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Speaker 6: It is Monday, September fifteenth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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Speaker 6: episode number thirty seven. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 6: It is our job today to get you up to

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Speaker 6: speed on all things that happened yesterday and a forty

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Speaker 6: thirty seven overtime win by the Dallas Calboy.

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Speaker 2: Who had that score?

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Speaker 3: Nobody I had to ford it.

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Speaker 6: I did me too, I said forty burger, But I

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Speaker 6: had no idea that the Giants had that kind of offense.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not quite sure I should even say right

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Speaker 6: I'm not even sure it is that kind of offense

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Speaker 6: as much as it is that kind of defense for

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Speaker 6: the cowboy.

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Speaker 5: We'll get into all that.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna talk about so many things that happened in

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Speaker 6: that game yesterday, because it was you probably could write

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Speaker 6: a story off each quarter and have it being strive

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Speaker 6: and yeah, literally it could be a game story off

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Speaker 6: of each one of those moments. But we'll go through

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Speaker 6: some of that stuff and get you guys up to speed.

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Speaker 6: Let's start what we normally start on a Monday, and

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Speaker 6: I want to go around and give have you guys

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Speaker 6: give me what you think was the storyline of this

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Speaker 6: game other than the fact that it was drunk.

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Speaker 3: Everybody jump on Dak's back and let's look. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think if Dak is going to be leading this thing,

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Speaker 3: he's going to be in charge of this thing and

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Speaker 3: we live and die by him. Cool, and we all

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Speaker 3: felt like the Giants defense was the hearder of the

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Speaker 3: units to deal with. And you know, pass Rush it

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Speaker 3: bore tow us up a little bit early, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Dak knows how to handle nonsense going on around him. Man,

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Speaker 3: shout out to the Giants. They did a really good

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Speaker 3: job in the first quarter. They gave the ball back

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Speaker 3: to the Cowboys with six minutes left, so first drive

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Speaker 3: almost a three and out. They would have, you know,

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Speaker 3: had the fourth down quarterback sneak that didn't necessarily work

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Speaker 3: out time management. Cowboys have to clean that up. But

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys definitely scored what thirty seven points in three quarters,

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Speaker 3: So shout out to Dak in them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think to me, there's the and you mentioned

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Speaker 2: about Dak and stuff in the offense, So I think

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Speaker 2: there's some things that they have to look at defensively, yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: it is you know, we talk about some coverages in

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Speaker 2: the way that Matt Eberfuss plays it. But we also

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Speaker 2: everything that they're doing. Is everything they're doing, you know,

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Speaker 2: to the best of the ability of the players that

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Speaker 2: they have. And it's not me here. It's my responsibility

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Speaker 2: to to be like say, hey, this is good and

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Speaker 2: just just doesn't look like to me, there's fits and

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Speaker 2: there doesn't like there's a lot of communication and there's

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Speaker 2: some things I'm sure that they're looking at right now

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Speaker 2: that we're breaking down. Cover two is pretty simple to play,

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Speaker 2: Donovan Wilson is not a Cover two player. He's just not.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you put him on a hash or

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Speaker 2: You could play Cover two and play zone and all

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Speaker 2: that's and that's the unfortunate thing. Yes, you do not

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Speaker 2: But if you're going to not bring pressure, and if

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting because we'll get into more of the

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Speaker 6: the whys of what we think on that defense. But

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Speaker 6: it's interesting to me that that yesterday you just saw

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Speaker 6: the difference between week one and week two. Now, don't

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Speaker 6: does make you wonder, if you know, when you play

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Speaker 6: the results have said, that's a really bad mix for

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Speaker 3: This is gonna make us really mad. Russell Wilson's gonna

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Speaker 3: go out there next week versus the Chiefs. You say, Brian,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna throw for like ninety seven yards. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: And you go, hey man, how did this happen versus Cowboys?

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Speaker 3: But it didn't happen versus Eagles, and the they go

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Speaker 3: do this. You know, you can't play all these quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: when you're going against Jalen Hurst, maybe these muddy looks

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Speaker 3: how is it viuch that aj Brown and you know

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to do something different every single week.

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Speaker 3: You can't just be like, we're gonna run forty seven

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Speaker 3: out of forty eight zone plays and then do the

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Speaker 3: same thing the very next week, because they got film

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Speaker 3: on you doing that. This Cowboys defense isn't They don't

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Speaker 3: have a black belt in Flus's defense, right, This is

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Speaker 3: for this all the time, notorious Cover three guy in

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Speaker 3: Seattle or whatever. But he comes here he says, hey man,

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Speaker 3: we got some man dudes, some pass rushers. You know

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Speaker 3: this will benefit us. So Taylor, your playing to these guys.

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Speaker 3: Shody is running the football because he got a running

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Speaker 3: back back and run the football. If running don't work,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna throw the ball. Just do something different. I

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Speaker 3: need Flus and I'm just a dude with a camera

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Speaker 3: and a microphone that's barely working. For Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 3: I just need flues to look at this much, to

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Speaker 3: look at the opponent and just make adjustments every single

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Speaker 3: week and you'll be fine, don't I don't think the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys have a talent issue on defense, but your talent.

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Speaker 3: You can't ask this group of past rushers to get

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Speaker 3: pressure with four number eleven ain't here. Sure, Pika Marsons

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Speaker 3: with more than four guys. It just is what it is.

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Speaker 3: You you probably got man cover corners. Try to throw

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Speaker 3: some man stuff in at it to compliment your man

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Speaker 2: I agree. No, I think you're absolutely right about that.

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Speaker 2: And that's what coaches always talk about. Hey, we got

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Speaker 2: you know, defensively. You know you made some plays during

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Speaker 2: the interception was the The interception was because Sam Williams

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Speaker 2: there's there was a It just goes back to like

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Speaker 2: But but Boch is absolutely right. If you've got a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, putting numbers to this.

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Speaker 6: In week one, as you mentioned, watch next Genesta said

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Speaker 6: Next Gen stat said they ran zone ninety six percent

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Speaker 3: To be multiple.

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Speaker 6: We're going to be multiple, And he was talking about

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Speaker 5: Here is that they're just not good at it.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was a couple of times there in that

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Speaker 3: Just be clear. I don't want to take Donovan off

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just to me, I wonder, and you guys

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Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday, Dak Prescott was thirty eight or fifty two, seventy

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Speaker 3: I think the Giants just did a decent job of

438
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,520
Speaker 3: knowing you First of all, you didn't really get that

439
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 3: many chances at it in the first quarter. But besides that,

440
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,159
Speaker 3: knowing that little play action boot waggle tight end to

441
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 3: the flats and Shoty kept calling it, and eventually he

442
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 3: stopped calling it and they went more vertical with Jake.

443
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 3: So good for Shotty. They're making the adjustment lose. Also,

444
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 3: also we talked about the offense, I'm just talking my

445
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 3: coaches in general. Also too, I think the run game

446
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 3: got going as well, and and that helped us out

447
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 3: a lot. You know, I just I just had to

448
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,400
Speaker 3: keep giving credit. Man thirty three is a lot better

449
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 3: than what I thought he was. And when he's you know,

450
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 3: catching dump offs and getting more yards because he's whooping

451
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 3: hell out of people downfield, right, that just makes Das

452
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: makes Dak's job easier. Uh So we can definitely talk

453
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 3: about you know, running back later and what that means

454
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 3: for the other running backs and all that, but just

455
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 3: as far as what the what the Giants did whooping

456
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 3: your line up front, and it happened to all of

457
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 3: them except for Big Tyler, which is seventy three, but

458
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 3: all the rest of them, they kind of went through

459
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 3: their ups and downs here. The tight ends helped a

460
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 3: little bit. The running back stayed in a handful of times.

461
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 3: But I did like when the when the Cowboys chose

462
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 3: to help with the tight end but throw to the

463
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 3: running back. I think that's something that just kept working.

464
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 3: So they just kept going going to it. But after

465
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 3: a while we just talked about it here, that kind

466
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 3: of got a feel for when the offensive line was

467
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 3: was gonna lose up front. Right. It sounds crazy, but

468
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: he got a feel for it. And the ball came

469
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 3: out right when Dak was getting hit. So Dak did

470
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: get hit more towards the towards the end of the game.

471
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 3: But it's like Lamb for thirty pickings and thirty you know,

472
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 3: Ferguson downfield or whatever, So shouts out to Dak for

473
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: kind of figuring this thing out and Turf and had

474
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 3: a good game too.

475
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the point was made about at one

476
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: point in the first that Dallas had run six plays

477
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: to the Giants twenty two. Crazy, you know, so now

478
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 2: you're now you're in a little bit of a bind

479
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: with that whole situation, and you're, you know, you're going

480
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 2: three and our and stuff like that. I kind of

481
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 2: felt like that if you look at the it was

482
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: the eleven I think it was the eleven twenty six

483
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: mark in the second quarter, they throw a thirty three

484
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: yard pass to the ceed Lamb, they max protect the

485
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: thing and they kind of rolled back to the right

486
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: and they sling that ball all the way across the

487
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 2: field to the left. After that point, I kind of

488
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: felt like, okay, now, you know, it kind of woke

489
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: them up. Then Ferguson got a ball and it was

490
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: like shot. He was in a little bit of a

491
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: funk calling, like he had been so good on the

492
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 2: first couple of drives against the Eagles. I mean it

493
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 2: was like, you know, Mike, You're like, whoa look at this.

494
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: You know, combinations of run passed together, everything getting married.

495
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 2: You know. Just the fact that he didn't have the

496
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: ball a whole whole bunch in the first I think

497
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: affected the way that he kind of called that game.

498
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: But after that passed that thirty three yard pass to CD,

499
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like he got it going. But

500
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: to you guys point as well, the one the second

501
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: half passes. You know, if you remember, he throws a

502
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 2: ball down the field to Lamb, it's a big, big

503
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: play and he gets whacked. I mean it's a it's

504
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: a it's a roughing the passer penalty. That just showed

505
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 2: you though that Dak he had to hang in there

506
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: and hang in there and make some throws with some guys,

507
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: and he took some hits, is what he did. But

508
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: I felt like early in the game it was more

509
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: kind of more of that than it was the later part. Yeah,

510
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: the numbers will tell you. I'm sure you're going to

511
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 2: tell me, Derek that there were more pressures and all that,

512
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: but it just seemed like to me the routes were better.

513
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: They got Pickens involved too. That's you got him going

514
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: the slant. The slant he makes on third down late

515
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: in the game. What a great catch he's got inside.

516
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: They got inside leverage on him, and he still runs

517
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: the slant and Dak puts it right on him. How

518
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: about the out route for the touchdown that he set

519
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: up him again, boom right there at the line. That's

520
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: a tight window throw. That thing could have got picked

521
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 2: and gone the other way, and then the next thing

522
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: you know, you're losing a football game. So Dak did

523
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: a great job of hanging in there, Pickens getting involved,

524
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 2: Lamb making some plays, the offensive line, you know, doing

525
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: what they had to do to make sure that the

526
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: ball got out when they could.

527
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say this shot shoddy and Dak yesterday

528
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 6: proved a lot to me. Now, it's early in the season,

529
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 6: but the way they adapted, because at the early part

530
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 6: of that game, I don't think they had much much

531
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 6: going offensively. I don't think Dak was necessarily at his

532
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 6: best at the early part of that game. But what

533
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 6: I saw was as that game went on, I started

534
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 6: to get confidence by watching Dak that they were going

535
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 6: to make it happen.

536
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 5: Like as you got to.

537
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 6: The end of that game, and then even in overtime

538
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 6: when they had the ball, I felt like, Oh, they're

539
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 6: gonna make something happen. Because Dak got better as the

540
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 6: game wore on, the play calling got better as the

541
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 6: game gone on, The offense started to jail. I'm started

542
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 6: to click a little bit more as a game went on,

543
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 6: and that's not something we've always seen around here. Sometimes

544
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 6: when it goes off track, it just stays off track.

545
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 6: And so I think that was a big credit to

546
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 6: both Shoddy and to Dak into the whole offense.

547
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 5: But that being said, what are we gonna say something?

548
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but real quick though, if it could, there was

549
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: a couple I mean, I'm sorry, you need to finish.

550
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 5: I didn't mean to put no, I was gonna move

551
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 5: to another topic, so real.

552
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: Quick though, though. You know where you give credit to

553
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: Shoddy for some things, An absolutely him and Dek, but

554
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: also to me with the intent that they got the

555
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: delay game penalty when they had a chance to get

556
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: a first down right there, and they looked like they

557
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: had the intent to get the first down and they

558
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: just didn't get the.

559
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 5: They have to be just a brain farm. But well,

560
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 5: but if you look.

561
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: At this crew, if you look at that crew last

562
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: week and the in the game I think they had

563
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Jets game, they had two clock violations. You know,

564
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: so you got to be a yeah, you got to

565
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 2: be aware of like who you're dealing with in that crew,

566
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: and that with these crews, if they're going to call

567
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: roughing the pass or if they're gonna call if they're

568
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: gonna call lining up in the backfield, you gotta be

569
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 2: aware that this crew is gonna throw a flag. But

570
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: also too right before the half that could have been devastating.

571
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: You know, we always talk about winning the middle eight,

572
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: you know, the four minutes before the end of the half,

573
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: and then the four minutes and you had that opportunity

574
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: to get some points and then turn around and get

575
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: points coming out. Yeah, and then you just completely you know,

576
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 2: poop in the bed and don't do anything the end

577
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: of half, and then dak thoes interceptions to start the

578
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: second half. So, you know, just unfortunate the way that

579
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: some of the game management stuff. That's really the one

580
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: criticism I have as Schottenheimer is of how poorly that

581
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: those two were, those two segments were executed.

582
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.

583
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 6: I just wonder on that play, particularly what they got

584
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 6: delay a game that seemed like he audible two or

585
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 6: three times, yeah, and the Giants basically gate like there

586
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 6: was a gaping hole in the middle of their defense.

587
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 6: I was like thatk just snapped the ball and run, run,

588
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 6: which is exactly what he did.

589
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 5: He just waited.

590
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I don't know if he was trying to

591
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 6: get them off balanced by by continuing audible, but at

592
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 6: some point you's got to go, and I think they

593
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 6: missed that opportunity.

594
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. You kind of felt like that they were trying

595
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: to draw them, and I'm like, man, I see the

596
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: same thing the gap. Just step up and go, just

597
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: step up and run the play. But Bill Vinovich and

598
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: that crew, now that you know, they've got a little

599
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: bit of a hey the clock is the clock hit zero?

600
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: And I've seen it lot worse. I've seen clock hit

601
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: zero in no call. This thing went one then there

602
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: and then now you know the play, you're kind of

603
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 2: feeling like, whoa man that was? That was a quick

604
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: whistle right there.

605
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: So how was set up as a former center bron Brus.

606
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. They you know you if

607
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: you just line up and quarterback sneak it. Yeah, Dex

608
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: Lawrence is there. So what you really want is to go, Hey,

609
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: y'all were trying to get you to jump out side.

610
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: Chill audible. Hey, stay disciplined, don't jump off side, and

611
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: then we go and then we'll get you right right.

612
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: It's just that that was a really quick zero flag.

613
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: I've seen it go zero tick then flag, Oh I

614
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: have so so Yeah, Dak Dak and Shotty weren't kind

615
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: of wrong there. But the but the point is to

616
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: get the ball right at one and then go right.

617
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: But the flag came out.

618
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 5: Can't go ahead zero, it has to snap at one.

619
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: Got to be ed this one. So they did miss there,

620
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: but it was on purpose.

621
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, let's let's talk about Javonte Williams. He

622
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 6: had eighteen carriage fro ninety seven yards five point four average,

623
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 6: one touchdown. He had another six receptions for thirty three yards.

624
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

625
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 6: The interesting part is they didn't really run a lot yesterday.

626
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 5: And I went back.

627
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 6: You know, at the end of the game, you look

628
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 6: at and you're like, well, they did go to overtime,

629
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 6: there was a shootout game, and they had fifty two

630
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 6: passes twenty eight runs. Maybe that was a result of

631
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 6: what happened late in the game, but even in the

632
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 6: first half before it was in that kind of situation.

633
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 6: I think what the Cowboys had six rushes in the

634
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 6: first half, I'm sorry, the first quarter, and then they

635
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 6: had what twenty one passes in the first quarter. Even

636
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 6: early in the game, they were throwing the ball a

637
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 6: lot more than the run. Do you think that that

638
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 6: was part of the reason why maybe they weren't finding

639
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 6: that rhythm. It's because maybe they should have been doing

640
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 6: a little bit more running early in the game.

641
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I don't like about Miya McCarthy.

642
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: He don't work here no more. But when you used

643
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: to ask Mike, Hey, Mike, what's wrong with the run game? Oh,

644
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: we just need to run it more. We just need

645
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: some more attempts. And I would hate los this possible

646
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: for that out. I would hate when you see him

647
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: as we look up, there's j I would hate what

648
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: he's saying that just because you ran it doesn't mean

649
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: that this is the right time to run it. The

650
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: Cowboys are seeming to find the right times to run it.

651
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: And it's not like Javonte Wieds going out there and

652
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: have in two hundred yard rushing games, right, But it's like, boy,

653
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: we're running the ball really well in the red zone

654
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Speaker 3: or at the goal line, where the Cowboys have always

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Speaker 3: had problems running the football, right. So I think Javonte

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Speaker 3: catching the football is just as much a part of

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Speaker 3: this thing as well. That little swing to the outside

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Speaker 3: him catching and running somebody over. I think that's like

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Speaker 3: a run play also, so you know, them running is

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Speaker 3: definitely part of the rhythm or whatnot. But once they

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Speaker 3: got going running the ball, you saw, okay, they got

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Speaker 3: going doing everything else, but it was really hard to

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Speaker 3: get that rhythm when your first drive is nonsense and

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Speaker 3: the Giants is just holding the ball for so long.

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Speaker 3: But once it got going, it was going.

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Speaker 2: It was clear though that they were going to have

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Speaker 2: success when they did run the ball with Whims and

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Speaker 2: a lot of this has to do with him. It

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Speaker 2: didn't matter if it was actually outside left or outside right,

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Speaker 2: it was inside and going into this we kind of

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Speaker 2: in Vatch and I were talking about this last week

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Speaker 2: when we were breaking this down, is like do you

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Speaker 2: attack the edges for the Giants? Do you run stay

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Speaker 2: away from running the ball inside and try and run

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Speaker 2: the ball a little bit more on the edges. But

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Speaker 2: if you look at the way that Williams, the way

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Speaker 2: that carries broke down almost eight yards going to the

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Speaker 2: left side, outside left, ten yards going to outside right.

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Speaker 2: So give you know, give the tackle some credit, give

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Speaker 2: span Ford some credit to that big body is able

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Speaker 2: to get some you know, get some blocks and stuff

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Speaker 2: up front they were able to get. But Williams, Williams,

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Speaker 2: just his toughness and his ability to find the gaps

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Speaker 2: and then to make those runs I think was really

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Speaker 5: All Right, we're gonna take our final break.

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Speaker 6: this one that's young, and I do think they're an

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Speaker 6: And we saw some problems yesterday in the past game.

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Speaker 6: been we've been harping on some things Cowboys could as

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Speaker 6: should have done, but let's not forget they won. And

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Speaker 6: I'm ask people that always say in the NFL, I

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Speaker 6: This was in the win column, so let's make sure

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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about the uh.

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Speaker 6: Let's continue on the conversation of the offensive line, and

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Speaker 6: I teased before we went into the break, really well,

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Speaker 6: you buck you guys. Both plays off played offensive line,

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Speaker 6: and I've heard from offensive lineman, you know, sometimes they

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Speaker 6: want the play caller to just say, we're gonna line

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Speaker 6: up and we're just gonna run through people. We're gonna

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Speaker 6: run the ball, and we're gonna be We're gonna be

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Speaker 6: the aggressors as opposed to when you're playing pass defense,

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Speaker 6: you're you're backing up, you know, you're playing more defense.

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Speaker 5: You're kind of just not letting them buy you. You're

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Speaker 5: kind of dancing. It's the dancing bear, you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 6: This a situation where some of what we saw from

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Speaker 6: this offensive line, which at times was not very good,

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Speaker 6: particularly in past protection, was a result of them not

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Speaker 6: giving them the ability to be the aggressors more often.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, that makes sense. And I think this offensive

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Speaker 3: line and how they run block with Williams and how

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Speaker 3: he runs, you know, I think it's easy to wear

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Speaker 3: down the defense. I think you saw it last week,

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Speaker 3: and you saw it towards the end of this game also,

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Speaker 3: and maybe that would have helped the Tylers. Right, so

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Speaker 3: tall Tyler's like three twenty two he's like three twenty

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Speaker 3: two something like that. So letting him lean on Burns,

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Speaker 3: who's like two sixty to sixty five or so, he's

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Speaker 3: you know, slimmer of an edge guy, that would have

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Speaker 3: probably you know, given him the advantage, you know. But

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Speaker 3: but instead Burns is good. He's just had a bunch

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Speaker 3: of water. He's fresh, and letting him be fast and

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Speaker 3: crafty and pass rush he got that could be a

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Speaker 3: disadvantage for him. Big Tyler who's Tyler Smith? He was

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Speaker 3: He was fine all day, every day, no matter what

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Speaker 3: you asked him to do. He's good. But Booker being young,

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Speaker 3: it's very much so to our advantage to let him

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Speaker 3: and b be punish and move guys and thump and

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Speaker 3: wear guys down as much as possible. It's just game

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Speaker 3: flow happened right, game flow. We just didn't get in

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Speaker 3: the rhythm and you just had to end up throwing

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Speaker 3: the ball, and just throwing the ball was just where

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Speaker 3: the advantage was. So the first taste of what you

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Speaker 3: got from Dexter Lawrence or Roy Jones, Robinson, I don't

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Speaker 3: know all three of his names, but the first thing

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Speaker 3: that you ran into with those guys was fresh pass Rusher.

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Speaker 3: This just doesn't benefit us. This isn't Tyrras Smith, Zach Martin,

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Speaker 3: Travis Frederick. They can line up and whoop you, however,

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Speaker 3: but this group of offensive linemen that are probably better

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Speaker 3: run blockers now than pass blockers, it'll probably benefit them.

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Speaker 3: The lean on guys first and then had to deal

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Speaker 3: with the past run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one really actually came down in the game

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Speaker 2: when you watch the tape, it came down to like

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Speaker 2: the heavy box or light box. Dallas had much more

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Speaker 2: success running with six or less defenders in the box

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Speaker 2: than they did when they got seven or more. You know,

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Speaker 2: the yards per carry went down. It just seemed like

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Speaker 2: that they had a little bit more problems of like

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Speaker 2: maybe it was trying to secure down guys and and

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Speaker 2: then you're not getting you know, like we're in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: you kind of got guys up on second level blocks

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Speaker 2: and things like that. But this one was really this

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Speaker 2: game came down to, you know, Dallas was really good

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Speaker 2: when it when it came to having to deal with

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Speaker 2: the lighter boxes, and maybe it's an adjustment that you

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Speaker 2: make if you're Dak Prescott and if you're Brian Schottenheimer,

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Speaker 2: you kind of come up with the idea of maybe

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Speaker 2: run past you know, check with me kind of situations,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you get and that can be on

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Speaker 2: the quarterback too. If the quarterback seees like, hey man,

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Speaker 2: we're having some success running against six or less defenders,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to need to run the ball here and

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Speaker 2: try and get a little bit of some rhythm that way.

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Speaker 2: I kind of felt like going into the game though

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Speaker 2: this week, throwing the ball was going to be if

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Speaker 2: you could have protected the front, if you protect Dak,

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Speaker 2: I felt like on this secondary you can make some plays.

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Speaker 2: And you started, like we were talking about earlier, protecting

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Speaker 2: it a little better, and then the ball was able

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Speaker 2: to get out and you were able to make some plays.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's going to be about Dallas is

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Speaker 2: going to have to and maybe teams will say, listen,

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Speaker 2: you want to play against Dallas, you got to play

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Speaker 2: against with heavy box because they will run. They will

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Speaker 2: run you out of that. If you put six or

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Speaker 2: less down there, Dallas will run with Williams and they'll

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Speaker 2: have some success doing it. But if you put the

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Speaker 2: extra guys in there, well, maybe that sets up some

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Speaker 2: stuff for the passing game. So it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like you're damned if you do, and

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Speaker 2: you're damned if you don't. But teams have got to

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Speaker 2: make a determination. Is Dallas's running game with light box

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Speaker 2: going to keep you from, you know, from playing that

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Speaker 2: way or do you have to say, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: they run the ball now with some effectiveness, we can't

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Speaker 2: do that. Well now, it helps pickings, it helps Ferguson,

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Speaker 2: it helps Lamb, it helps tober anybody else out there.

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Speaker 3: That's playing also too, You're not going to run into

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Speaker 3: another D line like this where there's like a dude,

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Speaker 3: like a bona fide dude lined up over your center

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Speaker 3: and three other guys that can get after it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you have to play the Giants again. But like Green

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Speaker 3: Bay may be the other example where like why it

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Speaker 3: is cool, but why it's not Dexter Lawrence and there's

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Speaker 3: Mike on the other side there. But you know, I

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Speaker 3: think match up one versus ones or whatnot. I just

873
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: think that this Giants D line group was just much

874
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: better than your Cowboys O line group. It'll be much

875
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 3: different versus the next few teams.

876
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, the metrics will tell you in this game that

877
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: the Giants played at about fifty six percent of the time.

878
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: So half the time when they were playing their front

879
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: they didn't think Dallas could run the ball. They said, okay,

880
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: we can handle it with our edges, our defensive tackles

881
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: and our linebackers, and Dallas on half those half of

882
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: those carries were able to get you know, four plus

883
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: yards on those carries. So if you kind of look

884
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: at how this all broke down, fifty percent of the

885
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: time Dallas was having success. Teams are going to have

886
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: to determine while is Williams and now a threat that

887
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: we can't just say, well, you know, teams will just

888
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: disregard Dallas's running game. You can't do that anymore. You can't.

889
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 6: Real quick, I was able when I went back. I

890
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 6: looked at every play in next Gen stats that had

891
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 6: that was considered a play where there was pressure. There

892
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 6: were nineteen total of them. It was the breakdown of

893
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 6: the guys that gave up the pressure. Three of them

894
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 6: came just by five man protection against the blitz that

895
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 6: was a free man, so.

896
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 5: They got pressure.

897
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: Five were attributed to Guidon, four attributed to Steele, four

898
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 6: attributed to Booker.

899
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 5: Three beat it to bebe.

900
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 6: Uh and it was interesting because a couple of the

901
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 6: ones that that that Bebie gave up. They were just

902
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 6: linebackers basically flitting him one and it was one on

903
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 6: one and they.

904
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 3: Just beat him.

905
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 5: I guess the speed just beat him.

906
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

907
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 6: But but was there anything that you took from looking

908
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 6: at the offensive lineman and how they were giving up

909
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 6: these pressures? Uh that were common themes? Uh that you

910
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 6: think the Cowboys really just have to spend some time.

911
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they're dealing with the guy that and you've

912
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: got these long edge rushers that have some speed and

913
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: have a little and then then kind of know how

914
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: to break you down with hands and movement and stuff

915
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: like that. Voch help me with this one body position

916
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: is bad. And and sometimes these defenders will say they

917
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: know a guy like Steel who's played enough. You just

918
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: walk him, you just take him. You just put out.

919
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: The hell is Elijah Gars, I haven't know who he was.

920
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: You put you just put your head in the middle

921
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 2: of his chest and run him right back into the quarterback.

922
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: That's why we had some of these discussions about uh,

923
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: you know about a about Nate Thomas and even when

924
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: you know, I asked Stephen Jones the question on one

925
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: O five three the Fan on Friday, and he was saying, yeah,

926
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: we're these guys are pushing Nate Thomas is pushing for

927
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: you know, so I was kind of glad to hear that.

928
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: But the biggest thing I think, Derek is the power

929
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: these guys when it sometimes the power is a little

930
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: too much. And it looks like to me that Guidon

931
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: has a little bit of trouble when they take him inside.

932
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: That just taking that right foot and just stepping inside

933
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: to keep him from giving giving up that pressure. But

934
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: body position, hands, all these things that break that break

935
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: linemen down. They tend to happen to these tackles especially.

936
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: Also too, like dudes make you over compensate for what

937
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: you really are. You know, you're guiding. You walk out

938
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: there and there's Jealex Hunting, no dispector the Jalex hunt

939
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: He's a pro football player. He's really good at his job.

940
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: But if you're a guid and you have a little

941
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: more confidence versus him than a guy like Brian Burns

942
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: who's known to whoop to whoop feed on the outside

943
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: as far as like slants on the inside, and you know,

944
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: dealing with linebackers, that's another thing Dexter Laurence simply existing

945
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: there could make you miss a linebacker because you're so

946
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: concerned about him moving around on the inside. So it's

947
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: just some Booker and BB just got to get older

948
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: and work on.

949
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

950
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 6: I think one thing that stood out to me was

951
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 6: the twists. They had some some issues at times with

952
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 6: picking up twist twists and.

953
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: They had the last yeah, that it was a problem.

954
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: It was a problem in training camp, and it was

955
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: a problem. It was a problem that it happened even

956
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. And that's a lot of that has to do.

957
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: And now we'll see with the situation at the center spot,

958
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: you know where where that's going to take you too,

959
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: because you might be having a backup playing there.

960
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: Trust Brock hopping for four games, boy, and that's that's

961
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: hopefully that's that's all it is.

962
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 6: But we are hearing reports that it's going to be

963
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 6: a substantial amount of time, uh for for Cooper BB.

964
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 6: But we don't know that for sure yet. The Cowboys

965
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 6: have not given a statement yet. We'll see how that

966
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 6: plays out real quick. I did want to also mention

967
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 6: that it was a part of those pressures to Those

968
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 6: pressures came from Miles Sanders in blitz pick up.

969
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 5: It was a.

970
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 6: Tough as because he was kind of on He was

971
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 6: on the right side, I think in both both instances,

972
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 6: and there was a guy coming from the left and

973
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 6: he had to kind of get all the way over

974
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 6: there and just couldn't get there in time. And the

975
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 6: guy got pressure on the on the quarterback. So there

976
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: was some of that too, But I just think all

977
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 6: the way around there was no I didn't see a

978
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 6: clear this.

979
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 5: Guy was the problem.

980
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: It was.

981
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 6: There were problems throughout, and it was problems from everybody

982
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 6: except for Tyler Smith, which is a good thing. If

983
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 6: you're paying him that much money, you don't want problems there.

984
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 6: But I think there were issues all along that front.

985
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 6: And and I'll be interested to see. I think you're

986
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 6: I agree with you watched that this may just be

987
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 6: one of those matchups where you just kind of have

988
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 6: to manage that and that's why you're happy you come

989
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 6: away with a win because you just figured out how

990
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 6: to do just enough. And quite frankly, I put a

991
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 6: lot of that on your quarterback. Your quarterback as the

992
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 6: game got and went on, he started adapting to the

993
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 6: pressure and he was making plays in spite of the pressure.

994
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: There were some plays though, that some big chunk plays

995
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: that they made where bb was uncovered and peeled back

996
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: and picked up guys up. You know, he was really helpful.

997
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it looked like to me that Dak was

998
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: going to get hit a couple of times and Bbe

999
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: was able to get back and pick up some stuff

1000
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: and help that way. So yeah, I mean, but they hey,

1001
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: they made plays when they had to make plays down

1002
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: that stretch. That was some clutch football when they needed it.

1003
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: Man, I say something, Yeah, this ain't about offensive line,

1004
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: nothing like that. I just didn't want to leave without

1005
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: saying that Kenny Clark, olso dig Zua, and Solomon Thomas

1006
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: played very well.

1007
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 8: Les.

1008
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna talk about that tomorrow. I'm already set

1009
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 5: up for that.

1010
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 6: We're gonna do something call We're gonna do something called

1011
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 6: Shining Stars and Falling Stars when they're about some individual

1012
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 6: players that played well and some players that didn't. But

1013
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 6: I will say this, we are not ending the show

1014
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 6: without taking our hats off. If we had on hats

1015
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 6: to our man, Brandon Aubrey. That man is a beast.

1016
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 5: And when I.

1017
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 6: Say he is a weapon, it's not often you can

1018
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 6: call a kick or a weapon. That man is a

1019
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 6: weapon for this team.

1020
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: They ran a draw play, just set up a sixty

1021
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: four yard field goal.

1022
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: And yeah, and by the way he jumped on the ground,

1023
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 6: he was like, I give myself up, my kicker, come

1024
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 6: on the field.

1025
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: I give myself. They didn't fight to get no.

1026
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: No, It's like.

1027
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 6: How many times did we hear in the in the

1028
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 6: when we were in the locker room after the game,

1029
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 6: they kept saying the same statement, and you get to

1030
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 6: the star, yeah, the kicker like that was They're like,

1031
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 6: if you get to midfield, you are money. And I

1032
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 6: think that is that is a kicker that is unlike

1033
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 6: any kicker I've ever seen the NFL from the standpoint

1034
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 6: of being a true weapon. I think the rules committee

1035
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 6: this next offseason needs to talk about the fact that

1036
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 6: when you get over sixty yards, maybe should be four points,

1037
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 6: Like maybe there should be something more.

1038
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: What's that fantasy football comp I'm just.

1039
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 5: Saying, like there needs to be something more.

1040
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 6: That's not a you're giving me the same amount of

1041
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 6: points for a twenty five yard kick as you do

1042
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 6: for a sixty four yard kick.

1043
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I want more. I got a joke. I

1044
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: always say that if you know it's a touchback or something,

1045
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: you get the ball like the thirty five or whatever.

1046
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: You just need twenty five offensive yards. Yeah, you and

1047
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: field goal range. That's crazy.

1048
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Not having turping in that game

1049
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: late might hurts you a little bit. I mean, I

1050
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: know you got the win, but man, having Toldert having.

1051
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Return, I'm not gonna say nothing bad by.

1052
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: Jai nothing, I'm not.

1053
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 5: I just say because he made he made a play.

1054
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 3: He made that in that game. Give because he missed

1055
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: another one.

1056
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 6: Okay, but he made a play. He made a play

1057
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 6: that they needed when they needed it.

1058
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: We had a discussion on some other show that I

1059
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: was doing. I ain't gonna say where we were because

1060
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's like, do you trust Cede

1061
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: Lamb double covered or do you trust turping one on

1062
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: one because you get the same result if he's if

1063
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: he's single cover. So just throw the ball to CD

1064
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: double cover, right?

1065
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I can ask this the most successful NFL play?

1066
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: This ended here Brandon Aubrey kicking a field long field

1067
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: goal or the toush push, which is a more which

1068
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: is a more devastating play, or or more more, which

1069
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: is the most successful play, the Toush push or the

1070
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: Brandon Aubrey Longfield.

1071
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever seen the Eagles not get

1072
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 6: what they want out of the Toush push.

1073
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Aubrey mister damnfield a long for that matter.

1074
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 5: That's true. He's like, he's so good, so good.

1075
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 6: But that being said, I think the Cowboys realize that

1076
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 6: and at this point one and one oh, I think

1077
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 6: you got to do at this point and figure.

1078
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 5: Out how you're gonna get him paid.

1079
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: Get you're that champ said in the call when you

1080
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: said after it was good, don't pay that guy, don't

1081
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: call don't call Clowny, call time friends, and take care

1082
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 2: of Damn.

1083
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 6: That has to be next on the list as far

1084
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 6: as the Cowboys case. They've given out money at this point,

1085
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 6: I wouldn't getting that line.

1086
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 5: All right, we appreciate you.

1087
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: Guy jumps back and watching Derek You're next.

1088
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: I started to make a joke. I started making a

1089
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: joke about you watching the Texas game. He was tweeting, Yeah,

1090
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: I've thrown everything out remote and my pillows in my house.

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Speaker 3: I didn't tweet, but I started saying, man, I been there,

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Speaker 3: got five thousand dollar pillows at his house. I just

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Speaker 3: didn't tweet it because I know you're a rich man.

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Speaker 3: I do not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a rich man.

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Speaker 3: There is what I got.

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Speaker 6: I got your regular, regular, average, every day pillow.

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Speaker 3: I just slunk.

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Speaker 6: By the way, if I had thousand dollars pillows, they

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Speaker 6: would not be being thrown.

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Speaker 5: My wife wouldn't allow that. Let's just be clear about that.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: I know the paying five interceptions twenty points at l

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Speaker 2: s U tell me about it.

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Speaker 5: It was a day yet, it was a day Saturday.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, I go get into that Cowboys one, Cowboys one.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna stick with that. Provide somebody. Brian brought us

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Speaker 6: some Derek Heils. This has been The Break live on

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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