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Speaker 2: This is Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping

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Speaker 3: Takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now

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Speaker 3: your host, Newie Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome to the Star at Frisco SWBC

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Speaker 2: podcast studio. This is the Media Match, and we've got

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Speaker 2: a fun show for you because it has been a

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Speaker 2: busy day here at Frisco. Brian Schottenheimy, the head coach

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, spoke to the media. We watched a little

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Speaker 2: bit of practice today and we got to go in

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Speaker 2: the locker room. Nick Harris, the foot Worth Star Telegram

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Speaker 2: joining Ri. I got the Hall of Famer Edward also

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Speaker 2: over at WFAA TV. He is here with us, so

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you, ed What was one of your

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Speaker 2: takeaways from today?

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Speaker 4: Seemed like there was a lot of music, a lot

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Speaker 4: of loud music throughout the course of practice. It's new

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Speaker 4: under shot. None of it was on my playlist, by

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Speaker 4: the way, which comes as no summs.

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Speaker 3: Did do some guys.

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Speaker 4: Artists who were still alive or no anyway, there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of gunner from a from a football standpoint.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting to.

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Speaker 4: Hear how Brian Schottenheimer sort of forced conversation about last

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Speaker 4: year's number one draft pick, Tyler Geyton and the dedication

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Speaker 4: he's made to the off season. I wanted to know

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Speaker 4: did and then Geyiton was available to us and he

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Speaker 4: spoke about some of the changes he made and seems

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Speaker 4: to be a guy who at least recognizes the situation

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Speaker 4: that he's in and it needs to be the performance

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Speaker 4: needs to be much better this year than it was

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Speaker 4: last year.

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Speaker 5: Tyler Smith spoke on it too, just from his perspective,

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Speaker 5: how he's changed this off season, whether it be diet

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Speaker 5: or what shot. He spoke to him being the first

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Speaker 5: guy in the building whenever they got back this offseason,

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Speaker 5: Tyler Smith spoke to that. They said they spent a

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Speaker 5: lot of time together those two over the off season.

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Speaker 5: If you're spending time with Tyler Smith, you're probably on

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Speaker 5: the right track.

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Speaker 6: Yes, agreed.

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Speaker 2: And for me and you guys to speak on this

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Speaker 2: to be better. To me, it all starts right there

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Speaker 2: with your own swat analysis, looking at where your strengths,

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Speaker 2: what are your weaknesses, what are your opportunities, what are

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Speaker 2: to me is where the growth comes from. We saw

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Speaker 2: it with Terrence Steele after his first season, where it

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Speaker 2: was a rough rookie season, he ended up developing into

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Speaker 2: a sorder. Chat and I were talked about Jayalen Tolbert,

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Speaker 2: who had a rough rookie year, came back and put

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Speaker 2: in the work, And to me, that's we don't know

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Speaker 2: where he'll be come July, but right now, these are

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Speaker 2: the right steps stick and if you look at Tyler

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's probably the biggest question that this offense

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Speaker 5: now has going into going into this year. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you could say the running back spot, but that left

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Speaker 5: tackle position isn't going to be reliable for you over

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Speaker 5: seventeen games, whether that be Tyler Guiden or if he

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Speaker 5: That's probably the biggest question I would have on this

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Speaker 4: It's been such a huge investment in the offensive line,

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Speaker 4: both with some of the coaching hires that they've made

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Speaker 4: this offseason, you know, investing first round picks and back

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Speaker 3: Three or four.

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Speaker 4: I mean, these guys have got they've got to be good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Schottenneimer's talked about making a priority out of,

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Speaker 4: that's of high importance. And you know, Tyler Smith said

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Speaker 4: today that that Schottenheimer came to him in the offseason

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Speaker 4: before this all began and said, you guys are the

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Speaker 2: Well, the schedule, I mean right out of the gate,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have some serious good d lines that

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Speaker 2: AFC West North, Yeah, NFC North. So I mean you've

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Speaker 4: Plus your own, which contains a team that went to

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Speaker 2: Right, And so to me, I truly believe that we

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Speaker 2: to me, that was why I wanted to ask Ryan

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Speaker 2: we were there when when we saw Tyron Smith retire.

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Speaker 2: You know, for years you were able to not worry

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Speaker 2: about seventy Seven's got it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and it was a problem and they needed

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Speaker 6: Do you fix this?

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Speaker 4: In Geidan's case, I think him recognizing that he did

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Speaker 4: in that direction is really significant because those are some

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Speaker 2: And I go back into the question I had asked him.

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Speaker 2: So many people trusted Tyron Smith, you just trusted seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: How do you go about getting that trust? And he says,

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Speaker 2: right now, I got to go earn it. So I'm

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Speaker 2: liking what I'm hearing now. And it takes action. You know,

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Speaker 2: we can hear things all day long. The actions he take,

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Speaker 4: He still has to be good enough in the end, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: to block the most elite rushers in football.

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Speaker 3: He's going to see a lot of them this year.

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Speaker 5: Availability is going to be big for him too, not

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Speaker 4: Well. I think that's the thing that earns McCarthy and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, those are critical times for him. Coming into the

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Speaker 5: But whether it be the knee or the illness that

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Speaker 4: And then there were all the penalties, you know, he

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Speaker 5: To clean up him and Laramy Tunzel can just hold

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Speaker 2: I did like when Schottenheimer spoke to the fact that

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Speaker 2: in so many ways, hey, the system we have now

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Speaker 2: new offensive line coach, these coaches that he's working with,

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Speaker 2: this fits it, which if you dive into a little

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Speaker 4: Well, Schttenneimer was here, so he witnessed at first hand,

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Speaker 4: like he should have a good sense of, you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't want this comment to come off

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Speaker 5: natural ability that really helped and transitioned. And you know,

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Speaker 5: a lot more of a Dela developmental project, that development

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Speaker 5: with your offensive line coach is so important and I

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Speaker 5: why not you get a Clayton Adams who's an offensive

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Speaker 5: helping with the development. There were things that this franchise

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Speaker 6: And that is to me a positive.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the things I took away today,

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Speaker 2: And like I said, it's all talk. But at least

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Speaker 2: there's sometimes where I wondered if we were getting that

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Speaker 2: account I believe what he could do. So he spoke

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Speaker 2: No many did.

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Speaker 5: He was only available for about forty five seconds, and

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Speaker 5: He's like, all right, well, I guess we're out. Really,

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Speaker 5: he does not look like he added weight. It could

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Speaker 5: just be my poor eyes. I don't know, but it

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Speaker 5: does not look like he added weight. He looks a

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Speaker 4: I think the sense I got from talking to members

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Speaker 4: He's had three defensive staffs in three years, which doesn't

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Speaker 4: make it any easier for him to have success. But

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Speaker 4: talking to some of those people, they they thought he

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Speaker 4: an elite rusher for sure. They see him being maybe

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Speaker 4: a successful two gap type player, but thought he's just

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Speaker 4: hard to motivate, kind of lazy, slow moving around even

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Speaker 4: you know on the practice field, Like those are not

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Speaker 4: what might be the hardest position to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Can you think of any moment in Mozzie Smith's career

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Speaker 5: other than his introductory press conference where you were like,

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Speaker 5: the introductory press conference and he had his mom next

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Speaker 4: And and they've drafted two players at that position in

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Speaker 3: So his job is being threatened by that, you would think.

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Speaker 2: Right, Max to the U c l A kid, Nick

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Speaker 6: We are in the replacement business.

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Speaker 2: And so you know what, Yeah, they should keep trying

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Speaker 3: Know, hey, look and the production isn't there right at all?

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Speaker 6: But year three?

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Speaker 4: It is year three, and what better way to set

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Speaker 2: It right and after year three, I mean, look look

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Speaker 2: we got to get to training camp, but they're gonna

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Speaker 3: And you can't tell in drills like this.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing with jay Toya that he's got the

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Speaker 5: Last year in twelve games, he had seventeen run stops.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't make a friendly little bet with Clarence Hill.

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Speaker 5: So if that does happen, maybe we'll have to get

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Speaker 6: What the bet was.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Cowboys got out rushed by six hundred yards

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Speaker 4: Best rushing team in football, one of the best rushing

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Speaker 5: And then Camp Scataboo and Week two maybe yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, watch out look that they have. They have things

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Speaker 2: and they're right. You know, things that happen in training

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Speaker 2: But Mozzi's got things he's got to answer. What is

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Speaker 6: In year three?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely with you.

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Speaker 2: I think for both guys, oh, you're right, you're right,

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Speaker 2: I mean for Gydon, you're sitting here, okay, you figured

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Speaker 3: In Dallas hangs in the balance on what he does

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Speaker 5: What's fascinating about Mozzie is anytime we asked, whether it

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Speaker 5: It's like, oh, you know, he dealt with the weight

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Speaker 5: it's you're going into year three. You gotta figure it out.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I'll say to this, what you just said.

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Speaker 5: And Mazzie Smith had forty five seconds on the record today.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. And there's a lot

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Speaker 6: Tother. I missed his I missed his deal. But Troy

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Speaker 6: was promoting his beer.

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Speaker 3: A sidecar social Yeah, sidecar still he was bartending again.

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Speaker 6: Something like that.

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Speaker 2: Man, And somebody asked me the question. I said, Man,

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Speaker 2: I can't answ because I don't drink. How is the beer?

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Speaker 3: It's good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I've helped him get it. In one establishment

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Speaker 4: out in Bartonville, Marty Bees. There you miss barbecue tycoon

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Speaker 4: out there, Edward are the beer marketing genius?

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Speaker 6: Help my man, Marty B's it's good.

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Speaker 3: Where's they having a cowboys golf club?

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Speaker 6: Somebody was mentioned in my it's out in.

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Speaker 4: Bartonville, Okay, just outside of Lantana. It's a great venue

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Speaker 4: for barbecue. They have live music out there on the weekends.

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Speaker 3: It's quite a place. I was in church great mentioned

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Speaker 3: Marty be so is they.

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Speaker 4: Have some religious functions out there and early on the weekend,

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Speaker 4: and then they raise hell on the weekend.

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Speaker 5: Okay, how you do it?

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Speaker 6: So normally it's a Bible belt for a bounce.

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Speaker 2: If I get a beer, what I like to do

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Speaker 2: is take the I get some doing some hot dogs

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Speaker 2: and brats.

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Speaker 6: I like to soak him in beer. Just turn up

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Speaker 6: a little bit, throw a chop up.

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Speaker 2: An onion, and throw a little bay leaf in there.

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Speaker 2: So I'll have to maybe get some eight beer for

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Speaker 2: that and get a.

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Speaker 5: Little You should try to cooking out any places.

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Speaker 3: I think it's excellent.

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Speaker 4: No pool though, right, And the guy really cares about

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Speaker 4: his product, yes, like he's not just putting his name

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Speaker 4: on something at all.

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Speaker 3: It's far from that.

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Speaker 6: So I asked Troy a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: So Troy let us, you know, talk to him, and

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Speaker 2: I wondered, what was the inspiration for this? But he

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Speaker 2: said he did an internship in college at a beer

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Speaker 2: distrober so he got in his brain about that.

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Speaker 6: So you know, and ed.

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Speaker 2: You know, from covering guys like Troy for so long,

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Speaker 2: people to see him as one thing. But when you

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Speaker 2: have conversations with him. Man and this dude, this dude's

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Speaker 2: got a bright mind. I remember for a while he had

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Speaker 2: the car dealership. When I came here, Nick the first

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Speaker 2: I bought a jeep. It was the old Troutman autoball

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Speaker 2: way out for so it ended up doing it.

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Speaker 3: It's way out for worth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was way.

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Speaker 2: Out there for back but back then Channel five was

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Speaker 2: out there, so it wasn't that bad for me. So

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Speaker 2: but yeah, the old Troygman Autoball and then later on

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Speaker 2: he had a Ford dealership. So, but Troy has always

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Speaker 2: been a guy that's it's had a lot of different

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Speaker 2: things he wanted to do, but the beer was one

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Speaker 2: that was deep in his heart that he really wanted

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Speaker 2: to pursue. So he's doing that. And then he spoke

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Speaker 2: about Brian Schottenneimery, just saying, hey, it's way too early

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Speaker 2: to exist. I wish him luck, but how do we

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Speaker 2: really know? And it's ota so Troy being uh.

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Speaker 4: He said something like that, there's every team in the

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Speaker 4: league right now has nothing but optimism about what they're

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Speaker 4: going to accomplish, and most of them are going to fail.

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Speaker 6: Hope.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, And it's like like the

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Speaker 2: draft picks. Half half of this class is not going

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Speaker 2: to be good. It's it's just what it is. Half

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Speaker 2: of these guys are just not going to work out here.

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Speaker 4: But he did also go on an ABC morning show,

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Speaker 4: Yes on television, and he picked the Cowboys to want

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Speaker 4: to super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then straight hand looked over. It was just like,

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Speaker 2: get out of here with that, Troy so So. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but but I but it made you what did you

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Speaker 2: do it in jest?

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Speaker 5: Or we just you know, I felt like it was

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Speaker 5: in jest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like, yeah, let me just do that.

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Speaker 4: Well, if if you don't expect a lot and says

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Speaker 4: as much publicly, then you can't criticize them when they

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Speaker 4: failed to achieve. Galloway told me that a long time ago,

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Speaker 4: the greatest Gallowy would Gallowy would pick them. You know,

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Speaker 4: we're talking about the super Bowl era. So Jerry was

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Speaker 4: talking about super Bowl every training camp. That was the expectation.

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Speaker 4: And you know, he would say, so what are you

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Speaker 4: picking on order? I'm like, I don't eleven and five.

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Speaker 4: He goes eleven and five, No, thirteen and three, and

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Speaker 4: we're in the break and I go, you really think

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Speaker 4: they're gonna win thirteen games. He goes, no, But if

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Speaker 4: I say they can, they're gonna be thirteen and three.

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Speaker 4: I can criticize them when they win twelve.

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Speaker 6: I said that they underachieved.

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Speaker 5: You will only criticize them to ten, seventeen and no body.

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Speaker 2: Randy Galloway, one of the greats, learned a lot from Randy.

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Speaker 2: Remember Rain said, you got to learn it to go

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Speaker 2: to the idiots. So Nick, you're you're a youngster.

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Speaker 5: I know about Randy.

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Speaker 2: But when Randy was doing his show and the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: were Super Bowl champs, Jimmy calls up and basically says,

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Speaker 2: put in three inch Bowl letters, we will.

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Speaker 6: Win the game.

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Speaker 2: As a radio host, I don't know if you can

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Speaker 2: get much better gold than that.

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Speaker 6: Is the head coach right.

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Speaker 3: Before they played the forty nine Ers in the championship.

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Speaker 2: Game here yes, with which just set off, Uh. George

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Speaker 2: was mad. The forty nine Ers coach Man Seaford was

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Speaker 2: hot about that. It takes a big brass was to

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Speaker 2: say something like that.

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Speaker 4: And he said, he said, well, he's he's got balls.

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Speaker 4: We'll see tomorrow if they're brass or paper mache.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they're brass.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Jimmy wrote to check we gotta go cash it.

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Speaker 4: And they got no scuffle right before the game. Remember

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Speaker 4: that in the Kevin Smith I think got into it

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Speaker 4: with somebody on the maybe Jerry Rice.

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Speaker 5: I love hearing about winning.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Nick, we're old enough. We covered

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl teams like that long ago. I could imagine somebody,

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Speaker 2: imagine Saint Edwards to me yesterday we had a conversation

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Speaker 2: somebody's midments and being insane that her training gis. I

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Speaker 2: can't back then, Nick, we could eat with the players

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Speaker 2: at lunch.

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Speaker 6: You'd have some great.

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Speaker 3: Commersit down, interview them over lunch. It was fantastic.

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Speaker 6: I mean it was.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy would come over during practices and talk to us

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Speaker 4: for twenty minutes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man, different times, it's a whole different. We

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Speaker 5: could have a whole podcast about the differences between it

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Speaker 5: and then a.

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Speaker 6: Whole different NFL. But which leads me into this.

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Speaker 2: So far and it's and it's it's early, but what

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Speaker 2: would you how would you gray what you've seen from

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Speaker 2: Rian Schetenheimer so far.

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Speaker 5: On the field everything. I can't put a whole lot

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Speaker 5: of stock into what we've seen on the field, just

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Speaker 5: because it's a, it's going to be very vanilla from

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Speaker 5: what we see versus what's actually going to be out there.

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Speaker 5: And also they're still building this thing. And that was

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Speaker 5: one of the questions I had in the press commerce today,

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Speaker 5: is you know, how much is being put into a

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Speaker 5: feedback perspective from the rest of the offense. And he

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Speaker 5: had a good answer there. But all we can really

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Speaker 5: put stock into is what he's done off the field,

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Speaker 5: how they've constructed the roster, how he's put his staff together,

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Speaker 5: how the culture has been built. And it's hard to

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Speaker 5: criticize a lot of those things. I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: from a roster building standpoint, I think there are some

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Speaker 5: red flags that, you know, maybe aren't being dealt with

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Speaker 5: as much urgency as I think maybe they should. I

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Speaker 5: think about that defensive tackle spot, I think about corner.

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Speaker 5: I think you could really use another veteran running back

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Speaker 5: running back. Yeah, I'm okay with the options at running back,

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Speaker 5: and if it doesn't work out in camp, you can

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Speaker 5: go get you one. And I know that's probably easy

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Speaker 5: to say it if it's tackle or corner as well,

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Speaker 5: but I do feel like they have a good mix there.

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Speaker 5: Will it work, I don't know, And I could be

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Speaker 5: I could have the egg in my face, but I

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Speaker 5: think with the options that they have right now at

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Speaker 5: running back, I think they can go into camp and

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Speaker 5: see what they got first.

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Speaker 4: I think he's made a favorable impression with the way

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Speaker 4: he's spoken and the descriptions and the priorities, you know,

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Speaker 4: in ing the roster together.

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Speaker 3: I like that he taught.

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Speaker 4: He basically said, today, go out there and watch us

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Speaker 4: and watch the intensity with which we chased the ball.

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Speaker 3: And I did that, and they did.

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Speaker 4: Like, when the ball's on one side of the field,

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Speaker 4: twenty two guys are on that side of the field

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Speaker 4: when the play's over, you know, I mean, offensive guys

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Speaker 4: are running down the length of the field to block.

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Speaker 4: Defensive guys are chasing the football. But at the so

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Speaker 4: and and there's been all this talk about culture and

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Speaker 4: maybe it's different, maybe it's better, But I didn't really

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Speaker 4: think that was a problem here. I mean, McCarthy always

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Speaker 4: talked about how great the locker room was. I was

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Speaker 4: one of the best locker rooms he's ever had. The

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Speaker 4: guy's been been in the league for twenty years and

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Speaker 4: coach Super Bowl champion, went to playoffs every year, and

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Speaker 4: he thought the culture was outstanding.

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Speaker 3: What I DAK spoke to it the same way.

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Speaker 4: Now now maybe it's not a problem, but now it's better,

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Speaker 4: that's possible.

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Speaker 5: What I think about there is the issues that they

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Speaker 5: had defensively last year, specifically in those first six weeks

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Speaker 5: where Jordan Phillips comes out and he's like, I don't

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Speaker 5: know why I'm on ir asked them or uh there

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Speaker 5: was another defensive tackle one I want to say it was.

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Speaker 5: It may have been trying to Julips. Actually, yeah, Kelvin

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Speaker 5: Joseph a couple of years ago. I think it was

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Speaker 5: still Jordan Phillips being like, there's a lot of guys

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Speaker 5: around this building who don't know their assignments on game

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Speaker 5: day and we can we can't have that, and there's

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Speaker 5: no attention around that. Zeke's comments for sure, and I think.

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Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis called everybody out about practicing the certain one

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Speaker 4: one hundred.

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Speaker 5: Percent DAK as well, And maybe it was a situation

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Speaker 5: where Schottenheimer looked at that from the thirty thousand foot

665
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Speaker 5: view and was like, yes, the culture was good. You know,

666
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Speaker 5: our leaders, we had a good leadership council, we had

667
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Speaker 5: a good core foundation. But that did not extend to

668
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Speaker 5: all fifty three or seventy if you're including practice squad,

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Speaker 5: and I think you're probably seeing a little bit more

670
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Speaker 5: buy in from the bottom roster guys. And not to

671
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Speaker 5: say that there weren't guys on the bottom of the

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Speaker 5: roster that did not buy in, but I think you

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Speaker 5: have an over encompassing culture now with ninety guys rather

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Speaker 5: than probably at this time last year sixty five.

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Speaker 2: Soick Nick and I were there talking with Tyler Swift

676
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Speaker 2: and he spoke about how he really enjoyed the atmosphere

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Speaker 2: that Brian Schottenheimer is bringing, and then between osa talking

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Speaker 2: about the basketball, and you were there when Goetton talked about.

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Speaker 3: I almost walked into the ping pong table because I

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Speaker 3: the same I forgot that, I forgot that I did

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Speaker 3: the same thing.

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Speaker 6: I did the same thing.

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Speaker 4: So you know what they talk about, the ping pong table,

684
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Speaker 4: all the attention to Scott and Schottenheimer. If Schottenheimer doesn't

685
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Speaker 4: win the next coach, the first thing he'll do to

686
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: send a message get rid of the ping pong table.

687
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Speaker 4: Ping pong tables a problem.

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Speaker 5: I thought about that, like what if they start like

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Speaker 5: three and eight that ping pong table and will be

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Speaker 5: that Lucker Roy much longer. It is not going to

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Speaker 5: be that luck.

692
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Speaker 4: But ultimately, it like ultimately comes down to talent and

693
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Speaker 4: preparation and execution every week.

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Speaker 2: And going back into your point the holes they've got

695
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: holes on here that you've got, how do you feel them?

696
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Speaker 2: And you go back to the running back position, Nigo,

697
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 2: what you're saying here in camp? What if we see injuries?

698
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Speaker 2: What if you don't see what you need to see,

699
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Speaker 2: are you going to go make a move? We've seen

700
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Speaker 2: the last two training camps that you could your your

701
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: run defense wasn't good. The wide receiving corps after ced

702
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: Land was was was an issue and they didn't if

703
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Speaker 2: they didn't fix it. So with this schedule and and

704
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Speaker 2: the teams they've got, they could fix some of these things.

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Speaker 6: It's still not be.

706
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Speaker 4: They could be a better team and still not win

707
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Speaker 4: seven games this shit. Yes, with that schedule, Yes.

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Speaker 2: So this this thing is tough right now, and I

709
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Speaker 2: look at it. It's a challenge here. But so far

710
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Speaker 2: from what I've seen in Brian Schotenheimer, I would say

711
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Speaker 2: I feel like he's got a strategy. I feel like

712
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Speaker 2: there's a strategy and the buy in he's getting from

713
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Speaker 2: these players, and these players are they're talking about what

714
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Speaker 2: they like and you never know. And I go back

715
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Speaker 2: to one of the changes I saw is when when

716
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Speaker 2: TCU replaced Gary Patterson and they put in Sunny Dikes,

717
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: and the players openly spoke about the differences and what

718
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Speaker 2: they ended up playing for the.

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Speaker 6: National Championship that year.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes a change can be good, a different way

721
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Speaker 2: of going about things. And obviously, Shoty was around Pete Carroll,

722
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Speaker 2: and we know the kind of teams that Pete Carroll

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Speaker 2: had from USC and and and Seattle in the National

724
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Speaker 2: Football League. They were about competing, guys seemed to enjoy

725
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Speaker 2: themselves and have fun. And I think that's what he's

726
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Speaker 2: bringing here so far.

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Speaker 4: That's what you can definitely see how he convinced Jerry

728
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Speaker 4: and Stephen to hire him and give him a head

729
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Speaker 4: coaching opportunity. But the way he's up there and he

730
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Speaker 4: talks about football with a passion and the insight that

731
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Speaker 4: he had and the experience that he has, you can

732
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Speaker 4: see how he talked him into this that he was

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Speaker 4: capable and deserving of the opportunity. And I think they

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Speaker 4: backed that up for the most part with the way

735
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Speaker 4: they've supported him this offseason and in the draft and

736
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Speaker 4: in being more active in free agency than they've been

737
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Speaker 4: in previous years. But yeah, they still have some holes

738
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Speaker 4: on the rock.

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Speaker 5: They've supported him a lot more than they did McCarthy

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Speaker 5: in the first couple of years.

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Speaker 3: And certainly in the last year.

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Speaker 5: First, certainly in the last year. Certainly he was in

743
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Speaker 5: the locker room today.

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Speaker 2: I McCarthy, Yeah, Mike mc no, no, no, no, I

745
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Speaker 2: was joking, shy, I'm sorry, no, shot, he was what

746
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Speaker 2: happened there?

747
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Speaker 6: I ran into him in the locker room.

748
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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean, you know in Michael Parson's

749
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: comments about McCarthy last year that that was interesting as well.

750
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Speaker 3: Question was work ethic, Well that's how it came across.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know that. Yeah, yeah, about Zach Martin just anyway.

752
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Speaker 3: It feels bad for Zach Martin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so I think there was.

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Speaker 3: There was some That guy's not been here much. By

755
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Speaker 3: the way, Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this, I get it, I get it.

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00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: This this is one I'll put on the team.

758
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 6: There's this should have been taken.

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Speaker 3: Care of, but it never is.

760
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Speaker 2: And yeah, you're right, so I don't blame him for

761
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Speaker 2: not being here. I wasn't blame yeah, you know, I'm

762
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: just saying I don't blame him for not being here.

763
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Speaker 2: This thing should be done. You want him, he wants to.

764
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Speaker 3: Figure out He already told you he'd play for less.

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Speaker 6: Right, figure it out that that's.

766
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Speaker 3: Six months ago he said he would.

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Speaker 2: That's one of those situations. I look at the team

768
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: like this, This doesn't make any sense. You want the player,

769
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Speaker 2: the player wants to be here. You're both good for

770
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: each other. You got a new head coach, you got

771
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Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator. Man, get this done. Mainly for

772
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Speaker 2: the coaches. Remember when Garrett was was so adamant of Okay, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm on a one year deal and I don't have

774
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Speaker 2: my best football player here. He's out figure this thing right.

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Speaker 4: That's that's how Zeke got the record contract, which was

776
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 4: a horrible mistake obviously, but that is why they signed

777
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Speaker 4: Zeke and did all the things for his contract that

778
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: they said they would never do for running back, and

779
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: it wound up being a terrible, disastrous decision for a

780
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Speaker 4: lot of reason. It's not the least of which is

781
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Speaker 4: it cost him a chance to get Dak signed that

782
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: year and Amari Cooper signed. But yeah, the other thing

783
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Speaker 4: I thought of recently was remember last year McCarthy talked

784
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Speaker 4: about how he wanted his entire team. You have to

785
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: have your entire team here in April to start the

786
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 4: off season program. And with the exception of Michael Parsons,

787
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Speaker 4: they really have that this year.

788
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Speaker 3: They didn't. They haven't had it in past years.

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Speaker 5: Agreed, agreed, you put any stock into Trey One Diggs

790
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Speaker 5: not being around here now, I know he would be

791
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Speaker 5: with the rehab group, but we see all those rehab

792
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Speaker 5: guys out there, Josh Butler, John Stevens to Marvin Overshown, Savonnervel.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what conversations have gone into that. You

794
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Speaker 4: would assume that he's spoken to the coaching staff and

795
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: to Jerry and Steven and said, I think this is

796
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Speaker 4: more important and I'm really trying to dedicate myself to

797
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Speaker 4: my rehab this time. Criticized me for not doing that

798
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: last year, and maybe justifiably so, and so now I

799
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Speaker 4: really am committed, and I can get my work done

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Speaker 4: here better than I can there. I'd like to stay here,

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Speaker 4: and maybe they signed off on that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Is he holding out? We're gonna have a discussion.

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Speaker 3: He's doing some reporting on Diggs in his absence.

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Speaker 2: Joe Milton was in the locker room very active today.

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Speaker 2: Here he was running second team reps versus Will Grier.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that day?

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot to be made of that

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Speaker 4: right now at this point in time. But he doing

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Speaker 4: that at training camp the week before the season starts,

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Speaker 4: it will be significant. I mean, I think I think

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Speaker 4: they like Greer, but he's got more experience They've got.

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Speaker 4: They've made an investment, certainly in Milton. Has a lot

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Speaker 4: of upside and I saw him do a backflip before

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Speaker 4: practice even started today.

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Speaker 5: Nice. It's tough to do it six' five or, whatever

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Speaker 5: but it'll.

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Speaker 4: BE i think it creates an interesting preseason competition between

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Speaker 4: those two. Quarterbacks they're probably not gonna Play dack at all.

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Speaker 4: Anyway last year they Gave lance all the reps to evaluate,

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Speaker 4: him SO i think it'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 4: those two perform in the preseason.

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Speaker 5: GAME i think it would help to Get dak in

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Speaker 5: the first team at least one drive per. Game just

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Speaker 5: get him out, there get him comfortable pickings out, there you,

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Speaker 5: know live balls on air instead of it being balls on,

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Speaker 5: here it's it's live. COMPETITION i think it would. Help

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Speaker 5: but if we're looking into the into the PRESEASON i

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Speaker 5: Think milton has a pretty good advantage. There look at

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Speaker 5: the reps here, today just charting from, today ten snaps For,

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Speaker 5: milton three For, Greer SO i think there is probably

875
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Speaker 5: a clear distinction. There BUT i Thought milton looked a

876
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 5: lot better today than what we saw from him last. Week,

877
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 5: now talking to people in the, building last, week the

878
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 5: media session that we saw was kind of an outlier

879
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 5: compared to how he has performed early. On they've really

880
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 5: liked what he's done and how he's taken some intention

881
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 5: in the meeting. Rooms but today seven for, eight he

882
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 5: had a couple of throws that made everyone kind of

883
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 5: look around, like oh, okay there was one about forty yards

884
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 5: downfield Of Ryan flinoy that caught my. Eye then he

885
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: had another one that was kind of on the run

886
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 5: across the middle of the field across his body To

887
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 5: Trey Shawn holden for roughly twenty. Yards but other than,

888
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 5: that there was a lot of quick game stuff today

889
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: with both first hand second. Team But milton Is. Milton

890
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 5: you know it's gonna be fun to watch his. Progression

891
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: and you know you're not expecting him to start anytime

892
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 5: soon unless there's an injury involved To, dak but you

893
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 5: know you hope to see progression and, development and this

894
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: is a fun place to start with. THAT i think

895
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: a better place than Where Trey lance was when he got.

896
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 4: HERE i was interested watching practice just how many balls

897
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 4: get thrown to the running.

898
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 5: Backs, yeah there's a lot of quick.

899
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: GAME i think that's gonna be a huge part Of shottenheimer's,

900
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: offense and he's got backs who have that capacity With

901
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: Javonte Williams, Blue thank.

902
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: You that was exactly WHY i was going to. Go

903
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: you've gotten the kind of guys, that, hey if they

904
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: can make the first guy, miss they're gonna be able

905
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: to get out there in some space and they come.

906
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 5: On so come, on you got a root for the kid.

907
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 5: MAN I.

908
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: EMA i did think in general watching practice there were

909
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of receivers on the ground catching.

910
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 5: Balls yeah not. Good, yeah especially good for, you especially For. Milton,

911
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: yeah got.

912
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: It they've got to and some of them were unnecessary

913
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: in my, opinion watching, them like the receivers going to

914
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: the ground to make sure he makes the, catch like

915
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: you gotta be sure you're gonna catch the, ball and

916
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: then you got to run for fifteen years after. That you,

917
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 4: know that's got to be the, goal and the quarterback

918
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 4: has to be accurate enough to hit the guy on the.

919
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: Move Jake ferguson was catching a couple of balls out there,

920
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: today and there's one player WHEN i think of a

921
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: bounce back. Player they Need Jake ferguson to have a

922
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 2: bounce back season because IF cd is getting Double George

923
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: pickens's getting won one. COVERAG i, Mean Jake ferguson should

924
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: and he's a free, agent he should have a good.

925
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 5: Season, Yeah and that was a question THAT i had

926
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: today loaded up For, shoddy but they cut the press

927
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 5: conference a little. Short is and it's probably Something i'll

928
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 5: ask On, tuesday is you've gone back and you've looked

929
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 5: at all the cuts from the past, Season you've evaluated

930
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 5: all these players. Individually what did you see From Jake

931
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: ferguson to where he could be? Better where did he

932
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 5: fall short last? Year was it an injury thing where

933
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 5: that knee sprain In week one bothered him a lot

934
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 5: more than we, anticipated or the concussion late in the,

935
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 5: season whatever it may, be you would help That Jake

936
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 5: ferguson has a better year with a Healthy dak and

937
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: him healthy as. Well you, know if seven hundred yards

938
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: is not, accomplished then it's probably underachieving For Jake, ferguson.

939
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: Well dak throughout his curves about a quarterback who really

940
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: relies on the tight, ends, Right LIKE i think it

941
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 4: was some stat like Only Patrick mahomes who Has, kelsey

942
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: throws the ball more frequently to his tight end Than

943
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 4: dak has. Done And dak really needs that threat in

944
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: the red. Zone they were horrible in the.

945
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: Red zone last.

946
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: Year they led THE nfl into football over in the red.

947
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: Zone he's got to trust him and he's got to

948
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: Beat he's got to win one on one and come

949
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: up with the big catches when there are points to be.

950
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: Scored, look he's got an opportunity to. Eat he's going

951
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: to be a free. Agent and, yeah this this is

952
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: an opportunity for. Him AND i just think about when

953
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: when people talk about how's this team going to get, Better,

954
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: well you just some player Like jake Furg you need

955
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: to play up to the, level Right and last year

956
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: he dipped down AND i know some people thought he

957
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: was going to take another step. Up he did not

958
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: took a. Regression so he's got to go go back

959
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: to being the guy he was two years. Ago and

960
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: if he, is then this football teams be in a better.

961
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: Place but from a standpoint of having lamb pickings out, THERE.

962
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 6: I need you, KNOW i need to SEE.

963
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: I need you would hope it was more a function

964
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: of inconsistency of who they had at quarterback from week

965
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 4: to week and his own injury.

966
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Situation that caused his performance to.

967
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: Plummet the overall tight end room not necessarily a red,

968
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 5: flag but a bright yellow. One very subtly is is

969
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 5: that tight end. Position because let's Say Jake ferguson doesn't

970
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 5: make that step forward and he's consistent with where he

971
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: was last, year schoonmaker had a bad. Drop today you

972
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 5: he has not lived up to a second round. Billing

973
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 5: and the depth of that room hasn't stayed healthy over

974
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 5: the course of the last couple of. Years you brought

975
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 5: in a lot of undrafted, guys but how much of

976
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: those would you rely upon in game. Situations brevin Span

977
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 5: ford is the Guy i've looked at in These ota

978
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: sessions of man he looks. Good other than, that it's, like,

979
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: okay it's we haven't seen a whole lot From. Jake,

980
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 5: yeah they had some quick game action to him. Today John.

981
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 5: Stevens John stevens is still recovering from the TORN. Acl

982
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 5: he was with the rehab group today and you know

983
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 5: he's coming off back to back torn. Acls now can

984
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: he stay? On can he get on the field much

985
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: less stay on the. Field and then you're talking about

986
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 5: guys Like princeton pant And Rivaldo. Fairweather we're talking trivia questions.

987
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 5: Now SO i don't. KNOW i think there's SOME i

988
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 5: think there's some concern maybe with the tight end room

989
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 5: if they do not step up early in the season

990
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 5: and provide For Dak, prescott, cause like you, said he

991
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: realized that tight end. Position if he can't rely upon

992
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 5: it early, on is that something that they maybe need

993
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 5: to go to acquire mid?

994
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: Season they could have drafted a guy in the first

995
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: round who can.

996
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 5: Play definitely could have, well you, know IF i could,

997
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 5: HAVE i also would have been. Fascinating that would have been.

998
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: FASCINATING i think of this from the standpoint, of you,

999
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 2: Know june first is coming.

1000
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: Up, yeah that's how you're gonna get a.

1001
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: Cut, Yep june first is coming around. Here so what

1002
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 2: could potentially be out there on the, Marketplace and there's.

1003
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 5: Some fascinating guys on the trade block?

1004
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: Too a tight.

1005
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 5: End there's a couple of. GUYS i don't think we

1006
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 5: can say these on this, air right Be.

1007
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: Why please?

1008
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 5: Don't, okay let's make sure there's a double check IN

1009
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 5: i don't know if those rules applied to all. SHOWS

1010
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 5: i didn't know there are any.

1011
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 6: Rules there are really there are rules. Here But Brian

1012
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 6: schottenheier wants to run the.

1013
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: Football if you want to run the, football you know

1014
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: what you need to have a blocking tight. End and right,

1015
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: now there's no one here known for that in terms

1016
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: of and having proven it in THE nfl that you could,

1017
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: SAY i trust trust with cards three things TO i

1018
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: prove the. Consistency they do not have a tight end right?

1019
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: Now who you could trust and say is a blocking tight.

1020
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 5: END i Think brevin Span ford you could trust in

1021
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 5: those blocking. Situations it's how he carved a roster roll last.

1022
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 6: Year time proven consistency to do.

1023
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 5: IT i got. YOU i got that that.

1024
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: Thing to, say, hey look you know proven player in,

1025
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: games that thing like we've got. That they don't have.

1026
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: That you got a, potential you know right, there. Potential

1027
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: but you know a guy that could, say, hey, booms

1028
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: this is his calling. Card we've seen him do it

1029
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: here in games that hasn't happened, yet and one that you,

1030
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: Know schottenheimer has been able to sit up here and, Say,

1031
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: OKAY i know what this guy can. Do And bill

1032
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: parcels And bill was always trying to bring in. It

1033
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean it was a position right like we

1034
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: drafted one, guys can we do next? Year so you,

1035
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: know he was just always trying to Find Mark Bravaro part.

1036
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: Two so Here's Jason, whitten you, go you're. Good, No

1037
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: then he drafted the dude From Notre dame like we

1038
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: just had another. Guy the next, thing you, know they

1039
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: bring In martel's BEEN i, mean there's always bringing in

1040
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: in tight ends and so but he was looking At

1041
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: god to be able to block for. Him you know

1042
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 2: he wanted, that and So i'm just assuming If i'm

1043
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: going to believe That Brian schottenheim was talking about and

1044
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: running the, football you're gonna have to have a complimentary tight.

1045
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: End and if your left tackle position is an, issue,

1046
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: yeah you're going to need a blocking tight, end which

1047
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: is WHY i, say you, know Post june, first, MAN

1048
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: i think If I'm will, mcclaan we're getting.

1049
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 3: There it's only a couple days.

1050
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 5: Away there was a point in the season last YEAR

1051
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 5: i think it, was, gosh it's Probably November, december there

1052
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 5: was a coach on this coaching staff that it's said

1053
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 5: That Hunter lucky is playing like the tight end too

1054
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 5: on this roster right. Now and that's how bad the

1055
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 5: position group had, gotten whether it be from, injuries not

1056
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 5: stepping up and playing to the. Billing that's more of

1057
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 5: an indictment on Schoon. Maker reven Span. FOD i thought

1058
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 5: he had good moments last, year especially down the, stretch

1059
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 5: and that was Before schoonmaker really had that bounce back

1060
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 5: and at the end of the year last. Year but

1061
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 5: if there's any point in the season where you're saying

1062
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: your full back at six foot. Whatever maybe six foot

1063
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 5: probably flat is your tight?

1064
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 11: End?

1065
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: Two that's an. Issue that's an.

1066
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 6: Issue, yeah, Yeah.

1067
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to.

1068
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 8: ME i have to.

1069
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 4: STOP i can't work in this. Zoo there's a group pass,

1070
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: by a tour group passing, by AND.

1071
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: I JUST i.

1072
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 5: Can't they're banging on the. Windows can't go.

1073
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 6: Down To houston with their. Ty you have to worry about.

1074
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: It see they had a good title, then, yeah, yeah,

1075
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: yeah so there.

1076
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 6: You, go there you.

1077
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 5: Go we love the people around.

1078
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 6: Here you know, what, guys it's a perfect place to

1079
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 6: end the. Show how about?

1080
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,560
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1081
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,840
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1082
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1083
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1085
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