1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching fs R. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Takes a big, big man to admit he's wrong, sometimes, 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: Moncey Belanios, takes a big, big woman to admit her faults. 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: Somebody today on this show was dead wrong, dead wrong, 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: not dead giveaway, dead wrong when it comes to Anthony 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Richardson and his career as an NFL quarterback. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people feel that way. 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Dan, you think a lot of people also feel that 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: you're dead r. 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: Uhhu that they were dead wrong on Anthony Richardson. 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: We are a show of truth, We are a show 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 2: of character integrity. We will not shy away from some 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: of our faults. One of us here was dead wrong 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: about Anthony Richardson. We're going to get to that in 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: a second. By the way, welcome in. It's a Friday Friday, 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: and here's your bonus. Moncey and I will be with 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: you on Fox Sports Radio for the next four hours. 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: So we're in for Doug gottliegu today. Doug was in 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: for the Herd doing Colin Cowherd. We are then going 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: to be in for Cavino and rich coming up at 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: five o'clock Eastern time, two Pacific. So we got four 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: hours and we're not doing it by ourself. Monzi. Ryan Berschinger. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: Ryan Berschinger is here, as is Iowa Sam. And you 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: heard Isaac at the news desk. That's right, all right, 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: So last night you're at that news desk, yes, and 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: you're about to take in some preseason. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 3: Football exciting right Here. 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: Comes Anthony Richardson out on the field, ready to go, 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: and what do you see? 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: I see what feels like a glitch in a video game. Okay, 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: that's what I see? And like, did he just get 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: did anybody? What is he down on the floor with 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: the game just started? What happened? 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: I felt like a glitch in the video game when 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: I just saw a guy b line and take him 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: down in his what. 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: Third play, second snap was that? 43 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: It happened so fast it felt like a glitch in 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: the system. 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: This is this doesn't happen in preseason games. No, okay, 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: And there is something that needs to be said about 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: how this play happened last night, because there's a there's 48 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: a much bigger topic that we're going to get to. 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: I remember asking former NFL lineman now Fox Sports host 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz about this because Patrick Mahomes would always play 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: in preseason games, and now we're seeing a little bit 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: more of a trend where guys are playing more. At 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: least last night, we saw Joe Burrow play where you're 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: going to get some of the starters getting some action 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: in the preseason and not being held out entirely. And 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: Jeff said, look, you can scheme things up in a 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: way where Patrick Mahomes is not going to get touched, 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: but there's things that you can do within that quarter 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: of the game where he's not gonna get blindsided, he's 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: not gonna get crushed. He's not going to do any 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: of those things because they're the Chiefs and their Patrick Mahomes, 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes knows what he's doing. That was not 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: the case last night for the Indianapolis Colts. And by 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz's review, by Kurt Warner's review by Chase Daniel's review. 65 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: The issue with Anthony Richardson getting sacked last night was 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: not on the Colts offensive line. 67 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: Or the second third stringers. 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it was none of their faults. The fault was 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: on Anthony Richardson. And so Anthony Richardson gets leveled and 70 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: he doesn't read the play correctly. He had a hot 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: route because a guy was coming in clean and the 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: NFL players can break it down and you can find 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: it on social media much better than what I would 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: be able to. But the point is is he had 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: a hot route, didn't hit the running back out of 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: the backfield or the other option, and got absolutely leveled. 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: So all of the discourse that you may have heard 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: it was solely on Anthony Richardson's shoulders last night of 79 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: why he got hit and why that's different from, say, 80 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: something that the Kansas City chief Sir Patrick Mahomes would do. 81 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: It really did seem that way, even though it happened 82 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: so fast, because my perception on it. 83 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: It happened fast. He didn't even look to that side 84 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: of the field. 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: He did not, and being a quarterback is the hardest 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: job in sports, I think it is. He didn't even 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: look to that right side so I was like, was 88 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: was it on him? 89 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: Or was it did somebody else miss block? Miss step? 90 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, but reading all of those former NFL players, 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: former quarterbacks saying no, it was on him, and in 92 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: the moment I thought that, but I couldn't verify because 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: I've never played that position, you know what I mean. 94 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: I was like, did somebody miss the block? And that's 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: why it was a clean straight I'm telling you, a 96 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: glitch in the system. 97 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that nobody was around him. Dude took 98 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: a hit without even knowing it was coming. 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: You say it's a glitch, It's like me playing Madden 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: on Madden level, like when I'm still like on the 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: one that's like right above rookie. Like that's what it is. 102 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: Like a guy came and clean and sacked. You're like, 103 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: uh oh yes. Anthony Richardson gave an explanation on what 104 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: happened on the play last night in Baltimore. 105 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 5: I just got to get my eyes just be able 106 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 5: to know react to that. But just five man pro 107 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: just playing hot, you know, I just gotta be on 108 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 5: my p's and q's when comes to that. It was 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 5: just gonna be hard for me to see anyway because 110 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 5: my eyes are looking a certain way. But how's he 111 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 5: got to be keyed on when when everybody bringing pressures 112 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: like that, I started was about to be the nickel, 113 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: but they brought it from the other side, So I 114 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 5: got to be ready to just get the ball out. 115 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 2: So he took full responsibility. He did, and I feel 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: that that that is good of Anthony Richardson. That's not 117 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: the whole story. The whole story with Anthony and Richardson 118 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: throughout his career hasn't been necessarily the production, which has 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: been a major part of it. It's also manzi been 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: the availability. And last night he gets clobbered. His pinky 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: ends up looking like it's throwing up a gang sign 122 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: like it is. It looked like a compass like it was. 123 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: It was knocked out of sorts on the one hit. 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: And this is the problem with Anthony Richardson. He hasn't 125 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: been available to be able to grow as a quarterback 126 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: because he is always getting injured. And so we look 127 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: at last night and we say, well, he's got to 128 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: be able to make that read. All the former players 129 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: are saying they got to be able to make that read. 130 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: I can I agree with that, I will take their 131 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: word for it. I'll take Anthony Richardson's word for it. 132 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: But the ultimate, the ultimate, overlying thing is that Anthony 133 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: Richardson has not been available to progress in his career, 134 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: which he has needed to do because when he entered 135 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: the NFL he was as raw of a prospect as 136 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: there was in twenty twenty three. So now he's hurt again. 137 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: Missed some a camp this year, missed a bunch of time. 138 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: His rookie last year missed time as well. He's always 139 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: going to get hurt and there's never going to be 140 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: a time where he's going to be healthy enough in 141 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: his career to stay unscathed and be able to get 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: into a rhythm and learn the things that he needs 143 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: to learn. That is the biggest issue that I see 144 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: last night is it's not that Anthony Richardson missed the 145 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: hot route, which I think is the obvious, and so 146 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: he got hurt again, and thank goodness for him. It's 147 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: not a serious injury with his finger, but it's a 148 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: dislocated pinky And every time everything happens, there seems to 149 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: be something going wrong with Anthony Richardson. 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: A dislocated pinky on his throwing hand also not on 151 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: the other one, and he said he was able to 152 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: grip the ball on the sideline and that he was 153 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: going to be fine. 154 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: He's day to day. 155 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: In fact, they're already talking that he's going to be back, 156 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: probably in time to play for their next preseason game. 157 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: But I feel that I agree with you, Dan totally. 158 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: The injuries are a big part of it. But despite 159 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: the injuries, I feel like you should be progressing. You 160 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: should still learn to make that read. 161 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: Even if you've been injured, you've been in the league, 162 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: you've been watching, you need to do that. The Las 163 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: Vegas Raiders had the rookie quarterback Cam Miller in the 164 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: game and he had a short, little stint, but he 165 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: didn't miss the throat. 166 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: He looked elite. 167 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: And so when you see a rookie perform like that, 168 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: and then you have Anthony Richardson, who's not a rookie 169 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: who has been hurt, it's still kind of like, okay, dude, 170 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: so are we done thinking Anthony Richardson has it? 171 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. I'm not trying to handle 172 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: him with kid gloves, but I do think that because 173 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 2: of how how little experience he had coming into the 174 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: National Football League leaving after his redchard sophomore year with Florida. 175 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: He is the guy that needed all of it, and 176 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: some maybe don't. Some guys were maybe in college systems 177 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: their all entire career. In this specific instance, I'm not 178 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: sure on what Cam Miller is all done throughout his career, 179 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: but what I can say is Anthony Richardson needed that time. 180 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: He needed all of those reps. He needs to be 181 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: in cam He's fighting for a job. He's not there 182 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: this offseason, so it's it's inexcusable for him to miss that. 183 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: From what you're saying last night, that read right, that's 184 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: what you're saying. 185 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: I do want to say that, Yeah, yes, you've been injured. 186 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: You should be studying film and still trying to get 187 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 4: it even though you're injured. 188 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: Yes, and I don't. I can't argue with that. My 189 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: point is is that even if he gets it, anytime 190 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: he gets hit, he's hurt. Yeah, And that's so with 191 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: Cam Newton, I think is a great example. I would 192 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: rather take Cam Newton, have eight years of Cam Newton 193 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: and have him be the type of player that he 194 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: was both running the football and throwing the football then 195 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 2: trying to just make him into a passer and take 196 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: away the running game. I think that that's at some 197 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: point josh Allen is not going to be able to 198 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: run like he runs right now. And Josh Allen's developed 199 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: into a great passer. Cam Newton could throw a rocketball 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: sometimes thirty yards over the head of the receiver, but 201 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: Anthony richardson game. Richardson's game is built on his athleticism 202 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: and his arm and everything that he can do with 203 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: his legs and feet, and you have to be healthy 204 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: to be able to do that. So there's a physicality 205 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: towards the game. And if Anthony Richardson is not able 206 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: to be physical because he gets hurt every time that 207 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: he gets hit, I don't know aw he's going to 208 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: be a viable quarterback in the NFL. 209 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 4: You make excellent points, you have to also be able 210 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 4: to just do the job. Though just having the athleticism 211 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: and being injured doesn't help. But like at this point, 212 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: I still I'm standing he should have already progressed from 213 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: his rookie season on how to read that play. 214 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: I can't get wrong, you. 215 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: Know, like, and you're not wrong either. You're not wrong either. 216 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: That the point is like he keeps getting injured and 217 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: he can't get out there, so it's like it's almost 218 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 4: it's like like we're just going in a circle. 219 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: We're just going in a circle. 220 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: I feel that this this Anthony Richardson line. I called 221 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: him a bust earlier this offseason, because there's there's no 222 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: doubt about it. Like even there's some I don't want 223 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: to say salvage with Bryce Young because that's not the 224 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: right word, but Bryce Young is now at least on 225 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 2: an upswing. Like it feels like this hit rock bottom 226 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: a rock bottom. I don't know if Anthony Richardson has 227 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: hit rock bottom. Great point, he's been given the starting 228 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: job both times. Now that he's in a competition, there's 229 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: been maybe a flat like last year there's a game 230 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: against the Jets that he flashed and played well. But 231 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: ultimately availability is the biggest ability for Anthony Richardson in 232 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: my mind. And Monci, this is a This is a 233 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: departure from something that I said two years ago. I 234 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: said this about Anthony Richardson. I was doing a show 235 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: with Brian no leading up to the twenty twenty three 236 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: NFL Draft. This is what I said about the then 237 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: Florida quarterback and what I felt about his future in 238 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: the National Football League. 239 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 6: I almost think Anthony Richardson has to go number one. 240 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 6: It's not meant to be hot. Take now this out there. 241 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 6: He's the best quarterback in the draft. But I use 242 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 6: the prices right example, how many times you go on 243 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 6: price is Right and you're trying to win a car, Right, 244 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 6: Let's go for the car instead of just setting you know, 245 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 6: settling for the for the exercise equipment, right, You're going 246 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 6: for the car. And that's what I think Anthony Richardson is. 247 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: He's the the. 248 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 6: Automobile that you want to win on the price is right. Yeah, 249 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 6: you know, be nice to have Bryce Young, be nice 250 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 6: to have CJ. 251 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: Stroud. 252 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 6: But if you can go away with the automobile and 253 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 6: winning on the price is right, it's what. 254 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: You want to do. 255 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: And how many times are you going to be on 256 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 6: the price is right to win that to win that car? 257 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 6: And I think that's who Anthony Richardson is. Like the 258 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 6: game tape says, one thing, you can watch Bryce Young, 259 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 6: you can watch CJ. Stroud, and you can watch Anthony 260 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 6: Richardson playing games this past fall, and I get it. 261 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 6: Stroud and Bryce Young are gonna be you know, head 262 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 6: and you know head and shoulders above what Anthony Richardson is. 263 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 6: But if you can turn him into Josh Allen, that 264 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 6: is an absolute win for your franchise. Anthony Richardson to me, 265 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 6: is the car on the price is right that you're 266 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 6: gonna go for it no matter what. And so that's 267 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 6: why I start to think, like, if you're a team 268 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 6: and I'm not take the Bears. The Bears have Justin Fields, 269 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 6: see how it works out. He could be their car 270 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 6: for the future. But it's for a team like the Colts, 271 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 6: like the Texans who are sitting there at too. Maybe 272 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 6: it's the Raiders, you know, trying to trade up if 273 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 6: you get to that number one spot. I think he 274 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 6: got to take Anthony. 275 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: Richardson all right. 276 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 4: First of all, I rather play Planko. Second of all, 277 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: he is the car. 278 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: He is the. 279 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 4: Car that you they're not giving you, you know, a Kia. 280 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 4: I have a ky I love my Kia, but Kia 281 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: is not very expensive. He just won, you know, a Maserati. 282 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: And then they're like, oh great, you have to pay 283 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: the taxes on it, and you're like, I don't have 284 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: those taxes. 285 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: I can't afford this. It's that's the situation. 286 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: And like I, I hear you were you weren't right, 287 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: you weren't all right. 288 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: But you weren't the only one. 289 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: A lot of people felt like Anthony Richardson had a 290 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: really high ceiling even after his rookie year where he 291 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: had moments that you were like, this guy is gonna 292 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: be really good. He has the potential to be really 293 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: good injuries. Everybody was like, no, it's this Rooki year, 294 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: and then the injuries haven't gone anywhere. We're kind of 295 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: like in limbo with Anthony Richardson, and that's worse than 296 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: hitting rock Bottom. 297 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: I caught astray from myself by also saying Justin Fields 298 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: could be the future at Chicago, So so I I, 299 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: I I get it, I and I love that you 300 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: stood up for me in a way of that other 301 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: people felt. 302 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: It's so many people and I even saw it too. 303 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: But this limbo we're in, it's it's worse than hitting 304 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: rock Bottom. 305 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't think we're in limbo. And the game show 306 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: I should have used is Let's make a Deal. As 307 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: much as that show annoys me right now, I'm not 308 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: a fan of Let's make it there is they win, 309 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: and there's the zonk. And what I didn't what I 310 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: didn't take into account was that Anthony Richardson could be 311 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: a zonk. And that's what that's what he's been so far. 312 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: There's the car on the other end, at least on 313 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: the prices right. Maybe you do get exercise equipment or 314 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: you leave with nothing, but there's something about getting zonked 315 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: on the on. Let's make a deal. That's the better option. 316 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: In explaining that, I really didn't take into account of losing. Sure, 317 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: I just said, let's go for the jackpot. See people 318 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: play spelling bee on prices right, one of my favorite games. Look, 319 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: you could have five thousand dollars, or you could try 320 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: to win a car, like let's go for the car. Okay, 321 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: you could have four thousand, or because you only have 322 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: a c up there on the board, prices a right. 323 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: Fans know exactly what I'm talking about. They're like, no, 324 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm going for the car. That was me in this 325 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson, just like, just go for it. 326 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: Keep going. 327 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: And I watched every game that C. J. Stroud played 328 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: in his college career. In fact, I took him for 329 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: granted for how good he was in his college career 330 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: at Ohio State. But I was still willing to be like, 331 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: if you want to hit the jackpot, goal for it. 332 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: But I crapped out, hit the zonk, didn't win. And 333 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: that was me two years ago on Anthony Richardson. So 334 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to talk out of both sides of 335 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: my mouth. Was completely wrong on the Analo And the 336 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: reason that I'm wrong, Nancy is as he said, he's 337 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: going to be back next week. But who's to say 338 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: that he's not going to get injured the next time. 339 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: Who's to say he's not gonna tap out the next time, 340 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: which is another thing that has labeled him in his 341 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: career for tapping onto the game that he had last year, 342 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: I believe against the Houston Texans, Like those are those 343 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: are all the things that have happened with Anthony Richardson 344 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: And just when you want it again, how many chances 345 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: can you give the guy before zonking out yourself? 346 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? 347 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: He he do you remember we were sitting here when 348 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: we got the news that Daniel Jones was being signed 349 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: signed by the Colts and there was going to be 350 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: a quarterback competition, and. 351 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: I made a comment. 352 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: I was like well, if Daniel Jones wins that job, 353 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: that's it for Anthony Richardson, Like that's the story. 354 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: That's gonna be the story. 355 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: Sure, and then instead we actually he gets hurt, and 356 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: it's like I don't even know. I feel like this 357 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: is limbo, like we he's just staying afloat and so 358 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: he's not zonked completely, right, He's not. 359 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: He's gonna they're still wondering. 360 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Yes, but he's zonked because he can't play, he can't 361 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: stay on field. Like that's like, that's my that's my 362 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: takeaway on it, in the Daniel Jones part of it, 363 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: because I've actually read some Daniel Jones slander on X today. 364 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 2: At least Daniel Jones is available right now, and that's 365 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: that's the issue. He may not be better, he probably 366 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: isn't better than Anthony Richardson, but at least he's available, 367 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: which is half of the equation that you need it, 368 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: maybe even more so than what Anthony Richardson has provided 369 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: you so far. By the way, where was moncey sound 370 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: of talking about Daniel Jones. We had to have me 371 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: give away the double stray so my own self and 372 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: I didn't realize. Thanks for keeping the Justin Fields part 373 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 2: in as well for us. 374 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: We know how much you liked to talk, so I 375 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: was just saying that Jay, I'll shut up. 376 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: Get Moncy on X at Manzy Blanias. You can find 377 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: me at dan Byer on Fox. Thanks for listening to 378 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: The Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. 379 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to 380 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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Do yourself a favor and 391 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 7: listen to Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, 392 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 7: Apple Podcasts. 393 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: Or wherever you get your podcasts. Not one, not two, 394 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: not three, but now four objects have been thrown on 395 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: the court. Three not full. 396 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 4: At WNBA games, not sitable for work items. 397 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to and I'm sure that we could 398 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: probably say it, but I just don't want to keep 399 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: on saying it and saying it and saying it. We 400 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: know what we're talking about. Last night there was a 401 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: purple one thrown out onto the floor, but I felt 402 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: last night it jumped the shark. I felt that last 403 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: night's action in the WNBA game, where now it's enough 404 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: is enough. I don't know if those things again happened 405 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: in three like deaths, but the fourth seemed like a 406 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: little too much, Manzi. Last night in the WNBA you. 407 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 4: Could even argue maybe the third one was a little 408 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 4: bit too much. I agree, it's not funny anymore. And 409 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: I thought it was funny the first time. I'm not 410 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: gonna lie. I thought it was funny seeing that green 411 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: color thing go flying. 412 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: It was funny. I'm not gonna lie. 413 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: But now it's like, okay, can we move on from it? 414 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: Because if you're just gonna keep doing this, then the WNBA, 415 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: the product that they're trying to push at a time 416 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 4: when your stars are hurt, this is the last thing 417 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: the w NBA needs that this is the topic of conversation. Oh, 418 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: let's look up if it something went flying last night. 419 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: We're not looking up Angel Reicie's stats because she's not playing. 420 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: You're not looking up Kaitlin Clark's SATs because she's not playing, 421 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 4: and Paige Becker's is playing, but she's on a on 422 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 4: a team that's ever good, and so it's just like, 423 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: what are this is what people are looking up, and 424 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 4: that's bad. 425 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: And it's not funny. 426 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: It's just it's it's getting to the point where it 427 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: is becoming disrespectful. Yes, I agree with it, it's becoming disrespectful. 428 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 4: And even Sophie Cunningham her tweet after the first of 429 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: the second when she's like, you're gonna hit one of 430 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 4: us and one almost hit her. That was funny, Like 431 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 4: even some of these players are trying to make light 432 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 4: of it, but at some point. 433 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: It's straight up just disrespectful. 434 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: And whoever does it next, I hope you spend a 435 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: week in jail, a week and week in jail so 436 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: nobody else does it, because because if you just tell 437 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: them that, okay, you're gonna be in detention for a 438 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: couple of hours. 439 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: Some other somebody else is gonna. 440 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: Do it, Yes, so a week in jail an example. 441 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: Yes, or else it's going to keep happy or other 442 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 4: items are going to be thrown. 443 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: I think there's going to be an There would be 444 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: a turn with the fans of of who would do it. 445 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: So I think it would be easy to capture whoever. 446 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: At first, like it's funny, like when we even when 447 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: we saw it in the Buffalo Bill's game, like you're 448 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 2: just like, all right, that's Bill's mafia. It is what 449 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: it is, and it is. 450 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: It is different when it's a men completely, it's different. 451 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: And that's why it's actually funnier. In the NFL. It's 452 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: fun actually, I do, especially when people are kicking it 453 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: because nobody, again, nobody wants to nobody wants to grab 454 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: or do anything with it. But I got to the 455 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: point last night and I don't know if it was 456 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: because it was a different color or what the reason was, 457 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: but it just crossed the line. And now Cheryl Reeve 458 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: of the Minnesota Lynx went off on the conversation, and 459 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: I think what she said was correct, and to your point, 460 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: it's been very disrespectful. I started thinking of because I'm 461 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: a parent, and if you're taking kids to games and 462 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: this is now happening, they're going to start to ask questions. 463 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: And I don't know the question that I would have, 464 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: and I don't I hope it doesn't sound like get 465 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: off my lawn, guy, But I know that the WNBA 466 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: does cater to children and young girls and bringing them 467 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: in and youth teams, and you would have games of 468 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: the afternoon because it's easier for those fans to attend. 469 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: At first, it was funny, ha ha, you see it, 470 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: And now I'm digging in deeper and saying like, I 471 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: just don't know, like how I would explain that. And 472 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: if I was a parent my kid loved basketball, I 473 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: would hate to have to have that have to be 474 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: the conversation on the way home, especially if the crowd 475 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: and everybody was making something about it. 476 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 4: You're you're a one hundred percent right that the WNBA 477 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 4: does bring a very friendly crowd. 478 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: They purposely have those early games. 479 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: I don't know what you say to kids that are 480 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: there and asking what is that again? First time funny, 481 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: but now it doesn't seem like it's going away, especially 482 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: because they came out and took responsibility for it that 483 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 4: they were trying to promote a crypto coin of some sort. 484 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say what happened last night was a copycat, 485 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 4: not the people who took responsibility for it. 486 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: So it's just gonna keep. 487 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: Happening unless something bad happens to the next person who 488 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: does it. And it doesn't even have to be law enforcement. Imagine, 489 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: just imagine Angel Reese gets hit in the head with one. 490 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 4: People are gonna lose their minds. Sure in the arena, 491 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: they're gonna be it's gonna be people taking the person down. 492 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 3: It's not even gonna be LA enforcement taking the person down. 493 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: I think that Sophie Cunningham has been great throughout this 494 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: because she made the tweet and then she gets hit 495 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: by number three and she goes on her own podcast 496 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: explains that she's having conversations with her mom, you know, 497 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: about this, and she's like, I never in my wildest 498 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: dreams thought I up to that point that's funny. Last 499 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: night it just stopped being funny anymore. It did, and 500 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: I came across that on my timeline just like okay, 501 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: all right this again, Like I just it's one of 502 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: those things where you don't know where the line is crossed, 503 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: and I felt that it ended up being crossed last night. 504 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: It was funny for us, it's funny for social media, money, 505 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: for people our age. Now I'm trying to think of 506 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 2: the other people that could be affected, including the players 507 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: and coaches. I mean, at some point you're being mocked 508 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: in whatever way, and that can't feel good. And then 509 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: I think about just explaining it to your kids if 510 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: you're bringing them to a game, and that's not why. 511 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: It's bad enough, Like I worry about, like I think 512 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: about like fan behavior. I'm like, I don't want to 513 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: take my kid to a game. And we've seen fights 514 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: in you know, ballparks and the football stadiums, and I 515 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: always feel bad for the parents who are like trying 516 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: to keep away their kid in a Dak Prescott Jersey, 517 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: you know, or something like that, or you know Clayton 518 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: Kershaw Jersey and there's a fight that's breaking out and 519 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: you're trying to protect them. How do you explain that, 520 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: because that's a world that you don't want them in. 521 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: How do you explain this? I have I have no idea. 522 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have no idea what to say, and just hope, 523 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: just hope that they didn't see what was actually thrown 524 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: onto the court. 525 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, that's hope that it's not gonna happen. 526 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 6: Dan. 527 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 4: The way social media is, it's at your fingertips. It's 528 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: at your fingertips to see it. It's it's disrespectful at 529 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: this point, there's no question about it. You could even 530 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 4: argue it was disrespectful the first time. But the first 531 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: time it just was funny. It was funny that green 532 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: thing flying around. 533 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 3: It was funny. 534 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: Now not so much show of hands. I know this 535 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: doesn't work in the audio medium. Well, there's five of us. 536 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Mancy and I are both have our hand raised. I'm 537 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: thinking that it crossed the line last night. How many 538 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: of you felt that it crossed the line last night 539 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: in the w NBA. Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna say 540 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: I thought was the third time I thought this has 541 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: been gotten old? After the third you thought even the 542 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: third to yes. 543 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 8: Because you okay, it comes down to the very fundamental 544 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 8: idea that you're going to hurt somebody. You can't throw 545 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 8: things from the crowd, period period. So even if it's 546 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 8: funny and it's a rubber device or whatever, an object. 547 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: Cutting him got hit by the third one, right, yeah, yes, yeah, 548 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: but she's kind of part of it, that's what that's 549 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: what kind of made it funny. And then that she's 550 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: kind of played along with it. So that's why I 551 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: guess I wasn't necessarily offended by the third one. 552 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 8: In a fifth and a sixth, it's going to just 553 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 8: happen until we're just like, okay, stop, no one's amused 554 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 8: by this anymore. 555 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: And even if they do no bag or clear bag policy, 556 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 4: it's like, you just put this in your pocket or something, 557 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: drip it around your leg. 558 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm telling you, that's all you got 559 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: to do. And that's what they're doing. That's what they're doing. 560 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, just put it in your pocket. 561 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: Your pocket. 562 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: All these girls were coming up to me in the concourse. 563 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: I have no idea why. I have no idea why. 564 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 2: I was just walking to get a soda and then 565 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: like twenty girls came up to me and we're like, 566 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: what's up? Even a couple of even a couple of bags. 567 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 9: Yeah. 568 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, I didn't have to pay for 569 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: any of this, sixty eight dollars worth of food, none 570 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: of it. 571 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: None of it, And you don't know why. 572 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: She's woncil, so I'm dan byer Isaac long Grown is embarrassed. 573 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: I'm pursing her. She's the one that said to put 574 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: it into your pockets, because I think I figured the 575 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: neon green aspect of it would make it tough to 576 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: hide anyway if you had it, and a how do 577 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: you think? 578 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 3: What do you think they put it? 579 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I don't want to know. 580 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to know. I hope we don't see 581 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: it anymore. You don't throw it like a football. It's 582 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: like end over end right like that's yes, yes, like 583 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: a boomerang. I did ax throwing last night. I imagine it's fast, okay, okay, 584 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: all right, now it's jumped a show. Now it's over 585 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: with all right. It's the Doug Gottlit Hike here on 586 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Frigia. Oh geez, all right, we're done. We're done. 587 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: We may be done for good. I don't know. Yeah, yes, 588 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: I've tried to keep it above water as much as 589 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: we could, and now I think we're sitting day. Thanks 590 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. 591 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three 592 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: to five Eastern twelve, two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 593 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Find your local station for the Doug Gotliep Show at 594 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: Foxsports Trada dot com, or stream us live every day 595 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 596 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Jacksonville Jaguars could beat the 597 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, but today they do. On Fox Sports Radio, 598 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in 599 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes or so. Because Mahomes had some interesting 600 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: comments to make about his performance, we'll just leave it 601 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: at that about his performance in one certain area. Yeah, 602 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: that's in fifteen minutes, but we start in Jacksonville. This 603 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: doesn't happen too often, but Mancy, I'm telling you why 604 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: it's happening and the reason why it's happening. And this 605 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: is the whole reason behind Jacksonville trading up in the draft. 606 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: If I were to say to you, Mancy, name me 607 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: a famous Dallas cowboy. 608 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: You know you just did this to me the other day, right. 609 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: Okay, just any Dallas cowboy could be current, could be 610 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: former cowboy, could be could be current former Dak Prescott. 611 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: Let's just say that perfect, all right. What about if 612 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: I were to say to you give me a give 613 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: me a New England Patriot, famous New England Patriot, current 614 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: or former Tom Brady Kansas City Chief Patrick Mahomes. All right, look, 615 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: this is this is really good Indianapolis Colts pastor former. 616 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: Pastor, uh Peyton Manning. 617 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: There you go like this is this is look and 618 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to put you off the hook. Iowa, Sam, Okay, 619 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you give me a famous Minnesota Viking. Anyone? 620 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: I got one? Yes, Randy Moss, perfect, that's perfect. There 621 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: are no wrong answers here. What about if I said 622 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: Detroit think of that running back? Why am I spacey today? 623 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 6: I don't know? 624 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: From Minnesota? Adrian Peterson, I'm. 625 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: Slow today, He's still it was still thinking. 626 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: I was like staring off into space on that one 627 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagle. Anybody want Donovan McNabb All right, ron Jo 628 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: wars kat Okay, okay, all right now, now we're starting 629 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: to go into interesting territory. 630 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 631 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: When I say Jacksonville Jaguar, who do we say? Exactly 632 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: my point? See, we could do this for thirty one Titans. 633 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: Steve McNair, Eddie George, like, we've got it. Now there 634 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: are jaguar players that we know, but there's never been 635 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: a true star in Jacksonville. Did somebody else just just 636 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: tweet in Ceedee Lamb when we asked about the Cowboys 637 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: that they went in on the Packers and say Brett 638 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: fav or Aaron Rodgers. So when Jacksonville trades up to 639 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: get Travis Hunter and they give Cleveland their first round 640 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: pick next year as part of the deal, they weren't 641 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: necessarily only doing it because Travis Hunter could do two 642 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: things for them offense and defense. They're doing it because 643 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: this franchise is dying, dying for a star. And we 644 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: see how stars work in the NBA and for the NFL. 645 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: Even though it seems like nothing affects the NFL whatsoever, 646 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: there are stars within the game. They're just there are 647 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: and they have never really had one. And that's why 648 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: I think Travis Hunter is so important to them. And 649 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: what I love about the Jacksonville Jaguars and why they're 650 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: on the same page is they've tried a bunch of 651 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: different things, right. They tried to bring an urban Meyer 652 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: to change the direction and put in his style and 653 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: his stamp. Well, that doesn't work out, So let's just 654 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: bring in a guy who can fix Trevor Lawrence and 655 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: who won a Super Bowl, Doug Peterson. That ends up 656 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 2: fizzling out in Jacksonville. So now you're bringing Liam Cohen 657 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: and you're going to try to do something different as 658 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: you now are making inroads for all of the times 659 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: you've played in London. Manzi, they finally have a superstar. 660 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: And I love ow Jacksonville is leaning in to Travis 661 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: Hunter being a superstar. 662 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: I'm with you because when the story of Travis Hunter 663 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 4: came out that he still wanted to play both defense 664 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: and offense in the NFL, most people were like, that's 665 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 4: not gonna happen. You can't possibly do that and be 666 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: successful at it. I think Derrick Henry was the most 667 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: recent one who just said it's like, yeah, in theory, 668 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: that's great, Like, Okay, you can do that, but can 669 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 4: you really do that for an entire game, for an 670 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: entire season, for your entire career. Like the idea of 671 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: it sounds awesome, especially when you have a show Hey 672 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: Otani in La the Unicorn, Like the idea sounds really cool, 673 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: but I feel like there was so much pushback from 674 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: former players current players that it's like that's it's not 675 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: gonna work in the NFL, and yet here is Jacksonville, 676 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: and like, we're still gonna try, even though all of 677 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 4: you are telling us it can't possibly work and be successful, 678 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 4: We're still gonna try. 679 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: And I love that. I don't know how it's gonna go. 680 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: I also wonder if there are if the NFL themselves 681 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: or like coaches, young coaches in college are hoping that 682 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 4: Jacksonville doesn't do this, because you know, there's gonna be 683 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: young kids out there that the minute they see this, 684 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: they're gonna be like, well, if you can do it, 685 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 4: I can do it. And the reality is like, no, 686 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 4: just because Steph Curry can shoot the ball like that 687 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 4: doesn't mean you can. Just because Travis Hunter can do 688 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: this doesn't. 689 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: Mean that you can. 690 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: And I feel like maybe that's the only side of 691 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 4: it that I wonder if if people are against Jacksonville 692 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: actually jumping all in. 693 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: But I like it. I like it. I wasn't expecting it. 694 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: There was so much pushback. 695 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: It's very easy, especially the chairs that you and I occupy, 696 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: or I'm sitting in a chair, you're standing, but in 697 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: the spots that we occupy to say can't do it right, 698 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: can't do it. 699 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, can't do it. 700 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to sit there and say it can't 701 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: be done. You need to focus on one or the other. 702 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: What I'm curious about is is what's the bar, Like, 703 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: what's the bar for Travis Hunter offensively? Where we're like, 704 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: this is a success. What's the bar defensively? Because when 705 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: the Jaguars released this depth chart, he's first team offense, 706 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: second team defense right now, and so then that tells 707 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: me you're really leaning into this as as something and 708 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: I feel we compared Travis Hunter to Dion Sanders, who 709 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 2: was the best cornerback in the National Football League who 710 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: played on offense. I'm not going to quiz you guys, 711 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: but I'm going to ask the question, does anybody here 712 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: have an idea of what Deon's best season was? Receiving anyone? 713 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: It was thirty six catches for four hundred and seventy 714 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 2: five yards and one touchdown. That was it. That was it. Now, 715 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: we put Deon on a pedestal because you play play 716 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: baseball and football at the same time. But when we're 717 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: talking about a two way player just in football, we 718 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 2: also point to Deon Sanders and say, well, what can 719 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: what did Deon Sanders do, that was it. That was 720 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: his best season. He didn't have a season with more 721 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: than seven catches after that year in Dallas in nineteen 722 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: ninety six. That was it. So if Travis Hunter goes 723 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: out and has more than five hundred yards receiving and 724 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 2: forty catches, it may be the best two way player 725 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 2: that we've seen, considering what Deon Sanders actually did. And 726 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: I just love the fact that Jacksonville is saying, you 727 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: know what, like truly, Monci, the team's success is dependent 728 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 2: upon Trevor Lawrence and whether he is healthy and whether 729 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: he can play or not. The team's popularity is dependent 730 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: on Travis Hunter, and they're leaning full bore into that. 731 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: You're not wrong and going with that focus thing. 732 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence came out and said, like, yeah, I want 733 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 4: him to just focus on offense because I want him 734 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 4: to catch the ball. 735 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: I want to throw him the ball. 736 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: So it's I know they're they're making it out to 737 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 4: be that they are going to use him on both 738 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 4: sides of the I wonder if when Week one comes around, 739 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: if it's really gonna be like that, or if right 740 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 4: now they're just testing the water, like you said, bringing 741 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: the eyes bringing the attention to Jacksonville because everybody. 742 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: Is interested to see how this is gonna go. 743 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 4: Yes, everyone, this is the most intriguing storyline right now 744 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 4: for me. Shador Sanders probably coming in close to the 745 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 4: two and three when it comes to him starting with 746 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 4: the Browns in this preseason game. But everyone wants to 747 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 4: see how Travis Hunter handles doing this because we've never 748 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 4: seen it, and so I don't know what's gonna happen 749 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 4: once preseason is over, And I wonder if Trevor Lawrence 750 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 4: will have any say on this also as his quarterback 751 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 4: of I want you to focus on offense. 752 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, I think Liam Cohen will have 753 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: the ultimate say because he's the head coach and I 754 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: get Trevor Lawrence's need. But whatever Liam Cohen ends up 755 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: deciding is what's going to happen. Because here's what the 756 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: head coach had to say earlier this week. Do you 757 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: think he can be offensive and defensive rookie of the 758 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: Year in the same year. 759 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 9: I do think it's possible. He is committed man like 760 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 9: he is committed to driving not just himself, but his 761 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 9: teammates as well, and I think that his teammates, like 762 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 9: these guys are challenging him every single day, like he 763 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 9: doesn't get a free pass because he was the second 764 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 9: overall pick in the East, Travis Hunter like they are 765 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 9: in his grill, trying to jam him up, trying to 766 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 9: hem him up, trying to make it as hard as 767 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 9: they can possibly make it for him in a great way, 768 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 9: like in the most healthy way as possible, where they're 769 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 9: going at it and chirping at each other. But it's 770 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 9: truly guy's iron sharpening iron. That's what it feels like. 771 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 9: And I wouldn't expect anything less from those guys. 772 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 2: That was Liam Cohen with Rich Eisen earlier this week. 773 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: So Mancy, it's not even the question of can he 774 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: play both ways? It's can he excel to the point 775 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: where he's the rookie of the year in both And 776 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 2: they're leaning into it, Like I think that's that's amazing. 777 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 2: I think that that's great because there's so many so 778 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 2: much I can't, he can't, they can't, we can't, And 779 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: here Jacksonville is just completely leaning into it. And time 780 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: will tell. We'll find out in Week seventeen. Week eighteen 781 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 2: on how Travis Hunters has progressed but in mentioning Dion Sanders, 782 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 2: no better guy to be your college coach and mentor 783 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: throughout your you know, developing years into a professional than 784 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 2: having the guy that everybody is also comparing you to. 785 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 2: And I know Dion believes in Travis Hunter, and Liam 786 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 2: Cohen believes in Travis Hunter, and apparently his teammates believe 787 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 2: in Travis Hunter. I think it's amazing what Jacksonville is 788 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: doing and the reason why they are doing so may 789 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: have dollar signs at the end of it, but this 790 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: team needs a superstar and they're leaning into it. 791 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 4: And I love it, even if it is for dollar signs. 792 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: This is the right move. Like you said, they traded 793 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 4: up for him. How crappy would have been if you 794 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 4: traded up for him and then you're like, no, he's 795 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 4: just going to focus on one side of the ball. 796 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 4: They'd be like there was a point, Yeah, it was 797 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 4: a boy. This we that's not what we want to 798 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: see in Travis Hunter. And with so many no's and 799 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 4: so many like you just said, you can't do this, 800 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 4: it's refreshing to see Jacksonville take this other approach. 801 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 2: She's Monzie Millennio, so I'm Dan Byer It's the Doug 802 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.