1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center Ted Cruz week in Review, 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you, and here are the big stories 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: that you may have missed that we talked about this week. 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: First up, a New Mexico judge now behind bars for 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: housing an illegal gang member and the AG is not 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: backing down on activist judges either. I'll have that for 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: you in just a second. Also, Donald Trump ross ABC 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: News in a one hundred day interview in the Oval 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: office and what he had to say, it went viral, 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: and we'll play it for you as well. And finally, 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: DOGE and the Institute for Peace, well they're exposing they 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: weren't actually very peaceful. Is they were giving money to 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: former terrorist members. It's the weekend review and it starts 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: right now. So when you combine this and this these 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: types of arrests, there is no inclination here that this 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: is preemptively a idea or a mindset by the DOJ 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: or anybody else. This is reactionary to these activist judges, 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: and that's something that the media is also distorting. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: Well it is, and I will say, look, there's another 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: story out of New Mexico, which is former Donya Anna 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: County Magistrate Judge Joel Kano sixty seven his wife, Nancy 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Conos sixty eight are in custody right now. They were 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: arrested by Homeland Security at their La Cruze Las Cruces home. 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: They were arrested for harboring a gang member, a trender 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Aragua gang member in their home. And this trend to 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: Iragua gang member. He's covered in gang tattoos, tattoos, and 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: the judge faces charges of tampering with evidence. Now you 29 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: know what he did? What was that he took this 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: Venezuelan gang member's cell phone, smashed it with a hammer 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: because it had incriminating evidence of the gang member with firearms. 32 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: And then he went and disposed of of the of 33 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: the cell phone. So who's trying to hide evidence? Now? 34 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: Do you know one of the pictures that was on 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: the cell phone allegedly that the judge destroyed with a hammer. 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess it's probably one of those good old 37 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: gang sign pictures, right, because that's always what the gang 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: members have on their phone. 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Now it's worse than that. It's a picture of two 40 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: victims who are decapitated. We're not talking nice, fuzzy friendly 41 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: gang members. We're not talking as the media loves to 42 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: call call the illegal immigrant up in Maryland a quote 43 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: Maryland band. This is a gang member who allegedly had 44 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: pictures of two people with their heads cut off on 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: the cell phone. And what does a Democrat judge do 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: in New Mexico, Well, you got a gang member. He says, Hey, 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: let me hide you in my house and here give 48 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: me that phone because they could use that to prosecute you. 49 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to smash it with a hammer and dispose 50 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: of it so they don't have the evidence to convict you. 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: That is bizarre, and that is a Democrat judge. 52 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: The Attorney General, by the way, she came out strong 53 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: and said we're not backing down when we see this 54 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: type of activism. Here's part of what she had to 55 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: say on Fox. 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: And to set the stage for you and Sandra, this 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: was truly horrific. This guy was in court being prosecuted 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery. He had 59 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: beat up two people, a guy and a girl. Beat 60 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: the guy, hit guy thirty times, knocked him to the ground, 61 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 3: choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: had to go to the hospital. And John. You know, 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate. They 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: wanted to cooperate. They were sitting in the courtroom with 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: the state prosecutor. The judge learns that Ice was outside 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: to get the guy because he had been deported in 67 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, came back in our country, commits these crimes, 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: charged with committing these crimes, victims in court. Judge finds out. 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers. 70 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk 71 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: to the chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom 72 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: here going to believe this, takes the defendant and the 73 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: defense attorney back in her chambers, takes them out of 74 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: private exit and tells them to leave. While a state 75 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: prosecutor and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom. 76 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: You hear her explaining this, and you got to think 77 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: the majority of Americans, if they know that story, they're 78 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: going to be outraged, just as outrage as she is. 79 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I want to play 80 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: a second clip from Pambondi where she's talking about the 81 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: new Mexico judge, because this is not a crazy outlier. Unfortunately, 82 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: this is a pattern. Listen to the Attorney General talking 83 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: about this new Mexico judge harboring a trender Ragua gang 84 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: member in his home. 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: I mean, when you look at the associations with this 86 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: Violet Venezuelan gang Trende Arragua and this person that they 87 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: harbored in their home, he was showing signs through clothing, 88 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 4: We're told, tattoos. There was evidence through voice messages and 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 4: text messages of his association to TDA. So what charges 90 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 4: will Cano and his wife face if any? 91 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 3: So, Judge Cano seemed to be former Judge Cano got, 92 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: he got. His charges were just unsealed. He's charged with obstruction. 93 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: He is charged. He admitted posts Miranda, he took one 94 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: of the TDA members cell phones himself, took it, beat 95 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked to 96 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: the pieces to a city dumpster to dispose of it 97 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: to protect him. The wife also is charged with destroying evidence, Sandra. 98 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: Not only that this TDA member and he had on 99 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: a necklace that said kill, something about death. He had 100 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: tattoos all over him. He also had on his cell 101 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: phone pictures of two decapitated victims, two victims, decapitated, gruesome photos, 102 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: and he was sending them out, and whoever he was 103 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: sending them to was sending back saying, Hey, you need 104 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: to be careful. You shouldn't be sending these You shouldn't 105 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: be texting these photos out. Not only that, these two 106 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: the judge and his wife gave him assault rifles that 107 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: belonged to their daughter. That's what they're charged with in 108 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: the criminal report. Effi, David. He goes to a shooting 109 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: range with these assault rifles with a suppressor, with other 110 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: known TDA members and they're shooting. This is the last 111 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: person that we want in our country, nor will we 112 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: ever tolerate a judge or anyone else harboring them lit. 113 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: I'm just so glad we have an attorney general. You're 114 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: good friends of Pam. We've had her on the show 115 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: that is able to articulate this the way that she 116 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: is to continue to combat the lies they're being put 117 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: out there about who is actually getting arrested, who were targeting, 118 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: and who we're trying to get out of the country. 119 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: No, that's exactly right, and it's the simple principle that 120 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: no one is above the law. Here's what Cash Betel, 121 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: the head of the FBI, to tweet it out. Quote 122 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: just now, the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 123 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: on charges of obstruction after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing 124 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: an immigration arrest operation last week. We believe Judge Dugan 125 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be 126 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: arrested in her courthouse Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject, 127 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: an illegal alien, to evade arrest. Thankfully, our agents chase 128 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: down the purp on foot and he's been in custody since. 129 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: But the judge's obstruction created increased danger to the public. 130 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: We will have more to share soon. Excellent work. And 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: then the Attorney General Pambondi, she tweeted, I can confirm 132 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: that our FBI agents just arrested Hanna Dugan, a county 133 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: judge in Milwaukee, for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid 134 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: arrest by ice. No one is above the law. Somehow, 135 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: Democrats believe that if they don't like a law, they 136 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: can just ignore it. They can defy it, by the way, 137 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did that for four years, 138 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: they just utterly ignored federal immigration law. And unfortunately this 139 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: attitude of lawlessness, we're not bound by the law. Not 140 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: only that, we're going to actively fight federal law enforcement. 141 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Who is trying to enforce the law, And what are 142 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: they doing this for. I mean, Ben seriously explained to me, 143 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: help me get in the head of let's say this, 144 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: New Mexico judge, New Mexico Judge, you and your wife say, hey, 145 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: we got some gang members from Venezuela. They're covered in tattoos, 146 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: They've got a necklace that says kill. They have cell 147 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: phones with pictures of people with their heads cut off. 148 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Let's bring them to my house. Like, how explain to 149 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: me that thought process. My brain is not nimble enough 150 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: to get around this. 151 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: See this is where I think to myself. I'm like, 152 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: all right, well, then there's got to be some sort 153 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: of incentive that is connecting them. There's got to be 154 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: something to gain here personally, because I can't just imagine 155 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: this judge is just like, yeah, we genuinely want to 156 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: hang out with people that are celebrating or involved in 157 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: this type of criminal activity, including as you described it, beheadings. 158 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, you and I watch breaking bad. I don't 159 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: know if this is a judge that's on the take, 160 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: if there's corruption, if he's been paid by the gang. 161 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ideological and stupid or corrupt 162 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: or what. There's clearly more to this story we will learn, 163 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: but the facts on the face of it are astonishing. 164 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: And what's amazing, I don't know of a single Democrat 165 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: elected official who's denounced this conduct by the judges. Instead, 166 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: what they're saying is they're rushing to defend these judges 167 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: that are brazenly, brazenly defying the law. 168 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 169 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 170 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. 171 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Here's something else that President Trump said at the rally 172 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: where he actually reprised my favorite line from his State 173 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: of the Union address this year, where he talked about 174 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: how Joe Biden had said just one year earlier that 175 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: he the only way to secure the border is if 176 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: Congress passed new legislation. Give a listen to what President 177 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: Trump said. 178 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: For years, Joe Biden and the media told us that 179 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: stopping the flood of illegal immigration was absolutely impossible. He 180 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 5: said it was impossible. He didn't know what the hell 181 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 5: anybody was talking about. He said it was impossible. That 182 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 5: the president had no power to stop what was needed 183 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: in the form of legislation. He needed legislation, he had. 184 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: No power to get. 185 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 5: But it turned out that all we needed was a 186 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 5: new president. 187 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: He's right, all we need was a new president. And 188 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: they said that wouldn't even get it done. Well, guess what, 189 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: not only did you get it done, but even the 190 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: mainstream media now Senator is forced to report on just 191 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: how big of a victory this is for Trump at 192 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: the border. ABC News they put it this way in 193 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: their own interview with the President. 194 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 6: Here in the Oval office. It's special. One hundred days 195 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 6: into your second term. So what's the one thing, just 196 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 6: one thing that you think is the most significant thing 197 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 6: you've done so far in these hundred days. 198 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 7: Well, I think maybe the border is the most significant 199 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 7: because our country was. 200 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 6: Really going bad. 201 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 7: They were allowing people to come in from prisons, as 202 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 7: you know, and you've heard me say it, but you've 203 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,359 Speaker 7: heard a lot of people say it. Prisons, mental institutions, 204 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 7: gang members, murderers, We had many murders, eleven eight hundred 205 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 7: and eighty eight. They think some murdered more than one person. 206 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 7: So yet murderers coming in. You had everybody coming in, 207 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 7: and not just South America, from all over the world 208 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 7: that were emptying their prisons into our country. And now 209 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 7: it's totally closed down. And you've seen just yesterday they 210 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 7: announced ninety nine point nine percent. Nobody thought that could happen. 211 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 7: Then it happened quickly, very quickly, and I think that's 212 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 7: very significant. But we're doing other things that are very significant. 213 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 7: Results will take a little bit longer because it's one 214 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 7: of those you know, it's complicated. It's many years of 215 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 7: trading abuse. We've been abused by other countries for years 216 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 7: and years. They laughed at us, they thought we were 217 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 7: stupid people. And we're fixing it. And I think that's 218 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 7: going to be very very important. 219 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 6: But I have a lot of ground to cover. 220 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would really say that that the border is 221 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 7: so important, you know, just we'll get there. 222 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 6: The immigration is huge, and we're going to get there, 223 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 6: but I want to start. 224 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: You hear him say the southern border is totally closed 225 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: down ninety nine point nine percent. I'll be honest, I 226 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: don't even think Americans that voted for Donald Trump, that 227 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: believed in him, thought he could get this done this 228 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: quick with those types of numbers. 229 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: The numbers are staggering. He said, nobody believed we could 230 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: get there. I actually think that's wrong. I think Donald 231 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: Trump believed he could get there. He knew he could 232 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: get there. And I'll tell you, you and I we both 233 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: predicted it that we would see the numbers absolutely plummet. 234 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: Although it's a fair point, we said absolutely plummet. I 235 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: don't think I said ninety nine point nine percent. I 236 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: might have thought it'd be ninety percent or ninety five percent, 237 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: but ninety nine point nine is. To be honest, Trump 238 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: might even be surprised. It's that high. It's staggering, and 239 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: and it's an example of a commander in chief who's 240 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: actually following the law. 241 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 7: You know. 242 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: I got to say that ABC interview was really striking 243 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: that there's a great exchange where the ABC reporter comes 244 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: after him and Trump just just body slams him. Here here, 245 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: give a listen. 246 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: Do you think the reputation in the United States has 247 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 6: gone down under your presence? 248 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 7: No, I think it's gone way up. And I think 249 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 7: we're respected country again. We were left at all over 250 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 7: the world. We had a president that couldn't walk up 251 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 7: a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight of stairs, 252 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 7: couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We had a 253 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 7: president that was grossly incompetent. 254 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 8: You knew it. 255 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 7: I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys 256 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 7: didn't want to write it because you're fake news. 257 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 6: All right, thank you. 258 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 7: By the way, ABC is one of the worst. 259 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 9: I have to be honest, Okay, thank you. 260 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that that's just amazing. He's looking at the 261 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: main guy. He's like roasting them to their faces. He's like, 262 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: by the way, ABC, yeah, you're you guys, by the way, 263 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: one of the worst. He's like, thank you, we're going 264 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: to wrap now. 265 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: He's thank you. Think and you actually have to watch 266 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: it watching the and I will say, one of the 267 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: things Trump doesn't get nearly enough credit for it is 268 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: how damn funny he is where he's like, look, it's 269 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: one thing if he could just say, look, Joe Biden 270 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: wasn't competent. 271 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 7: But he's like, he. 272 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Couldn't walk up the stairs, he couldn't walk down the stairs. 273 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: He falled, like you couldn't walk in the room like 274 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: it's just it is funny, but it's true, and he's right. 275 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: He's like, you knew it, I knew it, Everyone knew it, 276 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: and yet you were lying about it, and nobody in 277 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: the media. Have you seen a single maya culpa from 278 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: anyone in the media saying we knew Joe Biden wasn't 279 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: mentally incompetent and we deliberately lied to the American people 280 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: about it. Nobody's done that. 281 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: No, no one has it all. One other thing I 282 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: do have to say about all of this one hundred 283 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: days is the speed at which this administration is working 284 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: and how well this team is working in the White 285 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: House is really impressive. You and I have been over 286 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: there with Doge when we were interviewing Eglon Musk. I've 287 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: been back last week as well to the White House. 288 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: This team around him is just incredible compared to what 289 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: he had in twenty sixteen, and I think that's part 290 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: of the reason why he's getting so much done. Would 291 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: you agree with that. 292 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 7: But fully agree. 293 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: I think the cabinet is much stronger than the twenty 294 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: sixteen or the twenty seventeen cabinet. I think in the 295 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: first term, he made some appointment that frankly did not 296 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: serve him well. He put people in place who disagreed 297 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: with him, who undermined him. And I think this second term, 298 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: I think he learned. I think he learned during the 299 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: four years of his first term as president. I think 300 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: he learned during the four years he was out of office. 301 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: I think he had a lot of time to think 302 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: about if and when he came back, what he would do. 303 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: And I think he put in place change agents. And 304 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's another exchange in that ABC News interview 305 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: that I really like, where ABC News is defending illeal 306 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: immigration and the open borders under the Democrats, and he 307 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: just utterly calls them out here, give and listen to 308 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: that you're talking about. 309 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 7: You know, you're making this person sound This is a 310 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 7: MS thirteen gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots 311 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 7: of skirmishes, beat the hell out of his wife, and 312 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 7: the wife was petrified to even talk about him. Okay, 313 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 7: this is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman from Man. 314 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's a good guy. It's about the 315 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 6: rule of law. The order from the Supreme Court stamp 316 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 6: into our country illegally you could. 317 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I love it. He's not going to back down. 318 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: He's not afraid of the guys in the press at all. 319 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: And the Democrats, you want to talk about stepping into 320 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: their trap. The Democrats have happily embraced we, the Democrat Party, 321 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: are the party of illegal immigrants. We are the party 322 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: of gang members. We are you know are pod two 323 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: days ago if you didn't listen to it. Really is astonishing. 324 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: They're two different Democrat judges in jail right now for 325 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: obstructing justice, for blocking federal law enforcement for arresting illegal immigrants, 326 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: and one of the two at a judge from New Mexico, 327 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: is charged with sheltering a trend de Aragua Venezuelan gang 328 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: member in his home and destroying evidence. It's really shocking. 329 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: So this gang member had a cell phone, and this 330 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: Democrat judge took the cell phone, smashed it with a hammer, 331 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: went and threw the cell phone away in a dumpster, 332 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: all in an effort to cover up the evidence of 333 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: this gang member's criminality. And one of the astonishing things 334 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: that the Department of Justice has told us is that 335 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: cell phone that the Democrat judge destroyed had pictures of 336 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: two people who had been decapitated, two victims presumably of 337 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: gang violence who had their heads cut off, and ben like, like, 338 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: what does it say that today's Democrat party what they're 339 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: about is there for venezuela and gang members who cut 340 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: people's heads off. Literally, I don't know how you could 341 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: be in a more radical position than where they are 342 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: right now as before. 343 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation 344 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: on this topic, you can go back and dow the 345 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: I want to get back to the big story number 347 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: three of the week you may have missed center. I 348 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: want to talk about what we just found out with 349 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: DOGE and and I think it's an important point to 350 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: reset because we saw a lot of oppress about DOAGE 351 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: early on. We've now moved on to other topics, or 352 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: I should say the media has moved on to other topics. 353 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: It does not mean that Elon Musk and the DOGE 354 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: staff have stopped doing their job. In fact, they are 355 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 2: still finding incredible amounts of waste, fraud and abuse. And 356 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: they sat down with Jesse Waters at Fox to kind 357 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: of give an update of like, hey, here we are 358 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: It was also a very cool interview because what we're 359 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: witnessing is Elon Musk showing these do gooders that he 360 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: has brought in they can be making a lot more 361 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: money in the private sector. There are a lot of young, 362 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 2: brilliant minds that are finding all of this information and 363 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: digging and digging in our government, and he's letting them 364 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: tell the stories of what they're finding. I love this 365 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: management style from him. 366 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Well, I got to say, every week they're new bombshells 367 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: that are coming out from doze of just astonishing waste, 368 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: fraud and abuse. And so this latest interview that the 369 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: Elon did with Jesse Waters, he laid out, for example, 370 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: that the Institute of Peace had a one hundred and 371 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars contract with a former member of the Taliban. 372 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: Now now just let that sink in. 373 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 10: For a minute. 374 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty grand to a former member of 375 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: the Taliban, and that is from the quote Institute of Peace. 376 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: Nothing like paying a terrorist if you're the Institute of Peace. 377 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, that same institute a piece deleted 378 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: one terabyte of accounting records when DOGE entered their headquarters. 379 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: So they came in I got to tell you. If 380 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: you're prosecuting criminal conduct at a court of law and 381 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: a defendant destroys evidence, deletes data on their computer, burns papers, 382 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: burns receipts, burns photographs, that can be taken as evidence 383 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: of guilt the fact that you are deleting evidence. But 384 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: here give a listen to the description of what they 385 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: found about from the Institute a piece. 386 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, so it was by far the least peaceful agency 387 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 9: that we've worked with. Ironically, of course, Additionally, we found 388 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 9: that they were spending money on things like private jets, 389 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 9: and they even had a one hundred and thirty thousand 390 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 9: dollars contract with a former member of the Taliban. 391 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 11: This is real. We don't encounter that at most agencies. 392 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 12: What was the money going to the Taliban for? 393 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 11: So it was a contractor. 394 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 9: They received one hundred and thirty thousand dollars for generic services, 395 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 9: And to Elon's point, there was not actually a clear 396 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 9: description of what the contractor services were for. 397 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 11: But was it for opium unclear? Or weapons? Yeah? Or 398 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 11: nothing for a broad or yeah? 399 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 9: And you naturally have to ask the question how did 400 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 9: we get here? Like when the country was founded, there 401 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 9: were only four agencies. Today there are over four hundred, 402 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 9: so there's been a one hundred xc increase in the 403 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 9: number of agencies since the. 404 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 11: Foundering of the nation. 405 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 9: And thanks to President Trump, he's now signed to executive 406 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 9: orders to start to reduce the number of Asians season 407 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 9: the government and the Institute Apiece was one of them, 408 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 9: which is why our team went into try and understand 409 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 9: what was going on, and that's when we found all 410 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 9: the craziness, like the weapons and their armory. We found 411 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 9: the payments to the Taliban. 412 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that the evidence, right. 413 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 9: So just a few hours after we got into their headquarters, 414 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 9: we found that their chief accountant had actually deleted over 415 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 9: a terabyte. 416 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 11: Of accounting records from several leaders. 417 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 9: So you'd have to ask the question, well, why would 418 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 9: somebody do that if the Doch team fortunately was able 419 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 9: to recover that data with the help of a few 420 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 9: great employees at the Institute a Piece. And I think 421 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 9: the most troubling thing was they received fifty five million 422 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 9: dollars a year from Congress, and any money that went unspent, 423 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 9: instead of returning that to Congress, they would sweep it 424 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 9: into a private bank account which had no Congressional oversight. 425 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 9: And that's what they would use to fund things like 426 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 9: events at their headquarters and the private jets. And so 427 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 9: I think it's a great example because most Americans don't 428 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 9: know what's going on at a lot of these smaller agencies, 429 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 9: and this is a I think the most extreme case 430 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 9: of some of the. 431 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 11: Wasteful spend that we're finding. 432 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 12: So the agencies are high money from you, they're sending 433 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 12: into the Taliban. They have loaded weapons in the. 434 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 11: Department buildings at the Institute of Peace. 435 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 12: At the Institute of Peace, that's right, So this is 436 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 12: a cover up. 437 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 13: When you guys roll in this wanted a cover up, 438 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 13: they delete a vast amount of financial information. That's really 439 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 13: a definition of a cover up. 440 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 11: Isn't that illegal to delete evidence? Yes, shred documents? 441 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 8: It is. 442 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 9: It's it's certainly illegal to delete accounting records that the 443 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 9: Congress would certainly want to know where the Congressional appropriated 444 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 9: funds are going from taxpayers. 445 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 12: When you catch them going Hillary style on their computers, 446 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 12: do you refer this to the Department of Justice? 447 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 9: In this case, we did refer the evidence in the 448 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 9: accounting example to the FBI and d OJ. 449 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 11: We're proud to do that. So yes, we did. Instance 450 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 11: has shown. 451 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: I mean, let's just go back to what you said 452 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: center a moment ago and and dive into this a 453 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: little bit more. If this is that type of activity, 454 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: in this type of cover up and referring this to 455 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: the DOJ, what would the next step be on that? 456 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: And then also what can Congress do if anything, knowing 457 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: now what they've just told you. 458 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: Look, I got to say almost every word of that 459 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: is shocking. That they gave one hundred and thirty grand 460 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: to a for a member of the Taliban, that's astonishing. 461 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: That they spent taxpayer money on private jets. That's astonishing. 462 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: That the Institute of Peace had an armory with a 463 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: whole bunch of weapons. Now let me repeat that the 464 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: Institute of Peace apparently felt the need to be packing 465 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: and when does showed up, they started deleting their accounting records, 466 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: which screams guilt. By the way, when when President Trump 467 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: did the interview with ABC News in the Oval, one 468 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: of the things ABC News says as well, there have 469 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: been no referrals to the Apartment of Justice, and President 470 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: Trump quite rightly says, how do you know that, Well, 471 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: this is this is one. It turns out there have 472 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: been multiple referrals to the Apartment of Justice for fraud. 473 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: It's just ABC News doesn't want people to know that. Here, 474 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to another clip. This is 475 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: another clip where the Department of Education had a four 476 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: billion dollar COVID fund that let government employees draw down. 477 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: They used it for things like parties and to rent 478 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: out venues like Caesar's Palace. Give a listen. 479 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a four billion dollar COVID fund in 480 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 8: the Department of Education and there was no receipts required, 481 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 8: so people we just drawed down on it. And when 482 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 8: people looked into it, this wasn't just this was before us. 483 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 8: They found that money was being used to rent out 484 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 8: Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums, et cetera. And 485 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 8: so the one change that Doze made with our education 486 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 8: is we had the simple requirement that if you draw 487 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 8: down money, you must first upload a receipt. That was 488 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 8: the only change that was made. You must upload your receipt, 489 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 8: and upon doing so, nobody drew down any money anymore. 490 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 10: Yes, but we didn't say that we'd checked the receipt. 491 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 10: You could send a fank receipt, you could send a 492 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 10: picture of your dog, anything, anything, anything, And as soon 493 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 10: as we asked for anything at all, that something, the 494 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 10: requests were like, Oh, we don't need it anymore. That's interesting. 495 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 11: They were renting Caesar's palace. 496 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 10: Yes, they're like basically partying on the tax chair. 497 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 2: Of money, basically partying on the taxpayer's money. Okay, it 498 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: sounds criminal. 499 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: Let me just ask, like, like the man on the street, 500 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: did you think the Department of Education was spending your money, 501 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: your taxpayer money to rent out Caesar's palace. That is 502 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: the very definition of waste, fraud and abuse. Four billion 503 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: dollars in a COVID slush fund with zero receipts required. 504 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: Let me just say thank god for President Trump and 505 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Doge uncovering this revealing it because it 506 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: is completely indefensible. And by the way, the Democrats, just 507 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: like they've decided they're all in for illegal immigrants and 508 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: gang members and violent criminals and white theaters, they're also 509 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: all in for this kind of waste, fraud and abuse, 510 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: including renting out Caesar's palace with your tax payer money. 511 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 512 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 513 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: with my podcast, and you can listen to my podcast 514 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 515 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 516 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, 517 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.