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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: This week's listener guest, We've got Jenna Harrol on. This

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Speaker 2: has been so much fun talking to you. Guys. Keep

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Speaker 2: sending in your dms to the wind Down Podcast. DM,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you. So until I talk

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Speaker 2: to you, let's get Jenna on. Hello, Jenna, Hey.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good, well, nervous.

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Speaker 2: Do not be nervous like at all? Okay, in the

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Speaker 2: slightest Welcome to wind Down. Hi, so excited to have

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Speaker 2: you on the show. So we got to actually meet

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Speaker 2: last year?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Was it last year? Yeah? November first November? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that was the date.

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Speaker 2: You were at a One Tree Hill convention, right, yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Remind me where you're from again.

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Speaker 1: I live in Chesapeake, Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Virginia, that's right, okay, yep. And then was that your

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Speaker 2: first time going to a conventioner? Had you been to

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Speaker 2: them before?

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Speaker 1: That was my first convention.

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Speaker 3: I had been to Wilmington a couple of times, but

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Speaker 3: never you know, to one of the One Tree Hill events.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jenna, I'm going to ask you a couple questions first,

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Speaker 2: because I'm curious, what were you What were you most

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Speaker 2: nervous about going to a wan Tree Hill convention and

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Speaker 2: then what were you, like, what kind of exceeded your expectation.

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Speaker 3: I guess I was nervous just because there's so many

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Speaker 3: people there, you know, anxiety, just nervous with all the people.

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Speaker 1: But it was very well done.

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Speaker 3: You know. I loved meeting all the casts that I

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Speaker 3: was able to meet. I got to meet you, I

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Speaker 3: got to meet Sophia, so that was pretty cool, and

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Speaker 3: then James and Joy.

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Speaker 2: So is there ever a moment because I'm always curious

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Speaker 2: about this where you you know, there's people that I

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Speaker 2: love that I'm like, I don't want to meet them

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Speaker 2: because I don't want the idea of who I think

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Speaker 2: they are, and then I meet them and then I'm

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Speaker 2: let down.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's always scary. But you were exactly who

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Speaker 3: I thought you would be. And I think that I

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Speaker 3: even sent you a DM later that day or maybe

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Speaker 3: the next day, that everyone in the line for your

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Speaker 3: meet and greats picked your opportunity, and even the autograph line,

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Speaker 3: everyone was saying how nice you are and how kind

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Speaker 3: you are, and that you are exactly who you embody

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Speaker 3: and that calmed my nurse.

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Speaker 1: Well that's very sweet.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I'm sure people have met me on

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Speaker 2: days that I'm like out in the wild and having

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Speaker 2: a real shit day, because that happens too, and that's

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Speaker 2: where I always see. Yeah, I think that's where I've

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Speaker 2: given grace to people that if I hadn't met them

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Speaker 2: and that was not a great interaction, like maybe they

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Speaker 2: were just having a bad day. Because we are all

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Speaker 2: entitled and if someone comes up to them and they're

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Speaker 2: you know, it's that they don't get the embrace that

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Speaker 2: But we all go through it. But anyways, sorry to

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Speaker 2: keep asking you the questions. You're here five me questions.

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Speaker 2: So what what is the burning? Uh questions? Or a

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Speaker 2: couple questions you got?

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Speaker 3: The first one is you know, what are some helpful

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Speaker 3: tips for long distance moving? We actually leave next Wednesday

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Speaker 3: for Florida. Our vacation was booked well in advance back

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Speaker 3: in January. My older son just graduated from high school

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Speaker 3: twenty six, So we were already leaving next Wednesday, but

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Speaker 3: now we're moving at the same time.

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Speaker 2: So you're moving from Virginia. So you've got an eighteen

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Speaker 1: Yep, okay.

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Speaker 2: And then you're how long have you been divorced?

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Speaker 1: For? Four and I got remarried.

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Speaker 2: Last March, last March, and the obviously the ex husband

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Speaker 3: He recently moved back in April, and he is five

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Speaker 2: So the court said you're good to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So then yeah, so your question is how like say

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Speaker 3: Helpful techniques, more so for Roman because he's ten Andrews.

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Speaker 3: not sure exactly about schooling. School starts so much earlier

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is I the last time I

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Speaker 2: But what I will say is we've got we have Well,

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Speaker 2: they're so resilient. They're way more resilient than like we are,

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Speaker 2: Like we're more nervous than they are most of the times.

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Speaker 2: Even just the families that I've met that have moved

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Speaker 2: what I mean. And it's like they're just as long

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Speaker 2: You're very present, and you know, whether it's putting them

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Speaker 2: can meet friends, and then they're like, you get to

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Speaker 2: meet mom friends too. That's the thing because I know, moving,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the hardest part as I'm the adult

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Speaker 2: I think where a lot of like my friendships have

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Speaker 2: that is also like an invitation for you to not

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Speaker 2: for you too. Okay, But and then I just think

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Speaker 2: resiliency in kids. It's there as long as you are

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is like you, they're going to feel that

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Speaker 2: comfort and safety. And I always say wherever, wherever we live,

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Speaker 2: like I don't know if Nashville is going to be

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Speaker 2: dream of a head coaching position somewhere and we'll have

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Speaker 2: to move. But like wherever you are with your kids,

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Speaker 2: like that's home, you know, even on vacations, Like and

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Speaker 2: this is because we're together in this place, like and

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Speaker 2: I know the anxiety of having to move, but I

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Speaker 2: just keep it exciting for them because like they get

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Speaker 2: to make new friends and this is so exciting and like,

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Speaker 2: I mean I had to do that even within the divorce.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you get two homes and two beds

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Speaker 2: you know, and not put my anxiety of like, oh

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It does and I will say it has been very

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Speaker 1: Remind me what you do house cleaning? How's going great?

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Speaker 2: I mean, hey, there's going to be homes there that

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Speaker 2: I feel like that can help the business as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's just it's been really sad to say goodbye

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Speaker 3: to all my clients I've had for four and five years,

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Speaker 1: Truck for you.

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be great. I think

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Speaker 2: like a new move is scary, but it's also like

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Speaker 2: gonna just blossom so much in your soul and I

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Speaker 2: think that's going to give you way less anxiety if

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Speaker 2: you look at like the positive of like what you're

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Speaker 2: leaving behind, And yes, you are leaving people that like

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Speaker 2: the homes and the people there. But like I always think,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, who do I get to meet next that's

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's a good way to look at

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Speaker 2: Like you get to meet a new best friend. How

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Speaker 2: So I think it's great. What else do you got?

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Speaker 2: And he's excited right about the most. Yes, Okay, great, yep.

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Speaker 1: Both of our parents lived there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that's so fun. You got to lead

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, my parents and then his dad and stepmom

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Speaker 2: We're doing that, not this year but next year. Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: when Roman is. I think, you know, like almost four

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Speaker 3: I think we took Roman to his first it was

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Speaker 3: The other question that I had just, you know, some

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Speaker 2: I know nothing about that, Jenna, So I have hostile exes.

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Speaker 1: Do that. Too.

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Speaker 2: that's just where you have to go. Okay, I can't

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Speaker 1: So yes, I try to always say that too. Kids

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Speaker 2: They do. And you're doing a great job. And I'm

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Speaker 1: I hope, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I hope it all goes very smooth. Check in with

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Speaker 2: thank you so much Jenna for coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you yes it see you too. Have a great day,

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Speaker 2: all right, you two girl