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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This is media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders drumping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now

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Speaker 1: your host Knew East Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Mash Let's ride with Clarence Hill the four fur Star Telegram,

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Speaker 2: Johns showed of the athletic I am merely new, he

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Speaker 2: scruggs to help direct the conversation. Okay, gentlemen, A lot

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Speaker 2: of NFC East news happening since we last met. Daniel

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Speaker 2: Snyder is going to get rid of the Washington commanders

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Speaker 2: for six billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: I'm so old. I remember when they approved him, right.

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Speaker 2: It was during a owner's meeting in which LA and

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Speaker 2: UH Houston were fining to try to get expansion franchises,

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Speaker 2: and that wats this little guide and they're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: he just got the Washington franchise by eight hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollars six billion. And then in Philadelphia, Jalen Hurts has

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Speaker 2: a new deal five years, two hundred and fifty five

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Speaker 2: million dollars, one hundred and seventy nine million of that guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: And this is something all Cowboy fans need to pay

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Speaker 2: attention to because Dak Prescott is at some point in

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Speaker 2: time going to have to get extended as well.

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Speaker 3: So our thoughts about Jalen Hurts Koster good.

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Speaker 4: For Jalen Hurts. I mean, you know, here's a guy

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Speaker 4: and everybody knows his story. Bench at Alabama, uh for

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Speaker 4: Tua in a championship game, you know, transferred Oklahoma, remade

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Speaker 4: himself as a quarterback, picked the second round by the Eagles,

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Speaker 4: struggled as a starter, came into last season, well, people

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Speaker 4: didn't know if he had a future.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: It was of course that he has to prove himself.

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Speaker 4: And one reason why most people picked the Cowboys over

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Speaker 4: the Eagles because the questions of about the Eagles at

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Speaker 4: quarterback and for him to have the year he did,

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Speaker 4: you know, you know, running up the MVP, take the

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Speaker 4: team to the Super Bowl, Pro Bowl. I'll pro all

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Speaker 4: of that, and to get paid his first year Brovo

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Speaker 4: to you, I.

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Speaker 5: Agree with all that.

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Speaker 6: I was just gonna add that I think it's the

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Speaker 6: off season that they had a year ago. I think

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Speaker 6: a deal like this will make it more difficult to

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Speaker 6: do those off seasons going forward. Howie Rosman's great about

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Speaker 6: adding talent, you know, trades, things like that, signing guys.

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Speaker 6: When you pay your franchise quarterback money like that, it's

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Speaker 6: gonna limit some of those moves. You weren't gonna be

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Speaker 6: able to have another off season like that. So they

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Speaker 6: do have a lot of draft capital, though I'm not

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Speaker 6: saying that. I mean, this Eagles team is certainly there,

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Speaker 6: but it is. It's gonna make it more difficult for

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Speaker 6: them to maneuver a little bit. But yeah, if you're

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Speaker 6: a Cowboys fan, this is this is big. Like you

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Speaker 6: tweet like I tweeted out and I know you did too,

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Speaker 6: about how you know this impacts DK contract and you

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Speaker 6: get people talking about like, no, it doesn't, he hasn't

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Speaker 6: been to a super Bowl, Like yeah, that doesn't really matters.

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Speaker 5: Just the next line. And I wanted to bring up.

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Speaker 6: This because I knew we would talk about it, because

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Speaker 6: I'm interested to hear your guys take on this. Like,

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Speaker 6: you know, I understand that some people look at it

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Speaker 6: and like every day that goes by, it'd be like yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 6: no extension for Dak, no extension for Dak.

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Speaker 5: Whatever. I kind of look at.

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Speaker 6: From if I'm DAK and I see that, I'm like, no,

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Speaker 6: let's just wait this out. I want to see I

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Speaker 6: want to see Herbert sign. I want to see Joe

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Speaker 6: this keep going up.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I'm not necessarily like telling my agent, hey, we need

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Speaker 6: to look. Look, look, look he got fifty one million

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Speaker 6: to get fifty two.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 6: I would be like, no, no, no, I'll play through this season.

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Speaker 6: Let's see what happens, because that market just gonna get

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Speaker 6: crazier and crazier. You don't think like Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 6: Justin Herbert, they don't see fifty one and they're like

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Speaker 6: I need fifty one. No, they see fifty one, They're like,

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Speaker 6: I need fifty five. So this is just the beginning

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Speaker 4: Oh, no, no doubt. But you know, I do like

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Speaker 4: the fact that the colon shout out the colon Hurt's

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Speaker 4: agent Universit Oklahoma Delta, first black agent, female agent to

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Speaker 4: sign a the first female agent to sign a MESSOD

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Speaker 4: deal like this, richest quadrick ever signed by a female agent.

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Speaker 4: I shout out to her, but they went quietly. You know,

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Speaker 4: there was no talk, there was no agg were starting negotiations.

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Speaker 4: Hey we're back and forth. Bam this morning. Deal done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But I think with all that stuff, it's credit to

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Speaker 5: both sides, and no.

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Speaker 4: I agree, I'm in correcting both sides, and maybe that's

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Speaker 4: you know, I know when we talked to Steven at

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Speaker 4: the only that's what he wants to do. He wants

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Speaker 4: he doesn't want any public negotiations. They Hey, tomorrow happened,

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Speaker 4: may may happen tomorrow?

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Speaker 5: Can can that happen with the Cowboys?

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Speaker 4: Because they like because Jerry like talking that never happened.

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Speaker 4: But uh, but getting back what you're saying, because I've

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Speaker 4: had people tell me I talked to another reporter where

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Speaker 4: I'm not paying that until they take the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 4: You know. It's like, so, if Hurts never goes back

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Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl, is a contract worth it?

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Speaker 6: Well, obviously not, but most of these contracts aren't. When

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Speaker 6: you look back, the best players are and they're getting

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Speaker 6: paid for what they've done.

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Speaker 4: Talking about the Cowboy fan the people that put these arbitrary, well,

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Speaker 4: you can't get paid unless you go to the super

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Speaker 4: Bowl or you go to the championship game. That's that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: We heard these things about Tony one and and people

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Speaker 2: are trying to put these questions. Well when you know

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Speaker 2: when Eli went to two super Bowls and like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: this is not how it works.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, because it's not a one man thing.

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Speaker 4: Number one.

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Speaker 2: This is this is like the housing market in Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 2: And I used to drive by Beverly Hills all the time,

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Speaker 2: and guys, I never saw sign that said liquidation, never

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Speaker 2: saw sign it said they all use is for sale,

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Speaker 2: and it was going to Prices just went up and

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Speaker 2: up and up because it was Beverly Hills. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be able to make any more. Beverly Hills

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Speaker 2: were extended. Wanted you wanted a house here, you had

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Speaker 2: to pay the freight. You want a quarterback, and you

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Speaker 2: have a good quarterback, You're going to pay the freight.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things I consistently say to people,

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Speaker 2: if Kirk Cousins keeps getting paid, everybody else won't get paid.

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Speaker 6: So well, that's see, that's the thing. Like you talk

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Speaker 6: about the housing market in Beverly Hills, there are. There's

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Speaker 6: just a large number of people that make really good

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Speaker 6: going to be short on those options. Whereas the quarterback market,

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Speaker 6: there's thirty two NFL teams, there's not thirty two franchise quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: There might not be twenty franchise quarterbacks. And so when

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Speaker 6: you have one, then you're just in that game that

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Speaker 6: well and when it comes up hey no.

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Speaker 5: No, hey, no one's forcing you don't pay him.

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Speaker 6: Don't pay him, and then and then see what happens.

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Speaker 6: Then go find find your next to see what.

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Speaker 4: Happens, and he will get paid by some I like

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Speaker 4: the I like the other market analogy because you live

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Speaker 4: in Calaville, right, you know different between the houses the

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Speaker 4: and the money is different.

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Speaker 5: You know how many minute drive are we talking between

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Speaker 4: Across the street? Across the street.

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Speaker 2: You've been a Dragon Stadium or South the grape Vine

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Speaker 2: Callieville Stadium is right, it's across the street. It's across

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Speaker 2: across the railroad track. It is literally there.

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Speaker 4: Seriously less than a mile away.

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Speaker 2: No, it ain't even a mile, bro I said, Ye's

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Speaker 2: it's not even a quarterma.

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Speaker 4: You can see it. You can see it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I just remember when I came down here in

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Speaker 6: like like eleven, I remember there was like that strike.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't a strike, but it was a little bit

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Speaker 6: more like a lock. I remember the Cowboys are prexicing

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Speaker 2: When Mark Colombo told guys, if we're not we're not

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Speaker 2: talking to even like you're not even gonna be on

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Speaker 2: the team, right.

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Speaker 3: Dragon Stadium. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so what I what I'm saying is, uh,

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Speaker 4: does every quarterback have to be sounded like and some

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Speaker 4: of them be he man, look at that.

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Speaker 2: I just I just look at the these parameters where

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Speaker 2: people you have to do X Y Z in order

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Speaker 2: to get it, you know, or show me go to

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Speaker 2: super Bowl, then I'll give you what you want. That's

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Speaker 2: not how it works. It's just not how it works.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's been in Super Bowl, Justin Herbert's not. But

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Speaker 2: you don't but don't think for any reason that Justin

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Speaker 2: Herbert's not getting get a contract that is very similar

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Speaker 2: to that it's just not it's just not hot. Fans

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Speaker 2: don't want to, right, Fans just don't want to They

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Speaker 3: To hear that.

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Speaker 6: My big thing with all of that is, I always

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Speaker 6: don't follow sports like we do, and they'll see a

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Speaker 6: contract like the Jalen Hurts. I haven't heard anything today,

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Speaker 6: but I'm sure I'll hear from I can't believe they

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Speaker 5: At least you get to see what they do.

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Speaker 6: Why do you care if the owner makes more money

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Speaker 6: that the owner's not going anywhere, So why wouldn't you

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Speaker 6: want someone that's on the field making the money. Like

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Speaker 6: That's my whole thing about, Like, why do you care

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Speaker 6: that like that he's making all that money. He clearly

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Speaker 6: stepped up his game, you know last year going into

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Speaker 6: the season, that was the biggest difference. That's why most

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Speaker 6: people picked the Cowboys to win the division was because

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Speaker 6: oh they got Dak He's better than Jalen Hurts. That's

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Speaker 6: what it comes down to. Better quarterback. Jalen Hurts considerably

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Speaker 6: improved his game. Now he had a lot of talent

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Speaker 6: around him, but he considerably improved his game, and you

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Speaker 6: look at the Super Bowl and the way he played

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Speaker 6: even in that game, arguably the MVP he did he didn't.

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Speaker 4: And just to pick it back and what you said,

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Speaker 4: I know we're gonna get on to wash it in

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Speaker 4: a minute, but it is funny because fans, working class

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Speaker 4: people were all there. You have to earn this, You

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Speaker 4: have to earn you know, you have to earn this.

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Speaker 4: How what did Dan's start to earn? Getting going from

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Speaker 4: seven hundred and fifty million and six billion dollars eight

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Speaker 4: hundred eight hundred million.

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Speaker 5: You don't need to tell me about and running it down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a lesser franchise that it was.

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Speaker 2: He had a list of people trying to get season tickets,

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Speaker 2: had a waiting.

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Speaker 4: List, The stadium is horrible, everything else, and he makes

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Speaker 4: six billion.

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Speaker 3: Dollars tarp on the stadium.

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Speaker 2: You know, me, think about every time I stopped going

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Speaker 2: The problem for the Cowboys, and we discussed it last year.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna take weapons.

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Speaker 2: Away, and now you prove you're worth that much, expecting well,

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Speaker 4: No, that's not how it worked well. And and again

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Speaker 4: it's a great analogy because Dak it hurts her more

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Speaker 2: This was a miscalculation as a management team to under Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, you want to take away Tyreek Hill. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Andy Reid knows Patrick Mahomes can go and make other

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Speaker 3: He's that.

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Speaker 2: But they're not that many dudes like that in the game.

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Speaker 4: There are very few. When that guy four years one sixty,

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Speaker 6: But also you can't judge what they did with Jalen

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts is just got it now. So no, the

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Speaker 9: To that.

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Speaker 4: One pointer are similar. You have to put people around them.

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Speaker 4: You cannot take weapons away from and that's why how

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Speaker 4: I think they realized that. I think you know, just

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Speaker 4: Pollard is still rehaving but you know they're they're move

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00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,400
Speaker 4: went on, you know, without Ezekie Yellen and the rest

438
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 4: of the Cowboys that here getting ready for the new seasons.

439
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 4: New officeason program, new coaching staff, these altered coaching staff,

440
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:14,160
Speaker 4: running back, new philosophies, new running backs, coach, everything else,

441
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 4: especially I mean offensively, it's a big deal. You know,

442
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,160
Speaker 4: because they're changing a lot of things that they've done

443
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 4: in the past, and you know, uh, I see where

444
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 4: it goes.

445
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 6: I do think it's interesting that on social media, even

446
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,439
Speaker 6: seeing all these pictures lately from Dak working out at

447
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 6: his house and Ezekiel Elliott's over there. I mean, I

448
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 6: know that they're obviously real tight, but it's just you

449
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 6: don't see that from a lot of other players when

450
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 6: you know part ways with the team usually, especially when

451
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 6: you look at those pictures, a lot of them is

452
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 6: like Semi Fajoco, you know, uh, Jalen Tolbert, other guys

453
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 6: that are on the team and things like that. So

454
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 6: just it's interesting and it just it speaks also to

455
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 6: you know that it wasn't that Dak was like when

456
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 6: we saw him at that the Cancer.

457
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 5: Foundation thing, it was visibly her. Yeah, that certainly bothered

458
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 5: him for sure.

459
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 4: Now nobody follows social media and better than John Shoulders.

460
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 4: So I'm just wanted to record show so that you

461
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 4: see Brandon Cooks over there, that's why I seen him,

462
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 4: and you've seen Zeke in the pictures. Let me know,

463
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,719
Speaker 4: when you see Cooks over there at Deck's house working out,

464
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 4: that's what that's what needs to be there. I mean,

465
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 4: I love Zike there and I think if Zike had

466
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 4: signed with other team and be different, he may not

467
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 4: have been there, maybe with his other teammates or something

468
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 4: like that. It's been on a day like today when

469
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 4: most people are starting off season programs and getting ready

470
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 4: to do that. So Zeke is still, you know, tweeting

471
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 4: out his his workout. He's still working out with his

472
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 4: trainer and showing his you know, he's still spry and

473
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 4: got some juice. But let me know when Brandon Cooks

474
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 4: is over there at Deck's house.

475
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Speaker 2: So let me ask this question because I lived through

476
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 2: this one and it was very interesting how how it

477
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 2: ended up working out and to the to the betterment

478
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 2: of both players. When the Mavericks alive, Steve Nash to

479
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 2: go to Phoenix. So now the team for Dirk is

480
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 2: nor more. Finley, best friend Nash is gone, best friend

481
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: goes and wins the MVP. The next two years in

482
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 2: Phoenix put this oute of the playoffs, but Dirk became

483
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: the leader, became the legend he is, but he had

484
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: to lose his best friend. Was not happy with the organization.

485
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: The head coach wasn't happy with the organization. When you

486
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 2: say Dak is visible, was visibly you know, hurt by

487
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 2: his by him being it. Do you think this helps

488
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 2: him he goes on journey.

489
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Speaker 4: Well, I think the difference is that Dk is all

490
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: with the leader here, and I think I think to

491
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 4: a certain that Dirk was a leader then because he

492
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 4: was a I mean, Nash was great, he was best friend,

493
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 4: but but Dirk was the top pick. He was the

494
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 4: focal point of the franchise. They were just best friends.

495
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 4: And really Nash didn't come into his own until he left.

496
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 4: We didn't know Nash was gonna be that player now.

497
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 4: He wasn't that player in Dallas to a certain extent,

498
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 4: so I think the dynamics were different. But does this

499
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 4: help Dak? Yeah, I think it helps him to a

500
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 4: certain extent because I think it makes him hone in.

501
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 4: I think it makes him more focus, not that he

502
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: again I don't question work as it or anything like that,

503
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 4: but we all could use a little more fire, a

504
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 4: little more focus, whatever else. I think this certainly makes

505
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 4: him more honey. And he talked about that at the

506
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 4: thing we talked. We talked about you know, this shows

507
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 4: you he's not for long and everything else and so

508
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 4: this makes him more hungry. If there's a word I

509
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 4: can say.

510
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Speaker 6: The only only thing I stopped from comparing it to

511
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 6: like a Dirk or Lucas situation is no offense to

512
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 6: the Dallas Mavericks. But are there, I mean Dallas Cowboys quarterback.

513
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 6: That's like the position that you want to be in

514
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 6: all sports Yankee shortstop, Dallas Cowboys quarterback. So at the

515
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 6: same time, yeah, you can be upset, but like I

516
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 6: can see like a Dirk being upset, especially in today's era,

517
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 6: being like, you know, the big talks. Oh, you know,

518
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 6: if they don't start building something good, Luca's gonna want

519
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 6: to leave. They could have said at that time, well, hey,

520
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 6: you just got rid of Ash, Dirk might want to leave. No,

521
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 6: one's not trying to be the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. So yes,

522
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 6: he could be upset that his friend's gone. But it's

523
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 6: not like he's gonna be like, all right, when this

524
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 6: contract's up, I'm out here. It's like nobody is doing that,

525
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 6: Like everybody wants to be the Dallas Cowboys.

526
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 5: Court and they do.

527
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 4: And secondly, there's no expectations. I mean, let's be honest,

528
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 4: I mean the expectations with the maverigsperently. At that time,

529
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 4: we hadn't won, ever won anything, you know, we would.

530
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 4: They were just happen to be in the playoffs, and

531
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: everybody was happy to have a team root for when

532
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 4: the Cowboys season was over. You know, let's go have

533
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 4: a good time at reunion. Let's go with the good

534
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 4: time of aac. But the pressure expectations is not nearly

535
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 4: the same.

536
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 6: No, But I mean it is an interesting topic because

537
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 6: it is a popular one right now in Dallas.

538
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 5: The whole Luca they're not.

539
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 6: And it just fascinating is if he's on the Dallas Cowboys,

540
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 6: they're not talking about we gotta put these pieces because

541
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 6: Lucas gonna Luca's not trying to leave the DALs Cowboys.

542
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 5: If he's on the Dallas Cowboys.

543
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: This isn't about leaving.

544
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 6: It's just about Oh I thought that's where you met, Like, oh,

545
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 6: you don't want to make him upside he wants somebody.

546
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just talking him being frustrated. If it's

547
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: good for him to take it to the next level,

548
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: like Dirk did what he said, and I think I

549
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 4: think there's some part of that.

550
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, but again, getting this team to a

551
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 6: super Bowl is his biggest motivation.

552
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 5: Whatever he takes to get there.

553
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 6: He yeah, he'll be upset and and and yes that's

554
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 6: his good friend and things like that, but ultimately he

555
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 6: wants that on his resume that he led the Dallas Cowboys.

556
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. And one of the things is that the reality

557
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: of the NFL we all know is not like basketball

558
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: is not for long. I mean when quarterbacks played longer

559
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: than running back, there was always there was always gonna

560
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 4: be a time when Zeke was no longer part of

561
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: the team and Dag Goes still be here. That that

562
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 4: that's all that that's always going It's always going to

563
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 4: be the case. That's yeah, that that day was always coming.

564
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: You wanted to hop back in the Washington.

565
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the This is bad news for the Cowboys.

566
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 6: This is this is really bad. This is some of

567
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 6: the worst news that's happened for the Cowboys in a while.

568
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 6: And the reason I say this is because that organization

569
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 6: in Washington has been dormant for a long time, and

570
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 6: that is a that thing can be quickly turned into

571
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 6: a premier franchise again, but with the right ownership, and

572
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 6: you don't want that in your division. You want that

573
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 6: to be like you said, and there were years where

574
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 6: that they were on the schedule. You're like, I'm not

575
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 6: going to Washington. The last thing you want is them

576
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 6: to turn back into the Joe Gibbs Washington Well Redskins

577
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 6: at the time commanders. Now you don't want that. And

578
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 6: if you bring in Magic Johnson new ownership group that's

579
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 6: trying to do things the right way, I don't know.

580
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 6: The last one was trying to do things the right way,

581
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden you get that going. Do

582
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 6: you want another really good franchise in your vision? It's better,

583
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 6: as bad as things are on the surface, for the

584
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 6: NFL to have hit the Daniel Snyder there. You would

585
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 6: rather them be in that situation. We're like, yeah, well

586
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 6: we got them on the schedule twice a year, that's perfect.

587
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean just because the Eagles where they're run,

588
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 4: have become the best organization in the East right for

589
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: the last ten fifteen years, back to the mcnabery when

590
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: they won those four straight title, no one went back

591
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: to back to the thing. I mean, yeah, they consistently

592
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 4: the Eagles have been the best team. Yeah, because the

593
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 4: way they're run and because the way.

594
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 5: They have been to two Super Bowls. Yeah, well three

595
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 5: if you count.

596
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: All of that. You know, And and where are the Cowboys?

597
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 5: Where's Washington the talent Washington?

598
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 6: The Cowboys are the bright shining star at the top

599
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 6: of the hill compared to Washington.

600
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: No, but said, we already know watching.

601
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 6: Washington has a brand that can be one of the tops,

602
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 6: and they're performing like the Detroit I'm.

603
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 4: With you what I'm saying, we already know Washing it

604
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 4: has been trash. I'm talking about the fact that he's not.

605
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 6: Just being trash. I'm saying that they have the chance.

606
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 6: They're an organization that couldn't run.

607
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: That's I'm agreeing with you that the Eagles have already

608
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 4: passed the Cowboys and how they run the organization and

609
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 4: success now a well won Washington has a chance to

610
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: do that too. The Cowboys don't get on the good foot.

611
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

612
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what role Magic will have here. If

613
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: it's like the Dodgers, then then that'll be good. But

614
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: if Magic is involved like he was with the Lakers,

615
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: then Washington won't be good.

616
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: Because Magic is an executive. He was not good. Magic

617
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: Johnson's head coach was not good.

618
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 6: So I don't think they're gonna let him take players,

619
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 6: but they'll help them get a new stadium, and that's

620
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 6: going to be a great start.

621
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at Josh Harris, who's with the Sixers, and

622
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: and and the Devils, and uh, those organizations are are good.

623
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: There's no championships, so.

624
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: We'll we'll see.

625
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: This is a hard business, no matter who comes in it,

626
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: it is a hard business. And when you own multiple teams,

627
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: the interesting thing is how do you manage because you're

628
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: talking about now three teams in three different states, how

629
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: do you manage it? How do you get it done?

630
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: Who do you put in place here? The biggest issue

631
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: for them is really getting a stadium, trying to get

632
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: back into d C, get an r K which we

633
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: all drive by as we go for the new place.

634
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: So there's there's some financial things that they gotta they

635
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: gotta get to and let's see how they do it

636
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: and how the NFL works with them. Nobody in DC,

637
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: Maryland or Virginia wanted to work with Dana Sneyder right.

638
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: But they wanted. But now that they have a new ownership,

639
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: they will work with them. The stories about that and

640
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: and and that's the thing about it. Once they will

641
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: get a new stadium, that that's gonna happen. It's it's

642
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: just a matter of where. And the question is who're

643
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 4: you gonna put it in places? Is GM to run his franchises.

644
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about him running, but he has

645
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: a good GM in Philly with the Eagle, I mean,

646
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: with with with the Sixers. They put it together, they're

647
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 4: doing Okay.

648
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: You're getting credit to Maury or Moury Brand or morri Okay,

649
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: and what's he won in his lifetime?

650
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody can't win, but they I.

651
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 5: Just think it's funny.

652
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 6: But you keep think I gotta, I gotta, I gotta

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Speaker 6: graph in.

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Speaker 3: I think I just think Jail Morry is a really

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Speaker 6: I'm just picturing this graph in my mind with all

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Speaker 6: of I don't really follow the NHL, so it's in

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Speaker 6: my mind it's all the MLB teams, all the NBA teams,

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Speaker 6: and all the NFL teams, And you guys are talking

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Speaker 6: about being critical of where Philly's hat Philly Adiot's worst

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Speaker 6: is in the middle of all that. Washington is so

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Speaker 6: far at the bottom. Even if they get in the

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Speaker 6: middle of the pack and you're the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: You don't want that.

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Speaker 6: Now, every every time you play him, it's gonna be

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Speaker 6: at least decent that used to be. I mean, I've

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Speaker 6: covered the team since twenty eleven. I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 6: this right now. Other than that year with where RG

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Speaker 5: Like we serious with this? Is this a real rivalry?

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Speaker 5: What a big game?

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Speaker 6: I told my bosses multiple times at the Dallas Morning

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Speaker 6: it was Washington and they would be like, come on, John,

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Speaker 6: it's a division game.

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Speaker 5: You gotta go.

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Speaker 4: I go.

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Speaker 5: It's awful.

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Speaker 6: They suck. Nobody wants to go there. I think those

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Speaker 6: days are gone. I'm not saying that they're gonna turn

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Speaker 6: into one of the top teams in the NFL, but

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Speaker 6: if you even get them into just middle of the

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 6: I mean, maybe maybe they go to get a Super

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Speaker 6: Bowl team like once every ten fifteen years or something

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Speaker 6: like that that is tremendously.

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Speaker 5: Better than what it's been the last twenty years.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: And I say that having watched the Haslms take over

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Speaker 3: Didn't go that way.

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Speaker 2: David Tepper was also a minority owner with the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: and people in Carolina at the gay man He's went

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Speaker 2: with them, and we'll have some we'll have good coaches

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Speaker 2: had turned out that way.

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Speaker 6: So I just say, don't you think there's more energy

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm I'm a guy.

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Speaker 2: When you say that, I tamper down expectations because it, yes,

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Speaker 3: It's historically yes, okay, I don't think it'll.

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Speaker 2: Get worse, but but at the same time that, hey,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have on the Clippers.

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Speaker 6: They're better than they're the best, They're the best they've

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Speaker 4: Team in LA. Right now, they're better, they're they're better

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Speaker 3: But the winning and the things that it's.

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Speaker 6: And then I'm saying that they're about to be one

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Speaker 4: It's hard. It's hard to win, exactly, It's hard to win.

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Speaker 2: He scrudged along with Cowboy insiders Clan till the foot

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Speaker 3: Got a new play caller, run the ball more.

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Speaker 5: What are you doing.

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Speaker 4: Time offseason program too? Yeah, I'm starting my stretches.

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Speaker 3: By self yourself.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's been it's been obviously little change. I

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Speaker 4: mean it's just you know, just starting from that that

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Speaker 4: rid of Kellen Moore and installed himself as a play caller.

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Speaker 4: And it's just from that point on you you the

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Speaker 4: the trades for Gilmore, the trade for Cooks, the departure

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Speaker 4: of Zeke Elliott. This is a new day, new seasons.

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Speaker 3: Change.

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Speaker 2: The National Football League is about you. It is, And

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys. I'd always felt that

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy wanted to call plays, but in order to

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Speaker 2: get the job, Jones is like Kellen Moore, you had

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Speaker 2: to let it ride until you get to the point

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Speaker 2: in time where hey man, it's gonna be You know,

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Speaker 2: if I'm gonna not be here, I'm gonna be here

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Speaker 2: going down calling.

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Speaker 4: Do you trust him as the play call Do you

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Speaker 4: trust that they will be better offense? Little? Because I

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Speaker 4: think the biggest part of the decision is that we

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Speaker 4: are a defensive team. Defense are best part of our team.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna rely on our defense. We'll get better on defense.

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Speaker 4: We got Gilmore strict than this defense.

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Speaker 6: I don't think though, I honestly don't think they'll be better.

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Speaker 6: I think they'll be close to what they were and

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Speaker 6: I think that it might pay off some dividends in

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Speaker 6: the playoffs. Maybe maybe I just think of his experience

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Speaker 6: that's probably a positive when you get to the postseason.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think that Mike McCarthy takes over the

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Speaker 6: offense and all of a sudden, you're just like, well,

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Speaker 6: why wasn't Kellen Moore doing all this stuff? Like it

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Speaker 6: wasn't like it was a bad offense with Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 6: It's not like he's taking over where you're just like, man,

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Speaker 6: this thing was it was a dumpster fire. They had

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Speaker 6: to move another direction. So I don't I just I know,

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Speaker 6: I'm also one of these people were in pro sports.

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Speaker 6: I probably lean a little bit more towards the players

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Speaker 6: than I do the coaches, because the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: like when you're Dak Prescott, you've been playing as long

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Speaker 6: as he has, Like you're on the field, you're the

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Speaker 6: one that's got to get it done. You know, you're

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Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb, you're Zach Martin, you're tired. You guys got

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Speaker 6: to get it done. So you know he's gonna run

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Speaker 6: plays that are best fit for guys that he's been

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Speaker 6: around for several years now.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know that statistically it'll be.

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Speaker 6: A better offense, but I don't think it's gonna be

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Speaker 6: I don't think it'll be bad. I think it'll be

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Speaker 6: probably pretty solid. And then at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: even if they don't win as many games they did

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Speaker 6: last year, it's gonna be judged on what they do

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Speaker 6: in the playoffs. And so is experience in a playoff

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Speaker 6: game calling plays that could be a good thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the Jacksonville game which we

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Speaker 2: were both all three of us were at and so

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Speaker 2: here the Cowboys up twenty seven to ten in this game.

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Speaker 2: Then Jacksonville gets the ball. Three plays, they go and score.

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Speaker 2: So now is a twenty one to seventeen game. Cowboys

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Speaker 2: get the ball back two plays, eight yards, one minute,

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Speaker 2: four seconds off the clock. Jacksonville gets the ball back touchdown.

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Speaker 2: In four plays. Cowboys get the ball three plays, four yards,

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Speaker 2: two oh six. Jacksonville gets the ball back touchdown. Now

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Speaker 2: they're up thirty one to twenty seven. Cowboys get the ball,

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Speaker 2: they go thirteen plays, seventy five yards, seven minutes and

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Speaker 2: seven seconds.

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Speaker 3: There now in the lead thirty four thirty one. Cowboys

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Speaker 3: get the ball.

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Speaker 2: I mean Jacksonville gets the ball, they fumble it, all right,

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Speaker 2: they fumble the ball and Dallas is up thirty four

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Speaker 2: to thirty one. And then what did the Cowboys do

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Speaker 2: with that? Because at that point in time, you and

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Speaker 2: I are down in together thinking, okay, they got this dune. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: three plays, no yards, twenty seven second drive. And then

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Speaker 2: of course we know Jacksonville went down that got the

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Speaker 2: field goal and they won it novers. And for me

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Speaker 2: and you go back and kind of do some of

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Speaker 2: the play by play at the Green Bay game. That's

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Speaker 2: where I think Mike McCarthy points to and about Kellen

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Speaker 2: Moore and you have people that well, the or top

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Speaker 2: ten offense was just this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Situationally, you can't have it.

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Speaker 4: You gotta lead.

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Speaker 3: We can't have a three play drive. Probably take off

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Speaker 3: no time. They probably played that game Jacksonville.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, the problem in that game was Zeke was heard. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the problem is the corner. The other corner spot was bad.

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Speaker 4: Right, But but they knew that they were experimenting so quick.

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Speaker 4: They're experimenting on deal. They talked about it, were experimenting

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Speaker 4: on defense, getting ready to play.

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Speaker 6: His point though, if you run a little bit you

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Speaker 6: can have a little bit more success, get a couple

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Speaker 6: first downs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're out of there.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that that all right.

871
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Speaker 6: I just hate judging stuff like that because it's like, okay,

872
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 6: then that's the act, Like, okay, so there were no

873
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 6: games they won because Kellen Moore's game plan, you know

874
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like, so I just think it kind

875
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 6: of probably evens out, Like so, yeah, you can sit

876
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: there and say, yeah, Mike calls the plays against green

877
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 6: Bay calls him against situation right right right now, And

878
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 6: I get that, but I'm just saying that. But then

879
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 6: also maybe you're losing some stuff that maybe Mike doesn't

880
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 6: want to do that Kellen does.

881
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: That helped them win a couple of games.

882
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 6: You know, maybe I think they're gonna be right about

883
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 6: what they were last year when the regular season ends.

884
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: So for me, the thing that I find ironic about

885
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: Mike and how Jerry finally got to this point is

886
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: remember when Wade got here, Wade went call him defensive plays.

887
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: Brian Stewart was and He's like, well, I brought you

888
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: here to do this, so you do it. Why wouldn't

889
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: you You've brought in a guy who won a Super

890
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: Bowl calling plays. Why would you not want to do

891
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: this other than there's still this We don't want to

892
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: let a guy we think is the next Chempayton get

893
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: out the building.

894
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: When you say, why are you talking about it?

895
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 6: From Jerry's perspective, from Mike's Jerry's Jerry's perspective of what

896
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 6: I can see being sold on the whole like nucleus,

897
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 6: going back to the friends thing, Uh, you know with

898
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 6: Dad and Zeeke, the whole. Well, you know, we've had

899
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 6: this together and this has all kind of been a

900
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 6: culmination of Dak continuing to get better, continue to get better.

901
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 6: I feel like it was a Dak thing that that

902
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 6: Jerry thought it would be best. Hey, let's just keep

903
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 6: building on this. Him and Kelen are close. They see

904
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 6: things similarly. Let's keep building on this. This is going

905
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 6: to get us over the top.

906
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: But why, Okay, this is okay, Yes I want this,

907
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: but I'm not bringing in John in to do what

908
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: John does.

909
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's it.

910
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: It's in business.

911
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 5: Wouldn't do that, I think, But but.

912
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: But this is what they do, and I think they

913
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: I think it hurt.

914
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 6: But I think he also felt like, hey, well now

915
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 6: we got this guy in Mike McCarthy, who has been

916
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 6: to the mountaintop. He has an offensive background. He can

917
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 6: also help Kellen take him to the next level that

918
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 6: maybe you know, he maxed out what he learned from

919
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 6: Lenahan and Garrett and so now you bring in Mike McCarthy,

920
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 6: he can add some more stuff and then to your point,

921
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 6: maybe become what he thinks.

922
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 13: He was in a lab in the bar and Wisconsin. Yeah,

923
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 13: I mean, it didn't make any sense. And I hear

924
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 13: what you're saying, and that's what Mike said. You know,

925
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 13: they had just being together to know his point. You're

926
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 13: bringing Mike here because he's a super Bowl winning coach.

927
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 13: He was super Bowl winning coach as an offensive coordinator

928
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 13: head coach, and you're not bringing him to do what

929
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 13: he does best, and he's comparing it to Wade. You

930
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 13: bring Wade in here because of his defensive acumen.

931
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: He's one of the best three four defense coordinators on

932
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: the planet and he comes here in Braan Stewards called

933
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: him plays. He's not called him plays. That doesn't make

934
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 4: any sense.

935
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 6: There is a little bit of sense though, because again

936
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 6: you mentioned the business side of it. Am operating in

937
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 6: the business side of say, aside from football, in his

938
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 6: everyday life, Terry Jones, I could also see him thinking

939
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 6: that over that period with Jason Garrett that he might

940
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 6: have felt like the walk around head coach was more

941
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 6: of the way to go. We can disagree with it,

942
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 6: but I'm saying I'm wondering, or I'm not wondering. I

943
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 6: bet that that he felt like this would probably be

944
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 6: a good idea.

945
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 4: Again, that's the problem with Jerry though, you know, because

946
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: he's so wishy wash washing, right, and and the problem

947
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 4: is that you don't decide what's best for your coach,

948
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 4: you know, you let your coach do what's best true

949
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: and and that, and that's what he's trying to say.

950
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 4: You don't decide, Well, you need to be walking around

951
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 4: there because yes we we we believe you know, every

952
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 4: no one wants to say it out loud, and and

953
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: certainly Mike McCarthy will say that I wanted Kellen here,

954
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 4: but we're sure we know that Kellen was here at

955
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: the best of Jerry Jones.

956
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: Dendro. You know what they're doing with Sean Pagne, Come

957
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: on in here, call these plays. Do what you do.

958
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: And how many times have people looked at the coaching

959
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: records of Sean and Mike and talked about them being

960
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: kind of right there, and they and the same super bowls.

961
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's the thing I didn't get And

962
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 2: and anyway, this is this is just stuff that hey,

963
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: it's it's the Cowboys and how they operate.

964
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: We know that Jerry is is.

965
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: He likes having certain guys around, and he pushes for

966
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: certain people, and it is these coaches come in here

967
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: sometimes we see some of the same assistant coach, we

968
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: see some of the same staff behind the scenes. And

969
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: I just feel like Mike McCarthy was brought here and

970
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: he comes to go, I was gonna hire killing Moore

971
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: that I just feel like he just told us something

972
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: that sounded good. Because if I'm bringing in a guy

973
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: who's coached, who's been able to coach two guys that

974
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: are Hall of Fame level and win a Super Bowl,

975
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 2: I want that guy. Go bring me that secret sauce?

976
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: Could you get in? You go cook this meal. Don't

977
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: tell me man Kellen's cooking, And I'm just give him some.

978
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm just giving some mushroom. Tell him what to do,

979
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: you cook it. You go give me what you've.

980
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 6: Got but maybe maybe like when you say about the

981
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 6: Sean Payne thing, maybe he was more dug in on

982
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: that as opposed to maybe Mike McCarthy wasn't It doesn't

983
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 6: sound like Mike McCarthy was as dug in and I'm

984
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 6: calling the plays immediately. Yes, it was part of the hey,

985
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 6: I want the job, but also the fact of I'm

986
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 6: sure he was fine with kind of like, well, I'll

987
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 6: be more of the overseeing everything. I'll bring it things

988
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 6: that I learned from Green Bay, uh, you know, where

989
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 6: I was just focused on offense, and I can add

990
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 6: in a little bit more. I don't think that he

991
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 6: came in saying like, well, no, I want to be

992
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 6: calling the plays or I don't want this job.

993
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 5: I don't think that conversation ever would even happen.

994
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: If north Turner would had been more like, hey, all right,

995
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: Jason called the plays. I think north Turner we went

996
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 2: to head coach in Niway Phillips. Jerry had already hired

997
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Jason to call the plays.

998
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: It's just I just I just.

999
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: Find it very interesting, if not in some ways, I

1000
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: don't understand why you would go about your business that

1001
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: way when I want to bring in a guy who

1002
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: does what he does. You know, if I'm bringing in

1003
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: John Behoulder to sit up here coverage, I'm not gonna

1004
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: ask you John Hey, John Go cover Stars today, John

1005
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: Go cover of Cowboys?

1006
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: Is what you do?

1007
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: I want you to do?

1008
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 5: What give our perspectives on this?

1009
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 6: You take over, You take over play calling right away,

1010
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 6: day one. You don't have success those first three years, Bye,

1011
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 6: you're out, but you have kind of a buffer when

1012
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 6: there's somebody else there. It's kind of like when people

1013
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 6: step into a situation like I'll give you a Sean

1014
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 6: Payt will use him as example.

1015
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 5: The quarterback's the same way.

1016
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: You think if that everything doesn't work with Russell Wilson,

1017
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 6: that they're going to be like, yeah, thanks Sean Seal. Later, no,

1018
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 6: he'll get another chance. They'll let him draft a quarterback

1019
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 6: so he gets a long tenure.

1020
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: But but you don't go ahead and thinking you're going looking

1021
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 4: at a negative thinking that I need this buffer in

1022
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: case I don't win.

1023
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 6: I mean, well, no, no, no, I'm not saying that you're

1024
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 6: I'm not saying you're going and thinking like that, But

1025
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that it's not the worst plan. Also,

1026
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 6: the fact that if he didn't think that Kellen Moore

1027
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 6: could do the job, then I don't think he would

1028
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 6: have taken it. I think he felt good about Kellen

1029
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 6: being the offensive coordinator too.

1030
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: Though this is a guy who didn't get the Jets job,

1031
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: of the Browns job and was already out of here.

1032
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: This is at some point in time you say what

1033
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: you need to to get the job right.

1034
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 4: And he said that. He said that at the press coming.

1035
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: I told Steve and I watched everybody, but I didn't

1036
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 4: for sure.

1037
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: All Right, we gotta get at it.

1038
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: John mishould always appreciate the conversation. Mediamsh I new he

1039
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: scratch will talk to you next week.

1040
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1041
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