WEBVTT - Richard Nixon's Alien Adventure

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<v Speaker 1>On November seventh, nineteen seventy two, America went to the polls,

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<v Speaker 1>and the nation nearly unanimously voted to re elect President

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Nixon. Of the five hundred and thirty eight electoral votes,

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon won five hundred and twenty that's ninety six point

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the electoral college vote. The only two

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<v Speaker 1>electoral College votes he lost were Massachusetts and the District

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<v Speaker 1>of Columbia.

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<v Speaker 2>Nixon took the whole map.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the single greatest electoral victories in US history.

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<v Speaker 1>His reelection was more than a mandate. It was self

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<v Speaker 1>evident that Richard Nixon was the unchallenged leader of.

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<v Speaker 2>The free world. No one was more powerful than Richard Nixon.

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<v Speaker 1>And then just a few months later, on February nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three, Nixon had the day off. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Washington's birthday, a federal holiday, so the president had some

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<v Speaker 1>time for himself. That Monday, he was in Florida, where

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<v Speaker 1>he spent the day playing eighteen holes at a celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>golf tournament. According to his official presidential calendar, Nixon hopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Into a chopper and flew to the exclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>Country club of Miamia there in the early afternoon, the

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<v Speaker 1>President enjoyed the links with David Eisenhower, the son of

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<v Speaker 1>former President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who also happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon's son in law married to his daughter Julie. The

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<v Speaker 1>other person golfing with Nixon that fateful day was his

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<v Speaker 1>good friend and financial donor of the famous funny man

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Gleeson. Perhaps drunk on his new power, perhaps just

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<v Speaker 1>feeling himself because he'd ended the war in Vietnam, or

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps it was just that sort of day. Whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 1>something happened out there on the golf course because Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>decided he would show Jackie Gleeson what the comedian wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see most of all in life. And later that

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<v Speaker 1>same day, President Nixon took Jackie Gleeson to a secret

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<v Speaker 1>base in Florida because the most powerful man on earth

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<v Speaker 1>had promised his friend he would show him the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>of dead aliens recovered from a crashed UFO. At least

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<v Speaker 1>that's how the story goes. This is very special episodes

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm your host, Zarn Burnett. This is the story

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<v Speaker 1>of when Nixon showed Jackie Gleeson where the aliens are.

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<v Speaker 3>Kept Welcome back to very special episodes. My name is

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<v Speaker 3>Jason English. I'm solo this week for the banter portion

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<v Speaker 3>of our program, the full Team. We'll be back next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Dana and Zaren and I have a running joke about

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<v Speaker 3>how Richard Nixon seems to appear in every episode we

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<v Speaker 3>put out, just in the last couple months. He popped

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<v Speaker 3>up in our discussion of Big Bird's diplomatic mission to China.

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<v Speaker 3>Saren mentions him briefly in our episode with David Chase

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the Lost Wonder Years script. Nixon's name comes

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<v Speaker 3>up at the end of last week's episode when we

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about my daughter's appearance on The Rachel Ray Show.

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<v Speaker 3>We crunched the numbers. Nixon has appeared in forty percent

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<v Speaker 3>of our episodes this year, and none of these episodes

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<v Speaker 3>are about Richard Nixon. He's just in the background. So

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<v Speaker 3>Saren decided to set off and find the strangest story

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<v Speaker 3>that actually involves the former president. I will caveat from

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<v Speaker 3>the start this story may not be true, but the

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<v Speaker 3>people involved all believed that it was.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 3>Did President Nixon show his buddy Jackie Gleeson the secret

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<v Speaker 3>facility in Florida, where we're hiding dead aliens, let's discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty eighteen, a home that once belonged to Jackie

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<v Speaker 1>Gleeson came up for sale asking Chrisce twelve million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The custom built dwelling was situated in a leafy glen

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hudson Valley. The home was quite unique. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a complex of structures. Two of them were

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<v Speaker 1>built to look like UFOs. There's the main house aka

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<v Speaker 1>the Mothership, and there's the guesthouse aka the scout Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>The comic had the homes built to his exacting specifications.

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<v Speaker 1>The construction took five years. In nineteen fifty nine, when

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<v Speaker 1>the builders were done, Jackie Gleeson had a home that

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a UFO had landed in the New York Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside the home you would find no right angles, no

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<v Speaker 1>indication it was shaped by human hands. Instead, all the

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<v Speaker 1>angles were rounded, curved, and organic by design. In the

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<v Speaker 1>listing from the real estate agents from Remax, they noted

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<v Speaker 1>that the concept of the home is a musical note,

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<v Speaker 1>hence the roundness of the design.

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<v Speaker 2>As with a note, it never ends.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at the ceilings, the woodwork looks like rowboats.

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<v Speaker 2>There are the trusses that hold the house up.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no cross support beams because they would have

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<v Speaker 1>had right angles.

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<v Speaker 2>The home boasted a hell of a spread.

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<v Speaker 1>There were five bedrooms, six baths, a library, a billiard's room,

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<v Speaker 1>a home office, and roughly seventy five hundred square feet

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<v Speaker 1>of living space. And Jackie Gleeson often played host at

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<v Speaker 1>the home, entertaining his famous friends and colleagues, including Richard Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>which tells us that Richard Nixon was quite familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that his old friend Jackie Gleeson was a

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<v Speaker 1>nut for the flying saucermen from Mars. In his custom

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<v Speaker 1>spaceship home, Jackie Gleeson kept a library of seventeen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>books on the subject, as well as books on parapsychology

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<v Speaker 1>and the paranormal. But above it all, Jackie Gleeson was

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<v Speaker 1>all about them aliens, UFOs and flying saucers. To read

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<v Speaker 1>contemporary stories on the subject, such as the one about

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<v Speaker 1>a woman who claimed to be married to a man

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<v Speaker 1>from Saturn, he also examined the photographs of any and

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<v Speaker 1>all reported UFO sightings. Jackie Gleeson mostly came away unconvinced.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a skeptical believer. He wanted to know if

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<v Speaker 1>there were aliens out there. He believed there were, but

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<v Speaker 1>he really wanted to know for sure. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>small and subtle irony that the man who played Ralph

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<v Speaker 1>Cramden on the early TV show The Honeymooners, who first

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<v Speaker 1>became famous for comically threatening his wife home, was into UFOs.

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<v Speaker 1>But the man was a space case, and he also was.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends with the most powerful man in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The keeper of the secrets. Former President Lyndon Johnson, had

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<v Speaker 1>died in January, just days after Nixon's second inauguration.

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<v Speaker 2>The man who knew.

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<v Speaker 1>That Nixon cheated his way into power in the sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight election, who could have revealed what he called Nixon's

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<v Speaker 1>quote treason, was gone. So was the once all powerful

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<v Speaker 1>head of the FBI, J Edgar Hoover. He died in

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<v Speaker 1>May of seventy two. Also, former President Truman died in

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<v Speaker 1>December of that same year, and so in nineteen seventy three,

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<v Speaker 1>at the start of his second term, the only one

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<v Speaker 1>left still standing is Richard Nixon. He was the only

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<v Speaker 1>living president. Nixon was the only keeper of the secrets left,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Secrets to keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul blake Smith wrote the book President Eisenhower's Close Encounters

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<v Speaker 1>when Nixon was the vice president.

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<v Speaker 5>To Dwight D.

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower, he'd learned about the aliens who'd come to Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Paul Blacksmith, the story goes quote, Eisenhower stepped

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<v Speaker 1>away from his golf vacation in Palm Springs, California, on

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<v Speaker 1>the night of February nineteenth, nineteen fifty four, and went

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<v Speaker 1>to Edward's Air Force Base in a pre arranged meeting

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<v Speaker 1>to meet some landed friendly extraterrestrials. They were human like,

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<v Speaker 1>according to a US test pilot who was there. The

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<v Speaker 1>aliens were reportedly fluent English speakers, and they chatted with

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<v Speaker 1>President Eisenhower in a relaxed and conversational manner. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>that the aliens also liked Ike, but they did ask

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower to do them one favor, hook him up do

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<v Speaker 1>a solid for the et. As Paul Blake Smith tells it,

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<v Speaker 1>the aliens told Ike, quote, stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Your atomic boom testing program.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically it was like a riff on the plot

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<v Speaker 1>of the classic sci fi flick The Day of the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Stood Still. But you may be thinking, what about Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>was he also there, We don't know. It's doubtful. When

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<v Speaker 1>LBJ was president, exactly ten years later, he took a

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<v Speaker 1>trip out to that same top secret base in Palm Springs.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Paul Blake Smith, he claims that he found

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that President Johnson also had a secret rendezvous with

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<v Speaker 1>the same aliens that Ike spoke to.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently on the tenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Anniversary of Eisenhower's initial contact with the Flying Saucer Men,

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<v Speaker 1>which would make it February nineteenth, nineteen sixty four, then

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<v Speaker 1>President Johnson called former President Eisenhower from the White House

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<v Speaker 1>and asked him about the aliens, what to do, what

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<v Speaker 1>to say, how to chitchat with them? Then he flew

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<v Speaker 1>to Pop Springs, where he met with Ike in person

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times. Then he went back again four years later

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty eight, and again on the same date,

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<v Speaker 1>February nineteenth. As Paul Blake Smith reasons quote, something was up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now does that date sound familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same day that Nixon went golfing with Jackie Gleeson,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the same day that he took Jackie Gleeson

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<v Speaker 1>to see the preserved bodies from a wrecked alien spaceship.

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<v Speaker 1>Only now it's five years later. February nineteenth, nineteen seventy three.

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<v Speaker 1>That day, Nixon was in Miami to attend Jackie Gleeson's

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity golf tournament, which was televised on CBS. At the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course, the President's helicopter touchdown, Nixon hopped out a

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<v Speaker 1>Marine one. He chatted with the press before the news cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>He bantered a bit with Jackie Gleeson. Then he and

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<v Speaker 1>his pal hopped in a golf cart and toured the

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<v Speaker 1>manicured greens. Their golf outing that day is well documented,

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<v Speaker 1>but what's not as well documented is what happened later

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<v Speaker 1>that same day when Nixon showed up at Jackie Gleeson's

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<v Speaker 1>house alone. I gene with my own jew I In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty, Jackie Gleason was on the radio talking about

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<v Speaker 1>his love of all things alien. But he was no

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<v Speaker 1>gape mouthed, goable guy. Gleason wasn't there to speculate. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there to dream aloud about one day seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>flying saucer and those little green men from Mars. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted evidence, incontrovertible evidence, and he wanted others in

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<v Speaker 1>the community to also demand provable evidence for what he called,

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<v Speaker 1>quote the most important story in the world. The radio

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<v Speaker 1>show he was on was called The Long John Neville Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Gleason was a guest along with fellow paranormal researcher.

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<v Speaker 2>Gray Barker, and Whoo. Jackie went hard after his fellow believer.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, the two men get into this heated

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<v Speaker 1>exchange about a woman named Marla Baxter who claimed to

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<v Speaker 1>be married to a man from Saturn.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie found it laughable.

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<v Speaker 1>He felt this kind of talk was exactly the problem

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<v Speaker 1>that was why aliens in flying saucers were considered such

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<v Speaker 1>a kooky subject and never taken seriously by serious people.

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<v Speaker 1>That night, in nineteen fifty eight, Gleason wondered aloud on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio show why aliens always picked such dubious people

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<v Speaker 1>to abduct or to give their messages to humanity?

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<v Speaker 2>As Jackie Gleeson put.

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<v Speaker 6>It, why what a space person contact anyone? Well, let's

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<v Speaker 6>not say how it's that's dla. Why what a space

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<v Speaker 6>person con got any woman being on it? That's what

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<v Speaker 6>you think would be, at least according to the people

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<v Speaker 6>who claim to be contacted the space people have a.

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<v Speaker 4>Message for us.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, Jackie Gleason asks what that message is,

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<v Speaker 1>and more importantly, he asks, if the aliens really want

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<v Speaker 1>us to believe their message, and if they do want

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<v Speaker 1>us to believe it, then why don't.

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<v Speaker 4>They everdence along with this so that we were believe them.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what drives the funny man crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>If the aliens want to make contact, why do they

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<v Speaker 1>always pick the most suspect citizens to convey the information

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<v Speaker 1>to Why trust them with their message and then obscure

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<v Speaker 1>any evidence that they've been on earth?

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<v Speaker 2>It makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>In that same radio show, Jackie Gleeson tells a story

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<v Speaker 1>of how two years earlier, back in nineteen fifty six,

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to make a documentary about aliens. His partner

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<v Speaker 1>in the project was the legendary mid century journalist Edward R.

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<v Speaker 4>Murraw.

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<v Speaker 2>As Gleeson tells the story as.

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<v Speaker 4>Morrow and I I want to and I sauld I

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<v Speaker 4>think the biggest story of the world is flying them.

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<v Speaker 4>If they I let you and I do a documentary

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<v Speaker 4>fhing what don't If they're off wearing sauce or who telling,

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<v Speaker 4>But it's just the full goal, then we should forget

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<v Speaker 4>about it. And he says, I got the guy in

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<v Speaker 4>general so and so up, and we called the guy

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<v Speaker 4>up that the guy said to don't get paying this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get pare it. It's too hot

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<v Speaker 4>down here. I don't want to handle it. And you

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<v Speaker 4>might as well to get about the project. You'll get

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<v Speaker 4>no co operation. And I all hung up the phone

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<v Speaker 4>and he left that may and he repeated what the

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<v Speaker 4>guy said to him on the phone, if I could

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<v Speaker 4>pare up the Henry, and he left that they're off wine.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't matter which avenue he attempted. If he partnered

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<v Speaker 1>with a respected journalist and tried to ask the important questions,

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<v Speaker 1>or if he did late night radio shows the paranormal investigators,

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Gleeson could never get the answers he most desperately desired,

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<v Speaker 1>as he mused to Great Darker, the paranormal author and investigator.

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<v Speaker 4>With a client off, a little guy hopping out and say.

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<v Speaker 6>Perios probably wanted to go. And I want to have

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<v Speaker 6>that ran down a faceball field in Central Park and

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<v Speaker 6>there'll be plenty of people in who were three years

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<v Speaker 6>and five minutes, everybody alone, whatever its.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, well, Jackie Gleeson didn't know then, But what he

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<v Speaker 1>was about to discover was that his friend, the most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful man in the world, wanted to share a secret

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<v Speaker 1>with him, one that would forever change his life. Jackie

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<v Speaker 1>Gleeson met Beverly McKittrick, his second wife, at a country club.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking back, much of his life was shaped by country clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>The pair married in nineteen seventy. Their marriage didn't last long.

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<v Speaker 1>They divorced in nineteen seventy five, but it was an

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<v Speaker 1>amicable split. Eight years later, in nineteen eighty three, Beverly

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<v Speaker 1>McKittrick shared a very unexpected story from her time being

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<v Speaker 1>married to Jackie Gleeson. It was about the time his friend,

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<v Speaker 1>the President showed her husband the Flying Saucerman.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll never forget the night in nineteen seventy three my

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<v Speaker 7>famous husband came home, slumped white faced in an armchair

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<v Speaker 7>and spilled out the incredible story to me. He was late.

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<v Speaker 7>It was around eleven thirty pm, and I'd been worried.

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<v Speaker 7>As soon as I heard his key turn and the

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<v Speaker 7>lock of our golf course home in Invery, Florida, I

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<v Speaker 7>jumped to my feet and asked, where have you been.

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<v Speaker 7>His reply stunned me.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been at Homestead Air Force Base, and I've seen

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<v Speaker 5>the bodies some aliens from out of space. It's top secret.

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<v Speaker 5>Only a few people know, but the President arranged for

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<v Speaker 5>me to be escorted in there and see them.

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<v Speaker 1>According to mckitchenen, that night, Nixon showed up at their

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<v Speaker 1>home alone, driving himself. Now this may sound fetched, but Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>like John F. Kennedy, was known to sneak out of

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, and Nixon was even known to give

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<v Speaker 1>his Secret service men the slip from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess Old Tricky Dick was also Slippery Dick. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon saigns his secret service guys. When he shows up

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<v Speaker 1>at Jackie Gleeson's home and the President tells Jackie he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a surprise for him.

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<v Speaker 5>Nixon is like, come on, good up, Jackie, put on

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<v Speaker 5>your pants, let's go. There's something I want to show you.

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon drives them thirty five miles over to Homestead Air

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<v Speaker 1>Force Base. Of course, the President's recognized and saluted by

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<v Speaker 1>the soldier at the gate, and they're waved onto the base.

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon leads Jackie Gleeson to a top secret facility. It

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<v Speaker 1>was heavily guarded yet it was a nondescript building. There,

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon is waved into the top secret facility because he's

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<v Speaker 1>the president, and I guess that includes plus one privileges,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was able to get Jackie Gleeson into the

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<v Speaker 1>top secret facility with him. Jackie Gleeson's wife McKittrick very

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<v Speaker 1>memorably recalls what he told her when he returned home.

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<v Speaker 7>There were a number of labs we passed through first

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<v Speaker 7>before we entered a section where Nixon pointed out what

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<v Speaker 7>he said was the wreckage from a flying saucer and

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<v Speaker 7>closed in several large cases. Next, we went into an

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<v Speaker 7>inner chamber, and there were six or eight of what

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<v Speaker 7>looked like glass topped coke freezers. Inside them were the

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<v Speaker 7>mangled remains of what I took to be children.

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<v Speaker 1>It's finally happening. The aliens are so close Jackie Gleeson

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<v Speaker 1>can almost touch them. One might imagine Gleeson is looking

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<v Speaker 1>to Nixon, the President nodding in response, and then Gleeson

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<v Speaker 1>looks once again at the fantastically terrific sight before him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy to imagine Nixon standing there in the top

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<v Speaker 1>secret base wearing some awkward, uneasy Nixon smile. As he

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<v Speaker 1>tells his good friend Jackie Gleeson.

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<v Speaker 5>Ugh, as you can see they're real.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just a thick piece of glass separating the former

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<v Speaker 1>TV star from what he's most always wanted to see,

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<v Speaker 1>a real alien from outer space.

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<v Speaker 7>And there were the aliens, lying on four separate tables.

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<v Speaker 7>They were tiny, only about two feet tall, with small,

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<v Speaker 7>bald heads and disproportionately large eyes. They must have been

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<v Speaker 7>dead for some time because they'd been embalmed.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Nixon, the alien's bodies had been pulled from

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<v Speaker 1>the wreckage of a spaceship.

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<v Speaker 2>No word on if it was the famous crash at Roswell.

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<v Speaker 1>After all those years of searching, after reading all those

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of books, attending all the conferences, and listening to

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<v Speaker 1>all those late night call in shows, finally Jackie Gleeson

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<v Speaker 1>had his evidence of flying saucers and the little Green

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<v Speaker 1>men from Mars, and just as Nixon had hoped, it

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<v Speaker 1>indeed blew his friend's mind. His wife remembers how after

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<v Speaker 1>he returned home, Jackie Gleeson.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't sleep for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to know so badly and for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>But then when he finally did see an alien in

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<v Speaker 1>a spaceship with his own two eyes. It nearly wrecked him.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't know how to process it. However, he did

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<v Speaker 1>know he needed to swear his wife to secrecy, so

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<v Speaker 1>he did that, and she didn't tell anyone right up

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<v Speaker 1>until they got divorced, and then she wrote her tell

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<v Speaker 1>All memoir.

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<v Speaker 2>Then she told the story to the.

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<v Speaker 1>National Inquirer because Homegirl needed to sell some books, which

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<v Speaker 1>immediately undercut her credibility. So what did Jackie Gleason say

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<v Speaker 1>about his encounter after his wife spilled the beans and

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<v Speaker 1>told his secret to the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't deny it, he didn't dispute it. He also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't corroborate it. He didn't say anything. One year before

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<v Speaker 1>he passed away, Jackie Gleeson gave an interview to a

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<v Speaker 1>fellow ufologist named Larry Warren, and that guy claims that

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Gleeson repeated the same story to him seated there

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<v Speaker 1>in his UFO shaped home in the Hudson Valley. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some who have claimed to see those very

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<v Speaker 1>same aliens in the top secret base in Homestead, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and one man, a former CIA operative named Chauncey Holt,

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<v Speaker 1>claims he was there that very day, February nineteenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three, when Nixon showed Jackie Gleeson the small, mangled

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<v Speaker 1>bodies of shipwrecked aliens. Yet the question remains, did Richard

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon really reveal the greatest secret ever kept? Did the

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<v Speaker 1>President take his golf buddy Jackie Gleeson to a top

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<v Speaker 1>secret facility and show him the proof he so clearly craved.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Ironically, we have no proof. We just have the stories.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like to believe it happened. But I like

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<v Speaker 1>to believe aliens are real. I also like to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Jackie Gleeson got what he wanted most out of

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<v Speaker 1>this life, that he finally saw a real alien, and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it wiped out everything he'd ever known or believed

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<v Speaker 1>to be true, which wrecked him too, the great cost

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<v Speaker 1>of innocence lost. I also like to believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful man in the world, Richard Nixon, the master

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<v Speaker 1>of secrets, wanted to give his friend the greatest gift

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<v Speaker 1>he could think of, but he forgot to tell him

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<v Speaker 1>how to live with that truth. There's an irony there too.

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<v Speaker 1>The most famous liar in American political history gives his

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<v Speaker 1>friend a great hidden truth as a gift, and that

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<v Speaker 1>truth damn near kills his friend Nixon.

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<v Speaker 2>But at least Jackie Gleeson got to see the aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, if you believe it happened. We just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes not knowing is better. We can believe whatever

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<v Speaker 1>we want.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening.

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