don't know what it is, 131 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: but Jackson Dart never feels overwhelmed. And for the record, 132 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: bo Knicks has more weapons and a better offensive line. 133 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: So what Jackson Dart's doing, he's doing it. I mean, 134 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: he's got scataboo, but Denver's got better players, better offensive line, 135 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: more weapons, perceived as the better coach and play caller 136 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: and play designer. So Jackson Dart shouldn't win this game. 137 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: Jackson Dark shouldn't lead for three quarters, and Denver's defense 138 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: is better than the Giants, So in a losing cause 139 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: I thought Jackson Dart was amazing to go into Denver 140 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: and to give the Broncos defense all sorts of trouble 141 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: and to lead nineteen. If you'd have told me the 142 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Giants don't score nineteen points in the total game before 143 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: it started, I would have said, yeah, I could see that, thirteen, fourteen, 144 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: seventeen points. So I mean a losing cause. If you're 145 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: a Giants fan, you got your guy. You got your guy. 146 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: He just needs a better role line, he needs more help. 147 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: Denver's got the better players, Denver's probably got the better coach. 148 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: Denver's probably got the better general manager. Denver's definitely got 149 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: the more weapons, the Mems and Sutton and Harvey and Ingram. 150 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Denver has a Super Bowl roster. The Giants don't. So 151 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: I was blown away by both guys. I really was 152 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: blown away by Jackson Dart, and I wasn't blown away 153 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: with bow Nicks into the fourth quarter. But that was 154 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: Klay Thompson's score. Thirty seven in a quarter. You can 155 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: stop arguing Klay Thompson's great, he's nuts Curry, He's not KD. 156 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: But thirty seven in a quarter. Not a lot of 157 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: people on the planet ever can do that, and Bo 158 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: Nicks just had the greatest quarter of any player in 159 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: league history. I'm sorry, that's hard to do, even with 160 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Sean Payton as your coach. Here's Bo after. 161 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: Well. 162 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: I was thinking about how I was going to answer 163 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 5: questions if we got shut out, you know, not where 164 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: you want to be. And you know, at some point, 165 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 5: I knew we've done it before. In the fourth quarter, 166 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 5: We're gonna, you know, at some point we're gonna go 167 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 5: down and score. Now, maybe too late, we may not 168 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: score enough, but at some point we're gonna do it. 169 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you go, And I mean, I 170 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 5: don't even know how we scored thirty three points in 171 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 5: a quarter. That's kind of insane, but it's just whatever 172 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 5: we had to get done, we did it. 173 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Bo's a he's a streaky shooter. I mean, he 174 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: just gets into these moments. I do think, and I 175 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: said this last week, use his legs. Ryan Dabole has 176 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: quickly identified Jackson Dart's mobility, and they are leaning into it. 177 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: I would lean into bon Nick's legs. When you're a 178 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: young quarterback trying to figure out and decipher these NFL defenses. 179 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: This is not college ball. The windows are tight, the 180 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: dbs are better, the pass rush is bigger, better athletes, 181 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: things close quickly, use the legs, move the chains, extend drives. 182 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: All right, j mact. The Bears have themselves a little 183 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: winning street in Chicago. 184 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 6: Here we go, Here we go. 185 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 7: Your Chicago Bears is getting turnovers against that teams. 186 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 6: Let's celebrate Colin whoo. 187 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: Well. I will say this, the Bears have reached a 188 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: point that is the ultimate respect in the NFL. And 189 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you where that place is. The Bears have 190 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: finally reached this place. We'll talk about that next. 191 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 192 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: in newon Eastern nin a EM Pacific on Fox Sports 193 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app. 194 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 195 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 8: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker, for 196 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 8: twenty two minutes of pipeing hot baseball talk, featuring the 197 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 8: biggest names and newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe 198 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 8: in analytics or the eye test, We've got all the 199 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 8: bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, So do yourself 200 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 8: a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 201 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 8: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 202 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: Well, the Bears beat the Saints. They find themselves on 203 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: a winning streak. And the greatest compliment you can pay 204 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: any NFL team is criticizing them when they win, because 205 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: you see the talent, and you see the potential, and 206 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: you see the sky's the limit. That's where we are 207 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: with the Bears. I'll containd this top seven or eight. 208 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: It's like when your dad used to say, you're better 209 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: than that, right like Chicago. And Ben Johnson has figured 210 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: this out very quickly. This is a run game, takeaway defense. 211 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: That's the identity. It's not Caleb Williams, and he sees 212 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: it and he knows it. He's asking less and less diplomatically. 213 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: All be diplomatic. The passing game is a work in progress. 214 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean Ben Johnson's resting face watching Caleb Williams is discouraged. 215 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: So he sees the truth. This is not a team 216 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: that can win by shootout having to throw the ball. 217 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: It's not a team that can fall behind and come 218 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: flying back like a Denver. They can't. This is all 219 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: about the run game. It's all about takeaways defensively. Remember 220 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: this team, and we said it at the time when 221 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: they went out and got Drew Dollman the center from Atlanta, 222 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: I would have people come up to me in Chicago. 223 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: What do you think about him? I said, They're gonna 224 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: have one of the best guard center guard combos in 225 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: the league Joe Tooney, Drew Dolman, Jonah Jackson and an 226 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: offensive line. Veteran offensive linemen don't play in the preseason, 227 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: so it was going to be a turbulent September. We're 228 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: in October now and that old line has meshed. That 229 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: is big boy guard center guard. There are huge holes 230 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: the last three weeks, big giant holes between the tackles, 231 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: outside the tackles. So Ben has figured it out. He's 232 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: discouraged with the passing game. You can see his body language. 233 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: This is going to be a run game. Control the clock. 234 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. It's not like Ben Johnson's 235 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Ben Franklin. They're not inventing electricity here. It's basic stuff. 236 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: They can actually now take a lead and score in 237 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: the first quarter. It's not revolutionary. It's what the Chiefs 238 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: and the Rams and the good teams do. They score 239 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. And they also have cut Caleb 240 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: Williams sacks in half because they get the ball out 241 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: of Caleb's hands. I mean this team, they are now 242 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks, they're top three in 243 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: the league in yards after catch. Their skills excellent, Roma Dunze, 244 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: Luther Burden, Colston Lovelin, DeAndre Swift, DJ Moore. They got 245 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: dudes that this is a lot closer to the Kansas 246 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: and he Chiefs than it is the Panthers. They've got dudes. 247 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: They got to get that ball out of Caleb's hands 248 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: and let those guys do the work because the passing game. 249 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: With Caleb having on this for weeks, he may just 250 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: never be a really super accurate guy. It may be 251 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: a Cam Newton thing. And he's spectacular, and he's an 252 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: emotional player that gets into streaks. He can make all 253 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: the throws, but you know, he's not going to be 254 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: a guy that gives you thirteen straight completions. That's just 255 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: not his game. And in Caleb's career high school, college 256 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: and last year he was the star of the show. 257 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: He is a supporting actor. Now, for the record, you 258 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: can win an oscar for that right. You can win 259 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: an oscar for a supporting actor. But he's a supporting actor. 260 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: This is about the run game. The coaching is actual. 261 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: Again Ben Johnson has identified it doesn't take that long 262 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: to figure out a quarterback strengths and weaknesses. Caleb's got 263 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: a jet engine for an arm. He is a great runner, 264 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: does a little too much hero ball, struggles a little 265 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: to play with. Instructure not super accurate, but run game defense, aggressiveness, 266 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: takeaway self identity. It's a good football team. And the 267 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: greatest thing you can say about him is they're winning 268 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: and we're all criticizing it because you see how much 269 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: talent there is. You can see the talent they got 270 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: dudes everywhere. Here's been on his offense after beating the Saints. 271 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, up and down. So that's what we've looked like. 272 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 9: We haven't hit our stride yet. Offensively, We're capable of 273 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 9: a lot more. We have very talented individuals. I feel 274 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 9: strongly in our coaching staff, but we're just we're not 275 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 9: complementing our defense on a regular basis. With the number 276 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 9: of turnovers we've had over the last four games, we 277 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 9: should be able to turn those into more points. 278 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: Now, let me defend Caleb Williams on this Spencer Rattler 279 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: was trying to prove how special he was and kept 280 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: throwing picks. Caleb Williams last year with a bad staff 281 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: and a terrible old line, only through six picks. Caleb 282 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: doesn't turn the ball over a ton, at least not 283 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: throwing interceptions. He doesn't, he never has. He didn't do 284 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: it at USC, He didn't do it last year. He's 285 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: not doing it this year. He can have fumble issues 286 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: that'll drive you nuts, but he's not stubborn. He's not rigid. 287 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: You watch some of these young quarterbacks and they just refuse. 288 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler's like, Bro, you're trying way too hard to 289 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: show off. You're trying to better Caleb Williams. You're not. 290 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Caleb doesn't throw, he doesn't make the big mistakes. It's 291 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: just operationally, the ball hits the carpet. It's a little 292 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: bit of Trevor Lawrence. You can see the talent, but 293 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is probably never just going to be as 294 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: good as I thought he was. And I look at 295 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. I see the talent, I see the horsepower, 296 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: but the ball hits the carpet too much, miss on 297 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 1: too many easy ones. A couple of layups. She got 298 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: a hit. But they're winning and we're criticizing him, and 299 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: their coach doesn't love it. When you can go on 300 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: four game winning streaks and the coach is really not 301 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: smiling in the postgame press conference. That tells you how 302 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: much talent they have. I'll argue all day long, this 303 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: is a really good roster. I said this about Denver 304 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: last year when Denver made the playoffs, I said, you 305 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: guys aren't paying at ten. I said this about Indianapolis 306 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: two years ago. I said, the Colts need a quarterback. 307 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: Denver's got to get rid of Russell Wilson. They needed 308 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback Chicago. Chicago's roster seven to eight really special players. 309 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: Just get them the ball, quickly, cut down the sacks, 310 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: let them make their moves. J Mack with the News. 311 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: This is their line. 312 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 7: News, all right, Colin, from your Bears to a real contender, 313 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 7: the Indianapolis Colts. Yes, we're actually allowed to talk about them. 314 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: On the show. 315 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: Now. 316 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 6: You've been pushing for it for a while. Here we go. 317 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 7: The Colts dominate the Chargers. I had a terrible read 318 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 7: here on this game. Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor are 319 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 7: just unbelievable. Jonathan Taylor over one hundred total yards, three touchdowns, Colin, 320 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 7: this guy is the best back in the league right now. 321 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 6: And Shane Steichen said as much afterward. 322 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 10: I think he's the best. He's the best back in 323 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 10: the league right now, and there's no doubt. But I 324 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 10: think it starts with our guys up front. He's running hard, 325 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 10: he's running physical, he's got great vision. Yeah, he's just 326 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 10: he's balling out right now. 327 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: This is a really really good roster and it really 328 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: here's what it proves. If you get an offensive coach 329 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: and even a B level quarterback. I mean we talked. 330 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: I said this last year and I said it this year. 331 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: It's not a roster ish A year ago, everybody wanted 332 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard gone, and I'm like, he's hitting on his 333 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: draft picks. Taylor, Warren, Pittman, Pierce. This old line. Maybe 334 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: it's not Philadelphia or Detroit, but this old line is controlling. 335 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: You know, this is the number one offense in the 336 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: league right now. 337 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 7: Well, some of that is schedule related, Colin. I mean 338 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 7: they beat up on a lot of bad teams. I 339 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 7: looked on the schedule. They're fourteen point favorites against Tennessee 340 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 7: this week. I think they have the Savannah bananas up 341 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 7: after that, like they're playing a bunch of jokers. 342 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 6: Chargers are not jokers, they're just beat up. 343 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 7: And listen, Colts scored on six of their first seven 344 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 7: possessions yesterday, are the. 345 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Most efficient offense. They're not uneven. They score early, they 346 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: score late, they score but before the half. This is 347 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: a and again this goes and proved everybody wanted Valord 348 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: gone and might take his guys. You can't win with 349 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Anthony Richards and completing forty seven percent of his throws. 350 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: You don't need a great quarterback. Daniel Jones is a 351 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: talented kid, kind of an Alex Smith feel where there 352 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: is a ceiling, but you can win a bunch of 353 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: Alex Smith made the playoffs several times. Alex Smith is smart, 354 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: he's good, he's accurate, he can move. This is a 355 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: really dangerous team. 356 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 7: So Colin, I'm sorry to bring up the Jets this 357 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 7: early in the show, but there is a parallel with 358 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 7: the Colts and the Jets. 359 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 6: Hear me out. 360 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 7: So the Colts drafted Anthony richardson high right, and he 361 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 7: looked like a bust, but they quickly pivoted off him. 362 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 7: Your move when it's sound working, pivot to Daniel Jones's right. 363 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 7: My Jets drafted Zach Wilson. They tried to make it happen, 364 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 7: it didn't. They pivoted to Aaron Rodgers colossal failure. Quickly, 365 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 7: let's reboot again to Justin Field's terrible failure. And now 366 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 7: they're zero to seven. The Colts and your guy Ballard. 367 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 7: I know you guys have a lengthy history. 368 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: He did with on a high pick, but he fixed 369 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 6: things quickly. 370 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because Ers, the late Jim Irsay wanted Carson 371 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: Wentz gone off a very good year because he lost 372 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: to the Jags, and so from that point forward, basically 373 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: Ballard was bailing water. He goes and gets Philip Rivers, 374 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: who was actually great in his last year. I get 375 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan because Philip want to retire, and then he 376 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: get Anthony Richardson. This league is so brutal, Lounge. I mean, 377 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: let's be honest. If the Niners don't find Brought Purty 378 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: in the last spot in the league, John Lynch could 379 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: be in trouble because they whiffed on Trey Lance, but 380 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: they found Brock Purty. So The truth is, no GM 381 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: or head coach looks. They all look clueless, regardless of 382 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: how good they are when the quarterback plays bat You 383 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: watch Brian Dable right now with the Giants, you can't 384 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: fire him. He's tied to Jackson Dart. You can't get 385 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: rid of Brian Dave all. So every GM, I mean 386 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: even the Giants GM. Now I'm watching him yesterday Againstanverord 387 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know that fifth round draft picks 388 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: actually pretty good. 389 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 7: Let's not go overboard. But on the Colts, the big 390 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 7: unlock to me has been Tyler Warren Colin. He is 391 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 7: in such a chess piece. I know, we love brock 392 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 7: Bowers last year. I know there's gonna be a bit 393 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 7: of a hot take. 394 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 6: I think Tyler. 395 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 7: Warren's more valuable. You can line him up in the backfield, 396 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 7: He's split him wide in the slot on the line, 397 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 7: and nobody can really guard this guy so far. 398 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: I watched him. I watched him make seventeen catches against 399 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: you USC at the Coliseum last year. I'm not sure 400 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: I've ever seen a college player. It's like, I don't 401 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: know how he transitions to the NFL. But that works 402 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: On Sundays, he's just a he's a pro bowler today. 403 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: He's a rookie pro bowler today. 404 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 7: Real quick, on your calendar, November twenty third, right, it's 405 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 7: the week before Thanksgiving. 406 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 6: Colts Chiefs And I'm not even joking. That's like a 407 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 6: real game. Colt Chiefs is gonna be good because Shane 408 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 6: Steichen right now is what he. 409 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 7: Did to Jesse Minter, who's one of the better defensive 410 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 7: minds in the league. 411 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: This Colts offensive line, guys, nobody's talking about it. It 412 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: is controlling. Yeah, I mean, didn't they played Denver earlier 413 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: this year and Denver struggled. Didn't they play Denver earlier 414 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: this year at home? Yeah, and Denver struggled to get 415 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones. That was when I was like, oh wow, wow, 416 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: this is a real thing. 417 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: The real team. All right, let's move on to the 418 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 6: New England Patriots. If you want to do a victory lap, 419 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 6: go for a big guy. You know your guy. Drake 420 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 6: May actually was my guy dating back to the draft. 421 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 7: Twenty one of twenty three. For Drake May, I mean, 422 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 7: he was phenomenal. That Titans kind of imploded. Cam Ward 423 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 7: had another disastrous fumble, But the story here is the Patriots. 424 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 7: We talked about it last week. This team will have 425 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 7: a shot at the number one seat. Okay, they are 426 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 7: starting to round in the form and Colin, I don't 427 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 7: know what to say about Drake May here. Jaden Daniels 428 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 7: was the toast of the town last last season, right 429 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 7: as a rookie. Drake May looks better than him right now. 430 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: I was talking to my buddy John Middlcoff last night 431 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: and he reminded me that there were stories that the 432 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Vikings tried to get Drake May. That's what they really wanted. 433 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Everybody I talked to like Drake May, but like Jaden Daniels. 434 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: Like Jaden Daniels last year got much better, much faster 435 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: than we thought. I don't think anybody thought Drake May 436 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: would be this good this quickly. 437 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: He is. 438 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: And he had a really bad pick against the Steelers, 439 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: and that's going to happen. I'm telling you, man, his 440 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: last fifty throws, he is just he again. He is 441 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: a pro Bowl level quarterback. It sounds ridiculous, but we 442 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: watched Jaden Daniels last year and everybody kept waiting for 443 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: the surge to end. 444 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 445 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm watching every snap and every throw at Drake Maye. 446 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't have bad throws now, yeah, he doesn't slide 447 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: like bro get he went to the tent. I've gone 448 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: to the tent like five times this year, like learn 449 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: to slide and get down. 450 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 7: I'll just add one more thing I made fun of 451 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 7: the Colts schedule. Listen, the Patriots have beat up a 452 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 7: lot of bad defenses. Okay, Carolina stinks, Pittsburgh can't stop 453 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 7: a nosebleed. Buffalo's terrible defensively, Saints are not great defensive. 454 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 6: They are okay at home. 455 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 7: Tennessee was bad again this schedule. Now the Cleveland Browns 456 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 7: at home or lights out. I think this week the 457 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 7: Patriots could put her on them at home. I'm just 458 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 7: telling look at the schedule. Okay, Falcons outdoors we saw 459 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 7: last night. Falcons outdoors are not that great. This Patriots 460 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 7: team is dangerous. 461 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: This Patriots team beat Buffalo and Buffalo. It was not 462 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: a fluke. They are a better football team right now 463 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: than the Buffalo Bills. I don't think there's any question. 464 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: You and I watched that game. They were the better team. 465 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 6: They were. 466 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 9: Yeah. 467 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 7: Final story, Colin, let's go to a his story here. 468 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 7: That's the Miami Dolphins. The one game that we gave 469 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 7: out that was a stone cold lock locking on your browns. 470 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 7: Holy hell, they just destroyed Tua and the Dolphins thirty 471 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 7: one to six. 472 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 6: Now listen, I'm not gonna sit out here, rip into it. 473 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 6: He was bad. 474 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 7: I expected this, right, No, Tyreek Hill go out towards 475 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 7: against a feisty defense. I didn't expect three interceptions he was. 476 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: He also threw about a half dozen hospital balls. I've 477 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: never seen a quarterback less interested in taking snaps in 478 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: my life. I mean, I thought Tua just wanted to 479 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: get out of there. 480 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 7: Well, he was talking about leadership last week and guy's 481 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 7: not showing up, and now it came back. And anyway, 482 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 7: here's Mike McDaniel, the embattled head coach. I haven't checked 483 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 7: social media. Has he been fired this hour? 484 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 6: I don't know. Anyways, here's McDaniel on Tua and starting. 485 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 11: Guys need to be professionals. Guys need to step up 486 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 11: to the plate. And every person you know on our team, 487 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 11: if you're saying it's not me, it's you, you're just 488 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 11: not gonna win games. And our team, you know, we 489 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 11: we we say we want to, we will lose games. 490 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Nothing works there GM head coach, quarterback. It's been fun. 491 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: I never got the extension to two. I thought it 492 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. So it's it's it's I just thought you did. 493 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: Yesterday was the tipping point. It looked like Tua did 494 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: not want to be on the field. He was throwing 495 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: the ball and ducking away from the punishment. 496 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 7: They traveled to Atlanta. Now that was where I believe 497 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 7: the Tua story was born. Remember Jalen Hurts bench in 498 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 7: the SEC title game. Tua comes on. Maybe he reinvigorates 499 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 7: his career. 500 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 6: I'll go with it. I don't think so, but this 501 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 6: could be it for Mike McDaniel. Here's my thing. 502 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 7: Can Tua rehab his career the way Daniel Jones did, 503 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 7: the way Baker did? The way I think they. 504 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: Can get rid of him if they eat, like like 505 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: Miami's going to get a top five pick, They're going 506 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback, and so they're going to try 507 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: to move to a maybe get a six round pick 508 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: if somebody will take a little bit of the contract. 509 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. As Sean Payton proved him dead. 510 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: You can win in this league. You can make the 511 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: playoffs with a dead cap hit. I mean they're still 512 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: planning paying for Russell Wilson in Denver. Look at their roster, 513 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: does it look like they can't afford guys. But I 514 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: think Denver's got a better GM and a better coach. 515 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: So Miami doesn't have the right GM. They don't have 516 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: the right coach, they don't have the right quarterback. But 517 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: I would absolutely if I was a warm Weather team 518 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: and I was in transition, I'd give you a six 519 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: round pick for two and he a little bit of 520 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: his I think he's a professional quarterback. He needs an 521 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: O line, and Miami has never built him a satisfactory 522 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: O line, which is an indictment. If you have certain 523 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: guys in this league, like Bryce Young, you have to 524 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: have a good OL line. You don't with Josh Allen, 525 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: though they do with Lamar Jackson. You can Justin Herbert 526 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: can literally win games with a terrible O line. Ravage 527 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: my injuries. If you have Tua, your job as a 528 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: GM is to protect him, and they haven't ever. 529 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 7: So there is a team we haven't talked about them yet, 530 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 7: who had Carson Wentz just get I mean, he was 531 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 7: off full yesterday and you don't believe in JJ McCarthy. 532 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 7: I got a buddy floating me in name for the 533 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 7: Vikings and now you're talking to I mean. 534 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 6: O'Connell can do. 535 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: Anything in a northern division. 536 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 6: Well, in a dome. Everybody's got a dome. 537 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 7: Chicago's getting a dome soon, right, Packers are outdoors, but. 538 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 6: It's tough on No. 539 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: Thanks JM. Macklin News. 540 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 541 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 542 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: Colin Right, Colin Wrong, top of next hour. And you know, 543 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: yesterday's late window was crazy. I want to get into 544 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: this the exactly the precise reason you get Micah Parsons 545 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: was yesterday and I'll talk about that next for Green Bay, 546 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: like that was the game. That was the reason you 547 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: don't play particularly well. You don't lead until late and 548 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: it's like we need our Mariano Rivera, we need our closer. 549 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: That game exemplified and illustrated exactly why you get Micah Parsons. 550 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. The Cowboys, the goals, Colin Wright, 551 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: Colin Wrong. 552 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 553 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not a Empacific. 554 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: We were talking about this this morning. What what if 555 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: Marianna Revera, the great closer, had played for like a 556 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: small market team for years and years. You wouldn't really 557 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: know much about him. I mean, I'm sure a great 558 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: team would have eventually found him, but it You know, closers, 559 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: a lot of them don't make the Hall of Fame, right, 560 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: And but what made Mariano Rivera great was the opportunity 561 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: to be great. His teams had leads and the games 562 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: meant a lot. And that's why Green Bay that has 563 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl roster right now, needed to go get 564 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: a closer. And Micah Parson yesterday four tackles for losses, 565 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: three sacks, a couple in the fourth. He is their closer. 566 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: He's there, Mariano. It's much more valuable on a Super 567 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: Bowl roster closing games. When you have an excellent offensive 568 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: coach and a top ten twelve quarterback like Jordan Love. 569 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: You're going to lead ninety eighty percent of your games 570 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. How do you finish them off? Right, 571 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: offensive lines rolls banged up, maybe your offensive your run 572 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: games sputtering. You finish it off, sometimes not having the ball, 573 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: and you finish it off with the closer, the drive stopper, 574 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: and that's why I said when Dallas traded Mica, Dallas 575 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: isn't as good. Dallas needed flexibility and picks and more 576 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: good players. I mean, the Dallas can stop anybody. So Micah, 577 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: a lot of your skill is wasted. Your team trails 578 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: by ten points in the fourth quarter. Green Bay's the opposite. 579 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: So this was one of those trades that worked for 580 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: both teams. Green Bay needs a stopper now, Dallas over 581 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: the next year, they need more elite players and not 582 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: expensive ones. They're paying Seedee Lamb of fortune. They're paying 583 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: Daka Fortune, and they're probably gonna end up paying George 584 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: Pickings a lot of money. And they're paying their corners. 585 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: So Dallas has to hit on a couple of first 586 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: round picks and second round picks. Green Bay's already got that. 587 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: They're loaded at receiver and tight end. They've got their 588 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: star running back, they've got their quarterback, they had the roster. 589 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they were good despite giving up Kenny Clark 590 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: to Dallas, so that this worked for both teams. But 591 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: yesterday was exactly why you get Micah. You go on 592 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: the road, it's a tough matchup. I told you Friday, 593 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: I said Arizona. Green Bay's gonna win it, take the points. 594 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be close. Arizona loses close more often, it 595 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: seems like the last three years, than anybody in the league. 596 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: And Jacoby Brissette was comfortable early in the game. At 597 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: one point he completed what fourteen straat throws. But when 598 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: you needed, you led two to one entering the ninth, 599 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: here came Micah and that's why you got him. That's 600 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 1: why the trade was smart by green Bay. But I 601 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: understood it from Dallas's standpoint. I get it, they need 602 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: more good players like green Bay. Green Bay's got that. 603 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: They needed one game wrecker and Harris Jordan love Aff 604 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: the win man. 605 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 5: It's amazing, you know. 606 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 10: I think I can't state enough how fun it is 607 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 10: just to have him on this team, and how much 608 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 10: of a playmaker he is, you know, in big situations 609 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 10: like that. You know, having three sacks on the day 610 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 10: is big time. 611 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: So for years and years, everybody used to tell me 612 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: how great Dak Prescott was, and is there Hammer and 613 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: the Commanders yesterday? I'm thinking, you know, and I was 614 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: always like, he's got the best, oh line, he's got Zeke. 615 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, eh, I mean, he's a very very good 616 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: BB plus quarterback. I saw this morning he's ninth in 617 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: MVP voting or at ninth in MVP odds. That's insane. 618 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: He's got to be near to the top. I always 619 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: thought he was the classic sort of high floor, low 620 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: ceiling quarterback, right like Kirk Cousins with a star in 621 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: his helmet. He's gonna get you to ten wins. But 622 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: the fact that he's ninth in his last four games, 623 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: he's thrown for over a thousand yards. He can only 624 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: win one way and everybody knows it. He's got fourteen 625 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: touchdowns and no picks. He's just he is on a 626 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: he and George Pickens was a talented highlight guy. Now 627 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: he's a drama free, talented production guy. Do not understate 628 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: how Dak Prescott has soothed and lowered the temperature on 629 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: George Pickens. George Pickens was like eh, most of the 630 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 1: league had no interest. He's now maybe the number two receiver, 631 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: best number two receiver in the league. So the Cowboys 632 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: did what real cowboys do. Find a prize winner that 633 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: had been put out to pasture, and they did it, 634 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: and it's delivered, and give Brian Schottenheimer credit because the 635 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: run game Javonte Williams looks like the Denver Javonte Williams. 636 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: The offensive line is still in a rebuild. This is 637 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: not a great offensive line. But I'm watching Dak yesterday. 638 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: He's had He's taken so many snaps from High Scho 639 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: to Mississippi State to Dallas. He is so composed in 640 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: the pocket. He doesn't get forre Netik yesterday that pocket 641 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 1: because the O line for Dallas right now is mid. 642 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: It's okay, it's not Detroit, it's not Denver, it's not 643 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: the Colts. Maybe it's better than the Chargers and their injuries. 644 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: It's not a great old line right now, so he 645 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: faces real pressure all the time. And I mean, I 646 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: thought Jaden Daniels yesterday looks small compared to Dak. I 647 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: really did. I thought I thought Jaden looks small. The 648 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: Cowboys pass blocking folks is rated thirtieth, so this is 649 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: closer to a Charger O line than it is a 650 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: Denver O line. And Dak was big and in control. 651 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: Here's Jerry Jones after as Dak Presscott the MVP of 652 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: the league right now. 653 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 4: Well he's mine and he should be Cowboy fans, and 654 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: he gives us a tremendous opportunity, and this team is 655 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 4: really following me. And team can play guests. They're the 656 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 4: league competition just like you saw today. Can play that 657 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 4: way and it can get better. 658 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: For the record, he is ninth in MVP odds, and 659 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: I constructed my own Mount pass more of the four 660 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: guys who should be leading in terms of odds, and 661 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: it should be Baker and Mahomes and Dak and Stafford. 662 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: That's my Mount passmore. You can have Mount rushmore. These 663 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: guys have separated, and there's a lot of good quarterbacks 664 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: in this league. I think what Herbert's doing, considering the 665 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: beating he's taken, is incredibly admirable. Again, I think what 666 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: bo Nix did in the fourth quarter. I think Josh 667 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: Allen once again feels like he's got to carry that offense. 668 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: Dak's having a year. I mean, when you watch that 669 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: game yesterday, did you not think the best quarterback on 670 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: the field was Dak and Jayden Daniels last year the 671 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: best rookie year for a quarterback in the game's history. 672 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: So and I you know, for a long time, I 673 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: was always like Dak as Kirk cousins with better mobility 674 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: and more famous. I think Dak's planned out of his mind, 675 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: out of his mind, and you know it's this is 676 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: what's great about this league. The New York Giants before 677 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart took over, I mean it literally felt like 678 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: a hapless organization. Get rid of day ball, Joe Shane, 679 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: owner doesn't know what he's doing. The personnel's horrible and 680 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: leading nineteen nothing In Denver, You're like, this is a 681 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: real team. It is amazing. For years and years we've 682 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: talked about this. I think quarterback is the highest paid 683 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: position in the sport. It's underpaid. Look at what just 684 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, with almost no pro experience has done to 685 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: the Giants. You this morning feel different about the New 686 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: York Giants than you did a month ago. Same roster, 687 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: schedule has been tough. I mean Denver, Russell Wilson, dead 688 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: cap hell, felt like you were a decade from being 689 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: a contender. I mean, Denver hits on the quarterback. Suddenly 690 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: the dead cap money doesn't affect you. I mean it 691 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: is outside of Green Bay, who always gets the quarterback right, 692 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: everybody else struggles and misses. San Francisco Trey Lance miss 693 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: Brock Purdy find a gem. Now they got Mac John 694 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm not sure Mac Jones. I mean, I watch Mac 695 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: and Brock together. It's Mac runs a little bit more 696 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: than you think. He does a little sneaky sometimes in 697 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: big crucial situations, Mac Jones runs. But I'm watching Dak 698 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: yesterday and I'm like, I mean, there's been so many 699 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: great players that have left him. The Zachs and the 700 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith and the Zeke and the des and the 701 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: old Line and Micah and they're blown out Washington yesterday, 702 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: really really impressive. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. Next hour, Your 703 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: Niners played last night, Jay Mack, and I will say 704 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: Penix is a classic young quarterback. Depends on the series, 705 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: depends on the half, you know. I mean, like I 706 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: think with a lot of these quarterbacks, we just forget. 707 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes admitted the light went on year three. He 708 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: ran around for years. He had great coaching. So I 709 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: just I watched Panix or Bo Nicks or Jackson Dart 710 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: and my takeaway is this is what it looks like. 711 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: Almost my first semester in college, when I went on 712 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: academic probation, I didn't know how to study. I had 713 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: good tests and bad tests. I just I didn't really 714 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: know how to study because I didn't have to in 715 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: high school. I feel like that with all these young 716 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: quarterbacks they have, c J. Stroud has had really bad 717 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: stretches and an incredible games he plays tonight in Seattle, 718 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: I think Houston's going to give Seattle trouble. So there 719 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: you go. 720 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting. 721 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 7: On my podcast, I compared basically Atlanta to like a 722 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 7: Miami Dolphins, specific settings, warm weather. For Miami, they're great. 723 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 7: They look like a track team. Guess what in a 724 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 7: dome colin Atlanta looks awesome. Yeah, you remember that game 725 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 7: against Minnesota. The edge rushers are flying around Jon Robins 726 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 7: like they're great indoors, you take them off that fast track. 727 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 7: Bjehon Robinson Monday night football looked like the best back 728 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 7: in the league. He had like forty yards last night 729 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 7: against the Niners defense missing everybody. So I just I 730 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 7: can't totally take Atlanta seriously because if they're outdoors, they're 731 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 7: not going to do much. 732 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: No. It's so we have two Monday night games. Tonight 733 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Houston's at Seattle. My prediction very low scoring and very close, 734 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: possible upset. This is this is a matchup where Houston 735 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: matches up with Seattle. I think it's really really low 736 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: scoring twenty seventeen. And then we have Detroit off an 737 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: ugly win in a bad mood. They're a great home 738 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: team against Baker in the Bucks. I do like Detroit there. 739 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: That could be one of the games of the weekend. 740 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 7: I need Detroit to avoid a one in four. How 741 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 7: did the hurt hierarchy do be? 742 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: The Blazing five went three and one and we have 743 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: Detroit and the coverage n. 744 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 6: So we both need Detroit. Yes, Oh, Blazing five starting 745 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 6: to cook with a little gas. 746 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 4: Huh. 747 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: We were four and one last week. We're three and one. 748 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: We had the Cowboy Commander over, we had Arizona in 749 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: the points, we had the Cleveland Browns, and that's the 750 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: last time I'm betting them for the season.