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Speaker 1: it's already legendary. He's already saved lives. He like you said,

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Speaker 1: he took LS for a lot of us. Just he

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Speaker 1: deserves to be back in the NFL facts because, like

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Speaker 1: like he what he said on our show, my message,

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Speaker 1: your message matcha matches up with my message from back in.

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Speaker 1: You have end racism in the end zone. You have

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Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, and the end zone on the back

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Speaker 1: of your helmet. How the guy that started all of

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Speaker 1: this creating has environed me for all of us. Why

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Speaker 1: is he still paying the price? If he's saying you listen,

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Speaker 1: I want to play, I still can't play, which is

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Speaker 1: why Brandon, without cutting you off, I was beefy with Dazz.

436
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, he's taking some else for you. Come

437
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Speaker 1: on the show. And if we do talk about Colin,

438
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that was duplicited because he wanted to get somebody to

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Speaker 1: give him a gig so that them, they whomever they

441
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Speaker 1: are that are hiring, or like, oh, he's with us,

442
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: because sometimes it'd be that I don't know what I'm

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Speaker 1: just suggesting. The reality is I wasn't down with all

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Speaker 1: of Colin's messages. Are we down with every one of

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Speaker 1: our leader's messages? No, we're not. We are not a

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Speaker 1: monolithic we do not think alike. But he did not

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Speaker 1: know what that meant, and that was disappointing on that platform. However,

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Speaker 1: with that being said, as you, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: hold on, I will say this. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys who agree to this day like that, feel that way,

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Speaker 1: and it's like to me, right right right, I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I'm not saying what he said was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I just said it was uninformed. But I also know

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people agree with him. I still

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Speaker 1: think of it this way. Colin was not trying to

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Speaker 1: be a leader. Someone asked him why he was sitting.

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Speaker 1: He gave his He gave his random message who he thought,

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Speaker 1: and then it became this news, and then he became

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Speaker 1: a leader, and then they pushed him here, and he

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on, and life was coming

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Speaker 1: so fast that I'm asking for people to have nuanced

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Speaker 1: and understanding. Now. When he knew he was a leader,

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Speaker 1: when he knew he was a leader, when he knew

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Speaker 1: he was a leader, when he knew the world was

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Speaker 1: listening to him and people were comparing him to Muhammad Ali,

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Speaker 1: then what do you do with it? That's when I

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Speaker 1: was like, Colin, you could be better because now you

468
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Speaker 1: know you didn't fall into it. Now you know you

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Speaker 1: couldn't lead all those men because you didn't know where

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Speaker 1: he was going. You didn't know if he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: a job or not. And with that being said, you

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Speaker 1: get him to come on your your amazing podcast, and

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Speaker 1: he talks and just necessarily say anything new. But he

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Speaker 1: says I'm willing to be a backup. Life has changed.

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to be in the game. I'm still doing

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Speaker 1: this workout. And and by the way, I talked to

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Speaker 1: Colin briefly. I talked to him at his premier. I

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Speaker 1: still honor what he did because he's he lost what

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Speaker 1: he loved. And I couldn't imagine somebody taking my voice away.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine somebody taking my platform away. That would

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Speaker 1: break my heart. It would send me into depression, it

482
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Speaker 1: would make me reevaluate about what life is. And He's

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Speaker 1: handled this with grace and elegance. And I'm asking I'm

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Speaker 1: asking you, as an athlete who has this platform, to

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Speaker 1: provide nuance. M That's all I'm saying, right, No, but

486
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Speaker 1: here's a challenge, though, and I gotta keep it. I

487
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Speaker 1: gotta keep challenge. So right, there's two things that we're

488
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Speaker 1: dealing with right now. We're dealing with the movement and

489
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Speaker 1: we're dealing with football. So Colin still, like this past

490
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Speaker 1: week and he was in Vegas, you know, with you know,

491
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Speaker 1: the Know Your Rights tour and everything he's doing there,

492
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Speaker 1: like every single day, every single week, he's still pushing,

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Speaker 1: He's still fighting, right, he doesn't talk about it, nobody's

494
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Speaker 1: highlighting it, but he's still talking about it. So you

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Speaker 1: also got to understand that that, you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things in development in five it's been five

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Speaker 1: years since he's sat down with anybody. This dude has

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Speaker 1: things in development that he's been working on for a

499
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Speaker 1: very long time. And guess what, that's my brother and

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Speaker 1: I want to honor that and respect that because you know,

501
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Speaker 1: in a year from now, he can come out with

502
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Speaker 1: this amazing film, this amazing story that really covers all

503
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Speaker 1: of that. So with the traditional media, doesn't do they

504
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: don't respect that. They try to like, oh my goodness,

505
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Speaker 1: like this is a great win for us. You know,

506
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Speaker 1: we got calling. He's the first time he's ever sat

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Speaker 1: down with anyone for five years. But what about that

508
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Speaker 1: partnership and what about what he has going on outside

509
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Speaker 1: of that? Right? For me? For me, the reason why

510
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Speaker 1: I approached it the way I did is because you

511
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Speaker 1: got calling, and now you have this guy that's saying

512
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Speaker 1: I want to play football, and I want to support

513
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: that because I believe that he should be playing football.

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Speaker 1: To me, it was more so about that because I

515
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Speaker 1: think we have a lot of time to continue this

516
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Speaker 1: story and tell the story of everything else he was doing.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I want him back in the NFL because

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Speaker 1: I think the legend and the story of calling Kaepernick

519
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Speaker 1: in his second wave of the civil rights movement, it

520
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Speaker 1: gets even bigger. Like just imagine him being back in

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Speaker 1: you know, you know this, Let's keep it like you said,

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Speaker 1: let's keep it a buck right, like you know, like

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Speaker 1: you know call and sitting down with us, you know,

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Speaker 1: for him to feel comfortable. Let's respect Let's respect that.

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Speaker 1: You know. I not only do I respect it, I

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Speaker 1: love it, which is why I do love these athlete

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Speaker 1: lad platforms. And that's the overall consensus. I really respect

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Speaker 1: what you're doing in the Pivot podcast, you know, all

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Speaker 1: the smoke, yeah, like, and I respect all of it

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Speaker 1: because they do you need an area where they feel safe,

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Speaker 1: and they do need and they do need a space

532
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: where they can communicate the way they choose to communicate.

533
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: And that has somebody like, maybe like that don't make sense, right,

534
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Speaker 1: I get well, well, I will say this, but I

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Speaker 1: will say this though, because you gotta you know, this

536
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Speaker 1: is where you come in that and it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, now we're reconnected I would. You know, I

538
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: want you to hit me up, teach me how to

539
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: do my job better, right, because I I trained my

540
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Speaker 1: entire life to be a professional football player. I knew

541
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: I was gonna make it to the NFL when I

542
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: was six years old, seven years of seven years of age.

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Speaker 1: This is what you do this. You knew your voice

544
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: was special to me. It wasn't about my voice, it

545
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: was about my legs and my hands. Right. So, you know,

546
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: I think that you know myself and Matt Barnes of

547
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: the world. You know, the guys is out there doing

548
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: at a high level. You know on YouTube digitally. We

549
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: can lean on you guys more to teach us how

550
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: to do this because we want to be able to

551
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: hold our athletes accountable. But at the same time, you know,

552
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that we're also planning to

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Speaker 1: the narrative. And that's there's the beauty. There's the nuance.

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00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to give the narrative, the traditional mainstream

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Speaker 1: narrative where they get dismissed and they don't get in,

556
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: the stories don't get told right, all right, y'all, So

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Speaker 1: uh don't go anywhere I know you're not because it's

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Speaker 1: good it's good as good as good as good. I'm silly,

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Speaker 1: I'm goofy. It's silly, Brandon Marshall. On the other side

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Speaker 1: of the Every champion and carry Chappion is to be

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Speaker 1: a champion, a champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappion.

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Speaker 1: A champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappion sports and

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Speaker 1: and the tame ake and make him work very Chappion

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Speaker 1: and carrie Chappion is to be a champion, a champion.

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Speaker 1: They carry Chappi, and they Chappi and they carry Chappion

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Speaker 1: and carry Chappi and make everybody. Welcome back to Naked

567
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Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, just getting started. True story. The reason why

568
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: this is probably two parts is because his computer died.

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Speaker 1: He thought he'd only be on for so long, and

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Speaker 1: his computer died and he had to he had to

571
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: fire that thing back up, eat a little bit of sushi,

572
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: and start the podcast all over. You're welcome because it's good,

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00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Brandy Marshall. It is. There is an art to asking

574
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Speaker 1: a question that is so uncomfortable that this person wit

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Speaker 1: men off to put you no more, or this person

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Speaker 1: might crush out and you say, curious, I see it's

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Speaker 1: not so much on I'm not trying to alienate you.

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00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I am trying to hold you accountable, and I am

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Speaker 1: trying to ask you questions and I'm while and in

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Speaker 1: my own opinion, subjectively I could I have evolved. I

581
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Speaker 1: am no longer carring from first take right, so I

582
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: can see you evolved. But what I can't participate in

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Speaker 1: it's a bunch of black men sitting around not holding

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Speaker 1: each other accountable, because I think that's very important in

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Speaker 1: our society. Black women wouldn't do it. I couldn't interview

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Speaker 1: a woman that was black and she was saying some

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Speaker 1: things that did not make sense. Any athlete period, any

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Speaker 1: journalist period. I could not interview you and be like,

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Speaker 1: because you're black, Imi letter Ride now aderstand really going?

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Speaker 1: I can't because sometimes, as we all know, your silence

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00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: is agreement, and that's not what you were doing. You

592
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: guys weren't agreeing. But then the then this this video

593
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: goes viral and leave it to you know, one of

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Speaker 1: my peeps to say something to them, and they go

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Speaker 1: at her and and dad's are going back and forth

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Speaker 1: on social and I'm like, I don't want to be like,

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00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: that's not what I want I don't want to get

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00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: into it on social like I ain't trying to trend.

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00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and you'll handle it. If you ever

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00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: come on my podcast, I'll talk to you about it.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, how important is the voice that

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Speaker 1: you have now with I am athlete, I'm important that podcasts. Yeah,

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00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: it's extremely important. I think you know it's uh, it's

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00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: a lot to it, right. That was something where I

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00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: agree with you. It's like, you know, because it's so

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00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: much bigger than us. You know, it's not just about

607
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: our platform, it's about our people. It's about humanity. Right,

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00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: So that conversation you know yet and if you go

609
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: back and watch that episode, it came out of nowhere,

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00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: like that wasn't the top it. He just said it.

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: He wanted to get some off of his chest. So

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Speaker 1: we weren't even prepared to have the conversations like holy shit. Right.

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Speaker 1: But so I agree with you there. But I think

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Speaker 1: that we know how powerful a platform is. We know

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Speaker 1: that we have to be responsible with it. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I like, I think it's we've had so much

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Speaker 1: success because we are holding each other accountable when it

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Speaker 1: comes to mental health, when it comes to marriage, when

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Speaker 1: it comes to finance. We're having some really good conversations,

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Speaker 1: and um, I think the thing that we all have

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Speaker 1: to do is how do we participate in you know, politics,

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00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: you know things that touches all of us right and

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Speaker 1: you know humanity you know, so a lot of people

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00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: run away from those conversations. We want to leave into them,

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00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: and we got to do them the right way. So

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00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, we know how powerful our voices and I

627
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Speaker 1: think that you know, we're one of the few out

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00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: there that's really getting it right. But we still have

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Speaker 1: a lot to learn. How with that being said, we

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Speaker 1: get to see Colin play, that would be great. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that will ever happen. Will you think will

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Speaker 1: talk to me? He has to You can't have listen,

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Speaker 1: he's been for five years. Where is he gonna play?

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Speaker 1: And so there's there's thirty two teams correct right now

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Speaker 1: there's probably around thirty, but around three quarterbacks per roster.

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Speaker 1: That's nineties six quarterbacks in the National Football League. See

637
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: Brandy is better than half of them. What does that mean?

638
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Speaker 1: So that means that he can play, That means that

639
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Speaker 1: his that his talent is is good enough. Second NFL,

640
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Speaker 1: you can't have in racism and the end zone. You

641
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: can't go on us on the rand, Mr Commission, Mr

642
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Speaker 1: uh Pete Carroll, who I love and respect and study

643
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Speaker 1: his leader ship ways I love playing for him. You can't.

644
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: You can't go to the owners meeting in South Florida

645
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: and say we gotta do better with minorities. Roger connect Codell,

646
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: who I have a great relationship with. I can text

647
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: him right now, but you can't go. You can't say

648
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: we got it wrong. We should be protecting and supporting

649
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: our athletes that peacefully protests and still black ball Colin

650
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: Kaepernick can't happen. It's been happening. Yeah, but enough enough,

651
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: enough enough. Why would they change if they've been able

652
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: to get away, they gotta change And go back to

653
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: your point, we got it wrong in NFL players, But

654
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Speaker 1: right now w y'all did in coming together and saying

655
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Speaker 1: what if it was me? All Brandon? No one's holding

656
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: them accountable because they owned the league. That rich white

657
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: men control the league. They don't have bosses, they are

658
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: their bosses. They answer to no one. Okay, talk to

659
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: me how that works because it's been years. I mean, listen,

660
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: don't you worry right with you, I wanted him to

661
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Speaker 1: have a job. Here's the power where we finally found

662
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Speaker 1: her voice. So you're saying year four years later, four

663
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Speaker 1: years later, are you saying we as an athlete, we

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Speaker 1: as black athletes? Four years later, we saw O b

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Speaker 1: j Sa, Kwon Barkley, all the black stars in the

666
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: NFL said, what if it was me together collectively Brandon,

667
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Speaker 1: I want him to manage. And if you're right and

668
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: I am wrong, that would make me happy. That would

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Speaker 1: nothing would make me more happy to see him on

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Speaker 1: the NFL roster. The reason why I don't think it

671
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: can happen is because if Colin is in the locker room,

672
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: it just it disrupts the entire equation. There's a man

673
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: who pushed back and told you, I don't give up,

674
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Speaker 1: and I'm the boss, and I will kneel, and the

675
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: question will be will you kneel? And yeah, I'm kneeling.

676
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: You think that he would take a he would take

677
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback position if they told me he he couldn't kneel.

678
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: We're not We're past kneeling. Okay, okay, okay, okay, jay Z.

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Speaker 1: But my point is is that if he decides that

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Speaker 1: he that he wants to do some sort of protest,

681
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: and they say, no, I don't think he's going to

682
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 1: be an agreement and that will disrupt the apple cart.

683
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: Now I'll tell you right now, I'm in agreement for

684
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: Collin Kaepernet coming in and just playing football. We don't

685
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: need to kneel no more. We passed that. He knows that.

686
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: He in agreement with that. You interview him, he is

687
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: going into to play football. He like, yeah, is he

688
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: going to continue to stand up and for what he

689
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: believes in and fight for what he believes in? Absolutely? Absolutely,

690
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: But he's going in as a football player. I asked

691
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: him on the show, how are you going to eliminate distractions? Right?

692
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: We're going in to win a championship. That's what it's about.

693
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: He loves football. When you say, how do we eliminate distraction?

694
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: What does that mean? He's coming in to play football.

695
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: We won't get a kneil. The more he already did it.

696
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: He already knew that's going back right now. It's about

697
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: what you said. It's about having that playing in place. Now, okay,

698
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: you you you didn't ask to be the face of it,

699
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: now you are. Now you have the plan in place.

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Speaker 1: That's more powerful than kneeling. What happens when there what

701
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: I need, what I need, what I need from Colin Copernick,

702
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: Go go throw me. That's it. What happens when during

703
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: the NFL year, a black man is murdered and he

704
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: feels the need to say something. If he's asked about it,

705
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: one of these pesky asked journalists say, Hey, this is

706
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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna saying. Let me all right, got it?

707
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: A great, great question. This is what I'm gonna say.

708
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm gonna ask some other legends, NFL

709
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: legends to say, calling you sacrificed enough. Just play football,

710
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: every other black NFL player, dog, Now it's time for

711
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: y'all to take the knee. Wow wow, wow wow powerful

712
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Speaker 1: Brendy Marshall naked, being naked, challenging me up, it's I did.

713
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna text you and be mad at you after

714
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: this podcast. I don't hold. Let's do tea time, all right,

715
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: let's do it all right, tea time. So tea time

716
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Speaker 1: is this is the opportunity to get messy. Okay, here

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Speaker 1: it is this one question I have for you for

718
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Speaker 1: tea time. Okay, just one, just one. I mean you

719
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Speaker 1: can ask that terrifies me because it's just one just

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Speaker 1: one time. So listen. You know, when we first opened

721
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Speaker 1: the show, I thank you for being a pioneer, you know,

722
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: seeing you know us represented, you know, you being an

723
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: apologetic leaning into the fashion, your personality and attitude like

724
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Speaker 1: we've never really seen at that level before. I mean,

725
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Speaker 1: we're talking about a legendary show. So I guess, my, my,

726
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Speaker 1: you know, with all that being said, you know, my

727
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Speaker 1: only question for you is, go ahead, sit your te

728
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Speaker 1: go ahead, sip it. What happened? Why aren't you no

729
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: longer on first take? Oh that's a good question and

730
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Speaker 1: an easy one to answer. Um. I worked with Skip

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Speaker 1: and stephen A. Smith and at the time they were

732
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: the biggest personalities on TV and ESPN brought me in

733
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Speaker 1: to ask questions and not to talk. And when that

734
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Speaker 1: became more evident and more clear, perhaps six seven months

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Speaker 1: in UM, the journalists that I am felt away. I

736
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Speaker 1: was like, why am I being silence while we're talking

737
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Speaker 1: about things like ray Rice and you know, domestic abuse?

738
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Speaker 1: And why am I being silenced when you we want

739
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 1: to talk about Floyd Mayweather or why am I being

740
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Speaker 1: told I can't weigh in on topics. When I have

741
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: something to say, I have an opinion. This is an

742
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: opinionated show. I should be able to say something. I

743
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: I went to the bosses, I went to everybody, and

744
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: they were like, mm, that's not what this show is.

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00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: The show is those two talking, and you're the moderator.

746
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Speaker 1: But what they said to me is that you're without

747
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: saying it, is that as a little brown girl, you're

748
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Speaker 1: not supposed to talk. You should just be happy to

749
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Speaker 1: be here. No one at the time, not including all

750
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Speaker 1: the great brown women who had been on the air.

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00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: Jamal didn't have a Monday through Friday show, Sage, you

752
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Speaker 1: didn't have a money Friday show. I was on the

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Speaker 1: most popular show as a brown girl, and I was

754
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Speaker 1: supposed to be just happy to be there, and I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Quite Frankly, I was the apposite of of happy. I

756
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: was disrespected. I was treated poorly behind the scenes and

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Speaker 1: in front of the camera. And I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: it was stephen A and I'm just saying that his skipped,

759
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: but every all around, and I got tired of betraying myself.

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Speaker 1: No one kicked me off the show. I left on

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Speaker 1: my phone. I left and I took my grace in

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Speaker 1: my grid and I said I'm going to Sports Center.

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Speaker 1: And when I left here and was like, yeah, that's

764
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: why you got kicked off. I didn't get kicked off.

765
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Speaker 1: I got tired of being disrespected. I got tired of

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Speaker 1: being treated like on national television, on the most popular show.

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Speaker 1: And while it wasn't obvious to the it wasn't obvious

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Speaker 1: to the people watching, because my presence was so powerful

769
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Speaker 1: that you may not have felt that, but I felt it.

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Speaker 1: And I knew that there was more that I could

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Speaker 1: offer and there was more that I could say. But

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Speaker 1: to their credit, I learned to work extremely hard, because

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Speaker 1: Kippen's even a work harder than any I've never worked

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Speaker 1: with anybody who is who they may be dedicated to work.

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Speaker 1: We do twelve hour days. We'll be on the road

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Speaker 1: all the time. No can play show up, do two

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Speaker 1: hours prepared, do your work, put your head down, don't complain.

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Speaker 1: Learned study and I wasn't. And to their credit, to

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00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: their credit, you know, I knew about basketball. I knew

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00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: a little bit about football, but I don't know everything

781
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: about everything. And they taught me a lot. Whether they

782
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: intentionally taught me. They taught me a lot and that

783
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: became my beat. Sports is my beat, and I learned,

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00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: And when I went to Sports Center, I felt a way,

785
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: of course I did. Nobody wants to be treated like

786
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Speaker 1: But you've been in a You've been on a team

787
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: where they don't respect you, and you don't get the ball,

788
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: you don't get to start, and you and you put

789
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: your head down and you figure it out and you

790
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: prove yourself. And the more approved myself, the more pushedback

791
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: I got. So I get this opportunity to host host

792
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: Sports Center and come to l A and and live

793
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: where I lived, and I loved it. What are you

794
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: talking about? I'm from here. I'm from l A. But

795
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: the truth is is that sometimes companies and institutions want

796
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: black faces, but they don't want a black voice. And

797
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: because we were talking about Colin Kaepernick, that's when Colin

798
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: Kaepernick went down in twenty sixteen, and everything that happened,

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Speaker 1: and the pushback that we got maybe a year or

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Speaker 1: so later about how we covered Colin, about how we

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Speaker 1: used our black voices to defend Colin or to present

802
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: a different side was extraordinary. Not only was the NFL

803
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: against Colin dare I say. All the media outlets were

804
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: against Colin as well because they needed to. They had

805
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: to serve there their master, for lack of a better word,

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00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: which was the NFL. And I was like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: I can't do this. And as a black woman, I'd

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00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: be damned if I watched them sit and betray a

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00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: black man like that. And we evolve right. I started

810
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: to give my voice, I started to feel myself. I

811
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: was like, fine, I'm out here for my thing. And

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00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: the more and more I stayed there, I knew that

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00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: my voice was not valued. And while I didn't have

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00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: any place to go, I left. That's what I'm sure

815
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: because I believed in me more than they could. I

816
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: get frustrated with us as black people fighting to get

817
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: into these rare spaces, this rare fight air. I was

818
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: the first black girl Monday through Friday, and however, many

819
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Speaker 1: eons on ESPN two than ESPN, and we fight to

820
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: get to these rare spaces, and we're only tolerated, not accepted.

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Speaker 1: And I got tired of being tolerated. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: be somewhere where I was accepted. So I had to

823
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Speaker 1: create my own space. I had to create my own

824
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Speaker 1: landscape and ESPN is the best. Is this is that? Okay? Correct?

825
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: The biggest platform, super famous, everyone knows me, you know

826
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: me because of that. I'm at all the events. But

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Speaker 1: I'd be damned if I lose my dignity just for

828
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Speaker 1: a paycheck in a five day a week get on

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Speaker 1: the biggest play from me. And by the way, I'm

830
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: not the only person in the world feeling that way.

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Speaker 1: There are people right now who will listen to this

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00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: podcast and be like, damn, I'm tired of being tolerated.

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00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: I want to be respected. I just got fed up. Powerful. Wow, Um,

834
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Speaker 1: I guess that I said one question, but I'll ask

835
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: two more, two part questions to Tom everybody Bratian took

836
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: on my podcast. Y'all an that was powerful. Oh my goodness.

837
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Speaker 1: Is there anything that you would do differently? One? And two?

838
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: What can we do as black men that support our sisters? Support?

839
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Looks interesting because when I was there and I was struggling,

840
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: I didn't have it. Legit didn't have it. And people,

841
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: have you ever been in a situation where you know

842
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: that people are not respecting yet and they are looking

843
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: when it's happening, and the reason why it gets had

844
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: is because there are people who watched watch that show

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Speaker 1: down and didn't have my back, And it's people I

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Speaker 1: thought I would heavy if I'm being honest, and they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a back, And that's okay. That's okay because

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00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: everyone has to beat their family and everyone can't be bold.

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Speaker 1: You just it's hard to find your voice because if

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Speaker 1: you defend someone the way in which I defended Jamal Hill,

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Speaker 1: you pretty much put a nail on the coffin. So

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Speaker 1: when Jamal was going to through all her stuff and

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Speaker 1: I decided to defend her, whether it be on social

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Speaker 1: media or in person, that was my nail in the coffin, Like,

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Speaker 1: how dare you defend her? She's a pariah, she went

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Speaker 1: against the president. But I'm on the right side of history.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the right side of history when the book

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Speaker 1: is written, I'm on the right side of history, and

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Speaker 1: that's all that matters. And support looks like if you're

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Speaker 1: smart enough to know that I'm walking away from a

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00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: powerful showing a powerful network, it's not because I'm on

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Speaker 1: some books and I wasn't doing my job. Anyone who

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00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: watched knew that I was always doing my job. And

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Speaker 1: support looks like I got your back. Do I need

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Speaker 1: to send a tweet, Let me send a tweet, let

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Speaker 1: me mention it, don't let you know, don't let somebody

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Speaker 1: speak ill of who I am. Don't let someone dismiss me.

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Speaker 1: And my voice cannot be as powerful as a skip

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Speaker 1: baylest it just isn't. He has more. He has more,

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Speaker 1: he has a bigger platform, me as more people. My

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Speaker 1: voice isn't going to be more powerful than ESP and

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00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: they can tell whatever story they want to. So support

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00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: is coming on my podcast, coming on my TV show,

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00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: having my bag riding for me, knowing that I'm doing

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00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: the job that I'm doing and I'm trying to create

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00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: my own and I'm doing it my way. My story

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00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: isn't over. It is done my damn way. I am

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00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: saying notice things I want to say no to and

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00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: yes to what I want to say no yes to.

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00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: That's what support looks like like. I'm I'm literally creating

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Speaker 1: a path for the next one in life. So all

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00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: the other ones you see that come behind me and

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00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: it's a little easier for them, it's because they on

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Speaker 1: me and I'm okay with that. Thank you so much,

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00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: because you and a few others paid the way from me.

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00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: I was on a five day a week show and

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00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: I didn't like how we covered the athletes, and I

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Speaker 1: walked away. And that's when I am Matthew was creazy.

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Speaker 1: I remember first things first, Right, you're talking about that, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was like, I'm out, I don't want to do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. You didn't want to

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Speaker 1: do it. But but if you didn't do that, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you calling didn't take that knee, if you didn't

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Speaker 1: stand up for your sister, if you didn't do what

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Speaker 1: you did, I wouldn't have done what I did because

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Speaker 1: I would have also embraced and been happy with being tolerated.

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Speaker 1: But you have such a very, very unique circumstance and

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00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: a very unique voice, and you need to be appreciated.

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Speaker 1: All of us blacks do. If they don't appreciate you,

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00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: kick rocks. Very few of us get to be appreciated.

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00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: Find that space in that relationship and that work relationship,

902
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: whatever it is across the board. Choose yourself. And that's

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Speaker 1: the end of the story. And it's hard and scary.

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Speaker 1: So tea time, cheers time, don't be stealing my segment

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Speaker 1: to too late. I just actually I just trademarket. I

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00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: just trademarket. I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna call it

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00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 1: one time, don't call it wine time brand and Marshall, y'all,

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00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: he you know, listen. He challenged me a bit. He

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Speaker 1: told me not to tiptoe around the questions, asked what

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Speaker 1: I want to stop being scary. I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 1: It made me feel away, like I wanted to fight him.

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00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: It made me feel away, and I was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not tiptoeing around you. What I'm trying not to do

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Speaker 1: is get cut out. What I'm trying to do is

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Speaker 1: have an interview that requires both of us to be adults,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, I don't have any home training. Who

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Speaker 1: knows what I'm saying. Right, If you say something slick,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something like bad because I'm good to

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Speaker 1: grown that way now. So anyway, Brandon Marshall gave us

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Speaker 1: so much more. Like I said, this is a two

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Speaker 1: parter because we could not leave anything out. You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: You can thank me later next week. And we talked

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Speaker 1: to him again. And I know that the draft is

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Speaker 1: here this week and everything is focused on the draft,

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Speaker 1: but I felt like it was a proposed not to

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Speaker 1: just necessarily focused on the draft, but talk about someone

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Speaker 1: who has experienced that, and what this league, NFL will

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Speaker 1: look like, and what will happen to black athletes who

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Speaker 1: want to stand up for justice. While the NFL says

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Speaker 1: they're with them, are they truly Brandon answers those questions

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Speaker 1: and a lot more again in Part two of Brandy

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Speaker 1: Marshall on Naked Don't forget to listen. Part two coming

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Speaker 1: up next Monday. Thank you all for listening today and

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Speaker 1: Joey Naked I my