Speaker 1: So he goes off to New York, and I'm really
Speaker 1: proud of him, and I'm excited. I never knew anybody
Speaker 1: that was on that show. Two weeks later, I got
Speaker 1: a call from him from Laura Michael's house. He goes,
Speaker 1: Kevin'm in the back bedroom Laura Michael's house out in
Speaker 1: the Long Island. I guess who's in the kitchen, Bill Murray.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no way. He goes, yeah, anyway, Lauren
Speaker 1: is looking for one more cast member. I told him
Speaker 1: about you, and I think he's gonna want to see
Speaker 1: your audition tapes. And I'm like, Bill Murray's in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even hearing that other shoff. You know, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even believe. I didn't even want to acknowledge it
Speaker 1: because I knew i'd never get on that show because
Speaker 1: I don't think characters are accents. I'm just to stand
Speaker 1: up a really really good stand up. Hi. My name
Speaker 1: is Kevin Neelan, and I have a real sugar addiction.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Hello, friends, and welcome back to another
Speaker 1: episode of Off the Beat. I am your host, Brian Baumgartner.
Speaker 1: As you just heard, Kevin Nilan the Kevin Nelon is
Speaker 1: my guest on the podcast today. Kevin happens to be
Speaker 1: a good friend and one of my favorite golfing partners
Speaker 1: of all time. Now, not only does he have the
Speaker 1: same name as the best character on the Office, Kevin Malone,
Speaker 1: but he's also had the career of a lifetime starring
Speaker 1: on s n L Late Night with David Letterman, Man
Speaker 1: with a Plan, and of course Weeds. Plus he's recently
Speaker 1: become quite the YouTube star with his hilarious web series
Speaker 1: Hiking with Kevin. From his open mic days to now,
Speaker 1: We're going to dive into Kevin's incredible career as well
Speaker 1: as some of his hidden talents. Did you know that
Speaker 1: he is an extremely talented caricaturist. I would say that
Speaker 1: I'm surprised, but I'm honestly not. If you are Kevin Neilan,
Speaker 1: you really can do everything. I won't keep you waiting
Speaker 1: here he is Kevin Neil. Bubble and Squeak. I love it.
Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak, Bubble and Squeaker cookie every month left
Speaker 1: over from the Natty People. Hello, Kevin, how are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love you. Got a big staff working for you.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, this is what happens when you're a Kevin.
Speaker 1: I guess right, No, I know it. Don't you have
Speaker 1: a big staff. I don't. I'm self contained. I just
Speaker 1: don't know that I need it. I definitely do, there's
Speaker 1: no question about that. I can't here if I've ever
Speaker 1: told you before. The very first time that I met you,
Speaker 1: we were playing golf together. I think we're playing in
Speaker 1: the same tournament, in the same tournament. This is circa,
Speaker 1: not circa was actually two thousand and eight. I looked
Speaker 1: it up fifteen years ago. Fourteen years ago, you and
Speaker 1: myself and Charles Barkley, we were playing in a threesome
Speaker 1: together in Lake Tahoe. We teet off and we had
Speaker 1: well because of you and Charles. Mostly we had a
Speaker 1: large gallery following us. I was very nervous. We teed off.
Speaker 1: All I know is we didn't hit our balls in
Speaker 1: the same place. They were definitely in different areas, and
Speaker 1: we were walking not together, down the fairway and a
Speaker 1: bunch of people started yelling Kevin Kevin. Me being me,
Speaker 1: of course, assumed that they were yelling Kevin at me,
Speaker 1: because at the time especially everyone called me Kevin. And
Speaker 1: I remember turning around big Aisle on my face and
Speaker 1: waving graciously to the gallery and they were fully talking
Speaker 1: to you. I remember being so humil so so humiliated,
Speaker 1: and filled with like self loathing, like, of course they're
Speaker 1: talking to Kevin Neil and not me, what are you thinking.
Speaker 1: I probably didn't even share that with you at the
Speaker 1: time because I was so embarrassed and nervous about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I will tell you you don't have to be embarrassed
Speaker 1: because that group of people were probably my family and
Speaker 1: my friends, and they wear their team meal and T
Speaker 1: shirts and they will do that on occasional holes. But
Speaker 1: I will tell you I was. It took me like
Speaker 1: five years of that tournament to get over being nervous.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even hit the ball. I was like duffinite,
Speaker 1: you know, taking big divots out and when the camera
Speaker 1: was on me, I was just a mess. It truly
Speaker 1: is my favorite week of the year. I try to
Speaker 1: get better. It's always embarrassing, but you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: incredibly humbling for sure to be out there. I love
Speaker 1: it all right, Enough about golf. Uh, You grew up
Speaker 1: in Connecticut and I read as a child. You lived
Speaker 1: in Germany for a while. I did relocated there or
Speaker 1: was that a life choice, sir. Yeah, my father worked
Speaker 1: for a helicopter companies, the Course Keys, and they had
Speaker 1: a deal with a German I guess my father calls
Speaker 1: it a German outfit. For the longest time, I thought
Speaker 1: he worked for later Housing, you know, but it was
Speaker 1: another helicopter company. And unlike a lot of the military
Speaker 1: who lived on the army base, we lived in a
Speaker 1: German neighborhood, so my friends are mostly German. So I
Speaker 1: picked it up pretty quickly. And you became fluent in German,
Speaker 1: you know, in just four years. And I was six
Speaker 1: until I was ten. I mean, those are the years
Speaker 1: you absorb everything. Right. My sister and her husband and
Speaker 1: their two kids actually right about your age. They just
Speaker 1: did the same thing. He got moved over there through
Speaker 1: his work, and their kids were about the same age.
Speaker 1: And we're located in Stuttgart for three years. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like that change you as a child, to that
Speaker 1: give you something you feel like? Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't remember at the time if I left friends
Speaker 1: in Connecticut and it was bummed out, but you know,
Speaker 1: it was the first throw one on an airplane, and
Speaker 1: you know, Europe is not that big, and there's so
Speaker 1: many countries there. So during my father's vacations, we would drive,
Speaker 1: like to Paris, or we drive. I learned how to
Speaker 1: ski in the Alps. I learned how to swim in Greece,
Speaker 1: and it was like probably the best time in my life.
Speaker 1: You know. I could ski in my front yard. You
Speaker 1: know they had apple orchards and I put on a
Speaker 1: pair of skis and skied down and walk up the hill.
Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah. My sister did the same thing, traveled
Speaker 1: all around yeah, and skied and the Alps and exactly
Speaker 1: what you said. And I mean to be exposed to
Speaker 1: so many different cultures and countries and languages at such
Speaker 1: an early age, that's an incredible life experience, right, it
Speaker 1: really is, It really is. I got my Irish passport
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago because I thought it'd be
Speaker 1: great to live in Europe for a while. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: meet a visa and I could work there and bring
Speaker 1: my family. That's my bucket list. So I might do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe after my son goes off to college, my wife
Speaker 1: and I will go there and then he'll come in
Speaker 1: the summer. You have dual citizenship, I do, yeah, because
Speaker 1: my grandparents are from Ireland. They came over from Ireland,
Speaker 1: so that made me eligible. But I had to jump
Speaker 1: through a lot of hoops to get that passport, a
Speaker 1: lot of paperwork, had to get a lot of certificates
Speaker 1: to gret My to get my grandfather's death certificate, which
Speaker 1: was not easy because first I had to kill him.
Speaker 1: You know, come on, and those Irish guys, they don't
Speaker 1: go down easy. No, no, they don't. I am going
Speaker 1: out of order here, but I just went back and
Speaker 1: watched several of your earliest appearances on The Tonight Show
Speaker 1: with Johnny Carson. I did, and it kind of cut off.
Speaker 1: The video was kind of cut off. It seemed like
Speaker 1: he was almost mid sentence and said something and said
Speaker 1: a man with a very interesting sense of humor or
Speaker 1: something like that. Absurd, I think, absurd, Yeah, absurd sense
Speaker 1: of humor. Yeah. Well, you know, I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: I auditioned for the part of Michael in the office. Yes,
Speaker 1: and apparently I got I'm told, like close to getting it.
Speaker 1: You didn't get it. You weren't, Michael Skote. No, No,
Speaker 1: maybe I was for half a second, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that would have. I used to go on auditions
Speaker 1: against Steve Carrell a lot, and he would always get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what do you remember about that audition experience? I
Speaker 1: remember going into the Bungalow Universal Greg Daniels, who I've
Speaker 1: known from SNL. He was a writer on SNL. I
Speaker 1: sat down to a chair and I did my part
Speaker 1: and he goes, thank you, like we didn't even know
Speaker 1: each other, thank you very much. And I left and uh,
Speaker 1: and then here back. I didn't hear back at all.
Speaker 1: But you know, I was up for a show when
Speaker 1: I first moved to l A. If we could talk
Speaker 1: about me for a minute, I was in l A
Speaker 1: maybe two or three years. I was twenty seven by
Speaker 1: that time. And I got an audition at Paramount and
Speaker 1: I got five callbacks, and I thought, oh, this is it. Finally,
Speaker 1: after toiling for three long years, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: a show. And the producers after the fifth time, they
Speaker 1: look at each other they go, well, we're not get
Speaker 1: any closer than this. And I walked outside of at office,
Speaker 1: I looked at Paramount. I thought, well, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: my new home. Week goes by two weeks, I don't
Speaker 1: hear anything, and then I hear they're looking for an
Speaker 1: older actor for the role, and that part was for
Speaker 1: it was for Sam and Cheers. Really, yeah, you auditioned
Speaker 1: for Sam Malone on Cheers and for Michael Scott on
Speaker 1: the Office and got neither of them. That's right, But
Speaker 1: I did get other things, so I can't complain. No,
Speaker 1: you can't know. It's funny, you know the Coursier life takes.
Speaker 1: Had I gotten that show, I would be probably with
Speaker 1: my same wife here. I wouldn't be on my second marriage.
Speaker 1: But enough about me. Where are you from? I'm from Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 1: and I didn't live in Germany. I didn't. I certainly
Speaker 1: didn't audition for Sam Malone on Cheers. You wanted to
Speaker 1: be a stand up? Is that what you wanted to be?
Speaker 1: That's all I wanted to be. It was a stand up.
Speaker 1: I went to school for marketing. I have a BS
Speaker 1: and marketing, but stand up was really what I loved.
Speaker 1: You know. I would watch every stand up comic on
Speaker 1: every talk show from merv Griffin to the Tonight Show
Speaker 1: with Johnny Carson, and I would highlight their name and
Speaker 1: the TV guide and you know, be sure to watch them,
Speaker 1: like you know, George Miller and David Letterman and and
Speaker 1: I thought, that's the coolest job. But I remember, I've
Speaker 1: never been to California, but I went to New York
Speaker 1: or check out the comedy clubs. That terrified me because
Speaker 1: the audience was so brash and tough in the comics
Speaker 1: like Richard Belzer would come out and they were like
Speaker 1: real New Yorkers. So I decided to go to l A.
Speaker 1: And the day I remember I made that decision, I
Speaker 1: was raking leaves in my front yard at my parents home,
Speaker 1: and I had a radio out there so I could
Speaker 1: listen to the music. And then the news came on
Speaker 1: and said Freddie Prince, the comedian from back in the eighties,
Speaker 1: had killed himself. And for some morbid reason, I thought, well,
Speaker 1: there's an opening in l A. You know, first stand
Speaker 1: up it is because it was really it wasn't because
Speaker 1: of that though. It made me realize how big of
Speaker 1: an impact comedy could have on the world. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I thought, that's that's really um my impetus to go
Speaker 1: out there. And also I get to see California, right,
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me. Obviously, you became famous on s
Speaker 1: n L, which is known for much more of the
Speaker 1: improv people from Second City and whatever, and that that
Speaker 1: stand up was really your focus and wanting to do that.
Speaker 1: Did you want to be an actor even or was
Speaker 1: it really about making people laugh or being on stage?
Speaker 1: And be All I wanted to be was a stand
Speaker 1: up I loved Steve Martin. I discovered Steve Barton. A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that, but I knew him
Speaker 1: from doing his you know little bits on SNL or
Speaker 1: The Tonight Show, and nobody else had heard of him.
Speaker 1: And then people started like hearing about him. I thought, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's my comic, that's mine, you know. But stand up
Speaker 1: was what I really wanted to do, and I'm still
Speaker 1: doing it, like forty three years later. And as far
Speaker 1: as being an actor, I really had no intention to
Speaker 1: be an actor. I remember I was sitting at the
Speaker 1: bar at the improv and Mark Lano, who was teaching
Speaker 1: an acting class and he was but Freeman's partner. Eventually,
Speaker 1: who wants the improv? He asked me? If I thought
Speaker 1: about acting? You said, not not really, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to stand up. He goes, well, even if you think
Speaker 1: about it, you know, take a lesson. Maybe I teach
Speaker 1: cold reading and sometimes these casting agents come into the
Speaker 1: room and they'll see a comic and they want to
Speaker 1: come in for an audition. I thought okay, and so
Speaker 1: I took some acting classes around l A and went
Speaker 1: through that whole I don't know if you went through this,
Speaker 1: but that whole rigular role of auditioning. You know that
Speaker 1: the nerves that come with that, and the humiliation, it's
Speaker 1: so difficult, and it's so it's so antithetical to what
Speaker 1: we actually do right, whether it's performing on stage or
Speaker 1: being in front. You know that, like five people sitting
Speaker 1: in a room staring at you not laughing, is so
Speaker 1: it's unnatural and difficult, and you feel like, just give
Speaker 1: me a camera or tind me a real audience. It's
Speaker 1: so difficult. I remember I had an audition for McDonald's
Speaker 1: commercial ones. The part called for somebody so upset about
Speaker 1: the Big Mac. They had a cry and I had
Speaker 1: just broken up with my girlfriend or she broke up
Speaker 1: with me, and I was devastated. I was so depressed
Speaker 1: I couldn't get out of bed. I pulled myself out
Speaker 1: of bed into this commercial and I got in front
Speaker 1: of them. Was like the judges on American Idol, sitting
Speaker 1: behind the table. When it got to the part where
Speaker 1: I had a cry, I let loose and they're looking
Speaker 1: at me so sympathetically, and oh that's poor, you know.
Speaker 1: And uh, after the audition was over, they just sat
Speaker 1: there like an awe and just you know, like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this guy is amazing. Two or three weeks later,
Speaker 1: I got a call back. But now I'm kind of
Speaker 1: over the girl, so I can't bring the tears, you know.
Speaker 1: So I brought my answering machine tape. At the time,
Speaker 1: they have those little tapes and the answer machine. I
Speaker 1: brought that and I sat in the car outside with
Speaker 1: her eight by ten headshot and I played her breaking
Speaker 1: up with me over and over, and then I went
Speaker 1: inside and I still couldn't. I couldn't bring the emotion.
Speaker 1: So she screwed me over twice. Uh, you didn't get
Speaker 1: the job, I'm guessing No, I did not know. I
Speaker 1: came really close. They said, we're not getting any closer
Speaker 1: than this, and then I heard there going with it,
Speaker 1: older guy. Do you consider your big break? Johnny Carson
Speaker 1: probably the highlight of my more souther than Saturday Night
Speaker 1: Live or Weeds, because it's what I aspired to do.
Speaker 1: I used to go watch that show. When I first
Speaker 1: moved to l A, I would they gave out free tickets.
Speaker 1: I can around three in the afternoon and I would
Speaker 1: go around five, you know, right before the show started,
Speaker 1: and I knew if I went up and down the line,
Speaker 1: and I sympathetically asked people, do you have an extraal ticket?
Speaker 1: And I would always get one. And it was like
Speaker 1: a Vegas show. I'd go in there and I see
Speaker 1: Johnny would come out, and then Paul whoever the guest
Speaker 1: was comics, Paul McCartney and the band, and I remember
Speaker 1: everybody in the band and the instrument they played. So
Speaker 1: when I finally did that show, I knew exactly what
Speaker 1: was going on. I knew that the band was right
Speaker 1: there to left. I knew that guy that played the
Speaker 1: troumbone and the curtains open up and I walked out
Speaker 1: to my On the way out to my spot, you know,
Speaker 1: Johnny Carson gives you a wave and Ed McMahon, and
Speaker 1: I had totally forgotten my act. I couldn't remember it.
Speaker 1: And I got to the spot and by the time
Speaker 1: the audience stopped clapping, it finally came to me. I
Speaker 1: was so relieved and it was probably. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: such a natural high to do that show. I was
Speaker 1: outside of my body. I was saying to myself as
Speaker 1: I'm routinely doing my suset, I'm doing the tonight show.
Speaker 1: I'm doing the tonight show. Finally, that's amazing. Was this
Speaker 1: with the map? No? No, this is the thing called
Speaker 1: the Choices? And it was like, you know, things you
Speaker 1: kind of do as a kid. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to make decisions in life, that isn't it.
Speaker 1: And uh, I go, you know, like, would you rather,
Speaker 1: you know, have a super salad? And they go, Sue, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean too. That was easy, all right. Let me
Speaker 1: think of a better choice. Okay, would you write about
Speaker 1: headache or a stomach ache? They go headache? I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. I don't want to throw up. These are easy.
Speaker 1: Let me think of a better one. Would you rather
Speaker 1: be buried into your neck up to dirt and then
Speaker 1: have your head painted like a soccer ball and have
Speaker 1: some Brazilian kids started hanging around? Or would you rather
Speaker 1: get your fingers slammed in a car door and have
Speaker 1: the guy drive away through a car wash? Soccer ball?
Speaker 1: Yeah me too. They might use hot wax in the car.
Speaker 1: So I was doing that and Johnny Carson loved it.
Speaker 1: That's what got me on that show. And that's why
Speaker 1: he said the second time I was on and this
Speaker 1: this guy has an absurd sense of humor. Okay, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I watched this morning the uh the Map, which is genius.
Speaker 1: I mean it's still today, it's genius. Um. If people
Speaker 1: have not seen it, I don't know, google it. Kevin Neilanson,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. You went on to do Dave Show a lot. Now.
Speaker 1: Did you know him David Letterman? Sorry, I don't know
Speaker 1: why I call him Dave like we're great friends. Did
Speaker 1: you know him from the stand up scene prior to that?
Speaker 1: I did know him when I first moved to California.
Speaker 1: I lived in San Diego for like three or four months,
Speaker 1: and I would go to the comedy store in Lahorea
Speaker 1: and there was two comics that I really liked, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know which one was which one of them
Speaker 1: had a gap between his teeth and the other one
Speaker 1: had a big chin. Whatever their name was on the marquee,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I didn't know who I was going to
Speaker 1: see and was Ledderman at Leno? Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: I did let him in before I did the Tonight show. Okay,
Speaker 1: you probably no better than me, because I forget. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the names of any of my characters and
Speaker 1: the stuff I've done. You know, I watched reruns of
Speaker 1: SNL and I'm in a sketch and I have no
Speaker 1: idea what that sketch is about. I'm watching it. I'm
Speaker 1: figuring what where are we going with this? You know,
Speaker 1: who's your favorite stand up you ever saw yourself? Well,
Speaker 1: I think it would have to have been Steve Martin
Speaker 1: at the Universal l Ampitheater with the Blues Brothers opening
Speaker 1: up for him, probably in nineteen eighty one or something.
Speaker 1: It was just the energy and that stadium and everybody
Speaker 1: with their noses and their glasses, you know, the fake
Speaker 1: noses that he wore, and the arrows through the head.
Speaker 1: I thought, this is incredible. And I've seen other comics
Speaker 1: too that we're really impressive, like eddiez Are you know,
Speaker 1: he would come out it's like a rock show. It's
Speaker 1: like a rock and roll concert with a smoke and everything.
Speaker 1: And Robin Williams, Oh my god, probably the most incredible
Speaker 1: impressive comic. I used to be. You know, hang out
Speaker 1: at the Improv all the time. Melrose in Hollywood. I
Speaker 1: was a bartender there for a couple of years, and
Speaker 1: this is as soon as I moved out here, and
Speaker 1: I was there almost every night. You know, I started
Speaker 1: getting on and doing open mic nights and and the
Speaker 1: amount of people that would come into that bar area
Speaker 1: and then perform, I mean everyone from you know. I
Speaker 1: got a when I was bartending at a phone call.
Speaker 1: It was Steve Martin who was wondering if Bud was around.
Speaker 1: He wanted to come down and do a set. I said,
Speaker 1: you come down to do a set right now. And
Speaker 1: Albert Brooks would come in, and Andy Kaufman was always there,
Speaker 1: and I'd see Robin coming after Mork and Mindy with
Speaker 1: the same outfit on with the suspenders, and it was
Speaker 1: pretty magical just being in that room. And I would
Speaker 1: watch I go up to the office upstairs and look
Speaker 1: through the people because it was so packed. And Richard Lewis,
Speaker 1: you know, he was such He was a lot of
Speaker 1: expatriots from New York, and Richard Lewis really connected with him.
Speaker 1: Just everybody would kill it in that room and it's
Speaker 1: such the energy. And then out in the bar area.
Speaker 1: In the eighties, it became like this most popular place
Speaker 1: to go to dance and to hang out with people.
Speaker 1: And I mean I've seen everybody coming there, from Timothy
Speaker 1: Leary to Bob Fosse, you know, every actor, and it
Speaker 1: was such a famous place to be and people would
Speaker 1: and they had a jukebox there, and it got to
Speaker 1: a point where it became like a dance club. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was pretty magical. You're in l A. And I
Speaker 1: understand Dana Carvey who was a roommate of yours right
Speaker 1: in l A. Well, I lived in a rental house
Speaker 1: in the Hollywood Hills that a friend of mine turned
Speaker 1: me onto. He was he had found it and then
Speaker 1: he was trying to get some guys to rent it out.
Speaker 1: So I rented a bedroom there, and then a friend
Speaker 1: of mine, a writer, rented another bedroom. And then Dana
Speaker 1: was coming down from San Francisco a lot and we
Speaker 1: told him that there is a studio apartment over the
Speaker 1: garage if he wants to rent that one, he's in town.
Speaker 1: So he did that. So yeah, we all kind of
Speaker 1: lived together for a while, Okay, and he gets cast
Speaker 1: on SNL. This is circa eight six. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: gets cast. I was so excited for him because he
Speaker 1: does impressions and characters and accents and and so he
Speaker 1: goes off to New York and I'm really proud of him,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited. I never knew anybody that was on
Speaker 1: that show. Two weeks later, I got a call from
Speaker 1: him from Laura Michael's house. He goes, Kevin'm in the
Speaker 1: back bedroom Laura Michael's house out in the Long Island.
Speaker 1: I guess who's in the kitchen, Bill Murray. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: no way. He goes, yeah, anyway, Lauren is looking for
Speaker 1: one more cast member. I told him about you, and
Speaker 1: I think he's going to want to see your audition tapes.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Bill Murray's in the kitchen. I wasn't
Speaker 1: even hearing that other stuff. You know, I wouldn't even believe.
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to acknowledge it because I knew
Speaker 1: i'd never get on that show because I don't think
Speaker 1: characters are accents. I'm just to stand up, a really
Speaker 1: really good stand up. And so I sent my tape
Speaker 1: in and then two weeks later, I get another call
Speaker 1: from data Kevin back at the Laura Michael's house. In
Speaker 1: the back that guess was in the kitchen. Steve Marten,
Speaker 1: no way, because yeah, hey, good news, Lauren like your tapes.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna fly you in for an audition,
Speaker 1: I said, Steve Martin's in the kitchen, you know. And
Speaker 1: I take the flights to New York. It's a free
Speaker 1: trip to New York at least, and I got a
Speaker 1: thirty rock and I go up to a studio eight
Speaker 1: h which is really taped the show. And as soon
Speaker 1: as I walked in there, I got really tired because
Speaker 1: I used to fall asleep watching that show and it
Speaker 1: was association thing. Come on, is that true? That's not true? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that is true. And then I do my little audition
Speaker 1: and I fly back to l A. And two weeks later,
Speaker 1: I find myself sitting in a high rise across some
Speaker 1: Laura Michael's in Beverly Hills. He's offering a job on SNL.
Speaker 1: I said, thank you very much. Mr Michael's. Let me
Speaker 1: think about it over the weekend. See the way, that's
Speaker 1: the way I roll. That's why massage the deal. But
Speaker 1: he saw all right through me. He goes, you think
Speaker 1: about it over the weekend. We'll see New York on Monday,
Speaker 1: So yeah, he was right. Nextly, you know, I'm out
Speaker 1: Laura Michael's house. I got a call from Dana Kevin
Speaker 1: got of Laura Michael's house. I'm in the back fed room.
Speaker 1: This is in the kitchen, I said, that's me, tough guy.
Speaker 1: I'm in the kitchen. Now. Who is your favorite person
Speaker 1: to work with on SNL? I mean work with everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody was great, but of course you mean as far
Speaker 1: as the host no, I mean, I'll give me the cast,
Speaker 1: the cat um. You know, I didn't really like any
Speaker 1: of them, but same with me. I liked you know,
Speaker 1: I liked a lot of Adam Sandler, Dana Carve. You
Speaker 1: hung out with a lot. I mean, I liked everybody,
Speaker 1: but I seem to hang out more with Dana and
Speaker 1: you know Sandler, and you know a lot of times
Speaker 1: you didn't really hang out too much because you're working
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, you're always in the studio
Speaker 1: or home, you know, writing or thinking about the sketches.
Speaker 1: But you know, as far as the hosts were concerned,
Speaker 1: I got to work with a lot of my idols
Speaker 1: and the bands that came through their work. He's dinosaur bands,
Speaker 1: and I grew up listening to like, you know, Paul
Speaker 1: McCartney and Mick Jagger, Paul Simon, James Taylor, Arrow Smith,
Speaker 1: Eric Clapton, and some of them would stay after the
Speaker 1: show to do a little concert for the audience, which
Speaker 1: was cool. That's really cool. I remember one time Eddie
Speaker 1: Vetter was playing on the show and he comes up
Speaker 1: to me. I knew him a little bit. He told
Speaker 1: me he used to come and see me because he
Speaker 1: lived in San Diego. He used that he was served
Speaker 1: a lot and he would come and see me at
Speaker 1: the improv down there whenever I was performing, because he
Speaker 1: was a fan. This is before Pearl Jam even. I
Speaker 1: thought that's really cool. I wish I, you know, was
Speaker 1: introduced to him. But then I find out later his
Speaker 1: girlfriend was a server there, so that's probably why he
Speaker 1: was really going to see his girlfriend. Is his girlfriend
Speaker 1: to get free drinks? Probably? Yeah? Exactly what do you
Speaker 1: think this key to your longevity on the show. Obviously
Speaker 1: one of the longest tenured cast members ever. And as
Speaker 1: you said before, you were an improv guy. You were
Speaker 1: you were you know, didn't do characters, you were a
Speaker 1: stand up guy. What what do you think the key
Speaker 1: to your success being on the show so long. Well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't looking for an overnight success. I was just
Speaker 1: happy to be on that show because I was like
Speaker 1: surprised I ever be on that show. So I was
Speaker 1: content on enjoying it as long as I could. And
Speaker 1: other people they would get really um impatient if they
Speaker 1: weren't a star in one year, and they throw things
Speaker 1: around and you know they felt better. But I was
Speaker 1: just sitting back and enjoying like the different bands that
Speaker 1: came through in the hosts, and learning how to write
Speaker 1: sketches and you know, learning how to do characters, and
Speaker 1: it was such a just a really cool time for me.
Speaker 1: You know, those nine years that was the longest at
Speaker 1: the time, I think me and Tim Meadows, but you know,
Speaker 1: since then, I think Keenan was on there for like
Speaker 1: fourteen years or something, and also Darryl Hammond was on
Speaker 1: there for I think forty six years. He's still on
Speaker 1: right kind of you're still employing he was there longer
Speaker 1: than Lauren Michaels. Yeah, well, I don't know about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that was a super cool experience for me.
Speaker 1: Once the office started going, I remember there's you know,
Speaker 1: you want to come to SNL and I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you kidding. I've been a fan of that show forever. Well,
Speaker 1: you you go to Lauren Michael's office you watched from
Speaker 1: and I was like, what are you talking about? They
Speaker 1: said that the balcony over on the second the second floor,
Speaker 1: and you go in Lawrence's office and look over and
Speaker 1: watch and experience that. It's such a thrill. It really is.
Speaker 1: Now now he kind of positions himself under the bleachers
Speaker 1: in front of a monitor and will always have these
Speaker 1: like past hosts hanging around, like Paul Rudd or Tom Hanks,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of his hangout area. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a great experience. I just loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 1: And you know the hardest part about that show. You
Speaker 1: know what the hardest part was. It was getting my
Speaker 1: friends in, making sure they had tickets, you know, if
Speaker 1: they didn't, and then I had to going downstairs and
Speaker 1: you know, and I hear I was about to go on,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, do you guys get in?
Speaker 1: You got all right, y'all set? Okay, you didn't get
Speaker 1: the tickets? Okay, I gotta make cool, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: make some calls I'm sure. But one of the things
Speaker 1: I remember the most is before my first sketch ever
Speaker 1: on that show you psych yourself out, you say, nobody's
Speaker 1: watching it anymore because you know, the year before it's
Speaker 1: very low ratings and they almost pulled the plug on it.
Speaker 1: So that's how I, you know, I kind of got
Speaker 1: over there. I was still nervous. But we are five
Speaker 1: seconds away from coming back from the commercial, and I
Speaker 1: had written a sketch Mr. Subliminal, which was kind of
Speaker 1: a complicated sketch to do because it was like two
Speaker 1: conversations going on at once, and we're literally five seconds
Speaker 1: away from action, and Laura Michaels comes up to me.
Speaker 1: He puts his hand on my shoulder. He said, are
Speaker 1: you sure this is what you want? You know, to
Speaker 1: be funny? Like, is this how you want? You're gonna?
Speaker 1: You want to be famous? You know? How did Weeds
Speaker 1: come about? Did you audition for Weeds? I did Weeds
Speaker 1: came about? You know? They sent me the script and
Speaker 1: I said Weeds on the cover and I thought, oh man,
Speaker 1: not another like Stone or thing. This stuff has been
Speaker 1: done to death. And I wasn't that, you know, anxious
Speaker 1: to read the script. But then I read it and
Speaker 1: it was so good. The characters were great and the
Speaker 1: story was great. And then I heard I had to
Speaker 1: go audition for it. I'm like, I'm never gonna get this,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just too good. So I go into
Speaker 1: audition for it. And there's a lot of good actors
Speaker 1: in the you know, waiting to go in and read,
Speaker 1: you know, like, um, you know de Niro, Laurence Olivier,
Speaker 1: Carl Street, you know, a lot of good actors. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I beat them all out because I'm a pro. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a professional. You are anyway, I read. I read
Speaker 1: for it too Jenji Cohen, who is the creator of
Speaker 1: the show, and she, you know, couldn't have been more pleased.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like the perfect part for me.
Speaker 1: You know, Doug Wilson, that's the one name I remember
Speaker 1: from a character. But you know, after SNL, I had
Speaker 1: done a couple of failed sitcoms, and I was starting
Speaker 1: to wonder. I thought, will I ever do anything as
Speaker 1: notable or maybe as notable as SNL? And then this
Speaker 1: show Weeds came along, and a lot of people ask me,
Speaker 1: do they smoke pot on that show? Is it really
Speaker 1: Poteston knows they you know, there wouldn't be a show.
Speaker 1: It's a honey rose herb that they smoke in most
Speaker 1: movies and television shows. It's it's very kind of light,
Speaker 1: you know, but I got a little lightheaded because I'm
Speaker 1: not a smoker. And also we get it from the
Speaker 1: honey rose herb cartel in Columbia, so you know, it's
Speaker 1: got a little kick to it, you see what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um weed is a totally different kind of show. Obviously
Speaker 1: your focus is stand up. You've done SNL live television
Speaker 1: for so many years. Was it difficult for you to
Speaker 1: work on such a different type of show for such
Speaker 1: a long period of time. I think it was the
Speaker 1: first single camera show I did. You know, it was
Speaker 1: the total opposite of SNL because SNL is so immediate.
Speaker 1: It's live and there's no waiting around the trailer, you know,
Speaker 1: for the lighting or whatever, and it's no like you know,
Speaker 1: shooting out in Santa Clarita at two in the morning.
Speaker 1: So SNL was kind of a media like that, and
Speaker 1: so this this was like a process. It's really a
Speaker 1: challenge to do a single camera show because like shooting
Speaker 1: movie every week. But I learned that my trailer became
Speaker 1: my office and I would have a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: in there, and I have my musical instruments. I'd have
Speaker 1: drawing pads, you know, I like to paint, So that
Speaker 1: was that was good. I had a lot of free time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people that I talked to are so shocked by how
Speaker 1: much time it takes to get that one hour, one
Speaker 1: minutes or whatever of television. But yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a very different kind of muscle that you're you're working
Speaker 1: when you work on that single camera type show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is. And you know, one of the other
Speaker 1: things is on SNL, I'm playing like different characters every week.
Speaker 1: This was the same character Doug Wilson on Leeds for
Speaker 1: nine years, so that was interesting, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: developing formulating this character. What was your process for for
Speaker 1: helping to develop Doug. Well, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: Genji saw me at the audition and she thought this
Speaker 1: is the perfect role for you. You know, I wasn't
Speaker 1: like Doug Wilson, but I could play that type of
Speaker 1: guy really easy. And I never wrote anything, but I
Speaker 1: embellished a lot of scenes, you know, like when I'm
Speaker 1: in the city council, and you know Elizabeth Perkins character,
Speaker 1: I can't remember her name, but she'd be up talking
Speaker 1: and we had real kind of, you know, a relationship
Speaker 1: that was not great at all times. And she's talking
Speaker 1: and I decided that I would clip my toe nails
Speaker 1: as she was talking, and then I watched him go
Speaker 1: flying across the room and that really agitated her. So
Speaker 1: things like that, you know, probably bring a headboard in,
Speaker 1: you know, for a bed. We're setting up a bed
Speaker 1: and I have the headboard in my hand, and instead
Speaker 1: of just leaning against the wall, I take it and
Speaker 1: I start knocking it against the wall, you know, as
Speaker 1: if there's some actually going on in the bed. So,
Speaker 1: you know, little things like that and doable show and
Speaker 1: and really political in a bizarre way. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we've comes out marijuana is not legal in any state
Speaker 1: at the time, and I feel like that show helped
Speaker 1: sort of change the dialogue in a way, or you know,
Speaker 1: changed the perception or sort of in terms of entertainment,
Speaker 1: really examined a different sector of people who were using
Speaker 1: and smoking marijuana. Right, Yeah, it wasn't different sector of
Speaker 1: people because normally you see just a lot of stoner guys,
Speaker 1: you know, like Sean Patt's character, Matthew McConaughey, you know,
Speaker 1: just all stoners. But this was like normal regular people,
Speaker 1: you know, in a regular world with kids. It was
Speaker 1: interesting like that, you know, it was it was kind
Speaker 1: of a new kind of a breakthrough. And the other
Speaker 1: thing about that show was it was one step ahead
Speaker 1: of everything else. Like the town of aggresstick burnt down,
Speaker 1: and I think two weeks after our show aired there
Speaker 1: was a big fire in Valencia. We did a season
Speaker 1: about a ton that was being dug from Mexico into
Speaker 1: the US, and then a month later they discovered a
Speaker 1: tunnel that was being done into the US. Why are
Speaker 1: you still on the road doing stand up? What is
Speaker 1: it that stand up? It's always been my first love.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I love the the art of crafting
Speaker 1: a joke and deliver. And it's again it's immediate, it's
Speaker 1: immediate reaction from the audience. For me, it's something I'll
Speaker 1: probably do and I'll probably you know, my life will
Speaker 1: probably end on the road somewhere. Do you now it's
Speaker 1: got to be easier for you now when you start
Speaker 1: so many people know you you're headlining. Do you ever
Speaker 1: have shows that just don't work, not really, No, I
Speaker 1: mean some work better than others, but nobody ever walks
Speaker 1: out and there's no complaints, you know, like I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, there's some comics like Norm McDonald used to
Speaker 1: have a lot of walkouts, and I kind of never
Speaker 1: ventured into those areas. Mine is pretty safe. It's pretty clean, right,
Speaker 1: And I have a good cross section for an on
Speaker 1: SNL fans or Weeds fans or Adam Sandler films, and
Speaker 1: the the club owners always say you have it. You
Speaker 1: bring in such a nice audience. You have a a
Speaker 1: red wine sophisticated audience. And this is how they know
Speaker 1: how to order, how to order, you know, their inventory,
Speaker 1: like we have to order a lot of extra red
Speaker 1: wine when you come in. Yeah. I respect and admire
Speaker 1: you so much that you're still out there on the road,
Speaker 1: that you love it so much that you face that
Speaker 1: I don't know that demon is that? Is that the
Speaker 1: wrong way to say? You face that that beast every night.
Speaker 1: I admired that so much. It's not every night, well
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, but you know, I
Speaker 1: never like stopped doing comedy for more than two weeks
Speaker 1: in a row. That was like a long time. So
Speaker 1: when the pandemic hit, it was such a good thing
Speaker 1: for me, like everybody else, you know, I just put
Speaker 1: away my act. I didn't even think about it. And
Speaker 1: then when things started picking up again, like a parking
Speaker 1: lots or outdoor venues, I had to kind of like
Speaker 1: revisit my act. I couldn't remember a lot of it.
Speaker 1: And then I started like just creating new material, which
Speaker 1: was great. So it's like a house cleaning. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I do love it. I love you know, And I've
Speaker 1: moved on to other things too, like I love to
Speaker 1: paint now, you know. I do these digital art drawings
Speaker 1: if people go to Kevin Neal and artwork on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I do caricatures of different celebrities and I have a
Speaker 1: book coming out in November. Oh you do. I love them, Kevin.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about this, you know, you
Speaker 1: say caricatures, and I know that's how you describe it,
Speaker 1: and I guess it is in a way. But I
Speaker 1: find with so many of the subjects that you find
Speaker 1: a real humanity and reality. You capture the essence of
Speaker 1: most people so well your subjects. I'm so impressed with it.
Speaker 1: Is this something you've always done. Is this a new
Speaker 1: skill for you, Well, thank you for that, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of a new skill. But I've I've always you know,
Speaker 1: drawn since grammar school. You know, we had to draw
Speaker 1: maps without tracing them, and I mean I think that
Speaker 1: was my first experiences during characters was a characture of
Speaker 1: a map, like you know, Italy wouldn't be a boot
Speaker 1: at the end, it would be a platform shoot, you know.
Speaker 1: So I've always doodled on the side of my margins
Speaker 1: of my papers, or even during SNL. If I wasn't
Speaker 1: in a sketch, I'd be doodling, you know, somebody sitting
Speaker 1: across from me, Phil Hartman, or you know, daying a carve, anybody.
Speaker 1: Right before the pandemic, I was sitting at L a X.
Speaker 1: I was looking at some some of these character artists
Speaker 1: on Instagram and they're really good. They're much better than
Speaker 1: me now, but they're really good. And I saw one guy.
Speaker 1: He had an ad for lessons and he was really
Speaker 1: I liked his work. So he was from England. So
Speaker 1: I got a hold of him and I took ten
Speaker 1: lessons from him, you know, be a skype, and he
Speaker 1: kind of taught me how to you know, work with
Speaker 1: dual artwork and tablets and doing caricatures, and then I
Speaker 1: just started coloring them in and you know, using the
Speaker 1: stylist as a paintbrush and the different paints. I just
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot, and it
Speaker 1: finally all came together where I was. Everything I learned
Speaker 1: just growing up, I just kind of incorporated. And I
Speaker 1: also used to love watching the caricature artists, like you know,
Speaker 1: at these street fairs or at the carnivals. I would
Speaker 1: stand behind them forever and watch them, you know, how
Speaker 1: they would make the eyes bager, you know, the ears
Speaker 1: and and then showing it to the person. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: watched a bunch of your I don't know what if
Speaker 1: you call it like time laps for those of you
Speaker 1: who haven't seen Kevin's work, you include at times you
Speaker 1: attempting to find your final picture, some different incarnations and
Speaker 1: you see, I don't know, the one that's sticking out
Speaker 1: of my mind that that I saw very recently was
Speaker 1: John Travolta, and it's like I see you sort of
Speaker 1: experimenting with the nose or with the lips, or with
Speaker 1: how the cigarette dangles out of his mouth. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm watching you create the exact look that you're
Speaker 1: going for to capture the essence of that person. I
Speaker 1: find that really interesting. Oh thanks, Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen overnight. For me. It takes me a
Speaker 1: long time to draw each one of those because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not like these guys who do it for a
Speaker 1: job whose illustrators. I know a lot of these guys now,
Speaker 1: they don't do it a lot like me. They'll draw
Speaker 1: their face and then their evolution is just coloring it
Speaker 1: in and painting it because they've already got the shape
Speaker 1: of the face. I've got to take a long time.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a week or two. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm getting quicker at it now, and and I do
Speaker 1: like showing the process. And by the way, the name
Speaker 1: of my book is called I Exaggerate My Brushes with Fame,
Speaker 1: and it will be out in November. And on each
Speaker 1: opposite side of the picture, Brian, there's a little antidote
Speaker 1: how I knew that person or experience we had together,
Speaker 1: or if I don't know that person, like Freddie Mercury,
Speaker 1: I'll just muse about my first concert or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited. That's it's really awesome and you just mentioned it.
Speaker 1: So I also enjoyed going down the rabbit Hole and
Speaker 1: reading the descriptions of um so many of the subjects
Speaker 1: that you've painted. Steve Martin and tripol to you tell.
Speaker 1: I won't spoil that one, but really interesting story about
Speaker 1: him on S and L. Yeah. Also, you have a
Speaker 1: YouTube show right, Hiking with Kevin I do. That's been
Speaker 1: a little web series. Yeah, how have you found doing that?
Speaker 1: Are you enjoying that? I love it? I love it
Speaker 1: so much because I used well I still do. But
Speaker 1: I love to hike in the canyons around l A.
Speaker 1: And it's something I really enjoy. I go out there
Speaker 1: for meditation, just while I'm walking and meditate thinking. I
Speaker 1: write a lot when I'm walking. In fact, I did
Speaker 1: a hike with Linn Manuel Miranda in New York and
Speaker 1: we went to a park where he said he grew
Speaker 1: up as a kid, he'd walk up there and play
Speaker 1: and and that's exactly where he wrote a lot of
Speaker 1: Hamilton's walking on those trails up there, and so I,
Speaker 1: you know, I agreed, it's a great place to write.
Speaker 1: I was hiking with Matthew Modeen once and we were
Speaker 1: both so out of breath. I thought this would be
Speaker 1: funny if I was interviewing and we were both out
Speaker 1: of breath, you know, we couldn't understand what we were saying.
Speaker 1: So I videotaped that. I posted it on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: then I just got get other friends and started hiking
Speaker 1: with them. Then my equipment got better, and then I
Speaker 1: got a YouTube channel, and then I got to go
Speaker 1: pro in the end of selfie stick. And then I
Speaker 1: got a drone and I'm editing it myself, you know,
Speaker 1: a premiere pro. So it's become quite the and I
Speaker 1: just started season four. I've only hiked twice, once with
Speaker 1: Eugene Levy and once with Julian Lennon. Awesome, it just
Speaker 1: started season four. I mean it's not airing yet, but
Speaker 1: I started taping it. Okay, it's not so much hiking
Speaker 1: with me, but there's a course that I play a
Speaker 1: lot in l A where you walk golfing. And I
Speaker 1: have said too many people who are asked me about
Speaker 1: golf or what I love about golf, it is that
Speaker 1: time for me where my mind goes away, where I'm
Speaker 1: not self obsessing or thinking about small details. I'm simply
Speaker 1: thinking about one objective, which just to get the ball
Speaker 1: in the hole, whether playing alone or with others where
Speaker 1: we're not communicating that much. That time away from me,
Speaker 1: I've had some of my best ideas and able to
Speaker 1: just sort of let the manality of everyday life sort
Speaker 1: of go and focus on that one objective actually as
Speaker 1: brings me greater enlightenment, and that's that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons that I love golf and playing golf. It sounds
Speaker 1: like hiking for you is brings you there. You're not
Speaker 1: a stand up, so we're what would you do with
Speaker 1: these ideas? Well, talk to somebody like you or or yeah,
Speaker 1: or right, or ideas for projects or other conversations that
Speaker 1: I want to have. Yeah, So for you, it's jokes,
Speaker 1: is that's that's what comes to you. No, it's also characters,
Speaker 1: are short little films or anything actually anything that comes
Speaker 1: to my mind. You know, Like I wrote a joke
Speaker 1: the other day. I was hiking on a trail, and
Speaker 1: the joke is this basically because I talked about not
Speaker 1: being ripped off for looking for deals, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was in college, I bought a
Speaker 1: used mattress and it was like fifty bucks, and apparently
Speaker 1: it was somebody's deathbed. And I mean, you wouldn't know
Speaker 1: except for the bullet holes and the smell. It was
Speaker 1: a great deal. I gotta tell you, you know, but
Speaker 1: I have to write everything down otherwise I forget it.
Speaker 1: And it's not the worse than coming up with something
Speaker 1: that you really like and then you can't remember what
Speaker 1: it was. Well, I I've said it to you personally
Speaker 1: and a little bit today. I respect you and your
Speaker 1: career and your dedication so much. Clearly one of the
Speaker 1: funniest people that I've ever seen and had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to be around, and I wish you all the best
Speaker 1: luck with your future projects. But the painting, the caricatures,
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with. And I not only will I
Speaker 1: buy it the day up, I know how important it is.
Speaker 1: I'm going to preorder ith nice Nice. I love that.
Speaker 1: There you go, it's cool. I like it. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you and I enjoy you too. And I'm i'm I'm
Speaker 1: I was excited to be on your show here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks so much, Kevin. All right, right, let's go golfing.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Kevin, I have to tell you, I am
Speaker 1: going to be very disappointed if a Brian bomb Gartner
Speaker 1: caricature does not arrive at my door in three to
Speaker 1: five business days. I'm just kidding kind of. Your presence
Speaker 1: on the podcast was well the best gift of all.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me, and as always
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Speaker 1: alongside our executive producer Langley. Our producers are Diego Tapia,
Speaker 1: Liz Hayes, Emily Carr, and Kristen Vermilia. Our talent producer
Speaker 1: is Ryan Papa Zachary. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak
Speaker 1: performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode
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