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Speaker 1: We're back and we're bad. You guys remember where they

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Speaker 1: The Trio is back together, guys. Before we get into

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Speaker 3: Man, it's been kids for sure. As I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate that, love it, and it's not a

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Speaker 3: I think the narrative still is the same of what

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Speaker 2: That you might be able.

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Speaker 5: To find a guy in the second round, or if

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of different ways to affect the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: That we kind of will take for granted, those quick,

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Speaker 5: Right, So it'swich we saw exactly what you're describing is

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that that shock made a great reference

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Speaker 5: I love that you re signed Mike Cues. He's coming

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Speaker 5: got four and five receivers on the field.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that dude.

440
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 5: Is trained to play man coverage in the slot, play

441
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,919
Speaker 5: zone coverage in the slot, and tackle in the box.

442
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 5: You've got four or five of those guys in the

443
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 5: draft that if you feel like that was a problem

444
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 5: for you and Hughes is still here, you draft that dude.

445
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 5: He's a plug and play guy. That's what I'm kind

446
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 5: of talking about when it comes to that Yeah.

447
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Speaker 1: I mean I would agree with it too, DJ. As

448
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 1: we all know the NFL is all about competition for sure,

449
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 1: right and and David, it reminds me of last year

450
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 1: when we were almost sitting in this exact same spot.

451
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 1: Last year, you were talking about Quinjon Mitchell over and

452
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,679
Speaker 1: over and over about how talented he was and what

453
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,360
Speaker 1: happened He gets drafted, the ends up winning a Super Bowl.

454
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Speaker 1: He helps that defense in Philadelphia become one of the

455
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 1: best in the league because you can never have too

456
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 1: many talented young corners. You can never have too many

457
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 1: guys that may turn into another AJ Terrell. Now that's different.

458
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: He's a first round draft pick. But if they fall

459
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 1: in love with which just like they did with Bijon Robinson.

460
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: We didn't think they were gonna be drafting a running

461
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 1: back in the first round. They fell in love with

462
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 1: Jon Robinson and his talent and look at him a

463
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 1: couple of years later. He's not one of the most

464
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 1: dynamic running backs in the league. Right, So if they

465
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: find it, if they find a guy that they feel

466
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,439
Speaker 1: like is gonna fit the system. Loves a personality. Ulbrick

467
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: loves him. From a defensive standpoint, I think you bring

468
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 1: him in and you let these guys compete and win

469
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 1: the positions on the field.

470
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Speaker 2: Is that how we do it in the NFL? Absolutely? Absolutely?

471
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Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk a little bit more about

472
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Speaker 1: the fifteen pick. Obviously that's gonna be a really interesting

473
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: slot for Atlanta because they don't have a whole lot

474
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 1: of draft capital right now. Guys, So I'm gonna ask

475
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: you this question. Do you stay at fifteen or do

476
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: you think Atlanta is a mover and shaker in the

477
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Speaker 1: first down, either up or down. DJ, Let's start with you.

478
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Speaker 3: It's interesting because there is obviously a lot of different

479
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 3: scenarios that can help you for this organization. Obviously, if

480
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: you're looking for great value, looking for guy who come

481
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: in to help you right now, which I think there

482
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: is guys who will be at that fifteen spot that

483
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: you can come in and say, all right, this guy

484
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 3: can plug and play right now and he can be

485
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: of value to you right now. Or you say, you

486
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: know what, we lost a few pigs last year. The

487
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: Matthew Judon didn't really work out the way you wanted to.

488
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 3: You lose a third round pick, Maybe here's an opportunity

489
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: for you to move back a few spots and say,

490
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: you know what, maybe there's a guy that we really

491
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: like and we probably can get into twenty somewhere. But

492
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: in the same token, we can get the guy we want,

493
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: and we can add a couple more picks to it.

494
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 3: I think it adds great value to what you want

495
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 3: to do. So, you know, it's hard to say because

496
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: we're not in those rooms, were out in those draft

497
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 3: rooms where they're talking scenarios, but I can see the

498
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: argument for both, and for me, I would say I

499
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: would say fifteen is a good spot for you to

500
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: go get somebody that you really wanted. That spot, especially

501
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: when it comes to if you're really dedicated to like

502
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 3: everybody say hey, they talk to none but defensive guys

503
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: at the combine. If that's what you feel strong about it,

504
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: you feel really good that this guy can come in

505
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: here right now and say, you know what, he will

506
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 3: absolutely help our defense from day one.

507
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 4: You got to go get that guy.

508
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this shock and you guys, let

509
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 5: me ask both you guys. Okay, So here's the dynamic.

510
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 5: You're sitting, you're in the war room, and this thing

511
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 5: starts to go okay, and inevitably it seems like every year,

512
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 5: a guy that is pretty highly rated, maybe the best

513
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 5: at his position, begins to fall. And it not necessarily

514
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 5: because of anything he's done.

515
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: It might be.

516
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 5: Because all of a sudden, the quarterbacks or somebody kind

517
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: of panics and drafts a quarterback you didn't expect to

518
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 5: go there, or a guy they fell in love with

519
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 5: a certain player, and all of a sudden, you get

520
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 5: to where we are, and this happened to us back.

521
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: What was it? What you're to Ridley?

522
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 5: Come out in nineteen twenty when Ridley twenty one? Remember

523
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 5: we got to twenty two and we're thinking edge rusher.

524
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 5: We're thinking edge rusher, which I guess we've been doing

525
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 5: that for a while now. But Calvin Ridley was the

526
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 5: was the number two rated wide receiver on the board,

527
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 5: and he was he was supposed to be gone inside

528
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 5: the fifteen pick. Here we're at twenty two and Ridley's

529
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 5: sitting there. All that being said, what happens if you

530
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 5: get to fifteen and the number one offensive tackles.

531
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Speaker 2: On the board.

532
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 5: And there's been a lot of conversation about you know,

533
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 5: the team has gone and looked at some guys and

534
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 5: done some extra study on a couple offensive tackles. I mean,

535
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 5: what happened, you know, So that's and I'm not saying

536
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 5: you guys can make that decision for Terry or for

537
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 5: for Raheem right now, but that's a real.

538
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: Possibility, is arch.

539
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: And I think at this stage with the draft, you're

540
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: right because weird things happen, and I think all options

541
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: are on the table because you're right there, Like there

542
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: could be a run on wide receivers and all of

543
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: a sudden somebody picks the tight end, and then all

544
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden there's a linebacker and wait a second,

545
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: there's a corner available that they had no idea. They

546
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: couldn't mocked it ten times that the guy was going

547
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: to be available, and then all of a sudden they

548
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: make a move. And maybe it even works out to

549
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: where Atlanta finds a way to go from fifteen to

550
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: thirteen or something because that guy is still available that

551
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: they didn't think was going to be. And yes, to me,

552
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: this shapes us up as a draft to trade back right,

553
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: to get more draft capital, to get more assets, right,

554
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: to try to bring in more players to help this

555
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: team grow.

556
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: But it could end up being the exact opposite.

557
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: You just never know how things are going to shake

558
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: out when it comes to the day of the draft.

559
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: So we're thinking trade up, trade down. It's just we're

560
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: going to play this thing out, right, We're gonna play

561
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: this thing out. First round. Did we talk enough about

562
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: pass rusher that this should be the pick? Or what

563
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: position group we're not going with players? What position group

564
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: are we thinking? First round?

565
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: DJ Man, we've seen over the years, like we've talked about,

566
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: anything can freaking happen on draft day and Arch stows

567
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: wrenching the whole plan. He tells, you, you know what

568
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 3: if that guy who we not even talked about, and

569
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: they went to go see this one guy and you

570
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: got a chance to who it makes it interesting to say, Okay,

571
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: if we can build our team the best way possible

572
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: and this guy's sitting there, you go get him. It

573
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: makes a lot of conversations a lot different. I think

574
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 3: in the first round, I'm sticking with some sort of

575
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: guy in the front setting.

576
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 4: How about that?

577
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: Okay, because obviously who knows where their mind is thinking

578
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: on the best way that Jeff Albrooks says, this defense

579
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: can be impacted.

580
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a linebacker, Maybe it's.

581
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: A guy that you know, I know you got Diabolo

582
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: just came in here, but you know, Troy's been up

583
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: and down. Maybe you need another guy who can bring

584
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: something to that episode. Maybe you know, well, we talked

585
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: about the NT, you talked about guys on the edge.

586
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many guys in this draft that

587
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: you could say, you know what, for Jeff.

588
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 4: Albrooks sake, it fits really well.

589
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: Maybe for the common Falcon fan you say, you know,

590
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 3: I really love this guy from this particular blaze to

591
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: edge rush. But the Falcon may say, you know what,

592
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 3: we got a guy who could fill that role who

593
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: looks similar to how he is, but we want a

594
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: guy who looks this way on the interior. So I

595
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: think front seven is where you go. I know it's

596
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: pretty broad, but I think you stay there. And over

597
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: the years we talked about getting pass rusher and we

598
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: on the whole other side of the ball, getting somebody

599
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: on the offense side of the ball. So I think

600
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: we stay on that defensive side and somewhere in the

601
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: front seven, especially in that first round.

602
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: Well this day and age, front seven gives you a

603
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: lot of different positional options because it's tackle, it's end,

604
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: it's pass rusher, it's middle linebacker, it's rush linebacker.

605
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: It's outside linebacker.

606
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: Right, it's it's become so you know, the positions have

607
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: become so tailored, if you will, Yeah, you want to

608
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: hear this, Yeah, exactly are they going to fit in

609
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: your specific system? So Art, what do you think about

610
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: position group?

611
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: First round? Yeah?

612
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 5: Everything I said about offensive tackle, don't don't hyper ventive

613
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: late at home. I will throw in one last little

614
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 5: caveat to that. And I know the fans have been

615
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: thinking this. I've been reading it on some of the

616
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: chat rooms and that kind of stuff. Is Michael Pennix

617
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 5: is a left handed quarterback. Well, I'll just throw that

618
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: out there. I'll just throw that out there.

619
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So the if you feel comfortable.

620
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: And I thought that the gentleman that played on the

621
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 5: right side had a pretty good year this year, maybe

622
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 5: his best year as a pro. But he is in

623
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: the back end of his contract and would it I'm

624
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 5: just saying, Okay, that could potentially, But I would agree

625
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 5: with with Shock you probably You're probably there too, Rack.

626
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 5: I think the conversation has been about how do we

627
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 5: affect the run game as well the past game first,

628
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 5: but the run game as well, because if you draft

629
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 5: the defensive tackle or an edge guy or a line by,

630
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 5: those guys are gonna have an effect in the run

631
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 5: game as well. So you're drafting and a a guy

632
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 5: that's an asset that can affect the game in the

633
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: front seven. I would think that would be what it is.

634
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to get into specific names,

635
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 5: but I know there's there's there's some guys.

636
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: There's some guys.

637
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 5: There's some guys, man, I mean, there's a couple of

638
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 5: just I don't know.

639
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm not abdul Abduel Carter. Yes, he's a dude. Okay,

640
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: he's a dude. Not gonna be there.

641
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: Okay, Travis Hunter love watching his tape. A dude, He's

642
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 5: not gonna be there. So now all of a sudden,

643
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 5: you start thinking, Okay, who could potentially bunch back? And

644
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 5: this is what we're talking about with the draft falls

645
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: you were you were discussing, we're running receivers or whatever

646
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: it is. Does that guy you know fall to you?

647
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: You know? And and is there a guy in your mind?

648
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: And we're gonna we're gonna weet you guys at but

649
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 5: we're gonna let their apptites we're gonna pick our guys.

650
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 2: Next week, we're gonna pick a guy.

651
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 5: Is there a guy for you on the board that

652
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: is a can't miss dude in your mind that if

653
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 5: he fell to Atlanta And I'm not talking about Abdul

654
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: Carter or Mason Graham, those guys are going to be gone.

655
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 5: Is there a guy that you think is being projected

656
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 5: between eight and and whin the Falcons pick? If he's there,

657
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 5: he's a no miss, You've got.

658
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: It, Honestly, arch I hadn't gone into the weeds that yet.

659
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: Sorry, so I.

660
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Don't have But that's a great tease because we're going

661
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: to talk about it for next week, and I want

662
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: I want to this is this week, is is big picture.

663
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: Next week we're gonna start talking more individual players. There's

664
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: there's one more discussion that I want to have with

665
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: you two guys up here that I think is interesting

666
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: to have. Now my caveat here is this is not

667
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: first round. Okay, this is just this draft. What happens

668
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position? Where are Because there's been so

669
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: much talk out there about Kirk Cousins and is he

670
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: going to be moved? Is he's gonna move to the draft,

671
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna be moved later. But last year, one year ago,

672
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: the whole discussion was sign Kirk Cousins. They drafted Michael Pennix.

673
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: We don't ever want to have an issue at the

674
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: quarterback position. And in the foreseeable future, well, the organization

675
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: is hinting that they may be moving on from Kirk

676
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: because at some point he might end up be in

677
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: the backup still and that might be a great situation.

678
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: But do they have to start thinking about something behind

679
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix. I'm just throwing it out there because I

680
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: got two quarterbacks with me.

681
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: DJ you have to always think that way. And we've

682
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: seen in this league, we've seen his organization. If you

683
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: don't have that guy, if your number one guy goes down,

684
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: you're in trouble. So the conversation, I guarantee has already

685
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: been had. The conversation has already been talked about. Okay,

686
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: what if this guy I e. Kirk Cousins is not here?

687
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: Who is the guy behind Michael Penny shil you? So

688
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: that conversation is there and a lot of it goes to, Okay,

689
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: do you want to know the young guy? Oh, do

690
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: you want a guy who's had experience in the National

691
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: Football League. But as we know, a lot of those

692
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: guys they're gone, Yeah, they are at another team. They're

693
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: in that role already with another picketing around this league.

694
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: And then you start asking yourself, okay, is there's somebody

695
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: in this draft that you feel comfortable enough that if

696
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: this guy goes down, you feel good about it. And

697
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: I think that's still up in the air. And right

698
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: now you're holding on the number eighteen because of whatever

699
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: all the situations around it. But obviously, as we know,

700
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: we go through training camp, things happen, guys go down,

701
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: and then here comes the phone starts ringing, and then

702
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: that's not the time where you start thinking about it.

703
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: So you bring up a good point of you're looking

704
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: down in this draft. You look, hey, fifth sixth round,

705
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: and there's a guy there. She say, you know what,

706
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: I think this guy's mature enough. You look at Michael

707
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: Penick Jung he is what twenty four, He came into

708
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: this league very mature. If you have another guy who's

709
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: sitting in the role you know you feel good about.

710
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: If you don't have that veteran guy that this guy

711
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: can feel that void, then you have to pull that

712
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: trigger because you don't know what's gonna happen.

713
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: And I think, like you.

714
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: Mentioned, there's a lot of talk on the outside about

715
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: what could happen in the coming months before trade airline

716
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. If you know a team

717
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: comes calling for Kirk gouzz and I think you have

718
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: to have that in place already with a guy already

719
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: in the building.

720
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: Three hundred and sixty five days ago, Arts we weren't

721
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: talking about whether or not the Falcons will be drafting

722
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback in twenty twenty five. But with everything that's transpired, it,

723
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: like he said, there's been probably been discussions and it's

724
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: somewhere on the table, and I don't know if a

725
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: fifth sixth rounder is the one that you want, but

726
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: like they got to have whoever is it gonna be

727
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: behind Michael, whether it's this year or next year. And yeah,

728
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: you can push the peanut forward and think about that

729
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. But I'm just trying to prime you, guys,

730
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: do not be surprised if somewhere in this twenty twenty

731
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: five draft there's a quarterback taken both both.

732
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because you've been throwing a lot of wrenches

733
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: in now, Ratnell throwing a nice little.

734
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: I will be I'll be shocked.

735
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 5: I'll be shocked, guys if they take it for a

736
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: quarterback in the draft, and now, I will not be

737
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 5: shocked if they sign a couple of free agents that

738
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 5: are available to come in and potentially come in and

739
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 5: compete for maybe a third spot. I think that they

740
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: I agree with shocked. The conversation has been had. Okay,

741
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 5: what happens if we get the perfect offer for Kirk

742
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: and it gives him an opportunity to go someplace that

743
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: he would like to go. Remember, he's got some clauses

744
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 5: in his contract where he can say yeay or nay

745
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 5: on some stuff. But if it's a perfect scenario where

746
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: he can go start or whatever, or compete for the

747
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 5: starting job, that conversation has been had. I think right

748
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 5: now they're planning, and Terry's been adamant about the fact

749
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 5: they're comfortable with the way the room looks. They're not

750
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 5: comfortable with where the money is for each guy, but

751
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 5: they're comfortable with the way the room looks that I

752
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 5: don't know if you're in a better situation. Is there

753
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 5: anybody in a better situation from a quarterback standpoint in

754
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 5: the National Football League, if you go into the season

755
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 5: and Kirk Cousins is your backup quarterback going in the league,

756
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 5: and don't think that he's one of these malcontents that's

757
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 5: going to be a problem. I mean, he and Pennis

758
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 5: rode home from game that they've got a really good relationship.

759
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: So there's there's that.

760
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 5: Yes, he'd like to be playing someplace, but I think

761
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 5: don't worry about the relationship or the potential disruptor or

762
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: something like that. That's not going to happen with Kirk Cousin.

763
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 5: That's not going to happen. Yeah, I don't think they're

764
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 5: going to do that. I don't think they're going to

765
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 5: draft quarterback.

766
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Just something to keep an eye on. I thought about

767
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: it a couple of times over the last week. And

768
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, again, three hundred and sixty five days ago,

769
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: would have never thought that we'd be having this discussion.

770
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: But at some point the discussions will be had or

771
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: have been had.

772
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you guys this, Okay, So

773
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 5: we're kind of doing big picture.

774
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: We're we're we talked about.

775
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 5: Pass rush, okay, and so I think that if we

776
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 5: got the guy that's delivering the packages out here, and

777
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 5: we said, hey, what do you think the focus?

778
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: He say, pass rush? What is that?

779
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: What does that need? In you guys's mind? Where is

780
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 5: where is something that affects the game rack other than Russian?

781
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: Some of these are kind of intertwined like a chain, right,

782
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 5: whereas an areas are a number, there's a stat or

783
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 5: something that has to change or you're going to struggle

784
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: again on one side of the the boy one explosive

785
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: plays on offense, Okay, I think more explosive plays down

786
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 5: the field, and I think that there was and there's

787
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 5: been a lot of discussion about Kyle Pitts over the years,

788
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 5: and rightfully so. And I'm not saying Kyle Pitts has

789
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 5: been the reason why we haven't had explosive plays. But

790
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: when you have somebody that has the generational talent of

791
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 5: Michael Pitts potentially in the middle of the field, the

792
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 5: idea was that that should open up more holes for

793
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 5: Atlanta to have some shots down the field. Right, He

794
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 5: draws attention in the middle, gives a Manda Man matchup

795
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 5: on the outside. You take a shot with somebody down

796
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 5: the field of Darnell Mooney or something like that, and

797
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 5: We've already talked about Drake London. Drake London has been

798
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 5: great for this organization. But I don't think Drake is

799
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 5: to take the top of the top off of the

800
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 5: defense type wide receiver. He's going to use his physicality,

801
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 5: his athleticism to go up over the top of people,

802
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: box people out and make those difficult catches. But for me,

803
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 5: like I think about the Chiefs and I look at

804
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: Xavier Worthy and what did he do. He brought a

805
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: speed factor that offense that every defense had to respect. Okay,

806
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: and I'm not just picking out the guy that had

807
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 5: the fastest time in the combine, but they the Chiefs

808
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 5: were very strategic on why they picked him is because

809
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 5: he creates issues for defenses and they got a quarterback

810
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 5: that can get him the ball. So if there's another

811
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 5: way that this offense can generate more explosive plays, feeding

812
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: off of play action with Robinson and Algier in the backfield,

813
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 5: feeding off of what Drake can do on the outside

814
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 5: by making the difficult catches, but more explosive plays offensively,

815
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: I feel like helps you score more points. It's a

816
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 5: game where you got to score points.

817
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: The time of winning seven to three does not happen

818
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: too much in the national munch of the league anymore,

819
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: and the defense is not there for it right now,

820
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: right now. So find a way to score more points

821
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: by being more explosive.

822
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this.

823
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: On top of that, Okay, Atlanta was top ten in

824
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 5: the league in average yards per play I think five

825
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 5: point nine yards per play. Okay, but key moment explosives

826
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 5: is what you're talking about, guys that are making key

827
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 5: moment explosives. Was that a quarterback issue or was that

828
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 5: a Kyle Pitts issue, because if he go back to

829
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 5: his rookie year, dude was making explosive players Matt Ryan throwing.

830
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: Him the rocks exaxt thing.

831
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: I'm thinking because I when both of you guys talking

832
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: about this, the first thing I thought about was those

833
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: last three ball games and how much the ball was

834
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: starting to be pushed down the field. And we know

835
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: from Michael Penny's time of college, Oh, he loved the

836
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: de ball. He wanted to throw the football down the field.

837
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: And I think we saw in those last three ball

838
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: games his willingness to push the football down the field.

839
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: You got all the play action and you got a

840
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: slight roll in you got a deep eighteen twenty two

841
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: yard comeback coming on the back side of the money that's

842
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: pushing the football down the field. And I think I

843
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: think the last game, I think we saw there there

844
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: were two instances where throws one in the end zone

845
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: to Drake, it gets knocked down. Next play right back

846
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: to him on a on another fave route. I think

847
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: this is what you're going to get them. I think

848
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: is going to get to where you want to be,

849
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: where you're pushing the football down the field. Michael Pitt's

850
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: gonna be that kind of guy who will throw the

851
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: football down the field.

852
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and I think that mentality and throwing another

853
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: piece in there, right and it guys, it could be

854
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: a third rounder. And maybe this third rounder is a

855
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: is a you know, a guy that's got great top

856
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: end speed, but he's got some things that need to

857
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: still be worked on. Right, He's got some tools, but

858
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: he's not refined yet.

859
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Racks already got his trading back or we're gonna go round.

860
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 5: He's already the drapes have been pulled.

861
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: We got to get it back. What is talking about

862
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: already got it for.

863
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: What DJ is talking about. We gonna get into next week.

864
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: All right, So, uh speaking, which you want more draft coverage?

865
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: You talked about a little bit. Arch. Your top prospect

866
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: videos out going out right now on YouTube. Which are

867
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: the ones that you've done so far?

868
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 5: So far we have on the website right now of

869
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 5: the linebackers and safeties, which includes your guy Malachai Starks.

870
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 5: And then we're gonna go to the big guys. Big

871
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 5: guys are coming up. I got a couple of defensive tackles,

872
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Speaker 5: a couple of offensive linemen, A dog is in that

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