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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily on sp

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. Alright,

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Speaker 1: let's do alive on a Monday. Is that better? Are

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Speaker 1: you better? Now? Is yours better every time? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know either, But it's great to see. It's

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Speaker 1: good to see you, Great to see you. She'll be

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Speaker 1: joining us in about moments moment. That's why we're up

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Speaker 1: here a little bit early for the kids. Got the

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Speaker 1: RBS boys off a little early, give them a little break,

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Speaker 1: and then we are we're jumping on early, coming off

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Speaker 1: of a preseason game number two at the stadium for

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Speaker 1: the weekend. UM. This is obviously a huge week last

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Speaker 1: week with with the joint practices to say the least,

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Speaker 1: and let alone all the rest of it. Um. But

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Speaker 1: then this game that was you know one where this

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Speaker 1: was obviously primarily backups playing in this game, and and

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Speaker 1: that's the way that we kind of thought that it

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Speaker 1: would go. UM. But now the the real heavy lifting

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Speaker 1: of getting this roster to manageable numbers you get ready

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Speaker 1: to start the season. Yeah, and that's that's the goal,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have cut downs by tomorrow and then

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Speaker 1: another set of cutdowns the following week. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think for the Browns goal one, right, I think

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Speaker 1: there were two important things to see in this game

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Speaker 1: for me who was going to there were actually more

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Speaker 1: than two, but the two most important that actually have

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Speaker 1: real meaning. We'll take the receive room out of that

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Speaker 1: for a second because we're gonna have to get to

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Speaker 1: that and we'll talk about that. But is Josh Dobbs

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Speaker 1: capable of being your backup quarterback? Yeah? I feel like yes,

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Speaker 1: is is who's going to be the backup center. I

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Speaker 1: thought Michael Dunn played great. Yeldefrohote also played great at

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Speaker 1: on in the game. But I thought Michael Dunn showed

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Speaker 1: like I said, well we'll go more in depth after

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Speaker 1: coach sucks, but you got, I think what you wanted

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Speaker 1: out of that game. You got some fun cade York

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Speaker 1: field goal attempts where he just booted one from fifty

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Speaker 1: but hit the upright well up the upright with great velocity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I felt like, honestly, like from seventies, some probably would

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Speaker 1: it looked like it was fifteen yards up the goal

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Speaker 1: Is it fifteen yards? Is it too much? I think

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Speaker 1: coach to FANSK. So we we don't have coach as

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Speaker 1: it were, but we came on early. We did. We

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Speaker 1: came on early to hear from the head coach, the

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Speaker 1: clear from the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. But

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Speaker 1: right now others will um not us. So he's what

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Speaker 1: for for coach to? All right, real quick, before we

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Speaker 1: now in the NFL in preseason football is brutal. I

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Speaker 1: it's brutal. These are brutal watches. Like we're gonna put

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Speaker 1: We're worried about depth, the minutia of it, and for

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Speaker 1: a necessary unfortunately, a necessary evil, unless they turn joint

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Speaker 1: and it was. It's not just what you saw with

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Speaker 1: I think real football fans would love the practices. I

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Speaker 1: discussing this, watching it live, and you see Jacoby Brissette

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Speaker 1: well that's what you want to see, is that. But

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Speaker 1: And now it's kind of just like the back end

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Speaker 1: same catch it, and he did. I like that, but

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Speaker 1: we but it's still happening. And that's and it's all

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Speaker 1: three of his targets were speedouts, were ten yard speed outs.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's I think it is. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about it. There's nothing else, nothing

431
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Speaker 1: else concerns me. I'm not worried about Jacoby Brissette playing

432
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Speaker 1: eleven games. I think I know what that will look like.

433
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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about you know, the people that are talking, well,

434
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Speaker 1: the interior, the defensive line now will be fine. It's safe.

435
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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about anything else. Not worried about replacing Treder,

436
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Speaker 1: even Harris. I mean, you know it's a step back, sure,

437
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Speaker 1: but I'm okay. I think you're gonna be fine. Concinent

438
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Speaker 1: will come back at at right tackle at some point.

439
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Speaker 1: Right concern In terms of real concern, I I do

440
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Speaker 1: think the receiver room is a real concern. If you're

441
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Speaker 1: trying to win the Super Bowl, you're trying to win

442
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Speaker 1: it all. You're trying to put yourself in a position

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Speaker 1: for when Deshaun Watson comes back. You're sitting at six

444
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Speaker 1: and five, seven and four, fingers crossed. I think on

445
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Speaker 1: upgrade needs it needs to happen there. Yeah, I think

446
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Speaker 1: that's something that obviously you can monitor thinking teams around

447
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: the league. But at the same time you I agree

448
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Speaker 1: with you. I think there needs to be some type

449
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Speaker 1: of an upgrade there. I think offensively, that's really the

450
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Speaker 1: only question. I think your third tight end, you know

451
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Speaker 1: it's your third tight end, but it's not going to

452
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Speaker 1: be as good as Harrison Bryant last year. I'll you

453
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Speaker 1: what I think, Nikia Griffin Stewart's got a little juice

454
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Speaker 1: to him. Back to back weeks with three catches. His blocking,

455
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Speaker 1: I think if they were, you know, going to get

456
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Speaker 1: on anything, it's his blocking. But and he's competing with

457
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Speaker 1: Millard Forrestol for that spot. It's not like Millard Forestol

458
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Speaker 1: is out there is a road greater. He's more of

459
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Speaker 1: a pass catcher two guys N school quarterback before Trevor

460
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Speaker 1: Lawrence took his job. That's a position that isn't solidified,

461
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Speaker 1: but it's your third tight end, so it's not the

462
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Speaker 1: end of the world that it's not necessarily solidified. But

463
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Speaker 1: I kind of like what I've seen from Nikia Griffin Stewart.

464
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: It feels like Marcus Santos Silva is very much a

465
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Speaker 1: project that is not gonna yield any fruit anytime soon.

466
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Speaker 1: But it's the wide receiver running backs overloaded. I mean, John,

467
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Speaker 1: we have the best one too. We have the best

468
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Speaker 1: one two three, We have the best one to three

469
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Speaker 1: four and John Kelly probably is the best fifth running

470
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Speaker 1: back in the NFL. Well, and in a pinch, Felton

471
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: could do it too right, So I mean it's ridic

472
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Speaker 1: harrasment of riches. We don't talk about Felton in the

473
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Speaker 1: receiver room because it's not a traditional you know, ex

474
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Speaker 1: Z receiver is not necessarily what he is, So it's

475
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Speaker 1: it's an embarrassment of riches a receiver. I do wonder

476
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Speaker 1: if is there a tradeable asset there the net you

477
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Speaker 1: a receiver coming the other way. There's several, but I

478
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Speaker 1: don't know. It's just not a position where of great

479
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: need in the league or value or value was the

480
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: better way to put it, which is ironic because we

481
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: put value on so many things. We do everything that way.

482
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Speaker 1: But it's just like we've almost stumbled into this absurdly

483
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Speaker 1: great running back room. You know, kind of have you

484
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Speaker 1: got Deerrenest Johnson from a fishing boat draft, the guy

485
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Speaker 1: in the fifth round, Kelly was a former sixth round

486
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Speaker 1: pick of the Rams that's coming to our system. And

487
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Speaker 1: you know, Stump Mitchell's a great, great running back coach.

488
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Speaker 1: We've got a great offensive scheme for the run game.

489
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Speaker 1: We incorporate so many things, and we've got a darn

490
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Speaker 1: good offensive line. We got two good offensive line units.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that was If you want to make

492
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Speaker 1: a takeaway, does any team in the NFL have a

493
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Speaker 1: better second offensive line unit than the Eagles or the Browns.

494
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Speaker 1: Those may have been the two best second team offensive

495
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Speaker 1: lines in the NFL. We didn't even have Hubbard playing,

496
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: who we we could have had out there, which would

497
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: solidified that you need more. But the interior with Blake

498
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: Hants and Drew Forbes and yelled a fro hold yell

499
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: a fro holed. I thought, played great and then done

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Speaker 1: it center, and then you got you had Hudson and

501
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: you have Hubbard on the other side. That's elite. And

502
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: then you flip it to the Eagles. Dillard was a

503
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Speaker 1: former first round pick of There's in nineteen Cam Jurgen's

504
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: they just picked in the second round this year. That

505
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Speaker 1: guy's stud the center. Their entire second team offensive line

506
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: was all over three in our pounds. I mean, there

507
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: are big dudes. And now they definitely ran the ball

508
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: on us, no question, but it felt worse than it

509
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Speaker 1: actually was. The only average three point three yards to

510
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Speaker 1: carry against us in the game. It just they ran

511
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Speaker 1: at forty three times. I mean their first the first

512
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: six possessions of the game we're all double digit plays

513
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Speaker 1: or more. You know, when their last one ended a

514
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Speaker 1: fourth and goal from the two and her Miller should

515
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Speaker 1: have had that pick six, which would have been what

516
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Speaker 1: a play that would have been. But you talked about

517
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: that for on their side with Minshew who played very

518
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Speaker 1: very well, and then on our side yet Dobbs. Four

519
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: offensive possessions for Dobbs, two touchdowns, two field goals. You

520
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: go back to Jake. That's now seven scoring possessions with

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs at quarterback for the Cleveland rounds seven. He's

522
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: played really well. Four touchdowns, three field goals. He's played great.

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Speaker 1: He's played great for It's crazy Minho's not competing to

524
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Speaker 1: be a starter Somewhere. There must just be something about

525
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Speaker 1: his I just think it's the look and the character

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Speaker 1: of it all. He's very good, Yes he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah he should be starting. He's better than the two

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Speaker 1: characters in Seattle. Yeah, he's I think he's better than

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Speaker 1: Mariota in Atlanta. Better than Mariota for sure, definitely. I'm

530
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Speaker 1: not sure he's not better than Dan Dimes are better

531
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: than Wentz Wentz for sure. I'd take him over Wentz Dimes.

532
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: It's hard to know, he's been putting a lot of

533
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: bad spots. I'm just surprised people nobody's given him a shot.

534
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Speaker 1: But he's a perfect backup for the Eagles, and he's

535
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Speaker 1: a guy that look so much for them is going

536
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Speaker 1: to be based on you know, what does what are

537
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Speaker 1: we able to accomplish here with Jalen Hurts? What can

538
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: can He went from the pocket and I thought that

539
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Speaker 1: was the thing about Dobbs yesterday that stood out to

540
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: me was there were a couple of times where it

541
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Speaker 1: was third down for him in the pocket and he

542
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: was able to deliver a pass from the pocket to

543
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Speaker 1: move the chains, and I thought that that's what you

544
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Speaker 1: wanted to see. Is he an electric athlete? I think

545
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: that was very clear. He scrambles for you know, the

546
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Speaker 1: thirty six yards uh, and is able to get out

547
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: of that sack and set up that first touchdown where

548
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: he drops the snap and picks it right back up

549
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: and gets gets in the touchdown. Tony Romo somewhere saying, man,

550
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: I was so close to that on that on that

551
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: playoff game when he dropped the snap on a field goal. Um,

552
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: but you go and you look at Yeah, it was

553
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: third and eight at the forty two from the pocket

554
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Speaker 1: twenty two yards to David Bell third and six from

555
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Speaker 1: the thirty two. That was in complete de Bell, but

556
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Speaker 1: that should have been caught. That was a good ball

557
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: that he put right on him. Um, And so that

558
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: was I think one of the things that they wanted

559
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: to see is to be able to get some opportunities

560
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Speaker 1: where you had him in a third down situation where

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Speaker 1: he had to win from the pocket on a third

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Speaker 1: and medium, third and long. He does it fourth and

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Speaker 1: six for example, from the forty five he hits to

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Speaker 1: Marcus Bradley for eight yards to get that first down.

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Speaker 1: I love seeing that. I thought that he showed a

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Speaker 1: ton and as I said in the pre game after

567
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: you got to talk to him, what a likable young guy.

568
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled for him. I thought he played very

569
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Speaker 1: very well, highly intelligent. This is an offense that suits

570
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: his skill set very very well, and I thought he

571
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: delivered a great game once again. Yeah, I think if

572
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: you feel pretty good with with him and and Jacoby

573
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Speaker 1: at the top, and and that's the way you'll go

574
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Speaker 1: until d Sean comes back. What what shoes are those

575
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: scarlets wearing behind you there? Look over your left shoulder.

576
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: What are those shoes I've seen him supporting those around.

577
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: Is that a Nike? It feels like it has to

578
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Speaker 1: be a Nike. Yes, swoosh on the front of it. Yeah,

579
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Speaker 1: I've never seen that shoe before. Give me the let's

580
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Speaker 1: go over the kind of the timetable for this week.

581
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: So you've got players off today. Tuesday, you get the

582
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Speaker 1: second set of roster cuts, so you go from eighty

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Speaker 1: five to eighty by four o'clock tomorrow, and then you

584
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Speaker 1: crack this Wednesday, Thursday, Friday this week and then Saturday,

585
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Speaker 1: the final preseason game against Chicago that is at seven

586
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: and seven o'clock rather at that and then from there

587
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: your cut down day used to be used to play

588
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Speaker 1: that Thursday cutdowns on Saturday. You'll have till when to

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Speaker 1: get to fifty three. Three is the following Tuesday, the

590
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Speaker 1: following Tuesday, so you have that. You gotta go think

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Speaker 1: about that. Eight by tomorrow at four and the off

592
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Speaker 1: the next Tuesday. So a week from tomorrow, seven guys

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Speaker 1: off this roster, So huge practices at the end of

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Speaker 1: this week. UM, we'll spend a lot of time on

595
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: this as the week goes along, just trying to give

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Speaker 1: you an idea of kind of where we think this

597
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: roster breakdown will come from, what position groupings, um. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that that running back one is crazy.

599
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: That's a crazy room because you know, John Kelly can play.

600
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: It's two straight preseasons where he can play. Can there's

601
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Speaker 1: no way, but it's he can play. He's a pro,

602
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's just part of that deal.

603
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Ford's I think even better than they thought he would be.

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00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: And Dearness is so proven. And then the first two

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Speaker 1: of the first two. So those are things to pay

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Speaker 1: attention to over the course of this week when we

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Speaker 1: as we get into the practicing that that will take place.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned Wednesday, Thursday, Friday would be the big

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Speaker 1: practices and Tuesday as well on Saturday with the Bears,

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Speaker 1: you close out the preseason, all right. Coming up next

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go to a regular season schedule and get

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Speaker 1: pare Be on Winfree or the injured guys from yesterday? Uh? Yeah,

639
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: A J. Green was cleared, Dalen Baldwin is in the

640
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Speaker 1: concussion protocol, and then Perion is working through a couple

641
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: of things. Well he'll be okay, thank you, Hey, Kevin Um.

642
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Regarding Joshua Dobbs, like when you're evaluating him, is a

643
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: potential number two who could have to step in week one? Like,

644
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Speaker 1: how do you balance what you see every day in

645
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Speaker 1: practice and then the preseason versus the fact that he

646
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: really hasn't played much in the regular season. Yeah. For me, Scotta,

647
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: let's a body of work. So it goes back to

648
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: the reps he gets in practice, how he does in

649
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: the meeting room, what he does on the game field.

650
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Speaker 1: Obviously in terms of career and career attempts and those

651
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: type of things. Really just focused on on what he's

652
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: done with us. Um. You know, and he's been in

653
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: the league for a little bit, are you surprised that

654
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten more of a chance to play? Well?

655
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times that circumstance you know,

656
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: if the starter is playing quite a bit. Hey, Kevin,

657
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: A caid question for you. I mean, I know, when

658
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: we've talked to him a handful of times, he's brought

659
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Speaker 1: up the fact that sometimes he'll make kicks and he's

660
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: not happy with how he hit the ball, and then

661
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: the yard he missed. Yesterday, he mentioned, you know that

662
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: he felt he hit it pretty good. I guess just

663
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: for a rookie to kind of have that attention to

664
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Speaker 1: detail and nuanced with the way he's approaching his craft,

665
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: just how important that is, especially at the position he plays. Yeah, actually,

666
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Speaker 1: I think it's true that he really does work on

667
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: his craft. H. And exactly what you what he mentioned

668
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: to you, he mentioned to me and us in terms

669
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Speaker 1: of how he hits each ball. I think you take

670
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: each ball into accountant. So he's very conscientious about working

671
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: at it. Uh. And it's going to be a process

672
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: in this process out here on the practice fields, it's

673
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: a process in these games settings. Just trying to continue

674
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Speaker 1: to ascend as a young player. Hey, Kevin murh this

675
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: backup center job, we I kind of obsessed with that.

676
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: So Michael Don, how did he look and how do

677
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: you see that? On? Uh? Yeah, I think it's It

678
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: definitely is unfolding through practice and games. I think all

679
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: of these jobs are are fluid, and guys are battling

680
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: for roster positions and we don't have to set the

681
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: depth chart for a while here, so he'll continue to

682
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: to compete at that role. I thought he played well yesterday, Jeff.

683
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: I thought he plays hard, as he always does. He

684
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: he finishes plays with the right amount of tenacity and

685
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: and playing with clean technique and those type of things,

686
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: so he always gives us an hon of stays one. Hey, Kevin,

687
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Alex right. He's getting

688
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities with Miles and Jadeveon not playing

689
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: in these games. So what have you seen from him

690
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: early on? Yeah, I think I think he's flashed Dan.

691
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: I think he's done a nice job in practice, going

692
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Speaker 1: back to the last couple of days versus the Eagles,

693
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: versus some really good tackles, he had some good rushes,

694
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Speaker 1: and then in the game he's done a nice job.

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Speaker 1: He's he's made plays. He's a young man. A lot

696
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: of this is new to him, know just the NFL game,

697
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: the speed of the NFL game. Some of the things

698
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Speaker 1: we're asking to do schematically. But he's done a really

699
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: nice job. And then just you know, with Miles and Jadavion,

700
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Speaker 1: what do you think it's meant for him? I mean,

701
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: he was telling me yesterday he just learned so much

702
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: from those guys. He calls him almost player coaches, what

703
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: do you think he's picked up from those guys? Yeah,

704
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: I think any young player is doing himself with this

705
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: service if he doesn't watch the vets in front of

706
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: him and learn in terms of how they study, how

707
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: they prepare, how they practice, the different techniques they use.

708
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: So he's fortunate to have a couple veterans there in

709
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: Miles and j D that have played the game at

710
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: a really high level. Yeah, coach, I want to ask

711
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: you about a couple of guys. First up, Mike Harley's.

712
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: It seems that injury to um Uh that he had

713
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: a punt returner, it seems to like open the door

714
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. So what have you seen from Harley,

715
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: not just his receiver, but in the return game here. Yeah,

716
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: Mike's a young man that is again giving us some

717
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: really good reps. Both receiver wanted to see what he

718
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: could do at returner and Uh, you know that will

719
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: be a continual, continual evaluation with Mike. But a very

720
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: very competitive player as he saw in that catch the

721
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: other yesterday, really fighting for that ball and it was

722
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: not gonna be denied and then had a couple other

723
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: nice plays in that game. So doing a nice job.

724
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: And Stump Mitchell, you know, we asked you about Nick

725
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Chubb and and Cream Hunt and the patients thing that

726
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Stump talked about it. Seeing with John Kelly yesterday we

727
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: got the quintessential patients style of running from him is

728
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Speaker 1: especially on that touchdown. Just what have you seen from

729
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: him and how would you describe him as a young runner. Yeah,

730
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: I think with patients there's different run schemes and different

731
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: run types. Uh, and so patients is gonna look a

732
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: little bit different on a wide zone than it is

733
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Speaker 1: on a gap scheme. Like the touchdown run that uh

734
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: that John had down there. That's you know, that's one

735
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: of the everybody runs that play. You know, we call

736
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: it duo, some people call it crunch. That's the Levi

737
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: on Bell play over the years where talk about patients.

738
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Speaker 1: You know, really abiding time behind line of scrimmage, waiting

739
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: for your your read at the second level to commit

740
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: and then making your cuts. So I think for John,

741
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: he's had that play in practice, he's had that playing games,

742
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's a continued um evolution for

743
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: him to make sure he's putting the ball in the

744
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: right spot. Are you, Kevin, just wondering how will you

745
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: balance UH with Jacobe Brissette in the in the last

746
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: preseason game injury risk versus sort of the dress rehearsal

747
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: and get him ready to play the season. Yeah. I

748
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: think that's really the balance, Mary Kay for every team

749
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: when you're playing your starters versus not playing your starters

750
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: in these games. It's something that we talked about every

751
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: year and really talk about every week and just trying

752
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: to make the right decisions for your team. I don't

753
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: know that anybody knows exactly what you need UH weekend

754
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: and week out, since you've got to kind of go

755
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: with what's in front of you. So do you think

756
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: that you'll will you play him? You know in the

757
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: olden days it was like three quarters for a dress rehearsal.

758
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll do something like that? And did

759
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: you see enough of Joshua that you don't necessarily need

760
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: to see him or one quarter might be okay this

761
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 1: game for him. We're working through the plan for this game,

762
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: Mary Case, I'm not ready to say exactly yet. Uh

763
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: so you're right, Uh. In those olden days, this was

764
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: the game where people played, you know, through the first half,

765
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: maybe end of the third quarter. But we're not ready

766
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: yet to say what our plan will be. Kevin, I

767
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: wanted to go with a couple of other rookie d lineman.

768
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: With Isaiah Thomas, it looked like his hand was in

769
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: the cast. Is he going to be able to play

770
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: with like padding on that he should be able to play? Yes,

771
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: what do you expect him back this week? I do okay?

772
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: And uh with Perry and how did you think he

773
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: played before he went out late? And you talked about

774
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: his technique early in camp. Have you seen him getting

775
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: better at them? Yeah, definitely getting better because he's working

776
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: at it. It like most rookies, not consistent enough yet

777
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: and that only comes with time. It just comes with

778
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: with working at it before practice, during practice, and after practice.

779
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: But certainly seeing flashes of Perry on using his technique.

780
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: He just has to get more consistent, like Kevin h

781
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: Three quick question, three different players, one Alex Taylor played

782
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: every snap. Was he just last man up? Or was

783
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: there in a lot of ways? Yes, Tony, there's uh,

784
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Alex did a nice job, any you know,

785
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: a credit to him for playing that whole game. But

786
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: there are when you're resting guys, there's limitations to how

787
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: many guys you have of and m j Emerson left

788
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: the game. What was his injury? It was finger But

789
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: he's okay, okay, last one d Anthony bell Um. He

790
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: looks like he's made an impression on everyone. Is that correct?

791
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: Good impression? Yeah? I think you know, you go back

792
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville game. Obviously getting the ball out, did

793
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: a nice job. You know, I'd go back to what

794
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: I said about Perry at and he's a he's a rookie.

795
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: These young players who haven't had a ton of reps

796
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: to date, they're going to make mistakes and it's the

797
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: old They gotta make it once and correct it. But

798
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: he's certainly got its working hard at it. Thanks for

799
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: Rob Hey, Kevin, coach like you coach, Sirianni said, those

800
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: guys got a lot out of those those few days.

801
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: What have you have you booked the Eagles for? He's

802
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: the next year. Already we talked about it. You know,

803
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: you got to see how the schedule shakes out and

804
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: all those type of things. But wouldn't bother me going

805
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: back to Philly for a few days next year. And

806
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: since we have some breaking news, I just wanted to

807
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: ask you Baker Mayfield was named the starting quarterback for

808
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: the opener, which kind of spices that up a little bit.

809
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: Just wanted to see if you had some reaction. I

810
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: didn't see that, Tom, But I think we'll wait to

811
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: talk about Carolina until we get there. I'm still in

812
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: the week three the preseason mode. All right, there's coach

813
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 1: from earlier within the hour, my friend, Yeah, real quick.

814
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: A little bit of news fro around the league that

815
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: may or may not have had an interest from the

816
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: rounds standpoint. The Vikings have just announced they've traded a

817
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: conditional seventh round pick in the NFL Draft to the

818
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Raiders in exchange for quarterback Nick Mullins. The trade pending

819
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: Mullins passing a physical Stideum was the backup there. Mullins

820
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: was a guy that was likely to become available, and

821
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: you have to wonder would the Browns have wanted him

822
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: in the mix back here again along with Josh Dobbs.

823
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: I thought it was very good in that Monday night

824
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: game and certainly was good knows the offense. But you'll,

825
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: I think, be able to take that out of that's

826
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: off the that's off the table. Now he will end

827
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: up in Minnesota, and quite frankly, we have already done

828
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: a few deals with Minnesota and we might be able

829
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: to do so. Um So well, uh, well, let's do

830
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: a quick stock up step up here coming out of

831
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Speaker 1: preseason game two. This is back of roster stuff. Who's

832
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: who stock is up here heading into heading into the

833
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: final week of the preseason. Josh Dobbs, without any question,

834
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: his stock is well up. And then I'll take to

835
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: two offensive lignement Mike Dunne and yell To Frohle. I

836
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: talked with Bill Kelli and earlier today he was so

837
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: pleased with both of their performances, so I think their

838
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: stock is certainly up. And then, um, those probably are

839
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: the big three coming out of this game. We didn't

840
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: get to see the punters, so that competition we really

841
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: don't know how that goes. Cordy work has at an

842
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: opportunity to pin them back inside the twenty a little

843
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: bit too much on it ends up going into the

844
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: end zone. Um, so that was one. In terms of

845
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: the jobs that actually matter, I still think we are

846
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: in search of a return guy. I think that's pretty apparent.

847
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: If Mike Harley can do that, it certainly helps his

848
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: chance of making the team. You only had one kick return,

849
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: I think nineteen yards. Didn't get a chance to return

850
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: to punt. There weren't really many punts involved in this game.

851
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: So those, yeah, I'd say the stock up. The main

852
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: ones would be those guys, and then you know, I

853
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: think defensively they're coming out of that game. I don't

854
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: know there are a lot of stocks that necessarily went up.

855
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: You know, rich Account had a ton of tackles, but

856
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of of agreedious one. Same with

857
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Tony Fields. Um, I would say Partnell Motley I thought

858
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: battled hard. The catches that were made against him were

859
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: very much contested catches. The ones that weren't you got

860
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: a nice PPU to get the Browns off the field

861
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: on a third down. Um, you know her Miller put

862
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: himself in a good position to make a pick six

863
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: and didn't complete the whole thing. But was in a

864
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: nice spot there, Alex right, Isaac Rochelle, those are two

865
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: guys I would say as well. Isaac Rochelle, I think

866
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: has been a pretty pleasant surprise. And he's a veteran.

867
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: He's been in the league for you know, his entire

868
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: career five years will be a sixth season, nine and

869
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: a half career. Sacks, I don't know. He he looks

870
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: he looks good. He's stout against the Rice two hunder

871
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: eighty pounds, but he's shown the ability to get to

872
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback as well. On the Baker, on Baker being

873
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: named the starter in Carolina, that is UM. A game

874
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: that will be only seen in these two markets would

875
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: be my bet. They'll be seen in these two markets,

876
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: in the Charlotte market and in this market. And I

877
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: would say, I think you'd make an argument for a

878
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: game that will only be shown in two markets, the

879
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: give a damn of those two markets in that game

880
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: could not possibly be higher for teams who are not

881
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: rival in really any other ways. It's just gonna be

882
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: in these two markets, completely dialed in UM and even

883
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: more interested in normal and in the in the rest

884
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: of the league. This is it's a whole hump right.

885
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: It's a home opener, but for every number, it's gonna

886
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: be for us and them. Crazy Adity is doing the

887
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: sidelines for that game, and she said that that it's Spirodids,

888
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: it's the number six CBS team, the number six CBS

889
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: teams to see that's what I mean. But I assure

890
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: you the number the rating number in this town. And

891
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they go up against Bengals that

892
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: day in Columbus or not, but the two two of

893
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: the bigger markets in Columbus will be percentage of eyeballs

894
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: on enormous bureaudidas. And j Field is your broadcast crew

895
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: for week one with the week two, so I don't

896
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: know if she's she's not sidelines the whole season correct,

897
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: but I think she is okay, So potentially that's that's

898
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: how that would go. Um, Yeah, that one's going to be.

899
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's hard to wrap your head

900
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: around the way that that played out. There is so

901
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: there is gonna be so much personal animus in that

902
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: game on both sides that it is going to be.

903
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen hotly. Contest is going to have a

904
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: lot juice, It will it's crazy that that's just crazy

905
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: that that's where he ended up and the fact that

906
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: you open with him. Uh, it's just a remarkable thing.

907
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: So not I'll tell you what isn't remarkable with him

908
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: winning the job. That was very, very expected that he

909
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: would beat out Sam Donald and win that job. So

910
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: what makes the question? Here's what I here's what I

911
00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: don't understand about the whole thing. I know that he

912
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: he was going to beat down Sam Corset. There was

913
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind. Why did they also trade

914
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: all those assets to get mc correl who's now out

915
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: for the year, but then also trade for Baker and

916
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: I really didn't have to give up much for Baker.

917
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, was a makes pretty They did give up

918
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: quite a bit to get Sam Donald, and they did

919
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: for eighteen million dollars to Sam Donald. But it feels

920
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: like a move that was made because the coach's staff

921
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: is desperate to be mediocre and thus hopefully saved their jobs.

922
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: They will not have the benefit of any point that

923
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: you're putting a rookie in and saying, oh, well, we're

924
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: playing our future. That's off the table now, and it

925
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: doesn't from a long term planning situation. If you don't

926
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: believe Baker's a franchise quarterback, You've made investments now in Corral,

927
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: who may or may not be. But I mean from

928
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: a long term planning standpoint, it's to fail because your

929
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: roster is one that if you didn't have Baker and

930
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: you just played Donald all year, the rookie Matt Correll,

931
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: you maybe could play yourself into a Bryce Young c J.

932
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: Straw out next year in the draft because the roster

933
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: is not that great, So you could play yourself into

934
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: something like that. I think you hit it. This is

935
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: a coaching staff that's feeling a ton of pressure to

936
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: win and to show ownership that they know what they're doing.

937
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: And the reality is is that Baker will win games.

938
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna win some games, Like is it? Is it

939
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna be enough for them to pass the Saints in

940
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: that division? Uh? You know, are they are they better

941
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: than They're better than the Falcons if they stay healthy.

942
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: I don't think they're not better than the Saints, but

943
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: and they're certainly not the Bucks. But you know, can

944
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: they do if they go eight, nine, nine and eight

945
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: with Baker? Does that? Does that do it? Does that

946
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: save a job, So that I think that's how they

947
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: got there. Is that point Macarrel kind of fell in

948
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: their laps. He just kept didn't he drop in dropping?

949
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: And to get him they give up assets the movie,

950
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: but it was it was like third round. Yeah, yeah,

951
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: so they came up in the third to get in

952
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: because I mean, he was the guy who thought a

953
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: lot of people that would go in the first dropped

954
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: all the way to the third. And then the other kid,

955
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: the kid from Carolina, Sam how Is at Washington. He

956
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: felt like the sixth, didn't he and he's good in preseason.

957
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's tricky, but no, that's I think

958
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: you nailed it. That's dots. That's why that end of

959
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: the third round they moved up to pick number ninety four.

960
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: They gave up a third and a fourth this year,

961
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: a fourth and this year's draft. Well that also goes

962
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: to pleasing ownership to right. I mean, Corral played at

963
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: all miss let us get our hands on him like

964
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of angles. I think that coaching staff

965
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: in front office is playing to keep ownership happy because

966
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Tepper does not have patience for a lot from what

967
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: you read about stuff down there. Um, all right, do

968
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: we have the half next? Is that coming up next?

969
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,399
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975
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Speaker 1: When you screamed pure Joy yesterday, I mean that is

976
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,920
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977
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,640
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978
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: Jeff fun yesterday a ball man. It was one of

979
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: the more entertaining preseason games I've ever seen or been

980
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: a part of. I mean, offensively, it was back and forth,

981
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: long drives. We saw a lot of guys make some

982
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: big plays for themselves, namely Josh Dobbs. I thought David

983
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Bell did a nice job outside of that one drop

984
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: he had, Alex right, he had a big game. And

985
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: I even got a chance to throw in a little

986
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: bit of copious still being taken and thrown out there

987
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: during the broadcast. So it was it was definitely a

988
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: pure joy broadcast. It was a good and after the

989
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: fifty five yard touchdown the Eagles from that point, from

990
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: the start of the game to that point, it was

991
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: really good. After that, not as great. We didn't get

992
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: to see what we wanted obviously, which was to hopefully

993
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: get Rosen to lead it down and get Kaid yorka

994
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: game winning field goal opportunity. We didn't get to see that.

995
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: But you go back to Josh Dobbs, you said he

996
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: stood out off what I liked, and I'm curious see

997
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: your thoughts. We know he's a tremendous athlete. He showed that,

998
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: you know in the escape, the thirty six yard run

999
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: running it in. But I thought there were a couple

1000
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: of third downs where he had to make a play

1001
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: from the pocket, even a fourth down, fourth and sixth,

1002
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: and he was able to do it, And I thought

1003
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: that was the most encouraging part of everything that we

1004
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: saw from Josh Dobbs. Yeah, I think we saw him

1005
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: throw the football accurately a little bit more down the

1006
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: field than we saw in training camp even really and

1007
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: then certainly against the Jackonville Jaguars. So um, it was

1008
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: a big step for Josh Dobbs. I think his teammates

1009
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: believe in him and obviously hope that he's not going

1010
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: to be playing in the regular season because that means

1011
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: something has happened to Jacoby berceaid, But you gotta feel

1012
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: pretty good about him as your backup for those first

1013
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: eleven games of the season after what you saw yesterday

1014
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: and what you've seen throughout training camp. And I think

1015
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: one of the things that really impresses me that I

1016
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: always look at when I'm kind of evaluating younger quarterbacks

1017
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: is decision making, right because typically that's kind of what

1018
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: the position comes down to. Everybody that makes it in

1019
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: the NFL can throw the football and spend it a

1020
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: little bit, but it's making those quick decisions. It's not

1021
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: being paralyzed by the moment when all of a sudden

1022
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: the pockets breaking down and you got to make a decision.

1023
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: Do I throw it away, do I try to take

1024
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: a chance down the field? Do I escape the pocket?

1025
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: Which way do I escape the pocket? And Dobbs just

1026
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: continually makes the right decision. And we had Paul deep

1027
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: at us in the booth with us Uh in the

1028
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: third quarter, and that was the first word that he

1029
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: came up with and you know, you're sitting there in

1030
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: the booth and you're talking about Josh Dobbs, who's who

1031
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: played a great first half, and you keep saying the

1032
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: same things about him. A great decision, great decision, great decision,

1033
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: And it's almost like you feel like a broken record

1034
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: a little bit. But it's deservingly still because on that

1035
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: long run that he had, I mean, he could have

1036
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: thrown it away, he could of run out of bounds,

1037
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: but he makes the right decision to go tippy toes,

1038
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: tippy toes, let me see those tippi toes down the sideline,

1039
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: and instead of running out of bounds, he extended to play.

1040
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: It's just a fun guy to watch and a fun

1041
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: guy to root for. Huff. I think one of the

1042
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: cooler things from the broadcast is when you guys had

1043
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: Paul up there, you and Chris did, and very clearly

1044
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: I love how you and Chris by the way we're

1045
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: going about it. It's it's like two buds watching a

1046
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: game like it's it's a really fun listen. Um. But

1047
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: but when you guys had Paul up there, you've got

1048
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: some pretty direct insight into and I Nathan, I've talked

1049
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: about this for We wish Paul would talk more because

1050
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: it's you feel like you learned something. Yeah, you really

1051
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: come away going, oh, I see, you know this makes sense.

1052
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: We were always teasing when he comes in here, we're

1053
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: about to get smarter. Um. And as you're talking to him,

1054
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: you really understand how he views Brissette too. There was

1055
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: a really good exchange there. Um, what did you learn

1056
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: with that conversation with with Paul Dipodestri yesterday in the booth? Yes,

1057
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: spill the beans because I didn't get to hear that.

1058
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: I was in the booth right next to so I

1059
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: didn't get to hear this and tell that's right. So

1060
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: we always have a production meeting the day before the

1061
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: game with our producer and the other talent, and um,

1062
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 1: we were talking about we're gonna get deep a dust

1063
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: in the booth. And you know, at first Rosie was like, okay,

1064
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, coach usually scouts coaches you're talking to him

1065
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: in the game, they're very guarded, you know, they're not

1066
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: really going to give you much. And he kind of,

1067
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, made the mention of that, and and I

1068
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: and I jumped in and I said, whoa. We had

1069
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: Paul on last year, and he's fantastic. Like he comes

1070
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: from a baseball background, his background is not with Bill Belichick,

1071
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: military iron curtains secrets, like he's actually gonna talk and

1072
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: give you his thoughts and kind of give you a

1073
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: window into what they're thinking about. And and he did

1074
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: that again in the game, and I really love listening

1075
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: to him. He does a fantastic job thinking about your

1076
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: questions and he thoughtfully answers them and tries to give

1077
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: you something that really, you know, is you can take away.

1078
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: And I think when he was talking about Brissette, they

1079
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: were talking about sort of the evaluation process that they

1080
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: made with him and going all the way back to

1081
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: when he was an indie and how they feel like

1082
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: breaking down his film that truthfully, like there's a lot

1083
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: of conversation about Garoppolo, and rightfully so because Jimmy g

1084
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: had a great career, but they really really like this Brissett,

1085
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: not only his ability with leadership, but his accuracy, his

1086
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: decision making, the way he takes care of the football

1087
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: and how he hits with what Kevin Stefanski wants to

1088
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: do in this offense. He's a good athlete when he's

1089
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: a big athlete, and he's very difficult to bring down.

1090
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: He does some of those things that Josh Dobbs does

1091
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: where he can get outside the pocket. He can put

1092
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: you in a bind on the defensive side of the football,

1093
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: not knowing if he's going to take off and he's

1094
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: gonna try to scramble or if he's gonna dump it

1095
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: off and try to throw the football. And they really

1096
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: feel like he's a great fit for Kevin Stefanski's offense.

1097
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: And and they're really they're they're not picking up the

1098
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: phone about any other quarterbacks out there during Deshaun Watson's suspension, Joe,

1099
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: as we go to your position of note the offensive line.

1100
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: I thought quarterback was one thing we needed an answer,

1101
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: and we got that. I felt like in Josh Dobbs

1102
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: rather enthusiastically offensive line, could Michael Dunn be the backup center?

1103
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: I thought he was great? What did you think? We

1104
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't really get a chance to talk offensive line the

1105
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: entire broadcast because they were nearly flawless. Actually, the one

1106
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: time that I press the talk back button to my

1107
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: producer and said, hey, let's talk about the old line,

1108
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: this play turned out it was the one holding color

1109
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: that they had, so it was not exactly the great

1110
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: time to highlight the right side of the line, but

1111
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 1: they did fantastic Like, there was hardly any times during

1112
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: that game where the pocket was collapsing or they were

1113
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: missing UH three, or they were allowing free rushers to

1114
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So they were solid. And then and then

1115
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: you talk about their rushing yarders. I don't have the

1116
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: stats in front of you, but almost two nd yards rushing.

1117
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: They had all sorts of rushing lanes opening for the

1118
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: Ernest Johnson and Jerome Ford and then John Kelly when

1119
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: he got an are like. They were running the ball

1120
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: consistently with all three of those guys, and their offensive

1121
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: line look great. Now, granted this was not the Philadelphia

1122
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: Eagles starting off a defensive line which is among the

1123
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: best in the NFL, but when you're talking your seconds

1124
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: and your thirds and they're going against the other team

1125
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: second and third, that's a pretty fair matchup and it's

1126
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good way to evaluate how well they're playing.

1127
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: And Michael Dunn did a great job at the center.

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00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: I think he answered nearly all the questions because he

1129
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: was squalaced. And the one thing you worry about the

1130
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 1: most is the snap that was something that you didn't

1131
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: have to worry about all night. He has thirty two carries,

1132
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy four yards, two scores on the

1133
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: ground for the Browns, five point for a carry in

1134
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: that game. Uh. And I just want to ask you

1135
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: because for me, when I was watching, done what I

1136
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: wanted to see and and I'm hoping you can explain

1137
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: to the great people listening why movement skills are important

1138
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: for the center in this offense. And we got to

1139
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: see him in the screen game. We had to see

1140
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: him get to the second level in some of the

1141
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: tandem blocks where he would then get up and meet

1142
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: the linebackers to pave a bigger hole for a playdown field.

1143
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: And then they ran to the right and had him

1144
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: actually pull from the center spot and he got a

1145
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: huge block to spring the running back on that one.

1146
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: Those movement skills, why is that so important? Especially with

1147
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: what we like to do on offense. So this offense

1148
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: requires your center to be a good athlete in two

1149
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: big ways. One, when you're running outside zone and you've

1150
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: got a shade or a nose, which which means the

1151
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: defensive tackle that's over the center is moved towards where

1152
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: the ball is being carried. So if you can imagine,

1153
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: if I'm the center and the ball is going to

1154
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: my left, I've got a defensive tackle nose guard on

1155
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: my left shoulder. Now I have to reach that guy.

1156
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: So that means I have to take my hat, my

1157
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: helmet and get it to the outside of that defensive tackle,

1158
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: which is very difficult because one, I got snap the

1159
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: ball first, so the ball has got to go between

1160
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: my legs before I can really start moving, which puts

1161
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: you out of disadvantage. And too, when you're playing the

1162
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: center position, you're the closest guy to the defensive line,

1163
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: which means you have less time before you're making contact.

1164
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: So you've got to be able to reach that nose

1165
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: And that was a big reason why Alex mac was

1166
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's favorite and why he brought him to Atlanta

1167
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: and then he brought him to San Francisco because he

1168
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: was really good at reaching that shaded nose guard, which

1169
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: is what you need to be able to get an

1170
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: outside zone place started without the ability to get your

1171
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: helmet to the outside of that nose guard. If he

1172
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: penetrates in the backfield, it forces a immediate cutback. From

1173
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: the running back before the rest of the blockers are prepared,

1174
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: and what happens is then basically you're just trying to

1175
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: get back to the line of scrimmage and prevent a

1176
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: negative play. So you've got to be able to get

1177
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: that place started by reaching that nose. The other thing

1178
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: is we run a lot of pin polls. Like when

1179
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: I was in for Shanahan, we didn't run a whole

1180
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: lot of guard and center pole plays like they were

1181
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: in the playbook, no doubt, like everybody else, but we

1182
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: didn't feature it because we were so good at just

1183
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: running the regular zones. But with why It and Joel,

1184
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: who are both really good pulling guards, we run a

1185
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: lot of those pin pole type plays, those toss cracks,

1186
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: the old Packers sweet play ads, and we'll pull our

1187
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: center and j C was really good at it. Nick

1188
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: Harris tremendous athlete, really good at being able to snap

1189
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: the football and pull around down blocks. And if you

1190
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: can't do that, it really limits what you can do

1191
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: on those pin poll plays because now instead of getting

1192
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: your center out and around, what you have to do

1193
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: is you kind of have to cover it up by

1194
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: either reaching with your backside guard, which is a hard

1195
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: block because now he's got to lose ground and then

1196
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: run and catch up and get in front of that

1197
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: nose guard that's on the back side, or if depending

1198
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: on the front, now you have to have your front

1199
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: side guard and your front side or your center blocked

1200
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: down and you have to have your backside guard pull

1201
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: So he's got to come from another space further away

1202
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: from the play, so he's gonna be slower there, and

1203
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: a lot of times when he's slower to get there,

1204
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: that means the linebacker is a little bit faster because

1205
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: he's closer. And when you're making contact on the offensive

1206
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: side of scrimmage, that's a bad thing for the play.

1207
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: You want to be able to get your shoulders facing

1208
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: downhill beyond the line of scrimmage before you're making contact

1209
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: with that linebacker because it just opens up the whole

1210
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: so much further. So it really puts disadvantage if you

1211
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: don't have a center that can pull around and has

1212
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: that athleticism. And I think what we saw from Michael

1213
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Dunn was he absolutely has that athleticism to reach a

1214
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: nose and to be able to pull around and get

1215
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: into the valley on those sweep and pin poll plates

1216
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: half are we good enough at receiver? Uh? Maybe I

1217
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: know that that was pretty succincted to the point I

1218
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: just I think David Bell played really well, and what

1219
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: we saw from him was like a savv nous of

1220
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: almost a five six year vet play in that position,

1221
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: The way he used body control, the way he would

1222
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: set up those receivers and then find that open space

1223
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: to allow the quarterback to throw into those windows. Um,

1224
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: you didn't like the drop that he had, but I

1225
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: think there's definitely of things to build on. I think

1226
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: Schwartzy made a really nice catch on the sideline, made

1227
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: you feel good, but then he had another drop, and

1228
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: it's about consistency and confidence with him. Um. And then

1229
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: outside of that, you're kind of still going like, I

1230
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: want to see Amari Cooper and d p J play

1231
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: in this offense with Jacoby Precept in that third game,

1232
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: which I think we will, and then I think that

1233
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: will answer a lot of questions about can we live

1234
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: with those two guys David and Joeku. Potentially Harrison Bryant

1235
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: get into the mix a little bit more, especially as

1236
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: a detached tight end trying to take advantage of his

1237
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: size with the matchup problems, and then who's going to

1238
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: be that third guy? You know, David Belt, maybe Daylyn Baldwin,

1239
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: maybe it is Schwartzy. We saw him with an end

1240
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: around in the game, which I think is could be

1241
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: an important part of the offense. But you're you're still

1242
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: not feeling as settled as you wish you were going

1243
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: into this third preseason game. Given that, would you be

1244
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: looking at one of the veterans who was available, or

1245
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: are you trying to, you know, poach somebody that is

1246
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: cut off of another roster. If you were looking for

1247
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: somebody else that you felt, all right, I know can

1248
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: go out there and contribute to our team, you know

1249
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: right away. I made mention of this on the broadcast

1250
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: that if you look at the Eagles receiving room, they

1251
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: got a lot of receivers. I mean, the guys that

1252
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: uh would be in our top three or four that

1253
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: are maybe going to get cut on. You look at

1254
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: our running back room and we've got five dudes that

1255
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: are legit like can carry the load, potential starters in

1256
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. You're only going to keep three, I mean,

1257
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: maybe do you keep four? I don't know. It's gonna

1258
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: be really tough so you're cutting dudes that are starters

1259
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: for some other team, and whenever you have that type

1260
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: of situation, it's only natural to start looking around the league.

1261
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: Before cuts happened to say, hey, guys, this could be

1262
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: good for both of us if we do a little

1263
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: swap here, because we know that we can't keep all

1264
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: these players as much as we like them. So I

1265
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: think that potentially, especially depending on what happens in this

1266
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: last preseason game, there might be some movement between the

1267
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: final preseason game and that first regular season game, if

1268
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: nothing else, to put somebody else in the mix, to

1269
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: try to like start to give them some opportunities and

1270
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: see what happens in that room. If I want to

1271
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Speaker 1: ask you about um, the way that the this is

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01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: our second year now with the seventeen game season, the

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01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: three preseason games there was, I mean, it's fun for

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01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: us because we're doing this show right and so we're

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01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: into the minutia of the roster, the back end of

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01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: the roster. But we've seen pretty tepid responses around the

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01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 1: league from a fan perspective, not just here but around

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01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: the league. Fans not showing up for these games at

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01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: a high high rate. Uh. It was a lot of

1280
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: bad ball, to be honest, Like I headed on in

1281
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: the background for much of the weekend, it was a

1282
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: lot of bad ball. How would you if you were

1283
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Savanski, you're the how would you approach this? How

1284
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: would you approach this preseason window with these three games

1285
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: spread out the way they are and then a pretty

1286
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: decent sized break before you played games account Yeah, I

1287
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: think that he's approaching it in a in a really smart,

1288
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: heavy way. I think, UM, a little bit of action

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: in that first game, second game, probably not as much

1290
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: because you've got a lot of good work in those

1291
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: joint practices, which I wasn't there unfortunately, But listening to

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01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: you guys, it sound like it was very spirit and

1293
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: they got a lot of great work. I know the

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01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: coaches were really happy. It was pretty intense, I mean,

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01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: probably more intense than any preseason game that I ever

1296
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: played in UM. And then the third game, it sounds

1297
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: like the starters are going to get a fair number

1298
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: of reps UM, So it'll be interesting to see how

1299
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: much game plan stuff they throw in there. I know

1300
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: typically in preseason everybody likes to be really vanilla until

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01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: you start getting gashed, like in the game yesterday, Joe

1302
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: Wood's defense was really having a hard time stopping some

1303
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: of those quick in breaking flat raps and hitches and

1304
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: stuff like that, because Gargner Minshew is very good at that.

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: So he just sits back there and they're just running

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01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: r p O s and there's huge windows because our

1307
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: second is just sitting in soft coverage. And so eventually

1308
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: Joe Wood said, screw this. I'm not just gonna sit

1309
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: back and let you beat me seven yards at a time.

1310
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: So we started blitzing a little bit and that's when

1311
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the defense started getting some stops,

1312
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 1: and of course Minshew left the game, so that had

1313
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: something to do with the two. But like coaches always

1314
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: have that game plan out, we don't want to show anything.

1315
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: We want to be vanilla. But then when their team

1316
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: maybe is not playing as well as they want, then

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01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: they start throwing a few more things at him, because

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01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: in the end, these guys are competitors. So it will

1319
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how much game planning goes on

1320
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: in this third game. But I think one thing the

1321
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: NFL really could do that would be good for the

1322
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: game and good for the fans would be to take

1323
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: these joint practices and almost make them like the preseason game.

1324
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: Put him in the stadium, like put them on NFL network.

1325
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: I know coaches hate that and they're going to be

1326
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: absolutely against it, but don't give him a chance. Like

1327
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: why should we even care what they have to say

1328
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: about it, Like, look, they're going on TV. Sorry, it's

1329
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: gonna be basically a game because that's what you guys

1330
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: have made it as far as the structure of the

1331
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: schedule goes. And the fans are gonna love it. I

1332
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: think make it a dollar or make it free. Let

1333
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,479
Speaker 1: them come in and you're gonna make tons of money

1334
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: on the TV rights because those are good on good games,

1335
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: and fans, by and large, we love watching one on

1336
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: one pass rush, We love watching half line, We love

1337
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: watching all of the things that they're doing in these

1338
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: joint practices, and we wish we had more access to

1339
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. Joe, we were watching it last Friday.

1340
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: A Maori broke free of Darius Slay on consecutive routes

1341
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: in the red zone for touchdowns with how many three

1342
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: five yards of separation in both I mean in significant yeah,

1343
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean it was so that what we got to

1344
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: see and Nathan and I were the only ones I

1345
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: got to see it. Described it was everything that you

1346
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: would want, right, It's everything you'd want. Listen. They weren't

1347
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: even happy with Brown's live, like the Eagles coaches, and

1348
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: Brown's live is shot so tight you have no clue

1349
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: what the formation is. You can really just see the

1350
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: quarterback in the ball. You know nothing about what's actually

1351
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: going on. But yet coaches do not like that that

1352
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: that information because I think they're willing to maybe show

1353
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more in a joint practice than they

1354
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: would for things that are out there, you know, on

1355
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: full display in those games. It's tough. I don't know

1356
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: what to say. I don't know what the right answer

1357
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: even is, but it does feel like that would be

1358
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: a more compelling television product than what we are currently getting.

1359
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: You know. I tried to watch last night because I

1360
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: was waiting for for Game of Thrones, and I was

1361
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: just like, all right, get to nine o'clock. So I

1362
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: threw on a little bit of the Ravens and the

1363
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: Cardinals and other than the pregame, which was Jay Glazer saying,

1364
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: you know that the Ravens have made an offer to

1365
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: him that was more than Kyler and Lamar said no,

1366
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: when he wants more guaranteed and he doesn't feel like

1367
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: a deal is going to get done, which was interesting.

1368
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: As soon as the game, so I was like, and

1369
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals black helmets while cool, and they just look

1370
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: like the falcons. Now it was also it looked like

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: and they were in blacks, I mean, they look like

1372
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: the falcons. I was talking to a guy last week

1373
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: as a quick aside on that when the on the

1374
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: because I said, what are the Cardinals doing here? What

1375
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: are we doing with uniforms? And he goes, I never

1376
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: thought of this, because they just gotta take the bird

1377
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: off the helmet, the birds, the anchor. You're trying to

1378
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: build everything around that bird. Just forget the bird. And

1379
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: I thought that you might be onto something there. You

1380
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: may be onto something. I don't know that in Beautiful

1381
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: Paradise Valley it would feel like it would be hot

1382
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: climate for them, it would it would. Yeah, well, look

1383
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: so we got one more off. This is I mean,

1384
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy. We go from eighty five to eighty

1385
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow and then from eighty to fifty three by next Tuesday. Joe,

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01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: you've you know, when you're off, you don't have to

1387
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: worry about these type of things, but you've been in

1388
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: rooms with guys who have what's this like this week?

1389
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: It's tough. One of the things that I hated that

1390
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: I turned into towards the end of my career is

1391
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: like you become distant with your teammates until you go

1392
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: through that cutdown because you've formed so many bonds when

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01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: you have eighty some guys on the roster and you're

1394
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: in that room with fifteen linemen and there's a little

1395
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: bit of turnover and training gamp, but for the most part,

1396
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: you go through four weeks and you're seeing the same

1397
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: guys for fifteen hours a day, and you get you

1398
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: formed some pretty good ons and all of the same

1399
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: thing with the lives and the girlfriends, and all of

1400
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, you cut down to fifty three, which seems

1401
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: like it happens instantly, and you're looking around the room

1402
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: and there's like seven linemen left, because usually you cut

1403
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: down to seven or eight from fifteen, and then you'll

1404
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: bring a guy or two back from practice squad, but

1405
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: that guy a lot of times is turning over, and honestly,

1406
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: it was like emotionally draining at a point where I'm

1407
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be thinking about like blocking Terrell Suggs in

1408
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: week one of the season, and I was like drained

1409
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: that all my friends are getting cut and you know,

1410
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: they were all upset because they might never get another

1411
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 1: chance again. And like it was, it was. It was

1412
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: a really hard time being in that building because you

1413
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: do form these good bonds and like the safety mechanism

1414
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: for me, and I talked to a lot of other

1415
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: vets they did kind of some of the same things. Subconsciously.

1416
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: Was you just told yourself get as close to some

1417
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: of those guys until you have that final cutdown, because

1418
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: after doing it for eight or nine years, you're just

1419
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: like emotionally can't handle that going into the season. It

1420
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: reminds me of growing up, you know, and being around

1421
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: all my brown spotted and I knew I can't I

1422
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: can't get attached to them. We can't let the kids

1423
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: get attached to them. You know. It's it's we know

1424
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: how the story ends for the brown spotted sometimes. Speaking

1425
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: of the brown spotteds, we had one harvested Thursday last week,

1426
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: and this was the first one we named. We have

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01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: not told the children yet that Jack is dead now,

1428
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 1: but I'm wondering when we bring it up, probably after

1429
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: a bite of a juicy hamburger that I no, no, never, never,

1430
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up with. Not during the meal. They'll

1431
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: never eat beef again. No, not during the meal. There's

1432
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: an incredible episode of life, which is fine, but Scott

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,440
Speaker 1: Tennerman does a great disservice to Cartman, and Cartman responds

1434
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: by presenting at the end of the episodes, Got Tenneman

1435
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: with a with a meat pie that turns out to

1436
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: contain Scott Tennerman's parents, and he reveals this to him

1437
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: as he's eating the meat pie, and then he licks

1438
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: up the tears of unfathomable sadness. And you only want

1439
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: that in a revenge situation. If you don't want that,

1440
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: just like, oh, that was a good burger, but it

1441
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: was my pal Jack, And now I'm no, yeah, never

1442
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: the way to handle that off and say, well, Jack

1443
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: ran away? Jack ran away? Happened when he got away?

1444
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: He's on the knees on the Great Ponderosa. We gotta

1445
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 1: get a better fence. That was always our line. He

1446
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: must have ran away, and then we stopped naming the animals.

1447
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: Were you alarmed? And how many animals, and I mean

1448
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't. My younger brother was, so he was he

1449
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: would start to get attached to him. But I learned

1450
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: at a young age to not get attached to them

1451
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: for how it would end. So yeah, that's well. When

1452
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: we had the butcher shop too, right there on the premises.

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01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: So we just did it all there. Yeah, that's a

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01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: full day, all right, half good talking any buddy, great job,

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Speaker 1: fantastic about that works here, Joy, Thanks buddy, great job

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Speaker 1: you and Chriss awesome, alright, the great, the great half.

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Speaker 1: So it's the Villages of that apparently was not on

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01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: the mass singer was just at the Ocean Club but

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01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: with his family for eleven days and that was it.

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01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: A fine resort, fine resort. Yes, had a couple of

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01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: meals there just this past March. I know you've stayed there.

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01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: I got married there. It was very nice. They have villas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think most you think about you think

1480
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: about like the scene from because he in the royale

1481
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: and just that little part that's right there, but there's

1482
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: actually villas are separate. Yeah, just so he just wanted

1483
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: to take a vacation. So I think what I heard

1484
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: luck of Forward talking about this over the weekend, it

1485
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: sounds like what it was was like or maybe no,

1486
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't him, I can't It was one of the

1487
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: NFL guys was saying, you know, kind of connecting dots,

1488
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: and maybe this was something like, hey, we're gonna go

1489
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: on a family vacation before you guys all go back

1490
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: to school. Maybe he made a promise before you know,

1491
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: he decided to retire and thought he should keep his promise.

1492
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: So that's the way it's being spun. He's gone for

1493
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: eleven days, the mill of camp. He's not brady, but like,

1494
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Here's the thing too, is

1495
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: that there have been in the past so many guys

1496
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: who never did anything in camp. I'll even take in

1497
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: our own building J. C. Treader for the last couple

1498
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: of years due to injury obviously, but wouldn't really participate

1499
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: in camp and then would go out and be a

1500
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: stud in the season. And he is not the goat.

1501
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: This is the goat. He is gonna be ready to

1502
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: play when it matters. It's just so against his brand

1503
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: because his brand is he's prepared everybody forever, and so

1504
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: it's just against his brand. Um. I also think the

1505
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: other thing is is, like, you know, the Glazers owe

1506
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: him a pretty big one. Look where the franchise was

1507
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: headed before he decided to predomly go there. What did

1508
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: you make of the stuff over the weekend with the Raiders?

1509
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: Did you see that with Dana White. I need a

1510
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty on this. So why a deal? Why

1511
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: is that deal then shut down by John Gruden, who

1512
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: was given if we all remember now, like what was

1513
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: it like ten years, a hundred million dollars or something

1514
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: tend to be the all end all be? Also, where

1515
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: does Dana White ficket if it into this and why

1516
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: it was the craziest damn things. This happened Saturday night.

1517
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: If you if you haven't seen this story, it happened

1518
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 1: Saturday night. It starts to come out that that Dana

1519
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: White was brokering a deal that had Tom Brady going

1520
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: to play for the then Oakland Raiders or were they

1521
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 1: already in Vegas on their way to AIDS on their

1522
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: way to Vegas Raiders, that that's where he was going

1523
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: to play. Him and Gronk, we're gonna go, by the way,

1524
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good fit. He and Gronk were gonna

1525
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: go play for the Raiders in Vegas and launched the

1526
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: Raiders franchise. And Gruden said, no, that's Dana White side

1527
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: of the story. At what point is Tom Brady gonna

1528
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: get to a microphone and somebody say, hey, Tom, why

1529
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: don't you tell us about Miami. How did uh, can

1530
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: you tell us that went the tampering? What was your

1531
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: role in the tampering? Uh? Tom? How close were you

1532
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: with the Raiders? You wanted to play in Oakland? By

1533
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: the way, that's maybe the Remember we were collecting the

1534
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: dots and he's like, Oh, you're gonna stick with that guy?

1535
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean that we always thought that was Jimmy g Well, right?

1536
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: And where Tom? What was Everybody at the combine thought

1537
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: you were going to the Niners? Right? So where did

1538
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: that come from? It wasn't that a thin air. He's

1539
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: got an answer for some of it. I would think

1540
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: he's not gonna say anything, but the questions will be asked.

1541
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Yeah, because there will be some

1542
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: national people there. It won't be on it. And I

1543
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: don't blame the Tampa Bay people. That's a tough one.

1544
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta continue to work with him. But

1545
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: the I would say that the national people will get

1546
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: to him. Right, those are pretty pertinent. Which of those spots.

1547
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: I mean, he won a Super Bowl in in Tampa,

1548
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: so you're not doing better with that. But the fact

1549
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: that he was thinking about all of the irons he

1550
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: had in the fire. We know for a fact he

1551
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: had Miami's iron in the fire. We know that he

1552
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: went to Tampa. There's all the smoke about forty and

1553
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: now this crazy Raiders one. He went to the right place,

1554
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 1: easy division, easier conference, good young team. I mean, it

1555
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 1: ended up working out really well for had a Super

1556
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: Bowl and Stafford bomb away a blown coverage away from

1557
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: probably one in another. It feels like this was his

1558
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: last choice, but it's probably best. You know, the Raiders

1559
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: would not have been a great choice. Dolphins would have

1560
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 1: been a fine choice, and that would have had I

1561
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: think given him some real well, they wouldn't have had

1562
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: all these guys though, if they would have had him,

1563
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: because a lot of what makes him attractive as the

1564
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: guys they've drafted the last two years, dude just want

1565
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: to play with him. Though they do, they do, but

1566
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: they in terms of like their receiving corps and stuff.

1567
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: Some of those like Wattle was drafted last year. Like,

1568
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, they wouldn't have an ability to draft those

1569
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: guys because they would have won more with Brady. Sure,

1570
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: the Raiders set up is would have been I think

1571
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: the coolest from just like the look of it all,

1572
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: Like him in a Raiders uniform in Vegas like all

1573
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: of that, but also from a roster standpoint and the division,

1574
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty brutal. Yes, you know, it would have been rough,

1575
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: and then back home in San Francisco that would have

1576
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: been That would have been pretty sweet. That would have

1577
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: been the dream. That's what I wanted, That's what I

1578
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: would have loved to have seen. But apparently no. I

1579
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 1: think this whole thing is is too fascinating. Their needs

1580
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: that we need answers, legitimate answers you need to have,

1581
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: you need to have at some point. Here's what happened.

1582
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: We're not gonna get him, you know this. I'm also

1583
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: very curious, like what did the last couple of conversations

1584
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: with Belichick look for him? When Kraft was trying to

1585
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: keep that thing together and they ran a couple of

1586
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: years back. It sounds like Brady maybe on it out

1587
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: earlier and they you know, Kraft got him to run

1588
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: a couple of them back. Imagine brokering that, and that's

1589
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: one of the reasons. So you think that they sent

1590
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy g out of there was to try to buy

1591
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: more time. For sure, they gave him way for eight

1592
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: cents on the dollar to buy more time. Yeah, of

1593
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: course the Belichick was, Now that's what's a lot too

1594
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: plus Yeah, not too pleased, No, not at all. No,

1595
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: it was that's a fascinating one. It's only the biggest

1596
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: story with the biggest face of the NFL of the

1597
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: last twenty years. Yeah. I like that. He was just

1598
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: at the Ocean Club. That's great. I was just taking

1599
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: a vacation. What are we talking about? Practice? I mean

1600
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: that's the thing too, though, let's be serious about it.

1601
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys get days off in training camp.

1602
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: The half that need training camp doesn't need training camp.

1603
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: He's got Mike Edwin, he's got Godwin. You know, they

1604
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: brought in Russell Gauge. He's it's camera with the tight ends,

1605
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: camera breaks, still there, for nets, still there. I mean

1606
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 1: he's worked with these guys, he's worked with that. Now

1607
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna need a new center that like their center

1608
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: went down early in camp. But it's Tom Brady's. He's

1609
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna be just found. Yeah, yeah, for sure at some point.

1610
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean you can't. I don't think you can play

1611
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: quarterback to your fifty, but maybe he can. He can

1612
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: pull it off. It does, it does create the question

1613
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: of I mean, we've already come back a lot from

1614
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: what it used to be. The big the big thing though,

1615
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: because you hear people say this, there's a lot of

1616
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: get off my law people that say, why aren't they

1617
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: practice and why aren't they heating? Why isn't this, Why

1618
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 1: isn't this. Well, let's remember that the reason that training

1619
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: camp was initially put in place is because it took

1620
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: six weeks to get these guys in shape because they

1621
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: didn't have personal trainers, they weren't on fitness regiments. They

1622
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't something where they were ever not in shape.

1623
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: The go go ask Deek, I'm not going to hire

1624
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 1: him and all that stuff, and what that was. I

1625
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: mean he was his offseason, Deek was playing basketball. But

1626
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: go play basketball around northeast. Oh, I'll get police officers.

1627
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like it was a different world, man, Like

1628
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: you had another job, like these guys job as their annie.

1629
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: So when they come in, there's nobody that that's that's

1630
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: that far out of shape. They probably don't need six

1631
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: weeks to get ready to play a football game. They

1632
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: really don't. Certainly not a quarterback. No, And I think,

1633
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, really that's what the preseason and training camp.

1634
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's timing, it's all of that stuff, but

1635
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: most of it is about seeing if you find diamond

1636
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: in the rough in the back end of the roster,

1637
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: and that's really what the most majority of it's about.

1638
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: And sorting out if you happen to have some position

1639
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: battles on your team, sorting those out. That's it. That's it. Yeah.

1640
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: Other than that, not much. Um, all right, Nick Sirianni,

1641
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, you have one more thing, let's just gonna say,

1642
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: and the opportunity to get some big field goals for

1643
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: your new kicker. That was the most I don't know

1644
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: if you were still watching at that point, but that

1645
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: was the most stadium for the fifty yard like there

1646
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: was an electricity in the stadium that particular field goal ten.

1647
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: The fifty yarder had electricity, not like theft and then

1648
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: I was rushed. He crushed it, but then I was

1649
01:20:58,479 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: Then he hit the thing and it was like the

1650
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: in went out of the sales. Yeah, great, I just

1651
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: which went through the middle, because I think that was good.

1652
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: From seventy we figured out it's eleven yards the top

1653
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: of the top of it is eleven yards, so he

1654
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: was eight ft to me, they seem bigger than that.

1655
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's three stories, three enough stories. Yeah,

1656
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: I guess that's true. Oh yeah, I just confused. Yes, yeah,

1657
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: eleven yard okay, yeah, so he was good by eight

1658
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: yards he was good. He was eight yards up, eight

1659
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: or nine yards up the post, yeah, but still going

1660
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: so like it was like dropping straight it. Yeah, he's

1661
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 1: he crushed it. I need a physicist on that one,

1662
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure that that was good. From seventy

1663
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: I think, get another fifteen yards on that ball, like it,

1664
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and give a You've been up in

1665
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: that vantage point a lot longer than I have. But

1666
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: when you watch most people kick those long ones, and

1667
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: even even the Eagles kickers got a nice LEGU was

1668
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: three for three I think on fifty yard kicks last year.

1669
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: J Kelly was the Pro Bowl kicker for the NFC.

1670
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Like those fifty yards get up and then they just

1671
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: kind of like float through his our missiles the whole way,

1672
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 1: Like it gets to there so fast relative to others kickers.

1673
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: I would imagine if you stopped watched his kick from

1674
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: fifty five to the time that hit the upright versus

1675
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: other kickers, in the league. Maybe not a Justin Tucker

1676
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: or you know, a prater. Guys would obviously big legs.

1677
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: It's it's so much faster his ball through the uprights

1678
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 1: than anybody else's. Would you agree with that? You've seen

1679
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: it a lot more than I am from it. I

1680
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: feel like from where I watched the game when the

1681
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 1: fifty or sixty yard or it's almost like a line

1682
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: drive and it's this guy. That field goal post was

1683
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: still shaking when we came back from break two minutes later.

1684
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: It was still shaking. Yeah, he bought. I mean it

1685
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: was a bomb. It was. It was absolutely a bomb. Um.

1686
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: I noticed this yesterday when we were out there at

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Speaker 1: the joint practices. Nick Sirianni with a lot of really

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Speaker 1: nice things to say about Jacoby Brisett. We're gonna play

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Speaker 1: some of that for you coming up next. Blistically the

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Speaker 1: is it runkey dot com to learn more? Yesterday last week,

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Speaker 1: rather we were doing the show in the same tent

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Speaker 1: as the Eagles video team media team. And so as

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Speaker 1: we were doing the show, I heard uh Nick Sirianni

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01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: talking about Jacoby Brissette in in very very nice tones.

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01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: And also Jacoby was on the television broadcast on the

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Speaker 1: sideline with the excellent Aditya Kingkabala, and she asked him

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Speaker 1: about this as well, and the relationship that they had

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Speaker 1: here is coach Sirianni about Jacoby, he's the best. I

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Speaker 1: still I still have my kids asking him, but he

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01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: just said, my kids still ask about Jaka Jacoby doing

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01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: Um my wife still asked about him, like like he's

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01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: just he's just a great leader and a great guy

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01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: to be around. Um and and so, and I always

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: thought this about Jacoby, and I guess I'm not really

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01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be talking. I don't really want to talk

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Speaker 1: about other other people's team, but Jacoby and I are

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01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: close and Jacoby is special to me, so I don't

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01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: mind doing this with him. UM and so, I just

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01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: always thought I thought of him as just such a

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Speaker 1: good leader, UM, such a good teammate, such a great

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Speaker 1: guy to be around every day. I really those are

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Speaker 1: the things that really stick out for me. And then

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01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: and then his in his play, um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't mind saying this, Like I just always thought this.

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Speaker 1: This is a strong, strong man. H the way he's able.

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Speaker 1: I just closed my eyes and think about a play

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Speaker 1: that he made against denver Um in two thousand and nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Uh Vaughn. We're in a two minute drive to win

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Speaker 1: the football game, and Um von Miller comes through on

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: a stunt free and we're backed up. We're in about

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Speaker 1: the four yard line. Jacoby just you know, Von Miller

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Speaker 1: is one of the best players of all the time.

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Speaker 1: He Jacoby gets him off them, scrambles to his right

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Speaker 1: and throws a tight rope forty yards out of the

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Speaker 1: field the t y hill and which he'll just win

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Speaker 1: the football game. And that in that sense. So I

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Speaker 1: just can't say enough good things about Jacoby said, I

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01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: love the man. You see um and then you listen

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01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: to Jacoby and you you listen to coach, to Fantasy,

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01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: listen to Paul from the television broadcaster. They're good with him,

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Speaker 1: they are. He's uniquely a position to handle all of this.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of the perfect eye to handle. I think

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01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: it's hard for people to understand on the outside how

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Speaker 1: much the Browns like Jacoby were setting how they will

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01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: either be proven correct in their assessment or not. That's

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01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: for the games to be played. But they are incredibly

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01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: pleased with him on the field. In the locker room,

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01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: they are incredibly pleased that he is their starting quarterback.

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01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: He's the one that they wanted and they like him

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Speaker 1: more now than they did when they made the decision

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Speaker 1: to get him, which they were thrilled about. And I've

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01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: had talked with Paul de Bedsta myself about it and

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01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: how much they like what he brings to the team

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Speaker 1: in this offense. Of course, his leadership, and they talked

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Speaker 1: with Sirianni, They talked with Frank Wright, who was the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the of the Indianapolis Colts. You know,

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01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: chad o'sha was with him in New England. So there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of knowledge about him from people that Kevin

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01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: s Fansky considers to have very good relationships with. And

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01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: he's been better even than advertised. And he was advertised

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Speaker 1: as being an excellent teammate, an excellent leader, and an

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Speaker 1: excellent quarterback. And so they're they're very excited about him.

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Speaker 1: And and and now you know, we're gonna get to play

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Speaker 1: live games starting September of the eleventh and Charlotte against

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, and that's gonna have a lot of juice.

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01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: That's gonna feel like a massive game. And you hope

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01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: that he's able to come out there and deliver for you,

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01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: and and the Browns certainly believed that he will. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's he's never had you know, in all of his stops,

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Speaker 1: he's never had a situation quite like this from a

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01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: supported ground game perspective, um, And so you know he's

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Speaker 1: going to be in a position, I think really to thrive,

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01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: and I think just his mental makeup, you know, the

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Speaker 1: the idea of you know, a lot has been thrown

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Speaker 1: at him. I mean the luck Wasn't he the guy

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Speaker 1: when Luck retired in the middle of it, all of

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01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, now he's quarterback in the Colts, and that

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Speaker 1: could have been something that was you know, that's a

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01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: lot that comes into that situation where you feel like

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Speaker 1: Luck is going to be the franchise and all of

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01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: a sudden he's not, and you're thrust into it. So

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Speaker 1: he was thrust into it with Brady with the suspension

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Speaker 1: as well. Wasn't he the quarterback when Brady was bouncing

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Speaker 1: got hurt and he had to play on short notice

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night in Houston, Texas. Yeah, so he's been

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01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: he's been through a lot, and he looked good. Like

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Speaker 1: like Zee and I were saying, you know, we certainly

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01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: are aware that you guys haven't got a look at

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Speaker 1: him yet this in the preseason. And while we're saying

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Speaker 1: all this, obviously there's a reason that when DeShawn Watson

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Speaker 1: comes back in week twelve that the way you go

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01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: and it's Watson's right. I mean, there's a difference, but

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01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: there's also um, Jacoby is more than capable. He was

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01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: really good last week against the Eagles. He was very,

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01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: very good in those games, and I anticipate that that

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01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: he will be very good by the time you get

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Speaker 1: the games. Account. Would you blame Saturday, I think, but

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Speaker 1: we've seen from Dobbs gives you a little bit of comfort.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's important for him to get out

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01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: there and throw some passes in a game action. But

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01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's a series. Hopefully have one good series.

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01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: Hopefully do what Jalen Hurts did for the Eagles in

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01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: their preseason game one where he marks him right down

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01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: the field. He goes I think six and six for

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01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: eighty one yards, scores a touchdown and then that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all you need. So hopefully he has one good

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Speaker 1: drive and we can move on. But if you you

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01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: want your O line out there, don't you want Cooper

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01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: out there? You want do you want Chubb and Hunt

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01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: out there? Probably yes, And but those things come with

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01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: some risk. You always worry in the preseason of chasing

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01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: going out on a good one, like we've seen that.

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01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: We're like, you have a bad one, and then like, oh,

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01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: give me one more series and one more series, and

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01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 1: you end up chasing a little bit still, so much

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01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: more to come. You'll listen to Cleve the Brown's Daily

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Speaker 1: on eight f YESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on fifty

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Speaker 1: e s N Cleveland. So you you do have the

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Speaker 1: new Madden, I do you do early review? I've only

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01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 1: downloaded it and I've spent maybe five seconds on it. Yes,

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01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 1: after the games when I can finally relax a little bit. Yeah,

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01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: looks great. There's a cool thing they do, is John

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01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: Madden think at the beginning that's really cool, and yeah,

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01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: a little bit of nostalgia. You get thrown right into

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01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: a a game that's like basically to all Madden teams,

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01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: NFC and a f C and you've got like an

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Speaker 1: NFC farms your quarterback, you got Jerry's um Yeah, like

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01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor on the D line. It's so

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01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 1: all those guys are in the mix there. So that's

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01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: pretty funny. Play that game out and then you kind

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01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: of can go in and you can do the MI

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01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: t you can you know, you can do all the

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01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: different things that you want to do a Ultimate Team whatever.

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Speaker 1: They Yeah, it's funny. The it feels like the two

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01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: K world was so far ahead on that with like

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01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: the old school players, like the kids. Don't all those

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01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 1: guys and the football that's not quite as it's not

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01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 1: to that level, but maybe it'll get there. It's been

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Speaker 1: pretty good, but you'd have to be deep into Ultimate

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01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 1: Team to know that. Yeah, yeah, that's it is in there.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there will be at the end. Yeah, we'll

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01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: need that all right. Cut downs tomorrow five more down

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Speaker 1: to eight and then the final week from that point

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01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: on ending with the Bears on Saturday. The next level

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Speaker 1: is coming up next. Thanks for listening, everybody. Cleveland's Day

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