1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick Shot, 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and it's time for a Trade Deadline 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: edition of Mix Shots from inside the SWBC podcast studio 7 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: here at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, a 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: tamper free edition of the Trade Tamper Tamper Free Edition 9 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Trading Deadline. As we are now ninety minutes away, nine 10 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: minutes away from the trade deadline. So when we finish, 11 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: it will be thirty minutes till breaking news, right, is 12 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: that what you're saying? That's exactly Yeah, there or forty 13 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: five minutes, I dare say, I dar say, we will 14 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: have nothing to report. There will be nothing to report 15 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: after we go off. That I would uh, I would 16 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: agree with you. Yeah, I think Jerry Jones agreed with 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: So why are your people gonna stick with us for 18 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: forty five minutes? You gotta build it up. We've got 19 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: all we got stuff kind of stuck mixed out rent 20 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: that's right, we forget that we got the rant called 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: the tse oh TV guy, the TV guy. Everybody don't 22 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: think anybody else listens to Jerry Jones. But yeah, okay, 23 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: so we believe it when Jerry says that. Well, like 24 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: I said that, they're not pursuing anything. But if the 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: phone rang there you go answering. Okay, I did say 26 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: that Dak was going to play this weekend. He did. Yeah, 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: he had us all fired though, you know what, You're right, Bill, 28 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe anything else at this organization except here 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: on mix shots. So since you brought up the trade, yeah, 30 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, do you ever remember when 31 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: you were here playing a midseason trade like something that 32 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: just astonished you. No, not necessarily midseason trades, but I'm 33 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: sure we had some. I mean you had things you 34 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: picked up guys. Maybe your last year here, we had 35 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: cut When was your last year here? Eighty nine? Okay, 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: yeah it was there. Not a midseason trade in eighty nine. 37 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking back a rather large midseason trade in eighty 38 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: nine nine mid season Oh well, Herschel, Herschel, yeah, okay, yeah, 39 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: I meant not on the trade deadline, necessarily met everybody 40 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: got somebody, Yeah, I think they got more than somebody 41 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: out of that trade. Well they did, okay, So yeah, 42 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: we sent him away. We sent him away and got 43 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: nine right, one for nine? Is that what it was? 44 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Or eighteen? However many you want to multiplied by the 45 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: draft backs? Well, it was, it was. It was initially 46 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: from the five players, I think it was. It was, 47 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: and including the draft, and then and then we found 48 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: out later that the draft the players were tied to 49 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: the draft picks, and Minnesota made the mistake of thinking 50 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: the Cowboys wanted to get good right away, so we're 51 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: going to give you all these scrap players that we 52 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: don't remember used to make mistakes right time. And so 53 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: and Jimmy was like, no, we wanted to We wanted 54 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: the draft choices. Uh. And you remember the one guy 55 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to come, the running back, Uh, Darren Nelson. Yes, 56 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: he refused to come. And Jimmy goes, okay, that's fine, 57 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: we'll just take his And where did he go? Draft choice? 58 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: He went back to Minnesota never wound up going to 59 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers that year. Yeah, okay, all right, 60 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: can you name who the players the Cowboys got in 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: the herschel Walker trade? D David Howard, I hold Jesse Solomon, 62 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Darren Nelson, And there was a defensive end that was, 63 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: I tell you the story. I forgot his name. I 64 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: want me to tell you the name. Yeah, and then 65 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: you can tell the story. Yeah, Alex Stewart, Alex Stewart 66 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: do not remember him, so he did nothing here, right, 67 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: But Edward or I think he wrote this that Alex 68 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Stewart looked like tiz Ed and played like Jay. And 69 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: a day or so later, we're walking through the locker 70 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, the outer part of the locker room at 71 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: the ranch, and here comes Alex Stuart and he sees 72 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: Ed and he basically confronted him very loudly. But you 73 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: know what, ed was right? Yeah, I mean he was right. 74 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: And sometimes if you tell the truth, it hurts. Yeah, 75 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean you can be angry about it. Maybe ed 76 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: should have said it, but what big boys know. We 77 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: understand that we get into this particular reason and they're 78 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: going to be certain consequences. And when you play like crap, 79 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: you know you're a bad player. Sometimes the church just 80 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: comes out. Because he looked the part as I remember, 81 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: and the fact that we don't remember him. Yeah, I'm 82 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: sure you're already looking up the stats right now, see 83 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: where he ended up? He ended up? What happened to him? 84 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean, because I don't even remember period. If you 85 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: think about it, David Howard was a nice player. Yes 86 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: he was, Jesse, Jesse Solomon. He his mouth shut, but 87 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: he was a nice player. That's why he right right, Jesse. 88 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: We were buddies, man. He would come to my locker 89 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: and we fussed all the time. Yeah, and then and 90 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: then and then I coult made it for till through 91 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: made it through the eighty nine Oh my god, disaster. 92 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: If he asked right and he ended up? Did he 93 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: get he got a ring? He played because he remember 94 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: early in the NFC title game, Um, Kevin Smith got 95 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: hurt the first player, second play, and they put Ike 96 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: in and that's when they threw the deep past to 97 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry Rice. It would have been a touchdown, but 98 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: there was some sort of holding or something nullified. Next play, 99 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Smith was back in the game. Well, you know, 100 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: I you know, I know, I had a very unorthodox 101 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: style that Tom Langer did not appreciate. And I get that, 102 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: but I hold his technique was probably worse than mine. No, no, 103 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: probably it was. He lined up deeper than I did. 104 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: At least I had a backpedal. I hoped would back 105 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: up ten yards. He would line up at ten yards 106 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: and wouldn't move. He let him come him, come to 107 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: him at ten yards. I mean, you just don't do that. 108 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: I mean, even the dbs this weekend, we're closer than that. 109 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: So you were already gone. I think I've told this 110 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: story before. Ninety or ninety one Cowboys line didn't have 111 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: anything of a pass rush. And remember how good the 112 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: Eagles were at that time with that front four. And 113 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: so we're in the lock we're in the locker room 114 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: one day and they're talking about the We were talking 115 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: about just kind of shooting the bull with him, and 116 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: there was a couple other guys about their Eagles pass 117 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: rush and he goes, yeah, he goes, let me show 118 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: you how their DB's play. So he gets down in 119 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: his stance, got his hands on his knees, and he 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: starts backpedaling and he goes one, two, three, Okay, man, 121 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm good because the play would have been over right. 122 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: He only had to cover for three seconds Chicago exactly. 123 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: And it was the funniest thing. Yeah, And so you know, 124 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: we used to get so jealous with that. Of course, 125 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: we had doomsday at the time in the in the 126 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: eighties doomsday too, I guess you might call it. But 127 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: there were times when you know, the flex defense holds 128 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: your d line back. Yeah, And there were times with 129 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: especially with a play action. We was sitting ducks back then, 130 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and we would get so jealous when we would see 131 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: how Mike Downs was forced because he was part of 132 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: that run defense. The free safety is part of the 133 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: run defense. That's the kind of responsibility Mike had. He 134 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: had to be close to the line of scrimmage on 135 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: a lineman he's no more than ten yards. Then you 136 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: look at the other dbs and other safeties. We can't 137 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: even see them in those film they're they're out of 138 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: the pit, ten people on the field because the safety 139 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: is twenty yards back. And Mike Downs used to hate 140 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: that because he did not have that lux. Now, Jesse 141 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: Solomon was good, yes he was. And he cost me. 142 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: He was fast. He cost me my mustache, by the way. 143 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety right, he was holding out. Yeah, And 144 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: we were in San Diego for a week and I 145 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: had been corresponding to him back and forth, checking the comming. 146 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: You're not coming. So I called him one day and 147 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: he told me. He goes, yeah, he goes, I bought 148 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: my my plane ticket, I'm coming tomorrow. Well, I get 149 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: in a argument about his status with Mike Fisher and 150 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: and so I think I've got inside information, right, and 151 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, i'll bet you he's coming. Oh he's not. 152 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: And he goes, what do you want to bet? I said, 153 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: I'll bet my mustache. Right. Well, Jesse changed his mind 154 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: and he didn't come. He had the ticket and he 155 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: didn't show. I think that he was aware of that. Yeah, 156 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: we had a bet. I'll screw this guy. Then when 157 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: he showed up we were back I think he didn't 158 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: show up until training camp was over. When we were 159 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: back here, and he showed up the first day, and 160 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: I think we were interviewing Jerry or interviewing him, and 161 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: the two came together and Jerry was gonna, like, you know, 162 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: bury the hatchet and say okay, welcome back. And he 163 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: shook his hand and said good to be here with you, boss, 164 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: And he called him boss like three times. And I 165 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: was like, oh boy, I said, this isn't gonna last, okay, 166 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: just real quick. And David Howard ended up getting trade 167 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: with Lockhart right to the New England Patriots. All right, 168 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: just real quick, I'll run through the draft, I mean 169 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the trade. Yeah, okay, yeah, those those players, and here 170 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: the draft picks. Okay, these are the unconditional picks they got. 171 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: The Cowboys got Minnesota's first round pick in ninety and 172 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: second round pick in ninety and their sixth round pick 173 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: in ninety so three draft picks that were unconditional. All right. 174 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: The Cowboys also got Minnesota's first round pick in ninety 175 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: one conditional on cutting Solomon, Minnesota's second round pick in 176 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: ninety one, conditional on cutting Howard, Minnesota's first round pick 177 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: in ninety two, conditional and cutting Holt, and Minnesota's second 178 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: round pick in ninety two, conditioned met by rating away Nelson, 179 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: and Minnesota's third round pick in ninety two conditional one 180 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: cutting Stewart. It's amazing that they still have a team 181 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: to this day. And who was the GM Who's man, 182 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: Mike Lynn? Yeah, well he still has a job. Oh no, 183 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: he's so. When it was announced, it was announced as 184 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: those those five players, and one of them turned out 185 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: not showing up here, and three picks the first and second, 186 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: and then the sixth round pick the next year. I'm 187 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: not even for sure those picks were announced, okay, but 188 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: but those were the thre those were the end condition, 189 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: yeah right, And so with those picks, so, and I 190 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: don't know what the timeline was on when those players 191 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: had to be cut by in order for the pick 192 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: to take priority over the player. I think they had 193 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: to if they were on But whatever the deadline was, 194 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy was cutting that player to get that pick. And 195 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: they actually basically actually cut them all and then just 196 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: brought him back like because they cleared waivers. Because I 197 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: remember what happened. So this happened. It might have been well, 198 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, say it was a Tuesday, right, Uh. 199 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: And I remember Wednesday when Herschel was leaving. He walked 200 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: out the back to the player's parking lot at the ranch, 201 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: and uh, everybody started running after him, right to try 202 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: to catch up with him, right, And I started running 203 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: and I'm going, you know what, I am too old 204 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: to be running after a damn player. I am I'll 205 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: find out what he said. I am not doing chasing 206 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: him down like that. Right. So Friday, and I think 207 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: it was Channel twenty one, they wanted to do a 208 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: writer's roundtable about the trade, and so we all get 209 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: on there and we just panned the thing, just just 210 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: just brutalized. Yeah, this is the best, let's say, only 211 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: asset you had, right, everybody else is getting old and 212 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: what do you We love to have a copy of that. 213 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: And we all thought, we all thought they were getting 214 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: these players, not the draft picks. That part hadn't come out. Yeah, right. 215 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: So the next day, Norm Hitchkis reports that part of 216 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: the trade was the Cowboys are going to send Steve 217 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: Walsh to Minnesota at the end of the year. And 218 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: I had found out on Friday that that was absolutely inaccurate. 219 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: That wasn't that wasn't right. Right. Well, I get a 220 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: call from the paper and they go, well, we need 221 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: a comment from Jerry. I said, well, we don't need 222 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: a comment from Jerry. I'm telling you I've found out 223 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: and we've already written it that that's not part of 224 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: the trade. Okay, No, we still need something from Jerry. 225 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: So I get Jerry on the phone, right, tell him 226 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: what Indeed, Well, he had seen the show Friday night 227 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: and he let me have it like nobody else has, right, 228 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: because because of how we criticized the trade. Probably Oh yeah, 229 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: we were all over right, and I mean, he just 230 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: went on and on. He was he was he was 231 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: especially hurt by you because you're his child. No, no, 232 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: I was not his child, not even close, all right, 233 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: And you well, it was a long it was decade, 234 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: Garrett that I couldn't. I never worked my way back here. 235 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: And uh and so he just went on its rant 236 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: and he used every word, you know, not in the 237 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: King's English, right, because everybody said, Cherry ever chew you out? 238 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: And I go, oh yeah. And so he got to 239 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: the end and I said, so, I said, so, do 240 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: you want to comment, write anything you want? I think 241 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: he Al would have gave you quotes, yall. You just yeah, 242 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: you were right. Yeah. So that was that was the 243 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: That's the other thing I remember of that trade. So, yeah, 244 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: that wasn't that. But how but before that, before Jerry 245 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: got here, were there mid season trades that you remember. 246 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: I remember just the acquisition of hershe Walker. But that 247 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: was a trade that just ended up, that happened. It 248 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: was in trading camp though, yeah, and you know that 249 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: was it was huge. That was the only thing close 250 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: to it because at that time you're bringing in Hershel Walker. 251 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: You have Tony Dorssett, right, So to us, yeah, that 252 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: was a big deal, and that at that time they 253 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: weren't really doing They weren't really trading anybody. They would 254 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: just cut them. So they traded before the season started. 255 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Um so this was before you were there when two 256 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: tall went to go box, Yes, and they were he 257 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: seventy nine was the season he boxed. And so he 258 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: came back back, but they had already traded for um, oh, 259 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: the defensive and from the coach, the big guy, Bubba Smith. No, 260 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: John Dutton very good, Yeah, John Dutton right, and uh, 261 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: and so that was a trade I remember. But other 262 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: than that, it was just kind of getting rid of guys, 263 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: not really trading guys. Yeah, that's right. That were the 264 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: trade deadline. Now, that was not that. It was all 265 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: about if they didn't want you, something happened, they would 266 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: just cut you. And bringing in Herschel was the exception 267 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: because we really didn't just bring in anybody like that. 268 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: Every right, and especially you bring in the guy to 269 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: replace Tony Dorsett, future Hall of Fame. But this guy's 270 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: about to lead you his his he I think he 271 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: had passed ten thousand in eighty five and by the 272 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: time we got to eighty seven, you know, I mean, 273 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: he's working on being one of the leading rushers in history. 274 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: So for that to happen, I just thought that, we 275 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: know what, they a bunch of crap. The acquisition as 276 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: part of that. When the USFL folded. Uh, that got 277 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: overshadowed was Nate because they picked up Nate off of 278 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: US the US and he for some reason, I think 279 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: the Washington at the time Reskins. Uh what did they 280 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: have to do with that? No, they had drafted. They 281 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: had signed Nate as an undrafted fres agent as a 282 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: rookie and eighty three. Yes, so he and Babe Laffenberg 283 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: were there, and then he got cut and then he 284 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: ended up in the USFL for what a year or two. 285 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: I just remember coming into the locker room. I believe 286 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: we went thousand oaks. Yes you were, and uh, I 287 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: remember seeing this big old brother like who hacks, you know, like, 288 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: and he looks so humble, you know, Nate, he looks 289 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: humble to he gets out that star whipping right. Yeah. 290 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: And so he just sitting there just looking very unassuming, 291 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: and I just kind of walked back by and like, uh, man, 292 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: who is this guy? You know, I really just didn't 293 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: know what to expect. And then if you remember, he 294 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: got nicknamed the kitchen because he was because he was 295 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: bigger than the Free and I must admit it wasn't 296 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: impressive because he was that big. Yeah, so you're thinking 297 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: he can't be any good a matter of fact, I 298 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: mean you're just thinking that, right, That's just first impression 299 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about. We were talking about how players 300 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: can have an effect on the coaching staff, like tell them, hey, 301 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: this guy can do this, or this guy can do that. 302 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: He goes, I might not have been here today had 303 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: it not been for Randy White and John Dutton and 304 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: who else? He pointed out somebody else on the defensive line. 305 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: He said they actually went to coach Landry and said, hey, 306 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: this guy's got something. Yeah. He said, they saved me 307 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: because he said I was so big and fat. He 308 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: goes to you. They saw the potential. Yeah, because at 309 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: that time, remember Tom didn't want anybody on the offensive 310 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: line more than two eighty. Man, if they were two eighty, 311 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: they were you. And this guy comes in at three forty. Yeah, 312 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I meant Tom rafted the Senate. I think he was 313 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: around two hundred and sixty pounds. Yeah, and little did 314 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: we know thirty two years ago that on trade deadline day, 315 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: which is also election, that herschel Walker would be running 316 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: for United Senate one day. That's pretty gard. That's a 317 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: huge circle, is a necessary circle. That is very good, William, 318 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: I gotta admit because that's that's just as ridiculous as 319 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: all of this crap. They're talking and Bill what ticket 320 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: is he running on? The Trump ticket? Everyone can figure 321 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, the guy he played for, he's probably 322 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: before he became a Dallas. Before he became a Dallas 323 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: had a personal service. So yeah, you get out there 324 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: for Congress. Okay, that's a trip down memory lane. Now 325 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: we're get my god damn done. Okay, coming up next, Honey, 326 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: big news, scary are you? Okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. 327 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm Jennie Flash. 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Whoever writes these it's players as well. 371 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they give us all the slots. 372 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: I've had mine get autographs from Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and 373 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Everson Walls. No, I'd love to go out there again, 374 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: but no, I'm just shot they didn't mentioned players because 375 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: definitely players to sign all the best. Well, I guess 376 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: it depends what they're going out there to get autographs. Okay, 377 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: where are we going? What do you think? We got 378 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: one trade that came down today that of a notable player, 379 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: Melvin ingram Is traded from Pittsburgh to Kansas City for 380 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: a sixth round draft. And I looked at his stats 381 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: and he was doing up resolutely nothing for the Steelers. 382 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: And so we saw the Chiefs play last night against 383 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: the Giants, so he could they could use all the 384 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: help they there? Yeah, because the Giants almost could have 385 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: should have won that game. I was picking the Giants 386 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: to win the game, win this game. Uh, if they 387 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: have got out of their own way. We got some 388 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: breaking news here after what that's two weeks? He played 389 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: here a month and he played two games. Didn't play 390 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: this last Thursday night he was inactive and my stat 391 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: sheet says in two games twenty seven snaps and one tackle. 392 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have a need for a linebacker right now. 393 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: What's the status on jebral Cox. He is out. He 394 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: tore his ACL and we'll have surgery. Yeah, oh man, Yeah, 395 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: so the Cowboys have a need for a lot. Francis 396 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: will take his place on the fifty three to come back. 397 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: And Ill I trolled on Twitter, get right, yeah, yeah, 398 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: we want that guy for It was I'd retweeted Chefter 399 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: or whoever about Jalen being released and I said, Cowboys 400 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: need a linebacker or whatever I mean. But when you 401 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: see something like that, I guess it's justification for making 402 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: the move. Right. Initially, it was, you know, surprise to 403 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: some people, not to us in this room, but also 404 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: the disappointment from Van Derress and thinks that nature. I 405 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: get it, man, that's your boy. You know your teammates 406 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: got But man, if he ain't bawling, he ain't bawling, 407 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: And this to you, you hate to see him go, 408 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: but you gotta know you are a better defense without 409 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: him in the lineup. Yes, And and I don't know 410 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: if they were playing him to possibly trade him, uh 411 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: for somebody to see, Oh look what he's doing, because 412 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: he did nothing to qualify the snaps he was getting, 413 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: and he was taking snaps from other people. And as 414 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 1: a as a you know, as a human being, you know, 415 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: we hate to see people have to uproot their lives 416 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: and yeah, move here and move there and things of 417 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: that nature. But you know, as much as we make 418 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: fun of it, it's just a part of the game. 419 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't make it any easier for the player to 420 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: have to move. And you know, I was blessed when 421 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I when I left, I went to New York. But 422 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, my my my wife is from here. We 423 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: grew up together, so it's safer for them to stay home. 424 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: I don't have to take them with me everywhere I go. 425 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: That's the blessing that I had that stuff. They didn't 426 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: have to get out of school and things that nature. 427 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: Everyone's different. But at the same time, it's a business. 428 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: Well you know, that's so this this is for all 429 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: the people that wanted to make a deal about it. 430 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: Oh you're messing up the team chemistry. Oh what are 431 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: you gonna do in the locker room? You know, Well, 432 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: how are these players? You know? And my response was 433 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: they got to worry about number one. Yes, they ain't 434 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 1: worried about number two, and they also got to know 435 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: that he wasn't making Yes, they knew. That's it. The 436 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: players in the locker room goes back to what I said. 437 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: Players know the thing about Nate, right, and and they 438 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: know so film don't lie. Yeah, certainly doesn't a lie. Well, 439 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: I learned that in Yeah, I know. I learned that 440 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: with Tom Landry Boy, who were running that joker back 441 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: and forth on your man, like this is your thumb stuck, 442 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: Why don't you move on with the play. No, he's 443 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: got to make a point and that point will be 444 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: made and everyone in there will know it. Yeah, and 445 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: that's the thing. He sends a message through film black 446 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: and white back then it was back then. So yeah, no, no, 447 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 1: Jalen and you know, Jerry mentioned, Mike mentioned, Stephen mentioned that, 448 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, they weren't going to be active in the 449 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: trade market unless somebody called, and as Jerry and Jerry said, 450 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: every time you call, the price goes up. I remember 451 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: I learned that from Bob Accles because they were in 452 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: a dispute with somebody. Wow Bob remember, yes, I do. 453 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: He was the personnel director kind of managing the cap 454 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: and all that, and they were in a dispute with somebody, 455 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: and I said, well, have you talked to him or 456 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: his agent? He goes, no, I go, well why not? 457 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: He goes, because every time I pick up the phone, 458 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm spending money like it's going to get more expensive. Right, 459 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: that is very good. And so like Jerry said, if 460 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: they're calling you, oh okay, we can listen. But if 461 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm calling for something, he goes, Now it's getting expensive. 462 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: So you don't want to be that guy. And and 463 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know that they have a 464 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: serious need to trade something. You know, Bill talked about 465 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback thing, and probably before Sunday, but got solidified, 466 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: say before the second half, yeah, right half time. You're 467 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: probably thinking, oh see before the last two minutes of 468 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah yeah, I mean think about it. No, 469 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: you're probably right. The Cowboys go three and out. Okay 470 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: on that last possession, Yeah, okay, what are we talking about? 471 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: After the game and they fall sixteen thirteen in Minnesota? 472 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: Bat phone the bat phone sitting back, and you're looking 473 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: for a veteran quarterback, right, So, and he didn't play 474 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: poorly up until then, but they said halftime the number 475 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: one scoring offense in the league had three points and 476 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense wasn't all that they weren't and we found 477 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: that out as the game progressed. So other than the 478 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: quarterback position, you know, everybody wants to know, well, what 479 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: other position do you need? And I'm going, well, I 480 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: need a defense of it. Oh, but Marcus Lawrence is 481 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: coming back. I could use another defense tackle. Ok, wait, 482 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: Gallimore's coming back. Right um wide receiver. You got Gallop 483 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: coming back, and god forbid, you don't trade positions of 484 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: strength to get a dark draft choice because the guy's 485 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: contracts next year. This team's six and one. You sense 486 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: something special just might be happening here. Why would you 487 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: do anything to diminish your roster for the future. There 488 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: came off of probably the most, like you say, special, 489 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: This was the most special game this year, right, it had. 490 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: It had its own uniqueness over the as we talked 491 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: about the Patriots game. Patriots game was amazing, but this 492 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: one was just a specially in its own right because 493 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: of the backup situation, because of how we could have 494 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: just gone in there, and also the fact that it 495 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: caused us not to make another move on this team 496 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: that we did not need to make, right absolutely, So 497 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: why would you trade away anything. Somebody's like, well, Tennessee 498 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: needs a running back that you might get a second 499 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: for Tony Pollard. Okay, fine, and Emmett Zekiel gets hurt, 500 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: right and then what Clement? Seriously, so you would need 501 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: a running back? So no, why would you do that? 502 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: You you're you're in the catbird seat right now. We 503 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: went from being the team that had the worst luck 504 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: ever to where everyone thinks that we've got this luxury 505 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: to sit dak until the playoffs start. Yeah, you know 506 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. We went from that team, we were 507 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: the worst team with the worst stuff was happening to it. 508 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: I see, it happened to every other team. Now you 509 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: saw what happened with Casey last night. I like that 510 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: looked like the Cowboys last year or two years of 511 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: the injury, not just the juries, but the goofy play. Yes, 512 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to throw the ball to number one. 513 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Number nineteen thinks it's going to him. He reaches up 514 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: and it deflects my home's pass that was going to 515 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: number one and it ended up in an interception. That's 516 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: the goofiness that we were looking at the last think 517 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: you think to catch that Cooper made on that last drive. 518 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: It's a whole combat. It bounces off, the bounces off, 519 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: a hand comes in and it's a big reception. That 520 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: would not have happened last night before. Yeah, Yeah, or 521 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: the last twenty four years before that. Yeah, because this 522 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: is a special year. Um, all right. The best news 523 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: though to come out of Mike McCarthy's press conference yesterday 524 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: that Dak's ready. Dak is going to be a full 525 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: go when they had their first full practice of the 526 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: week on Thursday. Well, that's the if he gets the 527 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: padded right, right, That's what I mean. Yeah, Because they'll 528 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: practice all goes well on Wednesday and he'll be a 529 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: full It's expected that he'll be a full go on Thursday. 530 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: And I think everybody needs to understand that what he 531 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: did before the game on Sunday was what he had 532 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: been doing all week. It wasn't It wasn't like all 533 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden they said, oh no, everyone thinking that 534 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: this was a workout. Yeah, it was his rehabs. He 535 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: would have done that even if they didn't think he 536 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: was going to play right, And that's probably why they 537 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: brought him to the game in the first place. So 538 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: he could work out with brit before the game and 539 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: also too, and that's what he's also the fooler. Yeah, well, 540 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure. And Jerry talked about that too, by the way, 541 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: about the importance of not giving somebody. He said, unless 542 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: they've got a camera up there watching your practice, you know, 543 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: you don't need to give them any And I'm thinking, yeah, 544 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: you're the one that would spill the beans. He's just 545 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: spilling it now, be quiet. Yeah, so he goes, yeah, 546 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: we don't need to give them any competitive advantage. Right, 547 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: So that was pretty funny, but it sounds like he's 548 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: he is ready to go. So really the only thing 549 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: that probably we need to discuss is the left tackle position. Okay, 550 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: so I want to do that. We'll do that when 551 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: we come back. How about that from me? Shots in 552 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: just a moment. At Smoothie King, we are blending goodness 553 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: to fuel your greatness. Every blend is crafted to help 554 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: you achieve your health and fitness goals. Sweetie Keene uses 555 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: only whole fruits and organic veggies. 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When you sign up 591 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: to receive text messages from the team, text Cowboy Ways 592 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: two NFL d AL that's six three five three two 593 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: five to receive ten percent off your next pro Shop order. 594 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: Message frequency may vary, messages and data rates mail five. 595 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: You gotta do that point real fast. Yeah, we'll work 596 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, we got that's where Douglas Barriclow comes in. 597 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: That's right. Speeds up your right, right, make it sound right, 598 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: that's right, all right. I'm going to continue to check 599 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: the trade deadline Twitter as we go along. Here. Let's 600 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: something you want to talk to Randy Gregory. Yes, let's 601 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: do that. Randy Gregory. Last night there got his fifth 602 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: sack of the season. I predicted he would get ten, 603 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: So he's halfway there in seven games. He's got a chance. 604 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: He was on Cowboys Hour last night with Bradsham and 605 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: Shannon Gross and start talking to him about his maturity 606 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: where he is not only on the team but in life, 607 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: and talked about him having more of a leadership role, 608 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: and Randy said it kind of came naturally. It wasn't forced. 609 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 1: But here's what he had to say about him becoming 610 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: a leader on this team. Naturally happened. I think that's 611 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: the best way. I know. I was kind of put 612 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: in a leadership counsel and things like that, but uh, 613 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: you know, the best thing for me is is kind 614 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: of let me leave my own way and naturally grow 615 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: into that that that spot, that role, And I mean 616 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about coach McCarthy. You know, Rob 617 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: Davis a d DQ everyone, Um so are his coaches 618 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: go and in front office believing in me to to 619 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: be that type of leader. And I'm still learning every day. 620 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: I have to check myself, you know, sometimes when I 621 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: want to take the shortcut, and I have to realize 622 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that are looking at me. 623 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: If they see me that shortcut, maybe they take it too. 624 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: And that's not championship football. So I'm growing into that 625 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: role still. There's a lot of guys that are also 626 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: and um, it's only going to make us better. I 627 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: really feel like it's it's helping me up my game 628 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: on the field. So Randy Gregory and if anybody gets 629 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: a chance, um you can go to Dallas Cowboys dot 630 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: com and call up the Cowboys Hour and listen to 631 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: his interview. He was really good, really good about talking 632 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: about the team, the defense, his life being in an order, 633 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: not just and he said, and he said, I finally 634 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: figured out my personal life was tied to my professional life. 635 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: As my personal life got in order, my professional life 636 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: got in order. And as you guys can see, he's 637 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: playing awfully awfully well right now. And boy, if he 638 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: can hold down to fort till DeMarcus Lawrence gets back 639 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: and you get both of those guys on the field 640 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: at the same time exactly. And and the neat thing 641 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: that I don't know if anybody noticed this, but they've 642 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: been doing it the last couple of days games m 643 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: when they've gone into times when it's just an absolute 644 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: definite passing situation and they know that he's been getting 645 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: chipped on the edge, they've moved him to a stand 646 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: up basically in the middle and letting him hit the 647 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: gaps he and Parsons and they will also stunt him 648 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: into the gap right there, so they're not going to 649 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: allow him just to keep getting chipped on the outside. 650 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: You know, I guess that's a compliment, but you know, 651 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like a compliment when you're getting hit. 652 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: He's so fast off the line. Um. When they saw 653 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: the sack he had on Cousins way, he actually stripped 654 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: the ball and Cousins fell down on top of it. 655 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: Came off so fast and he actually passed the quarterback 656 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: and that to come back. That's just so much speed. 657 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: You know. What's one of the beautiful things about that. 658 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: That allows the Cowboys to do that too, is Parson 659 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: speed at linebacker, because whether whether it's stunning Gregory into 660 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: the middle or lining him up as a stand up 661 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: rusher from there, you could also stand up Parsons. And 662 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: then Parsons is fast enough to get to the outside 663 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: in case they were able to break out out of 664 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: the pocket right and he run down somebody exactly. The 665 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: center can only help one of the one side right. 666 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: He can't get both right and so so basically Parsons 667 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: can cover the edge while Gregory goes up the middle. 668 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: So Gregory h after he makes the sack that he 669 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: keeps going outside outside, outside, then he gets a couple 670 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: of penalties and which we're bs, and so he's upset. 671 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: The first thing he does, he stunts inside on his own. Right. 672 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: He had to know what's coming because he ran right 673 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: into Cooks. Uh yeah, and and and and guess who 674 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 1: was there when Cooks came. I mean, r Randy almost 675 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: took the hand off. He almost so fast, man so fast. 676 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: But you know, as he talked about it, really the 677 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: best thing about this interview is it's the kind of 678 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: what we talked about last week. How important this is 679 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: for him. We talked about DAK and coming back from 680 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: and you know how monumentous that was for him just 681 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: as a person to be able to come back and 682 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: be successful after something so devastating. Well, Grandy Gregory has 683 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: had a couple of years where he's had to deal 684 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: with not a physical injury, but this is all his making, 685 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: and it's all about his mental making and his mental health, 686 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: and for him to be able to come on the 687 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: other side of that is one thing to play as 688 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: well as he's playing is another thing to be considered 689 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: a leader. Let's just kind of back up a little bit, right, 690 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: Let's let him go at his own pace. Okay, let's 691 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: let them lead by his play. He says the right things. 692 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: You know, he sounds very good when he says. You 693 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: can tell the guy's you know, studying. Yeah, he's not 694 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: some dummy sitting back there. This guy's contemplative about so 695 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: many things in life and he's had that time to 696 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: think about that. So to me, let's just do let's 697 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: just take some baby steps here, Yes, let him just 698 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: be a leader by his play exactly. Just back up 699 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: a little bit and not put too much pressure on 700 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: because this is what's more important right now than physical 701 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: one other thing he said that, and I hadn't heard 702 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: this before. He said, his mom and dad moved to 703 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: Texas to be around him nice, to kind of help out. 704 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: And I remember meeting his dad when he was a 705 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: rookie maybe or maybe the next year at a preseason game, 706 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: and his dad military guy too. Yeah, So he came 707 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: up to me, introduced himself, and he said, I just 708 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: want you to know that, you know, my son's not 709 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 1: a bad guy and he's not a dummy. And he goes, 710 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: I know he's got his problems and we're trying to 711 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: work through him. And you know, it took him a 712 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: couple of years to understand his personal life and who 713 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: he hung around with was affecting his professional life. And 714 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: he mentioned his girlfriend how she's, you know, his rock 715 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: now and helps out, keeps him kind of in line 716 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: when he's and then he said something about it at 717 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: home and he said something aboudy, Yeah, I've learned to listen, 718 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: and Brad goes, yeah, that's a good thing for your marriage. 719 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: Just like it was. It was pretty funny, but it's 720 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: a good It's a really good interview. Um, and I 721 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: think we all know how important. It is in any 722 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: profession when you have loved ones to support you and 723 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: and all of that, that's that's major. Yeah, you know, 724 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: you just you just can't replace that with anything superficial, 725 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, because that support you have, that love you 726 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: have in your family, it is real and sometimes you 727 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: don't want to hear real, you know, but you need 728 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: it and that's that's what they're there for. I was 729 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: blessed with I'm sure you guys as well. So you 730 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: want to move on to left tackle left tackle? Yeah, 731 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: And I didn't like that what came out of Jerry 732 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: during the interview this morning on one h five three 733 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: the Fan when he was talking about Lale Collins and 734 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: he kept mentioning, yeah, and there's a spur and he 735 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: kept saying spur. Well, it sounds like Lale collins ankle 736 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: sprain is not really a sprain. He's got a bone 737 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: spur in there that's been given him problems and normally, 738 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, if he can get through this, that's something 739 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: that normally in the offseason you take care of the surgery, 740 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: you go in there and shave off the spur or 741 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: whatever you do. So, um, you know they're gonna see 742 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 1: now Kellen Moore said yesterday about left tackle. If Tyrn 743 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 1: can't play, he said, the game plan might dictate who 744 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 1: ends up playing there. So to me, to me, the 745 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: only two, the only two real alternatives they have is 746 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: to put Lale Collins at left tackle, or you move 747 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: Terrence Steel the left tackle and Colins plays right tackle. 748 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: To me, now, they got through the game with the 749 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: Ski in there at left tackle, struggling a lot, and 750 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: even when struggling and strangling, yes, he's strangling. Got gotta, Yes, 751 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know where that comes from. So which do 752 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: you do? And you gotta and you do it starting tomorrow? Yes, 753 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: because McCarthy was asked how well did Niseki play and 754 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: he said he did better against the run, he struggled 755 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: in past protection. To me, past protection, that that's an 756 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: optimum when you got exactly what I tell me. Steele 757 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: plays left tackle, Collins plays right tackle. And the reasoning 758 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: behind that would be when the Cowboys the last half 759 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: of training camp, maybe more, when they were practicing the 760 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: second offensive line, Steele had art it off at right tackle. 761 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: He ended up at left tackle, and the Seci ended 762 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: up at right tackle. So to me, that was telling 763 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: me they were interviewing Steele to be the backup swing tackle. 764 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: It's like they knew he can play right, now can 765 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: you handle left. I don't know what kind of grade 766 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: he got out there, but that's the way they finished. 767 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 1: So Steele has played left tackle. They both played left tackle, 768 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: but in the NFL. In the NFL, Steele has played 769 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: left tackle right and and Leale hadn't played left tackles 770 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: since LSU and we we aren't sure in Collins is 771 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: coming off hip surgery last year, and we say it 772 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: hasn't played since one game since twenty nineteen. So I 773 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: would put him at the most comfortable place that he 774 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: would be um and since Steele has played in this 775 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: season in training camp at left tackle, you play and 776 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: you're not really switching two positions there, right, you're switching one. 777 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: You're switching Steel to left tackle. Collins is playing going 778 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: back where he started off right, so it's not like 779 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: you're changing two things, right, and he's played next to 780 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 1: Martin before, that's no big deal on the right side. 781 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: So if they think Steel can handle the left side 782 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: in a game. But again credit to this coaching staff, 783 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: they've compensated for lack of experience. Yes, lack of talent 784 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: even right, they didn't do like they did to poor 785 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: Chaz Green and whoever else they tried out there. And 786 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: let me let me qualify what I just said. That 787 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: comes from someone who has not seen them in practice 788 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: or this regular season. Just like when I'm talking about, Okay, 789 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: they got to get an experienced quarterback in here. Well, 790 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Cooper Rush in practice to know. Yeah, 791 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: and so what Cooper Rush did on Sunday Night shows you. Yeah, 792 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: these coaches do know what they're doing. They see things 793 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: in practice that you know, they the media may not 794 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: see exactly. I may not even know what Kellen Moore 795 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: talked about the game plan and he said, you know, 796 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 1: we didn't radically change it because I've seen what Cooper 797 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: Rush could do in practice. I've seen, uh, you know, 798 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: his composure, his poise, his times when I wish they 799 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: would have changed it. Yeah, because I'm like his dad, 800 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: we need to run the ball now. Yeah, I'm still 801 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: with dad. So first and goal at the four, you 802 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: want run the ball except for Cooper, except for Cooper 803 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: and CD right, see he wanted that that play. And 804 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: we're out of time on this edition already. But there 805 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: was another trade that happened since we last were on 806 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: the air. That affects Sunday's game. Okay, all right von Miller, Yes, oh, 807 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: because Denver m so that was huge. I haven't seen 808 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: Denver play a lot. He's been hurt though, hasn't he 809 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: He came back. He came back one game and vowed 810 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: to play up to his past abilities, and he ended 811 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: up getting injured in that game. I believe that was 812 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: a Monday night or Sunday night game. So yeah, that 813 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: was recent. That was the last couple right. Here's the 814 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: report that's out right now on it. A source with 815 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: direct knowledge of the situation tells Pro Football Network that 816 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: Von Miller became upset when teammates declined to kick in 817 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: for his annual Halloween party, a massive affair with a 818 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: six figure price tag. That is that I do know 819 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: of because I keyed to lead, you know, used to 820 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: be in high school and he's gone to those parties. Yes, 821 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: that Miller's request for financial help came as a surprise 822 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: to his teammates. They had assumed they were invited guests 823 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: to the party, not co host Miller. Anyway, it's out there, 824 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: but yes, he does have sources say from but but 825 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: they didn't post haven't commented on his play, right, you 826 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: know everybody is making a big deal out of all 827 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: the Rams. Now they're gonna be unbeatable. Well, you're not 828 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: getting von Miller from MVP seasons right, same same thing, 829 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, same thing with the contracts coming up. The 830 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: linebacker from Pittsburgh that got traded Kansas, he does have 831 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: four and a half sacks this season, okay, and they's 832 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: played in one, two, three, four and just got him 833 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: listed here five six, seven games, so he's played all Okay, 834 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: I only had thirty three snaps. I thought he only 835 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: had got injured in the game he got he had 836 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: to come out of a game. Okay, Cleveland, he had 837 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: thirty three snaps. That was their last game, and um 838 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,399 Speaker 1: he actually was last week's game and prior to that, 839 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: he had maxed out at fifty eight snaps two weeks 840 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: before that against Pittsburgh. So okay, all right, well that 841 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: was probably the game he came out. Maybe he can't 842 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: help out, but Pittsburgh traded But it's not our problem 843 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: now now it's Mike McCarthy said, if you fully fully 844 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: approve that trade, that was a good timing one less 845 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: headache to deal with. All Right, That does it for 846 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: this edition of Mixed Shots. When we come back on Wednesday, 847 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk about all the deals the Cowboys made by 848 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: three o'clock to Cowboys. This has been a production of 849 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.