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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason MacIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, straight Fire Fire?

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Speaker 3: It's me Jason MacIntyre, straight for your for Wednesday, November

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Speaker 3: the twenty sixth. A happy early Thanksgiving to all the

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Speaker 3: straight Fire listeners. Obviously, I'm very thankful for you guys

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Speaker 3: keeping this podcast going. We are now on four plus years.

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Speaker 3: I think the spring will be five years. Just amazing.

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Speaker 3: Very thankful for you guys to deliver the download, share

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Speaker 3: it like it, give me reviews. I don't really ask

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Speaker 3: for that a lot. I know a lot of other

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Speaker 3: podcasts do that, and that's like a hack. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 3: unsubscribe and then subscribe. Everybody do it on Tuesday at noon.

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Speaker 3: Apparently that's what some of the big podcasts do. I

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Speaker 3: don't really care to do that. I'm sure the iheartfolks

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Speaker 3: would love it if I did more of that. It

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Speaker 3: just feels cheesy and I'm just gonna deliver and you

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Speaker 3: guys don't like it, or you won't, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I at some point you got to just hope that

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Speaker 3: the product delivers. And I feel like we are if

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Speaker 3: we're not, trust me, I hear about it from you guys.

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Speaker 3: So a special Thanksgiving edition. We brought on Patrick Everson,

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Speaker 3: outstanding voice in the gambling space. He's at ground zero

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Speaker 3: in Vegas, talks to all the bookmakers, knows where the

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Speaker 3: big money is, knows where the head fakes are, knows

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Speaker 3: where the public weak money is.

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Speaker 2: So we talk about all that.

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Speaker 3: For the Thanksgiving games and beyond, I will be with

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Speaker 3: the family, trying to not focus too much on the sports.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Thursday and Friday it's stuff, not too but just

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Speaker 3: try to unplug for a little bit, if you will.

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Speaker 3: And it's weird because this is a great time, like

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Speaker 3: November is my favorite sports month of the year. You

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Speaker 3: get primo college basketball, although that's a little diluted this year,

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Speaker 3: even though the talent is off the charts.

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Speaker 2: The tournaments are wacky.

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Speaker 3: You get meaningful college football, you get obviously NFL headed

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Speaker 3: toward the playoffs. You get a lot of NBA action.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately we're just going to basically keep this one

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Speaker 3: to the NFL. I'm not going to really dig into this.

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Speaker 3: You know, college football ranks, and it didn't really seem

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Speaker 3: like anything happened. Oregon goes ahead of Old Miss after

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Speaker 3: gonna be fine if it beats the Mississippi State and

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Speaker 3: the Egg Bowl. Now, if Lane leaves, I cannot imagine

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Speaker 3: they win that game and he leaves. If they lose,

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Speaker 3: maybe Lane walks away and it's like, I'm going we're

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Speaker 3: not going to the playoff. But if they win and

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Speaker 3: he leaves, that would be unprecedented. They're a one loss team.

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Speaker 3: They had one bad quarter against Georgia and they gave

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Speaker 3: up twenty one points and lost the game. Other than that,

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Speaker 3: they're a contender. I mean, it's Ohio State and everybody's

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Speaker 3: kind of battling after that.

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Speaker 2: But who knows.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State went in last year to Michigan with I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry no, the game was at home.

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Speaker 2: They had a loaded roster. They're running backs.

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Speaker 3: Last year Ohio States were Judkins and Henderson. They're both

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Speaker 3: studs in the NFL. Starters this year, okay, their wide

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Speaker 3: receiver room was Abukah Jeremiah Smith and the wide receiver tape.

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Speaker 2: Folks like, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Abuka was like contending for Rookie the Year in the

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Speaker 3: NFL and they scored ten points. So the wacky things

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Speaker 3: happened in that game. Obviously, I think ohast, it's better.

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Speaker 3: I have zero college football bets on this podcast. I

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Speaker 3: will tell you about three that I made. This is

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Speaker 3: all I've got so far in college football. Penn State

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Speaker 2: I obviously will get down more. I'll post those on

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Speaker 3: It's just it's a rough week and I don't have

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Speaker 3: any NFL locks survivor you. We'll talk about it with Patrick. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a crazy week, and obviously I don't. I say

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna unplug, and then I say look for my

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Speaker 3: picks on Instagram. You know, that's just dumb, but that's

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Speaker 3: the reality. That's where we are until I finalized this newsletter,

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Speaker 3: work now. If you're doing it for yourself. That's a

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Speaker 3: different story, all right, without further ado, Patrick Everson from

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Speaker 3: Foxsports dot Com.

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Speaker 2: He's at Vegas Insider.

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Speaker 3: Everybody have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 4: I know what sports fans want.

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome back

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Speaker 2: to straight fire Man.

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Speaker 3: This guy's as plugged in as anybody on the ground

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: Listen, some of these guests don't like it when I

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Speaker 3: gas him up. But Patrick Everson's been doing the some

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Speaker 3: of the best stuff out of Vegas for the last

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Speaker 3: few years. He got snatched up by Fox. He's at

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Speaker 3: the better collective. He's ever everywhere. Patrick, How you doing, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm very.

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Speaker 4: Good, Jason. Thanks a lot for having me on the

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Speaker 4: podcast this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know you're super busy, so we won't

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Speaker 3: take up too much of your time. But I've had

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Speaker 3: a history with Thanksgiving week. I always struggle. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: So it's like the NFL makes it tough. So we're

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Speaker 4: Well, like you said, it's definitely challenging.

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Speaker 5: You get the triple header on Thanksgiving Day, so you know,

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Speaker 5: So uh no, look, it is a little uh it

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Speaker 4: But the week caves in on them really quickly too.

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Speaker 5: You know, some of them are traveling, some of them

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Speaker 5: for everybody involved, the content side, the bookmaker side, uh,

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Speaker 3: And let's be real, Patrick, you look around and it's

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Speaker 3: so I am curious around the league with the quarterback stuff.

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Speaker 2: How do you handle that?

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Speaker 5: It's the same as as you would or certainly the public,

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Speaker 5: certainly the Sharper betters are all over. It's it's all

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Speaker 5: I kind of thought that when Cincinnati didn't win last

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Speaker 4: Okay, you can't. You can't give up yet.

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Speaker 5: Your two games behind Baltimore and Baltimore five weeks ago

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying they should give up now necessarily.

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Speaker 4: Or something like that, and their defense is just lights out.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't even mention Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be hard at Sercher survivor you got to

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming in a traditional one, people would be looking

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I don't know if I trust Miami.

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Speaker 5: I mean you, like I said, people are going to

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Speaker 4: But I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Chargers is probably you know, the perceived

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Speaker 4: Seattle is the largest.

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Speaker 2: It was ten, right and then it was ten and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, they're down to nine and a half now.

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Speaker 5: And I'm double checking the Openers, and it depends on

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing that is that just a number grab

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Speaker 4: And I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: But the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: If you've got the Chargers, you certainly want to try

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody has them left to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: getting three if you can.

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Speaker 3: The most of them are gone, although it looks like

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Speaker 5: At the super Book, which is certainly why they respected book,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I haven't seen any update on Jacobs.

442
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming they held him out last week so he

443
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Speaker 3: could play in this one, and they'll need him because

444
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Speaker 3: I mean that Lion's defense is just not great.

445
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's good, but the secondary is

446
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Speaker 2: banged up. Yeah.

447
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Speaker 3: So I'm on Packers, Chiefs Cowboys is interesting and looks

448
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 3: like this has come down a lot. What I don't

449
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,560
Speaker 3: like is that the Cowboys appear to be a public dog.

450
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Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement.

451
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Speaker 5: I think it's fair to say they were certainly a

452
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Speaker 5: public dog last week. Yeah, very very public dog against

453
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Speaker 5: the Eagles, and come Bay made everybody's day. I took

454
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Speaker 5: them in game while they were for I should have

455
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Speaker 5: taken them while they were way down, but I was like,

456
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Speaker 5: I'm not taking them. Whll, they're way down. I took

457
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Speaker 5: them when they were down a touchdown and I thought,

458
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Speaker 5: I'm dead in the water.

459
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Speaker 4: This is not happening.

460
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Speaker 5: But it ultimately happened, and anybody who took Dallas on

461
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Speaker 5: the spread obviously was very happy with that as well.

462
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this has come down some.

463
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Speaker 5: If you go back to last week, Jason, the look

464
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Speaker 5: aheadline was Chiefs three and a half and then it

465
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Speaker 5: went to four for a few days, and then when

466
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Speaker 5: they came back and reopened this game on Sunday, it

467
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Speaker 5: was Chiefs three and a half. Now we're down to

468
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Speaker 5: three Dallas's plus three even money Chiefs or minus three

469
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Speaker 5: minus one sixteen. That's from the super book And again

470
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Speaker 5: with Casey Degna and the risk manager there at the

471
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Speaker 5: super Book, he noted in this one more tickets and

472
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Speaker 5: money on the Chiefs spread a money line which surprised

473
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Speaker 5: me a little. I do think there's going to be

474
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Speaker 5: some comeback on Dallas here based on what happened last week,

475
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Speaker 5: and that's how Degnet expects this to unfold as well.

476
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Speaker 5: He said, with Dallas winning last week, he thinks both

477
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Speaker 5: sides are going to see a lot of support here.

478
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Speaker 4: And really what's been the.

479
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Speaker 5: More interesting I guess maybe not more interesting, but what's

480
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Speaker 5: gotten more action is the total on this.

481
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Speaker 4: It's up one and a half points.

482
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Speaker 5: It's out to fifty two from fast fifteen and a

483
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Speaker 5: half open fifty two points and Kate Degnana said, hey,

484
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Speaker 5: I don't see that stopping. He said, straight bet and

485
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Speaker 5: parlay liability is going to be on the over in

486
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Speaker 5: that game, and he's already seeing it even though we're

487
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Speaker 5: early in the we were still two days out and

488
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 5: people aren't really necessarily focused in on these games yet,

489
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 5: they're already seeing the liability stack up on the over here.

490
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Speaker 4: But he thinks this is going to be a good

491
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Speaker 4: two way game.

492
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Speaker 5: And what he said was, you know, the Cowboys do

493
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Speaker 5: tend to get a lot of public action, as you noted,

494
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Speaker 5: and as we discussed super trendy dog against the Eagles

495
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Speaker 5: last week, and you know, very fortuitous to get there.

496
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Speaker 5: He thinks in this case though, they'll want the Cowboys

497
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Speaker 5: because he thinks the Chiefs will probably be involved in

498
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Speaker 5: more of the parlays, if not the straight bets, and

499
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Speaker 5: so they wouldn't mind seeing the Cowboys get another outright

500
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Speaker 5: win as a home underdog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did get over fifty two. You said it's

502
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Speaker 2: open to fifty two and a half.

503
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Speaker 4: Yeah, fifty two.

504
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Speaker 5: No, it went from fifty and a half to fifty

505
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Speaker 5: two at super book hasn't gone to fifty two and

506
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Speaker 5: a half yet.

507
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Speaker 3: So it's interesting because you look at the Cowboys on

508
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Speaker 3: the road. Now, some of these are outside, but they

509
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: did not look good outdoors. At Jacksonville. I know they

510
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: led that game, but they ultimately lost the pick six hurt.

511
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Speaker 3: They went outdoors to Buffalo lost, they went outdoors to

512
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 3: Denver lost, and then they came home against Indy and

513
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Speaker 3: did not look great.

514
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Speaker 2: Didn't cover.

515
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Speaker 3: I mean, you got to go back to beating Marcus

516
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Speaker 3: Mariota or was it Jayden Daniels Maybe I forget who

517
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 3: was a quarterback in that game, But like their last

518
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Speaker 3: two covers were against the Raiders and Commanders, I just

519
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Speaker 3: I don't think the Chiefs are as good as everybody thinks.

520
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Speaker 3: I do worry about the Dallas defense, but you gotta

521
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Speaker 3: be honest, that front seven has some dudes.

522
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Speaker 4: Now. Yeah, and that was.

523
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Speaker 5: One thing I saw pointed out elsewhere as I was

524
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Speaker 5: looking over some notes earlier today.

525
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Speaker 4: You know, oh, I know what it was. It was a.

526
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Speaker 5: Sharp better I go back and forth with pretty regularly,

527
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Speaker 5: and in fact, he makes a pick each week in

528
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Speaker 5: my midweek NFL Midweek report that's up on Fox Sports.

529
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Speaker 4: It'll be up on Wednesday at some.

530
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Speaker 5: Point, and they say he's random McKay, really good guy,

531
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Speaker 5: smart guy, and that's a game he's on. He is

532
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Speaker 5: on the under. He got to fifty two and a

533
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Speaker 5: half somewhere, and he's on that. But he noted exactly

534
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Speaker 5: what you said about Dallas' defense. He said, Casey isn't

535
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Speaker 5: as explosive a tea as explosive a team. They score

536
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Speaker 5: with long clock consuming drives, which is why he's on

537
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Speaker 5: the under. But he said he likes Dallas's defense. He said,

538
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Speaker 5: Dallas is greatly improved on defense with the additions it's

539
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Speaker 5: made and getting used to everflus and the defense and

540
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Speaker 5: make everflues, coaching the defense and the adjustments and so forth.

541
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Speaker 5: He really does like Dallas's defense, to your points, So

542
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Speaker 5: that could be a stumbling block for Casey, and Casey's

543
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 5: had really a stumbling block of a season, to be honest.

544
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Speaker 5: They were very lucky to get out of Week twelve

545
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Speaker 5: with a win over the Colt Bengals Ravens.

546
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Speaker 3: The night game not as exciting as we wait for

547
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Speaker 3: Burrow being official. Let's say Burrow becomes official. What do

548
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Speaker 3: you think this drops too?

549
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Speaker 2: Four and a half?

550
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Speaker 5: That's a good question the way that Casey Digne described

551
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Speaker 5: it again here in Vegas at the super Book.

552
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Speaker 4: They first off, the look.

553
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Speaker 5: Aheadline on this game last week was eleven and a

554
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Speaker 5: half and it went to ten and a half. That

555
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Speaker 5: was that was all they did, eleven and a half,

556
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Speaker 5: ten and a half, and they probably got down to

557
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Speaker 5: ten and a half based on people assuming that Burrow

558
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 5: was going to come back to play on Thursday night.

559
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Speaker 5: They reopened on Sunday at seven and a half, went

560
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Speaker 5: to seven, then to six and a half, seven, six

561
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Speaker 5: and a half. There's been a little battle over the

562
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Speaker 5: first couple of days of the week between seven and

563
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Speaker 5: six and a half on this game, and Degnan's expectation

564
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Speaker 5: is that Burrow is going to play. He said, right now,

565
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 5: more on the Bengals is coming in on the spread.

566
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Speaker 5: But he noted some of that was the look aheadline

567
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Speaker 5: from last week where you could get double digits if

568
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Speaker 5: you did that, well, very good on you. You're getting

569
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Speaker 5: the very best of the number. And he said he

570
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Speaker 5: thinks there's something. He knows there's something from Sunday when

571
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Speaker 5: the line was still at seven and a half. There's

572
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Speaker 5: really nothing too significant on Cincinnati at seven or six

573
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Speaker 5: and a half, but there was something there because it

574
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Speaker 5: got the super Book and others to move down to

575
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Speaker 5: seven and even six and a half.

576
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Speaker 1: So they maybe seven play.

577
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe the seven bakes in Burrow already.

578
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Speaker 4: I feel like it does. I don't think it gets

579
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Speaker 4: down to four and a half.

580
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Speaker 5: I mean, maybe go to six possibly, regardless what Dagnan said,

581
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Speaker 5: We're still going to need the Bengals, and more likely

582
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 5: they're going to need the Bengals to win out right.

583
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: So the Ravens money line parlays, and if.

584
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Speaker 5: This number stays in that six, six and a half

585
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 5: seven range, the teasers come into play, Jason, So he said,

586
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Speaker 5: with Ravens money line parlays and teasers, and especially if

587
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 5: both the early favorites win, even if they don't cover,

588
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 5: if Kansas City wins, if Detroit wins, he said, they'll

589
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 5: be certainly looking for the Bengals to win out right

590
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 5: in what they think is going to be the return

591
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Speaker 5: of Joe Burrow.

592
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so my other read and I haven't really seen

593
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: people talk about this yet because it's you know, Burrow

594
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: waiting Thanksgiving all that stuff. But next week the Ravens

595
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 3: host the Steelers. That is kind of for the division.

596
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: It is a massive, enormous game.

597
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: It's easy. I know the Bengals are in.

598
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: The division in their rivalry game, but they stink they're

599
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 3: not going to the playoffs, They're I don't know how

600
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: many guys in the Ravens locker room are like, oh, Bengals, Yeah,

601
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: we got to focus on the worst defense in the league.

602
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Speaker 3: Or are they already thinking about hosting Pittsburgh next week

603
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Speaker 3: in a game where they can take over first place.

604
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Speaker 3: I just I know that that doesn't really mean much,

605
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: But psychologically, I'm of the belief that people do get

606
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: caught looking ahead.

607
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Speaker 5: If you will, oh, I think I think they do

608
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Speaker 5: get caught looking ahead. And this is a situation where

609
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 5: you're also working on a short week and looking and

610
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Speaker 5: potentially looking ahead. You don't have as much time to

611
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 5: get ready for the Bengals. You know, Burdle comes back

612
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Speaker 5: if you know, if he's healthy, and you know at

613
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Speaker 5: least you know, close to.

614
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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. We all know he's a fantastic quarterback.

615
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Speaker 5: So it could be a you know, sort of a

616
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Speaker 5: sort of a you could I could see why people

617
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Speaker 5: would think this is kind of a trap spot potentially

618
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Speaker 5: for the Ravens to look ahead spot where they know

619
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Speaker 5: they've got this massive game against the Steelers. But that's

620
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Speaker 5: not going to keep the public off Baltimore, especially at

621
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Speaker 5: the moneyline parleys. They're going to be riding the Ravens

622
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Speaker 5: in that five game winning streak, and and if they

623
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Speaker 5: I mean, I know, I got a twenty five to

624
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Speaker 5: one Ravens super Bowl ticket when they when.

625
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Speaker 4: They were falling a part early in the season. So

626
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Speaker 4: and I wasn't alone. It's not like it was a

627
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Speaker 4: sharp play or anything.

628
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Speaker 5: I'm sure a lot of people saw some numbers that

629
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Speaker 5: were kind of attractive and thought, gosh, if Lamar Jackson

630
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 5: could just come back and play reasonably well. And now

631
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 5: we've got a five game win streak and they're right on.

632
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 5: You know, they've got Pittsburgh right where they want them basically,

633
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 5: So I kind of hope they're dialed in. But I

634
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 5: really just hope we see a really good game. That

635
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 5: would be nice too.

636
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Speaker 3: Eagles are seven point favorites against the Bears that I'm

637
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: sure some people thought that was a big number initially.

638
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: Bears are eight and three little smoking mirrors with the

639
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: turnovers and the comebacks. I want to take the Eagles here,

640
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Speaker 3: but seven, I mean, Philly's had some problems against the

641
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Speaker 3: spread this season.

642
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Speaker 2: I don't I know, there is probably a stay away

643
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Speaker 2: from me.

644
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 3: I don't think the Bears are great, but I can

645
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: see them like scratching and clawing and losing twenty four to.

646
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Speaker 4: Twenty or something.

647
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Speaker 5: Sure, I think I could see a game unfolding like that,

648
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 5: especially with what we've seen from the Eagles over the

649
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 5: past few weeks. I mean, they did, look, to their credit,

650
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 5: they beat the Bears and Allions, two of the better

651
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 5: teams in the NFC, and two teams that are also

652
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Speaker 5: like the Eagles high up in the Super Bowl odds.

653
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 5: But in those two games combined twenty six points, and

654
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 5: then they get a big old lead against Dallas and

655
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 5: let Dallas come back and win that game. I mean,

656
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 5: obviously Dallas should get some credit there, but still the

657
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: Eagles should have won that game. That should not have

658
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: happened to a defending Super Bowl champion with the talent

659
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Speaker 5: that team has.

660
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Speaker 4: So I would be super wary of the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: And what Casey Degnet again here in talent super said,

662
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Speaker 5: this number has been steady at seven, but the Eagles

663
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Speaker 5: are minus seven even money, which tells you then this

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Speaker 5: could be headed.

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Speaker 4: Towards six and a half and a half exactly.

666
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Speaker 5: So if you want to get the Bears plus seven

667
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 5: you're paying minus won sixteen juice, so you got to

668
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Speaker 5: pay a little bit of a premium there to get

669
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Speaker 5: seven points with the Bears. It tells you also that

670
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Speaker 5: this is probably not going to seven and a half.

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Speaker 5: And what Casey said about the game, he said early,

672
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Speaker 5: not a whole lot of action yet. I think more people,

673
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Speaker 5: if they are focused right now, they're looking at those

674
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Speaker 5: three Thanksgiving Day games. But this is going to get

675
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Speaker 5: bet really well. And by the way, backing up really quickly,

676
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Speaker 5: I've heard a couple of different odds makers and I

677
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Speaker 5: don't mean to throw this back to the Cowboys Chiefs,

678
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Speaker 5: but they think that might be the most bet game

679
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Speaker 5: of the regular season.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

681
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Speaker 5: They are expecting big handle on that. And I've heard

682
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Speaker 5: that from from Tom Gable, who works out of Borgada

683
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Speaker 5: Sports it's the bet MGM property in New Jersey, and

684
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Speaker 5: also from John Murray, who runs the super book here

685
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Speaker 5: in Las Vegas. They both expect really high handle for

686
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Speaker 5: that Chiefs Cowboys game. And I mean to go backwards there,

687
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Speaker 5: but what Casey said is early in the week on

688
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Speaker 5: Bears Eagles, more Bears action, but not too much in

689
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Speaker 5: the pot right now, nothing really too significant. But he

690
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Speaker 5: noted with the Eagles lay in seven, it's kind of

691
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Speaker 5: a similar situation as it is with the Ravens. You

692
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Speaker 5: got to stay a total standalone game. Granted it's not

693
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Speaker 5: in prime time, but it's a standalone game. He said.

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Speaker 5: Our best case is going to be the Bears winning

695
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Speaker 5: this outright because all the money line parlays and the teasers,

696
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: the six point teasers and so forth are going to

697
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Speaker 5: run to Philadelphia on Friday.

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Speaker 3: I did just have to look up Ben Johnson his

702
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: last meeting against the Eagles. It was the season opener

703
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two and the Lions scored thirty five

704
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Speaker 3: on the Eagles defense. That was a good Eagles team. Obviously,

705
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Speaker 3: not that has good of a defense. But I firmly

706
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Speaker 3: believe Ben Jonson'll be able to move the ball here

707
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Speaker 3: with Kleb running, Yeah, it'd be an interesting game. I'm

708
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Speaker 3: not taking the Bears or anything, but we'll see Sunday.

709
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Speaker 3: Not a lot of great games. I do want to

710
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Speaker 3: circle Niners, Browns that line is cratering. It looks like

711
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Speaker 3: the weather is going to be in the thirties with

712
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Speaker 3: sixty chances of snow, rain and wind.

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Speaker 2: Is that why this has gone down from was it

714
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Speaker 2: seven to four and a half?

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Speaker 5: It's so there may have been some sevens out there

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Speaker 5: to open I'm double checking. It looks like most thoughts

717
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Speaker 5: were six and a half. The Superbook was definitely six

718
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Speaker 5: and a half here in Las Vegas. And look, I

719
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Speaker 5: think the weather is a little bit of a factor here.

720
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Speaker 5: The super Bowl has gotten as low as four and

721
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Speaker 5: a half, very briefly so, but there was and Casey

722
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Speaker 5: Degnant told me this. There was sharp money on the

723
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Speaker 5: Browns at plus six and a half on Monday, and

724
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Speaker 5: that got them down to five and a half, and

725
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Speaker 5: really just a few minutes after that they even went

726
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Speaker 5: to five, then then went back to five and a

727
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Speaker 5: half six and then a little spend a little bit

728
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Speaker 5: of time a cup of coffee on Tuesday at four

729
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Speaker 5: and a half, but then pretty quickly went to five

730
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Speaker 5: and then five and a half again.

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Speaker 4: I would say that this is not getting back to six.

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Speaker 5: And I think to your point, the weather is partially

733
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Speaker 5: a factor, but there has definitely been some sharp money

734
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Speaker 5: on the Browns when that was at six and a half,

735
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Speaker 5: which is the high points so far this week.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sure everybody remembers the last time brock perty

737
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Speaker 3: was in Cleveland the Niners. I'm pretty sure that was

738
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Speaker 3: the game Trent Williams VISs. Niners were undefeated and they

739
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Speaker 3: could do nothing. Now here's the real thing. Who is

740
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Speaker 3: the quarterback of the Browns?

741
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Speaker 2: I could give them?

742
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Speaker 3: Probably I would not have guessed this in fifteen guesses

743
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Speaker 3: somebody named Philip Walker. I don't even know who that is.

744
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Speaker 3: But the box scores joing Philip Walker through two picks

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Speaker 3: for the Browns. They still won, exactly because Party was

746
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Speaker 3: terrible and could they couldn't keep him up right?

747
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Speaker 2: And I just wonder, can Miles Garrett wreck this game?

748
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's on pace to break the all time

749
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Speaker 3: sack record and the Browns defense at home does not

750
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Speaker 3: give up the run. Christian McCaffrey last time in Cleveland

751
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Speaker 3: eleven carries forty three yards. I'm worried about the Niners here.

752
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Speaker 4: I would be worried about the Niners in this spot.

753
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Speaker 4: The Niners.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't feel like like I said, I

755
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Speaker 5: feel like my Denver Broncos or smoking Mirs. I don't

756
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Speaker 5: think the Niners are necessarily smoking mirs, but just the

757
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Speaker 5: injury situation and Perty seems to be having some trouble

758
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Speaker 5: with his throws.

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Speaker 4: He certainly didn't look.

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Speaker 5: Good for a good chunk of Monday night, even though

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Speaker 5: in week twelve, even though the forty nine ers got there,

762
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Speaker 5: I'd be worried about it, especially if it's if it's

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Speaker 5: bad weather and that defense. If I recall correctly, the

764
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Speaker 5: Browns had a great We're talking about the Raiders here,

765
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Speaker 5: who are really bad. Like I said, I wouldn't bet

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Speaker 5: the Raiders with your bunny, but they had ten sacks

767
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Speaker 5: in that game. Ten sacks, I mean, that's just like

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Speaker 5: mind blowing, and Garrett had three of them.

769
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Speaker 4: To your point about the season he's having, I.

770
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Speaker 5: Would not be too enthused to take the Niners this week.

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Speaker 5: I just I feel like that there's probably a stay

772
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Speaker 5: away game, even if it even if it's somehow got

773
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Speaker 5: back on to four and a half, or they say

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Speaker 5: the weather it's just going to be even more terrible

775
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Speaker 5: than they expect it and it gets lower. I just

776
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Speaker 5: feel like that's a game I wouldn't want to mess

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Speaker 5: with unless you could still get six and a half

778
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Speaker 5: with that Browns defense in terrible weather, Yeah, then.

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Speaker 3: You got to smash it. But four and a half

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Speaker 3: is low because again we're talking. We didn't mention shud

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Speaker 3: Or Sanders, and I know the Niners defense ain't great,

782
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Speaker 3: but I'll tell you this, Robert Sala against a rookie

783
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Speaker 3: quarterback making is second start. I'm going to take Sala

784
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Speaker 3: nine times out of ten in that matchup. Let's see,

785
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Speaker 3: is there anything else Sunday that jumps out at you?

786
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Speaker 5: Well, a couple of other things that the Casey Degnant

787
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Speaker 5: bounced off me I can run through the Roe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's hear it.

789
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Speaker 5: So Colts Texans, that's a Texans. I think it's Texans

790
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Speaker 5: at Colts. That went from Colts three and a half

791
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Speaker 5: to four and a half. And Casey Degnant said there

792
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Speaker 5: was some respected action on three and a half on

793
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Speaker 5: Sunday minus three and a half on the Colts. But

794
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Speaker 5: obviously the Texans with that defense, they're going to be

795
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Speaker 5: They're going to be live.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we don't know the whole CJ.

797
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Speaker 5: Stroud situation CD Stroud situation yet, but that's one where

798
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Speaker 5: they saw a sharp respective play on Indianapolis early Bill Steelers.

799
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Speaker 5: That's just going to be a really well bet game.

800
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Speaker 5: And what Casey David said about he said early tickets

801
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Speaker 5: are about even slightly more money on the Bills. But

802
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Speaker 5: he noted that by the time we get to kickoff Sunday,

803
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 5: he said, I'll be surprised if we don't need the Steelers.

804
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Speaker 5: They'll probably want the Steelers outright, because the Bills are

805
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Speaker 5: probably going to be in the money line parlays and such.

806
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Speaker 5: But certainly he thinks they're going to want the Steelers

807
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Speaker 5: to cover come Sunday. That's a really good one. And

808
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Speaker 5: then he just noted that because of the spreads in

809
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Speaker 5: the Sunday and Monday night games being in that touchdown range,

810
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Speaker 5: the Broncos at the Commanders, Broncos laying a touchdown ish

811
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Speaker 5: and then the Giants at the Patriots. He's like, listen,

812
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Speaker 5: if the favorites have a good day on Sunday, and

813
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Speaker 5: really even if they start with the Thursday and Friday games,

814
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Speaker 5: but if the favorites have a good day on Sunday,

815
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Speaker 5: gonna they're really gonna need either the Commanders or the

816
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Speaker 5: Giants to jump up and pulling out right up set

817
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Speaker 5: on Sunday night or Monday night to knock out the

818
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Speaker 5: parlays and the teasers.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with that. It's funny. I just noticed that

820
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Speaker 2: you're right.

821
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Speaker 3: So you know, I had a losing week last week,

822
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Speaker 3: but to bounce back, I always look for layups, you know,

823
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: like a jump shooter misses like eight in a row.

824
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Hey, man, k's got to get a layup. Just see

825
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: the ball go through the hoop.

826
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Speaker 4: Yep, exactly.

827
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Speaker 2: You're right.

828
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Speaker 3: That Sunday night Broncos teased down to win by at

829
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Speaker 3: win by one, and then Patriots teased down to win

830
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Speaker 3: by you know, one and a half, and that seems

831
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Speaker 3: like an easy one. I will say, I know people

832
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: don't like big numbers, but Seattle and Sam Donald against

833
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: the Vikings in what is potentially a revenge spot for

834
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 3: Sam Donald, that team, that Seattle team loves Darnald. Remember

835
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: he had the four picks against the ramsay all defended him.

836
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Speaker 3: And Seattle has really taken some teams behind the woodshed

837
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: at home this year. Saints Arizona. I wouldn't be shocked

838
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: if they just said, hey, Sam, put it on him.

839
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: We're still throwing up thirty to nothing. You know that

840
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: kind of deal, because it doesn't sound like McCarthy's going

841
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: to go right, even though he's terrible.

842
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if he goes or not, I'm not

843
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 5: sure it necessarily matters.

844
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: And this number is to shot up.

845
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Speaker 2: This is what are you seeing now.

846
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Speaker 5: The super book opened eight on Sunday evening, went to

847
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Speaker 5: eight and a half within like half an hour very

848
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Speaker 5: early Monday, to nine, and then nine and a half

849
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Speaker 5: ten and a half, So they were at ten and

850
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Speaker 5: a half by basically Monday afternoon Eastern time, late Monday

851
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 5: morning here in the best time zone. So the betters

852
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 5: are certainly riding Seattle and expecting them to show well.

853
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 5: And like you said, it's a tremendous spot for Darnold.

854
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 5: I'm sure he wants to show.

855
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Speaker 4: That you could have paid me the wrong decision. Yeah,

856
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 4: you could have paid him.

857
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Speaker 2: That battle did not cover though against Tennessee.

858
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Speaker 3: So I wonder if some people back off and it's

859
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Speaker 3: actually an opportunity to maybe lay it with another double digits.

860
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Speaker 3: I think you write in your column that you for

861
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Speaker 3: is inside of the you don't ever a bet double digits? Well,

862
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: what about rams at Panthers? I mean, did you see

863
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: the mass unit. The Panthers were on Monday Night football.

864
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Speaker 3: Now they got a short.

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Speaker 2: Week going home.

866
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Speaker 3: I think MCVII is like something like, you know, ninety

867
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: seven and four against the spread in the UH in

868
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Speaker 3: the one pm window. He just his teams travel so

869
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: well to the East coast. The Panthers have so many injuries.

870
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: Listen if j C warn kick O, if McMillan is

871
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: really banged up, I think two guys on the offensive line.

872
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Speaker 2: They're so beat up. How do they stop the Rams?

873
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

874
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 5: How does anybody stop the Rams? At this point, Matt

875
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Speaker 5: Stafford's having a great season. Rams are now the favorite

876
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Speaker 5: in Super Bowl odds. I believe Stafford is a favorite

877
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Speaker 5: in MVP odds. They're just having a tremendous year. And

878
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 5: every time they're anywhere near the end zone of devont

879
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 5: Adams is catching touchdown.

880
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: So that's that's a tough call.

881
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 5: I'm with you on how well that team can travel

882
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 5: and go on the road and win games and so forth.

883
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: But if you had me say which double digit favorite

884
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 5: anim I gonna take in Week thirteen, I'd probably go

885
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 5: with the you know, ten and a half, It looks

886
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 5: like the Rams for ten and a half as well,

887
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 5: I'd probably go with Seattle at home.

888
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: That offense, when it clicks.

889
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 5: It's really really good, and I would feel a little

890
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 5: more comfortable with that. I think the Rams will win,

891
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: of course, but if I've got a late ten and

892
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 5: a half with either the Rams or the Seahawks, I'll

893
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: take the Seahawks at home and let the Rams be.

894
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: We could wrap up with this one.

895
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: Is the Dolphins minus six against the Saints the biggest

896
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 3: trap on the board.

897
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: I mean, the Miami Dolphins are six point favorites.

898
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: Patrick, you say that out loud, like what this team

899
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: was supposed to fire their coach like four weeks ago,

900
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: exactly exactly.

901
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 5: And not only that, this was a you know, last

902
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: week on the look aheadline at the super Book, it was.

903
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: Five Miami and then went down to four and a half.

904
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 5: But then they came back on Sunday reopened it five

905
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 5: and a half and the first move was up to six.

906
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: I for me, that would be a total stayaway game

907
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: because I just feel like there's something off there. Miami

908
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: just doesn't have the consistency to say, Okay, if I

909
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 5: lay the six, is Minami going to win by seven?

910
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: I mean this you feel like some of these teams

911
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 5: against the you know, against the Saints, should be able

912
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: to you know, pick their score basically. But the Saints

913
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 5: are big competitive in some games and managed to cover

914
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: in some games and won a couple of games people

915
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 5: didn't expect him to win.

916
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 4: So I would just be leaving this alone.

917
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 5: It feels trappy, even though unless, like you said, perhaps

918
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 5: for Survivor, where all you got to do is win

919
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: the game, don't have to cover the number, or if

920
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: you teases down or whatever. But I would I would

921
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 5: consider Miami for Survivor if you don't have better options,

922
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 5: But I'm not sure I would lay the six.

923
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: Okay, all right?

924
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 3: Patrick Everson, he's at Vegas Insider, Fox sports dot com.

925
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got amazing content, Patrick. I have a

926
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: wonderful Thanksgiving man, keep up the great work.

927
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

928
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 5: I appreciate you having me on and you and your

929
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: family have a great Thanksgiving as well.

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00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 4: Good luck,